#h1-discussion
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On sale in the Nintendo switch shop.
Darn
PC?
My switch is currently impounded by my wee sister 
I never get to see that damn thing anymore
Let me guess. Animal crossing?
Yes
Haven’t gone there yet. I’m sure it’s coming.
My mother is obsessed with that. I wonder if I can get her into Hades...
My daughter is in kindergarten. If it makes her read, then so be it.
Hades or animal crossing?
Animal crossing. Hades has spoken dialogue. Does animal crossing?
It does if you do funny voices for the characters
Noice
I’ve been avoiding ||god mode||. Am I suffering needlessly? Probably....
made another Hades live wallpaper for Wallpaper Engine
the art in this game is freaking gorgeous
Don’t disagree.
I see 3 very good boys in that pic
Also congrAts on 32. The way I struggle with 0...
Yeah, I need to get through
no shame in taking a few attempts, no shame in using godmode, play how you want as long as you're having fun 
Awe thanks! @plucky brook
I’ve always found that once you introduce that crutch you can’t ever get rid of it.
And once the farm is done, the game’s no fun.
Thankfully, I’m not afraid to die.
I won’t judge you for it though. The game gives me contra vibes.
Lots to see and death all around.
that's something I love about hades, it's semi-roguelike where you actually have benefits from dying.
I was getting myself absolutely kicked in the teeth when starting ||32 heat|| runs, and Hypnos suddenly had so much more dialogue for me,
granted I was malding because I died, but it was amusing that even after 100h he still had new stuff to say
This game has made me not afraid to die because the afterlife is minmaxing
Woohoo!
I mean, there's a ||song about death|| in the game.
It's made me come to terms with it.
If you believe the Buddhists, sure.
more than just one!
You do you, ladies.
I need to cut the curve by about 100h and get back to adulthood.
This was supposed to be my Christmas vice
And here I am 80h later...
I didn't care before I was born and I won't care after I'm gone. I'm here to enjoy the in between
So, I'd hate to do a 7-heat run or something and get my ass wrecked by || daddy.||, so having to start again for that last ||titan blood||
Boomer reflexes, I won't actually get good...
Can maybe do 5h with no issue.
Schopenhauer moment
Not sure winning is the point is all. But I get it.
And adulthood is a constant struggle so I get that. Four kids ten and under.
You make a compelling arguement.
Spoilers ahead
Massive ones
|| But after you speak to your mum 10 times and she agrees to come back, your mirror is maxed out (except the bottom row) and you start ramping that pact of punishment a few times - what's the point of dying over and over? It's not all that much part of the game at that stage. Plus, I died enough time suiciding trying to ramp that 'boon' to 80% ||
That’s quite a wall of text. And I’m one heat level 1
@brisk trail there's additional story that explains the purpose of the continued gameplay loop
There is a very simple answer
theres still an explanation for it
|| to go fishing in greece ||
you dont get that after the ||ten runs though|| :P
Okay. I can tell I’m out of my depth here. So many spoilers tags.
Yeah, but you can keep doing it after 10
you cant ||visit greece once your mother comes back. fishing moves to the same room you fight the boss||
yeah dw just talking about some stuff you'll understand after a few more clears 
||honestly whenever I see that sparkling point where he's looking out, it gives me more motivation
||
I mean. After one clear you kinda get a bit of a feel for where we’re headed, but I’ll wait it out. Only seen hades three times so far. Keep hitting a wall at ||theseus||
Damn. Kinda wish I didn't read that tag because now I never want to play the game again
theseus is a SPOOKY boi, can confirm
(also he isn't a spoiler as he's before the final boss which is the spoiler trigger)
Really?

Virgin Theseus vs. The Chad Asterius
but yeah just keep playing, keep having fun, you'll come to understand some things as time passes and then you can click spoilers 
That’s the plan.
I've felt my gameplay get worse lately
getting too complacent with not dodging etc
Yeah. I think I see the YouTubers and streamers and get too aggressive.
But isn't it more exciting to barely beat the final boss with 16 hp
Is how I'm justifying my most recent run
redacted is a spoiler in this channel 😄
by redacted they mean ||hades|| 
I still find it hilarious when || Hypnos freaks out because you die by natural causes ||
Boomer reflexes don't matter. Pay attention to enemies and anticipate when they strike and you'll get good pretty quick.
||i can respect the hades fight being a spoiler but at the same time its kind of an inevitability innit||
I didn't know about it when I picked up the game and remained spoiler free bout it till I learned myself, so I think it's a worthwhile cause
||i mean i just figured from basically the start that "im gonna have to fight my dad eventually huh"||
||my heart when I beat theseus the first time and came across cerberus standing there, I thought I had to take on doggo with 0 DD and no health
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||ME EXCEPT INSTEAD OF BEING AFRAID ID DIE I WAS LIKE NOOOO DONT MAKE ME FIGHT THE PUBBY||
||my mind just never connected that
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Crank up the ||heat|| then. You'll definitely get better because of that
I got my ||32h|| done, just been slowly going up with ||bounties|| at like ||~10|| for most weapons now
Good job! Sounds like progress to me :)
yo imagine hypnos reading off his list that ||zag got mauled by a bear and be like tf is a bear||
He does comment something similar with ||natural causes||
quick q if I may it seem like skelly stopped going up in hearts, new conversation, not offering nectar
do have to fight him for it or is the fighting pointless to do
(modern/human au)
zagreus: so everyone knows homer's smash hit the iliad, right? well, the sequel's pretty good too. if you haven't checked it out yet you really... odyssey it
hypnos, who wasn't really paying attention: ???? Homer Smash????
non-spoiler answer: it's related to the aspects
spoiler answer: ||you need to unlock 4 non-zag aspects, after a few runs he'll ask you to kill him with max zag sword||
havent even done one finished run. got to end boss no spoiler only twice and died both times
ah then yeah, just keep playing the game and you'll uncover it in time 
Okay, you're a ways away from unlocking that heart
skelly will just keep telling you to wack him or something for a bit 
And he won't stop either. It's his job after all
ok just wondering, just got the fishing polebut havent got a chance to use it yet
Skelly abuse was part of the contract
so fighting him is a waste of time or adds something?
Skelly? He's a training dummy
thought so
There is a steam achievement linked to it, but nothing gameplay wise as far as I'm aware
I wasn't a lot into Poseidon boons but they're pretty good with railgun.
damn hating the minotaur duo battle, that drags on brutally. sucks bigtime to then die at last boss after that
😫
only got to him 2x and lost
but getting alot better and further
Poseidons boons are quite nice. He is a very strong god.
Breaking wave and Typhoon's fury are lovely
it becomes more how many death defiance do I lose on each boss
Just takes some practice. You can do it!
how do I get more of those blood things that let's me upgrade my artifacts
Yeah, Poseidon is probably good with melee weapons as well but for now I enjoy it with ranged weapons, I'll try it with melee weapons later when I'll be more used to knockback, it can do a lot of damage.
Got to beat a run first
There's 1 for each weapon kill on fury, ||1 for each hades kill with each weapon, and then you can make the game harder with a "pact" which allows you to re-earn those rewards||
Spoilers in my msg, obviously
^
hey guys so update on the hades relay race, my run basically went perfectly, no horrible rng
Knockback distance seems to be affected by damage right ?
my favorite is the spear upgraded to 3 spears wideshot
No, just each time it hits.
So chiron knockbacks things farther than say an arthur attack
But 1 knockback attack goes the same distance
I've seen a video with bow and lvl 31 Poseidon on attack that can knockback ||Hades||.
man that theseus fight just tilted me. Rushed down the bull in like 10 second and then theseus proceeded to camp the corners with his shield up while whatever god power spammed the entire field wit .5sec warning. Not like those zone control powers that at least give you a clear spot to stand
He took down 2 death defiance because literally only my cast aoe could hit him, the bow couldn't get behind him
theseus feels cheap camping in corner firing while focusing on minotaur
I've got aspect of chiron so the special is homing arrows, with the +4 upgrade, so it's usually awesome for arced backstabbing
but not when he camps the walls so it hits terrain
I usually do minotaur emphasis first
minotaur is easier to hit and does more damage, usually theseus alone isn't a problem but this time
Theseus is vulnerable after he does his spear throw attack
that's like a 1s window?
that's valid, it's a bit weapon oriented, I use things like eris rail, hidden sword & demeter fists, meaning that if I focus theseus, asterius will just take damage from being in my general vicinity
honestly the god spam was a huge problem because I couldn't even keep him on screen waiting for the opening
Nah, little longer than that. You can get some good hits in at this point
@waxen juniper Well I'm using Hestia aspect and the first shot when reloading manually knockback further enemies rather than normal shots.
last time I fought the last boss with a great build his 2 opening spin hits each took out a dd
I haven't killed him yet with a melee build for that reason
And like I said about the video with lvl 31 Poseidon attack on bow that knockback enemies really far.
you can attack him while he does the god call
just dash back and forth
I never had Theseus getting in a corner.
Hmm, maybe I am wrong then
I just dash like a madman wasp attacking praying I dont get hit
like actually though
gotta spoiler ||hades||my dude
Bad idea to put non damage up boon on railgun special, like curses.
not sitting back and slowly lunging
I'm trying to get better with railgun right now.
Hidden ||Lucifer|| aspect is really fun
Turns it into a ||beam|| weapon
Was just thinking, probably the two gods I find myself seeking the aid of most using Achilles spear are Poseidon and Artemis. Kinda ironic given Poseidon staunchly supported the Trojans and Artemis was one of the two patron deities of Sparta, who Achilles feuded with. Just a random thought.
I havent unlocked it yet.
Oh nice.

And it can proc Zeus chain lightning basically every 0.5 seconds and its STUPID good
how to increase rail skill:
step 1: zeus keepsake
step 2: zeus attack
step 3: brrrr
Zeus cast is terrible with Hera bow, no wonder why their marriage isn’t very good
is god mode a big difference?
I believe he didn't mention ||Hades||.
20% base damage resist, going up 2% every death to a max of 80%
just saw what it does
he did then he edited it
Oh I actually checked if he edited it but I didn't see it at first.
I did edit it
I must be the only one here not having beat final boss yet 😩
but can i still fulfill some prophecies that i wanna get out of the way with it?
I thought spoilers were allowed outside the new player channel
Its really fun to knockback enemies in your railgun special.
No I believe ya it was my mistake
Its even more fun when you get the hidden because the ||beam|| procs attack boons on a tick rather than just once
Unfortunately it doesnt work as well with the Athena attack = deflect boon because the end of the ||beam|| or the body ||beam|| cant deflect, just the origin of the ||beam||
is the cast's worth wasting time on seems kinda worthless damage wise and feels more like a throw able item I need to retrieve every time
Its pretty strong damage boost on embed.
it's good if you build around it.
vs just using normal and special attacks
||i havent unlocked aspect of lucifer yet but i like it solely on merit that it implies lucifer is a hero||
Interesting.
always
I can burst Hydra down in ~20 seconds if Im slapping it with cast and blasting him with damage
cast seems pointless wasting boons on
Besides, 3xCast with ||Demeter|| or deflect boons is stupid
at least early on
Well for a game about going against your father's wishes, Id say its par for the course for ||Luci|| and Zag to be heroes 
impression I'm getting, damagewise it seems weak and useless
Cast is awesome and can do great damage.
^^
Embed ?
I can get most of the way through 1st floor with just cast without a cast boon
Mirror upgrade. Cast gets embedded into enemy = more damage
Boons can apply curses which helps a lot.
must be doing something wrong 🤔
||5 cast embed on Hades was brok||
Oh I see, I actually didn't know the english name.
I thought cast didnt stack.
No matter how many bloodstones you have on an enemy.
It depends on how you build your run.
Cast is usually in the support role unless you build for a cast run.
Just use it to lodge enemies.
Boons, idk if the damage goes up after 3 cast on enemy though.
People here said they doesnt stack.
Cast + Pose boon is also great fun too with how much you can smash enemies into walls
What doesn't?
Poms do stack, lodging damage bonus doesn't
Cast embed damage on more than 3 cast in an enemy
But its worth having more if you have dislodge damage uo.
Yeah, that doesn't stack, 1 or 3 gives the same amount ogf bonus.
For lodged stones.
I had 4 cast with ||Demeter boon|| which is what I was talking about. Very good damage.
Funny thing about the poseidon cast, huge aoe damage and knockback
omg hello hades people
you can just spam a pillar with it for invincible zoning
Hey so I was watching the vod of the gdq run and they used ||Meg on the Hades fight,|| but last I checked you can't do that, were they running on an old version or is there some trick?
It's lore locked.
||Companions||
Especially in the ||final maze|| you can control every room with the poseidon cast
Poseidon and Zeus duo boon is awesome, I wasn't using both of them a lot but now with railgun I'll have a reason to.
I know what those are
I'm saying it said ||summon not available|| when I tried to do it
Unova, it's lore locked. You need to clear the end credit or even the epilogue.
nah not quite right fox
||4 hearts with Hades
7 hearts with at least 2 of the following: Megaera, Thanatos, Dusa, Achilles, Skelly, Sisyphus
The above must include one of the following: Megaera, Thanatos, Dusa, or Achilles||
^answer above
Wait I did clear the end credits though
One of the two, it has been a while I don't remember
ur so swag for having unova as ur name
gen 5 slapped
Facts
yes, the lore answer, is what I spoilered
You can't use companions against the final boss, except ||skelly and bouldy||

So I just need to ||shove more nectar at him ||got it
no you cannot, not until you unlock the option late late game
it's not late late game at all 
show me a run where you Meg the final boss pre end credit
literally the answer is what I spoilered above
credits/epilogue has nothing to do with it
Bruh, you can't get 4 hearts pre end credit
it's relationship based with specific people
i have a really funny meme abt a companion but its spoilers and im on mobile
Another thing to keep in mind with Rail is to always be on the move, and use your special as your buffer while you reload, and whenever else you can.
You can't gift ||Hades|| past 1 until ||Mom comes home||
Ok so it's just post end credits
That's late game, unless we are gatekeeping that also.
its about SPOILERS ||thanatos finding mort its so funny||
The two most useful Rail upgrades Ive found are the +pierce/ricochet or +special bonuses.
but that has no relevance to the actual answer, which he wanted 
Well I said it's lore locked. I might have been unclear on the details.
But it did explain the Megging of ||the final boss.||
tbh i love how you spoiler the spoilers
that sounds wrong somehow lmao
usually you write down at least some sort of spolier-free word to indicate the content of a spoiler
So, I've still got the hearts locked on || Alcoholic god whose name I can't spell, Artemis and Demeter||....
you can post it in #fan-works I think
it's a free fire zone overthere :D
It feels nice when you don't take an athena keepsake into elysium and get a natural athena for her dash anyway
has anyone finished the game i want to send a funny meme but no one in my friend group knows hades 
post it in #fan-works dude, people there would appreciate it im sure
I wish that were me lol
OH its not my art or fan work its a tik tok that i think relates to thanatos
i believe his name is D||.O.GG.||
oh gotcha
As soon as I get a dash boon, Athena doesnt wanna give me hers
I took acorn because I don't think I've quite mastered ||EM3|| heroes fight and my ||heat|| is getting high enough I still think I should take it over the alternatives
At some point you unlock the possibility of summoning companions against ||Hades||.
But I got an athena in the miniboss chamber anyway
I'm so done with this convo lol
i finished 16 heat today with a remote drift and i nearly died zagreus kept running into lava 
It seems like if you already have a boon in a main slot, you're less likely to find it from another god.
Other people misunderstood the question and kept talking about how to unlock Companion
@manic bobcat Oh my bad I wasn't following the convo.
Yeah, what I said was to explain the confusion
Im in agreement but only in the case of Athena because I got 3 boons in a row from Aphro, Demeter, and Pose that all were to replace my Zeus attack boon 
All good.
Lol.
you can
ITS NOTHING LIKE BIG SPOILERY
when you insert image
WOOOOO

OH its a tik tok ill just send the link dhcjenf
Btw everyone cant post pictures right ?
yeah
yeah
Yep
you can in #h1-victory-boasting
server role restictions
I thought it was locked behind a role you earn after a while.
im so sorry this is all abt me wanting to post a stupid little tik tok EHJCN
Why no pictures allowed btw ?
just do imgur or post to your private server and copy link here
Its probably added individually to people per channel if they need to
Spam I think
Spam ^
not only that
I guessed so.
Its also harder to moderate if all channels have pics
than images
^^
and images can get gory and 18+ish
not that the game is child friendly i'd assume
in some aspects
but still
: P
i guess blood is just 12+
I mean yeah, though some other server that is equally big and they allow image privilege
or smth
SGG is just a bit strict imo, but just a mild nuisance so whatev
it's still regulated in some capacity, i'd assume
Yeah usually with a slowmode timer
anyway, Hades
i'd assume offtopic you can post images
Anyway, Hades.
Its fine honestly, each server works differently.
They have a tutorial on how to play ||Good Riddance|| on guitar
120 hours in Hades now, still not tired.
Found it last night and now I need to buy a guitar so I can sing it
imma post the image link in here watch if u finished hades and got the companions btw || THIS IS THANATOS FINDING MORT LMAO https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMJTPGf1j/||
IVE BEEN LAUGHIGN AT THIS FOR SO LONG
Talking about music, I listened to the full final battle theme and its amazing, when playing the game the fight usually dont last long enough to really listen to all of it, not because dying but the ||transition between phases.||
Final battle ||phase 2|| is my favorite theme of the game.
I was really impressed when I first heard it and metal is my favorite music genre so yeah.
Styx rooms with knockback and boons based around it is too good lol, walls everywhere.
I usually clear styx rooms really fast but right now this is the fastest I've done, I'm going to do every rooms because it just feels great.
yo
i own none
I obliterated even the mini bosses, not tiny vermin btw but still I usually dont kill the mini bosses there within seconds.
If you ask which of the two to buy in the Hades server, don't be surprise when you get recommended Hades lol.
Also mr incredible kills Barney in the end to save Hades...oops 4got to give a spoiler warning. well u have to take the VERY dark ending where Shaggy gets eaten by shrek while big chungus gets drunk with maple syrup to see Mr Incredible do that......hey I learned it from Thomas the metro in the second reality after he killed the magic school bus and lightning mcqueen...yea i have mental tissues
???
I only have 1 boon that does extra effect when knocked against walls, I cant imagine with more than that.
What he's saying is, most people here would say Hades.
I got to ||Tiny Vermin|| fight and I got scared
Also, that's 2 very different genres.
Hes stronger than he looks
Tiny vermin is really annoying yeah.
On my Hera Crush Shot build run the fight was alright.
I dont remember what I used for that fight but even with a dodge deflect I was a bit anxious haha
||TINY VERMIN|| FIGHT IS SO FUNNY
I'm glad I'm finally enjoying Poseidon boons.
Pose has some strong duo boons
Random thought: There is not a single bat in the Underworld 
There are like a lot though
||the furies 👀||
Of bats or Pose duo boons?
Bats
With this game I try to explore everything, I want to try everything and get better with each, sometimes I even do ||AP2|| runs to be forced to use boons I wouldn't use in general to get better at them and find new combinations.
Hmm I guess Meg ||& co would count but they are Furies and not bats||
There is ||an upgrade in the Lounge that is literally called the Bat Cage, open it and you release a bunch of bat :D||
No spiders though
Not yet at least
Or just animals in general I guess
Styx rooms are always a blast to clear but right now it gotta be the best I've ever done.
The most fun I ever had with it so far.
yeah
especially with a good build
also
saving up currently for the giant gold statues near the pool you unlock from || beating charon ||
gonna be such a massive flex
Ive yet to do ||Charon|| fight
Cant seem to get a dodge deflect + ||Charon|| fight spawn in the same run with my abysmal luck
It's either super low probability or you ||need to enter his shop in the early game completely broke ||
|| All times I've fought him I've had less than 150g and entered his stop the first time it was offered ||
Hmmm, Ill look into that then.
Im prepared to get all Athena boons so I can crutch my way to victory 
Just cleared a railgun run with just ||TD1|| and that was mostly trying out boons, now I'm gonna focus around knockback build.
I'm gonna be using more Poseidon and Zeus with railgun, two gods that I usually dont play much with.
Ngl my only clears are with Rail so my skill with it is terrible
Not that terrible if you actually cleared runs with it.
Eris?
We all start somewhere.
Dont forget that experience with one weapon also gives you experience with other weapons.
That is if you learn enemies patterns and such you would feel more confident about it with other weapons.
No the other one actually, ||Hestia aspect||
Yeah Ive memorized all the enemy patterns within ~25 runs give or take, save for some of the more lucrative fights. Its not too hard, Im just bad with other weapons. 
Hestia is my favorite for now, I have yet to unlock its hidden aspect.
I think Im gonna learn how to use bow next because its the most difficult for me to use
Its a very hit or miss weapon, literally.
I'm having way more fun than expected with Poseidon.
Ironic when he was the god I was using the least.
Is there a way to know how many enemies you've slain?
scrying pool
you can purchase it through the house contractor for zags bedroom
its all enemies in total and nothing detailed
I forgot about that! Thanks!
ye np
hey guys who is the best girl to simp for in hades
Artemis
^
You
Cant
Rate
Girls
Artemis

Dusa is just a head
Cause Artemis stronk
Nyx is night mom
Artemis got that girl next door vibe
best girl to simp for are obviously the witches in asphodel because they give you a chance to see all of your favorite girls again
i think only girls should be allowed to "simp" for artemis
No drama
this is coming from a completely unbiased source btw
artemis >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evryone else
yall really simping over virtual characters huh
actin like you ain't
Artemis' character is also very well crafted too, and not 1D like the other gods
shut
I'd chill in the woods with her ngl but I am neither a man nor a woman so like 🤷
i think uhhh.... which girls r cute
i mean arte is cute lol
Dusa and Artemis
^
i like athena :}
I'm too pan for Hades everyone is hot, cute, or Just Lovely
and eurydice but she's spoken for of course
Athena is #2 for me
I forgot about Eurydice for a sec
stares in demeter
Eurydice is wonderful and I love her a lot She And Orpheus Deserve Happiness
Several people are typing...
real person to simp over is bouldy like who couldnt resist those sexy curves 😩😩
I know what I said
you rockin wit grandma bro ⁉️
what, you're saying demeter isn't lovely?
Just reached styx on my first 16 heat run
I blew all 3 DD on Theseus, got one DD from Charon Well and equipped skellys tooth.
I fear for my life.
16 heat 
I mean like I think she's Just Lovely and needs some peace
Lemme rephrase then. Hot, pretty, cute, or Just Lovely
i am going scaredy boi chiron bow build.
Demeter + Athena Duo boon for the healing at Hades
Trying to get Athena's favor seems hard
young demeter would probably be very striking
Demeter's design is amazing and I love her a lot
but chaos isn't a girl
or a guy
chaos is chaos
Chaos is a nonbinary icon
Well I love railgun now, paired with knockback build I have no words, the bomb mini boss in Styx literally killed in like 2 seconds.
Chaos is half of my aesthetic ngl
Chaos gives me similar vibes to Delirium from Sandman
Yep, welcome to Rail haha
Try a railgun Hazard bomb build.
It literally obliterates everything
Its one of the most versatile weapons in the game
Obliterate is the word honestly.
Rail gun is great!
I have 0 luck with railgun
So many good builds that you can get on it, and the hidden is quite fun too.
First time I beat hades was with the rail
I'm gonna try ||EM4|| with it after this run.
Mine was with the shield
First time with spear here.
Hazard bomb gives you +300% Special Damage, add Aphrodite flourish on that.
the most special damage I've had on a hazard bomb build is +650% with Chaos boons and a heroic aphrodite flourish
@inland heath ||Hades|| battle is a spoiler.
I'll look into it.
yeah gotta be a little careful but it doesn't deal a lot
so even if you make an oopsy it isnt too unforgiving
Any damage that you can avoid is damage that youre better off not eating
But I only say that cause I run into traps every single time 
Literally every simp discussion
Yeah I had Hazard Bomb on my previous run, right now I have Cluster Bomb I like it, you can even target the same place with all of them which is better than regular I guess ? Since 5x 30%.
Id simp for all of you 
aw
3xSpecial is my preferred Special upgrade, but Cluster is very useful in ||Hades fight|| for clearing out those annoying OHK pillars
Yeah.
ok so I competed in the second ever hades infernal arms relay race
Yoooo found Satyr head within the first 2 tunnels and I have 8 minutes left to kill final boss
6 runners on each team, 1 weapon per runner
How does the relay work
I was on spear, and I got the god run
Infernal Arms Race - All Weapons Relay RULES Two teams of six (6) racers each Each racer will be designated one of the Infernal Arms, so that each team has one racer for each weapon Before the race, teams will agree on a set weapon order that the relay will follow. On go, each team’s first ...
these are the rules
@wispy flax I always clear the pillars.
Same, theres just no effective way to do it quickly because they cant chain lightning or other AoE/chain boons
Dodges and dash deflects dont seem to work on them either so they always grab a Death Defiance stack
Depends but you gotta be good at dodging ||Hades|| at the same time and not stepping in them while you're at it.
Or the 300IQ move which is to get ||Hades|| to destroy them for you
Probably my fastest regular ||Hades|| fight right now or one of, railgun is too good.
I've always been interested into it and I was looking forward the day I'll play better with it.
The skill ceiling is pretty high for a lot of weapons, but Rail is really easy to learn and start getting your combos down
bruh actually tho, I can't get any new upgrades in the house contractors
according to the wiki, I've got the prerequisites for tons of stuff
but they don't show up
Boons combo you mean ?
does the "list of minor prophecies" prerequisite require you to finish every single minor prophecy or just buy the item?
just have it
No your weapon combo
weird...
Basically the point is to never stop dealing damage, because once you do you place yourself at greater risk of being hit and being hit = more likely to die
So the more stuff you can fling at enemies and the more damage you can deal, the more likely you are to survive
Hence, learning the best ways to chain attacks together to never give enemies any breathing room is the most consistent way to get to ||Hades and then whoop him too||
I didn't realize how needed the last 3 perks from the darkness mirror are.
||Died to dad from timing out with 9 minutes left, due to not dealing enough damage as I only had common rarity boons and didn't have the required legendary to make the build work||
So rip my Heat 16 run
Yeah its really good. I maxed them out recently and I havent looked back.
Routine Inspection is brutal
I changed it out to a different heat
gonna try it again I guess
Routine inspection and approval process are the worst
@wispy flax Oh I see yeah.
I think I went forced overtime for mine but you do have to get used to it
Yeah that loop of "deal as much damage as you can without getting hit" is the core of all RLites and RLikes
Since you’ll probably take more damage from things moving around faster
Yeah pretty much, I've played a lot of Roguelike games.
And TD2, since my runs are generally under 28 minutes
Is it okay to start on hellmode? im pretty experienced with roguelikes and such so i dont think extra difficulty would be too bad
i just want to be sure it doesnt have anything else that would make the experience different
whats hellmode
I'm also a roguelike vet and had difficulties with normal mode at first
or is anything unique to it or just normal
It just has one thing that makes it different from a regular game
@merry mesa if you're good at roguelikes, you'll just move through the base game faster which is good
Personal liability—no more brief invincibility period after a large hit
I don't find heightned security punishing at all, but I also didn't get hit by a trap until like my 5th run in
And it also forces you to do some other difficulty adding conditions
so i should just do normal mode?
Yeah
Hellmode is seperate from godmode which is seperate from normal. Think of them like easy medium and hard
This run is over.
Done.
I win. Just got Relentless Volley in my third room and Epic Demeter flourish in the first room.
Its DONE
God mode cant be enabled in Hell mode.
The game isn't "easy" on normal mode
Are you playing Chiron?
yes
Easy would be god mode then, gotcha
That's Godmode
Demeter shatter + Legendary boon on Chiron is just.... nasty
God mode just gives you damage reduction
The game just uses progression to meet your skill level
Up to a max of 80%
I suppose I should try out hellmode at one point
you know what would be cool
a throw cast at cursor option
keep attacks and such with movement but be able to aim cast precisely cause keyboard kinda iffy
Have a question: Does Demeter Nourished Soul boon affect Death Defiance?
pretty sure it just means fountains and food
Thanks
I'm pretty sure it does actually, since it affects all healing, and DD counts as healing
Gonna try a boonless run tonight 🤞
@waxen juniper How is that even possible?
You have to sell boons after each boss fight. The goal is to get to the final boss boonless
Do hammers count?
Nope.
You also gotta be looking out for the random styx pools that appear in chambers!
Hmmm. The crit sword with double special and double damage crit thrust might be good for that
Yep. So you wanna take 3 boons max for each floor and then sell them all every floor.
Hestia/Arthur might be better
they benefit more from Shackle
which is the keepsake you'd want for a boonless run
I completely forgot shackle lol
I'm gonna do it with Eris. That seems great with shackle
Shackle is like
backbone of boonless runs
I cant unlock fourth aspects for some reason
it's the reload mechanic, I;m guessing?
Love hestia with a passion
but only after i rebound my keys haha
did you spend it on the Achilles and Hades aspects?
Yeah I've unlocked both and upgraded Achilles twice
ah
then it's just a matter of waiting
if you wanna speed it up, just fail a bunch of runs in a row, and talk to achilles each time
that'll get through the dialogue quickly
@wind token [redacted] is a spoiler in this channel, if you dont mind adding a spoiler tag please 
@narrow hemlock better?
spoiler it bruv
yeah thats the one i meant 😄
Sorry
its aight
you're good! you can spoiler content like so in the future: ||text here||
i feel bad for lernie
tbh
got messed up by heracles then gets beaten up by zagreus countless times
tbf, ||Zag gave him a way better name||
yeah but still
deflect on attack is underrated
Yes, but not all weapons can use it effectively
thats true
and spear?
yeah I tried to make the aspect special rush work but triple jab is where it's at
Its either triple jab or better dash strike tbh
Either (or both!) are great for Spear
yeaah the fun thing about dash strike is leaving the spear up sometimes for a later teleport
just tried hades out today and 😳 damn
Damn
hawt
No u
what makes aphrodite busted?
@torpid fox Get ready for a long ride.
She's hawt
Highest +damage% of all the gods
But also weak is a really easy to proc status that stays on forever and has great duo boon synergies
@graceful flicker Her damage scaling is the best, plus double shot doubles that, plus she gets boons that add damage to her status affect
Only jolted and rupture and chill don't have synergy with weak, everything else does
I was doing 2000 point combos with 5 quick shots lol
Heart rend demeter special can delete bosses the same way arty call full Guage does
I often play with Aphrodite boons, she's definitely great.
yes sir haha
you die alot but it doesnt make me rage as hard as lets say dark souls
dark souls can be passed off as just needing to git gud but death is pretty much inevitable in hades
death is gud
Some Dark Souls traps are pure evil tbh
what's heart rend?
Duo boon between Aphrodite and Artemis
crit deals more damage to weak foes
ik it's kinda basic but i'm a big fan of the sword honestly
but the fists are my one true love
i havent spent much time with the sword
its hidden aspect is probably what i'm best with, though i think the fists r more fun
Spear and Rail are my go-to weapons atm
theyre fun too! the spear's special is super fun to use
i like the fists bc i can get in really close and punch really fast lol
the fast punching is pretty epic though
which aspect do you like the most?
also having done a really good run with || guan yu|| i can confirm i like all of them
the spear aspects
uh
hades probably
any tips for ||guan yu||? I just started messing around with it
but i havent played with zagreus aspect mcuh recently so i can't really factor that one in
uh
special hammers really good with it
like breaching skewer, chain skewer, charged skewer
yeah pretty much the only thing I have heard is just max special damage
yeah uh
i mean i think deadly strike is good on main
quick spin is also great because you can just spam ||serpent slash||
I mean I watched a vid from haelian where he recomended pretty much just using special.. is that a good way to use it, or should I try to mix in other attacks as well?
i mean if you can but if you get the right special build it can tear
can you actually get quick spin and ||flying serpent|| in the same run?
kinda, but the reduced health is still a major drawback since in that case you're mostly not gonna be using your spin attack
but the ||healing from frost fair is still useful and the spear attacks are still there between spear throws ||
also idk maybe that would be q fun build
with both of those spear hammers
I feel like the spin attack leaves me so vulnerable
it does
like I have to stay close and it takes a long time
you can try charged skewer and quick spin at the same time to balance it out
I always end up taking way more damage than I can get
charged skewer would be amazing hy itself
and quick spin is probably more useful than any other spin hammers
use the special as your main source of damage but if there's a bunch of enemies near you pull out the quick spin
since it makes doing the spin faster
yeah. I just did a run with charged skewer and focused on special. I ended up clearing, but it was only at 1 ||heat||
which is very benificial to ||guan yu||
Spin attack is very good
point is with || guan yu||
The trick is to dash spin
Charging spin attack in front of your enemies is a bad idea
keep at a range and don't take risks at close range if you can help iit and focus on special depending on the build but it's a solid weapon i think it just has a big curve ans titan blood investment
that's what I have been doing lol..
The stagger also gives you plenty of time to recovery so you aren't very much at risk
the voice acting in this game though
i think its worth the titian blood if you care about the spear
yeah I have it maxed
but you don't need it all to try it out but a few levels wouldn't hurt
you're gonna spend titan blood on it at some point anyways
Whole idea behind playing spear is staying 10ft away and poking your enemies
if you're struggling for health
maybe take aphrodite
for life affirmation
because 1. aphrodite boons probably work really well with || guan yu || anyway
due to big damage increases and weak
what is the recommended boon for special? I have been going artemis for extra crit
i like throwing the spear and calling it back to get the backstab damage ion
weak works well with most weapons really
i went divine flourish and it worked really well
yeah but less health + weak weak helps with that
ive seen frost used
i think uh
yeah I kinda want to try aphro next time
basically any flourish that isn't like zeus dionysus or ares would work
if you got it buffed enough
in fact I actually grabbed aphro this past run, but I got heroic from artemis next and couldn't pass it up
yeah
dionysus and ||demeter|| are bad on guan yu special for obvious reasons
it was nasty
I would think anything that would stack is bad?
oh yeah it still increases damage
ah okay I see
no but the flourish will still make rhe throw do more damage
artemis and aphro are still better choices
it just won't rally be able to apply lots of status but you don't really need that with a powerful spear throw
yeah athenas also good
like i had it and it was very good defensively
which helped with the squishiness and me using the butterfly
I took tidal dash but I feel like divine would have been better
ooh poseidon on special could be fun
broseidon
would the || frost fair blade spin activate zeus lightning much|| if you went lightning strike
you could do a lightning strike + tempest flourish sea storm build if its a viable main attack boon
for the spin
because usually you probably never wanna pick lightning strike on the spear
I feel like zeus + Poseidon hidden spear build could be fun
I like aphro on special most of the time cause aphro stays on for a while
And there better boons for when you're attacking as often as most weapon attacks do
all I know is zeus attacks have certain cooldowns
The cool down only procs on chiron
oh really?
Rest of the weapons are too slow
insert suffering from success meme
imagine hitting the enemy so fast the lightning doesn't proc
this message was sent by the rail gang
God that was cringe lol
||how do I get the hades trinket||?
||get your father to love you for who you are||
||well I just beat the game so way ahead of you but don't I need to give him some nectar|| ||I had some for him but he didn't take it||
I've been playing this game all day so I'm gonna take a break and play something else
well, in between housework
congrats!
i don't really feel like doing this but i've already maxed out distant memory so it can't be much worse
i take a break to grind call of duty lmao
I'm taking a break from hades cause my arm starts hurting :<
ya'll take breaks from playing hades?
distant memory was fine tbh
All the time. On average I play 1 or 2 runs a day
i play a few runs everyday on average but i try not to do too many
or
exhaust myself
Thing about distant memory, Idk where the range is.
but honestly ive made amazing progress ans played alot of hades so yeah
yeah it's confuse
i dont want to play so much and then feel empty
I limit myself to 1 hades run a day :<
i just started and did like 6 or so today
to savor it I put ||EM4||
i think as you go on
and get consistent clears
runs become alot more fulfilling
cause nothing feels better than having only one chance to play and miserably fail at the end >:DDDD
like at the start its like
yea i beat tartarus pretty often now
the ||skull crushers|| really piss me off
"ill do a clear with these weapons today for some resources and bounties then stop playing"
because like
they do vibe checks
i get alot of sfuff done in those runs
i once spent 7 hours banging my head against the final boss
its nice dying and talking to everyone hha
but i wanna GET OUT OF THIS HELL HOLE
now it's just "hmm which weapon shall i use to beat up ||daddy||"
i think honestly coming back into the house of hades is alot less stressful after having cleared it so many times
its like
"|| i may have died but another successful escape now i can vibe with people and spend some resources||"
probably don't click that as a new player
also spammy i agree it is like that also
point is gl with hades you'll probably get better as you go
College starts tomorrow, so I imagine I'll be lucky if I can even do that.
if you need to do alot of runs it's normal dw
does giving nectar to bouldy boost trust with sisyphus
no it just gives you a random boost throughout the run that ranges from very low to relatively low
i mean it's good if you just have nothing but excess nectar
yeah
which you probably will
i mean i have nothing ro do with my nectar now but cosmetics and trading
gl
thx
i gav him 5 nectars
i think
how much more till i get shady
i also am saving and ambrosia for him
Need to max him out
I wonder what the best hidden aspect is in everyone's eyes
Frost Fair Blade is always fun
I think ||Arthur|| may be the general concensus
hidden aspects are spoilers smh.,,
Would it be considered a spoiler?
There dad
I always felt like Nemesis was the best on Stygian
Crits for doing something you already do regularly
And a really good crit rate too
It is a nice crit chance
I didn't care about sword until I unlocked its hidden aspect
whats the best way to get chaos?
someone pick a weapon any weapon
||except spear||
hidden sword
Sw-spear
sword run it is, thanks truffle
hmm ima experiment cause I keep defaulting to heart rend
surely there's another viable build for it
Yeah I got one
I swear if you type spear
||Switch to GUN||
yup ima do a curse of nausea run ||arthur|| run cause... why not
dude EtG is amazing
I 100%'d EtG before i came into Hades
Does the hunters mark boon work against a single enemy/boss?
for some reason EtG just doesnt click for me
probably because im just bad at it lol
I can probably help with that
just use blanks lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111!!!!!!!
I mean yeah that's actually a big one

All the dangerous stuff can go away with a blank
ya probably i didnt utilize blank enough
Which char have you gotten the farthest with?
if the boss spawn adds, it should work
uhh the commando or something? the one with the helmet
we probably should move this to #video-games though 
ok

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