#h1-discussion
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I did that yesterday haha, went up to the point I was in the snowy area with the huge boss awaiting you. He wrecked me though lol
There's a maxed file without records for speedrunning
kinda weird that they didn’t wipe total clears as well tho
63 win streak lmao
speedrunners smh
what’s the probabilities for styx doors?
Might be required to not get the story
that you get 2 sack. is it predefined where it is, or ..?
can’t remember the exact numbers, but there’s a 50 something % chance that you get a 2 sack and 3/4/5 sacks are progressively less likely
like 57% maybe?
don’t recall exactly but around there
oh I see. 2 sack seems very likely, so it’s definitely not an equal distribution
yeah i had it explained to me once but i forgot the specifics lol
Does going into miniboss tunnels increase the likelihood of finding a sack?
it’s the same
you’ll see speedrunners use minibosses because they’re faster to beat, but the chance of the sack doesn’t change
I see
I need an opinion
372% damage from traps for 35% more attack damage
Or no cash for 51% more dash attack damage?
4th aspects are spoilers in this channel as an fyi @spare tiger 
Sorry
I'd pick the first out of those two options
go for attack imo
There's also inferno bombs on death for 95% more cash
imo unless you have the hoarding slash hammer I wouldn't pick that option
First time in Styx wasn't fun with hazard bomb lmao
If you've got Athena's boons it isn't TOO bad
I don’t know. A toon full of those little miss would be messy.
Even with divine dash
Is there a requirement im missing to get fish to spawn in Chaos?
Or am i just that unlucky?
there's no special conditions you need to meet, no
Random is random
it is fairly unlikely that they turn up tho; basically you just gotta hit a lot of chaos gates
I’ve had Poseidon legendary and gotten no spots through an entire biome.
I’ve had other runs with no boon and two surface spots
So quick question. After ||successful escape 10||, am I pretty much past the need to avoid spoilers?
there's still epilogue stuff
and you likely haven't finished the individual character plotlines
Hmmm. Thanks. I’ll try to keep that in mind.
The main story somewhat ends there
are there any prerequisites for poseidon legendary
Which one?
Second wave needs either Typhoon's Fury and Breaking Wave, and one of the knockback boons on top of that
Huge catch needs the fishing rod, i think your favor up with him, and then Two of either Conch Shell, Sunken Treasure or Oceans Bounty
ok, thanks
Is there a list of all middle management changes? Im curious of what the butterfly balls is but I kill it too fast with antos to notice
butterfly ball teleports around the room erratically
Codex helps for requirements as well.
i dont think theres any changes to the warriors
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Tartarus inferno bombers get slam dancer reinforcements
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Doomstone has a new map, with traps!
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Wretched Sneak can summon unarmoured Wringers
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Witches' Circle: has piercing, undeflectable bullets
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Power Couple: Skullcrusher gets a shockwave like Hades' bombs, Megagorgon can teleport around
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Barge of Death has a massive voidstone and only one wave
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Butterfly Ball dashes around the room
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Asterius has no changes
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Styx elite wings have two mini-bosses
Power Couple gorgon also teleports
And isnt there a third tartarus miniboss
that ninja shade that teleports around
Oh yeah the Sneak
is there anything special you have to do for the last chaos boon
Get any boon prior to it
any boon or any chaos boon?
Chaos
word thanks
Codex is pretty elaborate on that
oh I didn't even think to check
Soundtrack got me looking at 7 string guitars again
step one: get a chaos boon
step two: hope
because even with gods' legacy and fated persuasion, the chances of chaos defiance showing up are painfully low
- Asterius is only changed if ||Extreme Measures 3|| is enabled
Yeah exactly, but they asked about MM
i thought it was relevant
hi just wanted to add witches circle sometimes has unbreakable bullets
Eyo, I forgot about the WC
Is there a third miniboss in Elysium now that I think about it?
just asterius and butterfly ball from my experience
either that or a regular room with all armored enemies
only two minibosses per section
with the exception of styx maybe
actually tartarus has 3
what makes the wretched sneak start showing up? because i swear it didnt start showing up untillater
*until later
||spend a total of 5 titan blood on aspects of any weapon that aren't aspect of zagreus, and then hope you get the right conversation with achilles||
also about the burn-flingers in tartarus
Thank you 🙂
there's also a chance the slam-dancers may be replaced by whatever those green bomb guys are called
Orange = Inferno bomber
Green = Burn flinger
Purple = Slam dancer
charlie, it needs to be in the spear?
Asphodel also has 3 - Witches' circle, Power Couple, Barge of Death
Clear a run
nah it can be in any weapon
and it's in total, so you can spend 2 on one aspect in one weapon and 3 on another aspect in another weapon
||Total of 5 TB in non-Zag aspects on all weapons opens the spear aspect, then for the rest it's 5 TB on all aspects in that weapon to open the hidden aspect||
i'm pretty sure i first encountered the sneak before i did a full clear
everytime someone shortens anything to TB i read it as tuberculosis
Maybe it's 30 runs, then? I first saw it on run 30, and my first clear was run 29
I think you just need to make it to the final floor
cuz my parents both work in medicine and tb is the Doctor Abbreviation for it
That’s when the wringers show up too
I'm pretty sure didn't see either until after run 30, and I got out of Elysium in 20-ish runs
i definitely can't keep track of every encounter i do
so i'm just gonna assume the sneak is just when you reach styx
This goes against evidence, but who am I to judge you
Is it unlocked the first time you face the final boss?
Irregardless of if that attempt is a success
what do you mean by unlocked
Is the lucky tooth used before or after death defiance?
after
getting to the surface but not necessarily winning
shows up same time as demeter
and those hand things
We haven't gotten a monthly challenge for January huh?
Damn the discord wasn't lying, eris rail + rocket bomb and cluster bomb really does vaporize enemies.
if we're talking broken builds, you should also try chiron+arty
Also Merciful End fists are insane
Also beo+scintillating feast can be good
if possible just do a full-on aphro build on chiron lmao
maybe doom on attack + curse of longing so you can use privileged status
I wanna try aphro legendary with chiron special tbh
id imagine so
I remember haelian saying on stream once that his fav weapon is chiron bow
I haven't played hidden bow enough to really judge, but it is quite good too yeah
chiron makes short work of bosses though, which hidden bow imo isnt that good at
Heart rend hidden bow shreds bosses
what happens if I continue gifting/talking with the boulder
I have 14 titan blood, what should I use it on?
Ooh alright
||in all seriousness it’s purely meme; nothing happens||
Well he does give you a boon when you give him necter, but it isn't game breaking or anything
I think it's like 5% better attack or something?
oh crap I was fishing in Chaos and I caught a voidskate on my first try
it just gives a random, very minor boost
sometimes it gives you an ambiguity bonus which... i'll let you figure it out on your own
Wait hold on if you abandon a run do you keep the fish you got
Cause I used a DD early on so I aborted my run
did you use “give up” in the menu?
you’ll lose the fish if you did
it’s generally better to just kill yourself in most cases
DAMNIT
I'm so happy to see that I'm not the only one who cares about the fish I catch 😂
“give up” resets the game to the point before your run started, so it also isn’t any use if you had a terrible starting boon
My voidskate is gone
You can only get it in chaos
Oh noooo 
And it’s the rarest one in chaos
I also had gotten it on my first try
Well now I’m sad
Hope you catch another one soon enough.
Hope so
Is there a dialogue line that needs to happen to get skelly statues? i've cleared up to nine heat but not gotten anything to trigger from that
If you completed the game all the way and played lots please answer this ||do we ever get to see that beautiful garden again when mom's home?||
nope but at least you get to see the nice, totally ||permafrost arena where you beat up dad||
Hahaha 🤣 true, true.
id recommend unlocking every aspect (except for zag, most of the times) and trying them out, then sink some blood into the ones you like the most
some aspects like chiron and chaos shield dont get good until you max them out though, so keep that in mind
Flurry Jab is kinda silly
wait guys how do i unlock hidden apects
theres a guide pinned in #h1-builds-and-combat
Just absolutely ate the final boss with flurry jab and Aphrodite's attack boon
flurry jab and charged skewer are my fav spear hammers tbh
flurry anything is usually a good hammer to get
flurry sword slaps
flurry bow slaps too
I rarely use the spin attack unless I'm using || Hades' || spear
So it's basically a straight upgrade
Force of habit
Is there anything to use cthonic keys for other than unlocking weapons and resetting darkness on the mirror because I might just trade in all of my keys for nectar
you can unlock more abilities in the mirror if that's not what you're talking about
Don't think I can unlock anymore
currency for wretched broker
wait nvm
So for nectar, thanks
Nah it's alright 
the most important use for keys are ||that spicy badge|| and ||that spicy victory skin||
Thank you!!
I think you shouldn’t burn ALL the keys. I’m pretty sure there is a timed offer for keys for one of the higher tier resources.
Much better exchange rate.
How do I unlock the secret aspects?
yep, there can be a limited time offer that provides titan blood for 15 keys
Shhhhh. It’s a secret.....
pinned guide in #h1-builds-and-combat
Thank you! ❤️
👍
Good morning fellow Zags!
Good morning.
fudge! i think i need a rapid fire controller
wearing down fingers mashing like crazy against bosses
morning too from the philippines 
especially against the minoataur and co.
not trying to cheat but damn my fingers hurt
especially after multiple playthroughs
knowing how badly designed joycons are, honestly Im asking for them to broken by using them for Hades and Project Diva
yeah and i'm not even playing on that mess
using pro controller
not even sure how anyone can fathom using joycons on this game
need something sturdier and not so flimsy
well I make do with the handle attacher thingies
for this game i think you should get a pass on rapid fire
problem is I think my stick is showing signs of drifting and my R is pretty unresponsive now
given how many times you die and need to replay through
but idk if you know this yet but it can lessen the button mashing
you can hold rail and fist attack
for the spear the saving grace is when you upgrade to rapid stab holding down, but need to forego lame spin attack
easy trade off
sorry my hand hurts and considering getting a cheap rapid fire controller
=/
some of those battles drag on
especially minotaur and friend
think this game crossed over to territory where its no longer cheating at some point to do so.
there's literally an optional god mode in the game just play how you enjoy it
important thing is you're enjoying the game
yeah its a fun roguelite
coming from binding of issac, don't play many of them but hearing good things on this i decided to try it
worth it
I came from Enter the Gungeon
one thing that annoys me is the switch not letting you download things in the background while playing games like hades. I understand if this game was online intensive but its not and no reason practically speaking to enable it here for this game
dont really play it anymore but one of the longest game I had to really play in order to beat and not really feeling to get back to it since it was really stressful to play 
really satisfying tho
i get the switch isn't a powerhouse and its intended to save processing power etc for running games but theres like no online activity in this game
I came from Enter the Gungeon as well and I almost didn't get Hades cause of how much I ended up hating ETG
Just put me off the genre so much but I'm so glad I gave this a chance
hope the developers are listening and disable that nonsense in a patch
Pretty sure that's a switch feature though?
like I don't think any of the switch games allow you to do background downloads
sometimes i want to dl something but play something like hades
might be wrong though
some do iirc
yeah its switch nonsense, ps and xb allow background downloads, switch pauses them for certain games
oh I thought it was all games, my bad
but theres no online in this game so seems pretty stupid to have it present
not sure though
no leaderboards no mp
I think I've played BOTW while there was background downloading
maybe downloading something would make enough of a performance impact for it to be noticable or something
yeah maybe its a developer decision to enable it
or not, if thats the case and listening please disable it as theres no online in this game whatsoever
literally pauses dl when playing hades and seems pointless
I also wonder why download pauses while playing Hades on Switch.
I mean even if it doesn't use internet it might still slow down the gameplay or something since the switch will be having to store the downloaded data while it runs your game
maybe it's just not strong enough to do both, but idk
can understand if playing fortnite or a online game but here makes no sense
yes but other non online games allow it
not sure but something tells me its a decision on the developer side
whether to allow it, might be wrong
🤔
Hmm closest thing I could find was this:
"an active download constantly writes data to disk (or solid state drive, in the Switch's case), which has the capacity to interfere with the process of data being read and written by a running game, further reducing performance."
But nothing on it being a developer choice to do it or not
yes i get that. But there does exist games that let you play on switch and still dl in background
why is this game disabling it?
its not like its online
the game might use less processing power or something
maybe it's harder for the switch to run than the other games though
it might reduce performance (means it might be a little laggy) if they allowed background downloading
^
Have you tried asking in the tech support channel?
usually the argument is when you have an online intensive game
nope, sorry just crossed my mine and just curious
there is a noticeable fps drop when you change weapons too fast
anyways anyword on a series x or ps5 port?
Hades isn't part of the ps5 backwards compatibility?
I don't know much when it comes to playstation and xbox
Do I simply have to keep talking to ||Dionysus to unlock his seventh heart? He’s one of the only three characters I have left with locked hearts and I wasn’t sure if it just took awhile like it did with Artemis or if there was a different prerequisite.(Don’t tell me what the prerequisite is if so)||
there is a prerequisite
There is a prerequisite. All I will say is keep spreading the joy to others.
||arty and athena are the ones with no prerequisites iirc||
Got it, thanks. ||I imagine it’s raise the other relationship levels more, which I assumed I had to do for at least one other character.||
yup
||Dionysus, Aphrodite, and Demeter are the only ones I have left.||
Technically, they all have prerequisites, but some just happen anyway, as you progress.
||youll only need 6 olympian favors out of the 9*||
I figured, I’ve done every single ||prophecy except the one that involves getting close to the other gods.||
There you go, haha
I can only assume ||Demeter’s heart unlocks after that’s completed||
(Don’t confirm it though, either way thanks)
You'll figure out that one when it happens
Thanks, I appreciate the help.
Well, you'll likely figure it out beforehand, once you know enough of the story
Also, I’m bound to ask eventually so, just yes or no, can I ||romance all three potential characters, or do I have to be careful with who I choose first?||
you can do all of em, even at the same time
Neat, thanks.
Also, you want to finish those storylines... for another reason as well.
I was assuming ||Aphrodite’s heart involves that||
I will neither confirm nor deny that
Thanks, this is exactly the response I was looking for.

Slowly warming up to Dusa a bit more
When she || hisses at you when Zag asks about similarities to other gorgon heads is hilarious ||
Why do I feel like Hades gets easier the more you play it?
Maybe because it's a rogue-lite
I think it's pretty simple, you get meta upgrades like the mirror and weapon aspects
And you also gain experience of what to expect at each stage of the run
Yeah, it feels so much harder when starting out
Now it just feels trivial
Not exactly easy
But not as hard
I think my first 'oh yeah, it's time' moment was when I got the final boss without losing a single death defy
Of course death defiance and max health up is a huge carry
Wait what
Woah that's amazing
I was well chuffed with that because there was some very hairy moments against some of the bosses
Bloody Theseus
I tend to lose a death defiance by knocking myself back with cast while doing the "hug dad" strat
has anyone ever done a damageless run
I'm not insane enough to do a no hit run
haelian has done a no damage run yes
Haelian has done everything
wtf has haelian done every possible hades run under the sun
boonless run i can see, just really slow
High level runs
Speaking of death defy, I'm quite liking the alternative infinite DDs but only once per room option
whats a high level run
A lot of poms
oh ok
||rama|| would be useful in that case
Spiderman 2 pizza theme
||rama|| special only and lambent plume pizza run 👀
Funiculi Funicula
I gotta make sure I don't flip into their attacks or Achilles will flip out!
What else will he have on his dinner date with Breisas and Patroclus?
A steak maybe
Also I'm not mad right? The health items are a Maccas happy meal?
gyro
I wonder if the Underworld is just down the road from a Subway shop
good stuff
Hades has a 7% share
Does that make Zag the god of trust funds?
Maybe he's the god of denial
I am so stupid.... I thought the food was a burrito
Well it's a wrap, so you're somewhat correct I guess
Now I want a gyros

Does getting a ||perfect catch instead of a normal catch affect the rarity of the fish you get? I still haven’t gotten the least rare fish on the surface because I don’t want to screw it up and always do it perfectly.||
Yes, you can only get a legendary fish with a perfect catch. However, there is just a chance you get that instead of a rare fish.
The percentage is unknown as wiki's percentage doesn't seem correct.
@waxen juniper E
Good to see ya lad
I'll wait until it's night time so you're officially E'd out :p
NEvEr
That’s B-E-A-E-N-K-E-S, no E.
It is now ;)
And yeah, if you want common fish, you need to purposefully mess up your timing.
Ah okay, thanks.
The percentage? What'd you guys find out?
@runic agate https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T732jM9juhA
I found the lua and sent it over to the modding Discord to examine. It's supposed to be 1/21 per the intention, but a typo made it 50/50 odd (lol)
So it's currently 50/50?
yes
Perfect. Good hunting FoxHope! Artemis would be proud 😁
At first I was wondering why you can’t ||romance Artemis||, then I remembered they’re ||family||
Guess it’s a good time to go fishing then
yeah the game differs from greek mythology to minus out all the incest and complicated family stuff
And that Artemis ||is the God of virginity and many stories involving people wooing her usually end up badly.||
Honestly, I'd be surprised if they fix it. 50/50 is pretty tame
||persephone is actually only half god in hades||
Especially because the odds of getting a legendary consistently is much lower
Also the interpretation is that Artemis is ||asexual (I think)||
But Artemis is just so adorable in the way she acts
Dont you darE steal my gimmick
I will End you
I'M DA GIANT RAT DAT MAKES ALL OF DA RULEZ
Edit: I rarely upload things to YouTube and barely ever check comments, I also did not realize that this video had 3+ million fucking views now. I originally uploaded this purely for myself and my friends, I did not intend for this to become more popular than the original and feel bad that said origina...
what you before you die from poison
congrats!!! dusa is a gift 💗
i love when shades go up to nyx and smile and run away...totally me as a shade
?
Yooo I just got to the credits : )
Nice. That song is amazing
||Extreme measures 3: Theseus loses it||
||Who gave him a gun?||
its hilarious i love it
cat?
Hera bow with aphro cast is just one shotting everything up to elysium
She was a user on this discord
ohh
I beat hades for the first time today :D
Congrats!
sorry marking as spoiler lol
Ah
What was your special? My first win was dionysus special on zeus shield
||than is technically step-bro, isn't he?||
Yeah that's what I thought
But considering it's a Greek mythology game and that's the closest they get, it's pretty impressive
i love thanzag but i thought it was kinda weird that they romanced when zag essentially spent his whole life thinking they were brothers?
I have 150 hours in Hades now and still playing it a lot.
That's the best part about roguelikes
You can dump 200+ hours in them and still be having fun, and they usually are pretty cheap compared to AAA games with no replay value
500+ hours for less than $20 is so good
Hades, at one point, was included alongside Pyre during early access. Two amazing games for the price of one, it was awesome
This is why indie games are superior
hera bow with aphrodite cast is so far the only thing that i can clear with other than talos fists
yeah definitely, hollow knight is $15 and i have 800+ hours
Yeah I love Roguelike games but Hades is the first that I spend more than 100 hours in, 80 hours in Dead Cells beside.
also i found the hidden aspect on the sword
i need more titan blood it sounds really good
That's awesome, I have over 125 hours in Hollow Knight.
I don't know how many I've spent in isaac because half of my playtime was on the flash version in class and also my switch bricked after most of my playyime
I've played 100+ hours in Hollow Knight without playing other games in between.
Hollow Knight is one of those that I need to try
i spent over 6 months in hollow knight just trying to beat the same thing lmao
Is that time made of speedruns, steel soul attempts, pantheons, or all three
It looks really good
Who ?
||pantheon of hallownest||
StS has gotten over 500 hours for me now and I still play
i have 112% in steel soul on all 4 saves
I'm still trying to finish that, I go back to the game sometimes and grind on it.
still not bored
Impressive.
To be fair I think 112% steel soul is easier than any%
I haven't really played much of Steel Soul but one day hopefully I will try to finish it.
112 is definitely easier than any%
Because you just need to survive until the dream stuff where you are INVINCIIIBBBLLEEE
Colosseum does sound quite bad
Is PoP a %?
but you get so many more upgrades and even if you technically arent invincible with 9 masks you might as well be
Nah
fortunately path of pain doesnt give %
Thought it wasn't, that's good
The game does not have the best platforming mechanics, admittedly
path of pain gives a journal entry but that entry isnt required for the achievement or anything
It gives you L O R E
||it gives you a 2 second cutscene lmao||
im sure hollow knight is a good game but for me it was too good at setting an atmosphere
the depressing vibes made me legitimately not enjoy playing it
It shows that || the pale king might've liked the hollow knight a bit?? The moral of the story is never love your children or you will destroy the world ||
the depressing atmosphere vibes make me mad because i cant experience it for the first time again
casual infanticide
I'm hyped for Silksong because the fish out of water first playthrough I had was great
i friggin love hollow knight
And I want to get lost again
yeah same
Same. I have been taking a break though
i havent been playing it a lot in the past week or so cuz school 😔
Btw did you finish it ?
actually being good at the game makes it slightly less epic
only slightly tho
yeah
or at least ive been spending my gamer time playing, like, grindstone
put nearly 300 hours into the game (mostly endgame stuff)
What's that ? I forgot about it.
Recently I've been playing Hades and Team Fortress 2, that's about it
||radiance|| moment
Nice, I still havent yet.
I got age of calamity, hades, and katana zero at around the same time
That's a lot of action gaming
It's the || dream bosses like the Failed Champion and the Pantheons ||
Playing both Dead Cells and Hades
I had just finished every rhythm heaven
I played dead cells for a couple months without winning, put it down for a year, and then won on my first run
I'm also playing Ace Attorney Investigations 2 off and on, which is great if you like visual novels at all
Tengoku is great
Dm me if you want a rom for a translation
i think i have one i just havent played it yet
I see.
i want to get botw but hnnng silksong
get botw
silksong wont be out anytime soon
are purging pool spawns random? i was trying to do a boonless run but unfortunately zero pools spawned in styx so i had no choice in the end
does every heat level reset bounties or does it stop at some point
Goes up to 20(?) I think
ok thats definitely enough lmao
whats the default manual reload button supposed to be on switch
Right stick click
I swapped it with the left though, after recently realizing that it would be clearly easier considering how much more I use left stick than right
oh i couldnt figure out what it was supposed to be so i rebound it to left stick click
i thought it was some weird face button i didnt have
or they formatted a or r badly
How does the last stage work with % of finding the "snacks for the dog?" (idk what they are lol)
like. I never find it on the first door but on the 2th I find it 80%+ of the time
it will never be in the first tunnel, that's intended
it has a chance to spawn at the end of a tunnel once you have passed a minimum of 7 chambers. 2-3 might be weighted to have higher priority but i couldn't say 100%
tunnels 2-3, to clarify
🤔
Ive never had a chamber of 7?!
its mostly 3-4 long
or are we talking about a different subject
the only time i didnt get it on the second tunnel i didnt get it until the last one
yeah
No that's the point, that's why it can't spawn in the first tunnel, it's set to where the minimum amount of chambers needed before the sack can spawn means you must go through at least two tunnels
i see
Hey I'm trying to unlock secret aspects of weapons and I've been reading different instructions on every source about what to do with my titan blood, can someone please help me? 😅
@narrow hemlock What's with tunnels 2 and 3 ?
You can get sack there
Did you read the pins in #h1-story-discussion ?
Starting from left to right ?
That's the corect one. If you need to know something specific you can just ask
Nah just in the order you choose
Oh I see.
Well not always get sack there. Just that you can't get it first tunnel
No matter what you choose
There is nothing special about them
Oh my God. Thank you. I must've clicked the wrong thing earlier. When I'm unlocking aspects can it be the zagreus one on each weapon that I put the blood into?
Okay. Thank you!
i was saying that the sack tends to be weighted more towards the second or third tunnel you choose
poor wording on my part but thats all i meant
Yes I understood don't worry.
That’s so dumb lol. I hate the poison
Spearpoint is good
thats what it feels like at least
lol
How is it Hades related?
Stacking revenge effects
hades
What are your recommended hades weapons? 
All
👁️👁️
I prefer the spear of all of them
It’s pretty good for both ranged and close up combat
sword or bow
Love me some fist
i go all in either for close combat or long range
i just dash away
Yeah but in a small room it ain’t that good 😔
i used the bow maybe three times total during the 200+ runs of my first playthrough, from early access up to v1.0. always found it slow and weird. tried it again during my latest playthrough and loved it, just the whole rhythm of charge / powershot / dash away
if i really cant use the bow in the room then i go for a close range cast
maybe throw in a special here or there
bow is all about getting a vibe on the rhytm of fire dodge fire dodge, for me at least. cause it can be a wild dps once you get into the groove of firing off powershots
or chiron plus a nasty stackable special
spear's range and flexibility can be really nice, but i think it tends to feel very lacking with upgrades, blood or hammers
Bow is all about the dash strikes
Yeah that’s true 😔
But if you get some special/attack upgrades it’s a blessing
i love hades spear because big spin go whoosh
i love hades spear, like dang thats a big speen
Speeeeeen
spear and bow i touched less than 5 times total maybe, during my first playthrough, over many many many many hours of playing, and now i'm getting in on what i missed out on
zeus shield beyblades so good
Just try them all and chose the one you prefer, they're all pretty good and each aspect has a different play style.
i love anything than sends big spinny doohickeys flying across half the screen
I use spear for 90% of my run through
@junior vigil You can fight close ranged with bow as well.
i feel like achilles spear is the most new player friendly? of the spear aspects
Not really?
Are you talking about the bows special?
lets you do charge, button mash attacks, rinse and repeat, then if you wanna get more build inventive, do a cast focused run
All of it.
if you have aim assist and you have a good rhythm with the power shot, bows are powerful at close range
you can get the hammer that increases damage for closer enemies
Huh 🤔
There's a bow upgrade that increases damage if attacking close enemies.
I suppose I prefer the spear still though
i just get used to dash, powershot, dash, powershot, and i love it
everyone has their own prefs!
i personally main the sword
Swords cool
Dont bother chosing the upgrade that increases damage on far away enemies btw, its not worth it and hard to set it up.
I’m trying to get used to most of the weapons so I can get a lot of Titans blood
So I can make my spear more powerful 
Yeah I did that too.
i would if i didn't like poseidon sword so much that i'm not as used to the other weapons as i should be
I haven't really played with dark thirst.
So far I mostly play with Hera bow and Achilles spear, I'm not sure anymore if Achilles spear is still my favorite, I might love both of those equally.
is hera bow the one where you load the cast?
Yes.
does it work like ||the secret shield where it releases the casts when it hits an enemy||?
I have never vibed with spear
i havent played around with that too much
0 vibes
mostly used chiron
I don't know I haven't unlocked it yet.

Yes
what do you like about it?
I’ve always found myself able to get through 80% of my runthroughs barely taking any damage with the spear, also if you get good boons like athenas or Zeus the spear turns into a killing machine 
And I like how it’s easy to use it as both a ranged and up close weapon
Lot of freedom with the spear.
Mhm ^
I think the opposite, but I guess it depends on the player
||secret spear|| is super fun
I just don't get the same vibes when I use the standard attack
Spear is definitely not slow
Achilles spear in particular is pretty fast.
once you get used to its playstyle you can definitely use it fast
true
i just started using the guan yu
its fun pretty much only if you get the right daedalus hammers
Weird, Thanatos was the employee of the day, I went to my room and came back and it changed to Cerberus, also Nyx was there before I came back and now gone.
Good shield builds?
I don't find the sword fun at all haha
Spear and Shield are my current favourites
Malphon is my fav
I haven't used those too much
i'm just obsessed with a certain build with the sword
poseidon aspect + crush shot + exit wounds + pressure points
continuous damage is fun
and if you get flurry cast and artemis legendary it's gold
I'm obsessed with no builds, I love this game
i like all the other weapons too
its just the sword and bow are better for my playstyle
bow is so slow, i just cant mess with it
I love approval process 
Dash and shoot repeatedly, dash shots charge faster
let me stand here for like 7 seconds to do a dmg
It's all about dash strikes
Exactly
hmm, i'll have to try, but man...
Dash strikes takes less than a second I believe
just to fire, or to charge/fire?
The charged shot
If you aren't doing dash strikes on bow I can tell why you don't like it lol
I literally dash/shoot my way through everything
lol, i'm at ||H17 ||on everything, but ||H4 ||w/ bow
Except for ||the fourth bow||, that still takes awhile to charge, but the damage is unreal so it makes up for it
Even with that, dash strikes are the way
But of course, although I do love its special as well
Currently trying to beat ||H32|| for the first time using it.
I almost read that as || H2O ||
Water?
Lmfao
ima learn me some dashshoot
Oh right @coral pilot if you still can’t get the hang of the bow’s dash charge shot, you could try and shoot for getting the Flurry Shot upgrade.
That’s what Skelly is for~ 
i think the only clears i've gotten have been from flurry shot lol
You'll get used to do perfect shot consistently at some point.
Its a question of timing, you'll know how long to hold on to do it.
i dont think ive ever done dash strikes consistently with a bow
i just stop in place to charge it
maybe thats why my bow runs take so long
a wins a win
How do I quickly get 3 titan blood
I just unlocked the exagraph hidden aspect and wanna buy it
win
well you dont have to win
just kill meg with 3 different weapons or different heat
if you have 3 Ambrosia, you could trade for it
artie > zeus > dio > ares > athena > demeter
*in order of which i think is easier
i dont remember what aphro's was like
||Does the beowulf shield guard a different area?||
what
||Like when charging up for a bull rush. With normal shields it guards the area you are facing, but with the aspect of beowulf it appears to be held in a different direction||
||Nvm, it has the same hitbox||
keep talking to him
|| does hades have a keepsake?||
well ||yes, later on||
Any cool new Hades runs for anyone as of late?
Got the farthest I've ever been, beat Theseus and got Asterius down to half health
Congrats!!
I was using Chironacht with Drunken Flourish
I definitely encourage getting bull man down first in the future.
as my main damage dealer
Chiron+Drunken Flourish is a solid combination
Right? Instant 5 stack if it hits
Indeed. It is quite nice

pet the snake lady head
snake lady head or snake head lady?
snake head lady head
surprised that exists but not one for the dog
be the change you want to see in the world.
how can i utilise stygian soul properly
i don't see how it can be any more useful than infernal soul
i think it works best with slicing shot and crystal beam
especially with bad news from hermes
extra casts from chaos/arty legendary are essential basically
either that or good hermes boons
which one is this?
hermes legendary boon, you can only get it if you have stygian soul on
its the hermes legendary that allows you to deal 50% more damage to people that dont already have a bloodstone in them
ah yeah, i dont recognise the name because i've never used it lol
it causes your cast to deal more damage if the target doesn't already have a bloodstone lodged in them
quick reload is also great for stygian
Thats gr8 bc i never use the dang stone anyway bc im a dummy
i see i see, thank you for the input
i'm trying it out right now and honestly i'm an idiot for not realising that you don't actually need to dislodge the bloodstone from the enemy before using it again
just need to wait the 3 seconds
I used to consider Ares to have the best boons but now I think that belongs to Artemis
I like using artemis boons with the twin fists
You can get your damage to insane levels
https://imgur.com/a/XUUVhxW like this fight
Lightning Strike Deadly Flourish is a staple on Demeter Fists
Her crit chance feels like it never procs for me
Flourish has a higher crit rate and damage than attack
So it depends on what you have
Ooh
I’m trying to get enough titan blood to get both the rail hidden aspect and to fully upgrade aspect of demeter
But holy christ it’s expensive
that... but with demeter fists
1000 shekels
how do i get rip current
you can look through the codex for any prerequisites
That’s not nearly enough shekels
never used the codex b4 thx
true
I didn’t have the aspect of demeter at that point
Sadky
Sadly
||I was THIS close to beating hades with guan yu||
you'll get it eventually
||that one's fun as hell but i usually die because of my low health||
i tried stygian soul with hunting blades + fully loaded. super fun. i had 6 casts going on at once.
i almost beat ||EM4, with only a sliver of health remaining on him||
just got so many free rooms in asphodel lol
i got a fountain chamber, and then a chaos gate in the next room and then eurydice after chaos and then final shop after eurydice
if i was speedrunning, i wouldve basically passed through asphodel in like ~1 min
i think i will make a new file and see in how many runs i can complete the game
so
to find the duo boon Hunting blades
I need to already have the cast from Ares right?
or can I also find it if I have the cast from the huntress?
or just having any 2 1tier from both goddess
??
Ares Cast is an essential prerequisite for Hunting Blades.
is it the only way to get the duo ?
like, you must have ares Cast otherwise it wont drop the duo ?
Exactly.
thx!
The prerequisites for Artemis boons are a bit more lenient. Attack, Special, Dash and Call all work towards getting the Duo.
tfw you're running deadline and the satyr sack is in the last tunnel

Go for it
Hades was so good I had to uninstall to focus on school lol
Hades brought my passion for games back to life
Thank you, Hades devs
I found this duo boon with zeus and poseidon that just makes the cast like 3 burst things that do a lot of damage
its kinds broken tbh
hi, i have not downloaded hades yet and i'm wondering, does it work on Mac silicon (M1)?
I found a lot of different information on the internet
Zeus and Artemis is probably my favorite duo boon Zeus has. Just set the bloodstones near the boss and let them do all the work.
Duos are either amazing or a bit too gimmicky
Stubborn roots was clutch on my first successful run with the shield but to be honest I would rather keep my death defies than rely on not getting hit long enough for the healing to be useful
does merciful end apply to any deflect ability or just attack or special
You have to have attack/special to get it but it applies to any defect ability
yeah thats what i thought, thank you
does me just insta-proc if you have holy armor and curse of vengeance
Nothing in hades is "broken" as everything is almost as intended
You ever tried achilles blade rift?
Or insane posiden sword cast run?
Or just eris in general?
Pretty unrelated, but are hades voice clips free to access from somewhere?
do you think the devs saw "Malphon + Curse of Agony + Divine Dash + Merciful End + Greatest Reflex (Heroic)" coming
Yes
I defo think that they did
Hades is just too good
Of a game
To
Not
See
It
Coming
It's not too broken, you have to actually get ME to pop up
assuming getting ME is the problem when heroic greatest reflex exists
the thing that makes hades balanced isnt that the devs predicted and had everything happen just as they built it to, but instead that they took insane amounts of community feedback when the game was at early access
true, good point
haelian once said on stream that amir himself reached out to him to ask for any feedback even when haelian was getting like 100 views on youtube
Just gonna ask my question again Can people access Hades voice clips from anywhere
Hell, it's a rougelite, a game genra that you are supposed to be strong in
Prolly somewhere in the games files but no off the top of my head I don't know
I looked for a bit but only found obfuscated things
wdym anywhere? you cant get the dialogue audio files from anywhere, that im pretty sure of
Then idk I don't do stuff like that prolly just look it up
Yea its just that I see that some people here have posted voice clips so
your best bet is to just record whatever voice lines you want
I was wondering where they got them from
They made them.
Weird cuz the file names seem like they're unchanged
Like "Thanatos_0131.wav" for example
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/624746351204237314/804354814770413578/unknown.png
when merciful end shows up, rng stabs me in the back once again
Does someone know it or where to ask it?
perhaps #h1-tech-support ? though i think that would be more inclined towards bugs of the game, but you could try that. sorry i'm not any help directly
Ok, thank you anyway
text translated only
i'm pretty sure, anyway
i've only played on german and english
matching up to the english va's would be quite the trek
Lets go i just got my first sub 14 time with eris
What ||heat|| things should I put on if I want to get faster
You can do ||FO1|| if you're a bit apprehensive
I figured ||EM2|| cus the lernie heads spawn closer together
Im not trying to get a world record or anything but just get my own best time
Actually ||TD|| isn't really recommended unless you're doing real time
Because it removes the survival rooms from spawning
They pause your time so it's essentially a free room
How does ||FO|| help tho
They spawn faster
ok
I thought they only moved and attacked faster
Also just managed to finish the quest to complete all the ||pact of punishment|| things
if this has happened for you, that’s a bug
no, it's true
oh crap. I got mixed up with than rooms and survival rooms
||TD|| removes the survive for 1 minute rooms
yeah than rooms will still happen
but survival rooms shouldn’t (on any level of|| TD||)
Tru I realized I've never gotten survival rooms since I started using ||TD|| since it was easy ||heat||
So I just used ||TD|| for every run
hey guys does thanatos have long hair or not i cant tell 
PEOPLE ALWAYS DRAW HIM W IT
I DONT KNOW IF ITS CANON OR NOT I

nah hes got that leon kennedy hair
I pulled up a picture and I think it’s just the hood that makes it look long
but let’s just say he has long hair lol
if it was long there'd be too many sephiroth jokes
than has that 90s boyband hearthrob hairstyle look
U DONT UNDERSTAND BRO MY CRUSH ON LEON KENNEDY IS HUGE
OHHHH BABY
THAT MAKES ME CRUSH ON THANATOS EVEN MORE
💋
than is actually a washed-up kpop star
I have a perfect description of his hair but its local thing lol
search "Kimpi hairstyle"
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1344403851563028481 theres this but the caption implies that him having long hair is Not The Norm
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/castlevania/images/c/c3/Death.png/revision/latest?cb=20140529125455 i want thanatos to cosplay castlevania death
is aphro cast the best one for ||beo aspect||
Maybe not the best, that depends on playstyle, but yes, it's good
hmmmm i personally like ares
whats the max level you can reach with poms on a boon
i think 7
There's no max level
Zeus' cast is pretty crazy on that if you have all the synergies like double bolts, jolt, and the legendary
oh fr?
Yeah
whats your fave duos
WR is like lvl 51 or something
wr?
World record
the diminishing returns also reach a cap on poms as well
OH daaaym
HOW DO U EVEN DO THAT

You normally don't want to pom a boon past level 6 or so
damn shawty
Though there is minor spoilers
I equip that after Tartarus. Get the boons I want from one keepsake, then go to boosting
I was listening to "Electric Feel" by MGMT and I came up with a Hades appropriate spoof
I said, "ooh, Zeus
Shock me like an electric Goose
Maybe Zeus
Turn me on with your electric Boons"
I'll do you a solid: Thanatos cosplaying Grim from the Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy

Ares as Hoss Delgado
LMFAOOOO
Can you do Dionysus as Johnny Bravo?
YES ABSOLUTELY
meg tries to punch zag but he just dodges and knocks her to the ground, hands on the spike trap
im
im so embarrassed
thanatos said something really nice and i ended up sitting infront of my laptop grinning and giggling like an idiot and then i realized my grandma was in the room trying to tell my that she was going home
it does be like that though
i can never look her in the eye again
“heya sonnyboy you done simping over your virtual boyfriend yet”




