h1-discussion

[sharp fossil]

yeah i wanna inflict asphodel on my enemies

[winter harbor]

The game still references Hestia and gives her a gun

[arctic zenith]

||Any tips on how to unlock Artemis’ final heart?||

[molten depot]

i have not played the beginning in a while

when can you start switching weapon aspects?

ah nevermind

after your first run with the rail.

[distant night]

talk alot with her

but i want fire lol
We have like Asphodel
and zag has his flamin feet

[sharp fossil]

yeah flaming feet exactly

[distant night]

hotwheels, sponsor this lad

[sharp fossil]

why can i not dragon kick my enemies into self combustion

[distant night]

idk why immediate self combustion, especially since most enemies are shades i guess
but havin a fire kick would be awesome ngl

i guess he just never had the opportunity to train it with achilles to make it a thing ;-;

[arctic zenith]

I mean the dash for a possible fire boon could be dropping the magma patches under you like lernie

[distant night]

wouldnt you get hurt by them tho or else asphodel lava wouldnt be a threat nomore? 🤔

[arctic zenith]

Well it would probably be modified for the dash version but they could have a boon that makes you immune to asphodel lava

[distant night]

wouldnt that make asphodel way too easy and short?

since asphodel has the least amount of chambers n well... lava can kick your butt on more than one occasion

[arctic zenith]

True

Maybe it just lets you stand in lave for a little longer than normal

But on the other hand the former could be a legendary boon

[distant night]

it would be a weird legendary

since you could only really make use of it in asphodel since no other stage has lava.....

[median crystal]

How do I use meg against final boss?

[distant night]

you wait for his invincibility second, call her and stand by the final boss so if he decides to lunge after you, he doesnt exit the summoning circles, if you mean that?

[drifting sigil]

is there anything else i'm missing? i tried dying quickly to see if nyx would trigger the keywords, but didn't get it

[distant night]

all the hidden aspect unlocking tips are in #h1-story-discussion int he pinned, but please spoiler the names

[timid slate]

imagine the spoilers

xD

[drifting sigil]

oh i'm so sorry

[arctic zenith]

Another idea would just be fully nullifying traps

[timid slate]

|| ||

jukes on u

[median crystal]

Hmm no, I can't use it at all

[shadow steeple]

Uh what's the key to use ||summons|| I literally forgot and I'm in a ||Hades|| fight

[distant night]

oh have you not had ||the talk with hades yet that you're allowed to use summons||?

[distant night]

1 on keyboard

[shadow steeple]

ty

[distant night]

gl :)

[median crystal]

Guess not

[distant night]

sorry i thought you mightve already had it, just exhaust your dialogue with father dearest then :)

[median crystal]

Ah ok thx

[brisk trail]

a

[distant night]

have fun and good luck with the dialogue rng

[arctic zenith]

Can you use sturdy to get past the stun of Aphrodite’s fury?

[distant night]

i think the only thing that helps against that is the athena poseidon duo boon 🤔

[broken sonnet]

where does one go to submit a request for a QOL feature addition? not really a bug report. the kind of thing that gets a in the patch notes

[distant night]

the suggestion channel got closed as v1.0 came out :c

[timid slate]

ah man

i seen a 60 heat clear with bow hidden aspect

i took my bow and went

gg rekt at 15 heat

;-;

[broken sonnet]

yeah, thats why i'm asking. is there no replacement?

[distant night]

hidden bow is scary

[distant night]

nope sorry :c

[broken sonnet]

[distant night]

you can only brainstorm for hades mods int he official server in #self-promotion but else no

[narrow hemlock]

the feedback was primarily for the purpose of early access. the closest thing now i suppose would be #test-branch-discussion but otherwise there is no dedicated space for that other than the the suggestions & feedback subforum on the hades steam forum

[timid slate]

ares lovemail? ;o

i like ur name

D:

[arctic zenith]

Nectar is useless

[distant night]

it gets you keepsakes, gives health with the dio boon and progresses story 🤔 later on it can even give another upgrade
are you sure about that

[arctic zenith]

I was joking because I’ve gotten everybody past the point of nectar sorry if it didn’t translate well to text.

[broken sonnet]

then consider them to be 1/10th a diamond

[distant night]

oh sry

[arctic zenith]

Ye

No problem

[distant night]

diamonds for the music boi

[winter harbor]

It's such a tough choice between taking a guaranteed chaos fish or a trial

I ended up taking the trial but I really wanted to work on filling out the codex

[arctic zenith]

||Charon|| is so hard to beat

[green maple]

oop damage if i get hit

[still tundra]

So quick observation on the storyteller, I think it's Logan Cunningham. Whoever reads the grey-on-black text.
The voice bears an uncanny resemblance to the opening narration from 1995's The Outer Limits (Kevin Conway, not to be confused with Kevin Conroy)

[distant night]

bonk intensifies

[latent yoke]

Hey gamers what is the track that plays in the god trial in elysium

[distant night]

and you are right that it's him ||https://hades.gamepedia.com/Logan_Cunningham ||

[still tundra]

Yeah, I thought it was Kevin Conway. I wonder if it's an intentional choice or just a coincidence. Sadly Kevin Conway passed last year

[arctic zenith]

Well I just beat ||Charon|| no-hit

[molten depot]

underworld market music stops

[distant night]

if you look at the keepsake in your boon hotbar you see a tiny "1" below, it only guarantees that one boon for as long as you have it equipped

so if you have it equipped in tart and didnt take any of his boons yet you are still guaranteed to get one in asphodel if you dont swap it out

hovered over it in the keepsake menu or the boon stat screen? o.O

[distant night]

huuh, thats something new

[true quartz]

How did you know that a chaos fish was guaranteed to spawn?

[distant night]

probably the fishing point buyable from the charon well

[true quartz]

Oh there is a fishing buyable? Nice^^

[remote forge]

I'm pretty sure the Narrator voice is implied to be like Homer or someone such

Though it's never explicitly stated

Gotta love how he just casually spoils the main plot point so early on.

"Oops"

[distant night]

i think there's a hint about who it is exactly

[remote forge]

My guess would be Homer, Hesiod, etc

[distant night]

but i honestly dont remember when/what it is

[remote forge]

He's definitely some old dead mortal

[distant night]

most guess on Kronos

[remote forge]

Nah, Zag calls him a shade at some point

[distant night]

he calls him "Old man" never shade

[remote forge]

His whole style doesn't match a Titan god or anything

Storyteller shade is much more fitting

It doesn't really matter but

[narrow hemlock]

hint: ||interact with the poet's bust a lot||

[remote forge]

The ||Poet's Bust|| is of Homer.

[narrow hemlock]

yes.

there is some commentary if you poke it enough

[distant night]

i thought the ||3rd statue|| was the hint

[remote forge]

Also the narrator's zeal for describing Zagreus' deaths is pretty Homeric lol

[distant night]

wait was this the 3rd?

[remote forge]

I enjoy when he says "let's just say Zagreus was hit by a fast moving chariot".

[distant night]

awh man now i'm sad

[narrow hemlock]

not sure what you're referring to, the ||skelly statues?||

[distant night]

yeah

[remote forge]

A bust is a statue from the shoulders up @distant night

[distant night]

i heard it somewhere

[remote forge]

So if you mean the statues by Hades' room's door then yes

[distant night]

reddit or tumblr i think

[remote forge]

Same thing

[distant night]

i dont

but it's ok

now i'm just depressed that it isnt the master of time who actually tells of everything because he went bonkers over time itself and is spoiling zag because of that

[remote forge]

Unrelated but does anyone else feel really bad about only paying $20/25?

It's like with Hollow Knight

The price is just too low tbh

[distant night]

it's on sale for 16€

i get it but it's worth so much more

[analog elbow]

You could always gift or purchase on other platforms

[remote forge]

I've already bought 4 copies

[analog elbow]

Damn!

[remote forge]

For other people I mean

People keep saying "oh yeah that looks neat but I have other games to play"

So I just get it for them

And then a week later they're completely hooked

[analog elbow]

I mean, for most of the world 20 dollars or euros is quite a bit

But I agree, the value you get for that is incredible

[remote forge]

It's like 2 meals or 5-6 coffees here.

It's not a huge amount, but it's not nothing either.

[distant night]

honestly 20€ for a game isnt that much

[remote forge]

It's insanely cheap for the value it offers.

[distant night]

especially considering what kinda theft triple A games go through with even less than half the content of Hades

[remote forge]

I've played plenty of $60 games with far less content, far worse gameplay, and far less polish

[distant night]

exactly

but i guess this makes buying the bundle with the soundtrack at least worth much more

[remote forge]

If there's one thing about Hades that truly stands out it's just how damn polished it is.

Those years of open access were not wasted.

[distant night]

since you really want to give sgg more appreciation (and goddamnit the music is too good)

[remote forge]

Except you, Cold Embrace. Not you.

Worst duo by a landslide.

[edgy salmon]

when you only need to gift than once more but he keeps disappearing 😭

[remote forge]

It's also noticeable that in every interview I've seen with SGG employees or collaborators

They uh

Look like they're having fun?

So that's nice.

Also I appreciate that the dogs who voiced Cerberus got credits

Supergiant has one really big glaring flaw as a company though, and that's that they're absolutely terrible at ||disappointing their fans||.

All the big studios somehow manage to do it, I don't get why they're so bad at it.

[analog elbow]

Try Cold Embrace with a shield or fist build

[remote forge]

It's just too narrow.

Positioning the beams is way too weird when you're dodging enemies.

If they like, had an AoE where they cross or something that would be great.

[analog elbow]

That's the thing, if you have an melee build, it's not half bad

[remote forge]

But it's both too precise and too finicky.

I mean I do mostly play Spear and Bow.

[distant night]

Crystal Clarity >>>>>>>>>>> Cold Embrace

[remote forge]

Crystal Clarity is a must have for meme beams

Crystal Clarity + meme beams + Stygian soul + extra casts

Literally ridiculous

[distant night]

love how everybody accepted that it's a meme beam

[remote forge]

meme beams and splash dash are real names

[distant night]

i always thought of is as "free hydra"

[remote forge]

It's like how in counterstrike certain areas are called "heaven" even if they're labeled something else

They're just the de facto names

Anyhow the problem is that for meme beams with cold embrace to work you have to literally be on top of an enemy

You can't make 3 of them all line up at once easily

So it loses out to any other beam build on DPS

[brisk trail]

u can if u got a big brian

and/or are using a melee weapon

[remote forge]

Pretty much only fists

[brisk trail]

I made it work w sord

[remote forge]

I just love me some spear.

[brisk trail]

spear prob not

[remote forge]

Spear's got it all.

Every aspect is good in its own way.

[brisk trail]

spear grew on me

[remote forge]

You have a great range of attack options

[brisk trail]

probably because I stopped using zag aspect

[remote forge]

Dash attack is great for instance

[pliant sparrow]

zag aspect is bad tho

[remote forge]

Dash attack + Athena is amazing

Yeah Zag aspect is whatever

[brisk trail]

retreating dash attack on spear is insane

[remote forge]

But the other three are all great and varied

[pliant sparrow]

hades spear is kinda a worse version of archilles

[brisk trail]

idk if you can do it on controller

[remote forge]

I enjoy all non-Zag spear aspects

[remote forge]

Nah, Achilles spear is actually Gandalf's staff

[brisk trail]

hades spear is melee achilles

[remote forge]

It's for cast builds mainly

[pliant sparrow]

ik archilles is good

[remote forge]

The rush is just for positioning

[pliant sparrow]

but hades is a slower version to get buff

[remote forge]

You don't need to hit anyone with it tbh

Though weak on special and crit on attack is great

With the duo for extra crits on weak enemies

[brisk trail]

quick spin hades is in my top 5 favorite aspects

idk why but I really like chill attack on spear

[remote forge]

I prefer Hidden aspect spear, Chiron bow and Hidden aspect bow

And Hidden aspect sword is fun too

[brisk trail]

I love all swords

[remote forge]

Hera bow and Hades spear also fun

Hidden aspect spear with Poseidon special and Sea Storm is hilarious

And fast special from Hermes

Yeet beam build

[brisk trail]

world splitter tempest strike zag sword

yeet stick

[remote forge]

Every throw inflicts Jolted and Razor Shoals

Just melts everything

[pliant sparrow]

i mean... you might as well put poseidon on dash

[remote forge]

Yeah that too

Once you have sea storm especially

Sea storm makes the Hidden aspect special super wide hitbox

It's great.

[brisk trail]

I really enjoyed my sea storm zeus aspect run

[pliant sparrow]

im pretty sure seastorm doesnt affect the hitbox

w/o seastorm the hitbox is big

[magic wing]

Tfw you chose the wrong chaos boon by accident and get left with 4 max health

Died immediately in the next room

[distant night]

hmm, sounds like hidden spear

[remote forge]

It affects the hitbox slightly

But the main thing is that it drags enemies to the end point of the throw

Which the base special on the hidden aspect does not do.

So if you have stuff like sea storm the lightning becomes much more effective.

It adds a (real life) rip tide like effect.

Bunches up any enemies you hit.

[pliant sparrow]

sea storm only does like 40 damage tho

[remote forge]

If you're into positioning and spacing builds it's excellent.

By default,

[pliant sparrow]

heartrend does 1k

[remote forge]

But add the double lightning, chain effects, jolted, razor shoals...

And slamming into walls

And it does a ton of damage while exposing you to very little risk.

And requires no setup

Just point and aim.

Razor Shoals + Static Discharge also gives you an instant +40% damage from the one mirror talent

Privileged Status?

[pliant sparrow]

sounds like it requires a ton of stuff to fully build but sounds interesting i'll try it

[remote forge]

Not really

You basically just get Poseidon special and then Zeus dash

And then you don't have to do much to get the rest as you play

[pliant sparrow]

i mean to get on par with heartrend damage

[remote forge]

Heart Rend is better on Achilles

Aphro special to inflict weak and dash through enemies

Then backstab with Artemis attack/cast for massive damage

[pliant sparrow]

true its just kinda of hard to get heartrend if ur going a cast build tho

[remote forge]

Not really

Just use Artemis cast and attack

And/or

Achilles also boosts attack damage, not just cast

[pliant sparrow]

conventionally zeus cast tho

for room clearing

[remote forge]

I prefer really high single target damage imo

But also spear attack can be aoe if you use the dash attack

Which Artemis attack buffs

Throw Aphro special through enemies, then backstab with Artemis dash attack for massive crit damage

[pliant sparrow]

you have spear attack artemis for single target already, you can afford to put aoe on cast

[remote forge]

Spear dash attack is aoe

[brisk trail]

hunting blades achilles sounds like a good time

[pliant sparrow]

especially for higher heats as the rooms become more difficult than boss

[remote forge]

It's just mid range aoe

[remote forge]

Oh it is especially with support fire and pressure points

[brisk trail]

nonhidden spear dash attack is p weak tho

only 20 base dmg

not horrible but not great

[remote forge]

That's why you put Artemis on it

[pliant sparrow]

and serrated edge

[remote forge]

Crits are inconsistent but very high damage on weak enemies

[brisk trail]

ye

couldve sworn it was 20

[remote forge]

I had a fun Hidden aspect sword build recently

[distant night]

ah dash

i read just normal attack

my bad

[remote forge]

Where I did Dem/Dio mainly

Literally all of the damage reduction

[brisk trail]

hidden sword can p much win on its own below 20 heat

[distant night]

normal is 25, dash is 20

[remote forge]

Nothing did more than 10 damage at a time

And everyone was in sloooooow motiooooon

Also Athena dash for good measure

The only weapon I can't really get into is fists

Just too much damage taken

Unless I have Athena/Ares

Then it's just broken

Spam dash attack to clear every room

[brisk trail]

I love fists so much

it makes sense why you wouldn't like them since u like spear a lot

[remote forge]

Spear and Bow are my main weapons

They're great

Love that midrange vibe

[karmic trellis]

i want to argue right now. which is the best character in hades. it is most definitely nyx or poseidon

[brisk trail]

I like getting up close and personal

[remote forge]

Dionysus?

[distant night]

shadebro

[karmic trellis]

oh yeah forgot about him he pretty cool

[remote forge]

I was baptized in the Greek Orthodox Church as Dionysis, so that helps lol

It's literally my (other) name.

[distant night]

omg

[karmic trellis]

i haven't met thana yet

[distant night]

"thana"

[karmic trellis]

i don't care

[distant night]

thanos but different

[karmic trellis]

THANATOS OKAY

[remote forge]

Thanos is already short for Athanassios

[karmic trellis]

MAKE YOU HAPPY

[remote forge]

Thanos is the nickname version

[distant night]

who would think of thanos as nickname to thanatos and not the big purple guy

[remote forge]

It's like Tassos and Anastassios

Which means rebirth rather than death

Same name as Anastasia and such

[karmic trellis]

man's knows too much

[distant night]

names

[remote forge]

In modern Greek culture it's common to name your first son after your paternal grandfather

So chains of firstborn sons named Thanos, Tassos, Thanos, Tassos is common

Death, rebirth, death, rebirth, etc

[karmic trellis]

why do you know so much. i want to be smarter than you

[distant night]

no louise 14

how sad

[remote forge]

Greek fam lol

I spend a lot of time in Greece

[karmic trellis]

makes sense

[distant night]

jealous of that man :/

[remote forge]

Greece is a lovely place

[distant night]

it really is

[remote forge]

Just get out of the cities into the villages

[distant night]

and the language is pretty

[remote forge]

But you have to have family there

[distant night]

ik

[karmic trellis]

i was planning to go to greece this year but then "CURRENT WORLD EVENT" happened

[remote forge]

Too many people spend time on tourist islands and such

[distant night]

the lava is the actual asphodel boss 👀

[remote forge]

But Greece is a big place with so many different regional cultures.

[karmic trellis]

asphodel is the worse floor imo

[distant night]

thats sad but understandable, literally tourist places

[karmic trellis]

that lava

ooooh

[remote forge]

Samos, Mykonos, and Lesbos especially

[distant night]

i just wanna see greece once

[remote forge]

Though Athens itself is worth visiting even as a tourist.

[karmic trellis]

sorry, last year

[distant night]

idc about being a tourist

[remote forge]

The Acropolis museum is excellent

[brisk trail]

ive never been out of the western hemisphere but I want to

[remote forge]

They have on the ground floor, well, floors made of glass

And underneath is a dig

[narrow hemlock]

#off-topic-discussion please!

[remote forge]

So you can look down and see whole homes and buildings and etc

Its amazing

Also they have a great cafe/restaurant on the top floor

With a beautiful view of the Parthenon

[karmic trellis]

@remote forge !!!

[remote forge]

Noted!

[distant night]

this makes me wonder if hades will ever support the greek language

i mean i get it, not that widely used but........ hades is literally about greek mythology

[karmic trellis]

woah

there has to be a roman god in there somewhere

[distant night]

?

[karmic trellis]

we need to find them

[distant night]

roman gods were derived from greek ones

[karmic trellis]

yes but roman gods have different names than the greek ones

[distant night]

dio = roman bacchus; aphro = roman venus 🤔

[karmic trellis]

i.e. heracles versus hercules

[distant night]

was hercules a roman thing or just a cooler mistranslation o.o

i never looked into that O.O

[karmic trellis]

idk ask @remote forge he's smart

[distant night]

lol

you summoned them

[remote forge]

"Hercules" is via the Roman version of "Heracles"

[distant night]

awh man

[remote forge]

Heraklis is the closest transliteration of the original name.

[remote forge]

So yes, you're right.

[distant night]

i always thought it was just a romanized cooler mistranslation cause heracles sounds awkward on the roman roots language tongue

wait what

[remote forge]

Hercules is a Roman thing

Heracles is the original name

[distant night]

:c

[remote forge]

Hercules is via Roman corruption

[distant night]

yeah i never thought it was roman corruption

[remote forge]

Linguistic corruption

[distant night]

sad sad

happens too often

[karmic trellis]

maybe we shouldn't say roman corruption

sounds a little ehhh

[remote forge]

They did run the world, much like Beyoncé suggested girls did

[distant night]

:)

[karmic trellis]

i mean you're correct buttttttt

[distant night]

thats a smooth remark damn

[remote forge]

Corruption is a linguistic term

[distant night]

smart and smooth

[remote forge]

Doesn't imply political corruption or anything

[distant night]

no wonder you're powerful swim-swims

[remote forge]

Though if you want something informed by political corruption... points at the Aeneid

Virgil was a shill for Augustus lol

[karmic trellis]

it was 4000 years ago (idk i'm not smart) we can prolly say it

[distant night]

dont bring politics into this gamer group

[karmic trellis]

we gaminggg

[distant night]

i beg

[remote forge]

Look it's about ethics in coliseum journalism

Okay I'm done lol. I need to go make dinner.

[distant night]

we just here to stan Hadeez nuts and basic greek mythology

may the noms be in your favor lad

[hexed shore]

Hey dees, don't make it bad

[supple lodge]

everytime I read "hadeez nuts" i wheezelaugh a bit

[karmic trellis]

weirdchamp

[random spear]

Pog champion

[keen scarab]

1:44 in already have the duo boon i was going for :)

why does this never happen when i try to do merciful end

[onyx gyro]

Hi I've lost all my progress!!!

Opened the game and blank file!

[prisma wind]

There are some potential solutions in #h1-tech-fixes

And if those don't work, I suggest asking for help in #h1-tech-support

[winter harbor]

It does nothing

Well, it still buffs your DDs, but you won't get an additional one

[brazen delta]

Heyo, does anyone know if it's possible to reroll rooms until you get special character rooms (||Sisyphus, Eurydice, Patroclus||)?

Want to make sure before I start spamming all my rerolls

[brisk trail]

nop

can only reroll rooms into those of the same type

[brazen delta]

coo cool, thanks!

[brisk trail]

np

[brazen delta]

Ah like blue and gold laurel rooms?

[brisk trail]

I'm pretty sure there's a guide pinned somewhere

[brazen delta]

What are the laurels for special character rooms?

[brisk trail]

yeah

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/520688402958516254/660997121406926849/hades_room_rewards_guide.png

[brazen delta]

Amazing, thank you!

I actually never knew the difference between all the skull icons so this is useful regardless

[brisk trail]

npnp

they also give extra rewards

p sure I got 3 keys from one of em once

[brazen delta]

yeee I know that, p sure boons have a higher chance of being a higher rarity too

[lunar cypress]

Have they added bophades yet @supple lodge ?

[balmy valley]

where i can see my total amount of clears?

[lunar cypress]

There's an unlock at the buildy lads for stats

[balmy valley]

oh okay

[lunar cypress]

@balmy valley IIRC its ||access to the records room||

[lavish skiff]

||how much darkness do you need to upgrade the sigil in the admin chamber||?(relationship spoiler)

[lunar cypress]

It should just be a thing you buy at the contractor

[lavish skiff]

oh

i was looking at the actual thing

lol

[lunar cypress]

I think you just do it there. If not you have to go ||ask Nyx|| , I don't recall specifically which

I imagine at the contractor though, its basically how you do everything else

[lavish skiff]

well ||she told me about it and has no exclamation marks|| so i think its the former

[brisk trail]

bout 3k

[lavish skiff]

i dont need to know how much it is

just where to do it

[versed verge]

Yeah they added bophades with the 1.0 patch but you can only meet him after you unlock updog

[lunar cypress]

Dang

[lavish skiff]

i cant tell what ratio of truth/bit this is

[versed verge]

You know what updog is right kirbox?

[lavish skiff]

yea

but not the first thing

[versed verge]

Huh, im not sure I can say that punchline here tho in my defense it's not my joke

[lavish skiff]

oh does it involve a sw**r

[brisk trail]

https://twitter.com/mistyfront/status/1338669297099563012?s=19

Misty^ (@mistyfront)

this has to be my favorite conversation in hades

Likes

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Twitter · Dec 15, 2020, 2:16 AM

[lavish skiff]

lol

[versed verge]

Yeah that

Was unsure if saying nuts is okay lol

[lavish skiff]

probably is

if it isnt automodded its probably fine

i think

[brazen delta]

is that conversation real

[versed verge]

Also my favorite one is when Hades responds "of course i know bophades, he's found in updog" "what's updog dad" "not much how about you son" and then zag dies

[lavish skiff]

does that happen?

[languid plover]

Welcome to the internet~

[brazen delta]

no way that convo is real

[versed verge]

The misty's is fake but mine is real

[brisk trail]

it took like 15 minutes to make lol

[versed verge]

mine is fake too lmao

[lavish skiff]

i thought so

[versed verge]

If it was real I'd spoil it

Like me saying dusa is the real final boss is joke

[lavish skiff]

but like what if

[versed verge]

And then a developer pings me and says to spoil final boss talk

[lavish skiff]

also you should probably spoiler it because then people know that the final boss isnt dusa

lol

[manic bobcat]

I mean

[versed verge]

I think saying who the final boss isn't is fine since then you would have to spoil every single character

Eminem is the final boss

[lavish skiff]

well you can talk about the person who is the final boss

just not that that person is the final boss

[versed verge]

Yeah I know

I know I have to spoil saying that Batman is the final boss

[languid plover]

Secret Boss is Dusa but she find her body and reattached to it lol

[lavish skiff]

she has wings and brass talons and chicken feet

and if you hit her on her left side you die instantly you die instantly but if you hit her on the right you heal all damage and get all dds back

[versed verge]

No that's her sisters

The gorgan sisters had chick feet and medusa had a tail

[lavish skiff]

oh i thought they were all the same but medusa could also petrify

[versed verge]

funny enough you could make ||dusa look like the final boss by summoning her companion when hades goes invisible||

[lavish skiff]

it would be funny if achilles were perseus instead

[versed verge]

Well techinally it depends on the myth for what they look like

[lavish skiff]

||well the health bar would still say hades||

[versed verge]

But most say medusa looks different since she was bearer of the curse not just a helper like her sisters

[versed verge]

Photoshop

[winter harbor]

Wasn't Medusa the only mortal and the other gorgons were immortal?

[lavish skiff]

oh is there special dialogue for || talking to dusa with poseidon keepsake?||

[versed verge]

Yes

[versed verge]

Is don't think so since I don't think she's actually medusa

[rancid vapor]

How much HP does ||Hades|| have in EM4? a full bar I mean?

[lavish skiff]

well her name is dusa so who else would she be

[versed verge]

Yeah but I think it like states that she isn't medusa

[lavish skiff]

well she is just a head

and medusa was decapitated

and until i know that dialogue exists imma presume that shes medusa

[versed verge]

Valid

[winter harbor]

The other medusa heads you see in asphodel are just heads too

[lavish skiff]

fair enough

[versed verge]

And I know for sure she says she's like them but different

[lavish skiff]

but also it doesnt make sense that there are more than 3 gorgons

[winter harbor]

I think it says in the codex they were grown from something

But Dusa does allude to a past life

[versed verge]

Yes but I think countless things do something like that where it's supposed to be mythology yet adds more of a creature

Like bayonetta should technically have like only 1 of certain angels yet has multiple

[lavish skiff]

i wouldnt know

but makes sense

[dry schooner]

so wait

|| beating hades once and then its just a repeat of the same thing with debuffs? ||

[lavish skiff]

wdym

[dry schooner]

same floors, same fights rinse and repeat?

[drifting citrus]

is there a single weapon that doesn't give me carpel tunnel?

[dry schooner]

i dont think so 🤔

[drifting citrus]

sigh never finishing this game.....ah well

[lavish skiff]

no its not the same floors

[warped valley]

poseidon sword and artemis cast?

[lavish skiff]

it randomizes

[dry schooner]

it does?

[willow python]

hi i just started this game ant tips?

[dry schooner]

i mean to a point yes

[warped valley]

just spam cast and special and see what happens

[dry schooner]

but its the same sequence

[lavish skiff]

like each biome is in the same order yeah

but the rooms are different every time

[dry schooner]

right but its the repeat of the same bosses

[lavish skiff]

yeah

[dry schooner]

3 sisters or diff versions of the worm

[warped valley]

@willow python accept that you will die

[dry schooner]

that felt way too short

[willow python]

ok

[lavish skiff]

thats how roguelites go

you do the thing

[dry schooner]

sad

[lavish skiff]

and then you win or you lose

[dry schooner]

binding of isaac felt much much longer tho

[lavish skiff]

and then you do it again but different

[dry schooner]

comparatively

[willow python]

i made it past the first place my 3rd try but the bone snake is hard

[lavish skiff]

binding of isaac only has gameplay

hades also has a bunch of story

[dry schooner]

i mean yea if you factor in dialogue, story, animations, etc

yes

i felt itd be longer or further than ||persephone|| once

[lavish skiff]

well then make the game harder

[warped valley]

@willow python what’s your play style like? I like dashstriking a lot so I built around that for a while.

that won’t last forever, worry not

[lavish skiff]

i dont think that normally happens

[willow python]

idk i like dashstriuking to but the bow workd different then that for me

[lavish skiff]

or maybe it does but it reverses

either way dont worry

[warped valley]

it happened to me also

[rapid forum]

dash striking with bow is slightly diff, it makes the charge faster

if you notice

[willow python]

oh ok

[dry schooner]

the bow is a weapon i never managed to use

felt too slow

[warped valley]

I eventually got used to the bow but it was tough for me

[rapid forum]

there's a certain rhythm

with bow

[willow python]

i mainly play sheild but i havnt unlocked the last weapon yet

[rapid forum]

oh you mean the gun

[willow python]

ya

[lavish skiff]

i play mostly with hidden sword and hidden bow

[warped valley]

shield is fun! try it with zeus boons

[lavish skiff]

well

debatable

[willow python]

ok i hsve 5 keys rn

[lavish skiff]

some people detest gun, some people swear by it

[warped valley]

I hate the gun haha

[lavish skiff]

same

i have had a lot of builds

[dry schooner]

gun is the best once you get || thors hammer burst fire ||

easily

[prisma wind]

If you equip another weapon he should respawn

[rapid forum]

I used to hate gun

but ever since I got a wisdom of eris

I hate it slightly less

[lavish skiff]

grinding for duos seems like a lot of work to make a weapon i dont like work even a little bit

[willow python]

lol

[warped valley]

I’ve won with the gun I just don’t like it

[rapid forum]

delta chamber

[lavish skiff]

yeah i have ||9 heat|| with gun but i dont like it

[rapid forum]

I mean it's fine

very much prefer spread fire

with zag gun

[dry schooner]

its on the ||hammer|| lambda

[warped valley]

the triple special is a game changer

especially triple + rocket

[lavish skiff]

or with hidden gun

[dry schooner]

wait what

[willow python]

hidden?

[rapid forum]

triple + rocket is too slow for my taste

[lavish skiff]

if you dont know what i mean by hidden then just ignore

[willow python]

ok

[lavish skiff]

itll come up later

[rapid forum]

hmmmmm

I should play that again

[lavish skiff]

what

hades?

[rapid forum]

hidden gun

[lavish skiff]

oh yeah

[rapid forum]

I haven't played that in a while

[lavish skiff]

hidden and hestia are my two most bearable guns

[warped valley]

I saw like a zero-boon run using hestia

em4 iirc

[rapid forum]

last time I did hidden, I got athena attack, the 3 way shot and infinite ammo

it didn't deal any damage

like

it's pretty crap

but the deflect

[lavish skiff]

also its kinda funny that hazard bomb can work with eris

[rapid forum]

is pretty gud

[rapid forum]

I did that

was a nightmare

[lavish skiff]

does shackle make that much of a difference?

[tribal glade]

quick question for anyone who has used the cross-save feature - can you constantly change your save from switch to pc and back again? if so, how painful/painless is the process?

[rapid forum]

100% extra damage with shackle

[lavish skiff]

or do you deal no damage while trying to dodge everything

i like bow the most

[rapid forum]

if y'all ever wanna do a boonless run

[lavish skiff]

fists are fun too

[rapid forum]

I recommend zag bow

[lavish skiff]

oh yeah cause crit

[smoky sparrow]

ahahahahahaha

[rapid forum]

yep

[lavish skiff]

what is it

[smoky sparrow]

idk

i got it a week ago and i have 50 hours

[lavish skiff]

same

[smoky sparrow]

[lavish skiff]

i dont understand what that emote is intended to mean

[smoky sparrow]

hey red

[lavish skiff]

i dont get it

[smoky sparrow]

i willll alwayssss findd youuuu

[lavish skiff]

i read the emote name and it continues to not make sense

[smoky sparrow]

when you speak i hear silenceee

[gritty roost]

Red is the main character of Transistor

[lavish skiff]

ok but why use that emote in that situation

[smoky sparrow]

Hades

[gritty roost]

well tbh the guy pretty much always say random stuff for the past few days i've seen him (no offense), he's just vibin' man lol

[smoky sparrow]

Hedis

very sad

i am fat

very sad

[warped valley]

huh? magnet fist + poseidon is easy mode

[lavish skiff]

remember to hydrate, gamers

[smoky sparrow]

oh hey treebot is here

[lavish skiff]

meme build but it kinda works

[brazen delta]

Question: when you take a Chaos boon that makes it more likely for boons to be rare or better, does that make it more likely for boons to become epic/heroic/legendary too or does it just make it less likely for boons to be common?

[smoky sparrow]

huh bri'ish

[gritty roost]

hydrate and take small breaks often, STAND UP and stretch, too much sitting is bad mmkay?

[brazen delta]

ah okay

that ain't that great then, I rarely get commons as is

thanks!

yes yes and have it return to being straight-backed for a solid 30 secs before you forget again

if ye have a Switch get Ring-Fit Adventure, highly recommend

[prisma wind]

I want to see someone clear Hades on a Ring Fit controller

[warped valley]

which mirror upgrade is better, the higher legendary chance or the higher epic chance?

[brazen delta]

Beat Saber also super fun, but Ring-Fit works much better as a general workout!

Beat Saber good for cardio tho

[gritty roost]

nobody attempted this yet?!

[warped valley]

it’s like 40% vs 15% when maxed out, isn’t it?

[prisma wind]

The higher chance for <x> mirror upgrades depend a lot on what you're building for

[prisma wind]

I haven't looked to see. Someone has done it on a dance pad, though

[warped valley]

I’m building for the world’s first clear using donkey kong bongos

[gritty roost]

DK bongos doo eet, I was just thinking about that lol

[tribal glade]

that would be pretty cool to see @warped valley good luck!

[brazen delta]

DJ Hero deck

[gritty roost]

Hmm i use LB for rails reload

So much better than default

[brazen delta]

wait right joystick is default reload on controllers?

[gritty roost]

Ye

[brazen delta]

oh dear

[prisma wind]

Yeah, it's weird... I use left stick myself

[brazen delta]

I know Hades is supposedly better with a controller but I couldn't imagine not using keyboard and mouse

idk the aiming just makes more sense to me on keyboard and mouse, same with Gungeon

[gritty roost]

Im so used to using controller i failed horribly during my run with kbm

[tribal glade]

the controller has some aim-assist built in

[gritty roost]

You have auto aim with controller though

[tribal glade]

which helps

[gritty roost]

Yus

[brazen delta]

yeah I get that

Don't like the idea of auto aiming choosing to shoot at something I don't want tho

I like that precision

that's just me tho

[gritty roost]

Though for gungeon its the other way. I cant play with controller

[brazen delta]

It could also be that I've never tried controller with Hades but I'm 90 hours in and not stopping now

[tribal glade]

you can get some good precision with controller, but its not perfect

its quick though (imo)

[brazen delta]

I wish the Switch cross saves function was cloud saves instead

[prisma wind]

It's hard to beat the snap of the auto aim on controller for rapidly spawning in enemies

[gritty roost]

On the topic of switch cross save, does it work both ways?

[prisma wind]

There are times when it feels like you're an aimbot with the rats spawning in Styx

[prisma wind]

It does, yes

[brazen delta]

Is it possible to keep doing it back and forth?

[gritty roost]

Like if im playing on switch i can continue on steam the next day?

[prisma wind]

Yup!

[gritty roost]

AND back to switch the next day?

[prisma wind]

As long as you are online when you save, and you select "Save and Sync" on the Switch it will upload to the cloud save server

[gritty roost]

Thats neat

[prisma wind]

Likewise for Steam/EGS

[gritty roost]

Now im thinking of double dipping lol

[brazen delta]

Oh really that's all you have to do?

Is it just one button press?

[prisma wind]

It's hard to not do it, yes. Unless you're offline

[brazen delta]

that's good news

was trying to find out about that but couldn't get an answer on here when the feature was first released

might pick it up on my Switch then

[finite solar]

Question does Strong Drink negate sysiphus boon?

Or am I bugging

[prisma wind]

You mean the keepsake? No, it shouldn't negate it

[finite solar]

Oh oki

[prisma wind]

Only boons in the dedicated slots should override Shattered Shackle

[brazen delta]

I wish cross saves info was more apparent without actually buying the game on Switch and reading the info there

watchu mean?

[finite solar]

Hammers don’t affect the keepsake either

Like flurry slash for example?

[prisma wind]

Not sure if you're agreeing or questioning because the first was a statement and the second a question, so I'll assume you're asking for clarification?
Hammers also don't affect Shattered Shackle

[winter harbor]

Only core boon slots do

So feel free to take chaos

[finite solar]

Okay thank you guys

[brazen delta]

I assume you mean the final boss?

What gets you hit the most

[cobalt wigeon]

boiling blood

[finite solar]

I’m screaming

[brazen delta]

Struggling to dodge them when he fires them?

[cobalt wigeon]

yeah

[narrow hemlock]

the final boss is a spoiler in this channel, please use spoiler tags :>

[brazen delta]

A few tips for the final boss (||his second phase||):
||- When he summons the green vases try and clear up as much area as you can quickly be attacking them so you don't accidentally get hit by them later

• Wait until the boiling blood skulls are right next to you before dodging them as they have a small amount of homing. Once you've dodged, try your best to destroy the skulls as quickly as possible
• For Hades's swing attacks, don't dodge immediately when he signals he's about to attack. It might be hard to fight that instinct, but if you can get the timing right you can dodge his attacks very easily
• When he fires his laser attack, just get behind one of the rocks and chill until he's done||

If you can get the hang of it, the ||second phase is actually much easier than the first|| imo

Hope that helps

[cobalt wigeon]

[rapid forum]

I came back from my EM4 hidden rail run

died at the end

[supple lodge]

Oh man i had a run just now with my friend watching where i got to final boss ||phase 2|| but died

furthest i've ever gotten

50-something runs so far

this redacted sure hits really hard

[humble maple]

aegis makes it too easy

[iron badge]

is lambent plume considered overpowered?

[rapid forum]

not necessarily but can be

[hearty plover]

had a dream where i unlocked the last weapon
it looked odd

it was like
a shield, a sword, and a whip all in one

[rapid forum]

so kratos's blades of chaos?

[brave dove]

wuts the best boons for nemesis aspect?

[mild anchor]

hey, i've been debating between the switch and pc versions

I've heard that the switch version doesn't actually run the game in 1080p when docked, is this true?

[vapid narwhal]

def not 1080p

I'd even say it looks a lot worse docked

very good in handheld mode

[mild anchor]

hmm

have you played both versions on the same display by chance?

[vapid narwhal]

yes, on a Sony 4K TV

the switch version that is

PC it's a 1440p165Hz monitor

I'm not particularly bothered by the docked visuals but it's definitely noticeably worse

[mild anchor]

so the PC version looks markedly better even in 1080p?

[vapid narwhal]

PC is 100% better compared to switch docked

docked is quite notably soft looking

[mild anchor]

alright, thank you so much!

[vapid narwhal]

I play primarily on PC and just use Switch on the go now that cross save is a thing

[rapid forum]

You know I bought switch ver the other day thinking to play on the go

then it hit me I bring my laptop everywhere

[hearty plover]

id buy laptop version

er

pc

whatever you use

movement isn't as easy as on controller but you can aim much easier

[rapid forum]

I play with a controller

it's gud

[winter harbor]

Oh, I was picturing you without a controller on your laptop, and thought that the key bindings wouldn’t feel very nice

[vapid narwhal]

well laptops are even easier to connect controllers to since they all have bluetooth

not even cables required

[south kestrel]

Controller is good, but honestly, aim assist is a must have, it's hard to aim at ennemies with bow or gun.

[rapid forum]

ye

[vapid narwhal]

and then the aim assist pulls your hestia powered shot to a numskull instead of a big dude

[south kestrel]

Yep

T_T

[rapid forum]

tbh

never have that problem

cause I shoot them point blank

:D

[vapid narwhal]

my LB on my first gen elite is also dying from the LB-X combo

(I rebind reload to LB)

[south kestrel]

Aim assist also derps some Cast or Gun Special, but at least, it reaches an enemy. Always better than missing your attack by a TIIINY INCH

[vapid narwhal]

oh yeah it's very noticeable on hera casts

sometimes it goes to some weird places

[rapid forum]

I have a totally-legitimate-and-not-third-party switch pro controller, the bluetooth has a delay

I have no idea why

so I play with cable

[vapid narwhal]

totally-legitimate-and-not-third-party

wonders why

[rapid forum]

yes

It's a trade off I was willing to make

was

[naive swan]

How exactly does the ||Hades ||fight heal mechanic work?

[vapid narwhal]

||EM4?||

[naive swan]

yeah exactly

[rapid forum]

||hades is a pothead||

[vapid narwhal]

||he heals from the green vases, so kill as many as you can, although with enough damage you can out DPS it||

[naive swan]

||he doesn't seem to use as many heals as vases? is there an upper limit to the heal?||

[rapid forum]

1500 x 3

iirc

or was it x 2

[vapid narwhal]

x3, every 25%

[brave dove]

||em3|| ||did thesus just get a chariot and guns||

[rapid forum]

Yes

[brave dove]

||oh god its much harder||

||ASTERIUS HAS A JET TO PROPELL HIM OMG||

[vapid narwhal]

||well EM3 you can put "focus on Asterius" even harder because Theseus will be literally useless lol||

[rapid forum]

He IS the first bull ever on the moon

[brave dove]

||thesus is so much easier to kill.... ||

||bye bye chariot||

||When u tryna boonless run but at the temple of styx 4/5 routes are boons and the 5th one dosent have the sack||

[rapid forum]

Fated authority?

[brave dove]

i have the other one

[dull niche]

probably do authority if ur going boonless

[brave dove]

aight

piercing wave
cruel thrust
or double nova for nemesis aspect?

[dull niche]

i think piercing wave

[brave dove]

aight

[south kestrel]

Except when || you dash absolutely everywhere like a stupid looney toon and get sproutched by his macedonian... TwT ||

[rapid forum]

See there's the problem, you dash

[brave dove]

||i was using arthur sword and i was able to dash, hit, dash, hit||

[south kestrel]

Not my fault, I have to dodge Asterius' attacks! D:

[brave dove]

||since arthur sword u can dash inbetween hits for the combo||

[rapid forum]

I was joking lol

[south kestrel]

I know I know, don't worry :D

[naive swan]

Is the fish you get random?

[south kestrel]

I'm making fun of myself, no worries x)

[gritty roost]

how do you ||unlock companions?||

[rapid forum]

Each biome has their own fish, perfect catch makes the chance of getting rare fish higher

[vapid narwhal]

certain fish only spawns in certain areas

[south kestrel]

It's an end game feature, || you will unlock them by giving specific characters enough nectar and ambrosia. ||

[naive swan]

So perfect catch doesn't always guarantee the best fish?

[vapid narwhal]

nope

[south kestrel]

Exactly

[naive swan]

[south kestrel]

Well, I correct myself ; late game, not end game

[hearty plover]

what's a duo boon?

[gritty roost]

thanks. guess I need to ||give away more nectars then, I've only unlocked the ambrosia-tier gift for Cerby||

[gritty roost]

it's a boon that combines power of 2 gods

[hearty plover]

alright

[naive swan]

@hearty plover You can check your codex and go to an Olympians entry. There is a key you have to press which brings up the list of boons. You can see every Duo boon then and how to get them.

[mellow vault]

not really sure where to ask this but I figured here was the most relevant. Do redirect me please if this isn't the right place.

I just wanted to ask, are you planning to release the sheet music for the Hades OST as well like past games?
I love the soundtrack and would love to be able to play along with some of the tracks.

[naive swan]

@mellow vault I suppose you'd best be off writing at the Supergiant staff.

[hearty plover]

hahah

came into the elysium boss eith 15 health

spoiler: it didnt go well

[primal summit]

Would love to have an alternate path in Hades where we go into deep Tartarus and deeper. Would love to see where all the Titans etc are imprisoned.

[hearty plover]

fists, huh.

oh gosh i do not like these

[primal summit]

Would be the perfect way to introduce new gods and also also replace Daedalus hammers with Hephaestus hammers...

Fists are darn good with the right boons. Just killed everything with an Ares/Aphrodite build

Weak and Doom on everything

[hearty plover]

oh ive just never been an up close person

me like range

[primal summit]

Neither have I tbh. But that build worked for a punch then dash

Then punch again

Used Aphrodite’s dash as well

[hearty plover]

Sorry

[leaden vector]

What does the anvil of fate give to the charon?

[icy vale]

you mean what does it do?

[leaden vector]

yes

[icy vale]

if that's the case, it takes away one of your daedalus hammers and gives you two more random ones

[leaden vector]

a, I saw a description at the bottom of the screen

is it worth buying an anvil of fate? or is it better to buy another? maybe a pomegranate?

I use google translator, language barrier is possible

[naive swan]

Depends on what you got. If your entire build profits massively of the one you got you shouldn't buy. But if you have a special hammer while playing exclusively attack for example i'd consider it really good

[leaden vector]

Divine Strike 8lvl, Heroic Rarity

))

[craggy barn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/761220441049661442/794872014216495144/Hades_17.png

a bed for cerberus

[ripe herald]

good boi deserves

[median schooner]

Narrator: Cerberus now rests eternally in its bed, never to guard its former post at the Styx, much to the displeasure of his master.

[severe pilot]

Hi

[primal summit]

Is Ares a homage to warlocks from Warcraft? I only ask as Curse of Pain, Doom and many of his boons seem to be directly named after Warlock spell or spells of demons.

[vapid narwhal]

curse of pain and similarly named spells existed in settings such as DnD long before WoW

[naive swan]

Does Clean Kill the boon that let's crits deal more damage work additively or multiplicatively? So does +50% dmg put it up to 250% per crit or up to 300%?

[brisk trail]

There is a curse of pain in DnD?

[dull niche]

@naive swan additively I believe

so it’s not as good as it sounds unfortunately

[primal summit]

Is there a curse of pain in DnD? It’s more that curse of agony, curse of pain and doom are all warlock and shadow priest spells in WoW

Also Curse of Vengeance is a spell in WoW also

[vapid narwhal]

I can see it being a possibility though

[next anchor]

WE NEED THIS NOW:
https://reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/knwdrg/finished_my_hades_arcade_build_what_do_you_guys/

[faint flint]

i love stick controllers for shmups

[primal summit]

Seeing that just makes me want coop for Hades

[magic wing]

...I just basically destroyed my keepsake's value this run with a wrong boon choice

[wild ice]

end the game with 1 HP and 0 DD

[next anchor]

ooooooooooooo like Zagraeus with a brother/sister?

[wispy yarrow]

Hi, I just wanted to pop in to ask, does the +% coin boons stack or just add up, because I've picked up 2 of em

[brisk trail]

they add up

most buffs in this game are additive

[arctic zenith]

Was reading the messages from earlier and there was something about beating the game with a ring fit controller so imagine you pulling on the ring like a bow while using the bow.

[brisk trail]

Hey lads, started playing this brilliant game last month (year). QQ, what's the best way to spend the first 6 titan bloods?

[wispy yarrow]

I spent it all on the first fists aspect lol

[arctic zenith]

Well I don’t know about your play style and I only started playing in December so just pick one for the weapon you enjoy best.

[wispy yarrow]

just picked up a third +% coin boon lol

[leaden vector]

is it necessary to pass the "pact of punishment" in order? Or is it possible to go through with three points of heat and drop to two points? Using the same weapon

[brisk trail]

you can do it in any order, but you only get rewards for the lowest bounty you haven't completed

like if it says "raise the heat gauge to 7" and you do a 32 heat run, you only get the rewards for heat 7

[arctic zenith]

If you use gun it’s good to invest into the first aspect as if you invest enough into it, it gets strong fast

[brisk trail]

nemesis is a good bang for your buck

[arctic zenith]

Zeus is great for shield

[brisk trail]

Good question, what I like playing and what I've been most successful with are different things...

I know it's unpopular, but I quite like the Spear...

my first time beating meg was with the bow

on my first run with it no less LOL

[wispy yarrow]

I quite like getting up close with my hits, no rail or bow for me thanks

[supple lodge]

spear gang rise up

[arctic zenith]

Wait spear is unpopular?

[supple lodge]

I like getting the 3 way spear upgrade and rapid jab upgrade

[brisk trail]

bow can be a melee weapon if u want

[leaden vector]

I am thinking of doing a few races to get a little extra blood, for this I need to increase the heat after each game. Is it a normal idea?

[brisk trail]

Needless to say, I was googling for some answers on various reddit threads

But my understanding is the game is quite different now than it was in 2019?

yeah

[arctic zenith]

Huh, spear is my second favorite next to shield

Shield has too much cheese

[brisk trail]

So, after I beat the final boss - farming titan blood becomes easier?

I think that nonhidden shield is my least favorite weapon

yeah

you get another 6 for free basically

[wispy yarrow]

I guess I like the fists the most since I don't usually use ranged specials

[craggy barn]

well since at that point the final boss is easier for you, so yes

[supple lodge]

I don't know how to do shield cheese :(

i like using the fists cuz i can say ora ora ora when holding down atk

thats all

[craggy barn]

teach us your ways shield wielders

[brisk trail]

Spam mouse click 1

[arctic zenith]

Yeah first shield is garbage be I love the Zeus one

[brisk trail]

don't even gotta spam

[supple lodge]

oh you mean the captain america shield throw strat

[brisk trail]

just hold attack and dash after 5 hits

shield throw does a whole 15 damage lmao

[supple lodge]

ooooh

[arctic zenith]

Zeus throw can sort of work as a makeshift trap that you can knock enemies into, or for bosses you can try to space it so it can do extra damage

[wispy yarrow]

As a side note, what's the best way to kill the rats

(with the shield)

[arctic zenith]

Also holding attack is broken

[brisk trail]

bull rush

[arctic zenith]

You don’t

[brisk trail]

shield in a corner while they spawn

[wispy yarrow]

I hate stepping in the poison

[brisk trail]

oh the big ones

[arctic zenith]

Same

[brisk trail]

basically just hope you have a good cast? lol

[arctic zenith]

I mean the energy shot or whatever it’s called is good

[brisk trail]

yeah

[arctic zenith]

Mix that with Minotaur rush

[wispy yarrow]

I don't have a cast or call oops

[brisk trail]

then u just have a bow

[arctic zenith]

Yes

But with a throw

[supple lodge]

i like zeus cast

[wispy yarrow]

More expensive boons means higher rarity?

[arctic zenith]

Expensive?

[void shell]

near the end I assume

[arctic zenith]

Oh in the final shop?

I think so

[wispy yarrow]

I've got 2.5k to spend essentially

Should I buy the diamond? Is it worth it?

[arctic zenith]

Then spend it on the bounty item

Oh

[supple lodge]

you can get a lot of contractor stuff with diamond

[arctic zenith]

I mean decor and story progress

[brisk trail]

yeah always buy the meta rewards in styx

[near kelp]

Chiron Bow + Zeus boons is pretty great

[craggy barn]

if you somehow got 2.5k just buy everything lmao

[wispy yarrow]

Oh actually I can buy everything if I do the math right

Sweet

[near kelp]

Gods help me I've been gifted Hades in christmas

[craggy barn]

thunder flourish 😳 😳

[near kelp]

And I've been playing it for 10 hous each day

[craggy barn]

thank god it was on sale or else my friend wouldn't have been able to buy it for me

[near kelp]

I've recently upgraded my setup so I'm actually out of money right now

[wispy yarrow]

Oh boy time for my second ||Hades|| fight let's go

[arctic zenith]

Same