#h1-discussion
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I'm thinking a heart rend with artemis attack and passion dash might work
and HM
HM is one of the best non duo/legendary boons, it can carry a whole build
I've had it carry builds that had nothing to do with artemis just because I got an epic pressure points
Marking hades by attacking his supports is so nice
Heartbreak Flourish + Curse of Agony and Curse of Longing.
You'll get better at the elysium boss over time. The bull attacks are fairly predictable and you'll be dodging them consistently as you keep playing
Oooh
Divine Strike + Deadly Flourish > Deadly Reversal. Also Support Fire and Hunter's Mark, ideally. Both Divine Dash and Hunter Dash are fine.
He's right, might take a few attempts but they're very predictable
In the wise words of pp man
kill the bull first, learn attack patterns, use the pillars to avoid taking damage, make sure bull is dead before you get theseus to his second phase, when you see a pink crosshair on you that means that theseus is gonna throw his spear at you, after he throws his spear he will turn around which means you can attack him, when he is in his second phase you should spend more time dodging the things he summons
Drunken Strike, Deadly Flourish, Passion Dash and get all of their Duo Boons.
Remember that you can dash through the pillars to stun asterius when he chases you and hide from theseus' spears
Throw a curse of vengeance in there if I can
That's stretching it but sure lol.
Zeus based
I'm stick of him by now
all good
That's what I usually do
it's the most consistent
For my zeus fists builds
I also like getting artemis in elysium or even earlier
for support fire and/or HM
Would this also work work for eris?
My zeus fists builds usually involve thunder strike/zeus' aid -> static discharge -> stormlightning/double strike -> splitting bolt and heartbreak flourish -> smoldering air -> billowing strength
Yeah, that's the general idea.
Lightning Strike + Deadly Flourish + Tidal Dash is also somewhat popular.
I'd take Long Knuckle.
I tried it with tidal, was kinda annoying without long knuckle
Yeah, I don't like it.
Deadly flourish if I can get it cuz it opens up support fire
Well, mainly just for the high damage. But Support Fire is always good.
I'm intending to get aphro in asphodel
Should I go drunken dash to get the dionysus aphro duo or his aid for the zeus aphro duo
idk how strong his call is
im pretty sure his call is good, not too sure tho
dio call is good, just dont do the max call
Best Call for DPS.
Although Zeus' Aid can go higher with t2 boons and Splitting Bolt.
zeus does that
I am intending to go there, but IG that's very luck based
Well, and there's Hades' Aid, of course.
Drunken Dash works better on aspects that dash away from enemies than aspects that mainly dash towards enemies.
That was my thought process, thanks
Please don't call it SD. We don't need another initialism in the community that's also an initialism for another thing. 
then again, i dash through em with malphon at the end of the combo
got dat aspect of lucifer as my first hidden
Ma bad, I'm lazy
wut
I thought the spear was 1st
i meant the first one that i actually purchased
ah
mb
idk, I feel like i've been screwing myself over every time I get a common boon I need but am sad it's common
sometimes it works out
and sometimes it don't
Common Jolted is fine. You could roll for higher rarity or Billowing, maybe Storm Lightning or High Voltage or Electric Shot.
I'll take my chance
Like, there's gonna be something decent to pick if you roll.
What was the third option?
common vengance
I don't think common Jolted is too bad, you can just put a couple poms on it.
What other is there?
Sigh... at least artemis isn't stingy with HM
stubborn defiance?
I mean what other two things share initials
What's "HM"? 
Me bad at phrasing things
probs hunter's mark
Hunter's mark
there's multiple HMs?
Well, there's Hell Mode.
oh mb
Had Minfluence
what
Hivine Mash.
stop.
Hightning Mtrike.
Erciful Mnd
holdering mair
It's Smoldering Air.
oh, I English very well
Reart Hend
Nyaanyaa, you know any good beowulf builds?
I wanted to try it
People sing its praises all the time
I would hope so. I had high heat WR with Beowulf in Early Access.
oooh, nice
You build Beowulf pretty much the same way you build Hera.
Passion Flare with Mirage Shot and/or Snow Burst.
Just that Mirage Shot has higher priority on Beowulf because it's bugged and does 100% damage instead of 30% if your Cast is a Flare.
You can also take Flood Shot and look for the same things for an easier route to Mirage Shot and even larger AOE, but the base damage and pom scaling of Flood Shot isn't as good as Passion Flare.
Flood Flare is also good to more consistently get mirage
Trippy Flare with Stygian Soul for the highest base damage is also an option, but you'll be relying on getting +1 ammo from Master Chaos or from Wells of Charon.
i have now learned that aspect of lucifer is better than sex
All three of those builds are meta. Passion Flare is the tried-and-true since release, Trippy Flare was always there, too, and Flood Flare is a little more recent than those two but also very common.
The #1 build in Early Access, though, was Charged Flight + Heartbreak Flourish + Zeus' Aid, which almost entirely ignores the Attack and Cast in favor of the Special.
Charged Flight did +400% base damage at the time instead of +200% now.
The build was totally broken then, and it was obviously nerfed a lot, but it's still actually very effective.
Zeus' Aid for Smoldering Air, of course.
Although getting the Call and Duo Boon wasn't necessary. It just made it even stronger.
am I just dumb or are the little explody chariots really hard to deal with using fists?
doing dio strike and aphro flourish to clear some duos on the prophecy list and those rooms mess me up bad
When you're at short range like that, it's real hard to punch em to death
I like to just run them into walls instead
They move exactly like a certain charging bull
hmm alright thanks, good idea
If you don't have Deflect, don't engage them with Malphon.
The armored Flame Wheels should be fine to engage with a bit of caution.
I am so addicted to this game
what is jolted called on ello's dps mod?
The ranks are actually the last thing I have left to do in the game. I’m missing about 300,000 darkness to get them, I have all the other resources. I wonder how long it will take to farm that much darkness…
Well some dude did it in 347 hours total, so who knows
i am kind of way past that time lol
pro gamer
You'll get their, believe me
Nice! I ran EM hades around 16 heat for fun but not in my 32 heat run. Just too long and tedious of a fight.
I know, this is old.
But did they not? Is that not the plot that Juliet did, woke up and then killed herself for real after seeing romeos body?
Juliet did in fact have a death defy, but it was stubborn defiance so she only had the one until she went to the next room
how in the river of styx do i get the last spear upgrade
the hidden aspect?
Requirements for hidden aspects are pinned in #h1-story-discussion.

yes
then yeah what Nyaayaa said
also why am i missing a god i dont have hades on the list but he is not helping me so i am lost
bow sucks ass
bow is hard to use
also I think the missing god your refering to is firt encountered the run after you first reach the final boss
i dont like using bows in games so that might just be me
bow good just do dash strikes
why is there a gun in this game
why not
it is set in roman times
we dont know their secrets 
the characters say it was just too dangerous to be put out in the world
the ammo thing looks like arrows so semi auto bow thing
can you do anything else with ambrosia other than just use it for trades?
You can gift it to characters later on.
Early hearts are Nectar, later hearts are Ambrosia.
and also upgrading something youll get later
The most important uses are gifting them all to Lady Aphodite and unlocking her theme from the House Contractor.

ooo
is aphrodite's theme really that good?
i like it, i use it all the time
either that or infinite
LMAO
ares the best boon
Hi. I've been working on online boon chart for all the major prerequisites and relationships. I'm still tweaking things, but I think its far enough along to see if makes sense to anybody else.
Interactive web chart of boons in Hades by Supergiant Games showing duo and legendary requirements
looks cool
it was pretty tough but any other approach i took to get to heat 32 seemed much harder; that and it felt right fighting em hades for the final heat unlockable
Makes sense
Same question 
its really out of place yeah
Greek times
sorry i meant greek
it looks like bolts for the ammo
You can see the shells
maybe there is a macknic that uses something to shoot them out
What's the world speedrun record?
5:49 unseeded, 3:46 seeded/routed
The 5:49 uses aspect of Achilles, and the 3:46 uses aspect of Beowulf
how on earth do you get 3 minutes??
Before anything else, a huge thank you to paradigmsort and cgull for creating and refining this route. With this run we finally have a faster routed time post-release than we had during early access. The previous all-time routed WR was my 3:51 Nemesis run from the Blood Price update, and the post-release record before this route was 4:25 by Sata...
it was a routed run
ima stay with my comfy 20min
Muck
3:46 thats insane wtf
it's been a bajillion years since i last speedran hades and it's already down to sub-4:00

i feel guilty for not continuing to go turbo fast after i got my first sub-10
By manipulating the RNG so that everything is exactly what you want, this includes room rewards, room layout, enemy type etc. You only need to do 4 Tartarus combat chambers, and one combat chamber in both Asphodel and Elysium, and with the insane builds you get, you can one-shot boss phases. The rest is just good movement in-between chambers, which is helped by the +3 dashes early on.
Oh, it’s actually seeded
I thought it was new Unseeded WR
The seeded WR has been sub-4 since blood price, but the unseeded record is just below 6 minutes.
o
that makes sense
otherwise world records would be kinda pointless with how much rng is involved
Would be surprised if someone breaks the record without this channel not blowing up lol
Tbh, the SGG servers don't blow up, the speedrunning servers do
The route where Zagreus, Thanatos, and Megaera end up in a polygamous relationship is canon
You will never change my mind
Okay, I get that what is canon is whatever you want to be
But I don't care
i dont think its canon tbh
I thought it is canon? Lol
The canon route is whichever one you do in your game wym
i interpreted zag + than + meg as the "true" route but greatly appreciated the "either way, it will be ok" options
em4 hades just summoned 2 butterfly balls and i suck with poseidon aspect
im ded
Man I freaking cried at that, I wanted to turn Meg down because I wasn't entirely comfortable with how,,, intense her and Zag's side of the relationship is but I was afraid of ruining their relationship the way back to it was before but then the game literally read my mind and broke the fourth wall to assure me it would be ok and I 🥺
i ended up going with both but was def considering turning down Meg bc she is not my type (lol) and i was worried about my boy than. if "either way, it will be ok" wasn't there i might've turned her down if only bc i wasn't sure if it'd affect him and zag. but everything was indeed ok 
From one of the newsletters: “we got to thinking about a legendary artifact so sinister that the Olympians discarded it in the depths of Tartarus, after using it to defeat the titans. It would have the ferocity of the gryphon of Greek myth…” so basically why not but this is the canon reason
I personally romanced all options because I wanted to see all the content in the game haha
I did just Than in my first playthrough but did both of them in my second for the same reason
i was planning to do Meg in a second playthrough if i turned her down in my first but realistically i am not sure i would've gotten that far
i am historically bad at making any progress in second save files
me who went all the way through to the epilogue in two and started a third lmao
I just love this game so much
In my playthrough, I got on the Meg relationship pretty early, so it feel like a no brainer to me, and then, hundreds of hours later, Than happened. It happened so late, I think it was right before epilogue
yeah I did not go very far in any of my “second” save files, I love being overpowered too much and I’m too attached to my first save file. As long as I still have something to do on it, even if it’s just grinding darkness for ranks…
Of course I did check up on the internet and well, I just go through with both for the sake of completion
My second save (hell mode), is still stuck at 12 runs, and I can’t bring myself to go and run that save instead of my main one
Like, I don’t have that push or motivation to do it again lol
what does hell mode change
5 heat from the get go
4 selected from the pact as it is now and 1 extra special condition
whats that condition then
You aren’t protected from continuous burst damage anymore
It removed the shield you get when you take massive damage, so you can pretty much die in one hit
There’s a hidden mechanic in the game, where it protects you from bursts damage
Oh, so hades sends you to the house instantly
If you get hit by big damage continuously, yeah
woot
Let it rip
i love to see my enemies melt
I just WRECKED asterius & theseus
3/3 death defiances 
hades time
will this be the run?
good luck!!!
Im kinda dissapointed that after many fights between Asterius and the other guy there still is only the one good shade and not a group of them. Surely some other good shades would become fans of zag
poggers
also I want to give nectar to the good shade. He deserves it
does anyone know if you can preorder Hades as a gift for PS5?
is Damage Control a good first heat
eh
its kinda annoying
id say probably jury summons
or extremem measures 1
just to start getting used to it
damage control is easy start if youre using something with a lot of quick attacks like exagryph
Died to charon in tartarus pog
its easy for me cuz its only one extra hit
it depends on the weapon
its annoying for somethings like meg only doing 1 damage vs heroes
when does the second heart for hades unlock, 10 clears?
Yeah
@chrome yoke do not use damage control lol
im using extreme measures now
1-4?
is the 300 coin ''borrow'' from charon permanently there now
Its gonna be there sometimes
it's random
1, i just beat the game for the first time like 15 mins ago
Optional boss fighr
well i got it two times in a row now
U can turn on timer as ur first heat along w em1 or em2
Then slowly turn down the timer
That can keep u up till like heat 16? I think ido
5:00 minute per region and em3 is 16 right? or is it 12
Hmmm
Yeah and am tellin u what u can do lol
.
9:00 per region is worth 1 heat
yeah ik but im already busy with em1 now
Lol whatchu usin
Extreme measures 1 is a tiny difficulty increase, especially when compared to something like heightened security
They just finished their first run lol
which arm/aspect?
Which aspect and what boons ur tryna get
just zag stygian blade, going for hunting blades
but im getting a lot of dash slash boons
hunting blades
Thats my favourite build
But i use achilles spear lol
Way better suited than zag sword
U should try get ir
💀
Its probably the weakest aspect in the game
cool!
Just sayin
i like it however :)
Never using the special for spear doesnt mean u never can
150% cast damage per cast is
Very gud w hunting bladez
Yeah, theres pretty much no reason to use zag sword for cast builds
EM 1 was pretty easy, very fun
Lol
Wait, achilles does that?
yes
U will notice it if u put other pacts
perhaps
im at the 5-7 heat level rn
but im playing so much dead cells these days hades just doesnt get played
Achilles replaces special throw w a spear dash that makes next 4 attacks or cast do 150% at max level
U dash and u get a rush that does that
ooh
Thats why its very good for cast builds like hunting blades
that would be a lot of getting used to specials though
Not really
Its way better than normal spear throw
Its like a charged dash
Gives so much mobility and is very intuitive
for now im just saving up titan blood, too scared to spend it on anything yet
i have 6 however
Keep savin'
EM1 only changes fury's right
hades buff does not sound very pleasant
also seconding practicing Achilles special, the buff is cool n mobility is pretty fun
60 heat has been done twice
jezus
64 has been done but it was a routed run
64 exists?
nice
god its so 🦆 ing op
As you increase the heat linearly, difficulty increases exponentially
So the jump from 25-30 heat is so much easier than the jump from 50-55 heat
Which makes those 60 heat completions really impressive
this is the real run winner ngl i love it so much
thesues and asterius absolutely ripped to shreds
hunting blades more like instant win
lmao
300 HP, 3 Death defiances, a LOT of boons and hunting blades, hades is going down
Thanks for the advice kiwi, i was on my 64 heat run and I just beat the world record thanks to this enlightening advice
Madman
Hades is dead. Second clear ever
Ez
Tell mom i said high
Also enjoy the sunrises as much as you can, you won't be seeing them for very long
its almost like hades is starting to show respect
saying that it wont be long before our private meeting, essentially implying that he knows zag can do it
only begrudgingly
high
howdy
Can someone send me a printout of the full codex in the artifacts part?
SUB 10
SUB 10
I DID IT
LETS GOOOOOOO
So many runs at 10:20
10:30
Etc
FINALLY
dub
you need the list of artifacts?
or the descriptions for each artifact
for the descriptions you can check the wiki
In my codex I only have ambrosia, nectar and diamond. How do I get the missing artifacts?
Loyalty card is from || fighting Charon || and you get the onion when you fail an Erebus gate
thxx
Ok so i started to do more runs with aspect of zues
And it's slowly becoming my favorite
Still gotta unlock the other hidden aspects tho
But the aspect of zeus isn't a hidden aspect 
chamber 6, shall i try to take on charon?
What do you have?
passion dash and dash nova ^^
Ik i just worded it wrong oops
6 chamber yeah
dam it got him to 3/8 of his hp nearly
sup
Depends on your attack i think
Why is than bad for speed running? It freezes the timer in than rooms so surely it’d be better than a regular room
I wish there was a chanel just to thanks the dev. 
wow, only lost 73 health total in the theseus and asterius fight. best i've done on that battle
and the damage was mostly cause the closer they came to death, the more reckless i got
Playing with aspect of Achilles for the first time feels so awkward
Pain
Well hey on the bright side it’s back to back free rooms
Also how hasn’t tidal dash been nerfed yet it’s the best boon in the game for speedrunning
zagreus: "heracles"
me: https://youtu.be/MUEuH0awQNg
yeah but it's not that good otherwise tbh
divine dash is better for safety
much better
also tidal isn't that amazing for beowulf, which is one of the 3 fastest aspects, probably
Is anyone able to consistently beat Charon?
I have like 100+ clears and still get whooped by him most of the time
those 60dmg hits hurt 😭
its not the best
its just quite good
`just dont take him on at tartarus unless youre confident enough
i've beaten hades 3 times now, and still haven't found the opportunity to fight charon. i know it doesn't appear in shops right before the boss
his atks are pretty telegraphed so it should be at the very least just annoying if you're fughting him once youre at aspho or elysium
Hello guys, does multipliers for room rewards stack or it's multiplicative
for exemple is it 20%*65% or it's 20%+65%
oh dear god
I just barely lost on a 50 heat beowulf run
and realized I hadn't been recording
so now I'm glad I died lmao
i just beat my first run of hades on attempt 18, can someone tell me if thats good or not because i dont know
faster than average I think
took me like 50 lol
oh ok damn
idk i just spam my keyboard to victory every time stacking hp
i played dungeon a bit before but i was awful at it
gungeon is hard
its pretty good, i got my first clear at like 33
ok thank you
i dont know sorry
he hits hard but is easy to dodge. i usually just dash through the little wave attacks. i haven't fought him more than a handful of times but this has been working ok for me?
18 is very good btw. i was 60 lol
how many times will i be able to go to greece before it becomes inaccessible? the wiki just says it's once i complete the main story, but i don't exactly know what that means
10 cleara
What multipliers are you talking about here? 
If it's like +50% obols and +30% obols, that kind of stuff is all additive.
finally got to fight charon. it was in tartarus tho and after i decided to pick up the twin fists for the first time in forever. didn't end well lol
Got some unlucky combinations of the little heads?
u ever just get blue heads + 4 purple heads on achilles and just die
i feel like i usually seem to have a harder time with theseus+asterius than i do with hades. like after i get out of elysium, i feel relieved af. anyone else have this experience?
I used to? But I think I've got those two down now
As long as I don't have extreme measures on for them
i think it might be a focus thing. cause while i'm focusing on asterius, i'm also having to dodge the spear and watch theseus. and if you lose focus on either, a quarter of your health is gone
if u kill them before they kill u they cant kill u
adamant rail is my best, but i'm trying to branch out. still don't know how to deal with them with the melee weps lol
with aspect of lucifer they're much easier of course lol
Ah, I only use Varatha so
fellow achilles user
Achilles all the way
beo shield is fun 
i have achiles. maybe i'll give it a whirl
i'm a lil' trash at base spear tho
like not complete trash, but a lil
then why do i hate it ;-;
idk, why do i hate hera 

...it took me. To my FINAL death defiance. AND the VERY END BEFORE BOSS. And 4 of each Athena and Ares boons
to get
Merciful End
does nyx’s favor only require nyx’s locked heart to activate, or anything else? It’s been a couple runs since I gave her all the nectar and still haven’t gotten the prompt for the eldest sigil
nyx still hasn't given me the other set of mirror upgrades, and i'm starting to hate her as a result
the green side of the mirror ig?
yeh
'bout to get wrecked by Hades yo
isnt that auto unlocked?
i know she mentions that "your mirror grown stronger" or something like that but 
God bless
it's unlocked by talking to her with a minimum of 300 darkness according to the wiki
and afaik, she hasn't given it to me yet. unless she did and i just overlooked it
probably check the mirror and see if u can switch it
if i've been missing out on the green side while having it this whole time, imma scream
ok, what is that Chord progression at 2:37 in ||"in the blood"||? I NEED TO KNOW, IT'S AMAZING
You should see arrow thingies down the left side of the mirror skills like
▶️ ◀️
🙃
i feel like i need to apologize to nyx personally now for hating on her for no reason
I think it's this
Aaand it isn't working
why
i been wasting my darkness on trading this whole time cause i thought i was done lmao
At least most of the green skills aren't used that much besides the last 4
if youre trying to upload an image for the chords that won't work in this channel. do u have a link for it?
high confidence is nice
stygian is nice so hermes wont bully u
and if you already spent lots in the last 4 purple ones you can always refund it
yeah stygian soul and stubborn def are good and cheap anyway
authority isnt that good
i know this is off topic but can anyone rate super meat boy?
i wanna know if its worth getting
prob better to ask in #video-games
death defiance vs stubborn depends on the heat and how much u die tbh
Mmmm
they reeeeallly should make the green skills more obvious. Like make the arrow icons blink the first time you get them
if i paid attention to the dialogue, i probably would've noticed lol
f minor -> c major -> a flat major -> b flat major -> a flat major -> c major -> c f b flat chord -> f minor
is it called Slash Chord?
just an educated guess based on a quick google search
I know NOTHING about music theory, my curiosity's just getting the best of me at this point
if you want me to type out the individual notes in order i can?
wait, the notes of the song itself?
the notes of the chords
I see what you mean... it's hella strong. right now it's doing more damage than my bow's power shot (no attack boon yet)
is there a way to do the friends forever achievement more quickly?
in tartarus rn and this dash is smashing everything really fast
tidal dash is good yeah
ab g ab f ab g bb
f e eb d eb e f
c c c bb c c c (end)
sorry i dont know any chord theory or whatnot but this is what i can hear
never took music class myself, but it just fascinates me so much!
feel like I shouldnt be able to just dash around and kill everything 
thanks for doing this!
if they nerfed tidal dash i swear speedruns would literally just implode
could be good! new playstyles maybe, shake things up a bit
nah
(not that I know anything about speed running)
top times would literally just implode
I mean whats wrong with that 👀
its per version
Oh I mean wouldn't the rankings change??
Yeah
I doubt they'd all be judged equally
tidal dash is very important in the meta for speedrunning imo
older version times are discarded, only newer ones matter
meta is
imo. But that's why I don't speedrun
if theres balance changes

what do i have to do for nyx to talk about her quest for me? ive given her 6 nectar
get more nectar with chaos
hello, how is everyone doing today?
im good but slightly mald
miniature air-launched decoy?
close enough
lul sure buddy
i keep forgetting i have my than companion.... i try to save it for one of the last bosses, but by the time i reach them, i forget it exists and then the battle takes way longer than needed
meanwhile 2 more ambrosia till me and death boi go to town 😎
Let me tell you guys, if I had remembered about the mirror talent that increases chances for duos and legendaries earlier it would have saved me hours
Also, I worked out that currently I mathematically cannot beat strict deadline. My runs average around 30 minutes and 3 9 minute time limits is 27 minutes total.
then practice to get faster
Yes that is the goal
While I appreciate your faith, I find it unlikely. How many hours do ya'll have? I've currently got 111.9 hours
231.6
after a certain point TD3 and TD2 are essentially free heat
i mean i can probably clear TD3 and TD2 considering my times but i dont put the pact on like ever
I'm not amazing by any means but I can keep all my runs in the 18-20min range without much sweating, so TD2 isnt going to cause any issue
tbh I think trying to speedrun sucks the fun out of the game, I like taking my time, hearing all the dialogue, enjoying the scenery /hj
i find speedrunnign quite fun
because i can go f a s t
but it all depends on the type of person
but then again when i played hades i generally didnt care about most of the dialogue i dont think
generally the people that do speedrunning already heard all or most of the dialogue
and the time pauses during those anyways
and I'm over here still getting out of the habit of tiptoeing nervously into Asphodel encounters like the protagonist of a horror film, listening for scrabbling feet and clutching my sword all white-knuckled
I can hear them, they're out there...
I'm finally powered up enough to juggernaut in there without getting wrecked but it's still not instinctive yet
kinda just rushing into rooms praying for rng to bless me
Weird.. I got the Well versed achievement but I still don't have Hypnos' final heart
50
oh
TD1 is still very easy imo
Try to pause when making door decisions, and try to not circle the room for extra doors after the fight (survey rooms while you’re fighting)
Sorry I mean TD1, 9min per biome
plus it adds more time each biome
TD3, is gonna take some practice still, but still, not as hard as everyone thinks of it
TD3 can be more stressful than anything
i feel like u can feel like ur going too slow when ur actually not
I find myself never turning off TD3 anymore except when running bow, where I lower it to TD2
I’m bad with bows
i cant even run TD because it interferes with a freeroom
Asphodel is usually where you’ll save up the most time
It’s fine if your Tartarus time aren’t good, because Asphodel, and to an extent, Styx, saves more time than you think
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/826796295204372492/866941619491438602/unknown.png
Shows how i've improved.
6K Darkness save is also 2 clears
Feels very nice to see that you’re actually improving, right? All that hard work, does means something
Hiya all, rather random question but do we know if the xbox version will support remote play? I know some games (a very popular tetris game) for some unknown reasons doesn't support it.
Exactly!
Well versed is about fully unlocking the Olympians codex entries, nothing to do with hearts or the other sections
oooh. thanks
Over 1k.
Question: is there a reason the fishing achievement doesn't require fishing in chaos?
It occured to me that zag might very well be like 5 foot 2. He claims to be the same height as Theseus, and according to google the average height for a man in ancient Greece was about 5 foot 2. 1.6 meters btw.
I have no real point to this, I just thought it was amusing
AYYY! got my third clear, and didnt even get carried by hunting blades this time
Also 2 heat
AAAY nice work
posted the victory screen in #h1-victory-boasting
For future note: regardless of if zag or Theseus have a Canon height, 5'2 zag is my new personal headcanon
fishing in chaos is even more up to chance than regular fishing. It’s a 7% chance to see a fishing spot there and it has to be 5 chambers at least since the last fishing spot, and seeing a chaos gate is also up to chance
Do you get higher darkness rewards for bosses if you have Extreme Measures on
No.
He singer is the voice of zag
The voice actor is certainly very talented
ye
Darren Korb and Ashley Barrett, respectively
anybody got tips for guan yu?
two legendaries in one run??
i legit cant even escape tartarus with it
upgrade it to lv5
it has a very good and safe to use special
if you attack go in with dash strikes
look out for spin hammers and charged skewer
Vicious cycle is so good it feels like cheating
Well you need some additional rift duration, else it is balanced
Well that is a strong rift
Tracking the enemies with censecutiv stacking damage
Try get some additional rift duration as well
alright so rn in its current state its literally unplayable
Which boons give that
if the centaur hearts didnt get reduced then maybe
you can play level 1 guan yu, its just a challenge. i personally won with it twice
you have to be extremely careful
The name i dont know neither of the boon nor the god, but uts the killing boi god of war, that red one
ares
Y
Ok will look out for the buff
Should i try to ''borrow'' from charon with this build
eh, no, thats uneccessary risk
Yeah its better you think about that for yourself
lv1 gy works its just hard yeah
now you just have to sell one of the legendary boons for the achievement
aw
#h1-victory-boasting for the victory screen, that was my best run ever
I love how when I call meg in lernies last phase she just finishes him off with one swipe
Does Calisthenics Program affect bosses
Yes
Hades has gotten me to make a dnd campaign out of it
Any Aspects of Stygius that are very good?
Nope
ok!
Hidden Sword is the easiest to have success with.
Anything other than zag
Hidden aspect is the easiest to do high heat
Yeah it's amazing at 32 and terrible for 40+.
Is it bcs how slow it is? Cus like for 32 u can just not use td3
Yeah.
Ah FO
TD isn't a problem.
Unless you run DC on top.
But anyway, I doubt that was the context of the original question.
Nemesis has very high DPS but can leave you very vulnerable if your build isn't coming together to kill everything before they can kill you.
is there a list where i can see what all these abbreviations mean and what they do lol
the pins at #h1-high-heat-strategies
thanks!
Yeah I did my 32 heat run following what nyaanyaa told me but used FO1 instead of TD3
The pact is a decent starting point, yeah.
Yay finished the game for good this time 
I mean I can still keep going but theresnt much left for me
Did you get everything from the House Contractor and the Resource Director yet?

Well no I just finished the epilogue
Which for me is the wrap up of the story. Also romanced all who can be romanced because I value that too
There's still gonna be new dialogue here and there and unlocks, but yeah, the epilogue really wraps up everything nicely.
Congratulations!

thanks
What aspect should i invest in
What weapon are you using?
Zag Fists are very cheap to max out and a lot of fun.
The secret aspect of the sword is my favourite
Demeter Aspect will give you better DPS than Zag Fists even with just 1-2 levels, though.
Talos aspect was decent I remember. Pulling enemies close which is fun
What does it do
Zag Shield is probably the most melee of the shields.
shall look into that
Alot. It changes the sword completely into a different moveset and other abilities
Single target cast aspects aren't really great castspects tbh
All secret aspects do
Slower hits, more defence
Also I just like ||Arthur||
Poseidon is a Cast aspect, not really short range melee too much. The sword kit just supplements your damage here and there.
It will be a lot better on aspect of achilles
Talos can be played as Attack/Cast hybrid or pure Attack build with a nice pull that gives you crowd control.
If you main Hunting Blades, then play Achilles.
ok!
Aspect of Poseidon is good for casts that lodge, those being Zeus, Athena, Artemis, Aphrodite and poseidon
Achilles gives +150% Cast damage at Lv.5.
Aspect of Achilles is good with all casts to be quite honest
Fated Persuasion will help with finding the right boons for the Duo and finding the Duo itself, right?
Persuasion is generally way better than authority, you can force gods in with keepsakes
There's an argument for Authority giving you more consistency with getting any specific Duo Boon. Persuasion lets you reroll poms, Master Chaos boons, Lord Hermes boons, Wells of Charon, and Pools of Purging.
I always forget I have it anyway xD
Which all ends up being more valuable than getting that one Duo Boon.
And you can reroll boons with high Duo/Legendary chance (like from keepsake + Refreshing Nectar) multiple times for multiple chances at finding the Duo you need.
Persuasion also makes keys more useful
Because adding 1 to 4 is better than adding 1 to 8
like 99% of time the first boon in Asphodel is from Hermes. why is that?
God i love the attention to detail in this game, like if you enter the Asterius & Theseus fight with the Yarn of Ariadne you get a few extra voicelines.
also ayy
game making sure you got 2 hermes boons, so if you didnt pick one in tartarus, it makes one appear at the start or soon ig
Why does it want me to have two hermes boons though
Like the boons are good but i'd rather have the artemis or ares boon
i love how zag calls them lernie now
easy choice
deadly reversal for the prophecy
Apparently Lernie refuses to take feedback from Hades. A sign of a poor employee
No wonder they're never the featured house servant
I care more about winning rn
deadly reversal for the prophecy
Almost every single time i get the satyr sack on the second room
nice
nice
Wow, achilles is good
yeah
Probs my favorite weapon now
it is my favorite weapon
Whats the use of charm? Like normal enemies die so fast they cant hurt their allies and there is only 1 Boss fight which is not solo
for bossess all I noticed is it aphrodite's call doing alot of damage
I cant believe I mistook those two. Im going to get myself smited
well the call does also charm
Hi SuperGiant! is it possibile to have an update with a total play-time of the game? i will probably change my Switch to the OLED version, and the playtime count will reset, and i hate this things, i would like to see a total play-time in game if is possibile with a future update, please make it true 🙂
beep
Kinda random but for how popular and fun this game is there doesn’t seem to be many content creators on YouTube/twitch
most of hades content creators stream on twitch
and only use youtubes to upload their vods so they can submit a run
Most content creators I know play hades mostly off stream bc it doesn’t get many views
Sadly
the hades streamers are definitely of the smaller variety except maybe haelian and vorime
Probably just because it’s a rougelike
Rougelikes aren’t very fun to watch lots of the time tbh, and they ain’t even my type of game to play tho hades is different for me idk why tho
Yeah I’m just pretty new and having issues on good builds for all weapons
just asking
should be fun
if u need a hera or achilles build come to me ill hook u up homie
Athena and Achilles is my favorite
Last night I learned (spoilers) ||that you can be in relationships with Thanatos and now I’m gonna grind until I have a bf from hell||
My 'endgame' relationship is the polyam one because few games let you have that without it being a joke, and also... Ancient Greek Gods xDD
Honestly ye
This is one of the only games I’ve played where you have freedom in sexuality like that… while it being a Rougelike is crazy. Like it’s not even a big focus yet it makes all of the difference
i might be weird, but i find polygamous relationships very offputting
yesss, i love this
i always focus my nectar on him, orpheus and eurydice
i think most monogamous people agree with you, at least in relationships irl. when it comes to fiction i think most people don't mind
I like interesting poly relationships, which you don't see very often.
In the game i dont mind it, its greek mythology and zag is a god, what do you expect, but irl its weird imo
A lot of the time it's just 'let's be horny', and there's no thought into how it would function.
I find it confusing, but lots of people like that so I’m happy with people being happy
I’d that makes sense
I'm aroace, so monogamy and polygamy are both 'weird to me'. I do think that it's entirely possible to love different people at the same time. And the Greek Gods were rather known for that, amongst other things.
i don't think there's nothing wrong with that either but i understand where youre coming from
We should prolly change from this sexuality debate tho
Understandable, but most of the times i see it IRL it's mostly based on .. yknow
I’m new to this server tho I can imagine this isn’t the usual for supergiant games discord
There's nothing wrong with it, but when it's just wish-fulfilment fantasy stuff... it gets dull when that's the only variant of it you see.
oh yeah absolutely
mine is 3 lmao, i have 6 clears rn
7 but it’s just been going up every run
I found one build that I’m just insane with
Hunting blades is my main
mine is 8, but i skipped a few heats to get the skelly prize
i stay on 6 to 9 depending on how fast the weapon im playing is
i'm a very balanced player, i like playing with which weapon it is thats giving more darkness and i have an even-ish amount of escapes across the board
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||arthur blade, Hermès to increase attack and move speed, Demeter to slow down enemies to increase your dps compared to them, and Athena to take deflect shots that get stuck in your special|| tho lots of those are flexible
And I always use the butterfly first chamber
Ambrosia I believe
I got the statues and then just switched to a new playthrough as regards heat.
u dont keep butterfly if u switch it at any point of the run
muck is the bombadil of this server, he has very high skills and appears when we least expect
what
Ye, but I usually take tons of damage in asphodel so it makes no difference to me
do you know who bombadil is
Beating Thanatos after giving him 6 Nectar will randomly prompt a discussion between the two about Zagreus being powerful enough to escape the Underworld without Thanatos' help. Once Zagreus proves his strength to Thanatos, Thanatos can be given Ambrosia the next time he is encountered in the House of Hades.
relevant: #h1-story-discussion message
50
Ok!
hehehehe
There are others on here that have beaten higher
true, yall are pretty impressive
i will beat 50 heat one day
Think I might start speed running once I beat max heat
good luck with that
that sounds like i'd take a lot of time
i'm a completionist so i kind of want to buy all the furniture and max all of the weapons and max my affection with everyone
and get all of the achievements
Max heat is pretty much impossible unseeded
Same
the last in-game achievement is 32
Beating 50 heat sounds hard
btw, can you get the butterfly achievement by playing in low/no heat right?
Yes
But beating 50 heat on every variation of every weapon doesn’t even sound fun anymore that’s just painful
yep lol
Well ima go on a bike talk to y’all later
high heat is the main reason i still play hades
Yo I heard a Zeus build with Demeter fists is pretty good
Anyone know the details of it
i love the spear in elysium because flamewheels dont damage me anymore
Zeus fists is Nuts
so it seems impossible to speak with the Devs right?
yep
Pretty much
Sea storm as well I guess
get a basic Artemis boon for support fire
Not really, it requires you to take another Poseidon core
Pressure points and hunters mark is also really good, and deadly flourish
So like Artemis special
bye :D
that sounds really op yeah
Ok so Poseidon dash Zeus attack and other boons like jolted and then some Artemis as well
yeah it's basically
- Zeus attack with lightning buffs
- Support fire
- profit
aight
Also hyper sprint + rush delivery
eris?
That’s Hermes right
yeah
ZAP fists @thorn marsh
but w h y
They asked if Zeus attack was good on demeter
So it’s Zeus/Poseidon/Artemis/Hermes ideally
alternatively get an aphrodite core and Zeus aid and get Smouldering Air
and its such much more of a highroll
only two weapons actually use ME to peak potential
whats me again?
Shield and Demeter
ZAP fists is my anyheat PB
fists and sword
Ah
shield doesnt use ME
Also how do you get legendary boons consistently
practice good rng
Hahaha
But it's in no way consistent
hades isnt a consistent game
make offering to rngesus
gods legacy + following the requirements usually does it for me
and check the boons you need for the legendary you want in the boon list
and get some rerolls
Right their like duos
exactly
but? you mean and???
freezing vortex is terrible
It means you can't get hunting blades
