h1-discussion

[mint coral]

And engulfing vortex cant be pommed

[lone kernel]

isnt there one that makes it last longer

[mint coral]

Engulfing vortex sucks the enemies in and last longer yeah (0.4 extra secs at epic)

[lone kernel]

yeah thats not game changing

it is super based on blizzard shot tho

[pure karma]

What is the absolute most crit chance you can get. Assuming you get literally everything highest rarity and level.

[rain relic]

do the Zagreus aspects count for unlocking the legendary aspects? because i maxed out the Zag aspect on Stygian and Nyx hasn't given me the unlock phrase yet

[raw herald]

100%

But you'd need like a level 25 epic pressure points, deadly flourish and vicious skewer

[pure karma]

Guys this is insane

[wise oasis]

deadly reversal makes that much easier

[pure karma]

trying to get hunting blades duo

[wise oasis]

but it wont be 100% uptime

[pure karma]

I have all the artemis and ares boons needed

but I have some other boons too

and I have gotten two other duo boons

random

wtf

oh gof

[lone kernel]

yep, that's hades for ya

[mint coral]

Yup it counts
You revealed hidden spear already right?

[pure karma]

Hey lighting rod is actually good

lol

[lone kernel]

is it?

[mint coral]

Lightning rod is fun

[lone kernel]

i almost always sell it lol

[pure karma]

I mean

I dunno man it clears screens

[rain relic]

yep, Nyx is just being uncooperative or gets occupied by someone else in the House every time i see her

[mint coral]

Pray for better rng then

[wise oasis]

It's a fun one and has deceptively huge range but among duos Id say its not that great

[mint coral]

Nothing else you can do

[raw herald]

Lightning rod is pretty fun

But on Beowulf/Hera it's

Because it makes it harder to pick up your casts

[pure karma]

If you dont approach the friendly shade in Elysium every time we cant be friends

[fathom moth]

wasnt about to let you down my good shade

[pure karma]

I will only tolerate it if you are speedrunning

[mint coral]

If you are speedrunning in game time you still can say hi to the shade

[wise oasis]

THere is rarely an excuse

In game time pauses after heroes die

[candid obsidian]

If your going for rta

[wise oasis]

forgiven timeloss

Just finish the fight in the bottom left corner so you can run past the shade on your way to the door

[celest shell]

I always say hi to my biggest fan

I even got a pin of them on Etsy

https://www.etsy.com/listing/1015862865/good-shade-pin-hades-pin-hades-game-fan?ref=yr_purchases

[wise oasis]

hell yeah

[olive goblet]

Who is tingus pingus

[craggy pumice]

I have blizzard shot atm, what happens if I replace posideon cast with arty cast?

[rain relic]

you'd have a better cast because Atermis' cast is kinda underrated imo

[craggy pumice]

Will I still have blizzard shot effects?

[rain relic]

probably not

unless you got the blizzard effects from Demeter then you'll lose out on any benefits from Poseidon's cast

[brisk trail]

Can we talk about how absolutely stupid good Aspect of Zeus is for low heat?

[lone kernel]

Sure

Aspect of zeus is super based

[brisk trail]

I've won 7 games total, all of them in a row, because of aspect of zeus

[lone kernel]

hell yeah

[brisk trail]

All you need is explosive return, and the willingness to mindlessly throw, attack, catch, and repeat while sitting still and tanking enemies

[reef zodiac]

Low heat, high heat, it’s always good

It’s in fact the world record holder for unseeded high heat (and seeded high heat)

[robust crow]

It is very good, I used it a bunch while trying to unlock the hidden aspect for the shield

[brisk trail]

I saw a tier list rank it A instead of S, and I gotta say, For making my 30th-37th runs ever all wins, ranging from heat 0-6, absolute S

Utterly chad with Zeus's Special boon, or even Poseidon's for raw dps

Ngl I think it needs a nerf if it's carrying me through bosses I haven't learned patterns for and just sit there and outdps

Consistently

[reef zodiac]

It definitely doesn’t need a nerf

It’s a super high skill aspect to use extremely well

[reef zodiac]

Zeus special is better than Poseidon for raw DPS

[brisk trail]

I'm tempted to try EM 4 just to see if it can carry me through it

I think it can

[high island]

You don't really need to learn enemy behavior that well beyond some basics until high heats.

[reef zodiac]

If you’re finding Zeus to be extremely good DPS even against bosses, that’s a good sign because I have trouble mastering the aspect and bosses often feel kinda slow for me. That’s of course only because I’m not too experienced with the aspect

I think Zeus is the aspect that requires the most skill to use

Personally

[brisk trail]

I have to severely disagree. For me it's just been a simple

Remap control so Attack is Lclick and special is Rclick, and alternate between the 2 with no regards for anything else

[reef zodiac]

Oh

So you’re spamming

Yeah I mean that’s possible with any aspect

But if you try to beat a high heat with Zeus, it’s gonna be pretty hard if you don’t have practice with the aspect imo

Compared to something like Eris

Where you just pick up the best DPS boons and just melt everything

[brisk trail]

Spamming shouldn't work THIS well

[reef zodiac]

Spamming with shield doesn’t usually work in my experience

But I guess at 0 heat anything can work

Are you using bull rush?

[brisk trail]

it's 6 heat rn and doing the same as it has for 0-5

I use it for movement, that's about it

[reef zodiac]

Yeah 0 heat is almost the same as 10 heat tbh

[reef zodiac]

Bull rush is incredible

[brisk trail]

I'm trying every heat

[reef zodiac]

It’s great damage and blocks

[brisk trail]

Blocking is temporary. DPS is forever

Do not look at Bull rush, my explosive return shall guide you.

[reef zodiac]

Mmmm

No

Bull rush

ER Zeus is pretty good though

But definitely you should use bull rush

[robust crow]

Bull rush with the 500% damage hammer is so good

[reef zodiac]

What’s the hammer called? Minotaur rush?

[robust crow]

Something like that

[reef zodiac]

I haven’t done a lot of practice with Minotaur Rush

I prefer charged shot and sudden rush

[robust crow]

Charged shot with Minotaur rush is really good for me

[brisk trail]

I like focusing on a specific run type, rn I'm super into special and attack heavy, but I wanna try a cast heavy Hera's Bow run for fun

What's the name of the hammer that gives you 2 hits per attack but no knockback?

[robust crow]

Not sure but that’s a good one

[reef zodiac]

Pulverizing blow I think

[brisk trail]

Because that+explosive return+poseidon's attack boon+ zeus's special boon is just mindless slaughter of poor shades

[reef zodiac]

That hammer is meh imo

Because neutral attack on shield isn’t amazing so I usually don’t use it

But when I do, it’s to knock foes away

Tbh spamming charged shot is good enough to beat 40 heat. Three times

[brisk trail]

It doubles your attack dps, and when you're sitting still and tanking boss hits just to swing at them with explosive return and attacks, it grates their health bars

[reef zodiac]

Well it only doubles your DPS if you’re only using neutral attack

Which is not the highest DPS way to play the weapon

Therefore it’s not doubling your DPS

[brisk trail]

It is the silliest however

and I sit still and bash on bosses, so it works for me

[reef zodiac]

Yeah anything works at low heat

Do what you find fun

[rain relic]

oh my god finally

Nyx is finally giving me the unlock phrase for Aspect of Arthur

only took about 6 full runs

[brisk trail]

I'm less than 40 runs in and have Guan yu unlocked, is that normal?

[rain relic]

i mean, you can unlock it as soon as you can use Titan Blood, so yeah, it's perfectly normal

AND I GOT THE MEG FAVOUR

FINALLY

[brisk trail]

Oh I hoarded titan's blood

Explains why it took so long

[rain relic]

just remember not to put any of the blood into Zagreus aspects if you're planning on unlocking Guan Yu

[reef zodiac]

Or if you want to put it to good use

[rain relic]

hey, Zagreus Exagryph is super useful

[reef zodiac]

Well

Only with spread fire

Without spread fire it sucks

The extra ammo doesn’t do much

And compared to Eris and Hestia it’s a joke

[brisk trail]

I dumped 5 into zag for skelly's favor

[reef zodiac]

Fair

If you plan to max every aspect out eventually then it doesn’t really matter

[rain relic]

so what does Hallowed Ground when i'm using Aspect of Arthur?

[high island]

Even Zag Rail without Spread Fire is still Exagryph.

Exagryph hardly sucks.

[reef zodiac]

You could start by reading the description

[reef zodiac]

That is true, Zag rail is kinda bad compared to Eris and Hestia

[high island]

Damage reduction, slows down enemies and enemy projectiles, lets you walk on magma, disables most traps.

[brisk trail]

So which satyr tunnel should I go for homies? 1-5 let chat decide how long this takes

[rain relic]

sweet

[rain relic]

3

[reef zodiac]

Boss chambers first, they’re faster and have better rewards

[brisk trail]

I see on vote for 3

one*

[high island]

It's never gonna be the first one you take anyway because that's impossible. And the chance for the sack is rolled after you enter the tunnel, technically.

I vote if there is one.

[brisk trail]

well aphro happened to be number 3

[rain relic]

holy hell the swings with Arthur are so damn MEATY

[high island]

Hell indeed.

[brisk trail]

Bro these satyrs about to take the full force of my shield's cute lil frisbee

[rain relic]

full disclosure, i have never really been a big fan of Aegis

[brisk trail]

Full disclosure, Aegis loves you, evin if you don't love it

even*

[rain relic]

i'm glad it's feelings aren't hurt but oh gods it makes me fall asleep

[reef zodiac]

How?

Maybe you’re playing it wrong

[rain relic]

Shield's bore me

[reef zodiac]

Are you using bull rush?

[rain relic]

i want to punch, shoot, blow up or stab things, not hide behind a giant frisbee

[brisk trail]

Exagryph is the only other weapon I've gotten close to being able to have this sheer amount of stupid fun with.

Simply because of the rocket volley hammer, and you can technically center it on yourself for 5 rockets just bombarding your face, and your enemies

A little annoying against louts, but other than that, works great from Asphodel on

[rain relic]

Exagryph, regardless of build, is my favourite weapon overall

[reef zodiac]

https://youtu.be/W1turFVZdag

Does that look boring?

[rain relic]

not nearly enough explosions or face's getting punched so yeah tbh

[signal aspen]

Bruh

[reef zodiac]

There’s actually a ton of explosions

[signal aspen]

Yeah there are a lot of explosions

[reef zodiac]

Every bull rush is an explosion pretty much

[rain relic]

there isn't enough

if the full screen isn't a nuclear explosion PNG at all times then i'm not interested

[reef zodiac]

You’re lame

[chrome wharf]

put on some tight deadline and jury summons so you can't turtle forever

[reef zodiac]

What aspect does that?? Not even cluster rocket does that

[rain relic]

it does if you spam the ever living hell out of it

[signal aspen]

Hazard bomb

[rain relic]

this also

[reef zodiac]

Well Beowulf is literally the fastest aspect in the game so…

[split owl]

I've completely maxed out the mirror - Is ranking up in Hades' cambers worth the steep cost of it?

[chrome wharf]

it's just a little cosmetic

[reef zodiac]

Inb4 a mod tells you not to evade the swear filter

[lone kernel]

Once you get all the companions and such

And have nothing better to do but still wanna play hades

[split owl]

I only have Megs companion atm. I wanna get Thans but he never appears. lol

[brisk trail]

bloody hell

Hades absolutely destroyed me

I didn't even get half of his health down

much less his second phase

[reef zodiac]

And honestly, Beowulf has more explosions than rail ever could. Did you actually watch the video?

[rain relic]

no because Shield runs bore me on principle

[reef zodiac]

Bro

You’re so lame

[split owl]

I have 21 clears out of 100 runs. You'll get there. It took me 21 runs to clear it the first time.

[rain relic]

well excuse me for not liking oversized frisbees

[reef zodiac]

Beowulf is literally the fastest aspect in the game. They beat the entire game in under 3 minutes IGT. How is that BORING??

[reef zodiac]

How is that an argument?

[rain relic]

it isn't one, it's just my opinion

not everyone likes the same weapons you know

[split owl]

^ Like I hate playing with the bow. I can't even make it past Lernie with the bow, because it's harder to dash strike with it.

[reef zodiac]

“Well excuse me for not linking a long stick with a point at the end”
“Well excuse me for not liking a sharp piece of metal”
“Well excuse me for not liking a pair of gloves”

[rain relic]

not sure why you feel the need to mock my opinion but ok

[reef zodiac]

??

[rain relic]

we get it, you have a addiction to the shield, no need to rub it in our faces

[reef zodiac]

Your “opinion” was literally mocking the weapon

[reef zodiac]

I don’t have “an addiction”. It’s literally my least used weapon

[rain relic]

calling the giant throwable shield a oversized frisbee isn't so much mocking it as describing it in a comedic sense

[reef zodiac]

Then my reply isn’t so much mocking as it is creating a comedic rebuttal

[brisk trail]

Alright boys, we get it, some people don't like the stick with the string, the frisby, pew pew tubes, the sharp pointy, long pointy, or the rockem-boppem-gloves

[rain relic]

thank you

[split owl]

bangs my head against the wall to see if Flame Wheels Release falls out, cuz that might be the only way I get the bloody thing.

[pure karma]

Damn, ||Charon ||is hard.

[reef zodiac]

Yes

[pure karma]

Ruined a perfectly good run...

[split owl]

You don't have to use spoiler tags for this channel, you know. LOL

[rain relic]

i mean, he's the game's superboss, can't exactly expect him to be easy

[brisk trail]

I've beaten him 2 out of 2 so far

[pure karma]

He is a superboss?

[brisk trail]

Shields make it cake

[rain relic]

he's considered one

[brisk trail]

because catch frisbee go boom

[pure karma]

I mean I almost killed him

first time

I died cause I entered with low hp

[reef zodiac]

I mean he’s probably harder than Hades. Idk what a superboss is but yeah he’s hard

[rain relic]

he's not exactly Lingering Will or Abs Rad levels of difficult but he's up there

[pure karma]

Wasn't even prepared, I just saw some coins and took them. He took it real hard

[reef zodiac]

[split owl]

slips some coins to the devs to give me Flame Wheels Release in my next run. LOL

[rain relic]

still haven't beaten it in Pantheon of Hallownest btw

[split owl]

100 bloody runs. Flame Wheels Release hasn't shown up ONCE. Not even with a reroll.

[pure karma]

I am gonna go tell Nyx to keep her son in check.

[reef zodiac]

Spending gold to get rid of the easiest enemy that you can kill just by dashing through barriers

[rain relic]

which one? she has a few of those

[split owl]

I don't care about them. I want the prophecy.

[reef zodiac]

Ohhh

Yeah fair

Very fair

[split owl]

I just let them explode into me, tbh. My health is usually at around 200+ by that point, so a little health loss doesn't hurt.

[pure karma]

Well, there is the sleepy one, he is useless. The hot one, will deal with him later, and monster one that killed me.

[rain relic]

Lenny isn't Nyx's offspring

[signal aspen]

Sleepy one gives great advice

[pure karma]

Lenny?

[rain relic]

The Hydra

[pure karma]

what

[signal aspen]

Lernie

Zag gives it a nickname

[pure karma]

who talked about the hydra

I know the nickname

anyway how are is that coin steal event

I wanna try that fight ASAP

[rain relic]

you said "monster one that killed me" so...ohhhh

bruh why would you call Charon a monster

[pure karma]

Monster in the sense he is hella strong

like a beast

[rain relic]

oh yeah, that makes more sense

[pure karma]

very cool fight

[rain relic]

yeah, if only he would ACTUALLY LET ME FIGHT HIM

[pure karma]

so it's that rare?

After 70smth runs it happened for the first time

[rain relic]

it is for me, me and him are 1 for 1 on wins right now and he hasn't let me fight him since

[pure karma]

"Git gud" "Just dodge" "Just don't get hit" "Try not dying"

[split owl]

Hypnos is great. Get rekt.

[reef zodiac]

That’s great advice

[signal aspen]

Good advice

[reef zodiac]

[pure karma]

He tried that with megaera

He told her to dodge my attacks

I literally died to her next run

the irony

[split owl]

Man, the only time I've died to Meg since I made it to Hades the first time and beat him, was when I had my heat set to pretty much max just to mess around.

[jade zenith]

I like how he tells me not to stand on the spike traps after intentionally throwing a run because I got a bad hammer

[pure karma]

Aside from that death I haven't died to a fury in ages

Or hydra

[rain relic]

there are people that told me to "just dodge" unironically when i complained about a boss that can oneshot you was unfair, i told them "try dodging my fist"

got them to shut up pretty quickly

[split owl]

"Maybe you shouldn't go swimming in lava."

[pure karma]

Which boss can one-shot you?

[split owl]

He said something akin to that when I suicided because I got the prophecy I wanted.

[rain relic]

something in a completely different game

[pure karma]

oh

[reef zodiac]

did you threaten them or something?

[pure karma]

Nameless King Dark Souls 3?

[jade zenith]

well hades can one shot you if you somehow avoid all health pickups

but yeah, getting one shot is dumb

[rain relic]

i have a tendency to threaten people that repeatedly give me unhelpful or outright moronic advice

[reef zodiac]

Pfft even at SL1, NK doesn’t one-shot

Midir might though

[thorny mirage]

I mean yes, he did literally say “try dodging my fist”

[split owl]

I threw the sega genesis preloaded I bought in the trash because literally every single game was enemies that one-hit-kill you.

[reef zodiac]

Good to see you here Joker

[pure karma]

@rain relic You really won't like Path of Exile lol

[thorny mirage]

gamin

[rain relic]

Devourer of Gods on Death Mode, Calamity mod for Terraria, god i hate that fight

[split owl]

I might be sick in the head. I downloaded Fallout 76 just because Game Pass Ultimate perks this month include a 1 month free for Fallout 1st.

[rain relic]

i don't play Dark Souls on account of liking to have fun and not break all of my stuff

i know that's ironic considering i've done everything there is to do in Hollow Knight aside from Pantheon of Hallownest, but my point still stands

[split owl]

I am feeling that way about Mafia 3 right now. I can't kill the boss of the garbage dump, so I ended up temporarily uninstalling before I threw something.

[rain relic]

isn't Mafia 3 notoriously bad or am i thinking of a different game?

[narrow hemlock]

hey friends let's take discussion about other games to #video-games and get back to hades please

[split owl]

According to critics, it's bad. I tend to ignore critics and play games for myself. I like it, but there are fans of the series who think it's the worse in the series.

[pure karma]

Is it possible to actually build a revenge setup and do smth with it

[rain relic]

i think so but it's probably not worth it

[brisk trail]

dodge my frisbee

[signal aspen]

Yes

[split owl]

Haelian did a Revenge run on his Youtube Channel where he picked all the boons that had revenge and then AFKed on Hades and had him kill himself.

[rain relic]

try dodging the 50 or so explosives i shoved down your throat

[pure karma]

so vengeful mood?

[brisk trail]

I'm used to explosives, explosive return has trained me for this

[rain relic]

what if those explosives were Holy Hand Grenades?

[brisk trail]

Did you count to 3? I think not

[rain relic]

are you not aware i stopped time, pulled the pin on all of them, then shoved them down your throat, then ran away?

[brisk trail]

Requires you to count to 3

[rain relic]

the laws of time don't apply to me

[reef zodiac]

It’s probably the hardest duo to build around in the game, since it requires so many boons. But it can work as a meme run

[pure karma]

say no more

[brisk trail]

Frisbee, get countered

[rain relic]

Doom guy's shotgun, get countered

[reef zodiac]

What in the world is going on

[signal aspen]

idk, get countered

[narrow hemlock]

@brisk trail@rain relic can you two please either take this to dm's or leave it in #off-topic-discussion

[rain relic]

this tends to happen whenever i join a discord server, happens all the time

[rain relic]

ok

[reef zodiac]

Well I don’t like it

[rain relic]

does the upgrade that lets you get gems from boss kills also apply to hades?

[split owl]

Yes.

[signal aspen]

yes

[rain relic]

neat

[split owl]

I just got the last Aspect I needed, so now I have access to all 5 hidden aspects - Now I just need to make it to the surface with the spears hidden aspect - That's the hardest because your health starts so low.

[reef zodiac]

Yeah Guan Yu is really bad

[rain relic]

spam the charge attack

[reef zodiac]

Build around the special for sure

[thorny mirage]

it’s actually not bad

just the stupidest one to deal with

[reef zodiac]

I did 40 heat with it, but damn it took a lot of things to go well

[split owl]

I dash strike more then anything - Maybe I should start figuring out a new strategy lol

[thorny mirage]

Genuinely was such a pain to do at first because 70% is ridiculous

[thorny mirage]

the charged attack has life drain properties

[reef zodiac]

Special -> dash-strike -> dash-strike is a good combo

[thorny mirage]

and the special is just good

[reef zodiac]

It’s super slow though

[signal aspen]

i also did 40 heat with it i think

[reef zodiac]

It’s alright, but with Charged skewer yeah it’s quite good. Although imo still just worse than Exploding Launcher on Zag spear

[split owl]

I only did max heat once to mess around, but I'm mostly focusing on doing heat in order, so right now I think the max I am at is 6 on something.

[rain relic]

i'm still on about heat 4 with most of the weapons

except Aegis, that one i'm still on heat 0 with

[reef zodiac]

I maxed out my bounties ages ago

[thorny mirage]

I stopped playing hades when my joycons started drifting

[onyx moon]

whats a good aspect to build up next? I've maxxed out nemisis, achilles, chaos/beowulf, chiron, demeter, and +75% dmg rail one (eris)

[reef zodiac]

Oh that’s a huge L

Try pro controllers. Those work a lot better in my experience

[rain relic]

Joycon drift is aids

[split owl]

I just finished maxing out the mirror things I actually want to use, so now I'm just gathering darkness so I can buy that thing for Nyx/Chaos when I unlock it and then possibly rank up if I feel up to it.

[thorny mirage]

maybe try poseidon? or nemesis

I just read rhat you already maxed nemesis

[reef zodiac]

Eris

[thorny mirage]

You could max out all the zag aspects just because those are the easiest to

[reef zodiac]

But they don’t give you much for it

[onyx moon]

I maxxed out zag sword for the || kill skelly || quest and it seems really bad lmao

[reef zodiac]

I’d say max Hestia or Zeus

[onyx moon]

ic

[reef zodiac]

The Zag aspects are not very good, yeah

[onyx moon]

zag bow was decent enough to get my first clear with though ig

[rain relic]

with the exception of Exagryph, and even then there's better choices

[thorny mirage]

max poseidon

[reef zodiac]

Zag rail is still bad compared to the other rails

It’s the same thing with Zag bow

[thorny mirage]

not as bad though

[onyx moon]

eris rails seems really broken lmao

[reef zodiac]

Although Zag bow is probably better than Hera at higher heats

[reef zodiac]

It honestly kinda is. It’s super good

Easily a top 5 aspect

[rain relic]

the Zag aspects are just there for people who want to play it safe and don't want to mess around with gimmicks

[reef zodiac]

But yeah Zag bow is honestly fine

[rain relic]

eh, i prefer the aspect that makes the Q home in on targets

[onyx moon]

chiron is fun because i dont have to aim

kek

[reef zodiac]

Chiron?

[reef zodiac]

Still have to aim your attacks

[rain relic]

precisely

[reef zodiac]

Yeah I used Chiron for my first clear

It’s pretty good

Very easy

[onyx moon]

or rather chiron bow lets you be really far spaced from enemies

[reef zodiac]

Also yes

[onyx moon]

which goes to show how dogwater the distance shot hammer is because even on chiron bow it doesn't make a big difference imo

[thorny mirage]

distance shot hammer would be better if it gave some sort of indication when it was active

[signal aspen]

it does

[onyx moon]

it does

theres like an arrow thing near the end thats where it activates

[signal aspen]

but its like 50 feet away from zag

[reef zodiac]

Yeah sniper shot is so bad because it’s such a tiny area and it’s so far away

[rain relic]

damn, almost like snipers in every single thing they appear in, including real life

[reef zodiac]

I don’t get it

Snipers are really bad?

[rain relic]

they are if you can't aim

[reef zodiac]

[rain relic]

and even if you can aim with them, they're boring to use

like yeah it's satisfying to watch someone's head get reduced to a red mist but aside from that, they're just kinda lame

[reef zodiac]

You love calling things boring

[onyx moon]

are you talking about in video games lmao?

or irl

[rain relic]

give me a shotgun or sword and watch my mood change quite substantially

[rain relic]

both

[onyx moon]

bruh

[last veldt]

Chiron with Poseidon attack means you can keep things at range for a good butterfly run

[onyx moon]

literally 0% chance you've seen someone's head "get reduced to a red mist"

being a sniper in airsoft is fun though

[reef zodiac]

Ok I hate everything you just said there. It’s true, but why would you want either of those things

[rain relic]

i have in several video games, but i don't have the stomach to see it irl

[onyx moon]

For chiron i either run poseidon special and go for sea storm or do a dionysus build

[rain relic]

because Butterfly's kinda neat 🙂

[reef zodiac]

As in fun for you?

[onyx moon]

Butterfly is the most broken trinket because it makes you play better 🙂

[last veldt]

The trophy for getting over 30% on butterfly

[reef zodiac]

Ah. I’d suggest Hestia

[onyx moon]

I did it with chiron

[reef zodiac]

Let’s you keep an insane range from everything

[rain relic]

alternatively, any form of Exagryph helps

[last veldt]

Too late, already got 38%

[reef zodiac]

Ooh no, the others are quite unsafe

[signal aspen]

it doesnt matter which weapon you take, just dont get hit

[reef zodiac]

True

[onyx moon]

I did it on sword Kapp

[reef zodiac]

But Hestia is probably the easiest

[last veldt]

I've never got used to Hestia

[reef zodiac]

Oh wow that actually sounds hard

[thorny mirage]

use fists

[rain relic]

Gloves are harder

[reef zodiac]

Maybe

[last veldt]

Need to be able to bind controller inputs together for load and fire

[onyx moon]

gloves with athena on attack would be a bit easier no?

[reef zodiac]

Idk the stun-lock potential of fists is definitely helpful

[rain relic]

armour and bosses go brrrr

[reef zodiac]

[thorny mirage]

I mean for a no hit run

[reef zodiac]

Yeah

[thorny mirage]

and no athena

[reef zodiac]

Potentially easier than sword

[thorny mirage]

didn’t haelian recently complete a no hit run

[reef zodiac]

Still harder than the other 4

[rain relic]

if someone does a full hitless run without Athena and with the fists i will tip my hat to them

[reef zodiac]

No hit EM4, yeah

[thorny mirage]

they did

Not fists

[rain relic]

excuse me while i get my hat

[reef zodiac]

It was Hestia

[rain relic]

nvm

[reef zodiac]

It was sick

[rain relic]

the hat stays on for now, but it's still very impressive

[reef zodiac]

Great video

EM4 makes up for not being fists imo

[rain relic]

true, EM4's no joke

[reef zodiac]

Also there was no Athena

No invincible calls

No Acorn

[signal aspen]

no dodge chance

[reef zodiac]

Also that, yes

[pure karma]

Hades: "If I could take a minute of your time."
Timer: 45 seconds
bruh

[signal aspen]

go fast

[reef zodiac]

Hypnos: You’ve died 500 times! I can’t even think of a number higher than that!
Zag: 600?
Hypnos: HUH??

That’s my favorite interaction I’ve ever seen in this game

[heady cypress]

I think I reached the end

[last veldt]

That's a good one.

[heady cypress]

At least I reached the credits

Boutta cry

[split owl]

That is nowhere near the end. There's still tons to do "post-game", including getting the Epilogue.

[heady cypress]

It's the end for now lol

Just let me enjoy my achievement

[modern garnet]

You won! Mom's home

[heady cypress]

Yay:3

Bruh why does zag not know how to get in

[modern garnet]

He's never had to before

[pure karma]

I am so so sad

Found all revenge boons

but not the duo

SO SAD

[soft echo]

#newpfp

[brisk trail]

Hades updated on the ps5 and i was wondering if anyone knew if was any thing important

[lone kernel]

Couple minor bug fixes, game should crash less now. Nothing gameplay wise changes

Wait that’s Xbox

Idk but probably nothing

[brisk trail]

Ok thanks

[lone kernel]

The ps5 itself tho…that update is super based

3d audio

[vernal obsidian]

Will they do a major year 1 update ?

[high island]

There's been no announcement or indication of anything like that.

[vernal obsidian]

Will wait to see

[thick cypress]

Btw, speaking of merchandise/updates

https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2021/08/hades_is_getting_its_very_own_power-a_switch_controller

this was reported last month

[placid trail]

Zagreus nendoroid, too

[thick cypress]

but the listing has since been removed

and no news of it yet, according to the article it was supposed to release today for the anniversary, but there has been no news of it after it appeared on amazon and was then removed

and the controller obviously didn't release jlksdjfl

[high island]

When there's nothing in #hades-patch-notes, it's just bug fixes.

[thick cypress]

i figure nobody else knows much else about this

if it was someone on amazon messing up and putting a photoshopped image up for listing or maybe it wasn't meant to go up yet? idk

[pure karma]

If I roll boons with Fated Authority, can Duos appear?

[signal aspen]

no because authority changes room rewards

[pure karma]

ok the other one

[signal aspen]

if you reroll a boon with persuasion then yeah

[pure karma]

whatever its called

the green one

yeah ok

ty

[signal aspen]

np

[split owl]

As long as you have the prereqs, it can reroll into Duos or Legendaries.

Also... 101 runs later, I /finally/ got Flame Wheels Release for the prophecy. Stupid RNG.

[lost ermine]

Is there a doc somewhere that has the base health and attack damage for all the enemies

[signal aspen]

Wiki probably has that

[lost ermine]

Wiki is missing a bunch 😦

[high island]

There is one. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1M8uSUx4vW6TZHHb8z7SbGL4uWxcME7aB3LAIikfpmoM/edit#gid=0

[lost ermine]

Thanks

[maiden bane]

Anyone know the best attack loop for fists? I wait for the 5-hit combo to finish then dash-upper

And repeat

[raw herald]

It depends on the enemy

Some enemies die to specific combinations of dash strikes, strikes and dash uppers

But I usually just punch em till they die

[reef zodiac]

Definitely throw in some dash-strikes for extra DPS

[mint coral]

just had 2 pots overlap during the hades fight

free 60 damage lol

[twin thistle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/725021639506526249/888574900858662943/20210917_165902.png

[split owl]

What is that 1/335? Are there literally 335 different ranks you can buy?

[mint coral]

Is their hp

[twin thistle]

thats my health

[manic bobcat]

yes.

[vapid phoenix]

Best god for Chiron bow?

[reef zodiac]

Artemis imo

Go for heart rend

Divine dash is good as always

[vapid phoenix]

Ah ok

I just kinda forget since the day I said I got relentless volley on Chiron bow

You’re very helpful

[reef zodiac]

Crits are good

[vapid phoenix]

Why yes

Running zag bow rn though for my 10th clear (I think it’s 10 anyway)

Got Artemis attack and twin shot first two chambers

[reef zodiac]

That’s what you like to see

[vapid phoenix]

I got point blank or explosive to choose from

[high island]

Point-Blank.

[reef zodiac]

Point Blank

[high island]

Easy pick.

[reef zodiac]

Yeah

[high island]

Although Twin Explosive crits can be a lot of fun.

[vapid phoenix]

B-but meme hammer

[reef zodiac]

On Chiron it’s not gonna do much, but Explosive is a detriment so definitely Point Blank

[vapid phoenix]

I’m running zag

[reef zodiac]

Oh

Point Blank

[vapid phoenix]

I hope I get flurry shot then

[reef zodiac]

Why

[vapid phoenix]

I like flurry shot + point blank + twin shot

Makes things melt

[reef zodiac]

Oh yeah I guess

I don’t know the math behind flurry still

I don’t know if it’s a DPS increase

[vapid phoenix]

Oh god I can rob Charon

[reef zodiac]

And by how much

[split owl]

If only it were that easy.

[reef zodiac]

[vapid phoenix]

I can get triple shot

[steady geyser]

People refer to Chaos as "they", but Chaos says "I" and not "we"

???

[vapid phoenix]

Not they as in Venom

They as in genderless

[split owl]

They/Them as in neutral pronouns because Chaos has no gender.

[steady geyser]

[agile torrent]

cause chaos is one being

and also they can be a singular pronoun

[granite ether]

Fun fact: they/them have been used as singular pronouns since at least 1375 ^_^

[neat stag]

Just got an update for Hades on the PS5. Can’t find any notes about it. Do we know what got changed?

[reef zodiac]

Indeed! I was actually learning about this because those annoying prep school people who insist that it’s just not proper English

So I did some research

[granite ether]

If there's no notes, it most probably bug fixes

[narrow hemlock]

skimming through twitter, an audio fix should be among that, but i cant find anything else. so miscellaneous sort of fixes

[oblique pebble]

Did something change? Everywhere online I read that 10 winning runs is what’s required to unlock Hades’ locked heart, but I just beat the game an eleventh time, and still no dice back in the underworld (there was a talk prompt, but no nectar prompt…and when I look at his codex page, his heart is still locked)

[manic bobcat]

10 runs to get to the ending. Unlocking Hades' heart requires a few more so you can gift him.

[oblique pebble]

Ah ok, understood. Thanks

[manic bobcat]

yeah, you can honestly speed it up by suiciding

so you get the gift prompt over and over again, but up to you.

[oblique pebble]

Oh, really? Maybe I will

“Give up” doesn’t do that though, right?

Like I have to actually suicide?

[high island]

Give Up resets your save to the courtyard before you started your run.

[manic bobcat]

yeah, you need to actually die

[high island]

So no.

[oblique pebble]

Roger. Thanks

[high island]

Who's Roger?

[manic bobcat]

roger roger

[lone kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/roger-roger-roger-roger-that-copy-that-robots-gif-5912820

[tall lotus]

@granite ether "Fun fact: they/them have been used as singular pronouns since at least 1375 ^_^" that what think this time for some while, but it seeing in game for that too? It say so in lore maybe but i not read much greeken lore too much, how it say so for hadees that too?

[heavy wigeon]

yeah i didnt grow up in 1275 so idk what was normal back then

🤷‍♂️

[brave portal]

It was used to name someone you didn't knew or didn't want to specify it's gender

To refer as someone as only an individual basically

[manic bobcat]

Do people really not see the gender neutral "they" before?
And I'm not even talking about preferred pronouns.

[brave portal]

Apparently not

[acoustic plank]

Literally any time you refer to someone who's gender is unknown or unspecified

Although I have seen "he" used as a placeholder more often than I'd like

[narrow hemlock]

well. hades is a modern adaptation. guns were not a part of ancient greece or mythology, but yet zag has a gun.

[dense abyss]

and the gyros have fries with them! Still, "they" being used like that still would apply

[narrow hemlock]

point just being that it doesn't matter how pronouns were utilized in ancient times because the game still has other modern aspects

[heavy wigeon]

who is they

[dense abyss]

Context above, they were talking about Chaos I think

[tall lotus]

@narrow hemlock @granite ether that this making me wonder for, how it guns for that, but not this for they, crazy for me in greeken this time. what heat for getting the spear upgrade?

[modern garnet]

Instructions for getting the hidden spear is pinned in #h1-story-discussion

You don't need any specific heat

[heavy wigeon]

screnshot?

[tall lotus]

that what i seeing on streamer watching, they using many figting heats and fishing spot for to getting upgrade, but in which one is best? Morpheious Goddess she kind of strong but her magic keep fire on? that weird

@modern garnet

[modern garnet]

I'm sorry I don't understand what you're asking

Are you using a translator?

[tall lotus]

aahhh, not in this taht my first language english, i sorry. but isaying again for to this time, does goddess orpheious, she got mad power? how i use it good?

@modern garnet

[modern garnet]

Orpheus, the musician?

[tall lotus]

yes, in that one, she have guitar

[manic bobcat]

so.
a) that's a dude, so he
b) he doesn't give you any power
c) when you gift him nectar, he gives you a keepsake. that keepsake is not very good if you want to optimize your gameplay

hope this helps

[heavy wigeon]

where i live anyone can be a dude

[tall lotus]

@heavy wigeon funny in that you say that, I seeing this time, for to wonder how it since i read the rules. what we use it when talking? i seeing they/he/them/her/she/him for riddler, i want make sure i say right haha sorry

[heavy wigeon]

i think that mean u can say /they/him/she if u want it basicaly means that u can say whatever u want and u wont get in trouble lol

[tall lotus]

aaah, that making in the sense, thanking at you for this one friend

@manic bobcat i reading it this time, how i knowing if she is guy when in gaming in hadees he no correcting at me for she? this hard to play, like minigame on side? wishing in that gods tell me that for strategyies on this one, but i think spear is best for that god

[mint coral]

had double strike common unpommed during all of my run only to get 3 levels from a expensive pom + sweet nectar in styx lol

[heavy wigeon]

lol thats insane

[lone kernel]

Double strike is super based

[heavy wigeon]

isn't "based" some kind of alt-right dogwhistle 😰

[twin thistle]

wut

[tall lotus]

that liken kerberos? 3 dog head but cant contrlling it with whistle for sureing this time, how you get it?

[manic bobcat]

So I am assuming you are trying to ask the following:
How do you know Orpheus is a guy? Answer: In game, other characters refer to him as a guy, despite his feminine appearance. Also, he has wife as you later find out.
As for how to beat the game, try the Adamant Rail (the machine gun) if you can get it. Triple Bomb, Rocket Bomb, Cluster Bomb are all good stuff. Just my opinion though.

[plucky latch]

Wait, what do you mean by "he has a wife"

[tall lotus]

@manic bobcat ah, this making in the sense i guess, rocket bomb sound mad power ful

[plucky latch]

Nah, this not adding up

[tall lotus]

@plucky latch i thinking this one that for

[little dragon]

also hes a guy irl

and no one else in the game is bent

[heavy wigeon]

having a wife doesn't make u a guy

😅

[manic bobcat]

It's ||Euridyce||

not sure if you are trolling me

[heavy wigeon]

Foxhope I don't think that was his point

How is having a wife evidence that he's a guy??

[acoustic plank]

I'd like to imagine Orpheus prefers they/them but doesn't really care. That's my head cannon.

[tall lotus]

what important for this one fox, is to how power is made into fightings the hadees dad on this one, but i not knowing that orphieous can only having wife and not husbamd it the learning time for sure!

@manic bobcat

[manic bobcat]

fair. but in ancient greek context, having wife implies having a husband

at least that's the context im talking about

[plucky latch]

Oh. I thought you meant in the game

Cuz it's pretty modern

He has a gun

[manic bobcat]

I mean Orpheus and Eurydice are a couple, myth or game

[little dragon]

i mean its not really a gun

in the fiction it was used by hera wasnt it

and is even older than most other weapons

[tall lotus]

that what they telling in you FoxHope, but in sometime they saying that for books into the scholars writing! they lie sometime for sure and make stories into power like hadee using spear of power too!

[elfin granite]

I think they just wanted to put a gun in the game so they just made up a way to do it

[plucky latch]

How is it not a gun

[acoustic plank]

I mean, the gun can turn into a laser beam which is like 23rd century tech

[little dragon]

its an invention from the ancient era of titan that just bears a resemblance to modern day guns

[plucky latch]

True. but isn't it using a future thing

Calling on a deity from the future

[little dragon]

i think the farthest irl history is confirmed to exist in game is camelot right?

which is like 14th century or something

[heavy wigeon]

isnt greeks farther

[tall lotus]

@acoustic plank haha it like living in furture from where you linving in for sure this time! can tell what I eat tommorow too haha

[acoustic plank]

The fates also know all of time so time is irrelevant

[little dragon]

nah camelot is the same time as ancient rome, near the end of it even

so its quite a bit after greek

[plucky latch]

So, you are saying it's not a gun because things weren't called a gun back then?

I guess that makes sense

[little dragon]

well i mean if anything

achilles seems to imply that guns were based on the rail

not the other way around

[twin thistle]

its an adamant rail

[little dragon]

"if humanity ever got hold of this tech it would unimaginable"

he says something like that

[manic bobcat]

how many semantic arguments can this channel gets into today?

[tall lotus]

that new rule for this time in hadees discussion? it not gun it adment rail? that weird

[twin thistle]

yes

[plucky latch]

It's a discussion, Fox

Not an argument

[little dragon]

it would be pretty funny if zag got out of hell and died, and a normal human picked up the rail and reverse engineered it

[acoustic plank]

Depends what you mean by semantic. I think that depends on exactly how you define semantics

[brave portal]

I mean it is said that humans based their weapons on the ones the gods used

[manic bobcat]

Are we going to debate the difference between the two?

[twin thistle]

no

[brave portal]

So it leaves you to interpret that in the future humans discovered the cannon and based it to make firearms

[acoustic plank]

I feel like the rail is more of an auto-crossbow than a gun. The bullet speed leaves something to be desired

[manic bobcat]

https://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?id=3907

[plucky latch]

Yeah, it literally uses bullets

So Imma call it a gun

[tall lotus]

okokok, this in talking to WAY out of the place for hadees in this. Letting us in all talking about for this strategy, it shield i seeing but wonder if good? what boon for god power strong with it?

[little dragon]

btw Chaos is pretty explicitly female irl right?

like a mother nature kind of thing

[brave portal]

It's chaos

[little dragon]

i guess thats the one thing they changed

[brave portal]

Dunno if it was really a being to begin with in the myths

[rapid forum]

I'm a bit adamant on calling it auto-crossbow

[acoustic plank]

Chaos is beyond the pathetic human concept of gender

[manic bobcat]

Shield is good. Honestly probably anything works on it starting out.

[heavy wigeon]

u guys ever heard the song by arianna grande called uh

god is a woman

[little dragon]

i mean in real greek mythology chaos is pretty much always referred to as she

[heavy wigeon]

kinda seems relevant rn hhaaha

[little dragon]

mother of all creation that kind of thing

[heavy wigeon]

is ur pfp like a cute version of sasuke

[plucky latch]

Yeah, true. But it's like calling your car or yacht a "she"

[brave portal]

And the greeks already had a "mother nature"

Gaia

[heavy wigeon]

gaiga

[acoustic plank]

I feel like that's another semantic thing. Chaos is an entity. It would be like calling the very concept of birth female.

[brave portal]

Or gaiga

However you call it

[acoustic plank]

Gaia

[tall lotus]

Gaiga making the sense

[little dragon]

well Khaos is also just a normal goddess too

of fate and of the air

not just an abstract force

[little dragon]

yeah gaia was right after chaos

they emerged like back to back

[tall lotus]

@acoustic plank what that mean for concept of birth femaleing this time? i thinking that mose making sense too

[heavy wigeon]

are chaos and khaos different dudes

[brave portal]

The greek word for chaos doesn't have a gender

[little dragon]

probably just too ways of spelling it

[little dragon]

that might be the case, not sure. but youll still see stuff like "mother" used constantly

and decribed with female words basically

[brave portal]

Chaos itself isn't a being or an entity in the myths

It's what was before the cosmos

Before everything there was just chaos

[manic bobcat]

this sounds like a #h1-story-discussion tbh

[tall lotus]

I thinking this go too off ing the topic, it hard for me asking the questions for strategy

[little dragon]

its both

Chaos is the first being to ever exist. Chaos is both seen as a deity and a thing

[brave portal]

Everything was born from that chaos, but not given birth by it

[acoustic plank]

Imagine being an ancient greek looking into the future at a bunch of people telepathically arguing about the gender of each god in english

[little dragon]

the primordial nothing, and the goddess of fate and air

[brisk trail]

why do styx rooms not count for butterfly?

[tall lotus]

ok this going in too far this for sure, i thinking it time for the healing friends @granite ether

[brisk trail]

they're not considered an encounter?

[brave portal]

It's not a being, it's like the big bang in a sorta way

[twin thistle]

the big one counts

[little dragon]

just arbitrary balancing

it would be too op otherwise

theres alot of very small styx rooms with like 2 enemeis

[acoustic plank]

It depends but each section is considered one encounter

[brisk trail]

yeah dont think im gonna use it anymore

[tall lotus]

if for questions asking for sure, it best for talking to hadees qa this time

[twin thistle]

the small rooms are a bit too short and easy to no hit

[tall lotus]

@clever topaz what you think? this for sure hard to keep in head this time

[plucky latch]

Would it really be too op. Maybe if you're playing on babymode

[little dragon]

i mean i can pretty often just tear through a styx room in like 2 seconds

2 hit kill everything

[acoustic plank]

Regardless of whether any of styx counts, you can easily get a 40% global damage buff which is gigantic and overpowered, and it also trains you to play better

[brisk trail]

i think the point is on higher heat its hard to no hit rooms, if styx small rooms counted would make it considerable instead of dead

but yeah no/low heat it would be too strong

[twin thistle]

tbh butterfly and plume are already not worth it generally

[plucky latch]

^

[brisk trail]

yeah

god boons too good

[twin thistle]

also acorn

[brisk trail]

yep

[brave portal]

How do you know where the satyr sack is anyway

[little dragon]

it costs 2 specific gods that suit your build, the potential for higher rarity boons, 150 coins, 50 HP

[twin thistle]

rng

[little dragon]

the effect is fine but the opportunity cost of running 1 keepsake for the whole run is massive

[acoustic plank]

I roll a lucky D20

[brisk trail]

just use esp

[brave portal]

Cause the narrator said something about marks on the ground once but i ain't seeing nothing

[twin thistle]

sack just cant be 1st room

[brisk trail]

yeah sack has >50% chance to be in 2nd room

but you can get unlucky

[marsh ore]

Hey I have a question about the story (I already know what happens I just messed up in a cutscene) where do I ask?

[tall lotus]

asking for here this time friend

asking away! we answer it all times!

[marsh ore]

||hey I was playing through the story and I got to the point where I was let into Hades room but I didn't look at the picture (ik because I watched a playthrough) and now it won't let me back in and I didn't look at the pic of Persephone so what do I do now||

[little dragon]

you cant go back in there until much later

[tall lotus]

ah, this in for sure is messing up the game.. maybe reset progress @marsh ore

.

[little dragon]

so youll have to look it up if you want the exact dialogue

[twin thistle]

well uh. probably just go and beat up dad

[plucky latch]

You just beat the game again, like always

[brave portal]

Mmm you kinda messed up

[marsh ore]

Wow I messed up real bad huh

[brave portal]

I think

[little dragon]

zag just says like "i knew it! he really does still care about her, why else would he still keep this?"

something like that

[brave portal]

Yeah but that's only if you check it right?

[little dragon]

yeah

[marsh ore]

No ik that but how do I advance the story if I didn't find it

[little dragon]

oh its fine

[twin thistle]

beat up dad probably

[little dragon]

just keep doing runs

[manic bobcat]

well it's just a piece of dialogue. it sucks

but like, not then end of the world

[little dragon]

the game will probably just act like zag did see it

like normal

[brave portal]

Try to escape again

[manic bobcat]

eventually you would get back to the room easily

[plucky latch]

Plot hole time

[twin thistle]

aka beat up dad

[brave portal]

Maybe it will register like you did see it

[manic bobcat]

so not even anything missed

[marsh ore]

Ok I'll do my best

I hope I didn't ruin my acc

That would be sad cuz I have some nice clears

[brave portal]

Like the plot has to advance anyway

[little dragon]

if that actually ruined your account

that would be hilarious

[plucky latch]

Yeah, it doesn't matter if you went in the room or not probably

[little dragon]

how its still in the game

[brave portal]

Cause you gotta escape 10 times to get the true ending and all

[plucky latch]

Just do the runs

[marsh ore]

Kk I hope it'll work out I'll do an update after this run

[manic bobcat]

glgl

[little dragon]

its fine its fine

[brave portal]

I bet the script will activate once you get to mom

Hopefully

[plucky latch]

Plot hole time

[little dragon]

there was a ton of effort put into this game to make sure you dont miss anything by doing stuff out of order

that type of oversight cant exist

[brisk trail]

benefits package is so dumb sometimes

i just got a room with 20 odd skulls and the blue heart condition

i couldnt kill them quick enough to remove the hearts before they regened to 5 of them lmao

[tall lotus]

I thinking this a lot on the times, what zagreious sound british, i thinking greeken not sound that way?

[little dragon]

every character sounds different

why is dusa from california

😔

[manic bobcat]

here it is in video form

https://youtu.be/YJn0iN2HLiA

[plucky latch]

I think your link just died lmao

[tall lotus]

hmmmm taht seem suspious, it say youtu fot be

[brisk trail]

literally me lmfao, i was using bow too

scarily accurate

[brave portal]

I mean they do mention he got the accent from his father bc he taught him how to speak

[manic bobcat]

nah, it was me manually removing the embedded contents so it doesn't take up place

[little dragon]

it takes up place on our chromes from having to open up the tab

[brisk trail]

ugh

[manic bobcat]

that's the link shortener. you don't have to click it if you are concerned

[twin thistle]

how even is that room possible with slow weapons once the numbskulls get their sheilds

[little dragon]

i guess there are people of every accent in hell

so differnet people might pick up different ones

[brave portal]

And like they're gods, language shouldn't be a problem for them

[little dragon]

by listening to shades

[manic bobcat]

im a regular on the server so i would never post anything stupid lmao

[plucky latch]

That's impossible. Hell isn't that big

I escaped it

[manic bobcat]

did you really though?

[little dragon]

look under the lava in asphodel next time you pass by

[brisk trail]

you have to focus 1 at a time with normal attack

it's infuriating

[brave portal]

There's no escape dummy, that's the point of the game

That and parental divorce

[twin thistle]

dont they shield faster than you attack though

[little dragon]

get up to the surface, force close the game, then never play it again

canon permanant escape

[plucky latch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/247844564352630784/888644816647356426/Eisu8B-UYAAZaA-.png

[brisk trail]

most of the time yeah

[plucky latch]

It's not that big

[twin thistle]

with bow though you can probably shotgun special

but have fun with arthur

[brisk trail]

it doesnt work very well

[heavy wigeon]

hey guys sorry for going afk

[plucky latch]

Welcome back, Riley

Good to have you back

[tall lotus]

welomcing back riley, !

[brave portal]

Dunno man, zagreus kinda takes the backroom approach, we don't know if we did see the entirety of the hades

[plucky latch]

You can see it here. Let me show you again

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/247844564352630784/888644816647356426/Eisu8B-UYAAZaA-.png

[heavy wigeon]

he does go thru the entire map

[little dragon]

just look at the background vistas in the first chamber of each region

you can see how long it stretches for

[little dragon]

blame the mapmaker being bad

[plucky latch]

Okay, let me hop in game rn

[little dragon]

😔

[brave portal]

Yeah but we don't see the actual trip

[slim grail]

i keep dying to charon!!! why is he soo hard??? i need tips plssss

[heavy wigeon]

u can interpret from context

[slim grail]

im raging sooo badddd

[heavy wigeon]

dodge his hits

[plucky latch]

Are you implying SuperGiant didn't know how to make a proper map?

[brisk trail]

just need to learn his attacks

[plucky latch]

😠

[brisk trail]

theyre pretty telegraphable

[manic bobcat]

which biome are you fighting him on?

[brisk trail]

most important is the oar swing

[brave portal]

Charon really goes "do more damage than the god of hell himself"

[twin thistle]

kill him before he kills you

[little dragon]

https://64.media.tumblr.com/104d42e32bd3bb171d727039f551c419/52e3aca59902def3-ed/s540x810/ff6832fb1dce7f48214245c1d50e7a0680751ed7.gifv

[slim grail]

no. that skills of his where that purple smoke thing came in all direction!! i cant dodge

there's no way!

[little dragon]

look at how many souls are in 1 area

[quartz hearth]

It seems like the "Olympian accent" is British (RP/posh British specifically) and the "Chthonic accent" is American (Midland/Western New England)

[heavy wigeon]

yeah we go thru there

[twin thistle]

well you can dodge them

[brisk trail]

there is, it's just difficult

divine dash is helpful

[manic bobcat]

charon in tartarus can be brutal, maybe wait for asphodel or elysium?

[quartz hearth]

And Zag picked his Olympian accent up from his dad, who immigrated from Olympus

So to speak

[brave portal]

I ain't fighting charon again

[plucky latch]

Yeah. Zag dashes pretty fast

[brisk trail]

i need 4 more loyalty cards for codex

only reason i fight

[brave portal]

I've had enough with him hitting me with the paddle twice

[plucky latch]

What are you doing, using Chaos boons?

[twin thistle]

also when the statues are in the arena theyll block the attacks

[slim grail]

really? u can dodge that purple smoke came in ALL DIRECTION?

[twin thistle]

uh yeah

[little dragon]

dodge through it

[manic bobcat]

yeah, just dash through them

[brave portal]

Yeah just dash

[heavy wigeon]

why so many fruit-based characters in the chat right now

u guys know each other

[plucky latch]

This guy don't know about i-frames.

[slim grail]

i tried but i still got hit. am i experiencing a bug?

[twin thistle]

no

[brave portal]

Most attacks can be dodged by dashing trough them

[mint coral]

if you are dash striking your i frames are gone

[twin thistle]

you dont happen to be dash striking right

[mint coral]

if you arent then you may be timing the dash wrong

[tall lotus]

that a bug my friend for sure this time, i ask for you

[plucky latch]

His timing is impeccable

Why else would he believe he was cheated

Think about it

[tall lotus]

@modest dirge @chilly stump @bleak plaza My friend thinking that this bug in game for to not doing damage? i wondering it in patch for sure

not sureing this time

[brave portal]

Wha

[slim grail]

so u guys mean that i should dodge like a pixel perfect kinda thing?

[manic bobcat]

nah man

[tall lotus]

it ok watermelon

they say soon

[plucky latch]

Yeah. Use correct timing

[little dragon]

yup

[tall lotus]

just wait for it to answer

[manic bobcat]

i really mean it, just dash, the timing is quite lenient

[acoustic plank]

Are you suggesting that Charon has a southern accent?

[manic bobcat]

you are using double dash right?

[slim grail]

yea i double dash

hmmm ok i try again later

[brave portal]

Imagine charon talking like a texan instead of his usual uggghs

[chilly stump]

Hey there, please don't ping team members to ask if something is a bug in game or not! But we're happy to accept suspected bug reports to our contact page (supergiantgames.com/contact).

[manic bobcat]

yeah double dash through it and don't dash strike

[slim grail]

charon... cmon i just need that money.

[slim grail]

uh oh....

[tall lotus]

ah, thanking for this time for sure caitlyn!

[heavy wigeon]

hi cailtin 👋

[plucky latch]

Caitlin where is the girl that sings in the game

[chilly stump]

My pleasure, I hope you're all having a good night/?timezone?!

[plucky latch]

Big fan

[manic bobcat]

hi caitlin hope earthbound is going fine

[slim grail]

ok ty! there is also another bug im facing. i be sure to sent the report. ty

[tall lotus]

it always good time in her for sure this time! thanking from all way across globe!

[twin thistle]

uh the charon thing probably aint a bug

[heavy wigeon]

yo u just pinged she/her

[plucky latch]

Look, Melonhead. Didn't she already tell you not ping her?

[slim grail]

yea. i think i just need to dodge properly

[chilly stump]

Hey it's alright, I understand using reply for direct responses.

[slim grail]

oh. im sorry. i thought ping meant in a different way

[brave portal]

Oh heavens

[slim grail]

sorry caitiln

[tall lotus]

that caitlin for sure! always make for the times in happy for this haha

[chilly stump]

It's just for out of the blue pings like @s since our team is out late. Nope, you're good WaterMelon!

[plucky latch]

Oh alright. Just looking about.

[tall lotus]

thanking from across this side of pond!

[chilly stump]

I appreciate it! You all take care of each other

[slim grail]

❤️

what a nice admin

[granite ether]

Caitlin be based

[heavy wigeon]

most of the admins are a lot nicer than the mods yeah

[manic bobcat]

lmao

[twin thistle]

dont let aggy see that

[plucky latch]

Actually true.

😏

[slim grail]

I bet you all having trouble against charon too right?

[brave portal]

Yeah

[plucky latch]

I beat Charon first try

[brave portal]

Couldn't beat him yet

[twin thistle]

eh

[manic bobcat]

mod me and i will make sure the beating would continue until morale imrpoves

[heavy wigeon]

ive mostly been playing hearthstone lately cuz i cant yell in my dorms haha

[slim grail]

i beat him only twice

[slim grail]

hearthstone is also a stressful game

[brave portal]

I kinda don't want to fight him anymore

[slim grail]

yea dont. fight him