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but yeah
Going into hades with the least DD’s I’ve ever gone in with, wish me luck bois
Idk what happened lol

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Me no buy rpg gaem me by rougelite gaem
Rofl nice
and you're telling us not to speak in a foreign language
He's just trolling
Yeah
I'm complaining
Well there's definitely a lot to complain about when you haven't invested the time to learn the game
Im trying not to be antagonistic but isn't complaining one of the most agreed upon things to be annoying?
That's the problem I have with people
They expect to be good at something without dedicating time to learn it
No u
and get mad when they're not a professional speedrunner who never gets hit or something
Haelian
Jokes aside my complaints were completely valid and have nothing to do with time investment
You're just being defensive
The nature of the combat and progression system won't magically transform after a certain number of hours
Actually it can
Not in this case
If you cant be bothered to git gid there is a magical button called "God Mode"
You can try getting better
and getting further into the game
and you will earn a good sum of rewards
to progress
and there's no denying that
The amount of rewards isn't the problem
I assumed you could read
- Yes, we're going to defend a game we like enough to be on a discord about
- Your complaints are valid for people who just aren't fans of the genre, progression and gameplay. Others do, that's OK.
You're complaining about the game requiring a high apm to play at the highest level
and also
that the game has too much progression?
what does that even mean
you wanna play this game for 3 hours and then not have anything to do after that?
On point 2. They are perfectly valid regardless of my genre preference
spending 25 dollars on a game just to cry because there isn't less content
You're not being pragmatic more isn't always better
you're quite the odd one
Ok then just personal game preference, maybe you're just impatient and want to have everything immediately?
you wish to pay for a game and hope that it has less to offer
I could sell pong to you for 60 dollars
bet you'd have a blast with that one
I didn't mean impatient in an offensive way btw it's just how some ppl are
I prefer my rouglites more rougelike than rpg like
All in all after all the high praise it's incredibly disappointing most especially the combat
Ok, if you don't like a game, you don't have to come and be immature about it to the fans of it. I don't like Genshin: Impact but I won't go on the official discord and say all the problems I have with it
Don't take this the wrong way it was not my intention to digress I'm honestly here to improve my gameplay and learn more about the game
This argument just kind of happened
You think you can enjoy the combat tho later down the line?
The combat probably feels better on controller
coming from someone who prefers to use mouse and keyboard on every single game
If the button mashing is a result of the lack of skill most likely
Hopefully though because I'm actually not bad at the game
I'm losing my mind rn because Hermes gave me a boon which gives me three extra dashes so know I have five dashes
The final boss is so lucky I haven't got an Athena boon for this entire run, and I'm in the final area now, no sign of her
If I got divine dash I would be genuinely unkillable
if you ever do a blade rift dash build at some point for fun
it's non stop dashing
and pretty good damage tbh
Hoping Dionysus gives me the dash hangover boon rn
...
i think i accidentally pressed give up instead of quit
had a legendary fish too 

yknow originally i hated stubborn defiance over death defiance.. but ive done really well every time ive used SD
stubborn is good for high heat
^
What's the difference between stubborn and death defiance?
Stubborn replenishes 30% and you can only have one but it replenishes after a chamber when used
The main problem is you don't have any extras for bosses
DD is 3 that replenish 50% and can be replenished through kiss of styx or athena
Oooo I'm gonna have to try stubborn
Lernie!
stubborn is only better if youre dying a lot in regular rooms
SD has a neat interaction with athena refill too
If you use SD and then get the Athena replenish you can replenish SD in a different slot and have 2!
three death defiances is 150% hp in healing so thatd be 5 stubborn procs
The metric doesn't translate so easily
need as many DD as possible for ||Hades||
50% x3 = 150% | 30% x5 = 150%
You don't need to spoiler
I mean, the game is called Hades lol
Why wouldn't he be a big part of the game..?
Mod is typing 
He does need to spoiler final boss name in the new players chat that’s it
while this channel doesnt require spoiler tags, its still alright to spoiler tag if you want. also, if youre a new player, you might want to hang out in #h1-for-new-players, where the terminology might be more friendly
I was just saying since it's just so slightly more to type :)
Strange
About the hidden aspect for the eternal spear, how do I get Achilles go say the waking phrase? I've spent more than 5 titan blood on aspects other than Aspect of Zagreus, but he still hasn't said it. I'm not sure what to do.
Unfortunately it's just rng
Ah, i see
If I'm not wrong, you just have to reach Hades, and spend the blood
This waking word is fun just wait until you try and get Chaos to say it 
Ohhhh
I think I can do that rn then
I just so happen to have 2 titan blood because I cleared all the way through Elysium (died to hades) and then I bought another with the ambrosia
I love how the rewards reset when you beat the levels with new aspects
whut? they do (rewards resetting) ?
rewards are per weapon, not per aspect
yea, that's what I thought
I mean, I just bought new aspects today and each time I used a new one, I got rewards like I had never done it before
Maybe it's bugged
maybe you had heat on
you might need to talk to Achilles in another run, anyway
Oh yeah it's cause heat I think
So what happens if I overdo the heat gauge? I'm curious
nothing special
I think you get the rewards for the lowest heat you haven't done
^
thanks! im super excited for the legend of vox machina
Man Chaos fish just don't pop up
Yeah I only have one
In Codex?
Yea
I go to chaos all the time but i can never get a fish
Same
Usually once or twice a run
And I have everything else, I just need these last 2 fish but they don't pop up
Yeah
Erebus and Loyalty card took a while but
Stupid fish. Running out of things to do with resources too
As you are transitioning into the heat levels, would you recommend just swapping through all the weapons for each level, or taking the time to climb with 1-2 weapons you like more? I'm back after a long absence, maybe I need to relearn with some consistency
dealer's choice tbh
sometimes youll want to grind your good weapons
sometimes youll try some new things
i got all the way to 9 heat on the rail before i beat it with any other weapons
holy crap
i just got a room... with a trial of the gods. an erebus gate, a chaos gate, and an infernal trove
that’ll happen haha
awee Tis almost said Zagreus
oh man this is painful x.x
im doing an Eris run with all the opposite Mirror mods that i normally use
one dash suuuuuuuucks
but i have athena's dash rn so deflecting counts as a near miss which gives my eris even more damage buffs

also i may or may not have over 120% damage bonus on my attacks from 2 chaos boons lol
almost died to Tis but i was being reckless lol so im still at 3 DDs
look aggressively for hermes
extra dashes are a godsend with ruthless reflex
i got him in the room before Tis. but the best thing he had was Side Hustle. which with golden touch might actually be great once i reach the temple
It'll be great if you spent as little as possible, yeah
Doing the prophecy, I presume
yeah. with eris i think i can manage not buying EVERY centaur heart he has lol
yeah
instead of doing it piecemeal i decided fuggit and legit just swapped all the ones i havent done before. which was like half my stuff
Remember to manage your cast well
It's wonky to keep looking at your cast to see how much till the next one regens, but you'll get used to it
And uh don't get hit, I suppose
Those are the main things when doing this sorta thing
i cant even remember all the ones im using but its like 70% different from what i normally do. thank god ive already done stubborn defiance (by accident) or this would be a nightmare
oh yeah in the second run i accidentally had it on i got him and saw that item i was like YOOO chooses immediately
although i never got to use it xD
Godly builds do that, carries you
that run i managed to go through the entire run and my only death was on hydra cuz i stepped in magma one too many times. well him and hades
i actually really like SD tbh. takes the pressure off of dying and not going "well crap im out of DDs so i probly wont kill hades"
i usually bring my lucky tooth with me to styx if im on a particularly hard run or if im down to one DD. and with SD as long as i dont get slammed in the satyr tunnels i have two guaranteed for Hades
DAMNIT HERMES GIVE ME ANOTHER DASH ILL TAKE IT EVEN IF ITS COMMON PLEASE
another important tip: if you have athena boons already, and you lose your SD charge in a room, athena's death defiance boons give you an extra standard DD
so you can theoretically have SD, tooth and athena
you will only get the athena defiance if your stubborn defiance charge is used
eh, youll be fine. it is good to know for high heat since the meta there is lasting consequences maxed out and stubborn defiance to heal
like i was hyped i timed myself getting blown up by an elysium shade eyeball ghost thing right as the room ended
for a net like
20 hp recovery
splash dash on eris ❤️
no ik
he didnt give me the dash
oceans bounty sunken treasure or poseidons aid
all epic lol
as much as id love to just get tons of obol.. i think im gonna go with the aid
plus i might get lucky and get rip current which is my last boon i need from him to have gotten them all
Poseidon’s aid is great
yeah but idve preferred the dodge lol ive seen its power
Panic button that also can do like, a thousand damage per use
Hades about to spin? Poseidon call
Five dudes all up in your business? Surf away and smack em hard on the way out
You can pretty reliably get two hits in on a quarter bar, and if you get rip current that becomes 3
OH COME ON
im so angry
got Pos to give me Tidal Dash. but i have to pick it over Sea Storm
is it worth it? cuz i really dont know
ill get more use out of tidal dash but like.... sea storm o.o my call will be so good if i use greater call
gahhhh
i cant pick they are both so good T.T
Did you decide yet?
In case you weren't aware, the dash was better there
Deals more damage over a longer amount of time and if you manage to get another zeus/pos boon in the future then your dash would be an activator for sea storm
Sea storm on just call is bad, and splash dash on ruthless reflex isn't great
i mentioned it in builds. i shoulda said it in there anyway xD
im still deliberating in my head lol
Better than the alternative
cuz splash dash isnt that great with just one dash AND id be removing my deflect dash
im gonna get Sea Storm and just sell it when i get the chance o.o
if i dont get the chance, eh i got 40 more damage on my call.
idk what Eris's buff would do to that mathematically, but slightly better? lol
oop nother question for builds o.o
wait...
um
youre supposed to max out 6 of the olympians to advance the story right?
How do I give hades the second gift
clear the game 10 times then talk to him two separate times after that i believe
I’m on my way to get clear 10, how convenient
well then i accidentally spoiled something. good luck tho
but uh yeah
i only have 5 maxed o.o
i still need Athena, Aphrodite, Demeter, and Hermes. and im getting the epilogue stuff about inviting them all over
I’m assuming that’s stuff after 10 clears?
technically after 10 clears youll have "beaten" the story, but the epilogue requires you to befriend every olympian to some degree basically
aphro is hard to do, demeter just needs till the locked heart so go for that
Athena is RNG
no ik what they are
im saying i got it early
for the epilogue you only need
Zeus
Poseidon
Athena
Artemis
Ares
and Dionysus
Good luck! The Queen's plan will be set into motion very soon
and i never got athena and its still giving it to me
Concentrated Volley or Relentless Volley more important to get first on Chiron bow? (Dionysus spec Aphrodite atk build)
Whichever is +4 arrows
oki
yeah more arrows is always good on chiron lol
Demeter counts as being at max when you get her to the locked heart
exactly what I was saying about dem
i misread you sorry lol
Not to also mention a Low Tolerance build always wants more arrows (even if you maxed out the bow)
Concentrated volley will give you waaaaay more damage
80 -> 164 instead of 80 -> 120 with relentless
Concentrated is the one that gives +5 per arrow hit, right?
+3
yep ty
For all of the arrows to hit, you need to actually point at the enemy
Well yeah, but that's how you should be playing Chiron anyway
Relentless is more forgiving
Not to mention blocking just an arrow or two will massively reduce damage
+3 base damage so it does a heck of a lot for chiron
sigh i feel like the wiki should have a page for all of the Themes, with a preview of every one.
i just wanna see what they look like T.T
look in #h1-victory-boasting
TBH we should pin one victory for each of the themes
oh is it only the victory screen?
id hoped it changed the boon page when selecting boons
if someone can give me a picture of every theme i will just go make the wiki page myself xD
yeah iirc it's victory screen and your boon menu
so it doesnt change the boon choice screen?
Give me like half an hour
Need to beat dad for some time
DMs?
i will greatly appreciate that yeah
lemme give you a FR
sorry my settings are to prevent my ex from messaging me
okay nevermind i cant add you
you add me maybe?
Sent
Question: why not block your ex?
he's made dummy accounts before and messaged me with them
Oh
after the third one i just set it so non-friends cant message me
Fair enough
Quick question before I go beat dad's ass multiple times - you unlock all the themes once and that's it, right? No further unlockable themes?
afaik yeah they all unlock at once
Infernal
Sonorous
Stygian
Lovely
Woodland
Chthonic
Deathly
Infinite
(not sure where to post this) hey yall im a boomer who played this game in early access, can someone remind me of what the difference is ebtween vulkan and directX on launch thru steam?
Just pointing out that if you don't get the help you need, you should ask in #h1-tech-support
Good luck!
Oh gods, editing a Fandom Wiki looks way more imposing than a normal wiki page o.o Im sure ill figure it out. It may not be the prettiest thing but its info that should be out there for players
Fandom wiki looks awful and idk why gamepedia format wasn't chosen when they merged. My guess is because the fandom format had more ads
okay this is actually a bit easier than i thought
just wish the damn icons werent vaguely the same color as the backdrop for adding stuff o.o
oh Defiance. you can probly get the standard boon menu picture from the first room, but if you could get one of each of the boon menus, and the victory screen.
and if the boon choice menus are also a thing id need one of those too.
im just gonna make a table going
Name Cost Boon Menu Example Victory Screen Example
dang
well thats good. i wont have to adjust the table i already made xD
Eventually im gonna have to figure out how to add the icons from the game into the text but just the text and the pictures will serve its purpose. people also dont need links to every resource needed. Itd just make it look nice and professional xD
Do chaos gates change if you give up? (i know RNG is supposed to "stay" if you give up)
giving up only keeps the very first room and maybe the 2nd room
everything after that deviates from the seed
Lol i gave myself a dumb nickname
Crap i mighta did something o.o now i kinda wanna make that my psn ID
lemme know what you guys think o.o
the only isue i ran into was for some reason it wouldnt let me put the icons for the resources next to the name for some unknown reason
actually lemme try something
okay it looks better now. although i had to remake the table cuz one edit made the whole thing have an aneurysm
btw if editing that damn table is anything like working with excel i understand peoples pain if only a little
looks good, one thing of note, the requirements of the themes showing up are on this page https://hades.fandom.com/wiki/House_Contractor
The House Contractor, at the desk to the right of Lord Hades. The House Contractor, located in the main hall of The House of Hades, is a shade given the task of restoring and repairing the Underworld by Lord Hades. It is one of the main meta progression systems in Hades (the other being the Mirror of Night.)
Zagreus may pay the Contractor G...
which is have bought all other (non-theme) work otders
and for woodland specifically have > 3000 unspent darkness
Is it normal to not get ANY boons?
it's certainly possible. some people do it on purpose
The last 5 or more runs have been all gems,money,or darkness
I’m definitely not as I’m still waiting for the game to allow me to finish it
So this is making it even worse
Game is wearing out its welcome that’s for sure
Anyone else noticed Theseus' tunic hangs off his right shoulder on the sprite and left shoulder in his art?
are you running dark foresight on the mirror?
Is that the one that increases its chances?
increases the chances of rewards that will affect your run
also I'd recommend taking a break if you're getting sick of it... everyone will still be there when you come back
It’s so weird playing a game and not being able to finish
I don’t like doing that. When I start a gme, I play to completion
Once I stop, I won’t come back
Absolutely loved the game but man did they really pad this out for no reason
skill
well they can't pace it well for everyone, you know. people have wildly different skill levels
But seriously, pick up dark foresight and keepsake of your choice
You can beat the game pretty handily with a maxed mirror
I get it for the niche audience that does speedrun and will only play this game 24/7 but for people trying to enjoy the gme start to finish this is unbearably padded
Lol
I’ve beating the game a lot
I’m talking bout 100% achievements
LMAO
Get the epilogue etc
You do realize 100% achievements is hard for a reason, right?
I do
Most games work that way
eh the hardest stuff doesnt have an achievement for a reason
Lmao
they made 100% achievements easier than it could have been by quite a bit
32 heat is arguably the hardest one
There is a difference between hard thst difficult andn”hard” tht just time consuming
For a game built around RNG I'd say it's surprisingly forgiving
I’m only talking about the rng dialogue
100% achievements isnt hard either, the only one that really takes any time is the max all keepsakes
The rest happen pretty quick
I could careless about all the others random stuff
100%ing this game would take 100 hours, I think, from start to finish and looking at the wiki
Nah
ive never had over 3000 unspent darkness and i havent bought every other work order and i have them unlocked
It’s around 60/80
so those arent accurate
If you go for it its not that long
you do gotta do 10 wins, and however more it takes to get the epilogue, but I feel like the main story isn't especially long, and there's a lot to do in the meantime
almost like its a rougelite or something
I know
Again, I’m almost at 80hrs in. I get it
Almost like the whole point of the game is repetition
if you're constantly aware of all the dialogue rng hooks you're waiting for, it makes you feel really unlucky. I never looked up any hidden aspect requirements and I stumbled into all of them
crazy innit
the only downside to playing on ps4 ill never know how many hours ive sunken into it
there's a possibility the requirements have changed since themes were first introduced
probly
I think this might be an inherent conflict in the way you approach games and the roguelike genre. That's not to say the way you play isn't valid, but it doesn't mesh well with games that are intended to be evergreen (or semi-evergreen in this case). Getting everything is supposed to take a while so players have long term goals to chip away at.
Crazy how condescending this room can be
I actually play quite a few games and very much like rogues
we're just used to giving advice round here, sorry if that's not what you were looking for
But your not
I also apologize if I came off as condescending, period.
Comes off as people Just getting defensive over their perfect game
Look I love the game, doesn’t mean I can’t criticize
Nor does it all the sudden make me a noob to gaming or the genre
it sounded like you were asking for help, I'm sorry
I wasn’t specifically speaking to you, no need to say sorry. The other guys chimed in with their smart a** remarks
alright
No need to be rude to people just trying to be helpful. You can say you're not looking for help without insulting people.
I only became defensive after the rude comments above. What are you talking bout?
Alright, give it a rest
They were literally being incredibly condescending.
it took me exactly 120 runs (some were suicide runs) to reach the "Invite" phase
Thank you
Surprisingly quick
I guess that's what happens when you aim for the epilogue
Helpful information @umbral whale
Far quicker than I did, anyhow
it would honestly be less than 100 if i didnt mess around and stuff
isnt there a way
um its not really helpful tbh nor is it accurate
as far as i know no
ik there is on xbox should be the same on ps4
cuz i didnt JUST do suicide runs to advance story i did some of them to try and complete prophecies and i also wasted a few runs just blindly running with a new aspect xD
actually lemme see what my first clear was
u did suicide runs
i did about 15 of them just to unload nectar to max out the gods
my 24th run was my first successful escape attempt
actually i can tell you exactly how many suicide runs i did
45 runs were suicide runs in total. whether to advance story, or advance character dialogues for aspects
lol my first ever run i died to a bloodless in tartarus 5:27. my only boons were Deadly Strike and Phalanx Shot
bloodless in tartarus ..?
thats what it says in the archives
actually yeah what the hell?
arent bloodless only in asphodel?
y
o.o maybe they have them in your first run?
Of the same opinion
I'm fairly sure this is an actual meme speedrun category for Hades
7 seconds baybeeeeee
i could be faster but the enemy that spawned was a wringer x.x
ok i dont think anyone could beat 4 seconds without cheating o.o
RI4 HL4 FO3?
and hope that you get something that can one shot you in the first room
i swear to god there is a codeline somewhere in this game files that can make spawn patroclus only if i have all of my death defiance and its making me lose my mind
haha
Does the charon trinket work on the items patroclus gives you?
Keepsake i mean
i don't really know i've been using skelly's tooth
It doesnt
Imagine if charon keepsake gave you more duration of rooms for your patroclus hydra lite
Or even the jerky
23 chambers with kiss of styx dark
i mean, unless you get turbo sacked in styx it usually carries over to hades anyway
i have been avoiding the rail because it SOUNDS weak, is there a mod to make it sound cooler?
Does anybody else find Thanatos' 'help' annoying? Like, it makes the room takes 2x-3x as long and you end up losing more HP than usually
the time doesnt even count
in game time doesnt, but real life time does
🗿
Thanatos is helping because there are so many more enemies than normally, not the other way around.
playing on a tight schedule are we
not really, i just find a bit annoying
Maybe, but that's just the game justifying Thanatos mechanic
Well, it's a challenge room. But you get a better reward.
YO WTF
And I don't end up losing more HP than usual.
2x0 is still 0. 
He doesn't want the smoke
I guess what I am saying is should be a room you can most times opt in, like Mini-boss rooms, or something. Not all times avoidable, but still
But then it wouldn't be too different from a miniboss. It's supposed to be distinct from that.
You could just as well run into a fountain and get a free room instead.

Hey! I didn't ask for his help!
So you want to fight all the extra enemies by yourself, without his help, without the opportunity for +25 max HP?
Wait credits are rolling
No, no extra enemies

Finally a game
with an ending
that doesn't make me mad
can't wait for anyone who has yet to finish it gets to experience the story
Just to be clear, I'm not saying I don't like it, just a bit annoying is all, if it was a choice I'd still choose it sometimes, just not always
bro why is chaos offering me defiance with cast damage curse when im running hunting blades
not cool
Sounds like a Chaos thing to do. 
Should I focus on maxing my mirror or maxing my Eris first?
I hate that Megagorgon miniboss
if by maxing mirror you mean maxing both sides not really
easier to just level up you weapons on the meantime
you'll get darkness as collateral anyway
I'll just bully Hades with my fists until I have enough blood to max out my Eris and then I'll focus on mirror
oh nvm can't post pics here
I don't like the megagorgon on mm, that shockwave is a pain
chaos has the nerve to roast me after that one
Deserved, should have just not died 

😼
If you just don't get hit then you don't die
If you hit your shots and don't get hit you can't lose
why is talos pull so wonky jesus
hades power scaling
Dad keepsake pog
Time to speedrun
When you create a new save, there's an option you can check that says youll start with pact of punishment. Does that option also increase the general difficulty, or does it just make the beginning harder?
Hell Mode is a harder difficulty option that may be selected when creating a new save file. This option cannot be changed later and disables God Mode from use. Selecting Hell Mode has Zagreus start the game with the Pact of Punishment immediately in use. The Pact of Punishment has five mandatory conditions with one Hell Mode exclusive condition,...
Thanks
makes it harder by adding 5 perma heat
and it isn't particularly easy heat either
calisthenics is pretty bad to have at all times
run 5 labor and pray you dont get touched basically
doesnt work
you just get nothing
Oh
hell mode is a pain if you are aiming for optimal pact setups or speedrun times so not the best pick for a main profile
you can stack billowing however
not much i feel
How many hours do you guys have in this game? If it's over 100, what do you guys do to keep you engaged with the game?
FO1 DC2 TD1 EM1 for 7 heat, easy enough right?
i mean how much heat is em3
Pom blossom seems like a really good keepsake to take
6
EM3 is 6
run em3 td1 or something
who the sexiest character
lout
Dusa 

Dionysys
Is it even a question?
DIONYSYS
How can you see Dusa
sleeping on than
And still go with Dio
Hmm, TIL of Hell Mode. I'd like to try but having to start over having spent so much time in this save makes me lazy
homeboy spelt Dionysus wrong
the elysium bull kinda
Mess with the bull you get the co-
8 keys for the paws
Doesn't seem worth it
Does it just do more damage
Is other weapon, and you need to unlock all for the aspects
lol paws
Do you guys prefer Death Defiance or Stubborn Defiance ?
depends on the run
I like both
deth in most cases
stubborn only when im doing LC4
👍
Sure, I have more than I know what to do with.
thanks
Would 30 suffice?
yes
mfw
I'll need your social security number to make the transaction.
(Please don't post your social security number.
)
my social security number is
4
Tough decision here
but for aspect of rama
triple shot, point blank, or double shot?
triple shot seems like it would be the best if I can land all 3 point blank
Okay. The 30 Titan Blood should be in your account in the next 12 months.
but idk if the others are just better in some way
so point blank is best as your 3rd daed
Point-Blank is definitely not the pick here.
yes
Twin and Triple are the best hammers for Rama.
i'd go for twin shot
Well not the pick for my second
aight bet
twin shot hasn;t let me down yet
Also question
can fidi petrify hades?
No.
:(
Also you know that you've gotten better at itemization with your main weapon when you never have anything worth selling
I don't understand this statement
Does anyone know how to get the antos companion I am having trouble
I certainly don't know how to get the companion you're looking for but I do know a way you could help yourself
Companion Antos is obtained by reaching a high level of trust with Achilles, and then gifting him Ambrosia.
Using Antos in battle will summon Achilles and Patroclus to aid you. They will appear briefly and deal 1500 damage to 2 foes one after the other.
Antos cannot be used outside of combat encounters or while fighting Hades. Hades will eventua...
Yooo a hades discord let's gooooo
Greetings
Honestly buck wild how big of a step up Hades is from Bastion
Don't get me wrong bastion was fine!
Short though, and the weird ability to break all kinds of structures and pots without getting anything from doing so was unsatisfying
So the ability to get coins from pots in Hades? And how destroying structures can set off traps? Now that's good stuff
I love how if a rock from the ceiling hits a trap and you dont destroy the rock it keeps the trap triggered so it wont trigget again lol
interesting
Bastion is a 9 year old game, but can still feel it in hades a bit
@umbral whale ooo that's never happened to me!
Oh really, it's that old? Wow
What's the other game they've made?
If you played all of their games you can see the ideas they kept from each one in hades
I've never played Transistor, how is it?
Bastion, Transistor, Pyre, and Hades
Never played Pyre, either!
Amazing story, fun gameplay. And its the only game ive cared about enough to platinum
Platinum? Wym. Like getting all achievements?
Plus the soundtrack oml. But thats every SGG game
Yeah on psn if you get every trophy ingame you get the Platinum for that game
Pyre is their least popular of the 4 games but i personally LOVED it
pyre is magic basketball and i love it
I just didnt platinum it cuz activating all the titan stars was just frustratingly hard xD
Interesting. Magic basketball? Seems quite different haha
As i say to my friends, Pyre is Cultists Basketball with a hint of overthrowing evil government lol
Wild
They all sound worth checking out!
And I love how it seems that you can tell how they evolve, at least from what yall are saying
Growthhhhh
They are. Bastion is the only one i dont personally own but my buddy gameshared it to me a while back. It was fun
Like, if they ever make like another game after Hades I can only imagine how it'd be
Bastion is cool enough
Haven't played the others to compare
Bastion story was neat iirc
I think my main gripe was simply the unsatisfyingness of being able to destroy lots of stuff but without any benefit lol
Otherwise I was an okay game
Honestly I haven't felt as passionate about a Rouge like or w/e Hades is, since like... Over a decade ago with A Wizard's Lizard
And AWL's story wasn't REMOTELY as good lol
Transistor is basically: you have a sword capable of stealing and digitizing souls and containing them within it, and your boyfriend was the first to get his soul taken from it saving you from being killed, but the trauma made you lose your voice (and youre a singer) so you take the sword and go try to stop an evil group from wiping the city off the face of the earth.
Also each soul you get gives you new powers. But if you play recklessly you can lose those powers
Also the sword talks throughout the game
In your BFs voice
I thought I was much father along, but coming back after 6 months I see that besides my shield at 6, my head levels are all still 2-4. I guess 60 hours in and I still have plenty to go.
I did play a bit of bastion, but only a few hours
Hell yeahhh
@static holly head levels? Oh, heat?
Lol I'm still at 1 on most weapons
Head levels gud
I've only beaten 1 heat on I think the spear? Idk
I call it head levels now
Hey its odd there's no vcs lol
The first level of tight deadline is pretty easy
Would be cool
I go for the 20% more enemies usually!
Niceee
Wow, someone just did sub 10 on 50 heat
"The Chiron guy" if anyone knows them by that name
😔
wait what 
Send help, please.
<@&456908176877551658> sorry for the @ but i have a question, or a suggestion/request I guess?
yeah, dm me!
Hey, sup?
A few VCs would be really really nice. Maybe limited to 10-15 people each? Or have one for smaller groups and one for larger? Just so we can talk and stream our runs to each other!
It think it'd be super fun
Nope.
magnil?
Very hard to moderate given that there are thousands of people on this server
Yep
We had voice chats when the server was first made; they were impossible to moderate then and would be worse now with thousands of users.
voice chats are notoriously difficult to moderate
There are 66k
Dhdhdhshshshshshshs christ
That is a lot
Wow
Yeah no freaking wonder
time to fight boatman in an attempt to skip ares 
I heard you can do that but never tried!
Good luck
Yeah, the user list on the right is set up to only show online people.
Skip ares?
So yeah, no, sorry! VC ain't happening.
How do you trigger the fight? Do you just keep attacking him?
Take his sack of gold
borrow money from him
No no dw yall dang 19k online 70k overall, that is wild and entirely understandable
keep in mind he's gonna take your life as collateral
Well, naturally
He is a shopkeeper after all
Shopkeepers are notoriously op
Sack of gold... Hmm
1 dd gone lmao
tartarus fight?
How much gold this man carry?
the fact this is tartarus with high confidence doesnt help
And do you still get the stuff?
Probably not the wisest idea yeah
The sack has 300 gold and a 20% discount voucher if you win
Ah, not worth it this run then
you have to buy anything you want from the shop before the fight though
Don't wanna throw away my decent sword build this run
If I had a crap run then maybe just for giggles
since it throws you into the next chamber immediately after
at least im using shield lol
charon
I found Charon way harder
Charon hits like a truck
As expected
charon without certain pacts
and doesnt like telegraphing his moves
I'd be disappointed if he wasnt
Do you only get the 20% off during that run? Or does it carry?
only that run
2 dd lost to charon lmao
300 gold just doesn't seem worth it lol
if i dont skip ares this is pain
I mean, maybe if you got an achievement idk
More than worth it if you learn his moves
one factor that makes him harder than hades is that you won't have as many boons when you fight charon
Wym skip ares I'm confused
300 gold is a lot, and you get 20% off for the rest of the run
300g +20% discount is significant
a lot of the attacks are quite easy to dodge
Skip an ares boon, they meant
especially if you fight him in asphodel or elysium
ares was the next chamber reward and i dont want him in this build
Ares kinda cringe
oh got artemis instead, epic
Eh, maybe. But sometimes you can get Hermes 10 gold per room esp combined with a chaos bonus gold boon, and you're p good for the run
And combine that with the 15% mirror bonus between worlds
Side hustle reduces your chances of rush delivery though
Adds up decently
and thats cringe!
Rush delivery? Remind me
there is also a prophecy that involves defeating him
more damage based on move speed
twice in a row
Trying to remember if I've gotten that once
asides from that I only really did it for buying diamonds/titan bloon
Lol so you can best him multiple times a run?
what are you talking about
you need movement speed for rush delivery
Yeah I generally save up for final Charon diamond/titan
Ambrosia can be tempting too
and thats a 50% chance
Just cuz trading
no, I think it's just 2 consecutive wins VS him, not in the same run
who? charon? no
I've only met him in Tartarus, when I barely have any boons 😦
thats not a problem if you use hestia
or things like rama ig
Shoot I forget what Hestia is... I've used it before
aaaand i got forced ares anyways
Who rama

hestia is high damage after reloading
rama is hidden aspect of the bow
How is that boon? I've debated it
Aspect I mean
Hestia
I usually have stuck to the one that has you absorb the special
Hestia is Barett M82 .50 caliber sniper rifle
eris will probably do more damage but hestia is a lot safer
Lucifer
Why's it safer? Ah, less having to approach the enemies?
since you only fire one shot every few seconds you can move for most of the time
Hestia sounds slow ngl
with other aspects, you are still ranged but you have to be still whilst attacking which means you need to rely more on dashes for dodging
fo2? more like free jolted spam 
Fo2?
Emm.. I have a problem? Or i don't know how it can be works
Sea-God's spite from the fated list
What about it?
I killed champions with extreme methods.
Met Poseidon after that and nothing.
You need the dialogue from Poseidon then an em3 win and then talk to Poseidon again. I think if you lose to em3 again in between u have to retry but not positive
I use keepsakes after beating them to meet Poseidon
I think like many things it falls to rng now
I had the Poseidon dialogue in the beginning of my next run, in my case
after beating the champions
poseidon aid is fun
no rip current or smoldering sadly
|| after many a days and nights my family is finally whole ||
A perhaps stupid question, and maybe it's spoilers but... Is Zag the God of anything specific?
Like how posiedon is water n sea
My guess would be something like a God of mercy
Zag specifically is against the idea that he is
I don't think he is
Interesting
Achillies seems to have an idea
he's just a Prince
He is a God
I really love Zag
Such a just, good dude
Sees someone suffering and is immediately like "okay how can I help?"
There's some in game dialogue if you talk to thanatos and achillies
Neat
Maybe I haven't enough?
I really gotta start nectaring up thanatos when I can
I try to, I just don't se ehim often
Check your codex last line of thanatos
and you have to nectar him before talking to him, too (which I just learned)
Sometimes he sticks around but he's kinda touchy
Once you fill the codex entry you'll get your answer
Does the career opportunity mean that supergiant is working on more content 👁️👁️
Hey guys, I've been playing for a few days now and finally got the true ending, but I can't seem to continue deepening Achilles's relationship, I've got ambrosia and I've talked to him whenever possible but it's not prompting me like it did with skelly
I thought so but even they don't have anymore to say
Yea, a few times and seemed to have exhausted all dialog with them
how many hearts you have with nyx?
you need her at 5 at least to continue their quest
Ahhhh ok
also you have access to the admin chamber?
Also I know they probably won't but I'd love to see an update adding one or two new weapons, like I would love to see us able to use thanato's scythe
Yea
I also still need to unlock two hidden aspects but I'm trash with the bow and fists
Use Chiron for the bow, impossible to be trash with that
finally got the bond with hermes
Does chaos aspect get any better with upgrades? It seems barely different than regular aegis.
I have it at level three and the extra shields barely do anything
Also recently got all bonds and three starred all the trinkets! That's a LOT of work! XD
Still gotta upgrade the plushies, whatever they're called. Battie and Mort and all them
nice
It's pretty nuts with special boons from Zeus or Ares. Since it triggers on all hits.
finally got epic rd again
Okie, thanks
That's the tracking special attack yea?
So, why is it impossible to delete a save slot
Like, I delete it cool, then when I start the game again it's just sitting there, menacingly
lol
i have wondered that as well..
could it be some sort of easter egg? Like it is never dead (unless you rewrite it)
smthing weird with cloud saves?
this potential bug has been here at least since 1.0 released tho
i got the game on 1.0 on steam was there
now i came back to it on ps4 and it is here
It works for me on the switch
hmm, the plot thickens
Maybe it’s the way you’re dressed
The skelly tooth?
No.. statue..
Huh how you get that?
Beat the Big Man on 8 heat
O
I thought "this is a joke, I'll unlock the second thing, its probaly a crazy weapon or someting". It wasn't. Fingers crossed for the third one.
🪦
So do I need to give achillies a bunch of nectar to get him to give me the release phrase? Ive had like 15 clears on this save, put like 6-7 blood into every weapon type and I just cant get this hidden aspect part rolling
you need to unlock 5 aspects that arent zagreus aspects
done did that
and you need to fight the final boss at least once (outcome is irrelevant), and acquire the fated list
after that its just dialogue rng
Coronactht best weapon
Remember gamers
when you make a mistake and you're about to lose your streak
alt F4
because you're the better player for outplaying the game
thinking it can take away your beautiful streak
lol
Get money instead
ahh ok ty
considering you could farm streaks with heat 0, meh
ive got like 35 plus blood invested across the board of all weapons. beat dad 15 times, fated list list is like 60% finished. I just dont understand why this isnt moving forward
Did you talk to him between runs? You have to talk enough to people to reach certain things and unlock stuff.
How do you unlock the 4th aspects?
Sink Titan Blood into Varatha and wait for Achilles to give you the phrase to unlock the aspect
After that, do it for all your other weapons
Achilles won't be giving you the awakening phrase though
It varies per weapon
I talk to everyone between every run
Hell, Chaos gives you the phrase for the shield
No. You have to unlock 5 non-Zag aspects, fight Hades at least once, and then get the waking phrase from Master Achilles to unlock the hidden spear.
All the requirements for each hidden aspect are pinned in #h1-story-discussion.
So what characters are just like "nice weapon bro but it could be better"
After putting blood in
Oh
Nvm thanks
I got twin shot point blank shot aphro attack on rama and i still didn't really like it
just got killed by ||charon||
That’ll happen. Strong guy
does more damage than final boss haha
yep
If I called this game one of the best games of all time, would I be off base? I’m seriously addicted to it
Which weapon is Rama?
rama is the bow
it is the hidden aspect btw
It's accurate
A lot slower and far more predictable though
Tried that once, sent me back to the house
what happens when you buy the 300$ pomegranate
Double pom
wait
i mean if you have no boons
how much money do you get
i know the 100$ one gives you like 300$ if you have no boons
wait what, poms give you money if you have no boons? I have 400hrs into the game betwwen steam and ps5 and I literally never knew this
ive gotten a 2 sack 3x in a row
yep and im in the middle of a lucky shattered shackles run where i got to purge all my boons and the last styx room was a pomegranate that gave me 400 obols
oh and i have the blade with the %5 for total obols dmg
so
what does boiling blood do
50% more damage with special/attack when you get a cast stuck on an enemy, ||hades version increases the damage you receive by 100%||
oh i tought this was new player ww, eh whatever
is there a way to check how many times ive won
oh wait
wait actually yeah is there
Yeah. You gotta pay for it
administrTive chamber right?
Something like that
where in the administrative chamber?
one of the two stacks you can check
Sometimes you gotta let the chicks fly from the nest.
Win again and the victory screen shows you how many wins u got
Athena way cooler
Watch courtenberry's clip titled ""Hello hello, little godlings. I am the main character.""
Lol we all simp for aphrodite uwu
is darkness from troves affected by the poseidon/chaos boons or dark thirst?

