#h1-discussion
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It's a highly sophisticated form of sign language that takes years of intense study to understand
On a separate topic - this might have been answered already, I'm new here sorry - does anyone know if there's plans to be able to reroll hammer upgrades? Or would that be too op?
well which one do you like using more
id personally go for eris or demeter but only because i like them
@flat halo Do what I do and hoard so you can upgrade them all at once.
i was too excited with going higher and higher heat to do that.
Well when I first unlocked aspects, I had enough to unlock them all and fully upgrade the default aspect
The Nemesis sword with a 'Exit Wounds' boon is just fantastic.
Then I eventually got enough to upgrade the hidden aspects fully
Nemesis, not Poseidon?
poseidon is great.
Nemesis is fun though, peppering in the occasional special and getting crits.
i am the number one poseidon sword fan
true shot exit wounds and fully loaded, go to town on bosses
Nemesis is the one that gives a Crit chance after specials, that's right.
get pressure points if you can
Why do you hate the hidden rail? I don’t love it, but I don’t hate it.
That's mean.
Well yeah, why would you do that?
welll, early game was painful. melted through elysium and Styx though
Do default
It’s easy to adjust to because it’s a straight upgrade
What next?
because it was fun. also the name is sorta ironic.
its one of my go tos
The aspects I named are the ones I’m planning on using a while
yeah nemesis is just a straight upgrade to zag aspect imo
Hidden rail confuses me because the previous owner is from a different religion
id pick eris if you like ranged weapon
eris is one of the most powerful weapons imo
though the playstyle is admittedly very different from chiron.
in terms of objective damage output
I love nemesis, but the attack speed boost is great if you’re building that up
Nemesis or Chaos in my opinion
literally none of the hidden aspects have anything to do with greek mythology
dash strikes are the 'best' (in terms of dps/safety) way to play sword though and zag's bonuses dont really help with that
But they don’t contradict it either is what I’m saying
It took me an age to get past Theseus and Asterius. It was a clusterfrick of a mess the first few times... until I learned Asterius is much easier to deal with first. Lord.
while nemesis fits the style perfectly
I feel that Welshy
hidden bow comes from ||Hinduism i believe||
so its in the same boat as hidden rail i think?
though admittedly i dont know much about that religion
It depends on the build, I had an amazing Zagreus sword build the other day
Max Zag Sword + Epic Swift Strike + Flurry Strike + Cursed Blade + Curse of Agony + Dire Misfortune + Impending Doom
It’s insane how fast it attacked
might as well use divine strike or deadly strike
For kicks I purposely got poisoned and was able to heal faster than it poisoned me.
One of the boons listed has doom damage stack the more it’s applied
haelian also had a similar build in one of his vids, flurry slash + cursed slash
doom isnt a good attack boon for sword tbh
even if you stack it
Normally, yes.
arty wouldve been best with your build
unless its ME i guess?
or even something like zeus, dio etc
yeah
but still, without ME and with impending doom, you would probably kill most enemies before the doom itself procced
But yes I agree normally it isn’t good
unless you one tap all the enemies in the room then wait for them to die automatically
Doom on its own isnt that great
Try the build and come back to me
I actually wanna make a build that relies on the aphro/ares duo boon
doom hits multiple times
But it falls off in damage over time
does it?
The description doesn’t list that and I was disappointed
i was thinking it'd work with chiron and ME
Yes, each additional automatic doom strike does 50% damage of the last one.
chiron ME on itself isnt that bad actually
yeah and with the multiple doom strikes it might work
i mighg check but im super unlucky so
might not get it
Do my build
especially since its two duos
hard to get that luck lol
flurry slash and epic hermes attack speed
True, mostly because the Daedalus hammer upgrades
Cursed blade was also there
Which is why ME doesn’t work as well with it, because you need to keep attacking at all times
I could heal like 10 health per second though
And like I said earlier, I healed faster than poison damaged me
flurry slash and cursed slash feel impossible to get together
Well then I guess you’ll have to take my word for it then~
i wont say no though

they are possible like for the in game logic
but luck wise its hard
unless you seed/route the run
To make a long story short; doom isn’t usually good on attack outside ME, but it was good with my build.
chiron is the only time ME actually works well with dire misfortune lol
I got hades on switch yesterday morning :3 was a early access backer for pc but couldn't resist cause the cloud save
Way comfier
it's the best!
Hi everyone, I cleared all the Fated List of Minor Prophecies. I have no more Prophecies to unlock, and I'm about at 80 runs by now. I compared my list to the one of the Wiki, just to make sure I didn't miss anything, and I did:
- Sea-God's Spite (Vanquish 'Extreme Measures' Theseus, then seek Poseidon)
- Customer Loyality (The son of the god of the dead shall someday purchase each of the various goods sometimes offered in the Well of Charon).
I already got Theseus win with Extreme Measures.
I'm not sure about Customer Loyality. Maybe I didn't buy all Charon has to offer? I'm not sure. But anyhow - shouldn't this one be showing with check-list like most of the Prophecies of this style?
touch of styx is only obtainable if you're using stubborn defiance if that helps
THANK YOU!!
I’ve been trying to get that last one for so many runs now XD
SERIOUSLY
Have you guys ever won
With stubborn defiance, heal on darkness and dash attack damage (1 dash)
I’m trying to win a run with alternate mirrors to get achievement
And it’s impossible even on no heat lol
dont do it all at once lmaoo
do one thing at a time
especially with things like stubborn defiance and 1 dash, and HC
ruthless reflex works well on fists
ruthless best works with gilgamesh fists
Pulling off stubborn defiance takes a lot more experience to do quickly
common trick with stubborn defiance that if your hp is below 30% you can kill yourself with a trap to heal some back
and getting touch of styx from patty is a must
wait wtf
i thought knockback didnt work against bosses?
but i have chiron poseidon special and its knocking meg back
The biggest help is doing it once you're able to consistently defeat all the bosses without losing DD - it's a bit farther than you need to go, but it helps
Knockback effects are just greatly reduced
these dont seem greatly reduced lol
it does but it's just very weak on bosses
It barely works on hades
huh
Man i got the upgrade with the sword where u ger 2 hp every hit but have 60% hp and died in styx
So stubborn defiance versus 1 dodge
maybe its because chiron has 8 knockbacks on the special
Which is harder
And doesn't work at all on lernie
When you have very high rate of knockback it affects some of them
apparently there are cases where knockback effects simply don't apply, such as with dracons who are totally immune to knockback
if you go gilga fists with ruthless (which you should), its way easier
that upgrade is a huge noob trap lol
knockback "effects" still apply to lernie i think but to dracons they just don't work at all
you should only really get it if you have extra attack speed
from zag sword, hermes, or flurry slash
Lol im not a noob
Lol ok
That could be really powerful im i played right
It was the poison in Styx that got me
Saying that upgrade is a "noob trap" is simply stupid sorry lol
So what are the noob traps
Nah i just wasnt careful around the poison
So I can take them as soon as possible
It was good
For achievement
It is a good upgrade idc if u dont like it lol
More challenging too cause sword requires u to actually avoid stuff
unless, again, you have extra attack speed
It's a meme build with flurry slash
Regaining health on hit is one of the best upgrades imo
Not too good against harder hitting enemies
Lifesteal mechanics are my fave thing in diablo like games
And it's just the worst possible thing on the sword's fourth aspect
can you even get it on the fourth
Yep
Its fun
Pretty sure it's still available
i have severely underestimated how good triple shot can be
No clue why
dash nova is also available as a sword hammer on all aspects
no one, to this date, knows why
Ive been trying to avoid doom builds tho its too easy
triple shot with point blank actually still works well too
The sword's hammer pool is kinda hit and miss
^
as someone wise once said, remove half of sword's hammer pool and it will become a much better weapon
So sword hammer pool is bad?
Some of them are just very mediocre
Its insane how much they added to the game tho when i first backed it u could only beat the hydra then it was over
Some are still quite good, but a lot aren't
So will devs fix it up
No fixing needed
I hope they keep adding more
rail hammers 😍
sword hammers 😠
It is how it is
I wish they would add more to pyre too
Nah
I platted Pyre tho
this game doesnt have magic related wep right , im new
dash nova kekw
How do u get a hammer?
double edge is the best sword hammer
There is a form of enchantment though
daedelus hammers
Giving your weapon lightning power
are a room reward in the game
Or water power, etc
They seem a lot more likely to regroup at some point and figure out their next project, it hasn't looked like they're planning to keep hades on content updates
Those are technically magic
I do think they should get on with their project
But Hades is kinda infinite content kind of game
The "Developing Hell" series by NoClip is good to watch for their dev process and they mention stuff like that
And tuning up 1 aspect of the game (hammer sword) may make the game more permanent
Wizard of Legend
i mean like what do you count as magic
risk of rain also doesnt iirc
like depending on your definition the entirety of slay the spire is magic
again, fiction and magic are different things
i think its more like
able to cast spell
not the zeus thunder posaidon water thing
basically harry potter

Only one I can really think of then is wizard of legend
well this is a greek mythology game
alright will check it out
also, #video-games is the channel youre looking for to discuss other games
👍
i mean like would you count the cast as magic
says a lot about a selection of upgrades if the one that basically makes your dash-strike deal 40% more damage is considered one of the best
It’s unfortunate
So let’s air out all the grievances related to gameplay
Anything else needs revising
the double dash strike is what matters with double edge doesnt it
140%*
im using the extreme measures in the elesium boss fight and theseus is such a manchild LMAO
theseus is the only reason i haven’t beaten hades yet
What about the final boss?
which part do you find hard about it?
the shield mixed with all the gods
i’ve beat it once without dying but on a terrible run where i had already lost 2 DDs
dash around and target him inbetween the god attacks, also when he first summons the gods he isnt holding his shield up so hes rly vulnerable for like 10 seconds
just dash through him, do a 180 and attack his back
Kill bull first. Every time Theseus attacks, he'll turn his back on you and start walking away, then you can take this chance to attack him.
His god power AOEs have a delay, just dont stay in the circles too long and you'll be fine.
keep dashing through him
and yeah for the Minotaur part stay behind the pillars to dodge theseus's spear and dodging minotaur's attacks isnt too hard, just time your dashes
he telegraphs his attacks for a while, hes p easily dodgeable
The most hilarious way to deal with the initial god summon (the homing attack, not the later circles) is to bring Skelly. While he absorbs all the god attacks, you have plenty of time to take a huge chunk out of Theseus' health, or even outright kill him.
lmao
even without the skelly thing, dodging back and forth through him while attacking him is enough to avoid the initial god attack and get a chunk out of him
Also, if RNGsus is on your side get a good Aid boon and Hermes' Quick Favor, and activate Greater Call as soon as that last phase starts and he's not impervious. If you've levelled the Aid up enough it can absolutely destroy him.
yeah if you have calls save them for certain phases that you get hit the most on
dont activate them as soon as theyre available
I remember the first time I used Artemis' call on the Hydra after killing all the heads for the second time, literally killed it in the hissing animation. Felt like a god.
i remember in some of my first runs i had artermis's call and the arrow literally went to some background enemy instead of hades like 2 times in a row
none of them got him
wouldve took around half of a health bar off him if they hit
artemis's call is powerful af but its annoying, you gotta time it and make sure they arent gonna shield and that there arent any enemies that it could go to instead of the boss
I know this pain, took me like 10 tries to finally beat him
Prioritize the bull, just spam all your damage into him
once he's gone, dash in to hit theseus, and dash out after
you can dash past his projectile attack if you time it right
If you have privileged status + aphrodite call, you can kill his second phase in 1 hit
just wait for him to call on the god
you should also use the pillar things
stand behind them when he uses his spear
when he uses his call, dash the circles and dont attack him
yeah I forgot about that part
Theseus is completely vulnerable during the first god summon though
his shield doesnt even work
at least to me, that seems like a primary moment to just start hitting him if you have the health to spare
What is aphro call?
Charm enemy, only does damage at max call
very hit or miss it seems
yeah, top players say its bad
Its fun but pretty bad
it is, but for newer players that is hard
yeah, charm as an effect itself is meh
it doesnt last long enough for enemies to hit each other
its more of a glorified stun lock
Stubborn
You can get dashes from hermes
Wait till you do a mirroless run
do the dodge one on gilgamesh as i said earlier
and itll be easy
Crush Shot/Hera bow interaction acting up again :/
i can beat theseus it’s just every time i do i end up in styx without enough dds to get through styx or beat hades
Theseus and Asterius are the reason why I switch to the Evergreen Acorn after Asphodel. Really helps to be basically impervious for a few hits.
how many attempts is the average for beating hades?
Focus on getting coin if you can to replenish dds
or use Athena builds for extra dds when you accept some of her boons
It took me something like 30-40 runs to beat the final boss for the first time
in on 31
dont worry about where you stack up compared to others
just keep upgrading your mirror and you'll get it
i’ve got to the second phase once
I found the only thing I needed was a 3rd dd
after I got that I could get there consistently
I think I got it in 27/28, but that's considering I enabled God Mode for the last two attempts it took.
Also yeah, getting a third DD makes a huge difference.
i dont lose any dds until asterius and theseus
Make sure you grab keys to expand the mirror
You also might want to reconsider your build
What keepsakes do you usually use, Griefy?
there are some times when you genuinely dont need to put something on a cast, special, attack etc
depends on the build
i used to start of with athena for Tartarus and switch to collar for Asphodel, Elysium and Styx but now I just use collar bc I need to learn not to rely on divine dash, but I could probably use better
If you're struggling with bosses I'd recommend the Evergreen Acorn (from Eurydice)
Yeah I have it
For me, its:
Tartarus - Usually the keepsake I need to start a build
Asphodel - Either the 2nd keepsake for a build or Charon's Hourglass, maybe Chaos keepsake
Elysium - Hourglass, postgame keepsake
Styx - Acorn
@fallow remnant maybe you need to reconsider your build
The Chaos keepsake is good. I always find I equip it before a run starts, no Chaos gates appear in Tartarus, then I equip another keepsake and suddenly they're popping up all over the place.
Thanks Chaos, real funny.
Like if you're running a build that goes all in on attack, with a special for duos and a good dash, why bother putting a boon on cast?
so other gods wont offer cast
reroll
or grab passives
unless you literally dont have a choice
just try not to take a boon that actively hurts your build
tbf i take poseidon cast pretty much every time just because i find it fun
i try to get sea storm when i do get it
If ur having trouble with theseus or ||hades|| then try using tracking ares cast
With consecutive hit plus preferably
Hunting blades is fantastic
Hunting blades+vicious cycle=kill everything by just dashing and casting
You can always go for the old reliable if you really want a clear
Eris Rail with Zeus Attack
Heck yeah bro
Sea Storm is the one true rail attack
it's weird how rarely the og lernie appears after you've killed her once i think
hah so the last entry in the <@&737365219982049411> has a clear date of 1996 🙂
uh oh thats a ping
Oh no
oh
lol
👀
the game as been in early access since 1996 


RAAAAAA!
Thanks, I fixed it. Please don't ping the role. 
sorry , ok I won't
Well, there goes the great man.
Fs in chat for the poor soul on their way to ban for mass ping.

It's the mods' fault for allowing anyone to ping the role instead of just me tbf lol.
how did people manage to deal with 120 heat back in the day
watching one of tailesque's old 120 heat runs right now and holy hell that skullcrusher took a long time to kill
imagine that but with tight deadline on
tail himself told me that heat numbers were more inflated i'm just more concerned that enemies not only hit like trucks but took punishment way too well
we don't control that, we can't set roles.
So the admins' fault, then. 
theseus making fun of me hiding behind the pillars while he's using a shield 
cant decide if i like demeter on special more than arty+heart rend
on one hand, bigger % & chill stack explosion boon
Hi everyone, i'm trying to get the hidden aspect of fists. I read that i have to talk to asterius twice, one with fists equipped once and an another one without necessarily fists equipped.
I talked to him the first time and i got the line mentioning the fists.
I talked to him again but with the arc and he didn't mention the hidden aspect. He talked about me beating the champion.
So i have doubt, have i to talk to him with fists equipped the second time or i just keep running and talking to him ?
on the other hand, CRITS
have you unlocked hidden spear yet?
i believe the way dialogue works in this game is that once you meet the prerequisites for an option, it gets added to the pool
so if youre not getting the dialogue yet, you just gotta keep running it
that's roughly how it works, yes
Mmh ok i see. So i'll keep running. Asterius is tricky to get him in a run. I keep facing the butterfly enemy
Like 5-6 runs, only fight him once
That's interesting, I feel like I fight asterius more often, small-set randomness is fun
Who dares pinging me?
I just wanna say, I spent the last few years chasing that BotW high, nothing that came out felt quite as good as the exquite balance of wonder and fear that gliding across the forests and fields, looking for mushrooms and adventure engendered.
I'm gonna spend the next few years chasing this Hades high. The writing, the outstanding sound design, the tight controls, the art that's just so readable at a glance, the replayability - it's a solid 99% game for me and I'm glad to have found it. Kudos, Supergiant.
I like the synergies you can get
And it's a rare roguelite that actually has a story
Is there a reason that my mods would have stopped working after this latest patch?
It's been forever since I've played a game like this (Diablo II is the closest), and I know I generally suck at them. (More than 100 runs before my first clear, I'm in the 140s now and have only cleared twice). Should I just give in and turn on God mode, or keep chipping away at it? (I'm loving the story lines and characters, hate Asphodel, gotten the Megaera and Artemis bonds)
god mode doesn't make the game easier as such.. just makes you a bit more durable =w=
Still, more margin of error for learning enemy patterns
true
and if you have trouble avoiding projectiles athena's dash is the best
athena in general is best
That is my usual problem - taking too much damage. If I bulk up on lives and HP I do better.
My second escape (yesterday...) had athena's dash.
I love athena/zeus combo or athena/ares
This was athena/ares
I picked up a cheap logitech controller after getting tired of having to always hit two keys to move in the direction I wanted.
I played a good 100 runs with God Mode on (the base game being too difficult for me, tbh, and I was pretty disheartened with Bastion), and now I do pretty well with it off (I started a fresh save, about 80 runs in at this point), having learned a lot about the patterns and timing of the enemies. I probably beat Hades himself half the normal runs now.
aah, I'm on switch =w=
sometimes the combination of boons I have make me wonder wth is happening on screen as I dash around
I dont notice any lag on my switch
me neither 😄
I just have so many odd boons that there's so much happening my eyes can't keep up
Me either, but I use the Switch Pro controller (highly recommended if the Joy-Con drift problem frustrates you)
Yeah - definitely loving the game - all the options are awesome. Feel like I should be doing better, esp after seeing some of the runs folks are doing.
@stone carbon have you seen the "beat the game on run 1" videos? That's just unthinkable skill levels to me.
lucky- I've got three sets and can't use any of them.
Haven't gone looking for them - would probably be depressed to see them 🙂 I don't think I made it to Meg on my first run. ||The first time I thought I beat Hades was a killer - yeah didn't make through the second round||
I'm so obsessed with this game I tried playing it on my surface pro
it...kind of worked?
The best god is Hermes because he doesn’t help Theseus.
finally finished 32 heat with all weapons
Taking into account both their boons and them as a character, my favorite boon-giving gods are probably Hermes, Artemis, Chaos, and ||Demeter||
32 heat?! I think I've done 10 with god mode on, mad congrats.
Hermes, Ares, Aphro, and Dio for me.
i still have prophecies, furnishings and upgrading all the aspects
there's also the badges and themes but... no thanks
I can beat the game on heat like...3, without god mode.
(this game does such a great job teaching you how to play, though!)
Very true. Though I'm a slow learner 😆
Good afternoon everyone!
I just joined the server because I had a question
Sometimes the Fury sisters give me 50 Darkness when I beat them, and sometimes 60. What's up with that?
Dark thirst on weapons
Oh okay
I forgot about that
😅 My bad, sorry for the probably-dumb question
Also I just gotta say that I love this game. There aren't many games where at one point I won't turn off the sound and music to listen to my own music
But Hades is one of those games
Just an absolute musical masterpiece
I spend too long in Eurydice's chamber 
I don’t like Hermes cuz he doesn’t have too many boons that suits my current play style >.>
hermes would use rapidash
Greatest Reflex and Quick Favor are a must for me.
ironically, I thought Hermes had the worst boons to slowly becoming my fav
stuff like Rush Delivery and Quick reload help a LOT
Hi, im wondering if the effect of pierced butterfly still works after removing it? like run the first area and get some dmg then swap
Hello, im sorry but im pretty sure i fished more than 50 fish and still i cannot give (or i dont understand) how to give them to poseidon to unlock the 25fish contract
guys is there a way to know in which chamber is that thing to give to Cerberus
i've been playing for 6hours and i still stuck there :p
its usually the 2nd chamber
completely random!
in my experience
random but it does not takes more than 3 chamber
hmm imma take the 2nd one
plume and butterfly only retain their bonuses while equipped
thanks
no no, it's the 2nd one you enter. so you have to get in one first
i think you just talk to him
you don't give them to poseidon, turn them in to the head chef
I've had the sack drop on the 4th choice a time or 2...😎
why i wanted to unlock the "quest" on contractor :<
unlucky gang
iirc the game only stores fish for a few runs if you don't turn them in but don't quote me on that
ok so i wasted almost 70 run of fish
Uhm
I think you lose the fish if you don't turn them in before starting your next run.
Thought you lost fish if you started a new run
i wanna die
Interesting
Are you keeping track
Are you sure you turned all of them from the 3 runs
mh ok i just trade all the fish
turned out they were 46
and i'm pretty sure they were more than 3
How many fish was it
I always turn my fish in after each run...
i could be wrong, but i remember not losing fish
like.. 8?
If the player starts a new run without turning in the fish, the fish caught in previous run will not be lost up to one run.
Ok so is 1 run
They changed it
is there a sort of bug? coz i litterally just traded 46 fish and poseidon didnt care about. or mby i needed some nectar relationship with him
dunno
dialogue is not immediately reactive to your actions, that's not a bug. the dialogue works in that once the game sees you have completed x requirement for a specific piece of dialogue, it then has the chance to come up when you speak with someone
Welcome to the dialogue slot machine
i would only consider a potential bug if you're sure you met requirements but you're only getting recycled dialogue
otherwise the solution is typically just.. keep playing til it pops up
lol i traded again another 30+ fish
what is so good about athena's call compared to other calls? ares and posiden calls also turn you invincible and do damage too
so i was on 70 fish on total
unlike ares and poseidon, you can attack during athena's
ah cool
so if you're not too call dependent damage-wise, use athena's
nectar relationship
when in doubt max up on gifts :thonk:
thank you discord for not emoting that
appreciate the manual effort
😂
well look on the bright side, more obols 
facing hade for 2nd time any advice ? :p
for zag "don't die" is actually the hardest advice in the world 
@unreal shard this comment on reddit was very helpful to me: https://www.reddit.com/r/HadesTheGame/comments/j90v8d/tips_for_clearing_with_stubborn_defiance/g8gei7w
tl:dr: don't try to button mash, learn the patterns, find windows between attacks, hit and dash away. it's not a sprint, it's a marathon
4 votes and 21 comments so far on Reddit
...unless you're a speedrunner
lol
If you're having trouble on Hades fight id suggest powering up god mode (if you haven't already maxed it out).
If you use the bow and is offered Flurry Shot, take it. It makes it easy to stuff Hades' full of arrows whenever you are not dodging. Same with Adamant Rail and Rocket Launcher. Don't take any upgrades that decrease your dash (spear) or health (sword).
Generally the advice there is solid. But this one needs a lot of quantifiers.
Cursed Blade might be my favorite sword upgrade.
also even without Divine Dash, the Dash does have invincibility frames
just got skellys second prize so now i only have to max rank my keepsakes and i have all achievements
it's just extended with Divine
All the official achievements.
fair
His last prize is the best one.
i struggled to get the second one so i think 3 is just out of reach for me
At the moment
Yiu will make it eventually
I remember when simply beating meg seemed impossible
well, Flurry Shot makes wonders for Hera Crush Shot build 🙂
i thought the times floors was gonna be impossible at first but then i noticed i had already got total time down to 17 minutes
@lost citrus thank's mate
i used to go with Eternal Spear, but i think i must change to that shield bcs of it's special
that works on hades after what i saw
I got my first win with the Shiled, used it for blocking attacks a lot :))
Eris is just built different
At what point do you start encountering the other sisters?
Is there a specific amount of runs to do?
hey so online I've read that you need 12 or so lounge things to complete the "renovating the lounge" prophecy, and i have around 23 but still dont have it complete. Any ideas?
got my first companion
Also started unlocking more hidden aspects
70 hours in and there's still plenty of things to do
I just like renovating the lounge so I didn’t need to be told to do it.
yeah same here
I think I was overqualified when I got the task.
Oh? Then like me, you probably just have to wait for the event to happen.
probably, was just wondering if there was any way to like restart it in order to get progress
You’ve probably done enough, just wait for when the game tells you that you’ve done it.
i just slammed something against the wall of that magma boat and it went flying off the screen lmao
clipped thru the wall and flew out
I think I'm in pretty good shape for trying to escape this time
aAGHHH I GET SO EXCITED WHEN I GET TO SEE PATROCLUS THAT I JUST CHOSE HIS DOOR OVER A DAEDALUS HAMMER
oop
I'm at da final Boss with 1 death defiance and one from lucky tooth
Got full health, 275 total, a buncha boons
Going with Malphon
some hammers
oh well a escape is a small price to pay for patrochilles progress
ah that sounds good! good luck buddy :)
deflect attack and dash
aphrodite special and cast
artemis aid
some other things i cba to remember cuz they're not on the left
AHHH THEY GAVE ME THE OPTION TO CHOOSE THE HAMMER AGAIN THIS IS EPIC....
i was under the impression the hammer didn't show up again if you denied it once pfft
^
yep
Also 2 Hermes boons
^^
2 hammers, 2 hermes, guaranteed every run
not guaranteed, but it's the max unless you use styx shop
ah i see 😳 yeah i think i've noticed that
someone here once said that the hammers didn't show up again if you were to skip it once and it's been haunting me ever since HAHAH
glad to know they were wrong tho
I lost.
||I did not know he had extra bars||
I'm done for the day
My nerves are completely shot
||Hades||?
did they change the rules? i thought it was a rule to spoiler that stuff until recently
As of two days ago, full spoilers are allowed in this channel (though you're totally allowed to spoiler tag things as a courtesy, if you wish)
The only channel remaining completely spoiler-free is #h1-for-new-players
ooh 😳
anyways i was fighting theseus and i invoked mort ,, theseus goes "I'M NOT AFRAID OF DEATH" and then immediately dies thanks to thanatos
lmao
mort?
I havnt seen artemis in bout 15 runs and im yet to give a nectar. Does loading first area and give up spam work to try find her?
You will understand a bit later in the game
Sure
oh no
so apparently if you try to collect troves while next to a chaos gate, the game takes the gate
rip 100+ darkness
sometimes i wish hypnos was a dating option but maybe he wouldn't be a good bf
AHSDJASHD
here is a hot take-
I wish that there was an endless mode-
you could just keep playing?
No like-
See how many chambers you can get through until you perish-
that sort of endless mode
Like risk of rain sort of deal
Enemies don't really get more powerful overtime in Hades tho
Yeah-
But that would be pretty fun-
just to see how powerful you can get
What if each chamber was a random assortment of enemies, and the mini/bosses were randomized?
yeah-
well, it starts from chamber order, then it becomes randomized
||also, i kinda wish hunting blades and freezing vortex affected all blade rift effects-||
I'd love that mode. Every 10 rooms or something some more conditions are applied
Oh yeah, that could probably work
and not just conditions from the p.o.p.
Would be so much fun
Hello! I've searched a bit on the internet but was unable to find, but is there a (official? maybe) sound file for the gdong that pierced butterfly makes after you clear a room?
@worthy cairn i can look for it later for you and dm you, feel free to nudge me if i forget through the weekend
i'm 99% sure i saw on the wiki that you had to get hermes from the styx shop only
well i just got him on one of the actual styx chambers
so turns out that's possible
Does anyone know the conditions to unlock ||ambrosia gifts|| with Hypnos? I've got it with pretty much everyone else by this point
||i'm pretty sure you have to talk with him with a 3 star plume||
Ok, thanks
think you misread that
it's pretty much rng
you have to have witnessed some scenes with ||thanatos talking with hypnos||
the plume is for hermes, not hypnos
it's like 4 convos?
about 7 in total
OH
oh wow that's more than i thought

i thought you said hermes not hypnos lmao
Thanks all
how much overall damage does concentrated volley do
thats like, +3 consecutive damage per hit?
yeah
are you using chiron?
hot dawg
if i understand the mechanic correctly
yeah it's nutty
esp if you get arty on the special and also relentless volley
i also have weak attack, hangover special, and low tolerance
this build is gonna get silly
whats ps again
privileged status
👀
mmmmmmmmmmm
poseidon
i tried 32 heat with poseidon last night. couldnt make it past the bull and the other guy.
i got 5 bloodstone with exit wounds and artemis x zeus boon but i wasnt even going for cast build
nothing like getting 2 eclipses in one run for 700 darkness for beating hades 👌👌
There might be a way to calculate when the game takes place
how exactly?
i just got 2 legendaries and 3 duos what the hell
i dont even have gods favor
of course there is. it takes place at 7:48.
So what's the deal with hammers?
I thought you got one during the first 2 areas, then the third.
But does that include if it shows up in the shop?
I.e., if you don't have the coin, you miss out on one?
Yeah, that can happen
But if you miss the one from the first two areas, you can get two in the third / one in the last area
That's a bummer. Dang.
Oh, ok. So they can still show up later. Just guaranteed.to pop up in their respective areas.
Thank you 💛
No problem
While I'm here:
|| I've only (accidentally) fought Charon once. How do you get the option to appear again? ||
That one is completely random...@cloud tusk
So it doesn't have to be like, a non-pre boss chamber shop?
@cloud tusk it won't happen in a pre boss chamber or in the last zone
7:48? I'm talking about like date
Oh man. I got almost all hidden aspects now except for the bow. And the one for exagryph is a lot of fun
I've unlocked the Spear's and Sword's hidden aspects. Trying to decide between unlocking the bow's or gun's hidden aspect next...🤔
I've long had enough titan blood in my bow but Artemis still hasn't told me the phrase
If I use the keepsake maybe that'll help
Yes
use the keepsake
thats what i did
as long as its not your first time using it
Oh and prob dont hold the bow, she might talk about the bow instead
I don't know where to put this so
https://twitter.com/SaoryEmanoelle/status/1357902167076667392?s=20
Zagreus: Oh, a Dyonisus boon. Surely, it will do nothing to me.
Zag later: https://t.co/ArWEHZlOuX
This just happened xD
w... what caused this??

Is that some sort of weird bug, or an extremely rare occurence when you have dio boons? I've never seen that before xD
I don't know their name in english but those hands that trap you with chains? Basically this animation plays when they do that... it so happened that the enemy died exactly when it attacked me xD Zag's stuck in the trapped animation but the chains broke when the enemy died lol
ohhhh
It doesn't really have anything to do with Dyo sadly but Zag looks so drunk it looks like it XD
hes just vibing
hahahah thats amazing
My guess is that Zag just got grabbed by a hand which then die and leaving him in that pose.
yeah, i also get that issue sometimes
but sometimes i'd also be dashing while the animation happens, so zagreus just perpetually walks drunk
I'm not sure
I think you can only get 2 hammers in a run
You're guaranteed to get at least one
the game will go out of its way to offer you 2 hammers, so if you skip one you should have another chance
if you get to styx with only 1 hammer, one of the satyr tunnels will have one
so yeah it’s possible to only ever get 1 hammer (or even 0 in theory) but you have to avoid getting one multiple times for that to happen
sea storm procs on every knock back right?
not just poseidon's?
like shield's knock back or sword thrust
This is a subjective question, but what do you guys think is the hardest weapon in the game?
not the shield
zagreus sword
hera bow
yes
ok thanks for the confirmation
Ramaaaaa
Wat?? I find Zag's sword to be so easy, I smash through baddies like crazy with it. My fastest time is with it!
as was said; it’s a subjective question
Im not a fan of the bow
Im not great with the sword either
Shield wouldve been my answer but aspect of zeus is pretty neat
im just bad with it 🥴🥴
it k im bad w/ rail
i think my thought process is “ohoohoho i hav a shield im invisible” and then i play stupidly
bull rush ftw
mm dash into traps 🥴
I just did a successful ||high heat|| run with chaos shield
I think I got the hang of it now
Neat
I can see why peeps prefer making builds for shield attack than special now
I started doing water gun runs to farm. its still funny 10 games later
do wine gun run
could i run hades with a Intel pentium silver N5000 1.10 and a UHD 605 and 8gb of ram
on how many fps and thanks for that
do you reckon it would be smooth
i dont need a lot i just dont want choppy gameplay
30 would do but consisient
I reckon it'd be somewhat smooth
lets go
im so glad because i cant afford a pc and ive heard so much about this
my laptop isnt very good but at least i can play this
i’ve had two chances to get more death defiance
this is the most times it’s ever happened qwq
i bought an athena boon right before the staircase store and i wanna fiGhT
last time I beat minotaur man my laptop crashed right after
now i’m waiting for my laptop to cool down before i keep going with Elysium 
I literally tried every single way to fix the "unable to read data" error... what's the FINAL solution?
ask in #h1-tech-support @shrewd forge
Sorry
do cyclops jerky stack? I bought like 3 and idk if it was worth
I kinda wish Hades showed achievements on the Switch...
@high island i'd like to make a challenge submission, how do i do so?
oh wait i just had to scroll right a little bit

that was totally on purpose https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/761220441049661442/807526058357162004/unknown.png
Anyway to check time-played without using Launcher? I own the Epic version, but I never keep the Epic Launcher open. Any way to track it in-game?
the run date might be a bit off because i'm in the philippines and here it's the 6th
ah, a fellow PHST dweller
Btw, does the in-game timer that shows at the victory screen work the same as TD timer? Like stops during fishing, dialogues, listening to Eurydice for 10 hours?
Yep in game timer will answer any questions you have about time keeping (during a run) its pretty generous
Ranculos you have to check the launcher, there's no in-game tracker for total time
another one of these amazing threads
That's just a link to the forums? Was there a specific thread you were trying to link?
damnit
How on earth did this get GOTY? You keep starting back at the beginning and fight the same old boring monsters over and over again. Like seriously, how many more of those glowing skulls and spiked-club dudes does this lame game really need?? Yeah, the voice acting and music is cool, WHOOP TEE DOO, that's not going to keep me interested in playin...
ok here it is
I thought that might be the case
At least be more creative or something
Say stuff like 'zagreus is a misogynist because aphrodite looks like aphrodite' or something
That's actually good bait
dude just took the phrase "i have no goddamn idea what a roguelike is" and stretched it to a full essay
if you're gonna say "game bad" at least try to make a good point
I mean it's very obvious bait
The profile pic is a question mark
Has never touched a single roguelite game before apparently
Finally watching the noclip videos on the making of and they're great!
Out of curiosity, anyone know what this knockback move is at 33:25 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQPk9J7spw0#t=33m25s) ?
We embed with the art and music teams at Supergiant Games to examine what it's like creating the visuals and soundtrack for Hades, while the game is still in early access.
Noclip's work is 100% crowdfunded. Consider becoming a member on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/noclip
Website: https://www.noclip.video
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Oh does the link timestamp not work for you? Seems ok on my end 🤔
i dont think it does on the embed, no
Timestamp worked fine for me. Are you just talking about the sword thrust?
when i click on it it works though
The sword's third strike has knockback by default
oh the embed, gotcha - and not the thrust, the radial push zag does
it's closer to 33:26 but that's kinda in the middle of the animation
ohh is that what it used to look like? neat!
I'd forgotten about that until just now, honestly
it's kinda neat but I guess thematically as the sword special the sword slam makes more sense
guys who's gonna tell him this is not a souls game?
I think he kinda misunderstood what rogulike/roguelite is
asterius is daddy
Is swearing here allowed?
nope
Dang
carnivorous bovine daddy
Is || Hades's call || (post-ending content) any good after they nerfed it to only have two sections on the bar? I enjoyed it when I could use it every couple of seconds, but now doesn't seem so exciting
its decent if you have aether's net or athena's proud bearing
ottherwise its eh
takes way too long to fill it
excuse me athena's wot
So I charmed redacted in ||EM4|| while ||he's regen-ing his health, he went "these souls are mine, boy"||

I fear what lies behind the black bars
man i wish we could see damage dealt when we finish the game
id like to see the millions of damage i racked up
could i run hades: cpu is intel Pentium silver N5000 1.10, Gpu is UHD 605 and i have 8 gb of ram
it might run okay at 720p, but I'm honestly not sure
Digmouse's suggestion is something worth giving a shot
yeah, biggest problem I can see you running into is cpu as minimum specs ask for a dual core cpu that can hit a frequency of 2.4GHz
The Pentium silver you have has a boost clock of 2.7 and I'm not sure if that's all core or the best core
yeah resolution
so that won’t be full screen rught?
you can run it full screen, it won't look as pretty is all at 720p
that’s fine i just want smooth gameplay
i don’t need ultra hd graphics
30 fps will do
still really nice that when i finally finished 32 heat on all weapons it happened to be on my 100th clear
for hades you want 60fps
30fps is really not ideal
for what it is worth, my ultrabook which has a i5 8265U + Iris HD 630, that is significantly faster than the pentium, has frame drops at 900p
back in october? or earlier i started playing hades
and in my first couple of runs i had this boon where you’d attach and get health back
i can’t recall who gave it, but did they remove it? I haven’t seen it since
oH WAS IT THE HAMMER?
cursed slash for sure
ye!!!
hidden sword :0?
it can work well with flurry strike or whatever the fast attacking hammer is
at that point you're going all in Zeus probably
take it if you have flurry strike first
if not, dont
although it's kinda OK on max zag aspect with the attack speed bonus
The power special shot you can get on the bow seems to be very high dps close range
Im thinking of trying it with doom
if there was like a custom mode where we could get all the boons and exact hammers we wanted
that would be so fun
i just want to be able to try out boons on skelly
Hmm
I think there's a mod for that but I'm not 100% sure, the Hades modding discord has a server invite link pinned in #self-promotion
thank you, i didnt even think about mods, duh.
You already own that configuration or plan to buy ?
oh ok
thats what i have
I had last boss do beams at me (the 3) and then turn around instantly and smack me in the face with them. 🤔
I don't think that's supposed to happen.
it is supposed to happen lol
youre just supposed to dodge them
yo guys i saw now on youtube someone playing hades, and ||the last boss hades left zag to pass without a fight|| , how to get that ?
how many times have you beaten hades?
i did it twice
now do it 8 more times
it happens eventually, progress more
oof, but will the ending change ?
zagreus isn't gonna get past his dad to talk to his mom only to die again forever
I wondered if you could still fight him when he did that. Didn't try cause didn't want to ruin the moment
Has never seen it and I'm at like 250 attempts...
he does turn around, just slowly lol
Yes I am saying he turned around instantly.
Like, did a 180.
I sometimes wish people take the time to read what was actually written.
Yeaaaaaah I should have had.
Was salty it basically resulted in me dying while I went into the fight with 0 DD but ||Demeter-Athena|| Duo. 🤣
Anyone having issues connecting controller after updating to mac big sur? It works in big picture mode but never since the update won’t when the game loads to the menu. Super frustrating pls help
#h1-tech-support @brisk trail
so.. when Dusa and Meg are in the lounge together, they start whispering to each other. for some reason that's the most adorable thing i've ever seen
Got all the achievements yay! ^^
gg
ya ever just have a god run and then em4 is like: "lol have a doomstone"?
I made it to the fight with hades on my 4th run, so Idk if I’m missing out on a bunch of dialogue now that like half the characters are gone from the home place
4th run?????? goddamn
huh
WTFFF?
can you beat Hades without talking to anyone, my brother wanted to try Hades and he has goober goblin gamer brain so he just runs straight to the weapon room, picks as the dark thirst follows then rinse and repeat.
But how tf did he beat the game on his fourth try
he's good it's that simple
I mean if it's the fourth total try, then I'm very impressed like holy
yeah i only have 2.3 hours in so far
definitely do post your win screen in #h1-victory-boasting 
yes you need to do that
I literally couldnt even get to beat meg on my 10th try
tho idk if this is just until i do another run, but the only characters in the house are skelly, cerberus, and hypnos :/
That's gotta be hard to do considering you would have almost no mirror upgrades
Every run escape or not. The characters on the house shift around
Tbey arnt always available to talk to either. Sometimes u can only listen to them and you cant gift them until the next run
You should be fine. Even if u keep winning I think. The dialogue should still play out but yea now u wont probably listen to everyone tell u how ridiculous u are for trying sense u made an escape
does anybody agree that legendary boons are a little underwhelming on average?
we have things like bad news, greater recall, splitting bolt and blackout
but there are things so inconsequential like, unhealthy fixation, second wave, divine protection.
some that are too much of a hassle to get, like fully loaded and winter's harvest. (vicious cycle is alright tho)
shouldn't the legendary boons be better?
Lots of them are good
Some are okay
But I wouldnt really call them underwhelming
the only good thing about some of them is the 435 coins if i'm not mistaken
Stuff like unhealthy fixation isnt great but its hilarious to watch
second wave is good for things like seastorm
I've only gotten a couple legendary boons and I dont even remember what they did so I dont recall them being game breaking or anything



