h1-discussion

[tired sundial]

Frying pan aspect

[lone sinew]

POG we need that

[runic agate]

[distant night]

sometimes you just drop onions after killing an enemy with attack

[runic agate]

yas

stygias get over here i need to cook with you! says the chef

[upbeat sigil]

Give us aspect of charon

||And it's a big oar||

[distant night]

honestly a miscellaneous weapon for dusa feather-thing, charon BONK, than scythe and meg whip etc would be so sexy

OMG BONK

[lone sinew]

ASPECT OF FORK ON SPE- right uncle Posseidon... I want copy you again...

[tired sundial]

Joke aspects do kinda sound cool

[upbeat sigil]

GIVE US BONK ASPECT YOU COWARDS

Lol

[distant night]

BONK ASPECTS

[shadow coral]

Still disappointed that the Rail's hidden Aspect wasn't Doomslayer.

[runic agate]

dude we need more aspects of people like dusa and than and meg and maybe joke ones like chef

[distant night]

i am so sad that there are only 4 aspects

[runic agate]

they wouldnt be able to get the rights

[runic agate]

same

[distant night]

cause we have 6 ||companions|| and 6 weapons

[tired sundial]

Go to vase breaking jail
Bonk

[distant night]

imagine having 6 aspects

666 brothers

[shadow coral]

Eh, iD has always been pretty good about fan crossovers.

[lone sinew]

wow what? you guys are getting out of hand other roguelites have one weapon and maybe some character to lighten up things be grateful

[distant night]

imagine getting a secret for bonking charon ith his own aspect 😂

[carmine ravine]

doomslayer isnt a mythical figure

[upbeat sigil]

Whenever you run into aphrodite with charon's aspect
"Go to horny jail" BONK

[distant night]

BONK

[tired sundial]

Bomk

[distant night]

i want this sound in the secret bossfight now ;-;

[shadow coral]

I'm gonna Press X to Doubt on that one.

[upbeat sigil]

Heck yeah

[carmine ravine]

see this is what a gamer looks like

[shadow coral]

Yes?

[runic agate]

what if there were one off weapons?

like if you get max friendship with meg or than you get their weapons?

[shadow coral]

I demand ||Daddy||-slappins with Dusa's feather duster as a weapon

[upbeat sigil]

That doesn't seem like it would make sense

[runic agate]

i mean

[upbeat sigil]

To develop a full weapon just to use once

[runic agate]

doesnt mean i cant want it

[upbeat sigil]

Fair

[distant night]

i want to whip the megagorgon

[runic agate]

[distant night]

i hate it so much

it destroyed so many of my sub 30 fresh file runs

[lone sinew]

or maybe an APOLLO ASPECT BRO THERE IS HERA AND HESTIA. H E S T I A AND THERE IS NO APOLLO

[runic agate]

i want other peoples weapons but logicly they couldnt have aspects cuz they arent infernal arms

[distant night]

cause what is apollo known for?

weilding a sword? a shield? bro no

[tired sundial]

Flexing

[distant night]

he has a staff

[lone sinew]

bow + something with music or fire

he has a bow...

[distant night]

bow is artemis

cause they siblings

[lone sinew]

he has too...

[distant night]

matching sibling weapons

[runic agate]

think about it

[lone sinew]

also Artemis dosent have an aspect she just offers boons he has to do one of these things

[distant night]

thats because she is still using her infernal arm?

[runic agate]

she doesnt have an infernal arm

[distant night]

we only get those arms that were locked up

[distant night]

she has her bow

[runic agate]

its stated that she hasnt used chorinaghut

[distant night]

yes

[runic agate]

yes i cant spell

[lone sinew]

So since she's the master of the bow Apollo could just have an aspect!

[distant night]

aspect of hera is also not coronacht per se

[upbeat sigil]

It is, that's the whole point

[distant night]

apollo is also still using his bow

[upbeat sigil]

It's the same weapon, and it takes different forms depending on who's using it

[runic agate]

they have to have had the bow once for them to have had an aspect

[upbeat sigil]

So all of the different aspects of the weapons are for specific people who have used them in the past or future

[distant night]

i forgot the future part

[lone sinew]

it's as ... E ... said

[upbeat sigil]

So the aspect of Hera is the form coronocht took when Hera was using it

[distant night]

well that explains even more why we dont have an apollo aspect

[upbeat sigil]

I believe that all of the non-secret aspects are past, and all of the hidden aspects are future

[runic agate]

i still want a NON INFERNAL ARMS WEAPON like meg's whip or than's scythe

[distant night]

he never wielded the coronaucht

[upbeat sigil]

Yeah

[lone sinew]

pff I need apollo to do something

[runic agate]

this is false

[distant night]

apollo is giving he world medicine he is fine 😂

[upbeat sigil]

In still stuck on bonk mode sword or spear though

[frigid abyss]

when the shade goes retweet if you agree

[upbeat sigil]

Oh, right ||gilgamesh|| would be past wouldn't he?

[runic agate]

ngl i really freaking want this

[runic agate]

ye

[lone sinew]

you are the first person I've seen in discord to reply to one of his own messages

[distant night]

E is a legend

[upbeat sigil]

Same

[distant night]

a loud one but legend

[lone sinew]

it's another's universe's power

[distant night]

yes

we all could do it but only E may

https://tenor.com/view/ea-sports-e-ea-meme-gif-14922519

[upbeat sigil]

You know, I can't not picture you as a cat in my head every time I run into you on the server?

That's not relevant to anything, but I figured I'd share

[distant night]

meow!

thank you!

[lone sinew]

It clearly says there.

E

[runic agate]

Me?

[lone sinew]

it's all about E

[upbeat sigil]

It's def the profile picture

[distant night]

hehe

[upbeat sigil]

That's just how I picture you

[lone sinew]

he's controlling everything and everyone

[distant night]

at least you didnt think it was a dog?

[lone sinew]

We are in his game

[distant night]

i am a cat in somebody's inner imagination i'm happy

now i can die peacefully to HS lava

[runic agate]

Ur a cat in my imagination

[novel wasp]

E

[lone sinew]

this is something only E can decide

[runic agate]

t what?

[lone sinew]

he controls you. You can't decide your future

[novel wasp]

Im EA SPORTS

Still dissapoints

[distant night]

i am a Cat²

this day has made me cry from happiness twice

[upbeat sigil]

Awww

I'm glad you're having a good day!

[lone sinew]

E you are god playing around with us in my imagination. but maybe it's just an imagination

[upbeat sigil]

What else made you so happy¿

[pure karma]

Where would be able to submit an issue with the game on switch for me? I was fighting hades on heat 16 and the game simply froze

[upbeat sigil]

Tech support or tech fixes

[distant night]

getting called a cat twice

😂

[upbeat sigil]

Haha

[pure karma]

Ok thank you

[distant night]

i have low standards for serotonin

[upbeat sigil]

Well I'm glad it made you haopy

[upbeat sigil]

Np

[upbeat sigil]

Honestly that's a really good thing

I feel like it's kind of like laughing easily

[distant night]

i only have it because too much depresso and not enough regular serotonin :))))))

[upbeat sigil]

I always felt like laughing easily is a really positive trait, because if you're the one who laughs easily, you're laughing more and happy more

[lone sinew]

so.. that makes you actually a dinosaur?

[distant night]

rawr

[upbeat sigil]

And you also make everyone around you feel way funnier and better at themselves if you laugh a lot

[upbeat sigil]

Mental health difficulty buddies

[distant night]

yeah, it gets you uni-friends fast

[upbeat sigil]

I feel like everyone needs at least one friend to laugh at your bad jokes

It's really a self-esteem booster

[distant night]

thats true

[runic agate]

wat

[distant night]

but finding somebody to really get most your jokes

thats the best feeling ever, even if its rare

[upbeat sigil]

Yeah

[runic agate]

do yall think of me as a god now because of my name?

[lone sinew]

so that makes me actually a guy with depression sitting alone in a swing?

[upbeat sigil]

When you have someone who just like, has a very similar sense of humor

[distant night]

seeing ||hypnos|| feel this way about ||zag|| made me so happy

yeah not even just humor

just having similar likes interests and open-minded-ness level

[upbeat sigil]

Oh yeah

Friends are good

[lone sinew]

it's not just the name

you are a higher being

[runic agate]

wdym?

[vestal kestrel]

first ||escape|| without a ||call||. 3/3 using ||zeus shield|| though...

[lone sinew]

congrats^^

[vestal kestrel]

im addicted to it

[distant night]

gg!

[upbeat sigil]

Nice!

[runic agate]

nice!

[vestal kestrel]

sorry, should've been in victory boasting

[distant night]

it's ok here too

we love some victory enthusiasm here

[vestal kestrel]

i love the ||hades ||fight

everything about it

[distant night]

hehe

[frigid abyss]

"wow i really can't get the hang of achilles spear"
game: this is the perfect time to make him go through all of the styx tunnels for once

[runic agate]

lmfao

[frigid abyss]

i have 55 hp let's goooo

[runic agate]

riiiip

[upbeat sigil]

Oof

[distant night]

5 sacks are the worst

[upbeat sigil]

I don't like achilles spear

[lone sinew]

what if our images are not actually images but a display of a desire

[upbeat sigil]

I also feel like after you throw, attack should be dash and special again should be retrieve

[distant night]

if you use spear alot it feels very nice

since you're used to using special with rightclick, leftclick

then adding rightclick² with the zoom really means your mouse will be dead in a month

[frigid abyss]

im pretty bad at spear in general

[lone sinew]

spear is a overall a weapon not liked by many that are somehoew new to the game

but as you get to play it you'll like it more

[distant night]

funnily enought when hades came out to v1.0 it was the exact opposite

[lone sinew]

mouse lol? guys don't listen to this cat plug in controllers

[upbeat sigil]

I have been using the same mouse since middle school

I'm a sophomore in college now

God I love my mouse

[distant night]

spear kinda got nerfed after october

so it really feels bad for newcomers

[upbeat sigil]

I've also probably changed its batteries like six times total

[distant night]

what kind of magical mouse are you using

[upbeat sigil]

Logitech g602

It's great

[distant night]

M220

[upbeat sigil]

I haven't even been super careful with it, when I was younger I used to just throw it in my backpack

It's just a good ass mouse

[distant night]

did the same with my last logitech m220

in the end its sensitivity was just beyond broken

[lone sinew]

throw it in your backpack?

why?

[distant night]

to take it with you

[lone sinew]

to where?

[pliant sparrow]

school?

[distant night]

school, uni, library

maybe even work if you need your laptop for it

[lone sinew]

ah I see what countries are you from lol...

Poor Greece

[distant night]

:c

[lone sinew]

Yeah where were we oh yes Hades rly good game guys play it!

[upbeat sigil]

One time I took apart the mouse, and I lost the little slider on the bottom to turn it on and off

[iron badge]

hey hey heyyyy people, guess whaaat

https://twitter.com/IGN/status/1341096366848798721

IGN (@IGN)

IGN's official Game of the Year winner for 2020 is... HADES! 🎊🎉🎊

Congratulations to @SupergiantGames for taking roguelikes to new heights (and depths) with this addictive Greek Triumph. https://t.co/LLB9bUPnPJ

Twitter · Dec 21, 2020, 7:01 PM

[distant night]

hades is awesome

[upbeat sigil]

So everything still works perfectly, but if I want to turn it off or on manually I need to use a pen or something

Lol

[lone sinew]

yeah we saw it

[distant night]

HECK YEAH IGN

[iron badge]

[upbeat sigil]

Oh nice!

Someone pin that!

[lone sinew]

IGN did it

[graceful kayak]

Hell yea!!

[distant night]

only the true gamer newsletters get it lmaoooo

[graceful kayak]

[distant night]

wiggly

[upbeat sigil]

I - t's
G - aming
N - ight

[distant night]

i gotta say, the ign award colors really remind me of than

[hexed shore]

Huh did something get deleted

[distant night]

yeah Cin was here

[cunning kettle]

I think it did.

[opaque nexus]

I was showing how bad the comments were but it had naughty word

basically people saying cyberpunk is better and "hades shouldn't have won because not a lot of people bought it"

[hexed shore]

Oh lol bound to happen when a AAA doesn't win

[manic bobcat]

Cyberpunk is better xD lmao

it's not even done with beta yet

[hexed shore]

I mean cp77 is pretty good

[cunning kettle]

So fun fact: I bought Animal Crossing and Hades at the same time. Been playing exclusively Hades. That's not a knock on Animal Crossing (I do plan on playing it), it's just a testament to how fun Hades is

[hexed shore]

It just got overhyped so it's facing the backlash from angry fans now but the game is actually good

[opaque nexus]

still refuse to buy iy

[hexed shore]

I mean sure it's your money, you're free to do as you will with it

[carmine ravine]

i mean its a good game, but its not great

[hexed shore]

Sure

[brisk trail]

Of course ||Hades has a second phase|| I almost beat it too. I got baited hard

[hexed shore]

I just don't agree with pooping on it to make hades look good

Hades is a pretty good game itself and I've been rooting for it to win goty for a while now

Doesn't need other games to be bad for that to happen though

[manic bobcat]

My comment was mostly to point out that the game wasn't exactly done when it got released, hence the "beta." I think it will eventually be good, like the Witcher 3 was.

[hexed shore]

It's actually in a much better state now, the recent patches fixed a whole bunch of stuff and the game runs much smoother now atleast on pc

[wide solar]

I wanna play hades but I got my first tattoo today (on my 18th birthday btw) and it hurts much af afterwards so I can’t play hades now :((

[hexed shore]

Oof that sounds rough

Max level demeter hits 6 times right?

[wide solar]

Ye it is. Got it on my chest so like if I move my left arm it hurts a bit so I need to be still with it as much as I can

[hexed shore]

I could swear someone said 7 times but I went and saw it in game and couldn't make sense of how it would go to 7 if it's only adding +1 every level

Just play hades with one hand duh

Hidden spear run where you use only sweeps so you don't have to aim

[wide solar]

I am very bad with the spear lmao it’s like my least favorite weapon I think besides the gun

[hexed shore]

Hey I can relate, except for the gun part

My game keeps putting dark thrist on bow every alternate run so I haven't played other weapons in a while though

[ripe ruin]

does the Thesesu/Asterius Sheild bash attack result in a wave like the skull explosions later?

150+ runs and I just had it happen for the first time ever twice in a row

[manic bobcat]

yup

they have that move yes

[ripe ruin]

ok I'm so confused, I've never seen it before my current battle. Literally over 150 runs

[wide solar]

I have tried escaping about 20 times, first 10 I got to Asphodel and then I was like “damn I’m here and the hydra is kinda easy too” and then I get to Elysium and I get effed every time at the bosses

[distant night]

the wave is called "delta strike" whatever, the other where asterius throws him tho is something different

[ripe ruin]

yeah, I've seen the one where he throws him plenty of times. It just blows my mind I've never seen this attack before now

i dont even know how its possible that they never pulled off that attack on me

RNG plz

[distant night]

(dont stunn them too much)

[ripe ruin]

just so bizzare. I'm fighting them the exact same way I normally do almost every time. Maybe I've just never had 10 stacks of chill on asterius ever

[hexed shore]

Wot they have combo moves?

Does this happen if I take both of them of second phase together?

[distant night]

nope it can happen wheneer theseus wants to

he then yells for asterius and he comes rushing

[hexed shore]

Oh he shouts bull rush?

[distant night]

it is more likely to happen when they are close to each other tho

yes he does

same with delta- whatever

[hexed shore]

Okay I've heard him shout but never actually paid attention to what they're doing

[distant night]

theseus is loud 😂

[hexed shore]

Also you were right Em3 theseus is a joke

[ripe ruin]

*obnoxious

[hexed shore]

Well he was a joke all along but now he's weak too

[ripe ruin]

Em3 theseus is so fun when you have the athena deflect dash

just follow him and deflect the bombs while asterius follows you getting bombarded

[hexed shore]

I had Athena deflect dash and Athena attack with a shield that had the 180° dash strike and had double hit on dash strike hammer

It was fun

Funniest part about theseus is when he does the call and you just stand next to him and do your call to delete him

[ripe ruin]

i wish the exchange had an equivalent darkness exchange always available

i want the "Unseen One" but 325k+....

[hexed shore]

I just want dark thirst on gun or fists for a change

[ripe ruin]

I had it on bow 9/10 times earlier on

[hexed shore]

That is exactly what's happening to me

It's always one bow, one other weapon, back to bow

[ripe ruin]

if I started over, I wouldnt unlock any of the other weapons tho

[hexed shore]

Why would you start over

[ripe ruin]

just to keep it on the sword and just spam run with thirst

[hexed shore]

I can't imagine having to grind keys and gems again

Ugh it was so annoying

Locked weapons get thirst

[ripe ruin]

i also started with hellmode on, so no matter what, no 0 heat runs ever

oh they do? damn

[distant night]

theseus ||em3|| is a joke, asterius is just somebody screaming the beyblade ad song loudly into the night

[ripe ruin]

"LET IT RIPPPP"

[humble patrol]

Asterius bayblade is annoying

One hit and you’re probably dead depending on ur HP

[hexed shore]

I can't imagine fighting that with fists

[ripe ruin]

the beyblade isnt too bad for me, its the AOE on his jump/smash

im so used to the standard fight

I forget not to close in too soon

[hexed shore]

The aoe took some getting used to

I always ran straight to him when I saw him jump

[ripe ruin]

with fists, I just run the same ole dodge build lol

never worry about anything

[hexed shore]

Dodge build is good but it's lowkey boring

[ripe ruin]

oh absolutely it is, but its so fast

[hexed shore]

I just wanna talos and demeter all day

[ripe ruin]

at least for farming imo

but im also looking for better ways to farm darkness atm

[hexed shore]

I haven't reached the point where I've needed to farm

[ripe ruin]

got trolled this run with posiden

cycled through his options so many times and still no resource boost boon

[hexed shore]

Hahaha! Fishing for boons, little hades?

Maybe I should've went all caps

[ripe ruin]

So based on what I've read, not to expect DLC or even a sequel from Supergiant?

this is my first Supergiant game

[flat vapor]

supergiant don't do much DLC (pretty sure there was only ever one for bastion), nor have they made a sequel to any of their games

which isn't to say they won't (they had never done early access until this game), but it wouldn't be a surprise if they moved onto an entirely different project

which isn't to say they won't (they had never done early access until this game), but it wouldn't be a surprise if they moved onto an entirely different project

[ripe ruin]

too bad. seems like they've alluded to a lot of other content/characters they could add in

[inland shell]

source?

[pliant sparrow]

theyve alluded to apollo

and olympus

in game

[inland shell]

mentioning is one thing, but commenting on additions to the game is different. The characters mention many figures we probably wont see, like Heracles/ They are "telling a specific story" within the Greek mythos

[distant night]

they just said "seems like" not that sgg actually did

[ripe ruin]

^

how do i write spoiler comments btw? Almost dropped one here ha

[distant night]

|| like this ||

[ripe ruin]

||test||

[zenith crown]

I just had more bloodstones in Asterius than the length of their health bar.

[inland shell]

in the text field you can highlight+rightclick to add spoilers

[zenith crown]

[ripe ruin]

got it.
I just dont see why zag would bring up Nyx's children that have no bearing at all in one conversation

[inland shell]

I dont see why not

[distant night]

well because the fates leave the prophecies andnemesis has an aspect

[ripe ruin]

||Apollo makes sense with he seeing the sun and it being a part of the surface||

im pretty sure he brought up ones that arent the fates

[distant night]

||dont forget that that's not apollo in the game but helios and demeter talks about having banned him in her grief||

[ripe ruin]

I didnt pay too much attention, just noticed i didnt recoginize their names

ah true @distant night

[distant night]

and since ||the surface in hades' vicinity is still banned from non-snow|| so helios not being part of it all makes kinda sense

[ripe ruin]

i agree. His was kinda a nice deepening of the story/world building

[hexed shore]

Hera and hestia

[distant night]

whats with the goddesses of family in their own ways?

[sudden dock]

IGN GOTY! I'm so happy!

[inland shell]

Yeah I am elated each time they get recognized for this awesome work of art

[hexed shore]

Idk what they'd do in the game I'm just stating the prolly exist and aren't in game

[distant night]

tbh tho implementing gods of family boon-wise would be difficult

[cinder lichen]

We all know that Hades is GOTY, not even "in our hearts," it just is.

[gleaming oak]

LMAO

[winter harbor]

Polygon and IGN GOTY

Two out of three isn’t bad

[manic bobcat]

Some of the twitter salt is delicious xD

[lean path]

Ayyyyy I just saw IGN goty 🙂

Nice for Supergiant

[runic agate]

YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HAAAAAAAAAAADEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES GOT GOTYYYYY

[distant night]

have you also seen the twitter account that just names games that wouldve deserved goty more than tlou2?

[manic bobcat]

no, I have not

[distant night]

it's delicious

[manic bobcat]

link?

[brisk trail]

but is tlou2 better than imagine: party babyz?

[manic bobcat]

maybe in #video-games actually

[sudden dock]

Hades #2 of the year from Game Informer!

[wet frigate]

I completed an escape attempt for the first time
Im so happy

[plush citrus]

congrats @wet frigate

[wet frigate]

Thank you chaos shield and ares special very cool

[neat scroll]

doom and the artemis ares duo with the sword cooked the boss on my first boss kill

[waxen juniper]

I wanna do a meme build. Any suggestions?

[rough token]

Sea Storm Super Soaker

[waxen juniper]

Congrats :D

[waxen juniper]

I've done that one and I love it tbh

[rough token]

:D

Yank and Yeet?

Talos with Poseidon Everything

[waxen juniper]

Oh, it'd be a sin if I hadn't done that yet 😆

[rough token]

aight, aight

Mystery Dash = Achilles Aspect with Chain Skewer

[waxen juniper]

What is Mystery Dash?

[rough token]

see edit xD

I call it Mystery Dash

because you don't know where you're gonna end up

[waxen juniper]

What is the benefit of Achilles for this?

[rough token]

you dash to your special

[waxen juniper]

Ohhhhhhh. Yes please 😆

[rough token]

There's also a couple varieties of perma-charm builds

[tepid dust]

hazard bomb eris

[rough token]

my favorite is Aphrodite's Call with a ton of poms + Smoldering Air + Quick Favor + more stuff to speed up charging

[unkempt tapir]

HI

[tepid dust]

or do the thing haelian did where you wait out the deadline at the start of each biome and try to beat the game while youre losing 5hp every second

hi

[rough token]

oh jeez

[glass sentinel]

What is the chance of getting a legendary or duo boon without using the mirror?

[brisk trail]

from ellomenop:
Here are the chances of rolling a non-Hermes duo / legendary:
12% - Base chance of rolling duo/legendary per offered boon (in non-miniboss / non-styx rooms)
10% - increase from God's Legacy
10% - increase from corresponding god trinket

So for a normal room when you are running God's Legacy on the mirror and already have the pre-reqs, your overall chance of hitting the legendary/duo is:
39% - Chance with no god trinket and core boons not filled
51% - Chance with no god trinket but core boons are filled
54% - Chance with god trinket and core boons not filled
67% - Chance with god trinket and core boons are filled

so remove 10 for legacy

[hexed shore]

Woah I didn't know I was running a 50% chance all this time

[modern finch]

I love it when I have a super powerful doom effect on a rapid-fire bow. It got even better when I could deal 5x damage to armor.

[hexed shore]

Wdym super powerful

[modern finch]

pommed up

a lot

[hexed shore]

Pics or it didn't happen

[modern finch]

lol

sorry I was on nintendo switch

and I was just having fun

[hexed shore]

Rip

[modern finch]

but Ima try and get it again

[hexed shore]

How much was your doom damage

[modern finch]

~275 I think

for me that was a lot

Mainly bc I'm new

[hexed shore]

275 is a lot

[modern finch]

yeah

megara was no match...

[hexed shore]

Did you have aphordite too?

[modern finch]

I wish

[hexed shore]

Man that would've been insane

[modern finch]

I love heartbreak strike

[hexed shore]

Oh no I meant curse of longing

[modern finch]

oh yes

that too

lol

[lime urchin]

You can take pics on nintendo switch

[modern finch]

ik

but I forgot to

[lime urchin]

ohhh okay

[modern finch]

Im in another run so I'll try to

[waxen juniper]

Curse of longing is awesome!

That with dire misfortune 😍

[hexed shore]

Yep going fist attack ares with no regrets

[waxen juniper]

My only regret would be not having it sooner xp

[hexed shore]

I haven't played ares in a while, I'm going through a dio phase right now

[waxen juniper]

Dio is pretty fun.

[modern finch]

YES

HEARTBREAK STRIKE

[waxen juniper]

Since I am trying to max all my keepsakes, I have just been going where the wind takes me in terms of boons

[sour vigil]

Feels good when they're all maxed and you see all the pictures

[waxen juniper]

I do have all the pics. 😁

[sour vigil]

Took forever to get Hermes...

[waxen juniper]

I think ||Demeter|| was my last one. Hypnos was second to last

[hexed shore]

The only boon I force is aphordite

[waxen juniper]

Wait... How does dire misfortune work with hidden rail?

[hexed shore]

Doing runs without aphordite is a sin

[sour vigil]

For the attack bonus?

[waxen juniper]

Yea. Like how does dire misfortune stack with hidden rail

[hexed shore]

Yes and weak is like the best status

For ps

You don't even have to remember to reapply it cause it never wears off

[sour vigil]

It just ticks with the weapon attack I think

[waxen juniper]

Doesn't hidden rail have high dps?

[hexed shore]

It ramps up over time

[sour vigil]

I think he means attack speed

[waxen juniper]

Yep!

[sour vigil]

Which it does but it's not crazy.

I know it applies hangover really quickly.

[waxen juniper]

Dire misfortune with hidden rail sounds kinda nuts tbh

[sour vigil]

I've never tried it but I assume it will work.

[waxen juniper]

I have some experimenting to do tonight 😎

[hexed shore]

Man I need to upgrade so many weapons

[sour vigil]

Not sure if it would be faster than chiron special

[hexed shore]

I wanna play demeter but eris and hidden rail are also so tempting

[sour vigil]

Just estimating in my brain

[waxen juniper]

Ah, but chiron's special on doom is usually not a great idea to start out with

[sour vigil]

Definitely not optimal, ha

[hexed shore]

I mean I assume chiron special doom would be better than rail doom

[waxen juniper]

But doom on hidden rail attack definitely doesn't seem bad

[hexed shore]

Cause you can move

[sour vigil]

It's worth a shot, certainly

[hexed shore]

One might even say it's worth a beam

[waxen juniper]

I think spear has dark thirst on right now, but screw it! This sounds too fun!

[hexed shore]

My bow has dark thrist

Guess I'll try chiron doom

[waxen juniper]

Pray to the Gods that you get dire misfortune

[hexed shore]

Me out here planning to reroll common misfortune for rare or epic

Man I wish there was some way to increase rarity of boons you already have

[modern finch]

flurry shot + lvl 2 heartbreak strike + lvl 2 tempest flourish = 30 second megaera

simple math

[hexed shore]

Chiron?

[modern finch]

is that the name of the bow?

[hexed shore]

The bow is called coronacth

[modern finch]

oh

2 aphrodites

oh boy

ohhh

Aphrodite Poseidon duo

[hexed shore]

Does drunken dash apply at the end of dash or start

Nevermind I forgot codex exists

[waxen juniper]

Sigh, it's not looking like I am getting dire misfortune this run :(

[hexed shore]

Didn't get dire but I got curse of longing before furies

[kind onyx]

Haha nevermind I am stupid

[waxen juniper]

I am on Asterius and I got nothing doom related apart from the attack. The good news is that it is epic and there has been quite a bit of poms on this run

[hexed shore]

Same boat not seeing any ares

[waxen juniper]

Okay. Finally got dire misfortune and I have the merciful end package :D

It isn't insane, but dire misfortune definitely makes it a lot better.

Merciful end also kind of just sealed the deal

[fathom sentinel]

Aphrodite is just

[waxen juniper]

Easy game!!!

[hexed shore]

No dire rip

[crimson canopy]

was mad that hades wasn't nominated for any steam game awards but then I realized GOTY nominees weren't released yet

[hexed shore]

https://i.imgur.com/9zB9WyX.png

all i wanted was dire misfortune

[waxen juniper]

Ouch!!

[twin vine]

Just ran into the Goddess of Seasons

[waxen juniper]

Tell her I said hi

[twin vine]

Got the "No" Duo Boon that heals me when I have no Death Defiance

[waxen juniper]

Stubborn Roots

[twin vine]

Yup

And with the Gauntlets

And I just deleted an Armored Splitter by punching all 3 of their projectiles back into it's face

YES

[daring turret]

chaos's slothful boon when you move by dashing about everywhere anyway 😄

[twin vine]

And this is why the Aspect of Talos exists

[waxen juniper]

Oh no, this is bad. I have no DD's left and I just entered the final fight :/

[winter harbor]

You can do it!

Don’t give up hope just yet

[low nexus]

Noo i almost beat hades in 16 heat with spear

[waxen juniper]

OMG i did it!!!

I had Achilles Spear+Crush Shot. The build was incredibly strong, but survivability was definitely a worry

Yo! Hypnos is on the Employee Board :D

[calm laurel]

In his dreams

[daring turret]

I want to be on the employee board.

I just want dad to be proud of me sob

[hexed shore]

How does rush kick work with demeter fist

Does it hit 12 times or 7?

[hexed shore]

Rush kick deals damage twice

Demeter fists makes special hit +5 times

[brisk trail]

And Aspect of Demeter adds 5 hits at max level.

[hexed shore]

Okay so is that 7 kicks or 12?

[tepid pulsar]

hi

any builds for Spear

I have failed 3 runs

with the spear

[waxen juniper]

Achilled Spear is fantastic! I just had a crush shot run will achilles and it slayed!

[tepid pulsar]

I did the gun, the Gloves, the sword

[daring turret]

no help from me, I am just as terrible with spear. I've gotten maybe.. 2 runs with it?

[brisk trail]

hades spear, artemis attack is all you need

[tepid pulsar]

what boons are good for the spear?

[brisk trail]

or pray for flurry jab on zag/achilles

that's like auto-win

[tepid pulsar]

Gotta beat the game once with each weapon right?

[waxen juniper]

Not necessary

[brisk trail]

no, not really?

[tepid pulsar]

to get more titant blood

[brisk trail]

You can get epilogue only playing one weapon.

you have to clear a run to get more titan blood with a weapon, yes

it can be the same weapon over and over

[tepid pulsar]

eh?

How

I am not getting anything other than darkness

[brisk trail]

Gotta push Heat.

you need to beat it

and then add heat

to get the next set of rewards

[tepid pulsar]

I did on heat 1

once

[little haven]

Today my 25 win streak has come to an end. Gonna drown myself in some nectar

[brisk trail]

that's ok, winstreak doesn't matter that much

[hexed shore]

Sounds like something someone without a win streak would say

[daring turret]

I know nothing except blade rift blade rift blade rift.

[little haven]

Winstreak is the most precious thing in Hades dio ! And that's especially the way it ended. Of all runs, it was one that wasn't particularly difficult by I guess I just became too confident for the winstreak to keep on growing 😦

[brisk trail]

the immense Gamer Pain that comes with losing a win streak hurts so bad

[hexed shore]

Misty I did it!

[waxen juniper]

Did what?

[hexed shore]

https://i.imgur.com/XqiNZU9.png

didnt get splitting headache but it was still really good, that uppercut deleted like 40% of dad's hp

[sudden dock]

My epic losing streak is continuing. Maybe I should give up 32 heat, I'm not worthy...

[plush citrus]

love that flip kick animation though

[hexed shore]

Yea it was prolly the best upgrade for this build

[brisk trail]

yooo let's go

rush kick too

[lavish skiff]

can you do a run on extra heat twice and get reward both times?

[brisk trail]

nop, you can only get the bounty once

[lavish skiff]

hmmm

[brisk trail]

once per level of heat, 0-20

[lavish skiff]

then i shall end this run

[brisk trail]

don't give up my dude, you'll get it eventually

[hexed shore]

So going for extra heat is always bad?

[brisk trail]

maybe ya running a bad pact?

[plush citrus]

yeah i find it helps to tinker with the pact

[brisk trail]

i feel it's more good than bad, it'd be annoying to have to go up 1 heat at a time

[hexed shore]

I don't understand

Shouldn't you be going 1 heat at a time

[brisk trail]

so if you wanna step it up you can jump in heat and still get rewards the all same

or if that's not your thing you can do it 1 heat at a time

[carmine ravine]

if u want the bounties, its 1 at a time

[hexed shore]

So if my pact says set to 5 and I set to 10 will it claim heat 10s rewards or heat 5s rewards?

[brisk trail]

heat 5 rewards

[waxen juniper]

What is the farthest you've done before this

[hexed shore]

Okay so I can keep doing it 5 times in a row at heat 10 to keep getting bounties?

[brisk trail]

you can theoretically do 20 heat 20 times is what im saying

yep

[waxen juniper]

However, doing a completed heat run gives you a significant amount of darkness

[carmine ravine]

why would you handicapurself with 20 heat every time tho thats the question

[hexed shore]

It's more fun

[brisk trail]

because it's more challenging?

i jumped from like 8 to 16 to 32 on chiron

[carmine ravine]

eh, then play GY for all ur runs then

[brisk trail]

and 4 to 32 on other weapons

[waxen juniper]

15 heat is a good one to stay one so you can have all the erebus gates

[hexed shore]

Alright what are the easier pacts to activate, I'm gonna amp up my heat I think

[brisk trail]

TD, EM, MM

[carmine ravine]

wdym, just take the hardest ones, its more fun

[brisk trail]

good stuff to start with

[hexed shore]

What about jury summons?

[waxen juniper]

Benefits Package, EM2 (maybe EM 3), and Tight deadline are good starters

[hexed shore]

And benefits package

[brisk trail]

I would take JS later

depends on weapon

[cunning kettle]

Hey, how do I get ||The last aspects?||

[carmine ravine]

see yall still dont want to challenge urself either way

[waxen juniper]

Forced overtime is 3 heat, so assess whether or not you think you can handle it

[brisk trail]

forced overtime 2 is great if you wanna prepare for high heat

[waxen juniper]

Go to #h1-story-discussion and there is a pinned message that explains it. You can't miss it!

[brisk trail]

the best advice i read was to turn it on and never turn it off again

[cunning kettle]

Got it, thanks!

[hexed shore]

I think I'll get rekt by forced overtime but I guess I'll try it

[brisk trail]

once you get used to it, no FO feels hella slow

yeah, that's normal

[waxen juniper]

Forced overtime is difficult. Make sure you recognize that the speed of the bosses is drastically different. That may seem like a no duh thing to say, but well... everything will just seem off compared to what you are used to

[manic bobcat]

You know, I kinda want to see Hades with some small minigame/change of POV sequence, like the ones you have in Transistor, for example.

[hexed shore]

Jumping from 2 to 16 on rail, this should be fine 🤣

[waxen juniper]

Oh boy. Maybe start with 8 first and then go to 16

[brisk trail]

rail's the freest, or so i've been told

[manic bobcat]

every weapon is free

if you good, weapon good 😎

[brisk trail]

no, you pay for them with keys

[waxen juniper]

-_-

[brisk trail]

[waxen juniper]

But of those options Myth, Forced Overtime is gonna f with you the most

[hexed shore]

Lmao this is going to be baaad

[waxen juniper]

Expect to die, again and again and again

[brisk trail]

oh yeah, don't take EM4

[waxen juniper]

Don't be afraid to challenge yourself, but don't push yourself crazy hard

[brisk trail]

i guess it's fine at 16? but i hate that fight

[waxen juniper]

Yea... EM4 is anything BUT free

[brisk trail]

DC 2 should be free on rail too

[hexed shore]

I set to em2 cause idk if I can take asterius with overtime

[brisk trail]

fair enough

i still get hit by his charges

[waxen juniper]

Yeah... he got a wee bit faster wtih FO :p

[brisk trail]

i swear the bull ends my run in 2 hits @ max HL

i hate him but i also don't

[waxen juniper]

I don't think he likes you

[brisk trail]

his character is endearing

it's ok, as long as dio likes me

[hexed shore]

I guess jolted gets better on overtime

[brisk trail]

if FO is too hard, you can always skip it

[waxen juniper]

And so does rupture 😍

[waxen juniper]

What if dio just pretends to like you?

[brisk trail]

don't poke at my trust issues

[hexed shore]

Riiiip I can't keep up with the witches

[iron grove]

https://i.imgur.com/xo4EbfA.png Hnnng so close to the funny number

[waxen juniper]

Did you die to them?

[hexed shore]

No I'm in asphodel now

[daring turret]

i was today years old when I realized y'all are referring to dionysus with "dio". i've spent too much time on the internet and thought it was a jojo meme wheeze

[waxen juniper]

Well, myth, I hope you can keep up with the witches circle 😈

[brisk trail]

Kono dionysus da

[hexed shore]

Just beat the circle actually lmao

[daring turret]

Witches circle worst boss. I'm lucky and tend to get barge of death, but my SO is perpetually beside me also playing going "WITCHES CIRCLE AGAIN?!?!? <long stream of expletives>"

[waxen juniper]

Nice!

[hexed shore]

I got divine dash early on so things aren't horrible

[waxen juniper]

Witches circle is quite difficult without divine dash

Yea myth, that'll make it much easier

[brisk trail]

i admire swan's patience

witches circle more like

take 50 damage bumrushing them

the faster they're dead the less damage I'll take

[daring turret]

not what I thought you were gonna say, but this is a christian family friendly server

[waxen juniper]

Witches circle is pretty much a bullet h*ll

[brisk trail]

tfw you're on fists and 1 witch is vibing in the lava

[waxen juniper]

Cast?

[hexed shore]

Imagine not having talos fists

[daring turret]

lmao the only additional aspect I have unlocked so far is hera's

[brisk trail]

just eat the damage

i am a believer of stygian soul

[daring turret]

But to be fair, I only just got into the epilogue yesterday

[waxen juniper]

You can also just dash upper and dash out

[daring turret]

Need to take Hypnos' advice and get hit less.

[waxen juniper]

Hypnos is wise

[brisk trail]

gloop da yoink

hypnos just says "git gud" with more words

he do wat i yoinky

let hypnos say 4Head

[daring turret]

Who else's first purchases with gems were to get the goodest boy a fancy bed and some toys he will never use

[waxen juniper]

Quick question: why is this server set up to where you can't send pictures if people go out of their way to do it anyway?

[brisk trail]

adds a barrier to inappropriate images

[hexed shore]

You know what's cool, teleporting flame wheels

[waxen juniper]

They honestly aren't too bad. They just seem like a pain

[brisk trail]

are flamewheels dead cats

[daring turret]

Flame wheels said "Oh you thought you could dodge?" meow

They're baby lion chariots 😄

I thought it was pretty neat how you can kind of see the soul driving the chariot though?

[waxen juniper]

What really sucks is when flame chariots have lasers attached to them.

[hexed shore]

How does zeus' attack cool down work?

[waxen juniper]

Every 0.2 seconds, a bolt of lightning can hit again

[hexed shore]

Does the chain lightning proc if I have ricochet fire hammer

Since it's hitting a different person

[waxen juniper]

Ah, that I am not sure

[daring turret]

tfw you use than's keepsake to practice Not Getting Hit

[narrow hemlock]

makes it harder to blatantly spam. if youre going to come in and be disruptive you have to put more work into it :)

[iron grove]

I manually prevented the embedding if that's what you mean X3

[hexed shore]

I've used 4 defiances this run and I haven't even see asterius yet

[plush citrus]

yah this helped me a lot

[narrow hemlock]

embeds are fine, overall the way its set up works for us. each community adjusts it to what works for them

[sudden dock]

I can reach final boss, but he has at least 1 more life! So I've been close. Still there is hope, haven't hit 80% defence.

[waxen juniper]

No no, I mean what is the highest heat you have done (that you have beaten)

[sudden dock]

16

It was cakewalk

[brisk trail]

what's your weapon and pact?

[waxen juniper]

So you went from 16 to 32?

[sudden dock]

Yeah

[waxen juniper]

Boy you crazy!

[sudden dock]

It's a big difference

[brisk trail]

it do be

[hexed shore]

Rip my game crashed

[pliant sparrow]

oof

[sudden dock]

Usually going with rail, but the dmg is not quite enough if I don't go wine.

[brisk trail]

maybe you can recover one of the backups?

[pliant sparrow]

? are you going lightning attack, poseidon dash on eris?

usually i just melt bosses with that

• rocket cluster is the cherry on top

[sudden dock]

Lightning is good too for sure.

[brisk trail]

check the top pin in the high heat channel if you haven't

it's general advice for 32

[pliant sparrow]

i jumped from 20 to 32 heat and cleared in one run lul on rail

[manic bobcat]

shameless plug but I have been doing streaks on 32 heat so I can help, too

[pliant sparrow]

cuz i got patroclus, and then did an anvil and got delta + rocket, combined with my already cluster

and then in the last styx chamber i got sea storm right after i took poseidon cast needed for sea storm

[brisk trail]

how's your streak

[manic bobcat]

well im rebuilding it, at 3 now. last one was 17, died because ||gy|| dies to a breeze of wind

[brisk trail]

that's huge

[hexed shore]

That's what she said

[brisk trail]

sir we are a christian server

[hexed shore]

She was talking about my Bible

[brisk trail]

fair

[hexed shore]

I didn't try recovering the save cause I stepped in with the wrong aspect and keepsake but was too lazy to give up

[waxen juniper]

I'm atheist. Should I leave? :/

[sudden dock]

Hmm, maybe Approval Process is not worth it if at 32 heat...

[waxen juniper]

Approval Process is painful

[sudden dock]

I believe in my luck, but maybe it's too restrictive on me at level 1.

[hexed shore]

What's approval process?

Oh one less option

That sounds horrible tbh

Is there any reason to go for zag aspect over eris

[rough token]

machine gun :3

[manic bobcat]

Spreadfire

[quaint wind]

i play hades on switch and i like it a lot

im not a kbm fan and i dont like the xbox controller

[brave dove]

rolling knuckle
long knuckle
or heavy knuckle?

am using zag aspect with lambent plume

[rough token]

which one is heavy?

[brave dove]

attack is a 3 hit sequence with 40 base dmg each

[rough token]

not that one, I'd say probably long, unless you already have a bonus to dash-strike

[hexed shore]

I know long is good what's rolling

[brave dove]

dash strike does +60% and is added to attack sequence

[hexed shore]

Both are really good, I personally like long a lot for the range

[brave dove]

aight

oh ye

should i keep the plume on for temple of styx

or swap to acorn

[hexed shore]

It's pretty easy to proc plume but you'll get like 3 procs at msot

Wait don't you need to have it on for the effect to apply?

[brave dove]

oh wait yeah

[hexed shore]

Lol

[brave dove]

so plume the whole way then >.<

proc?

[hexed shore]

Activate

[brave dove]

ohh aight

[north pier]

plume is quite good the whole way

and the move speed is underrated

[brave dove]

hmm

flying cutter or colossus knuckle

[rough token]

colossus

[brave dove]

aight

[hexed shore]

What's colossus

Actually idek what cutter is

[north pier]

is flying cutter the one where you shoot a ring after you land

[brave dove]

LOL fighting thesus and asterius and why have acorn when can dodge all their attacks

[median crystal]

Any word on DLC? I need more

[hexed shore]

No plans of dlc so far

[north pier]

they continue to say that they see hades as a complete game. They've never done dlc before so I wouldn't hold my breath

i agree with them in that it feels complete

[median crystal]

Seems like a missed opportunity though, just add another path and a weapon or two.. take my money

[brave dove]

and more of the gods maybe

[north pier]

Again, I wouldn't hold my breath. Their games come out as complete polished packages and Hades is their best work yet. Expect minor bug fixes, and be surprised if they announce DLC

Personally I can't wait for their next project

[brave dove]

wait plume wont give dodge chance in the areas in temple of styx?

even tho their technically encounters

[north pier]

the small rooms no

the large rooms at the end of each path do count

[kind onyx]

the last room of every tunnel it will

[brave dove]

oooo

aight

[kind onyx]

the pom one, however, does work in those small rooms

[north pier]

they're rather stiff rooms for the plume

oh also the butterfly doesn't work in the small rooms

[brave dove]

wut does the butterfly do again

[north pier]

if it did you'd just get like 30 stacks for free

bumps up damage each room you don't take damage

[kind onyx]

damage for clearing rooms without getting hit

[north pier]

it's a significant percent

[brave dove]

oh

will the plume count those small rooms as "encounters" to lvl it up?

[north pier]

nope

[brave dove]

oof

[north pier]

that's what I thought you were talking about

[kind onyx]

same

[brave dove]

before was talking about the dodge chance :P

[north pier]

you do get dodge chance and move speed buffs in those rooms; you do get the plume buff

[kind onyx]

you get the dodge chance all the time

it just won't level up in those small rooms

[north pier]

you just can't stack it in the small rooms

[brave dove]

for the lvl up was wondering since the keepsakes have 1 star 2 star and 3 star

[kind onyx]

oh that is what you mean

honestly i don't know if those small rooms count for leveling keepsakes

[north pier]

if the room number goes up, keepsake level goes up with it

[brave dove]

oo aight

[hexed shore]

Mfw wanted to do a quick run but, Orpheus and eurydice had to sing in the blood so I'm not stuck in asphodel

[north pier]

Just order the vinyl record so you can skip to the best parts of the game

[brave dove]

.<

just me or does 2star plume give u less time to complete an encounter for the dodge and movespeed

[north pier]

Same amount

but

each encounter has its own time

so some encounters you get more time

[brave dove]

oh

[north pier]

yeah which is why it has probably felt inconsistent, there's a countdown clock just below the plume

[brave dove]

oof i keep not getting the plume cuz the enemies take too long to spawn

im basically insta killing the enemies (their the floating skulls) but by the time their all done spawning the plume is gone

[north pier]

yep, it actually pauses the timer when enemies are spawning but yeah if you miss an enemy in a corner it just won't spawn more

wait it does have a brief pause, right?

[brave dove]

dosent pause it as far as i can see rn

[north pier]

maybe i imagined that

[summer ember]

So in game you can click, Feedback, takes me to Discord, but no sub-section says feedback.. where?

[calm orbit]

Probably a leftover from early access, the feedback channel closed when 1.0 was released

[summer ember]

well this game needs on the PC side a controller section to change the back and accept buttons. Playing from PC to Switch is a mental nightmare since they have reversed mappings for back and accept - but the same buttons for dash and cash. I keep screwing up in game due to this flaw of 2 systems

makes me regret buying it on PC along with my switch

[calm orbit]

There is a control section of settings?

[prisma wind]

There is a control mapping menu but I don't believe it has options to change "accept" and "back" is the point being made?

[calm orbit]

Idk about epic but in steam you can also set your controller to change the button mapping to match a pro controller

[summer ember]

yes @prisma wind

you're not seeing my issue @calm orbit

they share the same exact layout for dash and cast, you cant just swap those

[prisma wind]

You can still submit feedback via the website https://www.supergiantgames.com/contact/ just select the appropriate field

[summer ember]

Done, Hope someone actually reads it. Steam wont refund me so I'm stuck hoping on a prayer they actually add a feature that should have been there since they're talking up cross saves so much.

[north pier]

This is typically the kind of thing that gets a patch- they'll read it, supergiant's pretty aggressive about patching legitimate problems like this

it is the holidays though so it may take a longer wait for the next minor bug patch to roll out

[brave dove]

when using the lambent plume and zag aspect fist lets u beat final boss without using a single DD finally

117/265 hp left

[north pier]

yeah plume is fire

and fists are super fun to use with plume

what stack did you get up to?

[brave dove]

31.2%

[north pier]

NICE

[brave dove]

well 32.4% after defeating final boss

[north pier]

IT COUNTS

because you OWNED IT

[tepid cedar]

I have a question about Boon Chambers

[north pier]

suh

[tepid cedar]

Sometimes a Boon Chamber will have different effects glowing from it

[north pier]

tru tru

[tepid cedar]

1] plain
2] glowing rays
3] sparkles

are these indicative of what they'll give

[prisma wind]

Somewhat, but it's easier to look at the combination of the laurel colour (blue or gold) and the skull icon and whether or not there's a chevron beside it

[north pier]

iirc yes but i'm not 100%, I usually look at the laurel modifiers and the skull modifiers

which are indicative of the rewards

[prisma wind]

A blue laurel room will give you basic resources or a shop, a gold laurel will give you boons, hammers, hearts, obols, or poms (or shop). The skull by itself on a room preview indicates an Elite encounter (double rewards for resources, higher rarity chance for boons). A skull with a red chevron beside it indicates a miniboss, which also has higher rarity chance

[north pier]

yup

[median crystal]

What is the chevron?

[north pier]

I haven't paid close attention to the rays, sparkles, etc but I haven't noticed any difference. A chevron is like an arrow that points upward

[prisma wind]

An upwards arrow like this

[north pier]

well I guess it's technically an arrow without a shaft, so instead of -> it's just >

[median crystal]

On either side of the circle?

[north pier]

it'll be next to the skull

so two red chevrons indicate a boss

iirc

[median crystal]

I see. What are the gold things on either side of the boon? That look like something Caesar would wear on his head hah

[north pier]

those are laurels, gold laurels always choose between boon, heart, hammer, obol, pom

[median crystal]

Oh I see

[north pier]

blue laurel gives darkness, nectar, etc

eventually you can ||influence which reward it gives||

but only ||within the bounds of that laurel, so you can't reroll darkness into a boon||

[prisma wind]

I just remembered that sparrow made a diagram for this very purpose https://discordapp.com/channels/456889434672201729/520688402958516254/660997126800539658

[lone sinew]

That's what I was trying to find lol

[north pier]

it's pinned in one of the chats

[prisma wind]

It's pinned in #h1-builds-and-combat

[median crystal]

Nice.

[brave dove]

which aspect is best for pierced butterfly

[prisma wind]

That's going to depend entirely on your comfort level and preference for the aspects

[brave dove]

oh

[prisma wind]

The "safest" will be a shield because you can block attacks, but that's no guarantee that you won't still get hit because it's up to how you play in the end

So just pick whichever aspect you're most confident with

[brave dove]

aight

[lone sinew]

ofc sword and fists are kind of worse that the rest but it depends on the gameplay

how much can you reach around 60%? (if you get every room)

[prisma wind]

I'm not sure on the exact number, it also depends on how many encounters you get on your run vs shops/npc rooms

I think it might be closer to around 50%?

[lone sinew]

not 50% I got 42 yesterday and I took dmg in 8 rooms I think I joined some shops and I didn't get 3 from styx

so It's at least 60

[prisma wind]

Hmmmm, ok. Still, hitless runs aren't easy

[brave dove]

LOL

[lone sinew]

I know...

[brave dove]

just dodged 4 hits in a row from final boss

lambent plume is gooood

[lone sinew]

especially wirh EM I managed Tisiphone and Hydra but Theseus and Asterius were so hard

and even normal Hades (I want to do it without defensive items) is hard

I'll remove ||heat|| though

[brave dove]

also with lambent plume and ||Heart of stone|| it was just

SPEEEEEEEEED

also got +25% dmg from the fountain thing dio gives u

[dull niche]

just gonna echo that it’s partially up to comfort but I find hestia very good for it

you one shot just about everything in Tartarus so if u can get the hang of reloading often, you can rack up a lot of butterfly damage from the get go

[brave dove]

oo

[lone sinew]

oh... I gotta try that I was doing it with Chiron

[dull niche]

issue w Chiron to me is that the special animation takes a while, so it’s easy to get clipped during ur special

[lone sinew]

Yes you are right. Hestia might be better

[dull niche]

also forgot to mention hestia has absurd range with its empowered shot so u can stay far away and be safe

try it out, see if u like it. again ultimately it’ll come down to what you feel the most fluid with

[lone sinew]

I'll give it A SHOT (because Hestia is the sniper aspect... im sorry for that.)

[dull niche]

LOL

[brave dove]

how about with aspect of eris?

[lone sinew]

with aspect of Eris you risk getting close to get dmg

so you hit them with special but you are in too

[dull niche]

a bit dangerous I think? I haven’t tried it but you want ur special to hit enemies but also you be in the area of the special

so u gotta get close

yeah

[brave dove]

||rama?||

[lone sinew]

slow

[visual yarrow]

Heya I saw something odd while playing in my current run and I just wanna know if this is how the boon is supposed to look/work or if it a graphic bug

would this be a good place to talk about this or should I take this to another channel?

[plush citrus]

check out the pinned post in #h1-tech-fixes for deets i think

otherwise the tech-support channel possibly

[visual yarrow]

ah okay cause I just wanna check if this may really be a graphic bug or just how this always was lol. So I want community opinion

[glossy gale]

How many hours of genuine enjoyment and fun can I expect from this game

[visual yarrow]

I have been playing this game for 253 hours and still going strong. So, I think it is safe to assume Hades will keep you entertained for a while lol

[glossy gale]

ooh damn nice

thats good

[tired sundial]

It can indeed draw you in.

The story and dialogue are engaging and good motivation to really keep going until all the depth of the action gameplay sucks you in

[manic bobcat]

I have 350 hours in and I like to do one run like every other days

[rapid forum]

Have you guys tried hades randomizer?

It's pretty fun

[vapid narwhal]

60+ hours working on epilogue and somehow I'm STILL seeing completely new dialogue this is absurd

[fringe sandal]

135+ here , i still see new dialogue , don't be surprised

[fringe sandal]

what is that

[rapid forum]

Well a randomizer, basically it sets your mirror power ups, weapon aspect, ||companion||, and ||heats|| if you want

But I don't like setting ||heat|| so I usually just go for EM4 only

[waxen wasp]

Hey there ! Bought the game yesterday and have been playing it for 6 hours, just wanted to say it's really great and beautiful. Thanks to the whole team :

[rapid forum]

Ayyy, glad you're having fun

[waxen wasp]

I do. Just beat the second boss and I really like it. It's not usually the games I play (FPS player) but i'm having a blast and it seems like there's still so much to do

...

Do you realize you just spoiled me which Fluffy tried to avoid 😦

[rapid forum]

Lmao

You had

[distant night]

please spoiler it?

[rapid forum]

One job

[distant night]

this is the no loud spoilers channel

please be mindful of that

[fringe sandal]

im sorry i didn't consider it as a spoiler

[distant night]

|| you spoiler like this ||

it is for new players and theres alot of them

even if you dont consider it a spoiler yourself - think of those lads and probably what you didnt know before beating ||father dearest|| for the first time

[fringe sandal]

yeah but is it a spoiler if i say "they are gonna take your kid in fallout 4" , it's in the beginning , so i thought like i got that feature in my first day so i don't think it's a spoiler

but people don't play the same so , sorry my bad

[waxen wasp]

It's fine nvm

[fringe sandal]

man i'm glad people are warning when someone spoils something , such an awesome community

[fringe sandal]

don't worry bruh it's one of the 100 features i just spoiled 1

[distant night]

well we love, welcome and cherish our newcomers

[fringe sandal]

guess you should also hide "heat" since you also might not get it on your first day

[rapid forum]

true

[waxen wasp]

Do you guys know if the game is meant to stay like this or if there will be DLC/updates/more features added in the future ? (yeah just started the game and already asking if there'll be more haha)

I'm just curious about how the devs see the game (is it a finished product or is it meant to evolve)

[granite ether]

the product is finished in that it's out of early access and has a metric tonne of content

will it get more content, no one knows at this point in time as Supergiant are taking a well deserved break

[waxen wasp]

of course, as should they

Thanks for the answer 🙂

[granite ether]

no worries