#h1-discussion

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royal thistle
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I own splatoon

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it exists

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pokemon quest and splatoon have similiar hours

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cause I played pokemon quest at like 3 am

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anyways hades

chrome wharf
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petition for the underworld "dad" mug to be official merch

crude surge
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when you find epic strong drink but your in Ely

royal thistle
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if $30 yeah maybe

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if $20 100%

chrome wharf
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Mmmmm

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strong drink can still be welcome in styx if bad rng

royal thistle
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me getting stronk drink in styx with ap 2 instead of getting my boons replaced by dio 😎

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LETS GOO

sudden jay
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i just got obliterated by the bull and the other guy

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i hardly got the bull to half when i died

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any tips?

crude surge
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focus the bull first

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hes pretty heavily telegraphed so if you learn the tells you should be able to dodge most of their moves

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Try to not get Theseus under half before you take the bull down. You wont want both of them around when Theseus is at half

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if theres a pink reticle on you that means Theseus is about to throw the spear

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you can hide behind the pillars for the spear and when asterius charges make him ram into the wall or a pillar

modern garnet
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learn your favorite cue for the spear throw and you'll feel it within your soul

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you'll know he's throwing the spear before he does

wet dawn
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Well, you have the pink reticle, and then when it becomes a deeper pink he's like a second away from throwing

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Samething with the longbow guys in elysium

modern garnet
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i go for the audio cue personally

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dodge spear throw with eyes closed 😎

wet dawn
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I never even noticed an audio cue specifically with the spear throw

modern garnet
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there's a beeping that gets faster and faster

wet dawn
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I just thought Theseus smack talking at random intervals

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I see

chrome wharf
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Asterius attacks like long grunt - swing - swing

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So you attack while he's charging up, get out when he swings, then get back in afterwards

golden turtle
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Omg

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PoseiDemeter cast is situantinally worse than Posei cast lol

wet dawn
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I dunno, I kinda like the trailing vortexes. Worst thing about it is just that it no longer sticks into enemies

modern garnet
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It deals soo much damage if you aim it right

stoic flame
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i have come to realise

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gilga fists arent actually that good

crude surge
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Gilga bad

stoic flame
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i thought they were good but nw i dont like them

crude surge
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High risk low reward

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Clunky

stoic flame
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attack si slow af

crude surge
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Just bad

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Bad bad bad

narrow hemlock
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dont worry gilg fists, i'll still love you when everyone else doesnt

modern garnet
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Gilg fists are fun

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I like to play em

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They're bad but I'm good so it balances out

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BD

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(Also I'm still farming bounties)

oak ibex
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Me wearing the Gilgamesh fist: You know, like, nya

modern garnet
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No other weapon makes zag a catboy

narrow hemlock
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i always felt like the design of gilg was meant to be like... a beast. more akin to a bear.

golden turtle
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Wait why is gilgapaws bad?

oak ibex
modern garnet
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The effect just isn't great compared to other effects

hollow hawk
# golden turtle Wait why is gilgapaws bad?

The dashes are really short compared to normal ones, the dash strike deals like no damage so the two bonuses of the aspect clash (you are given more dashes, but your dash strike sucks)

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and the main standing attack is really slow

novel wasp
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who said bad things about my e girl gilgamesh cat fists

novel karma
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when did we all look at the aspect of gilgamesh and go ‘yeah those are cat paws now’

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it’s great, but an interesting development

novel wasp
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gilgamesh being an e girl on twitch dot tv is written as a mythos now

novel karma
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gilgamesh, the god-king, first of the e-girls

novel wasp
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thank you for 5 dollars donation

novel karma
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the game said these are super tough and cool bear paws, but we said ‘no they’re cat paws now’, and gilgamesh being an e-girl just makes it better

dark vector
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no more aspect of gilgamesh, now called aspect of murder mittens

novel karma
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gauntlets in general are murder mittens though

dark vector
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i thought they were primarily armor?

novel karma
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the ones in hades are all murder mittens

dark vector
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aah

novel karma
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aspect of gilgamesh < aspect of catgirls

dark vector
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zag: you know like...nya
meg: what?
zag, with the cat paw gauntlets: nya

forest ruin
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AYO KING VERMIN CAME OUTTA NOWHERE AND DRAINED HALF MY DDS WTF

brisk trail
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So tiny, yet so vicious.

forest ruin
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ikr

crude surge
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Tiny vermin squirtmeh

dark vector
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the first encounter with king vermin is so funny

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just
"haha so small"
"the screams of a angry rat"
"OH GODS"

brisk trail
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My pipe dream addition would have been specific lines from the summons when used against Tiny Vermin. ||Than finds it cute.||

limpid quartz
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Guys
If Achilles is he greatest of the Greeks, then is Cerberus the goodest of the bois?

distant tangle
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goodests with an s

novel karma
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cerberus is the greatest of the bois because he’s three times the good boy any other dog will ever be

prisma rivet
novel karma
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pov the god of the dead gets beaten into the ground with these

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it would be hilarious to win with them

modern garnet
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au where asterius gives zag these to complete his outfit

quartz hearth
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Aspect of Hello Kitty

stoic flame
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accessories for zag in game when

novel karma
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please that would be be so good

glass bane
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What do boon tiers mean

distant tangle
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is there a way that i can experiment with builds without having to rely on rng

stoic flame
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use keepsakes

distant tangle
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i mean yeah but is there a way i can play the sandbox mode

robust scaffold
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not that i know of

stoic flame
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what is sandbox mode

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idek

hollow kettle
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God Zagreus and Thanatos are like two of my favorite characters to write fic dialogue for ever

torn kraken
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I just got lifesteal from a Daedalus hammer, this seems op, didnt think an upgrade like this existed

hollow kettle
cedar heart
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Hello everyone, I cannot open the codex. It is assigned to the C key, but when I press it, a red x sign appears on me. What should I do? It doesn't work even if I clear the dungeons

green maple
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Then youre not supposed to open it yet?

rapid creek
torn kraken
rapid creek
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ah

torn kraken
rapid creek
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i mean

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its not rly worth it cuz if you think abt it its only good if you have too much max hp or if your atk spd is crazy high

torn kraken
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I had a hermes atk speed boost, but it wasnt really that high

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10% i think

tired peak
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it’s way better on trash than bosses since it heals per hit not per attack

rapid creek
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fair enuf

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btw is there no channel for fanart(?)

stoic flame
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#fan-works

robust scaffold
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its bad

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since it doesnt work on dash strikes iirc

stoic flame
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it doesnt?

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okay yeah it doesnt

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i think cursed slash with flurry slash would be good

craggy barn
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does anyone have an image of eurydice's chamber in asphodel?

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specifically the area around the staircase

distant tangle
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what boon/upgrade should i take with rama bow?

stoic flame
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dio on special and any attack %age boon prefferably aphro works great

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and if u get the duo

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u can get extra hangover stacks

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for the hammers triple shot works really well

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and with that u can get the one makes the close range damage 150%

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other good hammers include relentless volley and double shot

dapper belfry
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which weapon is the best?

torn kraken
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all have their purpose imo, i havent found a weapon ive done bad with yet

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personally I just run whichever has the darkness buff at the time i enter

stoic flame
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same

dapper belfry
stoic flame
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but i like using the rail

dapper belfry
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my favorite is eternal spear

torn kraken
stoic flame
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fists used to be my favourites but i played them a bit too much

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so i barely play them now

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lol

dapper belfry
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how to beat boss 3

torn kraken
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git gud

dapper belfry
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i only got to it once and it was so hard

torn kraken
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im joking lol but youll get it eventually, died like 10x before i got through boss 3

dapper belfry
stoic flame
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focus on aterius first

dapper belfry
stoic flame
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focus harder

dapper belfry
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35% health left i think

dapper belfry
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in spear it have +%18 damage,range,speed

river vigil
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the one you like the most ig, the first weapon i did was the nemesis aspect on stygius

wise wren
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If you're having trouble, try focusing on one weapon first instead of switching every run

stoic flame
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i just leveled up zag sword first because of that skelly quest

river vigil
dapper belfry
dusky wedge
# dapper belfry how to beat boss 3

General fast tips for boss 3: use the pillars to stop Theseus spear throw or asterius chase, watch out for asterius jump attack, and don’t stay in one place for too long, especially during both the heroes 2nd phase

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Also, kill asterius first before triggering theseus second phase

dusky wedge
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If you don’t get hit, you don’t lose life. If you don’t lose life, you don’t die

bold arch
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Is there any information avaible in terms of planned new content in future updates? As in: is there any announcement for such a thing or plans or something?

dusky wedge
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Nothing more is planned for now, don’t think we’ll see any more new content for the game, but I would love if proven wrong

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But yeah, game’s probably finished now

craggy tundra
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I got a...stonewhal my first time fishing

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Is that good

stuck coyote
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i... think? i forget?

stoic flame
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i havent even seen this fish so it must be good

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because i dont get good stuff 😎

craggy tundra
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I think it said perfect catch

stoic flame
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swag

tawdry gazelle
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Hey, if I take Artemis keepsake for Tartarus, then don't change it and keep it on next hell area, is it working again or is it now useless ?

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Thanks

chrome wharf
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The rarity boost still works but it won't guarantee the next boon you see be hers

buoyant valley
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if i take a god keepsake and take a different gods boon first, does the effect wear off or will that god continue to take priority

robust scaffold
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continues

void vigil
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as long as theres a small "1" under the keepsake its still working

slow snow
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what is the hades monthly challenge?

void vigil
slow snow
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how do I get the role for it

robust scaffold
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#bot-commands

slow snow
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Is there a place to make suggestions

signal aspen
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uhh here i guess

brisk trail
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Hi all, Im new to Hades

signal aspen
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hello

high island
high island
slow snow
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I just want more achievements man.

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they're all too easy to get

robust scaffold
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the achivements are meant to be easy

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u can increase the heat if u want a challenge lol

slow snow
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I mean the irony in saying ACHIEVEMENTS are meant to be easy

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is kind of an oxy moronic

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its fine to have some easy ones

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but like

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they're all easy

robust scaffold
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well thats what the devs intended

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its not an oxymoron, they do still require effort to grind them lol

unborn remnant
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Zagreus

signal aspen
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zag

brisk trail
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they arent easy for everyone

robust scaffold
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yea, but most of them are meant to be easy

oak ibex
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Not to mention that the game devs have mentioned that they tweaked the game's genre so it could be accessible. Honestly, I think it might be one of the many reasons why it got so much acclaim: it appeals to a wide skillset of gamers

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I myself am a very casual gamer who actually doesn't like games focused heavily on achievements. What drew me to Hades specifically was its story and how they told it (in fact, I plan on taking a class in my uni that talks about video games narratives as a form of literature, AND I have a writing mentor who specializes in writing for games and interactive fiction). I grew to love the achievement aspect later, and a lot of it was due to the fact the achievements were accessible for me.

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And of course, "easy" is a subjective term, and arguably, so are achievements. What may be an achievement to one person may not be to another. To me, the beauty of Hades is that it appeals to so many people because it is welcoming of all kinds of gamers.

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Lmao apologize for the essay

modern garnet
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There's really difficult challenges in this game, you just don't have to do them for 100% cheevos

manic bobcat
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glaring at you Isaac and your 600+ achievements

chrome wharf
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I read cheevos as cheetos

signal aspen
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nice

manic bobcat
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What is cheevos

stoic flame
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cheetos

robust scaffold
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should be able to get them as u progress the story

modern garnet
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still trying to get bad call :(

signal aspen
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i got that on my second day playing hades

void vigil
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i got bad call a day after achievements were released but i was really really trying for all achievements

manic bobcat
high island
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I still don't have Bad Call lol. But I did the requirements for it back in Early Access.

manic bobcat
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The last achievement

formal portal
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Hey all I’ve got two questions about late-game. First, || the slashed benefits achievement. What pacts do I need to use in order to face the relevant enemies? || Second, || I’m still yet to activate the epilogue. I’m around 70 hours in, have about 40-50 clears, and I’ve nearly maxed out all my relationships. In particular, what gods do I need to max out? ||

modern garnet
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||slashed benefits is benefits package||

cerulean ferry
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|| Any Olympian God works. Just gotta max out 6 of them (Demeter until the lock counts as well) ||

modern garnet
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||do you have queen's plan in your fated list yet||

tropic vapor
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i finally beat hades

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took me like 4 tries to beat him

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i did it with the rail gun and lots of poseidon boons lol

cerulean ferry
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Congrats!!

stoic flame
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em3 is insane

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this is wacky

modern garnet
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he drive around in he little car

tired peak
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idk i kinda feel it’s easier than the normal fight

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maybe i’m doing the normal fight wrong 🤔

modern garnet
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I think the bull gets harder and the spearman gets easier

tired peak
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yeah that sounds about right

indigo lintel
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does anyone know if there's a way of making an already existing save hell mode

tired peak
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the easy part becomes slightly harder and the annoying AF part becomes less annoying

modern garnet
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took me a while to learn to dodge the bull's new shockwaves

limpid quartz
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I can’t even get past EM2 lmao

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The lava kills me

modern garnet
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I don't think there's any legitimate way to hell mode your file, but there's probably somethin out there

limpid quartz
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Actually wait no it’s magma

modern garnet
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I beat EM2 pretty consistently but i wouldn't be able to tell you how i do it

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I just hang around on that island with the exit boat on it

indigo lintel
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Its easiest with attacks that have aoe

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because the heads are quite close

limpid quartz
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Oh yeah
So like the rail special?

indigo lintel
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yeah

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or zeus attack

stoic flame
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asphodel is the hardest biome

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the magma

limpid quartz
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Honestly yeah the magma sucks

tired peak
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don’t run heightened security =p

stoic flame
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death and suffering

indigo lintel
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I'd be more fine with it if it wasn't affecte by heightened security

stoic flame
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if i run heightened security i will never make it past asphodel

limpid quartz
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At the same time, Asphodel is super good for Poseidon boons because you can knock back the enemies into the magma

tired peak
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tbf when i did i would mostly die to styx traps <.<

stoic flame
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styx traps are fine

indigo lintel
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yeah because you can't tell exactly where the traps will go off except from memory

stoic flame
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also i feel like the regular encounters are harder than the boss encounters in styx tunnels

indigo lintel
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they are

tired peak
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eh idk

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enemy wise i just hate the venom stuff

indigo lintel
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because its less focused

tired peak
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spitters for the venom itself and rats for the area denial

stoic flame
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there is just so much stuff scattered around the whole football stadium sized level and those vermin peeing their poison

indigo lintel
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im fine with any of them except for that tiny goddam vermin

stoic flame
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its just slow

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tiny vermin is annoying af

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keeps tping

modern garnet
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im gonna change my text message sound to the satyr spitting sound

tired peak
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related question, is there a resource for hades sound bites?

narrow hemlock
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what are you looking for exactly

tired peak
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voiceover bits for ringtones and stuff

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personal use, obviously :)

surreal viper
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what's EM?

narrow hemlock
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Extreme measures

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@tired peak if you dm me any specific lines you're looking for i can dig those up for you later when i get home

signal aspen
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yeah thats extreme measure

modern garnet
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stronger than a spear

tired peak
cosmic stone
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"Why was my sister named rose?"
"Because you're mum loved roses."
"Thank you Dad."
"You're welcome Athena Dash."

obtuse lark
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you're welcome tidal dash level 17.

signal aspen
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"Because you are mum loved roses"

manic bobcat
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Lmao

manic bobcat
modern garnet
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heroic level 6 double strike <3

manic bobcat
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Let's gooo

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What's double strike though

modern garnet
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lightning has a chance to strike twice

manic bobcat
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Right

modern garnet
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a very high chance, with high double strike

tropic stratus
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Does anyone know if the PS5 version will have hdr

novel karma
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quick question, i noticed there's a hades monthly challenge, what's that about?

crude surge
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just something to do for fun

void vigil
novel karma
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ooh ok!

crisp fractal
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what are good weapons for zeus and artemis builds?

distant tangle
crisp fractal
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is aspect of chiron good for every build lmao

distant tangle
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the gun with pretty much any aspect should work with zeus

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sorta

crisp fractal
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what about spear, what God's are good for that

distant tangle
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uh i dont use the spear much sp i dont rlly know

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but artemis works on everything so

crisp fractal
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ok thank you!

manic bobcat
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otherwise yeah artemis can go well with any spear, really

crisp fractal
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I tried a dyonisus build with chiron today but I didn't really like it

warm charm
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_ _

crisp fractal
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I like the more aggressive builds like zeus where I can constantly deal damage

warm charm
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zeus is good with the aspect of lucifer

crisp fractal
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that's gun isn't it?

warm charm
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yea

crisp fractal
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I don't have it unlocked yet

warm charm
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give it a try

crisp fractal
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on the topic of unlocking aspects, i talked to asterius with the fists and he said something about height bare handed, does that count towards unlocking gilgamesh?

warm charm
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does it have italic text?

crisp fractal
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no

warm charm
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because the italic text means that zagreus would have to say it to the weapon

crisp fractal
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he hasn't given me the phrase yet but the guide says that he must comment on the fists

manic bobcat
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i think there's the waking phrase, and then there is the comment

manic bobcat
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maybe you are close

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i vaguely remember he mentioning the fists twice, don't quote me on that though

warm charm
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aspect of gilgamesh is kind of hard to use

manic bobcat
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it is. im just not sure what to build on it

crisp fractal
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I don't use fists much i main the shield and and sword i just want all the aspects

manic bobcat
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it doesn't have the attack speed of other fists to take advantage of zeus

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i guess merciful end still works well

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especially in combination with the special

warm charm
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for the sword, nemesis aspect is very good

manic bobcat
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yeah, nemesis is definitely very consistent

warm charm
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artemis has the greatest boons

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_ _

sick ridge
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Is the combo you want to do with nemesis special dash attack dash attack

obtuse lark
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yes.

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that's the combo for all swords.

high island
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All of these combos are good.

sick ridge
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I watched a video and thought I saw someone do two dash strikes off a single dash, is this a thing?

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Or do you need to dash then attack button then dash then attack button

high island
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Nah, that's Dash-Strike into the first Attack of the normal Attack combo. You can't do two Dash-Strikes in one dash.

sick ridge
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Ah ok thanks

high island
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You can actually press Dash and Attack at the same time for a Dash-Strike.

manic bobcat
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Depends on how you think about it, isn't Double Edge just 2 dash strikes in one dash?

high island
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No. It's one Dash-Strike that hits twice.

manic bobcat
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sounds like tomato tomato to me xD

high island
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Two Dash-Strikes would mean there are two separate hitboxes for each individual strike, but it's just one hitbox that hits twice when it makes contact.

manic bobcat
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yeah. i'm half joking

narrow hemlock
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fox joking? gasps, you would never do that

crude surge
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so out of character

digital python
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i was trying to do an all poseidon run because ive never really use poseidon and yet somehow i went the entire run w/o getting splash dash, which was the point of the run

manic bobcat
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maybe the splash dash was the friends you made along the way

sick ridge
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Would you guys advice against trading ambrosia for blood

brisk trail
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you need both its your call

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youre gonna get more than enough of either of them at some point

manic bobcat
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i think you are done with ambrosia sooner than you do blood

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so trading 5-6 ambrosia for blood is a sweet spot for me

limpid quartz
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If you wanna unlock all the aspects then Titan Blood

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If you wanna get better relationships, Ambrosia

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Plus ambrosia unlocks storylines (I think). It definitely unlocks Companions though

stable glen
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Hey guys, if I'm doing a run with the nemesis sword, would the artemis attack be really good?

signal aspen
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Yeah

high island
high island
inner lava
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Is there a way to up the brightness for Hades extreme measures?

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I can beat him, but I have to strain my eyes every time and it gets annoying.

signal aspen
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You can turn the brightness to max when he gets into his third phase or something idk

crude surge
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He is an unseen one

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Hades is John Cena confirmed 😳

onyx skiff
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lmao thanatos when I leave no-one for him to kill 😐

bleak bobcat
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god why does chaos doesnt want to about the hidden shield aspect

onyx skiff
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what

steady sigil
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hades es lo mejor del planeta

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ayuda

craggy tundra
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Gosh, it's so frustrating

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I can reliably get to Hades

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But can I ever beat him?

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No.

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I've done it once and I think that was sheer luck

tired peak
craggy tundra
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It's irksome :P

stoic flame
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which move are you struggling with

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there is a method to avoid every move

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the main thing i do is just stand behind him

limpid quartz
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Thesus has a few attacks similar to the Final Boss’s so you can use Thesus as like practice

stoic flame
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yeah like that spin

elfin sable
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yes

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just beat hades, escaped 10 times

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the ending is really good

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is there anymore to do in the game?

stoic flame
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get the epilogue

crude surge
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heat

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speedruning

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relationships

sudden jay
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okay im torn rn

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spiked collar

elfin sable
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how do you get the feast ending?

sudden jay
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or lucky tooth

elfin sable
sudden jay
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spoiler tag spoiler tag

elfin sable
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ok

sudden jay
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tytyty

elfin sable
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my bad

sudden jay
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its ok

elfin sable
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🙂

sudden jay
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it legit says all spoilers welcome but no one responds in hades for new players so i decided to ask this chat

elfin sable
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lol ok

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are you struggling with any ||bosses||?

prisma rivet
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Depends on the situation, IMO

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If you're thinking about what's better for fighting a boss, I prefer Skelly's Tooth @sudden jay

craggy tundra
stoic flame
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sad

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in the first phase the main moves are the thrust and the spin

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the thrust is pretty straight forward

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just dash our of the way

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the spin might be a little hard to dodge but there is a trick

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you need to dash behind him because when he spins he goes forward

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hyper sprint is a good boon to help with dodging the spin

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the slow wave is probably the easiest to avoid

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when its coming to you just dash into it

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in the second phase he gets this combo of swing-swing-spin

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again the trick is just to stay behind him

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then he does 2 types of laser attacks

craggy tundra
#

I always get killed by those terrible green vases

#

But thank you so much for the help

stoic flame
craggy tundra
#

Oooh on

stoic flame
#

the vases give me a bit of trouble too

#

but its just positioning

craggy tundra
#

I used to be on the punishment of extra damage from traps so they always one shot me

#

I am now in a different punishment

stoic flame
#

what heat are you playing rn

craggy tundra
#

I can fight the 3 furies easily enough

#

1

stoic flame
#

yeah em1 is fine

craggy tundra
#

I've only beaten hades once

stoic flame
#

but i recommend the timer heat

#

its free 3 heat

#

the timer is pretty generous

craggy tundra
#

Is it?

stoic flame
#

you can easily clear stuff in 9 mins and even 7 mins

#

5 mins is a little steep but i guess you just get better overtime

limpid quartz
#

I’ve heard EM2 is good (but I’ve never beaten EM2)

narrow hemlock
#

em2 is just playing the floor is lava: the game

stoic flame
#

half my hp is consumed by the lava in em2 shadedisgruntled

hollow hawk
#

Just dont step in the lava

simple blaze
#

no way you have to avoid the lava

robust scaffold
#

u can dash

stoic flame
#

to end up on the lava

modern garnet
#

always save a dash for getting out of lava

chrome wharf
#

Until the heads also spit lava

distant tangle
#

this game do be kinda addictive

oak ibex
#

I feel ya: I just recently finished my hundredth escape attempt and I was like "oop-"

distant tangle
#

usually i would just finish the story and call it quits

#

but this game is uhh different

oak ibex
#

I feel ya. This is I think the only game so far that I originally approached for the story but stayed for the addictive gameplay.

novel karma
#

i love the little quips zagreus has specifically for em2, such as ‘who even needs a neck anyways?’ when the main head decides it wants to fly

#

because zag buddy i hate to break it to you, but you need a neck

tepid plover
#

Does he? Dusa and lernie manage just fine

dark vector
#

lernie has a neck tho

tepid plover
#

For a while

dark vector
#

speaking of learnie, do you think he has like....legs. or is he a snake entirely

brisk trail
#

Hydra had a body, right?

#

It's not the Orochi, right?

chrome wharf
#

According to his (?) Wikipedia entry, some folk draw a snake with many heads, some like a dinosaur

dark vector
#

i like the idea of dionsaur lernie

tepid plover
#

A bit off topic and on topic, here's one of my fav scenes in Disney movies

errant bay
#

Just offering that in the original Greek language, Lernie is gendered as female although I'm sure monsters don't necessarily prescribe to our binaries

errant bay
tepid plover
#

Yes the hydra is often depicted as female

dusky wedge
#

I’m running Poseidon sword right now and I got Phalanx shot in the first room Tartarus, and Exit Wounds in the room next after that

#

Gee, that’s all I’ve wanted lmao

rapid creek
#

guys does the cosmic egg increase my chances of chaos gates

#

(?)

high island
#

No.

glass bane
#

It just removes penalty for entering it

high island
#

It also gives the greatest rarity bonus out of any god keepsake.

rapid creek
#

but are his buffs that good

high island
#

You can check the Well between biomes for a Light of Ixion before equipping it.

rapid creek
#

nice name btw

high island
#

Master Chaos's pronouns are they/them.

#

Thanks.

rapid creek
high island
#

Chaos boons can be pretty amazing, especially since you can stack them.

#

Like a Nemesis build with Deadly Strike, Hunter Dash, and 3x ~75% Dash-Strike damage from Master Chaos.

#

Things like that.

#

Cast builds really want +1 ammo or bonus Cast damage from Master Chaos.

#

Although in the case of +1 ammo, that is unaffected by rarity. It's +1 at common and still +1 at epic.

rapid creek
#

ooo

#

alright alright

patent dew
#

hello

#

what do you guys think about the gun?

#

im not sure what it's called

#

exagryph

#

imo it feels pretty weak and it would be way better if it fired in burst shots

#

that's all i wanted to say

#

i'm out

stoic flame
#

its my favourite weapon currently

#

once u unlock eris it gets mad damage

high island
#

Exagryph leads speedrun leaderboards and is up there with the best on high heat leaderboards, so... I dunno about weak.

tired peak
#

i’m malding

#

died to the timer on heat 16 final boss, the dot went through 2 dd and eventually killed me :)

#

with ~2k left on the boss

#

and i had to go through all but 1 styx room T.T

high island
#

The only damage over time that's also overtime damage.

#

More importantly, look at what you can do to speed things up in your run.

stoic flame
#

keep using the special while u reload

tired peak
#

mostly better rng =p

#

i didn’t have a dash nor cast really

high island
#

It's not RNG. It's very possible to do 16 Heat TD3 with time to spare 100% of the time.

#

Good RNG can make that easier, but you can still try to look at what you can do differently to speed things up.

tired peak
#

i did say mostly

#

biggest other thing is getting power shots right

high island
#

What bow are you using?

tired peak
#

rama that time

high island
#

You don't need a Cast then. Cast on Rama is just for Boiling Blood, really.

#

What's the build you're going for?

tired peak
#

whatever comes up, just having fun

#

artemis attack

#

i like big crits and i cannot lie

robust scaffold
high island
#

Try getting Hangover, Doom, or Lightning on your Special, then.

stoic flame
#

hangover on rama special is very fun

#

just instant 5 stacks

tired peak
high island
#

Settle? courte5AphroHeart zfiestAngry zfiestAngry zfiestAngry zfiestAngry zfiestAngry zfiestAngry

tired peak
#

yup

stoic flame
#

lol

#

ig you can go for the duo then

#

its pretty good

high island
#

You are talking to the high priestess of the Temple of Aphrodite. courte5AphroHeart zfiestAngry

craggy barn
#

do you ever do 110 damage with passion dash

#

(hyper delivery + lv. 2 purple dash kek)

high island
#

Passion Dash is great. courte5AphroHeart courte5DusaBond

stoic flame
#

it feels like a waste

#

u can have aphro on literally anything else and it will be better than the dash

craggy barn
#

oh no

#

you dare spurn the anger of high priestess nyaanya mewmew

tired peak
craggy barn
#

besides passion dash is actually good

stoic flame
#

aphro stuff is pretty good on everything but the dash

craggy barn
#

i wouldn't exactly have it on special or cast

#

the dash is mostly there to proc heart rend

stoic flame
#

im not a big fan of weak but the damage %age is good

craggy barn
#

which mind you, is very strong

stoic flame
#

ah

#

heart rend is good

high island
#

You're not a big fan of 30% damage reduction? thanthink

tired peak
#

i was like “why is my special so small⁈” – “oh yeah it’s lucifer not eris”

stoic flame
#

no 🗿

#

only when gilga

craggy barn
#

i am a very big fan of damage reduction

stoic flame
#

weak with gilga is good

craggy barn
#

mostly in high heat but it's welcome in speedrunning

tired peak
#

tbf i like playing arthur and stacking mitigation

#

it’s hilarious

craggy barn
#

god mode without god mode

high island
#

30% damage reduction is effectively +42% HP, you know. thanthink

tired peak
#

don’t need hp if you don’t get hit!

stoic flame
#

ez

#

but i get hit

#

lmao

high island
#

Good luck with that at 52 Heat.

craggy barn
#

"weak seems meh, i'll just try to dodge" gets beaten to death

high island
#

Weak is the best status curse in the game.

stoic flame
#

im not saying weak is bad but then you can have damage debuffs like hangover and doom

high island
#

But.

craggy barn
high island
#

Her boons do high damage and apply Weak.

#

You don't have to choose. You get both.

stoic flame
#

yeah the damage is pretty good

#

best in the game i think

tired peak
#

well highest +%

#

not necessarily best =p

craggy barn
#

heartbreak flourish charged skewer guan yu my beloved

robust scaffold
#

i dont really understand how the ares aphro duo boon works tbh

stoic flame
#

thats why i like aphro boons but i feel like you can have any other dash and have aphro on attack or special

robust scaffold
#

it still deals normal dmg if u manually reapply it right

stoic flame
#

and it would be better

robust scaffold
#

and it only deals less if its not manually reapplied?

tired peak
#

had it on rama with doom special / weak attack, was funny

robust scaffold
#

thats really bad isnt it

craggy barn
#

aphro isn't necessarily the definitive best choice in some cases

robust scaffold
#

halving it each time resulting in low dmg

stoic flame
#

i thought it makes doom stack

high island
stoic flame
#

like every consecutive hit it stacks for half the last hit damage

craggy barn
#

i feel deadly strike is better for zag shield because the crits are very strong, on top of it already dealing high base damage

high island
#

Curse of Longing is really good. The only problem is Merciful End is broken.

stoic flame
#

ME is so good

#

i tried it for the first time on fists last night i think

craggy barn
#

then i can get passion dash because it reliably applies weak without me having to think about it

stoic flame
#

mad damgage

robust scaffold
#

so it deals normal dmg if reapplied then thats good

craggy barn
#

if weak had more than a 3-second duration i'd certainly consider taking something else over dash but i don't wanna have to try to get empty inside just to make anything else work

tired peak
#

i’m empty inside anyway

high island
#

Passion Dash pom scaling is so good, too. It gets close to Tidal Dash damage quickly, just that it lacks knockback for wall-slam damage and the t2 boons he has. But early in the run, it's actually very comparable.

river vigil
#

Dash attacks counts as dash right? So if i have an athena dash with me dash attacks should proc it rite?

stoic flame
#

no they dont

river vigil
#

I see

stoic flame
#

dash attacks count as attack

craggy barn
river vigil
#

So athena on attack and ares on special then for ME? Ive beeb wanting to try a doom build for a while

craggy barn
#

passion dash kind of has limited usability imo though, it certainly works best with very close-up weapons like fists

river vigil
#

Or just so dash deflect

robust scaffold
#

i thought dash attack worked for ME

river vigil
#

Cus that should work wonders

high island
#

Yeah, but the AOE makes not much of a difference in Tartarus.

river vigil
#

Ehm i mean lemme try that then

brisk trail
#

dash effects do proc when you dash strike yes

high island
#

Yes, Dash-Strike works for ME. Your hitbox applies Doom, your Deflect box triggers ME.

river vigil
#

Ah ok thanks

high island
#

But you need to actually hit with both.

craggy barn
#

landing both shouldn't be a big issue because divine dash's hitbox is massive

stoic flame
#

the attack doesnt proc it but the dash

#

or am i just wrong

robust scaffold
#

the dash procs it yes

stoic flame
#

when u dash strke with athena dash ur attack reflects stuff?

robust scaffold
#

ur attack wont reflect unless u hv athena attack

#

thats how it works right

tired peak
#

… i need a break. lost 2 dd on furies and almost got timered

robust scaffold
#

antos helps a lot with first boss xd

craggy barn
#

they absolutely do not interact

tired peak
craggy barn
#

at least not directly but you get what i mean

robust scaffold
#

i mean im kinda confused by what u said lol

#

so when dash striking with athena attack does ur attack deflect

high island
#

No.

craggy barn
#

nope

robust scaffold
#

huh thats weird

#

is that only for athena

high island
#

Dash-Strikes get the same effect from Dash boons around Zagreus that empty dashes get, and the hitbox at the tip of your sword or whatever gets all the effects from your Attack boon.

tired peak
#

hey i finally remembered to switch back to infernal soul, only like 15 runs after i got the hermes legendary i needed <.<

high island
#

The only Dash boon that has no effect around Zagreus but instead affects the hitbox is Hunter Dash.

robust scaffold
#

that still means athena attack will deflect, but only at the tip of the weapon?

#

i assume for bow everything still deflects as per usual

high island
#

Divine Strike will make the hitbox deflect attacks, yeah.

#

Divine Dash will have that deflect effect around Zagreus.

robust scaffold
#

okay thanks for clearing things up lol

high island
#

There is also Mistral Dash.

#

This one is different.

#

It does nothing at all ever. squirtooh

craggy barn
#

it applies a little bit of chill and does like 10 damage

#

and 10 damage is comparable to divine dash

tired peak
#

i once had to settle for mistral dash, but i got the decay boon

#

did some decent damage to daddy

high island
#

Killing Freeze is great.

#

Mistral Dash is "m about to fight dad, and I don't have a dash yet for some reason, so I might as well, oh nevermind, there's Snow Burst, I'll take that tyvm."

gray dust
#

The communities around this game are so goddarn talented and creative

unborn remnant
#

plus the top players are crazy good

loud scaffold
#

Does 1920 x 1200 resolution have black bars on the top and bottom for anyone else?

vapid narwhal
#

game is locked to 16:9

worthy galleon
#

I don't have that resoulution but i guess it's because you should use 1920X1080

loud scaffold
#

1920x1080 looks a little stretched.

vapid narwhal
#

does not support other aspect ratio due to how the artstyle and how the assets are created

#

it will be letterboxed 16:9 with blackbars on a 16:10 screen

loud scaffold
#

Alright, I heard about how ultra wide wasn't supported, but 1920x1080 1920x1200 is not ultrawide. So I guess instead my aspect ratio just isn't supported.

vapid narwhal
#

it's 16:9 only

robust scaffold
#

isnt 1920x1080 16:9

vapid narwhal
#

yes, Hades is 16:9 only

#

on a 1920x1200 screen it will be letterboxed

robust scaffold
#

i assume he typoed that last msg hm

loud scaffold
#

Yeah.

worthy galleon
#

Ever play the game and go "It's fine i don't have any death defince left, ill just restock with my mate Patroclus

river vigil
#

proceeds to not find partroclus

worthy galleon
#

That's what we call a pro gamer luck rule

#

I find him like every other run

#

The odds are against it

#

But still happens

#

Now i just hope for more fishing spots on earth

#

I wonder if it would ever make sense having Hades DLC with new boons, but i guess the balancing would be a nightmare

gray dust
#

I require more prophesies

gray dust
#

What time is it?

river vigil
#

help i shouldnt have waited to unlock the locked aspects ||cus achilles keeps rambling about other things and not giving me guan yu|| (idk if this counts as a spoiler so just in case)

#

looks like i gotta speedrun death

brisk trail
#

Epic Youtuber

#

10/10

manic bobcat
#

Promotions don't go here bro

stoic flame
#

^

manic bobcat
#

Also that link looks sus af.

#

I'm telling. @void vigil

signal aspen
#

bruh

brisk trail
#

i'll delete it

stoic flame
#

lmao

void vigil
ruby sparrow
#

is there a way to view replays of old runs in-game at all?

unborn remnant
#

no

manic bobcat
#

There are records of what boons, hammers, setup that you used, but no replay.

ruby sparrow
#

ah dope

calm pelican
#

if i choose a chaos room instead of a daudalus' hammer room, will i get that hammer at a later point?

#

or do i lose it

void vigil
#

you will usually see the hammer again

#

you get two hammers in a run

calm pelican
#

max?

#

or min

void vigil
#

max

#

you can get a max of 3 if you get the anvil in the styx shop

calm pelican
#

is it possible to get the same hammer upgrade from the anvil?

void vigil
#

you cant get the same hammer upgrade twice

calm pelican
modern garnet
#

if you have less than 2 hammers when you enter styx, the anvil is instead another hammer

calm pelican
#

wow

modern garnet
#

my gut says that the game is pushier about giving you max hammers than it is at giving you max hermes, but that might just be superstition

calm pelican
#

whats with aspect of guans yu's special?

#

is it more powerful?

modern garnet
#

it's a little bit like having exploding launcher by default

#

it is stronger than regular special, and it doesn't come back

#

the projectile feels like it has a wider hitbox?

calm pelican
#

yeah

stoic flame
#

Guan yu 💀 💀

modern garnet
#

qy good

silent tusk
#

hi i love hades

modern garnet
#

youve come to the right place

glass bane
#

I have 5 diamonds

#

what should I spend it on

#

I spent 3 already getting the Rod of Fishing and the Deluxe Contractor desk

modern garnet
#

what are your options

#

you could get the one where keys give you rerolls

#

you probably don't have many rerolls yet, right?

glass bane
#

what is a reroll

#

Music Stand
Administrative Office
Darker Thirst
Gemstones, Brilliant
Nectar, Vintage
Chthonic Keys, Fated
Darkness, Pitch Black
Vanquisher's Keep
Lyre

modern garnet
#

im not sure which of those is strongest

#

the one I'm recommending is the keys one

crude surge
#

keys are really good

oak ibex
#

This is a thread of Zagreus trying to understand the concept of mortal funerals: enjoy

high island
chrome wharf
#

this is the worst party ever

oak ibex
obtuse lark
#

what should i do to fulfill "the queen's plan" prophecy? i already did it but i forgot.

unreal loom
#

Well

#

You gotta make a good relationship with all of the gods of Olympus

#

Basically give them nectar

obtuse lark
#

well i already did it.

#

do i need to make bonds?

modern garnet
#

Yeah you also gotta give em ambrosia

#

Except for demeter she doesn't need ambrosia for queens plan

obtuse lark
#

oof.

stoic flame
#

you need to make atleast 6 bonds with olympians

obtuse lark
#

i have 5.

#

thanks!

shadow kernel
#

What’s the best special boon to use with aspect of Chiron?

stoic flame
#

artemis

crude surge
#

arty, dio, or sea storm

forest ruin
#

What do themes do?

#

From the contractor

stoic flame
#

aesthetic

signal aspen
#

it makes your victory screen look cool

crude surge
#

just charnge the look of the victory screen

signal aspen
#

it also makes your side bar and heat/mirror things look cool

stoic flame
#

okay which one looks the coolest

#

i can afford the sonorous one

#

does it look good?

signal aspen
#

idk which one that is

stoic flame
#

the one with the

#

uhh

#

idk what that instrument is called

#

its like a piece of leather on a disc

signal aspen
#

like a piece of leather from minecraft and a music disk also from minecraft?

stoic flame
#

tambourine

#

yes

signal aspen
#

oh

#

uh

#

idk

#

forgot what that looks like

stoic flame
#

shame

crude surge
#

that post has it

signal aspen
#

that one bad

#

buy chaos one

unborn remnant
#

Zagreus

crude surge
#

I like the forest one

stoic flame
#

im broke af

#

i cant afford chaos

signal aspen
#

git gud

stoic flame
#

i dont have enough darkness even to upgrade my mirror

signal aspen
#

git gud

stoic flame
#

that looks fine tho

#

imma buy that

#

its like 15 ambrosia

crude surge
#

I still need the darkness and gems ones

shadow kernel
#

Well better than other ones

stoic flame
#

crits, good damage, nice damage %age and knockback so u can play safer

shadow kernel
#

What does bouldy’s ambiguity bonus mean?

stoic flame
#

moral support

shadow kernel
#

Does it not actually do anything?

stoic flame
#

nope

#

maybe it does

#

its

#

a m b i g u o u s

shadow kernel
#

Lmao

limpid quartz
#

Bouldy boon is the greatest boon

fallow mountain
#

Am I allowed here for making it to hades?

stoic flame
#

ur always allowed here

void vigil
#

everyone is allowed in this channel :) just be aware that it contains all spoilers

karmic hare
#

I forgot how amazing shield is low level

fallow mountain
#

I was so close to beating Hades first attempt

stoic flame
#

shied is good at any level i reckon

signal aspen
#

What is a shied

karmic hare
#

A special weapon that can only be unlocked by true turtles

signal aspen
#

Oh cool

fallow mountain
#

I’m a “in your face” kinda guy, I love speed

karmic hare
#

First attempt runs amaze me

quick kestrel
#

\o/ got my signed copy of Hades artwork!

karmic hare
#

Cool I didn't know you could get that

quick kestrel
#

It was on the Supergiant store.

#

And it came with a little Zagreus crown to wear, which was adorable of them.

high island
quick kestrel
#

Yup, that poster.

#

I splurged and got the signed copy to go with my Pyre signed copy.

karmic hare
#

Might get one too to add some flavor to my walls

#

Currently they have posters from when I was four and then some of my and my friends art

quaint wind
#

i have the signed pyre copy too, totally worth the cost

quick kestrel
#

Mmhmm. That’s hanging up above my coffee. But I think I need to move it so it can alongside this.

white mountain
#

I forget does Hades wear pants

chrome wharf
#

Yes

#

They're more like tights

fallow mountain
#

what legendary aspect should i go for first, i like the spear and the fists

karmic hare
#

not fists

high island
#

We were just earlier talking in #h1-builds-and-combat about how the hidden fists are very clearly the worst aspect.

#

Perfectly viable, but also the worst.

#

But they can still be a lot of fun to play if you're not pushing for high heat or speedruns.

karmic hare
#

but i was saying not fist because it plays too different to other fists and if you like fists its not too similar almost a different weapon entirely

#

also not relivant but nyaanyaa Mewmew i thought you were a dev for the longest time and i don't know why

signal aspen
#

Nice

narrow hemlock
#

devs have red names thinkingeyes

karmic hare
#

i know

#

i just have a very special way of thinking that removes brain cells from the process

narrow hemlock
#

we're all juggling a single brain cell around here

karmic hare
#

definitely one of the most knoledgeable people on the server though so thats my excuse

#

and i have just learned that you are a moderator

brisk trail
#

Okay, who's Aang and who's Sokka?

karmic hare
#

avatar and boomer.ang guy

high island
karmic hare
#

when i noticed that 1. your name was not red and 2. why would the devs have loads of knowledge about the game

high island
#

When was that? 10 minutes ago?

karmic hare
#

maybe

high island
#

lolol

obtuse lark
#

i also thought you were a dev.

#

but i have a better explanation - i'm colorblind.

karmic hare
#

also your name is yellow for all the games which i dont see often so that also made you seem like a dev

high island
#

Colorblind hmm but what about me made you think that?

#

This is very surprising but curious.

obtuse lark
#

well i often just read the chat without actually talking here.
probably just your game knowledge and the way you talk.

#

by "the way you talk" i mean grammar.

karmic hare
#

yes i agree but why we thought devs would have good grammer i do not know

signal aspen
#

So if I become a dev I get good grammar?

#

Nice

onyx skiff
#

cc like move-speed reduction dont work on bossess right?

karmic hare
#

i dont count because im a sidekick

signal aspen
onyx skiff
#

ah

obtuse lark
#

i was a dev of some game and because of that i got good grammar.
i still can't get rid of dots in my messages.

onyx skiff
#

Damn.

#

I do believe the power of developers is so strong that even proximity to their dots in messages gives people superior grammar, and often times more developed prose.

untold tendon
#

Any news about Hades on GOG???

#

All the other games are on the store and I have them on my collection but there is no news about Hades

#

Can a developer answer this question directly?

granite ether
untold tendon
chilly stump
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We have no news on other platforms or consoles other than what is listed in #hades-faq but thank you for your interest!

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How did you choose which one of us to ping? For science. 👓 📝

high island
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m glad I wasn't pinged here, apparently some people think m a dev. zaglol

abstract lark
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I got the gun

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In hades

high island
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Drop your weapon!

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🔫 dusa

abstract lark
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I'm so ready to use it

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I don't even care if it doesn't get me more darkness

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I like that they just straight up said, ya know what? GUN

crude surge
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gun indeed

unborn remnant
crude surge
limpid quartz
signal aspen
narrow hemlock
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lets ease off the emote spam :)

mint coral
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defeated by em4 hades bc of a pot, perfect

prisma rivet
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Awww, dang

crude surge
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pots hurt

timber magnet
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im gonna stay up until i beat hades 9 more times

craggy tundra
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....Does Zag just

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jump out his bedroom window to leave

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Because it's been like 50 runs and I think I just figured that out

timber magnet
craggy tundra
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I'm impressed

sick ridge
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How do I unlock court music? I’ve done Orpheus’ favour but it still says more renovations needed

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This man has his muse back but he still never plays music

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Also can someone explain what summons are

prisma rivet
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After you get to a certain heart amount with an NPC, they'll gift you one

novel karma
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summons count as a ‘legendary’ keepsake, there’s five of them in the game and they’re given to you after you give them their first bottle of ambrosia (once you can’t give them any more nectar)

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the characters in the game that give you a summon/legendary keepsake are: thanatos, megaera, dusa, skelly, achilles, and sisyphus

crude surge
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they don't take a keepsakes slot though

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weird that the wiki refers to them like that

novel karma
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they have their own keepsake slot at the all the way bottom of the keepsake cabinet

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where the slots have a lock on them

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the golden paneled ones

stable glen
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yo gamerss

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where does everyone get those cool victory screens?

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House contractor?

high island
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Yeah.

prisma rivet
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Huh, I never knew

high island
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End game cosmetics.

modern garnet
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Gotta unlock everything else first

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Everything in the first page

prisma rivet
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Oh, in "general"?

stoic flame
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work orders

prisma rivet
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Haha, that one. Drew a blank on the actual name

craggy tundra
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....can you romance dusa

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because

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if so I think I did accidentally

stoic flame
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it's so heckin wierd

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I have all the hearts with dusa but no bond

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I have no idea how that works

stable glen
high island
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I dunno. When they added them, I already had more or less everything else. dusa

stoic flame
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they do count iirc

stable glen
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ah thanks

prisma rivet
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I have no idea tho

stoic flame
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yeah you can only forge as many bonds as there are possible characters to fond bonds with

robust scaffold
stoic flame
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istg i do

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im checking rn

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yeah i do

robust scaffold
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haha

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how many hearts is that

stoic flame
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i have 3 hearts after the arrow

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so i think thats all of them

narrow hemlock
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theres additional dialogue with dusa after filling all hearts before the bond actually forges

robust scaffold
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oh lol

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didnt know that

narrow hemlock
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you're probably just at the mercy of dialogue rng

stoic flame
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i just get that generic dialogue every time

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adsaihdahsd

robust scaffold
stoic flame
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yes

prisma rivet
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Hahahaha, I'm to that point with Achilles

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Just waiting for the RNG to grant me his bond 🥺

stoic flame
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you need to give nectar to patroclus as well for achilles bond

steep elm
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what would y'all say is harder, between EM4 and 32 heat (without EM4, ofc)?

novel karma
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i think 32 heat is harder, because em4 by itself is just the bosses, 32 heat affects literally everything

steep elm
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fair enough

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anyway, guess who just beat em4 hades

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i know it doesn't mean too much around here but my heart was PUMPING by the end

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got it on my second try, but just barely

robust scaffold
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congrats lol

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always nice to beat upgraded hades since hes much tougher than usual

steep elm
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yep
think i'm gonna keep this thing on permanently while i work my way up to 32 heat
20 is my highest so far

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i'm just scared of doing it with forced overtime

chrome wharf
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cranked heat up to 32 from 8 for funsies, lost all 3 DDs in Tartarus, died to a bomb in Asphodel, and when I got back dad straight-up Laughed at me with his whole body using that voice clip that plays for giving up, shook his head, and said something about reviewing my performance later

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what a ride

manic bobcat
chrome wharf
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tiltingly hilarious

brisk trail
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Any time I have a salty death I take the lounge entrance so I don't have to listen to Dad laugh at me.

chrome wharf
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sadly im a dad simp so I wade through the pain hoping for amusing dialogue

brisk trail
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this game is pog

chrome wharf
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ye

crude surge
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also on 32 heat Stuborn Defience is what you want to use

chrome wharf
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considering I used 2 DDs in 1 room I think the limiting factor right now is gudness

brisk trail
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just be glad you didn't attempt Charon

chrome wharf
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oh I did that the first time it was offered

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did not end well

brisk trail
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ok so which god offers the best boon?

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and which god has the best boons

limpid quartz
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yo I just got Eris Rail at level 1

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And it seems super nice with the right hammers

brisk trail
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Yeah, Cluster Rockets Eris holds the current speedrun WR.

limpid quartz
brisk trail
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Depending on who you ask, Ares probably offers the single strongest (Duo) boons in the game, Aphrodite is generally regarded as having the strongest kit.

limpid quartz
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Part of the fun of Hades is experimenting with builds, and usually people don’t get the same builds

brisk trail
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has there been a major update last time i played there wasnt this much stuff?