#h1-discussion
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Any nerds?
When unlocking hidden aspects, does the 5 blood in a single weapon requirement include the Zag weapons?
I already unlocked Guan Yu
64 is the max but the most its have been beated with is 61 (without being routed)
No one has beaten the game with max heat?
So, for fists, if I already have Guan Yu unlocked, and I have 5 blood in the Zag fists, am I eligible to unlock the hidden aspect for fists?
Sheesh. Time for a challenge
why doesnt anyone do godmode for 64 heat
Prolly cuz this dude is lying
If you got the dialogue about fighting asterius barehanded already, yeah
Is there any kind of indicator to know if you're in God Mode?
idk i never used it
It shows up as a boon
ah
- ig most experienced players would know the difference in dmg ig
it adds more damage?
Alright. Die 40 times then break the record
ez
God mode is disabled in hell mode
leaving 🗿
Also i dont think god mode is allowed for leader boards anyways (otherwise i dont see why wouldnt they use it)
If you get 80% damage resistance and then 20% more, do you just become actually God
it stacks multiplicative so you cant
Ah okay
dodge chance in the other side 
Um... I've been thinking about getting a controller for the game, which one should I get: series x or ps5?
classic
Wheyy nyx finally gave me the waking phrase for the stygian blade hidden aspect
No titan blood sadly
xD moment
I got it the final boss on proper heat just knows but I died on the final boss just as he was about to die
I almost killed the final boss until he went phase 2 cause i guess i used death save
Good luck next time
does anybody have an article or a timestamp in a video about why they made chaos nonbinary, i remember seeing it but i can't find it
Oh my god. I just beat Champions for the first time on Fresh File (winning your first ever run). I’ve died to them so many times before this. I don’t expect to beat Hades but I’m definitely gonna try
Any advice for Fresh File Hades fight?
I have Merciful End (but only 50 doom damage
) and Divine Protection
Is there anywhere I can see people doing this fight in a context other than speedruns? I plan to take my time, especially since I have Divine Protection
I watched a few speedruns of it, but those don’t teach me the safest way, they teach me the fastest safe way
Is it really possible to get 100% dodge chance? Like become unhittable?
Im fighting hades, have skelly companion x2. Im on hades second bar, how come i cant use my second summon? It just says “summon unavailable “
I did it twice before… but i guess it was cuz i used 1 skelly on first bar, and 1 on his second bar
I guess it doesnt allow 2 on one bar
:/
That’s literally not possible
Unless Skelly companion follows different rules from Meg companion
Which I guess is possible?
But I kinda find it unlikely
Idk I never used Rib lol
Ok according to the wiki, that is impossible
“Like other Companions, Rib can only be used once per combat encounter”
According to https://hades.fandom.com/wiki/Companion_Rib
Companion Rib is obtained by reaching a high level of trust with Skelly, and then gifting him Ambrosia.
Using Rib in battle will summon Skelly to aid you. He will appear and distract foes in an area by shouting at them, drawing their attacks and attention away from you. He can take friendly fire. He will remain until he is killed; if you finish ...
i heard there was special dialogue if you can get to hades on your very first run of a save file? sadly i cant seem to find anything showing it
Maybe each hades bar counts as one combat encounter? I literally just did it 2 runs ago, used skelly on first bar, then second. But tried to aave both for his second bar on my last run, and it wouldnt let me
Idk, I’ll let you know if I make it this run though. I’m taking a break rn though
Again, impossible
We would if we could
what do perfect catches do?
I can’t find anything saying that the phases count as separate encounters
God knows I want to just spam meg twice in one go
Give you legendary fish
If you only watch my runs when they go up on YouTube, you probably thought I stopped running Hades. After my last PB it took another 1000+ attempts and competition from several other runners to finally get this run: the first Hades kill from a new save in under twenty minutes. I left in a lot of the post run because this run feels particularly m...
ah aight thx bro
i just watched the Devs React video to the 25 min fresh file speedrun lol
I mean again, idk what to tell ya… i did it? If you wanna see for yourselves, go for it
but he skipped the dialogue so idk if it was special dialogue
Looks like normal first encounter dialogue
Try pause buffering? It might be possible to read it if you pause on the right frame. Idk though, I’m working on completing a fresh file run myself so if that dialogue exists, I’d rather see it myself
Yeah, that's what I did.
Yes it is
okay so pretend im illiterate with computers
o.o what is pause buffering
like.. pausing and trying to go through every frame? idek how to do that lol
i mean i could try but i dont even have a mouse all i gots a track pad xD
Maybe you just have call and summon bound to the same button?
Hey rmacinty
Or skelly just summoned for a long timw
Defiance, were you one of the people who gave me advice for my Fresh File runs yesterday?
Deff not long time, summoned for first bar, he got killed. During second bar, did the same
Yep
EXTREMEly odd
Try it again if you can!
I plan to! I was just disappointed i saved both skellys for second bar and couldnt and then died
:/
Thanks for the advice! I beat Champions, and am entering Styx (in a bit, I’m taking a break). Do you have any advice for the Hades fight (and/or Styx)?
Im worn out. Im only 2 weeks into the game, and ive just beaten the game with every weapon except the fists
I have Merciful End (but only 50 doom damage
) and Divine Protection
Im currently trying to win with fists… so hard, and i came pretty close
Well done!
Sorry, havent seen rest of chat, are you new??
Fists are challenging for their short range
It's fresh file
No. I’m doing a fresh file run 👍
Hades SUCKS with 50 health
Thanks! I won on my 33rd, 44th, 50th, 51st, and 53rd attempts
Run a lot and try using your casts as main damage
I have 175 max health, with around 80 atm
I recommend charon + extra cast from well in styx
Yeah definitely play like you'll die in 1 hit
Because you're gonna die in two
YES. I get past all the regular enemies easily with fists. My fav combo is magnetic cutter (aspect) + poseidon knock away special. Spamming that is literally pushing and pulling enemies to their demise. However, this is not helpful at all vs the heroes and hades
Is this directed at me?
yep
Yeah it sucks against bosses
The meta build is Doom Attack, Divine Special, look for Merciful End, then get divine dash and just dash attack
In styx, i find the biggest nuisance are the walking rats who shoot poison at ya. I find it helpful to deflect them, or use attacks that stun them momentarily and spam so they cant shoot
But I advocate for off-meta builds so try a Dio hangover attack build with Aphrodite special/attack
Well, there’s a few issues unfortunately. Issue 1: I can’t put on Charon keepsake because it doesn’t exist in fresh file lol
Issue 2: Hades has 34,000 health and my cast does less than 100 damage
Well actually you start with divine dash
And then look for low tolerance to just stack hangover
Oh yeahhhhh
No offense but this is kinda a different thing. I have a ton of experience with the game, but fresh file is a different beast
Whats merciful end?
Ares-Athena duo boon
Whats fresh file?
Also, I have ME and Divine Protection
I like to maximize chances of ME ASAP so I prefer to get deflect special
I’m entering Styx rn but I don’t have experience there so I’m asking for advice
Oh then just save-scum
No you literally can’t start with special, you’re options on your first boon are attack, cast, or dash
For the hades fight, that is
How?
Whats fresh file?
Once you get hit once, you can’t quit out
Straight up alt+f4 the game
Beating the game on the first escape of a save file
Ohhhh
Starting from a completely new save file
Holy cow
A "fresh file"
I’m playing on switch. Doing this would just delete my run
Would it??
Beating the game on first run?? Thats insane
It would be the same as pressing “give up”
Can't you just turn the switch off or something
I was advising Rys on how to beat the game with fists lmao
It’s even harder than you think. Did you know there’s no chaos? No Zeus? No Poseidon, no Aphrodite, no Hermes? Obviously no DDs and 1 dash. Theres no hammers. No keepsakes. There’s also no such thing as Wells of Charon in normal chambers, only between underworld regions. It’s brutal
Ah ok my bad
I'll dm you screenshots, gimme a bit
also, 50 health, no extra cast damage, no backstab, one dash, no DD
It's legit brutal
Me? I’d rather avoid spoiling any unique dialogue. It would be a nice treat after working so hard for this
Yeah I'll just DM rin then
Okay Zag sword was worse than I remember
What’s the internal cooldown on Sea Storm?
0.2 secs
How does the Styx anvil work on a first run? I obviously have no hammers since they don’t exist, yet there is an anvil in the shop
Ok the wiki is saying that I just won’t be able to buy it
what a waste
Alright I died to Hades as expected
I didn’t have practice with the first run version of that fight (one dash, ME Zag sword)
Only one dash just doesn’t sound cool, period
for fresh file you dont necessarily need to do it on the first run btw
3rd run with bow is a common route for a fresh file clear
I FINALLY BEAT THE FINAL BOSS WITH ALL WEAPONS!
I won on attempts 33, 44, 50, 51, 53, and 57!! 🙂
For anyone currently here: What’s your favorite boon in the game?
Single boon? winter harvest for coolness alone (pun not intended but still welcomed)
Mine is Smoldering Air probably
me crutch on greatest reflex 
Lol
I dont like the rail gun its the hardest weapon for me to use having to stand still to shoot which exposes yourself to attacks and can bearly stun enemies
you can dash while holding shot
Thats probably gonna take awhile to get use to without aim assist
Ik i just like to try to use skill without having help from game options
lol having to manage both movement and aim on the same stick aint really great for manual aiming with a high fire rate ranged weapon
I have come to realise
Aphrodite has the worst duos
the only good one is heart rend
every other is extremely niche and just not good
idk why you wouldnt want low tolerance on a hangover build
okay fine that's also okay
smouldering air is also really good with certain combos like the hermes and zeus cast boons
aphrodite call pretty good with it
I don't like aphro call
constantly stunning bosses
Dionysus is my favourite for duo boons
Smoldering Air is broken in all the best ways, with any Call.
The Zeus Duo where your cast thingies hit nearby enemies with lightning is ridiculous.
How peculiar!
😔 fav non duo boon is probs rare crop
its always a meme to see it
how can you not take it
Who doesn’t like heroic beam?
wow, the food room got a whole article lol
Smoldering air is good with most calls
With any Call.
Global damage buffs also buffs calls, right? Like eris, ravenous will, rush delivery
I was about to ask about that
Is this real?
I have never seen a food room before
yep, they are real :3
Yeah.
They're real, though you need authority
And just roll them
Forgor how much they heal tho
Isn't it kinda pointless bc you would have the fountain rooms by then tho?
Or use persuasion altogether
Mhm
Also
Any tips for the aspect of guan yu?
It's pretty strong but the liiiife
I could get one shotted by most bosses
I don't wanna know that i spent 3 titanic blood on something i'll never use
I mean i already did it's prophecy, but died at hades
Do special build and kite
Yeah i kinda tried that bc the standard attack kinda sucks
But hey, at least i realized i'm not that bad at dodging
I mean, i got pretty far in Hades' second phase with 1 point left
If a Chaos curse makes me unable to earn obols, can I still get the reward from an obol room?
I think not
No you can't
I wrote a brief guide for Guan Yu here. #h1-discussion message
Wait, Billowing Strength will buff calls as well? So, a call buffs subsequent calls? Woah
Thats global damage for you 
Damn, that’s good lmao
Imagine if global damage affected summons
(outside sweet surrender/maim)
what happens if a trove runs down to 0 before you clear it?
You just get no reward.
You can just exit the chamber, too.
At any point when doing a trove encounter.
You can do that...?
This game is addicting lol
Truly
The more you know
yeaa you caan
my a key is wonkey lol
anywaay, I opened a trove, flamewheels spawned and I just screw this crap, I'm out
I've started a lot of troves by error so i remember tat is possible
doesn't it stop at a certain number no matter how long you take?
Is it possible for the Charon boss fight to spawn in the shop right before a boss?
no, it's always in the mid shop
Darn
What keepsake should I run on Eris if I already got : Zeus attack, arty special and splash dash in tart?
Poseidon or artemis
Can get hunters mark, PP, breaking wave and shoals
Or plume for RD
Wait, what the hell, Winter Harvest works on bosses?
I’ve started using the plume a lot and it’s great
And it has a cool finisher line too 
Reap what you sow!
It literally procced for me on Hades and I had a near heart attack like, is this a new attack I've never seen before, and then he keeled over

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bruh
Whoops skrry
we got it lol
uhm im not sure if thats legit
It's not. Clicking on that link will get your account disabled for violations of Discord T&C.
wait w h a t
In what situations would you prefer Fated Authority over Fated Persuasion and vice versa?
memes
I used it to pom hangover a lot
So Persuasion is better than Authority in most cases?
Yeah
please do something about fishing in Greece, I've played for 3 days an found no spots.
Get poseidon legendary 
The one time getting huge catch in styx is good, actually
It's pure RNG bro. I only ever got a Greece fishing spot once before it shifted over to the final boss arena
For the modded players here, what are some mods you can recommend for a ''newgame+'' experience? for example (idk if they exist) more mirror traits, acces to fishing before the poseidon encounter, etc. things like that. NOT THINGS THAT MAKE THE GAME EASIER. Les grindier is okay
guys I decided gonna get two stuffed cat heads so my cat can be Cerberus for Halloween

also what reward do you guys choose from sisyphus? obols or darkness?
i like the coins
Depends if I need healing or not
If I got railed by previous rooms, I choose Darkness since I have the talent that also heals me when I get darkness. If not, Obols all the way. Support Charon's shop
It has 3 lines, at least the ones I got
Rarely i take the heal if i want to keep high confidence and i have decent amount of money
Darkness can be helpful if you're on a janky Dark Regen mirror combination and can use the darkness at home
i used to always take obol but nowadays i always take darkness because im grinding for the unseen one rank 
he gives a bit more than the reward you get from the furies
Which Apollo boon?
Bloodlust
if you want to discuss games that arent hades, you can post in #video-games
DUDE i get it so often but each time i MESS IT UP BC I NEVER KNOW WHEN TO PRESS E
im so devastated
I was just meme-ing about the thematic similarities
What kind of game is this ?
I WAS EXPECTING A TENSE FIGHT WITH THE ASPECT OF ARTHUR AND HADES JUST ||LET ME GO??|| COME ON
I WAS ACTUALLY EXCITED THIS TIME
oh well
Hi, sorry if it’s not allowed but I do have a question: if I save right before the hades fight, upload the save on ps+ and if I die just quit and download the save again would it work to basically fight him again? I’m kinda tired of the 50min run to him…
Dunno, but you could give it a try.
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But you could also ask for help with stronger builds to get to him faster, and hopefully beat him more easily.
I’m really not good at the game, in the 15 runs that I’ve done this is the second time I’ve got to the 4th area
That's fine, it took me about 25 runs to beat the heroes
I can get to them consistently
But they do usually kill me
I literally needed two death defiances and 400hp and I still barely survived
The big lad hits hard
yeah it definitely takes some time to get used to the fights. i highly recommend God Mode if you’re having trouble
Does dashing give me imunity frames?
Yes
Yes. But if you do an attack or anything mid-dash, you're no longer invulnerable.
Wow - @rose trellis just scored a no hit run. What an achievement!
Oh wow I just learned who that was just last night after watching their afk hades battle lol
Not a single hit against them? I don't know how people get so good at this game
EM4?
Haha it was intense.
Yes
lots and lots of practice and time
And lots of practice with FO and stuff to make non-FO runs more straightforward
Yep - practice, luck, and execution
I started a hell mode save after a long break, and got really frustrated with the stunted health, that haelian inspired me, and now I'm back in the groove😎
yeah I keep forgetting that Chthonic vitality actually heals 3HP at base and not 2 xD
H A D E S
Is there like, any use for cold fusion
if your source of jolted takes too long to apply ig
Bruh I just had an issue that my controller didn't connect and now I restarted my run
Epic fail moment
bunger
I was got the tri-shot boon for the chaos shield once and never got it again/
.
Triple Shot is a Daedalus upgrade for the bow, not the shield.
oh sorry
Did you get them mixed up? That'd explain why you couldn't find it again.
I think so
the aspect of chaos would be what you’re looking for
Is there a page or note somewhere explaining the abbreviations?
"LC4 FO2 EM3 TD2 SD" etc
well whenever I went looking for it I could not get it from Ares.
EM3 makes me hate everything
Check pins in #h1-high-heat-strategies.
bruh

Weapon aspects are not obtained via a boon. You have them when you select Reveal on a weapon before a run.
They're unlocked with Titan Blood
That was fast
Thanks
Dang I have not played the game in awhile
I played today but I think I must've been rusty or smthn. I nearly died to Dad and that's just not allowed
EM3 DC1
Don't be too hard on yourself.
He can do a lot of damage. Sometimes things just happen.
See what I love about the game is when you die you don't want to quit you want to keep going
Yup
Oh I've nearly Maxed out Eris already cool
It's a freakin mastapiece
Honestly this is my favourite game this year
Yeah it was my personal game of the year in 2020
I’m sure that’s a commonly shared sentiment lol
I don't understand why tlou won GOTY
Actually unironically rigged
I mean ghost of Tsushima or Hades should have won
Hades won several game of the year awards. There's more than just one GOTY award.
This is the single player game I've enjoyed since the Arkham games
Yeah, Game Awards is just the one everyone talks about
Geoff Keighley, the Dorito pope, is too strong
Who?
The Game Awards host
He was an IGN guy for a long time so that was just a nickname people gave him
Ah k.
He’s pretty clueless most times
I have a question. what games are you guy excited for this year and 2022?
Is there a place to get help with builds, or should I just ask here?
I’d say #h1-builds-and-combat
That's a better question for #video-games tbh.
Nothing other than Hades. Hades is the only game I play rn.
Ah k. I need an Eris build so I'll ask there. Ty.
Lol
Ooh
I'll mark that as solved.
My Demeter Aspect guide that works on the other Malphon aspects pretty well, too, is here. #h1-builds-and-combat message
Zeus, so, you'll have to go real out of your way. 🙂
Requirements for hidden aspects are pinned in #h1-story-discussion.
I think I'm set for Dem. EM Dem cast Artemis Call. I'll still have a look tho
Love how Ares literally can just give you an attack boost
Lady Demeter's Call is decent.
Poseidon’s is also really good imo
if ares call can give you an attack boost then your dps sucks
That's true.
Invincibility and damage by just spinning in a circle slamming into enemies over and over
Really fun
Ares' Aid drops your DPS in any good build.
Worst: Demeter
Best: Ares/Artemis/Aphro.
Zeus & Dio are the best.
Not his call. One of his boons increases your attack, special and cast damage by a certain percentage
Zeus' Aid is amazing.
Really?
Zeus works better for closer weapons tho
The lightning strikes didn’t seem to do all that much, considering you have to be directly next to the enemy
I mean anything is a melee weapon if you're going fast.
But then again I just don’t roll with Zeus that much in general
It's gonna be harder with something like Coronacht
Activating any Call gives you i-frames, so being close isn't really a problem.
I think every call is pretty balanced.
oh lmao
True
Bummer that Lord Ares doesn't have a Call, though.
Athena's Aid does better DPS than Ares' Aid. 
Lol
Oml EM3 is aids
It's a fact.
true
Poor Ares
Ares has better stuff tho
Whoops
TUT TUT
Nah, he got plenty of really good boons. Don't feel sorry for him.
Sometimes I take his keepsake just for the base % damage increase
Cast is okay.
His cast combo with Poseidon is pretty interesting
His dash is pretty bad
His Dash is pretty good.
Anyone who uses Dio dash is weird
Hunting Blades is amazing, Ares's Cast alone is below average.
Me omw to pick up Athena dash for the 8 millionth time
Drunken Dash isn't too bad, either. Easy way to proc Bad Influence and builds god gauge pretty quick.
I prefer using something for ME over the damage
Drunken Dash is my least favorite
Mistral dash 
I mean, ME existing doesn't make Blade Dash bad.
Never heard of it. What's that?
I just think there's better stuff
Somebody should give Lady Demeter a Dash boon.
Not just fun, absolutely broken
Good for spacing
Here, have 1 cold thing. So useful
And deleting enemies
Poseidon Dash on Eris=death
Screw spacing, poms on Tidal Dash and just kill everything.
My spacing is right in their face to slam them against walls.
I pick up Athena’s too much 
Brute Force>Spacing
You don't need to space if you kill them before they kill you
Simole
Ah yes simole
What’s the base damage on Poseidon’s Dash
Plus wallslam damage?
What prophecy grants me alot of titan blood?
The base damage is everything in Tartarus dies and the pom scaling is everything double-dies.
Or something.
Idek how much damage wall slams even do
That’s actually crazy, I never even considered using it as an offensive option
Athena brainrot
Wall-slam damage scales with the biome.
I did the miniboss one and then like the intelligent being I am accidentally unlocked a different aspect
Oh? For real?
Yup. That's why wall-slams in Satyr tunnels just kill everything.
Athena dash is really good, too. Tidal Dash & Deflect Dash are both easily the best two dashes in the game.
Wow
I hate it when I use my call and it hits something like a numbskull
You guys ever do a Heat run where a legendary boon gets locked out under limited boons lmao
And if I remember right velocity. @night rampart, you're the one who found the info, right?
Idk man, as someone with around 10 40 heat clears, I will literally take divine dash over everything
F
That happened to me twice in one run
my 40 heat (and only one im doing) didnt run AP so nope 
It was actually funny, I think I screenshotted
That is why Approval Process is terrible. Most people don't run it outside of super high heat.
I've done plenty of high heat runs with AP2, so er... yeah.
Could someone take a look at my current build and in the build chat and let me know who to take next?
I just wanted to test it out
Do I have it right that most people don’t think doing EM4 is worth it?
Only one way to find out.
I want dad to be a challenge
But then how do I get 51 Heat?
Yessir
Oh that's pain
em4 is fun
I hate emthreeseus
But Theseus is just my favorite character in the game so I might be biased
I hate Theseus
I love him
All of his lines are amazing
And the chariot outfit is so stupid that it’s amazing
And he basically has a tank
What a legend
just read on a list that Hades supports the Adaptive Triggers feature of the DualSense controller.
a) how does it use them and
b) only on the ps5 copy or on the PC version aswell?
I love how Asterius got some armor, and then Theseus gets a Cart, guns and bombs
And a stupid helmet
Yes very balanced splitting
That Daedalus specifically designed to look as stupid as possible
Theseus’s deranged laughter when he’s firing his Gatling gun completes my life
(might repost the question in a tech supp channel lmao. And yes Theseus silly gold man)
Even his summon dialogue is amazing
I wanna get a boon from every god so I can show Theseus that Artemis likes me more
“Get out of here, you skeleton!”
“Asterius! Watch out for that Boulder!”
He and Asterius’s bond is so great
bosses reactions to
are always amazing to be fair
"Lady Artemis, I need your help!"
"Artemis!"
"Firing!"
Say sike rn.
Theseus lowkey bullies Asterius
No he doesn’t! They’re friends
"is that a rock?" - dad vs 
I love her voice line: "I've got them in my sights!"
Just takes me back to my soldier 76 days
Like no Asterius you may not have an opinion.
How dare you compliment Zagreus
Oh so he's good so I'm bad?
The only time they have a fight Theseus just gives him the silent treatment and that’s hilarious
That’s what makes him great
theseus is just insecure about his strength and lashes out against his bff
You’re not supposed to take him seriously
When Zag asks Asterius for the autograph and Theseus chimes in about giving him one too
Should I "befriend" literal Death or a woman with a whip first? Hm.
Decisions Descisions.
And when Zag asks Asterius to talk for once and Theseus is like “Yes! And I too, shall talk!”
I love him so much
The voice performance elevates it too
He kinda cool ig
Oh the voice performance is amazing
Oh cool I'm now officially working for The House
That's pretty cool
Now I'm hired to ransack the Underworld.
Gamer moment
Death
He’s chill
Death is kinda sweet
We Stan the than
I love how it's harder for us to talk about feelings than kill a bunch of shades.
😳
The fact that I cannot romance Dusa is upsetting to me.
Any and all jokes regarding a love for Thanatos can be misunderstood in a way that belies an unhealthy mindset
Than the man
A common thread it would seem
I Stan Than the Man
I’m simply surprised there’s no Zeus romance
Lmfaooo
This doesn't align with Greek mythology
Zeus should be able to romance with everyone
In Every game that Zeus is in
He should be romance-able
Including God of War
I mean the ending would be a bit wierd

Ok and
I sat there for 30 minutes pummelling Zeus's face because I didn't realise I could stop
Zeus has probably attempted to do it with a hole in the ground an inconceivable amount of times
Gaea is technically a living force so
Probably
The dash too
And the whole
Death Defiance
Thing
When the Styx tries to take Zag he should just jump and see what happens.
The postgame endings are so funny
My favorite one is the literal actual looney tunes one
The cliff?
Where he runs full speed at a wall that’s painted to look like a tunnel and dies from it
Oh, the “Wall painted to look like the way out”
Yes
You ever think it’s weird how Zag doesn’t use death Defiance to stay on the surface slightly longer
Are these little animations or is it the little speeches the Narrator gives?
Narrator
Ah
Speeches
The animation is the same every time
✌️
The terminator reference is funny tho
Heroic Rail time
Uh excuse me what
I have thunder signet equipped
And yet Poseidon appeared first
That happens sometimes
But I just started my run
Huh
The fishin’ specialty
I don't want this
Id prefer Zeus attack pls
huge catch gaming
nice
Does prophecy foretold mean I've completed a prophecy?
huge catch is broken
the one time I got it I skipped the last bossfight 
it means there's a new prophecy waiting for you
Temple of Styx, How many tunnels/rooms i need do to get Fetid Sack?
at least 2
2-5
no
Okey
nop
2-5.. So.. this is RNG..
aye
Question: Were there any notable or amusing bugs that have since been patched?
100% rng, yes
hello
howdy
hey what system do you play Hades on?
my oven
switch and pc
your oven can probably run it
yeah my oven is pretty pog
I mean the system requirements are pretty standard
How does explosive fire interact with Spread Fire?
the bullets you shoot now explode
it spreads the expolsive
but the explosions are right next to you
Can I lose my own DD with Hazard bomb?
yes
Sweet
how are you supposed to get the something from everyone achievement? I have every keepsake but I dont have it
how many keepsakes do you have?
24
there are 25 keepsakes in the game
completed would be prophecy fufilled
you might have missed pats
i missed mine because his name was still ??? because i forgot to check the codex like 500 times after meeting him and ig the game never registered it
this is a good game
Woo another clear with an unexpected cast build
I only have two casts and it still somehow worked lol
Indeed
I’m at 162 and still playing, it’s awesome
enjoy
dayyyummmm
I got into Hades about 8 or so months ago and there was a big break from the game
10 moths
months
sorry
i started playing it january of 2020, so by the time the full game came out i was able to finish the story quickly
I have now completed 6 runs
You mean clears right?
yes
Oh cool I've only done 2 so far
how long have you been playing?
I'm on 29 attempts, uh I'd need to check
what would be your favorite weapon?
Spear for the moment tho I've really been neglecting the other weapons
Mine is the chaos shield
I have got some nasty setups with it before
Does forced labor or whatever the name is increase boss hp too?
It's not even the hp handicap lol
I meant the one with Fitness which gives +20%hp
It does increase Boss HP.
Regular enemy HP increase is barely noticable but Boss HP is tough
What's the effect of middle management
You can get to 6 Heat with Underworld Customs (2) + Tight Deadline (1) + EM2 (3) pretty safely.
PSA: Jury Summons and Calisthenics Program may look like free easy pacts but they are actually not. Especially Calisthenics Program, which is in the running for one of the worst pacts in the game. I’d highly suggest avoiding them until at least 34 heat. If you want advice on pacts, I can suggest a lot of easier pacts for lower heats
Never noticed the existence of underworld customs that's actually pretty easy
That requires you to finish inside of 36 minutes, beat 2 sightly harder bosses, and sell a boon after every biome (With Dark Foresight on that should be easy)
Turned on the security thing too but daddy's traps just oneshotted me in his 2nd phase (I was playing with one death defiance and he was almost dead)
It was a painful death
Heightened Security is awful
Em2 was kinda hard for me only did it once(and survived) but I don't think I'll get it consistently right away
I have only taken it to fulfill the Prophecy
for a short while, if you had ares special on the shield and you threw it, it did damage to you. it got a lot of reports and even some memes and was called the shieldbug.
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Its only affecting the traps right?
Yes but the multiplier is huge. So, things like Hades's Pots go from 30 to 150 damage.
I’m probably gonna actually make a heat wall in a little bit, going over how hard I think each pact is and what heat you should start considering them at.
Yeah that 150 shot hurt
What about damage control
Bad
That sounds like an easy handicap too it's only 1 hit more right?
The acorn is a really good keepsake, isnt it
Imagine you are giving every enemy a 2 charge acorn
It sucks
Wait.. That's terrible I won't be able to spawn trap my enemies if I take that
Damage Control is alright if you are doing the fist or the rail but it is pretty bad with slower weapon.
It's only 1 at lvl 1
Sword?
/stygius
Damage control is fine on some aspects (Eris rail with Zeus attack makes it do very little), but it’s still often doing more than it looks like it’s doing even with something like Chiron or Zeus shield
The sword is a slower weapon.
DC is pretty bad on sword, and absolutely god awful on Arthur
Dash attack spam with Hermes 5dash boon doesn't agree
It still attacks much slower than rail or fists 
Slower in terms of rate of fire not clear times.
It’s slower in terms of clear times as well tbh
True
What exactly does benefits package do
True, but the rate of fire is the important part for Damage Control.
That's what I meant Its fast as hell with the mentioned boon
Random Perks to your enemies, there is a list of them.
Yeah, i dont like damage control on any weapon
Still slower than the gun or malphon but it's decent
Not even Rama
hehehehe
Lightning Strike Eris rail? I guess it’s still pretty bad with your special
I don't like it either, pain pact
Still, DC is a necessary evil at higher heats unfortunately
If you increase the number of enemies, will the fight be longer or do you get sandwiched even harder
Both
Not really, I did 40 without it on 3 weps cuz I don't like it and the aspects I like don't agree with it
Man I'm trying to get Hades on my pc
IDK, I've never found HS or DC to be too bad, at least not with most melee aspects
Both my 50s are without DC
Is it just me or is EM Tisiphone hell?
Yeah not on every aspect but imo it’s definitely worth using on Rama or Eris past 32 heat
Hs isn't bad until you lose a run to a pot
I don’t really agree. Alecto is the hardest one anyway
The first fight is still ez on em imo but other handicaps are probably the reason why it's harder for you
Nah HS is really bad
This is so poop man
I'll try an 8heat run now let's see how far I can get
Weird question do you guys get hand cramps when playing Hades on switch?
On certain weapons yeah
I don't want to do that yet, I was thinking about doing a 0heat run with nothing but em4 (Ik that's not 0heat but I didn't know how to say it)
10 heat total
Ye I meant just em4, not go to 18 lol
Em4 is definitely worth a couple attempts
Hold on I just realized how amazing the synergy between cursed slash and flurry slash must be
Sounds doable
Give me Daedalus hammers, game
Not at the moment tho Im still dying to dad with no upgrades
Fair enough
Em4 is much tougher from start to finish
Did like 3 or 4 but I never got hit so Idk what happens
Wdym
That's it?
I got stuck on a pillar when fighting Theseus and Asterius and died
Yeah
So you just failed and thats it
You get mocked
Also Eurydice will tell you your breath stinks
That's asterius's Job tho
frick
N I C E
I had a good build too
Wait is the membership card permanent????
No
imagine if it was, and it stacked, you get 5 and you get free items forever
I didn't know they stacked tbh
wuttt, ngl i for sure assumed you merk him 1x and you get a membership card for the save file permenant. any future kills on him would just be a flex. silly me lmao
I don't know if they do
You can't fight him more than once
That was a hypothetical if it stayed forever but you could keep earning them each run
So they likely don't stack
Code probably just checks if you have it then multiplies shop prices by 0.8
Does middle management affect the Asterius fight? I always have MM on so I literally do not know if it’s different
It does not
Ok that’s what I thought, thanks
Just killed the bone hydra with 8 heat
But at what cost
The 3rd phase made me lose 2 charges of dd
wait until 16+ heat
Noooooo
winning on 32 heat is required if you wanna 100%
What’s your pact? Hard Labor?
Sounds like you took a lot more damage than you should
what room?
The other one is way too easy but this version is hard af
at first when i unlocked pact of punishment i was like “nope, not doing that”
but now i’m like “ooh, pact of punishment 👀”
Should've mentioned that lol
personally i find EM2 easier than the regular hydra battle
Lots of people do
Anyone a fan of Ice Wine? Got Achilles Spear build going and damn...surprised at how good it is
How-
it gives you more room to run about rather than just the half circle
But the lava-
just dash over it
you can take a couple steps in it before the damage starts ticking down
It's too tight with all the heads attacks and the lava at once
Thats why I'm messing up everything
fair
Can get pretty hectic with melee weapons
but also i may have an easier time because i’ve been playing the game for a while
Ranged weapons is always easy with hydra
Yes I got lucky
Found the depressed guy and Charon afterwards I have full hp(250) and 4 charges of dd now
I cleared it like 2 now lol
patroclus my beloved
That's how I deal with enemies which are too far away from the ground
once you get the mirror upgrades all the way up you’ll have an easier time
Did the champs too just now
I don't even have everything unlocked
Man, the hidden aspect on Varatha is rough if you aren't prepared
Lost all 4 of my DDs before I even got the the Hydra, but the hidden aspect makes Lernie an absolute joke (as if he wasn't already one before)
yea varatha’s hidden aspect is probably my least favorite ngl
I just need titan blood to unlock the hidden aspect for stygian
And then with the stygian hidden aspect, as shall get cursed slash and flurry slash
And Athena's call
And be genuinely unkillable
stygius hidden aspect is so op
That's exactly why I want it
if you match it with heartbreak strike it’s top tier
Butttt I've already done all the weapons (except for the final boss but I really don't enjoy the bow, and even then the only thing left to collect is final boss rewards, if I kill him with it)
So now I'm trying to beat the game with heat
divine strike is also really good
i don’t really like the bow either
doesnt work with my play style
Praying to all the gods that I find Patroclus this run
good luck
Ded
i now have 4 bonds
GGs
meg, hades, charon, and skelly
You really have to get specific Daedalus upgrades to make the hidden spear aspect work well
I hate this game now
mood
Without quick spin, it's incredibly difficult to use properly
I went from 3 to 8 heat and got to hades 2nd phase on my first try
I died due to a wave which hit me 3 times in a row cuz I dashed away from it
I would've survived easily if that didn't happen
My highest heat is 10. Havent even attempted 11 yet
increasing the heat levels when you are starting off should be pretty easy since they don't add much difficulty
had that before
my highest heat rn is 17
if you are dying because of a wave hitting you 3 times then I am wondering what you took
yeah
because whilst hades hits hard, I don't think 3 waves are going to make a massive impact alone unless you are running a lot of HL
No not 3 waves
That's the issue
I meant 3 wave hits
The same wave hit me 3 times cuz I was dashing away
they could have already used all their DD’s
Yeah I already got revived with my last dd a couple of moments ago when it happened
if hp is a problem i highly recommend using cerberus’ keepsake and leveling it up all the way
Should I die on purpose to give skelly another nectar?
There's a lock on the next heart it looks like it's unlocking the companion is that right?
Was using that at the beginning of the game
uhhh that should be it. see what boons you get first before giving up on the run
So it's already lvl 3
nice
skelly companion isn't the most useful
I don't think I'll have to check I want to go to bed soon
so I wouldn't be in a rush
I don't have any companions
And skelly is just a cool guy
yea skelly companion is alright
