#h1-discussion

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supple basalt
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hint i got burn out afterall

brisk trail
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Yeah, and I know i'm gonna need to fulfil that prophecy at some point, but man do i not want to use that aspect

supple basalt
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pun not intended

lyric wharf
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Max as 20 ?

tall zodiac
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crit for 1.2k with artemis

lyric wharf
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Nice.

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Which weapon ?

tall zodiac
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i love ||excalibur||

lyric wharf
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I love it too.

brisk trail
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I cannot play without nemisis now

supple basalt
lyric wharf
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Nice

supple basalt
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when you go into the shop, see a fishing spot, and ignore it-

tall zodiac
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my worst weapon is probably spear

supple basalt
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i need to stop doing that this run, i got the boon even ffs smh

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mines bow without doupt

brisk trail
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mine are both the ranged ones

lyric wharf
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In term of how much I enjoy the hidden aspects, Sword > Bow > Railgun > Spear > Shield > Fists.

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I like all of them tho.

brisk trail
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even ||guan yu||

lyric wharf
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I'm not really into hidden fists tho but I just started to try it.

lyric wharf
brisk trail
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k

lyric wharf
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When I tried out hidden spear for the first time, I finished that run, at lvl 1 btw.

brazen lagoon
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ok

brisk trail
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huh

tall zodiac
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i love the ||gilgamesh fists||

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or rather ||claws||

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so much damage and speed

lyric wharf
tall zodiac
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artemis attack with ||excalibur||

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with some chaos attack boons

lyric wharf
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Nice, I also did that much with regular attacks with hidden sword.

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I still like hidden fists tho.

glass rain
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I finally finished a run with all the weapons! And surprisingly unlocked two aspects which was nice.

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Also. I DIDNT KNOW WE CAN FIGHT || CHARON. THE SELLER!!!|| That was cool

tall zodiac
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The fists does so much damage

brisk trail
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And I haven't tried since

glass rain
brisk trail
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better hope you see pat

runic parrot
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||his attacks are pretty easy to dodge, but just get hit by one pixel and you'll get hit like a truck. his wide swings and projectiles are annoying like that||

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kinda wanna try nemesis and boost my attack way up now

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maybe using hoarding slash

tall zodiac
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Ive tried hoarding slash with golden touch and side hustle

tall zodiac
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Reached ens with 2k gold

lyric wharf
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What about the damage ?

tall zodiac
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Was hitting 300 per hit i think

hearty bramble
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holy moly

lyric wharf
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Sounds pretty good.

tall zodiac
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The bonus damage doesnt work on crit but

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Its still really good

lyric wharf
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Yeah.

tall zodiac
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It was really tempting to spend money for the extra titan blood at the end too

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I had crazy runs too with big chop nemesis

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Doing back stab crits with 1k damage

hearty bramble
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imagine a nyx summon 😳

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like if u max rank all the CCs or something

runic parrot
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chthonic companions

lyric wharf
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I see.

sterile flicker
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so which chamber has the best music

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and why is it elysium

hearty bramble
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asphodel :)

sterile flicker
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no opinion on asphodel

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better than styx at least

weak hearth
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where can i find stuff such as the hammer and the pom of power in the codex?

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i cant see it

hearty bramble
hearty bramble
weak hearth
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was it not there before 1.0?

sterile flicker
hearty bramble
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elysium is great but something about it seems off to me idk

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like out of place

steady gate
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I hate elysium

sterile flicker
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oh in general i totally get

versed vessel
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carts?

sterile flicker
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armored archers PainandExhaustion

steady gate
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Armoured shields are worse

versed vessel
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Fighting teleporting Butterfly thing with Beowulf shield is just sad

steady gate
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And they have the transistor cell effect too

versed vessel
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i hate Archers more tbh

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it just

steady gate
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Well can't relate because I always prioritise athena dash

sterile flicker
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shields are annoying but generally status effects like hangover and doom get the job done

steady gate
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Sounds about right

versed vessel
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I never use athena dash except for that Athena + Ares duo tbh

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i like Poise dash more

steady gate
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What's poise dash

versed vessel
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poseidon dash?

steady gate
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Oh ok

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I like saying no u to projectiles

weak hearth
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im looking at the wiki for the codex

steady gate
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Rather than safe distancing the dash

weak hearth
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under artifacts im supposed to have so much more than what i do have

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is there supposed to be another codex upgrade from the contractor?

versed vessel
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they can't spam projectiles if i cc them to death

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or they cc me to death

tender fjord
weak hearth
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i not allowed to post screenshots but

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all i have is diamond, nectar, and ambrosia

steady gate
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What is cc

tender fjord
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ahhh

tender fjord
weak hearth
steady gate
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Oh ok

tender fjord
weak hearth
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i dmd you a screenshot

tender fjord
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aight

tall zodiac
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trippy shot with ||beowulf||

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so strong

spice hearth
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Love the purple clouds of pain

tall zodiac
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it does 1.5k damage on charge+3 casts loaded in

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deleted hades in underr a minute

tender fjord
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just checking - for the prophecy where you slay minibosses, does the dire snakestone appear randomly in the minboss doors in styx?

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i just can't seem to find that one minboss lol

livid otter
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I was 1% off for the "get 30% bonus damage with Thanatos's butterfly" achievement anguish

tender fjord
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welp

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time to pray to rng some more

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thanks!

thorny island
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Np

ancient crystal
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Before I type out a major spoiler question, do I have to put 2 ||'s or just one on each side of it?

hearty bramble
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Two

ancient crystal
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Oki thanks

hearty bramble
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|| like this ||

livid otter
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||yeah like this||

ancient crystal
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||skelly just gave me the quest to kill him with zag sword, does he really not come back after?||

brisk trail
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||You'll have to find out||

ancient crystal
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Well I dont want to ||lose my training dummy, so I kinda need to know whether or not I should||

thorny island
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||he does come back||

brisk trail
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boooo

ancient crystal
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Thanks wami

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I wouldn't have asked if I didn't want to know lmao

brisk trail
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You should do it even if ||he didn't come back||

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He deserves the best

ancient crystal
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Oh well

brisk trail
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Every other character should be removed and it should only be skelly

supple basalt
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welp, im doing a doom ||quan yu|| run ngl, going good so far

copper canopy
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“I sure hope I don’t die and drop all this loot!”
||-Skelly after being summoned||

supple basalt
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lol

copper canopy
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“Your mama presses olive oil!”
||-Skelly after Theseus is defeated||

flat halo
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Question

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When I have 1 lost death defiance

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Should I get premium kiss or recover 30% per chamber

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At 1 health

loud lintel
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what's the next chamber

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ohwait you cant see that

vapid narwhal
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how many DD do you still have

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if you still have 2 pick hp regen

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you can always get another from athena or well of charon

loud lintel
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well a DD is 50% health, but hp regen can potentially be worth 150% over 5 chambers

vapid narwhal
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if you lost a DD well of charon has a very high chance of offering one for 200 coins

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and you will have multiple wells from post Elysium and styx mini chambers

flat halo
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Is Flurry Cast with Festive Fog Bomb good

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I have 890 gold and trying to get diamond or Titan blood

plucky phoenix
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what's flurry cast

flat halo
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Cast consecutively

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Right now I need 110 or 310 more

plucky phoenix
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i wouldn't say it's a good combo

flat halo
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For diamond or Titan blood

plucky phoenix
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but im not that great at the game haha

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I've only made it to ||hades|| like 3 times

flat halo
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Aw yeah

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Penta rocket shotgun

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With wine flavor

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And Gun that deflects

vapid narwhal
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you can easily get 200 coins from a styx tunnel

tepid plover
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yall i just got a legendary and a duo back to back with ap2

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athena being hella generous

runic parrot
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||>perfect catch! shadesmile

bass shadedisgruntled||

plucky phoenix
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imagine having the fishing pole

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couldn't be me

flat halo
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The big boss is now mine

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Now I just need to figure out how to beat him with melee weapons

granite ether
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@runic parrot ||surface fish|| are spoilers in this channel as an fyi friendly

flat halo
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Why is fish so rare

hollow hawk
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You speak like someone who hasn't gotten the poseidon legendary

tepid plover
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unpopular opinion, divine protection should block chaos

flat halo
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What is Poseidon legendary

tepid plover
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one of them

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is a fishing legendary

tepid plover
hollow hawk
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yeah

runic parrot
brisk trail
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i was really surprised when i got that lol

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cause i was using the owl pendant

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and the first boon i got was poseidon

tepid plover
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yeah is a scripted run

tepid plover
flat halo
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Man

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Even after beating the boss, I realize 2/3 of my weapons haven’t gotten Ambrosia yet

tepid plover
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so

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everytime you fish, you need to clear like 10 chambers i believe, before another fish can spawn

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not sure if the exact number is 10

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but theres a minimum

hollow hawk
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oh damn

flat halo
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Seriously

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Anyone has a guide for non range weapons

runic parrot
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dont get hit

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dash like hell when you are about to get hit

flat halo
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Bruh

rapid forum
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stagger the hell out of the enemy

flat halo
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How do you use the sword well

brazen lagoon
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just dont get hit 4Head

flat halo
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Bruh

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But melee weapons get hit more quickly

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More often

runic parrot
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and i only use casts on poseidon

tall zodiac
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just hit em

runic parrot
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it's fun

brisk trail
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the ultimate strategy is space + m1 + q

tall zodiac
brazen lagoon
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The swords are probably the most difficult weapon set to use, especially as you increase the heat from the Pact of Punishment. The reason is probably because the optimal way to use the sword -- DASH STRIKES -- is not intuitive. Dash-striking not only increases your damage potential but offers huge defensive benefits as well. In this video, I wa...

▶ Play video
brisk trail
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and repeat

rapid forum
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dash strike is your best friend

runic parrot
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hey for all of you who use KBM, do you keep your keybinds on the default setting?

brisk trail
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yes

tall zodiac
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also there's like a thing for sword where if you dash during an animation for example pressing special and then dashing you can do specials much more safer.

rapid forum
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I put right click for special

runic parrot
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i couldnt stand special on q, i moved it to mb2 and moved cast to lshift

brazen lagoon
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special on q, cast on m2, dash on mb4

rapid forum
runic parrot
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yeah, me as well. with what limited mobility i have with WASD i dont want to relegate my ring finger to press q

rapid forum
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so use with caution

brisk trail
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i’m in too deep to change it

runic parrot
midnight salmon
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played this game for 50+ minutes, feels like a pro

brisk trail
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hell yeah

tall zodiac
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you're far away from the enemy, then as soon as you're on the enemy's face you fire off the special

brisk trail
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you’ve probably played it the longest out of anyone

tall zodiac
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that way its safer.

midnight salmon
brisk trail
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i hit 49 minutes and now steam says i’m not allowed to play anymore

tall zodiac
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you cut time a little bit

midnight salmon
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but to be honest now... i really played for slighty above 50 minutes.. its a good game but kinda overrated with all these positive reviews and hype

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its basically refreshed bastion with dead cells mechanics

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no more no less

vapid narwhal
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uh you are missing 99% of the content

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and systems

flat halo
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Story

brisk trail
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^

flat halo
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People love it for the story

vapid narwhal
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50 minutes isnt even touching the surface

flat halo
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And the gameplay is sturdy enough to support and complement the game

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It’s not the apex of rogue like

vapid narwhal
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it never tries to be the best roguelike

brisk trail
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yeah i’m actually surprised i haven’t burned out on this game yet

vapid narwhal
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it's entirely a thing of its own

brisk trail
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i usually do super quickly

flat halo
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But it has the depth of rogue like paired with Super giant’s flourish to make it more palatable to common people

vapid narwhal
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is it something super new? not really

flat halo
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It DOES succeed in being new

vapid narwhal
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but the way it blends genres and how everything just clicks, is something very rarely seen in the industry

flat halo
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By being one of the only, and best story rogue like

brisk trail
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Some would say it’s the best greek god themed rouge-lite

flat halo
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It IS unfortunate

vapid narwhal
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it's not just "a roguelike with a story"

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the roguelike part IS the story

flat halo
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That a great story and aesthetic cannot save a niche game

vapid narwhal
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and the story justifies the roguelike

flat halo
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Hence... Pyre

midnight salmon
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maybe i had too high expectations due to hype about this game... which ended bad for me.
tho i have other beloved games currently (and right here i just i mean games i play most of time recently) but ima move it to #off-topic-discussion or #video-games ? which one should i go

flat halo
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Sad

vapid narwhal
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both works

flat halo
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Who knew expectations ruin things. In other news, water is wet

midnight salmon
granite ether
midnight salmon
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im not into talking exactly about games just wrote about games titles, so neutral offtopic 👀

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ill back to hades at some point...

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just like i have to back to skyrim lol.. (still didnt finish this game lmao)

runic parrot
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say i have an athena boon, which i then purge, would that have a chance of removing her from the god pool or no?

flat halo
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Hooray

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Triple Styx refill

rapid forum
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ay, ||patty|| mvp

midnight salmon
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👀

vapid narwhal
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say if you already have picked boons from 4 gods, with 1 from athena, purging said athena boon will not release her spot for another god, you still have to force a 5th with keepsake

weak hearth
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is there a set build that speed runners try to go for?

runic parrot
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yeah that's what i thought. cheers.

weak hearth
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i’m sure there must be a certain build that’s suited for their task

flat halo
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FINALLY I DISCOVERED THE SAUCE

vapid narwhal
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cast aspects are in general considered very strong

weak hearth
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unlucky

vapid narwhal
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achilles spear, hera bow, hidden shields

weak hearth
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i literally only know how to use the sword

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and thats it

vapid narwhal
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followed by pure attack damage ones like hidden spear, hidden sword and eris rail

hollow hawk
vapid narwhal
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demeter fist is also a strong contender

hollow hawk
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eris rail is also a big one

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these are all weapon aspects, except for merciful end, which is a duo boon provided by ares and athena

ancient crystal
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I cant select ||a certain song on the chamber music page, it won't let me move the selection option past the first 2 songs||

vapid narwhal
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for any ||heat|| or 3 weapons the majority of aspects are viable

ancient crystal
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Pls help

hollow hawk
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if youre planning to get into speedrunning, i highly recommend watching wriste's video on it. @weak hearth you can search it up on youtube, titled "Speedrunning basics in hades"

weak hearth
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ty a lot

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im looking at reddit discussions and i see merciful end at the bottom for nearly every list

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which makes no sense to me as due to it i got my fastest clear yet

hollow hawk
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reddit isnt exactly the best place for hades guides id say

weak hearth
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i see

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is there generally a duo boon thats considered the best

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or is it just up to ur build so far

hollow hawk
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speedrun.com, or videos on youtube by people like haelian, wriste, tailesque etc are better

hollow hawk
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heartrend, hunting blades, merciful end, scintillating feast are among the best

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but then again, the game is well balanced enough so that you can make literally anything work

weak hearth
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can u recommend a duo boon that pairs along with ares? imo his boons fit my playstyle very well

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and yeah i agree

hollow hawk
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youve already experienced the best of ares' duo boons, which is merciful end

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also, you can check your codex for boons

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and their requirements

granite ether
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hunting blades (if you going a blade rift build)

hollow hawk
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hunting blades+achilles spear is very fun

weak hearth
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hunting blades is a cast duo boon right?

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i should try that, i never really optimize my cast

granite ether
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merciful end is a great duo on things like zeus shield, fists, zag sword and there's probably a few more where it's good

weak hearth
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yeah so typically i get divine flourish and divine dash

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and then merciful end does a boatload of dmg and athenas boons make u invincible

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so then its ggez

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but any other build and i get pooped on lmao

runic parrot
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i have touches of styx that lets me SD into 80% of my original health... heres hoping i get a 2 sack

flat halo
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GODDDANG

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It’s so hard to kill the final boss

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With a melee weapon

vapid narwhal
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hunting blades build is one of the strongest in the game

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get a few hits in, dash out

flat halo
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Should I be in a rush to get the 4 contractor resource upgrade

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Gem - nectar - key - darkness

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Or the Erebus

granite ether
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I'd personally go the resource upgrades before ||erebus||

flat halo
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I’m debating whether to save coins for the final buy

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Or to spend them to clear the boss without any punishment

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Which I’m having troubles with using close range weapons

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Won only twice

granite ether
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in the order of, darkness, nectar, gem, key (again my personal preference)

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ayy that's pretty good going 2 wins is still 2 wins klinkCozy

vapid narwhal
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erebus is in general lower priority

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get everything else

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first

flat halo
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At least I can now consistently dunk on everyone else at no heat, and the squad +1

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Slowly but surely

brisk trail
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I got erebus first and have not gone through a single gate

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So yeah do the others first

granite ether
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the best feature about ||erebus|| is ||the onions bittieSmug|| I guess the ||getting better stuff ||is pretty cool too

flat halo
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So, I ask

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Which should I go for first

brisk trail
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probably no heat with everything

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banned

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lmao

granite ether
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do you have a weapon(s) you like particularly?

flat halo
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Range

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The choices are: farm obols for the good stuff, clear no heat with everything, clear higher heat no final boss (+1-2)

brisk trail
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def no heat

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the prophecy gives you a lot

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and honesty isn’t that hard to do

granite ether
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you can push heat with those weapons if you find that fun whilst doing no heat runs with the other weapons in between ^_^
as you'll get resources (specifically the rare ones) faster now you've done first clears, purely because you have access to the ||pact of punishment||

flat halo
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I mean, losing out on 1000-1200 obol worth of boon and Pom

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Is a lot

granite ether
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so your best bet is to do what you find fun really

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there's no "best" way to get the most out of Hades

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for me, I ended up playing almost primarily fists for the longest time before switching up weapons 😂
but I'm also in the vast minority in that

tender fjord
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ok ngl i did that exact same thing

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lmao i just played fists for 10 consecutive runs, then used sword once for a change and got my first clear zaglol

flat halo
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My fist got the highest kill count thanks to darkness

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My bow got an expensive ass aspect

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And my gun cleared the game, twice

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Shotgun wine rocket is whack

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One Chop Critical Backstab sword almost got it, but oof

vapid narwhal
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clear no heat once on each weapon

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then start to work up the ladder as you wish

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preferrably find one aspect from each weapon you like the most

steady gate
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I'm surpised I did one with bow once I got flurry shot

vapid narwhal
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flurry is fantastic with chiron

steady gate
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Yes it does dummy damage

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Even better with artemis

tender fjord
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should I upgrade fated persuasion to 1 point, or should i get god's pride from 10% to 20%?

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i have maxed god's legacy, but i switch between the 2 depending on the run

steady gate
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I use fated authority

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So

runic parrot
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grind more darkness so you can get best of both worlds

tender fjord
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ok fair

hollow hawk
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@tender fjord if youve maxed god's legacy, but still want to go god's pride from time to time, id recommend putting darkness into fated persuasion and then resetting your mirror using keys each time you want to switch to god's pride

tender fjord
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O SHOOT

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i didnt even think of that

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thank you @hollow hawk

hollow hawk
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yw!

craggy barn
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what do i need to do to unlock sculpture, heroic and the fountain in the west hall?

supple lodge
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got the line from dionysus that says that thanatos guy brings down the vibe at parties and makes the mood kinda eehhhh

craggy barn
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oh he's still a great guy he's just a bit introverted

flat halo
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Man, it’s gonna be hard playing every weapon up to 20 heat

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That’s the limit right? And 32 for achievement

supple lodge
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gotta get that ||epilogue|| real fast now lol

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i want thanatos to party with dio

supple lodge
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honestly i just want to see him interact with the olympians

flat halo
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Family Favorite or Privileged Status?

hollow hawk
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depends on your build really @flat halo, if youre going for a build that can easily trigger privileged status, then go for it. if not, then go for ff

flat halo
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Olympian Favor or Dark Foresight

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I’m mid game

hushed pumice
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Foresight

flat halo
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1.6k darkness, having just unlocked those

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And I’m at the level of beating final boss sometimes with range

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Not yet with melee

hushed pumice
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It's always foresight.

hollow hawk
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id actually recommend going olympian favor if you're still farming currencies such as darkness nectar etc

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once youve finished with that, instantly switch to foresight

hushed pumice
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Don't do that

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Foresight helps you win runs, which means more rewards for clearing.

vapid narwhal
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^

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you get a lot of darkness and gemstones from boss kills

supple lodge
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oops.....i have olympian favour

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time to make the switch

vapid narwhal
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these outweigh any currency you gain from regular rooms

hollow hawk
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for gems, that is

vapid narwhal
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you get like, 500 darkness alone from 4 boss kills

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if you are not on a bounty run

hollow hawk
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again, thats for darkness only

flat halo
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I got Keep

hollow hawk
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not gems or nectar

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then go foresight, yeah

flat halo
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What of nectar then

vapid narwhal
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nectar isnt a problem once you get a healthy stack of keys and gems

hollow hawk
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yeah you can exchange stuff at the broker

flat halo
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Okay

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So Foresight

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Privileged versus Favorite?

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Currently going for achievements

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And clearing everything at 0 heat, then 1 heat, then so on

hushed pumice
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Favorite

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Priv is better on maybe 1

flat halo
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Is it good enough to last until 20 heat

hushed pumice
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Sure

jaunty bay
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lmao i got em3 theseus stuck driving against a pillar. The drops from ||sissyphus summon|| collided with him and pushed him off path

craggy barn
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i finally did ||em4|| just so i could listen to ||the unseen ones|| and it's absolutely worth it

flat halo
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Question

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When do you guys save for the 1000 or 1200 at the end of the run

craggy barn
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??

loud lintel
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i do it every run

supple lodge
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I made it all the way to elysium with only one upgradeable boon

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Is this a bad or good thing

jaunty bay
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i just took 30 damge while at 100 health and instantly died. okay game sure

craggy barn
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this is a real rng moment

rapid forum
#

So I was thinking

#

has anybody make Hades drinking game?

craggy barn
#

each time you apply a stack of hangover take a shot

#

each time you use trippy shot drink a glass

rapid forum
#

damn son

craggy barn
#

when you proc bad influence drink a whole ass bottle

supple lodge
#

thanatos drinking game: take a shot every time you take damage

craggy barn
#

screw it, if you get black out throw a feast

tall zodiac
#

i like olympian favor

#

i like rare+

#

picking common boons looks stinky

rapid forum
craggy barn
#

common boons are meh but they're not that bad, nothing a few pomegranates can't help with

rapid forum
#

I was about to say this applies to plume run

#

but plume run is way easier

#

unless with ||jury summons 3||

supple lodge
#

divine dash is usable at common rarity

tall zodiac
#

grey boons stinky looking

#

yeah there's boons that's fine being common but

#

i like colors

craggy barn
#

you shouldn't even be able to use poms on divine dash

#

literally nobody uses it for the damage

rapid forum
#

dash only run dusa

brazen lagoon
#

Common divine dash is good for the entire run

#

divine dash only would take forever

rapid forum
#

that's the fun

tall zodiac
#

i still do use divine dash foor damage

#

a bit of damage

#

but i never focus on it

craggy barn
#

blade dash runs actually work apparently

rapid forum
#

poseidon dash works better

#

tried both

tall zodiac
#

i had a run where I had blade dash, rift blade cast and blitz disc

#

all the swirlies

brazen lagoon
#

Blade and poseidon dash are both completely viable for dash only runs

#

Zeus would be fine too

rapid forum
#

sea storm ftw

brazen lagoon
#

Aphro would be kinda eh

#

Dionysus is pain

tall zodiac
#

i think you can do it with zeus too

rapid forum
#

zeus is nice for bosses

tall zodiac
#

prolly slower than blades and water

rapid forum
#

jolt is pretty gud

tall zodiac
#

dual bolt and dodge before getting hit and jolt

rapid forum
#

high voltage

#

yeeeee

flat halo
#

Damn

#

Delta gun and Zeus

loud lintel
#

artemis boons work with nemesis crit right

hushed pumice
#

Of course.

#

Nemesis simply gives your attacks crit chance after special

somber star
#

Yeah

leaden shore
#

Does the boon that makes life gain effects more potent apply to the life steal of ||guan yu||?

manic moat
#

I switched from the rare mirror to dark foresight

tall zodiac
#

Yeah it should

manic moat
#

and all the peepee poopoo colourless boons are so yuck I dont even wanna take them

tall zodiac
#

Lol

runic parrot
tall zodiac
#

Do you literally roll out boons too if you dont see any rare+

#

I do

trail pendant
#

I've just beaten ||Charon||

leaden shore
#

tru

unborn remnant
#

Havent done that yet

manic moat
#

that is an amazing feeling

trail pendant
#

used only 1 DD

manic moat
#

epic

somber star
#

How do you fight ||Charon||

spice hearth
#

||steal from him||

outer dew
#

Just run

#

Just freaking run

#

oh nvmd

somber star
#

||How do I steal from him||

outer dew
#

||There will be a pouch in the store||

spice hearth
#

||there's a little baggy in one of his mid shops||

tall zodiac
#

There will be and its random

#

I havent seen it that much

spice hearth
#

it will never show up in the shop before the boss

somber star
#

Oh it has to be a mid shop

spice hearth
#

and will never show up in styx

tall zodiac
#

Have to meet him in the middle of the zone

runic parrot
#

||your chance will come after you complete some runs. visit his mid-region store (not the one before the final boss), and there will be a chance there will be a pouch behind him. steal it and get wrecked by his absolutely damaging attacks||

loud lintel
#

||stealable bag of gold only shows up in mid shop at 1/3 chance||

somber star
#

I'll fight him some time

spice hearth
#

Tip for the fight: while his attacks hit hella hard, his patterns are fairly predictable, its just a matter of getting used to them

outer dew
#

Its really hard

#

But yeah you just have to remember his moveset

#

Watch out for the oar slaps

manic moat
#

I alays get him on the first shop which so sad because I'm nowehere near ready to fight him at that point

#

but later noooo just doesn't appear

outer dew
#

And try and get athenas dash if you can if you want to fight him

tall zodiac
#

Hes very easy to dodge

#

But he hits hars

manic moat
#

and has a lot of helth

outer dew
#

||Although you don't have to take out his full health||

flat halo
#

Question

#

Darkness - keys - nectar - gem

#

What to spend diamond to renovate first

outer dew
#

Darkness

hollow hawk
#

i would recommend going darkness-nectar-keys-gems

outer dew
#

Yeah

#

Bcs the rolls in the mirror cost a lot

somber star
#

I would also say get vanquishers keep

meager steppe
#

The fight with the oarsman is a bit predictable, but he hits super hard and his range is enormous.

#

I know people suggest divine dash which is actually very nice, but I prefer having extra dashes as well.

#

You want to be well out of reach when you see an incoming attack.

#

And you’ll still get wrecked.

flat halo
#

I finally upgraded the Chiron to max

#

What aspect should I work on next

hollow hawk
#

like all things in the game, depends on what you like the best

#

if you like the rail, eris can be a good aspect to focus on

#

id also recommend trying out and unlocking every aspect before going deep into one specific aspect

#

you might find that you like an aspect of a weapon that you hated

outer dew
#

Yeah whats your favorite weapon

loud lintel
#

some aspects have much better lv1 than others though

#

hera bow is a great lv1 aspect

outer dew
#

Yes

flat halo
#

I can play every weapon

outer dew
#

As well as ||lucifer||. Its not great but its hella fu

flat halo
#

But I only win with range ones so far

outer dew
#

fun

flat halo
#

For now, my WINNING play style is long range burst and run

#

With 1 case of absolute machine gun zap + artillery

#

Because when I go melee I go yolo and mix in dash and attack to the point of confusion

#

Haven’t gotten down the sneak attack dynamic of melee yet

outer dew
#

With ||lucifer|| what you can do is rebind the attack to zr and you can continously dash around while the damage still ramps

flat halo
#

So what ONE aspect would you recommend for rail gun

outer dew
#

Eris if you want consistent wins

flat halo
#

Okie

#

What about spear

outer dew
#

Achilles

#

||Guan yu|| is the most fun for me but incredible hard to use

flat halo
#

Okay

#

What of sword

runic parrot
#

nemesis is great for crits

#

if you can get used to the hidden sword's playstyle, it is also great for crits

outer dew
#

They're all really good but nemesis for speedruns, poseidon is kinda fun and also good and the hidden is very consistent with big numbers

runic parrot
#

if youre looking for a cast build, poseidon sword might be the one for you

outer dew
#

Im just gonna list my opinions for the best aspect for each weapon

runic parrot
#

tbh i love all the swords

outer dew
#

Sword-||Arthur||

runic parrot
#

same goes for bow except for zag

flat halo
#

Is Fist special good

outer dew
#

Spear-achilles

#

Shield-chaos

#

bow-hera/||rama||

#

fists-demeter

#

rail-eris

outer dew
flat halo
#

Ah

loud lintel
#

TIL Giga cutter works with dash upper now

#

thats nice

thin socket
#

with 90 dmg?

flat halo
#

God’s Legacy or God’s Pride

outer dew
#

Completely depends on what build you're trying to do

#

If your build relies on a duo, go legacy

flat halo
#

No build defined

loud lintel
#

it did hit 6 times though

#

so it was more damage than regular giga cutter

outer dew
#

Demeter fists work insanely well with merciful end

grand shale
#

guys i cant get the one fated list thing for beating all minibosses what am i missing

#

I beat tiny vermin and satyr cultist and seemingly all the rest for the other two underworld sections

#

how many minibosses are there per section??

desert meadow
#

Tartarus has 3, Asphodel has 4 (3 different rooms, one of them has 2 enemies that are both listed), Elysium is just 1, and Styx has 4.

grand shale
desert meadow
#

That's the one

sharp fossil
#

asterius isn’t technically a miniboss

desert meadow
#

^

grand shale
#

oh

#

so then i guess i finally have to go through the boss doors in styx shadegrief

#

i avoid them at all costs just cuz

sharp fossil
#

they’re not that bad once you get the hang of them

desert meadow
#

^

outer dew
#

Going the boss doors are the best way to get satyr sacks

grand shale
#

really?

sharp fossil
#

well

desert meadow
#

You'll want to learn them for whenever you get stuck with a 4 or 5 sack anyway

sharp fossil
#

kinda

leaden shore
#

Got thru aspho in 10 minutes

grand shale
#

i usually end up getting the stack after the second or third door, very rarely does it take longer than that

sharp fossil
#

they aren’t more likely to have the satyr sack, but they go faster so they’re good for speedrunning

grand shale
#

oooohhh

#

coool

#

thx

delicate rivet
#

Boss doors are better rewards and arguably easier than normal rooms

outer dew
#

oh

outer dew
#

Yeah I just take the boss doors when I want to speedrun

grand shale
#

faster cant always mean easier

#

can it?

leaden shore
#

would u rather fight butterfly ball or a bunch of flame wheels

outer dew
grand shale
#

hmm

outer dew
#

The only crappy mini boss is tiny vermin

leaden shore
#

exactly

grand shale
#

yeah that was a tough one

outer dew
#

Its so freaking annoying

leaden shore
#

i hate chonky satyr

outer dew
#

With companion its easy

grand shale
#

vermin stole all my death defies and screwed me over in hades fight last time

leaden shore
#

F

outer dew
#

Especially meg since it attacks instantly

#

I can never land meg on tiny vermin which makes it so annoying

leaden shore
#

i caught poseidon commenting on how im going speedy

copper canopy
#

Okay so important question

leaden shore
#

thanks uncle for noticing

supple lodge
#

zag said "piss off" zaglol

outer dew
#

so how exactly does the hermes would be jealous work. Ive gotten in like 4-5 times and I dont know what the requirements are

sharp fossil
outer dew
#

ok

sharp fossil
#

you can also drop it as it’s coming out of the ground, but that requires some practice to get the timing right

copper canopy
#

(HUGE SPOILERS)||Megaera is asking Zagreus to come over to her in his room, with the choices to go to her or ease off. How important is this choice?
It says follow my heart, and I want to say yes.||

grand shale
#

i was using hades varatha when i fought tiny vermin and i had the ranged hammer upgrade so it was fairly easy

outer dew
#

Not important at all

#

Buuuut

#

yeah

copper canopy
outer dew
#

i mean I did it

copper canopy
#

My main concern is if

copper canopy
#

||it locks me out of the other relationship routes||

outer dew
#

no it does not

full nexus
#

it won't

copper canopy
#

Okay, thanks

runic parrot
delicate rivet
#

It’s a video game so zero importance

sharp fossil
supple lodge
#

The real crime is no skelly romance route 😔

outer dew
#

||For me after I did it with meg, a few runs later meg had a hear above her head and it did the same thing over again||. Is this supposed to happen?

sharp fossil
outer dew
#

ok

sharp fossil
#

oh boy look this channel has become #hades-[REDACTED]-discussion

outer dew
#

lmao

neon kelp
#

hades is too

#

special

#

i just cant find other game

#

like hades

#

its too fun

outer dew
#

My favorite game is probably breath of the wild but hades is a very close second

copper canopy
#

||0/10, didn’t get to finally play my board game with someone||

digital python
#

why is megara ||smiling|| so... cursed

copper canopy
#

But that was rather sweet. Thanks for the help.(even if I would’ve picked the affirmative option anyways)

copper canopy
loud lintel
#

stuff like dio/ares cast isnt good with hidden shield since you have to wait a while before getting the bloodstones right?

livid otter
#

I only have 40 hours in Hades but I think it's taken the spot of my new favorite roguelite

copper canopy
#

Also considering she can do that outside ||her route||, I’m not sure it’s technically a spoiler

livid otter
#

Everything about it is just so damn good

copper canopy
#

Not sure what my favorite game of all time is, but I’m pretty sure it’s Kid Icarus: Uprising.

outer dew
#

Yeah the only reason BOTW is better for me is bcs I've played it for 3 years, put 100 + hours into it and was like my first "really good" videogame

copper canopy
#

I still need to play BOTW, problem is it’s a bit of a commitment

meager steppe
sterile flicker
#

yeah hades has to be top 3 next to titanfall 2 and link to the past for me

#

so much replayability

outer dew
#

BOTW just feels so magical playing

copper canopy
#

Seriously, play Kid Icarus: Uprising.

sterile flicker
#

i will if its ported

meager steppe
#

I’ve saw a trippy flare build last night that hit for 6k

copper canopy
#

I think it’s just a me thing that I put it as my favorite of all time.

loud lintel
#

hmm might give it a shot then

livid otter
#

It's hard for me to choose a favorite

#

But I think it would be Darkest Dungeon

copper canopy
#

It has like every single thing I love in a video game

meager steppe
#

The slicing shot is a bit different. It can be good but you want to have some additional boons to modify it.

loud lintel
#

hunting blades probably

meager steppe
#

If you can get hunting blades you should be in business.

fleet narwhal
#

damnit i do want botw but its 60 bucks

copper canopy
#

Also Light vs Dark is such an innovative and fun multiplayer mode

loud lintel
#

does the trippy flare fog last the same as a regular festive fog? or is it shorter like ares's cast is

meager steppe
#

Add the ||Demeter||duo and legendary and it might as well be a black hole.

copper canopy
#

||That name||

meager steppe
copper canopy
#

||No seriously that should be censored||

meager steppe
#

That one?

copper canopy
#

||Demeter doesn’t appear until you’ve beaten the game at least once||

meager steppe
#

I’ll never get used to this.

#

No. Doesn’t appear until you get to the surface.

desert meadow
#

||Nope, she pops up once you reach Hades once, you don't have to beat him||

meager steppe
#

But still.

loud lintel
#

hmm

copper canopy
#

||Close enough||

#

It’s courteous

meager steppe
#

I understand.

#

Sorry for my carelessness.

copper canopy
#

||Also I wouldn’t know since I beat it the first time I got to the surface.||

meager steppe
#

Took me three battles

desert meadow
#

||Dang, nice job||

copper canopy
desert meadow
#

Took me uh, at least 10

copper canopy
outer dew
#

After reaching the surface it took me 3

meager steppe
#

If it’s any consolation, actually escaping took me 49 attempts.

outer dew
#

Also is it just me or is there delay for the cast deployment on ||beowulf||

desert meadow
#

That's not a consolation, I took 80 lol

meager steppe
#

Ohhhh

outer dew
#

Took me around 35

meager steppe
#

Sorry.

brazen lagoon
#

Took me about 17 years to actually beat final boss

copper canopy
#

||I actually expected a second form the first time around, and half expected a third||

meager steppe
#

Awkward

brazen lagoon
#

Felt good when I did tho

outer dew
#

I just ran around jumping everywhere

loud lintel
#

lmao

outer dew
#

It felt soooo godd

#

*good

loud lintel
#

hidden shield with the charged shot hammer

#

is basically hera bow

copper canopy
desert meadow
#

Charged shot is my favorite shield hammer tbh

#

Feels much safer

copper canopy
#

Internally I was panicking hoping not to screw it up

copper canopy
worldly canyon
#

I had a lot of fun when I got the Duo boon that guarantees epic quality boons

flat halo
#

I will have to say

copper canopy
#

ABSOLUTELY

flat halo
#

Why does my gun glow with darkness

#

SO DAMN OFTEN

desert meadow
#

Bad luck I guess

copper canopy
flat halo
#

It’s the weapon with the highest heat

worldly canyon
#

Hermes gave me loads of dashes and I had the Dionysus dash hangover ability, just glided about and let enemies kill themselves

copper canopy
#

The question mark is because I legitimately don’t know if that’s why

leaden shore
#

I dont take hermes' extra dash

leaden shore
#

since im hardwired to pressing dash twice

desert meadow
#

I assume it's just bad rng

flat halo
#

I guess it’s RNG

desert meadow
leaden shore
#

for some reason i thought dorkness changes to a different weapon every run

copper canopy
desert meadow
#

It should?

leaden shore
#

yea it should

desert meadow
#

I've only seen the same weapon get dark thirst twice in a row once

leaden shore
#

mashing buttons? whats that

#

bow moment

copper canopy
leaden shore
#

its not a typo haha

loud lintel
#

wait i just realized

leaden shore
#

i say dorkness for funny factor

copper canopy
loud lintel
#

hera bow at max level has a 5 sec bloodstone drop time

#

same as festive fog duration

leaden shore
#

dang

copper canopy
#

Even as a bow user, I still mash to dodge

loud lintel
#

why do people prefer aphro cast over dio cast for hera bow then

#

isnt dio cast more damage?

leaden shore
#

i only press buttons as much as i need to

trail plover
#

I have the theme song stuck in my head.

outer dew
#

Because you can pick it up quicker

trail plover
#

The music for this game is so good.

leaden shore
#

aphro cast more damage i think

outer dew
#

Is it just me or is the cast deployment slow on ||beowulf||?

leaden shore
#

but dio stuns and has big range

#

so

outer dew
#

But you can cycle thru casts quicker with aphro

copper canopy
desert meadow
leaden shore
#

yes

copper canopy
loud lintel
copper canopy
#

||She made adorable dolls||

leaden shore
#

aphro better for spamming i think then

meager steppe
#

I’d guess it’s the added backstab damage.

desert meadow
#

||True true||

loud lintel
#

ah for the smaller mobs that get instagibbed?

meager steppe
#

Usually I’ll dash in swing then do a tiny charge.

leaden shore
#

also is there a difference between festive flare and trippy shot

meager steppe
#

I end up behind 9/10 times.

copper canopy
#

Aphrodite also has the highest increase to damage of all the attack boons

leaden shore
#

ya

desert meadow
#

Yeah

#

Though Artemis' crits get higher, it's not every single hit

leaden shore
#

thats like the only boon of hers i look forward to gettin bouldy

desert meadow
#

Really?

copper canopy
#

So maybe this is a well known fact, but if it isn’t I’d say it’s important that people should be aware of this.

desert meadow
#

She has one that lets weak foes take more damage, that's also worth getting

meager steppe
#

I almost never take the aphro cast. I just got the extendo on it last run.

leaden shore
#

i spend more time dodging than spam attacking so

copper canopy
#

I was having a run and arrived at Elysium with no hammer upgrades, then I came across one. Soon after, I came across another one.

leaden shore
#

health isnt super duper important to me

meager steppe
#

I use weak a lot. Just not in cast.

desert meadow
#

^

leaden shore
#

gimme divine dash and some dmg ups and im set

copper canopy
#

So two hammers can appear in Elysium if you haven’t gotten any before

desert meadow
#

Yeah

copper canopy
#

It’s not one per region max

desert meadow
#

You have to get one by then I think

meager steppe
#

Aphro attack on bow is exquisite

leaden shore
#

does hammer have a rly high chance of appearing on elysium chamber 1

#

or is that just me

copper canopy
#

The cap is still two hammers per run

desert meadow
#

So if you've missed it till then, it forces two in elysium

flat halo
#

So I ask

#

After getting plunder

desert meadow
flat halo
#

Is gem for decorations

copper canopy
leaden shore
#

same with hermes for aspho room 1

copper canopy
flat halo
#

And key for nectar and mirror

leaden shore
#

ive like always gotten a hammer on elysium 1, and if i dont, i reroll and then get it

#

its interesting

copper canopy
#

Early game it’s good for trading

desert meadow
#

^

flat halo
#

So after getting mirror, is key for nectar only

desert meadow
#

Great to get keys then nectar if you're low

leaden shore
#

rerolls too

copper canopy
#

I like Fated Persuasion too much

#

So I don’t do that

leaden shore
#

rerolls are kinda neat to have sometimes

desert meadow
#

^

#

Grab keys on runs for the rerolls, yeah

flat halo
#

Slowly, but surely

leaden shore
#

theyre not like very important but its an option

copper canopy
#

They are, I like them both

flat halo
#

I am capable of beating final boss while buying 1000-1200 item in the last shop

desert meadow
#

I've saved my runs by rerolling for a boon I want a few times

copper canopy
#

Anyways, off to do a zero boon run. Seeya~

desert meadow
#

Good luck

flat halo
#

So zero boon run and zero mirror run

leaden shore
#

i have gotten satyr sack on the second chamber literally every time

#

i dont know whats happening

meager steppe
#

Keep 15 keys for limited time offer in shop.

flat halo
#

Is mainly for dialogue?

leaden shore
#

its scaring me

copper canopy
#

Okay but now bye

leaden shore
#

bye

flat halo
#

Is there both

#

No boon no mirror

#

Zero heat

leaden shore
#

i cannot recall a time where i havent got satyr sack on the second try

meager steppe
#

There’s dialogue for sitting down. What is there not dialogue for?

leaden shore
#

tru

#

there's dialogue for turning the timer on

flat halo
#

You guys sit down?

#

How

#

What timer

leaden shore
#

settings

meager steppe
#

||we don’t. But there is dialogue for it. I’m using spoilers so people think there is a sitting side quest.||

desert meadow
#

||Best sidequest, 10/10, would replay again||

leaden shore
#

||^^||

leaden shore
#

its uncanny tho

#

its kinda scarin me

runic parrot
meager steppe
#

I have been getting a lot of 4th and 5th room sacks. Not complaining. Love the late fountain.

desert meadow
#

I tend to get 3 sacks the most

runic parrot
#

rng has been particularly nice to me lately

leaden shore
#

ive been cursed with 2nd room sack

flat halo
#

So I ask

runic parrot
#

ive been getting clutch 2 sacks after getting touch of styx dark

leaden shore
#

i mean im not complaining but the frequency is getting concerning

desert meadow
#

I wouldn't call that a curse per se

flat halo
#

Is mid game getting achievement and heat

#

And late game is getting ambrosia

leaden shore
#

"found it fast this time" yeah, u found it fast every other time

desert meadow
#

True, good point

leaden shore
#

i am rich with ambrosia

#

dio is proud of me

digital python
meager steppe
#

@flat halo general rule is just play. Set goals. Achieve goals. Set new goals.

#

I’m working on farming blood for aspect upgrades.

leaden shore
#

im not complaining but it happens literally all the time

digital python
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u r blessed lol

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im tryna keep up a streak so getting the sack early is fantastic cuz i do not want to encounter the tiny vermin

leaden shore
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babi verm

hollow hawk
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5 sacks only have like 1.5% chance of happening

digital python
supple lodge
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tiny mouse ate my DDs

leaden shore
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ah ok

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good to know

digital python
dull tangle
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sigh

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i got to ||the second half of the final fight|| ;(

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:(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((

outer dew
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might wanna spoiler that

loud lintel
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what are good hidden rail builds?

runic parrot
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super soaker is cool

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pos on attack

meager steppe
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I just did a hangover attack run. It was pretty fun.

rich acorn
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How plausible does a maxed zag fists run with lambent plume and a time limit where I try to max out dodge chance sound?

meager steppe
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Pretty plausible.

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There’s a video with 160% dodge chance.

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My first clear was with talos and the plume.

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Talos helps close the gaps for quick toon clears though.

digital python
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how do u unlock the fourth aspects of the weapons btw

meager steppe
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Various character interactions and upgrades trigger it. Short answer is keep playing.

digital python
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ah

desert meadow
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Yeah

leaden shore
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its in the pins somewhere

outer dew
unborn remnant
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My songlist for if Zagreus made it into Smash Bros:
No Escape
The House of Hades (New Arrangement)
Out of Tartarus
Through Asphodel
Good Riddance (New Arrangement)
The King and the Bull
Lament of Orpheus (Underground Mix)
God of the Dead
||Final Expense (Payback Mix)||
||The Unseen Ones||
||In the Blood||

desert meadow
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Aw, no OoT remix?

unborn remnant
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og is sick

desert meadow
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True

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But more metal can't hurt

unborn remnant
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true

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I'll give you that

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Good Riddance remix would be sick, especially if they did it in the style of Beneath the Mask

desert meadow
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^^^^

leaden shore
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asterius moment

carmine ravine
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how the hell the announcement got bombarded with reactions in 0.1 sec

past pollen
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Hades

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Is a good game

desert meadow
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Yes

carmine ravine
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damn bro never heard of it

past pollen
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Uh

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Why r ppl like this

sterile peak
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intriguing

turbid talon
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Coooool

fluid urchin
swift mist
cinder crest
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ı have a question
hades is game of the year right? beacuse tlou 2 did not get the award

spice hearth
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well depends on who you ask

copper canopy
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Hades got best action game though

outer dew
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Moist rated it the best game of 2020

copper canopy
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(HUGE SPOILERS)||I’m supposed to get turned down by Dusa, right? I even got the bond forged thing for it.||

copper canopy
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Okay thanks, wanted to make sure I didn’t screw something up.

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Also I completed the boonless run. First attempt, aside from beating Charon for kicks, literally everything that could go wrong did and I lost.
Second attempt I got a Daedalus Hammer at the start even though I wanted to avoid those. Other than that, it was pretty easy since I didn’t have the horrid luck from the first run~

outer dew
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nice

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What aspect?

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My choice if I were to do one would be ||Arthur||

copper canopy
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First attempt was ||Rama||, but despite being my go to, the slow charge was annoying me on top of everything going wrong, so I switched to default for second.

crystal marten
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I really hope Playstation and Xbox get Hades sometime soon, because my brother only plays games on Playstation.

copper canopy
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||Rama|| is still my favorite, and what I used to complete my ||Heat 32|| run

outer dew
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||Rama|| is definitely my favorite bow aspect and one of my favorite aspects in general

outer dew
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Especially with twin shot