You got this!
#h1-discussion
lone kernel
brisk trail
trying 32 heat with level 1 acorn?
ripe otter
Got Lucifer aspect, time to try it out
twin thistle
yay.... three sack
open vault
After I have received most of the keepsakes, who should I give nectar to? Is there better choices or a guide on who you should do first?
lone kernel
After I have received most of the keepsakes, who should I give nectar to? Is the...
Meg, than, dusa, patty, Achilles, Sisyphus, skelly
And Aphrodite so nyaa doesn’t yell at me
open vault
In that order?
open vault
So it doesn’t matter who you max first
open vault
Gotcha. I just didn’t know if there was a better choice than others
Or if maxing X first was a good choice
lone kernel
Those will get you some items, but eventually you’ll bond w everyone
The ones I listed above
But that’s way later in the game for now just make it rain
chrome wharf
Also Nyx is a prereq for some of the characters mentioned above
steady geyser
Man this game is frustrating. On my first time getting to hades on 32 heat I had him 3/4 beat but I blew my acorn hits on adds. And then I died on dumb stuff like getting ganged up on by archers or witches
Also, it’s so hard to beat Thanatos when it’s a bunch of beefy armored enemies
lone kernel
Man this game is frustrating. On my first time getting to hades on 32 heat I had...
It happens and 32 heat is no joke, making it to hades is an accomplishment. You’ll get em next time. I’d recommend checking out the content in the high heat channel if you want more specific advice and coaching on how to get over that wall
steady geyser
Yeah I’m confident I can do it now, just gonna keep at it
slim marsh
For the platnium do I need to beat the game with every weapon?
twin thistle
if thats one of the achievements 
slim marsh
It doesn’t seem to be
lone kernel
among many other things, yes lol
twin thistle
well getting plat will probably take a lot of clears so you might just want to try out every weapon for fun anyways
chrome wharf
If completing all the prophecies is an achievement, then yes
twin thistle
nah that aint one
narrow hemlock
Weapon of Fate
Clear an escape attempt with a hidden Weapon AspectBlood Bound
Max any Weapon AspectArms Collector
Unlock each of the Infernal ArmsInfernal Arms
Unlock all Weapon Aspects
each of the weapon specific achievements
slim grail
i think i just created a fan-war on my other thread......
all i say was "who wins in a fight? zeus or thor?" since they're both similar
wow i regret saying that
smoky turret
I bought hades last night and is good
steady geyser
is good indeed
maiden bane
What’s the most consistent weapon to use Ares with?
Wanting to get most of his duos for prophecies
lone kernel
What’s the most consistent weapon to use Ares with?
Blade rifts - Achilles spear. Doom - merciful end (best on fists but works with most things). If you’re hunting duos for prophecy you can also just take whatever ares boon and farm duos that way
maiden bane
Yooo I guessed spear
lone kernel
Based
frozen shore
sup
maiden bane
Sup
ebon thistle
Start yor day with Hades crashing 
maiden bane
Start yor day with Hades crashing <:failbag:459075377814568960>
It’s 11pm. That’s an end to your day
wise oasis
No it's 9 am
ebon thistle
It’s 11pm. That’s an end to your day
11 AM where i live c:
Meanwhile im getting desperate with the fishing
tribal prairie
So let me get this straight is heracles a nickname for Hercules but they couldn’t use that name because Disney owns it?
hearty sierra
WELL
chrome wharf
Hercules is the Roman name and Heracles is Greek iirc
hearty sierra
Do you want the long explanation or the short one
dapper plover
twin thistle
you unlock aspects after unlocking all 6 weapons
brisk trail
please tell me disney can't actually own the name hercules
brisk trail
i know that heracles is greek and hercules is roman, that's why i would be horrified if disney could actually own either as another message suggested
strong ridge
ME chiron is kinda funny
unborn bramble
Immunity enemies with 2 perks and athena blessing is irritating.
Took me a while to clear that
strong ridge
ya bp definitely makes athena trial a lot more concerning
unborn bramble
Not concerning as it's horrible. Immunity doesn't mean they will gonna hit me.
It's just irritating
twin thistle
well you picked her over another trial
short glen
its technically religious, and thats protected from being copyright
Since when has things like the law ever stoped Disney
strong ridge
jesus brought to you by coca cola
plush oar
Hi everyone!
I'm new here, still I just started Hell Mode in the game
twin thistle
uh wouldnt recommend hell mode
vapid narwhal
starting on hell mode will be frustrating for a while
plush oar
uh wouldnt recommend hell mode
I already finished the game np
I'm new on discord
twin thistle
ah ic
vapid narwhal
oh that's fine then
plush oar
ups XD
strong ridge
i mean either way hell mode only adds like 8 heat so \o/
plush oar
i mean either way hell mode only adds like 8 heat so \o/
5* and turns down invisibility frames
well, it's basically ng+
strong ridge
ya its rly not that bad
plush oar
well forced heats are annoying.
yea, basically more enemies with more health and damage -_- buuuut hardcore enough to keep my adrenaline up 
plush oar
well you can always turn them on in regular mode
the problem with my regular mode is that it has some bugged stuff
for example I can't gift Ambrosia to Ares
twin thistle
having to make a whole new save for PL is kinda annoying
plush oar
even if I've done his mission
vapid narwhal
adds HL1, LC1, JS1, CP1 and PL
CF1 is the most annoying one
you are just stuck with Ares's dialogue RNG
there is no reason he cant be gifted
plush oar
sooo using the same save is useless for me that I want to aim for the platinum basically
having those 3-4 bugged mission that don't let me complete the game... ugh
twin thistle
well you sure its bugged? even after you complete the requirements the dialogue can take some time to pop up
strong ridge
hell mode doesnt force cf1
vapid narwhal
CP1, not CF1
plush oar
well you sure its bugged? even after you complete the requirements the dialogue ...
I arived at 120k dead people and still nothing 🙂
vapid narwhal
Ares is also the last main god for me to unlock his heart
his dialogue just got a lot of RNG
it's fairly normal
plush oar
his dialogue just got a lot of RNG
so if it's mostly RNG then... okay
twin thistle
well could try some suicide runs and see if it works
plush oar
let's see, imma replay that mode a little more
vapid narwhal
64 heat take his keepsake and do fast suicide runs
twin thistle
for suicide runs equip guan yu, forced overtime, routine inspections
and his keepsake
plush oar
64 heat take his keepsake and do fast suicide runs
that is what I intend to do! (and desactivating the extra lifes)
plush oar
for suicide runs equip guan yu, forced overtime, routine inspections
OK, after aaaaaaaall this time I JUST UNLOCKED IT FIRST TRY
LOL
twin thistle
bruh moment
plush oar
Idk if I have to be happy or dead inside for all this effort
ah right
someone know what do I do to activate this stuff right here?
(ah rip I cannot post photos here)
eternal marlin
need to link it
plush oar
in the room where spirits work and "we lost our job" basically
there is a ring with blod on the ground
plush oar
oh you havent got to that?
I just didn't followed any wiki at all to play the game and nope
plush oar
that's for ||Nyx and Chaos's personal quest line||
ohhhh
so I need to give them all the nectar I have first
ty
forest falcon
pure karma
Is the narrator the same VA as in Bastion and Transistor?
mint coral
ye
dusky wedge
Logan Cunningham
mint coral
yes
pure karma
wow such range
rain relic
so you know how i say that i think Aegis is super boring and kinda pointless?
turns out, Aspect of Beowulf is the exception
mint coral
beowulf gaming
ebon thistle
im beginning to absolutely hate poseidon
pure karma
As in the God or his boons?
ebon thistle
5+ runs in a row he appeared once or twice for the whole run
Second wave requres 3 boons minimum
mint coral
thats the same for almost any other legendary
ebon thistle
but when i need literally anything else he's just THERE, every single time
Yes but other gods actually appear more than twice per whole game
last run i got like 4 Athena boons
rain relic
it's fun trying to get a item that requires you use Stubborn Defiance from Charon's Well and it never bloody showing up
especially when Stubborn Defiance doesn't ruddy work
mint coral
save the fated persuasion re rolls for the wells ig
thorny mirage
mfw
mint coral
slim grail
who win zeus vs thor?
thorny mirage
rain relic
who win zeus vs thor?
Thor's straight up OP in his mythology so i'd say he'd win
pure karma
Thor's straight up OP in his mythology so i'd say he'd win
eh
slim grail
simply based on the fact thor can die but iirc zeus can’t
im curious though
so thor is a "God"
means he's actually not a human?
thorny mirage
yeah
slim grail
so if he dies.... means a soul died.
so.... he jsut vanish?
you know what i mean? like if i die, my soul will be there so i cant die anymore
but thor is alrdy a "spirit"
nvm i think im thinking too much
brisk trail
@pure karma that pic in #h1-victory-boasting
any reason youre running HL3 on 4 heat?
vapid narwhal
trippy shot on achilles is also ... interesting
brisk trail
im not trying to poke fun just wondering why they didnt go for something easier like em2
but yes that's definitely interesting
pure karma
any reason youre running HL3 on 4 heat?
HL3?
brisk trail
hard labour 3
rain relic
does the Touch of Styx just show up in the Well randomly or do i need to use Stubborn Defiance first before it shows up?
brisk trail
the 60% damage
pure karma
Ah
thorny mirage
does the Touch of Styx just show up in the Well randomly or do i need to use Stu...
Random
pure karma
I dunno seemmed the easiest
pure karma
Wanted to avoid mmore hp and enemy numbers because of deadline
brisk trail
middle management is like, really easy once you use it 5ish times
like not any harder than normal
thorny mirage
I mean, there’s em2 or middle management
pure karma
middle management does what?
thorny mirage
Buffs minibosses
pure karma
Forgot about that entirely
thorny mirage
heck i’d rather take underworld customs
pure karma
Any guides on optimal heat levels?
Still learning
You are really gonna hate what I have on mmy first 10 heat run
i probably have really bad things
pure karma
EM2 hydra annoyed me a lot
brisk trail
BF2 can lead to some nasty combos if you get unlucky
its more just getting used to the lava lines between the islands
you have to move a fair bit more in EM2
pure karma
Next I will go for it
need to get used to the diff boss fights anyway
How bad is EM3?
pure karma
Think I will get slammed first time?
brisk trail
probably yeah, i did
pure karma
I am gonna try to find a guide for optimal 10 heat
brisk trail
yeah dodging theseus is prob easier in em3
because that spear is actually kinda difficult
but asterius can murder you if you dont pay attention
pure karma
Does EM3 change the Asterius miniboss fight?
brisk trail
also theseus does his god call at 40% (i think) instead of 50% so you can burst him with less damage
brisk trail
Does EM3 change the Asterius miniboss fight?
yep
pure karma
So I will get an idea of what changes maybe
thorny mirage
I guess to give you an example
pure karma
really annoying
brisk trail
yeah you just need to not be in front of his chariot, and dodge the bombs
and youre fine
thorny mirage
he like rarely uses the bullets tho
pure karma
lost a defiance already in asphodel
thorny mirage
Which is like the most annoying thing to deal with
brisk trail
id probably run tight deadline 2, em2, middle management and benefits package 1 for 10 heat
pure karma
Ok here is what I have: Hard Labor 40%, Jury Summons 20%, Calisthenics 15%, Benefits 1, That blue shield at lvl 1 and deadline 2
this is my current 10 heat
scarlet perch
lost a defiance already in asphodel
Don’t worry. I died in asphodel somehow, one reason was because I perfectly timed my dashes to dash into other lava pools, so it never stopped stacking for one of my defiance’s
plush oar
is there a way to know witch way of the labirinth is the good one?
plush oar
oke, ty
spare tiger
If you're at 10 heat now that's surprising
Unless i had a really bad run prior Hades never kills me
spare tiger
What weapon do you use?
pure karma
I use all of them
rapid forum
Oh yea, I guess that's a bit hard to time
pure karma
I change every run
pure karma
Rama is maxed and awesome
spare tiger
Try using the special on the soul vats
pure karma
Only weapon that gives me trouble is stygian tbh
Soul vats? Those green things that stun you?
spare tiger
What aspect of stygius?
pure karma
all
spare tiger
Yeah
pure karma
ME?
spare tiger
I prefer Nemesis personally
rapid forum
Merciful End
rapid forum
Take a rest 
spare tiger
If you can get the attack speed boon from Hermes in epic
pure karma
I have a fractured thumb and pressing two button at the same time hurts
spare tiger
You kinda bypass the biggest issue with Excalibur
pure karma
Arthur is fun
But I am always playing fast and mobile
Kinda classes with my playstyle a lot
spare tiger
Let me put it this way
Do you wanna nuke EVERYTHING?
Is that armor just too annoying?
pure karma
Rama Crit attack
pure karma
Sure it's great yeah
not denying that
Had successful runs with it
But in general Sword is my least favorite
spare tiger
Y'know we had a whole argument yesterday about that sword
pure karma
It can be ok with a strong cast build
thorny mirage
I mean that is the point of the aspect
pure karma
But why not play Beowulf, Achilles or Hestia if you wanna go cast
mint coral
hestia is the sniper
thorny mirage
why would you use hestia for cast
mint coral
hera is the cast one
thorny mirage
Poseidon is simple and good for casts that lodge
mint coral
poseidon gives your cast fast and +50% bonus damage so there is still some uses, as cast damage bonus are slighty rare
(see global damage/urge to kill/chaos)
pure karma
I see what you mean
thorny mirage
since the cast gets stuck and you just special to get it back
thorny mirage
plus if you wanna meme with exit wounds
mint coral
not really
thorny mirage
‘S why I said meme with exit wounds
mint coral
if your cast is buffed enough you are already killing every common enemy with them alone and bosses will barely get damaged by it if you make them go invulnerable then the cast drops
pure karma
What cast is best for poseidon?
mint coral
aphro/athena works well
pure karma
Aphro seems good as it's basically melee and you can be in range to dislodge
rapid forum
Poseidon cast is pretty safe and fun
With breaking wave, you can pinball everything
mint coral
started an athena cast build with hera and already got 3 poms in 2 chambers
ch1 erebus gates are nice
pure karma
Is dio cast good with beowulf?
But I have the multiple casts, not the cooldown one from mirror
rain relic
Is dio cast good with beowulf?
all of the casts are good with Beowulf tbh
mint coral
yeah is good, but is probably better with stygian soul
rain relic
especially if you get Artis' legendary blessing that gives you more casts
mint coral
all of the casts are good with Beowulf tbh
icy flare says hi
lone kernel
Is dio cast good with beowulf?
Dio cast wants Stygian and a bonus cast from chaos
heady cypress
What's the condition for fighting Charon? I feel like you need a certain amount of heat or sumn
And how do you get rama
mint coral
22% chance of seeing the gold bag in the mid shops for charon
heady cypress
So its just luck based?
mint coral
for rama check #h1-story-discussion pins
heady cypress
So its just luck based?
And I never saw it during my low heat runs?
mint coral
yeah just luck based, heat doesnt affect it
autumn drift
You know, as much as this game has so much attention to detail and little bits of polish everywhere, one thing I still really wish it had was the ability to guarantee certain boons, like to create a hard mode where you get to plan out your run and then have to try and survive with the course you've set against substantially harder enemies would be super fun.
also I wish there was a more consistent way to get the hammer upgrades you want
lone kernel
You know, as much as this game has so much attention to detail and little bits o...
mods lol
keepsake kind of works
lone kernel
also if you play the first few rooms
autumn drift
hammer though
lone kernel
and restart
youll get the same gods
this explanation may be bad but: if room 1 is a hammer, you can see what it offers, if u dont like it, reset and change weapons till u find one you like
its not perfect
but it's something lol
autumn drift
and like all that is true, but it'd be nice to have it in game without having to change things outside of game
lone kernel
yeah, thats about as good as you can get without mods 😦
autumn drift
doing things like modding or having to restart a bunch get in the way of the gameplay loop
lone kernel
fair enough
autumn drift
like sure if I were good enough at modding I could make something to have the game do everything I want, but I'm discussing the game itself here
pure karma
Meh Zeus cast on Beowulf is meh
autumn drift
yeah
hammer just feels weird in the current state of the game, like for all the customization options and tool to help direct rng having nothing to increase hammer spawns and no option to reroll feels really odd
especially since I'd argue hammer is one of the most enjoyable ways to open fun new builds.
it's just so inconsistent
but they can change up gameplay so much a lot of them, they're super fun
smoky turret
How many escape attempts did it take yall before your first successful run
autumn drift
I can't remember, it was a while ago
quite a few probably but at the time I was just enjoying the ride rather than trying super hard for the optimal strats
mint coral
hammer just feels weird in the current state of the game, like for all the custo...
you really cant increase hammer spawns bc you cant only get 2 normally
autumn drift
that's what I'm saying
thorny mirage
Idk
getting rid of that many rng aspects kinda removes part of the point of a roguelike?
brisk trail
unsure if this belongs here but, Does anyone know if, Hades will ever receive an update for PS4 to PS5 Transfers?
autumn drift
I'm not saying to get rid of rng, except maybe as an alternate trial mode of sorts (although that'd be endgame content if they did)
but to mess with rng for hammer feels very in line with the game
after all hammer is essentially just another boon, and all the other boons have methods of increasing spawn rates
even chaos has a keepsake and shop item
it'd be really cool to see a hammer keepsake and the ability to reroll on the hammer table
pure karma
What is godmode guys?
autumn drift
I believe it says in game
autumn drift
God Mode grants 20% damage resistance, increasing by 2% each time a run ends in death (rather than escape). The damage resistance caps at 80%.
lone kernel
unsure if this belongs here but, Does anyone know if, Hades will ever receive an...
Please clarify a bit - you had it on ps4 and just got a 5?
thorny mirage
it'd be really cool to see a hammer keepsake and the ability to reroll on the ha...
keepsakes are for npcs you can gift nectar tho
And you’re guaranteed hammers for every run
Rolling them I can understand
pure karma
Best cast for Hera? I tried Zeus and it was bad
lone kernel
Best cast for Hera? I tried Zeus and it was bad
aphro, demeter support for snow burst
i simp for snow burst this week tho
pure karma
You mean demeter cast? and then get snow burst?
I have literally never gotten demeter cast ever...
rain relic
I have literally never gotten demeter cast ever...
it's pretty neat with some Duo boons
pure karma
Ok I am going to try this now
How does the cast work I have no idea
take more casts or cooldown?
rain relic
try looking for duo boons that make it track faster
rain relic
yes
pure karma
So I take stygian right?
rain relic
if you want
pure karma
Does the beam apply chill btw?
lone kernel
You mean demeter cast? and then get snow burst?
sorry, that wasnt clear: aphro cast, demeter snow burst
rain relic
it doesn't apply chill by default but there is a boon that makes it do that
lone kernel
demeter cast on Hera becomes ice flare or whatever
not normal meme beams
and Glaical Glare is what youre looking for to get beams to give chill
pure karma
sorry, that wasnt clear: aphro cast, demeter snow burst
How do I apply chill fast for snow burst with hera?
lone kernel
How do I apply chill fast for snow burst with hera?
it's not for the chill, it's for the AOE damage
if you have a bunch of dudes around you
load your bow
and theyll get smacked
pure karma
Wait ok yeah, I mixed the boons
lone kernel
stacking chill isn't the priority
pure karma
I thought snow burst is the one that explodes at 10 chill
lone kernel
that's arctic blast
thorny mirage
Ye
And like
applying chill fast is for the call
other stuff doesn’t really give speedy chill
pure karma
rama special
thorny mirage
rama special not meant to be main dmg
lone kernel
yeah, snow burst is because it does AOE damage
in the case of hera (and beo) i don't really care about chill
reef zodiac
Even with arctic blast and killing freeze and relentless volley, Rama special does pretty pitiful damage compared to dash-strike power-shots
pure karma
About Exit Wounds, when the stones drop on their own from enemies, does it count? Or is it only with poseidon aspect?
mint coral
when they drop on their own count
brisk trail
I'm in tartarus, in the shop before Meg, and have 2 duo boons available, do I take Calculated Risk or Curse of Nausea? Using aspect of Rama and currently have Drunken Flourish as means of applying Hangover
pure karma
ty
mint coral
I'm in tartarus, in the shop before Meg, and have 2 duo boons available, do I ta...
curse of nausea imo i just dont like calculated risk
raw herald
Curse of nausea is better yeah
brisk trail
curse of nausea imo ~~i just dont like calculated risk~~
I mean calculated risk kinda just screws with my instincts on dodging, so I'mma take curse of nausea
lone kernel
Nintendo direct 6 pm ET today, are we gonna get zag in smash @supergiant
thorny mirage
Yes
brisk trail
We're getting Minecraft Steve 2
thorny mirage
it’s actually faster for me
since you don’t need to wait for two or three waves for barge to be done
mint coral
was gonna say is not that bad but then i remembered that companions helps a lot
brisk trail
Ngl this Rama Drunken Fluorish build is pretty fun
thorny mirage
and companions yeah
brisk trail
Would anyone like to vc while I play?
LMFAO I did the charon fight and stood where he ends up and he just didn't know what to do
Calculated risk has shown up back in Asphodel, it really wants me to take it
pure karma
Is Phalanx Shot homing or am I crazy?
mint coral
almost all of them are homing
pure karma
I have never noticed aside from base and artemis
mint coral
poseidon also curves a little afaik
pure karma
hm
Also, I am gonna do an Achilles Phalanx Shot build
Is that zeus duo that makes it bounce any good?
lone kernel
Is that zeus duo that makes it bounce any good?
Indeed it is
Also if you get Zeus attack and flurry jab..pretty based
pure karma
that was my plan
Although I am not sure what to put on my special
if I get that hammer that makes it crit I may go artemis
lone kernel
It’s not that important tbh
pure karma
You are right
thorny mirage
special doesn’t matter much since it’s entirely for setup
lone kernel
If it works out to get smoldering, sure
pure karma
btw on smoldering air, I do have to have a call already for it to even appear right?
lone kernel
I wouldn’t force it tho, Athena phalanx shot should do the job
lone kernel
btw on smoldering air, I do have to have a call already for it to even appear ri...
Correct. Incompatible with hades aid also
pure karma
what do you mean hades aid
thorny mirage
hades’s call
pure karma
Hades gives boons?\
pure karma
His keepsake does that? LMAO I never even read what it does
thorny mirage
makes you invisible and buffs your damage
pure karma
I will try it one time
thorny mirage
you do bonus damage for like 2 seconds
lone kernel
which stacks with Achilles boost
thorny mirage
and then max call makes you unseen
lone kernel
thorny mirage
5 second buff
And the buff isn’t lost when you attack
it’s really just good for speedrunning
mint coral
also clears poison upon use too
thorny mirage
@candid folio nothing wrong with godmode really
brisk trail
I got hades on my switch 3 or 4 months ago and I really liked it but it’s pretty challenging. I couldn’t get past the first boss and the boss fight seemed unfair because you have countless Enemies attacking you. I’m thinking of trying the game again. I miss it.
Do y’all have any advice for me for the game in general because I’m essentially still a new player
thorny mirage
be prepared for a lot of failure
and focus on the fury
the enemies don’t move as fast as her
and they’re not as much of an issue
brisk trail
Sorry
thorny mirage
Can’t curse here
brisk trail
Sorry about the cursing I forgot
I considered god mode but I didn’t want the game to be too easy
brisk trail
@thorny mirage when did I curse btw I don’t see any curse words in my posts?
brisk trail
I saw which I thought was weird because I didn’t use bad language
Anyway I felt like a wuss for giving up on hades but I miss the game
pure karma
I expect Artemis to say "B-Baka" any time soon.
chrome wharf
Buy the extra dash, and note that you're invulnerable during dashes (not dash attacks though)
narrow hemlock
<@788845609087533077> when did I curse btw I don’t see any curse words in my pos...
was the p word. words that are slang and also refer to genitals are caught in the filter. just for future reference so you avoid it ✌️
pure karma
When you have the choice between Greatest Reflex and Hyper Sprint, both common rarity what do you pick?
high island
Hyper Sprint.
pure karma
On higher rarities? Reflex I guess?
high island
Yeah.
pure karma
I did it. I triggered charon fight with 10 heat
I am so dead
Did it but
I lost a defiance and I think TD will kill me
lone kernel
I lost a defiance and I think TD will kill me
You’re halfway through the biome, take chaos and free rooms if they appear to help mitigate deadline
Not saying it’ll save you but can’t hurt lol
pure karma
He didn't react much either
I am criting for 1.2k on last hit
Ehm, what hammers do I take for Arthur
ok Shadow slash
kek
thorny mirage
Me when no greater consecration
pure karma
I will if it appears
you think I wont?
How rare exactly are the rare fish? Haven't found a single one so far
pure karma
Perfect? What do you mean perfect?
strong ridge
if you do it real quick it’s considered perfect catch
strong ridge
myb lol
thorny mirage
I mean there are three tiers of fish
common, rare and legendary
Legendaries you’re only getting on perfect catches
thorny mirage
The sooner the Interact button is pressed, the higher rarity the fish will be. The time window of fishing is:
Less than 0.34 second: Perfect catch.
0.34 second to 0.68 second: Good catch. 1/21 chance to catch a Rare fish.
After 0.68 second: fail with a "Too Late" message.
Like knuckleheads are considered rare fish
strong ridge
the fisher
pure karma
They are? I have gotten so many
thorny mirage
yeah
legendaries give the most ofc
and where you get the fish decides what it is.
Like asphodel fish give keys I believe
tartarus and styx give gemstones
elysium gives nectar
Chaos fish give darkness
strong ridge
what do greece give and what about styx
thorny mirage
Only ones that break this are greek fish
strong ridge
is styx a conglomeration
pure karma
Diamonds and Bloods I am gonna assume
thorny mirage
tartarus and styx give gemstones
dis
strong ridge
i not read
pure karma
I have 100% gotten diamonds and bloods from some surface fish
thorny mirage
Bass are rare and give ambrosia
thorny mirage
Sturgeons are legendary and give titan’s blood
bass give ambrosia not diamonds or blood
you can exchange that ambrosia for blood with the broker in the house tho
pure karma
Ok then I was wrong
there 3 surface fish
I havent gotten sturgeon, I have gotten bass and Trout
thorny mirage
k
lone kernel
Fishing pro tip: if you’re on switch, the left joycon buzzes when it’s fake the right one when it’s real
If you’re not, disregard
thorny mirage
mfw
pure karma
Man, Hades' call with Arthur is great
heady cypress
Finished a run with the shield for the 2nd time and got 176% atk dmg by aphro didn't even know you can go that high
thorny mirage
pepeg
fast willow
Athena demeter duo boon seems really broken if you don't have timer heat
especially so if you're using a ranged build
split owl
Is there a list of what you need for "Wanton Ransacking" to pop? It appears I'm missing three of them, and I've gone through every skull room I have seen in order to get them.
void vigil
split owl
I had a feeling I was missing things from Styx. I've gone through the skull room only once, because I've found the satyr sack outside of them most of the time.
split owl
Do you have to finish the Orpheus/Eurydice reuniting questline before you can talk to Orpheus about your Lyre skill? I finished the Lyre several runs ago and he still won't acknowledge it.
brisk trail
Gilgamesh autodash plus Tidal Dash equals not using attack, special, or cast at all for Theseus and Asterius
Just to disrespect theseus
thorny mirage
Is there like a list for all the titles you can get at the end of a run and how to fulfill them?
mint coral
wiki has them iirc "victory messages" or smth like that
brisk trail
Just beat hades with nothing but dashing
Need to look into Gilgamesh Autodash run builds 😄
Well I had a slight bit of help from Ares aid
brisk trail
So do you get more darkness/gemstones for higher heat completion after the bounty has been claimed?
thorny mirage
don’t think so
brisk trail
Pog, 0 heat grind
mint coral
yeah you dont get any extra
brisk trail
6 minutes beat bone Hydra, am I on time to beat a 19 minute 30 second run?
10:44 beat asterius and theseus 😄 I may get a new PB!!!
12:18 done with Satyr tunnels 😮
So I have 4 gods with max affinity and have Demeter to the lock, I'm working on getting Hermes... Does Hermes count? The wiki says Demeter only needs to be at the lock
For the epilogue sorry
spare tiger
Fishing pro tip: if you’re on switch, the left joycon buzzes when it’s fake the ...
?
What do you mean by fake?
brisk trail
Dang it
I need to get Aphrodite, Ares and Dionysus to max
I'm never gonna not be playing this game
high island
Exactly as planned.
thorny mirage
All according to cake
thorny mirage
editors note: cake means keikaku
keikaku means plan
brisk trail
Hermes does need to be invited yes
Wait but the wiki says "6 of the following" there's 9 Olympians
thorny mirage
Do you know how choice works
brisk trail
If I max Hermes then I should be fine
You said Hermes has to be invited, smarty pants
twin thistle
well they all have to be invited but not all max hearted. but also you werent asking about inviting to begin with but getting max affinity?
brisk trail
I need max affinity for 6 and I knew that Demeter counted at the lock
I was making sure Hermes counted
Sorry I assumed that only the ones you max would be invited lol
manic bobcat
Do you know how choice works
yeah you gets a big boost in some stats but you are locked into only one move.
it increases power in exchange for some flexibility.
brisk trail
Wha-
manic bobcat
huh?
brisk trail
What are you referring to
manic bobcat
choice
manic bobcat
yeah, it is
pure karma
I will just max every single God and be done with it
oak gull
With Hermes, wear his trinket, iirc.
It is also a really good trinket.
~30% dodge chance and speed is pretty good. Than's trinket is also good with the stacking. ~30% more damage? Neat.
thorny mirage
yeah you have to max out his keepsake to max it
oak gull
I usually only choose for trinkets the pom fruit trinket or either one of those two, tbh.
brisk trail
will hades ever be available on iOS?
raw herald
Don't count on it
brisk trail
Lol I had the Dionysus boon that makes minimum rarity epic and got immediately back a legendary boon I sold for the achievement
reef zodiac
There’s no shot Hades gets put on iOS I’ll bet on it
brisk trail
The iPhone would melt
reef zodiac
That’s not why 
brisk trail
Also Apple yeah
reef zodiac
No
There’s like 10 buttons in this game
How would you possibly translate that to mobile
It’s just inconceivable
reef zodiac
That’s not comparable
brisk trail
Techno wizardry
Bro cry about it lol there's probably like zero demand for it anyway
So... Hazard bomb plus Eris 💀
thorny mirage
no
mint coral
is fun but requires you to stop spamming attack
gotta get those i frames
or just get delta chamber
pure karma
So there is a way to avoid damage?
mint coral
dash through the explosion
mint coral
you get like 3-5 damage from it
unless you picked artemis on special, in that case have fun if it crits
pure karma
Well the option are: Hazard Bomb, Triple Bomb and Ricochet Fire
high island
Triple Bomb is decent.
twin thistle
yeah triple is pretty good
brisk trail
@dusky viper your post in #h1-victory-boasting, any reason for FO2 over TD3? considering you only took 14 mins
dusky viper
I'm just grinding for the last aesthetic stuff
lone kernel
unless you picked artemis on special, in that case have fun if it crits
You can crit yourself with hazard bomb? Did not know that lol
brisk trail
I'm just grinding for the last aesthetic stuff
how do you mean?
dusky viper
I'm not aiming for high heat just playing for fun if that makes sense
brisk trail
oh yeah i just thought TD3 would be a lot easier than FO2 thats all
dusky viper
I just dont want those survival rooms so 1 tight deadline is enough
brisk trail
also idk how the hell you manage to get the 3 perfect duo boons + lvl 13 strike
thats some nice rng
i did 2 runs last night going for 3 duo boons, didnt get 1
dusky viper
I got sweet nectar too lol
Just choosing the right keepsakes ig
Also the mirror is important
mint coral
You can crit yourself with hazard bomb? Did not know that lol
yeah, 10-15 hp crits can happen lol
chrome wharf
just get Unshakable Mettle /s
smoky turret
yall think the last smash character is getting announced today
brisk trail
yall think the last smash character is getting announced today
Hey dudes, was wondering if top players use aim assist in speedruns and who uses aim assist in general? Also the benefits of using it and benefits of not using it. Thank you.
dull niche
for controller or kbm
idk about kbm much but on controller auto aim is basically always on
you can technically be more precise with it off but its almost impossible to do that consistently on controller and the aim assist is generally very well implemented
brisk trail
i tried turning aim assist off on KBM and it didn't feel very good
sure aim assist can be weird and make you miss sometimes, but generally it's good
pure karma
Something tells me Zeus strike on Gilgamesh is not as good as on the other aspects
brisk trail
i wouldn't think so
pure karma
How do you build Gilgamesh?
brisk trail
I turned it off right away and have been playing for about 2 weeks. Made it to Hades once and died but I see these speedruns and had no clue how guys could go so fast using the bow and rail gun unless they were using auto aim. I feel like it's kind of cheating but if most people use it then I'd turn it on if it could bring me up to a better level of play.
gilgadash
ask @twin thistle
pure karma
What boons
twin thistle
gimme a sec
brisk trail
I turned it off right away and have been playing for about 2 weeks. Made it to H...
i'd imagine >90% of people use it
Lambent plume is actually pretty good
pure karma
Lambent plume is actually pretty good
Is it really?
dull niche
auto aim feeling like cheating is your own prerogative, do whatever you feel like. but yes the majority of speedrunners and high heat players use auto aim
brisk trail
Well it is eventually
dull niche
i would say p much all of them (at least on controller since tahts what im familiar with)
brisk trail
Just gotta be vaguely quick
twin thistle
What boons
pure karma
I see
brisk trail
gilgadash zooming
brisk trail
athena attack
I'm gonna try it out and see if I do any better. Thanks for the answers dudes.
brisk trail
What's the hermes boon that turns move speed bonuses into acttack bonus?
pure karma
cause it sweeps wide
pure karma
Rush Delivery + That ms dash works the way I think it does?
mint coral
Hyper sprint?
brisk trail
The epic one that says 100% does that mean at 30% on the lambent plume is +30% attack?
dull niche
it is +30% global damage yes
pure karma
Hyper sprint?
Yeah probably dont remember the name
Dash attacks should hit like trucks with both
high island
Hyper Sprint will proc Rush Delivery immediately when you press Dash until the end of your sprint.
twin thistle
yeah rush delivery plus hypersprint = easy zeus damage
dull niche
yes hyper sprint + rush delivery is a very powerful combination for that reason
twin thistle
so youll want to try to get that
brisk trail
Yeah so I got that... Basically the butterfly bonus without the risk
twin thistle
tbh attack and special dont matter much
you pretty much just spam dash and call
also its funnier
twin thistle
eh it usually procs like twice per special
high island
Dash attacks should hit like trucks with both
Gilgamesh Dash-Attack base damage is too low to hit like a truck. It hits like the hot wheels version of a truck. 
brisk trail
To be fair I ended up with double strike and level 8 Zeus special so the damage was pretty beefy
pure karma
Gilgamesh Dash-Attack base damage is too low to hit like a truck. It hits like t...
Was talking in general
With arthur it should be solid
high island
No, you were talking in #h1-discussion.
pure karma
brisk trail
high island
brisk trail
Hermes ignored me... Smh
brisk trail
Notice my nice max level plume
Mr hermes plz
Imma rush asphodel and if Hermes doesn't give the dialogue I'm gonna jump in lava
brisk trail
And he commented on my last time being my quickest
earnest plaza
And he commented on my last time being my quickest
How quick
brisk trail
Does anyone here have auto aim turned off?
earnest plaza
Does anyone here have auto aim turned off?
Yes
brisk trail
Not quick, 20 mins and 58 seconds
brisk trail
I mean no but I've seen people get like 16 minutes
earnest plaza
Well those people are weird and lucky
high island
You don't need luck for 16m IGT clears.
raw herald
Yeah at 16 mins you just need to know what boons to take and how to generally move quickly I guess
split owl
Haelian did 40 heat in under 10 minutes. Now that takes effort.
raw herald
A certain camel recently did 50 heat in 7:30
Actually didn't know haelian still did speedruns, let alone heat speedruns.
raw herald
Haelian did 40 heat in under 10 minutes. Now that takes effort.
What aspect did he use?
split owl
I don't remember, I just saw the video a couple days ago.
pure karma
Did you watch it on yt? I can't find it
earnest plaza
That's dope. You use a controller?
Nah I'm lying
brisk trail
Will we ever get a place to playtest build Ideas? Like the courtyard but with boons and hammers that you can adjust to see fun things
brisk trail
Nah I'm lying
This is way easier with it turned on lol
twin thistle
how even does dash striking with the rail and auto aim turned off work
smoky turret
when is hades 2
brisk trail
Hades 2: The ransacking of Hel
vagrant grove
Hel? as in Norse mythology or just a typo
brisk trail
Yeah I meant Norse Hel
chrome wharf
or go to Chinese hell with 18 great levels
vagrant grove
Or you play as Lucifer fighting God with only Lucifer aspect rail
brisk trail
Would a game about murdering God be green lit lmao
vagrant grove
probably not, although it really shouldn't matter lole, after all Doom exists
vagrant grove
let the Christians and Catholics and all the other branches of that religion decide whether they buy it
brisk trail
What are they going to do? Send the inquisition?
vagrant grove
What are they going to do? Send the inquisition?
LMAO
brisk trail
Mhm tasty orange soder
rose barn
I've been watching a few runs on YT, why do people pause the game before or as the door previews appear?
lone kernel
I've been watching a few runs on YT, why do people pause the game before or as t...
So they can think it over without losing time on their tight deadline
lone kernel
Haha yeah you can pause it if you’re on a timer to have the internal monologue of if I get x I’ll get y etc etc
Also sometimes to take a deep breath if it was a sweaty room
earnest plaza
when is hades 2
Hades 2: this time there's parkour
lone kernel
Hades 2: this time there's parkour
get a boon from James Bond
brisk trail
"license to kill" you get 0.4% increase to obol gain for every 7th kill
Or more 007th kill
hearty sierra
Will we ever get a place to playtest build Ideas? Like the courtyard but with bo...
The closest you'll get is mods
brisk trail
The closest you'll get is mods
Yikes
mortal marten
Tried using a Death Defiance in the forest nymph's room. She had no reaction lines unfortunately.
modern garnet
Dang.... only special room character that can watch you die
high island
All of them can if you have Hazard Bomb.
modern garnet
Truee
brisk trail
thinking about doing my first hera build
does mirage shot work with true shot + hera?
thinking of going for artemis attack+cast, poseidon special, mirage shot and quick reload + greater recall
modern garnet
Sounds like a good build
brisk trail
me whos never used mirage shot:
modern garnet
I know mirage shot is bugged to be incredibly good on beowulf, no idea what it does to hera
brisk trail
im trying to find a good use for the persephone keepsake
olive goblet
brisk trail
im thinking more like elysium since for styx i always use acorn or skelly tooth
most people just use acorn at elysium and styx
if youre confident in your theseus and hades though persephone is good
twin thistle
I know mirage shot is bugged to be incredibly good on beowulf, no idea what it d...
only bugged for dio cast on hera from what i know
high island
Yep.
fast willow
most people just use acorn at elysium and styx
is acorn better than skelly tooth
twin thistle
yeah since dad hits hard and champs do on higher heat
brisk trail
Anyone know if speed runners use auto aim?
ivory nacelle
I usually use Athena’s keepsake for Tartarus, just so I can get carried with Divine Dash, I use whatever gods keepsake I need for my build in asphodel, and then I use Hermes’ Keepsake for elysium and styx
raw herald
Anyone know if speed runners use auto aim?
I do
I think most others do as well
For controller at least
ivory nacelle
Is auto aim a pc thing, if not, ive never heard of it
fast willow
how would you even hit anything on controller without auto aim
fast willow
Is auto aim a pc thing, if not, ive never heard of it
i think there is autoaim on PC but it doesnt feel like its as huge a snap as ive seen it be on controller
ivory nacelle
Yeah, on controller, you press the thing to attack, and it immediately snaps you to an enemy
That’s why I like bow
brisk trail
I've switched it on after 25 hours of play with no auto aim and I kill alot faster with it but kind of feel like it's more rewarding without it
twin thistle
does dash striking with the rail without auto aim even work
actually just using rail attack in general
brisk trail
Its automatically enabled though so I think that's how the devs expect people to play. I'm able to dash strike without it. The only problem is zagreus moves sometimes when you're aiming by yourself which can put you in a spot you don't want to be. I think I'm going to leave it on for more fluid gameplay
Everything looks alot smoother with it
twin thistle
having movement and aiming on the same stick just seems like a pain
brisk trail
having movement and aiming on the same stick just seems like a pain
Yeah that's the issue I have with not using auto aim
The game is alot more enjoyable with auto aim on. I thought it was amazing without it but this takes it up a level. Does diablo have auto aim as an option?
twin thistle
wise sail
how do i get the secret aspect for the sword?
fast willow
does Achilles buff affect call damage
raw herald
No
rapid forum
no
raw herald
Just attack and cast
rapid forum
attack and cats only
fast willow
oh not even special?
rapid forum
no
fast willow
I thought it did
rapid forum
I think it was just you
twin thistle
well it does what it says 
pure karma
Good morning people
vapid narwhal
achilles only affects attack and cast damage
twin thistle
good uh night
pure karma
good uh night <:dusa:522248771409543188>
You mean there is more than one timezone????
twin thistle
impossible
pure karma
I learn so much!
rapid forum
Blood and Darkness, I just used Blood and Darkness as a curse.... Blood and Darkness
pure karma
Chill on rama special is only good with arctic blast
pure karma
I understand that chill in high heat runs is very good
rapid forum
damage wise demeter is underwhelming, even though I find it fun
and yes, it's to counter FO
rapid forum
that should be athena
pure karma
you sure?
vapid narwhal
the most common demeter use for high heat is snow burst
pure karma
Looking at the numbners in wiki
vapid narwhal
most commonly seen on Hera and Beowulf
pure karma
demeter and athena are exazctly the same
vapid narwhal
plus Rare Crop and maybe Ravenous Will
a pure demeter damage/mechanic focused build is... sorta underwhelming
well, you dont see people build with Athena's full kit either, she is also predominantly a support role, plus ME
raw herald
I thought demeter's stuff are second highest raw damage
The special is joint last out of the % bonuses
Also Demeter special on Rama is great with killing freeze
steady geyser
Is it just me or do 2-boon-rooms seem to usually pick boons of gods that you’ve already picked?
twin thistle
well without fo everything already feels slow enough
raw herald
Is it just me or do 2-boon-rooms seem to usually pick boons of gods that you’ve ...
They pick from gods that are already in your god pool
vapid narwhal
trial rooms will never be new gods
will always be from the pool you already unlocked on the run, excluding Hermes
so it will never spawn before you have two gods picked
in addition, trial room rewards will never give you duos
small parrot
IIRC, you can't really pom Frost Strike and Frost Flourish
small parrot
rough
ashen nova
in addition, trial room rewards will never give you duos
wait really? That's good to know
steady geyser
Are there rooms where you have to kill a certain # of enemies? I swear sometimes a room ends before I’ve killed everyone, like some enemies just disappear
steady geyser
Nah not those
pure karma
Beowul with Trippy Shot seems underwhelimg
vapid narwhal
but those will not spawn if you have Tight Deadline
pure karma
Am I doing something wrong?
vapid narwhal
dont use infernal soul
vapid narwhal
use Stygian soul (single cast)
vapid narwhal
get extra cast from chaos and fully loaded from Artemis if you can
vapid narwhal
quick reload from hermes also help
vapid narwhal
2 casts should work