h1-discussion

[pure karma]

I legit cannot play

How many runs since I died to mino miniboss? Yep that did it.

[pure karma]

uhhh, Aspect of Poseidon seems extremely underwhelming? I thought the dislodge itself did damage

[signal aspen]

it does with an artemis boon

[pure karma]

Is that damage per ?

[signal aspen]

yeah

[pure karma]

hm

I am gonna try this. Just have to make sure I dont take any cast that doest lodge in enemies

[thorny mirage]

???

how is it underwhelming

Big damage

Cast damage

[reef zodiac]

But the cast damage is a lot less than it would be with Achilles

[last veldt]

Poseidon sword, Athena or Aphrodite cast, flurry cast, exit wounds... Pop pop pop bang.

[pure karma]

Athena and Aphro casts lodge?

[last veldt]

Yeah but special will pop them out

Run up to enemy, hold cast, enemy melts, get cast back.

Use special if they are rude enough to not just die there and then.

[pure karma]

Using artemis cast right now

seems to work

[thorny mirage]

mfw

[last veldt]

I prefer Aphrodite to Athena in this case since if you miss you get the cast straight back.

[reef zodiac]

Athena cast for Poseidon sword is the way to go imo

[last veldt]

I'll give it try after I melt Dad with Crush Shot

[barren ocean]

Anyone got tips on how to get faster? ive been trying to Tight Deadline at 5min and i run out of time by the time i get to Dad

And the extra dmg isnt really helping at higher heats

[manic bobcat]

are you using maxed mirror, aspects, etc?

[barren ocean]

ye

this might just be a git gud moment lol

[manic bobcat]

also how high are we talking about?

[barren ocean]

Im trying for 20 heat rn

[manic bobcat]

https://www.speedrun.com/hades/guide/5km0y

This is for speedrunning, but a lot of it also applies for normal "trying to be faster run"

In general, improving your builds, don't shy from taking free rooms, learn how to use Meg effectively. Those 3 things helped me a lot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-Iovk-sbe8

[barren ocean]

Oh i use Than

Thats interesting

[manic bobcat]

oh here is the Meg guide

[barren ocean]

Ill read that up

Thanks!!

[manic bobcat]

you can basically skip a lot of minibosses fights with it

[barren ocean]

oh that checks out

[rain relic]

well then

i'm using the Twin Fists right now because they're the only weapon (except the one i will never use) i have that isn't at heat level 4 yet, and i completely forgot about the hidden aspect

Asterius just gave me the waking phrase

man it's nice to get stuff that's kinda hard to get on accident

[thorny mirage]

@reef zodiac https://tiermaker.com/create/hades-weapons-and-aspects-82372

[reef zodiac]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/868852801663565824/888815249875165274/image0.png

[manic bobcat]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/802615525141643265/888815532978081853/unknown.png

True and factual

[thorny mirage]

mfw

[reef zodiac]

Hestia is a bow

[manic bobcat]

i said what i said

[reef zodiac]

I play Zag shield like a bow

I get charged shot

Although I guess I do a lot of dash strikes too

So it’s not the same

Either way, it’s hard to argue with Beowulf being the best aspect in the game

[rain relic]

i would share my tierlist if i could but i can't :/

[manic bobcat]

why not?

[rain relic]

i'm trying to copy/paste it but it isn't working

[manic bobcat]

i mean it's not that good to clear DC2 so there are situations where it is not the best.

[reef zodiac]

Well even at high heat it’s probably the second best

[manic bobcat]

Rama Eris Hestia is probably easier to pilot i think

[reef zodiac]

Also true

[rain relic]

do i need to do something specific to copy/paste my tier list or is Discord just being dumb?

[pure karma]

So. Seems like a valid strategy for farming Titan Blood is to keep increasing heat by 1 and clearing Tartarus. I guess up to 10-15 heat shouldnt be too hard just to clear Tartarus. Right?

[jade zenith]

if you want to farm titan blood then you want full clears

[pure karma]

I mean, that is much harder and takes much longer no?

[reef zodiac]

Hades drops titan blood

[jade zenith]

the game doesn't let you get the next tier of titan blood until you have cleared the previous one

[reef zodiac]

Yeah also that

[jade zenith]

you can clear tartarus once with each weapon for a titan blood

[pure karma]

oh ok

[pure karma]

wiat that's what I meant

[jade zenith]

but you need a full clear to refresh the tartarus reward

[rain relic]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/796403211903696936/888818304704184421/Tierlist.png

there we go

[pure karma]

hm so heat 0 tartarus gives blood. If I dont clear heat 0, I won't get the blood from heat 1?

[jade zenith]

do a clear at 0 heat before raising it at all

[pure karma]

I have done all heat 0

[jade zenith]

0 heat bounties are weird

[pure karma]

on all wapons

was an example

[jade zenith]

if you do 1 heat tartarus and then die with each weapon you get 6 titan blood
if you then do 2 heat tartarus without a full clear with each weapon then you get 300 darkness

[pure karma]

what

I see

I get it

ok

[raw herald]

http://imgur.com/a/NFStdeM I made this in 30 seconds

Speedrunning btw

No heat

The complicated one will come later

[chrome wharf]

ehhhh Chiron is on thin ice

[manic bobcat]

crap

true true

[high island]

https://i.imgur.com/QaQ7VN4.png

[raw herald]

Let me guess: pink aspects are S

[high island]

H-how did you notice?

[signal aspen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/659820450297282585/888821387567980644/stinky_tierlist.png

[thorny mirage]

I genuinely think approval process hates all my duo boons

[chrome wharf]

Zag sword in A?

[signal aspen]

my unga bunga brain just put the weapons in random places

[thorny mirage]

Every single duo offered has been removed

[rain relic]

same, with the exclusion of my favourites and the shields

[high island]

Nice. 2 Heat well spent.

[chrome wharf]

is there a template for this

[high island]

#h1-discussion message

[thorny mirage]

I sent it earlier in chat

[wise oasis]

I thought you said Chiron was Aphrodite's aspect

[thorny mirage]

I always thought that coronacht’s god aspect should’ve been aspect of eros

[reef zodiac]

AP is so painful

What heat are you playing at?

[raw herald]

http://imgur.com/a/JZ5l5DD

[reef zodiac]

Guan Yu is ME?

[raw herald]

Yep

And is one of the best ME weapons tbh, at least in modded

[reef zodiac]

Why

[raw herald]

Guaranteed charged skewer means that you don't need ME till elysium

[reef zodiac]

Why do you need ME if you have charged skewer?

[raw herald]

Because with ME you tend to do quite a lot of damage

[reef zodiac]

I guess charged skewer Guan Yu is still not great damage

[raw herald]

Athena special start takes care of all the big mobs

[high island]

Are you questioning the high priestess of the Temple of Aphrodite?

[pure karma]

Thanatos: Deals 9999 damage with every move.
Also Thanatos sometimes when I kill smth with my 100 damage: "Dirty move"

[high island]

Also Thanatos when you call for help: "Here's a third of my power."

[pure karma]

I have never called for help. Yet every time he goes "Ayyy you called bro?"

[high island]

I mean when you summon him.

[pure karma]

You can summon him?

You can summon things?

what

[manic bobcat]

yeah

it's the companion stuff

you can carpet bomb things with meg

[thorny mirage]

Aphrodite is kinda boring tho

also tfw joycon drift steers you into hades spin killing you

[chrome wharf]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/867888481324761108/888826742280691722/hades_weapons.png?width=735&height=539

[raw herald]

Uh oh

[thorny mirage]

is this a general list

[chrome wharf]

it's how much I like them

[thorny mirage]

mfw when chaos shield bottom of list

[reef zodiac]

Be careful what you say around Nyaa

It is probably the worst shield. But still probably in the top 10

Because it’s a shield

[reef zodiac]

You love all the other bows but hate Chiron? Why?

Also, what makes Chaos shield so upsetting to you I’m actually curious

[pure karma]

Is that Poseidon Aspect in the lowest tier by Nyaa? I thought it was considered good.

[ripe anvil]

rip gilgamesh

[reef zodiac]

It’s good for speed, but it sucks at higher heat

Although

That tier list is a joke

Clearly

[pure karma]

How much do you consider higher heat?

[reef zodiac]

Idk like 40?

[pure karma]

I see

[reef zodiac]

Maybe more

Depends on the context

[raw herald]

Nyaa's tier list was sorted by colour

[high island]

No. By color.

[thorny mirage]

i think you mean colour

[reef zodiac]

Nah I think it was sorted by color

[manic bobcat]

Ew, br*tish

[rain relic]

We're not the one adding random letters to words and removing letters from other words

[raw herald]

Poor bri ish people

[merry bane]

stupid charon, ruining my streak

[pure karma]

Lmao

[manic bobcat]

Just kd love ya, bri ish or not

[thorny mirage]

I’m murican

[pure karma]

I was just thinking "will Hades ever just let me go once without a fight? nah probably not" and he just did on this run

[manic bobcat]

Yay

Go

Run

Don't turn back

[thorny mirage]

Also have secured red heartbreak strike on arthur build

[rain relic]

enjoy it, it's the only time he will ever do that

[raw herald]

All of my Hades pronunciations are american

Lmao

[thorny mirage]

Also can he like

not let you go after if you stay too long for that one

[manic bobcat]

I don't think so?

Never tested that theory though

[rain relic]

i'm about to complete 5 prophecies in one run

lol

[reef zodiac]

Beeeg swing

[thorny mirage]

It’s also pom lvl 6

[reef zodiac]

Damn

What’s the %?

[thorny mirage]

180

[reef zodiac]

That’s sick

[thorny mirage]

Also murdered charon so money not an issue

[reef zodiac]

I’m gonna do a few 45 heat Arthur attempts

Arthur is worse than I remembered

[high island]

lol

It's worse relative to other aspects the higher you go, pretty much.

[reef zodiac]

If you stack enough Stygian shards can you get Hades to die to his own pots?

[high island]

Yes.

They stack multiplicatively, too, so that's nice.

[reef zodiac]

Yeah

Has anyone done that?

[high island]

Yes.

[stoic flame]

mfw gilga in tier A

[reef zodiac]

It’s very red

I’d say it belongs

[stoic flame]

[reef zodiac]

Yeah idk if I can do this

This aspect sucks

[pure karma]

Which aspect?

[reef zodiac]

Arthur

[pure karma]

I thought that was a good one

[twin thistle]

not so much with fo2

[burnt breach]

wtf is guan yu doing in A tier

[twin thistle]

its red

[burnt breach]

?

[signal aspen]

nyaanyaas' tierlist was sorted by color

[twin thistle]

nyaas tierlist is literally color coded

[raw herald]

Colour yeah

[signal aspen]

if thats what you are talking about

[raw herald]

It deserves in A anyway

[burnt breach]

oh lmao

thought it was the high heat tier list

[twin thistle]

until game doesnt give you charged skewer

[high island]

All my tier lists are evidence-based.

[burnt breach]

dude your evidence is

[high island]

Exactly.

[pure karma]

Feels like Guan Yu is bad

[reef zodiac]

It’s actually red

[reef zodiac]

[reef zodiac]

I beat 42 heat without Charged Skewer today, it just took Serrated Point (and smoldering air Athena’s aid second wind billowing strength)

[pure karma]

Hm

I have 39 hp

Guan Yu cuts your hp

?

[last veldt]

Yes

[reef zodiac]

Yes

[twin thistle]

yep

[reef zodiac]

Bad aspect

[pure karma]

And what is the upside?

[reef zodiac]

Uhhhh

Piercing special?

[twin thistle]

kinda tells you right in the description

[last veldt]

All the heals

[twin thistle]

the heals are kinda meh

[reef zodiac]

Super slow spin attack that heals but is too slow to use well?

[last veldt]

There are hammers that can help

[high island]

Is the spin too slow or are you?

[pure karma]

So some bad lifesteal and a meme special

got it

[reef zodiac]

The spin is.

[signal aspen]

no you are

git gud

[pure karma]

I got the fast spin hammer

it still sucks

[reef zodiac]

With quick spin it’s alright

[hollow wave]

Hey question about Styx

Is the bag behind any door or only the ones with a skull on them?

[twin thistle]

all you get is a special that hits a ton of stuff and hits somewhat hard with charged skewer

[twin thistle]

any

[hollow wave]

Alright

[high island]

I wrote a short guide for Guan Yu here if you want tips. #h1-discussion message

[signal aspen]

its never in the 1st door

[hollow wave]

Next question this time about Guan Yu prophecy

[signal aspen]

theres a 50% chance its in the second door

[hollow wave]

Do ya have to have a successful run or just need to get past Styx to complete it?

[signal aspen]

make it to dad

[twin thistle]

past styx

[hollow wave]

Good good

[signal aspen]

no need to kill him

for the prophecy

[hollow wave]

Well

[manic bobcat]

I would recommend you taking all the skull doors regardless.
It's easier and the reward is higher.
Sometimes you get the better reward for free too if it's your 2nd room.

[hollow wave]

'Kill'

[wise oasis]

He does die, just like you do

[pure karma]

I got Zeus strike cause I thought it would be super wrong with the spin hitting fast

I was wrong

[wise oasis]

he just hits respawn

built diff

[hollow wave]

*What if Hades was on hardcore mode

[signal aspen]

he dies and never comes back

[manic bobcat]

If you die your save file is deleted

Streak or die

[high island]

If Hades dies, your save is deleted, too.

Because he was using the same save.

[pure karma]

Every time you die cerberus loses a head.

You have 3 tries

That motivates you to not die.

[wise oasis]

I follow Horace's Cerberus

1 dog head and 100 snake heads

now I have 100 attempts

[dusky wedge]

That… kinda makes sense

Anyway, was here to tell that I’m still bad at the bow 🥲

[hollow wave]

After saying Hades on Hardcore Im imagining him wearing Philza's outfit

[pure karma]

Ok guys I figured out how to get wins with Guan Yu

I am gonna make a cast build and never use the weapon itself

[reef zodiac]

What

No

[signal aspen]

big brain

[reef zodiac]

Then it’s just -50% health

[dusky wedge]

Wish there were hammers that affects casts

[pure karma]

Yeah but I want the blood somehow

[reef zodiac]

Then get Charged Skewer

[pure karma]

Easier to make a double duo cast build than to find hammers so far

[reef zodiac]

No it’s not easier

Trust me

[pure karma]

in this run it is

[dusky wedge]

Guan Yu has become this very one-dimensional aspect, kinda lol

[reef zodiac]

Guan Yu is probably the single worst weapon in the game for a cast build

[twin thistle]

can go ME if no skewer

[quartz hearth]

People suggesting the Kraken as a bonus boss last night, all excited, and here I am with my gut-shivering terror of large underwater monsters like 😱 NOPE

[reef zodiac]

You can also use Serrated Point

[reef zodiac]

Have you ever played Subnautica

[twin thistle]

-25% dash length

[high island]

The Kraken is not Greek.

[quartz hearth]

I am 100% satisfied with my gameplay experience NOT involving any large underwater monsters

[wise oasis]

cetus boss fight pog

[quartz hearth]

(that too, although neither are Guan Yu or Beowulf)

[reef zodiac]

#h1-victory-boasting message

[dusky wedge]

But, but… Zeus released the Kraken!

[quartz hearth]

(GUAN Yu, not GUAC Yu, autocorrect!)

(the spear shoots fireworks, not avocado toast)

[high island]

That usually works if you're having difficulty with an aspect. Guan Yu is really gonna take practice, anyway.

[quartz hearth]

Nope! And for a good reason!! 😃

[reef zodiac]

Play it

[pure karma]

Well I died to Tisiphone

I had never died to Tisiphone before

ever

[reef zodiac]

[twin thistle]

just dont die

[high island]

Nope. Norse mythology.

[signal aspen]

no the kraken is from minecraft lore

[hollow wave]

I just gave Hypnos the autograph

MY HEART

[twin thistle]

ew letting theseus kill you

[signal aspen]

i dont think ive gotten the autograph for hypnos yet

[quartz hearth]

I could barely get through the boss fight in Shadow of the Colossus with the giant eel colossus

[hollow wave]

Hades got me

[quartz hearth]

You know, the one where you have to swim out into the big lake and paddle around helplessly, a tiny creature bobbing on the surface of this deep abyss, until this enormous serpentine thing rises up out of the depths at you

[twin thistle]

pretty sure to get the autograph theseus needs to have killed you a couple times

[quartz hearth]

Primal Terror

[high island]

The sea monsters in Greek mythology are Scylla and Charybdis.

[hollow wave]

He got me a LOT during the Guan Yu runs

[quartz hearth]

I had a copy of D'aulaire's Book of Greek Myths as a little kid and I always had to page past the illustration of Scylla and Charybdis ASAP

[dusky wedge]

I mostly known Scylla as a weapon

[quartz hearth]

Giant whirlpool mouth sea monster? NO THANKS 😆

[dusky wedge]

Is that what Scylla is? ^

[thorny mirage]

I remember that

[quartz hearth]

That's Charybdis

[thorny mirage]

charybdis is whirlpool sea monster

I read that in 2nd grade

[dusky wedge]

Oh

[quartz hearth]

Scylla was.... Real Weird

Like...a giant lady with a bunch of dogs instead of legs?

[thorny mirage]

scylla was like…sorta a multi headed dragon?

[dusky wedge]

Then Scylla was a 3 headed sea monster? Maybe? From my vague memory?

[quartz hearth]

And the dogs are all ravenous and eat people

She was up on a rock on one side of this pass, and Charybdis was on the other side of the pass sucking down everything that got too close

[dusky wedge]

Oh, man, this is real “people gossiping” territory here lol

Like, just people passing by campfire horror stories lmao

[quartz hearth]

So the idea was that, if you wanted to get through the pass, you had to decide whether to steer closer to Scylla, who would definitely snatch up several of your crewmen and eat them, or Charybdis, who would suck down your entire ship if you got too close

Sacrifice a guaranteed few, or risk the lives of everyone

[hollow wave]

So I finally put 6 Titan Blood into the Rail, and Zeus didn't say anything about it

Is it because I used the Thunder Signet (for the first time( to summon him?

[signal aspen]

no

its because you have bad dialogue rng

[hollow wave]

does the pain ever end?

[signal aspen]

yesn't

[twin thistle]

no

[quartz hearth]

I just looked it up, accounts of Scylla vary but she's always got the front halves of six dogs sprouting out of her lower body and they devour six sailors if you get too close

She additionally gets attributed everything from a cat's tail (cute!) to a serpent's tail (debatable) to a bunch of tentacles (okay sure) to six monstrous heads lined with three rows of shark teeth (yikes friend)

I feel like a SGG version of her would get along well with Cerberus at least

RNG savors your pain

This is why I always 🤔 when people ask for more content

There's already so much content that RNG can deny you the thing you're seeking for dozens of runs if you're unlucky, y'know?

[hollow wave]

It denied me Patroclus nearly EVERY GUAN YU RUN

[quartz hearth]

No sad man for you!!! 🙃

[thorny mirage]

The hell

[quartz hearth]

She's an extremely weird monster!!

There's a reason why she frequently gets redesigned for video games as "uhhh a many headed snake/dragon thing I guess?"

[brave portal]

That was the guardian of atlantis or something like that right?

[chrome wharf]

isn't this the trolley problem but on water

[steady geyser]

So, with the demeter cast you don’t get the benefit of Boiling/Abyssal Blood. Is it still a good cast then?

[twin thistle]

well you can do this sooo https://imgur.com/a/FSH1q5t

[steady geyser]

So I feel like on its own it’s weak because no Boiling Blood, but if you get more cast buffing boons then it makes up for it

[twin thistle]

yeah no point on a non cast build

[vapid phoenix]

Jesus man

[craggy pumice]

Stygian or infernal for hunting blades?

[mint coral]

Both should work but stygian wants extra casts

[vapid phoenix]

Best god for Demeter gloves?

[brisk trail]

maybe artemis on the spec?

How do I get the companions to work on Hades?

[brisk trail]

Achilles aspect boosts the damage of the whole cast

[thorny mirage]

You need 4 hearts with hades, 7 hearts with two of the companions givers

one of the companions has to be thanatos, meg, dusa or achilles

Other has to be sisyphus or skelly

[brisk trail]

I need sissyphus or skelly?

I have than up to 7

[pure karma]

Oh no, Alecto talked smack about Persephone. She has to go.

[high island]

I wrote a guide for the aspect with different builds that are pretty good. #h1-builds-and-combat message

Note, there are plenty more viable builds on it.

[pure karma]

I BEAT CHARON

[craggy pumice]

Such as ?

[high island]

Heartbreak Strike + Deadly Flourish + Heart Rend is pretty good, for one.

You can do good things with Blade Dash.

Drunken Strike, Deadly Flourish, Passion Dash and their Duo Boons.

Lightning Strike, Deadly Flourish, Tidal Dash.

[pure karma]

Are there mods for this game?

[high island]

Yeah, the modding discord is pinned in #self-promotion.

[drowsy field]

So i stopped playing for a while and restarted recently and i noticed something with the chaos shield special...do the bonus shield not get the special boons effect anymore and just the main shield?

[vapid phoenix]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/700889124697014322/888913074319400990/unknown.png

which of these are particularly good

[drowsy field]

all are pretty good imo, im partial to supernova tho

[reef zodiac]

Flurry Slash is probably the worst hammer in the game

Actually, all of those are awful but super nova is probably the best one

Cruel Trust is basically useless but Flurry Slash is definitely useless

[drowsy field]

i wouldnt say theyre useless otherwise they might as well be nonexistant

[reef zodiac]

Yes I agree. They might as well be nonexistent

They don’t do anything

[mint coral]

Just take any of them, gotta get those prophecies

[split owl]

^ If I see a prophecy I haven't done yet, I'll take any that help me fulfill it. The prophecies give some great rewards.

[steady geyser]

But mostly just gems

[reef zodiac]

You guys still have unfulfilled prophecies?

[steady geyser]

What about flurry slash + the one that gives you 2hp per hit

[raw herald]

Yeah that's a solid combo that can carry early clears

Fun too

[reef zodiac]

[steady geyser]

I just finished a run with excalibur, the +2hp one with +30% attack speed. It was solid

[split owl]

I mostly have the Legendary and Duo Boon prophecies remaining, other then the stuff tied directly to the epilogue.

[reef zodiac]

Fair ig

I did a bunch of runs to get all the legendaries and duos once

I did all that before my 200th run I think

[split owl]

I mean, the game only came to Game Pass on August 13th, so I think that's pretty good for basically just starting the game.

[steady geyser]

200th run… just.. starting

[split owl]

I just did my official 100th run yesterday, but it was a bow run, and Hades got me. I can make it to him without any issues, but once I get there, it is vastly dependant on my weapon, hammers and boons.

[pure karma]

I am at ~80 runs and I feel like I just started playing

Like I know literally nothing about the game

[brisk trail]

nah for me if i beat elysium then i beat hades

elysium boss is harder than hades imo

[ivory nacelle]

Theseus has the easiest patterns in the game

[split owl]

I have a hard time with the bow. It's the only weapon Hades kills me with.

All others, I might lose one or two Death Defiances, but I can easily dispatch him.

[brisk trail]

theseus is hard because im focused on dodging the bull and not him

[pure karma]

Shield sucks. Why isn't my shield that way?

[brisk trail]

i think most people think shield is the best weapon in the game

[pure karma]

No I mean his shield

[brisk trail]

what

[pure karma]

I want my shield to block 100% at the front at all times like his shield

[ivory nacelle]

His shield blocks all attacks at his front

Unless it’s a call I believe

Even Artemis or Aphrodite

[pure karma]

Yes, why doesn't our shield work that way. Come on Zagreus, use the shield properly.

[ivory nacelle]

That would make shield best in the game

[steady geyser]

Sheild is the best in the game 😎

[ivory nacelle]

Imo, all weapons and boon setups are good, you can’t really go wrong with anything

[signal aspen]

Just use beowulf

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/787779476888354816/869727407471485048/chart_1.jpeg

This is what beo blocks

[pure karma]

at all times?

[raw herald]

Yes

[pure karma]

what

[raw herald]

OP

You might notice that zag holds the shield so that it covers his right side

[brisk trail]

cuz he's right handed innit

[cloud lichen]

they call me the hades genius

[signal aspen]

Who

[cloud lichen]

😎 👌

[brisk trail]

no one calls you that

[signal aspen]

Bruh

[pure karma]

Lies, Beo doesn't block unless you are readying Bull Rush. I tried it. BOOOOO

[signal aspen]

[stiff parcel]

[reef zodiac]

Eww that’s really weird

PSA: Do not take AP, RI, HS, or EM4 at 32 heat unless you want an additional challenge. These pacts are brutal and easily avoidable so just keep them off at 32 if you want an easier time.

I just feel like everyone should have this bit of information

[reef zodiac]

No, obviously not

And another PSA: Use Dark Foresight. Always. Just always use it.

[signal aspen]

Ok pancake man

[brisk trail]

Okay I can't even slightly do 32 heat

[reef zodiac]

Join the club of people in #h1-high-heat-strategies

We’re helping people who “can’t do 32 heat”

[brisk trail]

How dare you believe in me

[reef zodiac]

32 heat isn’t that bad. You can do it, you just need a good mirror + pact + build

[twin thistle]

ppl shooting themselves in the foot with bad pacts and mirrors

[reef zodiac]

By good build I just mean a good outline for a build

[reef zodiac]

Exactly. “I can’t do 32 heat! I keep dying to Hades phase 3 because I have no DDs!”

[brisk trail]

I didn't have it set up too bad

I struggle with the increased speed of enemies I think

[reef zodiac]

FO1 or FO2?

I don’t advise FO2 at 32 heat, but some people do

[twin thistle]

yeah fo2 isnt needed for 32 and it increases the difficulty by a large amount

[brisk trail]

It's stupid on the projectile enemies

[reef zodiac]

@brisk trail you’re not using any of these right?

[twin thistle]

fo2 speeder witches

[reef zodiac]

Are you using TD3?

[twin thistle]

just link your pact

[brisk trail]

I'm too sleepy rn to remember exactly sorry lol

[reef zodiac]

Fair

Let us know when you want help with it

We’re happy to give advice

[brisk trail]

But yeah em4 was probably not a good idea

[mint coral]

lightning phalanx was more fun than i remember

[twin thistle]

yeah dont take that....

[mint coral]

big cast

[brisk trail]

Didn't even get to Theseus anyway

[steady geyser]

So I just fought Theseus with Extreme Measures on for the first time and… wtf

[brisk trail]

Yes

[steady geyser]

[mint coral]

mini gun goes brrr

[brisk trail]

laughs manically

[high island]

Just... don't take FO at all on 32. Problem solved.

[reef zodiac]

Yeah don’t do that god no

I’m the biggest anti-EM4 person on this server

EM4 is so insanely hard

[high island]

I've hated EM4 since before you started playing Hades at all.

[reef zodiac]

As I once said “If I was gonna do EM4, I might as well have never even started that run in the first place because at least that way I wouldn’t have wasted 40+ minutes of focus”

[reef zodiac]

Fair

I honestly enjoy EM4 when it’s my only pact though

[brisk trail]

I've only beat em4 once and without anything else on the pact

[reef zodiac]

I do EM4 for my casual low heat runs

[brisk trail]

At least the 32 heat runs I did sped up the nectar gifting lol

[crystal jackal]

whats the hades monthly challenge

[uncut dagger]

I don't think there is one

[mint coral]

first time i sold a boon without remembering i had the chaos "cant gain money" curse lmao

[crystal jackal]

oh i was asking like what does it mean

[uncut dagger]

oh

[mint coral]

check #h1-builds-and-combat pins

[uncut dagger]

it's a little challenge per month, like getting the "Disciple of Poseidon" with Poseidon's Keepsake on you

or getting a boon to level 20

it can be pretty much anything, themed to the month

[split owl]

There hasn't been a new one since July though, so it's not really Monthly. lol

[crystal jackal]

ah i see

[uncut dagger]

yeah

[split owl]

June*

[uncut dagger]

eh, I don't complain much

[crystal jackal]

i haven't played hades in a while

i should probably get back to it

[split owl]

This is one of my favorite games. I'm really bad at Roguelikes, having not beaten a run in most I've played. I'm up to 25 clears on Hades.

[uncut dagger]

you'll get there

[crystal jackal]

oh damn nice

[crystal jackal]

hades was actually my first roguelike

i bought it on switch

[split owl]

I die before even hitting the first biome on Dead Cells. I finally beat the first tier on Curse of the Dead Gods after over a year of trying.

[uncut dagger]

Hades wasn't my first, but it is definitely my favorite

[crystal jackal]

yep

[split owl]

I had to turn Assist Mode on for Going Under or I couldn't even make it to the second floor of the first dungeon.

[crystal jackal]

oh i heard going under was really good

[mint coral]

epic greater haste + hyper sprint and that one hammer shield that gives +20% movement speed after blocking let me outrun fo2 asterius lmao

and ofc i dont get a 3rd hermes to get rush delivery

[crystal jackal]

oh one time i got an epic greater haste and two of the ichor things active with hyper sprint

[vapid phoenix]

finally got the aspect of arthur

gonna melt things now with artemis

finally escape with the sword

[crystal jackal]

nice

[steady geyser]

Anyone tried Excalibur w/ Aphrodite/Athena boons and Abyssal Blood and Myrmidon Bracers? I.e. racking up dmg resistance?

[crystal jackal]

nope

[signal aspen]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/725021639506526249/834866333970595911/Screenshot_175.png

[crystal jackal]

sheesh

what menu theme is that

[signal aspen]

Chaos theme

[steady geyser]

So that’s like -147% dmg taken from weak enemies in front of you?

in the aura

[crystal jackal]

ty

[signal aspen]

Damage resistance is multiplicative

[steady geyser]

Aw

[signal aspen]

I don't wanna do the math rn

[steady geyser]

😔

[signal aspen]

It's still pretty high

Took like 4 damage per spin from hades

[steady geyser]

Shoulda had Abyssal Blood too

[signal aspen]

Yeah I forgot about that

[crystal jackal]

what lmfao

jesus christ

[signal aspen]

Yeah it makes the game ez

Boutta beat 61 heat with it

[crystal jackal]

damn i gotta try that

[crystal jackal]

why does chaos look like james charles

[modern garnet]

I mean there's a limited number of examples of androgyny in modern culture

[crystal jackal]

fair enough

[quartz hearth]

I actually quite like Chiron? It's making me enjoy bow again?

[reef zodiac]

Is it? So if I have broken resolve, and I get bronze skin, it’s actually gonna do a lot more than 10%?

[quartz hearth]

I got some nice boons and upgrades and by the time I got to Styx it was melting through everything in my path

[mint coral]

Chiron is comfy

[inner grove]

Does Different League and Bronze Skin really help vs bosses? do they count as "foes"?

[reef zodiac]

Yes

Obviously bosses are foes

[inner grove]

its obvious but still not that obvious

[reef zodiac]

It’s pretty obvious lmao

[narrow hemlock]

if someone is asking for clarification then it's not obvious to them. there's nothing wrong with double checking, no need for the tone.

[inner grove]

Beaten Heat 20 with three weapons, apparently I dont know much about this game anyway

[narrow hemlock]

8/ if anyone here has told you that, we don't encourage that kind of mindset and in fact goes against the first rule of our guidelines. be kind and understanding with your peers; everyone experiences the game differently and acting superior over how others play the game is not within the spirit of the kind of community we want to foster here

[modern garnet]

bosses not being foes sounds exactly like the kind of exception that might exist in a game like this

[split owl]

I love how Than is immune to your weapon when you're rush attacking to beat his challenge. lol

[lone kernel]

Can’t hurt, but won’t save you and you won’t really notice they’re there in my experience

If you get hit for 20 damage with bronze skin that’s 19 now, IMO not really worth it over another Athena boon. Even if we take the case of em4 heightened security pots, that 150 damage with bronze skin at 10 percent is 135…so suboptimal, but if you survive a run with 4 hp and bronze skin, then it was game changing

[steady geyser]

Bro. Erebus chamber with chariots and THREE butterfly orbs? These stupid rooms are impossible for melee

[chrome wharf]

Tart and Aspho Erebus get easier for melee with practice

[lone kernel]

Using meg in Erebus is not a waste of a meg

tho that’s rough

[chrome wharf]

Never even tried Elysium Erebus LOL though Rib might come in handy

I should do one tbh, need that last onion entry and I always quit out if I fail Tart

[lone kernel]

I wouldn’t haha

But if you like AP2 you’re probably better at hades than I am, go nuts

[chrome wharf]

I like it up to a certain heat then I relent and do AP1

[lone kernel]

My first ever Erebus was on a 32 heat attempt I went for in a yolo attempt to get the statue, got a Zeus legendary first room in asphodel so it motivated me to git gud

[chrome wharf]

it's selecter, not succeeder

[lone kernel]

Fair

[steady geyser]

Whew, beat 16 heat for the first time with the Excalibur dmg resistance style

I didn’t even have a cast or call boon lmao

I only had 14 boons 🤔

[lone kernel]

[strong ridge]

win style

[steady geyser]

Tried my first 32 run. Not fun. Died on the barge of death

[chrome junco]

I accidentally skipped dialogue.
Is there a way I can see what it was?

[narrow hemlock]

unfortunately there is not

do you recall what it was about?

[chrome junco]

It was the mid fight conversation with [REDACTED].

[narrow hemlock]

ah that doesn narrow it down much

[chrome junco]

As such, it feels important.

Yeah, I was panicking at the time. 😔

It was part of my third win?

Thank you for letting me know the situation.

[narrow hemlock]

i'm trying to look around, do you by chance remember any bits of the dialogue

[little dragon]

mid fight

like actually during the fight

no text box just audio talking

or before or after it

[chrome junco]

Oh, no, I mean between the phases.

There was extra dialogue before we continued.

[rapid forum]

was it your first time getting to next phase?

[chrome junco]

No, I'd won twice before.

[little dragon]

iirc those are never important

[chrome junco]

I'm in a very "why didn't you tell her" arc.

[little dragon]

its always something like "ive never imagined youd gotten so strong, if youre really determined to make it out, then i wont hold back either"

[chrome junco]

That's reassuring.

[lone kernel]

If it’s in fight talk, it’s usually just trash talk like “got you” “surely you could have avoided that” etc

(he does make me feel kinda bad when he says that, as he is usually right)

[little dragon]

you may be fast but all your dancing around will only get you so far

blast my cousins, youd never make it here without their interference

the important stuff is before and after

[pure karma]

Guys I am trying Aspect of Arthur, and I am either doing something wrong, or it doesn't have a dash attack? Or maybe it's the same as that first normal hit?

[rapid forum]

or some form of "I'm not done yet"

[little dragon]

its dash attack is the same as the normal sword pretty much

its small, and fast

not like the normal swings at all

[twin thistle]

both are stabs

[pure karma]

I can't do it

[twin thistle]

uh

[pure karma]

It always does the exact same attack as the first hit

[chrome junco]

Ah, the meetings in general are important to the story, so I was worried that would be too.

[pure karma]

exactly the same

[lone kernel]

If you play smash, you’re playing ganondorf now

[little dragon]

press the attack and dash button at the same time

[lone kernel]

Boomstick mentality

[twin thistle]

the dash attack and attack are pretty much the same

like we said

[pure karma]

OHHHHHHHHHHHH that worked

ok

it has a different timing than the other aspects

[little dragon]

that works for all the melee ones i think

the double click

[twin thistle]

yeah it should be about the same

[little dragon]

the bow timing is weird though

[twin thistle]

wdym

dash attack is just faster

[little dragon]

the dash strike of the bow has a much tighter window

its pretty hard to do it 10 times in a row

without it failing

[twin thistle]

i just have dash on a shoulder button so

[lone kernel]

Yep, Arthur is like driving a truck when you’re used to driving a reasonably priced four door sedan

It’s mad fun tho

[little dragon]

its pretty much the only sword i play

since normal is like finger cramp tier

[pure karma]

Damn this aspect is hard to play

[twin thistle]

could go poseidon then too

[pure karma]

I take so much damage

[twin thistle]

you mostly want to be dash striking as the combos are quite slow

[pure karma]

Having to press 2 button at the same time messes me up

[twin thistle]

but you can also dash between the combo hits

[pure karma]

I am used to dashing first

it's weird

[twin thistle]

is the timing really that tight

[pure karma]

feels that way to me

compared to otheraspects

[twin thistle]

also dash on left bumper is superior

[pure karma]

hm

let me try that

[little dragon]

dash strike is a nice opening / chip damage finisher

but you really shouldnt rely on it too much

if you want to play this aspect in the first place

its better to learn the position and timing you need to go unga bunga

and focus on hitting enemies with that 2nd and 3rd attack string 1 hit kill

getting them to walk into it

knowing your windows

[pure karma]

I am animation cancelling between strikes or smth

[twin thistle]

also dashing between combo hits

[pure karma]

no caps sorry

[little dragon]

good with splash dash

to keep them at a distance

while you go

[pure karma]

Like I start the attack animation out of danger and I dash

seems to be working

[lone kernel]

With Arthur you aren’t supposed to be zip zooming all over

You’re the badass knight with the giant claymore fighting off the hordes

[pure karma]

hehe I am gonna try charon

in tartarus

with 2 boons

[twin thistle]

uh

[rapid forum]

"Fear is for the weak"

[twin thistle]

sounds like a good idea

[pure karma]

ok I did it

Wonder if it's better to go with a crit Artemis build, or High base Aphro

[twin thistle]

well crit is a bit inconsistent

but better if you can get lots of other bonuses to attack

[rapid forum]

yep

[twin thistle]

aphro lets you get zeus call and smouldering air more easily

[pure karma]

I hate smouldering air

[lone kernel]

Smoldering is super based tho

[twin thistle]

but smouldering air zeus call

[lone kernel]

or

⭐

(mario kart context)

🏄‍♂️

You can also go Artemis special and aphro attack and hope for heart rend on Chiron

Or Zeus

Strongest dps I think is Zeus special w jolted but

[twin thistle]

just start with artemis special and get natural zeus or aphro and have both heart rend and smouldering air jokted zeus call

[pure karma]

Hey that Arthur aura slows projectiles

nice

[rapid forum]

it also disables traps

[pure karma]

welp

hades killed me

it has been awhile

[twin thistle]

tried arthur with fo2. result was a lot of getting hit in the face

[pure karma]

fo2?

I am using Aphrodite's keepsake and the first boon is Poseidon?

wtf

[twin thistle]

forced overtime 2

[void vigil]

If the first boon is poseidon even though you’re using a god keepsake, it’s a scripted event. You’ll still get the boon from the keepsake later

[dusky wedge]

Does Splitting Bolt has an internal cooldown? I don’t think so due to how it works, but I’m not sure though

[twin thistle]

dont think it has one

[dusky wedge]

Yeah, was just wondering, since it isn’t like Sea Storm

[pure karma]

Just found out that Supergiant does not do DLC. Except for that small Bastion one. I really wanted to see some DLC for hades.

[hollow wave]

Unlocked Lucifer and so far its fun

I absolutely LOVE the design

[pure karma]

Which weapon is that aspect?

[hollow wave]

Adamant Rail

[pure karma]

I dont have that and the bow

have no idea what I have to do

[hollow wave]

I believe just get Titan Blood but I might be wrong

Been a while since I unlocked all the weapons

[twin thistle]

#h1-story-discussion

pins

or ze google

[hollow wave]

Dangit

[pure karma]

aspects

the ??? aspects

[hollow wave]

Ah

Then yeah what Ananas said

Really glad Lucifer doesn't have that annoying health downside Guan Yu has

[twin thistle]

yeah its the only aspect like that

lucifer is kinda meh compared to eris and hestia tho imo

[hollow wave]

Also I saw the Beowulf aspect design

Why does it look like a book?

[modern garnet]

a book?

looks like a bunch of planks to me

[twin thistle]

more like a door

aka a tower shield

[rocky aurora]

whats better fated authority or fated persuasion

[raw herald]

Persuasion since you can force the gods in using keepsakes

[rocky aurora]

yeah that makes sense

[twin thistle]

even with authority, tryna target specific gods kinda doesnt work that well

[dusky wedge]

Unless if you’re trying to fish for all the Zeus boons!

[raw herald]

Yeah if you're going for a max health/gold/poms run or a "disciple of" run, then authority is better

[twin thistle]

it just be really niche in comparison to persuasion

[rocky aurora]

buying it only gives 1 yeah gotta buy it multiple times each time you want 1

[burnt breach]

@twin thistle It doesn't exactly have a cooldown but it works similarly

it has 2 charges which reload at a speed of 0.5s

[raw herald]

Huh, I thought it was 0.2s

[dusky wedge]

Ahh, I see

[pure karma]

Man Hades is big

How did... nvm

[rapid forum]

I mean, your body is bound to be big when your parents are the titans.

[chrome wharf]

Zag being small is prob a mix of being young and mom genes

[brisk trail]

how big is his penis

[pure karma]

So Zagreus is like, 1/4th mortal right?

[chrome wharf]

uh. SFW channel here

I actually know a irl family that has roughly those heights

[wise oasis]

In game I think so

[pure karma]

His mother though seems to be a full goddess

Not a demigod

[wise oasis]

She's a full goddess in normal greek mythology but SGG changed her and demeter's origins

I think she's a demi goddess in game to avoid incest

[chrome wharf]

Dad is 6 ft plus, mom is like a bit below 5 feet, son like 5 foot 5

[pure karma]

Is she? She looks like full god

[wise oasis]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/858744757936193542/889126277901074432/unknown.png

She being demeter

[pure karma]

Risking a ban here, but Gilgamesh is the best aspect in the whole game

[wise oasis]

In greek mythology you'd be right, her parents are Zeus and Demeter

[pure karma]

Yeah I know about her game origins. I am saying she looks too powerful to be a demigod

she is like a god

[wise oasis]

Doesnt change her having half mortal blood though

[pure karma]

Yeah it's weird

[wise oasis]

She does have a ton of authority though

[pure karma]

She should be like Hercules or Achilles

Unless it's because in the game Demeter is a real powerful Goddess

It is insinuated that not even Zeus could stop her or smth like that

[wise oasis]

The gods' ages do directly affect their power, (ie hestia being the weakest as she emerged last from Cronus) and the game has demeter being the eldest olympian

could have something to do with that

[pure karma]

True

Because Zagreus is more of a god than his mother

But he is young I guess

[rapid forum]

Have you tried beowulf?

[pure karma]

Yes

Worst aspect in the game for me

well tied with guan yu

[raw herald]

Ok

[rapid forum]

It's fun with charged flight

I call it flying door build

[pure karma]

Beowulf requires too much skill to play for me

its too complicated

[raw herald]

Fair enough, it does take a bit to get used to

[pure karma]

And Guan Yu I dunno

I think it's just bad, but I am not good enough yet to make a decision like that

[rapid forum]

Guan yu is a glass canon

[pure karma]

Thing is, glass canon means damage

[rapid forum]

I enjoy it from time to time

[raw herald]

Charged skewer

[pure karma]

I had more damage with Arthur and had more hp too

I haven't gotten the chance to use Guan Yu with charged skewer yet so

[reef zodiac]

Yeah it’s pretty bad imo. But it can be fun, especially with charged skewer or serrated point

But I mean it’s not that bad

I beat 42 heat with it

Without charged skewer

Although tbf I was kinda carried by smoldering air

[reef zodiac]

I’m about to get sub 15 minute dash only EM4

Actually nah because I want to do every tunnel

[reef zodiac]

?

[pure karma]

I tried posting a wtf gif

but I guess not

[reef zodiac]

What were you gonna say WTF to?

[pure karma]

sub 15 minutes dash only em4

[reef zodiac]

Oh lol

It’s not that crazy

Tbf it was just 12 heat

EM4 and Middle Management

[pure karma]

oh just 12 heat?

I can barely do 3 heat

[reef zodiac]

I mean 3 heat is kinda the same as 0 heat to be fair

[pure karma]

well

I pick bad ones

trying that one that gives armored enemies like

[reef zodiac]

Just do TD2 or TD1 MM or TD1 LC1 HL1

[mint coral]

HS and RI1 is not the same as 0

[pure karma]

effects

whatever its called

[reef zodiac]

Well ok if you pick the worst pacts in the game then sure

[mint coral]

[reef zodiac]

Benefits Package

[pure karma]

HS is considered bad?

you people get hit by traps?

[reef zodiac]

yes

Bruh

Taking 5 damage per tick in Lava is not worth a single heat. And also taking 150 damage to Hades pots

[mint coral]

Yeah hs is a trap lol

[reef zodiac]

HS is a pretty bad pact

[mint coral]

Fine during most of your run until suddenly is not fine

[pure karma]

which one is RL1

[reef zodiac]

5x trap damage for one heat is a bad deal

[reef zodiac]

Routine Inspection

[pure karma]

ah that was an I not an L\

[reef zodiac]

Don’t take RI ever

At least not below 45 heat

EM4 and RI are the hardest pacts in the game for sure

[brisk trail]

I made my tierlist but how do I get image perms?

[reef zodiac]

EM4 is fun at low heat though

[reef zodiac]

You don’t

[brisk trail]

😦

[burnt breach]

you upload it on imgur then post the link here

[burnt breach]

yoooooooooooooo they secretly updated the rail's sounds!!!
https://streamable.com/htcvz5

[raw herald]

iSnT tHiS jUsT hEsTiA

[devout terrace]

[devout ledge]

why isn't there an achievement for defeating hades with extreme measures or for getting the 3rd Skelly statue?

why only againts theseus and the 2nd statue?

[raw herald]

SGG probably want to make the achievements more accessible

[devout ledge]

you don't have to remove the existent ones

[raw herald]

I think only about 5% of steam owners have beat 16 heat, 32 heat is substantially more difficult than that

[devout ledge]

17% have not beaten tartarus

[void vigil]

Beating EM4 doesn’t have even any reward in game at all - only the music, but you only have to reach the fight in order to unlock it, not beat it

and I guess some dialogue

[devout terrace]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/835125168341778463.gif?v=1

[devout ledge]

beating any boss with EM has no ingame reward anyway

or any skelly statue

[void vigil]

Beating EM3 is a prophecy, which is why it’s an achievement

and skelly statues are rewards in themselves

[devout ledge]

well then, a beating EM4 prophecy can be made annyway

[void vigil]

anyway, here’s the dev comment about difficult achievements #ask-supergiant message

This is the reason the prophecies and achievements end at 16 heat and EM3, and bounties don’t go higher than 20

[devout ledge]

there only speaks 'bout heat

you can beat EM4 with just 10

[wise oasis]

em4 is harder than most other 10 heat pacts

[raw herald]

Yeah I think having an achievement that less than .5% of players will beat is pretty harsh

[void vigil]

Yes but it’s a really difficult 10 heat

And you need to unlock a good amount of content to even have access to EM4

[raw herald]

I think a lot of games with really hard achievements can be quite daunting

[wise oasis]

Id rather have achievements be reachable and then in game things such as the statues be daunting rather than having something like the pantheon of hallownest in hollow knight have barely anyone do it

You can set your own achievements too

[heady cypress]

Any tips for em3? Just fought asterius and I'm hella scared i have 2dd's and im using malphon

[raw herald]

Just stay away from Asterius when he spins

EM3 with malphon is really difficult

[heady cypress]

:(

And what exactly does theseus?

Does he wield 2 shields instead of a spear

[wise oasis]

🚙

[heady cypress]

?

[wise oasis]

🚙

car!

[heady cypress]

??

[burnt breach]

https://tenor.com/view/tuktuk-drift-slippery-road-gif-8756658

[heady cypress]

Just went into the bossroom

Uhm

[wise oasis]

car!!!

[heady cypress]

Oh no he has a mask now

[wise oasis]

you get it now right

[heady cypress]

Wait

Hold up-

[burnt breach]

[heady cypress]

No

I hate these things

[wise oasis]

[heady cypress]

Why does he have one

No STOP

[burnt breach]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/523774570394681344/871832336046624828/indexzagcry.gif

[signal aspen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/659820450297282585/889166641412313098/Screenshot_461.png

damn

[heady cypress]

Goes into menu and gives up the run to remove em3 and laugh at theseus while he gets his cheeks clapped for the 50th time

[burnt breach]

uh bro you have sb

[signal aspen]

i know

and im sad

[wise oasis]

Em3 makes Theseus easier imo but asterius harder. You can ignore Theseus and Target asterius for the most part

Just uh don't get hit by bombs

[reef zodiac]

Stubborn Befiance

[burnt breach]

exactly

[heady cypress]

Theseus calls me daddy now😎

Em3 first try no dd's used

[wise oasis]

Ey pog

[heady cypress]

I still lose dd's to the furies and learnie tho:(

[reef zodiac]

Just did 3 runs in a row where I couldn’t get a C1 cast even using 2 rerolls on AP1.

[reef zodiac]

Learnie? Like Lernie but he’s a teacher 👩‍🏫

[burnt breach]

worst I've seen is Euradysian

[reef zodiac]

Finally a chamber 1 cast boon

Only took 4 resets

[burnt breach]

speedrun modpack

[reef zodiac]

nintendo switch

[burnt breach]

omega oof

[high island]

Have you tried bribing Amir?

[reef zodiac]

No I have not

[signal aspen]

works every time

[reef zodiac]

Is that what you do

[heady cypress]

I have a super strong build

That makes me sad

Cuz im going to die anyway

[signal aspen]

yeah thats how i got my 50 heat zeus win

[reef zodiac]

[signal aspen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/659820450297282585/876850314995707945/Screenshot_398.png

its impossible to get this rng without bribing amir

but he didnt give me jolted

[raw herald]

Cursed

Explosive return tho

[reef zodiac]

I’m trying to do 50 heat Beowulf and I haven’t gotten out of Tartarus in over an hour

[raw herald]

What cast are you using? I'm guessing pash

[reef zodiac]

Yeah I tried trippy flare a few times as well, just so that EM4 could be possible

[high island]

Have you tried just doing it first try? That's what I did on 52 with Beowulf.

[reef zodiac]

I’m gonna just do something else

This isn’t fun

[high island]

Worked really well.

[reef zodiac]

Heat past 45 is just not fun for me

[raw herald]

You could also mom pom start

Not even kidding

[reef zodiac]

For even more resets?

Yeah why wouldn’t I want to do that since I’m distressed about reset RNG

[raw herald]

I'd rather have a level 4 phalanx flare than a level 1 passion flare

[high island]

Heretic.

[reef zodiac]

It won’t matter because neither of those will best EM4

(While piloted by me)

I’m just gonna do some casual runs

[raw herald]

I beat EM4 with level 2 flare, all it took was second wind, greater evasion and smoldering air

[reef zodiac]

What’s a funny build I should try? I did dash only today

[raw herald]

Drunken strike splash dash nemesis sword

[reef zodiac]

I basically did that like 6 times yesterday but at 40 heat

Died to Hades once

Didn’t always have splash dash but I had it a few times

[signal aspen]

bribe amir to get this

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/659820450297282585/880877897362063400/Screenshot_425.png

[high island]

Bride, huh?

[heady cypress]

How can I use my Meg companiom? Idek why I'm asking that now in the middle of fighting em4 daddy;-;

[raw herald]

This is actually the most busted high heat build I've seen

[signal aspen]

shut

[heady cypress]

Zag always says "not now"