h1-discussion

[pearl saddle]

||heat|| needs to be spoilered

[strong ridge]

sorry spammy log in just has to flex on us

[craggy barn]

9 minutes per section is nice but most players don't even break past that threshold on their first clear

[pearl saddle]

Ive beaten him once

[crude musk]

my first escape was fifty-six minutes i think

[strong ridge]

holy

[craggy barn]

see?

[pearl saddle]

first escape was 35 or something

[meager steppe]

That seems like a huge amount of time to me.

[severe smelt]

||TD ||was one of the first ones I've used but then again I was looking at speed fairly early

I think my first was around 30

[pearl saddle]

Yeah my first was 34:12:00

[crude musk]

i mostly beat theseus via doom spam and A Lot of running away

[strong ridge]

my first was 36 w the ||rail unlimited magazine|| ...my a button hurt

[meager steppe]

I’ve only had ||TD|| tick down in me once.

[crude musk]

i also loiter in shop screens and stuff a lot so

[pearl saddle]

so should I go with it on or off?

[severe smelt]

You can hold A to shoot forever 🙂

[pearl saddle]

on I get a lot more blood but off I get more darkness

I need darkness so I can get blood so Im gonna turn it on

[severe smelt]

I think try TD it's really not that bad once you think about time

[strong ridge]

in the long run it do not really matter

[severe smelt]

and just open the menu if you are deciding between boons or shops

[strong ridge]

i wish the timer would just stop after u clear a room ||bc you can always just hit pause anyway||

[severe smelt]

Yeah but that optimization of being near the room exit when you finish clearing the room 👆

[meager steppe]

Dash dash dash.

Don’t walk. Run!

[strong ridge]

i have not ever cared even once about maximizing my time and never even get close to td counting down on me

[severe smelt]

I mean what's your average IGT

because that's what it comes down to

lol

[pearl saddle]

Im only scared of elysium for the timer

[strong ridge]

i don’t know what that question means
run time?

[severe smelt]

in game time, the time the game gives you when you clear it

on the victory screen

because TD works with the same rules iirc

[meager steppe]

Most successful escapes I’ve had have been sub 40 minutes.

If it takes longer then it means my damage is lacking.

[severe smelt]

||so TD3 is 5x4, so you need an IGT < 20m if I'm reading it right||

Which means if your IGT is closer to, say, 30m, or 40, you may have issues

[meager steppe]

Msounds right.

[strong ridge]

if i’m just doing a ez 12 heat run & not really working for something just using what i like 22-26

if it’s doing new stuff/trying out things 30+

[meager steppe]

But we’re talking about sub 5 ||heat|| levels too at this point.

[severe smelt]

yeah why i mentioned 30 and 40

[meager steppe]

At least for @pearl saddle

And myself.

[severe smelt]

because on lower TD that is fine(er)

[pearl saddle]

when is the best ttime to use ||meg||

[meager steppe]

I’m only at 2

[severe smelt]

mini-bosses, bosses 😛

[pearl saddle]

Well yeah duh but which boss

[meager steppe]

I don’t even have her yet. Went for snakehead instead.

[severe smelt]

there aren't that many and you have about as many ||meg ||charges as bosses so uhh

[strong ridge]

i use meg to avenge my sd

[pearl saddle]

Nope, i dont have that many charges yet

[crude musk]

i tend to use meg, and mostly i use her forrr theseus, power couple, ||dad||

[severe smelt]

Then it kinda doesn't really matter, damage is damage, like what are you optimizing for?

[pearl saddle]

hmmm

I have most trouble with theseus and ||hades||

[meager steppe]

You need more ambrosia which you primarily get from bounties which means more ||heat||

[severe smelt]

||Theseus ||would probably be my pick yes but it's not that hard to get ||ambrosia|| so why not just get it

[pearl saddle]

where should I get ambrosia

[crude musk]

i’ve found diamonds hardest to get hold of in necessary quantities

[severe smelt]

kill ||theseus ||on rising ||heat||

[strong ridge]

u get a lot of ambrosia from prophecies

like a lot

[severe smelt]

you can also spend all your life trading stones for keys for nectar for <whatever you need>, but I'd rather run the game

yeah i think that's where I got my initial bulk from 🙂

[pearl saddle]

Yeah ive exhausted that with my best weapon and Im not ready to kill him with a not good weapon

[severe smelt]

git gud

runs

[meager steppe]

I mean.... he’s not wrong....

A “good” weapon is relative.

[severe smelt]

I have played the game with 0 ||meg ||for ages so 🤣

Some weapons are... really not great with low blood

but some are good with almost no blood

[pearl saddle]

what are life trading stones

[severe smelt]

you can get fairly far with the basic aspects tbh

[crude musk]

i mean zag aspect is good enough so

[severe smelt]

but can also just shoot for eris-nemesis-achiless early, as those are both great and cheaper than say the hiddens

[meager steppe]

I’m pretty sure my aspects that were used in escape in order were talos, Hera, Achilles, Demeter

[strong ridge]

coughs in poseidon

[severe smelt]

I got my first clear in freaking chaos shield

"it looks cool" power

[meager steppe]

I’ve gotten real close but haven’t gotten a shield clear yet. I hate the charge mechanic for some reason.

[hearty bramble]

zeus aspect is sexy

[severe smelt]

I should do a ||Chaos ||worship run. ||Shield, egg||, etc. 😄

[pearl saddle]

which fury is the hardest to beat for you guys

[severe smelt]

I do not understand how to use Zeus at allllllllllll

[crude musk]

i hate the zeus shield. just could not get on w it

[severe smelt]

oh god uhh

[crude musk]

alecto is the worst

[severe smelt]

the one with the spinny wheels

[strong ridge]

the only buttons that exist on the shield is the special and the cast button idk where the x button go

[severe smelt]

alecto

yes

[pearl saddle]

alecto

wow alecto really is the worst

[crude musk]

tisiphone is my fave to fight bc the arena getting smaller suits my play style rly well

[hearty bramble]

theres a hammer upgrade that turns the bull rush into a charged shot (bow and arrow type shot), its great and i always try to get it

[severe smelt]

but you lose the block i assume?

[hearty bramble]

nope u still have it!

[strong ridge]

it becomes shooting block

[meager steppe]

I had a nasty amount of Zeus on my special with the chaos shield and get down to the last 10% on the big baddie. I know I’d benefit from actually using the shield as a shield, but I don’t like to stand still that long.

[severe smelt]

oh neat

[hearty bramble]

i love the shield for final boss....dont have to dodge its crazy attacks anymore

[brisk trail]

how can i get last heart of artenis

Xd

[meager steppe]

Play more. Standard answer for the game.

[warm lava]

||did anyone reunite achilles and patroclus?||

[hearty bramble]

ye :)

[strong ridge]

gotta

[meager steppe]

Spoilers?

Or technically no?

[strong ridge]

i mean it’s in the prophecies

so it’s not more spoiler than that

[severe smelt]

story go to #h1-story-discussion

[meager steppe]

I honestly am still struggling with the spoiler tags.

[severe smelt]

I kinda want a general discussion all the spoilers channel

[meager steppe]

I try to just not use names and use vague descriptions instead to avoid having to add the tags.

[warm lava]

my most sincere apology

[pearl saddle]

Like using redacted?

[severe smelt]

😄

Hypnos would be proud

[meager steppe]

Yup

[pearl saddle]

What does he think when redacted straight up walks out of the styx

[meager steppe]

It’s totally fine. There should probably be a spoiler free discussion and a spoiler discussion channel. The. You know which one you’re in for.

[crude musk]

i mean it’s called ‘story and spoilers’

also the channel description tells you if you gotta spoiler tag stuff

[severe smelt]

Yeah but there's no "general channel with spoilers OK"

[meager steppe]

But general hades discussion would be off topic in story and spoilers.

[crude musk]

i think rule of thumb is anything from the end of styx onwards need tagging

[manic bobcat]

People in #h1-story-discussion discuss general stuff all the time tbh

[meager steppe]

My biggest hurdle is that people added themselves on an app in a channel to discuss a game they are playing. It’s like googling an upcoming movie and being surprised when you see info about the movie.

[severe smelt]

EHH, I think it's good to hide spoilers for newbies but like

[meager steppe]

That’s just me.

[bright nymph]

Why am I able to clear so easily with Bow/Fists/Shield but I struggle so hard with Sword/Spear/Railgun

[severe smelt]

idk why hades-for-new-players can't just be that

new players is gonna be a much smaller group than people who have seen ||dad||

[warm lava]

its other way around for me

[meager steppe]

Well I’m sincerely sorry if I ruin someone’s experience.

[severe smelt]

Sword is my worst, Bow is... awkward.

[crude musk]

maybe a role that lets you see spoilers channels that you have to use the bot for

bc otherwise it’s easy to accidentally see spoilers

[bright nymph]

Chiron Bow is super fun to me

It's so frustrating to go from weapons you're good at to ones you suck at and feel so weak lmao

[meager steppe]

I think bow is weird because it’s not just sit and shoot. You gotta use a sequence instead of mashing one button.

[manic bobcat]

Learn powershot timing with dash strike

[meager steppe]

Yeah. You gotta have that.

[manic bobcat]

Most important thing along with knowing where to position

You have 2 dashes. Use them.

[thorny island]

Lol best bow moves are getting in incredibly close and hitting your whole volley

[meager steppe]

I tend to over steer with my dash strike on the bow and waste a lot of arrows.

[thorny island]

100+ damage from the get goo

More with boons

[manic bobcat]

Are you talking special?

[thorny island]

And also applies effects like chill/hangover super quick

[severe smelt]

Powershot is just not strong enough on bow as far as I can see.

[thorny island]

Yup

[severe smelt]

Hence the awkward.

[manic bobcat]

I'm not sure if that's the optimal way to play most bows (except Chiron)

[meager steppe]

Flurry shot is kind of my preferred hammer for it honestly.

[severe smelt]

Note: Zag or Chiron bow is what I am talking about here, not, say, Hera.

[bright nymph]

Spear is so strange for me because everything feels incredibly weak

[severe smelt]

Achilles really makes spear shine

[thorny island]

I use a mix of regular/close up volley

[manic bobcat]

Powershotting is crucial for Zag Bow though

You should really give it a try

[severe smelt]

is it? it seems good builds go for hammers that delete the powershot

[thorny island]

Oh of course

[severe smelt]

any time I go powershot I don't seem to do enough damage

[manic bobcat]

Hunter Dash Deadly Strike Triple Shot Perfect Shot

That's the dream build

[severe smelt]

what's the IGT from that

[thorny island]

I power shot to get on an effect, then dash in and volley

[meager steppe]

Yeah, you can get it there, but it takes a bit. Chiron just needs hangover on special.

[thorny island]

Aphro on attack, dionysus on special, duo boon so it stack more + sweet surrender

[severe smelt]

I ran very much that build but it still feels so weak compared to achilles or eris

[meager steppe]

Hera just needs trippy flare

[manic bobcat]

If I try really hard I can get sub 10, normally I get 15-20 mins on 32 heat with that setup easy.

[severe smelt]

Yeah I get 15 already

[thorny island]

Damn I have to try that

[severe smelt]

but idk how to get a good time with bow at all

[thorny island]

My fastest run is sub 20 on like 6 heat?

[meager steppe]

The standard answer

Play more

[strong ridge]

@manic bobcat ||hell mode||?

[manic bobcat]

Normal mode

[severe smelt]

Playing more doesn't make the bow do more damage tho. 😄

And especially in like elysium it just really tapers offf

[meager steppe]

If you’re better with it then it certainly does.

Maybe spend some time with smelly

[thorny island]

If you have the artemis dash boon and dash attack it might boost it

[severe smelt]

What i mean is, there's a hard cap on how much it takes time to kill things at a certain damage amount

so if you have things get one shot with eris

and 2-shot with powershot

there's not much you can do

[manic bobcat]

Flurry is good but you need twinsies

[meager steppe]

I think you gotta be good with onsies before you go twosies

[thorny island]

Exagryph Lite

[manic bobcat]

But the numbers of those things aren't that high. And don't compare anything dps vs Eris though.

[meager steppe]

I felt twin shot was clunky my first time because it throws off the timing quite a bit.

[crude musk]

i love twin shot

[thorny island]

I did not like Eris until I realized I should be using special constantly

[severe smelt]

well so there's a fast run with zag bow on speedrun

but it removes powershot

that's what i mean

[manic bobcat]

It's the same timing wise, just that the range is shorter, which makes the bar increases slower that gives the impression that the charge time is longer

[severe smelt]

any time i see someone with a fast zag bot it seems they take hammers that delete powershot so i figured that's just be the meta

[manic bobcat]

I mean are we talking speedrun? Because speedrun is different from nornal play or high heat.

[severe smelt]

yes

when i say "bow is awkward" I mean "I can't figure out how to go fast with this" 😄

[thorny island]

Short answer? Use hidden aspect

Dmg output is BUSTED

[severe smelt]

yes but i mean zag bow, there are runs per aspect 🙂

I want to learn all aspects eventually

[thorny island]

True

[strong ridge]

zag bow is just a skill check

[manic bobcat]

Honestly I think looking at WR and translate that to even speedrunning itself can be problematic

[meager steppe]

Then... play more.

[manic bobcat]

Just because WR uses something doesn't mean it's optimal sometimes

[severe smelt]

I think you're not wrong but there aren't really that many guides aroudn and well

I'm bad at building

lol

[manic bobcat]

Not saying Twin Flurries isn't good. But it's just that powershotting on Zag isn't as well explored for speedrunning.

[severe smelt]

I want to do powershot because it's so fun 😦

[copper canopy]

Does anyone know what the name of the song that plays when you open Infernal Troves is?

[loud lintel]

does athena dash rarity or level affect any aspect of it apart from damage? (does increased level/rarity give additional iframes or anything like that)

[copper canopy]

Nope, just damage.

[hearty bramble]

is it Wretched Shades, 1:40 in?

i tihnk so but not sure

[copper canopy]

I’ll check, thanks for helping.

[hearty bramble]

np i happen to be listening to the soundtrack rn haha

[prisma wind]

Pretty sure that's it, yes

[copper canopy]

Yep that’s it time stamp and everything. Thanks.

[sour sky]

People use zag aspects?

[brazen dawn]

hades

[hearty bramble]

||i leveled the zag aspect sword up all the way for skelly's request||

[hearty bramble]

used it yesterday and it was pretty fun!! i liked slashing like crazy thru everything

[crude musk]

i like the zag rail for the ammo

[sour sky]

The malphon one is dumb

It’s just extra dodge chance

[brazen dawn]

stack it with hermes' boon and lambent plume and you are invincible

[pearl saddle]

Is there a Daedalus keepsake?

[unborn remnant]

no

[pearl saddle]

Is there a way to make sure you find a daedalus hammer

[crude musk]

you’ll get two on every run

[crude garden]

trust me, if you try to avoid them all together they will find you (not that it is impossible to fully avoid taking them). You get one offered early on, either in zone 1 or 2. Though you are only able to get your second hammer after reaching zone 3.

[pearl saddle]

What do you get for ||reuniting eurydice and orpheus||

[unkempt sleet]

Satisfaction. Listening to duo songs.
Also I think the prophecy gives you some diamonds.

[topaz yew]

So

Sturdy that effect

it pretty much isbeing unstoppable right?

[unkempt sleet]

You can still be stunned by the three things that stun you, but otherwise you cannot be interrupted

You still take most of the damage tho

[topaz yew]

okay just making sure

[pearl saddle]

What do you get if you give Charon ambrosia

[topaz yew]

REmeber people

Twin fist is the best

[wise sparrow]

what about bow

[wise sparrow]

his keepsake!

and lifelong friendship!

[dapper oracle]

Charon is friend :)

CHARON: hhhhhhghhhhhnnnnnhhhhh...
ZAGREUS: Too true!

See also: Sisyphus' friend ||Bouldy||

[tepid pulsar]

Man, I think I am done with hades

I have almost everything

Can we get a PS4 ver with platinum trophies soon, please?

[trail moon]

What weapons should I take for the "forced Overtime" measures ? It's too fast I always lost

[strong ridge]

do you mean the timer

[topaz yew]

@dapper oracle Bouldy isnt really a spoiler

[trail moon]

@strong ridge hum no the measures that do ennemies more fast

[strong ridge]

try cast build

make sure when you go to hit them you can stun/knockback the enemy to break it out of its animation

[topaz yew]

what is ||MM again||

[strong ridge]

||middle management||

[trail moon]

I see... so the weapons is not so important unless if he can stun

[strong ridge]

all weapons can stun

[trail moon]

Yeah ok thanks

[topaz yew]

GOD

Support fire is such a fun boon

[pearl saddle]

How do I get ||companion battie|| to hit ||hades||

[hearty bramble]

i gave up on it and just use mort instead lol

[desert meadow]

Support Fire is amazing, one of my favorites

[topaz yew]

Suppport fire + Sea Storm

just a power house combo

Okay so real crap

I need help

||How do i get Orpheus to meet with his lover cause this has been killing me||

[pearl saddle]

Hey am I able to just repeat the game on the same difficulty 10 times and get all the story?

[topaz yew]

well

actually

I cant answer that

because i dont know

[severe smelt]

||Ish, but there are some things that, say, only open with an EM.||

[narrow hemlock]

none of the main narrative is locked behind difficulty

[severe smelt]

Heck, the ||EM ||thing is a story in itself lol

Creating bonds with characters requires nectar and ambrosia so that sort of drives you to increase ||heat ||over time.

But due to the trailer t e c h n i c a l l y you could just grind.

[desert meadow]

I've been grinding, it works fairly well

[severe smelt]

trader*

[desert meadow]

Helpful if you want to keep learning weapons and trying builds without getting serious

[severe smelt]

There's also the styx reward

I feel like ||heat ||is not so scary to be all that serious but eh. 🙂

[topaz yew]

||Heat is very dependent on you as a player I go for certain heats cause to me thats a real challenge and makes it worth the win each time||

[native hinge]

[severe smelt]

Sure, but if we're talking mats you can get a lot of them early without making the game all that difficult

[topaz yew]

true

just eh

everyone has their way

[severe smelt]

also why is this discord full of people with "simp" in the name 😂

[topaz yew]

oh

So

Like

[pearl saddle]

Do you know what simping is?

[topaz yew]

Nyx

[severe smelt]

Unfortunately

[topaz yew]

Is my crush

[severe smelt]

I thought it's more of a negative term, tho

[pearl saddle]

Its a negative term for the person who is simping

its a joke

[topaz yew]

||MM is hard jesus||

[digital python]

you ever have a run where you're like how am i physically doing so much damage

[desert meadow]

Yep

[digital python]

apparently my boons buffed my special more than i realized lol

[desert meadow]

Feels good

[digital python]

i also got that one boon from ||demeter ||where it turns ur cast into like a crystal beam and ngl that one is broken when it comes to boss battles

[topaz yew]

Make sure to || that

[digital python]

what part of that is a spoiler

[desert meadow]

Yeah, that one is great

[digital python]

i thought it was only the final boss?

[desert meadow]

Who it's from

[topaz yew]

does demeter count?

you only see her after you beat ||Hades||

[digital python]

no u dont

i haven't beaten him

[desert meadow]

I'd say it counts just to be safe

It's just getting there

[digital python]

yea

[desert meadow]

But still

[topaz yew]

its debatable

oh well

anyways

Demeter is my favorite

when you get her chill explode

its so good

[digital python]

in normal encounters it's iffy cuz when ur enemies move around a bunch it's not super helpful

[desert meadow]

Still useful but yeah

[digital python]

but for the hydra? it's amazing

[desert meadow]

It's good on enemies that stand still and shoot you

[topaz yew]

i used it for ||Hades|| with the stacking Doom amplifier and my special with Hangover

GOD

OH yeahj

Killing freeze with demeter is a god send

[sullen holly]

I remember back when the game was not fully released and I assumed the game has cloud save so I installed it again so I can play though it again but my save wasn't there so i cried lol

[topaz yew]

OOF i feel pain

[sullen holly]

I completed it again anyway

[topaz yew]

i cant imagine having to restart all my progress

[sullen holly]

I completed it like 3 times already lol

[digital python]

bruuuhhhh that crstal cast came in clutch cuz i realized when fighting the butterfly miniboss I can just dropp a bunch of casts & get the little... floating things idk what theyre called so the other enemies dont spawn & i dont even have to like. attacj the butterfly

question: does upgrading boons to the next rarity change the boon or just makes them more potent?

[topaz yew]

Potency

[chilly dock]

Does anyone have an aspect tier list

[topaz yew]

https://hades.gamepedia.com/Hades_Wiki

[narrow hemlock]

tiers is subjective. what someone considers the worst weapon could be someone else's best.

[chilly dock]

Ok

[narrow hemlock]

the weapons are all fairly well balanced so any tiers you get from anyone is going to be fairly personal. if you have all aspects unlocked, its easier to just get a feel for what your own gameplay preference is

[topaz yew]

#AspectOfDemeter

[narrow hemlock]

like... a lot of people love sword 4th but i'm inherently adverse to slower movesets in general so i dont favour it a whole lot :)

[topaz yew]

^]

agreed im into the fast paced combos and going all in

[pearl saddle]

Good builds for ||aspect of rama?||

[manic bobcat]

4th aspects are considered spoiler here, but Deadly Strike + Twin/Triple Shot works

Get Heartbreak Flourish on Special and look for Heartrend also

[narrow rampart]

A silly one is demeter special with killing freeze

Because the bouncing shots both stack a lot and spread around

Honestly i really like demeter

Because it's defensive and offensive

[topaz yew]

AHHHH THIS IS SO GOOD

I finally beat it for the 10th time

[manic bobcat]

Yeah that works, too. Arctic Blast Fist is also solid albeit a bit niche

[narrow rampart]

I tried drunken fist

But it feels so week

[topaz yew]

YEAH

[narrow rampart]

Weak

[topaz yew]

awww

you need aphrodite

[manic bobcat]

Yeah Drunken Strike is underpowered imo

[digital python]

that's the closest i've EVEr gotten to beating ||hades|| before jfc i didn't consider that i might actually beat the game in less than sveral months O.O

[topaz yew]

@digital python you got this :)

[narrow rampart]

It just feels like I'm trying to smother them to death with 2 pillows strapped to my hands

[manic bobcat]

On theory it makes sense but in practice it's kinda bad

[topaz yew]

the first time is so hard

but after you learn his patterns it becomes easier

however even i still lose

sometimes

[willow token]

Reminds me of Hand of the King fight in Dead Cells

[narrow rampart]

Honestly the most important part is his spin attack timing

You can't dodge too soon

[digital python]

i knooow im so bad at dodging that

[topaz yew]

If you really want to have an easier time get athena's F

super easy

[narrow rampart]

F?

[digital python]

i can only dodge it like half the time despite i think it's his most telegraphed attack

[topaz yew]

excuse me

i always forget the names

but ehr special

[narrow rampart]

It is

[topaz yew]

her

[narrow rampart]

The problem is it's telegraphed too much

So you dodge and then get hit after

[willow token]

The problem I've always had with the spin is that its location and size doesn't match that stupid white circle

[digital python]

?

[narrow rampart]

You have to doge alower

[willow token]

It's like.. okay, I'm well outside the circle... then BAM

[narrow rampart]

Slower

[digital python]

ahh makes sense

[topaz yew]

on his 2nd revival he has a double then a single

[digital python]

omfg orpheus is singing again 🥺

[narrow rampart]

Unless you have 4 dashes, then you can get away easily

[topaz yew]

if you honestly wanna beat ||Hades|| get Sea storm

best duo

[digital python]

i dont remember any of the boons by name which one is that lmao

[topaz yew]

So

Zues

and

[narrow rampart]

Duo

[topaz yew]

Poseidon

go fro those two

easy win

[narrow rampart]

Oh right

[topaz yew]

oh

OH

dont fight him unless you have athenas deflect

[narrow rampart]

His paddle has no warning

[topaz yew]

thats my tip

[narrow rampart]

Honestly i don't really get hit by the waves much

[digital python]

hades: the only game where i am eager to die & go back to the start so i can progress the dating sim visual novel

[narrow rampart]

Just his starwars oar

Which does 50 damage

[topaz yew]

yeah ive beaten him once

[narrow rampart]

I fought him twice

[topaz yew]

if anything the best way to technically beat him

[narrow rampart]

With 3 DD

[topaz yew]

is out range him

[narrow rampart]

Didn't even get half his hp

[topaz yew]

ironically ||Charon loves a good fight||

[narrow rampart]

His oar has more range then my gun

Question

If you have the option to fight him then skip

Does it appear later?

[topaz yew]

no

[narrow rampart]

Or is it just randomly per everyone shop

[topaz yew]

Ive done math with someone

The chances of you getting an actual fight with him is 7.5%

[narrow rampart]

Huh

That's quite rare

[topaz yew]

yeah it was weird

I forgot the math he did but it was like 52% for him

[narrow rampart]

Also hoarding slash sucks

It looks amazing on paper

[topaz yew]

and that made no sense so if you break it down by actual encounter chance including mid rooms it went down to 7.5%

[narrow rampart]

But it sucks in practice

[topaz yew]

yeah

its rip

[narrow rampart]

I had 3k obols

And did less damage then if i had a normal on attack hammer

And apparently it doesn't even trigger on dash attack???

It's such a trap

[topaz yew]

pfft

thats horrible

[narrow rampart]

Cursed slash always

Hoarding never

Oppinions on world spliter?

Someone said it suck, but idk

[severe smelt]

oh god seriously?

that completely breaks sword blah

[narrow rampart]

I'm not 100% sure

Someone told me that

But i wouldn't be surprised

[severe smelt]

It's odd because pretty much everything seems to trigger on dash attack.

[narrow rampart]

Ikr

Actually

[severe smelt]

But I could see a hammer effect being forgotten. 🤔

[narrow rampart]

Cursed slash doesn't either i think?

[sharp fossil]

hammers that specific “attack” generally don’t effect dash attacks

[waxen juniper]

Why wouldn't it?

[sharp fossil]

as opposed to literally everything else in the game, where if something says attack it means both

[sharp fossil]

idk why lol

balance reasons presumably

[waxen juniper]

🤔

[raw harbor]

Hey guys,

[brisk trail]

it's def for balance reasons

[rigid sand]

u guys helped me alot thanks

[topaz yew]

~Farewelll

[narrow rampart]

Well it should say so then

Increases attack while you are standing still

Or something

[topaz yew]

Vengful mood seems broken with the right boons

[narrow rampart]

Oh most definitely

Hard to get all of them tho

[junior path]

I dont mean to derail any conversation but i have an old computer and i got hades to work!! Woo! Finally!

[narrow rampart]

Honestly I think you can beat hades with vengeful nood, standing in a corner with an aegis

And just standing there, menacingly

[sharp fossil]

you don’t even need aegis actually

it’s been done afk

[topaz yew]

yeah you need like

400+ health though

[narrow rampart]

Well yes, but with aegis you don't even need to take damage

[sharp fossil]

true

[brazen lagoon]

haelians' done that

insane

[waxen juniper]

So, the revenge boons act around you with vengeful mood. So you still need to be relatively close to your enemies.

[winter harbor]

you probably need tons of dodge too

[dull niche]

full revenge builds have been done, i think someone actually beat ||em4 hades|| with just revenge boons

[waxen juniper]

Yeah, Haelian has done that a few times.

[jagged trellis]

when you buy a item that works for a limited amount of chambers does it start automatically?

[waxen juniper]

It starts in the next chamber

Otherwise it uses up a room for existing... which is super lame

[jagged trellis]

You can select them but I don’t know if that’s turning them off or on?

[waxen juniper]

We are talking about well of charon items right?

[jagged trellis]

Yes

[waxen juniper]

Okay. So you get them once you actually purchase it from the well. Then the room count will start ticking down once you go in the next room.

Is that clear? Or is there still a bit of misunderstanding that can be cleared up?

[jagged trellis]

So you don’t have to activate them from the menu with your boons?

[waxen juniper]

No, not at all. The same goes for the boons. They are all passive effects that you have.

[jagged trellis]

Oh

[waxen juniper]

The button that lets you see your boons is purely so you know what you have.

[jagged trellis]

When you press A on them (switch) there’s a little symbol that appears on it I guess it deactivates them

[waxen juniper]

It does not deactivate them at all.
You can pin 5 boons. These boons will appear on the end screen of the game. It is basically to showcase what made your run.
You can also move then around on the victory screen as well.

If you look at #h1-victory-boasting , you'll see what I mean by the 5 boons showing up on the end screen.

[jagged trellis]

I mean the well items

[meager steppe]

Tick tick tick

[waxen juniper]

Well, if they are there, you can also pin them to the end screen.

But still, the pins don't have any in-game purposes

If you bought the item, then it's active.

[jagged trellis]

Ok thanks

[waxen juniper]

You bet. Any further questions?

[jagged trellis]

No I’m good

[waxen juniper]

Perfect. Glad we could clear things up for you.

[undone burrow]

I was so close to escaping agh

There was just a sliver of health left

[topaz yew]

happened to me too many times to count

but youll get it man

[waxen juniper]

You can do it lad!!!

[winter cape]

escaping? There is no escape!

[narrow rampart]

strums guitar

[topaz yew]

WAIT AGSBNDFGWDGD

||I FIGHT ALL 3 SISTERS||

okay

so it turns out ||em1|| just does that but god damn i cant imagine ||em 4||

[urban path]

ok so is three-headed boy supposed to be a neutral milk hotel reference or what

I need answers

[dull niche]

wait lmao

where do u see 3 headed boy being said

[pearl saddle]

What is deadly strike?

[dull niche]

artemis attack

[pearl saddle]

Okay thank you

[ivory geode]

i think "three-headed boy" is an achievement you get for petting cerb enough times

presumably its just a combo of calling dogs good boys, the best boy, etc and him having three heads

[pearl saddle]

I wish switch had achievments

How do I get good at playing the lyre?

I talked to Orpheus so I should be perfect now

[urban path]

yeah it's the achievement

but also two-headed boy

two-headed boy part 3: three-headed boy

[topaz yew]

whats everyones best times?

[pearl saddle]

Ooh triple shot death strike ||rama|| dash strike

[topaz yew]

mines is 20:30 with twin fist

[pearl saddle]

34:12:00

[topaz yew]

oh nice

[unborn remnant]

16:01

[topaz yew]

With what

[unborn remnant]

||hera|| bow I think?

[topaz yew]

really jesus

[unborn remnant]

or it was the 2nd rail aspect

i forgot the name

[topaz yew]

i might ahve to try that

[pearl saddle]

I JUST GOT 2 DUOS IN THE SAME GETTING THINGY WTH

[brisk trail]

got to the second hades

so close

[small rune]

I got final boss down to like a sliver of health, one of the flame skulls exploded and I got hit by it, dashed away from it and then got hit by it again and died

Was gonna be my first win w the rail and all

[pearl saddle]

Which Duo should I grab?

Crystal Clarity, or Cold Embrace?

[small rune]

I never liked cold embrace but that’s just personal preference on my part

[manic bobcat]

clarity

for sure

[small rune]

The tracking on base crystal shot is so infuriating to me

Oh a question, why use the hera bow? Like I get the point of Poseidon sword because extra damage but I don’t get the advantage of loading casts into the bow

[pearl saddle]

I've used Clarity before bc Embrace does not sound good

OH MY GOD ITS SO GOOD

[small rune]

Hera is???

[pearl saddle]

NOAHJF

ITS SO FUN

[small rune]

If I use bow I use chiron

[pearl saddle]

LOAD 3 CASTS IN ONE SHOT AND WATCH ||HADES|| BURN

[small rune]

But like 7/8 of my escapes are Zeus aspect shield because I’m bad at the game

[pearl saddle]

I beat the game with hera

[small rune]

I just throw it out with some blade rifts

And sit behind the shield

But isn’t it just the same damage as hitting them w 3 casts and an arrow shot?

[pearl saddle]

The most important part of it is comboing ice wine and destroying all the bosses

[small rune]

Oh sh*t

You can bypass the lobbing effect

[pearl saddle]

Because Ice wine usually has a lot of delay

yeah

[small rune]

I hate the lobbing effect

[pearl saddle]

Yup

[small rune]

It’s one of the many reasons I hate the rail

[pearl saddle]

It just teleports to them

and then they have slow dowwn and confusing

[small rune]

But that’s a duo boon and hard to base a build off of tho

[pearl saddle]

nope

i usually find duos easy

[small rune]

Really?

[pearl saddle]

yeah

[small rune]

Do you run the legendary and duo boost mirror or the epic boost mirror

[pearl saddle]

try using the final mirror upgrades

[small rune]

I use the epic boost mirror

Not the other version

Should I switch?

Seemed expensive

[pearl saddle]

bc most of my buiilds are based on the power of duos but thats just me

[small rune]

True a lot of stuff I go for is duo

[pearl saddle]

Yeah it really depends

[meager steppe]

It’s expensive for a reason.

[small rune]

Still waiting for heart rend chiron :(

[pearl saddle]

I want to get ||arthur|| is it worth it?

[small rune]

Well you can try it out and refund it if you buy it, practice on Skelly, don’t leave the room and just immediately go out into an attempt

When u done just press give up

You go back to the save state you entered the weapons room in

[pearl saddle]

Oh cool

[small rune]

I don’t use swords so I couldn’t say

[pearl saddle]

Still having difficulty getting titan blood

[small rune]

I did that on hera before refunding it

[brisk trail]

There is only one situation where you should get it. And it's very important

Yo mama

[small rune]

I just farmed it on zeus aspect shield

With the thunder signet and stacked Zeus boons

[pearl saddle]

i saw it and i was so confused

[small rune]

I did not infact stack them zeus pecs

I stacked various electric stuff

I think splitting bolt was my first legendary actually

[pearl saddle]

How good do you think ||rama|| is, I think its pretty good but ive heard people say its bad

[small rune]

Ehh haven’t used it and not planning to

The special looks cool but the shared part seems useless on final boss

And some minibosses

Like the sneaky guy

In tartarus

I’m biased towards chiron though

:P

[lost remnant]

Its not entirely useless on bosses since its extra damage but yeah it is more meant on clearing big waves

One of the things I love doing with that aspect is getting the upgrade which chains your attack to other peeps

Can clear some rooms rly fast

[small rune]

Man I got 29 hours on hades in less than 4 days

[pearl saddle]

Wow

[small rune]

And some of those days were school until like 3

Best game I’ve played in ages

[pearl saddle]

Yeah

its awesome

But I like ||rama|| because I like zeus on the special

[small rune]

You know you can get the hades role by doing ?rank Hades in bot commands right

That does seem fun

[pearl saddle]

Roles?

Im still pretty new to discord

[small rune]

Ah right

So if you click on my name

It says hades

And I’m green

Basically a way of determine who plays what games/ what role they have on the server

[pearl saddle]

Huh

[small rune]

Mods are purple for example

[pearl saddle]

Bot commands?

[small rune]

One of the text channels

#bot-commands

Just copy what I put for the hades role

Ay nice

Welcome to the upper class

[pearl saddle]

Yee

whats the he/him thing tho

[lost remnant]

Roles are also there if you wanna get pinged by something

[small rune]

Pronouns

Yeah good point

[pearl saddle]

Should I put one?

[small rune]

If you want to

A lot of servers have that these days for it people don’t wanna get misgendered or whatever

[pearl saddle]

K

I dont really care but okay

[small rune]

I don’t mind but I put it anyway

Yeah lol may as well

[pearl saddle]

I have never been called a girl but ive only been on here for like a month

[small rune]

Me neither

[sour sky]

Usually the default on discord is that you’re assumed to be a dude

[small rune]

Someone did think I was 6 years older than I am though at one point

Yeah I agree

[pearl saddle]

Well I never usually specifically use genders so theres no mishaps

[fierce phoenix]

It's default on any online environment tbh

[pearl saddle]

Like i say "guys" but i think thats ok

[quaint wind]

getting a bit off topic here, maybe continue in #off-topic-discussion

[pearl saddle]

Hmm yeah

[small rune]

Ah yeah my bad chief

[quaint wind]

nw

[sour sky]

Knockback builds amirite?

[small rune]

I hate Poseidon so much

[pearl saddle]

Whats the best duo boon??

[small rune]

You never feel true pain until you think you got a legendary

And it’s the fishing +20% one

[sour sky]

Lmao

[small rune]

Or you think you got a heroic boon

[pearl saddle]

Heroic?

[small rune]

But it’s just extra gold and darkness

[sour sky]

What, do you not enjoy the rod of fishing?

[pearl saddle]

THE ROD OF FISHING

[sour sky]

Ngl though I got a huge load of free stuff from the chef after my run where I got that fishing boon

[small rune]

Heroic is above epic

[pearl saddle]

When you're trying to get special dialogue and you get a duo boon

[small rune]

Poseidon has 3 books not related to increasing your combat shenanigans

[sour sky]

Heroic is so rare you basically almost never see it

[small rune]

More than any other god I’m pretty sure

[pearl saddle]

but isnt legendary better>

[sour sky]

I’ve only seen heroic boons like 5 times normally in runs

Legendary boons are unique

[small rune]

Legendary is an entirely different think

Thing*

[sour sky]

Heroic ones are just stronger than epic ones

[small rune]

So normal boons increase in their stats from common-heroic

Legendary boons can only ever be legendary

And have a fixed ability

[pearl saddle]

Huh

[sour sky]

They’re like duo boons but for a single god rather than two

[pearl saddle]

I really like how Zagreus knows exactly what you're thinking

[hollow hawk]

heroic boons also can only be obtained by replacing another boon or by upgrading boon rarity using Eurydice or ||rare crop||

[pearl saddle]

||Like when I first fought the Lernian Bone hydra I instantly called it learnie||

||and then boom||

||the name actually changes to learnie||

[small rune]

Damn is that a spoiler?

[sour sky]

Wdym replacing a boon?

Does that increase the rarity of the boon in that slot?

[pearl saddle]

I dunno

is it?

[sour sky]

I only just encountered that and I’ve fought the hydra a lot

[hollow hawk]

Sometimes you can get boons that replace others, and these replacement boons can be heroic

[small rune]

You can’t get a heroic boon in a slot unless you’ve already got an epic on that slot right

[sour sky]

Well I know but like, does the replacement boon always have upgraded rarity?

[hollow hawk]

using replacement boons, yeah

[hollow hawk]

i dont know if they always do, but usually they do have upgraded rarity

[small rune]

I don’t think I’ve ever had the option to downgrade a boon rarity

[hollow hawk]

Yeah exactly

[small rune]

Lmao wiki is killing me rn

[sour sky]

Never knew about that

[small rune]

Under ‘special boons” there’s 4 types

Duo

Legendary

Chaos

And the coveted

bouldy

[sour sky]

Shouldn’t Hermes boons also count as special since they don’t quite work in the same way?

[hollow hawk]

bouldy believes in you

[small rune]

Wdym they don’t work in the same way

The trinket is different but other than that

[sour sky]

They’re not like the rest of the god boons

[small rune]

Oh right yeah

They don’t go in the same slots

Like his flourish is compatible with another flourish

[sour sky]

They also ignore the other god boons

[small rune]

Yeah

[sour sky]

It’s more like the hammer upgrades

[small rune]

I guess they aren’t different enough

[sour sky]

Especially since you only first see them either in Tartarus shop before the furies or in asphodel

[small rune]

Yeah no one wants a Hermes boon as there first one

Their *

[waxen juniper]

Yeah, Hermes is primarily has supporting boons. They don't make your run, but they definitely don't hurt it either

Now sometimes Hermes is bonkers, but not all the time

[small rune]

I’d still take Hermes over Poseidon any day

[sour sky]

Eh idk

[small rune]

Hermes is good on cast builds

[sour sky]

Some of his boons are nice

[small rune]

You’d choose Hermes over like Artemis or Zeus?

[sour sky]

The one that gives you a speed boost after a dash is my favorite

[hollow hawk]

hermes is also good on any build if you can get hyper sprint+rush delivery

[small rune]

The sprint?

Your favourite boon is the sprint

[waxen juniper]

Yea, that is just a solid combo

[sour sky]

Of all his boons yeah

[small rune]

Oh I thought you meant out of every boon in the game

[sour sky]

Nah

[small rune]

I like greater reflex more personally

[sour sky]

I don’t really have a favorite boon

[hollow hawk]

Hermes' legendary is actually amazing tbh

[sour sky]

That’s a mirror upgrade

Wait

[hollow hawk]

Its also a boon

[small rune]

Hermes has 2 legendary

[hollow hawk]

That gives you +1 to +3 dashes

[small rune]

Greatest* reflex

[sour sky]

I thought it was called something else

[hollow hawk]

Oh does he? Ive only ever gotten auto reload

[small rune]

Auto reload isn’t a legendary?

Greater recall and bad news are his legends

[hollow hawk]

wait what

[sour sky]

But yeah Hermes boons function more like hammers to me

[hollow hawk]

I might be thinking of something else then

[small rune]

Yeah I agree

Hammers are better though

[sour sky]

Well yeah

[small rune]

Like I’d probably choose a hammer over a trial of the gods

Hammers are bae

Unless it’s like both the gods I need for a build

[sour sky]

Is there a limit to how many hammers you can encounter in a run?

[hollow hawk]

2

3 if you take the anvil at styx

but that doesn't really count as a hammer

[small rune]

Man I wish you could get more hammers

Because then you could have the godly trio on the shield

[hollow hawk]

Game would be too easy then tbh

[small rune]

Pierce shot + quick charge + extra dmg to armour

True

I guess that’s why the anvil is random

Balance it a bit

[hollow hawk]

Exactly

[sour sky]

That anvil can really come in clutch though

[small rune]

Lmao I got that earlier too

[hollow hawk]

plus, the anvils purpose is to reset your build if you have a bad one

[sour sky]

I had a shotgun upgrade to exagryph and my god was it awful

[small rune]

I can presume what you got tagged for there paper lmao

Oh god

[hollow hawk]

oh yeah, the shotgun one sucks so bad

[small rune]

The short range blast one?

[hollow hawk]

i regretted ever taking it

[small rune]

I’ve seen that before but never picked it up

Is it that bad?

I was considering getting it and all

[sour sky]

And instead of that thing the anvil gave me rocket bombs + cluster bombs lmao

[hollow hawk]

oh damn

[sour sky]

That combo is so broken and I love it

[hollow hawk]

Id say try it out for the prophecy and stuff, but its meh

[small rune]

Wait does rocket bombs cancel the lobbing effect?

[hollow hawk]

it can be good if you're gonna be close to enemies and having something like aphro's cast that incentives you to

[sour sky]

It would be good with the zag aspect but I was carrying the reload aspect at that time

[hollow hawk]

Yep

[small rune]

Oh damn I need to get that at some point

[sour sky]

Thankfully the power shot still does the long range shot

[hollow hawk]

You just fire 5 bombs in a spread pattern

[small rune]

I hate lobbing

[hollow hawk]

Same

Even on keyboard and mouse, its bad

[small rune]

Only reason I would run hera

Oh god I play W keyboard and mouse

Cant imagine it on console

[hollow hawk]

yeah lol

[small rune]

Might try hera out tommorow

[hollow hawk]

trippy shot gets a bad rep in the community because of the lobbing

[waxen juniper]

Okay, I found my worst Benefits Package experience ever.

|| I got the one where the numbskulls give damage control armor to enemies around them.
... I also have jury summons on. ||

[small rune]

Rn I’m in the middle of an Chiron run

[waxen juniper]

I nearly died to this!

[small rune]

Oh god that sounds awful

[hollow hawk]

Though you can get ||ice wine|| to cancel the lobbing out

[small rune]

I never run benefits package

I still don’t think that’s a spider

[sour sky]

Nonsense

[small rune]

Spoiler

[hollow hawk]

also dackid maybe spoiler that

[sour sky]

It covers everything in festive fog

[hollow hawk]

Since its post end game

[small rune]

You don’t have to beat final boss to get that

[hollow hawk]

Festive fog is good, yes. But trippy shot on its own is meh

[small rune]

I*e w**e that is

[sour sky]

That’s an inherent part of it

[hollow hawk]

Unless ofc you have hera or something

[waxen juniper]

It was the absolute worst!
Somehow it was worse than ||cloner+speeder witches||!

[sour sky]

Not sure what you mean by it being meh on its own when that’s an inherent part of the boon

[hollow hawk]

lobbing is the downside to it

yes

[sour sky]

It has its uses

[small rune]

How do you tag spoilers

[hollow hawk]

since its the highest base damage in the game, they had to nerf it somehow

[sour sky]

Nice for hitting enemies behind barriers

[small rune]

Idk it bounces all over the place when you try to get it over a pillar

[sour sky]

You can’t be right up against it

[hollow hawk]

Even if you arent right up against the pillar

It will still bounce

[small rune]

Yeah

[hollow hawk]

Thats how lobbing works on every lobbed thing in the game

the gun special, cluster bomb, or trippy shot

[small rune]

Which is why lob sucks

Slower and more finicky

[hollow hawk]

||like this||

[sour sky]

There’s different heights to barriers

[small rune]

One could say that attempting to get lob shot to work is...
Sisyphean

|| like this? ||

Ay

That’s why trippy shot is better with hera or || beowulf ||

[sour sky]

Concerning ||heat|| though, isn’t that pretty much one of the most well known things about the game?

[hollow hawk]

well yeah, but id rather have something that doesn't take me 2 seconds to aim and calculate

[sour sky]

I’d not really consider it a spoiler since it has no real story implications

[small rune]

Yeah I knew about it before I bought it

Spoilers are stuff like the final boss

[hollow hawk]

I mean, most people know that it exists but don't know the exact things in it

[small rune]

Ah right so you can say heat but not || extreme measures makes Theseus even more annoying somehow with that goddamn chariot ||

[sour sky]

I’ve yet to see what any of the ||extreme measures|| things actually do beyond the hydra

And that one barely did anything

[hollow hawk]

never go ||em4|| if you want to keep your sanity

Though actually, do it for the extended soundtrack

[pearl saddle]

Hey can you use than on ||hades||

[sour sky]

That timer thing seems like it would be the biggest limiter in high heat though

[hollow hawk]

i think you cant use any ||companion|| on final boss

[hollow hawk]

||td|| is usually free heat

And it gets you into speedrunning, which can help you be better at the game

[sour sky]

5 minutes though? That’s insane

[hollow hawk]

Not for people who can finish the game in under 10 mins lol

[sour sky]

Most can’t

My best run was like 29 minutes and that was on low heat

[pearl saddle]

No, not ||meg|| she doesnt work until ||4 hearts||

[hollow hawk]

oh

Idk then

[hollow hawk]

29 mins? Damn

You should try ||td||, it helped me get my runs down to 17-20mins

[sour sky]

Yeah I’d rather not

[hollow hawk]

It takes a few runs to get used to it tho

Yeah

[sour sky]

It’s 1 extra heat that’s just gonna screw me over if I’m using a slower build

It just sounds like a dps check more than anything

[waxen juniper]

Not gonna lie, Hera+ electric shot is honestly kinda good

[unborn remnant]

hera aphrodite is goated

[waxen juniper]

Goated?

[brazen lagoon]

means really good

[waxen juniper]

Oh yeah, that's a given

[waxen juniper]

Well, I died... but I don't take it back.

[waxen juniper]

TD1 is an absolute joke. Honestly, it requires you to put in the effort to die from it.
TD2 and TD3 is where it gets tough

[sour sky]

Isn’t the total time limit like 36 minutes with it?

[waxen juniper]

I had an incredibly slow run one time where I had 1:00 left on the clock in the first area. Even then, time was never an issue.

Yep. 36 for TD1, 28 for TD2 and 20 for TD3

The timer also pauses when you are choosing hammers/boons, so there is no rush in that regard

[fleet acorn]

timer also pauses in a couple other rooms e.g. than

and you don't get survival rooms

[waxen juniper]

Yea, I honestly forgot survival rooms were a thing :p

[north portal]

I don't know if this should be in tech support, but I have a friend who says the gun is not available to unlock for him

[waxen juniper]

Sounds like it just isn't ready to unlock yet

Ya have to play a few runs before you can unlock it with keys

[north portal]

ah

strange cause I know he did several runs with the spear before moving on to unlocking the other weps

[waxen juniper]

Sounds like a run or two more runs won't hurt

[north portal]

hmm gotcha

[waxen juniper]

Also, I am not entirely sure if this is true, but you may actually have to play the new weapons before the next one can unlock.

[north portal]

oh?

he's saying he's used each of the weps before the gun

ah nvm

he hasn't done fists yet

lets see when he does

[waxen juniper]

That's just a guess, I am really not sure. It has been a long time since I had to unlock the weapons.

[north portal]

yeh cause when I played, I just unlocked weps as I saw them

but I was playing on the switch

[waxen juniper]

Same for me mostly, but I unlocked them when I actually had the necessary keys.

That usually takes a few runs (depending on the weapon)

[north portal]

yeh same

he just stuck with the spear until beating hades before unlocking the other weps

heh

[waxen juniper]

Out of curiosity, is there a reason for the binary? Does a43 mean something?

[north portal]

no

no real reason

think it was just something random form years ago

when I created my first runescape account

I seriously doubt like 2nd grade me knew binary haha

[waxen juniper]

That would be quite impressive

[runic agate]

2nd grade me knew how to sneeze and that was about it

[north portal]

but no the ones and zeroes were probably an autogenerate by the rs system

[waxen juniper]

2nd grade me accidentally flipped off some of my classmates. 😆

[runic agate]

LMFAOO

[north portal]

I think it maybe because I tried to do like aaron49494 which was taken?

[waxen juniper]

I have sad news 101011=/= 49494

[north portal]

second grade me said the f word, knowing what it meant but not understanding it

I did not understand what the term have sex with meant

LOL

[runic agate]

i have one of the more unique user names so i dont really have to worry about it being taken since my normal username is Zekanark

[runic agate]

[waxen juniper]

This is genuinely the first time I've seen you say anything besides "E"

[runic agate]

LMFAO

i talk normally sometimes

[waxen juniper]

I guess the blue moon came tonight

[runic agate]

nah

i talk here normally like once a day now

[waxen juniper]

I feel blessed to experience this

[runic agate]

since i was banned on my normal hangout server ive been more active in all the servers im in

[waxen juniper]

Let's try to keep it that way. Everybody, don't tell him!

[north portal]

heh

[runic agate]

i was banned for a crazy dumb reason

[north portal]

2nd grade was years ago

[runic agate]

but i dont wanna talk about it

[waxen juniper]

Ah man, sorry to hear dude. Also, lets bring this to #off-topic-discussion . We are way off hades at this point

[north portal]

lol

[runic agate]

aight

[waxen juniper]

How long have the both of you been playing?

[sour sky]

never answers

[plucky phoenix]

||how many phases does hades have?||

[waxen juniper]

2. 3 if you have ||EM4|| on

[waxen juniper]

Don't worry, I like talking to myself every now and then. :P

[bright nymph]

52 hours into the game and I just now got the War-God's Bloodlust prophecy