#h1-discussion

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mint coral
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ye

brisk trail
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Oh good

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The Fists of Malphon are amazing jesus

quiet oriole
lapis snow
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How do you get the secret sheild aspect?

mint coral
brisk trail
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Is it too late to change what weapon I want to use mainly if I've put 3 Titans blood into a different weapon?

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Because I prefer the Fists of Malphon to Coronacht

wise oasis
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If you haven't started a run/changed rooms since then you can quit to menu and change what weapon you put it in

mint coral
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you wont run out of blood, if that is what you are worrying

brisk trail
wise oasis
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Youll be fine

brisk trail
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The Fists melt boss health

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And I got an Artemis boon which makes a seeking arrow every time I land an attack or special so I murder everything so quick it's insane

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I've got Dio Artemis and Dio Athena Duo boons. This run is going super well

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THIRD TIME IN STYX LET'S GOOO

mint coral
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kill those rats

brisk trail
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Styx is surprisingly easy ngl

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Room 3

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Boom Sack

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2DD hades fight

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FIRST BAR DONE

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Final form 1DD

mint coral
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you got this

brisk trail
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I DID IT

mint coral
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congrats! Fubuki_Cheer

brisk trail
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Let's gooooooooooooooooooo

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27 minutes to beat the game

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Is that good or bad

mint coral
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decent, is your first win anyways dont start comparing with others

brisk trail
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Yeah. The Fists are definitely my favourite weapon

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I melted his first health bar

mint coral
brisk trail
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Yes

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This is some of the most fun I've had in a game in a while

lone kernel
brisk trail
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Let's goo

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I didn't even have a cast boon lmao

lone kernel
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Enjoy the dub my man

hearty sierra
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I think I was closer to 40 for my first clear lmao

brisk trail
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My god

lone kernel
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Same lol

brisk trail
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I mean I've another save on Hell with 20

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But I don't count that because I never even beat the first boss

lone kernel
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My fastest is 12:26 but that’s after 164 wins

brisk trail
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How

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I couldn't even walk to Styx that fast

hearty sierra
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A lot of practice and some busted weapons

lone kernel
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Eris rail and 285 hours game time lol

hearty sierra
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The world record is under 6 mins in-game time, i think

mint coral
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my first run was 26:10
thought it was slower

lone kernel
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5:57 with beowulf iirc

brisk trail
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Wait how the hell?

hearty sierra
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Practice is a hell of a drug

mint coral
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free rooms, got what beo needs early, and practice

hearty sierra
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Also lil tips to improve your time like dashing right and pausing when making decisions

lone kernel
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but @brisk trail from someone who isn’t much of a gamer prior to last year - it’s totally doable if it’s something you want!

mint coral
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hades "your way to hold the (shield name) reminds me of zeus"
me using chaos aspect; what

lone kernel
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(Sub 15, I’m only human)

brisk trail
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Yeah I don't have the patience to do that

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I just more want to play for fun

hearty sierra
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Sub-15 is totally doable

brisk trail
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THIS ENDING

lone kernel
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That’s the beauty of this game - eventually you’ll reliably beat it, and want more anywya, so you start cranking up the heat and speedrunning etc lol

brisk trail
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WHAT IS THIS

mint coral
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depending on your weapon you might even do sub 15 by chance

brisk trail
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NAH WHAT WAS THAT

hearty sierra
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I mean, what did you think this game is about

brisk trail
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ALL THAT TIME AND I'M BACK HERE UGH

lone kernel
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There is no escape

brisk trail
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Time to go beat up dad again ig

hearty sierra
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It's like an allegory for insanity

lone kernel
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Bum bum dum dummmmmmm

brisk trail
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Yeah it makes sense but I hate that

hearty sierra
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Now do it again, and again, and again, and again for 10 more times

brisk trail
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Lmao Hades acting like a child

hearty sierra
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Then you'll roll credits

lone kernel
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Then you’ll have epilogue lol

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Then you might go the way I went and keep playing just because

mint coral
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"what if we think a small but dangerous insect, landed on zagreus, the assasin of the hydra, putting and end to its journey"
i love the post credit deaths SuiWHEEZE

brisk trail
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I'm never going to stop playing this tame

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Game*

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It's amazing

hearty sierra
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Good

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Join the crew

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200 hours reporting in

brisk trail
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I beat the game once, I'll beat it a hundred times, then I'll do it again on hell mode.

mint coral
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time to make it harder dusa

hearty sierra
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Lmao ooh do HL5 LC4 on your first run after doing hades

brisk trail
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Story Spoilers ||How come Zag and Hades can't leave, but Persephone can? Don't know a lot about Greek mythology and all that so...||

hearty sierra
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do RI4 as well

mint coral
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they dont have full mirror, cant use RI

brisk trail
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Oh makes sense

hearty sierra
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Zag/Hades were always Cthonic gods

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So they can't leave their domain for long

brisk trail
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So the same would happen to Nyx, Hypnos, Thanatos ect?

hearty sierra
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Than, no

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And no idea on the rest

wanton quail
stoic flame
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but is hades really a cthonic god

brisk trail
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Isn't Thanatos the God of Death tho?

stoic flame
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I feel like he should be an Olympian

wanton quail
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|| he was originally an Olympian ||

stoic flame
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ah

hearty sierra
wanton quail
brisk trail
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Is Orpheus' Muse the ! In Asphodel?

mint coral
hearty sierra
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The personification of death, anyway

wanton quail
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Essentially only zag and hades can't leave

hearty sierra
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Semantics are cruel

brisk trail
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I'm so smarttt

wanton quail
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Nyx the mother of darkness gave birth to the twins sleep and death

hearty sierra
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Not twins, no

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Nyx has many children

wanton quail
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They are twin brothers not identical

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She has 3 more kids

lone kernel
wanton quail
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At least of note

lone kernel
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(I know that it’s out for ps5 but no save transfers so nope)

brisk trail
mint coral
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well this run is going fine
beo with passion flare and both artemis and poseidon spawned in tartarus dusa

hearty sierra
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I don't know why I'm shocked

wanton quail
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I am a Greek myth need

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Nerd**

hearty sierra
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Just that the only similarity between them is their deathly complexion?

wanton quail
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They aren't identical twins only fraternal

brisk trail
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How many upgrades to the mirror are there? It's now 30 keys!

hearty sierra
wanton quail
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No

hearty sierra
wanton quail
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Shes a creation God

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She reproduces asexually

brisk trail
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Family Favourites is better than Priveleged Status, correct?

wanton quail
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Yes

wise oasis
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Aren't her children's father erebus

hearty sierra
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Some of them are?

brisk trail
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Dark Foresight or Olympian Favour?

hearty sierra
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Also "asexual reproduction" makes me think of snails

wise oasis
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Chaos reproduces asexually, not nyx

hearty sierra
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makes your runs better

wise oasis
mint coral
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dark foresight unless you need to grind a lot of darkness

brisk trail
hearty sierra
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I mean, at least the greeks wrote something about Nyx

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I have no idea where SGG pulled the idea of Chaos from

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Favourite boon giver, don't get me wrong, but wow do they not fit

mint coral
wise oasis
brisk trail
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What on Earth is the pact of punishment? Should I bother with this rn?

wise oasis
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Likely spelled with a k or something

mint coral
hearty sierra
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just don't mess with it rn

lone kernel
mint coral
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in your case, you escaped with the fists so beating bosses with them again will only give you darkness

wanton quail
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Chaos is a primordial God, not a creation of ssg

brisk trail
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What Aspect for Malphon?

hearty sierra
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I'd go zag

wise oasis
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Sgg only put their spin on Greek mythology, didn't add much

hearty sierra
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Dem is good too

wise oasis
wanton quail
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Malphon imo is easier before you have your mirror maxed

hearty sierra
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Dem's playstyle is "charge your fists until you can nuke enemies with special"

brisk trail
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Dem or Zag?

wanton quail
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Never zag lol

hearty sierra
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Zag is dash-strike dash-strike dash-stike ad infinitum

mint coral
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zag fists can be fun with hermes keepsake if you want dodge chance but demeter will give more damage

hearty sierra
brisk trail
lone kernel
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but Rama

wanton quail
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Zag sword is bad

hearty sierra
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I mean, 5 blood for all the usability in the world

hearty sierra
mint coral
wanton quail
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Doesn't speed up your dash strikes

hearty sierra
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attack speed

lone kernel
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but Rama and Excalibur

mint coral
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we are still gonna max it for that prophecy sadly

lone kernel
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pew pew

hearty sierra
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True

lone kernel
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boomstick

wanton quail
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Daaaash strikes not effected by attack speed

hearty sierra
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SKELLY QUEST

brisk trail
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So essentially I don't need to use the pact until I get my Mirror maxed then I'll start fiddling with Pact of Punishment

hearty sierra
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The only aspect tied to a quest

wanton quail
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The pact is for farming materials

mint coral
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you can bother with the pact if you want, is fun to try

hearty sierra
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The best thing is, if you use the same weapon to beat hades, you'll get loads of darkness

lone kernel
lone kernel
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When I unlocked it I didn’t touch it for three weeks

hearty sierra
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Several hundred a run, I think?

lone kernel
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I think it’s like 500 from bosses alone total?

hearty sierra
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Close to 1k if you dedicate your run to it

brisk trail
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Yeah I'm gonna ignore it until I get my Mirror sorted

polar root
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Pray to chaos

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for more darkness

lone kernel
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And even if you blow the run, you still get a blood for beating Meg

hearty sierra
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Also poseidon

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Also fishing

polar root
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oceans bounty is nice

wanton quail
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If you use the weapon with dark thirst you can get almost a thousand

brisk trail
hearty sierra
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Yes there's a fishing minigame in this game

lone kernel
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The pact is there to give you more hades to play lol

hearty sierra
brisk trail
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Damnit

lone kernel
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But you can beat Meg with all weapons on one heat and get 6 bloods

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Then put that into Eris rail and now you can easily win up to 5 heat lol

brisk trail
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How can I check what weapons I've beat Meg with on no heat? Or do I have to just remember?

lone kernel
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Tight deadline 1 is basically free

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The pact will tell you

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Before run starts

hearty sierra
brisk trail
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I've got all 6 on 0 heat

hearty sierra
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I mean, you can read the entire pact and see which one appeals to you

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It doesn't make the game LOADS harder

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Until you get to like 16 heat, that is

brisk trail
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I'll just go for darkness right now

wise oasis
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Heat doesn't make the game harder until you really start piling it on

lone kernel
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there's no right way to play

hearty sierra
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Go for it! Use the same weapon

lone kernel
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just

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play

wise oasis
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Much harder*

lone kernel
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eventually you'll want the challenge

wise oasis
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But do whatever you like, there's no wrong way to do it

hearty sierra
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Yeah the game really got hard for me past 28 heat

lone kernel
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i mean i did 40 the other day, just because

hearty sierra
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32 is challenging

lone kernel
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no in game rewards for it

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just felt like it

brisk trail
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Yeah I will Eventually I just wanna do my mirror rn

raw herald
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Mirror is very important yeah

lone kernel
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then do it again with the fists and farm that darkness my man

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maybe take poseidon's ocean's bounty

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or chaos eclipse boon if u get it

brisk trail
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Flying Cutter on Demeter Fists is gonna shred

lone kernel
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$$$$$$$$$$$$$

mint coral
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mirage shot beo obtained TowaCool also rare rush delivery

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sadly only a lvl 2 common aphro flare

polar root
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game!!!

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not at all bad

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gogogo

mint coral
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this is em4 lol

hearty sierra
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Lmao at this point just pick up pom blossom and go through all 5 tunnels for the sweet, sweet levels

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'cause why not

mint coral
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i already got my sub 10 with shield so im happy

hearty sierra
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Melt ol' dad with the power of love

mint coral
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dont feel like pushing lower

hearty sierra
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casually flexes sub-10

mint coral
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is barely a sub 10 lol

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like 9:50

wise oasis
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Still sub 10

raw herald
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Still sub 10

hearty sierra
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same

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still sub-10

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sub 10 is one hell of an achievement

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Still haven't hit sub-11 legally

brisk trail
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Are the Olympians stupid or do they just not care that Zagreus isnt actually trying to reach them

wanton quail
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Congrats who ever did that cause that's hard

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@brisk trail they think he's failing

brisk trail
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So they just dumb

hearty sierra
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I mean, yes, but no

wanton quail
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Nyx is stopping them from seeing you

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Shes clouding their view of the entrance to the underworld so they can't tell where you are

mint coral
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nuking the butterfly ball feels so good

hearty sierra
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Which is also why it's always night when you fight hades

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Cool detail

wanton quail
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And it's always snowing because grammy

brisk trail
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Grammy Demeter be a lil angry

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Speaking of Demeter

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Time for a boon yay

wanton quail
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I love how thats a secret in the game but I knew it the whole time

candid obsidian
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I have an amazing seed For speed running atm, had a 1:44 Tartarus and a 3:02 asphodel

raw herald
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Sick

brisk trail
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I hate Asphodel with every fibre of my body

mint coral
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start praying for the 2 sack dusa

raw herald
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My fastest Asphodel is 3:13

brisk trail
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Despise it

wanton quail
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Id rather do asphodel twice than elysium

candid obsidian
mint coral
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i hate asphodel just bc is so big

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having enemies on the other side of the map ron

candid obsidian
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Elysium takes forever

hearty sierra
brisk trail
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EXACTLY

wanton quail
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Hes only fire resistant he says that

hearty sierra
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He has a quip about being flame-resistant and not fireproof

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Still

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bs, I swear

wanton quail
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Flaming feet don't stop magma lol

candid obsidian
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Damn I didn’t get clockets only triple rockets

brisk trail
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elysium can be very annoying, but so can asphodel. when one of those skeletons just keeps jumping around and you can't catch it shadedisgruntled

mint coral
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makes sense considering lava doesnt damage you for some moments

wanton quail
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If you hate lava just run Arthur

hearty sierra
raw herald
hearty sierra
wanton quail
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Arthur stops traps from hurting you

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Even lava

polar root
wanton quail
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Doesn't matter if you have HS on Arthur special blocks them

brisk trail
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athena boon, trap damage reduced by 90% squirtlecool

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Dem cast is amazing

mint coral
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HS more like "why would you take this at low heat"

polar root
brisk trail
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Duo boon with who

wanton quail
polar root
brisk trail
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don't you bouldy me

polar root
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XD

brisk trail
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I'm going for a Dio boon now

hearty sierra
brisk trail
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Dio Artemis is broken good

polar root
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sure footing best boon

brisk trail
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it's great for hades' vases

wanton quail
hearty sierra
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yep

wanton quail
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So 90 doesn't really counter it

polar root
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math

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is hard

hearty sierra
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I mean, it reduces it so that it's negligible

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Also doesn't arthur only apply for within its radius

brisk trail
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depends on whether it's multiplicative or additive

wanton quail
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Right but if I take hs I'm trying not to hit traps not take a boon to allow me to eat them

raw herald
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It's multiplicative

candid obsidian
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Damn no clockets

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Did get triple rockets tho

raw herald
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So 90% SF with HS is better than no sure footing and no heightened security

hearty sierra
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nobody mention WEAK and HL5

brisk trail
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Poor Than just doesn't wanna lose his friend

wanton quail
hearty sierra
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Lmao Jolted FO2 is just taking advantage

wanton quail
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XD its so mean

brisk trail
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Oh Meg about to get MELTED

hearty sierra
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Something like Chill FO2 is more like my analogy

raw herald
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Jolted FO2 makes sense

hearty sierra
raw herald
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Enemies attack more often, jolted procs more often

polar root
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the blue dudes in asphodel, jolted melts

wanton quail
brisk trail
wanton quail
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Don't be mean to meg she's just doing her job

mint coral
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didnt get artemis legendary but my cast from charon well lasted to dad fight, time to nuke him

wise oasis
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Gl!

brisk trail
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Meg dead

hearty sierra
polar root
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mercy and all that

brisk trail
hearty sierra
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Then collect casts

hearty sierra
brisk trail
mint coral
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lmao he summoned butterfly ball only to get nuked out of existence

hearty sierra
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Weren't kidding when you said melted

brisk trail
polar root
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apparently so

hearty sierra
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lmao

brisk trail
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I killed the Hydra in about a minute too

polar root
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try killing your dad in a minute

hearty sierra
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Wait till this guy gets beo, man

polar root
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ggez

brisk trail
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Bro?

hearty sierra
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They'll be a speedrunner in no time

brisk trail
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Beo?

polar root
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my obsession

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imo best weapon in game

hearty sierra
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It's a shield aspect

mint coral
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super dad dead

wise oasis
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Pog

polar root
brisk trail
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How do I get the hidden aspects?

hearty sierra
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Also the most discussed aspect in this server as far as I can see

polar root
hearty sierra
mint coral
hearty sierra
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I swear we get this question 10 times a day lmao

raw herald
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It was flood

hearty sierra
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Thank goodness a mod pinned it

raw herald
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Oh sheet

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Nvm

polar root
wise oasis
brisk trail
hearty sierra
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Strange that Hades hasn't been solved yet after a year

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But hey tetris got a new input technique like a month ago and that's a game that's probably older than me a few times over

brisk trail
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Going for Dio Artemis Duo Boon now fun

wanton quail
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I mean it's been changed hasn't it ?

raw herald
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Not really

hearty sierra
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Not really changed since the last major patch which was the Eris nerf

raw herald
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Yeah and that didn't really do much

wise oasis
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It's just big

raw herald
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It was more the nerf of the sigil

hearty sierra
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Eris still busted

raw herald
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And buff of Achilles spear

hearty sierra
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Oh yeah sigil nerf

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Speaking of which

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Where's the banana spear enthusiast

brisk trail
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I just took the wrong Chaos boon on accident now its time for torturw

mint coral
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attack damages you ig?

hearty sierra
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All chaos boons are created equal dw

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Just cast for a bit

brisk trail
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No more enemies

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77% more

hearty sierra
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Not too bad

mint coral
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ah not that bad

hearty sierra
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Just survive

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And run a lot

mint coral
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at least you dont pick "cant pick your casts" with a cast weapon

hearty sierra
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Lmao

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guilty as charged

mint spear
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“More enemies” is only atrocious if you’re speedrunning

hearty sierra
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Had to only play with special for a bit with poseidon sword

brisk trail
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It's for 4 encounters but I'll survive

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Unless I get witches circle

raw herald
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Do you have companions unlocked

brisk trail
hearty sierra
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You could also blood sacrifice to chaos

raw herald
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Good luck then

mint coral
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i remember taking a lot of "rewards are hidden" when starting the game
never again

hearty sierra
brisk trail
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Chaos boons don't effect Minibosses right

hearty sierra
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Like, i'd take it if I weren't tryharding

mint coral
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extra damage does

hearty sierra
brisk trail
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So I'm not fighting 77% more of the Megagorgon

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Good

hearty sierra
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Unless it's the doomcrystal, I think

wise oasis
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Minibosses have set amounts of enemies

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I'm not sure about doomcrystql but it's a pushover

hearty sierra
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Just stick a cast in it and meg it

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You don't need that many charges anyway

mint coral
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whats the point of the cast?

wanton quail
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Damage increase to target

hearty sierra
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To kill the rest of the health?

wanton quail
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Or whatever your cast is

mint coral
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boiling blood doesnt affect meg

wise oasis
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It only has like what 700 armor

mint spear
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I just meg the doom crystal and spam attack for a second or two and that does it

hearty sierra
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There is health after the shield

wanton quail
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Just so you don't have to cast after meg

hearty sierra
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lemme oneshot the damn thing

mint coral
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the other day i managed to do 5170 with than summon, was fun
change of peace of using gilga only to dash

wise oasis
hearty sierra
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@brisk trail Favourite olympian, personality-wise?

brisk trail
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Personality Wise? Dio.

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For boons probably Dio and Artemis

brisk trail
polar root
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"All bravado that one" -Aphrodite.

brisk trail
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Don't think Dio has any bad boons tbf. All good in a scenario at least. His cast is his most questionable though.

signal aspen
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peer pressure sucks

polar root
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"See green boon click green boon"

signal aspen
brisk trail
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It is to me

polar root
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is gud

brisk trail
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i instantly picked smoldering air

polar root
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god gauge go brrrrrrrr

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zeus call spam too gud

brisk trail
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especially since i already have the zeus boon that gives me +15% damage after using my call

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I'd rather have access to a full call for the harder bosses like Hades and the Elysium bosses though.

signal aspen
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it depends on the call that you have

polar root
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zoos call gud

brisk trail
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I have Dio call rn

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alright time for hades without god mode 🥶

signal aspen
brisk trail
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I suppose it'd work well for Dio

polar root
brisk trail
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Hades isn't too bad once you learn his movements

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A lot of his harder hitting attacks have a lot of reaction time

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yeah i melted asterius and theseus, this'll be fine

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although i did lose two dd's in tartarus

polar root
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umm

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warmup

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ezpz

brisk trail
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meg

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... and some witches

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Oh

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How many dds can you get from the mirror? 3?

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yep

hearty sierra
brisk trail
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dio cast has the disadvantage that it doesn't get lodged in foes, but it does big damage and the duo boons for it are good

polar root
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ICE WINEEEEEEEE

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jk

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go get mirage shot, please

weary jackal
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Why is there no Zeus romance option
There should be a Zeus romance option.

brisk trail
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no

short glen
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No

amber cloak
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Once Persephone leaves for Olympus is she permanently gone or coming back? Feels kinda bad to have worked through the entire game to get her back just for her to be gone afterwards. Something like her showing up every four runs would also match the whole, 3 seasons in Olympus and 1 season in the underworld mythology.

amber cloak
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Ah ok good

polar root
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she goes away often tho

short glen
gentle mason
strange kettle
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I was finally able to get 100% of the achievements out of this game.

polar root
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nicee job

neat stag
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If I finish a run on heat 5 before I finish a run on heat 1, do I get the awards for heats 1-4?

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Or do I need to go 1 heat at a time?

wise oasis
#

You'll get the rewards for the lowest heat you haven't cleared yet

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So you can do 5 heat 5 times to get premium rewards

neat stag
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Gotcha, so sounds like not much of a reason to skip heats and I should just go one at a time.

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Thanks!

ripe dirge
#

Just out of curiosity, what you guys' favorite weapon?

stoic flame
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rail

mint coral
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Hidden shield

stoic flame
#

how do you even play hidden shield

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i dont think im playing it right

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how many casts do you load at once

ripe dirge
#

Myself my favorite is the bow, and the one I like the least is the fists

wraith garnet
#

My pierced butterfly damage bonus reset down even though i never switched it, why?

merry bane
stoic flame
#

this em4 music bangs

mint coral
signal aspen
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Load all 14 of your casts at once

brisk trail
rich seal
#

Just got hades down to 10% health on 20th try

brisk trail
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Nice! You'll definitely get him next time. He just requires some learning of his movements.

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I've only beaten him once. On run 18 now. Pummelling Elysium enemies like there's no tomorrow.

ripe dirge
merry bane
wise oasis
ripe dirge
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I am pleasantly surprised how people's preference varies, I think it is a statement as to how good the weapon;s designs are

ripe dirge
wise oasis
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Works really nicely

stoic flame
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i too do not like

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spear

wise oasis
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Same

brisk trail
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Spear just isn't that great. It's attacks whole thing is range, and you can outspace it with alot of other weapons. It's special is just a worse Aegis special. It's charge up attack is far too unusable. The weapon is too reliant on good Hammer enchants and boons.

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Maybe I'm missing something tho

mint coral
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i agree about the hammer (flurry jab our beloved) but doesnt need much boons

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at least for achilles

brisk trail
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Yeah. It's just far too unreliable. At least with Shield or Fists you get consistent results. I use shield, I get to Hades. I use Fists, I beat the game, I use spear, I lose to Meg and then the Hydra.

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The Hydra for God's sake.

mint coral
#

you can also use achilles to do cast builds if you really dont want to touch the rest of its kit TowaShrug

brisk trail
#

Yeah fair. I'll stick with my punching until I find out that somethings better than them.

brisk trail
mint coral
#

dio attack on fists is nice

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tho you should get aphro (and if lucky, ares) for the duo boons

signal aspen
#

ME will literally destroy everything

brisk trail
#

And then Demeter Aspect with Artemis attack does ridiculously high damage.

rough orchid
#

yall, im tryna beat final boss here. but hes rlly hard

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i jus wanna unlock heat 😭

wise oasis
#

Hit em with the ol merciful end

brisk trail
# rough orchid yall, im tryna beat final boss here. but hes rlly hard

From my experience, (which is very limited) keep behind him. He has alot of attacks that focus on his front, like Asterius. If there's more than one skull, try take them down. When he goes invisible, his footsteps are still visible, so you know whre he's going to appear. Aside from that, it's just learning his attacks and the timings ect. Try get something that does extra damage to shielded enemies for the ones he summons.

rough orchid
#

ohh

mint coral
#

if you can get to dad without much problems from styx, take acorn/looky tooth

brisk trail
#

In his final form he's alot more aggressive. He likes to keep on top of you. Keep up the same sort of strategy but keep yourself around a pillar for his lava beams. The only thing you really have to dash away from is the 360 slash.

mint coral
#

dashing away from the spin is more dangerous imo, that thing has reach

wise oasis
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Keeping behind him doesn't help much, he turns to you and doesn't have a blind spot like asterius

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Distance is more valuable for dad

royal hamlet
#

For unlocking shield aspect I have to speak to chaos … does that mean I have to have shield equipped and not give her nectar just go to the normal boon interaction?

brisk trail
#

Me using Fists. Right.

rough orchid
#

i wanna unlock heat

wise oasis
mint coral
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ofc be sure you have the titan blood requirements first

brisk trail
#

Yeah tbf the moment I picked up fists Hades became way easier. With correct boons, you can take him down in a minute thirty, I'd guess.

royal hamlet
#

@mint coral is that just normal dialogue form as if I was to go for a boon or do I have to give her nectar for it?

wise oasis
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Just normal

mint coral
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chaos is they btw

reef zodiac
#

Does anyone happen to know exactly what happens if your switch died in the middle of a run? In this scenario, you are in the center room on Styx when it happens

brisk trail
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Died to Hades with a damn good time though

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7m 32s.
I mean I lost but that's a good time to get there

wise oasis
brisk trail
wise oasis
brisk trail
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Uh what

wise oasis
#

7 mins?

brisk trail
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Yeah.

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I timed it on my phone.

wise oasis
#

So 7:32 rta

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Im sorry but likr

signal aspen
#

The whole run took you 7 mins?

brisk trail
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Yeah.

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Idk hoe

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I thought it took me way longer

signal aspen
#

Bruh what

wise oasis
#

I feel like that's wr rta

signal aspen
#

That's like 3 min igt

brisk trail
#

Wr rta?

wise oasis
#

World record real time

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Do you have admin chamber?

reef zodiac
#

Did you happen to record this run

brisk trail
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Nah I wasnt recording

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I was just casually playing

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I heard there's a different ending

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So I'm trying to unlock it

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But Idk how

wise oasis
#

You have admin chamber right?

brisk trail
#

???

reef zodiac
wise oasis
#

The room that has all the shades working

brisk trail
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I'm not sure

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I'm in the middle of another run rn

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Just remember I didn't actually beat the game

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I lost

signal aspen
#

That includes Tartarus, asphodel, elysium, and styx?

brisk trail
#

Yeah

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2 room Satyr Sack

reef zodiac
#

Do you have IGT turned on in game?

wise oasis
#

Thats beyond unbelievable Im sorry

signal aspen
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Yeah

brisk trail
#

Meh understandable

brisk trail
wise oasis
#

3 weapons takes the wr around 15 mins per weapon of real time

brisk trail
#

I didn't know there was a timer feature built in lmao

reef zodiac
#

Go to your admin chamber and see how long it took you to die. Just for reference. You can screenshot the run saying that you died to Hades at however much time

brisk trail
#

Yeah if that's like world record time then it's understandable you don't believe.

signal aspen
#

And also your first clear took you 27 mins

brisk trail
#

Yeah ik

reef zodiac
#

Because I don’t really think you’re making it up, I think you just mistimed something or made some timing error

brisk trail
#

It does sound unbelievable I get why you're so sceptical.

brisk trail
#

Definitely more probable than me with world record times

signal aspen
#

Or maybe they are just routing their runs

rough orchid
#

which fists are the best?

stoic flame
#

bruh moment

reef zodiac
stoic flame
#

7 minute rta

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🚶‍♂️

signal aspen
stoic flame
#

yeah

stoic flame
#

no.

wise oasis
#

thats admin chamber just to make sure you've been there

stoic flame
#

gilgamesh

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😍

fathom moth
#

sussy

brisk trail
reef zodiac
signal aspen
#

Maybe they just have some pretty good rng

wise oasis
#

dream luck

rough orchid
#

next run ill try getting to hades with fists

brisk trail
signal aspen
#

Yeah that's what I thought lol

#

7 min RTA is insane

brisk trail
#

It literally has to be

wise oasis
#

I still am interested in the screenshot though if possible

brisk trail
#

Probably not. Don't have access to the Xbox app rn. Might be able to send it tomorrow tho

reef zodiac
#

Is dread flight any good on chaos shield

brisk trail
#

I'm so losing this Hades fight

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Like there's just no chance

#

I kinda feel bad for Hades tho

reef zodiac
#

Did you check the admin chamber?

brisk trail
#

It's the same run

reef zodiac
#

Oh alright it’s just been 4 minutes so I thought you might be done

brisk trail
#

Nah. I'll have a look tho

#

Can I beat Hades on 71 health with no DD? Hell no.

#

Yeah 3 hits and I'm dead

#

Funnn

wise oasis
#

my dads have saved the run

reef zodiac
#

Alright check the run before that in the admin room

brisk trail
#

Where abouts is it?

wise oasis
#

Near where than shows up

brisk trail
#

That door is locked.

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In between Than and Achilles?

reef zodiac
#

Oh you haven’t even unlocked it

wise oasis
#

Check the contractor maybe

brisk trail
#

No. I don't really know how lol

wise oasis
#

Unless you havent had the dream sequence

brisk trail
#

Don't think so.

#

What's an Erebus Gate?

signal aspen
#

its a gate to erebus

brisk trail
#

Oh really?

signal aspen
#

yeah its pretty crazy

brisk trail
#

Who is Erebus?

brisk trail
mint coral
#

They are chambers that you need to no hit
They are better rewards than normal chambers

signal aspen
# brisk trail What's an Erebus Gate?

erebus gates are these gates that require certain amounts of heat to enter (5 in tart, 10 in asphodel, and 15 in elysium) inside of those you will find enemies that you need to kill without getting hit

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and if you get hit you get an onion

brisk trail
#

Anything but an onion

wise oasis
#

1 hp wooo

brisk trail
#

3DD finallt

wise oasis
#

also eurydice will tell you your breath sucks if you eat an onion before seeing her

#

so dont do that

mint coral
#

Isnt there a victory message related to onions too?

brisk trail
#

Excuse me where the hell is Skelly

signal aspen
#

and hes never coming back

brisk trail
#

I don't allow that

#

Hes literally just not there

signal aspen
#

change your weapon

brisk trail
#

Nah I left already

signal aspen
#

oh

brisk trail
#

Will my boons always be the same if I restart a run?

#

So I didn't get the right Dio boon, if I go back in will they change

mint coral
#

If you give up the boons will be the same

#

So commit die if you wanna change them

brisk trail
#

And if I change my keepsake?

#

I just changed my keepsake to Artemis so I have the right boon now

wise oasis
#

Itll change the first boon

brisk trail
#

Would it change the rewards thi

#

So Dio had special

#

If I change to Artemis, will it still be special?

#

Am I making sense?

signal aspen
wise oasis
#

yes

brisk trail
#

Right okay I'll do that then

reef zodiac
#

Is 7:30 actually a top 150 time?

wise oasis
#

7:30 in game is like 140 or so

reef zodiac
#

Damn

wise oasis
#

wait no the times there are much tighter than I thought

#

115 for 7:32

reef zodiac
#

To be fair though, there are a lot more runs than that above it

#

It’s just that most of them are ties

#

Like there’s a 10 way tie for 58th

wise oasis
#

yeah it should be lower but Im not about to count it lol

#

higher? worse placement

high island
#

The - on the speedrun leaderboard doesn't indicate ties. It means that's the aspect record for that player but they have a better time with another aspect.

stoic violet
#

Oh my god I just got to pact 6 and Thesius and Asterius omg....

#

They're all glammed out it's amazing :3 I love this game!!

stoic violet
#

(pact 6 spoiler) ||He's got a flippin bandolier and throwing missiles everywhere|| XD I love it!!

high island
#

Don't be so impressed you forget to fight him. courte5Wut

stoic violet
#

I was running low on dd and health, so I did die there.... X3

#

Also I think it's hilarious that there's a Charon well item to just delete the flame wheels

undone stag
#

which aspect is good for the shield?

mint coral
#

Zeus/beowulf are good for high heat/speedruns but chaos/base still are decent iirc

lone kernel
#

Why is asphodel so short compared to tart and elysium

undone stag
#

cuz you rush through it so fast? they are all the same number of rooms @lone kernel

mint coral
#

They arent the same amount

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Tartarus is 14, aspho is 12 and idk elysium

high island
#

Bosses are in chamber 14 > 24 > 36.

lone kernel
#

So 14/10/12

high island
#

Tartarus is chambers 1–15. Asphodel is chambers 16–25. Elysium is chambers 26–37.

lone kernel
#

More the design philosophy behind it, I feel like I finish asphodel real quick compared to other two

high island
#

You do. Asphodel is the fastest area.

gentle mason
high island
#

Well, biome length isn't a goal, it's a means to an end.

stoic flame
#

16 heat was surprisingly easy

#

time to skip to 32

#

and get my ass beat

high island
#

I guess they've decided that the length of Asphodel works well enough for the purpose of encounter variety and stuff.

#

Good luck with 32 Heat.

stoic flame
#

sure

#

not now tho

#

its shlep time

#

1 am 💀

mint coral
#

The best time for trying 32 heat

kind swan
reef zodiac
#

Beowulf 34 heat let’s go!

polar marsh
#

Downloading hades gemme gemme

sick ibex
#

well, unfortunately can confirm, hades on fightstick isnt good. movement is way to jerky, as it doesnt let the stick act as an analogue stick, only as dpad. so pretty much cant smoothly rotate directions, its blatant UP, or RIGHT, or UP/RIGHT, no middle ground between those inputs so you move in an 8way lock. unfortunate

wise oasis
#

I mean that's how kbm is, it's not that bad

brave portal
#

Why would you use a fightstick outside of fighting games

sick ibex
#

because you invested in one so why not use it on everything you can lol. it rules for shumps too

#

anything that really doesnt need a second stick for camera control

sick ibex
wise oasis
#

Ah fair if you're using it to aim too that must suck

sick ibex
#

yeah, really didnt think it would be anything other than awesome. pretty dissapointed. it rocks for stuff like DC and HK and all that. top down arcade shooters, and old school arcade games rock for it too. and metal slug type games, and streets of rage style games. fightsticks actually are awesome for so many more games than fighters. but hades, isnt one lol

brave portal
#

I mean those games were Made for arcade machines to begin with

rough orchid
#

yall

spice flame
#

Hey bois i have a question with this boon

rough orchid
#

poseidon giving me unshakeable mettle and tidal dahs

spice flame
#

Oh, crap i cant send screen

rough orchid
#

i cant chooseee

spice flame
#

Anyway..

#

Blood freenzy from Ares

#

Is from ONE ROOM or the whole RUN?

sick ibex
brave portal
#

Yeah but hades wasn't

#

So like it's pretty obvious that it wouldn't work smoothly

sick ibex
#

eh, yes, first part, no second part. megaman deadcells and hollowknight werent made for it either and theyre awesome on it.

brave portal
#

I mean those are side scrollers

fiery bramble
#

I definitely could not play Dead Cells on a fight stick, Hades might be easier

polar marsh
#

U think there might be a fix for the controls on console or nah

fiery bramble
#

What's wrong with them?

polar marsh
#

I thought there was something wrong with the hades console version with its controls

fiery bramble
#

Not that I know of, I'm like 70 hours in, feels fine

polar marsh
#

Ok so it was something else lol

sick ibex
# brave portal I mean those are side scrollers

so? your first question is why use a fightstick on ANYTHING other than fighters. My reply is, but there are all these games that work great? Your reply, yeah but those were made for arcade sticks. Okay, here are these ones that werent, your reply, well those are side scrollers. Lmao, at what point do you get a satasfactory answer? or just disagree for the sake of disagree?

fiery bramble
#

The only issue I know if is certain achievements weren't unlocking but that's fixed with a reset

brave portal
#

Fightstick, fighting games

polar marsh
#

So the achievements are working now or still need to use reset to get it working

brave portal
#

Get it?

fiery bramble
sick ibex
polar marsh
#

Ok so it is a little wonky but still good

kind swan
#

What does ||Hades' Call|| do?

leaden geyser
leaden geyser
gentle mason
rough orchid
#

i had a perfect build and died to theseus 😭😭 this game is hard sometimes

#

i had 1k coins too

spice flame
# leaden geyser one room

For example, how will I get this boon in elizium. And I will die 3 times in the presence of Hades, I will get this bonus, right?

And does he stack when I have 3 resurrections?

wise oasis
#

It doesn't stack sadly

rough orchid
#

this entire run ive only gotten poseidon boons

#

i cant tell if im lucky or unlucky

spice flame
#

Oh, okey.. But still works in room with hades if i get this boon in for example in tartar or elizium, right?

wise oasis
#

Yep, as long as you die in that chamber you get a damage buff in that chamber

spice flame
#

Thank you very much.

wise oasis
rough orchid
#

just beat alecto with 4 poseidon boons bc poseidon rlly likes his nephew this run

kind swan
reef zodiac
#

Why does bronze skin do half as much as different league??

raw herald
#

Different league is nearby enemies

#

Bronze skin is everything

reef zodiac
#

What’s the big difference

manic bobcat
#

laughs in witches

reef zodiac
#

Still, that’s not a good enough reason for it to be half as effective

rough orchid
#

im at the bome hydra and the only 1 out of 6 boons ive gotten that isnt poseidon was from the shop

reef zodiac
#

Isn’t that like… very normal? You’re saying you have 6 non-Poseidon boons, and one of them was bought from the shop? Or am I misunderstanding?

rough orchid
#

i have 5 poseidon ones

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and ONE aphrodite

spice flame
#

XD

rough orchid
#

ar least i caught a legendary catch

#

adtually i got two

#

one from a perfect catch

reef zodiac
#

I just got a second chaos gate in Tartarus even though I didn’t buy a light of Ixion

#

Wtf? Isn’t that not supposed to happen

rough orchid
#

my rng is insane

reef zodiac
#

I’m actually so confused

rough orchid
#

eye of lamia activates like every enemy rn

raw herald
#

Can get c2 and c12 chaos yeah

reef zodiac
#

I did not know that could happen

rough orchid
#

what does c12 mean

#

FINALLY ARTEMIS

raw herald
#

Chamber 12

#

The last combat room before meg

rough orchid
#

ohh

#

I ACCIDENTALLY PISSED OFF APHRODITE

raw herald
#

thanthink surprised that the bot allows that

rough orchid
#

I live.

reef zodiac
#

What heat are you playing at

rough orchid
#

0

#

i missed out on chaos gate with huge cast… so at what cost?

wanton quail
#

I have the dumbest random build rn but its kinda fast at the same time

rough orchid
#

theseus time

#

poseidon vs the minotaur and the other guy

warm geode
#

Hey guys, i have a question: how do you complete the Zeus favor? Ive tried reading the wiki they dont seem to have a lot of detail on how to get it. This is the last bond i need after the confusing dusa and Aphrodite bond.

#

Somebody on a reddit thread said it’s better to ask in here so

modern garnet
#

It's just a lot of talking I think

heady cypress
#

I'm currently in chaos's realm and he/shes offering me a boon that reduces my health by 5 everytime I do an attack for the next 3 rooms is it even possible to survive that?

mint coral
#

Dont get hit

modern garnet
#

That curse only affects your main attack

heady cypress
#

I have like 23 hp and I'm regenerating 2 or 3 hp per hit

modern garnet
#

You can use your special and not get hurt

heady cypress
modern garnet
#

No you gotta use your special

heady cypress
#

Or do they count as normal attacks

#

Alright

south lagoon
heady cypress
#

That will work I'll accept it

warm geode
#

Well I’ve already talked a lot to zeus by now (around 10-15 times) so is it even more than that?

south lagoon
#

not just to Zeus

#

to the otherOlympians also

warm geode
#

Ive hear hades’s regards about zeus and stuff so idk what I’m missing

#

And yes I’ve heard the other Olympian’s regards abut zeus

rough orchid
#

poseidon has cleared the other guy… now can he clesr styx

#

does styx have a pool of purging?

south lagoon
#

not in the big room but sometimes in the chambers

rough orchid
#

its confusing how his MEGA SHOP doesnt have them tbh

south lagoon
#

getting thru his dialogue

warm geode
#

Dang

#

And just when I finish dusa bond there’s more rng lol

#

Well thx

rough orchid
#

okay

#

tips for final boss? reached him again

spice flame
#

A this skeletor dummy and its 3 face down something.

For the first one I have to collect 8 skulls.
I have to do something worth 8 skulls, can I do something for 3, and then something for 5, for example?

manic bobcat
#

is there a specific aspect of the fight that you have trouble with?

spice flame
#

monument?

manic bobcat
#

otherwise, don't get hit clef and good luck.

rough orchid
modern garnet
#

Take the fight slowly, there's no rush

modern garnet
#

Stay back and figure out the moves

manic bobcat
spice flame
manic bobcat
rough orchid
#

oh wow easy fight

#

Oh.

high island
#

Empty dash gives you i-frames, Dash-Strikes don't. Focus on learning the timing to i-frame his spin attacks.

modern garnet
#

LMAO

rough orchid
#

Maybe i should have brought dd instead

manic bobcat
high island
#

Fight should be a lot easier once you have that down.

reef zodiac
#

Dash strikes give you 0 i-frames? Or just less i-frames?

rough orchid
#

Guys, is there a way to perhaps defeat him woty 36 health

manic bobcat
signal aspen
reef zodiac
manic bobcat
#

lmao i love this channel

rough orchid
signal aspen
rough orchid
#

Okay

#

Guys is there a way to beat him with 1 health besides not getting hit

high island
#

Your Dash gives you invulnerability. If you press attack or anything mid-dash, it cancels your invulnerability.

raw herald
#

Simply do enough damage to deplete his health to 0 before he does the same to you

high island
#

So, a Dash into a delayed Dash-Attack would have invulnerability until you press Attack.

raw herald
#

Punch punch punch

reef zodiac
high island
#

No.

rough orchid
#

Guys. Is there a way to beat him after youre dead

manic bobcat
weary jackal
signal aspen
high island
#

Divine Dash doesn't give you invulnerability at all beyond what you normally have.

mint coral
#

Deflects

weary jackal
#

I swear DD’s shield aura lasts an extra like 0.2 seconds

rough orchid
#

at least i got legendary fish…

#

enough keys to get fated aurhority and stuff

manic bobcat
#

how far did you get?

high island
#

Deflected attacks can't harm you. But if an attack connects with your hurtbox on the same frame it connects with your deflect box, you get hit and the attack isn't deflected.

signal aspen
rough orchid
manic bobcat
#

i mean how close are you to defeating him

high island
#

Divine Dash creates an area around you that deflects attacks, pretty much.

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And does a little bit of damage.

rancid shoal
#

Any games like hades but less violent and not fast paced

rough orchid
manic bobcat
rough orchid
#

abouttt 75%

reef zodiac
rancid shoal
rough orchid
rough orchid
manic bobcat
signal aspen
weary jackal
reef zodiac
rancid shoal
spice flame
#

is there a list somewhere which features what give? I mean the package of benefits in heat

rough orchid
#

anyway yall which one do i get

rancid shoal
manic bobcat
reef zodiac
#

No seriously like I’m pretty sure there isn’t a single slow-paced non-violent rogue-like in existence

rough orchid
#

i think im getting legacy and persuasion tbh

spice flame
#

Thanks, guys, love you ❤️

manic bobcat
weary jackal
manic bobcat
high island
#

If UnholyPancake doesn't know about it, it doesn't exist.

reef zodiac
reef zodiac
rough orchid
#

ok i switched to dd

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hopefully i dont die in asphodel

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to the cursed magma

manic bobcat
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yeah i don't like SD starting out tbh

rough orchid
manic bobcat
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just don't step on them

rough orchid
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thanks hypnos

manic bobcat
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youre welcome

high island
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FoxHope is right.

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I stopped stepping on magma and immediately got better results.

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Even in real life.

rough orchid
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its not THAT easy to dodge

manic bobcat
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life is pain, princess. anyone saying otherwise is selling something.

heady cypress
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Help im starting to simp for megaira are all the bosses here in this game so... Uhm well designed?(only fought her so far)

spice flame
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xd

rough orchid
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ooh i got codex index

manic bobcat
reef zodiac
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I mean I’m just literally unable to imagine a game that is like Hades, but not fast paced or violent. That’s like asking for a game that’s like Minecraft, but without any mining and you can’t craft. Or a game that’s like Celeste but doesn’t require fast button inputs and doesn’t have any platforming. I’m not saying it doesn’t exist, just that I can’t even imagine what it could conceivably look like

rough orchid
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man after that run i feel so demotivated 😭

high island
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Alecto is way cuter than Meg.

rough orchid
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i guess ill farm darkness again

heady cypress
manic bobcat
rough orchid
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also does fated persuasion reset with each boon

manic bobcat