this reminds me that mashing out of petrify is the worst mechanic in this game tbh
#h1-discussion
hollow heron
distant night
4mins on the spot
dapper oracle
Hey there coz! Message for ya:
tall cloak
smooth
distant night
half the time from beo lol
dapper oracle
I do like hermes' dialogue
humble pollen
hollow heron
fishing wasn't in first ea version it was all to disguise true intentions
glacial lagoon
you good with expiration dates on cans? what does wm bxx lh025616 1741 mean
there's no way this can is actually from 1741 right? that's insane
manic bobcat
lmao that's a weird question
calm flare
oh my, I almost made myself read through all the comments
manic bobcat
I don't think that code matters at all.
calm flare
mythology is cool
glacial lagoon
I know right! it's rubbish but I'm scared to eat this can of plums
distant night
👀
glacial lagoon
gamer word
distant night
7:17 - 7:31:21 nice fight
humble pollen
Shade+fish %
distant night
people who donate per stuff: BROKE
manic bobcat
hm is he going to do 1k per cast
Because that crush shot is pommed out of this world lol
distant night
lvl 8 is so sick
subtle salmon
Let's see that sweet 2 room sack
tall cloak
aw
hollow heron
rip
subtle salmon
Aw man
daring elbow
for the 10th trip to the surface, do you still get titan blood from the final fight?
manic bobcat
yes
lavish skiff
was zeus shield made for zeus flourish?
subtle salmon
Swag fish
humble pollen
subtle salmon
Surface swag fish time
dapper oracle
are surface fish on a different RNG than other fish?
tall cloak
lol
ashen parrot
DADFISH
tall cloak
what is it, 4.5 k each burst?
subtle salmon
God that burst
dapper oracle
⚱️
distant night
8:59:03 - 9:42:33
oh my GOD
subtle salmon
Better see more swag fish
ashen parrot
And this is with fishing
dapper oracle
zagreus got wile e. coyote'd
distant night
cerberus wants the pets
dapper oracle
cool, good to know
subtle salmon
Better to get the boon at normal than not at all
dapper oracle
did he get grabbed?
distant night
original?
dapper oracle
he cleared the room so fast I couldn't tell
tall cloak
eris is the second aspect of the rail
the one that... haelian is explaining right now
hollow heron
huge aphro special 👀
serene smelt
hey guys sorry I don't talk much, but I'm here for the GDQ HYPE
stray tiger
crops good
distant night
welcome!
manic bobcat
:D
subtle salmon
This fish% is great
stray tiger
i just thought about it and i didnt miss it so thats cool
buoyant tartan
fish% leggo
serene smelt
good thing they're donating per fish
distant night
tisssssssssss
stray tiger
arty dash is the worst dash imo
tall cloak
depends, like anything in hades
distant night
it's great for specific weapons
like bow or spear or fists or sword
but else it's aight
hollow heron
rip pre-rework arty dash 😦
subtle salmon
F
serene smelt
did anyone else laugh when he didn't get Poseidon first round?
distant night
i cried
stray tiger
like bow or spear or fists or sword
bow?
distant night
the double reroll hurt so bad
hollow heron
bow spams dash attack
distant night
^
dapper oracle
haha mouse AND controller
stone anvil
I mean, the bow build more than made up for those early rolls
subtle salmon
What sick monster does mouse and controller
dapper oracle
LH controller RH mouse
manic bobcat
Yeah Hunter Dash is really good on bow and sword because you dash strike a lot, if not exclusively ideally.
hollow heron
mouse + controller is just optimal
subtle salmon
Dear god
buoyant tartan
mouse and controller how
manic bobcat
What sick monster does mouse and controller
ikr
dapper oracle
magma time
buoyant tartan
maybe on enter the gungeon but this...?
tall cloak
it's a bit unnatural but i can see the pros
subtle salmon
I know some NieR runners do it
tall cloak
directional dodge on keyboard is a bit clunky sometimes
dapper oracle
the bad dionysus voice attempt oof
tall cloak
i'm just too used to it
dapper oracle
I like the bad voices more than the good voices
tall cloak
if you start off with it i can see it being pretty natural
hollow heron
i thought i'd found a tech in a game at one point that would've forced me to use arrow keys, mouse, and controller all at the same time
tbh i think for Hades use whatever you grew up with
subtle salmon
time
stray tiger
is it just me or was megs comp bigger than normal there
stone anvil
3 Thans 
hollow heron
if you grew up with computers, use KBM, if you grew up on controllers, controller
tall cloak
probably the zoom on the map making it look bigger
dapper oracle
lol
manic bobcat
I grew up with KBM because RTS
dapper oracle
speedrunning is "playing the game normally, but fast"
manic bobcat
But controller on Hades feels good :D
distant night
omg whats on with the hydra neck
dapper oracle
oh there was a red special?
hollow heron
i just like kbm more tbh
distant night
"having gamergang and skill"
hollow heron
i cannot play anything other than platform fighters or 3d platformers with controller
tender oxide
That's... a lot of darkness xD
tall cloak
hm ideal would have been cluster or triple there right
stray tiger
delta for no reload is good
distant night
speedrunner have insane amounts of darkness
dapper oracle
oh! he already has posiedon dash
subtle salmon
No reload is the right call
distant night
hm ideal would have been cluster or triple there right
maybe anvil? :c
tall cloak
ambos?
stray tiger
ughhhh buterfly ball is bad
dapper oracle
what was the duo boon he just got?
stone anvil
Power up poms
stray tiger
aphro pos
dapper oracle
oh sweet nectar
serene smelt
nectar always
dapper oracle
lol hit by a stray splitter projectile
tall cloak
but delta's never bad; i was just thinking which one would have been better
since he has targeting
stray tiger
oo speed running mod so i can choose the boon
subtle salmon
Fixed seeds can help with tech practice
tall cloak
not worth it for anvil still
tall cloak
especially on three weapon run right?
buoyant tartan
did I just take an entire level to collect food delivery and pour coffee?
what did I miss?
stone anvil
Lots of dead shades
subtle salmon
Enemies getting moist
dapper oracle
wait did you miss all of hera?
buoyant tartan
I saw the hera run
dapper oracle
rip it was pretty good
buoyant tartan
LUL
distant night
lul
manic bobcat
This run has it all lmao
distant night
TINY BASTARD :D
dapper oracle
that hitbox lol
distant night
yesssssssss
subtle salmon
T i n y
buoyant tartan
hera run was faster than me collecting food and pouring coffee
stray tiger
tinys anoying
buoyant tartan
TINY VERMIN
serene smelt
TINY VERMIN
buoyant tartan
oh he died
leaden summit
TINY VERMIN
serene smelt
"when do we get the tiny vermin as a playable character" xD
dapper oracle
mm plushies of the keepsakes would be good
serene smelt
👀
distant night
plushies of tiny vermin oml
dapper oracle
did he miss himself with his eris explosion?
serene smelt
oh my god
stray tiger
C O M P P L U S H I E S
tall cloak
my bad wrong ping
mental minnow
I'd snap purchase plushies of the companions
serene smelt
guys real talk
tall cloak
@azure violet if you were watching the stream, that midboss just now was the one you need
serene smelt
cerberus plushie
subtle salmon
I'd buy a Bouldy plush instantly
buoyant tartan
but no bouldy
stray tiger
sam e
buoyant tartan
😦
distant night
mort plush plz
buoyant tartan
cerb plush but you can only pet one dog
serene smelt
bouldy plush please
tall cloak
nice, he's going to be within an hour
buoyant tartan
oh god this is a 5 sack
dapper oracle
oh! he missed a fish!
serene smelt
THERE WAS A FISH
subtle salmon
Rip the fish run
tall cloak
no he got the sack already
stone anvil
2nd missed fish D:
buoyant tartan
oh okay I missed it
tall cloak
hm maybe 1:01 or 1:02
stray tiger
well the way it works is you cant get greece fish if styx fish bc reasons
buoyant tartan
just barely after the hour
dapper oracle
I can see 1:01
subtle salmon
Solid run
dapper oracle
sub 1:01
stray tiger
lol pretty sure thats the event timer
tall cloak
oh that was actually really close
distant night
9:17:27 - 10:10:18
buoyant tartan
great run
dapper oracle
haha he rewinded 3 seconds because he hit the timer late
dapper oracle
mm yeah those tiny rats
jolly peak
gg
stone anvil
👏 indeed, so cool to see this at GDQ
leaden summit
wait he only has 17k darkness?
jolly peak
gg everyone!!
dapper oracle
he thanked me :)
distant night
gg!!!!!!
shy phoenix
cool run
dapper oracle
(anyone who has ever played hades)
hasty oxide
GG
distant night
(bruh)
hollow heron
GG
buoyant tartan
(I haven't played Hades in months)
jolly peak
that was cool!
ornate bear
even thought I watched it, I still have no idea how he does so much damage
buoyant tartan
(I feel guilty)
wraith oyster
wait he only has 17k darkness?
17k in his mirror in the build. He has like 500k
buoyant tartan
gg run
stray tiger
also choas theme
distant night
yee
buoyant tartan
was it all perfect catch too?
serene smelt
👏🏻
distant night
almost all
leaden summit
17k in his mirror in the build. He has like 500k
you need ~35k to max the mirror though
wraith oyster
Maybe both sides
buoyant tartan
oh my that bastion ending song
distant night
:O
buoyant tartan
fitting
ashen parrot
🎵
distant night
3am lads
manic bobcat
:D thank you for staying up
buoyant tartan
still great go play it
distant night
why do timezones exist
manic bobcat
lol
dapper oracle
goes back to listening to Last Words on infinite repeat
distant night
cant we all watch gdq when it's like 3pm instead
fiery pebble
Wow this hits different
fiery pebble
Is this one live, or pre-recorded?
manic bobcat
Nah I'm in the East Coast.
distant night
live runnin
buoyant tartan
the music is prerecorded
distant night
ah then it's the wrong fox mb
buoyant tartan
the event is live
jolly peak
its 11pm here
fiery pebble
I meant the music, ye
distant night
well then still a sweet hypnos time to yall
manic bobcat
good night!
stray tiger
※
wispy flax
Why is Thanatos such a tsundere
stray tiger
i mean he is the embodiement of death
wispy flax
"Wow I guess you wont thank me for helping you even when you didnt need it! Its not like I wanted to help you anyway! 
"
stray tiger
does that make him a good hugger?
wispy flax
idk never met a tsundere
opaque nexus
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/392070250511728653/796200833103822899/unknown.png we're already getting a lot of people coming into the speedrunning discord
also this
wispy flax
I managed to find another Artemis boon and give her the nectar after my lost save crash happened
No ambro yet, but thats OK. Plenty of time to get that as time goes on.
supple lodge
Fishman had some help from hermes looks like it
supple lodge
I just had a realization about the Elysium shades
They're not wearing hats
it's their hair
craggy barn
it wasn't obvious?
they may be warriors but that doesn't mean they deserve good hair 😤
supple lodge
A lot of people think they've got hats apparently
I also thought they were mob caps for the longest time
slow shoal
Good riddance..,., is so good.,.
lapis leaf
thanks everyone who was watching and supporting the Hades run! hope you all enjoyed it!
lavish skiff
ok so
hidden sword
heroic high level aphro attack
pressure points
clean kill
hoarding slash with like 2500 gold
shadow slash
whats max damage
ornate bear
to get that much gold though, you'd need some boons from poseidon and chaos
lavish skiff
not with good rng and side hustle and not buying anything
split sentinel
thanks everyone who was watching and supporting the Hades run! hope you all enjo...
fantastic run vorime! i'm learning speedrun jargon but it really had everything 😂 congrats!
lavish skiff
ive gotten that much by final boss before
basically what im asking is how much damage is it possible to do
brisk trail
@lavish skiff that's a cute Kirby
short pumice
mint forum
I'm so stupid
I accidently quit the game, so ||me unlocking guan yu, like revealing it didn't count and so I spent like 10 suicide runs trying to get aspect of lucifer but aaa and then I finally realized fjoiweajogiewa I'm so angry lmao||
mint forum
POGGG
wraith oyster
Aw man. I can borrow from Charon, but i need to win with bow still and I got this God tier build gong
I dint wanna die lol
wraith oyster
I'm doing like 1350
craggy barn
YIKES
gritty roost
So bursty, it's glorious
brisk trail
Struggling with Hades phase 2 final boss over and over, using Demeter fists in hell mode, I breeze thru all the other bosses before this now but just cannot figure out how the heck to beat this guy
craggy barn
damn i just want ||arthur|| why won't nyx gimme the damn phrase
opaque nexus
Biggest of Ws for Supergiant for donating 5k to games done quick and the Prevent Cancer Foundation
craggy barn
fat W
manic bobcat
Indeed
winter harbor
Supergiant is so involved in the community
I knew that when they commented on the fresh file% speedrun they mentioned a revenge build done by Haelian
Revenge builds are fun
wraith oyster
Struggling with Hades phase 2 final boss over and over, using Demeter fists in h...
It takes a bit. Took me like 6 tries. Gotta learn his moves. Maybe check out a video or throw on God mode. Or have a good call to help bop him down.
winter harbor
I recommend Artemis call for deleting phases
wraith oyster
Same
molten ocean
I mean no hate on the developers but the shield and sword are just unbeatable. Anyone else feel like that?
waxen juniper
I mean no hate on the developers but the shield and sword are just unbeatable. A...
Do you mean you struggle winning with them?
waxen juniper
I knew that when they commented on the fresh file% speedrun they mentioned a rev...
Without a doubt, damp dad is a huge reason for why I bought the game.
vast gulch
Is Damp Dad Haelian or Poseidon
brisk trail
can someone tell me one good thing about hades to convince my friends to play it
agile tangle
has a single person ever mention that Cerberus reminded them of Clifford the Big Red Dog?
manic bobcat
can someone tell me one good thing about hades to convince my friends to play it
It's a good roguelite.
agile tangle
can someone tell me one good thing about hades to convince my friends to play it
Tell them that they don't have to be a god in playing roguelike games to enjoy Hades
brisk trail
there saying they aint playing hades because "it does not have a 1st person view"
spice hearth
Tell em that you can always pet the best boi of the Underworld, Cerberus
brisk trail
Tell em that you can always pet the best boi of the Underworld, Cerberus
true that
spice hearth
ah
waxen juniper
there saying they aint playing hades because "it does not have a 1st person view...
That's a pretty silly reason. But hey, to each their own I guess
brisk trail
yeah
languid plover
can someone tell me one good thing about hades to convince my friends to play it
say that Hades is 100x better than TBOI 
manic bobcat
Not an FPS is a turn down for a lot of people
brisk trail
say that Hades is 100x better than TBOI <:dusa:522248771409543188>
LMAO
manic bobcat
say that Hades is 100x better than TBOI <:dusa:522248771409543188>
Someone in GDQ chat tried to say otherwise
Got promptly shut down.
waxen juniper
As in the binding of Isaac?
languid plover
What's GDQ?
manic bobcat
What's GDQ?
GameDoneQuick
And annual speedrunning event that raise fund for charity
waxen juniper
If they are referring to The Binding of Isaac, Hades and TBOI aren't really two games you can compare and say one is better than the other.
manic bobcat
Hades was done earlier today
waxen juniper
Yeah, I am hoping for AGDQ to post a youtube vid soon
brisk trail
its like comparing couches to chairs
manic bobcat
It will be here all week on Twitch if you want to learn more about it.
languid plover
I never feel very weak in Hades of whatever boons i got... but in TBOI, I have done lot of reset because I feel too weak...
manic bobcat
Some people think that's bad
Because they are hardcore gamers
And only like games that are anti players.
ornate bear
well, then they can turn up the ||heat|| then :p
languid plover
If they are referring to The Binding of Isaac, Hades and TBOI aren't really two ...
Yeah, people more likely compare TBOI with Gungeon
waxen juniper
I will say, I definitely feel like I have had some trash runs in Hades. But that doesn't mean the run still can't be beaten
manic bobcat
They are all roguelites
waxen juniper
Yeah, people more likely compare TBOI with Gungeon
That is a viable comparison
languid plover
Can't compare roguelite shooter with roguelike action aye?
manic bobcat
Can't compare roguelite shooter with roguelike action aye?
I don't disagree. Just that I'm not surprised when people make it.
It's like every third person action game that is difficult will be compared against Dark Souls by a lot of people.
waxen juniper
I see no problem comparing two games that don't have too much relation to it, but I do find a problem trying to choose which one is better.
manic bobcat
It's a jaded expression, but it will be there
languid plover
OOT but, aren't souls-like mechanic derivated from Monster Hunter?
waxen juniper
Now if one is a half baked ripoff of the other, then I totally get it
manic bobcat
OOT but, aren't souls-like mechanic derivated from Monster Hunter?
Not really?
rapid bear
whats the best weapon?
ive been loving the sword
and ive everything till varatha the spear
also thanks i love you Supergiant Games, thanks for making Hades <3
top 10 games of all time easily
languid plover
whats the best weapon?
Of course it is Daddy's spear: Gigaros
manic bobcat
This gets asked a lot and the answer is always "it depends."
rapid bear
im buying all games from this dev without batting an eyelid
rapid bear
This gets asked a lot and the answer is always "it depends."
right
i personally dont like the bow as much
but all the other weapons
are so damn cool
the shield throw
sooooooo cooool
fire af
also foxhope
thank you for being around and helping people 👍
appreciate it 
manic bobcat
Thanks for the kind words!
rapid bear
:D
manic bobcat
I would suggest NemesisSword, Hera Bow if you want something cheap in term of blood but is still powerful
But all weapons are equally powerful, really.
waxen juniper
Yeah, each one has potential in their own way.
waxen juniper
Trippy shot
languid plover
Of course it is Daddy's spear: Gigaros
serious answer:
It seems like communities worshipped Eris Rail
rapid bear
managed to beat the first boss!
waxen juniper
Rock on!
waxen juniper
Thank you thank you 😄
waxen juniper
cant wait to conquer Asphodel now
Keep it up and you'll be at the end in no time!
waxen juniper
Oh yeah, having fun is good too :p
craggy barn
would it actually be bad for speedrunning to out-kill thanatos? feels like he takes a while to drop the heart
abstract ginkgo
I never thought about that, but it is probably slower to not kill the enemies as fast as possible
but unlike a normal playthrough avoiding the enemies than is already targeting might be smart
waxen juniper
So... I am using aspect of Poseidon, but I immediately got flurry slash.
Well cast build, it was a fun idea, but we have other plans
waxen juniper
Oh too late, the run is nearly over
warped iron
I never thought about that, but it is probably slower to not kill the enemies as...
Than rooms pause the timer during the challenge itself, so this is actually irrelevant
waxen juniper
Unless you are doing an RTA run of course
waxen juniper
Demeter's legendary is such a fun flex in the final fight
abstract ginkgo
It looks so good too
supple lodge
aw, turns out meg appreciates hypnos greeting her, lmao
clever kiln
I'm new and I've only cleared three times (all with sword because lol Cursed Slash - although I didn't have it for my first clear). I learned something interesting today that you can time out with the Lambent Plume during Asterius's dialogue after you beat him 😂
waxen juniper
Oh yeah, that was frustrating
clever kiln
I feel like that's a bug or should be
waxen juniper
I feel it too should be fixed
clever kiln
similarly I think there should be an upgrade for the Codex that has the Hammers like the God Boons - I don't like having to open the wiki to check them and what prerequisited I need :c
ionic shuttle
waxen juniper
Sadly not all runs end with a win. I had an extremely solid Zag bow run, but 40% extra enemy damage did me in pretty good
waxen juniper
Nice!!
waxen juniper
He may get ya the first time, but you can do it
lapis ravine
You didnt think he could get more obnoxious
supple lodge
He can, just imagine him saying "begone, thot" 
waxen juniper
Welcome CC!
waxen juniper
Do you have hidden spear already?
floral flame
How do people manage to get a (good) clear with the bow? I feel like it's lacking in damage, even with a maxed out aspect of Zagreus... Also I see people doing 10-15 min runs.. but since I feel like the bow takes a lot of precision.. how..?
floral flame
I feel like I'm missing something then..
Wait
So if I activated that special-seeker aspect, it doesn't have the 15% crit chance anymore?
junior radish
No
waxen juniper
Yea, each aspect has its own unique properties
waxen juniper
I thought it had all of them, rip
That'd be insane!
junior radish
I used to really not like the bow but the chiron aspect makes it really good
junior radish
It makes it so that your special's arrows will seek the enemy you last hit with basic attack
floral flame
Ah yes, that's the one I tried last night
Is that the one people use for faster runs? I only cleared twice so far, using the shield..
waxen juniper
Nice!
neon delta
This is so sad
But imma pat myself on the back for even getting this far in under 50 tries 😩😩😩
static shell
ya watch your mouth
spiral dune
Does anyone know if the hades run in agdq happened already?
waxen juniper
Does anyone know if the hades run in agdq happened already?
Sure did
spiral dune
God dammit. I missed it
granite ether
@neon delta ||the hades fight || is spoilers in the channel please use spoiler tags 
worn ember
hey so, not sure if this is a new-player question or not
let's say i enter Asphodel with Artemis' arrowhead keepsake
why does it give me Hermes for the first room?
ahh
supple lodge
In-universe explanation: Hermes is faster
craggy barn
yeah that makes sense
waxen juniper
supple lodge
its so funny when he shows up first and hes like lol x god is fast but im faster
supple lodge
dionysus on sugar instead of alcohol
waxen juniper
What are some good weapons for hangover?
thin plover
Chaos shield with the daedalus upgrade that lets it hit 4 other enemies
Combine that with doom or chill
And privileged
clever kiln
Dionysus is always on ritalin
supple lodge
I'm sure he has the zoomies sometimes
Being a god of chaos and revelry after all
He can't always be zzz
Thanatos makes me wheeze every time he says something like DEATH IS INESCAPABLE or DEATH SENTENCE
supple lodge
Thanatos watched Endgame: "I am inevitable"
runic imp
i have a question i am trying to befriend Poseidon but now i cant gift him anything anymore 😦
i already gave him 6 of the potion thingies but i still have 2 normal friend drinks and 4 best friend drinks but i cant seem to give poseidon anything :/
merry current
Fine ill do it myself
tight chasm
anyone can think of the best build for shotgun?
i wonder if its artemis crit or still zeus
runic imp
oh and how do you get a "rare fish" 🤔 is it just random luck anytime you fish?
lime iris
can anyone give me a little nudge in the right direction for ||Sisyphus' quest||? I've given all the nectar's I can and talked to him a few times
lime iris
oh and how do you get a "rare fish" 🤔 is it just random luck anytime you fish?
according to the wiki there are two windows to catch the fish, ||if you're faster the fish is more rare||
runic imp
ohhh okay 😮
floral flame
i have a question i am trying to befriend Poseidon but now i cant gift him anyth...
At 6 hearts, you reach a locked heart, where you have to complete their favor or an event in order to continue. These can, however, be locked behind other story-events, so it will unlock/trigger eventually. According to the wiki, Poseidon || requires 18 caught fish minimum, and 1 fish prior to meeting him in that run. ||
runic imp
i see 😮
stark prism
question, should i trade the ||ambrosia i just got from beating elysium for the first time|| for another titan's blood? or should i save it for when i max a bond with someone?
floral flame
question, should i trade the ||ambrosia i just got from beating elysium for the ...
Objectively speaking, for future encounters || Tartarus is a lot easier to beat than Elysium || so I'd save it.
unique fern
question, should i trade the ||ambrosia i just got from beating elysium for the ...
I think || ambrosia || is more valuable,but getting better aspects will allow you to get || ambrosia || easier. so.......
stark prism
thanks for the advice! :D
it also says ||ambrosia|| is for improving special items, what does that mean?
unique fern
thanks for the advice! :D
it also says ||ambrosia|| is for improving special it...
When you unlock || companions || they will need an offering of ambrosia to rank up
stark prism
one last question, do you think infernal soul is better? or is stygian soul worth investing in instead of infernal?
or is it dependent on playstyle?
dull niche
usually depends on play style and what build you’re going for
both can work just fine
stark prism
noted; i just got it last night so im still trying to figure out what exact build(s) i enjoy doing, but for now i know my #1 i always look out for is cursed slash :)
upbeat cedar
Damn 40% ||forced overtime|| in elysium is no joke
misty harbor
just saw some streamer having 3 Poseidon boons in the last stage's shop lol, no other gods allowed
gray jacinth
Poseidon he like you must fish or else
misty harbor
I remember he appeared at the very beginning and was like IM GONNA GIVE YOU THE BEST THING YOU'VE EVER HAD and it was just one legendary boon for higher chances of getting a fishing spot. I was like thanks uncle 
and sold it as soon as I got the chance lol
misty harbor
but honestly I've heard that many people rate his boons very low but I've been really enjoying his knock-back combos that just makes every enemy explode as soon as they hit a wall
gray jacinth
Yeha his nock backs nice is asthodal
But not that damage heavy
suppose it depends but alot of my posiedan boons haven't had very high damage
agile tangle
Poseidon's boons are funny if your paired Coronacht with it
I call it the "Social Distancing" build @gray jacinth @misty harbor
misty harbor
lol it's true
gray jacinth
I'm gonna try when I get home from work
Chiron add as much nockback as I can possibly find and some fishing in between
agile tangle
I also call it the "Anti-Bone Raker Spray" because I HATE Bone Rakers
misty harbor
yeah I bet with Chiron the knock-back damage is gonna be insane
although it might be a little bit of an overkill i guess
agile tangle
Chiron Bow + the additional 4 Arrow Hammer? Delish
gray jacinth
Boke rakers are fricking annoying
Isn't there a boon which multiplies damage by how much nockback you have?
agile tangle
Rupture?
gray jacinth
I think so
And overkill is the best way to play
I will be unstoppable ||until father comes along and yeets in me in five seconds|| but I'll still be unstoppable!
agile tangle
I like Overkilling if it means getting more kills than Than
gray jacinth
Than is Great until he turns up in tartarus to early to he useful and he gets one kill while I'm like sniping the lot
agile tangle
wait he can appear in Tartarus? I thought it's just Ashpo and Ely
or maybe he does and i just forgot
bruh I'm still upset over how he beat me by one point
gray jacinth
brisk trail
Best aspect for Machine gun?
void shell
I remember he appeared at the very beginning and was like IM GONNA GIVE YOU THE ...
yeah after unlocking the rod it's queued up as a start drop
void shell
Best aspect for Machine gun?
the hidden one can be pretty fun/memey
untold tendon
Any new about the game release on GOG?
hexed shore
@floral flame p sure hidden bow and zag bow are used for most high heat fast clears
quasi stirrup
I have a question how do you unlock the locked hearts for characterrs?
stray tiger
depends on the character
hexed shore
Keep advancing dialogue
Sometimes advancing dialogues with other characters might be the trigger
quasi stirrup
ok
hexed shore
Just pay attention to who you think they might have relations/complications with
brisk trail
Thanks for the spoiler, lad.
hexed shore
@narrow oak you really should spoiler that or ask in #h1-story-discussion
That's like major spoiler
lyric wharf
Hi I just joined, I bought Hades on Switch almost 2 weeks ago and since the 2nd day of playing it was already the best Roguelike game I ever played.
weak tree
It's really fun. This is probably my first time enjoying a roguelike.
floral flame
@hexed shore I just don't understand how 😭 I spend so long lining up a shot, so I don't miss them smh
hexed shore
I'll tell what I told literally everyone and myself when I cried about bow
Dash strike
Dash strike is the key to cracking bows
floral flame
So just dash and shoot everything?
hexed shore
Your power shot charges way faster so you keep away from enemies shooting power shots till they die
Yes
Once you get the rythm on the dash strike you're golden
floral flame
Mkay. That's what I did at the start too, but then I tried to focus on power shooting instead
hexed shore
Double shot and triple shot are the hammers you're looking for
Cause they make it a shotgun
hexed shore
Yes double is two shots decreased range
Ideally never really touch the special on zag bow
lyric wharf
It's really fun. This is probably my first time enjoying a roguelike.
Its indeed really fun, I love Roguelike games.
hexed shore
Special is good for when you enter the witches circle or something
Athena special pretty cool for bouncing all the projectiles too
But also chiron is easy mode btw, I dislike that bow cause it feels like cheesing the game
versed axle
Barrage Special with rockets was so fun too bad I died
hexed shore
Cluster bomb with rocket bomb?
zinc hinge
just got to the end credits and realized there was a discord for this game?! 😮
hexed shore
Lool welcome
zinc hinge
thank you thank you
versed axle
Yeah cluster bomb with rockets 800+ dmg to the face slap some crit on that
and everything dies
hexed shore
By end credits do you mean|| the 10 clears one or the epilogue?||
lyric wharf
Welcome, I just joined as well.
zinc hinge
the first one
got a free pass from Hades to just go on, couldn't believe my luck
had the worst build ever x)
hexed shore
I see, ||best girl finally joins the house||
zinc hinge
yuss
hexed shore
Anything post first clear is a spoiler in this channel btw
Including the final boss' identity
distant solar
Hey, hello to you and here: P
I just, like, came in to say hello to you
hexed shore
You can use || to spoiler your message ||
fleet narwhal
you can just refer to them as redacted tho
stark prism
tfw had a perfect build for end boss (pre first clear) then tried the daedalus reroll thing at the shop and lost cursed slash for double and stronger bigger nova...
it's the self sabotage for me 😔 👌🏼
lyric wharf
I had a run with cursed slash, a 4th death defiance from a Chaos boon and I didn't die at all at the final boss.
I kept healing back, I had around 100 hp.
hexed shore
Isn't losing cursed slash before final boss good?
stark prism
oh pog
nah man i loooove cursed slash
my favorite daedalus buff
idk about meta doe
i got the game 2 nights ago
lyric wharf
Cursed slash is pretty good if you got some health boost and good at dodging to heal back in time.
hexed shore
Your hp increases and if you're getting hit then redacted is not going to give you much time to heal anyway
lyric wharf
Redacted is another word for the final boss ?
hexed shore
Yes
lyric wharf
Getting hit you mean hitting enemies ?
hexed shore
No getting hit by the boss
Redacted deals like 40-30 damage every hit atleast
So that's 15-20 attacks before you can heal it back
stark prism
seems as though i dont get as far as end boss unless i have cursed slash
i also had the insane duo boon that lets you regen when you're out of stubborn defiance
which helped a lot
hexed shore
Sure I'm not debating the effectiveness of cursed slash
I'm debating whether it's good or bad that you lost it before facing the final boss
lyric wharf
I've finished runs before that cursed slash run.
stark prism
but still, was so close and i just had to try that reroll thing out LOL
lyric wharf
I dont risk it lol.
stark prism
I'm debating whether it's good or bad that you lost it before facing the final b...
oh i know, im just saying stuff LOL
lyric wharf
Unless I had one I dont like.
lyric wharf
Zagreus himself says it in the game, something like the best way to learn is to fail.
lyric wharf
What's that spoiler about ?
shy steeple
Does a boss count as a foe? Not a native speaker. And there is a boon which specifically says reduced damage from bosses
It feels like a boss doesn‘t count toward reduced boss damage
hexed shore
Yes bosses are foes
The reason the boon decreases only boss damage is cause it doesn't decrease damage from other sources
lyric wharf
Btw there's something I was wondering about, cursed slash heals you on normal attack and not on assault but there's a Chaos boon condition that damages you on attacks but assault is also counted in.
hexed shore
What's assault?
lyric wharf
Dash + attack, I don't play in English and I assumed the word would be the same.
shy steeple
I had Fated Persuasion activated as a talent. But haven’t it skilled once. So it’s still level 0 you could call it. I completed a run. It didn’t count towards the prophecy to complete a run with it. Makes sense this far. Than I did a run another run. The talent is still level 0. i found a dice and was able to change well of charon items and boons. This is inconsistent. Or maybe I am just remembering something wrong.
stark prism
Dash + attack, I don't play in English and I assumed the word would be the same.
that's dash-strike in english
hexed shore
Yes dash strike is always attack
Never used cursed slash so idk if it counts it or not
lyric wharf
Because dash strike doesn't heal with cursed slash but Chaos condition does hurt you.
I had to use my special all the way and had no cast boon lol.
stark prism
LOL
lyric wharf
Lmao.
stark prism
yeah actually what laumi said is true
i noticed only normal left clicks heal for cursed slash
but not dash strikes
lyric wharf
So I'm not sure if it was intended or not.
Because the game usually consider attack and dash strike to be different when it comes to boons or Daedalus.
stark prism
^ you know now that you say that
i dont think your attack is the same as a dash strike
so therefore the Cslash counts only for attacks and not dash strikes
hexed shore
It is for most other things, it seems only cursed slash makes this distinction
Actually
I think all the other times I've seen this distinction it seems wrt hammer
Like with spear hammer that increases range
lyric wharf
I have nothing against it but I was just wondering if it was intended or not.
hexed shore
Not sure if intended or not but it's on the wiki so I guess the devs know about it?
lyric wharf
Like I said, cursed slash heals on attack, not on dash strike.
Chaos boon condition hurts you if you attack.
I assumed dash strike wouldn't count.
patent grove
Just came here to say that I really like that the gods are not all caucasian people on this game
misty harbor
do different paintings for the west hall replace each other? Or is there a space for all of them at the same time?
patent grove
and I still waiting for heracles
hexed shore
Rip
patent grove
and this game also made me think ||Theseus|| is a douche
lyric wharf
Are damage reduction boons worth it with ||Pact of Punishment increased damage|| ?
swift violet
and this game also made me think ||Theseus|| is a douche
I think he was a douche
patent grove
My greek myhology is a little rusty
swift violet
He like tried to kidnap Persephone and dumped his girlfriend on an island to get with her sister
stark prism
LOL i spoiled myself unintentionally of the end boss pre first clear
happens to the best of us
patent grove
pardon my french
lyric wharf
Is there a channel where we can talk to the dev about translation ?
swift violet
First time i got to the boss I got so mad bcs I got him to ||1 health and it turns out he regains all of it||
stark prism
lyric wharf
Thank you.
hexed shore
That's a spoiler I think pengy
swift violet
yeeeaaaaaa
hexed shore
You can edit your message and add in || on either side to spoiler it
stark prism
like ||this||
swift violet
Did I do it?
viscid moss
no
stark prism
you might've used capital i instead of the |
tender oxide
Mark your entire message like this: ||message||
hexed shore
||Should be like this||
swift violet
There we go
abstract lark
Hello everybody. I just got Hades recently.
stark prism
there we goooo
abstract lark
I've heard some awesome things about this game.
viscid moss
youve heard right
stark prism
^
swift violet
yessir
stark prism
i bit the bullet 2 nights ago and already have half a day on it
hexed shore
Ooh transistor player
abstract lark
I got it during the steam sale, thankfully in time
viscid moss
just watch out for the other chat boards here, they can be spoiler heavy
swift violet
Yup
swift violet
At first i thought god mode meant that the game was harder
stark prism
expecting an easy first clear
tender oxide
Stick to this chat and #h1-for-new-players
abstract lark
I really do like Supergiant games from what i've played.
stark prism
it raises by 2% per death and starts at 20 right
yeah i have it at 40 now
abstract lark
Hades will be my second game.
hexed shore
Before first clear i stuck religiously to new players chat
swift violet
On my first clear I couldn't even get to ||Meg||
Been making it consistently to ||Styx|| rn tho
abstract lark
If there's something i think supergiant is awesome at, it's music
swift violet
Bruh the boss fight music slaps
abstract lark
Lament Of Orpheus is definitely my favorite.
swift violet
And eurydice and orpheus
First time I made it to eurydice i just kinda stayed there and listened
stark prism
Been making it consistently to ||Styx|| rn tho
nice! ||styx|| is easy if your reaction time is on point to cure the poison
mild fulcrum
uhhh quick question does patrocolus hydralite gold work if you have lasting consequenses on 100%
opaque nexus
nope
mild fulcrum
welp
opaque nexus
the only healing that works is from the hidden spear and cursed slash
and also stubborn roots
mild fulcrum
I have been using stubborn defiance
I am so scared of the boss
this is probably gonna end bad
supple lodge
when you want to do a certain build but rng decides you should have olympian salad instead
swift violet
R u scared of the Elysium boss?
For them just kill the ||Minotaur|| first and then hit|| theseus|| when he turns around
mild fulcrum
nah nah
Im trying to do 32 heat
was just hear for a quick question
or well still am trying to do since I survived
azure violet
how do i make every companion work against hades?
for now its only skelly and sisyphus
mild fulcrum
uhhh
I think that happens after some time
there is this conversation with hades
at home
azure violet
but what are the requirements for the conversation to trigger
junior radish
You need to have 4 hearts with hades, and 7 hearts with at least 2 of the characters that give you companions
junior radish
At least one of the characters that you get to 7 hearts must be someone whose companion cant be used against hades
So not skelly or sisyphus
azure violet
oh yeah the only people i have at 7 hearts are sisyphus and skelly
wait but arent those the only companions that can be used against hades
junior radish
Yea
azure violet
oh wait sorry i misunderstood what u just said lol
junior radish
You need 2 characters at 7 hearts, one of them must be someone whose companion cant already be used against hades
azure violet
ok thanks
mild fulcrum
Uhhh btw someone the rng of the ||satyr sack||
Or a way to determine which tunnel he is next anything would help
hexed shore
It's recommended to go for boss rooms btw since you get better rewards atleast
tender oxide
You can’t get it on the first chamber
hushed schooner
still no high tolerance
done like multiple trippy shot runs recently
and it still hasnt showed up
only boon i need from the olympians that isnt a duo or legendary
hushed schooner
at least ive completed the daedalus prophecy for
rail
thats two weapon prophecies done
hexed shore
You know what would make cold embrace good? A ||demeter|| boon that says frost can be inflicted on you for a 30% increase in movement, attack and special speed
Or even just movement speed
mild fulcrum
So close
hexed shore
Just getting artic blast procs on yourself would make it not trash tier
errant shadow
Guys , I was in last stage in the middle of an encounter but the light rhymes got interrupted so my pc restarted. I open the game and im back on skelly again without any progress saved
How come so , im sad
Was so powerfull i could beat the game easily
pale rock
Was so powerfull i could beat the game easily
If you check #h1-tech-fixes there is a guide to recovering save data
pale rock
#h1-tech-fixes message for reference is the section on recovering save data
errant shadow
There's a way to recover if you haven't left the room yet
what room? I reopened the game and im back on skelly
jaunty bay
jesus the hidden spear aspect sucks ass
hexed shore
It's got a learning curve and it needs to be upgraded before it can be used
jaunty bay
I don't see the point in using it. It's so slow its not worth the extra damage and severly limits what boons you can utilize well. And the healing from the whirl is not worth the reduced health at all
errant shadow
Follow the procedure
I dont have any profile1.sav . I only have Profile1.sav.bak
Till sav bak 7
hexed shore
You have to rename profile1.sav.bak to profile1.sav
errant shadow
Do i have to sort by date first ?
errant shadow
Do i have to change the bak file only ?
hexed shore
Yes you have to rename it to profile1.sav then load the save in your game
pale rock
Do it and see if it recovers the save file, if not repeat
And if all of them don't work, post in #h1-tech-support and someone will try to help you
hexed shore
Unfortunately not, I'm travelling right now
pale rock
Did it help?
errant shadow
The bad thing is i dont have Profile1.sav.bak but Profile1.v.sav.bak
This is the file i have to rename ?
pale rock
Sort by date modified, and rename Profile1.sav first to Profile1_old.sav
errant shadow
I dont have any file by name "Profile1.sav" only
They are either Profile1.v.sav.bak / Profile1_temp/ Profile1_temp.sav/ Profile1.v
pale rock
Okay, dm me a screenshot of the files you do have and I will try to help you
lyric wharf
jesus the hidden spear aspect sucks ass
Its more suited to those who are pretty good at the game, huge trade off but its probably worth it.
hollow loom
When you buy a song from Hades on iTunes and you play it on loop and sleep better than you have in years.
patent grove
Zagreus + || Meg || #notrelationshipgoals
swift violet
Lmao
pale rock
Unfortunately not, I'm travelling right now
Alright, got it sorted out!
lyric wharf
The game often goes fast in battles that I'm like not understanding whats going on even tho I know what I'm doing and killing enemies while dodging everything as well, anyone else feeling that way about the game ?
lyric wharf
Yes that or either bosses like ||Hydra|| and ||Asterius/Theseus.||
Like you see everything's going on but the action is like too fast to follow lol.
hushed schooner
you don't need to spoiler those
swift violet
For ||Theseus|| and ||Asterius|| I pretty much know whats going on
pale rock
Yeah you only need to spoiler the final boss, ||Hades||
hushed schooner
yeah
swift violet
Otherwise you would just get hit with his spear if ur not paying attention
hushed schooner
at least in these chats
if it helps to know
theres a pink target on you
that kinda moves and changes depending on theseus aim
humble maple
lost my 20something streak to ||charon, wasnt expecting to fight him|| 😩
lyric wharf
For ||Theseus|| and ||Asterius|| I pretty much know whats going on
Yeah same but I mean more like the action goes so fast its crazy to see how fast the game is going on, I love it.
swift violet
Its that way for the hydra
when all the minions come and stuff
I just kinda move between each of them and spend like 2 seconds on each
lyric wharf
I love Asterius and Theseus fight, dealing with the Minotaur while dodging his attacks is so rewarding.
hushed schooner
it does get fun honeslty
i'm the past where
at least the level of difficulty of the fight
lyric wharf
I just kinda move between each of them and spend like 2 seconds on each
Yeah its like battles are over before you even realize it.
hushed schooner
is overwhelming
i just need to make surei have enough health going in
|| obviously i haven't tried em3 yet so ||
not sure how long thats gonna last
lyric wharf
|| obviously i haven't tried em3 yet so ||
What's that ?
hushed schooner
have you beaten the game
lyric wharf
Yes.
hushed schooner
its a || heat thing ||
|| the 3rd level of the heat that boosts boses and it boosts elysium bosses ||
hushed schooner
gl
abstract ginkgo
you got this
hollow hawk
well
i already took 50 damage and the boss is barely scratched
but im glad i reached this far
lyric wharf
Good luck.
brisk trail
I have Lv 3 of Aspect of Zagreus, Lv 1 of Aspect of Eris and Lv 1 of Aspect of Hestia, and I've also unlucked Guan Yu
Am I all set for unlocking Aspect of Lucifer ?
abstract ginkgo
yes
brisk trail
I've talked to Zeus multiple times (when wearing his ring), but he just doesn't let me unlock it lol
so now it's just pure RNG?
lyric wharf
Which weapon for that aspect ?
abstract ginkgo
gun
lyric wharf
So far I only unlocked the spear 4th aspect.
brisk trail
like 5% chance?
abstract ginkgo
I assume that works but I don't want to give you false info