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brisk trail
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I mean that's every single game

brisk trail
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but yeah

limber fossil
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Going into hades with the least DD’s I’ve ever gone in with, wish me luck bois

mint coral
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Idk what happened lol

brisk trail
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Too much button mash

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This game is all button mash

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Too much progression

soft echo
brisk trail
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Me no buy rpg gaem me by rougelite gaem

brisk trail
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and you're telling us not to speak in a foreign language

viral fable
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He's just trolling

soft echo
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Yeah

brisk trail
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I'm complaining

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Well there's definitely a lot to complain about when you haven't invested the time to learn the game

soft echo
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Im trying not to be antagonistic but isn't complaining one of the most agreed upon things to be annoying?

brisk trail
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That's the problem I have with people

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They expect to be good at something without dedicating time to learn it

brisk trail
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and get mad when they're not a professional speedrunner who never gets hit or something

brisk trail
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Jokes aside my complaints were completely valid and have nothing to do with time investment

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You're just being defensive

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The nature of the combat and progression system won't magically transform after a certain number of hours

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Actually it can

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Not in this case

tulip frost
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If you cant be bothered to git gid there is a magical button called "God Mode"

brisk trail
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You can try getting better

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and getting further into the game

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and you will earn a good sum of rewards

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to progress

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and there's no denying that

brisk trail
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I assumed you could read

soft echo
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  1. Yes, we're going to defend a game we like enough to be on a discord about
  2. Your complaints are valid for people who just aren't fans of the genre, progression and gameplay. Others do, that's OK.
brisk trail
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You're complaining about the game requiring a high apm to play at the highest level

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and also

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that the game has too much progression?

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what does that even mean

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you wanna play this game for 3 hours and then not have anything to do after that?

brisk trail
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spending 25 dollars on a game just to cry because there isn't less content

brisk trail
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you're quite the odd one

soft echo
brisk trail
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you wish to pay for a game and hope that it has less to offer

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I could sell pong to you for 60 dollars

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bet you'd have a blast with that one

soft echo
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I didn't mean impatient in an offensive way btw it's just how some ppl are

brisk trail
soft echo
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Ok then Hades isn't for you and that's fine

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Idk what to tell you

brisk trail
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All in all after all the high praise it's incredibly disappointing most especially the combat

soft echo
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Ok, if you don't like a game, you don't have to come and be immature about it to the fans of it. I don't like Genshin: Impact but I won't go on the official discord and say all the problems I have with it

brisk trail
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Don't take this the wrong way it was not my intention to digress I'm honestly here to improve my gameplay and learn more about the game

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This argument just kind of happened

viral fable
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You think you can enjoy the combat tho later down the line?

brisk trail
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The combat probably feels better on controller

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coming from someone who prefers to use mouse and keyboard on every single game

brisk trail
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Hopefully though because I'm actually not bad at the game

idle cargo
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I'm losing my mind rn because Hermes gave me a boon which gives me three extra dashes so know I have five dashes

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The final boss is so lucky I haven't got an Athena boon for this entire run, and I'm in the final area now, no sign of her

brisk trail
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button mashing is unavoidable

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and isn't due to a lack of skill

idle cargo
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If I got divine dash I would be genuinely unkillable

brisk trail
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if you ever do a blade rift dash build at some point for fun

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it's non stop dashing

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and pretty good damage tbh

idle cargo
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Hoping Dionysus gives me the dash hangover boon rn

twin thistle
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...

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i think i accidentally pressed give up instead of quit

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had a legendary fish too residentzag

soft echo
umbral whale
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yknow originally i hated stubborn defiance over death defiance.. but ive done really well every time ive used SD

twin thistle
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stubborn is good for high heat

soft echo
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^

idle cargo
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What's the difference between stubborn and death defiance?

soft echo
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Stubborn replenishes 30% and you can only have one but it replenishes after a chamber when used

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The main problem is you don't have any extras for bosses

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DD is 3 that replenish 50% and can be replenished through kiss of styx or athena

idle cargo
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Oooo I'm gonna have to try stubborn

brisk trail
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Lernie!

twin thistle
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stubborn is only better if youre dying a lot in regular rooms

mint coral
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SD has a neat interaction with athena refill too

soft echo
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If you use SD and then get the Athena replenish you can replenish SD in a different slot and have 2!

twin thistle
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three death defiances is 150% hp in healing so thatd be 5 stubborn procs

brisk trail
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The metric doesn't translate so easily

remote pebble
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need as many DD as possible for ||Hades||

soft echo
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50% x3 = 150% | 30% x5 = 150%

soft echo
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I mean, the game is called Hades lol

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Why wouldn't he be a big part of the game..?

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Mod is typing shadefear

lone kernel
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He does need to spoiler final boss name in the new players chat that’s it

void vigil
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while this channel doesnt require spoiler tags, its still alright to spoiler tag if you want. also, if youre a new player, you might want to hang out in #h1-for-new-players, where the terminology might be more friendly

soft echo
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I was just saying since it's just so slightly more to type :)

brisk trail
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Strange

idle cargo
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About the hidden aspect for the eternal spear, how do I get Achilles go say the waking phrase? I've spent more than 5 titan blood on aspects other than Aspect of Zagreus, but he still hasn't said it. I'm not sure what to do.

soft echo
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Unfortunately it's just rng

idle cargo
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Ah, i see

soft echo
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If I'm not wrong, you just have to reach Hades, and spend the blood

idle cargo
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I've beaten the old man several times

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And cried afterwards at the ending(s)

soft echo
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This waking word is fun just wait until you try and get Chaos to say it shadedisgruntled

idle cargo
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Oh no

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What weapon is it for?

void vigil
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you have to unlock 5 different aspects

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not spend more than 5 titan blood on aspects

idle cargo
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Ohhhh

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I think I can do that rn then

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I just so happen to have 2 titan blood because I cleared all the way through Elysium (died to hades) and then I bought another with the ambrosia

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I love how the rewards reset when you beat the levels with new aspects

remote pebble
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whut? they do (rewards resetting) ?

void vigil
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rewards are per weapon, not per aspect

remote pebble
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yea, that's what I thought

idle cargo
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I mean, I just bought new aspects today and each time I used a new one, I got rewards like I had never done it before

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Maybe it's bugged

void vigil
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maybe you had heat on

remote pebble
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you might need to talk to Achilles in another run, anyway

idle cargo
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Oh yeah it's cause heat I think

soft echo
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Alma while you're here I must say you must have the best pfp in the server

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Anyways

idle cargo
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So what happens if I overdo the heat gauge? I'm curious

twin thistle
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nothing special

remote pebble
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I think you get the rewards for the lowest heat you haven't done

twin thistle
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^

soft echo
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It gives your current heat bounties

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OddDo said it better

void vigil
covert zenith
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Man Chaos fish just don't pop up

soft echo
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Yeah I only have one

covert zenith
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In Codex?

soft echo
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Yea

covert zenith
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I have all 3 started but only 1 full

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And I have everything else in Codex

soft echo
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I go to chaos all the time but i can never get a fish

covert zenith
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Same
Usually once or twice a run

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And I have everything else, I just need these last 2 fish but they don't pop up

soft echo
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Yeah

covert zenith
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Erebus and Loyalty card took a while but
Stupid fish. Running out of things to do with resources too

static holly
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As you are transitioning into the heat levels, would you recommend just swapping through all the weapons for each level, or taking the time to climb with 1-2 weapons you like more? I'm back after a long absence, maybe I need to relearn with some consistency

lone kernel
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sometimes youll want to grind your good weapons

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sometimes youll try some new things

umbral whale
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i got all the way to 9 heat on the rail before i beat it with any other weapons

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holy crap

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i just got a room... with a trial of the gods. an erebus gate, a chaos gate, and an infernal trove

lone kernel
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that’ll happen haha

umbral whale
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awee Tis almost said Zagreus

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oh man this is painful x.x

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im doing an Eris run with all the opposite Mirror mods that i normally use

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one dash suuuuuuuucks

lone kernel
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haha yeah

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one dash is brutal

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but yolo

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pray for hermes

umbral whale
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but i have athena's dash rn so deflecting counts as a near miss which gives my eris even more damage buffs

lone kernel
umbral whale
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also i may or may not have over 120% damage bonus on my attacks from 2 chaos boons lol

lone kernel
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cant hurt haha

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good luck!

umbral whale
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almost died to Tis but i was being reckless lol so im still at 3 DDs

hearty sierra
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extra dashes are a godsend with ruthless reflex

umbral whale
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i got him in the room before Tis. but the best thing he had was Side Hustle. which with golden touch might actually be great once i reach the temple

hearty sierra
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It'll be great if you spent as little as possible, yeah

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Doing the prophecy, I presume

umbral whale
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yeah. with eris i think i can manage not buying EVERY centaur heart he has lol

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yeah

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instead of doing it piecemeal i decided fuggit and legit just swapped all the ones i havent done before. which was like half my stuff

hearty sierra
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Remember to manage your cast well

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It's wonky to keep looking at your cast to see how much till the next one regens, but you'll get used to it

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And uh don't get hit, I suppose

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Those are the main things when doing this sorta thing

umbral whale
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i cant even remember all the ones im using but its like 70% different from what i normally do. thank god ive already done stubborn defiance (by accident) or this would be a nightmare

hearty sierra
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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SD is pretty nice if you manage to get to pat

umbral whale
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oh yeah in the second run i accidentally had it on i got him and saw that item i was like YOOO chooses immediately

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although i never got to use it xD

hearty sierra
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Godly builds do that, carries you

umbral whale
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that run i managed to go through the entire run and my only death was on hydra cuz i stepped in magma one too many times. well him and hades

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i actually really like SD tbh. takes the pressure off of dying and not going "well crap im out of DDs so i probly wont kill hades"

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i usually bring my lucky tooth with me to styx if im on a particularly hard run or if im down to one DD. and with SD as long as i dont get slammed in the satyr tunnels i have two guaranteed for Hades

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DAMNIT HERMES GIVE ME ANOTHER DASH ILL TAKE IT EVEN IF ITS COMMON PLEASE

lone kernel
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another important tip: if you have athena boons already, and you lose your SD charge in a room, athena's death defiance boons give you an extra standard DD

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so you can theoretically have SD, tooth and athena

umbral whale
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ooh

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im using DD right now sadly lol

lone kernel
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you will only get the athena defiance if your stubborn defiance charge is used

umbral whale
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i...

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dang it poseidon

lone kernel
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eh, youll be fine. it is good to know for high heat since the meta there is lasting consequences maxed out and stubborn defiance to heal

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like i was hyped i timed myself getting blown up by an elysium shade eyeball ghost thing right as the room ended

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for a net like

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20 hp recovery

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splash dash on eris ❤️

umbral whale
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no ik

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he didnt give me the dash

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oceans bounty sunken treasure or poseidons aid

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all epic lol

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as much as id love to just get tons of obol.. i think im gonna go with the aid

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plus i might get lucky and get rip current which is my last boon i need from him to have gotten them all

lone kernel
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Poseidon’s aid is great

umbral whale
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yeah but idve preferred the dodge lol ive seen its power

lone kernel
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Panic button that also can do like, a thousand damage per use

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Hades about to spin? Poseidon call

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Five dudes all up in your business? Surf away and smack em hard on the way out

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You can pretty reliably get two hits in on a quarter bar, and if you get rip current that becomes 3

umbral whale
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OH COME ON

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im so angry

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got Pos to give me Tidal Dash. but i have to pick it over Sea Storm

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is it worth it? cuz i really dont know

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ill get more use out of tidal dash but like.... sea storm o.o my call will be so good if i use greater call

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gahhhh

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i cant pick they are both so good T.T

hearty sierra
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In case you weren't aware, the dash was better there

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Deals more damage over a longer amount of time and if you manage to get another zeus/pos boon in the future then your dash would be an activator for sea storm

wise oasis
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Sea storm on just call is bad, and splash dash on ruthless reflex isn't great

umbral whale
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im still deliberating in my head lol

hearty sierra
umbral whale
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cuz splash dash isnt that great with just one dash AND id be removing my deflect dash

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im gonna get Sea Storm and just sell it when i get the chance o.o

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if i dont get the chance, eh i got 40 more damage on my call.

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idk what Eris's buff would do to that mathematically, but slightly better? lol

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oop nother question for builds o.o

umbral whale
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wait...

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um

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youre supposed to max out 6 of the olympians to advance the story right?

limber fossil
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How do I give hades the second gift

umbral whale
limber fossil
umbral whale
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well then i accidentally spoiled something. good luck tho

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but uh yeah

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i only have 5 maxed o.o

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i still need Athena, Aphrodite, Demeter, and Hermes. and im getting the epilogue stuff about inviting them all over

limber fossil
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I’m assuming that’s stuff after 10 clears?

umbral whale
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technically after 10 clears youll have "beaten" the story, but the epilogue requires you to befriend every olympian to some degree basically

limber fossil
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Ah

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Fun

hearty sierra
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Athena is RNG

umbral whale
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im saying i got it early

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for the epilogue you only need
Zeus
Poseidon
Athena
Artemis
Ares
and Dionysus

hearty sierra
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Good luck! The Queen's plan will be set into motion very soon

umbral whale
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and i never got athena and its still giving it to me

ember cypress
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Concentrated Volley or Relentless Volley more important to get first on Chiron bow? (Dionysus spec Aphrodite atk build)

hearty sierra
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Also it's absolutely amazing btw

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I loved the epilogue sequence

umbral whale
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even the wiki says you need 6 gods at max

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so did i glitch it out or something?

ember cypress
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oki

umbral whale
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yeah more arrows is always good on chiron lol

granite ether
umbral whale
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ohhhhh

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i thought she didnt coutn at all and was after the epilogue

hearty sierra
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exactly what I was saying about dem

umbral whale
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i misread you sorry lol

hearty sierra
raw herald
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80 -> 164 instead of 80 -> 120 with relentless

hearty sierra
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Actually has to point at the enemy tho

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More skill involved

raw herald
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What?

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It's the exact same

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Maybe you're thinking of charged volley

hearty sierra
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Concentrated is the one that gives +5 per arrow hit, right?

raw herald
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+3

ember cypress
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yep ty

hearty sierra
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For all of the arrows to hit, you need to actually point at the enemy

raw herald
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Well yeah, but that's how you should be playing Chiron anyway

hearty sierra
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Relentless is more forgiving

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Not to mention blocking just an arrow or two will massively reduce damage

granite ether
raw herald
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10+13+16+19+22+25+28+31

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Imagine if that 31 damage arrow crits

umbral whale
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sigh i feel like the wiki should have a page for all of the Themes, with a preview of every one.

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i just wanna see what they look like T.T

hearty sierra
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TBH we should pin one victory for each of the themes

umbral whale
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oh is it only the victory screen?

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id hoped it changed the boon page when selecting boons

hearty sierra
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I wouldn't know

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@granite ether any idea?

umbral whale
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if someone can give me a picture of every theme i will just go make the wiki page myself xD

granite ether
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yeah iirc it's victory screen and your boon menu

umbral whale
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so it doesnt change the boon choice screen?

hearty sierra
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Need to beat dad for some time

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DMs?

umbral whale
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lemme give you a FR

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sorry my settings are to prevent my ex from messaging me

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okay nevermind i cant add you

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you add me maybe?

hearty sierra
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Sent

short glen
umbral whale
short glen
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Oh

umbral whale
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after the third one i just set it so non-friends cant message me

short glen
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Fair enough

hearty sierra
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Quick question before I go beat dad's ass multiple times - you unlock all the themes once and that's it, right? No further unlockable themes?

umbral whale
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Infernal
Sonorous
Stygian
Lovely
Woodland
Chthonic
Deathly
Infinite

limber crater
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(not sure where to post this) hey yall im a boomer who played this game in early access, can someone remind me of what the difference is ebtween vulkan and directX on launch thru steam?

hearty sierra
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Just pointing out that if you don't get the help you need, you should ask in #h1-tech-support

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Good luck!

umbral whale
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Oh gods, editing a Fandom Wiki looks way more imposing than a normal wiki page o.o Im sure ill figure it out. It may not be the prettiest thing but its info that should be out there for players

short glen
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Fandom wiki looks awful and idk why gamepedia format wasn't chosen when they merged. My guess is because the fandom format had more ads

umbral whale
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okay this is actually a bit easier than i thought

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just wish the damn icons werent vaguely the same color as the backdrop for adding stuff o.o

umbral whale
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im just gonna make a table going

Name Cost Boon Menu Example Victory Screen Example

hearty sierra
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Do they affect boon choice menus?

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Nope

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No change

umbral whale
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dang

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well thats good. i wont have to adjust the table i already made xD

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Eventually im gonna have to figure out how to add the icons from the game into the text but just the text and the pictures will serve its purpose. people also dont need links to every resource needed. Itd just make it look nice and professional xD

ember cypress
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Do chaos gates change if you give up? (i know RNG is supposed to "stay" if you give up)

vapid narwhal
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giving up only keeps the very first room and maybe the 2nd room

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everything after that deviates from the seed

limber fossil
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I got hunting blades in Tartarus

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Rng loves me

umbral whale
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Lol i gave myself a dumb nickname

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Crap i mighta did something o.o now i kinda wanna make that my psn ID

umbral whale
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lemme know what you guys think o.o

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the only isue i ran into was for some reason it wouldnt let me put the icons for the resources next to the name for some unknown reason

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actually lemme try something

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okay it looks better now. although i had to remake the table cuz one edit made the whole thing have an aneurysm

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btw if editing that damn table is anything like working with excel i understand peoples pain if only a little

granite ether
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looks good, one thing of note, the requirements of the themes showing up are on this page https://hades.fandom.com/wiki/House_Contractor

Hades Wiki

The House Contractor, at the desk to the right of Lord Hades. The House Contractor, located in the main hall of The House of Hades, is a shade given the task of restoring and repairing the Underworld by Lord Hades. It is one of the main meta progression systems in Hades (the other being the Mirror of Night.)
Zagreus may pay the Contractor G...

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which is have bought all other (non-theme) work otders

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and for woodland specifically have > 3000 unspent darkness

limber mist
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Is it normal to not get ANY boons?

modern garnet
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it's certainly possible. some people do it on purpose

limber mist
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The last 5 or more runs have been all gems,money,or darkness

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I’m definitely not as I’m still waiting for the game to allow me to finish it

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So this is making it even worse

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Game is wearing out its welcome that’s for sure

lavish atlas
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Anyone else noticed Theseus' tunic hangs off his right shoulder on the sprite and left shoulder in his art?

modern garnet
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are you running dark foresight on the mirror?

limber mist
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Is that the one that increases its chances?

modern garnet
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increases the chances of rewards that will affect your run

limber mist
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If so, I thought that might be an issue and turned them all off

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Still the same

modern garnet
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also I'd recommend taking a break if you're getting sick of it... everyone will still be there when you come back

limber mist
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It’s so weird playing a game and not being able to finish

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I don’t like doing that. When I start a gme, I play to completion

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Once I stop, I won’t come back

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Absolutely loved the game but man did they really pad this out for no reason

hearty sierra
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skill

modern garnet
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well they can't pace it well for everyone, you know. people have wildly different skill levels

hearty sierra
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But seriously, pick up dark foresight and keepsake of your choice

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You can beat the game pretty handily with a maxed mirror

limber mist
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I get it for the niche audience that does speedrun and will only play this game 24/7 but for people trying to enjoy the gme start to finish this is unbearably padded

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Lol

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I’ve beating the game a lot

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I’m talking bout 100% achievements

hearty sierra
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LMAO

limber mist
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Get the epilogue etc

hearty sierra
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You do realize 100% achievements is hard for a reason, right?

limber mist
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I do

hearty sierra
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Most games work that way

modern garnet
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eh the hardest stuff doesnt have an achievement for a reason

limber mist
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Lmao

wise oasis
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they made 100% achievements easier than it could have been by quite a bit

hearty sierra
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32 heat is arguably the hardest one

limber mist
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There is a difference between hard thst difficult andn”hard” tht just time consuming

hearty sierra
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For a game built around RNG I'd say it's surprisingly forgiving

limber mist
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I’m only talking about the rng dialogue

wise oasis
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100% achievements isnt hard either, the only one that really takes any time is the max all keepsakes

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The rest happen pretty quick

limber mist
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I could careless about all the others random stuff

hearty sierra
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100%ing this game would take 100 hours, I think, from start to finish and looking at the wiki

limber mist
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Nah

umbral whale
limber mist
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It’s around 60/80

umbral whale
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so those arent accurate

wise oasis
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If you go for it its not that long

modern garnet
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you do gotta do 10 wins, and however more it takes to get the epilogue, but I feel like the main story isn't especially long, and there's a lot to do in the meantime

hearty sierra
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Perhaps I just play slow

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But the game does expect you to die a lot, that's true

wise oasis
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almost like its a rougelite or something

hearty sierra
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I know

limber mist
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Again, I’m almost at 80hrs in. I get it

hearty sierra
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Almost like the whole point of the game is repetition

modern garnet
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if you're constantly aware of all the dialogue rng hooks you're waiting for, it makes you feel really unlucky. I never looked up any hidden aspect requirements and I stumbled into all of them

umbral whale
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the only downside to playing on ps4 ill never know how many hours ive sunken into it

granite ether
umbral whale
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probly

lavish atlas
limber mist
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Crazy how condescending this room can be

limber mist
modern garnet
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we're just used to giving advice round here, sorry if that's not what you were looking for

limber mist
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But your not

hearty sierra
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I also apologize if I came off as condescending, period.

limber mist
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Comes off as people Just getting defensive over their perfect game

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Look I love the game, doesn’t mean I can’t criticize

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Nor does it all the sudden make me a noob to gaming or the genre

modern garnet
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it sounded like you were asking for help, I'm sorry

limber mist
modern garnet
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alright

lavish atlas
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No need to be rude to people just trying to be helpful. You can say you're not looking for help without insulting people.

limber mist
hearty sierra
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Alright, give it a rest

limber mist
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They were literally being incredibly condescending.

umbral whale
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it took me exactly 120 runs (some were suicide runs) to reach the "Invite" phase

umbral whale
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what?

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o.o

hearty sierra
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I guess that's what happens when you aim for the epilogue

limber mist
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Helpful information @umbral whale

hearty sierra
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Far quicker than I did, anyhow

umbral whale
#

it would honestly be less than 100 if i didnt mess around and stuff

umbral whale
umbral whale
brisk trail
#

ik there is on xbox should be the same on ps4

umbral whale
#

cuz i didnt JUST do suicide runs to advance story i did some of them to try and complete prophecies and i also wasted a few runs just blindly running with a new aspect xD

#

actually lemme see what my first clear was

brisk trail
#

u did suicide runs

umbral whale
#

i did about 15 of them just to unload nectar to max out the gods

#

my 24th run was my first successful escape attempt

#

actually i can tell you exactly how many suicide runs i did

#

45 runs were suicide runs in total. whether to advance story, or advance character dialogues for aspects

#

lol my first ever run i died to a bloodless in tartarus 5:27. my only boons were Deadly Strike and Phalanx Shot

burnt breach
#

bloodless in tartarus ..?

umbral whale
#

thats what it says in the archives

#

actually yeah what the hell?

#

arent bloodless only in asphodel?

burnt breach
#

y

umbral whale
#

o.o maybe they have them in your first run?

umbral whale
#

TIME TO DO A REVERSE SPEEDRUN

#

lets see how fast i can die o.o

granite ether
umbral whale
#

7 seconds baybeeeeee

#

i could be faster but the enemy that spawned was a wringer x.x

brisk trail
#

How lucky I'm TOO GOOD at hades to die

#

A tragic tale of my greatness

umbral whale
#

ok i dont think anyone could beat 4 seconds without cheating o.o

vapid narwhal
#

RI4 HL4 FO3?

#

and hope that you get something that can one shot you in the first room

brisk trail
#

hi should i get explosive upper flying cutter or colossus knuckle

#

explosive is good

toxic imp
#

i swear to god there is a codeline somewhere in this game files that can make spawn patroclus only if i have all of my death defiance and its making me lose my mind

forest falcon
#

haha

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Does the charon trinket work on the items patroclus gives you?

#

Keepsake i mean

toxic imp
#

i don't really know i've been using skelly's tooth

wise oasis
#

It doesnt

polar root
#

Imagine if charon keepsake gave you more duration of rooms for your patroclus hydra lite

#

Or even the jerky

wise oasis
#

23 chambers with kiss of styx dark

leaden geyser
#

i mean, unless you get turbo sacked in styx it usually carries over to hades anyway

thick robin
#

i have been avoiding the rail because it SOUNDS weak, is there a mod to make it sound cooler?

ripe dirge
#

Does anybody else find Thanatos' 'help' annoying? Like, it makes the room takes 2x-3x as long and you end up losing more HP than usually

stoic flame
#

the time doesnt even count

ripe dirge
#

in game time doesnt, but real life time does

stoic flame
#

🗿

high island
#

Thanatos is helping because there are so many more enemies than normally, not the other way around.

stoic flame
#

playing on a tight schedule are we

ripe dirge
ripe dirge
high island
#

Well, it's a challenge room. But you get a better reward.

brisk trail
#

YO WTF

high island
#

And I don't end up losing more HP than usual.

brisk trail
#

Hades just let me go through

#

LMFAO

high island
#

2x0 is still 0. squirtdevious

brisk trail
#

He doesn't want the smoke

ripe dirge
#

I guess what I am saying is should be a room you can most times opt in, like Mini-boss rooms, or something. Not all times avoidable, but still

high island
#

But then it wouldn't be too different from a miniboss. It's supposed to be distinct from that.

#

You could just as well run into a fountain and get a free room instead.

brisk trail
#

hes helping u and this is how u repay him

#

😢

high island
ripe dirge
#

Hey! I didn't ask for his help!

high island
#

So you want to fight all the extra enemies by yourself, without his help, without the opportunity for +25 max HP?

brisk trail
#

Wait credits are rolling

ripe dirge
#

No, no extra enemies

brisk trail
high island
#

They do be rolling.

#

GGs. dusa

brisk trail
#

Finally a game

#

with an ending

#

that doesn't make me mad

#

can't wait for anyone who has yet to finish it gets to experience the story

ripe dirge
#

Just to be clear, I'm not saying I don't like it, just a bit annoying is all, if it was a choice I'd still choose it sometimes, just not always

leaden geyser
#

bro why is chaos offering me defiance with cast damage curse when im running hunting blades

#

not cool

high island
#

Sounds like a Chaos thing to do. courte5Wut

leaden geyser
#

i died

#

LOL

high island
#

Did you take it? Nice.

#

Courage is important.

boreal gale
#

Should I focus on maxing my mirror or maxing my Eris first?

leaden geyser
#

seconds later i get goomba stomped by the megagorgon skullcrusher

#

i mean

boreal gale
#

I hate that Megagorgon miniboss

leaden geyser
#

if by maxing mirror you mean maxing both sides not really

boreal gale
#

No I need the 3k for the bottom one

#

But that'll take a while to gather.

leaden geyser
#

easier to just level up you weapons on the meantime

#

you'll get darkness as collateral anyway

boreal gale
#

I'll just bully Hades with my fists until I have enough blood to max out my Eris and then I'll focus on mirror

leaden geyser
#

oh nvm can't post pics here

mint coral
#

Fated persuasion is nice but not needed

#

So il say max eris

wise oasis
#

I don't like the megagorgon on mm, that shockwave is a pain

leaden geyser
#

chaos has the nerve to roast me after that one

wise oasis
leaden geyser
stoic flame
#

😼

boreal gale
#

If you just don't get hit then you don't die

#

If you hit your shots and don't get hit you can't lose

leaden geyser
#

why is talos pull so wonky jesus

boreal gale
#

Ugh can dad just like me already jesus

#

Nevermind there we go

brisk trail
#

hades power scaling

boreal gale
#

Dad keepsake pog

wise oasis
clever thicket
#

When you create a new save, there's an option you can check that says youll start with pact of punishment. Does that option also increase the general difficulty, or does it just make the beginning harder?

burnt breach
#
Hades Wiki

Hell Mode is a harder difficulty option that may be selected when creating a new save file. This option cannot be changed later and disables God Mode from use. Selecting Hell Mode has Zagreus start the game with the Pact of Punishment immediately in use. The Pact of Punishment has five mandatory conditions with one Hell Mode exclusive condition,...

clever thicket
#

Thanks

leaden geyser
#

makes it harder by adding 5 perma heat

jade zenith
#

and it isn't particularly easy heat either

boreal gale
#

Oh my god I only have 300 darkness

#

Hell mode is awful

jade zenith
#

calisthenics is pretty bad to have at all times

leaden geyser
#

run 5 labor and pray you dont get touched basically

boreal gale
#

Dad keepsake actually good

#

What

#

Dad's keepsake with Smouldering Air

leaden geyser
#

doesnt work

wise oasis
#

you just get nothing

boreal gale
#

Oh

jade zenith
#

hell mode is a pain if you are aiming for optimal pact setups or speedrun times so not the best pick for a main profile

leaden geyser
#

you can stack billowing however

boreal gale
#

Already Epic Eris

#

How hard is FO1

leaden geyser
#

not much i feel

clever thicket
#

How many hours do you guys have in this game? If it's over 100, what do you guys do to keep you engaged with the game?

boreal gale
#

FO1 DC2 TD1 EM1 for 7 heat, easy enough right?

leaden geyser
#

i mean how much heat is em3

brisk trail
#

Pom blossom seems like a really good keepsake to take

leaden geyser
#

6

boreal gale
#

EM3 is 6

leaden geyser
#

run em3 td1 or something

boreal gale
#

EM3 DC1?

#

Malphon should be fine

brisk trail
#

who the sexiest character

leaden geyser
#

lout

boreal gale
brisk trail
forest falcon
#

Dionysys

boreal gale
#

Is it even a question?

brisk trail
#

DIONYSYS

boreal gale
#

How can you see Dusa

brisk trail
#

sleeping on than

boreal gale
#

And still go with Dio

ripe dirge
#

Hmm, TIL of Hell Mode. I'd like to try but having to start over having spent so much time in this save makes me lazy

brisk trail
#

homeboy spelt Dionysus wrong

#

the elysium bull kinda

#

Mess with the bull you get the co-

#

8 keys for the paws

#

Doesn't seem worth it

#

Does it just do more damage

mint coral
#

Is other weapon, and you need to unlock all for the aspects

stoic flame
#

lol paws

ripe dirge
#

Do you guys prefer Death Defiance or Stubborn Defiance ?

stoic flame
#

depends on the run

ripe dirge
#

I like both

stoic flame
#

mostly dd th

#

o

wise oasis
#

deth in most cases

stoic flame
#

stubborn only when im doing LC4

ripe dirge
#

👍

fathom moth
#

can i borrow some

#

titan blood

high island
#

Sure, I have more than I know what to do with.

fathom moth
#

thanks

high island
#

Would 30 suffice?

fathom moth
#

yes

stoic flame
#

mfw

high island
#

I'll need your social security number to make the transaction.

#

(Please don't post your social security number. courte5Wut)

brisk trail
#

my social security number is

#

4

#

Tough decision here

#

but for aspect of rama

#

triple shot, point blank, or double shot?

#

triple shot seems like it would be the best if I can land all 3 point blank

high island
# brisk trail 4

Okay. The 30 Titan Blood should be in your account in the next 12 months.

brisk trail
#

but idk if the others are just better in some way

high island
#

Triple or Twin.

#

I like Twin more. But it probably doesn't matter too much.

brisk trail
#

so point blank is best as your 3rd daed

high island
#

Point-Blank is definitely not the pick here.

stoic flame
#

yes

high island
#

Twin and Triple are the best hammers for Rama.

stoic flame
#

i'd go for twin shot

brisk trail
#

Well not the pick for my second

#

aight bet

#

twin shot hasn;t let me down yet

#

Also question

#

can fidi petrify hades?

high island
#

No.

brisk trail
#

:(

#

Also you know that you've gotten better at itemization with your main weapon when you never have anything worth selling

polar root
#

Triple and point blank shot is super nice

#

Most important, BIG NUMBER.

brisk trail
brisk trail
#

Does anyone know how to get the antos companion I am having trouble

#

I certainly don't know how to get the companion you're looking for but I do know a way you could help yourself

#
Hades Wiki

Companion Antos is obtained by reaching a high level of trust with Achilles, and then gifting him Ambrosia.
Using Antos in battle will summon Achilles and Patroclus to aid you. They will appear briefly and deal 1500 damage to 2 foes one after the other.
Antos cannot be used outside of combat encounters or while fighting Hades. Hades will eventua...

idle cloud
#

Yooo a hades discord let's gooooo

brisk trail
#

Greetings

idle cloud
#

Honestly buck wild how big of a step up Hades is from Bastion

#

Don't get me wrong bastion was fine!

#

Short though, and the weird ability to break all kinds of structures and pots without getting anything from doing so was unsatisfying

#

So the ability to get coins from pots in Hades? And how destroying structures can set off traps? Now that's good stuff

umbral whale
#

I love how if a rock from the ceiling hits a trap and you dont destroy the rock it keeps the trap triggered so it wont trigget again lol

brisk trail
#

interesting

lone kernel
idle cloud
#

@umbral whale ooo that's never happened to me!

#

Oh really, it's that old? Wow

#

What's the other game they've made?

umbral whale
#

If you played all of their games you can see the ideas they kept from each one in hades

idle cloud
#

I've never played Transistor, how is it?

umbral whale
idle cloud
#

Never played Pyre, either!

umbral whale
idle cloud
#

Platinum? Wym. Like getting all achievements?

umbral whale
#

Plus the soundtrack oml. But thats every SGG game

umbral whale
idle cloud
#

Neat!

#

Wb pyre, how was it?

umbral whale
#

Pyre is their least popular of the 4 games but i personally LOVED it

mint coral
#

pyre is magic basketball and i love it

umbral whale
#

I just didnt platinum it cuz activating all the titan stars was just frustratingly hard xD

idle cloud
#

Interesting. Magic basketball? Seems quite different haha

umbral whale
#

As i say to my friends, Pyre is Cultists Basketball with a hint of overthrowing evil government lol

idle cloud
#

Wild

#

They all sound worth checking out!

#

And I love how it seems that you can tell how they evolve, at least from what yall are saying

#

Growthhhhh

umbral whale
#

They are. Bastion is the only one i dont personally own but my buddy gameshared it to me a while back. It was fun

idle cloud
#

Like, if they ever make like another game after Hades I can only imagine how it'd be

#

Bastion is cool enough

#

Haven't played the others to compare

#

Bastion story was neat iirc

#

I think my main gripe was simply the unsatisfyingness of being able to destroy lots of stuff but without any benefit lol

#

Otherwise I was an okay game

#

Honestly I haven't felt as passionate about a Rouge like or w/e Hades is, since like... Over a decade ago with A Wizard's Lizard

#

And AWL's story wasn't REMOTELY as good lol

umbral whale
#

Transistor is basically: you have a sword capable of stealing and digitizing souls and containing them within it, and your boyfriend was the first to get his soul taken from it saving you from being killed, but the trauma made you lose your voice (and youre a singer) so you take the sword and go try to stop an evil group from wiping the city off the face of the earth.

#

Also each soul you get gives you new powers. But if you play recklessly you can lose those powers

#

Also the sword talks throughout the game

#

In your BFs voice

static holly
#

I thought I was much father along, but coming back after 6 months I see that besides my shield at 6, my head levels are all still 2-4. I guess 60 hours in and I still have plenty to go.

polar root
#

I did play a bit of bastion, but only a few hours

idle cloud
#

Hell yeahhh

#

@static holly head levels? Oh, heat?

#

Lol I'm still at 1 on most weapons

polar root
#

Head levels gud

idle cloud
#

I've only beaten 1 heat on I think the spear? Idk

polar root
#

I call it head levels now

idle cloud
#

Hey its odd there's no vcs lol

polar root
idle cloud
#

So we could stream to each other lol

#

Tight deadline? Ah

polar root
idle cloud
#

I go for the 20% more enemies usually!

polar root
#

Niceee

raw herald
#

Wow, someone just did sub 10 on 50 heat

#

"The Chiron guy" if anyone knows them by that name

polar root
#

WHATTTT??!!!

#

me dying to do it normally

stoic flame
#

😔

mint coral
#

wait what SuiBlank

polar root
#

Send help, please.

idle cloud
#

<@&456908176877551658> sorry for the @ but i have a question, or a suggestion/request I guess?

tepid yacht
#

yeah, dm me!

hexed smelt
#

Hey, sup?

idle cloud
#

A few VCs would be really really nice. Maybe limited to 10-15 people each? Or have one for smaller groups and one for larger? Just so we can talk and stream our runs to each other!

#

It think it'd be super fun

hexed smelt
#

Nope.

raw herald
#

Very hard to moderate given that there are thousands of people on this server

raw herald
idle cloud
#

Fair, fair

#

Asked and answered

hexed smelt
#

We had voice chats when the server was first made; they were impossible to moderate then and would be worse now with thousands of users.

wise oasis
#

damn first he broke 32 now 50

#

nice

tepid yacht
#

voice chats are notoriously difficult to moderate

idle cloud
#

checks numbers okay yeah

#

19k...jesus

#

Yeah no, understandable

raw herald
#

There are 66k

tepid yacht
#

oh this server's approaching 70k

#

yeah

idle cloud
#

Dhdhdhshshshshshshs christ

raw herald
#

That is a lot

polar root
#

Wow

idle cloud
#

Yeah no freaking wonder

mint coral
#

time to fight boatman in an attempt to skip ares dusa

idle cloud
#

I heard you can do that but never tried!

hexed smelt
#

Yeah, the user list on the right is set up to only show online people.

idle cloud
#

Skip ares?

stoic flame
#

people are gonna be spamming all kinds of racial slurs

#

in vc

hexed smelt
#

So yeah, no, sorry! VC ain't happening.

idle cloud
#

How do you trigger the fight? Do you just keep attacking him?

raw herald
#

Take his sack of gold

mint coral
#

borrow money from him

idle cloud
#

No no dw yall dang 19k online 70k overall, that is wild and entirely understandable

burnt breach
#

keep in mind he's gonna take your life as collateral

idle cloud
#

Well, naturally

#

He is a shopkeeper after all

#

Shopkeepers are notoriously op

#

Sack of gold... Hmm

mint coral
#

1 dd gone lmao

wise oasis
idle cloud
#

How much gold this man carry?

mint coral
#

the fact this is tartarus with high confidence doesnt help

idle cloud
#

And do you still get the stuff?

wise oasis
#

Probably not the wisest idea yeah

#

The sack has 300 gold and a 20% discount voucher if you win

idle cloud
#

Ah, not worth it this run then

jade zenith
#

you have to buy anything you want from the shop before the fight though

idle cloud
#

Don't wanna throw away my decent sword build this run

#

If I had a crap run then maybe just for giggles

jade zenith
#

since it throws you into the next chamber immediately after

idle cloud
#

Good to know!

#

So, Charon VS ||Hades|| who is harder

mint coral
#

at least im using shield lol

burnt breach
#

charon

remote pebble
#

I found Charon way harder

wise oasis
#

Charon hits like a truck

idle cloud
#

As expected

mint coral
#

charon without certain pacts

wise oasis
#

and doesnt like telegraphing his moves

idle cloud
#

I'd be disappointed if he wasnt

#

Do you only get the 20% off during that run? Or does it carry?

wise oasis
#

only that run

mint coral
#

2 dd lost to charon lmao

idle cloud
#

300 gold just doesn't seem worth it lol

mint coral
#

if i dont skip ares this is pain

idle cloud
#

I mean, maybe if you got an achievement idk

hearty sierra
burnt breach
#

one factor that makes him harder than hades is that you won't have as many boons when you fight charon

idle cloud
#

Wym skip ares I'm confused

wise oasis
hearty sierra
#

300g +20% discount is significant

jade zenith
#

a lot of the attacks are quite easy to dodge

hearty sierra
burnt breach
#

especially if you fight him in asphodel or elysium

mint coral
#

ares was the next chamber reward and i dont want him in this build

wise oasis
#

Ares kinda cringe

mint coral
#

oh got artemis instead, epic

idle cloud
#

Eh, maybe. But sometimes you can get Hermes 10 gold per room esp combined with a chaos bonus gold boon, and you're p good for the run

#

And combine that with the 15% mirror bonus between worlds

wise oasis
#

Side hustle reduces your chances of rush delivery though

idle cloud
#

Adds up decently

wise oasis
#

and thats cringe!

idle cloud
#

Rush delivery? Remind me

jade zenith
#

there is also a prophecy that involves defeating him

wise oasis
#

more damage based on move speed

remote pebble
#

twice in a row

idle cloud
#

Trying to remember if I've gotten that once

jade zenith
#

asides from that I only really did it for buying diamonds/titan bloon

idle cloud
#

Lol so you can best him multiple times a run?

burnt breach
wise oasis
idle cloud
#

Yeah I generally save up for final Charon diamond/titan

wise oasis
#

generally from hermes

#

so you need a 3rd boon

idle cloud
#

Ambrosia can be tempting too

wise oasis
#

and thats a 50% chance

idle cloud
#

Just cuz trading

remote pebble
#

no, I think it's just 2 consecutive wins VS him, not in the same run

idle cloud
#

Gotcha

#

Wonder if you can fight him twice a rub

#

Run

burnt breach
#

who? charon? no

remote pebble
#

I've only met him in Tartarus, when I barely have any boons 😦

mint coral
#

thats not a problem if you use hestia dusa or things like rama ig

idle cloud
#

Shoot I forget what Hestia is... I've used it before

mint coral
#

aaaand i got forced ares anyways

idle cloud
#

Who rama

mint coral
jade zenith
#

hestia is high damage after reloading

mint coral
#

rama is hidden aspect of the bow

idle cloud
#

How is that boon? I've debated it

#

Aspect I mean

#

Hestia

#

I usually have stuck to the one that has you absorb the special

burnt breach
#

Hestia is Barett M82 .50 caliber sniper rifle

jade zenith
#

eris will probably do more damage but hestia is a lot safer

short glen
#

Lucifer

idle cloud
#

Why's it safer? Ah, less having to approach the enemies?

jade zenith
#

since you only fire one shot every few seconds you can move for most of the time

short glen
#

Hestia sounds slow ngl

jade zenith
#

with other aspects, you are still ranged but you have to be still whilst attacking which means you need to rely more on dashes for dodging

mint coral
#

fo2? more like free jolted spam dusa

idle cloud
#

Fo2?

mint coral
#

forced overtime 2

#

enemies get +40% movement speed and attack speed

idle cloud
#

Ha I use fo1 currently

#

Just going with Fo2 is tempting

spice flame
#

Emm.. I have a problem? Or i don't know how it can be works

#

Sea-God's spite from the fated list

idle cloud
#

What about it?

spice flame
#

I killed champions with extreme methods.
Met Poseidon after that and nothing.

lone kernel
spice flame
#

I use keepsakes after beating them to meet Poseidon

wise oasis
#

I think like many things it falls to rng now

remote pebble
#

I had the Poseidon dialogue in the beginning of my next run, in my case

#

after beating the champions

mint coral
#

poseidon aid is fun
no rip current or smoldering sadly

wanton quail
#

|| after many a days and nights my family is finally whole ||

remote pebble
#

congrats!

#

are you gonna stop playing, then?

wanton quail
#

Not a chance I'm absolutely addicted

#

Gotta get those statues now

idle cloud
#

A perhaps stupid question, and maybe it's spoilers but... Is Zag the God of anything specific?

#

Like how posiedon is water n sea

#

My guess would be something like a God of mercy

wanton quail
#

Zag specifically is against the idea that he is

remote pebble
#

I don't think he is

idle cloud
#

Interesting

wanton quail
#

Achillies seems to have an idea

remote pebble
#

he's just a Prince

wanton quail
#

He is a God

idle cloud
#

I really love Zag

#

Such a just, good dude

#

Sees someone suffering and is immediately like "okay how can I help?"

wanton quail
#

There's some in game dialogue if you talk to thanatos and achillies

idle cloud
#

Neat

#

Maybe I haven't enough?

#

I really gotta start nectaring up thanatos when I can

#

I try to, I just don't se ehim often

wanton quail
#

Check your codex last line of thanatos

remote pebble
#

and you have to nectar him before talking to him, too (which I just learned)

wanton quail
#

Sometimes he sticks around but he's kinda touchy

idle cloud
#

Don't have it yet

#

Also good to know

wanton quail
#

Once you fill the codex entry you'll get your answer

gleaming oak
#

Does the career opportunity mean that supergiant is working on more content 👁️👁️

compact cloak
#

Hey guys, I've been playing for a few days now and finally got the true ending, but I can't seem to continue deepening Achilles's relationship, I've got ambrosia and I've talked to him whenever possible but it's not prompting me like it did with skelly

remote pebble
#

guess it's RNG, and you have to keep talking to him?

#

and to ||Patroclus||

compact cloak
idle cloud
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So youve met ||his ex in Elysium?||

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Hmm

compact cloak
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Yea, a few times and seemed to have exhausted all dialog with them

mint coral
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how many hearts you have with nyx?

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you need her at 5 at least to continue their quest

compact cloak
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Ahhhh ok

mint coral
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also you have access to the admin chamber?

compact cloak
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Also I know they probably won't but I'd love to see an update adding one or two new weapons, like I would love to see us able to use thanato's scythe

compact cloak
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I also still need to unlock two hidden aspects but I'm trash with the bow and fists

fiery bramble
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Use Chiron for the bow, impossible to be trash with that

mint coral
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finally got the bond with hermes

stoic violet
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Does chaos aspect get any better with upgrades? It seems barely different than regular aegis.

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I have it at level three and the extra shields barely do anything

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Also recently got all bonds and three starred all the trinkets! That's a LOT of work! XD

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Still gotta upgrade the plushies, whatever they're called. Battie and Mort and all them

mint coral
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nice

grave flame
mint coral
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finally got epic rd again

compact cloak
ripe dirge
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So, why is it impossible to delete a save slot

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Like, I delete it cool, then when I start the game again it's just sitting there, menacingly

spice flame
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I unlocked Skelly 1st reward.. and..

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what the hell is this?

remote pebble
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lol

brisk trail
ripe dirge
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could it be some sort of easter egg? Like it is never dead (unless you rewrite it)

remote pebble
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smthing weird with cloud saves?

ripe dirge
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this potential bug has been here at least since 1.0 released tho

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i got the game on 1.0 on steam was there

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now i came back to it on ps4 and it is here

olive goblet
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It works for me on the switch

ripe dirge
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hmm, the plot thickens

olive goblet
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Maybe it’s the way you’re dressed

brisk trail
spice flame
brisk trail
olive goblet
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Beat the Big Man on 8 heat

spice flame
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Yeah

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before that you need get quest from skelly

olive goblet
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Mhm mhm

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This is true

brisk trail
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O

ripe dirge
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I thought "this is a joke, I'll unlock the second thing, its probaly a crazy weapon or someting". It wasn't. Fingers crossed for the third one.

forest falcon
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🪦

sick ibex
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So do I need to give achillies a bunch of nectar to get him to give me the release phrase? Ive had like 15 clears on this save, put like 6-7 blood into every weapon type and I just cant get this hidden aspect part rolling

void vigil
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you need to unlock 5 aspects that arent zagreus aspects

sick ibex
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done did that

void vigil
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and you need to fight the final boss at least once (outcome is irrelevant), and acquire the fated list

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after that its just dialogue rng

brisk trail
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Coronactht best weapon

brisk trail
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Remember gamers

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when you make a mistake and you're about to lose your streak

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alt F4

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because you're the better player for outplaying the game

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thinking it can take away your beautiful streak

remote pebble
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lol

ripe dirge
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what happens if you pickup a pom but have no boons?

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never tried that

raw herald
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Get money instead

ripe dirge
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ahh ok ty

remote pebble
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considering you could farm streaks with heat 0, meh

sick ibex
grave flame
brisk trail
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How do you unlock the 4th aspects?

spare tiger
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After that, do it for all your other weapons

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Achilles won't be giving you the awakening phrase though

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It varies per weapon

sick ibex
spare tiger
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Hell, Chaos gives you the phrase for the shield

high island
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No. You have to unlock 5 non-Zag aspects, fight Hades at least once, and then get the waking phrase from Master Achilles to unlock the hidden spear.

All the requirements for each hidden aspect are pinned in #h1-story-discussion.

brisk trail
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So what characters are just like "nice weapon bro but it could be better"

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After putting blood in

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Oh

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Nvm thanks

brisk trail
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Equip Aspect of Rama

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spam attack button

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thank me later

forest falcon
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I got twin shot point blank shot aphro attack on rama and i still didn't really like it

rough orchid
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just got killed by ||charon||

lone kernel
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That’ll happen. Strong guy

rough orchid
lone kernel
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yep

robust sapphire
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If I called this game one of the best games of all time, would I be off base? I’m seriously addicted to it

idle cloud
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Which weapon is Rama?

jade zenith
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rama is the bow

idle cloud
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@robust sapphire honestly not ott base at all

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I see

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I shall try it

jade zenith
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it is the hidden aspect btw

idle cloud
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Dangit

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I've only gotten hiddens for spear and shield

spare tiger
short glen
prime lantern
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what happens when you buy the 300$ pomegranate

modern garnet
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Double pom

prime lantern
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wait

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i mean if you have no boons

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how much money do you get

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i know the 100$ one gives you like 300$ if you have no boons

sick ibex
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wait what, poms give you money if you have no boons? I have 400hrs into the game betwwen steam and ps5 and I literally never knew this

rough orchid
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ive gotten a 2 sack 3x in a row

prime lantern
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yep and im in the middle of a lucky shattered shackles run where i got to purge all my boons and the last styx room was a pomegranate that gave me 400 obols

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oh and i have the blade with the %5 for total obols dmg

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so

rough orchid
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what does boiling blood do

mint coral
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oh i tought this was new player ww, eh whatever

rough orchid
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is there a way to check how many times ive won

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oh wait

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wait actually yeah is there

plucky latch
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Yeah. You gotta pay for it

rough orchid
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administrTive chamber right?

plucky latch
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Something like that

rough orchid
remote pebble
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one of the two stacks you can check

plucky latch
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Sometimes you gotta let the chicks fly from the nest.

lone kernel
brisk trail
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Scared of who I give my ambrosia to

high island
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Give everything to Lady Aphrodite.

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She's the main character.

short glen
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Athena way cooler

high island
polar marsh
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Lol we all simp for aphrodite uwu

mint coral
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is darkness from troves affected by the poseidon/chaos boons or dark thirst?