#h1-discussion

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runic parrot
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he speaks. he says "..."

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that's speech

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it's boulderish, zag wouldn't understand

fierce canyon
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True

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It's a highly sophisticated form of sign language that takes years of intense study to understand

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On a separate topic - this might have been answered already, I'm new here sorry - does anyone know if there's plans to be able to reroll hammer upgrades? Or would that be too op?

flat halo
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Which weapon should I upgrade first

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Chaos - Eris - Dementer - Achilles - Nemesis

runic parrot
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well which one do you like using more

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id personally go for eris or demeter but only because i like them

copper canopy
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@flat halo Do what I do and hoard so you can upgrade them all at once.

runic parrot
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i was too excited with going higher and higher heat to do that.

copper canopy
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Well when I first unlocked aspects, I had enough to unlock them all and fully upgrade the default aspect

coarse imp
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The Nemesis sword with a 'Exit Wounds' boon is just fantastic.

copper canopy
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Then I eventually got enough to upgrade the hidden aspects fully

copper canopy
coarse imp
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So I'd upgraded Nemesis first.

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Oh, Poseidon.

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No. Yea, I meant Poseidon, hahaha.

runic parrot
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poseidon is great.

copper canopy
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Nemesis is fun though, peppering in the occasional special and getting crits.

runic parrot
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i am the number one poseidon sword fan

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true shot exit wounds and fully loaded, go to town on bosses

coarse imp
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Nemesis is the one that gives a Crit chance after specials, that's right.

craggy barn
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get pressure points if you can

copper canopy
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Why do you hate the hidden rail? I don’t love it, but I don’t hate it.

runic parrot
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because i did 6 runs with the special only with it

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it was painful.

coarse imp
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That's mean.

copper canopy
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Well yeah, why would you do that?

flat halo
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I mean, I intend to fully upgrade 1 of them immediatley

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So I’m debating which

runic parrot
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welll, early game was painful. melted through elysium and Styx though

copper canopy
flat halo
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Nah

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I got Chiron fully upgraded

copper canopy
flat halo
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What next?

runic parrot
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its one of my go tos

flat halo
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The aspects I named are the ones I’m planning on using a while

loud lintel
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yeah nemesis is just a straight upgrade to zag aspect imo

copper canopy
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Hidden rail confuses me because the previous owner is from a different religion

runic parrot
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id pick eris if you like ranged weapon

loud lintel
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eris is one of the most powerful weapons imo

runic parrot
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though the playstyle is admittedly very different from chiron.

loud lintel
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in terms of objective damage output

copper canopy
fierce canyon
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Nemesis or Chaos in my opinion

craggy barn
loud lintel
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dash strikes are the 'best' (in terms of dps/safety) way to play sword though and zag's bonuses dont really help with that

copper canopy
coarse imp
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It took me an age to get past Theseus and Asterius. It was a clusterfrick of a mess the first few times... until I learned Asterius is much easier to deal with first. Lord.

loud lintel
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while nemesis fits the style perfectly

fierce canyon
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I feel that Welshy

loud lintel
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so its in the same boat as hidden rail i think?

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though admittedly i dont know much about that religion

copper canopy
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Max Zag Sword + Epic Swift Strike + Flurry Strike + Cursed Blade + Curse of Agony + Dire Misfortune + Impending Doom

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It’s insane how fast it attacked

craggy barn
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might as well use divine strike or deadly strike

copper canopy
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For kicks I purposely got poisoned and was able to heal faster than it poisoned me.

hollow hawk
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zag sword + flurry strike

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is just

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insane, to say the least

copper canopy
hollow hawk
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haelian also had a similar build in one of his vids, flurry slash + cursed slash

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doom isnt a good attack boon for sword tbh

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even if you stack it

copper canopy
hollow hawk
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arty wouldve been best with your build

strong ivy
hollow hawk
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or even something like zeus, dio etc

hollow hawk
copper canopy
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That or what I did

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The doom numbers were in the 600s

strong ivy
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also doom with crits is

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crazy

hollow hawk
copper canopy
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But yes I agree normally it isn’t good

hollow hawk
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unless you one tap all the enemies in the room then wait for them to die automatically

strong ivy
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Doom on its own isnt that great

copper canopy
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Try the build and come back to me

strong ivy
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I actually wanna make a build that relies on the aphro/ares duo boon

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doom hits multiple times

copper canopy
strong ivy
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does it?

copper canopy
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The description doesn’t list that and I was disappointed

strong ivy
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i was thinking it'd work with chiron and ME

copper canopy
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Yes, each additional automatic doom strike does 50% damage of the last one.

hollow hawk
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chiron ME on itself isnt that bad actually

strong ivy
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yeah and with the multiple doom strikes it might work

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i mighg check but im super unlucky so

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might not get it

copper canopy
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Do my build

strong ivy
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especially since its two duos

hollow hawk
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flurry slash and epic hermes attack speed

copper canopy
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True, mostly because the Daedalus hammer upgrades

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Cursed blade was also there

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Which is why ME doesn’t work as well with it, because you need to keep attacking at all times

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I could heal like 10 health per second though

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And like I said earlier, I healed faster than poison damaged me

strong ivy
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flurry slash and cursed slash feel impossible to get together

copper canopy
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Well then I guess you’ll have to take my word for it then~

strong ivy
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i wont say no though

copper canopy
hollow hawk
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they are possible like for the in game logic

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but luck wise its hard

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unless you seed/route the run

copper canopy
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To make a long story short; doom isn’t usually good on attack outside ME, but it was good with my build.

craggy barn
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chiron is the only time ME actually works well with dire misfortune lol

trail pendant
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just got the fish dialogue with Hades

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awesome

brisk trail
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I got hades on switch yesterday morning :3 was a early access backer for pc but couldn't resist cause the cloud save

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Way comfier

half zephyr
naive falcon
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Hi everyone, I cleared all the Fated List of Minor Prophecies. I have no more Prophecies to unlock, and I'm about at 80 runs by now. I compared my list to the one of the Wiki, just to make sure I didn't miss anything, and I did:

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  • Sea-God's Spite (Vanquish 'Extreme Measures' Theseus, then seek Poseidon)
  • Customer Loyality (The son of the god of the dead shall someday purchase each of the various goods sometimes offered in the Well of Charon).
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I already got Theseus win with Extreme Measures.

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I'm not sure about Customer Loyality. Maybe I didn't buy all Charon has to offer? I'm not sure. But anyhow - shouldn't this one be showing with check-list like most of the Prophecies of this style?

craggy barn
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touch of styx is only obtainable if you're using stubborn defiance if that helps

half zephyr
flat halo
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SERIOUSLY

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Have you guys ever won

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With stubborn defiance, heal on darkness and dash attack damage (1 dash)

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I’m trying to win a run with alternate mirrors to get achievement

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And it’s impossible even on no heat lol

hollow hawk
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dont do it all at once lmaoo

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do one thing at a time

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especially with things like stubborn defiance and 1 dash, and HC

craggy barn
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ruthless reflex works well on fists

manic moat
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ruthless best works with gilgamesh fists

flat halo
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Okie

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And yeah lol

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Doing them all at once is whack

upper mesa
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Pulling off stubborn defiance takes a lot more experience to do quickly

craggy barn
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common trick with stubborn defiance that if your hp is below 30% you can kill yourself with a trap to heal some back

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and getting touch of styx from patty is a must

hollow hawk
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wait wtf

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i thought knockback didnt work against bosses?

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but i have chiron poseidon special and its knocking meg back

upper mesa
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The biggest help is doing it once you're able to consistently defeat all the bosses without losing DD - it's a bit farther than you need to go, but it helps

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Knockback effects are just greatly reduced

hollow hawk
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these dont seem greatly reduced lol

craggy barn
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it does but it's just very weak on bosses

brazen lagoon
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It barely works on hades

hollow hawk
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huh

brisk trail
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Man i got the upgrade with the sword where u ger 2 hp every hit but have 60% hp and died in styx

flat halo
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So stubborn defiance versus 1 dodge

hollow hawk
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maybe its because chiron has 8 knockbacks on the special

flat halo
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Which is harder

brazen lagoon
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And doesn't work at all on lernie

upper mesa
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When you have very high rate of knockback it affects some of them

craggy barn
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apparently there are cases where knockback effects simply don't apply, such as with dracons who are totally immune to knockback

hollow hawk
hollow hawk
craggy barn
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knockback "effects" still apply to lernie i think but to dracons they just don't work at all

hollow hawk
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you should only really get it if you have extra attack speed

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from zag sword, hermes, or flurry slash

brisk trail
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Lol im not a noob

brazen lagoon
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Lol ok

brisk trail
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That could be really powerful im i played right

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It was the poison in Styx that got me

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Saying that upgrade is a "noob trap" is simply stupid sorry lol

hollow hawk
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it is

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noob trap as in, it sounds good but isnt that good

flat halo
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So what are the noob traps

brisk trail
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Nah i just wasnt careful around the poison

flat halo
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So I can take them as soon as possible

brisk trail
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It was good

flat halo
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For achievement

brisk trail
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It is a good upgrade idc if u dont like it lol

hollow hawk
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thats your opinion

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🤷‍♂️

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for most people it isnt that good

brisk trail
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More challenging too cause sword requires u to actually avoid stuff

hollow hawk
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unless, again, you have extra attack speed

upper mesa
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It's a meme build with flurry slash

brisk trail
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Regaining health on hit is one of the best upgrades imo

brazen lagoon
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Not too good against harder hitting enemies

brisk trail
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Lifesteal mechanics are my fave thing in diablo like games

upper mesa
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And it's just the worst possible thing on the sword's fourth aspect

manic moat
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can you even get it on the fourth

upper mesa
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Yep

brisk trail
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Its fun

upper mesa
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Pretty sure it's still available

scarlet gull
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i have severely underestimated how good triple shot can be

upper mesa
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No clue why

brazen lagoon
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Took cursed slash on 4th aspect once

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Do not recommend

brisk trail
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Yee triple shot with doom

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So much dmg

hollow hawk
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dash nova is also available as a sword hammer on all aspects

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no one, to this date, knows why

brisk trail
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Ive been trying to avoid doom builds tho its too easy

scarlet gull
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triple shot with point blank actually still works well too

upper mesa
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The sword's hammer pool is kinda hit and miss

scarlet gull
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^

hollow hawk
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as someone wise once said, remove half of sword's hammer pool and it will become a much better weapon

flat halo
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So sword hammer pool is bad?

brazen lagoon
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Some of them are just very mediocre

brisk trail
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Its insane how much they added to the game tho when i first backed it u could only beat the hydra then it was over

upper mesa
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Some are still quite good, but a lot aren't

flat halo
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So will devs fix it up

brazen lagoon
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No fixing needed

brisk trail
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I hope they keep adding more

manic moat
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rail hammers 😍
sword hammers 😠

brazen lagoon
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It is how it is

brisk trail
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I wish they would add more to pyre too

flat halo
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Nah

brisk trail
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I platted Pyre tho

neon kelp
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this game doesnt have magic related wep right , im new

flat halo
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Anyway, what would you guys suggest regarding sword hammers

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And no magic

neon kelp
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rogulike game usually doesnt come with magic ?

hollow hawk
brisk trail
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How do u get a hammer?

hollow hawk
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double edge is the best sword hammer

flat halo
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There is a form of enchantment though

hollow hawk
flat halo
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Giving your weapon lightning power

hollow hawk
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are a room reward in the game

flat halo
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Or water power, etc

upper mesa
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They seem a lot more likely to regroup at some point and figure out their next project, it hasn't looked like they're planning to keep hades on content updates

flat halo
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Those are technically magic

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I do think they should get on with their project

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But Hades is kinda infinite content kind of game

upper mesa
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The "Developing Hell" series by NoClip is good to watch for their dev process and they mention stuff like that

flat halo
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And tuning up 1 aspect of the game (hammer sword) may make the game more permanent

brisk trail
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I just love supergiant games

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Still need to beat transistor tho

neon kelp
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what kind of roguelike game has magic

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like wizard

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and etc

hollow hawk
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well, not this one

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does gungeon have magic? i dont think it does

upper mesa
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Wizard of Legend

scarlet gull
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i mean like what do you count as magic

hollow hawk
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risk of rain also doesnt iirc

neon kelp
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can use spell

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fireball

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ice

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etc

scarlet gull
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like depending on your definition the entirety of slay the spire is magic

hollow hawk
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fire, ice etc are all things in this game too

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they are status curses

neon kelp
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i see

hollow hawk
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again, fiction and magic are different things

neon kelp
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i think its more like

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able to cast spell

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not the zeus thunder posaidon water thing

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basically harry potter

upper mesa
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Only one I can really think of then is wizard of legend

hollow hawk
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well this is a greek mythology game

neon kelp
hollow hawk
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also, #video-games is the channel youre looking for to discuss other games

neon kelp
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👍

scarlet gull
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i mean like would you count the cast as magic

craggy barn
flat halo
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It’s unfortunate

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So let’s air out all the grievances related to gameplay

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Anything else needs revising

hollow hawk
swift mist
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im using the extreme measures in the elesium boss fight and theseus is such a manchild LMAO

fallow remnant
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theseus is the only reason i haven’t beaten hades yet

rotund igloo
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What about the final boss?

swift mist
fallow remnant
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the shield mixed with all the gods

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i’ve beat it once without dying but on a terrible run where i had already lost 2 DDs

swift mist
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dash around and target him inbetween the god attacks, also when he first summons the gods he isnt holding his shield up so hes rly vulnerable for like 10 seconds

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just dash through him, do a 180 and attack his back

rotund igloo
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Kill bull first. Every time Theseus attacks, he'll turn his back on you and start walking away, then you can take this chance to attack him.
His god power AOEs have a delay, just dont stay in the circles too long and you'll be fine.

swift mist
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keep dashing through him

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and yeah for the Minotaur part stay behind the pillars to dodge theseus's spear and dodging minotaur's attacks isnt too hard, just time your dashes

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he telegraphs his attacks for a while, hes p easily dodgeable

past mirage
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The most hilarious way to deal with the initial god summon (the homing attack, not the later circles) is to bring Skelly. While he absorbs all the god attacks, you have plenty of time to take a huge chunk out of Theseus' health, or even outright kill him.

swift mist
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lmao

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even without the skelly thing, dodging back and forth through him while attacking him is enough to avoid the initial god attack and get a chunk out of him

tight cave
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Also, if RNGsus is on your side get a good Aid boon and Hermes' Quick Favor, and activate Greater Call as soon as that last phase starts and he's not impervious. If you've levelled the Aid up enough it can absolutely destroy him.

swift mist
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yeah if you have calls save them for certain phases that you get hit the most on

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dont activate them as soon as theyre available

tight cave
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I remember the first time I used Artemis' call on the Hydra after killing all the heads for the second time, literally killed it in the hissing animation. Felt like a god.

swift mist
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i remember in some of my first runs i had artermis's call and the arrow literally went to some background enemy instead of hades like 2 times in a row

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none of them got him

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wouldve took around half of a health bar off him if they hit

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artemis's call is powerful af but its annoying, you gotta time it and make sure they arent gonna shield and that there arent any enemies that it could go to instead of the boss

unborn remnant
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Prioritize the bull, just spam all your damage into him

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once he's gone, dash in to hit theseus, and dash out after

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you can dash past his projectile attack if you time it right

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If you have privileged status + aphrodite call, you can kill his second phase in 1 hit

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just wait for him to call on the god

hollow hawk
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you should also use the pillar things

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stand behind them when he uses his spear

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when he uses his call, dash the circles and dont attack him

unborn remnant
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yeah I forgot about that part

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Theseus is completely vulnerable during the first god summon though

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his shield doesnt even work

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at least to me, that seems like a primary moment to just start hitting him if you have the health to spare

runic parrot
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esp if you have an artemis call at full charge

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whooosh

rich acorn
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What is aphro call?

rotund igloo
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Charm enemy, only does damage at max call

rich acorn
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very hit or miss it seems

rotund igloo
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yeah, top players say its bad

outer dew
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Its fun but pretty bad

hollow hawk
hollow hawk
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it doesnt last long enough for enemies to hit each other

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its more of a glorified stun lock

flat halo
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Question

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Which is harder

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Clearing with stubborn defiance

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Or the one dodge

outer dew
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You can get dashes from hermes

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Wait till you do a mirroless run

hollow hawk
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and itll be easy

loud lintel
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Crush Shot/Hera bow interaction acting up again :/

fallow remnant
tight cave
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Theseus and Asterius are the reason why I switch to the Evergreen Acorn after Asphodel. Really helps to be basically impervious for a few hits.

fallow remnant
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how many attempts is the average for beating hades?

unborn remnant
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or use Athena builds for extra dds when you accept some of her boons

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It took me something like 30-40 runs to beat the final boss for the first time

fallow remnant
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in on 31

unborn remnant
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dont worry about where you stack up compared to others

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just keep upgrading your mirror and you'll get it

fallow remnant
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i’ve got to the second phase once

unborn remnant
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I found the only thing I needed was a 3rd dd

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after I got that I could get there consistently

tight cave
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I think I got it in 27/28, but that's considering I enabled God Mode for the last two attempts it took.

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Also yeah, getting a third DD makes a huge difference.

fallow remnant
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i dont lose any dds until asterius and theseus

unborn remnant
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Make sure you grab keys to expand the mirror

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You also might want to reconsider your build

tight cave
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What keepsakes do you usually use, Griefy?

unborn remnant
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there are some times when you genuinely dont need to put something on a cast, special, attack etc

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depends on the build

fallow remnant
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i used to start of with athena for Tartarus and switch to collar for Asphodel, Elysium and Styx but now I just use collar bc I need to learn not to rely on divine dash, but I could probably use better

tight cave
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If you're struggling with bosses I'd recommend the Evergreen Acorn (from Eurydice)

fallow remnant
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Yeah I have it

unborn remnant
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For me, its:
Tartarus - Usually the keepsake I need to start a build
Asphodel - Either the 2nd keepsake for a build or Charon's Hourglass, maybe Chaos keepsake
Elysium - Hourglass, postgame keepsake
Styx - Acorn

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@fallow remnant maybe you need to reconsider your build

tight cave
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The Chaos keepsake is good. I always find I equip it before a run starts, no Chaos gates appear in Tartarus, then I equip another keepsake and suddenly they're popping up all over the place.

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Thanks Chaos, real funny.

unborn remnant
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Like if you're running a build that goes all in on attack, with a special for duos and a good dash, why bother putting a boon on cast?

wise sparrow
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so other gods wont offer cast

unborn remnant
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reroll

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or grab passives

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unless you literally dont have a choice

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just try not to take a boon that actively hurts your build

fallow remnant
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tbf i take poseidon cast pretty much every time just because i find it fun

unborn remnant
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You could try and find a build around that then

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Zeus cast is also great

fallow remnant
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i try to get sea storm when i do get it

pearl saddle
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If ur having trouble with theseus or ||hades|| then try using tracking ares cast

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With consecutive hit plus preferably

lime rose
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Hunting blades is fantastic

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Hunting blades+vicious cycle=kill everything by just dashing and casting

unborn remnant
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You can always go for the old reliable if you really want a clear

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Eris Rail with Zeus Attack

brisk trail
copper canopy
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Sea Storm is the one true rail attack

craggy barn
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it's weird how rarely the og lernie appears after you've killed her once i think

void ginkgo
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hah so the last entry in the <@&737365219982049411> has a clear date of 1996 🙂

unborn remnant
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uh oh thats a ping

fading gazelle
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Oh no

sacred dagger
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KEKPing oh

weary urchin
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lol

nova quartz
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👀

rigid drum
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insert oh no

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boom bandwagon

weary urchin
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pinged half the server

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pog

craggy barn
shadow coral
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tmtFLEXLferretMADtmtFLEXR RAAAAAA!

high island
rigid reef
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Well, there goes the great man.

Fs in chat for the poor soul on their way to ban for mass ping.

high island
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It's the mods' fault for allowing anyone to ping the role instead of just me tbf lol.

craggy barn
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how did people manage to deal with 120 heat back in the day

prisma wind
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The scaling was different

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120 roughly equals 32

craggy barn
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watching one of tailesque's old 120 heat runs right now and holy hell that skullcrusher took a long time to kill

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imagine that but with tight deadline on

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tail himself told me that heat numbers were more inflated i'm just more concerned that enemies not only hit like trucks but took punishment way too well

narrow hemlock
high island
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So the admins' fault, then. dusa

swift mist
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theseus making fun of me hiding behind the pillars while he's using a shield what

loud lintel
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cant decide if i like demeter on special more than arty+heart rend

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on one hand, bigger % & chill stack explosion boon

barren marlin
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Hi everyone, i'm trying to get the hidden aspect of fists. I read that i have to talk to asterius twice, one with fists equipped once and an another one without necessarily fists equipped.
I talked to him the first time and i got the line mentioning the fists.
I talked to him again but with the arc and he didn't mention the hidden aspect. He talked about me beating the champion.

So i have doubt, have i to talk to him with fists equipped the second time or i just keep running and talking to him ?

loud lintel
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on the other hand, CRITS

loud lintel
barren marlin
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Yes. The hidden aspect of fists is my last one

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Do you got it ?

loud lintel
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i believe the way dialogue works in this game is that once you meet the prerequisites for an option, it gets added to the pool

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so if youre not getting the dialogue yet, you just gotta keep running it

narrow hemlock
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that's roughly how it works, yes

barren marlin
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Mmh ok i see. So i'll keep running. Asterius is tricky to get him in a run. I keep facing the butterfly enemy

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Like 5-6 runs, only fight him once

upper mesa
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That's interesting, I feel like I fight asterius more often, small-set randomness is fun

manic bobcat
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Who dares pinging me?

hollow mantle
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I just wanna say, I spent the last few years chasing that BotW high, nothing that came out felt quite as good as the exquite balance of wonder and fear that gliding across the forests and fields, looking for mushrooms and adventure engendered.
I'm gonna spend the next few years chasing this Hades high. The writing, the outstanding sound design, the tight controls, the art that's just so readable at a glance, the replayability - it's a solid 99% game for me and I'm glad to have found it. Kudos, Supergiant.

winter harbor
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I like the synergies you can get

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And it's a rare roguelite that actually has a story

ripe sun
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Is there a reason that my mods would have stopped working after this latest patch?

stone carbon
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It's been forever since I've played a game like this (Diablo II is the closest), and I know I generally suck at them. (More than 100 runs before my first clear, I'm in the 140s now and have only cleared twice). Should I just give in and turn on God mode, or keep chipping away at it? (I'm loving the story lines and characters, hate Asphodel, gotten the Megaera and Artemis bonds)

half zephyr
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god mode doesn't make the game easier as such.. just makes you a bit more durable =w=

winter harbor
#

Still, more margin of error for learning enemy patterns

half zephyr
#

true

winter harbor
#

and if you have trouble avoiding projectiles athena's dash is the best

half zephyr
#

athena in general is best

stone carbon
#

That is my usual problem - taking too much damage. If I bulk up on lives and HP I do better.

#

My second escape (yesterday...) had athena's dash.

half zephyr
#

I love athena/zeus combo or athena/ares

stone carbon
#

This was athena/ares

half zephyr
#

and demeter anything

#

chill is epic

#

so many things to play with \0/

stone carbon
#

I picked up a cheap logitech controller after getting tired of having to always hit two keys to move in the direction I wanted.

hollow mantle
#

I played a good 100 runs with God Mode on (the base game being too difficult for me, tbh, and I was pretty disheartened with Bastion), and now I do pretty well with it off (I started a fresh save, about 80 runs in at this point), having learned a lot about the patterns and timing of the enemies. I probably beat Hades himself half the normal runs now.

half zephyr
#

aah, I'm on switch =w=

#

sometimes the combination of boons I have make me wonder wth is happening on screen as I dash around

outer dew
#

I dont notice any lag on my switch

half zephyr
#

me neither 😄

#

I just have so many odd boons that there's so much happening my eyes can't keep up

hollow mantle
#

Me either, but I use the Switch Pro controller (highly recommended if the Joy-Con drift problem frustrates you)

stone carbon
#

Yeah - definitely loving the game - all the options are awesome. Feel like I should be doing better, esp after seeing some of the runs folks are doing.

hollow mantle
#

@stone carbon have you seen the "beat the game on run 1" videos? That's just unthinkable skill levels to me.

half zephyr
#

I dun have drift on my current cons

#

thankfully

hollow mantle
#

lucky- I've got three sets and can't use any of them.

stone carbon
#

Haven't gone looking for them - would probably be depressed to see them 🙂 I don't think I made it to Meg on my first run. ||The first time I thought I beat Hades was a killer - yeah didn't make through the second round||

opaque socket
#

I'm so obsessed with this game I tried playing it on my surface pro

#

it...kind of worked?

copper canopy
craggy barn
#

finally finished 32 heat with all weapons

austere jacinth
#

Hermes is my fave~

#

Oh wow, congrats, @craggy barn

copper canopy
#

Taking into account both their boons and them as a character, my favorite boon-giving gods are probably Hermes, Artemis, Chaos, and ||Demeter||

hollow mantle
#

32 heat?! I think I've done 10 with god mode on, mad congrats.

craggy barn
austere jacinth
#

Hermes, Ares, Aphro, and Dio for me.

sullen oar
#

God Mode saved me on 32 heat haha

#

I do want to beat it without one day 🙏

craggy barn
#

i still have prophecies, furnishings and upgrading all the aspects

#

there's also the badges and themes but... no thanks

hollow mantle
#

I can beat the game on heat like...3, without god mode.

#

(this game does such a great job teaching you how to play, though!)

stone carbon
#

Very true. Though I'm a slow learner 😆

wild solar
#

Good afternoon everyone!

#

I just joined the server because I had a question

#

Sometimes the Fury sisters give me 50 Darkness when I beat them, and sometimes 60. What's up with that?

outer dew
#

Dark thirst on weapons

wild solar
#

Oh okay

#

I forgot about that

#

😅 My bad, sorry for the probably-dumb question

#

Also I just gotta say that I love this game. There aren't many games where at one point I won't turn off the sound and music to listen to my own music

But Hades is one of those games
Just an absolute musical masterpiece

#

I spend too long in Eurydice's chamber HC_comfy

half zephyr
strong ridge
#

hermes would use rapidash

tight cave
#

Greatest Reflex and Quick Favor are a must for me.

strong ivy
#

ironically, I thought Hermes had the worst boons to slowly becoming my fav

#

stuff like Rush Delivery and Quick reload help a LOT

graceful heron
#

Hi, im wondering if the effect of pierced butterfly still works after removing it? like run the first area and get some dmg then swap

winged wasp
#

Hello, im sorry but im pretty sure i fished more than 50 fish and still i cannot give (or i dont understand) how to give them to poseidon to unlock the 25fish contract

unreal shard
#

guys is there a way to know in which chamber is that thing to give to Cerberus
i've been playing for 6hours and i still stuck there :p

graceful heron
#

its usually the 2nd chamber

graceful heron
#

in my experience

strong ivy
#

but never in the first chamber

#

it's either the 2nd, 3rd, 4th or fifth

winged wasp
#

random but it does not takes more than 3 chamber

unreal shard
#

hmm imma take the 2nd one

narrow hemlock
graceful heron
#

thanks

strong ivy
narrow hemlock
#

you don't give them to poseidon, turn them in to the head chef

earnest flame
#

I've had the sack drop on the 4th choice a time or 2...😎

winged wasp
narrow hemlock
#

iirc the game only stores fish for a few runs if you don't turn them in but don't quote me on that

winged wasp
#

ok so i wasted almost 70 run of fish

tepid plover
#

Uhm

earnest flame
#

I think you lose the fish if you don't turn them in before starting your next run.

tepid plover
#

Thought you lost fish if you started a new run

winged wasp
#

i wanna die

strong ivy
#

i've turned in fish after like 3 runs

#

don't think i've ever lost fish..

tepid plover
#

Interesting

#

Are you keeping track

#

Are you sure you turned all of them from the 3 runs

winged wasp
#

mh ok i just trade all the fish

strong ivy
#

yes

#

i turned them in after 3 runs

winged wasp
#

turned out they were 46

strong ivy
#

and i'm pretty sure they were more than 3

tepid plover
earnest flame
#

I always turn my fish in after each run...

strong ivy
#

i could be wrong, but i remember not losing fish

strong ivy
tepid plover
#

If the player starts a new run without turning in the fish, the fish caught in previous run will not be lost up to one run.

#

Ok so is 1 run

#

They changed it

winged wasp
#

is there a sort of bug? coz i litterally just traded 46 fish and poseidon didnt care about. or mby i needed some nectar relationship with him

#

dunno

narrow hemlock
#

dialogue is not immediately reactive to your actions, that's not a bug. the dialogue works in that once the game sees you have completed x requirement for a specific piece of dialogue, it then has the chance to come up when you speak with someone

tepid plover
#

Welcome to the dialogue slot machine

narrow hemlock
#

i would only consider a potential bug if you're sure you met requirements but you're only getting recycled dialogue

#

otherwise the solution is typically just.. keep playing til it pops up

winged wasp
#

lol i traded again another 30+ fish

celest saddle
#

what is so good about athena's call compared to other calls? ares and posiden calls also turn you invincible and do damage too

winged wasp
#

so i was on 70 fish on total

strong ivy
celest saddle
#

ah cool

strong ivy
#

so if you're not too call dependent damage-wise, use athena's

narrow hemlock
#

thank you discord for not emoting that

winged wasp
#

appreciate the manual effort

tepid plover
#

😂

unreal shard
#

WOW i found that thing on the 5th room

#

lucky me

#

the game trollling me

narrow hemlock
#

well look on the bright side, more obols zagyay

unreal shard
#

facing hade for 2nd time any advice ? :p

tepid plover
#

Don't die

narrow hemlock
#

for zag "don't die" is actually the hardest advice in the world haha

lost citrus
shadow coral
#

...unless you're a speedrunner

undone moat
#

lol

earnest flame
#

If you're having trouble on Hades fight id suggest powering up god mode (if you haven't already maxed it out).

manic bobcat
#

If you use the bow and is offered Flurry Shot, take it. It makes it easy to stuff Hades' full of arrows whenever you are not dodging. Same with Adamant Rail and Rocket Launcher. Don't take any upgrades that decrease your dash (spear) or health (sword).
Generally the advice there is solid. But this one needs a lot of quantifiers.

copper canopy
#

Cursed Blade might be my favorite sword upgrade.

shadow coral
#

also even without Divine Dash, the Dash does have invincibility frames

real gate
#

just got skellys second prize so now i only have to max rank my keepsakes and i have all achievements

shadow coral
#

it's just extended with Divine

copper canopy
real gate
#

fair

copper canopy
#

His last prize is the best one.

real gate
#

i struggled to get the second one so i think 3 is just out of reach for me

tepid plover
#

At the moment

#

Yiu will make it eventually

#

I remember when simply beating meg seemed impossible

lost citrus
real gate
#

i thought the times floors was gonna be impossible at first but then i noticed i had already got total time down to 17 minutes

unreal shard
#

@lost citrus thank's mate
i used to go with Eternal Spear, but i think i must change to that shield bcs of it's special

#

that works on hades after what i saw

lost citrus
#

I got my first win with the Shiled, used it for blocking attacks a lot :))

tepid plover
#

Thats how you shield

#

Unless you're me and only spam dash strike

unreal shard
#

shield's special is good to spam

#

i used to play it when i started

undone moat
#

Eris is just built different

tight crest
#

At what point do you start encountering the other sisters?

#

Is there a specific amount of runs to do?

coral stump
#

hey so online I've read that you need 12 or so lounge things to complete the "renovating the lounge" prophecy, and i have around 23 but still dont have it complete. Any ideas?

trail pendant
#

got my first companion

#

Also started unlocking more hidden aspects

#

70 hours in and there's still plenty of things to do

copper canopy
coral stump
#

yeah same here

copper canopy
#

I think I was overqualified when I got the task.

copper canopy
coral stump
#

probably, was just wondering if there was any way to like restart it in order to get progress

copper canopy
#

You’ve probably done enough, just wait for when the game tells you that you’ve done it.

swift mist
#

i just slammed something against the wall of that magma boat and it went flying off the screen lmao

#

clipped thru the wall and flew out

wild solar
#

I think I'm in pretty good shape for trying to escape this time

eager flame
#

aAGHHH I GET SO EXCITED WHEN I GET TO SEE PATROCLUS THAT I JUST CHOSE HIS DOOR OVER A DAEDALUS HAMMER

wild solar
#

oop

#

I'm at da final Boss with 1 death defiance and one from lucky tooth
Got full health, 275 total, a buncha boons
Going with Malphon

#

some hammers

eager flame
#

oh well a escape is a small price to pay for patrochilles progress

#

ah that sounds good! good luck buddy :)

wild solar
#

deflect attack and dash
aphrodite special and cast

#

artemis aid

#

some other things i cba to remember cuz they're not on the left

eager flame
#

AHHH THEY GAVE ME THE OPTION TO CHOOSE THE HAMMER AGAIN THIS IS EPIC....

#

i was under the impression the hammer didn't show up again if you denied it once pfft

spice hearth
#

Oh no

#

The game tries very very hard to give you 2 hammers per run

warped iron
#

^

outer dew
#

yep

spice hearth
#

Also 2 Hermes boons

outer dew
spice hearth
#

2 hammers, 2 hermes, guaranteed every run

warped iron
#

not guaranteed, but it's the max unless you use styx shop

spice hearth
#

Guaranteed to be offered at least

#

Up to you if you choose to skip every time haha

eager flame
#

ah i see 😳 yeah i think i've noticed that

#

someone here once said that the hammers didn't show up again if you were to skip it once and it's been haunting me ever since HAHAH

#

glad to know they were wrong tho

wild solar
#

I lost.

#

||I did not know he had extra bars||

#

I'm done for the day

#

My nerves are completely shot

outer dew
#

||Hades||?

wild solar
#

Yea

#

I'm just completely shaking right now

outer dew
#

rip

#

Might want to spoiler that

wild solar
#

I thought this channel was

#

"All spoilers welcome"

outer dew
#

Well I mean its good to be polite

#

Since this is the "main" hades channel

wild solar
#

Sure thing

#

Sorry

eager flame
#

did they change the rules? i thought it was a rule to spoiler that stuff until recently

flat vapor
#

As of two days ago, full spoilers are allowed in this channel (though you're totally allowed to spoiler tag things as a courtesy, if you wish)

eager flame
#

ooh 😳

wild solar
#

A moderator appears

#

Hello there

#

😞

eager flame
#

anyways i was fighting theseus and i invoked mort ,, theseus goes "I'M NOT AFRAID OF DEATH" and then immediately dies thanks to thanatos

outer dew
#

lmao

wild solar
#

mort?

graceful heron
#

I havnt seen artemis in bout 15 runs and im yet to give a nectar. Does loading first area and give up spam work to try find her?

outer dew
#

You will understand a bit later in the game

wild solar
#

Sure

unborn remnant
#

oh no

#

so apparently if you try to collect troves while next to a chaos gate, the game takes the gate

#

rip 100+ darkness

eager flame
#

sometimes i wish hypnos was a dating option but maybe he wouldn't be a good bf

#

AHSDJASHD

red jewel
#

here is a hot take-
I wish that there was an endless mode-

green dune
#

you could just keep playing?

red jewel
#

No like-
See how many chambers you can get through until you perish-

that sort of endless mode

chilly wagon
#

Like risk of rain sort of deal

#

Enemies don't really get more powerful overtime in Hades tho

red jewel
#

Yeah-
But that would be pretty fun-
just to see how powerful you can get

copper canopy
#

What if each chamber was a random assortment of enemies, and the mini/bosses were randomized?

red jewel
#

yeah-
well, it starts from chamber order, then it becomes randomized

||also, i kinda wish hunting blades and freezing vortex affected all blade rift effects-||

uneven ermine
#

I'd love that mode. Every 10 rooms or something some more conditions are applied

red jewel
#

Oh yeah, that could probably work
and not just conditions from the p.o.p.

uneven ermine
#

Would be so much fun

worthy cairn
#

Hello! I've searched a bit on the internet but was unable to find, but is there a (official? maybe) sound file for the gdong that pierced butterfly makes after you clear a room?

narrow hemlock
#

@worthy cairn i can look for it later for you and dm you, feel free to nudge me if i forget through the weekend

scarlet gull
#

i'm 99% sure i saw on the wiki that you had to get hermes from the styx shop only

#

well i just got him on one of the actual styx chambers

#

so turns out that's possible

fierce canyon
#

Does anyone know the conditions to unlock ||ambrosia gifts|| with Hypnos? I've got it with pretty much everyone else by this point

scarlet gull
#

||i'm pretty sure you have to talk with him with a 3 star plume||

fierce canyon
#

Ok, thanks

narrow hemlock
#

think you misread that

runic parrot
#

it's pretty much rng

#

you have to have witnessed some scenes with ||thanatos talking with hypnos||

narrow hemlock
#

the plume is for hermes, not hypnos

runic parrot
#

it's like 4 convos?

narrow hemlock
scarlet gull
#

OH

runic parrot
#

oh wow that's more than i thought

scarlet gull
#

i misread

#

yep

#

i'm dumb

narrow hemlock
scarlet gull
fierce canyon
#

Thanks all

celest saddle
#

how much overall damage does concentrated volley do

runic parrot
#

thats like, +3 consecutive damage per hit?

celest saddle
#

yeah

runic parrot
#

are you using chiron?

celest saddle
#

yup

#

level 5

runic parrot
#

at max level that's like uh

#

8 * 10 + 3 * (7*8/2) = 80 + 84 = 164?

celest saddle
#

hot dawg

runic parrot
#

if i understand the mechanic correctly

#

yeah it's nutty

#

esp if you get arty on the special and also relentless volley

celest saddle
#

i also have weak attack, hangover special, and low tolerance

#

this build is gonna get silly

runic parrot
#

do you have ps

#

cos that would be awesome if you did

celest saddle
#

whats ps again

runic parrot
#

privileged status

celest saddle
#

nah

#

never really tried out that before

scarlet gull
#

poseidon with 7 casts

#

and epic exit wounds

runic parrot
#

👀

scarlet gull
#

mmmmmmmmmmm

runic parrot
#

poseidon

#

i tried 32 heat with poseidon last night. couldnt make it past the bull and the other guy.

celest saddle
#

i got 5 bloodstone with exit wounds and artemis x zeus boon but i wasnt even going for cast build

fleet narwhal
#

nothing like getting 2 eclipses in one run for 700 darkness for beating hades 👌👌

pearl saddle
#

There might be a way to calculate when the game takes place

celest saddle
#

how exactly?

#

i just got 2 legendaries and 3 duos what the hell

#

i dont even have gods favor

runic parrot
cloud tusk
#

So what's the deal with hammers?

#

I thought you got one during the first 2 areas, then the third.

#

But does that include if it shows up in the shop?

#

I.e., if you don't have the coin, you miss out on one?

thorny island
#

Yeah, that can happen

#

But if you miss the one from the first two areas, you can get two in the third / one in the last area

cloud tusk
#

That's a bummer. Dang.

#

Oh, ok. So they can still show up later. Just guaranteed.to pop up in their respective areas.

#

Thank you 💛

thorny island
#

No problem

cloud tusk
#

While I'm here:

#

|| I've only (accidentally) fought Charon once. How do you get the option to appear again? ||

earnest flame
#

That one is completely random...@cloud tusk

cloud tusk
#

So it doesn't have to be like, a non-pre boss chamber shop?

earnest flame
#

@cloud tusk it won't happen in a pre boss chamber or in the last zone

pearl saddle
shrewd helm
#

Oh man. I got almost all hidden aspects now except for the bow. And the one for exagryph is a lot of fun

earnest flame
#

I've unlocked the Spear's and Sword's hidden aspects. Trying to decide between unlocking the bow's or gun's hidden aspect next...🤔

craggy barn
#

bow is better

#

either way you can probably get both of them in a single run

shrewd helm
#

I've long had enough titan blood in my bow but Artemis still hasn't told me the phrase

#

If I use the keepsake maybe that'll help

pearl saddle
#

Yes

#

use the keepsake

#

thats what i did

#

as long as its not your first time using it

#

Oh and prob dont hold the bow, she might talk about the bow instead

keen totem
#

This just happened xD

ornate bear
#

Is that some sort of weird bug, or an extremely rare occurence when you have dio boons? I've never seen that before xD

keen totem
# hearty bramble w... what caused this??

I don't know their name in english but those hands that trap you with chains? Basically this animation plays when they do that... it so happened that the enemy died exactly when it attacked me xD Zag's stuck in the trapped animation but the chains broke when the enemy died lol

ornate bear
#

ohhhh

keen totem
#

It doesn't really have anything to do with Dyo sadly but Zag looks so drunk it looks like it XD

narrow hemlock
#

hes just vibing

hearty bramble
#

hahahah thats amazing

gentle tundra
#

could someone dm me im not sure if my laptip can run hades

#

laptop

brisk trail
#

i really like that zagreus gets more and more sassy (?)

#

"scoff" "weak"

manic bobcat
runic parrot
#

yeah, i also get that issue sometimes

#

but sometimes i'd also be dashing while the animation happens, so zagreus just perpetually walks drunk

wind oar
#

I'm not sure

#

I think you can only get 2 hammers in a run

#

You're guaranteed to get at least one

sharp fossil
#

the game will go out of its way to offer you 2 hammers, so if you skip one you should have another chance

#

if you get to styx with only 1 hammer, one of the satyr tunnels will have one

#

so yeah it’s possible to only ever get 1 hammer (or even 0 in theory) but you have to avoid getting one multiple times for that to happen

rapid forum
#

sea storm procs on every knock back right?

#

not just poseidon's?

#

like shield's knock back or sword thrust

sharp schooner
#

This is a subjective question, but what do you guys think is the hardest weapon in the game?

gaunt tapir
#

not the shield

sharp fossil
#

zagreus sword

rapid forum
#

hera bow

sharp fossil
rapid forum
#

ok thanks for the confirmation

rose quest
#

Ramaaaaa

heavy veldt
sharp fossil
#

as was said; it’s a subjective question

brisk trail
#

Im not a fan of the bow

#

Im not great with the sword either

#

Shield wouldve been my answer but aspect of zeus is pretty neat

rose quest
#

shield as hardest?

brisk trail
#

im just bad with it 🥴🥴

rose quest
#

it k im bad w/ rail

brisk trail
#

i think my thought process is “ohoohoho i hav a shield im invisible” and then i play stupidly

rapid forum
#

bull rush ftw

brisk trail
#

yoga

#

yoda

rose quest
#

shield only weap when something comes to hit me i can say "nah im good"

#

"no dmg plz"

brisk trail
#

mm dash into traps 🥴

rapid forum
#

I just did a successful ||high heat|| run with chaos shield

#

I think I got the hang of it now

brisk trail
#

Neat

rapid forum
#

I can see why peeps prefer making builds for shield attack than special now

rose quest
#

I started doing water gun runs to farm. its still funny 10 games later

rapid forum
#

do wine gun run

gentle tundra
#

could i run hades with a Intel pentium silver N5000 1.10 and a UHD 605 and 8gb of ram

rapid forum
#

theoretically

#

you SHOULD be able to

#

checked few stuffs

#

but I'm not sure :/

gentle tundra
#

on how many fps and thanks for that

rapid forum
#

that is the part I'm not sure about

#

:/

gentle tundra
#

do you reckon it would be smooth

#

i dont need a lot i just dont want choppy gameplay

#

30 would do but consisient

rapid forum
#

I reckon it'd be somewhat smooth

gentle tundra
#

lets go

#

im so glad because i cant afford a pc and ive heard so much about this

#

my laptop isnt very good but at least i can play this

dark nacelle
#

i’ve had two chances to get more death defiance

#

this is the most times it’s ever happened qwq

#

i bought an athena boon right before the staircase store and i wanna fiGhT

#

last time I beat minotaur man my laptop crashed right after

#

now i’m waiting for my laptop to cool down before i keep going with Elysium ST_ded

shrewd forge
#

I literally tried every single way to fix the "unable to read data" error... what's the FINAL solution?

hollow hawk
shrewd forge
#

Sorry

pliant garnet
#

do cyclops jerky stack? I bought like 3 and idk if it was worth

earnest flame
#

I kinda wish Hades showed achievements on the Switch...

craggy barn
#

@high island i'd like to make a challenge submission, how do i do so?

#

oh wait i just had to scroll right a little bit

high island
craggy barn
naive falcon
#

Anyway to check time-played without using Launcher? I own the Epic version, but I never keep the Epic Launcher open. Any way to track it in-game?

craggy barn
#

the run date might be a bit off because i'm in the philippines and here it's the 6th

strange plaza
#

ah, a fellow PHST dweller

quartz flume
#

Btw, does the in-game timer that shows at the victory screen work the same as TD timer? Like stops during fishing, dialogues, listening to Eurydice for 10 hours?

runic parrot
#

yea

#

you can turn on the igt timer in the settings

vale pecan
#

Yep in game timer will answer any questions you have about time keeping (during a run) its pretty generous

prisma wind
#

Ranculos you have to check the launcher, there's no in-game tracker for total time

craggy barn
#

another one of these amazing threads

prisma wind
#

That's just a link to the forums? Was there a specific thread you were trying to link?

craggy barn
#

damnit

#

ok here it is

prisma wind
#

I thought that might be the case

runic parrot
#

bait

#

if it's intensely provocative i just assume it's bait

brazen lagoon
#

At least be more creative or something

#

Say stuff like 'zagreus is a misogynist because aphrodite looks like aphrodite' or something

#

That's actually good bait

craggy barn
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dude just took the phrase "i have no goddamn idea what a roguelike is" and stretched it to a full essay

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if you're gonna say "game bad" at least try to make a good point

hollow hawk
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he didnt even own the game

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ever

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so its just a troll lol

brazen lagoon
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I mean it's very obvious bait

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The profile pic is a question mark

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Has never touched a single roguelite game before apparently

crimson canopy
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Finally watching the noclip videos on the making of and they're great!

Out of curiosity, anyone know what this knockback move is at 33:25 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQPk9J7spw0#t=33m25s) ?

We embed with the art and music teams at Supergiant Games to examine what it's like creating the visuals and soundtrack for Hades, while the game is still in early access.

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runic parrot
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it's ?t=2005

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i think

crimson canopy
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Oh does the link timestamp not work for you? Seems ok on my end 🤔

runic parrot
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i dont think it does on the embed, no

prisma wind
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Timestamp worked fine for me. Are you just talking about the sword thrust?

runic parrot
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when i click on it it works though

prisma wind
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The sword's third strike has knockback by default

crimson canopy
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oh the embed, gotcha - and not the thrust, the radial push zag does

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it's closer to 33:26 but that's kinda in the middle of the animation

prisma wind
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That's Zag's special

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It might be old footage from when Zag T-posed the special

crimson canopy
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ohh is that what it used to look like? neat!

prisma wind
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I'd forgotten about that until just now, honestly

runic parrot
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i wish they kept that.

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that looks awesome

crimson canopy
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it's kinda neat but I guess thematically as the sword special the sword slam makes more sense

trail pendant
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I think he kinda misunderstood what rogulike/roguelite is

swift mist
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asterius is daddy

rapid forum
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wat

gaunt tapir
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Is swearing here allowed?

rapid forum
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nope

gaunt tapir
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Dang

craggy barn
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carnivorous bovine daddy

quartz flume
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Is || Hades's call || (post-ending content) any good after they nerfed it to only have two sections on the bar? I enjoyed it when I could use it every couple of seconds, but now doesn't seem so exciting

hollow hawk
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its decent if you have aether's net or athena's proud bearing

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ottherwise its eh

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takes way too long to fill it

manic moat
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excuse me athena's wot

hollow hawk
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boon that gives you like 20% god gauge when you enter a room

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something like that

rapid forum
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So I charmed redacted in ||EM4|| while ||he's regen-ing his health, he went "these souls are mine, boy"||

gaunt tapir
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I fear what lies behind the black bars

remote linden
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man i wish we could see damage dealt when we finish the game

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id like to see the millions of damage i racked up

gentle tundra
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could i run hades: cpu is intel Pentium silver N5000 1.10, Gpu is UHD 605 and i have 8 gb of ram

vapid narwhal
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try it and if it doesnt run well refund

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you have two hours to test it

trail pendant
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Bouldy is the best character ever made

granite ether
gentle tundra
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damm

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i was hoping for full screen

granite ether
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Digmouse's suggestion is something worth giving a shot

gentle tundra
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yeah i’ll do that

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wait what’s 720p

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that is resultion right

granite ether
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yeah, biggest problem I can see you running into is cpu as minimum specs ask for a dual core cpu that can hit a frequency of 2.4GHz
The Pentium silver you have has a boost clock of 2.7 and I'm not sure if that's all core or the best core

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yeah resolution

gentle tundra
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so that won’t be full screen rught?

granite ether
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you can run it full screen, it won't look as pretty is all at 720p

gentle tundra
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that’s fine i just want smooth gameplay

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i don’t need ultra hd graphics

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30 fps will do

craggy barn
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still really nice that when i finally finished 32 heat on all weapons it happened to be on my 100th clear

runic parrot
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that's pretty ceremonial. i dont know if thats the right word for it.

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it fits.

vapid narwhal
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for hades you want 60fps

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30fps is really not ideal

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for what it is worth, my ultrabook which has a i5 8265U + Iris HD 630, that is significantly faster than the pentium, has frame drops at 900p

dark nacelle
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back in october? or earlier i started playing hades

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and in my first couple of runs i had this boon where you’d attach and get health back

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i can’t recall who gave it, but did they remove it? I haven’t seen it since

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oH WAS IT THE HAMMER?

granite ether
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cursed slash?

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the sword hammer

vapid narwhal
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cursed slash for sure

dark nacelle
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ye!!!

vapid narwhal
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it's also a bait unless you are on hidden sword

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not worth taking

dark nacelle
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hidden sword :0?

granite ether
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it can work well with flurry strike or whatever the fast attacking hammer is

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at that point you're going all in Zeus probably

vapid narwhal
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take it if you have flurry strike first

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if not, dont

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although it's kinda OK on max zag aspect with the attack speed bonus

brisk trail
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The power special shot you can get on the bow seems to be very high dps close range

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Im thinking of trying it with doom

craggy barn
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well yeah, it's a shotgun

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you might as well use artemis on special instead

manic moat
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if there was like a custom mode where we could get all the boons and exact hammers we wanted

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that would be so fun

runic parrot
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i just want to be able to try out boons on skelly

brisk trail
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Hmm

granite ether
runic parrot
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thank you, i didnt even think about mods, duh.

remote lily
granite ether
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they already have it Opelit

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it's a school laptop

remote lily
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oh ok

gentle tundra
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thats what i have

severe smelt
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I had last boss do beams at me (the 3) and then turn around instantly and smack me in the face with them. 🤔

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I don't think that's supposed to happen.

craggy barn
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have you considered dodging

hollow hawk
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youre just supposed to dodge them

unreal shard
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yo guys i saw now on youtube someone playing hades, and ||the last boss hades left zag to pass without a fight|| , how to get that ?

craggy barn
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how many times have you beaten hades?

unreal shard
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i did it twice

craggy barn
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now do it 8 more times

swift mist
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it happens eventually, progress more

unreal shard
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oof, but will the ending change ?

craggy barn
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zagreus isn't gonna get past his dad to talk to his mom only to die again forever

quartz flume
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I wondered if you could still fight him when he did that. Didn't try cause didn't want to ruin the moment

severe smelt
hollow hawk
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he does turn around, just slowly lol

severe smelt
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Yes I am saying he turned around instantly.

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Like, did a 180.

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I sometimes wish people take the time to read what was actually written.

hollow hawk
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thats weird

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maybe bug report it? idk

severe smelt
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Yeaaaaaah I should have had.

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Was salty it basically resulted in me dying while I went into the fight with 0 DD but ||Demeter-Athena|| Duo. 🤣

brisk trail
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Anyone having issues connecting controller after updating to mac big sur? It works in big picture mode but never since the update won’t when the game loads to the menu. Super frustrating pls help

hollow hawk
strong ivy
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so.. when Dusa and Meg are in the lounge together, they start whispering to each other. for some reason that's the most adorable thing i've ever seen

severe smelt
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Got all the achievements yay! ^^

swift mist
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gg

jaunty bay
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ya ever just have a god run and then em4 is like: "lol have a doomstone"?

rapid forum
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every run is a god run tho

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unless you go boonless

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also spoiler

craggy barn
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idk about you but doomstone is easy

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it's just a neutered dire snakestone

coarse steppe
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I made it to the fight with hades on my 4th run, so Idk if I’m missing out on a bunch of dialogue now that like half the characters are gone from the home place

craggy barn
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4th run?????? goddamn

manic moat
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huh

karmic trellis
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can you beat Hades without talking to anyone, my brother wanted to try Hades and he has goober goblin gamer brain so he just runs straight to the weapon room, picks as the dark thirst follows then rinse and repeat.

outer dew
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But how tf did he beat the game on his fourth try

karmic trellis
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he's good it's that simple

outer dew
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Interesting

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Gamer time

manic moat
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I mean if it's the fourth total try, then I'm very impressed like holy

coarse steppe
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yeah i only have 2.3 hours in so far

craggy barn
outer dew
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I literally couldnt even get to beat meg on my 10th try

coarse steppe
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tho idk if this is just until i do another run, but the only characters in the house are skelly, cerberus, and hypnos :/

shrewd helm
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That's gotta be hard to do considering you would have almost no mirror upgrades

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Every run escape or not. The characters on the house shift around

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Tbey arnt always available to talk to either. Sometimes u can only listen to them and you cant gift them until the next run

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You should be fine. Even if u keep winning I think. The dialogue should still play out but yea now u wont probably listen to everyone tell u how ridiculous u are for trying sense u made an escape

true bridge
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does anybody agree that legendary boons are a little underwhelming on average?
we have things like bad news, greater recall, splitting bolt and blackout
but there are things so inconsequential like, unhealthy fixation, second wave, divine protection.
some that are too much of a hassle to get, like fully loaded and winter's harvest. (vicious cycle is alright tho)

shouldn't the legendary boons be better?

outer dew
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Some are okay

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But I wouldnt really call them underwhelming

true bridge
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the only good thing about some of them is the 435 coins if i'm not mistaken

outer dew
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Stuff like unhealthy fixation isnt great but its hilarious to watch

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second wave is good for things like seastorm

shrewd helm
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I've only gotten a couple legendary boons and I dont even remember what they did so I dont recall them being game breaking or anything