#h1-discussion
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I swear these language filters give me the biggest migraine
just learn to say letters
Short god
BEYBLADE
ladeus
LET'S FIGHT IN EPIC BATTLES
i just see that tall lad and think of beyblades you arent scary to me
Bcs if it did I'm very curious as to how in the hell he ended up in Elysium
Like mythology? Or in game.
In game
||Nope, you will see||
theseus wasnt trying to kidnap perse, his friend was, he was just along for the ride
sometimes brother sometimes cousin
i just call them all lads
I like the brother angle bcs it's only way that makes it conceivable that there is someone as dumb as theseus
👁️ local theseus lover is lurking (its me)
But again, Theseus tried to help so I doubt Hades would be too happy with any of that
Pirithous had heard of Theseus' courage and might, so he wanted to see it with his own eyes. He stole Theseus' cattle, and Theseus went out to find him. The two met fully armoured and were so impressed with each other that they became close friends.
From mythology. You know, this explains in-game Theseus a lot xD
hades still let him go when heracles came
Ah, so theseus only likes those he defeats
sometimes just acquaintances
i can feel the zag blush from here
Hey bro nice muscle.
Sure bro, you, too.
Know what, let's be friend and beat some blackguards.
Sure, bro, let's commit bully.
I mean, much like every myth under the sun, there are a billion different versions of it and none of them is correct
oop
The only thing that's always consistent is how much of an a-hole he is
and how cursed he is
please dont circumvent the filter though lmao use your customer service personality
I have none
well better learn i guess
Lmao
he is basically like heracles just the budget version
I thought I could use letters mb
anyway i was gonna say that if you look at most heroes of myth beyond their well known deeds most of them were pretty bad regardless
^
Heracles is a goddamn psycho
Dude's more murder happy than a chaotic evil rogue
Also yeah...
I wish Atalanta was in the game
Heracles waiting room gang
🤔
You can't change my mind.
OH YEAH
Another reason why Theseus sucks: Hyppolytus
Poor dude
Screw Aphrodite for that one too
Mythology Theseus and in-game Theseus don't need to coincide though.
Ik
In the end he's funny in game all jokes aside
But he does get on my nerves when I arrive into the arena in a challenging run
Specifically pointed out in game that mythological recordings are not always accurate to people's character. Legends get distorted, don't meet your heroes etc.
@hexed shore @graceful glen Pony Qol update is live on nexus
How they are able to take liberties while showing why those liberties make sense
Like how Zagreus was never mentioned in helenic myth
Yooooo, pogggg
But there are a couple records, mostly in the Mycenaean religion

At least he'd refered by name
Zagreus' myth is mixed up in a lot of ways irl, as explicitly mentioned in several plots in the game.
Tho he's mostly syncretized with Dionysus
I can't find it when I look by new in NexusMods
Can you DM me so I don’t forget? Sorry I just turned my desktop off
look in updated not new
I also like how Poseidon was legit offended Zeus told people Theseus was his son
Lmao
I chuckled
Thank you so much
you're welcome, I hope you'll become a great fisherman
Will there be more story content in the future? Like a dedicated ||chaos|| (not sure how spoilary this is so I'll put in the tag thingy) dedicated floor or something of the sort?
I cannot find https://www.nexusmods.com/?tab=mod+updates
@narrow hemlock Also I forgot to mention it earlier but annoying card :v
Nothing planned right now.
I believe mods might become public soon.
Nothing on GameBanana or ModDB yet either.
o
I would like it for there to be some sort of cool boss rush where you could go through elysium fighting all sorts of heroes
@graceful glen yes
Sounds like potential isle of the blessed content 
🤔
Can't believe the entire city of Atlanta is in Hades
/j
I'm not fully caught up on Greek/Roman mythology sorry
what card?
Atalanta was the only greek hero (I can think of) that happened to have 2 X chromosomes
there are two mods currently with a boss rush feature
Tatz's profile picture is a card from Legends of Runeterra
Hyppolyte?
a boss rush feature
👀
Any of the well known queens of the amazonians
I thought that was Akali's symbol from KDA...
yes i dabble in lor sometimes
I noticed
Me too
I stream it from time to time
But yeah yall tell me it wouldn't be the coolest thing ever to fight Atalanta chucking spears at you while charging on her bear. Then she gets to half HP and she now runs at you instead!
#video-games if this topic is to continue please 
Not specifically "heros" but arachne, pandora, circe, ariadne, helen were all either prominent in myth or had mythd specifically about them
Does your mod have a readme that explains how to install?
Well... we do have that, and better
Just keep playing the game. You will see.
Look, man, I just want to see my girl Atalanta
@graceful glen well yeah I even made a video tutorial
where
You'll meet your waifu one day.
it's right on the mod page

Come on
You don't get much cooler than that
Stay strong, king. 
Also I have a question
||Chaos'|| favor... how in the bloody hell to I start that? I wanna give them the bottle
Well, you can start by... giving them a bottle?
You also have to get Nyx's relationship really high
Yup, Nyx will tell you more.
Fair enough
Oh?
(there's a reason)
keep playing lol
yeah some characters' hearts are connected to other characters, and it takes a bit to get specific lines n all that
Ye
hey, i'm new on game, what's the advantage to give many nectar for someone ?
their love 
Except for 5 people, there is no gameplay reason to go beyond 1 nectar. You get more stories of course. And eventually, you have too many nectars to do what with anyway.
yeah, me too. i want so much this
Dudette has to fight Zag over and over bcs Hades just decided "U deal with this" and well there she goes killing again
Then she has to deal with her sisters
Which, might I add, what the hell is up with Tisiphone? I don't remember her doing that in the myths so I'm a bit out of the loop
first nectar almost always gives a keepsake, giving more nectar can forge a bond and give other rewards and storyupdates
How about you guys keep playing the game and find out where this rabbit hole leads.
To be fair, I never read too much on the furies
Is it just me, or is Exagryph severely underpowered? I stack pretty much all the additional bonuses I can to barely do half of DPS I'd do on Coronacht without bonuses by just spamming the attack button.
Is it just me, or is Exagryph severely underpowered?
Depends on what you put on it. Generally the weapons are very well balanced, with the rail being one of the more popular options, actually. You can check out #h1-builds-and-combat for some tips if you want!
put Zeus on that bad boy
ignore the attack and beg for clusterbomb
My thought exactly, attack damage is just yikes
I feel like it'd be nice if Zag had a sitting down idle animation.
If the hud can go away after a while standing idle, then Zag might be able to take a small rest enjoying the scenery.
Or Eurydice's singing
it doesnt even stun! yet you stand still like an idiot!
Like applying hangover? There are better ways to do that in my opinion
tbh I assumed meg was going to be a tsundre and that's why she was so angry at getting beat, rather than just getting depressed
I need more resources!!! Don’t wanna spend to much time on it
of course but if you gotta go for rail it can at least do that
for priviledged status
My RNG is too wack to use Privileged
even if my rng hates me i can always force 3 gods so priviledged is my boo
Imagine when you get Hoarding strike with about 1,5k and your run still can be considered so low-rolling that you'd be happy it's the last story run. Yes, I have THAT kind of luck.
As in, no health/defiance refills outside of transition fountains whatsoever, no attack boons so I got pretty much hard-carried by shackle.
well i'd say you should plan more for the runs then?
Can't plan to have no refills and no attack boons higher than common
like if you know you need DD refills later on get athena early on to get her tier 2 DD refills
Hoarding strike damage doesn't get buffed by anything IIRC, so it's considered pretty mediocre
if you know you need more epic boons then invest into god's pride
if you need more health go for aphro or demeter
@weary widget I literally only had hoarding strike and that shackle Sisyphus gives you as means to do damage.
it's ok to still force alot of gods mid or even late game, honestly use that power
if you know you need dio's fountain, get him tiger
I have no idea what that means, as I said it was the run I beat the game with, is it like post-progression content?
Or you mean equipping items that force the next boon? Because if I'd do that I'd have even less damage
for no guaranteed attack boon
Forcing gods means exactly that yeah.
Yeah and then I get common attack which is worse than shackle.
Core boons (attack, dash, etc.) have priority so you are pretty likely to see them
you can get a heckton of boons, getting no attack at all is very low of a chance, even common boons are great because they offer debuffs
Boons have benefits beyond % haha
Yes and no, shackle is indeed awesome but it doesn't scale
like aphro, 50% damage bonus and weak curse that makes your enemies attack way weaker
Shackle is for when you cannot reliably keep and hold boons
Boons are better than shackles because you can get tier 2, poms, duos, and legendaries.
invest into the keepsake holder from the house contractor and abuse it
really chose a new keepsake for every stage
I do that. When I actually get attack boons : ^)
Yeah, that is pretty much necessary go get duo boons reliably
rarity isnt even that important, you still can pom the common boon up to be better than an epic boon
you cant do that with the shackle
and the shackle will never make the enemy slower or deflect attacks
Well I think I only had common Poseidon and Dio for the entire run
and thats ok
I got both my hammers at the end of Elysium, and one was unusable (luckily I had a lucky reroll)
experiment with the keepsakes to find which gods you are most comfortable with
I think you are putting too much emphasis on boon rarity. What boon it is and what pom level can make up for rarity.
losing a run gives no penalty what so ever
You will hit some major power spike if you get duos boons or legendary.
it only teaches you for the next run
Most notorious example is Merciful End.
i have done over 2k damage with one hit with a common boon.
can the shackle do that?
I think that too, yeah. But I barely got any poms or hearts either, I had tons of gold tho
At this point, you are essentially debating boons vs shackle. There is a reason shackle is only in play when certain ||pacts|| are enabled
It was my most cursed run ever.
then buy boons
You can buy boons and poms from shop, which you have 2 per biomes
But bad runs happen. It's just natural. Don't let one bad run drag you down
Well I did buy the entire Styx Temple or whatsitsname and still had 1500+ left
but I missed all the shops because reasons
you get boons in the stage shops without potential loss of HP?
i'm sorry if i sound mean but i dont understand the problems you have with your runs
Yeah but at that point I had no money. Look, it's a roguelike, I had to put my chips somewhere.
It was one run, that's why I said it was mega cursed
and?
My problem isn't with my runs, it's with Exagryph. The conversation just derailed when I mentioned my last story run briefly.
one of my runs ended in me dying in the second tart room
Do you have any aspect on Exagryph?
idc about that run tho and move on?
exygryph sucks for some players and others are gods with it, thats true
If vanilla rail isn't your thing, try other aspects.
The "bomb yourself" one at lvl1, yeah.
(Hint, Eris is actually broken at high level)
I did beat heat1 with it but it took me 50 minutes where my Coronacht runs take under 30
Exagryph in general is insanely good
Nope, contractors don't have it yet.
Something something aspect of Hera cast rush
Rail works super well with boons that scale on attack speed, like Lightning Strike
how far have you progressed the story?
Lightning strike is Zeus attack boon?
But doesn't it only apply to target you're NOT shooting at?
Well, rail is good. If you have troubles with it, maybe post your build in combat channel. People can help
No, it applies to whoever you are shooting at and chains to other targets
some people just dont find rail appealing and thats ok too
Nyx and Hades got into a fight recently. Is that any indication of story progression?
No, it's essentially +100% damage and more for Rail.
Because aoe and toer 2
yes
Interesting, maybe I should take it more often then.
you will soon reach the part after which you can unlock it!
If you are using % attack boons on rails that aren't Hestia you're going to have a bad time
Yeah, that makes sense. I should try something different in my next run then.
That's like... a highrolling exception imo
Yup, hence the to be fair part
I'm aware that you need one specific hammer to make it work
But it's certainly worth a try, same with Charged Skewer Deadly Flourish 4th spear.
Maybe that's why I love Coronacht so much, doesn't matter what I roll if I can get my hands on a half-decent cast
The only spear where I like the special
i honestly dont remember the exact number of runs only that there are two scripted ||flashbacks|| in the house of hades very early on
I got the one ||where Zag shuffles through some papers and finds out Nyx isn't his blood mother||
I assume that's the first of the two?
yes
Guess I've got a ways to go before the next one.
they arent that far apart
Is there any info on damage scaling formula? I can't find it anywhere
On how different bonuses apply
Everything is additive except for crits, which are multiplicative. Maybe backstabs too?
yep
Backstabs are additive as far as I understand
i think the only weird damage stuff happens with dashes from what i've seen in #h1-builds-and-combat once
So everything other than crit is additive, I think I found the formula
Because that was a fair few runs ago.
If I haven't gotten to it now, it's going to be a while before I get there.
or maybe just 2 more runs before you get it
||Though I did just free Orpheous. That might be a good indicator of my progress.||
So if I decide to use the shackle
it's gonna apply the bonus just like an attack boon until I get the actual boon?
You can think of it that way yeah
Also is Guan Yu aspect any good? I figured that an aspect that's build entirely around predicting what your enemy is going to do next isn't very viable, at least on final boss
You get +5 HP for predicting it right and lose 40+ for predicting wrong
Yeah it is. If you can get a hammer called Charged Skewer and put a Deadly Flourish on it, it can 2-3 shot most enemies
I mean, it was easy to spam my way to Hades
spinning on it requires some getting used to. you are better of using the special.
and then I got my back handed to be in first phase
You mean... dodging?
If you release an attack as a punish and Hades does another attack back to back outside of a sequence
you're stuck in an animation
Don't use the third attack in the combo
I mean if you release spin-to-win, since my entire build was around it
you made me realized that there is a combo for 4th spear lol
Hangover and both hammers
Why don't you try some %damge on it?
Hahahaha Im playing it now and was just reminded how long that anim is
Hangover DPS is kinda underwhelming on most weapons ngl
I only made one run, I need to decide if it's worth using because I'm not made of titan blood yet to upgrade anything I want
Even with high rolling I was two-shot on Hades
I see. Do you know how you can test run aspects?
Do not play GY without fully upgrading it
Was my thought exactly
I still don't understand how GY is the first hidden aspect you get
You don't have to fully upgrade any of the others for them to be decent
Ahem... Chaos, Chiron
I think they meant hidden stuff specifically
Yeah
Ah
it teaches you that each weapon trades something for something else tho ||like sword and shield trade damage for speed||
it's the most extreme one, yes but it also fits more into the story ||achilles taught you to fight and he unlocks the first aspect and therefore teaches you how to unlock the new aspects||
people who enjoy high ||heat|| games?
there are speedrunners, casual, difficulty hunters, no-boon players etcetcetc
a fair chunk of the time those do high ||heat|| also speedrun
well thats also because of ||TD|| i guess
i only completed a run in 16 ||heat|| though
so its like almost impossible for me to do high
if you dont want to do high heat runs it's ok
nobody forces you to, you can ofcourse still go for the 32 ||heat||, it will get easier with practice but please dont feel like you are forced to just because it's common to do it?
Sounds like a prickly issue for you 
they are annoying for new players yeag
Hahah yeah the amount of times I've died from traps, ugh
I've been playing for ages and I still step on traps, don't feel bad
Haha yeah i know
you can still get hit yeah\
Highest for me is reaching hydra
Nice
On my 9th run
what weapon your using?
Not yet, haven't been able to pass meg again 🤣🤣
well spear is really good for hydra
Are you guys using keys to unlock weapons or skills from the mirror?
Which i already do.. the blade, spear, shield and bow
ah
then just get mirror until your comfortable with your upgrades
then get the rest of the weapons
Got it thank you!
Soo i just got new talents from nyx so yeah gonna play around with that
Does anyone know if there’s gonna be another run of the hades vinyl? I was gonna get it with some holiday money but I was a bit too slow ;A;
JUST DEFEATED HYDRA! OMG
CONGRATS!!!!!🎉🎉🎉
Thank you!
holy crap mate
i just salvaged the worst run ive had
poseidons sword, literally ZERO cast boons
That sounds terrible
Ouch
RNG giveth and taketh away
I managed to get to the end of my run after the game refused to give me any more death defiances.
Athena was just bein' stringy. >:(
I've set my priorities straight for tonight. It's 12:20am, i have work tomorrow at 7:30am... but Hades is life. So i shall only get 2 hours of sleep.
does anyone know the damage multiplier for charm effect?
can someone with nitro send that :ThanSticker: pls
if u want to search for an animated emote search a:emotename
a:thansticker will get u it
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aphro and zeus is nice
hey boys, nemesis sword boon build please
Artemis. beat me to it
The rest you can take into utility, like deflects/resists and whatnot
hammers are anything that makes you deal more damage with attacks, preferably dash attacks
Zeus bellowing call
@green maple I really enjoyed Aphro/Ares with shield, if you're lucky enough to get the duo for continuous doom procs. shield throw bouncing special is a great way to apply doom on an entire room, then weakness attack on anything close to you/bosses
Athena's call is also amazing for nemesis aspect
You roid up with call and special and just dumpster the boss with your autoattacks
Although Stygius doesn't seem to be particularly amazing on low-roll run
since it all kinda falls apart if your attack boon isn't amazing
Even worse if it's not flat damage or critchance boost

Should I play hades with controller or keyboard + mouse?
Yes
Controller is generally recommended, but mouse and keyboard work fine too if that's your preference
I mean, I did well with a keyboard.
Didn't know you could use a controller
Have no idea how, haha
I play on linux I could not get the game to accept my controller in less than 3 minutes so I play with keyboard
i’ve only ever played kbm and really like it! all up to personal preference if you ask me.
I beat the real true final boss today and it was an amazing fight; I had like the best build ever and beat him on my first try experiencing him
without the amazing build I had I would have stood no chance tho
congrats! a clear is a clear
had like 4000 gold by the end of the run saved up and was doing like 250 dmg with the sword's basic attack because of the gold and healing 2 HP with every hit and inflicting chill at the same time, plus +1 HP regen per second. Best build literally ever.
Oof someone made stubborn roots work
Is it just me, or is Extreme Measures third boss easier than normal third boss?
Extremely RNG-heavy boss as is, can be a total pushover or down you half-health with attack you can't see coming since it does damage on frame 1 purely depending on what god it gets
Is third boss considered spoilers?
Just don't go into specifics
Does long knuckle affect dash strike
@hexed shore Is it +10% attack and longer hitbox on Malphon?
Also em shield guy is easier but his partner gets significantly harder
And yes that's the one randaru
It doesn't affect hitbox, I dunno about damage
You can dash around at a longer distance
but I dunno why would you since it's a backstab-heavy weapon
I mean it's pretty good you can keep running circles around your enemies with long knuckle
You can, but again, I don't see a point since it's an iframe/backstab heavy weapon
Welp I guess I can live without dash strike
I mean I don't see why backstabbing would be hard with long knuckle?
It wouldn't, if you play exactly as you would've played without it : ^)
Oh sweet found poseidon dash
Also idk I think long knuckle is my fav upgrade
Followed by rush kick on demeter and explosive upper/kinetic launcher
I mean, many combos can be good
Ooh now I wanna try kinetic launcher and long knuckle with demeter
Although for your stock gameplan with Malphon, nothing beats concentrated knuckle + rolling knuckle hammer combo
Never been a big fan of concentrated knuckle
You do so much damage that it doesn't even matter if your iframes are on point or not
Bosses just cease existing when you look in their general direction
Got offered rush kick, kinetic launcher and explosive upper
I have long knuckle Zeus attack, aphro special and poseidon dash on demeter
Suggestions?
explosive upper especially because you're using demeter aspect
it's not as good as explosive upper imo
yeah, it's one of the best hammers for demeter fists
Sometimes you just shoryuken everything
Actually, fists special already hits twice
Only if you dash special it
I'm fairly certain normal special hits twice and dash upper hits once
Fo2 is really fun but I keep dying to dad, rip
The faster speed has totally thrown off my ability to dodge his spin
The cool thing about this game is that you kinda have to look hard to find anything that's an actual flaw in the game
There are some annoying mechanics sure (traps being one of them), but it's not like they're badly designed features
For the year and a half I've been playing the game the only concrete flaw I've been able to find is that visual noise can get too intense at times.
And though the final boss is really hard and a bit frustrating for your earlier runs, you can learn the matchup and get better upgrades to face them eventually
Yeah visual noise can sometimes be a bit intense
Facts ; failing || Erebus stages on purpose just to complete Red Onion's lore T_T ||
I had to voice it. It's a pain.
What do you all think is the worst duo boon? I know alot of people hate Lightning Rod cause of Haelian, but I honestly think Freezing Vortex takes the cake. It's actively worse than the base blade rift.
I've made most of them work
Lightning rod + zeus legendary can dish some damage
And ravenous will
Then again
Anything with zeus legend is pretty rad
Hm... I wouldn't say it's the "worst", but at least (in my opinion of course) a too much specific one, is the Aphrodite / Athena duo. Requires you to have some kind of specific build, and is not really easy to use against boss, who move a lot.
But, well, if you use it, for example with shield hidden aspect it's murderous. It's just, in my sense, veeeery specific.
Oh that
Damage bonuses*
Well I mean thats the thing right, all the other "bad" duo boons have some kind of niche use. Except freezing vortex. It's just worse than the base blade rift AND you can't get hunting blades
The thing about aphro/athena duo boon is that you also need blinding flash to work
Otherwise
It's pretty much finnicky
Freezing vortex is.., k'ay I read it. I guess... It needs some kind of strong build, like Ares' legendary, and other Vortex's Buffs
Yup. That's it. x)
I've got Freezing Vortex to work once.
I had four Stygian Soul Bloodstones and Arctic Blast.
also if you're building blade rift, freezing vortex will actually mess you up, so you can't really take it just to sell later like Amir says your supposed to do with lightning rod :p
Hey, I know. I'll try to make a build that makes freezing vortex working! Sounds like fun
GL
Thanks :D
bonus points if the build wouldn't just be flat out better with Hunting Blades instead
Dunno if I'll success, but well, I'll give it a try
I'd kinda like to see them replace it with some sort of Cold/Doom interaction duo
I wonder if I'm gonna have peeps flaming me but imo curse of longing and exclusive access are the "worst" duo boon. With curse of longing, more often than not you're gonna use a fast weapon for dire misfortune and your uptime for doom is high enough already. Because of hitting with fast weapon, curse of longing would probably proc one time after the original doom
Exclussive access isn't bad
By any means
Curse of longing is... Aphrodite / Ares duo, right?
But if you get it at styx
Exclusive Access is better the earlier you get it.
Chamber 6 it's the best boon in the game.
Yes
'Kay thank you :)
I guess you can also argue the doom damage from curse of longing is higher cause the proc intervals compared to just doom
I mean this isn't really a getting flamed type of community.
Yea I guess.
Ahh yeah, you're quite right about it, it's not the best if you use it with a fast weapon. But it depends where is your doom buff ;
For example, take the Fists. If doom is on the Attack, and Weaken on special, I agree it's not very effective.
Buuut if you put Weaken on attack and Doom on special, you just keep damaging, put a special, damage, put a special... Meanwhile the ennemies keep getting continuous damages
I think curse of longing is kinda meh but it can have niche use if you aren't doing a core doom build and its more of a side thing. Still not ideal, cause I'd rather duos be something a build would center around.
I think I obliterated the final boss with a similar build some time ago
Not every Olympian needs every boon to be a banger, though.
like I took it on an attack based achilles build once with Heartbreak strike and Curse of Pain.
And Ares already has Vicious Cycle, Merciful End, Hunting Blades, and Curse of Nausea.
Since I was only procing curse of pain occasionally, it was some good extra damage
I mean, I'd like it if every duo was a zinger
It would be nice.
Honestly, I'm still hurt more than anything that my two favorite Olympians in regards to gameplay, Artemis and Zeus, have a Duo that I don't use at all.
So I was thinking to myself. You know what this game needs? Monkeys. The issue of course is the lack of monkeys in Greek mythology but considering ||hidden aspects are based off of non greek legends||, what if zag got a staff and it's ||hidden aspect|| was son wun's stretching staff
Got a duo boon that doesn't do anything wasting space in your inventory? Take it on down to your local Pool of Purging an SELL IT FOR CAAAASHHHH!!!!
Oh my. Instead of Lance's hidden aspect.
Yes. Oh yes.
I kind of succeeded a run with it
(maxed) but it's sooi painful. And fun at the same time. Like. Confusing.
Hidden spear cool which is why we just need whole new weapon
tho a staff will probs play like spear
But that's just my humble opinion, I donnt like the Lance, I'm terrible with it, except Hades aspect TwT
Honestly I hope they do a new DLC that includes some new hidden aspects. I really want them to add the Transistor as an aspect for Stygius
You know I wanted to say "did ancient greek use staff as a weapon?" Then it dawned on me we have gun as an option
Or honestly would love any DLC expansion for this game really
its so good and I need more
Hestia ||and Satan||: "So anyway, I started blasting."
Greeks had guns. Didn't you read the myth of plagus the wise
Dang it
"It's not a story the Athenians would tell you."
Can I learn to use this weapon?
i cleared the game first time after 4 hour abusing rail
then anther time using
bow
but no matter how much i try, i cant win using any melee
halp
Honestly I tend to have the opposite issue. When I was still working my way through my first clears I had like 6 sword clears before I had one with the rail or the bow
Not from the base game
-.-
my rail run was by using the x3 special + hangover dmg
the bow run by chaorn bow or wtf it called xD
as for melee, i tried every thing
i just get hit for 50s in last fight
i even trying abusing s tier builds like giga cutter spam
There it is!!!
and nop, cant do
I feel like long range weapons feel obvious to get easy wins yet i also couldn't get good runs with bow or gun till I got better
Dashing more
My first rail clear was just Festive Fog + two duo boons
wait that's illegal
Kind of a get in and get out approach

i was literally nuking hades ass
You just have to know when to get out of melee range
Ya, doesn't exactly count, IK
u will eventually get hit
I'm shocked ass didnt make the bot call out bad language
Just play more and you will learn his moveset
and getting hit in last fight is like 50
eaaaaa there evol bad language bot here?
hell naw ;-;
Not evil just not the f word it seems
Get a defensive keepsake after beating elysium
^
My play style is up close and personal, 2 meters away, cause social distancing with a spear
since my noob ass still get hit alot
Spear got balance of far away and close up
Tooth if you have less than 3 DD, and acorn otherwise is the meta right now, right?
I thought the one that gives I-frames after getting hit is really good?
Basically I took dio keepsake trying for a hangover rail, didn't get it, but got festive fog, took zeus, didn't get his attack, then took demeter, finally got an attack but at that point I was most of the way through elysium with a super juiced festive fog, soo....
when i go bow runs, i take the charm that give 2% dmg per each unhit encounter u finish
It makes styx easy but hades typically just chunks you for 50
it usuallly racks up for 30 by the end of run
Acorn will likely give you more effective HP than Skelly.
So... yes?
You should consider using the keepsakes of the gods to target a certain build
i only have ares for now
I take Acorn even if I have less than three DD
its just better
Get more nectar then
Hunter Dash Deadly Strike with Twin/Triple Shot are what you should look for with vanilla bow.
dude i just cant stop feeling ranged weapons just too strong
And you can absolutely get a good build with ares
it gives safe distance
hangover apply using rail + support fire
or zeus
and bow with crit and powerful shot
i was critting for 700
never seen such numbers with any melee
me sad
Fist are the thing that took me a min to like but after playing it more it's one of my favorites i say like i don't like all the weapons except gun
mean while my sword build which total focus on special hits for 150 kekw
I would try getting poseidon to do a cast build, it forces you get close to use the special but you can still cast from a distance
Or maybe arthur because it is pretty safe with the bonus hp and the aura
there certain cast which throw a jewel on ground which laser the enemy
i enjoyed spamming this on hades
u zap me i zap u
fair n square
You mean the demeter one?
oh yes
ye demeter
demeter cast is great
stronok dmg
You should get the duo boon with artemis for that
artemis and demeter?
nah I'm leaning on aphro and demeter
lemme look that fast
aphro is waifu tho
Aphro pretty
ok so someone give me easiest build to clear using melee weapon
Depends on the type of melee, of course. This contains spoilers about weapons: ||https://imgur.com/a/u9qzRch||
wtf weapon on this
hidden sword
||https://imgur.com/a/atXIPVq|| Here is another one that I post less often.
I like how you can still see enemy has some health in the pic lol
No it is the third attack in the combo I think
And artemis crits are good damage
what boons?
Crit damage best damage
Bonus clip: ||https://clips.twitch.tv/HedonisticGiftedPanGrammarKing||
Artemis attack and I assume the duo with aphro for extra crit damage?
Plus more artemis scaling
Yup, clean kill, Heart Rend, chaos, etc. can do absurd stuff on sword.
Now this is podracing
It's called ||Excalibur||. You can check out how to unlock it in a pinned message in #h1-story-discussion, unless you want to find it on your own.
Sword hidden aspect is <3
how do u get the hidden aspect
i only have 3
i was using the nemsis aspect
with sword special spam
Do you have the secret spear aspect yet?
nop
i dont have any aspect yet
i have like 6 hours played xD
ps : work sucks
xD
God mood
You need to unlock all weapons first. Then you can unlock aspects.
i did unlock them all
After that you can unlock hidden aspects.
Then maybe look at this? #h1-story-discussion message
Good investment. Don't worry :D
There's also || Some conditions, like talking to a specific character, with a specific weapon, and getting the right dialogue line ||
Hope you have some time to play for Christmas break.
Dooon't worry
i hope that too :D
You'll get everything eventually~
hey guys i got hades yesterday and i was wondering what boons i should be choosing on a run
Best game of 2020 for sure
hollow knight, dead cells, skul the hero slayer, sundered
yet hades so fun
the combat is different
than ur typical rougelike
was robbed at game awards ngl
are they planning for dlcs?
If you are just starting out I I would not look for advice yet, just keep playing until you somewhat know what you are doing
Not yet
one thing makes me keep playing dead cells is the continious development
All boons have some use.
too many new stuff get released
True no way last of us should have gotten game of the year over hades
would be great if we got updates
it's not known if their will be dlc's for Hades
new weapon gife
i was asking because i got to the final boss on elysium on my 10th ever run and i havent been able to reach that for a while lol
kept dying
No plans announced yet. To be fair the game was out for less than 2 months.
how in the world
Yeah and I'm certain they will keep putting into this game since it's such an active community
it's been over 3 months now Fox
Just keep playing, you will get better
ok
i see scythe in a any game = insta buy
Only 3 months and yet is already so great? Enter the gungeon wishes
September 17th to now...
You are right. I am good with calculating time.
Qik mafs over here 
Yep, we should let them get some good rest for now~
Supergiant never made dlc before iirc
yep, they deserve a long break 
Funny fact, I was never a roguelike/lite player. Was just attracted to the game because I saw Orpheus and Nyx artwork during a stream, and the visual of the House
Yeah, they rarely do. Bastion can be argued to have a free DLC, but not really imo.
game got too much potential
they did a small free dlc for bastion and that's it
how is the modding tho?
can u mod the game?
yes, all the game files are open
Yup, QoL mods already exist in decent numbers. Contents mods, we will have to see.
niicu
Contents mods take a lot longer to develop obviously.
To be fair, has any supergiant game been as big as hades? asking for real since I hadn't heard of the other ones till this game
Just the fact they allow to mod the game is a S+
there's a modding discord, you can find the invite link pinned in the #self-promotion channel
they've never not allowed mods
Nope. Hades is definitely their biggest success yet. Not to say that the other games aren't successful.
they've just never officially supported them either
But Hades is a grand slam.
So the hope for true dlc is there I imagine
This is also the first time they do Early Access.
They managed to attract both usual roguelike players AND new players
Which is quite an achievement
I won't bet on a DLC, but this is a precedent for the studio. You can hope for one.
And using Greek mythology, attracted people who likes it
God can pray
Honestly though, I think they will focus more on bringing the game to other platforms first before developing new contents. This is pure speculation on my part.
Actually, thinking on it. My guess is it would be a slay the spire like thing instead of dlc
Like just updates
If they can bring Playstation players it would bounce the sells even more, I think.
I love the way SGG does business lol. Super clandestine until the day of. They don't announce things until they are sure they can do it.
Hades on ps5, you can feel the blood of Styx
This is especially apparent in light of a recent game by CDPR
I never heard of them before, and now, the more I learn about them, the more I like them
I remember the launch on September 17th. No fanfare, nothing. Just a silent drop.
Not even a trailer with the date.
Did the trailer come after it was out?
And somehow it topped the chart on Switch xD
Oh yeah wait I remember the game just popping up one day out of nowhere
No, the trailer came before, but all it says is soon.
No one knew how soon until the day of.
Like
"Hello there"?
it was announced on a Nintendo mini direct
Like a streamer I knew played it, another mentioned it and then I the mini direct happened and I was sold
Or maybe reverse order
Mini then 2 streamers
should I get switch version? I kinda want to, I don't have a lot of games on switch ;-;
If I can play Hades on my Android phone I would :D
Same, I saw a streamer play it when it was in early acess and she really loved it and I always liked supergiant games, so got it
I'm playing on switch and yes, it's very cool
I saw NL played it.
Same here and it runs perfectly^
thing is I don't have anything to do, I've reached the nightmare that is no more dialogue. Then again, hell mode
hmmmmmmmmm
I have it on switch and PC and they are identical
It's also... Huh "convenient", I think that's the word, because you can bring it everywhere
I recommend switch version for on the go
Well || You can still try to proc some Than or Meg encounter... 😏||
I would get a Switch Lite if the games aren't so expensive and the screen isn't so small.
you mad lad I'mma do that
5.9 inches is smaller than my phone T.T
However, switch version, I feel like the battery is running quickly, or maybe it's just me playing too much.
perhaps
What does hell mode actually do? I know it forces you to run with some amount of heat from the start but is there anything else?
One exclusive heat option called Personal Liability.
Can you mix God mode and hell mode?
wait
Nope
I thought we dont get i-frame to begin with? Or is that just lazer attacks?
Its for burst damage
No, try getting hit by something like hades spin with boiling blood and you get a shielf
Sometimes you get shield when you are corner and staggered by multiple attacks at once.
So in normal game if you get hit by like 4 things at the same time onoy one will do damage
Oh neat
It's quite underwhelming tbh
I probs had it happened but didn't notice
Most of the time I don't feel like it does anything.
Yeah the heat option sounds like it does nothing
Wish it worked against lasers since ||dad||
Pretty sure you can easily get it there if you get hit enough
So yeah
I've been trapped in place by him like 3 times
Maybe I just didn't have enough hp for it to pop the shield?
I guess it helps when you are swarmed by numbskulls
I would assume it mostly triggers in places like witches cravenn and hydra where there can be tons of projectiles
Well, the fact that some people aren't aware about the shield, or having to come up with instances where the shield works, is just proof of how underwhelming it is.
Personal Liability is kinda free, ngl.
Btw did you know that numbskulls with bonus movement from benefits package are hard to dodge if you have less movement speed because of chaos?
Just use dash as only movement 5head
Yeah but if you are out of dashes you are going to take damage
No I don't mean to dodge, just only dash even if you run out
Wow that's really smart

Just don't get hit guys
Big brains tonight. Real 5 head hour
hi i have a question regarding a keepsake, should i ask it here or in #h1-builds-and-combat
Might be you, I always pick it
Either. If it is short, go ahead.
It takes way too long to deal damage and most of the time you get through all the Armor with meg as well
Counterpoint about than, he's hot so it's okay

so about the keepsake "harpy's feather duster", is there an indication of which vases drop the health item, like when you select the contract to have urns contain gold?
or am i gonna start mowing down every vase i see
I always use it on boss, and specifically when the boss use a pattern they're not moving, then Than deals his 3500 damages freely :D
^ this
Same reason I pick aphro even tho I don't like weaken
Duo boons?
It can do this: MASSIVE spoiler about final boss ||https://youtu.be/_Jnd0qCFi8M?t=1957||
ah...
Than's attack + Weaken effect that increase damages tho-
so is there one or nah
Huuu, I don't think so? I used it weeery few times, so I can't say for sure, sorry
I'm just not a fan of weaken even if it is techinally good. Since I'm a damage dealer not get hit less guy
cause my playstyle in games is generally "make everything viable"
so im trying to level up all the keepsakes i can
that being said, im looking at the duster and just wanna know for sure how this works
Was that a crit? I did not think pp worked on companions
guess ill find out
It was a bug :D
thanks for responding, alunyan
It cleans the dust-
flees
Mods we have a terrorist here ban him pls
also regarding this
how i pick which boon to take first is very simple:
"which god have i not seen pissed off yet/which god do i wanna see pissed off.."
Speaking of companions on ||dad|| they for some reason never work for me. Do I need to have it be a higher level?
boops dionysus over artemis
There is a special event for that to happen.
Ah neat
Makes sense because Meg, Than, Dusa, and Achilles ||all work for Hades technically so they can't fight him.||
But you can use Skelly and Sisyphus because they don't care.
Yeah it made sense and I thought they werent supposed to work till i saw vids of peeps using them
Yeah, it happens fairly late in the game, too. Keep with the game and im sure you will see it.
Pog
I need to get off my phone so I can sleep and not get on my laptop and play more but it's such a good game
Haha, good night! :D
Orrrrrr. I could pull an all nighter
Hmmmm decision, decisions. Just like in the game hades
@nocturne ginkgo for the duster you just have to mow down every pot
Maybe it's a sign
There is no indication
damn @versed verge
my same problem yestrday
skip work and pull all nighter?
or sleep to go work early like the wagecuck i am
T.T
obviously i did the latter cuz there pills pfff
however week end now and i have 3 days to grind uwu
I don't do caffeine. Just raw power so all nighters are tough ngl. I'm not the same young lad I used to be
Getting good sleep means you'll do good runs 'cause you have some rest :D
Zag doesn't rest
i do best runs during all nighters
when the engine is rumbling, it gives best speed
bruvvv
u amateur
Nah just old
Mood
Yeah being 20 is hard
:<
Damn must be hard being closer to 30 than 20
It can be when you have a messed up sleep schedule
being 20 is harder
now yall call me gramps
Oof, both of you are closer to 50 than to when you were born
...
I didn't say it was harder, just hard
I DIDNT EVEN NOTICE THIS

Ah yes, hades discussion
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