steam controller question i had like
#h1-discussion
rough token
I think there're some more steps
rough token
a while ago
Oh right, the extra buttons?
warped iron
yeah
rough token
No more word on that, sorry
warped iron
😩
digital python
love how the game is basically encouraging u to be polyamorous lmao
warped iron
rough token
Steam Controllers have extra buttons
On the bottom
Hades currently doesn't recognize them directly
scenic stream
Try playing around your controller settings in steam, because a friend uses them just fine
loud canopy
I finally made it into Elysium
scenic stream
Have you tried big picture mode ?
loud canopy
and then I was instantly murdered by butterflies
fresh crest
killed by a butterfly 🥲
rough token
Try playing around your controller settings in steam, because a friend uses them...
You can, but not directly, they need to be bound as something else
As far as I understand
warped iron
no issue per se, just
rough token
Convenience?
warped iron
curiosity, really. not going to say much more as I'd have to talk about datamined content.
rough token
Somewhat curious, actually, mind DMing me or pinging me in the modding server?
scenic stream
I'm surprised the server's still up actually
Ig SG doesn't care as much as Bamco does 
rip to the LAD7 server
warped iron
from what i can tell though, nobody cares about actual creative mods. the cheat mods have gotten so many more downloads than things like
weapon aspects rework
it's a shame
scenic stream
Some people just like the abusive way :/ it's sad but at least it's still in roguelike style
manic bobcat
it's a shame
I think give it some time. The game is still new, people don't want to grind. Down the line, I would think that content mods would be a lot more popular.
Looking at stuff like Isaac or Gungeon where item mods are very poplar.
inland shell
Wow I just got hit by the scammer
pseudo halo
Have you tried feeding it a Cthhonic key?
meager steppe
Give it ambrosia
It just wants to forge a bond
And all it needs is a bit of your personal information
pseudo halo
So wholesome
digital python
bruh i encountered the tiny vermin for the first time
wtf
this is the Worst Boss. I hate this tiny rat
copper canopy
I thought it was funny
hasty lantern
I only encountered it once...it was my doom.
copper canopy
Does bringing ||the Yarn of Ariadne to Theseus repeatedly|| do anything besides getting a different conversation?
I’ve done it about three times, a couple by accident, and it seems like I should keep doing it.
manic bobcat
not gameplay wise I don't think
flat halo
Question
Any tips for grinding darkness and gems without access to heat because I haven’t been able to beat the final boss?
desert meadow
Use dark thirst whenever you can.
prisma wind
Chaos and Poseidon are your friends if you're trying to grind darkness/gems
desert meadow
^
runic agate
^
digital python
NOOO i was so close i was like so close ||hades|| was at like 2% health D: i almoost got him... so close
😔
runic agate
F
digital python
i blame that rat
if it weren't for that nasty lil rat i'd have at least death defiances going into that fight.... hate that tiny vermin
pearl saddle
What does administrative ppermission do?
digital python
What does administrative ppermission do?
u access a room where u can look at a log of all ur previous runs basically
tells u what weapon u were using, what boons, when & where u died etc.. also has a log of all the tims u've used a boon or hammer upgrade or a weapon... i think im not sure
also u can drink water & inspire some ahdes
it kinda confuses me cuz on the permanent record the times weapons have been used only adds up to like 21 when i've made over 30 attempts?
pearl saddle
I guess Zagreus went in bare handed a couple of times
digital python
i dont think that's possible
pearl saddle
K so I should get darker thirst instead
digital python
ye probs
prisma wind
It's required to progress certain relationship tracks
digital python
it is?
pearl saddle
Which ones?
prisma wind
Anything that requires a contract, Orpheus excluded
pearl saddle
How do I get gems fast?
flat halo
Is there a way to grind diamonds efficiently without higher heat or 10 bottles of nectar
ornate bear
Well the only ways of getting diamonds are:
||
- bounties from the hydra
- 50% of the time in the shop in Styx
- trades at the shop in the House
- common fish in Greece
- rewards from some prophecies
||
So you can decide what's most efficient for you to get diamonds from
pearl saddle
What about gems?
ornate bear
for gems, you want chaos boons for +% gems/darkness, and Poseidon's Ocean's Bounty boon, and his Sunken Treasure boon
pearl saddle
COME ON
ornate bear
also ||fishing|| in Tartarus and Styx
pearl saddle
THE ONE KEEPSAKE I DONT HAVE IS POSEIDON
I DONT KNOW WHY I DONT HAVE IT
||rod of fishing|| is a spoily boi?
ornate bear
I think so since you unlock it after getting to ||Hades|| for the first time
waxen juniper
THE ONE KEEPSAKE I DONT HAVE IS POSEIDON
Wait, you don't have cool uncle's rad trinket???
scenic stream
I love that artemis calls him fat
wise sparrow
winter harbor
You should be using aphro boons in your runs anyway, highest +damage%
zenith crown
I'm missing a cosmetic item for the west hall. Any ideas?
winter harbor
did you buy every type of column?
zenith crown
For the main hall? No?
winter harbor
I think some west hall stuff is locked behind the ||divine|| columns
fleet acorn
aphro is probably one of the better gods out there anyway
good +damage%, weak is great, and legendary is good too
also good duos e.g. heart rend, low tolerance
zenith crown
Alright thanks. I'll try it.
pearl saddle
What are flame wheels, I've never seen them but I'm trying to buy all the Well of Charon items and saw the name, what are they?
winter harbor
tiny mewing chariots that kamikaze when they run after you
silent tree
What are flame wheels, I've never seen them but I'm trying to buy all the Well o...
An annoying enemy in zone 3, the item only shows up in zone 3 and prevents them from spawning
silent tree
Also note that touch of styx and kiss of styx are distinct items
gritty roost
Less annoying if youre ranged though
silent tree
Took me ages to realize that
waxen juniper
They usually aren't terrible, but there are some weapons that can be very tough to use with flame wheels around.
pearl saddle
What's touch of styx?
gritty roost
Replenish DD
pearl saddle
Isnt kiss of styx replenissh DD
silent tree
It's used with the other death defiance option
silent tree
Yeah
waxen juniper
Touch of Styx lets you restore 10% more health from a stubborn defiance for a certain amount of rooms.
Kiss of Styx replenishes a stubborn defiance
scenic stream
He appears all the time so I guess not ?
waxen juniper
Now Touch of Styx Dark (Patroclus' item) lets you restore 50% more health with stubborn defiance. So you gain 80% health back on death. It is huge!
If you get a two sack, you can also get this effect in the final boss.
No, than is not a spoiler
scenic stream
||Idk if he appears only after beating Hades once or just constantly||
pearl saddle
No he appeared before for me
scenic stream
Now Touch of Styx Dark (Patroclus' item) lets you restore 50% more health with s...
Isn't it 50% more from the original 30% ? So like, 45%
scenic stream
Nice
silent tree
He shows up after reaching zone 3, iirc?
waxen juniper
Yea, it is big health gain.
pearl saddle
I have the best build ever
fleet acorn
yeah touch of styx dark is great
pearl saddle
triple shot quick charge artemis ||rama||
waxen juniper
Touch of Styx dark is almost always a must take with stubborn defiance.
silent tree
triple shot quick charge artemis ||rama||
You had me until that last word
The aspect is so slllllow
pearl saddle
Quick charge tho
waxen juniper
Triple shot with that bow is very good
fleet acorn
||rama|| is, imo, like top 3 in aspects 🤷
silent tree
The only time I've done well is by pretending it didn't have an attack
real fossil
when i play || rama || i rlly just spam spec
pearl saddle
Yeah yur supposed to use attack a lot
silent tree
I'm just not good with the bow
pearl saddle
oh im a bow main
real fossil
zeus on spec is funny, ares on spec and dire misfortune is also funny
pearl saddle
The best is aphro on spec tho]
real fossil
went to || 40 heat || with those builds
waxen juniper
I like hangover on special for that bow
fleet acorn
i just play whatever unless its shield and then i just have less fun than usual
pearl saddle
I just dont like rail
silent tree
Standing still long enough to charge a reasonable shot is hard for me
fleet acorn
rail w/ zeus attack like doubles your dps
waxen juniper
I really like the variety in preferences with this game.
silent tree
There's always something trying to crawl up my butt
waxen juniper
There's always something trying to crawl up my butt
Have you tried wearing skinny jeans?
silent tree
Aspect wise, I'm more of a ||Arthur|| and zeus main
real fossil
top 3 aspects for me are probs eris rail, chaos shield, and secret bow
silent tree
With spear making common appearances
real fossil
secret spear also fun
waxen juniper
I switch it up all the time, but the most reliable for me is easily achilles and eris
pearl saddle
Im on a supply run and I got my best build
waxen juniper
Supply run?
pearl saddle
I guess this is no longer a supply run
waxen juniper
Can you explain?
pearl saddle
runs I do where I avoid boons and buffs favoring darkness and any permanent things
like gems
waxen juniper
Ah okay. You should always go poseidon if you're doing that route
pearl saddle
Yeah
waxen juniper
Ocean's Bounty!
waxen juniper
You need to talk to cool uncle and fix that 
real fossil
and take || sisyphus companion|| if u got there
fleet acorn
are ||companions|| even spoilers
pearl saddle
Ahh yeah im working to get that
fresh crest
Nah I don’t think so 🤔
pearl saddle
are ||companions|| even spoilers <:thanthink:669246004142538753>
Yes, theyre very hard to get and def post-game
real fossil
just spoilering anything that probs could be idk better to be safe
fresh crest
Cause you can get them whenever pretty much
pearl saddle
Yeah you can but not many people are gonna get them on first escape
silent tree
You can get them whenever, but you'll probably gonna beat the game first
fresh crest
Yeah fair
pearl saddle
Its like the ||secret aspects||, you can technically get them any time, but youre prob gonna get it after first escape
fleet acorn
in theory you could get ||companion rib|| before beating the game, right?
fresh crest
Yeah
waxen juniper
I forget what makes his heart unlock though
fresh crest
Oh wait nvm
silent tree
Just a lot of talk
pearl saddle
Wait I thought you needed ||to meet hades||
fleet acorn
oh wait nvm ||skelly favor||
silent tree
Hmm, maybe?
pearl saddle
Oh I found out, any prophecy that says reach the surface is just ||get to the fight, not win it||
fresh crest
Yeah you’d have to save it all and kinda know what you were doing with it
silent tree
You can grind the shop for blood
pearl saddle
how?!
silent tree
I did that for a decent while in between my first and second clear
fresh crest
Yeah hahah technically
pearl saddle
I want ||arthur||
fresh crest
Wouldn’t it take a while?
fleet acorn
||beat meg with 5 different weapons, beat theseus once, and then do skelly favor and tada companion before beating game||
fresh crest
You can trade at the broker in the lounge
fleet acorn
couldn't you also grind ||styx shop|| for blood
fresh crest
Get like 500 keys for 1 blood, ez
pearl saddle
Yeah but you need ||ambrosia||
silent tree
couldn't you also grind ||styx shop|| for blood
Yeah that
fleet acorn
and then just die in tunnels or smth
pearl saddle
Oh I went and grinded cash and sold all my boons then actually beat ||hades||
fresh crest
Oh I went and grinded cash and sold all my boons then actually beat ||hades||
||oh you beat him??||
pearl saddle
||oh you beat him??||
I dont know how i did it
fresh crest
I dont know how i did it
Congrats! Been kicking about here a few times while you were trying haha
fleet acorn
my first clear was some serious clownage with exploding launcher
spent like 10 minutes in final boss room
fresh crest
I literally thought I was going to have a heart attack my first time
pearl saddle
How much does the delete flame wheels cost
fresh crest
Just about ripped through my chest it was beating so hard
fleet acorn
How much does the delete flame wheels cost
75 obols
silent tree
My first clear was fast jab spear with zeus attack and supporting fire
fresh crest
Supporting fire is 👌
pearl saddle
I love supporting fire
silent tree
Was also the first time I beat the champs
pearl saddle
especially with ||rama|| spec
silent tree
Supporting fire is a big part of the reason artimis is best girl
Also her cast and call
fresh crest
Her Max call is insane
fleet acorn
poseidon call is my personal favorite
fresh crest
I used to think her call was rubbish until I used it maxed and I couldn’t believe the damage
Maybe I need to give that one another chance 🤔
fleet acorn
hits just as hard if not harder than aphro/arty if you stick close to your target
just worse for groups
silent tree
Posiden call in uncontrollable for me, idk why
fresh crest
I’ll try it tomorrow when I’m on
silent tree
Maybe it's a bit of lag, maybe it's wasd controls
silent tree
The upside of Aphrodite or Artemis call is that you don't have to aim
You wait until the thing pops up, press F, and kill an entire phase of the boss
pearl saddle
the ironic part about artemis call is shes an archer which is all about aim but you dont aim at all with her call
Wait are flame wheels the explosive chariots?
silent tree
Yeah
shy minnow
Bruh I keep getting to the end boss getting them at 15% health second phase then dying
fleet acorn
the ironic part about artemis call is shes an archer which is all about aim but ...
i justify it as "artemis is the one aiming not me"
uncut yoke
can someone do me a favor
hades deleted my save file that i worked on for 2 days and i really don't want to start over. does anyone have an equivalent save file of something like that
the only ones i can find are 100 percented
winter harbor
like how much progress did you think you made?
pearl saddle
||theseus just speared minotaur||
azure violet
Supporting fire is 👌
And it’s satisfying
pearl saddle
Is there an ||ice|| instakill?
fleet acorn
Is there an ||ice|| instakill?
what do you mean by that
fleet acorn
don't die and also win
real fossil
Is there an ||ice|| instakill?
the ||dem|| legendary boon makes it so || chilled enemies die when at 10% health|| if thats what u mean
real fossil
oops got it
flat halo
Right now I have the kamehameha fist
Spamming special that also pushes them and bounces enemies into walls
And fists that weaken
real fossil
what boons do u have
flat halo
Heartbreak Strike
Tempest Flourish
Trippy Sho
Blade Dash
No aid
Maxed Spiked Collar
Got Razor Shoal - Breaking Wave combo
And Rouling Flourish
real fossil
tbh for final boss just take ur time, make sure to apply that special debuff but remember bosses are immune to knockback
real fossil
ur using talos fists right?
real fossil
oh vanilla fists
flat halo
Uh... zag’s fist then
real fossil
my bad
flat halo
First time boss lol
winter harbor
don't die
flat halo
4 dashes too
real fossil
nvm just make sure to pace urself and avoid the || skull projectiles||
oh thats good
capitalize on the dashes
real fossil
and when u see ||the wind up for his spin attack|| just gtfo HAHAHAA
runic parrot
good luck!
real fossil
good luck!!!
flat halo
Cheers
runic parrot
don't die on us
real fossil
gods bless u
real fossil
dw took me a few attempts to beat final boss
at least u know some of the attacks now
winter harbor
lemme guess, the ||second phase||?
dire delta
hey so at the blood pool there are these two round pillars with jewels on top of them and I was wondering how I get rid of those? They're messing with my aesthetic. I dont see them anywhere on the contractor though
flat halo
Is Plunder the best use of gems
And for diamonds, Vanquisher’s Keep then Darker Thirst
real fossil
plunder's okay but tbh i mostly skip troves now cuz they take too long but early on when ure not really concerned with speed runs and time, go for it
i really love vanquisher's keep
really upped my gem gathering
flat halo
How many darkness for max thick skin
At 600 and building up to final death defiance
I have no idea how my old early access save file have 4000 darkness while only with 16 runs
While I am at 11 run with only 1/4 of that
silent tree
How many darkness for max thick skin
625
real fossil
starting a run get a keepsake for the god u wanna base ur build around
if u dont have a specific build in mind hypnos purse is also good to start with
moving on into asphodel, i mostly just get the boon of another god that'll improve my build or athena boon to get the dash if i dont have it (as much as i hate relying on athena dash, it's just too good)
in elysium, if im happy with my general build i switch to acorn and usually keep that in styx too
this is my for my usual try hard runs; i use other boons for fun runs HAHAHAHA
silent tree
the gods let you mold your build over time, collar, feather duster, and tooth are good for survival, black shawl and skull earring give a decent situational damage boost
shackle is good for meme runs
I feel like I don't give Acorn as much credit as other people
small marsh
It's funny how you can spend some runs constantly thinking you are going to lose, right up until you win.
flat halo
Is there anything for farming
small marsh
Is there anything for farming
Yes, just keeping trying. Bosses you previously defeated drop Darkness
flat halo
Damn
real fossil
how i decide on collar vs tooth vs acorn:
- collar max gives +50 health, plus extra health on revives if u have em
- tooth max, revives u at 100; so +100
- acorn max gives u +5 resists in boss fights; against ||dad|| that's like 200 health total if u get hit by his regular attacks
flat halo
Is there any use for urn of wealthy
small marsh
Always take the weapon with Dark Thirst
small marsh
Is there any use for urn of wealthy
Yes, get it
There aren't really any useless Work Orders
silent tree
how i decide on collar vs tooth vs acorn:
- collar max gives +50 health, plus e...
tooth gives a flat amount of health, not %
real fossil
Is there any use for urn of wealthy
extra gold always welcom in runs; just make sure u look around rooms for the urns
silent tree
max 100
small marsh
The extra Obols can be quite useful near the end of a run if you save them, so don't worry about not using it
You will always find a use for them by the end
I love how ||Patrocles|| can completely turn a run around
Even the most hopeless-looking runs
silent tree
what's the preferred food?
I liked the +4 levels one for a while, but I'm leaning towards the +3 rarity now
gritty roost
I like the rarity+
you can get poms later, and the higher rarities scale really well with poms
pale rock
I end up using +2 upgraded rarity on very specific builds, +4 poms if everything is good, and +3 boon rarity if the other two don’t apply.
sharp fossil
sweet nectar good
gritty roost
your pfp man @pale rock 
winter harbor
I get +2 rarity for <=4 boons, +4 lvl for when I have a ton of boons, and +3 boon rarity if I'm fishing for specific boons or if I'm underwhelmed by my current boons
sharp fossil
sweet nectar double good if you haven’t had any hermes boons yet
sweet nectar triple good if you’re hunting a duo you meet the prereqs for
pale rock
your pfp man <@!657638997941813258> <:zagluv:687002515069468715>
Yeah just random cute dog photo I found on the internet 
silent tree
it was obama
lethal socket
lol
narrow hemlock
don't spam please.
lethal socket
silent tree
then deleted because spam
lethal socket
😾
silent tree
yeah, kindly don't
gritty roost
silent tree
it's a little fun, but annoyance far outweighs it overall
pale rock
thought it's your dog
I could update to a picture of one of my dogs tbh, as they’re also cute
pale rock
It means you’re subconscious likes the words “Hazbin Hotel”
obsidian spear
It means a small part of your brain lives in a universe where "Hotel Transylvania" was really "Hotel Hades".
It's all good.
tired sundial
That does uh sound horrible
warped iron
🙂
fiery iron
Good luck lol
fiery iron
I mean, depends on what you're measuring it against ;P
warped iron
where in the game is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NBl9NXBT3g ?
I uh, haven't heard that
ever
prisma wind
You only hear it during the ||EM4 fight||
prisma wind
Well, you can buy it from the contractor now at least 😛
warped iron
👏
craggy barn
warped iron
👏
craggy barn
gaming™️
craggy barn
i'm trying to get sub 19 or less with all weapons but i really don't feel like using shield or spear
warped iron
first ||em4|| fight ever was 14:27
craggy barn
do you ever get a stupid op build and then be like "damn why didn't i turn on ||em4||"
i still have yet to take on that challenge
craggy barn
i basically have 3 goals left
||32 heat||
||extreme measures 4||
all house renovations
potent kestrel
Are collar tooth and acorn the only 3 keepsakes that people consider for final area?
teal drum
>||32 heat||
>||extreme measures 4||
>all house renovations
this right?
nvm ill just do the achievements guide myself using them
Hades is a really good damn game to play during online classes
manic bobcat
Are collar tooth and acorn the only 3 keepsakes that people consider for final a...
Well Spearpoint and ||Sigil|| are both used fairly often also.
Earrings is niche but I have also seen it
manic bobcat
Hades is a really good damn game to play during online classes
Study lol
grave iris
i beat the game for the first time just now
Gratz!
sly panther
thank u 🙂
im not a big gamer, so this was one of the only games ive ever invested a lot of time in
love it ❤️
sly panther
will do
still dont have a great feel for boon manipulation
kinda just bruteforce it
manic bobcat
The story continues for a while also. I hope you have fun
manic bobcat
kinda just bruteforce it
That's OK. If you need help, check out #h1-builds-and-combat, but nothing wrong with experimenting!
sly panther
thank you! 🙂
loud lintel
the boon list is pretty handy for boon manipulation
worth noting that every god has one duo boon with another god
and 1 legendary (except for poseidon/hermes)
loud lintel
free resources help you get stronger
which in turn help you beat the game
taps head
craggy barn
5head
tacit ember
stor panna
uneven canyon
sitting here in Asphodel ||listening to Eurydice and Orpheous sing In The Blood||
loud lintel
is it just me or hidden bow power shot is harder to hit than regular power shot
hexed shore
its slower yes
tacit ember
ur probably just not used to the timing
hexed shore
after playing hidden zag bow feels like it doesnt have charge time at all
tacit ember
du har stor panna
tacit ember
its meatball
craggy barn
i like meatballs :)
manic bobcat
Meatball is good yeah
loud lintel
hidden bow seems like a very good all around weapon
||special with zeus for room clear, and attack wtih artemis/aphro for single target||
low trail
Before i unlocked the hidden bow i wasnt a big fan of the bow but damn its really nice
low trail
I used to stuck on the spear for a while
And then the fists
But i dont have preffered weapon
Only aspects ig
dark path
I only have like half of the hidden aspects revealed so far, but I adore the ones I've unlocked
Hidden sword just feels... right
low trail
I need to finish leveling everything up
dark path
Feels hefty and satisfying
low trail
Hidden sword is amszing
dark path
I've played like 50 hours in the last 2 weeks, I need to finish maxing everything still
craggy barn
*chef's kiss*
applying ||shared suffering|| on multiple enemies and then they line up just right so you can hit them all in one shot 😩 👌
hexed shore
shared
barren depot
is there any cheats to unlock all the boons?
brazen lagoon
No
barren depot
hmm
loud lintel
i think DDs have me too careless against bosses (esp the final one)
im gonna start using SD since im gonna have to start using it for high heat runs anyway
may as well get used to it
hexed shore
play without mirror ez
teal drum
||Delta chamber or riccochet fire for railgun ?||
faint flint
what's with the mobile verification
craggy barn
||Delta chamber or riccochet fire for railgun ?||
if you have a problem with reloading, then go for delta chamber
brazen lagoon
I think delta chamber is just better overall tbh
maiden belfry
what's with the mobile verification
to lessen/prevent the number of bot users that join
or talk or are able to message users
fierce phoenix
Got heroic side hustle before first boss room, I ended up rich
loud lintel
can stubborn roots activate after a room has already been cleared?
craggy barn
only during encounters iirc
loud lintel
ok so stubborn roots doesnt work with SB while you have skelly's tooth still up :/
loud lintel
yeah i had SB along with skelly tooth
tried to cheese a full health heal by letting a rat kill me
didnt work since skelly DD hadnt been used yet
sour sky
Wait so skellys keepsake counts as an extra death defiance?
fresh crest
Yeah basically
runic parrot
ah. i have now realised that the game does not keep your autosave if you force close the app
odd plaza
random question, i just ended up having 5 segments in my call gauge which i've definitely not noticed before. What gives you this? it was artemis call
runic parrot
artemis call has 5 segments
ivory geode
oh real?
odd plaza
And i've just never noticed after 100 sessions? Lmao
runic parrot
i'm pretty sure
ivory geode
probably cuz of how powerful the greater call is
odd plaza
I'm not doubting you but big L on my part
runic parrot
i def remember it having more than the others
but i might be wrong
i do not take artemis call usually
fleet narwhal
ah. i have now realised that the game does not keep your autosave if you force c...
up to which point?
runic parrot
when you are fighting in a chamber.
fleet narwhal
in case hades crashes on my switch or something
so itll just revert you back to the house?
runic parrot
my laptop died on me while i was in a 4th region chamber and it was a particularly good run too
runic parrot
so itll just revert you back to the house?
yes, unfortunately
fleet narwhal
f
fresh crest
Probably to stop people just closing the game if they’re about to die and doing the chamber again, so it makes sense but it’s annoying if it properly crashes
Don’t think crashes are common though as far as I know
ivory geode
the placeholder name for my zagreus playlist until i can think of a proper name is "it's him, john hades"
rigid mauve
so itll just revert you back to the house?
There's back-ups in the save folder in case something like that happens.
fleet narwhal
in case hades crashes on my switch or something
rigid mauve
Ah, I saw someone mention their laptop later.
fleet narwhal
yeah unfortunately its probably irreversible on switch
runic parrot
Probably to stop people just closing the game if they’re about to die and doing ...
yep, that's definitely the case.
agile torrent
is it possible to ||romance two people at the same time||
finite cedar
is it possible to ||romance two people at the same time||
||only if one of them Dusa, at least i read that on wiki||
agile torrent
and thanks t posing jesus
formal prism
thanks!
finite cedar
and thanks t posing jesus
you are welcome, my friend
ivory geode
is it possible to ||romance two people at the same time||
||yea you can romance all of em they dont mind,||
finite cedar
i cant get Flaming wheels from Charons well, is there any requirements for it?
ivory geode
i assume you have to be in elysium
finite cedar
yea
ivory geode
its still rly funny to me that they like, KNEW how annoying flame wheels are so they added an item to get rid of them
finite cedar
yes, but i dunno, out of 60 runs never saw this in the well, even with rerolls
ivory geode
reddit says its random
finite cedar
well that's unlucky
like, some boons require specific perks from the mirror, but you can check it in Codex, but not for Well things
maiden belfry
flame wheels with ||damage control|| 
ivory geode
AAAA
finite cedar
flame wheels with ||damage control|| <a:monkaShake:394993116962226176>
oh, thank you
runic parrot
flame wheels with ||fo2||
maiden belfry
hexed shore
Flame wheels
maiden belfry
runic parrot
which one is that?
maiden belfry
which one is that?
||middle management, goron head/smasher miniboss, forced over time 2||
||so they get thier extra fight bonusus, an already annoying combo is made more annoying, AND THEYRE moving/attack hella fast||
formal prism
is it common knowledge that ||hades call removes poison and removes the shockwave skull thingies when activated||
sage oxide
i cant get Flaming wheels from Charons well, is there any requirements for it?
from what i've heard it's super uncommon, i only got it on my 50-somethingth run
formal prism
it isn't in the wiki, that's why i asked
sage oxide
i've barely used it so i wouldn't know if it is or isn't
hexed shore
I play fo2 only cause I'm stupid like that
ivory geode
misread that as fallout 2
sage oxide
from what i've heard ||sigil of the dead is kind of relegated to the same tier of keepsakes that shattered shackle is, so all of it's interactions are probably buried under the fact that it's like 60 runs deep before you can even get your hands on it, not to mention that, at least from what I can tell, it's pretty... not great||
formal prism
mfw i don't ||pick an olympian call until styx bc i pick sigil for the last boss 
||
like i just got used to it i guess lol forgot how olympian calls even felt
runic parrot
||>get huge catch in asphodel
end up with only 2 fishing spots by the end
there's not even a greece fishing spot||
why even live
craggy barn
with those chances you could have gotten 0 fish :)
gritty roost
ok I thought ||FO1|| wasn't so bad, then i reached Elysium..
long nebula
Genuine question: Does anyone actually use ||Demeter cast|| at all outside of joke runs and low heat?
For a god almost completely focused on ||cast boons|| her base ||cast|| is really underwhelming
And I've tried to make it work multiple times, without much success
Even on heroic rarity it's just... slow to kill anything
formal prism
i use it only if i want artemis boons too
bc it tracks enemies, but yeah the dps is still low
kindred fjord
Outside of buying it and never use it, no.
radiant flint
I beat the game on || heat 8 and 9 with Aegis, but Skelly hasn't given me his prizes yet|| is this another case of bad luck on voice lines or am I missing something
formal prism
have you examined the statue after the run
wait do you have them in the courtyard already
radiant flint
there is no statue is the apparent problem
formal prism
i see, maybe you need to advance skelly's affinity more
how many hearts do you have on him
radiant flint
maxed out
formal prism
ohh
fresh violet
I got the || first skelly statue the other day but I have been giving him a lot of nectar so maybe that is it? ||
formal prism
i'm out of ideas, i forgot how i triggered the appearance of the statues 
lemme check the wiki
fresh violet
👍🏼
craggy barn
i see, maybe you need to advance skelly's affinity more
you unlock the prizes after your first clear, then it's just a matter of clearing the respective ||heat|| levels
fresh violet
I beat the || 8 heat one and I was like how am I ever beating 16 || 😂😂
formal prism
oh yeah that's what i saw too
did he give you a prophecy/quest called ||"a useless trinket"||
radiant flint
not yet
formal prism
oh that's it
digital python
i've heard that the game has a 'true ending' and, spoiling me as little as possible could someone explain do u get that true ending after you beat ||hades|| or do u have to complete other stuff?
formal prism
oh no i'm wrong
that's the wrong prophecy
delete 
the wiki just says to ||beat hades with at least 8 heat||
do you have ||the useless trinket|| prophecy on your fated list
formal prism
that's probably the surefire way to do so, i really forgot how i unlocked them for me
radiant flint
Rip, 80 hours in and waiting on a charismatic skeleton to say the magic words
formal prism
just making sure again, the corner next to the exit is still empty for you? no veiled statues whatsoever?
long nebula
i've heard that the game has a 'true ending' and, *spoiling me as little as poss...
Crank up that heat
radiant flint
|| they are there I completely overlooked them and now feel dumb. my apologies for wasting time. I really thought they would be unveiled||
runic parrot
i've heard that the game has a 'true ending' and, *spoiling me as little as poss...
there are additional things you need to do before getting to the quote unquote true ending, yes
formal prism
|| they are there I completely overlooked them and now feel dumb. my apologies f...
it's all good, but to unlock ||the first statue you need to get close to it and press E or whatever command you have to examine it, and it will be unveiled||
same goes for ||16 and 32||
radiant flint
Yeah its working now, I got the || prophecy and acheivement||
formal prism
that's good to hear! congrats on your first prize!
radiant flint
thanks
fleet narwhal
||not looking forwards to doing the final statue reward ||
agile torrent
good riddance is such a short song and i wish it was longer 
acoustic plank
Genuine question: Does anyone actually use ||Demeter cast|| at all outside of jo...
You need to get lucky with duos and other boons or it doesn't work. But it can work. It's just very inconsistant.
runic agate
||not looking forwards to doing the final statue reward<:shadeembarassed:5204483...
Me neither
Also, does anyone know if chaos boons are allowed in a boonless run? Like do they count towards the special dialogue
agile torrent
i saw a speedrun of someone who didnt use chaos boons bc his viewers told him they werent allowed
and then yeah he got a special dialogue
fleet narwhal
you cant purge chaos boons so probably not
cobalt lava
https://twitter.com/alex_moukala/status/1353715238894526473?s=20 Yo this is nice, anybody see this?
~Hades Funk~
brazen lagoon
funky
true bridge
there should be a way to customise the floor of the house of hades, more than just carpets
cobalt lava
there should be a way to customise the floor of the house of hades, more than ju...
what you mean the whole tiling?
you can change some parts of the detailing near Zag's room
the colored square bits
fleet narwhal
i wish there was a way to clean up zags room
brazen lagoon
I want a full house renovation game
cobalt lava
not even once
brazen lagoon
Make it happen mr giant
cobalt lava
House Flipper: Super Giant edition
fleet narwhal
mr scooper gant
true bridge
we can change the apperance of the victory screen
let us change the floor
cobalt lava
unexpectedly makes you cry for its indepth and house story
acoustic plank
That would be so many art assets
loud lintel
didnt think i'd love a character as much as cerbie but then ||bouldy|| comes along
true bridge
there are already too many
fleet narwhal
hades is a solid 10/10 for its decor storyline
true bridge
That would be so many art assets
a couple more wouldn't be any difference
and some things with the ||garden||
fleet narwhal
||garden custom 😩😩||
true bridge
we can even decorate than's corner
nix's corner
||there should also be a throne for mom (the queen)||
stone basin
i know this sounds stupid but did anyone count the amount of titan blood you need to max a single weapon?
stone basin
wow
true bridge
||Resource Director badges should give a more noticeble cosmetic effect, like a change on how the health bar looks, not the corner||
inland spade
||Resource Director badges should give a more noticeble cosmetic effect, like a ...
Truuuuue
rich acorn
||Lmao just noticed that zagreus literally peaces out when after beating the final boss in the postgame||
unborn remnant
yeah thats pretty great
Does anyone else find the splash text that shows up at the start and end of a run really funny
for no good reason
unborn remnant
The game is just like
Y O U
I tried to look up the quotes and got spoiled more potentially
desert meadow
The whole OST is so good
craggy barn
||there should also be a throne for mom (the queen)||
||her throne absolutely should have been the cerberus throne||
graceful flicker
So smoldering air plus aphrodite call shuts down every move the final boss does
It'd charge up an attack and I'd just charm and cancel it
Every 4 seconds
I've never had a less demanding finale
azure tangle
Quick question, im trying to do the Charon prophecy but his borrow thing is never showing up for me in his mid level shops, do I need to do something to make it appear or is it just crappy rng?
graceful flicker
Pretty sure it's just RNG
jagged trellis
Is there a reason I keep going back to the beginning of a run when I log back in?
graceful flicker
^ pc or switch?
jagged trellis
Switch
graceful flicker
Also #h1-tech-support
fleet narwhal
does rerolling boons with fated persuasion retain the rarity from miniboss rooms/yarn of ariadne/refreshing nectar
desert meadow
From what I've seen, maybe?
green dune
yes, the answer is yes
also to note, Exclusive Access duo boon does not stack with yarn or nectar, to make things heroic, sadly
fleet narwhal
yeah yarn/nectar is useless with it
but epic boons are pretty awesome by themselves
green dune
sure, just don't expect to boost it to heroic
celest saddle
||is aspect of guan-yu good?||
green dune
yes, either focus on a special build or a spin build
also fully leveled... level one is rough
lofty sand
Friends have the Super Giant devs at all spoke to the idea or possibilities of DLC? I only ask here cause the #ask-supergiant channel is on read only. And idk if it was asked in there but all of this to say.
I think a new area and 2 new weapons would be amazing. I know that would require more dialogue and would probably end up changing the game (and possibly breaking it) entirely. But it would be SOOO cool.
narrow hemlock
there are no plans at current
digital python
every time i manage to beat thesus w/o dying once i just become increedibly smug
dapper oracle
same except I never beat theseus without dying so that statement has no predictive validity lol
it's like what my automata theory professor always said, "if my aunt was a bus, she'd have balloon tires"
digital python
lmao
loud lintel
im inclined to believe that the devs designed theseus as someone for the players to hate
stark onyx
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naive spear
im gonna do a boonless run soon with stygius but i havent gotten all the bounties on heat 1 yet and wanna use underworld customs to guarantee i have no boons left. do i still get the heat 1 bounties?
underworld customs gives 2 heat iirc
digital python
dude spoiler that
narrow hemlock
removed it. please spoiler tag anything about the final boss or onward @stark onyx
unborn remnant
Id like to see a new god added
if we were to get dlc
Apollo would be cool
Maybe attacks that inflict a blind effect?
decreases accuracy?
stark onyx
oh thank you sorry!!
graceful flicker
Gimme a DLC where I play as Hermes
Or a bone snake Sims roguelike where you become your best bone snake before zagreus kills you
warm lava
which hidden aspect is the best?
echo pulsar
||Arthur||
vast gulch
which hidden aspect is the best?
||Depends on what you get, Lucifer with the triple bomb is absolutely disgusting||
stark onyx
or the bow's
brisk trail
Ok but, new content for hades when?
vast gulch
Possibly never, we know nothing
vast gulch
SG doesn't do DLC or sequels very often
But Hades also brings a few firsts for them so we can't be sure
narrow hemlock
Bruh it won a crap ton of awards and sold a brick ton
It's well deserved but just because a game wins awards does not inherently mean further content comes from it. also supergiant spent the period from launch until the holidays doing bug fixes and such for the game, and then took a break
manic bobcat
Dude took the "if Hades is so good why isn't there Hades 2" joke unironically.
vast gulch
There is a Hades 2, his name is Zagreus
thorny island
I would be super excited about hades dlc/sequel but yeah sg has been working on this game for 2< years I get if they move on
flat halo
23 hours, spread over 2 saves
and still haven't beaten the game once
rip
Losing out on 4k darkness in early access is a lot tho
manic bobcat
I would be super excited about hades dlc/sequel but yeah sg has been working on ...
I hate the way you write >2 years =.=
manic bobcat
23 hours, spread over 2 saves
Why do you have 2 saves?
glass crystal
Just got an update to 1.0.37136 on the Switch and it feels like the game took a decent performance hit. I don't see that version in the patch notes here. Any one else have that issue?
kind skiff
Is rush kick worth getting?
green dune
yes, it's fun and makes landing your special easier, as well as granting a boost base damage
granite ether
depends on the other options you have
scenic stream
Do the boons' levels transfer over when they become of higher rarity thanks to Eury ?
Or do they reset back to 1
brazen lagoon
They transfer
scenic stream
Phew
Actually, do the gods' keepsakes reset after every level ? As in, will my first boon in each region be from Ares if I just keep the Vial ?
I always swap to something else so I never tried it
brazen lagoon
It only has one use
scenic stream
Aw
brazen lagoon
So if you equipped it in tartarus it won't work in asphodel
scenic stream
Mkay ty
granite ether
So if you equipped it in tartarus it won't work in asphodel
the rarity chance increase will still work though
brazen lagoon
yeah forgot to mention that'
thorny island
Lol I thought I was just bad with eris but i just fully upgraded it and this is increbidle
willow token
Is there any way to review my boons while paused?
I often quit the game when entering a room, then forget what my build is by the time I start it up again. It can be a bit rough trying to figure out what I'm working with while in the middle of a fight
willow token
It's bizarre that the boon info screen doesn't pause..
scenic stream
How do I get Orpheus to sing along his Lament
The melody's nice and all but I wanna hear his voice
silver hound
it just happens sometimes, unless you have some later item, (idk how to spoiler rn or i would just name it).
does anyone know if athena's legendary boon is supposed to break the ||butterfly||? ive cleared a ton of rooms not taking damage and it isn't increasing
willow token
butterfly and feather don't level up on the small styx temple rooms
just in case that's where you are
silver hound
that would do it. i got the legendary in charons shop there, so i thought it was a coincedence
narrow hemlock
only the final room of a tunnel counts for butterfly/plume
willow token
I think the blossom works for all the rooms there though, which is a bit nuts
narrow hemlock
it does but it has an encounter countdown; it doesnt give you an effect each room, like butterfly/plume do, which is why they work differently in styx
though spoiler that keepsake please 
flat halo
@manic bobcat you asked why 2 saves. 1 during early access and 1 after
silver hound
though spoiler that keepsake please <:thonk:726981205471395930>
how do you do that? is it (*)(/)
narrow hemlock
||text here||
flat halo
Is there any perk for finishing a run without boons or keepsakes or mirror
narrow hemlock
you get some flavour dialogue but otherwise no
thorny island
It's a pact choice, so you can get heat for it
For mirror at least
On the topic from earlier, do small styx rooms count to level up keepsakes?
granite ether
yes
thorny island
Oh pog
tepid plover
did they change the satyr sack to be able to spawn in the first tunnel now?
granite ether
that hasn't changed afaik
rugged mist
it might depend on the keepsake, i don't recall the ||lambent plume|| upgrading even though i just needed to push a button to clear the room at the time
and i've never found sack first try, but it not happening doesn't mean 0% chance
narrow hemlock
and i've never found sack first try, but it not happening doesn't mean 0% chance
it's actually not possible through normal play, the game is set up to where you must pass through a minimum number of rooms before the sack has a chance to spawn. The amount is greater than the encounters you go through in one tunnel
rugged mist
oooooh okay
granite ether
the minimum number of rooms is 7
narrow hemlock
i say "normal play" because i've heard of it supposedly happening as a bug but its definitely not intended
flat halo
I think it’s 2 rooms minimum
brisk trail
hades is a good game, it was worth every cent i spent on it and has given me enjoyable times, justed wanted to say that
rugged mist
agree
narrow hemlock
I think it’s 2 rooms minimum
its 7, as aggy said
brazen delta
How does one get permission to post images?
tepid plover
yeah sack first tunnel shouldnt happen, but my friend told me it happened last week, so i was making sure they didnt change it before i said anything, havent played in a while
so either they are a lying, or a fat bug
tepid plover
could still be a bug
isnt possible when intended, but hey i had to turn off approval process to get aphros favor, dont know if they fixed that yet
shy minnow
is it worth also getting hades on switch? kinda want cross saves to play portably
shy minnow
yes very much so
tepid plover
do you want to play on the switch?
scenic stream
yeah sack first tunnel shouldnt happen, but my friend told me it happened last w...
THANK YOU
tepid plover
then yes is worth
shy minnow
thats what im trying to figure out
scenic stream
I KNEW I wasn't going insane
shy minnow
Like idk how good controller will be rather than keyboard
scenic stream
So many people are saying they had it first try at one point
I knew it wasn't just me
scenic stream
Like idk how good controller will be rather than keyboard
Controller's amazing for hades
There's a reason why it's recommended in the menu 
It feels so natural
tepid plover
Like idk how good controller will be rather than keyboard
plug a controller on your pc and play a run
shy minnow
yeah ig
unborn remnant
switch pro controllers pretty great
tepid plover
There's a reason why it's recommended in the menu <:squirtdevious:47212405456922...
i cannot play hades with a controller to save my life
i do have it on switch
to support sgg
tepid plover
So many people are saying they had it first try at one point
I knew it wasn't ju...
getting sack in 1st tunnel is a bug
thats totes not intended
and shouldnt be happening
rugged mist
There's a reason why it's recommended in the menu <:squirtdevious:47212405456922...
usually i was so eager to play that i didn't notice this
and then i swapped to an arcade stick for shiggles since there's enough buttons, and cleared it first try
i don't use it for this game anymore, but i've been sold on controllers for it ever since
unborn remnant
how on earth do you play hades with an arcade stick
rugged mist
i mean, just like m+k your movement is locked to 8 directions
unborn remnant
yeah fair
tepid plover
i mean, just like m+k your movement is locked to 8 directions
how many more directions do you need?
unborn remnant
Its just funny to think of
tepid plover
only thing controller can do that mnk cant is walk
rugged mist
i mean, there's not enough buttons once if you're using ||gun|| and ||a companion|| at the same time
controller can see zagreus from every possible angle
rugged mist
oh wait no nevermind
flat halo
Should I save for 3 death defiance or stubborn defiance
rugged mist
if you use m+k he interpolates between the directions
tepid plover
what
rugged mist
i meant you can spin a stick and see all of zagreus' model as opposed to only seeing it in the 8 directions you can move him on m+k
tepid plover
but like, how is 8 directions not enough?
rugged mist
but that's not true since the game fills in that animation for you
rugged mist
i'm not saying that being locked to 8 directions is an inherent disadvantage, and the spin thing i was talking about in bad faith
tepid plover
when walking is needed, then controller will be better, for now is just enjoyment
fleet narwhal
can you rebind movement to mouse
tepid plover
Uhm
quaint hatch
Controller for movement
Kbm for aiming
prisma wind
There are people who use combination mouse/gamepad
quaint hatch
Join the seldom master race of people who use both
tepid plover
Bruh, I just dont understand how is the movement on controller better
Like how many more directions do you need
fleet narwhal
all of them so you can do a funky dance for fan shade
quaint hatch
360 directions for every possible degree would be nice
Yk for that optimal hestia shot
iron grove
You can have parts of a degree
fleet narwhal
if you dont funky dance for fan shade at least once idk what youre doing with your life
tepid plover
Yk for that optimal hestia shot
You know what else do you need for that optimal hestia shot?
quaint hatch
I'm still waiting for bouldy to be able to give you core boons
tepid plover
"Kbm for aiming" - RollingStone 2021
quaint hatch
Yk what I mean
tepid plover
quaint hatch
Ya really want me to leave again huh?
tepid plover
Nuuu
fleet narwhal
kbm for things like trippy shot/rail nukes
tepid plover
You know we were made for this
fleet narwhal
good for speedrunners
tepid plover
Don't most speedrunners use controller lmfao
quaint hatch
Not good enough speedruners then
fleet narwhal
idk i think its pretty split
fleet narwhal
a little under 6
tepid plover
Did they nerf eris?
tepid plover
Yeah reduces timer does practically nothing
Just slap yourself yourself it again
Which you can do while reloading
quaint hatch
Normally you bomb all the time either way if you get rocket
tepid plover
Also tru
quaint hatch
Which the game rarely ever wants to give me with eris
tepid plover
yes we agreee on smth? thats impossible
quaint hatch
Because aiming lobs is so fun with controller
quaint hatch
yes we agreee on smth? thats impossible
Honeymoon phase
tepid plover
orpheus play careless whisper pls
fleet narwhal
rocket bomb is also aimed with movement
quaint hatch
I was referring to regular bomb
fleet narwhal
ah
quaint hatch
Still no hammer rerolls 2021
fleet narwhal
lobbing bombs with movement keys always misaims the bomb
quaint hatch
Yeah as I said
Aiming lobs on controller is prolly my least fav thing
supple flame
yall .. does anyone know how to unlock aspect of guan yu why does everythin on google contradict each other 😭 some say put5 titan blood in EACH weapon and some say just 1 in each? some say 5 into ONE weapon
quaint hatch
There's a pinned comment in #h1-story-discussion
supple flame
thank u!'
quaint hatch
Best o luck on the hades dialogue slot machine
loud canopy
uuuugh I keep getting SO CLOSE to beating Theseus and Asterius
My eyes are not good enough to pick out what they're doing in time to react amid all the effects lmao
ah well, I'll get there eventually like I did the Furies and Hydra, after much cursing and swearing and learning patterns and remembering the Bull Rush exists
tepid plover
yep, no ||em3|| is way harder than with it
I turned off ||em3|| to claim zero bounties and got absolutely demolished lmfao
flat halo
Why is it harder
runic agate
Em3 can be hard and it also can be easy