#h1-discussion

1 messages · Page 1168 of 1

grand crystal
#

i cant hear it tho

#

only read

#

and i can choose not to read

deep parrot
#

whatever

#

ok seriously gn y'all

desert meadow
#

Reading is overrated anyway

sudden patrol
#

oh dang

rapid acorn
#

Touché

sudden patrol
#

support fire

rapid acorn
#

Gn y’all

grand crystal
#

goodnight pine

desert meadow
sudden patrol
#

that's literal free damage

rapid acorn
#

Texas fang: out

sudden patrol
#

support fire+chiron=op

desert meadow
#

Might as well grab pressure points for the heck of it too

sudden patrol
#

only way to improve the run is to take the only fun and useful boon from the worst goddess

#

if by the worst goddess I mean athena

desert meadow
#

Pffft

sudden patrol
#

and the only boon is dash

#

athena is less fun than say, aphro

desert meadow
#

I wouldn’t call her boons bad, she’s just not flashy

sudden patrol
#

aphro only slightly decreases damage which is more interesting than invincibility

#

athena makes tanking damage too easy imo

desert meadow
#

I mean, yeah, but Athena greater call is amazing

sudden patrol
#

true

#

but her other ones are just so lame imo

desert meadow
#

Getting a dd back is nice at least

sudden patrol
#

I'm gonna use the athena boon in elysium simply for DD

vapid narwhal
#

her attacks and special enables merciful end, and that's enough of a reason

desert meadow
#

^

sudden patrol
#

that one is decent but not good if you're not late

#

basically a worse patro imo

#

merciful end is arte+athena, right?

desert meadow
#

Ares Athena

vapid narwhal
#

ares+ athena

desert meadow
#

You need either Ares attack or special and either Athena attack or special for it.

vapid narwhal
#

yeah athena dash doesnt enable it

sudden patrol
#

hm, my only issue is health

#

I'm basically the definition of a glass cannon

#

I only have 225 health, gonna try to get more

vapid narwhal
#

zag sword, hidden fist, zag shield all work well with athena/ares

#

225 is not bad

sudden patrol
#

But not great

desert meadow
#

I normally have less then that recently

sudden patrol
#

I like to get up close and personal with chiron for some reason and I take lots of damage

vapid narwhal
#

at Elysium? totally in a good spot

sudden patrol
#

so I'm gonna try to get to 325 by the end of the run

#

im in aspho

vapid narwhal
#

well you should keep your distance with a bow

sudden patrol
#

ikik

desert meadow
vapid narwhal
#

yep it does

desert meadow
#

So it’s like tidal dash and sea storm

#

I figured but wasn’t sure

runic parrot
#

its weird that only athena attack and special are prereqs for me

#

i get pulling out the dash because that would be pretty op

#

but why not the cast or the aid

desert meadow
#

Cast seems inefficient to trigger ME often

pliant hull
desert meadow
#

And aid would just make you stand there and punch things for huge damage

grand crystal
runic parrot
#

im not talking about efficiency

#

more about the prereqs for it

vapid narwhal
#

those are also irrelevant for Chiron anyway

grand crystal
pliant hull
#

Who cares about efficiency til you get to high heat strategies.

grand crystal
#

me over here whos beaten 45 heat

runic parrot
#

ok? but i wasnt talking about that

pliant hull
desert meadow
#

I think they were trying for this to be something you have to use a few moves well together for one to use right, so making the prereqs limited gets that idea across more?

grand crystal
pliant hull
#

I've yet to try out Rama. Hera's just fun.

grand crystal
#

rama makes so much heat free, deals soo much damage

sudden patrol
#

btw fun fact than centaur hearts aren't affected by life affirmation

#

so wtf is it that he gives you

grand crystal
#

well its not the room reward

pliant hull
#

Get Demeter casts with Infernal Soul; feels real good

grand crystal
#

thats why it isnt affected

sudden patrol
#

the hearts of the people he harvested?

vapid narwhal
#

life affirmation has some exceptions

runic parrot
#

life affirmation specifically states "room reward"

desert meadow
#

Yeah, his heart is always the standard

sudden patrol
#

ik but still

sudden patrol
#

funnier to imagine that he just ripped out the hearts of some soul he transported and gave it to zag

vapid narwhal
#

it does not apply to beating Thanatos reward

#

since that is not a room reward

grand crystal
#

still a free heart tho :3

desert meadow
runic parrot
#

which centaurs are zag taking these from

grand crystal
#

so on high heat ill for sure take it if i can

vapid narwhal
#

free heart is a free heart

#

you dont even need to beat him, matching him also counts

sudden patrol
desert meadow
#

But beating him is more satisfying

#

Especially when he doesn’t get any kills

sudden patrol
#

welp

#

time to fight theseus and the minotaur

#

but I think I have it

#

cuz i did get DD

#

beat him

#

them

#

only used 1 dd

sudden patrol
#

died to the second phase of hades with him having like 1000 health left

#

AHHH

#

I HATE THIS SO MUCH

#

EVEN WITH AN OP BUILD I STILL LOST

#

WHY DOES THIS GAME HATE ME SO MUCH

#

IM JUST GONNA GO PLAY POKEMON OR SOMETHING

#

WHERE I DONT DIE TO THE VERY FINAL PHASE OF THE FINAL BOSS EVEN WHEN I HAVE AN INSANE BUILD

#

what's the point of playing if I die every single time

#

and if thanatos will never spawn

#

what's the point of saving this ambrosia

brazen lagoon
#

just get good lole xd

sudden patrol
#

I can't get good when hades curbstomps me every single goddamn time I try to make a fun powerful build

#

guess I'm going to go back to unfun, uninteresting dps builds based around aphro

weak spruce
#

arthur is pissing me off

wooden karma
#

I almost beat hades twice

#

I can consistently reach him now, but I die on second phase

weak spruce
#

how many dds ?

plucky sonnet
#

does the shared suffering on aspect of rama proc doom?

wooden karma
#

I mean; Hades is pretty fair as fair as far as rogue-like final bosses are concerned

#

He ain’t no mithrix thats for sure

#

Because he can’t one-shot you 5 seconds into the fight if you guess wrong

plucky sonnet
#

answer: no it does not

ionic trail
#

FIST RUN WITH 21 HEALTH AND NO DD LEFT

#

AAAAAH

weak spruce
#

aspect of bruh

ionic trail
#

ahahahahah

#

was running talos

#

also just unlocked hidden

#

special dashing is hard with kbm

#

i'm trying to see if mapping to the side button on my mouse would work well

weak spruce
#

yea I have problems with space+q

ionic trail
#

restricts mobility

#

i wish we can double bind

#

i wanna have q and another button

vapid narwhal
#

I dont usually play with KBM but I have special on right click, cast on mid mouse button and I think call on Q

runic parrot
#

i have cast on scrolldown

#

i think its much better for me

#

but yeah i wish double binding was a thing

#

flurry cast doesnt rly work with my setup

ionic trail
#

plz

dusky wedge
#

Man, I wish SGG gonna make a game with coop next

#

They already nailed good combat

weak spruce
#

got a duo boon for revenge attacks but I have no revenge boons

#

like why do you give it even

#

oh well 1 more for the fade list

hasty owl
rapid forum
#

more damage source squirtnya

hasty owl
#

so you probably have two you haven’t noticed

weak spruce
#

oh damn I have revenge shield, my bad

#

yea I have one

hasty owl
#

most likely curse of vengeance and heaven’s vengeance

#

love a good shield

weak spruce
#

I completely forgot I even picked it

hasty owl
#

having +300 damage every 3 seconds is pretty nice

weak spruce
#

well I am feeding cerberus now so

#

kinda late

hasty owl
#

oop

rapid forum
#

woop

#

oh well

hasty owl
#

awww he’s a good boy he deserves it

weak spruce
#

definitely

rapid forum
#

||he may kill me in EM4 but hey|| good boy indeed

hasty owl
#

bad boy

#

no murder

rapid forum
#

||if I dodged it, he wouldn't be a bad boy||

hasty owl
#

agreed

#

good boy

#

no murder

weak spruce
#

switching q and right mouse button does wonders on kbm

#

wish I did it long ago

hasty owl
#

i’ve never tried kbm

#

it feels inconvenient bc isometric

#

maybe i’ll give it a shot

brazen lagoon
#

Eh I still have them on default

#

Works just fine

weak spruce
#

I suck at dash+q moves

#

for example maul

#

dash+right mouse works

manic moat
#

you mean maim, and yea I regularly switch up my keybinds depending on the build and what I'm going to be using a lot

weak spruce
#

yes maim sry

#

only used that aspect once and that's actually when I realized shift+q is just not working for me

manic moat
#

yea lmao

weak spruce
#

does heightened security affect enemies too ?

hollow hawk
#

nope

#

only traps

#

it does affect the traps in the hades fight too

weak spruce
#

no like do the enemies also get hit for +400% dmg

hollow hawk
#

oh

#

no

weak spruce
#

okay thanks

runic parrot
#

oh yeah

#

it does

#

its traps deal 400% dmg, not "400% damage to you"

#

that's why it only costs 1 heat

#

technically you can use it to hurt enemies too

weak spruce
#

well that's fairer

runic parrot
#

its pain

#

dont ever use hs

weak spruce
#

I have to use it once

#

for the fated list

runic parrot
#

yeah

#

but afterwards, dont use it if you can

weak spruce
#

I don't think I will yea

#

traps are already a pain in the ass

#

esp. in styx

#

just need that 15 titan blood

#

also underworld customs lol I bet nobody picks this for high heat runs either

runic parrot
#

lol high heat by definition you have to pick a lot of pacts

#

but people dont generally use it at around 10-30 i think

weak spruce
#

doubt I'll go further than 32

#

iuno

pliant hull
#

I assume people have had plenty of talks on "Easiest heats to stack" before?

agile saddle
#

so i have not been in the loop for a while. have they stated if there will be continued updates or any dlc or is this it?

tight cave
agile saddle
#

damn. would be cool to see other gods

hollow hawk
#

Ive never seen it deal that much dmg

#

Wtf

hollow hawk
pliant hull
#

Danke

runic parrot
#

though i could be wrong.

#

i dont run hs anymore lol turns out i was wrong and it was a liability

hollow hawk
#

im pretty sure it doesnt affect trap dmg to enemies

dusky wedge
#

Underworld custom is one of the easier ones to have, it doesn’t affect how quickly enemies can kill me shadesmile

uncut ore
#

PLEASE TELL ME I CAN GIVE BOULDY NECTAR

#

I WANT TO ROMANCE HIM

#

HES TOO SWEET

pliant hull
#

Ohey

carmine ravine
uncut ore
#

wait what

#

I was joking

#

YO

#

btw whos this undiscovered guy?

carmine ravine
#

Ur mo-

#

Probably asphodels boss

uncut ore
carmine ravine
#

Yea if its not then im too lazy to checkresidentzag

uncut ore
#

the wiki says theres only 10 things in the others of note

pliant hull
uncut ore
#

yep

#

like 4 times

pliant hull
#

Ocool.

uncut ore
#

persephone isnt an "other of note"

#

shes a god

pliant hull
#

It's Persephone.

#

I just double checked

uncut ore
#

what

pliant hull
#

It's only unlocked when you get the "main" ending.

uncut ore
#

ah

#

um

#

ok

pliant hull
#

10 finished runs

uncut ore
#

oh thats not so bad

#

dont tell me anything more

pliant hull
#

I'm not

#

It's fairly easy once you get to Styx regularly

#

I think I did it ~round 40, but I'm a freak of nature that played way to many hacky slashies as a kid

uncut ore
#

I die in styx so much 😦

pliant hull
#

Stay out of the poison pools

carmine ravine
#

I mean run 40 isnt that short

uncut ore
brazen lagoon
#

first game back in a while and i have aphro legendary and geart rend out of tartarus

#

pure gamer skill right here

uncut ore
#

and bouldy

pliant hull
#

Seems just slightly below average

brazen lagoon
#

im running chiron with relentless volley

#

going pretty well

carmine ravine
#

Yea

uncut ore
#

534

cunning cradle
uncut ore
#

at the end of tartarus

#

thats good right?

pliant hull
brazen lagoon
#

yeah thats pretty good

cunning cradle
#

dang i got my first at 67

brazen lagoon
#

my first was at 39

#

was smooth sailing after the first clear tho

cunning cradle
#

to be fair i never played on a console that wasn't 3ds until a month ago

pliant hull
#

The only games I played as a kid were hack and slash, Mario Party, Melee, and strategy

#

And I suck at most of those

cunning cradle
#

lmao

pliant hull
#

Hades just clicked with me in a way few games have in the past.

#

I got to Asphodel on my second try, and I beat the final boss on round 25 on my second attempt to Styx, first on the boss.

#

(Never mind I lost the next 8 attempts)

#

(Cause, again, I'm bad at video games)

carmine ravine
#

My first clear is at 26

#

Wow

pliant hull
#

I'm certain there's people that beat it faster than me, though

brazen lagoon
#

my luck is monumental holy hell

carmine ravine
#

I think i spent most of my early runs killing myself to get more dialogues tho so idk

pliant hull
brazen lagoon
#

all skill no luck 😎

pliant hull
#

😎

#

I've certainly tossed myself to the fires a few times due to sad times or wanting to progress dialogue.

#

I'm 60 or so rounds in?

brazen lagoon
#

im about 400 runs in

pliant hull
#

I'll get there.

#

Highest heat I've beat is 4, I think, but that's because I'm not going for high heats yet. You need SOOOOOO many diamonds.

fringe elbow
#

WOAH || ASTERIUS IN ARMOR ||

pliant hull
#

?

fringe elbow
#

From em3, i think?

hollow hawk
fringe elbow
#

uh oh

brazen lagoon
#

you're gonna have a bad time

fringe elbow
#

Aw man

#

Afraid to end this dialogue

#

omfg || he spin ||

#

hey i did it tho

pliant hull
#

Indeetabutidly

fringe elbow
#

omg i wasnt ready to see theseus

pliant hull
#

What's wrong with Theseus

fringe elbow
#

he’s in his || chariot ||

half zephyr
half zephyr
#

Wait until you hear him laugh

fringe elbow
#

hes literally doing driveby shootings lmao

half zephyr
#

Mhmm

#

It’s very fun to run into Asterius on em3 with Zeus shield - it turns into a ||beyblade|| duel hehe

#

And if you add ares cast on top of that..

#

Very fun

fringe elbow
#

you were right his laugh was worth it

half zephyr
#

IKR

#

His laugh makes em3 so much better - it’s hilarious

fringe elbow
#

LOL i didnt expect him to || fall out || this just keeps getting better

half zephyr
#

Uhhuh

fringe elbow
#

alright well that was pretty cool

half zephyr
#

I love em3

brazen lagoon
#

wow i am rusty

fringe elbow
#

its honestly nice being able to hit theseus without his shield for the first half

brazen lagoon
#

almost died to the heroes

pliant hull
#

oof

half zephyr
#

But you didn’t!

brazen lagoon
#

or maybe im just not used to chiron

#

gave it the benefit of the doubt

#

my lucks been pretty good tho im just kinda bad

fringe elbow
#

question, if i want to take a duo just to sell it since it doesnt mesh with my build, will it always show up as an option to sell in the next well of charon, or is it rng what options come up to sell?

half zephyr
#

Rng

pliant hull
#

Always lucky, never good

brazen lagoon
#

all luck no skill 😎

half zephyr
#

Can use fated persuasion to reroll

fringe elbow
#

ah ok, im always afraid ill get stuck with the crystal beam that shoots at zag

half zephyr
#

But still rng

fringe elbow
#

saving up my darkness to upgrade that one, i put everything into the room reroll before i realized the other mirror talents were there

half zephyr
#

Why not use a key?

fringe elbow
#

i could i guess, but i like what ive currently got upgraded too

#

& im almost at the amount i need now

half zephyr
#

You can still upgrade it again hehe

#

Cool

#

I’ve maxed my mirror

fringe elbow
#

i think its the last talent before ive maxed mine too

half zephyr
#

Neat

fringe elbow
#

maybe a few more ranks of some green skills actually

#

but all the purple are done

half zephyr
#

It’s so nice being able to just swap between everything

#

Don’t really do it much, but it’s nice having the option

fringe elbow
#

satyrs make me want to commit war crimes

pliant hull
half zephyr
#

It’s their first winter

#

And it seems endless

#

Still rude to shoot poison darts at you though

fringe elbow
#

what even are they

#

humans?

#

well, goat humans

half zephyr
#

Half goat half man

#

Worshippers of Pan & Dionysus

fringe elbow
#

oops

#

why are dios followers such meanie heads

half zephyr
#

Nymphs have to be careful around them

half zephyr
fringe elbow
#

i figured all of dios followers would just be nice party animals

half zephyr
#

Ye, these are very much part animal

fringe elbow
#

you got me there

brazen lagoon
#

i died to hades

fringe elbow
#

also used to think they all had some weird helmet on or something but its actually 3 rats on their head

brazen lagoon
#

bruh

half zephyr
brazen lagoon
#

i dont even remember the last time i died to hades

#

he was like 2 hits away from death too

pliant hull
half zephyr
#

Sad

pliant hull
#

I'd say

#

it was under 5 minutes ago

#

your last time dying to Hades

brazen lagoon
#

that is true

fringe elbow
#

i hear the satyr phlegm noise in my nightmares

half zephyr
brazen lagoon
#

cant hear them if you turn the sound off

half zephyr
#

They’re easy enough to take down tho

brazen lagoon
#

5head

#

imma try again with eris rail

#

not gonna die this time

half zephyr
#

Have fun

pliant hull
#

Real quick, I wanna say

#

I finally got what bothered me about the nectar.

half zephyr
#

?

#

What is it then?

pliant hull
#

I forget I can't post pictures here (which is fair)

#

It looks like Ravio's rented items from Link Between Worlds

#

Lil bunny ears

half zephyr
#

The bow?

pliant hull
#

?

#

Look up Ravio's rented items link between worlds

#

Actually

half zephyr
#

To me the nectar looks like a perfume bottle hehe

#

Cuz there’s a lot of perfume bottles that get decorated with bows

pliant hull
#

Kinda, ye

manic moat
#

it looks like a gold coin with a blue ribbon to me

half zephyr
#

Woo, got my first under 20 min clear

#

And I even got 2 legendaries & 3 duos - not a bad run

#

I needed that

runic parrot
#

congrats!

brazen lagoon
fringe elbow
#

anyone able to tell me, if i’m gifting || than & meg ambrosia simultaneously, will they get mad at me or something? || got some comments about it from a couple people, but nobody hates me... yet

brisk trail
fringe elbow
#

nice, thanks

#

trying out lucifer aspect

brisk trail
#

Not my thing

#

idk i gave up in asphodel

#

But probably was the build working against me

fringe elbow
#

i like the beam, special is taking some getting used to tho

hollow hawk
#

just special in between reloading and inbetween enemy spawns

fringe elbow
#

oh my god i didnt think the ball pulses would take on the athena effect
little deflecting beacons, i love it

charred anchor
#

having the shield is so funny in survival rooms

#

you just stand in the corner holding it

manic moat
#

yea

brisk trail
#

I've never tried that

fringe elbow
#

big brain time

unborn remnant
#

Good morning :)

#

doing good?

brisk trail
#

morning!

#

doing p good!

unborn remnant
#

very good

stiff meadow
#

Morning friends

#

So on the topic of lucifer

#

I had a sick run a while ago that I just realised I can't post yet because I have no roles

#

one moment

tough junco
#

hello fellas i have discovered the joy of wikihow dramatic readings while hades music plays

runic parrot
#

you can't post images here anyway

stiff meadow
#

oh can you not

#

oh well

#

It was a beam build

hardy kernel
#

you post links to images

stiff meadow
#

right

hardy kernel
#

like on imgur

runic parrot
#

if it's the victory screen you can post it to the victory channel

stiff meadow
#

it's for the discussion of the lucifer build though

hardy kernel
snow void
#

Hey guys uh

#

How do you do the renovate the lounge quest

pliant hull
#

@snow void do renovations in the lounge.

charred anchor
#

pain

#

this is the second time in a row this has happened

pliant hull
#

Itll come to you dw

#

And im not being a smart aleck about the renovations. You just gotta do em.

silver totem
#

hey all anyone here on pc that could answer a question about screen tearing? I am not having problems but i want to understand screen tearing within a game like this one.

hollow hawk
#

its a room reward

hollow hawk
fringe elbow
#

made it to 8 heat 😄

hardy kernel
#

Nice!

silver totem
hollow hawk
silver totem
#

ok ty

vapid narwhal
half zephyr
#

Fun

hardy arrow
#

Talk to #h1-tech-support to figure why Hades' lasers are going in the wrong direction.

half zephyr
hushed stream
#

they're all on Hades i think

half zephyr
#

It was a joke

hushed stream
#

I don't think i'm getting it then :b

half zephyr
#

Seeking lasers w Stygian + bonus bloodstones is amazing

stark onyx
#

hehehehehe

half zephyr
#

Same w hunting blades

stark onyx
#

kinda sad i got cold embrace but i managed to snag mirage shot, fully loaded and another cast

half zephyr
#

Neat

hushed stream
#

The problem is that Hades moves a fair bit, that would work wonders for the hydras

half zephyr
#

Not when you have seeking lasers hehe

#

They follow the enemies

stark onyx
#

the damage was so huge i got a cerberus skip

half zephyr
#

Same w hunting blades

#

Seeks out enemies

half zephyr
stark onyx
#

dropped 4 mirage achilles buffed casts + artemis call + than

lost wolf
#

I have two slothful boons from chaos right now, one is -52% speed and the other is -57%

#

I barely move at all lol

pliant hull
#

@hollow hawk Room rewards drift to you if you walk off screen and wait, tho

hardy arrow
#

When I get a slothful curse with one of those weapons I feel like I outwitted the primordial originator of the universe.

lost wolf
#

Nah I got the bow lol

#

I would feel big brained if I had those too

hollow hawk
#

i thought they just stayed wherever they dropped

pliant hull
#

I saw it happen once, while I was tabbing back and forth reading discord and talking to someone.

#

I assume it's specifically if you're over lava right when it spawns and want to get out immediately, and don't want to take damage picking it up

deep parrot
#

apparently you can get behind this side of weapons

#

not the other side

#

and it seems you can only get this deep, no further left, and dashing sends you out

#

it's wierd cuz it's like buggy but at the same time it doesn't matter cuz you aren't softlocked

#

you can just dash out

grand crystal
#

zag aspects 🤮(no hate and idk where you are in the game so :/)

half zephyr
#

You can do that many places

grand crystal
#

yea you can get behind the brokers desk

#

its kinda funny

half zephyr
#

Behind the flowers by Nyx

deep parrot
grand crystal
#

ahh

#

why only gun

deep parrot
#

cuz I love hestia

grand crystal
#

nice

#

i like it

#

lets me not need a brain

deep parrot
#

I am literally only using non-gun so I can do prophecies

grand crystal
#

i just press 2-3 buttons in rapid succession and kill things

deep parrot
#

lmao

half zephyr
#

Oh ye PLUM

#

I did it

#

Gilga

#

Got new best time too!
First time under 20 mins

#

I just treated it like regular fists hehe

#

That helped

deep parrot
#

lmao all my times are like over an hour

#

cuz I like to be slow

grand crystal
half zephyr
#

When I’m slow I spend around 40 mins >.>

grand crystal
#

gilga is eh ngl

#

oh thats a while

#

the only run ive had take >30 was my dash only run

half zephyr
#

You have different standards remember

deep parrot
#

the slower I am the less damage I take

grand crystal
#

and thats cuz pos only gave me his dash and went to go get milk and never came back

half zephyr
#

Really?

grand crystal
half zephyr
#

I didn’t take any dmg until tisiphone & I got to her in like 3 mins

grand crystal
#

but ME gilga is a trip

opal oar
#

most of my runs take 30-35min bc i like to run around rooms after and break all the pots :)

deep parrot
#

I take damage in tartarus >.<

half zephyr
#

And that was cuz I had all 3 sisters & triggered maim

deep parrot
#

but I almost never lose a DD in tartarus

half zephyr
deep parrot
#

and end the fury fight with almost full health

opal oar
#

I tried the speedrun timer for the first time yesterday and immediately got under 20min for the first time because scary

half zephyr
#

Oh yes!

deep parrot
#

after the heals that is

grand crystal
#

lol then theres me who only took damage once in a high heat gy run 😎 (only about 20 heat but to some people thats a lot)

half zephyr
#

I found my first maybe not so fun combo in BP2

opal oar
#

I feel like I'll die if i do that

half zephyr
#

@grand crystal Longbows that are faster & can teleport

opal oar
#

not in the game, in real life

grand crystal
opal oar
#

timers make me SO ANXIOUS

grand crystal
#

now dracons with seeking and high damage, with fo2 on, and no deflect

#

js3

half zephyr
#

And longbows that can teleport & explode into multiple exploding naked shades

opal oar
#

also Idk what happens if you lose, so

grand crystal
#

i lost that run ;w;

grand crystal
half zephyr
grand crystal
#

you just lose 5 hp per second

#

until you die

half zephyr
#

And they kept running away from me!

grand crystal
#

or clear the area

grand crystal
#

very annoying

opal oar
#

i do not like that

grand crystal
#

ive never been out of time but its a strong incentive not too run out

opal oar
#

also, if i jump to a higher heat on something does that mean I cant get the rewards?

deep parrot
#

I hate the strongbow enemies they are hard for me to not take damage from unless I have 5 dashes >.<

half zephyr
#

I need to try td2

grand crystal
#

the rewards only scale by 1 heat at a time

half zephyr
#

I tend to stick to 1, but I had 16 mins or so available against daddy this time

opal oar
#

I want to try 5 heat just long enough to get a gate. I want an onion

grand crystal
#

i.e. if you run 5 heat but the bounties are on 3 heat, you get 3 heat bounties

opal oar
#

Oh sweet!

deep parrot
grand crystal
#

and if you run 5 heat again it now gives you 4 heat bounties

grand crystal
opal oar
#

I just.... onion

charred anchor
#

yoo i just did lc4 without using any of my stubborn defiances

grand crystal
#

eyy nice

half zephyr
grand crystal
#

lc4 is a trip

#

i like it

#

makes me feel cool

charred anchor
#

i hate lc4 but i was tryna do the new challenge

opal oar
#

i think this change will like

charred anchor
#

i didnt get hazard bomb tho

deep parrot
#

and what do you mean you want an onion?

opal oar
#

prime people for how they need to be dealing with me lmao

#

i heard if you lose the erebus challenge thing

grand crystal
opal oar
#

you get an onion

#

i want an onion

grand crystal
#

yea if you lose in erebus you get union

deep parrot
opal oar
#

not for any reason i just think it'd be neat

grand crystal
#

instead of the reward

deep parrot
grand crystal
#

mhm

deep parrot
#

LMAO

grand crystal
#

you dont get the reward

deep parrot
#

I never lost in erebus yet

grand crystal
#

you get union

deep parrot
opal oar
#

I don't want reward bc i cannot survive 5 heat yet

#

I want onion

#

bc.... onion

grand crystal
#

ik from dumb enemies in erebus shadedisgruntled

charred anchor
#

i lose in erebus almost every time lol

#

i suck at it

opal oar
#

unyun

deep parrot
#

but also I am <10 heat so I have only done tartarus erebus, which is pretty easy imo

opal oar
#

what's the like.... combo for 5heat that'll kill me the least

grand crystal
opal oar
#

maybe i can escape w my onyun

grand crystal
#

around that i think should work

deep parrot
charred anchor
#

convenience fee isnt that hard either

grand crystal
#

might take you a bit over but eh

#

yea cf is also easy

#

hl is alright

#

lc dont touch until youre comfy with dodging

#

fo dont take until you want to have to relearn speeds and stuff

opal oar
#

oh I've done damage control 1 before

#

maybe approval process would be ok???

grand crystal
#

ap is annoying

#

dont take it at low heat

charred anchor
#

em2 isnt that hard tbh

grand crystal
#

^^yea its not bad

#

em3 is hard tho

charred anchor
#

yeah

deep parrot
#

each added em gets exponentially harder

grand crystal
#

js and cp are ok but not the easiest if you arent good at crowd control

charred anchor
#

it depends on the weapon/build

opal oar
#

Arthur sword

grand crystal
#

oh

#

umm

#

dont take dc then??

#

since dc sucks on one hit weapns like that

opal oar
#

big blade go wham

deep parrot
#

if I'm not doing hestia I usually add the 1 hit invulnerability blue heart thing cuz it's just +1 hit without actually giving the bosses a lot of extra health

grand crystal
#

like cp1/2, js1, td1, and maybe a bit of cf should be a good heat

#

may e put in em1 and swap it around

#

oh and em2 should be easy on arthur

#

since the holy ground makes lava not exist

half zephyr
deep parrot
#

which thing is the blue invulnerability heart?

half zephyr
#

Cuz it’s so fun

opal oar
#

the holy ground does WHATNOW

half zephyr
grand crystal
#

and lava is a trap

opal oar
#

OH MY GOD

half zephyr
#

Ground traps*

deep parrot
opal oar
#

I DIE TO TRAPS SO MUCH

deep parrot
#

I know what it does shadow lol

opal oar
#

are you KIDDING ME

half zephyr
opal oar
#

im so mad

#

okay time to rapidly improve my playstyle i guess

grand crystal
opal oar
#

also, my go-to build is slowly becoming useless

deep parrot
#

yeah I usually add DC first unless I am using hestia
cuz dc doesn't give much extra "hp" to bosses

half zephyr
#

So

deep parrot
#

(unless you're using like hestia)

opal oar
#

I used to just do all revenge build but now I don't get hit as much because I'm FINALLY learning to dodge

half zephyr
#

Who else thinks Asterius is a cutie?

#

He’s so sweet to us

opal oar
#

he's an angel id trust him with my life

half zephyr
grand crystal
#

he a goob boy

deep parrot
#

he is amazing
I wouldn't call him a cutie

grand crystal
#

i misspelled good but oh well

deep parrot
#

but also I'm basically lesbian lol

half zephyr
#

I’m ace

opal oar
#

you know that meme that's like "Boy, baby boy"

half zephyr
#

I just think cute things be cute

opal oar
#

and then the other picutre is "evil"

deep parrot
#

I'm ace, I'm a bambi lesbian

opal oar
#

thats my entire thought process walking into the stadium

#

what's a bambi lesbian?

deep parrot
#

aesthetic attraction is thinking stuff is cute

grand crystal
half zephyr
deep parrot
half zephyr
#

I just wanna be alone

opal oar
#

Huh, good to know! never heard that term before

half zephyr
deep parrot
#

basically any ace lesbian is generally a bambi lesbian

opal oar
#

tho i would argue wanting a sexual relationship isnt necessarily unwholesome

deep parrot
half zephyr
#

I’d be what you call aroace I guess

deep parrot
#

I'm actually also aroace
I am just aesthetically attracted
but I desire cuddles

half zephyr
#

I don’t hehe

#

But here

half zephyr
#

I love giving virtual hugs hehe

#

But I hate human contact

#

Makes my skin crawl

grand crystal
#

mood

half zephyr
#

I really want an asterius plushie tho

deep parrot
#

I love human contact that isn't from my family

narrow hemlock
half zephyr
#

He’s got that plushie look

deep parrot
#

sorry

opal oar
#

sorry!

narrow hemlock
#

blushu 👍

half zephyr
#

Then again I also want a Theseus plushie hehe

opal oar
#

Is theseus actually hard to hit or am i just bad @ it

half zephyr
#

With a chariot he can be placed in & a mask you can put on

#

Just

#

Plushies plz

half zephyr
deep parrot
#

I hate shield enemies

half zephyr
#

He blocks a lot

opal oar
#

regular

deep parrot
#

like dude just let me hit your face

grand crystal
opal oar
#

I was born without the ability to understand block mechanics

half zephyr
#

They’re not that bad

#

Just dash & hit the back

opal oar
#

doing them or fighting them

grand crystal
#

he turns around an awful lot tho

half zephyr
#

Theseus is just useless

#

Great fun, but useless

#

I love him

#

He reminds me so much of my cat sometimes

grand crystal
#

i just hate theseus with a burning passion

#

like

half zephyr
#

That’s ok

grand crystal
#

6/32 and my 40 and 45 heat runs

half zephyr
#

I can love him enough for both of us

grand crystal
#

ive grown to hate him

half zephyr
unborn remnant
#

Theseus is not based

#

good writing though

deep parrot
#

theseus is the equivalent of a sewage drainage pipe

half zephyr
#

No, he’s an angry kitten

grand crystal
#

like

deep parrot
#

his head is soooo stuck far up his ass

half zephyr
#

Stubborn, thinks he’s the greatest at all times & that everyone should obey him, and he gets angry for no reason

grand crystal
#

my opinion of theseus swaps from "he sucks" to "aww lil baby"

#

like when you get asterius' autograph

#

it just made me want to hug theseus

half zephyr
grand crystal
#

well you see

grand crystal
#

i dont like most cats

half zephyr
grand crystal
#

and theseus is one of those cats

half zephyr
#

Well, all cats love me

grand crystal
#

they never let me pet them ;w;

half zephyr
#

Every cat is a tsundere

#

Plus when you get a cat to trust & love you, that’s when you know you’ve earned it

grand crystal
#

a cat has never done that before for me ;w;

half zephyr
#

Sad

grand crystal
#

like yea cats are cute

#

and lil beans

#

but they never like me :<

#

like it took several years for my moms cat to even let me pet them

half zephyr
#

Guess Theseus is like your moms cat then hehe

grand crystal
toxic bear
#

Beat Hades god of the dead for the first time last night

grand crystal
#

🥳

toxic bear
#

Lol It was in pure rougelight fashion. 1 Am, I had no intention or even thought I could get past thesus and just wanted to try another weapon real quick. Slowly but surely I find Im actually doing pretty nice, getting an amazing Bow build.

grand crystal
#

now do it again lol

#

BOW+

toxic bear
#

Beat hades with 2 health lol

grand crystal
#

BECOME MEMBER OF BOW GANG

toxic bear
#

I reaaaally like bow

#

Was honestly surprised

grand crystal
#

yea bow is super fun

#

and also just a great weapon

toxic bear
#

Especially with some good deadelas upgrades

#

So far I Really like Fists, Bow, Spear, Gun.

Meh on Sword

And I just flat out dont like the shield

grand crystal
#

lol me too ngl

toxic bear
#

I really like how they are setting up zagerous to a classic greek fate. Destined to fight his way out of tartarus just to talk to his mother for a day and then die

#

Then repeat

#

Classic greek myth feeling

#

As for Each god and their boons.

grand crystal
#

more like 5 minutes

toxic bear
#

So far im at:

S tier - Ares, Artemis, Demeter, Dadelous
A Tier - Dionysous, Zeus, Poseidon, Chaos
Meh Tier - Aphrodite, Hermes

#

I really like dionysous for his Healing at fountains, and nectar. Zues and Poseidon just give great damage boons. And chaos due to its nature is almost always worth it

#

I dont like weak and hermes upgrades dont feel as impactful

hardy arrow
#

@toxic bear the Hermes effects are not as obvious but they're there. In my permanent record, Greatest Reflex is far and away my #1 most cleared boon.

toxic bear
#

Which one is that again? still attaching the names to their effects

hardy arrow
#

Extra dashes

toxic bear
#

Ohh yes

#

Yeah that can be nice especially with a dash boon

#

Strongest call so far is easily zueses lighting, I was shocked by how much damage it did to bosses.

#

I do not like Blade edges

#

But honestly.. Its just an amazing game.

The gamplay is top notch and addictive as heck. But what really makes it so good is the engaging story and dialouge

#

Deadcells just didnt have that level of connection with the player

#

Heck.. I look forward to dying half the time. Thats a damn impressive feat to accomplish

half zephyr
toxic bear
#

Not in depth, but I remember being annoyed that when I used her call, I couldnt stop myself from attacking them and ruining it

half zephyr
#

Max gauge Aphrodite is amazing on bosses

toxic bear
#

oh max guage

half zephyr
#

Especially hades

#

Ye

#

Cuz it staggers & can stun them

toxic bear
#

Ah, I use the smaller ones

#

Im impatient

half zephyr
#

For hades it cancels lasers

#

He just stands there spinning but no lasers

toxic bear
#

Ohhh that does sound helpful actually. I was almost scared in his 2nd form

half zephyr
#

Free to attack

toxic bear
#

Thankfully I killed him just before he killed me

#

Ill add it to my TTL

#

"To try list"

half zephyr
toxic bear
#

Oooh dont tell me

#

I love the duo surprises

ionic trail
#

BOW GANG

half zephyr
#

Ok then

toxic bear
#

What a great addition

#

Curious. What is considered the best weapon in the game ?

#

Im sure there is a general consensus

grand crystal
#

most people say eris rail/rama bow

#

zeus shield and beo shield are also up there

toxic bear
#

Yeah that makes sense

#

Bow and rail are monsters from range

grand crystal
#

mhm

#

and rama is stupid good

half zephyr
toxic bear
#

So..I literally just got the heat mechanic. I have a few questions

#

I am guessing that the way it works is I complete a run with one change in heat to make it full meter, then It needs more changes for the next round and so farth

#

orth

half zephyr
#

You can do any heat at any time

toxic bear
#

Also, does heat impact the story? Lets say that I decide i dont want the heat rewards and do many more runs just on normal to the surfacae

half zephyr
#

But if you exceed the gauge you don’t get bounties for that heat lvl

#

But instead for your next at the bottom

toxic bear
#

Does my story lose anything that it would have gained otherwise from using heat?

grand crystal
#

heat is just for bounties and difficulty

half zephyr
#

So if you’ve done 2 heat & you jump to 10, you’ll still get reward for heat 3

grand crystal
#

you can either play with it minimally or be a masochist like me and play on 45

toxic bear
#

Ok got it thanks

half zephyr
grand crystal
#

rewards go by each individual heat and going too high wont mess with anything

toxic bear
#

How good are the rewards?

grand crystal
#

more blood :/

toxic bear
#

Its vague and doesnt specify

grand crystal
#

its bounty refreshes

toxic bear
#

oh that is good

half zephyr
#

Huh

#

It shows

#

On the side

toxic bear
#

It does? huh

half zephyr
#

You get reward from bosses again

#

Instead of darkness

grand crystal
#

yea its just bounties but again

#

meg and hades will give blood

#

hydra diamond

#

and champions ambro

half zephyr
#

Mhmm

#

That’s it

toxic bear
#

Makes sense. ok thanks!

grand crystal
#

(also i discovered last night that you cant use battie on any of the furies :3)

half zephyr
#

Well ye

#

They might hate each other, but that doesn’t mean they’ll fight

grand crystal
#

hehe yea

#

but it just reinforces why mort is better

#

since than will kill any of em :3

grand crystal
#

hehe im only like 2 dialogue instances ahead of you and its very funny

deep parrot
#

literally I only want tisiphony rn so I can progress this

#

and tisiphony is my least fav to fight combat wise

grand crystal
#

i hate alecto

deep parrot
#

easiest to hardest imo is meg>alecto>tisiphony

#

they're all easy af

#

but like
meg is easier

#

lmao

grand crystal
#

yeaa meg is a cakewalk

half zephyr
#

Tisiphone is easiest for me

grand crystal
#

alecto i just dont like how she is

#

projectiles coming from normal attacks

#

rage seems really arbitrary

half zephyr
#

Since I mostly melee & the room getting smaller just makes it easier

#

Plus dash dmg is easy when it’s a tiny room

deep parrot
#

eh idc about room size

grand crystal
#

tis imo also has some of the most easy animations to read

#

alecto i feel like is too mixed up for me to easily do the fight without taking damage

deep parrot
#

is it just me or are literally more than half the bow hammers detrimental
even the ones that sound like they're better

grand crystal
#

thats

#

just wrong

#

bow hammers are some of the best in the game

deep parrot
#

lmao

grand crystal
#

at least the most influential

deep parrot
#

some are good

grand crystal
#

like twin/triple is crazy

#

point blank is really good

deep parrot
#

but like
some sound good
but are just really bad

grand crystal
#

all special ones are really good

#

explosive shot is garbage :3

deep parrot
grand crystal
#

charged volley is always nice

#

and concentrated is also nice since you generally shotgun and hit with almost all of em

deep parrot
#

I literally only use zag special if either, I have DC on, or if I have special deflect

#

cuz zag bow special is garbage

half zephyr
#

Just wait

grand crystal
#

i use special for shotgunning since its very stronk

half zephyr
#

He’ll say something about zag aspect soon

grand crystal
deep parrot
#

you have to be literally inside of the enemy for them to all hit tho

grand crystal
#

just now its a spread and not focused like chiron

grand crystal
deep parrot
grand crystal
#

it also staggers them so its relatively safe

#

also zag bow is gross

half zephyr
#

Zag special is shotgun

deep parrot
half zephyr
#

Great at close range, too much spread at distance

grand crystal
#

hehe lol

half zephyr
#

But still bow

grand crystal
#

zag bow 🤮

deep parrot
#

also I will point out that with even fists you don't have to be that close

half zephyr
#

Then what’s the point of fists

grand crystal
deep parrot
#

literally only bow special requires you to be literally in the same spot as the enemy

grand crystal
#

people play triple + point blank for rama

#

you get in them, and kill them

#

i play triple + point blank for zag bow too

deep parrot
#

also I prefer being farther away

grand crystal
#

its not hard to pull off

deep parrot
#

lmao

#

don't give me a boon and I'd be not standing still 5head

#

tfw you steal charon's gold cuz you're like "screw this run this'll suicide quickly" then you win

#

I think I learned how to dodge charon's sweep attack
just be behind him 5head

grand crystal
#

yea charon fight is easy

#

i did it hitless last night with a fun hestia build :3

deep parrot
#

why the need to append fun to the beginning?
fun is implied

#

it's hestia

grand crystal
#

hehe hestia is my brain off weapon

#

i got like heart rend and stuff

#

very fun

#

also meg has dialogue if you summon her in the charon fight and i love it

#

shes just like "youre making me fight charon?"

#

and im like "ye, need that 2.5k damage and 20% off"

deep parrot
#

can she instakill a phase?

grand crystal
#

ppfffttt no

#

charon is too chunky

deep parrot
#

big sad

surreal condor
#

Heh, I still haven't won the Hermes bet, but thats just cuz I can't find the fight anymore

grand crystal
#

i had a crazy rama build that was hitting 2k and it took me 30 seconds to beat him

deep parrot
#

I have yet to get the hermes bet

grand crystal
#

its all random so :/

surreal condor
#

I have the worst luck in this game ;-;

#

Curse the fates