h1-discussion

[gritty roost]

my favourite is still Guilty Gear

[rancid vapor]

Yeah I'm not gonna hug dad with Chiron Aspect

[gritty roost]

dem soundtracks man

[modern quail]

pretty sure those are stone columns with snow on top

[manic bobcat]

No balls

[brazen lagoon]

ain't nothing wrong with that fam

[rancid vapor]

Unexpectedly people missed the point

[modern quail]

also artemis is definitely best olympian

[manic bobcat]

Yes

[modern quail]

with athena coming up as a close second

[brazen lagoon]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[craggy barn]

i'll hug dad with any aspect nothing you can do to stop me

[modern quail]

i'm also really fond of ares even though he's a psychopathic murderer

he's just so supportive

[brazen lagoon]

in game ares sounds fun af

[gritty roost]

Hermes is bro

[modern quail]

hermes is mah boi

[brazen lagoon]

irl greek mythos ares is absolutely awful

[manic bobcat]

Cousins*

Ew

[rancid vapor]

With Ares you can have a beer 5 minutes before you kill each other to death in the colosseum

[modern quail]

ares sounds like someone that's really good to have on your side

i kinda hate demeter

she's just completely evil

[rancid vapor]

No she's just go no chill

[brazen lagoon]

well she is kinda justified

[modern quail]

even if she does have an excellent mean old lady energy

ehhhh

[craggy barn]

i mean she believed she lost her child for the longest time

[rancid vapor]

And who's fault is that?

[manic bobcat]

.

[modern quail]

||blaming mortals with no evidence and punishing them with eternal winter?||

[severe smelt]

||Yeah Demeter gives off an evil stepmother wibe.||

[modern quail]

oh sorry

should i put spoilers on that?

[brazen lagoon]

||well you kinda have to blame zeus for the whole lost daughter thing||

[manic bobcat]

Yee

[brazen lagoon]

||since the guy literally whisked her off to hades||

[manic bobcat]

Also #h1-story-discussion

[severe smelt]

Adults should be able to take responsibility for their actions.

[brazen lagoon]

have you seen the olympians?

they dont take responsibility for anything lol

[severe smelt]

Tbh they kind of do.

[supple lodge]

still a much better guy compared to thunder man and fish man, at least

mytho ares was a supportive dad

[severe smelt]

Compared to some folks I had the misfortune to interact with IRL, ||many Olympians actually do eventually admit fault and culpability... which is just sad.||

[brazen lagoon]

its like comparing a serial killer with a murderer

[manic bobcat]

It's his job

[supple lodge]

ares is not good at his job though

[brazen lagoon]

sure the murderer's killed less people but he's still an ass

[manic bobcat]

It's like faulting a garbage man for working with garbage

[severe smelt]

I do find it funny that ||Zag thinks Ares and Achilles are awesome dudes.||

[brazen lagoon]

zeus and poseidon are the worst of the worst

[manic bobcat]

Achilles is awesome

[supple lodge]

ingame Achilles is technically supposed to be an older and wiser one

[rancid vapor]

Achilles is human, of course he's not perfect

[brazen lagoon]

the only kinda ok olympians are artemis and hephaestus

[severe smelt]

Achilles is just walking around to kill people to make a point, both historically and not.

[manic bobcat]

One of the few Greek heroes who didn't commit sexual assaults.

[brazen lagoon]

yeah now that you mention it most of the greek heroes are also pretty terrible

[manic bobcat]

Yup

[rancid vapor]

You often only hear their heroic deeds but they're jerks

[brazen lagoon]

heracles, theseus all of em

[severe smelt]

I think the game doesn't want to deal with the implications of all that so it just rolls with how those heroes and gods might have been perceived in that time period or by people who didn't think about it too hard. 😄

[rancid vapor]

"try to stop me if you can, oh you can't too bad"

[modern quail]

hey wait, hestia is chill

[brazen lagoon]

oh yeah forgot about her lol whoops

[modern quail]

well not chill since she's a goddess of the hearth but she never hurt anyone

[brazen lagoon]

like i'd imagine basically everyone on olympus did

[rancid vapor]

Lucifer is just a teenager who riots against his tyrannical dad, it's a fun interpretation

[supple lodge]

hermes is the loki of the pantheon does that count as horrible person or not

[modern quail]

i think in some versions of the myth she even gives prometheus fire? though i could be misremembering

if he's anything like the game version he's cool with me

[brazen lagoon]

i wouldn't say hermes is the loki of the pantheon

cause loki is absolutely terrible

and hermes is just kind of a troublemaker

[supple lodge]

i was thinking about marvel loki

[brazen lagoon]

marvel loki is not norse loki

[manic bobcat]

I'm not sure where Hades discussion ends and myth discussion starts tbh

[supple lodge]

yeah same hdvsv

[rancid vapor]

heresy

[brazen lagoon]

norse loki is off causing the end of all things

[supple lodge]

i cant even think about mythological loki anymore every time i hear the name loki i think ah yes the marvel funnyman

[manic bobcat]

Fenrir is a good boy

Just like Cerby

[severe smelt]

Hades whitewashes the stuff but the characters still do enough questionable things that they're not that great.

But the original mythology was definitely worse. 😄

[supple lodge]

i mean if you wanna write about greek mythology you really have to censor a lot of things

[rancid vapor]

Of course, you need untouchable gods to blame all the bad things humans do on

[brazen lagoon]

well fenrir does kill odin so i wouldnt really call him a good boy

[craggy barn]

what is it with popular people in greek mythology being the absolute worst

[manic bobcat]

Stories man

[brazen lagoon]

you have just described every greek hero ever

[severe smelt]

Making the worst people popular has been a thing for a while now... and still continues in 2021.

[supple lodge]

the greeks were into some weird stuff

thats my best guess

[manic bobcat]

No one wants to hear about a kind hearted grandma who died at her ripe old age

[severe smelt]

Got a lot of work to do on that.

Making the worst people popular has been a thing for a while now... and still continues in 2021.

[manic bobcat]

They want drama

[modern quail]

it's a mixture of values dissonance and also them being mostly oral traditions with innumerable contradictory interpretations

[manic bobcat]

Drama implies flaws

[supple lodge]

the chthonic gods are a really chill bunch for the most part

[modern quail]

so some portrayals are more sympathetic and others are more malicious

[rancid vapor]

power = corruption, look at genghis khan. The only thing that holds back regular people from doing everything he did is their lack of power.

[modern quail]

like how idunno

[supple lodge]

a breath of fresh air compared to the insane clown posse that is the olympians

[worldly canyon]

I mean in fairness didn't Fenrir kill Odin because he locked him up just in case he turned out to be a bad boy

[severe smelt]

The only thing that holds back regular people from doing everything he did is their lack of power.
[citation needed]

[modern quail]

let's say hundreds of years from now people are talking about batman

[rancid vapor]

Have you looked at american news recently?

[modern quail]

i imagine a lot of the more heroic and upstanding portrayals might blend together and get confused with the darker and more violent takes on the character

[brazen lagoon]

well i think odin had him tied up because he foresaw that fenrir would kill him when ragnarok came

[modern quail]

they did specify regular people

[rancid vapor]

You give people power, they'll become douchebags very quickly

[severe smelt]

I don't want to make this more political than it already is given this is a hades discussion channel

[supple lodge]

that is an interesting way of looking at it

[manic bobcat]

I mean that's a blanket statement still.

[severe smelt]

I don't want to make this more political than it already is given this is a hades discussion channel

but your statement is one that requires heavy evidence you did not present

[manic bobcat]

I mean that's a blanket statement still.

[rancid vapor]

That's an interesting way to shut me up. Suit yourself.

[manic bobcat]

I mean that's a blanket statement still.

[worldly canyon]

Which inevitably lead to him being killed by Fenrir because the Fates are naughty like that

[manic bobcat]

Laughs in George Washington

[supple lodge]

calm down mates

lets talk about how chill the underworld gods were in comparison to the olympians

[brazen lagoon]

yep. trying to prevent something only lead to it happening

[supple lodge]

like goddamn thanatos in myth was just an angsty guy stuck in a literal dead end job

[brazen lagoon]

underworld gods were just doing their jobs man

[craggy barn]

hypnos

[brazen lagoon]

they didn't have the time to go off sexing everything they saw

[worldly canyon]

Greek and Norse mythology is really interesting tbh, I need to get a few books of them

[supple lodge]

hypnos was called the gentlest of the gods

[craggy barn]

hypnos supremacy

[modern quail]

he isn't very gentle after i get killed by a spike trap or whatever else

[worldly canyon]

Hypnos just wants to grill

[supple lodge]

does your hypnos chokeslam you every time you get back

i dont think hes supposed to do that

have you reported bug by pressong f10

[modern quail]

he chokeslams me

with his words

[supple lodge]

he also says the same thing to meg

dont worry

[modern quail]

i know not to stand on the spikes, man

[worldly canyon]

I liked the time early on where I somehow died to one of the underworld brutes or whatever you call them and Hypnos just roasted me

[manic bobcat]

Just git gud mate

[modern quail]

i just dodged to the wrong place

[supple lodge]

at least you can take his advice

meg on the other hand

she does not dodge

[worldly canyon]

'Have you tried dodging yet?'

[brazen lagoon]

'wow you stepped on a spike trap? have you tried not stepping on one?'

[manic bobcat]

Skelly also gives really 4head advice

To be fair

[craggy barn]

alecto doesn't try to avoid the spike traps

[modern quail]

poor meg stuck in her boss pattern 😔

[manic bobcat]

Just dash more boyo

[supple lodge]

hypnos to meg be like: have you tried evading zagreus

[modern quail]

there's nothing sadder than being a videogame boss

[supple lodge]

at least meg gets to smooch zag

[worldly canyon]

If you hit things more, they will hurt

[modern quail]

tru

[supple lodge]

alecto needs hypnos advice

[manic bobcat]

Do you mean they play boardgame together?

[supple lodge]

yes

boardgame and smooch

[manic bobcat]

Ah

Do you think Zag serenade people with the lyre?

[worldly canyon]

So please don't spoil me but if I beat the game enough do I get a special ending

[modern quail]

i think hades managed to be really true to the myths without shortchanging them

ye

[manic bobcat]

Yes

[worldly canyon]

Class

[modern quail]

zeus feels more like the mythological zeus than say a disneyfied version

[supple lodge]

@modern quail if you ever feel bad about hypnos saying 5head things to you, consider it consolation that hypnos, canonically, has gotten bonked by charons oar

[modern quail]

but while still being likable and charismatic

[worldly canyon]

Also I took the Hera Bow on this run

Damn where has this been all my life

[manic bobcat]

In the courtyard?

[craggy barn]

did hypnos really take charon's money

[supple lodge]

i just think he tried to give charon 5head advice

being ||hades himself|| sounds pretty depressing

guy has to ||do paperwork all day and is basically underworld customer support||

[modern quail]

my top gods ranking

1. artemis(a delightful ace cottagecore lesbian)
2. athena(a friggin neeeeeeeeeeerd)
3. hermes(a true bro)
4. dionysis(himbo)

[maiden belfry]

you forget the best part of artemis

Achilles fangirl

[modern quail]

oh yeah i love this game's portrayal of achilles

[manic bobcat]

Ace lesbian

[supple lodge]

Chill achilles

[modern quail]

asexual but not aromantic

[manic bobcat]

Fair ig

[maiden belfry]

the funniest damn thing int he game

[fierce spoke]

how is that even a spoiler

[modern quail]

so like cuddling ladies but not doing the do

which is Valid

[supple lodge]

it gives you a hint of who the final boss is

[manic bobcat]

Yeah ig i can see that

[maiden belfry]

is athena and artemis aphro boons

[worldly canyon]

I like Artemis

[modern quail]

aphrodite should be in horny jail with zeus

[eager hollow]

Hey guys i just finished to romance magaera. On her keepsake there is like an emblem of her? What does it do?

[worldly canyon]

Mostly because she's not || a sex pest like most of the other gods ||

[supple lodge]

Poseidon should also go to horny jail

[fierce spoke]

but him doing paperwork is litterally first 15 minutes content

[manic bobcat]

Precisely nothing

[maiden belfry]

coronacht is eros's bow isnt it

[modern quail]

honestly i think hades likes doing paperwork

[eager hollow]

Perfect loo

[maiden belfry]

just means youre REALLY close with her, you can actualyl get oen for everyone as long as you max thier affinity

[lyric wharf]

I mean, look at Sans from Undertale.

[eager hollow]

So it has no effect right?

[manic bobcat]

No gameplay effect

It just signifies that you achieve max affinity with that character

[maiden belfry]

just cute icon

[brazen lagoon]

does absolutely nothing

[maiden belfry]

[eager hollow]

Does any god have a boon that makes your casts come back to you directly?

[manic bobcat]

As someone else pointed out, you can jave that with everyone

[maiden belfry]

yes

hermes

[manic bobcat]

Including and especially Cerby

[maiden belfry]

its one of his legendaries

[worldly canyon]

I read Troy by Stephen Fry recently and it sounds like everyone and their mum has a god in their lineage somewhere

[eager hollow]

Thanks guys

[manic bobcat]

Greater Recall?

I think it's called.

[maiden belfry]

side note, opent he codex, you can see the boons for the gods

[eager hollow]

Thanks m8

[maiden belfry]

and the requirements if it has any

[modern quail]

i feel like it drops off pretty quickly

[supple lodge]

this makes me wonder what accursed greek god would be my ancestor

[eager hollow]

Thanks again ahahah im new to the game. Just slayed hades on heat 10

[modern quail]

being a half god is pretty good

[supple lodge]

im placing bets on dionysus

[modern quail]

a quarter god is meh

once you get to eighths or sixteenths you'll at best have weird hair

[brazen lagoon]

is there a god of disappointment

[manic bobcat]

Doesn't compute

[supple lodge]

yes and his name is zeus

[brazen lagoon]

ew no

[maiden belfry]

"come on man....again?"

[eager hollow]

What?

[maiden belfry]

everyone after zeus's 45345'th illegitmate child

[brazen lagoon]

"new player" "killed hades on 10 heat"

sure bud

[supple lodge]

In Greek mythology, Oizys (/ˈoʊɪzɪs/; Ancient Greek: Ὀϊζύς) is the goddess of misery, anxiety, grief, and depression.

[eager hollow]

Should i show my save file?

[modern quail]

did you start on hell mode?

[fierce spoke]

both parents are half gods and all you get is flying leaves and weird hair

[eager hollow]

I boufht the game 8 days ago

[modern quail]

that unlocks certain features from the beginning

[brazen lagoon]

oh hell yeah that's my greek ancestor

[manic bobcat]

a) name of final boss is spoiler here
b) 10 heat and new player are different things.

[eager hollow]

Nono i started normally

[brazen lagoon]

seeing how i seem to bring misery to everyone just by me appearing

[eager hollow]

Sorry I didn’t know about the spoiler. Owning the game for less than 10
Days isn’t being new?

[lyric wharf]

Yeah 10 heat is definitely not new player.

Well depends.

Well yeah new player.

What heat did you enable btw ?

[maiden belfry]

the boss spoiler is fair, but they could have just ogtten the game down really quick and played through to heat pretty fast

[supple lodge]

its better than making people sleep just by you appearing

[maiden belfry]

[manic bobcat]

You graduated to mid level player for practical intent and purposes.

[worldly canyon]

How about this: chronologicaly new player but gameplay-wise relatively experienced?

[manic bobcat]

New is like pre first clear usually

[lyric wharf]

Saying "x heat" is vague in terms of difficulty, you dont know if its easy or hard settings.

[fierce spoke]

damn i've been playing since the early access and i didn't beat him with 10 heat

[eager hollow]

Oh sorry

[maiden belfry]

[worldly canyon]

I did a 1 heat run this morning where the only difference was || Meg had her sisters || loool

[fierce spoke]

[maiden belfry]

oh speaking of that

[lyric wharf]

@eager hollow What heat settings did you enable btw ?

[maiden belfry]

i have a question but its going in #h1-story-discussion

[eager hollow]

Let me check my switch. One sec

[lyric wharf]

I'm doing runs with ||AP2|| to get more familiar with boons I wouldn't play with in the first place.

[modern quail]

i thought those were spoilers?

[manic bobcat]

Read the pins here

Just keep the heat talk short essentially

For extended stuff please mask it

[modern quail]

kk

[craggy barn]

the word "heat" being a spoiler here really doesn't make much sense since there's a channel called #h1-high-heat-strategies right there

[manic bobcat]

Funny eh

[eager hollow]

I have max jury summons, max heighten security and extreme measures at 3

[lyric wharf]

Also I'm doing ||AP2|| runs to find out boons that could work together.

I see.

That's pretty good for someone that just started the game, are you used to play Roguelike games ?

[eager hollow]

This is my first one

I’m just good at games in general

[maiden belfry]

[eager hollow]

Omegachad

[lyric wharf]

Impressive.

[brazen lagoon]

😑

[eager hollow]

What

[modern quail]

you have power mangusta

use it well

[eager hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-star-wars-gif-10270127

[modern quail]

yeah, like that

[stiff summit]

I feel so dumb having misread dark foresight all this time

I thought it was increased chance for blue wreaths lol

[manic bobcat]

Lmao

[craggy barn]

why would you even want more blue laurels

over golden laurels

[eager hollow]

What is a laurel??

[craggy barn]

https://hades.gamepedia.com/Chambers_and_Encounters#:~:text=Gold Laurels represent rewards that,to be of higher rarity.

[eager hollow]

Ooohh the reward preview?

[craggy barn]

certain room rewards are associated with either blue or gold laurels

[maiden belfry]

wait have i nver noticed this

[craggy barn]

stuff that impacts the current run like boons, coins, hearts etc

[eager hollow]

Yeah teah I didn’t know the name of it thanks m8

[craggy barn]

while blue laurels are basically currency you use outside of runs like darkness, gemstones and keys (and nectar)

[manic bobcat]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/520688402958516254/660997121406926849/hades_room_rewards_guide.png

Tiny but outdated guide but still work

[maiden belfry]

what does it say about me that chaos is really attractive to me

[supple lodge]

it says that you are a person of culture

[maiden belfry]

oh good i thought it was the monsterfricker in me rising to the surface once again

i think artemis's call is the only one i refuse to use if its not at greater

[manic bobcat]

I would add Aphrodite to that list tbh

[maiden belfry]

as i typed that i thought ot myslef "what does greater aphro even do"

[granite ether]

a truck tonne of damage (2500)

[manic bobcat]

Also known as a Bat(tie) ton of damage

[maiden belfry]

ive been told battie is good damage

but man

i dont wanna spend ambrosia that could be blood

[manic bobcat]

Get Battie

It's worth

[maiden belfry]

how much is it to max a companion agaoin?

[manic bobcat]

15(+1)

[maiden belfry]

how is battie better than mort

[manic bobcat]

Easier to use

Mort can miss a lot of the time

[maiden belfry]

truew

but yknow whats worse than missing

mistiming an impervious

[manic bobcat]

Megging a DC heart also hurts

[maiden belfry]

i have decided aspect of hestia is my least favorite aspect

well

it or ||beowulf||

[lusty crown]

Only kinda related to hades but I finished listening to hadestown and I liked it a lot lol

[maiden belfry]

thats the uhhh

greek mythesque musical?

[lyric wharf]

Hera bow maxed.

[maiden belfry]

i like that one alot now that i actually know cast builds

[lyric wharf]

I have 35 titan bloods beside but only maxing weapons I use a lot.

[maiden belfry]

aka, get artemis cast, exit wounds and mirage shot

[lyric wharf]

Yeah its amazing.

I'm more into Trippy Shot/Ice Wine and recently Crush Shot.

[maiden belfry]

what is crush again

[lyric wharf]

Aphrodite cast, inflict weak.

[rotund crystal]

When did Hades pick up momentum? (In terms of popularity)

[maiden belfry]

ah yeah

[rotund crystal]

I swear it’s only been the past 2-3 weeks where it grew hard

[lyric wharf]

Attacking Skelly and he's like "Don't do it" I mean, isn't that what he signed for ?

[maiden belfry]

man

im not the only one that gets athena and then goes "maaaan, this sucks" when no dash boon right

[wicked folio]

What weapon we all main

[maiden belfry]

apparently its railgun for me bc its what i have the most clears with

[wicked folio]

I like gun shield and fists the most currently

[maiden belfry]

even thought i started by hating it

[wicked folio]

But I have my clears with Fists, spear and gun

It’s gonna be such a grind getting all the contractor upgrades

[sudden rapids]

is hades going to get more content in the future?

or is the game done updating as is

wait

[maiden belfry]

it would be unlikely as Supergiant doesnt often update thier games majorly after the release

[sudden rapids]

weepin what you doin here

[maiden belfry]

[sudden rapids]

a weapons dlc would be fun

[wicked folio]

Dlc is confirmed

Wait it isnt

[maiden belfry]

not that i was aware of but i could be wrong

however i would enjoy its especially since the empty spots int eh keepsake cabinet TAUNT ME

[wicked folio]

I’m missing 2 keepsakes and I cant figure out wtf they are

[maiden belfry]

do you have a screenshot you can post in #h1-story-discussion

[wicked folio]

My guy has 140 hours damn

Im now loading

[maiden belfry]

teehee

[wicked folio]

I got like 16 😳

[maiden belfry]

just dont look at my warframe hours

[jolly laurel]

do i have to beat a run with a weapon before i can turn up the heat and earn all the bounties again?

[hexed shore]

Yes

[jolly laurel]

ah i see, just needed to confirm, thanks

[sudden rapids]

Kinda like how ror2 is doing it rn would be fun

[wicked folio]

dionysus uwu

[maiden belfry]

himbo

sisiphyus too

[rancid vapor]

||Bouldy|| best girl.
||https://i.imgur.com/GpE4Sbe.png||

[maiden belfry]

whats the worse enemy

strongbow or greatshield

[craggy barn]

greatshield

definitely greatshield

all of the exalted shades suck in general don't get me wrong

but greatshields are just eww

[maiden belfry]

exaltades with damage control

how spoilery is it for me to say the names of the hidden aspects here

[brazen lagoon]

greatshields make me want to rip my eyes out

hate em with a passion

[maiden belfry]

especially if youre using a ranged weapon

just like

come on man

[brazen lagoon]

armored ones are hell

they block all your attacks and when you get close they do the stupid spinny thing

[maiden belfry]

armored ones WITH DAMAGE CONTROL

pain

[brazen lagoon]

elysium is only pain

[maiden belfry]

i now understand why artemis has god gauge filler boons

[brazen lagoon]

why

[maiden belfry]

bc using her call without it being greater is pain

so they make it easier to fill with her own boons

im kidna mad i didnt get either artemis duos i wanted this run

the dio and demeter ones

[brazen lagoon]

true true

[maiden belfry]

mainly bc im using lucifer

[brazen lagoon]

her greater call kills anything and everything

[maiden belfry]

and have demeter cast

so its just LAZORS everywhere

bc having dio's would be cool if only bc easier critys

if im remembering that boon right

[craggy barn]

i gotta try that laser lightshow build

[maiden belfry]

its so fun

[craggy barn]

achilles would probably be the best aspect for it because it makes the lasers to stupid dmg

[maiden belfry]

i just like it with lucifer

bc more lazors

damn was close to my first finshed run with full death defiance

[hexed shore]

Great shield is hilarious when you have armor pene

Especially on rail

They just keep their shield up and walk towards you while eating every bullet you ever shot

[maiden belfry]

one day ill get fish in the last area

and chaos

deadass about to only have conch sbhell on

and pray for the poseidon legendary

[hexed shore]

Are you on pc?

[maiden belfry]

yeah

but idrc to mod

[hexed shore]

What I do is cover the bobber with my thumb and wait to see the light

[maiden belfry]

oh

my timing is fine

[hexed shore]

Much easier to get the perfect catch if I'm not distracted by fakes

[maiden belfry]

its just getting them to spawn

in those two areas

[hexed shore]

I mean the window is like 0.35 seconds?

[maiden belfry]

ive been trained to fish with by the most intense training possible

animal crossing

[hexed shore]

I came from stardew

Doesn't translate as well

[maiden belfry]

real talk, it feels easier to time it on controller

[hexed shore]

It is

You have vibrations

[unborn anchor]

Bait being taken has a very distinctive sound cue. Just take it as a moment to rest your eyes and wait for the bloop.

[craggy barn]

one thing to know that if the first 3 bobs are false the 4th one is always going to hit

[maiden belfry]

hmm

what weapon to take if im spamming for poseidon legendary

whats best with him rather

might just take his sword and try for artemis duos

[unborn anchor]

Any weapon except rail and maybe hidden spear should be able to play nice with knockback effects.

[gritty roost]

hmm wiki said it wont proc with normal attacks

so prob dash-strike sword with poseidon dash?

just finished another run with Hera bow

[maiden belfry]

i meant the poseidon legendary that helps fishing

[gritty roost]

it's so awesome asfhakjshdf

[unborn anchor]

it means it doesnt work for normal weapon attacks, but if you have poseidon attack boon, it works

[craggy barn]

going with a broseidon build on zag rail is actually really good

[supple lodge]

supersoaker time

[craggy barn]

it's a safer way of using the rail because you're constantly pushing the enemies back and with all of the t2 boons you can slap on it, it can get crazy

especially in styx

[maiden belfry]

vermin poison

[craggy barn]

it's generally okay at the start but it's the potential it has that makes it better than zeus imo

[unborn anchor]

I can see how it easily smashes normal enemies, but fighting bosses with that is going to be a slog

[maiden belfry]

ive only recenlty realzied how broken zeus legendary can be

[craggy barn]

that's why you should get the t2 boons, it can only really shine that way

if you get sea storm it should pretty much be gg

[meager steppe]

Good morning (afternoon or night). Joined team switch in December and picked up Hades on sale. Loving it. Escaped for the first time last night with my first plume run. Got really lucky with boons offered.

[brazen lagoon]

glad you're enjoying it!

[craggy barn]

join the lambent plume club

[meager steppe]

I under estimated it for sure. Got the Hermès boon where extra speed equals damage.

But the lightning rod boon helped a ton as well.

[craggy barn]

it works well with sword or fists

specifically the zag aspects

lightning rod and scintillating feast are great

[meager steppe]

Yup! I ran fists. But not the zag version. The magnetic uppercut one.

[maiden belfry]

talos is fun

[craggy barn]

if you're using 3 casts lightning rod can deal lots of damage on its own

[maiden belfry]

big fan of demeters lately

[craggy barn]

i like zag over the other aspect mainly because it's the only one i've maxed

[meager steppe]

I’m pretty fresh. So I’ve not maxed any.

[craggy barn]

talos is nice and demeter does phat damage

thicc 310+ damage on demeter though 😩 👌

[maiden belfry]

the onyl one where i genuinely prefer the zag aspect over any others on it

is gun

[craggy barn]

i should try nemesis

[meager steppe]

I know the general advice is, keep doing the same thing, but does anyone have advice after my first escape?

[craggy barn]

30% crit chance for a few seconds whenever you use special can mean a lot

[meager steppe]

Especially with triple bomb

[craggy barn]

triple bomb + targeting system is good

cluster bomb is generally better in that case

[meager steppe]

Haven’t tried that one yet.

[craggy barn]

you can also try using the ||pact to add some spice|| to your subsequent runs

[meager steppe]

I have been watching a lot of jawless Paul and Mattsimus videos on YouTube. Those two guys put out really solid content. Helped a lot.

[wicked folio]

Aye shield run done

[meager steppe]

Nice

[wicked folio]

That was my fastest run too

[meager steppe]

I was hoping to wait on ||pact|| until I get some more escapes.

[craggy barn]

if you ever feel your runs are a little too long you can try turning on ||tight deadline||, it's certainly helped me since my runs have gone from 30+ minutes to 20 minutes or less

[meager steppe]

Still farming darkness pretty heavily, so I’m using lots of different weapons.

I’ll try tight deadline though. I know the butterfly made me a bit more cautious so that might also help.

[wicked folio]

20 runs with 4 successful

[craggy barn]

nice 😳

i only got my first clear at 27 runs

[hexed shore]

See the thing is I get so twitchy waiting for the fish that I always hit on the first fake

[lyric wharf]

Another ||EM4|| clear with Hera bow, along ||HL3+TD2, 16 heat run.||

I killed ||Hades|| with Killing Freeze and ||Demeter|| said something, that was nice.

[warped iron]

pretty sure ||Demeter|| has a voiceline whenever you kill a boss with that boon

💭

[lyric wharf]

I actually only used 1 DD against ||Hades||.

Oh that's nice.

I also unlocked the hidden bow aspect during that run, I'm gonna try it.

[craggy barn]

i think ||demeter|| only says something if you kill a boss with ||winter harvest||, not ||killing freeze||

[rich acorn]

Dang I got my clear after 45 runs

[craggy barn]

gg

[wicked folio]

Im on 21 runs with 5 clears

[lyric wharf]

I'm not looking how to unlock hidden aspects, its nice to find out by yourself.

[wicked folio]

Been using max upgraded zagreus aspect fists with feather keepsake, very op

[craggy barn]

well it sure is gonna take a while in that case

[lyric wharf]

Oh yeah I confused boon but yes that was ||Winter Harvest.||

[craggy barn]

getting a ||winter harvest|| kill on a boss gives me dopamine

[rich acorn]

How do you get those legendary boons?

[craggy barn]

there are prerequisites

[wicked folio]

Im not using guides for anything in this game

[craggy barn]

you can open the codex and go to an olympian gods' page then press b to open up their boons menu which gives information on all of their boons

[wicked folio]

Im 17 hours in and just got my first hidden aspect

[maiden belfry]

which one

[craggy barn]

i'm betting it's the ||spear||

[rich acorn]

What is “pulsing” damage?

[maiden belfry]

pulses outwards in waves

i assume you mean like with the ares/poseidon duo

[rich acorn]

I don’t think it’s that, I’m thinking of the flaring spin upgrade on the spear

[maiden belfry]

same thing

[craggy barn]

yeah

[maiden belfry]

just a flash of damage that comes out from you

repeatedly

[rich acorn]

I see

So I’m thinking that a lot of the spin upgrades together on the hades spear would be sort of busted

And then adding Athena’s deflection attack would make it even better

[brisk trail]

If I had a $1 for every time I found a build that seems busted...

[hexed shore]

What did you make

I end up forcing the same build on every weapon cause I love my fav gods too much

[lyric wharf]

About the bow hidden aspect, the more enemies affected by your special = the more damage from it when you attack ?

[maiden belfry]

i dont think so?

[lyric wharf]

Actually the more damage you do = more damage from special, attacking many enemies at the same time does more damage.

Seems like it.

[brisk trail]

Ares = objectively the most based God.

[maiden belfry]

ok i tried

[brazen lagoon]

Artemis*

[hexed shore]

Aphro simps riseup

[brisk trail]

I find it that Doom/Merciful End builds are faster than Crit builds.

[brazen lagoon]

No but artemis is just objectively better

[meager steppe]

Aren’t you doom gated then?

Like you have to apply and trigger and apply?

[grave cloud]

Why is the Eris Rail so widely used for speedrunning, and how do people clear rooms so quickly with it? It feels so mediocre.

[hexed shore]

Artemis has best duos it's true

[meager steppe]

As opposed to crit builds which can spam attacks for three or more times the damage

[brisk trail]

How? +200% of 0 is still 0 😉

[lyric wharf]

Every weapons are good if you know how to use them.

[brisk trail]

no god is objectively better than the other. Each has some strengh that works with some build, with some playstyle... so it's really subjective depending on how you want to play

[hexed shore]

Eris is +75% global damage@grave cloud

It's insanely good

[brazen lagoon]

Wrong

[lyric wharf]

^

[brazen lagoon]

0 +200% = 0(200%)

[worldly canyon]

So maybe it's just cos I haven't put on any difficulty modifiers but Hera's bow + festive fog was kinda tasty

Melted bosses for me

[meager steppe]

I have to disagree with them all being equal. They can all bu used for builds but some are just easier to work with because of early boons and likelihood of getting the synergies in later boons.

[lyric wharf]

Its indeed a great cast with Hera bow, even better with Ice Wine.

[worldly canyon]

Poor Asterius was eaten within like a minute thanks to it

[brazen lagoon]

I understand but artemis is still better

[meager steppe]

I’ve not unlocked cast aspects yet. Looking forward to it.

Artemis also can be mained or works exceedingly well as an ancillary piece.

[haughty cape]

Artemis doesn't feel that strong to me

[brisk trail]

i don't say they are equal, just that you don't have one that is objectively better than other. Some maybe easier, but after some try on gods that i considered to be weak, you can still make devastating build with them (i think i melted the final boss faster than i ever did before with a build like that). You may find some better to your taste, and that's normal (i do too), but that doesn't mean they are objectively better

[worldly canyon]

The other gods are cool but can they crit? Didn't think so

[meager steppe]

@brisk trail semantics, but sure.

[brazen lagoon]

Exactly

And also are the other gods THAT cool? Didn't think so

[lyric wharf]

To each their preferences.

[brisk trail]

i think it's more than semantics; it's just knowing what you find better or not depend on your playstyle, and can change a lot from 1 player to another

[brazen lagoon]

Yall are taking this way too seriously lol

All the gods are great

I just like artemis more because I think she's really cool

It's not because of her boons I just like her lol

[brittle lantern]

Can I bring an issue w/ the game's SteamAPI integration to the attention of developers? You are running a loop that issues SteamAPI_RunCallbacks (...) at absolutely ludicrous rates, it's causing a flood of context switches and creating a ton of unnecessary CPU overhead. Callbacks should be limited to framerate ideally, even when there's no work to be done, the act of running the callbacks does some IPC between the Steam client and the game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoDuy1wbEzQ

[fickle aspen]

Anyone know where I can find a clip of the old aspect of chaos before it was changed where the shields would go all over the place?

[brazen lagoon]

You'd probably wanna go to #h1-tech-fixes or #h1-tech-support for this

[meager steppe]

I’m still pretty new but it feels like you kinda have your quick attack gods (Demeter, dio, Zeus), your heavy attack gods (ares, aphro, pos) and then the rest are enhancements (Hermès, art, Athena)

Ideally, I’d like at least one from each section.

Might just be my play style.

[brittle lantern]

Alright, thank you. I didn't need support so much as wanted to pass this technical info along.

[brisk trail]

Artemis and Athena can also be used as heavy attack

[meager steppe]

Appreciate it. Seems oddly specific and technical though for a general discussion channel.

[brisk trail]

and i usually mix them just to target some duo boon i want

[meager steppe]

Yes. Thus the “enhancement” tag.

[brisk trail]

and Hermes is in a odd spot, it can't really be considered as other gods (as you have 2-3 boons from him everyrun; and he doesn't count in the 4 gods rules)

[meager steppe]

You can main them, but I find they work much better when you use their boons to enhance your boons from another attack.

[brisk trail]

for athena it's often the case, but for artemis you can use her as main damage dealer (with aphrodite as support it's really strong for exemple)

[meager steppe]

I also have to admit that my 1st and only escape thus far relied pretty heavily on Hermès and art

[brisk trail]

Dual-boon door or Hammer door?

This choice always hurts my feelings.

[fresh crest]

I always go hammer

Depends on what your build needs I guess, if you're looking for a specific boon or a hammer, but usually hammer is a good choice

[rancid vapor]

is this offensive...?
||https://i.imgur.com/PUNmFjL.png||

[lyric wharf]

||EM4|| run clear on my first time using ||Rama|| bow, the bow is really nice, doom on special with Dire Misfortune is awesome.

[hexed shore]

Depends on where you are @brisk trail

Hammer in asphodel or latter half of elysium

[candid veldt]

I want dlc

[fresh crest]

Could be cool but I think they said they we never planning to release any

Was thinking about maybe making a Hades Discord bot at some point but I have no idea what I'd make it for 😂

[lyric wharf]

Hammer is always priority, and remember that dual boons room doesnt give duo boons and you wont get high quality from them.

[gritty roost]

in the mood for some Ares doom build lol. probably with Merciful End. what weapons would you guys recommend?

[lyric wharf]

Bow with doom on special.

[fresh crest]

Or Hades spear, I've been finding that so fun

[lyric wharf]

I'm going for a ||Rama|| bow run again and I'll chose the first god I see each time, I'm trying to expand my horizons and be more familiars with gods and boon combinations I usually dont use that much.

[gritty roost]

im not too fond of hades spear

how about hidden sword or achilles?

[hushed schooner]

hades spear is great

it demolishes the barge of death

like you charge it up as enemies come in and deal so much damage

especially if you have a good spin hammer

[lyric wharf]

I dont really like Hades spear but I want to look more into sweeps.

[gritty roost]

lets try it with Achilles

[brisk trail]

Anything with a good dash attack (fist is great, shield or sword can also work...) put Ares and attack, and use athena dash.

[craggy barn]

you also need divine flourish from athena to actually get merciful end

[lyric wharf]

I'm really enjoying ||Rama|| bow.

[craggy barn]

also known as: aspect of big damage

[lyric wharf]

If you know how to use it yeah.

I didn't expect to finish ||EM4|| on my first run with it.

[waxen juniper]

You're right about the duos, but not necessarily the high quality. Duos tend to be when the gods want you to switch weapons for their heroic boons

Plus, you can get legendaries in trials.

[waxen juniper]

Depends. If you are playing a cast build, there really isn't much reason to have a hammer.

[lyric wharf]

Oh, well I've heard about that in a video so I dont know but otherwise the rest of the video was really informative, also discussed maths about damage and such.

It also explained how the gods randomization works.

[brisk trail]

i have seen a similar video, but with some wrong bit in it. for exemple saying that you are sure to get a replacement boon in these trials of the god (in my experience, that's not true).

[lyric wharf]

The video you watched was from who ?

[brisk trail]

i don't remember

[craggy barn]

you are most definitely not guaranteed to get exchanges in trial of the gods

[lyric wharf]

I've heard what you just said in a Jawless Paul video, saying that the 2nd god in trials will offer a replacement if you chosen a tier 1 boon with the first god.

[lyric wharf]

I guess that its less likely to get high quality maybe ?

[brisk trail]

i'm pretty sure i allready have a run where it wasn't true. But maybe you get a high chance for that.

[lyric wharf]

Yes its probably higher chance.

[brisk trail]

and for rarity; from my experience it seems like a normal room (so you don't have highter probability like a miniboss room); but i don't think it's worse than that.

[lyric wharf]

By mini boss do you mean elite or actual mini bosses ?

[brisk trail]

but still, to come back to the initial point: i would often pick an hammer before dual boons (except on cast build, or if i really need some boons).

[lyric wharf]

Elite enemies boon room has better chance to have higher quality boons.

[brisk trail]

anything with a thing that indicate a better reward on the door, yes.

[waxen juniper]

Since the encounter has a skull under it, the rewards are doubled.

So the boons give increased rarity chance like they would in Erebus

[lyric wharf]

Yes the skull means elite, not mini boss, mini boss is like Asterius alone.

[waxen juniper]

Which also has a skull under it

[lyric wharf]

Well yes.

[waxen juniper]

Skull rooms give better rewards than others

So miniboss rooms give an upgraded rarity chance for that boon

[lyric wharf]

Oh that's nice.

[waxen juniper]

Since duos have that skull on them as well, they get that same upgraded rarity chance for both boons.

[lyric wharf]

Oh so that's why.

I was wondering about that yeah since trials rooms has both non skull and skull, thank you for the info.

[waxen juniper]

You bet

[lyric wharf]

I also learned that the shop boons dont have higher chance for higher quality boons.

[winter harbor]

You can’t get duos in trials but you can still get legendaries

[blazing field]

Me: hmmm maybe i should try Twin Fists?
Also me after 3 runs with them (+1 heat after each one): haha win streak goes brrr

[lyric wharf]

Well ||Rama|| bow is that strong, I killed tiny vermin pretty fast with it.

||EM4|| run clear back to back both with ||Rama|| bow, its definitely that good.

I'll go with another weapon, I've got better at dodging ||EM4 Hades|| as well.

Also using ||Hades call|| against ||Hades|| is funny, Zagreus be like ||"Father !" and Hades be like "What ?!" or "I'm here !"||

[loud lintel]

so this is either a bug or an error in this wiki

https://hades.gamepedia.com/Dionysus

says here trippy flare is exclusive to ||aspect of beo||

but i just got it on my run with hera bow

[craggy barn]

trippy flare is considered different from trippy shot

...for obvious reasons

[loud lintel]

yeah i know, but i got flare on my run despite not using beo aspect

[craggy barn]

did you check the name

[loud lintel]

yeah its flare and not shot

[craggy barn]

[brisk trail]

i did a Hera run with dio cast yesterday, i just checked and it was called shot and not flare for me, so as it's supposed to be.

[loud lintel]

it definitely says flare for me

[craggy barn]

[loud lintel]

yeah just submitted it.
also i havent unlocked ||beo aspect|| yet but the flare fog seems bigger than shot fog

[prisma wind]

What version number are you on, Proto?

[loud lintel]

how do i check that?

im on steam btw

[prisma wind]

It displays on the main menu

Upper right corner

[loud lintel]

v1.37133

[prisma wind]

[rich acorn]

How far is "Distant" with the distant memory keepsake?

[waxen juniper]

People have found out that the tip of the spear attack is the distance needed

[rich acorn]

How about the range of the rail?

[waxen juniper]

I don't know. It's the same distance.

[lyric wharf]

Talking about that I wonder if Sniper Shot is worth it, the distance shown for the bonus damage looks way too far.

[waxen juniper]

The distance is too inconsistent to pull off to be worth it

[lyric wharf]

Like near the screen edge is too far and combat is usually close ranged even with bow.

It'd be nice if the distance was less far.

[waxen juniper]

I do not know many people that will disagree with you.

[lyric wharf]

Plus the fact that enemies usually moves fast so the time needed to get away from them and then waiting to charge the bow they're already moving out.

[waxen juniper]

Well, just dash strike. Powershots are much faster.

[craggy barn]

also sniper shot and distant memory are useless in styx

speaking of useless hammers what is it with the anvil always taking away the GOOD upgrade instead of the bad\useless one

[lyric wharf]

This is a risk to take, Roguelike games often have this kind of feature, risk to get something good or else it can turns out really bad.

[ivory geode]

idk where this would go but
i know it's just The Way Cattle Look but asterius's eyes (or, eye, i guess, since only the one is visible in his talksprite) remind me of crying cat

also i'm curious why he's called asterius and not asterion? it's not, like, a problem, i just Find It A Bit Odd

[misty harbor]

Is there a particular set of conditions when Zag says "in the name of someone very sore right now"?

[fleet acorn]

i think its just random

[sour sky]

Is the anvil only available in Styx btw?

That’s the only place I’ve seen it

[gritty roost]

ye

[fleet acorn]

yeah

[sour sky]

Ah

[fleet acorn]

sometimes its replaced by a hermes boon

[gritty roost]

havent seen one in my last 5+ run

[sour sky]

Last time I used it, it got rid of some stupid shotgun upgrade I had for the rail

So that was nice

[willow token]

So does each run have a chosen set of gods that you'll keep seeing? Or does the RNG just tend to feel that way?

[rich acorn]

Does doom count as a status effect?

[gritty roost]

there's a "god pool" for every run

yes

i think it's 4?

[sour sky]

I thought it depended on what your first boon you grabbed was

[ivory geode]

for the purposes of privileged status n stuff? yeah

[willow token]

Is the god pool affected by using their keepsakes? Like if I start a run with the poseidon one, does that force poseidon into the pool?

[sour sky]

And then it just gave you boons from the same god more often

[fleet acorn]

doom is a status curse iirc, so yeah

it activates priv status

[waxen juniper]

Yes it is a status curse

[gritty roost]

weak, ruptured, hangover, marked, jolted, exposed, doom, chill

[brisk trail]

the god pool isn't really fixed. The game will usually not offer you more than 4 gods, but you can force more using a keepsakes (or i allready got more just randomly).

[gritty roost]

I THINK, it's yes for the first (4?) pick. but you can always force another god by using keepsakes

cmiiw

[rich acorn]

Thanks, does blood frenzy stack with each defience used?

[brisk trail]

i think the way the game works is that it won't give you a new god if you allready picked 4 gods; unless you force a new god with a keepsake

[ivory geode]

i think it's theoretically possible for you to have all of them? cuz the wiki says that if you have boons from all the olympians then theseus's call will default to artemis but idk if that was figured out legitimately or what

[brisk trail]

but i already got offer my 4th and 5 gods without keepsake, it can work if the game offer you both at the same time (one was buyable in a shop, the other was a reward for next room).

[prisma wind]

It is possible to get them all, yes. That's even the topic of one of the monthly challenges going on currently

[brisk trail]

having all of them is possible, but having all of them against Theseus ?

[ivory geode]

AGHHH CURSE YOU ZAGREUS AND YOUR OPEN-TOED SHOES (i'm drawing him sdfhjlkdsfhj)

[prisma wind]

That's a bit of an edge case and requires you to reach Theseus early in a save before all the gods are unlocked

[prisma wind]

Zagreus doesn't wear shoes

[ivory geode]

yeah i wasnt sure if he doesnt wear shoes or if theyre just Not Substantial

[prisma wind]

He just has Hot Feet

[ivory geode]

he's lucky they don't ||start fires in the grass||

idk if that needed spoilering

[worldly canyon]

You have ruined the game for me charlie

Be ashamed

[ivory geode]

but yeah drawing bare feet sucks even more than drawing shoes

[prisma wind]

I wish you happy arting

[craggy barn]

oh my god when was flurry shot so bad

[lyric wharf]

Flurry Shot is pretty good for cast build with Hera bow.

[craggy barn]

definitely not for chiron

no way

[ivory geode]

boy im lucky i save excessively as a gamer habit cuz i forgot my laptop was unplugged and it died because the low battery notif didn't trigger for some reason

[runic agate]

E

[craggy barn]

the game autosaves when you enter a chamber

so if it crashes or something mid-fight then you just start that fight over when you open the game again. so no worries

[prisma wind]

Pretty sure they meant for their art, but yeah

[desert meadow]

It also autosaves when you clear the chamber, but grabbing the reward won't save it again

[ivory geode]

oh this was about art but i can see why you'd get confused

[lyric wharf]

I think that the game auto saves after chosing a boon.

[craggy barn]

yeah the game autosaves after you get the room reward

i did ||16 heat|| by the way

i have decided i don't like flurry shot

[desert meadow]

It's fun, but you need a fitting build around it

Could stack chill or hangover with it fast

[dapper oracle]

draw bare feet well enough people will pay you for it

[craggy barn]

it feels really bad to use honestly

maybe if dashing didn't interrupt you from shooting like the rail then it would be better

[brisk trail]

How does the bow work with the Aspect of Chiron and a Triple Shot (hammer) upgrade?

[dapper oracle]

I saw a picture that reminded me of Theseus on ||EM3|| and I want to share it but this room is no attachments

[brisk trail]

What happens if I tag 2-3 enemies?

[dapper oracle]

I believe it picks one

[craggy barn]

you can't tag more than one enemy

[dapper oracle]

Possibly the last enemy hit

[brisk trail]

Maybe it tags the main/middle one?

[prisma wind]

I think it just tags the center one, but I could be wrong

[austere whale]

I 👏 need 👏 a 👏 Dusa 👏 plushie

[brisk trail]

Fair. I guess Piercing Volley is the way 🙂

Bet it's low key OP with Chiron

[craggy barn]

piercing volley is a good choice of relentless or concentrated are absent

[brisk trail]

i think it tag the last one you hit (i'm not sure about tripple shot, but you have a hammer that make you shot pierce through ennemies, and only the last one hit is tagged)

[craggy barn]

other it's kinda... i mean it's still great but relentless + concentrated is generally a better choice

[rancid vapor]

I spent so much time with Jury Summons 3/3 that I had forgotten it only contributes 3 heat and significantly extends chamber fights. Really need to think more about pact choices.

Elysium is a nightmare with that pact

[austere whale]

I can imagine

[rancid vapor]

Elite enemies

[austere whale]

I’m only on heat like 9 😅 and that’s with bow

[rancid vapor]

That's good

Which bow do you like?

[austere whale]

Chiron, insane damage and safe as hell

[rancid vapor]

I like Chiron, but it's so annoying in Styx when the chambers are tight

[austere whale]

Hera bow is out classed by Poseidon sword for casting runs

Easily

I like running Aphrodite cast on Hera bow though

[rancid vapor]

I haven't upgraded any swords besides zag and ||arthur|| lol

[austere whale]

Poseidon cast + aspect
Add exit wounds from Artemis

Easiest run you’d probably ever do

[brisk trail]

When you enter Charon's last shop with 2.25k gold

[ornate bear]

I've never gotten there with more than like 1-1.1k gold

[narrow hemlock]

...c-charon? chiron is the bow, charon is who manages the shop

[ornate bear]

I didn't even see the typo lol

[ember jay]

I spend way too much to ever get to the last shop and be able to buy the top shelf goodie

Oh, I see, it's for resource runs

[brisk trail]

Yeah, sorry

Meant learning difficulties shop boat-man

[craggy barn]

aspect of charon

which weapon would it be

[brisk trail]

Can I post screenshots here?

[ember jay]

...bow???

[ivory geode]

its like megaera as in the fury vs megara as in heracles's first wife

[ember jay]

ah rad, I want to say it makes the sword into a paddle

[ornate bear]

how would you even manage to get that much money? ||Charon fight|| + 2 or 3 chaos resource boons + Ocean's Bounty + Sunken Treasure whenever you can get it?

[craggy barn]

i think it would fit the spear better

[ivory geode]

||he does have that swipe attack||

[ember jay]

My first thought was spear into oar, but unless it gets the GY treatment, the fighting style might be off

[craggy barn]

imagine how funny it would be if charon were to actually wield stygius or varatha

[ember jay]

Oh dang ||Spin replaced with Boatman's Stroke||

[ornate bear]

||Charon|| with twin fists xD

[ivory geode]

he uses it to row his boat still

[ember jay]

and it does exactly what you think it does

[ivory geode]

like the pic of the guy cutting steak with a huge sword

[ornate bear]

rowing the boat with hands

[ivory geode]

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/mobile/000/028/139/cover.jpg

[brisk trail]

Enter Tartarus with Hypnos keepsake + 15% interest rate upgrade (golden touch) + avoid spending money along the way

• maybe 200g Erebus gate in Tartarus if I remember correctly

[ivory geode]

i made a spotify playlist for zagreus cuz i like doing that for fictional characters and the first song on it is bet on it from high school musical 2

what can i say, it has his vibes

[brisk trail]

Wait, I'm stupid. I'm playing with Underworld Customs and I sold a duo Boon as well...

[waxen juniper]

Whoops

[worldly canyon]

I usually enter that bit with anywhere between 600 and 37 obols

[brisk trail]

All right, 3.2k after clearning out the tunnels

#h1-victory-boasting

[narrow hemlock]

per channel guidelines, remember victory boasting is for victory screens 😅

[lyric wharf]

You're trying to get the most obols you can ?

[ivory geode]

i dont see why anyone is expected to go back into the tunnels after they can leave, like bro i need my health as full as possible

im prob missing something

[winter harbor]

some people do it for full stacks of their keepsake (pierced butterfly/lambent plume/||pom blossom||)

[narrow hemlock]

i go back hunting obols if i need some. or just for fun if im not on a time crunch

[ornate bear]

if you're down a DD or two, going into more tunnels for a well is sometimes worth it

[narrow hemlock]

sometimes i just like thrashing those rooms

[winter harbor]

I've also gone back if I'm fishing for extra DDs

And yeah, more obols to afford something else in the shop

[onyx swift]

Hello! I haven’t gotten Hades yet. Because I was wondering how well it runs on Switch

[brisk trail]

It's for Obols 100% of the time, I always try to buy the diamond/titan blood in the end

Previously, I used to farm keepsake encounters

Pierced butterfly doesn't work with each room (by design)

[ember jay]

I go back if I lost a death defiance and I have a build that'll lose minimal life

try to roll for a shop

worst case scenario is that I end up with unneeded boons

[old flax]

Will this game have updates other than bugfixes or is 1.0 the final content version?

[spiral crow]

hey quick question for any of you pros, if I am using Lambent Plume and I build up a bunch of dodge/move stacks and then switch off of it to a different trinket, do I keep the buff or does it stay with the trinket

[fleet acorn]

you lose the buff if you swap off of lambent plume. the same is true for than's keepsake

[spiral crow]

ok ty

https://tenor.com/view/hattip-jerry-messing-jerry-the-fedora-guy-fedora-gif-4268630

currently have 18% dodge chance/move with lambent entering the styx, I think I'm going to keep that

[onyx swift]

How well does the Switch version run?

[lyric wharf]

It runs great, 60 FPS.

[ember jay]

very good!

[willow token]

Can Duo boons show up after a re-roll if the original selection didn't include any?

[ember jay]

I have a computer that runs well, cross-saves work like a charm, and while switch loading screens are slower, the game itself plays great

[narrow hemlock]

as far as we know there is not any current plans for additional content

[onyx swift]

Awesome! Thanks all!

[lyric wharf]

You're welcome !

[ember jay]

no prob!

Hades was so nice, I bought it twice adskfjaskfdh

[winter harbor]

Yes, duo boons can show up in a reroll

But you can't get duo boons in trials

[ivory geode]

gotta say i rly like how the gods' designs implement their symbols
like the poppies on hypnos's belt, the sword than carries around but doesn't use, the moon designs on artemis's headband thing, the horses on poseidon's crown(?), the vulture design ares's armor has, and the adorable tiny tortoise in hermes's bag

[frosty ember]

agreed! Never seen a game with better art design

[willow token]

Huh.. do Poseidon's knockback effects also sometimes reflect projectiles?

[frosty ember]

I have no idea sorry

[willow token]

The only deflect boon i have is the one that triggers after being hit.. but I'm seeing some projectiles get deflected even when I don't get hit

[narrow hemlock]

so glad someone else thinks ares's breastplate is a vulture

[willow token]

just using poseidon's dash

[frosty ember]

im pretty sure ive seen it destroy projectiles but I can't see ive seen it reflect... thats really interesting

[willow token]

Or maybe Holy Shield can proc at the same time as a dodge

that seems more likely..

[frosty ember]

ohhh that makes sense

[manic bobcat]

I thought it's a crow/raven?

[narrow hemlock]

crows were associated with apollo, its unlikely to be that, given that supergiant has paid a lot of attention to detail

vultures were the bird sacred to ares

[manic bobcat]

Huh interesting

[dapper oracle]

Aspect of ||Charon|| would be an ||oar, so spear||.

[manic bobcat]

Make a new staff weapon

Easy

And make the special the spinny move

While the attack the poke and slam combo

[dapper oracle]

||"Your attack is a heavy oar sweep, but you can't spend Obols."||

this is a joke

[balmy valley]

Trying to get shady companion. I already gave everything that I could to Sisyphus. any help on that?

[hushed schooner]

uh

have you done his favour

like unlocked the locked heart

[manic bobcat]

You need to do specific quest

[balmy valley]

I didnt unlocked the locked heart

not sure how to do it 😦

[manic bobcat]

Do you have the ||Administrative Chamber||?

[balmy valley]

I do foxhope

[manic bobcat]

Then keep talking to Sisyphus, the Furies, Than, and Nyx.

Eventually something should show up

[balmy valley]

Ok, thank you 🙂

Quick curiosity, how you hide messages for spoilers?

[manic bobcat]

||insert spoiler here||

[loud lintel]

|| at the start and end

[balmy valley]

||thanks again||

[ivory geode]

||what would the secret aspect for the hypothetical staff weapon be? aaron? robin hood (bows were his main deal ofc but he was known to use a quarterstaff)?||

[versed verge]

Monkey king

[hushed schooner]

this chiron build is disgusting

i just cleared asterius and theseus in under a minute

basically

i'll post it in victory when im done

but i have so many buffs

[dapper oracle]

I think monkey king is perfect

[austere jacinth]

I dunno about the staff. Monkey King seems like a good shout, but there are fewer legendary staves on account of sticking a pointy thing to one tended to make for a better weapon xD

[ivory geode]

||that'd be double dipping into chinese folklore though since theres guan yu
i guess thats not breaking any rules.... and there is both arthur and beowulf...||

[austere jacinth]

||Beowulf is a British story, but I think Beo himself is Scandinavian within the story.||

What would you do for the other aspects though? Well... besides the one very obvious one (Aspect of Hermes/Caduceus). xD

[versed verge]

i think hermes would be base

[dapper oracle]

base?

[versed verge]

the zagerus one

[austere jacinth]

Zagreus is always the base form

Caduceus would be unlocked because it's not his.

[versed verge]

but looking at it even tho hades is the og holder of zag he still gets his own aspect as well

[austere jacinth]

Yeah, the 'base' form is not the 'first or original' form of the weapon, it's the natural form as shaped by its current holder.

[versed verge]

yeah i realized that after i said it lol

[austere jacinth]

So Zag would get his own thing and then Hermes would be an aspect and... would give Hermes more dialogue because I love him xD

[ivory geode]

i like his little tortoise

[hushed schooner]

|| that hades battle was disgusting||

[versed verge]

Thyrsus and Circe's staff for other two

no clue how the staff would work at all other than monkey king making it strech

[ivory geode]

lets see.... <goes on the wiki page for staff kirby and notes its differences from spear kirby>

[upper heron]

What is the best way to get the Haste of Hermes Steam achievement?

[austere jacinth]

I think I did it with the Rail. PEWPEWPEW

[upper heron]

What aspect?

[austere jacinth]

Zagreus. Eris would probably have been better, but I'm not sure I'd unlocked it when I did that achieve.

[upper heron]

Did you spam special or mostly attack?

[fleet acorn]

when i did it i just played the game lol

arthur is good though for tartarus clearing

[glacial dome]

When game will be on ps4 if anybody know

[hushed pumice]

Don't think it will, but never know

[hollow bane]

https://www.reddit.com/r/HadesTheGame/comments/jjtuy2/i_thought_id_met_everyone_in_hades_but_has_anyone/

Amazing

[glacial dome]

Haha

[ivory geode]

so if zagreus was a pokemon trainer he would ABSOLUTELY have a houndour/houndoom, right

[hushed schooner]

yeah

[wispy flax]

Dusa is so pure

[ivory geode]

hypnos would have a komala obviously

[hushed schooner]

ares bisharp

[ivory geode]

thanatos strikes me as a dusknoir kinda guy

[hushed schooner]

maybe

a duskull

[ivory geode]

would ninjask be too obvious for hermes? for those unfamiliar with pokemon ninjask has the highest base speed stat of any non-legendary pokemon

[hushed schooner]

no dusclops

the eviolite one

[narrow hemlock]

absol

[ivory geode]

idk i think absol would be better for like, zagreus

you'd think skelly would have a duskull or marowak or something but nah, he's got a wobbuffet

the furies have a roserade, grimmsnarl, and dhelmise respectively (yes this is because they can all learn power whip by tr)

[hushed schooner]

whos who

grimmsnarl is alecto?

[ivory geode]

yea

i think athena would have a falinks :)
potentially a noctowl as well

[hushed schooner]

yeah

or a rowlet

[ivory geode]

aphrodite has a cute charm lopunny and a luvdisc

[hushed schooner]

no

an alolamola

[upper heron]

For aspect of hades, If I have deadly strike, what should I have for my special? Or does it not matter? I want to get heart rend ideally

[trim wagon]

I just ||cleared hades and beat hades for the 5th time with only 6 HP||

stuff was clutch

[narrow hemlock]

I was basing absol for thanatos off the fact absol is considered an ill omen (which, among mortals, so is an aspect of death) and absol's imagery fits thanatos more

[austere jacinth]

I love Eeveelutions, so I'm sticking Umbreon with Nyx~

[trim wagon]

little on the nose dontcha think?

[austere jacinth]

Don't care. Cute

[trim wagon]

k