#h1-discussion

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signal aspen
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i was playing hades and artemis forgot to give me a third boon option

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has that ever happened to anyone?

fleet narwhal
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just straight up 2?

signal aspen
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yeah

fleet narwhal
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do you have like a screenshot

signal aspen
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yes

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i cant post it here in this chat

fleet narwhal
buoyant sequoia
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đŸ˜©

fleet narwhal
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might be a bug

signal aspen
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ok

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posted it

fleet narwhal
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whoah it just like straight up isnt there

signal aspen
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yeah

buoyant sequoia
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oh wow

fleet narwhal
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uh dunno whats going on there

buoyant sequoia
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maybe that's normal? or are there always 3 options

signal aspen
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I just rerolled once

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is that the problem?

fleet narwhal
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theres always 3 options even if you reroll

signal aspen
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hmm

wet vessel
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She got fed up with you not being content with her previous offers

signal aspen
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lmao

buoyant sequoia
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lol

hasty lantern
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Hey, a dialogue question

||does anyone have any screenshots regarding zagreus talking to than about hypnos? Apparently I missed that part when trying to unlock Hyp's heart. It never appeared to me and I'd like to know how it went :(||

fleet narwhal
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ive only had one convo with him about it so far, about how hes being too harsh on hypnos

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though, i havent finished the questline

brisk trail
arctic nest
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I just joined to say that I absolutely love the game. I didn't buy it at first, borrowed my friends account but after a while I just had to buy it myself to show support, this is truly a 10/10 game. Only thing that could possibly be missing would be the inclusion of mods. Apparently modding this game is easy, so it would be a treat to see official support for it.

desert meadow
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^^^

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Even just steam workshop at least

unborn remnant
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The game only dropped a few months ago

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give it a couple months

desert meadow
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Yeah

unborn remnant
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given that the staff seems very into speedrunning/community stuff i'm sure itll have an official place

slim ravine
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if you miss a daedalus hammer early in your run are you still guarenteed to get 2?

signal aspen
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||probably not in the temple of styx||

copper canopy
signal aspen
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||or you can take a anvil||

copper canopy
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However it’s still all chance.

desert meadow
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Pretty sure you will get 2 for sure, but don't quote me on that

hearty bramble
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no thoughts. only thanatos

scarlet robin
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did we lost our games if we uninstall hades ?

hearty bramble
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steam cloud saves ur game info :)

scarlet robin
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nice thx

lone kernel
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My brother called his two flavor e cigarette a duo boon 😂

main arch
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Anyone here like the game hades?

signal aspen
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hades is the topic of this chat

main arch
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It was just a joke

fresh crest
signal aspen
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lmao

main arch
fleet narwhal
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you will be offered 2 hammers guaranteed but dont have to take them

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you can miss them if under the enshrouded curse from chaos

main arch
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I always take hammer/ hermes

plucky phoenix
meager steppe
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Basically always hammer time. HermĂšs is sometimes skippable for me.

plucky phoenix
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i like having an extra dash from hermes

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but besides that I don't really like hermes' stuff

meager steppe
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People forget that an attack speed bonus is essentially a damage bonus.

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And I really have fun with curse based builds.

desert meadow
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I'd say always go for hammers and Hermes if you can, unless the other options have a god with a boon you really need for your build.

meager steppe
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That being said, and extra dash or two from the TheBull on is amazing useful.

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More so in the coliseum than the surface.

hearty bramble
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i like hermes boons 👀

main arch
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I had a 81% dodge build today

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I am speed

dark ocean
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Get hypersprint + rush delivery and you basically get big% bonus damage.

hearty bramble
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but isnt it like less than a second?

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is that still useful? :o

dark ocean
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Yeah but think of how much you dash attack

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Especially in melee builds

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With fists you have it on almost always

hearty bramble
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hmm good point

loud lintel
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does ||rama|| special work with zeus special boon?

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i.e. does every arrow proc a bolt

fleet narwhal
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yes!

loud lintel
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cant seem to land on a build for ||rama||

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so far ive been going zeus special & aphro attack

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not sure what duos/legendaries to go for

scarlet gull
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where would i ask about like endgame content? just here

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like for completely hypothetical example a specific pact that you may or may not have to purchase from the contractor

loud lintel
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||EM4?||

scarlet gull
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||yeah, basically just asking about tips and stuff||

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||also em3 because minotaur spin is stupid||

upper mesa
digital python
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was in the thesus + asterious fight before I realized I was doing so much damage that i took out nearly a third of asterius' health w/ a single sequence ( i was using the aspect of poseidon so three casts + special) like ??? turns out the game is easy if u actually pay atteniton to what boons ur choosing rather than just hcoosing whichever god is ur fav atm lmao

scarlet gull
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which gods don't have any like extra call related boons?

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by call related boon i mean stuff like rip current

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billowing

loud lintel
scarlet gull
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it's fine

loud lintel
scarlet gull
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^

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there's a lot of builds that can just dish out some big number instantly

loud lintel
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some gods have certain skills that affect calls but not directly

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like ares's blade rift upgrades

scarlet gull
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yeah hermes also builds god gage

loud lintel
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they dont necessarily upgrade his call

scarlet gull
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stuff that directly affects call

loud lintel
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but his call is blade rift sooo

scarlet gull
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ik artemis has one

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which like builds faster with crits

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and athena, proud bearing

loud lintel
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yeah thats it i think

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just checked Dio, Ares, Demeter, & Aphro boons and they didnt have anything directly call related

hearty bramble
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what if hermes had a call

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and he just came to cheer you on

craggy barn
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i could see hermes actually personally coming to just run around and make your fores dizzy, causing them to be stunned

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iirc he literally brings souls to the underworld

hearty bramble
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:O thats so creative...

narrow hemlock
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the image you're trying to link can't be hotlinked

hearty bramble
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oh whoops

narrow hemlock
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that still 403's on my end so idk if that's me or the site thonk I'm just checking in on my phone

loud lintel
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Quick question about privileged status

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If the hit applies the second status curse, does it benefit from the +40% damage?

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or only subsequent hits

warped iron
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the first link works just fine for me

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

meager steppe
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Good luck with that Proto. My guess is that the answer it depends and you’ll need to look at the code and find the order of operations as to when PS is applied.

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There is a real possibility that you could have the curse application be placed after the hit box trigger. This is also further complicated by delayed effects like doom.

warped iron
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just a hunch, but since eris buff applies to the same hit, I'd guess yes, but

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take that with a grain of salt

meager steppe
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It’s as logical a conclusion as any other.

loud lintel
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hmm might test it then

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shame we cant equip boons and such in the courtyard to test these things

warped iron
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🙂

upper mesa
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Oh I absolutely need to get that mod

exotic idol
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why is there no vc in this server :c

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I would have liked to just hang out with ppl playing hades

upper mesa
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Too difficult to moderate

exotic idol
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but im sure they have deleted it for reasons

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yeah.... :c

loud lintel
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Modding isnt my thing unfortunately :/

upper mesa
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VC is fun but having voice chat in public servers where things can't be tracked well...

narrow hemlock
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vc would have to follow the same community guidelines in #readme-first and to be frank that is impossible to moderate in that kind of setting with as many people are on the server

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there are hades-centric fan servers that get posted in #self-promotion, I'm sure at least one somewhere has a vc

warped iron
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@loud lintel my educated guess based on the fact that eris buff is applied before the damage (meaning that effects from weapons are applied before damage) is that yes, PS applies to the hit that inflicts the second status

loud lintel
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hmm that makes sense i guess

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does hidden rail aspect have a higher Rate of Fire than other rail aspects?

upper mesa
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Definitely

carmine ravine
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altho u missing out on certain hammer upgrades etc

hearty bramble
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|| when u get to hades with boons hes like "pah u only got here bc u had help!" and then when u get there without boons hes like "pah i bet u just purged them for coin!! too proud to accept help huh??" like he always has smth to say||

ivory geode
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some people are just like that

meager steppe
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It do be like dat

digital python
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||wait, im confused- how do you get more heat? i've escaped the underworld three times now but i stil have only one? i thought u got more ehat every time u escaped||

steep burrow
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||Heat is based on how many conditions of the Pact of Punishment you have active||

digital python
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||OHH||

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nvm im stupid

meager steppe
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0 to 1 functions oddly. You don’t have to beat 0 to get 1 but you have to subsequently move up from there (sort of).

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So beat 1 to run 2 and beat 2 to run 3.

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Etc.

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I need an escape with a sword still.

digital python
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im stupid i didn't realize u technically dont need to use all the heat things to fill the heat gauge

meager steppe
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Thinking aspect of Poseidon is the one that’ll work for me.

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Oh. Yeah. Baby steps my dude.

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There are a few good guides in regards to which ones have the least long term impact.

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I’m on three or four and I run ||Timer and EM 1||. I’ll add ||jury summons|| next. The idea is that once you are used to them, they aren’t a big deal.

jagged trellis
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Can you have more then 100% bonus damage?

loud lintel
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||jury summons at higher levels can be pretty bad depending on the level of benefits package or tight deadline that you're running||

loud lintel
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there are many sources of bonus damage

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Privileged Status, Olympian Boons, Chaos boons, keepsakes, Charon wells, etc.

hearty bramble
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high confidence plus shattered shackle is like 125% right off the bat

jagged trellis
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Also is there a quest for every person you can give nectar to?

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I want to do Aphrodite’s but she seems to show up the least often of them all

hearty bramble
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hers takes a while to get the heart unlock

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i think there is some quest or requirement for every person you can give nectar to yeah

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except bouldy

topaz yew
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honest to god

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when are we getting voice chat

loud lintel
upper mesa
topaz yew
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true

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any tips on how to play ||The Lyre?||

upper mesa
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||Practice once every time you come back to the house||

topaz yew
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ty

hearty bramble
topaz yew
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does that count as a spoiler?

hearty bramble
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i will tag it just in case!!

topaz yew
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||I didnt know you can fish in the chaos realm||

lyric wharf
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Anyone knows why we can't remove the fireplace in the lounge ?

lyric wharf
hearty bramble
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yup! || its usually a really small advantage, keep an eye out for it next time u give him nectar :) ||

fleet narwhal
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||2 percent ambiguity bonus đŸ˜©||

lyric wharf
fleet narwhal
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thats the joke, its ambiguous so it does nothing

upper mesa
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It could do something, though

summer cloud
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what is the last area in hades?

topaz yew
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remember Bouldy is best character

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in respective opinions Is Urge to kill one of the best Boons?

hearty bramble
topaz yew
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that isnt a spoiler

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You can tell them the area you cant tell them about usually about anything that isnt obtainable until after the boss fight itself

hearty bramble
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ah ok!

toxic bridge
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any good first keepsake suggestion?

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for guan yu

ivory geode
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old spiked collar

toxic bridge
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is it permarnently ? i never use it

ivory geode
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it gives you more max health but it is Not Immune To Guan Yu so it won't give you as much as it says on the tin

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still helps though

upper mesa
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It’s temporary, but can be helpful for surviving Tartarus until you pick up more max health

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Artemis is nice for the special attack too

toxic bridge
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Thanks

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frick

dark ocean
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Aphrodite good too

topaz yew
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Curse of Nausea is op

lyric wharf
upper mesa
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||He gives a random boon at typically a 2% bonus, it’s typically to something like damage or damage reduction but can also just be the ambiguity bonus||

lyric wharf
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I see that's nice, at least something to use excess nectars on.

loud lintel
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||I've gotten cast damage and move speed from bouldy as well, both at 6%||

topaz yew
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Love how after you make ||Amends with hades everytime you die you get a peace sign||

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||God nyx makes me wanna go to Hel||

drifting crest
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Hel is a Norse goddess tho

topaz yew
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OOF

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wait

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my bad

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anyways

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How do obtain hidden shield

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and hidden rail

fleet narwhal
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hidden shield: ||waking aspect talk to chaos||
hidden rail: ||waking aspect talk to zeus||

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theres a bunch of other requirements though

topaz yew
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oh okay ty

fleet narwhal
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ye

topaz yew
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@lyric wharf ||when you die after like Hades lets you go see persephone you give a peace sign everytime you die fighting him||

lyric wharf
topaz yew
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yeah

autumn heath
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i just bought hades and never played this genre or type of game before. am i gunna get wrekt

topaz yew
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Yeah

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quite a bit

upper mesa
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God mode is heavily recommended imo, it makes the game far more approachable

outer dew
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oh yeah

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It took me like 30 attempts

green maple
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Still its okay to play the game through the normal mode, its still doable once you reach a certain amount of mirror upgrades

outer dew
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to beat the game in normal

upper mesa
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I think the advantage of god mode is that it’s not too hard to turn off once you’re more comfortable, since all it does is reduce damage taken

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It doesn’t change any behaviors, it basically just gives you more health to work with

sleek galleon
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@unreal shard so tell me, whats your main weapon?

unreal shard
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i like the shield

swift mist
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just completed a run in 19 minutes, no real build, is that good?

unreal shard
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Aegis

swift mist
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wasnt rly trying to go fast either

unreal shard
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8 hours and i just finished the hydra

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it's like i just spam that blade rift

summer cloud
hearty bramble
swift mist
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lmao

hearty bramble
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i dont usually try to speedrun or anything tho bc i dont wanna Sweat

swift mist
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i wasnt rly trying either

hearty bramble
swift mist
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can you help me with the hidden aspect? it didnt unlock and i have 5/6 blood invested

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and fought the minotour

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which is what the internet told me i needed to do lol

hearty bramble
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for the fists?

swift mist
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yeah

hearty bramble
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ahh i guess just keep talking to the minotaur? for me it occurred in a solo fight with him (miniboss room)

upper mesa
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It’s a random voice line in that fight, I got it second try with everything met

swift mist
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are those all the requirements or are there more?

upper mesa
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Just have to encounter him solo a few times

swift mist
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alrighty

tepid pulsar
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Hi

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I want to really really really Congratulate Supergiant Games

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and I can't wait to double dip on the PS4 ver IF we ever get one

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And the Switch Port Is amazing, not a single frame drop or crash

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I might get Transistor and Pyre a 2nd chance

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-In the name of hades, I am off..

upper mesa
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A friend of mine had to give Transistor a chance to really enjoy it and in the end he really liked it

rich acorn
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||What's the max you can level up a weapons aspect?||

brazen lagoon
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5

rich acorn
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Thx

unborn remnant
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How are the other sgg games?

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How do they play?

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like genres and such

sleek galleon
unborn remnant
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wrong channel i know

sleek galleon
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bastion's the closest, classic action rpg with cool narrative

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then pyre (relations and dialogues), but waaay different

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then transistor (my fav), Turn based RPG

outer dew
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For any new players trying to get their first clear I highly suggest using aspect of eris

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It works really well with zeus lighting

topaz yew
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or sea storm

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Zeus and Poseidon

hasty lantern
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crashes in UGH I JUST GOT MY HYPNOS BOND

IVE NEVER BEEN SO HAPPY AAAA cries

HypnosSticker HypnosSticker HypnosSticker

leaden shore
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Congrats lol

hasty lantern
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Tysm CrowBongo

upper mesa
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That one takes so long

leaden shore
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The one thing I consistently lack in my save files is nectar

hasty lantern
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That one takes so long
I know! That's why I am so happy I finally got it <3 best boyo

leaden shore
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Hypnos is a pretty good boyo

hasty lantern
hearty bramble
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best friends zagluv

leaden shore
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I am nearing the 500 hour threshold

unborn remnant
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please dont roast me for this, but what does everybody like about hypnos so much?

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I mean he's okay

leaden shore
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I guess because he's a troll, kinda?

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His whole vibe clashes with his voice imo but ive grown to like it

hasty lantern
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I don't know 😭😭 I just absolutely love his personality ahah

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Though my favorite character design wise is Charon!! CharonSticker CharonSticker

leaden shore
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Charon tries his best

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Poor guy

hasty lantern
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He's a whole mood

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And I just checked~ I have 91 hours on hades ahah, I thought I had more!

leaden shore
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Fair

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I almost have more hours in Hades than I do in Smash which is an accomplishment

austere mesa
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Quick question: How many gods can be in the "god pool" for boons, and can I remove one if I purge all boons from that god?

unborn remnant
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4?

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I believe

brisk trail
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I'm a simp for hypnos actually

hasty lantern
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Hypnos simps gather up

tepid plover
dull niche
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4 is the natural limit for a god pool yes

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you can get it to be larger with keepsakes and such

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and if you purge all boons from a god they will remain in your pool

plucky phoenix
dull niche
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the god pool will never shrink

maiden belfry
upper mesa
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I don't think you can make the pool larger than four, I believe a keepsake just adds that god once - may easily be wrong though

austere mesa
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Thanks, everyone

hoary patio
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wait ur supposed to spawn back at tartarus after beating meg wtfff

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so i have to do all that again

meager steppe
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The game is not linear. Trust the system.

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It’s good.

hoary patio
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okok got it

clever kiln
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question: does the ares boon that gives you bonus damage after death defiance stack with itself if you use DD multiple times in a chamber?

lyric wharf
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I'm gonna lvl another weapon, how's Hestia at max lvl ?

brazen lagoon
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pretty good

lyric wharf
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Nice, my favorite railgun aspect.

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About fists I'm not sure, I like Talos but the special attract doesn't work on bosses.

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The buff works however I guess ?

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But I might lvl Demeter aspect instead.

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For shield I'll lvl Zeus for sure.

gritty roost
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Demeter best fist

lyric wharf
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I'm quite satisfied with maxed Hestia railgun, I basically only do charged shot.

meager steppe
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I kind of love the talos aspect.

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It was my first clear using plume. Absolutely wrecked heat two (current max) with dio strike, trippy shot, and all the Zeus.

lyric wharf
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Lambent plume you mean ?

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Battle Rage is amazing with Hestia railgun.

sudden patrol
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I just found my new favorite daedalus buff

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If you’re using the bow aspect where the special targets enemies and you get the “Your special fires +4” arrows buff from the hammer choose it

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Basically double damage

warped forge
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We did it boys

magic flower
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Congratulations @warped forge

warped forge
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thank you so much

fleet narwhal
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i am just not feeling achilles spear

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heard its really good though

scarlet gull
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are you able to have both cluster bomb and triple bomb at the same time?

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because if so....

gritty roost
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no

scarlet gull
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damn

gritty roost
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triple/cluster/hazard cant be combined

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you can combine it with rocket though...

scarlet gull
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oh yeah ik

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i've done rocket triple and cluster rocket

gritty roost
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glorious

wet vessel
gritty roost
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you get bonus damage after you rush right?

wet vessel
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yep

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for 4 attacks

hearty bramble
warped forge
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ty ty. this game means so much to me. its gotten me through hell

ivory geode
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Ironic

trail plover
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Playing the game again. It has been a few days. Going to try heat 32 just for the laughs. My best heat level is 4.

warped forge
lyric wharf
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Can we change badges ?

warped forge
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atleast to get used to forced overtime. the learning curve for that is h a r d

lyric wharf
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I tried 32 heat to see how it is and that was so crazy, but it sure makes the game really fun with all this challenge, gives you a reason to become even better.

trail plover
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Yeah I really just want to try it for fun. I have been watching some streams lately and it just seems wild. I want to experience it first hand, hahaha.

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Then I will return to my safe heat level 4 because I think anything much higher than that for a long period of time will make me hate the game.

silver totem
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YAYAYAY i finally beat the third boss

trail plover
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Congrats!

fleet narwhal
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congrats shadeohboy

silver totem
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but then i got my ass handed to me in the temple of styx

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lol

trail plover
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(I am already making myself setting up the heat levels for this)

silver totem
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the blades on the ground from ares kick ass

trail plover
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Well, I died to Meg.

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But it was not as bad as I thought it would be.

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I think I would have done better if I didn't think it was going to be so harsh. Hahaha.

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Anyway, back to heat 4!

hearty bramble
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when i first got the pact i set it to max heat just for fun

distant raven
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hi there
can someone explain the dependence of nicknames at the victory screen?

meager steppe
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As far as I’m aware there is a system but it’s got so many twists and turns that most folks can’t make heads or tails of it.

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Kind of cool that the game has been in testing and in folks hands for so long and it hasn’t just been torn down to the code and min maxed all the hell.

distant raven
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so, there is no database of that thing?

meager steppe
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There might be. The wiki seems pretty well cared for.

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But I’ve watched a fair amount of YouTube videos of builds and tips and guides and streamers have said that you can get these specific ones but have been surprised several times.

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Personally, I think the game does such a great job of rewarding play regardless of skill that I’m not even worried about titles.

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But everyone should play the way that makes it fun for them.

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@deep parrot tries very hard not to win. I just got a new pretty flower and I can’t wait to give it a whirl.

deep parrot
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I try very hard to get prophecies

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I will let myself win but I would rather get prophecies fast than win

meager steppe
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By quitting runs...

deep parrot
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I don't quit runs

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beating later bosses means more dark

meager steppe
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Oh? My apologies

deep parrot
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I also try to get a lot of dark

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so I def complete runs

meager steppe
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Sooooooooo much darkness.

deep parrot
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I actually don't even know how much dark boss 3 gives if you beat them again, cuz I only beat them twice, once per two weapons

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but boss 2 gives 120 dark

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so I bet 3 gives like 180 or 240 or more

meager steppe
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Down to sword hidden aspect remaining to reveal. No need to tell me where to go. Will be a while before I go for it anyway.

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180 sounds right.

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Well nighty night

deep parrot
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180 is each boss giving +60 more than last
240 is starting at 60 and doubling each time
more is something else

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gn

distant raven
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the wiki said that 3d boss gives 120 darkness at the basic

delicate kindle
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What did hades teach us about time management via dusa?

willow token
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Anyone got a hint for how to progress on "The Gift of S||ong||" prophecy?

sharp fossil
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okay so like

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lemme put it this way

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let’s say you wanted to ||learn the lyre|| irl, what would you have to do?

willow token
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I talk to the expert at every opportunity, but he hasn't said anything new about it in a while. I practice it once or twice between each run, but nothing seems to have changed in a while. Should I just keep on like that, or am I missing something?

#

just hard to tell whether I'm making hidden progress or if I'm missing some piece of the puzzle

craggy barn
#

time and practice

prisma wind
#

It requires ||a lot of playing||

craggy barn
#

there's not much to it

sharp fossil
#

yeah you’re on the right track

willow token
#

Alright, thanks

azure violet
#

what happens if u enter a chaos gate while ur at like 20 hp or less

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do u die

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(if u dont have death defiance)

runic parrot
#

you cant

desert meadow
#

It won’t let you enter

runic parrot
#

it doesnt let you

azure violet
#

oh ok

#

wait i was watching i video where some guy had 29 health and one chaos boon option was "you have -29 life total" would he have died if he picked it?

prisma wind
#

No, it reduces you to 1

runic parrot
#

lol it would be funny if chaos just stabs you there and your run ends though

prisma wind
#

Chaos will never kill you directly, even from taking damage by using the cursed ability

#

They're kind like that

silver totem
#

First time in the temple of styx i am looking for the room with the fountain?

weak hearth
#

hi everyone, i had a question about upgrading weapons. as far as i know, you can upgrade weapons with titans blood but i dont have the option to do so

#

like where would i go to upgrade my weapon

brazen lagoon
weak hearth
#

no sir, i didnt know that was a requirement

#

sorry about that

brazen lagoon
#

its fine

silver totem
#

I might have found room with fountain but had no idea what my objective was and kept going

weak hearth
silver totem
#

Was still in shock for actually beating minotaur and thebes

hearty bramble
#

did you get the Sack? the goal is to get that for cerberus :)

brazen lagoon
#

when you come back you'll have a convo with skelly

weak hearth
#

and then i would go to the courtyard and have the options right?

#

oh okay

#

tysm ❀

brazen lagoon
#

wlc

silver totem
#

Or a Urn

hearty bramble
#

the fountain room has no enemies, a big fountain with murky water, the chamber reward, and a Sack

silver totem
#

Ok once i get that im in the clear! I guess for next time lol

hearty bramble
#

u got this!!

silver totem
#

I got lucky and got the blades from ares and those did so much damage

long totem
#

Does the lambent plume not count the mini-rooms in the temple of styx ?

runic parrot
#

nope

#

it only counts the final rooms

long totem
#

Oof

#

Wish I had knonw that sooner

#

Eh its a 0 heat run, I should be okay

#

But woulda perfered having the acorn

supple basalt
#

using aspect a charon, first got relentless volley, now concetrated voley, was a good day to be charon bow-

runic parrot
#

aspect of charon 👀

#

imagine a charon aspect spear where it turns into a bloody massive scythe

supple basalt
#

, ngl, would be a better legendary aspect in my opinion

#

also well. 3 epic athena options at once, welp, okay then game,

runic parrot
tropic arrow
#

Why are the bosses designed to have HP cap at certain lines

runic parrot
#

that's fun

hearty bramble
tropic arrow
#

Why can't just let the players kill the bosses nearly instantly if they have high enough damage

hearty bramble
tropic arrow
#

Can someone give an explanation for the intention behind this design decision?

runic parrot
hearty bramble
#

idk myself, I just guessed it's so you can't instakill bosses /to reduce the power of summons or other big damage stuff

#

kinda inconvenient but forces me to actually fight the bosses at least a little bit which I don't mind that much

#

certain bosses do have interesting stages

tropic arrow
#

I just want to see cooler combos and higher damage

craggy barn
#

it's like in gungeon where there's a dps cap for bosses

brazen lagoon
#

i mean you can basically instakill them if you have mods and stuff

craggy barn
#

legendary ares boon that lets you bypass invulnerability when 😳 👉 👈

hollow hawk
#

@tropic arrow there's also the reason that the invulnerability in bosses shows that they're switching to a different moveset/adding new moves to their arsenal

tropic arrow
runic parrot
#

does this mean you can theoretically kill him if you have a high enough dps on those

weak hearth
#

i just picked up merciful end for the first time

craggy barn
#

now that you mention it

weak hearth
#

exactly how does it work? im trying my hardest to test but pretty hard to not get hit lol

craggy barn
#

i could try putting as many dot status effects on him as possible

weak hearth
#

i have it

#

and im using the bow atm

runic parrot
#

your doom immediately activates on the attacking enemy when you deflect their attacks

#

pretty straightforward

weak hearth
#

does the deflect have to hit?

runic parrot
#

i don't know actually

#

i've ever only gotten it once

weak hearth
#

i see

#

ill lyk in a second lol

craggy barn
#

it works best with melee weapons generally

#

you can just apply doom and immediately dash through them

weak hearth
#

so lets say my primary attack inflicts doom

#

hitting them once would instantly do the dmg right?

craggy barn
#

apply doom > hit them with something that can deflect (special, cast, dash, etc)

weak hearth
#

makes sense

#

ty

runic parrot
#

personally i like the ares aphro duo better

#

that +sweet surrender is great

weak hearth
#

theres so much to this game

#

a little overwhelming

hearty bramble
#

have u guys tried pomegranate irl

#

beautiful fruit

plucky phoenix
#

we have pomegranate seeds in the fridge but they scare me

hearty bramble
#

they are lovely i recommend trying them!!

maiden belfry
#

dont do it youll be stuck int he underworld for most fo the year

hearty bramble
#

sign me up 😳 😳 😳

plucky phoenix
#

at least it'll be warm

hollow hawk
craggy barn
#

imo pomegranates taste weird

#

then again last i tried those i was like 11 so i'd be down to give them another chance

hollow hawk
#

Love poms

craggy barn
#

if i eat an entire pom i better get 125 gold coins out of thin air

brazen lagoon
#

he still shows up in the boss fight tho

hearty bramble
hearty bramble
#

wow that's crazy i didn't know it was possible!

brazen lagoon
#

probably isnt if you're playing normally

#

i was using mods

#

actually if you get him to low enough health he starts taking 1 damage

#

only reason i could kill him was because of winter harvest

craggy barn
#

asterius uses a dd

runic agate
#

Also

#

E

runic parrot
#

the spoiler tag is double vertical bars ||like so||, also i like to use zeus or poseidon attack on that

wind token
#

Is there anything more fun than critting with ||Arthur|| lol?

desert mulch
#

Quick question, is there any way to get the script for hades, or better yet any let’s plays that don’t show gameplay, just character interaction? My sister is in a video game writing class and I recommended she analyze hades for an assignment since it has such an amazing story, but she is not a gamer and would not have the ability or time to just play it.

balmy valley
#

thanks electronic! I like zeus too, but anything else in especial to use on dash for example?

willow token
#

If you don't like the weapon, you could just get poseidon dash and kill everything with just that

coarse plover
#

The only dlc I want is the ability to befriend asterius

wind token
#

Which one is Asterius?

quartz moss
#

The Minotaur

wind token
#

Oh yeah. He's cool. Honestly, I was expecting Theseus to turn into Heracles for the Pact.

#

Because Zagreus mentions it early in the game, so I was totally expecting it to be him, but instead we got ||Theseus in a cart.||

craggy barn
#

at least you don't have to beat up a fellow hydra-slayer

wind token
#

True. Honestly, the best moment was when Zag started calling the Hydra "Lernie," and even the victory screen has "Lernie Defeated!"

#

This game is so good

hearty bramble
hearty bramble
#

some of the visuals look a little outdated though

desert mulch
#

Thank you so much, I’ll take a look at it!

loud canopy
#

I never have enough nectar for all the people I want to give it to

runic parrot
#

never in my life have i ever thought i would be able to dash ||behind the wretched broker's funky desk||

hearty bramble
#

indeed

#

zag does a lil "pardon me!" its cute

#

i feel very silly for this but i only now looked up the story of orpheus/eurydice and the lyrics of orpheus's lament suddenly make sense to me 🙃

topaz yew
#

hidden fists is a meh

hearty bramble
#

agreed

#

the only hidden aspect i like is the sword

#

im too lazy to learn how to use the others i guess

topaz yew
#

i hear everyone say the sword at this point

#

my favorite is the ||Aspect of Demeter for my twin fist cause it does the most damage||

hearty bramble
#

i havent really tried that one too much bc i have too much fun with magnetic cutter lol!! what does it do again?

topaz yew
#

It pretty much stacks your special

#

so instead of one max q charge

#

you get 5 ina row

runic parrot
#

i like the hidden aspects, i think they're neat

#

completely different playstyles but fun to play around

topaz yew
#

true the one im using right now is pretty much a better doom

loud lintel
#

Hidden fists is really strong

topaz yew
#

it is

#

But my problem is that

#

I dont usually use the dash q

#

so its kinda off setting to me

loud lintel
#

It takes some getting used to

#

But the damage output is insane

#

I got a better time with hidden fists than i did with hidden sword actually

topaz yew
#

my best time with fist is 20 min

drowsy arch
#

Question ||do i romance thana||?

topaz yew
#

YEah

#

but it takes quite a bit of play through

drowsy arch
#

i have the option right now

topaz yew
#

im on my like 70th run

drowsy arch
#

do i press yes or no.

topaz yew
#

DO IT

#

YES

drowsy arch
#

Bet.

topaz yew
#

this is the most death defiaince ive ever used ina single run like holy hell

drowsy arch
#

||what are you waiting for, im here right now||

#

simmer down bud.

topaz yew
#

using the hidden fist ive already sued 4 death defiance

nimble panther
#

Nothing makes you appreciate Logan Cunningham's effort sounds than when you run fists with support fire and forced overtime. Constant, grumbling, satisfying grunts

topaz yew
#

lmfao

#

Agreed

loud lintel
#

ruthless reflex with hidden fists is also great

spice hearth
#

I can never seem to get ruthless to proc consistently

#

i never manage to dodge in the sweet spot

loud lintel
#

i just get it to proc by iframing any projectile or attack

low trail
#

Tbh i always use ruthless

loud lintel
#

not sure if the window is bigger than that though

#

i always use ruthless on hidden fists

#

sometimes on hidden sword

low trail
#

The purple option for it is extra dash right?

#

I cant remember

loud lintel
#

yeah purple for extra dash

#

green for damage buff

low trail
#

Ohh

loud lintel
#

greater reflex=extra dash
ruthless reflex=damage buff

topaz yew
#

58 health... and I only have ||Hades to half health with EM 3 Help me||

#

wfegbfgtwedgfrqwesdgnfh gfr2qewgtfjyt4wgr

rapid forum
#

always remember, keep hitting the enemy till their HP hits 0 and don't get hit so your HP won't hit 0

topaz yew
#

ah true

plucky phoenix
#

just don't get hit hypnos

dusk yew
#

i completed my 10th run of this game the other day

#

i love everything about this game

maiden belfry
dusk yew
#

Dusa rules but tbh I like Meg

#

But I really like Tisiphone

#

honestly there is no character in this game I dislike, the writing is so good

drifting crest
#

Theseus was a bit annoying in the beginning but now he seems kinda funny.

dusk yew
#

Theseus is the closest to unlikeable...but he keeps losing so...

#

He's so one note and the Minotaur is wayyyyyy better than him

swift mist
#

the minotaur is my fav character

dusk yew
#

i wouldn't go that far but Asterius is tiers above Theseus

craggy barn
#

which aspect should i max out? i've already maxed out a couple so i'm just gonna go with what other people say for this one

runic parrot
#

whichever you like the most

#

i maxed out the love of my life, poseidon sword, first

dusk yew
#

gross

#

the sword?

trail pendant
#

I always use only one aspect

brazen lagoon
#

hera, chiron, any of the bow aspects tbh

trail pendant
#

Worst weapon in the game is ||Adamant Rail|| imo

brazen lagoon
#

you'd probably want nemesis too

runic parrot
#

i like poseidon, eris, chiron, and possibly hades

dusk yew
#

that's a weird way to spell the short sword

vapid narwhal
#

that's a weird way to spell Aspect of Hades spear

brazen lagoon
#

spear is achilles for me

loud lintel
#

Hidden Sword is zagluv

dusk yew
#

all sword aspects are shadedisgruntled

runic parrot
brazen lagoon
#

hades spear is pretty decent

loud lintel
#

actually all sword aspects are pretty good imo

vapid narwhal
#

imagine having to stand still

loud lintel
#

each has a different playstyle as well

vapid narwhal
#

(I know dash cancel is a thing)

loud lintel
#

which is very nice

brazen lagoon
#

i think zag aspect sword is kinda bottom tier compared to all the other apsects but its still pretty ok

dusk yew
#

tbh I love this game because of how viable all the weapons are and how easily it adapts to playstyles

vapid narwhal
#

zag sword is decent

#

well all zag aspect only cost 5 blood for a reason

dusk yew
#

i like the health gain aspect

vapid narwhal
#

but all zag aspect are decent enough for pretty much anything in the game, bar super doper endgame

loud lintel
#

zag aspect with cursed slash, hermes swift strike boon, & flurry slash

brazen lagoon
#

best zag aspect is zag bow imo

dusk yew
#

i just don't really like the daedalus hammer upgrades for sword

#

i just don't like sword

runic parrot
#

thats me but with shield

dusk yew
#

shield is the best

brazen lagoon
#

yeah shield is kinda eh for me

dusk yew
#

hands down

brazen lagoon
#

i only like zeus aspect

dusk yew
#

all aspects are amazing

runic parrot
#

i never got used to zeus

#

too slow for me

loud lintel
#

i loved spear at the start

runic parrot
#

and the others are eh

loud lintel
#

but not as much anymore

runic parrot
#

i never utilise the special

brazen lagoon
#

chaos aspect is probably my least favourite aspect

loud lintel
#

none of the spear aspects appeal to me tbh

dusk yew
#

explosive spear throw is so good

runic parrot
#

hidden spear is awesome

loud lintel
#

these days i mostly use sword/fists/bow

runic parrot
#

and hades is good too for the speen

#

but mostly i use sword or bow

brazen lagoon
#

i use whatever weapon has dark thirst tbh

dusk yew
#

i love the fists i'm just so bad with them. i just feel i never get good dps

brazen lagoon
#

but for preference i mostly use rail/fists

swift mist
#

fists are my fav

loud lintel
#

you want zeus attack on fists

loud lintel
#

imo

#

ive gotten my default mirror build maxed so i just use whatever i feel like using at the time

runic parrot
#

yo-yo fists is cool

brazen lagoon
#

zeus attack is great on fists/rail

dusk yew
#

i gravitate toward zeus on fists but i just haven't mastered that build

#

unlike triple rocket adamant rail builds

vapid narwhal
#

zeus is good on fast attacking weapons

loud lintel
#

^

brazen lagoon
#

its pretty ok on spear too

loud lintel
#

zeus attack on hidden rail was hilarious

dusk yew
#

i guess i just need to dodge more with fists or build more towards dodgine

brazen lagoon
#

pos attack + sea storm on hidden rail was something

dusk yew
#

i just feel like i never get the dps i want

#

whereas with the bow i can one shot most things

loud lintel
brazen lagoon
#

its called a super soaker build i think

runic parrot
#

yep and it's awesome

brazen lagoon
#

you dont want to take eternal chamber tho

loud lintel
#

hera bow with aphro cast one shots pretty much everything until elysium

brazen lagoon
#

i didnt really do a lot of damage

dusk yew
#

you talking about loading poseidon's cast into the adamant rail?

#

i think with fists my fav combo was ares + aphrodite

#

weak enemies always take doom dmg

vapid narwhal
#

rail doesnt have a cast aspect

#

you are talking about aspect of hera or hidden shield

dusk yew
#

ok sorry it was the shield

#

shield bash+posiedon wave

craggy barn
main zealot
#

Any news about the next sale? Can't wait for it tbh

vapid narwhal
#

chinese new year sale early Feb

south tangle
main zealot
spare tiger
#

I wonder if they actually used a lyre for some of the songs in the game?

brazen lagoon
#

most likely

craggy barn
#

achilles run and i got crystal clarity + mirage shot in asphodel

#

if i get glacial glare it's gg

#

i got the plume, rerolled twice with hermes and got no bad news

#

#losing

autumn heath
#

wat this game iss so good

slim ravine
#

beating the final boss without dashes is easy with shield

#

had that one daedalus boon that decreased the charge time

hearty bramble
# spare tiger I wonder if they actually used a lyre for some of the songs in the game?

in this noclip documentary darren korb actually shows some behind the scenes of the game's music!! its not a lyre but I think it's a stringed instrument called a "baglama" https://youtu.be/oQPk9J7spw0

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lyric wharf
#

I guessed it wasn't a lyre because I could hear the sound of fingers moving on the lower strings so I thought that was a classical/acoustic guitar.

grand shale
#

hades dlc content when?

wet orchid
#

if there's DLC, Im voting for ||Demeter moving on and returning the seasons back to normal/spring version of Demeter||

hearty bramble
#

i love that even though there's already so much, it feels like there is still room for more in the game

rich acorn
#

What's the duo boon that sometimes randomly activates revenge effects?

runic parrot
#

zeus and ares

rich acorn
#

Thx

weak hearth
#

wanted to ask

#

what is generally considered the top tier weapons

#

regardless of boons, just on their own

outer dew
#

Eris

runic agate
#

Eris

outer dew
#

also mabye nemesis

#

Although it works even better with arty on there

runic agate
#

No

sharp fossil
#

nem isn’t top tier

runic agate
#

Nemisis is defo not on the top at all

#

Like not even close

#

At all

outer dew
#

Its really good for speed running

sharp fossil
outer dew
#

Yes it is inconsistent

sharp fossil
#

a lot of stuff needs to fall into place to get really good nem speeds

outer dew
#

My favorite sword aspect tho

runic agate
#

Doesn't mean it's good with no boons though

outer dew
#

Rama is good without boons

runic agate
#

They said with no boons

sharp fossil
#

they said regardless of boons

#

if that means literally no boons (as opposed to only good with specific boons) then the answer is 1000% hestia

#

hestia is supreme overlord when it comes to boonless runs

outer dew
#

With shattered shackle I could see how that works

sharp fossil
#

rama’s very good as well tho you’re right

outer dew
#

Rama my favorite bow aspect. Feels so satisfing

#

*satisfying

runic agate
#

I thought that was eris

outer dew
#

Eris is decent but for amazing runs you need zeus

sharp fossil
#

^

runic agate
#

have i been doing my boonless runs wrong the whole time?

outer dew
#

Whats the point of boonless runs?

sharp fossil
#

eris is hardly the worst choice for boonless, but hestia is generally agreed to be better afaik

sharp fossil
runic agate
#

You get diff dialogue at the end

sharp fossil
#

challenge?

runic agate
#

And fun

outer dew
#

ok

sharp fossil
#

same as the point of heat, honestly

runic agate
#

I'ma level up hestia and do a boonless run later today

#

Thanks for the idea

outer dew
#

I'm not the biggest fan of hestia

#

It feels really clunky

willow token
#

"I'm not using my weapon anyway... may as well buy that Anvil to fill out my Codex..."
Cursed Slash, -60% HP
đŸ‡«

sharp fossil
#

took me a while to warm up to hestia, but it actually feels really good when you get into it

outer dew
#

I've put artemis on the attack but it feels really slow

#

Mabye thats just my playstyle since I love the fists and rail

sharp fossil
#

it’s mostly getting into the rhythm of constantly firing

sharp fossil
#

but yeah totally fair if it’s not your playstyle

#

mostly not mine either but i’ve learned to appreciate it a bit

runic agate
#

Never done a hestia run tbh

outer dew
#

The only slow weapon I like is arthur and thats because I've been getting like 2k crits and its fun

runic agate
#

Personally I like every God

#

They all work in their own build

#

Hell, I've done a multi doom rail run

outer dew
#

Should I use ||gilgamesh|| or demeter for merciful end. I'm trying to get a new pb

topaz yew
#

Opinionated but demeter

willow token
#

What is pb?

sharp fossil
#

i’d also use demeter

#

never got the hang of gilg

outer dew
#

personal best

topaz yew
#

Demeter is great for stacking damage

runic agate
#

Ny PB is with eris and it's like 18 mins and 39 seconds I think

willow token
#

Anyway, I simply don't like Gilg. It messes with my dashing.

sharp fossil
#

so there’s that

runic agate
#

I love gilgamesh

topaz yew
#

i recommend for your special you go with Aphrodite and Ares for non stop doom duo

runic agate
#

I'll smack you with my cinder blocks now

topaz yew
#

plus you can get up to 200+% damage on the charge

outer dew
#

My current pb is with demeter and its like a 11:30 something and maby ||gilgamesh|| is better bcs of the extra dashes

topaz yew
#

like you beat the game in 11:30

#

tf

#

thats possible

outer dew
#

wdym

topaz yew
#

EXACTLY

outer dew
#

Should I send a screenshot?

topaz yew
#

Yeah please

outer dew
#

Can I send it in this channel?

topaz yew
#

i need to see the run boons

#

post it in victory boasting

outer dew
#

k

runic agate
#

I just looked at speedrun.com and it says the best is like 13mins sooook

outer dew
#

sent it

topaz yew
#

Exactly

runic agate
#

Wait

#

No

#

That's irl time

outer dew
#

Yeah 13 min isnt exactly fast

runic agate
#

In game time was 5 mins

sharp fossil
#

oh RTA ye

outer dew
#

lmao

brazen lagoon
#

Rta is def much longer

runic agate
#

I'm stoopid

sharp fossil
#

but the actual number that matters is IGT for any heat

outer dew
#

Im just trying to get like a sub 10

topaz yew
#

hmmm

#

The only way i can see it working

#

With high damage output

#

is probably rushing Sea Storm

runic agate
#

The any heat world record (seeded) is 4m 25s

topaz yew
#

oh

brazen lagoon
#

Fastest I've gotten is 10:47

topaz yew
#

isnt there like 3 records

brazen lagoon
#

I need to get lucky with rooms

runic agate
#

Mine is like 18mins ;-;

outer dew
#

I got extremely lucky since I got athena in like the room after the first one

runic agate
#

The best any heat unseeded run is 5m 57s

outer dew
#

idk how someone can do that

brazen lagoon
#

I remember doing a ME run with gilgamesh

topaz yew
#

so if i recall the 3 speedruns are

  1. Fastest just starting the game
  2. Beating the game as fast as possible with every weapon
  3. Beating The run time Per Weapon
runic agate
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speed

brazen lagoon
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Got it in tartarus

topaz yew
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am i right or wrong?

brazen lagoon
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Euphoria

runic agate
brazen lagoon
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There's a lot of categories

outer dew
topaz yew
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that kinda wuins it

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ruins it doesnt it?

outer dew
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ruins what?

brazen lagoon
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Fresh file, IGT any weapon, RTA any weapon, seeded and unseeded, 3 weapons, 6 weapons, and one weapon only

topaz yew
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OH

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I see the Heat Runs too

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okay i see why

brazen lagoon
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Oh yeah and the heat runs

outer dew
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Check out tailesque 50 heat speedrun

brazen lagoon
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Tailesque is a madman

outer dew
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yup

runic agate
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I'm about to list every single run catagory off of speedrun.com

outer dew
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Didn't haelian beat his rama run?

brazen lagoon
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Think tail got it back or something

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Not too sure

outer dew
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k

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I was trying to beat my old pb with eris and then decided to switch to fists and I saw like a 2 min time drop

topaz yew
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Wait

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Thats the aspect of RAma

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Y

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O

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that looks fun ngl

outer dew
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I love RAMMA

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WIth twin shot it is so much fun

runic agate
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Any heat, 32 heat, 40 heat, 50 heat, fresh file, OwO (this one is really hard cuz you gotta beat 4 runs in a row with all the aspects of that weapon), 3 weapons and all weapons

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Those are all types

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Excluding the early acsess versions

outer dew
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haelian just like got the fresh file to credit speedrun

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It was like 5 hrs

runic agate
outer dew
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Mabye he like made it a new category or something idk

topaz yew
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didnt know the bow was that good

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I might consider it

runic agate
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Also, it's like 10 winning runs to get the credits how did that take 5 hours in terms of no losing runs and going fast

outer dew
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He lost his first run

runic agate
#

Oh

outer dew
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He made a highlights video on youtube

runic agate
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Well that still doesn't add too much time onto it ho

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Tho

outer dew
brazen lagoon
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It's not an actual category yet

outer dew
#

k

brazen lagoon
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Probably because basically no one has tried it

outer dew
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Still idk how you can beat the game in 5 hrs

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It took me like 32

craggy barn
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how to do new save to credits

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step one: beat the game on your first run :)

sharp fossil
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steps two through ten: do that again

grand shale
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why have I never tried fresh file? I keep forgetting the game has multiple save slots

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im gonna try fresh file later today i think

topaz yew
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Does anyone know a way i can mute the game and only play Orpheus for the gameplay

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i would love that

versed verge
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Just mute the game normally and open a playlist in a separate tab

weak hearth
topaz yew
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i mean

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your right but why that way

unborn remnant
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Hades Any% Unseeded All Aspects when

tacit ember
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jesus crist

unborn remnant
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the ultimate test

tacit ember
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i think i found my new favorit weapon

weak hearth
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i need to dump another 40-50 hours in this game

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unless i have the blade

tacit ember
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secret shield = very good

weak hearth
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i suck

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im like a blade one trick

topaz yew
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i think there is a small bug or its just me

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everytime i get the charge fist

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and get the charge up for the q with demeter

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its uses the full charge then charges it up

outer dew
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Feels delayed for me

tacit ember
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damage = very big

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idk i just has an amasing run with it

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did u know that u could load more stones during your bull rush?

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i didnt

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now i do

outer dew
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Yeah

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For me beowulf is just kinda hera bow but worse

topaz yew
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After reaching 10 heat i can see why there is a high heat strategy # now

rotund brook
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yeah after a while ull use 10 heat as a minimum

craggy barn
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i normally do ||11 heat||

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||13 heat||*

rotund brook
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i do 20 most runs but rn im trying for 30

topaz yew
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love ||how Zag and Hades bond by beating each other to death||

rotund brook
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it just be like that sometimes

topaz yew
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true

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||IS Erebus the 5th realm?||

smoky berry
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||isn’t it like an extra realm or smth??||

topaz yew
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||It is but i honestly dont know how to get to it unless its the Charon fight||

smoky berry
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||you buy a contract for 5 diamonds to access it. from my experience it’s another chamber but it has an objective. you can only get it to it with certain heat levels||

topaz yew
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OH

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THAT

smoky berry
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||i only did it once bc I don’t play on high heat but it makes a chamber in each realm other than styx I think||

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||to enter Erebus in Tartarus you have to play on 5 heat, 10 in asphodel and 15 in elysium||

topaz yew
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I havent unlocked it yet im going for it rn

smoky berry
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well good luck!!

rotund brook
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||entering it gives u double of whatever it is its offering. in mythology its where the dead await judgement i believe||

topaz yew
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ty

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i appreciate it

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also fun fact of the day if you say muda muda while using twin fist your guaranteed to have a better day

fleet narwhal
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||erebus is where hades summons his minions from to aid him in the boss fight||

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the minotaur was also condemned to there

craggy barn
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do i need to have reached a certain % with the plume for hermes to give me the legendary or do i just have to hope he gives it to me?

rotund brook
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im still so glad that theseus saved him :c

fleet narwhal
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ive gotten legendary without his plume before

rotund brook
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nah u just need to have it equipped

smoky berry
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yea you don’t need the plume

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you can get it just fine without it

rotund brook
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it increases ur chances tho

smoky berry
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yea

rotund brook
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god i remember avoidinv hermes when I was starting out

smoky berry
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you should also invest in the mirror, there’s an ability that increases ur chance of legendaries and duos

rotund brook
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now i love him sm both the char and the boons

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always invest in the mirror

hollow hawk
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Hades gives boons in the game?

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Wow

rotund brook
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hermes ajnndx

hollow hawk
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lmao

rotund brook
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i kinda hate hades ngl

hollow hawk
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you're made to hate him lol

rotund brook
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its cute how ||he starts to become supportive of zag||

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yeah but still

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my dad was like him when i was younger so i just hate Hate him

ancient crystal
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I only hate him because he got pissed when I tried to give him a bottle