#h1-discussion
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less than 100% at least xD
Wait for real? Lmao I literally did not know that in my 380+ runs
For some reason I’ve started killing Theseus before Asterius more often now
i noticed it my first time reaching the boss fight
cuz i ALWAYS got asterius as my miniboss for my first 5 trips to elysium
Asterius was my first elysium death actually
The Butterfly ball will not leave me alone
Does that mean Asterius miniboss isn’t really all that much time loss compared to soul catcher? Or does that 20% health not really make a difference
It's not that bad for IGT. It's pretty bad for RTA.
Butterfly ball is way easier and faster. Asterius (especially with FO2 EM3) can be a nightmare
Yeah
Teleports behind you “Nothing personal, Short one”
I don’t understand why anyone would prefer Asterius over soul catcher
I'm dreading when my runs reach a heat sufficient to need em3
Good Shade best boy
He's easy solo, and it makes the boss fight easier.
EM3 is really scary but when you get better at it, it’s not too bad
If it's not EM3, anyway.
EM3, Damage Control, and Forced overtime are my go-to heat conditions
EM3 Asterius miniboss definitely sucks
EM3, DC2, FO2, HS, and… I think CP1 are what I use for 15 heat
What’s the quickest/most efficient way to rack up darkness? If there is any that is. I’m simply going for the 3k restoration.
Damage control is free on some aspects and absolutely awful on others. Also, what about TD? TD is free if you get use to it (which isn’t really too hard)
I think I still haven't done DC, AP, and RI in my hell mode save lol.
I get really stressed with timers
Water levels are hell
use thirst weapons, use Poseidon's keepsake for oceans bounty, and hope for a chaos gate for even more
or do the opposite and go for chaos with the egg
Egg doesn’t increase Chaos’s spawn rate
I used to get stressed with the timer. But now I like the pressure. At least try TD2, it’s actually super easy I promise
Oh good call on poseidon. I don’t remember getting darkness in chaos?
I’ve been getting sub 20 consistently, so I can do it, I just don’t want to
he gives you blessings similar to ocean's bounty
Master Chaos's pronouns are they/them.
I remember getting one that was +150 something % bonus on darkness , gems and money
Alright. But if that’s the case, it’s 6 free heat. SIX. If you do choose to go for higher heats, that will help a ton
i forget what its called but it can be OBSCENELY high
like 198% darkness high
Eclipse
Always gift Bouldy 
Interesting. Will definitely be on the lookout. @umbral whale
Is the name of the chaos boon
Let me see if I've ever gotten it at the desk
mmf... support arrows that actually do good damage
Obviously it comes with a curse too
On some weapons, yeah
im still in my eris run
@weary jackal yea, seems like they're mostly always worth it
I got myself killed on hydra once ‘cause I forgot I had the damage on cast curse
(Not like, fully killed, I just used a DD)
Yup lol
ugh come on styx gimme the bag of rats already
I'll hear the notification a curse has been lifted and like oh crap totally forgot. That makes sense now lol
no sorry Ive taken all of them
Yeah, 4-sack is suffering
im on 3
That's worse
I got 2 5-sacks in a row
3 sack is alright, but I much prefer my 2 sacks
absolute agony

got it
I seem to get 2 sack most often, but yeah
Buy a lottery ticket lmao
2 sacks have a 56% chance of happening, its most likely
okay this is my fastest time with any heat ill admit o.o
and ye 2 5 sacks in a row is like 0.002%? maybe 0.02
my fastest no heat run was Zag rail with 21.15
im just now reaching Hades at 19.11
couldnt tell you ms cuz i cant friggin see it
Oh right. Why is that btw?

My fastest run is still at 12:50.61
Also does Broken Spearpoint trigger from and block lava?
I’m happy with it for now
My fastest run is 7:30 as of yesterday 
I got beo fairly quickly from using Chaos a bunch
I’m am very happy with it, but it would have been even better if I hadn’t gotten f||ri||cking barge
Sub 20?
oh hell no xD
21:23. sadly didnt even beat my personal best. without the heat i probly wouldve beaten it by like 5 minutes
no 10 heat
i wasnt like speedrunning speedrunning
There’s no way the heat added 5 minutes
In fact, EM2 saves time
Speedrunners do 9 heat. EM2 and FO2
imagine enemies without DC2 with Eris tho lol
id clear all of tartarus in under 1:30 lol
im talking outta my ass all ik is tartarus usually goes by really fast lol
at least it feels that way
plus if i get meg i can usually kill her in like 15-20 seconds lol
idc about getting faster tbh i care about surviving
Just turnnon TD3 FO2 and you'll be forced to be quicker
which is why i hate the red timer lol
On my 7:30, I was out of Tartarus at 2:02. But I was out of Asphodel at 3:50ish and out of Elysium at 5:36
oh i had more health than i thought. i still had 36 and the tooth
welp now i just need to beat a run with Luci and ive done a run with every aspect of the rail
ok? i just unlocked a bunch of Themes?
UI cosmetics? interesting
Yeah it makes your end run screens prettier, most of the time
Lovely Theme makes everything better.
aphro
btw if you do an erebus gate that run doesnt count as that heat level anymore does it?
i havent even unlocked them but my gf has
Uh wat?
No, it doesn’t take your heat
You just need 5/10/15 heat to unlock them
Yesh
okay
so its a threshold thing
Doesn't deduct tho
"don't get hit" is one heck of a requirement tho
Just uptrade
Fidi and Rib are great for Erebus.
Nectar is bountiful
But Erebus has GOOD reward
Erebus hearts give 50 health, poms give 2 levels, boons are guaranteed rare and above, etc
REWARDS
Best keepsake for Coronacht?

Depends on build and aspect
Chiron I'd go dio and then work towards curse of nausea/low tolerance
Hera would be poseidon? Casts
god knowing darren is zags voice, skelly. and orpheus when hes singing. dudes got RANGE
Zag is artemis, I think
And a terribly talented musician
How does he compose all of the music
yeah. i love all of it
It's dumb how good the guy is
We All Become has been on my Phone since i platinumed Transistor lol
I finally heard Orpheus sing
Best Hera start is
for speed and for high heat.
It's chilling
Wait till you hear his lament
Is Rama just the best
I hear good things about it
also yeah I can;t wait to hear more from Orpheus
Hymn to Zagreus is great
I love the high notes
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Pretty good
Comes down to preference
So zag still a good choice then
Rama is the best bow for high heat. Hera is the best for speed.
Chiron is good for trickshots
btw whats an infernal gate?
Fascinatingly good damage output at 5 I'd say
Feels awesome with poseidon pushing people across the room
Yeah I'm not gonna deny the dps is bad
You enter Erebus through Infernal Gates.
ohhh its a challenge room gotcha. crap i gotta clear one without taking damage
We were just talking about Erebus.
If you get hit, you get onions
If you don’t
You get a reward
Yeah.

is a reward, too.
Doesn't even heal health at higher LC
oh i thought that was just a trophy challenge
I apologise deeply for my mistakes
Sadge
For your courage and bravery.
ty
I wrote a Hera guide for Crush Shot start here. #h1-discussion message
And a more general Cast build guide: #h1-builds-and-combat message
I just beat 32 heat with Demeter fists. That means I have now beat 32 heat with 50% of the aspects and at least once on each weapon 
Do 40 next. 
I did
I did 40 heat on Beo and Rama
No.
Oh
40 on all aspects.
Well I still have to get 32 on the other 12 aspects
Have you even done this?
Naturally.
Ok I’m not surprised but I was just checking
have you done super soaker 40 heat?
Ew.

Super soaker is fun but not for high heat imo
It’s only fun when you don’t have to think about how bad it is
the hellfire orbs look really pretty with arty's green
thats what i got in my one luci run lol
i do not like that aspect. sorry i love the aspect. i cant play it very well lol
eris go brrrr
Yellow beams ftw
hestia's still my favorite
what i thinking is mad crasy though, because they making the fighting harder since they fixed taht bugs too ?
Actually what?
Zeus
oh henlo nyana mew, how is the day s going so far to you?
You prefer pink laser on Lucifer?
Aphro always
Absolutely.
i think it not stronger than red laser but lucifer mad power ful so it hard to say
Do you prefer it because you like Aphrodite and you’re good enough to make more things work, or because you believe it’s optimal?
Lady Aphrodite's boons are always optimal.
You take Aphrodite attack on Eris then?
i seeing it called both way and i knew to seeing game, i ussualy watching stream
i can asking QA for help too if too hard to say
i thinking that boons for making game easier may be bugging out too though
Probably Passion Dash or Heartbreak Flourish over Attack, but sure.
so um...is it just me or does zag have way more voice lines for the other weapons than on the Rail
They're the same, lady Aphrodite is just more formal
at most i hear "Its reloading" and nothing else, meanwhile i hear like 3-5 lines for the other weapons
oh ok, thank @wise oasis !
yeah basilly if u want to make progress faster
that make sense for it too, but to sometimes i thinking, what pro fessional when they play? i as k now
@granite ether when you ussualy getting boons after max playthrough?
i thinking it too hard for me this time though
What about when Zagreus says yippie ki-yay when using the gun?
"I'll be back."
No?
die hard reference
Classic Zag lines.
who Zag ? he new god?
i cant tell if youre kidding or not
@burnt breach
Zagreus is a lesser known god in Mythology but hes still in there
Yeah this feels like you have to be trolling at this point
oh ok, that making sense! i still newer in this time
trolling?
i been here for some time in this server now
o form lithua
I
its debated whether he was Zeus or Hades' son and hes usually depicted as the God of Blood and Life
(Or As Dionysus)
it not ok for foreinger ot being here?
stop it now xD
@tacit lodge it not ok for foreign here, if so i leave but i thought it ok
youll get a song written
Nobody said that
nobody said you cant be here mate
You’re obviously allowed to be here
Zagreus is 扎格列欧斯
but i speaking for to you and you sainyg i troll?
But maybe stop pinging so many people
i will try and learn it better for next time!
we were talking about nyan
No, it was because you asked who Zag was and if Aphrodite and Lady Aphrodite were different people
OK< now it time for hadeess again, let think about best boon for fighting with shields today!
i new to it so it hard
Guys, English is obviously not their first language; give them a break
good luck! 加油!
Also I didn't know Pony understood Chinese! Intriguing
The only person who can call me that is Lady Aphrodite.
i learned like rudimentary chinese and then after one semester they cut the class
I'm assuming their first language is chinese from their pfp, and yes I do speak chinese
thanking you for this much defiance, so when they haveing fire damages, do you hold it together for boons later?
Yep, the correct way to address nyaa is nyaa
you can neither confirm nor deny that i am or am not Lady Aphrodite in disguise :3
There's no fire damage in this game, unfortunately
I can though. 
nyaana meww saying not respond to message much, i think anger a her so i sorry
wishing she talk some more
Also, you pinged someone here who has not been on the server in almost 8 months. Try to avoid pings like that unless you know that the person won’t mind
HADES BOONS CMON BRO LEMME BURN EVERYTHING
Hephaestus Boons
Hephaestus boons
just you wait
Hestia is the goddess of the hearth
Hephaestus is the god of fire
@umbral whale you should come hang when she streams, though. https://www.twitch.tv/courtenberry
Voice actor, improviser, and washed-up star of an animated TV series that lasted 5 episodes. These days, I voice Dusa and Aphrodite in the rogue-like RPG Hades from Supergiant Games (and also voiced Ti'zo in Pyre), and perform improv at The Second City and Upright Citizens Brigade Theater in LA.
Hestia is also known as a goddess of flame because hearths are.. on fire. shes also the goddess of cooking and to gain favor in a long journey, as she is the goddess of travel as well, travelers would carry a lit torch to ward off evil
i saying this to much, but thinking for spear being strongest in game?
and how it dashing so much, i see thunder dash with twice?
Isn’t the god of travel Hermes
Swiftness
Yeah explain how that's something to be a god of
I'll wait
theres actually a bit of overlap with the gods and Hestia is the least talked-about goddess because she doesnt get involved in drama like the other olympians
tink he barry allen
Gods can be of multiple things
(See; Apollo)
Also god of roads, trickery, messaging and much more
Spear is pretty strong, yeah, and you can dash more by using your mirror
Does that make him a Road Runner?
Mmmmmmmmm that headcanon is on you, bud
How can you be the god of fireplaces
I would pay big to hear the VA for Hermes say MEEP MEEP now lmao
but theres recorded history of the many ways greeks would honor Goddess Hestia through their life. Like.. Fun Fact! When giving an offering of food to the gods during a dinner or feast, Hestia is always given the first portion
There are plenty of interpretations of all the gods at different places and at different times. Always gotta keep that in mind when discussing Greek mythology.
I asking what light in water mean? it make noise and shine but it kind of puzzle?
thats Fishing
God of Madness Dionysus is best Dionysus
Fishing point
Oh ok, huh i wonder why can t put emote of meduhsa on nyanna mew message?
Take the fish you catch to the head chef for bonus loot
it need donate maybe?
You can fish! When it goes down, you hit the [interact] key and you get a fish
it wo nt let emote on nyana message for reason?
i try addemote to nyanna it go away
number go up then down
why would you emote on a 10 min old message tho
Dude i swear I've maxed both Talos AND Demeter
i message for emote on later message but it no work sosrry for that
If Asterius doesn't give me Gilgamesh someone's getting magnet uppercut
gutess it against rules
How would that be breaking a rule?
god give me a trap in a room i crave death! (im doing suicide runs to just offload nectar
oh crap i did it again
Chaos refuses to give me Beowulf

i wondering that ttoo, but since i can t do it it migh t be bad, i think i on thin ice here
its almost 6am. i work today x.x i need sleep
noy many people in server here like me much too i think
Think imma drop the heat
so i stay quite too this time! it ok! let hadees playing being!
Language barriers suck, hm
It’s 10:38 here and I haven’t slept
or maybe i should asking moderator for permission to place emote?
id just run chaos shield at 0 heat with the egg and keep trying chaos and if they dont say it just sit on a spike
then do it again lol
Maybe not right now, but not a bad idea
If you can't react to a message with an emote, it's because you've been blocked by that person.
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Nyaa...?
i just noticed your pic is Aerith Nya
i thought friends for all but i guess not so much this time, sorry nyan for talking in lithua english! i learn better then we talk maybe?
i need to beat the remake x.x but so many other games have my attention right now lol
I don't think it's a racial issue
Ah yes, funny sword woman
Either that or Discord's on crack
it seeem taht way thoughing, she say i speak bad and call me troll so i guess it bad though, i be careful!
it ok we all here for hadee!
nya wasnt the one who called you a troll afaik
nyana just miss for all cool talking with us
It's definitely nothing to do with race, but that's not a discussion for this chat, anyway.
I used to be in a server that used reactions for things, always awkward being asked why someone cant react to your post 
Lmao must be a shock

it ok nyana mew, it seeming this way for while but you can keeping local feelings there, it time for hadee discussiong!
im old. yall kids with yer emotes and emojis are just too much fer me
Oh gods, it’s Johan
Meanwhile I'm 17 and really am not a fan
You concern me
okay so do i have to give each god one ambrosia to advance the story? or do i gotta MAX max them out?
Zoomers and Boomers uniting under one thing
ok, so it hard for this time since nyana is messsaging master for hadee so i have lessing info now, but i asking rin this time.
The world as we know it is screwed
Speak your mind. Just sprinkle some Hades in there, Shootbob
when big sword with dash have lighting? i see that in soemtime this way?
Give all of em nectars
Then be prepared to wait
im the youngest a millennial can be
A lot.
For Epilogue?
You need to max 6 of them (Most of them to 7, Demeter to 6, Hermes to 8)
is this your worst nightmare?
so ambrosia isnt required?
It is but not for every god
Im starting to think Demeter unlocks post ending
damn i was hoping i could turn this ambrosia to blood lol
When you have a Zeus boon!
She does, her quest is to do the epilogue to unlock her last heart
orpheus is gonna put me to sleep x.x
Figures
taht good then, zeus king of gods and dad father too all!
Demeter’s 7th heart unlocks because of the epilogue, so getting her to 6 works
Yep and there isn't even a task
@tall lotusYou said you're from Lithuania right?
yes! that from where i am!
Do they play Hades there?
Play God of the Dead
i dont have the music player unlocked
Play The Unseen Ones
we not have much for gaming, at leasting for me! i watching streamers lot lately
but i do have youtube
One Ambrosia is enough to max your relationship with any Olympian but Lord Hermes, who requires two.
crap that means i need more ambrosia.
Gotcha. I'd recommend using the sword, my friend. When you get around to playing
mayube someone asking nyana question for me, i think using for zeus boon and want ask her for what boon is best?
Hermes requires 2 out of spite
Then kill that braggard already
Can we both agree he deserves it though?
well next time i play ill just offload the rest of my nectar and then maybe get to Hades with Arthur so i can get 2
Nah, no need to talk to Nyaan. You can ask us instead.
I think legit my only use for Nectar now is trading for diamonds
Pretty sure i capped everybody out
that good to here this time! since it harder since nyaa no much and help lot
i guess i asking for to someone else now this time
Ah, I gotcha.
its better to not just ask one person alone for advice
😮 wait i didnt have to buy all that crazy crap from the lounge?
I missing for when Aggy say some advice too
eyy now i got 4 diamonds
You don't HAVE to take the deals...
they have mad smart
Though sometimes they're good
OH I not SEEing this earler! it Nikola on line!
@cloud arch how is the day for this time, it good lithua time but it hard to talk recent this time
i think it for hadees i say that shield is strongest
holy crap Arthurs aspect is so bright

Oh i thought thought of something
@hearty sierra Fire damage
https://streamable.com/u7r6i5
You want really easy Ambro?
what you thinking about dash with twice? @spare tiger what boon for that?
Extra dashes?
Hermes
wait why did it loop the hangover dash?
I'm not personally a fan of more dashes though
Holy crap
because it's Hestia's dash not Dio
that crazy for this time! so good then for hermes with that
Okay, I had no idea this was in the works
Honestly impressive
How did you get an extra status effect?
Ok rin as i was saying
i mentioned my next serious run would be to beat hades with Arthur for more Ambrosia. then ill get 3 in one run
If you want an easy 2 ambro
Visit the locker and equip every keepsake 1 by 1
Then go to the fated list
oh right. i forgot about that one
I can explain if you're interested, but this is not the place tbh
Gotta leave the locker after each equip
Yeah ping me in the other server
you can join the modding discord, the invite is pinned in #self-promotion
wait dont i have to do a run with it?
You can just trade up Chthonic Keys and Nectar for Ambrosia.
Nope lmao
Literally just equipping them satisfies the fated
nya i still need the nectar to max out the gods FOR the ambrosia lol
actually lemme see if i even have enough nectar
Well, do more runs. 
If you want a way to get each god during a run
Pick up their keepsake in between regions
Worst comes to worst, you get some special dialogue from Hermes
Who'd have thought the three beings responsible for the course of the whole world were so damn easy to please?
okay so i need 2 more nectar than i have
1 more nectar. i had 5 keys lol
alright now im going to bed
sun rises so i must fall
if i werent so bloodthirsty id have all the resources id need but i didnt know the conclusion to the story required it i thought i wouldnt need ambrosia til the end endgame xD
You'll need to do their "favors" before you can gift them Ambrosia anyway.
Epilogue is supposed to take awhile.
Is there anything specific I need to do to get the hidden aspect on fists. I’ve done almost everything in this game but have yet to get these. I’ve even gotten the dialogue from him about my fists being bare while wearing them. Have since ran into him (by himself) a lot of times now.😔
Pin in #h1-story-discussion lists all the requirements.
Ok, I’ll take a look. Appreciate it.
Ah, yup. Did all that 😞
The rng aspect of this game can be incredibly annoying/tedious especially when it’s concerning story.
I mean you're getting plenty of story progress, it's just not in the specific order you want.
I’m actually pretty stalled out
Everyone is at their max
Just no one wants an ambrosia
So I’m literally waiting for the game to “allow” me to complete the story
the rng regarding story progress is less frustrating when you don't actually know what is reuqired
Gotta play game to do favors and stuff to unlock hearts.
Well yea. Buuuut did all tht lol
If you did all of that, the hearts shouldn't be all locked. 
Obviously. But when your doing the same thing over and over for well over 50hrs it can get a bit redundant waiting around on the game. Personally jut not a fan of games that don’t respect someone’s time
Your right. Like I said, they have just been sitting t the key lock stage
Like I said, I’m replaying over n over just to get someone to progress
Hence my frustration/boredom
If you did all of the favors, the odds of all of them still being locked after a run are probably pretty close to zero.
Not entirely sure how to be more clear, maybe I’m not explain myself properly. I have gotten every character to the bond stage or up till the heart keylock (ambrosia/favor stage. HOWEVER I have yet to get the requir3d dialogues needed for said favors. Which is why I. Just going in circles
So YES, I do in fact have everything as far as it can go u til the game decides (rng) and allows me to continue.
The cage in the room where you choose your weapons
It’s on the left as soon as you walk in
I understand completely. m telling you the odds of not making progress are pretty damn low. If something's taking unnaturally long, you could report a bug with F10 or ask for help in #h1-tech-support. There have been bugs preventing the unlocking of hearts before. Though they've all been fixed so far.
Oh the keepsake cabinet?
The dialogue trees can also be quite complex and full requirements to get a certain dialogue might not be listed on the wiki or wherever. So long as you keep talking to everyone with a ! and gift Nectar and Ambrosia when you can, you should be making progress.
Yes. They'll be at the bottom.
Cool. Who has one? I know Meg does, who else?
Dusa, Skelly, Achilles & Patroclus, and Sisyphus.
Doesn't Than have a Companion?
Can some please explain why Than is being so antisocial
He hasnt been at the house in 10 runs and any time I see him whilst trying to escaping he leaves before I can talk
That's just how he is.
When can you gift him?
I’m also trying to get his companion and I can never seem to talk to or gift him
I'm trying to unlock his hearts but he just never appears it's so irritating
Lots of work on the surface.
I’m one gift of ambrosia away from maxing Meg
I'm going to try max out an Aspect on every weapon
Aside from Stygius and Malphon, which aspect is the best for the other weapons?
Varatha: Achilles
Aegis: Beowulf
Coronacht: Hera for speed, Rama for heat, Chiron for ease of play
Exagryph: Eris or Hestia
So really you can do any on Coronacht
Thanks. The only hidden I need to get right now is Beo then
Same 😭
I'm gonna go for Beo now then. Let's see if I get it before you
What are the best aspects for stygius and malphon?
Malphon is Dem. Stygius is probably Arthur but I'm using Nemesis because I hate Arthur.
Credit to PonyWarrior, the genie of Hades
Dem Splitting Headache could be an amazing build actually
If I were to get ME, could I then remove Athena Special and keep ME?
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Because in that case a very strong build could be Ares Attack, Artemis Special, Athena Dash, Dio call to get ME and SH.
Merciful End
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It's a stupidly strong duo boon you get when you have Ares and Athena boons
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Same with Splitting Headache
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Splitting Headache increases crit chance and damage on enemies with hangover, Merciful End immidieately activates any Doom damage when hit with an Athena attack, with extra damage. So dash strikes deal megatonnes of damage.
You can
If you have other deflect boons
Oh things are going to get fun
It'd activate regardless
no, you need either attack or special
That's what I was thinking. Would I keep the Duo if I didn't have the presiquites?
Yeah
But it'll do nothing
If you don't regain the requirements it's either dead weight or 400 coins
I'm gonna get Athena Dash to fix that problem
You can proc Merciful End with Divine Dash.
Practicality is another matter, but yeah.
That's four specific gods and two specific Duo Boons.
Four keepsakes
I can beat Hades without a defensive keepsake
What I'll do is get ME first then try go for SH or vice versa
Odds of getting all of that aren't that great. Fated Authority would help.
Yeah. I'll just stick with ME and try to add the SH on top
But I mean if I did get that I'd be dealing so much damage
You'd have better crit chance just getting Merciful End + Deadly Reversal.
And better DPS.
You guys know what I really appreciate in this game? Piercing fire kills greatshields really handily
Greatshields always spawn facing East, by the way.
So you can easily hit them in the back when they spawn.
Why do you know that
Yeah lemme just use a compass in the underworld
The right side of your screen.
Doesn’t the sun rise infront of you when you come onto the surface
Nono, she's got a point
Wait but doesn't it set to your right?
The sun now rises in the North and sets in the east.
When you come from Hades’s boss room and the sun rises, it comes from the horizon infront of you, meaning the right of your screen is probably south
They should still let you see the surface
What if it rotates when you exit the boss "chamber".
But we established that the right is East
What if Helios got lost.
That doesn't matter
Because it rises in front of you and sets to your left
So Helios needs to fix himself
It doesn’t set though
The sun is in the sky when you’re with Persephone
When
In the sunset scene
You brain my hurt
What if Helios rises in the North on days when Zagreus reaches the surface because he knows it's the only direction in which Zag can see the sky.
You think Helios cares?
Yes
Why
He's family.
Now's not the time for that.
So we're the Titans
What happened there
As we have figured out, Helios is lost. And the sun does whatever the hell it wants
I find it funny how all the Titans have titan-y names
And then there’s just
Phoebe
Ugh I have to get my hair cut so I can't get Beo
Sad
I want Lernie as a pet
I've decided. I shall kidnap the bone Hydra
How
Zag will figure out a way
Lazy
Hades definitely goes easy on you
not on the second phase he doesn't
Second phase is easier
at the very least there are no minions
at least that's what I thought
until skull went flying
and BAM
60 damage

And then he summoned sum minions
I think mother would be a better opponent
Which of Lernies heads is easiest to beat for everyone?
For me slam is really easy
Lava
Malphon, Coronacht, Aegis
Punch
Demeter’s look the best
To put into Shield
For Beo do I need to have Aegis equipped?
I can borrow from Charon
Wow Charon is hard
you need to have the shield equipped and talk to chaos once, have them comment on it
for the actual awakening phase it does not
Angery
steps for all hidden aspects are pinned in #h1-story-discussion
Ik how to
Chaos just bullies me
I just had to play without attack on Zeus Aegis for 3 encounters
I wanna fight Charon again
Two Lights of Ixon in one run.
Chaos give me my shield.
They didn't even speak to me that time.
Can you fight Charon in Styx
no
Dead dad with uncles shield
EM3 DC1 should be manageable, right?
Time to fight a car and a Beyblade again.
why did hades comment about me unlocking pact of punishment 34 runs after i did, is it supposed to work like that? some other conversations also feel like they are weirdly late
can hangover crit
yes
this is a symptom of how the dialogue system works. the game only checks that you've met x requirement for dialogue, and then that dialogue is entered into a pool of possible text that can come up when you speak with an npc. so in this case, hades remarking on the pact requires you unlock it, so once you meet that condition, that dialogue can come up at any time, it just does not necessarily come up immediately after unlocking it. this is why some dialogue seems to appear much later than you expect
I adore the amount of love put into this game
I have a Question
Actually
2 questions
So how does the shield hidden aspect work
If my casts are stronger
Does that make dragon rush stronger
Or is it my attack damage?
And do I seriously have to get the third area every time and fight the Minotaur to unlock the hidden aspect for the guantlet
Loading a cast will make your rush stronger (+100% at max lvl)
Your cast are also released at the end of the rush
Is like melee hera, but casts dont get lodged
No that’s not what I meant
The casts in the rush
How do I increase their damage
Pom the cast
They deal like 50 I think
Or pick a different one from the gods
Dragon rush doesnt get affected by what cast
Is Zeus aspect for shield considered decent when just unlocking it, or does it need to be maxed out?
As long you load one the next rush will be stronger
Rush damage gets affected by what boon you pick on attack
What gods cast should I use if I wanna get a cast run going
poseidon, aphrodite
Demeter/ares/dio with achilles is also fun
I had a really good run with poseidon aspect and artemis cast
With exit wounds
And 5 casts
is 5 casts a hermes thing?
chaos boons
I just had the most scuffed run
yeah i just spent the titans blood i got from the infernal arms prophecy on getting poseidon aspect to lvl 3
alright thanks
Chiron bow with 5 dashes gave me carpal tunnel
Artemis legendary, chaos, and charon well items give casts
Arte legendary being a myth 
Yeah legendaries are very rare
I have 50 something runs and only got legendary boons like 4 times?
Maybe 5
Most legendaries only needs 1 boon for a chance to get it
Not counting the fishing one
Artemis legendary needs 2, and if using a non lodging cast you barely can get the 2 requisites
When you see a flash it means you can catch the fish
god damnit i need more god keepsakes
Oh i thought it was when it vibrated
i keep forgetting to just give em the nectar
If you press the catch button very fast you can get perfect catch
Idk what bonuses it gives tho
Propably just more rewards when turning it in
Maybe an achievement
Perfect catch is chance for legendary or guaranteed rare, normal catch is rare fish or normal
You can practice fishing in the house with my mod, Pony's quality of life
@umbral whale how'd it go with eris?
hmmm hide breaker or hunters mark
or should i use my one reroll to look for exit wounds
Im doing a poseidon aspect artemis cast run
What's the third option?
I would have maybe taken pressure points, but rolling for exit wounds may have been best. It's pretty decent on poseidon sword, but meh on everything else
i think it was artemis attack
I used my roll on chaos instead and got a +1 cast so it worked out in the end :D
Yep that works
Question
So you guys told me you could have a relationship with three of the characters just one I assume or something but like do I just not fill up the Cupid hearts on one and go for the other like?
you can have a relationship with all 3
yup
They'd ask you,"one can, toucan, three can?"
They're not necessarily rare, but it requires very good knowledge of builds to be able to get them consistently.
Mainly because most of them need very specific requirements
Ares legendary needs 2 specific boons
i lost my cast run when hades had literally a sliver of health left, i need to punch something
For you to even to get the chance
so does Artemis and demeter
what's a brother gotta do to get some exit wounds man
check the codex
Exit Wounds doesn't do too much anyway.
it doesn't do much but he had a sliver of health left so if i had exit wounds it would've done enough to make it a successful run
Pain
I wrote a Cast Build Guide if you're interested in that. #h1-builds-and-combat message
oh nice, thanks
im so frustrated omg if i wasnt so impatient it would've been a successful ruuuun
Tbh idk how I win I just play and have 23 success out of 51
especially artemis cast where im just praying for crits lmao
It’s my first time playing. It I play like 10 other rouge likes though so prolly that
Same!
I beat hades on my 7th run
i dont play any other roguelikes, i generally don't like roguelikes
I like rouge likes a lot like beating them within my first day
Rougelikes have infinite value
the only other roguelike im considering trying really is noita after i feel like ive had enough hades
it took me 15 runs to beat up hades
i think i only have to beat him a couple more times to finish the story
10
yeah im on 8
Also you haven’t finished the story
To finish the story
I know
Oh okay
Gods max my friend wouldn’t shut up about it mimicking me and stuff prolly mad cause he’s on attempt 160 and only one once
Idk how
He gets such good runs and still loses I don’t understand how
attempt 160 omg
some people are just not gamers, it took my friend 3 hours to beat meg lol
It took me a short time too it’s a good first boss tbh it teaches you about the ropes of the first area
different people learn at different speeds
they probably tilting or they don't get to the choke often enough to learn from it
yeah especially if they don't play roguelikes
The isometric perspective kinda throws people off too if they're only used to playing first person or top down games
He’s played rougelikes with me like he’s play 10-15 as well as me
Idk how he does it
also i just know some people that don't like analyze their gameplay at all they'll just make the same until a guide tells them what to do and suddenly no problem
Just unlocked the gun weapon and it’s so bad lol, why’s it the last unlock
Gun is not bad tbh
cus it's good actually
I have around 7 heat or 6 on my gun
Yea it’s not bad, it’s horrible
12heat with the gun 
But it takes me a while to get heat on weapons cause I grind the loot at lower difficulty
I bump up when I’m done with hades with that level of heat
And why do you think it’s bad?
i just as a law always take max heat darkness weapon
I use to do that then I was bored with grinding and played sword alot
It’s just much better options honestly, the fact you have to reload and the strong move takes forever to hit
oh I'm not really grinding I'm refusing to grind, ya know get into a safe rhythm
gun's got it's own moments
reason you get it so late is cus the gun is relatively sensitive to your builds
It has good damage output it’s special is fine as it’s damage for a longer special is good and some boons make that gun really good
Oops
Boons I meant idk why autocorrect did me dirty
I see
Like Dionysus attack is amazing on the gun bosses get shredded by tick damage
Btw I’m playing on ps5, is the game also on ps4?
Yes I play on ps4
It run good?
ps5 was like a later port i think
Looks really good at 4K
Wait this evergreen acorn keepsake I got is actually cracked
No hits on bosses for 3 hits
If my Garbo laptop can run Hades with no issues a PS4 is probably 3x more powerful than nessesary to run it lol
sg doesn't really get lazy with their ports yeah 
It was like 15 FPS
Oof

That emote is funny haha
what's wrong with your ps4 ?
i get 30 on switch and that's basically an oversized phone
Thata what I'm saying. I get a solid 30fps no dips on a laptop that barely runs my pixel art games lmao. Ps4 can run gran Turismo sport tier games. I can't imagine how a PS4 isn't leaps and bounds overpowered for hades
The first bass note in "The Painful Way" hits so damn good
Do you guys use chaos when you get the RNG portals? Doesn’t seem worth it most of the time
Chaos is worth it unless you're about to hit a boss
anyways chaos, tis law
And depending on the build, even then sometimes
always*
Like, if I'm doing a cast build I'm always taking chaos
Ok thank you
Are Zeus shield and Talos fists decent when unlocked, or do they need to be maxed out to be effective?
3:03 Tartarus on 52 heat 👀
Dionysus has such good voice lines
Zeus is very useful because you can stack status effects easily even at Common. I'm terrible with the Fists in general so I'll refrain from commenting
Wyd
Wdym
Just that switch often struggles to run things, but not hades in my experience
Oh no I’m fine my game only crashes soemtimes cause it was released what a week ago on console?
OH Oh you misunderstood something i was referring to AnimeLIst saying they get 15 frames and i'm just lost at how that happened
Oh idk
shame about supergiant moving on from the game tho 😭
I know their like approach probably lends to a healthy work environment but sure wish it got like a dlc
would gladly put another 200 hours in the game, but it's just the heat climb left
you can try mods
I kind of got a tumultuous relationship with mods 
But i was more referring to story, the mechanical depth i have no complaints about
Because my thinkpad had like 32 mb of VRAM
But I’m playing on ps5 now so it’s fine
Do i have to have the rail equipped while talking to zeus for him to say the awakening quote
yep
What hammers are even good when im doing a poseidon sword artemis cast build
The double special hit is nice
you need to talk to him with the rail so that he acknowledges that you have it, but don't need it for the awakening phrase. It's 2 separate conversations, and his attack boon is one of the best ones for rail so it works out anyway
if you don't like regular rail, upgrade Hestia a little and try that, think of it as a single-shot cannon
After passing Cerberus, do I fight Hades right away?
Or maybe right before passing him
I was thinking of getting Strong Drink but it may be useless if I don’t get another fountain
straight into dad
Damn
My hp was only 12 heading in like at least give me some hp
Beat the game on my 15th attempt
How many tries did it take you guys the first time?
45 attempts iirc
reaching the sack gives you a fountain tho? unless you do more tunnels after in that case thats on you
could be post sack charon boon
Ur trolling?
why would i be lol
Well it would have probably taken me more if I didn’t play the pc version like 3 months ago
That shield throw move + doom is op
Took me 23
I only had one death defiant too
if i give up, will it end my streak?
Yes
ok
it doesnt
It wont
It'll just send you back to the courtyard
successful escape streak
Winstreak
Btw hades was the easiest boss in the game
aight
ngl same
That duo boss was insane tho
Ohhhh ok
second try i beat hades
Really? Idk where that was
Asterius is cool in my books
after you do your first tunnel is rng how many tunnels takes you to find it
so it could be the 2nd tunnel or the last
What happens if I were to take it in the first tunnel?
If it’s in the first tunnel
So the more tunnels I go through, the higher my chance then?
You'll know when you got it, it'll be a chamber with a fountain, sack, reward and no enemies
dont trust the elite sign either, there's a chance you'll get the sack from that room
yeah the rng is not whether or not it appears; it always appears (if you don't die before you get to it). it will appear anywhere from the 2nd to the 5th tunnel you try
you will be required to interact with it in order to continue the game, like Tsura said you'll know it when you see it
Oh yeah now that I think back I think I did get one in like my 2nd or 3rd tunnel
Although I pretty much lost all that hp later on
Through the other tunnels
once you get it, trying other tunnels will not get you a fountain, and is generally not the best if you are just worried about surviving because the fountain is the strongest source of healing you get in Styx
and practically the only one tbh
so if surviving is the goal you might want to avoid chipping away at health by trying other tunnels after you get the fountain
Hades is so hard to dodge compared to the other bosses
Like the other bosses I dodged their attacks pretty well
Hades is a different story
he goes big
Yessir
That was the farthest I’ve gone, and now I gotta restart the whole run again 💀
Hey
Would you say someone has “beat the game” if they completed one run ?
10 runs is the major story
I kinda do since your only really missing dialogue in the other runs
I don't, you got a clear but a real win is 10 clears
"beating the game" for me includes completing the main story
Do any of the other runs have different bosses or anything crazy different besides the story?
you can fight Charon afterwards as an optional boss once you beat Hades once
I know the first boss changes btw
You can change the difficulty with whatever you want including boss and miniboss changes


