h1-discussion

[winter pollen]

and I assume heat is just a pretty much "endless" highscore type thing?

[half zephyr]

it's a way to get boss drops again

to upgrade weapons & such

it's also just fun

[winter pollen]

gotcha

[stoic flame]

whats special about an ereberus gate

feels like another regular level

[half zephyr]

better rewards

[modern garnet]

way better rewards

[stoic flame]

hmm

[half zephyr]

if you see a centaur heart you'll get +50 instead of +25 as an example

[stoic flame]

i see

[half zephyr]

ofc, you'll have to complete the challenge

[stoic flame]

thats just regular

[modern garnet]

it's like fighting a miniboss but minibosses are usually always boons and erebus gates can have all sorts of stuff

[stoic flame]

?

[half zephyr]

if you fail you get nothing

[stoic flame]

i fought regular enemies

[half zephyr]

well, almost nothing

you get

[modern garnet]

if you take damage in erebus you lose the reward

[cerulean ferry]

|| onion ||

[half zephyr]

ye, get hit once & it's no reward

[stoic flame]

oh thats why the achievement is called hold the onions

[half zephyr]

mhmm

you need to get the onion though, if you want to get all codex entries

[stoic flame]

ah

i will

i have faith in myself

🗿

[buoyant valley]

I have never been able to enter an erebus gate

low heat bby need crutches

[stoic flame]

i just turned the heat up to check it out

but i didnt find any differences so i asked

[winter pollen]

I can finally skip tissiphone dialogue 🥳 it was all worth it

[stoic flame]

._.

wdym you can finally skip it

[buoyant valley]

can you not just mash

[stoic flame]

^

[winter pollen]

I mean u can mash

but u had to sit through the "murr" "murrrrderr"

voicelines

now it just plops u into the fight

[stoic flame]

ah

[buoyant valley]

How difficult would you say a fresh file 1st run victory of hades would be

[signal aspen]

Its as hard as 32 heat depending on your pact

[buoyant valley]

damn

[crude surge]

really?

[signal aspen]

Yeah

[buoyant valley]

I was thinking because in dead cells a fresh file 1st run victory isn’t hard at all, it’s mostly down to basic strategy. But because hades has so many permanent upgrades I can see how it would be very difficult

[half zephyr]

it is possible, but you need good rng

great rng

[crude surge]

One dash on a melee wepon just sounds like pain

[half zephyr]

I use that

but I also use ruthless so it's not the same

[crude surge]

but for why

[half zephyr]

cuz of the dodge?

[signal aspen]

Just use the second dash to dodge

[buoyant valley]

funni zag fists

[half zephyr]

max zag fist + max plume + ruthless

[crude surge]

whenever I see ruthless on something that isn't gilg part of my soul just dies

[signal aspen]

Same

[half zephyr]

screen becomes nothing but near miss & dodged

plus I wanted to try it out & I was already used to having 1 dash on baby file

[crude surge]

Same with Abyssal

-the gilg part

[half zephyr]

I also discovered that I get a lot more near-miss then dodge after I swapped to ruthless

as pop ups

very fun

[buoyant valley]

this is offtopic but is spear hidden aspect any good. I’ve unlocked it but I’ve never tried it out

[half zephyr]

it depends on your heat

[signal aspen]

Yeah it's good

[half zephyr]

the lower your heat the more likely you are to claim it's bad

[crude surge]

You need it to be max level

[half zephyr]

the higher your heat the more likely you are to enjoy it

and think it's good

at least that's what I've observed so far

[prisma birch]

hi!

[stoic flame]

hello

[robust hound]

what's the reward of the 8heat thing?

that statue

i don't get it

[uncut dagger]

||it's a statue of Skelly getting out of the bathtub||

[robust hound]

yea but

what does it do?

[buoyant valley]

nothing

[uncut dagger]

a b s o l u t e l y n o t h i n g

[robust hound]

[buoyant valley]

What did you expect

[robust hound]

idk

[uncut dagger]

I was expecting a thing we could do where we can choose any Boon/Daedalus Hammer and experiment with cool builds

[robust hound]

i really don't know LOL

i don't even have the bottom things on the trinkets

the keepsakes

[half zephyr]

I mean it does something

it fulfills the prophecy

[naive belfry]

It makes the courtyard even more beautiful 😌

[half zephyr]

and that

2nd statue is best statue

I don't care what zag says about it

[robust hound]

ah yea

[vernal mulch]

i just thought of a weird twist

[uncut dagger]

well that's highly subjective

[vernal mulch]

||imagine the game had that dating sim thing where you actually build familial bonds with the gods as well as getting their boons||

that’s really weird right? and shoulda stayed in my head?

[half zephyr]

uhm

you don't wanna bond with your relatives?

[winter pollen]

thats why you bring in the OC

[half zephyr]

I formed my first bond with Hades

it's the cheapest one

[manic bobcat]

[half zephyr]

[manic bobcat]

isn't hades bond super late in the game though?

[half zephyr]

you only have to get credits

then give nectar

so, beat game 10 times & give hades 5 nectar

boom - bond done

[manic bobcat]

huh guess so

[half zephyr]

and bonus - you get nectar back

[manic bobcat]

you can?

[half zephyr]

it's non optional

he just hands them back

[manic bobcat]

I don't remember that tbh

[half zephyr]

you don't have a choice

[half zephyr]

[manic bobcat]

also I started playing in EA when the ending wasn't there so Hades and Persephone bonds felt like they took forever for me.

[half zephyr]

another oldie spotted

[manic bobcat]

respect your elders, kid

[uncut dagger]

is that from a Humongous Entertainment game

[half zephyr]

[uncut dagger]

you've never heard of Humongous Entertainment?

[vernal mulch]

so ||Asterius and Theseus. who to focus on first?||

[signal aspen]

Bull man

[manic bobcat]

Asterius

[vernal mulch]

dope

[naive belfry]

||theseus will go into a phase that makes the fight harder if u take him on first ||

[manic bobcat]

Though 32 and below I just target whoever is closer to maximize damage

Gotta outrun that timer

[vernal mulch]

i’ve 300 hp

[signal aspen]

That's 300 hit points

[manic bobcat]

You can probably facetank everything on HL0 with 300 HP tbh

[signal aspen]

Except for boiling blood

[sacred tendon]

I ||summoned Meg|| during the Asterius 1v1 and she said "So much for a fair fight" and now I feel baaaaaad

[manic bobcat]

Lul

[signal aspen]

Poor bullman

[manic bobcat]

I mean tbf the weight discrepancy is on Asterius

He must be 5 times Zag lol

also Zag is short compared to most character in the game lol

[signal aspen]

Short one

[manic bobcat]

He is short xD

[half zephyr]

nope

[vernal mulch]

WOOOO ||beat the two of em first try!||

[half zephyr]

you don't have to keep using the spoiler tag in here

all spoilers welcome in this channel

[half zephyr]

also congrats

[manic bobcat]

Actual pro gamer

[vernal mulch]

oh whoops

[manic bobcat]

This is a spoiler free fire zone

Let it rip

[vernal mulch]

i mean i did go through a bunch of spoilers to put myself here but i thought it was a thing

[half zephyr]

it's a thing in the new player chat

there you have to use spoiler tags for certain things

[vernal mulch]

ohhhhh

[manic bobcat]

This is the 4head advice channel

[signal aspen]

Nice

[half zephyr]

in this channel though it's not required

[manic bobcat]

Enjoy your stay

[half zephyr]

[signal aspen]

Yup

[half zephyr]

what does 4head even mean

[vernal mulch]

well then

[signal aspen]

Forehead

Duh

[half zephyr]

but is it really that straighforward?

[vernal mulch]

lol

on to the styx, for my first time

[signal aspen]

Uh yeah

[manic bobcat]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/802615525141643265/853053096267218944/Screenshot_20210611-192802.jpg

[half zephyr]

aah, twitch

I don't do twitch

[signal aspen]

Twitch make funni word

[manic bobcat]

I remember when Hades first launched

It was so popular

Good times

[vernal mulch]

any tips for the hades fight?

[manic bobcat]

which part do you have problem with?

[vernal mulch]

i just walked into it, thought i’d ask about it

[signal aspen]

Watch out for a white circle around hades because that means he is going to do a spin attack, learn the animation for boiling blood so you won't get hit by it as much, if you get hit by boiling blood run away, focus the enemies he spawns when he goes invisible

And practice dodging with your dash

[manic bobcat]

if this is your first time, just try to see the moves I guess. I would be surprised if you first try him. but learning more of his move sets should be reasonable

[sacred tendon]

watch out, the white circle around him is NOT exactly where there will be a hitbox

[manic bobcat]

or you can just youtube a fight to see the moves and how to dodge if you don't mind spoilers

[sacred tendon]

since he always steps towards you during the spin

[vernal mulch]

i be on youtube atm lol

[signal aspen]

Yeah he moves around when he spins

[half zephyr]

don't get hit, don't die & don't stand still too long

[vernal mulch]

[half zephyr]

@manic bobcat it was 24!

[signal aspen]

Good advice

[mossy lily]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/519031754259038209/853060507853389844/SharkSip.png

[limpid quartz]

oh

[manic bobcat]

yeah

[lunar orchid]

what does boiling blood mean exactly?

[unreal atlas]

Enemies have 100% crit chance on you for a while, but don't quote me on that

[oak ibex]

Oh god, my dumb self thought you meant the idiom lmao

[hollow hawk]

Its a debuff that makes the enemy take +50% more damage from your attack/special

[lunar orchid]

take?

[stiff musk]

there are two types of boiling bloods

[stiff musk]

this is yours from the mirror

[flat vapor]

do you mean the mirror perk or the status effect

[stiff musk]

this is dad's when he shoves the skull balls up yours

[lunar orchid]

those skullballs suck lol

[stiff musk]

they do

esp when theyre up yours

[lunar orchid]

i always dash from there explosion and end up get hit twice

[stiff musk]

dash into the radius

[robust scaffold]

i thought it was 100% extra dmg not 100% crit chance

[lunar orchid]

i do but sometimes im an idiot

[stiff musk]

so you i-frame across the ring

[lunar orchid]

and dash out to get hit once and then dash again out to get hit again

[somber halo]

it is damage, not crit. chance IIRC

[stiff musk]

idk how the em ones work because ive only done that fight twice and ive always destroyed them

[chrome wharf]

my life in a nutshell

[lunar orchid]

lol

i love the poisiden aspect

with hella exit wounds and cast

mrrrdderrrr

[oak ibex]

-Tisiphone quote of the day

[lunar orchid]

oh man

and the duel cast and quick cast

ths bout to get crazay

oh wow

[solid owl]

so is hades finished now? are they gonna continue making a new game or maybe release dlcs for hades?

[oak fox]

5 Achievements Left and I have the 100%

[lunar orchid]

go faster

i guess its done idk

i asked the same thying

[oak fox]

Im half sure its finished yeah

[vernal mulch]

is there a place for memes? specifically a meme about the game

[brisk trail]

As long as it's PG, #fan-works

[vernal mulch]

it be pg

[manic bobcat]

the short answer is we don't know.
the game is finished. but no dlc has been announced (doesn't mean that there will or won't be one, just that we don't know).

[narrow hemlock]

dlc isn't off the table but as things currently stand it seems unlikely

ultimately they have not announced anything and stated it was too early to say what they would do

[manic bobcat]

Yeah and the game is less than a year old

I think DLC, if there is one, would be further off into the future

[modern garnet]

Why arthur sword so good

[crude surge]

Big number sword!

[modern garnet]

It swings really good and big number comes out

Mitigate the disadvantage by putting chill on the attack... then play the game in slow mo

[crude surge]

Arty attack with heart rend for big number!

[modern garnet]

(I only put chill on the attack because I needed winter harvest for the fated list)

Yeah number can get biiiig

[crude surge]

I got 4,874 once

[modern garnet]

bet that felt real good

[crude surge]

very

[haughty scarab]

so i beat hades once, along with trying to complete runs with every weapon what should my next goal be? gaining favor? trying to get a lot of purple shards?

[modern garnet]

you've just unlocked the pact of punishment

[haughty scarab]

basically

[modern garnet]

as far as story progression goes, every time you beat hades you get more story and at some point you'll reach credits

[haughty scarab]

ok

but as far as making future runs easier, what should i be focusing my efforts on

what do you get for gaining max favor with gods?

[modern garnet]

reaching max favor with a certain number of gods is a condition to activate the epilogue sequence

but that's much later

using heat, you'll be able to get a lot more blood

which will upgrade your weapons and all that

list progression will also give you more blood

[chrome wharf]

• titan blood, so you can buff weapons
• darkness for skill upgrades
• nectar for certain NPCs to unlock the last row in the keepsake cabinet

From what I glean, Than and Meg are the best and Sisyphus is... Decent?

[haughty scarab]

word, i think im only missing 2 keepsakes

the ones from the random encounters

[modern garnet]

nah we're talking about companions

[chrome wharf]

yeah the bottom row with heart shaped locks mb

It takes.... 6? 7? Nectar to unlock them but don't sweat that one too much. Bump the heat up bit by bit to get bounties (or by a lot if you're feeling adventurous)

[bright comet]

oh wow aspect of chaos is gameplay train

very fun

[unreal atlas]

Not my personal favourite but very good

I prefer dem personally

[torpid axle]

is explosive shot worth it?

[bright comet]

for spear?

[torpid axle]

bow

[brisk trail]

yeah

unless its rama then it gets really slow

[torpid axle]

WOW

I just annihilated asterius

270 darkness from defeating the duo :o

i'll take that alright

alright

This is the strongest I've ever reached hades

if I don't beat him now I never will

@manic bobcat alright you got me

hades isn't tanky when the game gives you absolutely broken boons

[bright comet]

does empowering flight empower bull rush

[half zephyr]

idk, I never use bull rush

[bright comet]

same for 100 hrs until recently

[half zephyr]

no, I used to use it when I was new to the game cuz I tried out everything

but it was so annoying to have to stand still

so I stopped

not worth it to me

[torpid axle]

damn so maxing out every aspect takes liek 250 titan blood

this might take a while

well actually

[half zephyr]

you don't need that many

[torpid axle]

I only need to clear every heat up to 30 with all 8 weapons

not too bad

[bright comet]

ive been running like crazy melee

but now i love stuff like chaos and hera

[half zephyr]

you stop getting rewards after heat 20

and there's 6 weapons

[torpid axle]

wait rewards stop after 20?

:I

[half zephyr]

yes

[torpid axle]

aight cool then

even better

[half zephyr]

you'll get enough blood

you get 2 blood pr heat + shop if you they sell & you can afford

and then you have prophecy rewards & broker trade

easy

plus fishing

[torpid axle]

Guess I'll try for 100%

though I don't think the game will be fun for that long

[half zephyr]

up to you how long the game will be fun for

I start new files

and experiment with heat

plus roguelite & roguelike is a genre you can always return to

I do that with Isaac all the time

[torpid axle]

ye but this game doesn't really have a "main campaign" to grind through

just kill hades once and boom it's replay time

[half zephyr]

why would it need that

it's a roguelite

that's how you play the game

it's the same w games like Isaac - you do the same thing over & over

it's part of the fun

[torpid axle]

ye ye it doesn't need it I'm just saying compared to something like EtG where you have.....8 or 9 i think? endings to get

before it's just mindless grinding for 100%

even Isaac has like 20 endings

[half zephyr]

you have all the extra death msgs

you can collect those

[bright comet]

well the game actually has "main campaign" which goes on each time you kill hades

[half zephyr]

and the epilogue

[torpid axle]

you get what I mean

there's not purpose to replay other than for fun is what I mean

no*

[half zephyr]

getting max bonds with everyone

[bright comet]

after ur done with the story, sure

[half zephyr]

seeing all dialogue

[torpid axle]

fates, bonds, heat on all weapons

is what I can go for

[bright comet]

but even then coming back is really good, weapon aspects open up so much stuff

[half zephyr]

Hades is easiest bond

just get credits & give 5 nectar

woo suddenly you have the resource sink

[torpid axle]

you get something for every bond you max right?

or just certain chars

[half zephyr]

nope

you get a small icon on their keepsake if you have the bond

but only 6 (7 if you count Hades) characters give something extra

[bright comet]

chtonic companions but i cant recall if its just unlocking heart or maxing

[half zephyr]

it's 1 ambrosia

so not even getting the bond really

but they give you something extra

[torpid axle]

we'll see we'll see

[half zephyr]

the bond is just to show you've maxed hearts

[bright comet]

sometimes maxing someone is a prereq for maxing someone else

[half zephyr]

ye aphro

[torpid axle]

I guess a rouglite discord is the best place to ask

has anyone else played Lost Castle?

[half zephyr]

if it's not aboot hades ask in #video-games

[torpid axle]

ah aight

[half zephyr]

also answer is no, never heard of it

now for something completely different - I must get my revenge today

I was too tired yesterday when playing & got sloppy!

today I must avenge myself & beat 21 & 24 heat nod

later though

[manic bobcat]

nods

[old jay]

Hades is such a fantastic game, I've been playing it for a bit now and I'm really freaking enjoying it

[manic bobcat]

If you like it so much, why don't you marry it? Smh

[old jay]

Who said I didn't already?

[manic bobcat]

[old jay]

[buoyant merlin]

It really is one of those games that’s so good you can’t help but tell someone about it ya know

[signal aspen]

thanks hypnos, very cool

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/659820450297282585/853291592672084008/Screenshot_328.png

[sage skiff]

hey guys I completed the infernal arms hidden wep aspects but the achievement isnt triggering?

anyone know how to fix that

[stoic flame]

is there an achievement for that?

[stoic flame]

solid advice

[robust scaffold]

hypnos is a fellow high heat player

[sage skiff]

yes its the infernal arms achievement

i have all the hidden weapons and its not triggering :/

[signal aspen]

it says you need to unlock all weapon aspects

so

did you buy all of them

[half zephyr]

Hypnos can do 64 heat in his sleep

[sage skiff]

oh sorry you're right

everywhere i saw it was just unlock the hidden aspects lol

i just got it ty!

[signal aspen]

np

[sage skiff]

i have 2 more achievements to 100% lmfao and one is the second skelly prize, while the other is keepsake leveling

any tips for lvl 16 heat (preferably with shield or sword)

[half zephyr]

I only do it with fists

[sage skiff]

i could do fists too

[half zephyr]

and the heats I like can be not optimal choices

[signal aspen]

what does your pact look like?

[half zephyr]

listen to him instead

[signal aspen]

and what aspect are you using

[half zephyr]

he's the great god

[sage skiff]

usually i just do zag aspect w shield and preferably getting zeus and posi boons

[robust hound]

hi

[sage skiff]

for pacts i try to do tight deadline, lasting con, extreme mes

not sure what else to add

[half zephyr]

why LC

[signal aspen]

for zag aspect shield i will use aphrodite attack or artemis attack and hope for charged shot (the hammer upgrade)

[half zephyr]

[sage skiff]

bc i usually dont take much damage so its an easy one to miss

[signal aspen]

for heat i would go em2, td2, mm, js1, lc1

idk what heat that is

[half zephyr]

I can't do js

takes too much time

it's fun too

sad

[sage skiff]

10

[signal aspen]

ok

um

[half zephyr]

FO

BP

[sage skiff]

damage cntrl?

[signal aspen]

you can do bp1 and fo1

[half zephyr]

[signal aspen]

thats 6 heat right?

i cant check

im speedrunning rn lol

[sage skiff]

its 15

[half zephyr]

then add something w 1

[signal aspen]

hl1

[half zephyr]

ye

then go out & fight!

[sage skiff]

kk

awesome

would ares athena run be good for that?

or not rlly bc of doom

[half zephyr]

no clue

[signal aspen]

i would use aphro attack and hope for some zeus boons and a call to get smoldering air

ideally you would get zeus call

[half zephyr]

that reminds me I need to get smoldering air

I only ever get it offered when I have aphro or artie call & it's not exactly the best duo for those calls

[sage skiff]

got it

ill try that

[signal aspen]

you can just copy this

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/725021639506526249/840236744074985523/Screenshot_210.png

[half zephyr]

yes, do it in 12 mins

12.5 mins

swiftness of Hermes

[sage skiff]

dear god

[robust hound]

aight

[sage skiff]

12 min

ok ill try it

[robust hound]

the grind

[half zephyr]

what grind

[sage skiff]

ive been grinding achievements

[half zephyr]

coffee grind?

[half zephyr]

I don't have achievements =w=

[manic bobcat]

laughs in pcmr

[half zephyr]

[sage skiff]

are u doing it on switch?

[half zephyr]

I can get them if I bother opening my steam

[half zephyr]

ye

well, I can get the ones on my main if I bother opening my steam

baby file isn't connected to steam so

[lunar orchid]

wait theres hades for the switch?

noice

[half zephyr]

ye

[chrome wharf]

yeah it even has a cartridge version

which is half the reason why I bought it

(the other half is lament of Orpheus)

[sage skiff]

@signal aspen hey what mirror talents did u roll

[manic bobcat]

you can see his mirror right below the heat

[sage skiff]

oh ty

[sage skiff]

https://prnt.sc/15671tz

@signal aspen

LOL

THANK U

what a broken combo

[signal aspen]

Nice

Post that in #h1-victory-boasting

[tacit ember]

so hades jsut died from the demeter legendary boon

and she sayed reap what you sow

whats that suposed to mean

[half zephyr]

how much do you know about greek mythology?

[tacit ember]

not much

[half zephyr]

cuz it makes total sense

[tacit ember]

is this a persephone thing

[half zephyr]

you'll figure out if you just keep talking to demeter too

yes

[tacit ember]

isn't that all zeus' falt

[half zephyr]

Persephone is Demeters daughter

[tacit ember]

i know that

[half zephyr]

and while in the game zeus might be a bit at fault

and he might also be in the myths

[tacit ember]

also

[half zephyr]

to Demeter Hades is the one that kidnapped her sweet Kore

[tacit ember]

hades and persephone is like the most stable relationship in greek mythology

like they dont cheat on each other

thats so rare

[half zephyr]

he kidnapped her, had her eat fruit that would trap her in the underworld & married her

[tacit ember]

ok

but like

have u seen zeus

[half zephyr]

she's also his niece

[tacit ember]

ok

[half zephyr]

[tacit ember]

there are like family trees of like heros and stuf where zeus is in ther like 4 times

[half zephyr]

I love Hades & Persephone

Zeus is.. I feel sorry for Hera

[tacit ember]

also zeus basucaly offered persephone to hades as his bride

[half zephyr]

in the game yes

[tacit ember]

no in the legend

[half zephyr]

depends on which one you read

[tacit ember]

so tldr zeus is the worst

[half zephyr]

in some Zeus is her father

[tacit ember]

isnt that the case in all of them

[half zephyr]

no

[tacit ember]

who is the father in the other ones

[half zephyr]

just like in the game - a mortal

there's so many origin stories in the myths

[tacit ember]

also kidnapping wasn't the biggest deal in anchent greece

[half zephyr]

I know

[tacit ember]

so hades good guy

[half zephyr]

I was just poking fun at your statements earlier

[tacit ember]

what statments

[half zephyr]

this

[tacit ember]

it is

[half zephyr]

I know

doesn't mean I can't poke fun at it

[tacit ember]

k

side note

persephone isn't really the goddess of spring or whatever

thats demeters job

persephones only job is queen of the underworld

[half zephyr]

no

she's also a goddess of fertility

and she does sometimes bear the title of goddess of spring or springs bounty

[tacit ember]

huh didnt know that

yes but like

thats kind of a side effect of demeter not being sad

[half zephyr]

doesn't matter

[tacit ember]

bruh

[half zephyr]

titles & domains change

[tacit ember]

fun fact

people avoided mentioning persephone and hades' names because they were scary or something

[half zephyr]

great, I'll be going now

bye

[tacit ember]

and i poems,storys and stuf persephone is often mentioned as "dread persephony"

[outer yoke]

Heyo peeps!

[signal aspen]

hello

[outer yoke]

Just had my third run of the game and faced the double bosses for the first time ; . ;
Not a pleasant experience

I was feeling like a god until that point, brought me back to reality

[tacit ember]

u mean the hydra?

[outer yoke]

Nope, minotaur and perseus i think

[tacit ember]

or like the bomb duds

ahha

[signal aspen]

theseus

[outer yoke]

I was surprised I reached so far so early

[tacit ember]

theseus

[outer yoke]

oh

but yeah, those two are scary

[tacit ember]

i am good at spelling

[outer yoke]

I also encountered the minotaur before their bossfight

[tacit ember]

also u made it the the third boss on ur third run?

[signal aspen]

yeah

[outer yoke]

yus >.<

[signal aspen]

the minotaur shows up as the boss and the mini boss

sometimes

[tacit ember]

how

[outer yoke]

Hydra didn't give me much problems

[tacit ember]

it took me a while to even get to meg

[outer yoke]

Idk, I've had a lot of experience with rogue-like games, maybe just got lucky

[tacit ember]

have u played noita

[outer yoke]

Oh yeah

I do have that game

[tacit ember]

nice

[outer yoke]

It's some 500iq stuff, too many secrets

I'm liking hades doe, animations and art style be crisp and smooth

[tacit ember]

i did the 33 orb thing a while ago

then took a break

now i cant even get past the first level

[outer yoke]

Are there some secrets i should know for this game doe >.<

[manic bobcat]

3 try to champions is like really good i think

[outer yoke]

o.O thanks

[manic bobcat]

did you figure out how to beat them yet?

[outer yoke]

Oh no well, as it was my first try against them

I did figure out to focus the minotaur guy first

cuz the other dude just throws spears

[brisk trail]

Heey

[manic bobcat]

yeah, the spear also has indicator and sound. if you get the timing right, you don't even need to hide behind pillars to dodge it

[outer yoke]

oh yeah, I saw the crosshairs blink up

[brisk trail]

(Moved from discussion from #h1-for-new-players )

[outer yoke]

the mob archer enemies gave me some practice

[manic bobcat]

yee

[outer yoke]

Still a long way to go doe

Felt meg was harder than the hydra

[brisk trail]

I found GIF with Zagreus

[tacit ember]

i wish apollo was in the game

[brisk trail]

https://tenor.com/view/bouncyzag-hades-sgg-lunagifs-excited-gif-20453538

[tacit ember]

lmao

[brisk trail]

.

[manic bobcat]

nice lol

[outer yoke]

Just unlocked the shield

it seems powerful

[brisk trail]

https://tenor.com/view/hades-game-hades-game-zagreus-guess-ill-die-gif-19123974

[outer yoke]

I reached the third boss with the bow for the second time

[tacit ember]

its ok

bow is great

[manic bobcat]

good luck. you got this

[cerulean ferry]

Bow is fun once you get the hang of it

[outer yoke]

Yeah, I saw the "timed release" thing

release when it flashes

[manic bobcat]

dash strike a lot

the charge time is shorter

[brisk trail]

https://tenor.com/view/hades-logo-hades-game-logo-hades-title-supergiant-games-supergiant-gif-15376342

[manic bobcat]

in fact, i would go as far as saying dash strike only on bow

[tacit ember]

yes

[manic bobcat]

nice

[tacit ember]

i would also say that

[outer yoke]

I see

[brisk trail]

Thanks 🙂

[outer yoke]

Is there some secret interaction stuff i should know about

[brisk trail]

https://tenor.com/view/bouncyzag-hades-sgg-lunagifs-excited-gif-20453538

[outer yoke]

I just unlocked the bar doe, looks pretty epic

[quaint wind]

@brisk trail a little less gifs, please

[manic bobcat]

there are some, but they are quite niche and I don't think applicable to you yet.

[brisk trail]

My favourite GIF Lol

[brisk trail]

Ok mod 🙂

[manic bobcat]

the game expands further after your first clear.

[outer yoke]

oh i see

are there 4 bosses total ?

[brisk trail]

Hear gods my desperate plea
And don't ban my love, please

(My love is that server)

🤭

[quaint wind]

everything is fine just be mindful of gif use

[brisk trail]

Ok

Btw I love sendig GIFs

Hey

[manic bobcat]

do it responsibly

[outer yoke]

aight time to try and beat the 3rd boss >: )

never thought i would be able to furnish the depths of hell

[quaint wind]

good luck!

[manic bobcat]

yeah, i mean that depends if you count miniboss as bosses
but there are 4 main biomes

[cerulean ferry]

Good luck!!

[outer yoke]

where is the gummy bear machine : (

[brisk trail]

Anyone remember text to Lament Of Orpheus?

[tacit ember]

lmao i have almost all the apsects at maxes level but i dont even have the hades aspect for the spear

[brisk trail]

Wait what-

[manic bobcat]

hades best spear though

o.o

[brisk trail]

Admin is BOT

[tacit ember]

achilles tho

[manic bobcat]

permission thing i think

[signal aspen]

guan yu best spear

[brisk trail]

Hey

[manic bobcat]

you disgust me

[tacit ember]

fun fact

[brisk trail]

Already I have Megaira to defeat

[manic bobcat]

[tacit ember]

dionysus was often confused with zagreus

[brisk trail]

God

No no no!!!

[tacit ember]

they were like the same character or something and got split apart

[brisk trail]

(Sorry my brother text what I say)

[tacit ember]

ok

[manic bobcat]

dont try to evade the filter, mods might yell at you

[brisk trail]

Ok

Me after defeating Meg: 🤪

Someone have great profile picture with Meg?

[tacit ember]

me when i pic the npc room in elysium despite using a cast build, having max health and all my dds:

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-kermit-the-frog-bruh-smiling-drive-gif-15005835

[manic bobcat]

I love this pic

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/456894163292520448/794254630464520202/HappyNewYearFromChaos.png

it looks awesome

[glacial lagoon]

Woah

[brisk trail]

What the-

[manic bobcat]

meg without hair tie is just...

[glacial lagoon]

Why are zags feet orange again

I forgot if he wears shoes

[manic bobcat]

he doesn't

[cerulean ferry]

His feet burn

[brisk trail]

AMAZING!!!!

[glacial lagoon]

OH

[manic bobcat]

hades also have burning feet

[glacial lagoon]

That makes sense

[manic bobcat]

like father like son

[brisk trail]

Where is Hades in this pic?

[manic bobcat]

probably at his desk?

[tacit ember]

lmao

the question is where is dusa

[manic bobcat]

right there in front of the boat

[tacit ember]

u mean the scull?

[brisk trail]

Hey I have an question

[signal aspen]

no

[brisk trail]

What is the names of 3 FURY SISTERS?

[tacit ember]

my teacher used to always say "And I have an answer!" when some one sayed that

[signal aspen]

alecto, meg, tisiphone

[manic bobcat]

Erinyes?

[signal aspen]

oh

[brisk trail]

Ok

[signal aspen]

yeah

[tacit ember]

what is an erin

[manic bobcat]

er

[brisk trail]

What is name of FURY SISTER who says ,,Murderer"

?

[manic bobcat]

Tisiphone

[brisk trail]

Private if you want to see comic book with her

[tacit ember]

u know how the game prepares u for the bosses moves with enemies from the previews aria

hades' spear thrust is totaly the rat bite move thingy

[brisk trail]

...

Who want'y?

[manic bobcat]

sounds like no one. also be careful with "problematic" contents on this server lol

[brisk trail]

Oh...

😦

[tacit ember]

i kinda wana see

[buoyant valley]

[brisk trail]

Yaaay

[tacit ember]

comit dm

[brisk trail]

:)'

[tacit ember]

does than go up and drag zag back to hades everytime u escape

because of the whole personification of death thing

[brisk trail]

Idk

😄

[tacit ember]

or does he only care about mortals

[manic bobcat]

i think than is more like a elite squad to deal with problematic issues

[signal aspen]

im pretty sure than deals with mortals

[manic bobcat]

because some mortals go to the underworld by charon also

[brisk trail]

Hey

Challenge

Ping me

[tacit ember]

i though than guided souls to charon

[brisk trail]

Hey

Challenge

But you must do what you say

Lol

[manic bobcat]

please don't spam the server for things that should go on DM

[brisk trail]

What?

DM?

[tacit ember]

yo hypno just got a compliment from nyx

pog

[brisk trail]

Yeh

Robbed Charon?

[tacit ember]

its a boss fight

[brisk trail]

Yep I know

That's funny

That voice of Zagreus...

He was surpirsed

lmafo

[tacit ember]

lmao i havnt used the sisyphus keepsake even once

[brisk trail]

Okaaay

I win with Robbed Charon

On Nintendo Sw

[lunar orchid]

with the aspect of something with the rail

where it makes you empowered for 4sec

is that just the attack that gets boosted or everything?

[signal aspen]

everything

[tacit ember]

its great

[brisk trail]

😦

[glacial lagoon]

A lot of the keepsakes seem underpowered

[signal aspen]

yeah there are some keepsakes that arent as good as the others

[manic bobcat]

yeah not all keepsakes are made equal

[glacial lagoon]

But the other half are pretty viable, even if I never use the boon keepsakes

[tacit ember]

lmao i gto 3 ares boons in tartarus

and they are all the one that i wanted

[cerulean ferry]

Nice

[manic bobcat]

you should use them. they are really good

[signal aspen]

yeah you should always start a run with a god keepsake

but there are a couple exceptions

like boonless runs

[lunar orchid]

yeah i got everything for ME in tartarus before i left

and triple shot

off to a good start

[manic bobcat]

wait ME on bow?

[signal aspen]

nice

[lunar orchid]

no im using rail

pewpew gun

[signal aspen]

even better

[lunar orchid]

if i get a chance to replace the something you dont lose the duo that needs it right?

[signal aspen]

no

like if you have dems cast and crystal clarity and then replace dem cast you keep the duo boon but it becomes useless

[lunar orchid]

how come i have a green star on my head?

is that like the mark but for them?

[charred hemlock]

does divine protection count as a deflect or no im guesing no right?

[lunar orchid]

if it deflects somethjing?

[charred hemlock]

yeah

does it deflect attacks the legendary

[signal aspen]

athenas legendary boon doesnt deflect anything

[charred hemlock]

ah ok

[signal aspen]

wait what

[lunar orchid]

its like a green star thing that shows up randomly

[signal aspen]

idk what you are talking about

[lunar orchid]

ill take a snap next time iot hapepns

ohhh

its the deadly reversal duo boob

boon

lol

from athena that gives you 2sec of 30% additional critical after you deflec

[stoic flame]

me when boob

[crude surge]

what

[lunar orchid]

ive never had that boon before

i guess i never saw it before

is there anyway to undown renovations?

[half zephyr]

you can swap out things if you scroll down

if you mean contractor

and undoing things

some things can't be undone though

[lunar orchid]

oh nice

what do the themes do

they dont seem to change much

[half zephyr]

change victory screen

[lunar orchid]

o

like where you show off your booners?

[half zephyr]

yes

[cerulean ferry]

Yeah

[lunar orchid]

lovely

[signal aspen]

What's a booner

[half zephyr]

idk

[lunar orchid]

boons

[opal wharf]

when the wood girl sings

feels good

[half zephyr]

[bronze wind]

Yes! I beat hades for the first time!

[half zephyr]

[brisk trail]

AYYY!!!

[opal wharf]

nice

im proud

[quaint wind]

congrats!

[signal aspen]

Nice

[stoic flame]

epic

[crude surge]

gaming

[runic surge]

does anyone know what exactly happens with the timer for your run when you finish the main story and get the credits and such

I was on a like 16 minute run and then got the ending and it recorded my time as 21 minutes ☹️

does it just discard your time since you ||don't fight hades||? ~21 minutes was my previous best

or does it keep the timer going while the story things happen?

[unborn remnant]

probably includes the credits?

[manic bobcat]

I am fairly sure the timer stops when the clear screen (with the boons, records, etc) appears. The time on that timer is the recorded time for your run.

[manic bobcat]

oh if you don't fight Hades then im not sure tbh

[runic surge]

@manic bobcat yeah, no fight, no clear screen

[stiff musk]

the run is still going on

you never cleared

[runic surge]

that’s pretty dumb

[unborn remnant]

its workable

[warm charm]

how can i backup my save file

sometimes, my pc crashes and mostly i would just corrupt my save file

[manic bobcat]

have you read #h1-tech-fixes ?
if you still have problems, try #h1-tech-support

[bronze wind]

Played hades 19 hours this week, no regrets.

[runic surge]

wdym?

[unborn remnant]

I misread this sorry

I thought it was intended

not a bug

[runic surge]

I've no idea what it is

if it's the timer going through the credits then probably a bug or oversight though

or they just decided that makes up for not having to do the fight?

[unborn remnant]

I think its the latter

regardless, as long as its only one run, it doesn't make a big difference

just more timesave for the next run

[runic surge]

I was just excited to get a run several minutes better than my previous best 😓

[unborn remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/avatar-the-last-airbender-zuko-thats-rough-buddy-thats-rough-gif-4264932

the good thing is though, usually if you run the same build you have a good chance of getting a similar time

[runic surge]

yeah that makes sense

I was just really lucky with an early daedalus enchant

but yeah I can probably mostly get the same build

we'll see

[unborn remnant]

you got this

[runic surge]

thank you

[unborn remnant]

what was the build?

[runic surge]

pretty much just poseidon spam haha

on zagreus shield, and the daedalus enchant was the double strike

[unborn remnant]

thats not bad

could be optimized even further with a different aspect

[runic surge]

oh like what?

[unborn remnant]

a lot of people like to run the Chaos shield with special spam

but usually they run Ares instead of the knockback

[runic surge]

oh yeah I've been working on upgrading the chaos one, it seems fun

why ares?

hmm I guess your moves are pretty slow

[unborn remnant]

Chaos is the best way to spread Doom

if you upgrade it you can spread it to many enemies at once

[runic surge]

that makes sense

[unborn remnant]

so most people like to run that with combos of other boons

its been a while since i played so i dont exactly remember

[bronze wind]

Does anyone else use aspect of zeus on aegis 0_0

[runic surge]

I haven't tried it, no titan blood :(

[unborn remnant]

yes

Zeus aspect is great

really hard to get used to but super cool

[bronze wind]

I love it, it is the only weapon I have beat the game with.

[runic surge]

it seems like fun

[unborn remnant]

You can use it to kite enemies really well

its a standard projectile

you can knock enemies into it

tons of options

[bronze wind]

I do not has aspect of beowulf yet but it looks cool.

[unborn remnant]

its very fast

super optimal

[runic surge]

is that the last aegis aspect?

[bronze wind]

yes

[unborn remnant]

yeah

[bronze wind]

If you plan on using aspect of zeus you have to change your play style, using it while spamming dash, bullrush, and attack is incredibly slow.

[lunar orchid]

can you never upgrade hermes boons?

[runic surge]

I don't think so, you can upgrade their rarity though

[lunar orchid]

omg i hate lava

[unborn remnant]

You can't pom them no

because they're passives

[runic surge]

?

passive boons can still get poms

just not hermes ones

[unborn remnant]

I mean

yeah you're right

sorry

forgot that others have passives LMAO

could you imagine just using poms on hermes for 200%+ move speed

10 dashes

[runic surge]

that would be really funny

[unborn remnant]

it would be extremely funny

[runic surge]

attack or special speed

[unborn remnant]

50% dodge rate

[quaint wind]

10 dashes..... oh count me in

[unborn remnant]

"ganondorf but all his attacks are instant" energy

[manic bobcat]

Play Gilgamesh, Greater Reflex, Hermes Epic Dash (+3) and you get 10 dashes easy

[chilly sonnet]

How long after maxing your bond with Dusa do you have to wait until the romance?

I'm trying to get her and aphro's chibi art thing but I'm still waiting for dusa to show up in zags room

[chrome wharf]

iirc it took me less than 10 runs

she dragged me into my room which made me miss another NPC convo and I'm still mad about it....

[lunar orchid]

i finally found a switch

yay

bought hades too

def doesnt look as good on tv heh

but its nice to have portable hades

[buoyant valley]

i always play hades on my tv

maybe thats why i suck

[robust scaffold]

idt it matters lol

[runic surge]

I never noticed a difference

[lunar orchid]

with switch?

ive always played on pc

maybe its cause its on a 4k monitor

the resolutions not going to make you any better

[manic bobcat]

Yeah that would be quite the jump.
The Switch is not even 1080p (portable).

[lunar orchid]

i had to go out of town for a switch

but i finally got one

yay

i wonder if civ is good on switch

[hollow hawk]

Ehhhh

Its.. ok. But i wouldnt recommend it on switch

[lunar orchid]

i love on pc

it would seem weird with a joystick

[hollow hawk]

yeah, plus no mods available

[lunar orchid]

oh lame

hmmpf

i love hades is on switch

[tepid plover]

@quaint hatch wake up

[livid mist]

YESSSS I BEAT HADES WITH GUAN YU ASPECT

[hollow hawk]

poggies congrats

[livid mist]

Ty

Had a nice build

[high island]

TVs have a lot of input lag due to all the post-processing that monitors don't do. If you have something like a gaming mode, that will skip all of that and help with input lag; but even then, TVs are typically not optimized for input lag.

[buoyant valley]

I don’t notice any input lag

[half zephyr]

I only play handheld

[half zephyr]

[manic bobcat]

Displays have some specifications including refresh rate and response time.
Refresh rate is kinda whatever. Most, if not every, modern displays can run at 60 fps or above easily.
Response time is a bit different. Computer monitors usually have lower response time while TVs usually have higher. Hence you have more "lag" on TVs. But if people can play on Xbox and PS with TV and be successful, I think you would be fine.

[manic bobcat]

laughs in pcmr

[half zephyr]

[manic bobcat]

[half zephyr]

[manic bobcat]

wait

[half zephyr]

[manic bobcat]

[half zephyr]

I will try to get revenge later

[manic bobcat]

got you

[half zephyr]

[manic bobcat]

good luck. let me know.

[tacit ember]

i have totaly forgoten the lore of this game, why did persephone leave the underwold again?

[manic bobcat]

because she didn't want to trigger a war between heaven and then underworld if they find out about hades and her i think
the (supposed) death of zagreus was the trigger for her to leave

or maybe im completely off the mark here

[half zephyr]

something like that

[robust scaffold]

lol

[half zephyr]

short answer is

they didn't talk enough with each other

communication people

it's kinda important

[tacit ember]

who is the narrator guy like conalically

[half zephyr]

unknown

theorised to be Homer or smth

but we legit don't have a name afaik

[tacit ember]

why homer