#h1-discussion

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high island
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80%.

umbral whale
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less than 100% at least xD

reef zodiac
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Wait for real? Lmao I literally did not know that in my 380+ runs

weary jackal
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For some reason I’ve started killing Theseus before Asterius more often now

umbral whale
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i noticed it my first time reaching the boss fight

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cuz i ALWAYS got asterius as my miniboss for my first 5 trips to elysium

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Asterius was my first elysium death actually

high island
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Well, 380+ runs is like you learned to walk and count to 10.

weary jackal
reef zodiac
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Does that mean Asterius miniboss isn’t really all that much time loss compared to soul catcher? Or does that 20% health not really make a difference

high island
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It's not that bad for IGT. It's pretty bad for RTA.

reef zodiac
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Butterfly ball is way easier and faster. Asterius (especially with FO2 EM3) can be a nightmare

weary jackal
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Yeah
Teleports behind you “Nothing personal, Short one”

reef zodiac
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I don’t understand why anyone would prefer Asterius over soul catcher

umbral whale
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always say hi to my fan

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lost one DD but ill pick up lucky tooth just to be safe

short glen
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I'm dreading when my runs reach a heat sufficient to need em3

weary jackal
high island
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He's easy solo, and it makes the boss fight easier.

reef zodiac
high island
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If it's not EM3, anyway.

weary jackal
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EM3, Damage Control, and Forced overtime are my go-to heat conditions

reef zodiac
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EM3 Asterius miniboss definitely sucks

weary jackal
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EM3, DC2, FO2, HS, and… I think CP1 are what I use for 15 heat

limber mist
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What’s the quickest/most efficient way to rack up darkness? If there is any that is. I’m simply going for the 3k restoration.

reef zodiac
umbral whale
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does damage control not work on vermin?

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im still oneshotting them it feels

high island
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I think I still haven't done DC, AP, and RI in my hell mode save lol.

weary jackal
umbral whale
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or do the opposite and go for chaos with the egg

weary jackal
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Egg doesn’t increase Chaos’s spawn rate

reef zodiac
limber mist
weary jackal
forest falcon
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he gives you blessings similar to ocean's bounty

high island
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Master Chaos's pronouns are they/them.

forest falcon
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I remember getting one that was +150 something % bonus on darkness , gems and money

reef zodiac
umbral whale
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like 198% darkness high

weary jackal
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Eclipse

reef zodiac
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Always gift Bouldy bouldy

limber mist
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Interesting. Will definitely be on the lookout. @umbral whale

weary jackal
limber mist
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Let me see if I've ever gotten it at the desk

umbral whale
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mmf... support arrows that actually do good damage

weary jackal
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Obviously it comes with a curse too

reef zodiac
umbral whale
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im still in my eris run

limber mist
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@weary jackal yea, seems like they're mostly always worth it

weary jackal
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I got myself killed on hydra once ‘cause I forgot I had the damage on cast curse

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(Not like, fully killed, I just used a DD)

limber mist
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Yup lol

umbral whale
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ugh come on styx gimme the bag of rats already

limber mist
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I'll hear the notification a curse has been lifted and like oh crap totally forgot. That makes sense now lol

wise oasis
whole ridge
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Yeah, 4-sack is suffering

weary jackal
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pain

umbral whale
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im on 3

whole ridge
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That's worse

wise oasis
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I got 2 5-sacks in a row

whole ridge
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3 sack is alright, but I much prefer my 2 sacks

wise oasis
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absolute agony

weary jackal
umbral whale
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got it

whole ridge
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I seem to get 2 sack most often, but yeah

hearty sierra
wise oasis
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2 sacks have a 56% chance of happening, its most likely

umbral whale
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okay this is my fastest time with any heat ill admit o.o

wise oasis
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and ye 2 5 sacks in a row is like 0.002%? maybe 0.02

umbral whale
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my fastest no heat run was Zag rail with 21.15

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im just now reaching Hades at 19.11

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couldnt tell you ms cuz i cant friggin see it

wise oasis
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eris is insane

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and dw ms isnt measured for times in this game for speedruns and such

reef zodiac
wise oasis
weary jackal
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My fastest run is still at 12:50.61

reef zodiac
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Also does Broken Spearpoint trigger from and block lava?

weary jackal
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I’m happy with it for now

reef zodiac
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My fastest run is 7:30 as of yesterday shadesmile

weary jackal
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Chaos won’t give me Beowulf

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They’re Bulling me I swear

hearty sierra
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I got beo fairly quickly from using Chaos a bunch

reef zodiac
umbral whale
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DAYUM

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i was really reckless and nearly lost my lucky tooth DD but i got him

reef zodiac
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Sub 20?

umbral whale
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oh hell no xD

reef zodiac
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Was it 20 heat?

umbral whale
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21:23. sadly didnt even beat my personal best. without the heat i probly wouldve beaten it by like 5 minutes

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no 10 heat

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i wasnt like speedrunning speedrunning

reef zodiac
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There’s no way the heat added 5 minutes

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In fact, EM2 saves time

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Speedrunners do 9 heat. EM2 and FO2

umbral whale
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imagine enemies without DC2 with Eris tho lol

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id clear all of tartarus in under 1:30 lol

reef zodiac
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No you would not

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1:30 is an absurd Tartarus time

umbral whale
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im talking outta my ass all ik is tartarus usually goes by really fast lol

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at least it feels that way

hearty sierra
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Dw man you get there with practice

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If you ever wanna go and get faster

umbral whale
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plus if i get meg i can usually kill her in like 15-20 seconds lol

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idc about getting faster tbh i care about surviving

hearty sierra
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Just turnnon TD3 FO2 and you'll be forced to be quicker

umbral whale
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which is why i hate the red timer lol

reef zodiac
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On my 7:30, I was out of Tartarus at 2:02. But I was out of Asphodel at 3:50ish and out of Elysium at 5:36

umbral whale
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oh i had more health than i thought. i still had 36 and the tooth

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welp now i just need to beat a run with Luci and ive done a run with every aspect of the rail

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ok? i just unlocked a bunch of Themes?

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UI cosmetics? interesting

hearty sierra
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Yeah it makes your end run screens prettier, most of the time

umbral whale
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jeeesus

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ok not buying any of these anytime soon lol

high island
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Lovely Theme makes everything better.

hearty sierra
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aphro

umbral whale
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btw if you do an erebus gate that run doesnt count as that heat level anymore does it?

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i havent even unlocked them but my gf has

hearty sierra
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Uh wat?

weary jackal
umbral whale
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she said erebus gates take some of your heat

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ohhh

hearty sierra
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Yesh

umbral whale
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okay

hearty sierra
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Nope

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You have to have a minimum

umbral whale
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so its a threshold thing

hearty sierra
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Doesn't deduct tho

umbral whale
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man i should unlock those then

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i only got one diamond right now tho lol

hearty sierra
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"don't get hit" is one heck of a requirement tho

hearty sierra
high island
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Fidi and Rib are great for Erebus.

hearty sierra
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Nectar is bountiful

umbral whale
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i need nectar to advance story

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to me thats more important

hearty sierra
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But Erebus has GOOD reward

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Erebus hearts give 50 health, poms give 2 levels, boons are guaranteed rare and above, etc

high island
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And obols are 200.

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That's the etc.

hearty sierra
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REWARDS

brisk trail
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Best keepsake for Coronacht?

high island
hearty sierra
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Chiron I'd go dio and then work towards curse of nausea/low tolerance

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Hera would be poseidon? Casts

umbral whale
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god knowing darren is zags voice, skelly. and orpheus when hes singing. dudes got RANGE

hearty sierra
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Zag is artemis, I think

hearty sierra
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How does he compose all of the music

umbral whale
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yeah. i love all of it

hearty sierra
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It's dumb how good the guy is

umbral whale
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We All Become has been on my Phone since i platinumed Transistor lol

brisk trail
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I finally heard Orpheus sing

high island
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Best Hera start is courte5EternalRose for speed and for high heat.

brisk trail
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It's chilling

hearty sierra
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Wait till you hear his lament

brisk trail
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Is Rama just the best

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I hear good things about it

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also yeah I can;t wait to hear more from Orpheus

weary jackal
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I love the high notes

hearty sierra
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Pretty good

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Comes down to preference

brisk trail
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So zag still a good choice then

high island
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Rama is the best bow for high heat. Hera is the best for speed.

weary jackal
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Chiron is good for trickshots

umbral whale
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btw whats an infernal gate?

high island
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Chiron is probably the best for new players.

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Just very safe.

hearty sierra
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Fascinatingly good damage output at 5 I'd say

high island
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Chiron?

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The DPS is bad.

hearty sierra
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Feels awesome with poseidon pushing people across the room

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Yeah I'm not gonna deny the dps is bad

rapid forum
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It's fun

high island
umbral whale
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ohhh its a challenge room gotcha. crap i gotta clear one without taking damage

high island
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We were just talking about Erebus.

weary jackal
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If you get hit, you get onions
If you don’t
You get a reward

high island
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Yeah.

weary jackal
high island
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onion is a reward, too.

rapid forum
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You're implying as if onions aren't a reward

hearty sierra
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Doesn't even heal health at higher LC

umbral whale
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oh i thought that was just a trophy challenge

weary jackal
hearty sierra
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Sadge

high island
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For your courage and bravery.

brisk trail
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With hera do I increase attack

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or focus on my cast damage

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above all else

hearty sierra
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Cast

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Cast is main source of dmg

brisk trail
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ty

high island
reef zodiac
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I just beat 32 heat with Demeter fists. That means I have now beat 32 heat with 50% of the aspects and at least once on each weapon shadesmile

high island
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Do 40 next. squirtdevious

reef zodiac
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I did

rapid forum
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Oh yea

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He did

reef zodiac
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I did 40 heat on Beo and Rama

high island
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No.

rapid forum
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Oh

high island
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40 on all aspects.

reef zodiac
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Well I still have to get 32 on the other 12 aspects

reef zodiac
high island
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Naturally.

reef zodiac
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Ok I’m not surprised but I was just checking

burnt breach
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have you done super soaker 40 heat?

high island
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Ew.

burnt breach
reef zodiac
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Super soaker is fun but not for high heat imo

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It’s only fun when you don’t have to think about how bad it is

high island
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Why would I do a Tempest Strike build with courte5EternalRose start?

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I'll take my pink laser tyvm.

reef zodiac
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Wait what

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Actually?

umbral whale
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the hellfire orbs look really pretty with arty's green

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thats what i got in my one luci run lol

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i do not like that aspect. sorry i love the aspect. i cant play it very well lol

burnt breach
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eris go brrrr

reef zodiac
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Yellow beams ftw

umbral whale
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hestia's still my favorite

tall lotus
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what i thinking is mad crasy though, because they making the fighting harder since they fixed taht bugs too ?

high island
reef zodiac
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Zeus

tall lotus
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oh henlo nyana mew, how is the day s going so far to you?

reef zodiac
hearty sierra
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Aphro always

high island
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Absolutely.

tall lotus
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i think it not stronger than red laser but lucifer mad power ful so it hard to say

reef zodiac
# high island Absolutely.

Do you prefer it because you like Aphrodite and you’re good enough to make more things work, or because you believe it’s optimal?

high island
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Lady Aphrodite's boons are always optimal.

reef zodiac
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You take Aphrodite attack on Eris then?

tall lotus
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it laddy aphrodite different than normla aphrodite or it same thing?

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@high island

reef zodiac
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Lmao

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Bruh

tall lotus
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i seeing it called both way and i knew to seeing game, i ussualy watching stream

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i can asking QA for help too if too hard to say

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i thinking that boons for making game easier may be bugging out too though

high island
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Probably Passion Dash or Heartbreak Flourish over Attack, but sure.

umbral whale
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so um...is it just me or does zag have way more voice lines for the other weapons than on the Rail

wise oasis
umbral whale
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at most i hear "Its reloading" and nothing else, meanwhile i hear like 3-5 lines for the other weapons

tall lotus
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oh ok, thank @wise oasis !

glacial adder
tall lotus
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that make sense for it too, but to sometimes i thinking, what pro fessional when they play? i as k now

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@granite ether when you ussualy getting boons after max playthrough?

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i thinking it too hard for me this time though

high island
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What about when Zagreus says yippie ki-yay when using the gun?

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"I'll be back."

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No?

burnt breach
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die hard reference

high island
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Classic Zag lines.

tall lotus
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who Zag ? he new god?

umbral whale
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i cant tell if youre kidding or not

tall lotus
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@burnt breach

umbral whale
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Zagreus is a lesser known god in Mythology but hes still in there

reef zodiac
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Yeah this feels like you have to be trolling at this point

tall lotus
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oh ok, that making sense! i still newer in this time

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trolling?

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i been here for some time in this server now

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o form lithua

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I

umbral whale
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its debated whether he was Zeus or Hades' son and hes usually depicted as the God of Blood and Life

weary jackal
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(Or As Dionysus)

tall lotus
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it not ok for foreinger ot being here?

umbral whale
tall lotus
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@tacit lodge it not ok for foreign here, if so i leave but i thought it ok

umbral whale
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youll get a song written

tall lotus
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they say i can not be here for this whay i talk

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not english well

reef zodiac
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Nobody said that

umbral whale
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nobody said you cant be here mate

reef zodiac
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You’re obviously allowed to be here

burnt breach
tall lotus
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but i speaking for to you and you sainyg i troll?

reef zodiac
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But maybe stop pinging so many people

tall lotus
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i will try and learn it better for next time!

umbral whale
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we were talking about nyan

tall lotus
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oh ok, my reading is bad sometimes

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this good now!

reef zodiac
tall lotus
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OK< now it time for hadeess again, let think about best boon for fighting with shields today!

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i new to it so it hard

hearty sierra
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Guys, English is obviously not their first language; give them a break

burnt breach
hearty sierra
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Also I didn't know Pony understood Chinese! Intriguing

high island
umbral whale
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i learned like rudimentary chinese and then after one semester they cut the class

burnt breach
tall lotus
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thanking you for this much defiance, so when they haveing fire damages, do you hold it together for boons later?

hearty sierra
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Yep, the correct way to address nyaa is nyaa

umbral whale
hearty sierra
high island
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I can though. courte5Wut

tall lotus
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nyaana meww saying not respond to message much, i think anger a her so i sorry

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wishing she talk some more

reef zodiac
umbral whale
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HADES BOONS CMON BRO LEMME BURN EVERYTHING

weary jackal
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Hephaestus Boons
Hephaestus boons

umbral whale
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yeah thatd be better

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or yknow

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Hestia

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goddess of flame

burnt breach
weary jackal
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Hestia is the goddess of the hearth
Hephaestus is the god of fire

hearty sierra
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I stan modders

high island
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@umbral whale you should come hang when she streams, though. https://www.twitch.tv/courtenberry

Twitch

Voice actor, improviser, and washed-up star of an animated TV series that lasted 5 episodes. These days, I voice Dusa and Aphrodite in the rogue-like RPG Hades from Supergiant Games (and also voiced Ti'zo in Pyre), and perform improv at The Second City and Upright Citizens Brigade Theater in LA.

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umbral whale
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Hestia is also known as a goddess of flame because hearths are.. on fire. shes also the goddess of cooking and to gain favor in a long journey, as she is the goddess of travel as well, travelers would carry a lit torch to ward off evil

tall lotus
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i saying this to much, but thinking for spear being strongest in game?

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and how it dashing so much, i see thunder dash with twice?

weary jackal
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Isn’t the god of travel Hermes

spare tiger
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Yeah explain how that's something to be a god of

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I'll wait

umbral whale
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theres actually a bit of overlap with the gods and Hestia is the least talked-about goddess because she doesnt get involved in drama like the other olympians

slow geyser
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tink he barry allen

weary jackal
hearty sierra
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Also god of roads, trickery, messaging and much more

hearty sierra
spare tiger
hearty sierra
weary jackal
spare tiger
umbral whale
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but theres recorded history of the many ways greeks would honor Goddess Hestia through their life. Like.. Fun Fact! When giving an offering of food to the gods during a dinner or feast, Hestia is always given the first portion

high island
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There are plenty of interpretations of all the gods at different places and at different times. Always gotta keep that in mind when discussing Greek mythology.

tall lotus
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I asking what light in water mean? it make noise and shine but it kind of puzzle?

weary jackal
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God of Madness Dionysus is best Dionysus

tall lotus
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Oh ok, huh i wonder why can t put emote of meduhsa on nyanna mew message?

spare tiger
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Take the fish you catch to the head chef for bonus loot

tall lotus
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it need donate maybe?

hearty sierra
tall lotus
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it wo nt let emote on nyana message for reason?

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i try addemote to nyanna it go away

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number go up then down

umbral whale
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why would you emote on a 10 min old message tho

spare tiger
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Dude i swear I've maxed both Talos AND Demeter

tall lotus
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i message for emote on later message but it no work sosrry for that

spare tiger
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If Asterius doesn't give me Gilgamesh someone's getting magnet uppercut

tall lotus
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gutess it against rules

spare tiger
umbral whale
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god give me a trap in a room i crave death! (im doing suicide runs to just offload nectar

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oh crap i did it again

weary jackal
tall lotus
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i wondering that ttoo, but since i can t do it it migh t be bad, i think i on thin ice here

umbral whale
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its almost 6am. i work today x.x i need sleep

tall lotus
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noy many people in server here like me much too i think

spare tiger
tall lotus
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so i stay quite too this time! it ok! let hadees playing being!

hearty sierra
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Language barriers suck, hm

weary jackal
tall lotus
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or maybe i should asking moderator for permission to place emote?

umbral whale
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id just run chaos shield at 0 heat with the egg and keep trying chaos and if they dont say it just sit on a spike

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then do it again lol

spare tiger
tall lotus
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i can palceing on others for to like Rin

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YES seeing that one?

high island
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If you can't react to a message with an emote, it's because you've been blocked by that person.

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

hearty sierra
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Nyaa...?

tall lotus
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oh i seeing, i guessing nyana not like lithua peoples sorry

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i be careful

umbral whale
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i just noticed your pic is Aerith Nya

tall lotus
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i thought friends for all but i guess not so much this time, sorry nyan for talking in lithua english! i learn better then we talk maybe?

umbral whale
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i need to beat the remake x.x but so many other games have my attention right now lol

spare tiger
weary jackal
spare tiger
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Either that or Discord's on crack

tall lotus
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it seeem taht way thoughing, she say i speak bad and call me troll so i guess it bad though, i be careful!

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it ok we all here for hadee!

umbral whale
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nya wasnt the one who called you a troll afaik

tall lotus
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nyana just miss for all cool talking with us

high island
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It's definitely nothing to do with race, but that's not a discussion for this chat, anyway.

tall lotus
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it from time ago rin

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i been here while

wise oasis
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I used to be in a server that used reactions for things, always awkward being asked why someone cant react to your post sweats

hearty sierra
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Lmao must be a shock

plucky latch
tall lotus
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it ok nyana mew, it seeming this way for while but you can keeping local feelings there, it time for hadee discussiong!

umbral whale
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im old. yall kids with yer emotes and emojis are just too much fer me

weary jackal
spare tiger
plucky latch
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Are you afraid?

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😏

weary jackal
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You concern me

umbral whale
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okay so do i have to give each god one ambrosia to advance the story? or do i gotta MAX max them out?

spare tiger
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Zoomers and Boomers uniting under one thing

tall lotus
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ok, so it hard for this time since nyana is messsaging master for hadee so i have lessing info now, but i asking rin this time.

spare tiger
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The world as we know it is screwed

plucky latch
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Speak your mind. Just sprinkle some Hades in there, Shootbob

tall lotus
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when big sword with dash have lighting? i see that in soemtime this way?

spare tiger
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Then be prepared to wait

umbral whale
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im the youngest a millennial can be

spare tiger
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A lot.

weary jackal
wise oasis
umbral whale
spare tiger
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Im starting to think Demeter unlocks post ending

umbral whale
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damn i was hoping i could turn this ambrosia to blood lol

hearty sierra
wise oasis
umbral whale
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orpheus is gonna put me to sleep x.x

tall lotus
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taht good then, zeus king of gods and dad father too all!

weary jackal
hearty sierra
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Yep and there isn't even a task

plucky latch
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@tall lotusYou said you're from Lithuania right?

tall lotus
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yes! that from where i am!

plucky latch
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Do they play Hades there?

spare tiger
umbral whale
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i dont have the music player unlocked

weary jackal
tall lotus
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we not have much for gaming, at leasting for me! i watching streamers lot lately

umbral whale
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but i do have youtube

high island
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One Ambrosia is enough to max your relationship with any Olympian but Lord Hermes, who requires two.

umbral whale
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crap that means i need more ambrosia.

plucky latch
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Gotcha. I'd recommend using the sword, my friend. When you get around to playing

tall lotus
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mayube someone asking nyana question for me, i think using for zeus boon and want ask her for what boon is best?

weary jackal
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Hermes requires 2 out of spite

spare tiger
spare tiger
weary jackal
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Yes

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Why couldn’t Hermes deliver the letters though

umbral whale
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well next time i play ill just offload the rest of my nectar and then maybe get to Hades with Arthur so i can get 2

plucky latch
spare tiger
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I think legit my only use for Nectar now is trading for diamonds

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Pretty sure i capped everybody out

tall lotus
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that good to here this time! since it harder since nyaa no much and help lot

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i guess i asking for to someone else now this time

plucky latch
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Ah, I gotcha.

umbral whale
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its better to not just ask one person alone for advice

tall lotus
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that true!

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many knowledgeble in this place!

umbral whale
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😮 wait i didnt have to buy all that crazy crap from the lounge?

tall lotus
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I missing for when Aggy say some advice too

umbral whale
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eyy now i got 4 diamonds

spare tiger
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You don't HAVE to take the deals...

tall lotus
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they have mad smart

spare tiger
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Though sometimes they're good

tall lotus
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OH I not SEEing this earler! it Nikola on line!

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@cloud arch how is the day for this time, it good lithua time but it hard to talk recent this time

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i think it for hadees i say that shield is strongest

umbral whale
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holy crap Arthurs aspect is so bright

weary jackal
spare tiger
#

Oh i thought thought of something

burnt breach
spare tiger
tall lotus
#

what you thinking about dash with twice? @spare tiger what boon for that?

umbral whale
spare tiger
#

I'm not personally a fan of more dashes though

hearty sierra
#

Holy crap

burnt breach
tall lotus
#

that crazy for this time! so good then for hermes with that

hearty sierra
#

Okay, I had no idea this was in the works

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Honestly impressive

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How did you get an extra status effect?

spare tiger
#

Ok rin as i was saying

umbral whale
spare tiger
#

If you want an easy 2 ambro

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Visit the locker and equip every keepsake 1 by 1

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Then go to the fated list

umbral whale
#

oh right. i forgot about that one

burnt breach
spare tiger
#

Gotta leave the locker after each equip

hearty sierra
#

Yeah ping me in the other server

burnt breach
umbral whale
#

wait dont i have to do a run with it?

high island
#

You can just trade up Chthonic Keys and Nectar for Ambrosia.

spare tiger
#

Literally just equipping them satisfies the fated

umbral whale
#

nya i still need the nectar to max out the gods FOR the ambrosia lol

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actually lemme see if i even have enough nectar

high island
#

Well, do more runs. dusa

spare tiger
#

If you want a way to get each god during a run

#

Pick up their keepsake in between regions

#

Worst comes to worst, you get some special dialogue from Hermes

umbral whale
#

wow omg

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well thats 4 ambrosia at least

spare tiger
#

Who'd have thought the three beings responsible for the course of the whole world were so damn easy to please?

umbral whale
#

okay so i need 2 more nectar than i have

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1 more nectar. i had 5 keys lol

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alright now im going to bed

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sun rises so i must fall

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if i werent so bloodthirsty id have all the resources id need but i didnt know the conclusion to the story required it i thought i wouldnt need ambrosia til the end endgame xD

high island
#

You'll need to do their "favors" before you can gift them Ambrosia anyway.

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Epilogue is supposed to take awhile.

limber mist
#

Is there anything specific I need to do to get the hidden aspect on fists. I’ve done almost everything in this game but have yet to get these. I’ve even gotten the dialogue from him about my fists being bare while wearing them. Have since ran into him (by himself) a lot of times now.😔

high island
limber mist
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Ok, I’ll take a look. Appreciate it.

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Ah, yup. Did all that 😞

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The rng aspect of this game can be incredibly annoying/tedious especially when it’s concerning story.

high island
#

I mean you're getting plenty of story progress, it's just not in the specific order you want.

limber mist
#

I’m actually pretty stalled out

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Everyone is at their max

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Just no one wants an ambrosia

#

So I’m literally waiting for the game to “allow” me to complete the story

jade zenith
#

the rng regarding story progress is less frustrating when you don't actually know what is reuqired

high island
#

Gotta play game to do favors and stuff to unlock hearts.

limber mist
#

Well yea. Buuuut did all tht lol

high island
#

If you did all of that, the hearts shouldn't be all locked. courte5Wut

limber mist
limber mist
#

Like I said, I’m replaying over n over just to get someone to progress

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Hence my frustration/boredom

high island
#

If you did all of the favors, the odds of all of them still being locked after a run are probably pretty close to zero.

limber mist
#

Not entirely sure how to be more clear, maybe I’m not explain myself properly. I have gotten every character to the bond stage or up till the heart keylock (ambrosia/favor stage. HOWEVER I have yet to get the requir3d dialogues needed for said favors. Which is why I. Just going in circles

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So YES, I do in fact have everything as far as it can go u til the game decides (rng) and allows me to continue.

boreal gale
#

How do I equip a companion/summon?

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And what companions are best for me to try get?

limber mist
#

It’s on the left as soon as you walk in

high island
#

I understand completely. m telling you the odds of not making progress are pretty damn low. If something's taking unnaturally long, you could report a bug with F10 or ask for help in #h1-tech-support. There have been bugs preventing the unlocking of hearts before. Though they've all been fixed so far.

boreal gale
#

Oh the keepsake cabinet?

high island
#

The dialogue trees can also be quite complex and full requirements to get a certain dialogue might not be listed on the wiki or wherever. So long as you keep talking to everyone with a ! and gift Nectar and Ambrosia when you can, you should be making progress.

high island
boreal gale
#

Cool. Who has one? I know Meg does, who else?

high island
#

Dusa, Skelly, Achilles & Patroclus, and Sisyphus.

boreal gale
#

Doesn't Than have a Companion?

high island
#

Yeah.

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I knew I forgot one.

boreal gale
#

Can some please explain why Than is being so antisocial

#

He hasnt been at the house in 10 runs and any time I see him whilst trying to escaping he leaves before I can talk

high island
#

That's just how he is.

limber fossil
#

When can you gift him?

#

I’m also trying to get his companion and I can never seem to talk to or gift him

boreal gale
#

I'm trying to unlock his hearts but he just never appears it's so irritating

high island
#

Lots of work on the surface.

limber fossil
#

He should just sneak zag to the surface every now and then

#

Ez

boreal gale
#

I will max out Than and Meg

#

I will

limber fossil
#

I’m one gift of ambrosia away from maxing Meg

boreal gale
#

I'm going to try max out an Aspect on every weapon

#

Aside from Stygius and Malphon, which aspect is the best for the other weapons?

high island
#

Varatha: Achilles
Aegis: Beowulf
Coronacht: Hera for speed, Rama for heat, Chiron for ease of play
Exagryph: Eris or Hestia

boreal gale
#

So really you can do any on Coronacht

#

Thanks. The only hidden I need to get right now is Beo then

weary jackal
#

Same 😭

boreal gale
#

I'm gonna go for Beo now then. Let's see if I get it before you

limber fossil
boreal gale
#

Malphon is Dem. Stygius is probably Arthur but I'm using Nemesis because I hate Arthur.

hearty sierra
#

Credit to PonyWarrior, the genie of Hades

boreal gale
#

Dem Splitting Headache could be an amazing build actually

#

If I were to get ME, could I then remove Athena Special and keep ME?

untold oak
#

One message removed from a suspended account.

boreal gale
#

Because in that case a very strong build could be Ares Attack, Artemis Special, Athena Dash, Dio call to get ME and SH.

boreal gale
untold oak
#

One message removed from a suspended account.

boreal gale
#

It's a stupidly strong duo boon you get when you have Ares and Athena boons

untold oak
#

One message removed from a suspended account.

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One message removed from a suspended account.

boreal gale
#

Same with Splitting Headache

untold oak
#

One message removed from a suspended account.

boreal gale
#

Splitting Headache increases crit chance and damage on enemies with hangover, Merciful End immidieately activates any Doom damage when hit with an Athena attack, with extra damage. So dash strikes deal megatonnes of damage.

rapid forum
#

If you have other deflect boons

boreal gale
#

Oh things are going to get fun

rapid forum
#

It'd activate regardless

boreal gale
#

SH ME is going to be amazing

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Especially on Dem

limber fossil
#

But you can’t get merciful end on dash right?

#

Athena dash*

brisk trail
#

no, you need either attack or special

boreal gale
#

That's what I was thinking. Would I keep the Duo if I didn't have the presiquites?

spare tiger
#

But it'll do nothing

#

If you don't regain the requirements it's either dead weight or 400 coins

boreal gale
#

I'm gonna get Athena Dash to fix that problem

high island
#

You can proc Merciful End with Divine Dash.

boreal gale
#

So my ME SH build can work.

#

My next run is going to be fun

high island
#

Practicality is another matter, but yeah.

#

That's four specific gods and two specific Duo Boons.

boreal gale
#

Four keepsakes

#

I can beat Hades without a defensive keepsake

#

What I'll do is get ME first then try go for SH or vice versa

high island
#

Odds of getting all of that aren't that great. Fated Authority would help.

boreal gale
#

Yeah. I'll just stick with ME and try to add the SH on top

#

But I mean if I did get that I'd be dealing so much damage

high island
#

You'd have better crit chance just getting Merciful End + Deadly Reversal.

#

And better DPS.

hearty sierra
#

You guys know what I really appreciate in this game? Piercing fire kills greatshields really handily

high island
#

Greatshields always spawn facing East, by the way.

#

So you can easily hit them in the back when they spawn.

boreal gale
#

Why do you know that

weary jackal
#

Yeah lemme just use a compass in the underworld

high island
#

The right side of your screen.

weary jackal
#

Doesn’t the sun rise infront of you when you come onto the surface

high island
#

Listen.

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🔫 dusa

boreal gale
#

Nono, she's got a point

#

Wait but doesn't it set to your right?

#

The sun now rises in the North and sets in the east.

high island
#

Maybe Helios just ain't too bright in those days.

#

That's so punny.

#

m a genius.

weary jackal
#

When you come from Hades’s boss room and the sun rises, it comes from the horizon infront of you, meaning the right of your screen is probably south

boreal gale
#

They should still let you see the surface

high island
#

What if it rotates when you exit the boss "chamber".

boreal gale
#

But we established that the right is East

high island
#

What if Helios got lost.

boreal gale
#

Because it rises in front of you and sets to your left

#

So Helios needs to fix himself

weary jackal
#

It doesn’t set though
The sun is in the sky when you’re with Persephone

boreal gale
#

Remember the sunset scene

#

We have seen it set

weary jackal
#

When

boreal gale
#

In the sunset scene

weary jackal
#

You hurt my brain

boreal gale
#

You brain my hurt

high island
#

What if Helios rises in the North on days when Zagreus reaches the surface because he knows it's the only direction in which Zag can see the sky.

limber fossil
weary jackal
#

Why

limber fossil
#

He’s a cool guy

#

He wants Zag to have a nice view

high island
#

He's family.

weary jackal
#

So was Kronos

#

And we all know how that went

high island
#

Now's not the time for that.

boreal gale
#

So we're the Titans

#

What happened there

#

As we have figured out, Helios is lost. And the sun does whatever the hell it wants

weary jackal
#

I find it funny how all the Titans have titan-y names
And then there’s just
Phoebe

boreal gale
#

Ugh I have to get my hair cut so I can't get Beo

#

Sad

#

I want Lernie as a pet

#

I've decided. I shall kidnap the bone Hydra

weary jackal
#

How

boreal gale
#

Zag will figure out a way

weary jackal
#

Lazy

boreal gale
#

If he can beat up his dad he can move a Hydra

#

Hopefully

weary jackal
#

Hades definitely goes easy on you

toxic imp
#

not on the second phase he doesn't

weary jackal
#

Second phase is easier

rapid forum
#

at the very least there are no minions

#

at least that's what I thought

#

until skull went flying

#

and BAM

#

60 damage

boreal gale
#

And then he summoned sum minions

#

I think mother would be a better opponent

#

Which of Lernies heads is easiest to beat for everyone?

#

For me slam is really easy

weary jackal
#

Lava

boreal gale
#

What weapon do you use?

#

I forget.

weary jackal
#

Malphon, Coronacht, Aegis

boreal gale
#

Good.

#

Malphon.

#

Good.

weary jackal
#

Punch

boreal gale
#

I shouldn't buy Gilgamesh

#

So I have 3 Titans blood

weary jackal
#

Demeter’s look the best

boreal gale
#

To put into Shield

#

For Beo do I need to have Aegis equipped?

#

I can borrow from Charon

#

Wow Charon is hard

vapid narwhal
#

you need to have the shield equipped and talk to chaos once, have them comment on it

#

for the actual awakening phase it does not

vapid narwhal
boreal gale
#

EM Meg fight whoo

#

Light of Ixon to force Chaos

#

And they mentioned Zeus.

weary jackal
boreal gale
#

I just had to play without attack on Zeus Aegis for 3 encounters

#

I wanna fight Charon again

#

Two Lights of Ixon in one run.

#

Chaos give me my shield.

#

They didn't even speak to me that time.

boreal gale
#

Can you fight Charon in Styx

wise oasis
#

no

boreal gale
#

Dead dad with uncles shield

#

EM3 DC1 should be manageable, right?

#

Time to fight a car and a Beyblade again.

astral mural
#

why did hades comment about me unlocking pact of punishment 34 runs after i did, is it supposed to work like that? some other conversations also feel like they are weirdly late

brisk trail
#

can hangover crit

rapid forum
#

yes

narrow hemlock
# astral mural why did hades comment about me unlocking pact of punishment 34 runs after i did,...

this is a symptom of how the dialogue system works. the game only checks that you've met x requirement for dialogue, and then that dialogue is entered into a pool of possible text that can come up when you speak with an npc. so in this case, hades remarking on the pact requires you unlock it, so once you meet that condition, that dialogue can come up at any time, it just does not necessarily come up immediately after unlocking it. this is why some dialogue seems to appear much later than you expect

brisk trail
#

I adore the amount of love put into this game

azure osprey
#

I have a Question

#

Actually

#

2 questions

#

So how does the shield hidden aspect work

#

If my casts are stronger

#

Does that make dragon rush stronger

#

Or is it my attack damage?

#

And do I seriously have to get the third area every time and fight the Minotaur to unlock the hidden aspect for the guantlet

mint coral
#

Is like melee hera, but casts dont get lodged

azure osprey
#

The casts in the rush

#

How do I increase their damage

mint coral
#

Pom the cast

azure osprey
#

They deal like 50 I think

mint coral
#

Or pick a different one from the gods

azure osprey
#

So boons that increase the casts damage

#

Increase the dragon rush damage

#

Okay

mint coral
#

Dragon rush doesnt get affected by what cast

neat stag
#

Is Zeus aspect for shield considered decent when just unlocking it, or does it need to be maxed out?

mint coral
#

As long you load one the next rush will be stronger

azure osprey
#

Okay let me ask again

#

The cast

#

Deals 50 damage right

#

In dragon rush

mint coral
#

Rush damage gets affected by what boon you pick on attack

azure osprey
#

That’s what I wanted to know

#

Thanks

carmine talon
#

What gods cast should I use if I wanna get a cast run going

burnt breach
#

poseidon, aphrodite

mint coral
#

Demeter/ares/dio with achilles is also fun

forest falcon
#

I had a really good run with poseidon aspect and artemis cast

#

With exit wounds

#

And 5 casts

carmine talon
#

is 5 casts a hermes thing?

burnt breach
#

chaos boons

forest falcon
#

Artemis legendary boon i think

#

And from chaos too

maiden bane
#

I just had the most scuffed run

carmine talon
#

yeah i just spent the titans blood i got from the infernal arms prophecy on getting poseidon aspect to lvl 3

#

alright thanks

maiden bane
#

Chiron bow with 5 dashes gave me carpal tunnel

mint coral
#

Artemis legendary, chaos, and charon well items give casts

#

Arte legendary being a myth stickerGloomy

forest falcon
#

Yeah legendaries are very rare

#

I have 50 something runs and only got legendary boons like 4 times?

#

Maybe 5

maiden bane
#

One of the only ones I’ve seen was the 0 second blood stone return time

#

Sad

mint coral
#

Most legendaries only needs 1 boon for a chance to get it

forest falcon
#

Not counting the fishing one

maiden bane
#

How does fishing work

#

I can never get the timing right

mint coral
#

Artemis legendary needs 2, and if using a non lodging cast you barely can get the 2 requisites

forest falcon
#

When you see a flash it means you can catch the fish

carmine talon
#

god damnit i need more god keepsakes

maiden bane
#

Oh i thought it was when it vibrated

carmine talon
#

i keep forgetting to just give em the nectar

forest falcon
#

If you press the catch button very fast you can get perfect catch

#

Idk what bonuses it gives tho

#

Propably just more rewards when turning it in

#

Maybe an achievement

mint coral
#

Perfect catch is chance for legendary or guaranteed rare, normal catch is rare fish or normal

burnt breach
forest falcon
#

Is there a list of fish sorted into rarities

#

I'm curious

burnt breach
forest falcon
#

Ty

#

Huh i caught the stonewhal once

#

cool

#

Didn't know it was so rare

lone kernel
#

@umbral whale how'd it go with eris?

carmine talon
#

hmmm hide breaker or hunters mark

#

or should i use my one reroll to look for exit wounds

raw herald
#

What weapon/aspect

#

And what is your source of crit on?

carmine talon
#

Im doing a poseidon aspect artemis cast run

raw herald
#

What's the third option?

carmine talon
#

nevermind i already picked one haha

#

oh well

raw herald
#

I would have maybe taken pressure points, but rolling for exit wounds may have been best. It's pretty decent on poseidon sword, but meh on everything else

carmine talon
#

i think it was artemis attack

#

I used my roll on chaos instead and got a +1 cast so it worked out in the end :D

lone kernel
#

Yep that works

stiff parcel
#

Question

#

So you guys told me you could have a relationship with three of the characters just one I assume or something but like do I just not fill up the Cupid hearts on one and go for the other like?

mint coral
#

you can have a relationship with all 3

stiff parcel
#

What

#

For real

#

?

#

Huh

mint coral
#

yup

rapid forum
#

They'd ask you,"one can, toucan, three can?"

stiff parcel
#

Huh?

#

Like a tease ?

#

Or something at you having all three?

high island
azure osprey
#

Ares legendary needs 2 specific boons

carmine talon
#

i lost my cast run when hades had literally a sliver of health left, i need to punch something

azure osprey
#

For you to even to get the chance

chrome wharf
#

so does Artemis and demeter

carmine talon
#

what's a brother gotta do to get some exit wounds man

chrome wharf
#

check the codex

high island
#

Exit Wounds doesn't do too much anyway.

carmine talon
#

it doesn't do much but he had a sliver of health left so if i had exit wounds it would've done enough to make it a successful run

#

Pain

high island
carmine talon
#

oh nice, thanks

#

im so frustrated omg if i wasnt so impatient it would've been a successful ruuuun

azure osprey
#

Cast runs aren’t very consistent

#

But if that’s what you wanna do

stiff parcel
#

Tbh idk how I win I just play and have 23 success out of 51

carmine talon
#

especially artemis cast where im just praying for crits lmao

stiff parcel
#

It’s my first time playing. It I play like 10 other rouge likes though so prolly that

azure osprey
#

I beat hades on my 7th run

carmine talon
#

i dont play any other roguelikes, i generally don't like roguelikes

stiff parcel
#

I like rouge likes a lot like beating them within my first day

azure osprey
#

Rougelikes have infinite value

carmine talon
#

the only other roguelike im considering trying really is noita after i feel like ive had enough hades

stiff parcel
#

Well I beat the game in like 3 days or something

#

(The story not the boss)

carmine talon
#

it took me 15 runs to beat up hades

#

i think i only have to beat him a couple more times to finish the story

carmine talon
#

yeah im on 8

azure osprey
#

To finish the story

stiff parcel
#

I know

azure osprey
#

Oh okay

stiff parcel
#

Gods max my friend wouldn’t shut up about it mimicking me and stuff prolly mad cause he’s on attempt 160 and only one once

#

Idk how

#

He gets such good runs and still loses I don’t understand how

carmine talon
#

attempt 160 omg

#

some people are just not gamers, it took my friend 3 hours to beat meg lol

stiff parcel
#

It took me a short time too it’s a good first boss tbh it teaches you about the ropes of the first area

brisk trail
#

different people learn at different speeds
they probably tilting or they don't get to the choke often enough to learn from it

carmine talon
#

yeah especially if they don't play roguelikes

stiff parcel
#

I’m

#

Um

carmine talon
#

The isometric perspective kinda throws people off too if they're only used to playing first person or top down games

stiff parcel
#

He’s played rougelikes with me like he’s play 10-15 as well as me

#

Idk how he does it

brisk trail
#

also i just know some people that don't like analyze their gameplay at all they'll just make the same until a guide tells them what to do and suddenly no problem

rotund lava
#

Just unlocked the gun weapon and it’s so bad lol, why’s it the last unlock

stiff parcel
#

Gun is not bad tbh

brisk trail
#

cus it's good actually

stiff parcel
#

I have around 7 heat or 6 on my gun

rotund lava
#

Yea it’s not bad, it’s horrible

brisk trail
#

12heat with the gun dabultra

stiff parcel
#

But it takes me a while to get heat on weapons cause I grind the loot at lower difficulty

#

I bump up when I’m done with hades with that level of heat

stiff parcel
brisk trail
#

i just as a law always take max heat darkness weapon

stiff parcel
#

I use to do that then I was bored with grinding and played sword alot

rotund lava
brisk trail
#

gun's got it's own moments
reason you get it so late is cus the gun is relatively sensitive to your builds

stiff parcel
#

Oops

#

Boons I meant idk why autocorrect did me dirty

stiff parcel
#

Like Dionysus attack is amazing on the gun bosses get shredded by tick damage

rotund lava
#

Btw I’m playing on ps5, is the game also on ps4?

stiff parcel
#

Yes I play on ps4

rotund lava
#

It run good?

brisk trail
#

ps5 was like a later port i think

rotund lava
#

Looks really good at 4K

stiff parcel
#

Yeah ps4 it doesn’t run terrible

#

It’s works a ok

rotund lava
#

Wait this evergreen acorn keepsake I got is actually cracked

stiff parcel
#

I haven’t used that one

#

I have been using max Thanatos

rotund lava
#

No hits on bosses for 3 hits

sick ibex
#

If my Garbo laptop can run Hades with no issues a PS4 is probably 3x more powerful than nessesary to run it lol

brisk trail
#

sg doesn't really get lazy with their ports yeah jolly

rotund lava
#

It was like 15 FPS

stiff parcel
#

That emote is funny haha

brisk trail
#

what's wrong with your ps4 ?
i get 30 on switch and that's basically an oversized phone

sick ibex
#

Thata what I'm saying. I get a solid 30fps no dips on a laptop that barely runs my pixel art games lmao. Ps4 can run gran Turismo sport tier games. I can't imagine how a PS4 isn't leaps and bounds overpowered for hades

gentle cloak
#

The first bass note in "The Painful Way" hits so damn good

rotund lava
#

Do you guys use chaos when you get the RNG portals? Doesn’t seem worth it most of the time

gentle cloak
#

Chaos is worth it unless you're about to hit a boss

brisk trail
#

anyways chaos, tis law

gentle cloak
#

And depending on the build, even then sometimes

brisk trail
#

always*

gentle cloak
#

Like, if I'm doing a cast build I'm always taking chaos

rotund lava
neat stag
#

Are Zeus shield and Talos fists decent when unlocked, or do they need to be maxed out to be effective?

raw herald
#

3:03 Tartarus on 52 heat 👀

rotund lava
#

Dionysus has such good voice lines

gentle cloak
brisk trail
#

Just that switch often struggles to run things, but not hades in my experience

stiff parcel
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Oh no I’m fine my game only crashes soemtimes cause it was released what a week ago on console?

brisk trail
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OH Oh you misunderstood something i was referring to AnimeLIst saying they get 15 frames and i'm just lost at how that happened

stiff parcel
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Oh idk

brisk trail
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shame about supergiant moving on from the game tho 😭
I know their like approach probably lends to a healthy work environment but sure wish it got like a dlc

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would gladly put another 200 hours in the game, but it's just the heat climb left

brisk trail
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I kind of got a tumultuous relationship with mods embarassed
But i was more referring to story, the mechanical depth i have no complaints about

rotund lava
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But I’m playing on ps5 now so it’s fine

forest falcon
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Do i have to have the rail equipped while talking to zeus for him to say the awakening quote

forest falcon
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Damnit

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I hate the weapon

carmine talon
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What hammers are even good when im doing a poseidon sword artemis cast build

forest falcon
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The double special hit is nice

chrome wharf
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if you don't like regular rail, upgrade Hestia a little and try that, think of it as a single-shot cannon

merry bane
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finally completed the perilous foes journal section

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or, unlocked all enemy types

ocean oyster
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After passing Cerberus, do I fight Hades right away?

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Or maybe right before passing him

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I was thinking of getting Strong Drink but it may be useless if I don’t get another fountain

mint coral
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straight into dad

ocean oyster
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Damn

ocean oyster
rotund lava
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Beat the game on my 15th attempt

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How many tries did it take you guys the first time?

mint coral
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45 attempts iirc

mint coral
strong ridge
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could be post sack charon boon

rotund lava
mint coral
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why would i be lol

rotund lava
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Well it would have probably taken me more if I didn’t play the pc version like 3 months ago

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That shield throw move + doom is op

wise oasis
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Took me 23

rotund lava
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I only had one death defiant too

merry bane
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if i give up, will it end my streak?

rotund lava
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Yes

merry bane
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ok

mint coral
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it doesnt

rotund lava
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What does he mean by streak

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Like progress?

wise oasis
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It'll just send you back to the courtyard

merry bane
wise oasis
rotund lava
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Btw hades was the easiest boss in the game

merry bane
merry bane
rotund lava
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That duo boss was insane tho

rotund lava
merry bane
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second try i beat hades

rotund lava
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Beat him on my first

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I was not trying to get sent back

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Facts

merry bane
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Asterius is cool in my books

mint coral
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so it could be the 2nd tunnel or the last

ocean oyster
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If it’s in the first tunnel

south lagoon
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it never is

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it will only appear in the 2nd tunnel onward

ocean oyster
wise oasis
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You'll know when you got it, it'll be a chamber with a fountain, sack, reward and no enemies

merry bane
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dont trust the elite sign either, there's a chance you'll get the sack from that room

south lagoon
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yeah the rng is not whether or not it appears; it always appears (if you don't die before you get to it). it will appear anywhere from the 2nd to the 5th tunnel you try

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you will be required to interact with it in order to continue the game, like Tsura said you'll know it when you see it

ocean oyster
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Although I pretty much lost all that hp later on

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Through the other tunnels

south lagoon
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once you get it, trying other tunnels will not get you a fountain, and is generally not the best if you are just worried about surviving because the fountain is the strongest source of healing you get in Styx

mint coral
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and practically the only one tbh

south lagoon
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so if surviving is the goal you might want to avoid chipping away at health by trying other tunnels after you get the fountain

ocean oyster
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Hades is so hard to dodge compared to the other bosses

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Like the other bosses I dodged their attacks pretty well

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Hades is a different story

south lagoon
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he goes big

ocean oyster
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Yessir

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That was the farthest I’ve gone, and now I gotta restart the whole run again 💀

rotund lava
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Hey

south lagoon
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good luck!

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hi

rotund lava
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Would you say someone has “beat the game” if they completed one run ?

south lagoon
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10 runs is the major story

rotund lava
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I kinda do since your only really missing dialogue in the other runs

wise oasis
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I don't, you got a clear but a real win is 10 clears

south lagoon
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"beating the game" for me includes completing the main story

rotund lava
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Do any of the other runs have different bosses or anything crazy different besides the story?

south lagoon
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you can fight Charon afterwards as an optional boss once you beat Hades once

rotund lava
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I know the first boss changes btw

wise oasis
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You can change the difficulty with whatever you want including boss and miniboss changes