Best _____ Game: Hades!
Jk. It's Last of Us part 2 again.
#h1-discussion
south lava
nocturne ginkgo
Ya know I'm not salty about TLoU2 but WHAT I am salty about is ff7r getting soundtrack
slim grail
wait what? TLOU 2 won? awww. well it's expected. im actually rooting for FF7 ๐ฆ
nocturne ginkgo
remakes aren't welcome here
lone sinew
Not gonna lie the Greek mythology part made me happy too I'm such a fun like God of war winning a year (which wasn't so much about Greek mythology this time but still) and now hades reaching so far
oblique drift
LETS GOOOOOO
lone sinew
I think ff7 was the least likely to win
oblique drift
Agreed
slim grail
I think ff7 was the least likely to win
because of the remake? yea kinda thought so
sorry i enjoy playing ff7 so much haha
nocturne ginkgo
when I saw 7r in the soundtrack I did not think it had a chance
oh theres nothing wrong with 7
lone sinew
That too yeah but the rest of the game were just most likely to win
slim grail
I just don't think it deserved best soundtrack lmao
i only enjoy like 3 ost from ff7
nocturne ginkgo
its only part 1
slim grail
ugh why doom didnt win!!!
damn if only cyberpunk released early
i can just imagine they winning
warm acorn
shocked that they didnt shove cyberpunk in and forced a goty on it
prisma wind
If you want to talk about results of the awards show, please do so in #video-games
nocturne ginkgo
so whats everyones favorite god to start with
I like dionysus I love drunk cousin
rotund igloo
hermes--gotta go fast
nocturne ginkgo
I also like artemis I love getting a good crit build
plush citrus
poseidon is underrated, fishing uncle vibes
oblique drift
Dionosis + punch + hermes is awesome
nocturne ginkgo
The other day I got chiron bow with art special, crit destroys armor, special pierces armor, and +3 damage for each special hit
slim grail
i really hate charon and his bs attack now
prisma wind
Starting god for me just depends on what Aspect I'm using, but I'll never say no to Big Crit Energy
nocturne ginkgo
it was so fun shredding everything
slim grail
but i really need this stupid money
nocturne ginkgo
another good one is whats everyones main aspect
I'm very partial to chiron bow
I like watching the homing attack
nocturne ginkgo
I think for hidden aspects my favorite is sword and gun
I don't like hidden bow too much
past arch
Heck ye!
nocturne ginkgo
call me joker p5 cause for my neutral special I wield gun
past arch
Best aspects for me are Arthur, Chiron, Hades, Zeus
And a toss-up between Zagreus and Gilgamesh for Fists
And ofc Chiron bow
nocturne ginkgo
shield, lance, and gauntlets are fun but I need to be in a special mood to use them
past arch
The Zagreus aspect for fists + Lambent plume
Dodge chance is ๐๐พ๐๐พ๐๐พ๐๐พ๐๐พ
nocturne ginkgo
it is a funny build
I'm sad that zeus has that internal cooldown on lightning strikes cause chiron would shred with zeus otherwise
flat vapor
I'm sad that zeus has that internal cooldown on lightning strikes cause chiron w...
heh, that situation was exactly why the internal cooldown was implemented in the first place
chiron was too broke on release
sudden peak
I hate TLoU now, not because of Hades being robbed, not because the game itself had a massive amount of effort, but because its fandom was in a civil war and couldn't make up their minds
tight needle
It was so great seeing Hades nominated in so many categories, and never did I feel it was undeserved! The 2 wins were great, but I definitely think this game was my game of the year. Hands down. Even better than Cyberpunk on my own list!
nocturne ginkgo
I want to practice with hidden spear a lot more cause it can be fun but I feel like it really needs hammer upgrades to actually be useful
to me*
heavy fossil
plush citrus
yeah i've struggled getting used to the hidden spear
nocturne ginkgo
also I would still love to see a hammer trinket
gimme a hammer first room every time cowards
plush citrus
i always get SO excited to see a hammer right off the bat
thats how you know you're in for a good run
nocturne ginkgo
I love the anvil letting you now have a max of 3 weapon upgrades
you can get some funny stuff
I definitely think gun gets the best hammer upgrades though
just the special upgrades to gun alone add so much
plush citrus
i am pretty impatient with ranged stuff but yeah, i think the gun needs it the most! i should probably actually pay attention to which combo works best for me on it more
nocturne ginkgo
Man I really want to stream but I have a killer migraine that is killing me here
I have a question about hidden gun with the upgrade that lets you shoot 3 bombs fast, does that mean you can have 9 or does it just get your 3 out faster?
I haven't been offered that upgrade when I use hidden yet
prisma wind
You still have the same limitation on how many can be deployed as normal
slim grail
man that charon melee range is really unexpected. charon boss fight is hard af
prisma wind
Please use spoilers for that fight
flat vapor
please spoiler tag! ๐
waxen juniper
Yes, ||charon fight|| is undeniably a spoiler.
rose nexus
this my favorite server
amber lotus
man this server is really positive
probably one of the best by far, i'm so glad i got in here
static stirrup
Given what Iโve seen of who works for SGG, it makes sense that theyโd want to cultivate a positive space.
amber lotus
yeah i saw their documentary, i really had a fun time watching the devs just do their thing
seemed like they were happy working on it too
runic agate
E
rose nexus
zagreus, himbo of the year
rose nexus
yeah i saw their documentary, i really had a fun time watching the devs just do ...
o . o theres a documentary ?? i gotta see
prisma wind
Yup! Final part should be out in early 2021
Probably better off taking that question to #h1-story-discussion
limber temple
Will do
amber lotus
zagreus, himbo of the year
i'd let him crush me with his muscles
rose nexus
i'd let him crush me with his muscles
he couldnt hurt a ... butter..fly..
amber lotus
do the butterflies in elysium count
static stirrup
They just want to wub you!
amber lotus
:00
amber lotus
yea
winter harbor
best action and best indie
static stirrup
grumble grumble Last of us grumble grumble
amber lotus
*grumble grumble* Last of us *grumble grumble*
mood
at least the other games in the catalog didn't get completely robbed i guess
winter harbor
Hades won 2!
rose nexus
hades is goty in my heart
ffvii was good but i didnt grow up with the original,, and acnh had so many groaning fans over the past few months
but hades
a win in my book
runic agate
best action and best indie
YEAAAAHHHH
static stirrup
I donโt think remakes should be considered. Thatโs not to downplay the work that went into FFVII remake, but youโre still reworking previous content.
rose nexus
i mean ffvii looked like mega blocks.
static stirrup
On the other hand, I know that game is very important to the people who love it.
rose nexus
i think its bc it was well done imo, im glad it was nominated
plush citrus
less a remake, its a huge rework
static stirrup
i mean ffvii looked like mega blocks.
It was blocky af. I played the original on PS1. It was an experience!
brisk trail
A whole new combat system.
plush citrus
the story looks to have changed too
crude egret
๐๏ธ ๐๏ธ
brisk trail
And story stuff but that's spoilers technically
rose nexus
they cut out a lot of things bc ps4 only has so much memory space but
plush citrus
this is #h1-discussion btw we should be in #video-games for this chat
rose nexus
and then th chat just dies ahah
static stirrup
Dead as Zag on the first run into a new area.
winter harbor
Was it in asphodel?
static stirrup
Probably.
brisk trail
i died in asphodel like 9 times in a row when I started
winter harbor
The lava is deadly
static stirrup
The first time I saw a certain boss from the cover I was all โoh, itโs that cool thing from the poster art and Iโm all of the dead nowโ
viscid orbit
Wrong chat
winter harbor
Zag isn't fireproof
brisk trail
Wong chanel
static stirrup
Heโs the other kind of hot ๐ฅ
brisk trail
I actually beat bone Hydra first try (barely)
then made it all the way to The Boys and promptly got smacked
static stirrup
I limped in with no death defies and the fists... it was not a long battle.
The next time I had the shield and it went much better.
brisk trail
lernie is like the only boss I lose DDs to now
usually because I think I have way more hp than I actually do
static stirrup
Iโm not there yet. Still working on Elysium b/c kiddos. Play time is pretty limited for stabby stuff.
rose nexus
i only lose dd to butterfly balls
static stirrup
I HATE THOSE THINGS SO MUCH.
distant night
small or mini boss?
if you already have a call in those rooms dont use it for any other enemies, let it charge and then release the call onto the butterfly balls (with casts of course :) )
static stirrup
I will certainly try that.
placid plank
Ambrosia delight vs refreshing nectar; is the only difference the amount of boons they affect?
carmine ravine
no, nectar is better if u want to get duos and legends
placid plank
whats the difference between them rarity wise?
carmine ravine
duo and legends have prerequisites and its their own rarities
they are very effective in making ur build better
placid plank
I mean how does refreshing nectar do better
brisk trail
I take pom porridge almost every time
distant night
AmDe = up to 2 random Boons of yours are upgraded to the next Rarity.
ReNe = he next 3 Boons you find have upgraded Rarity.
and only the refreshing nectar gives chances for legendary or duos; Ambrosia elight gives heroics without trading
distant night
i dont think refreshing nectar gives heroics tho
since when you're looking at boon offerings the max is epic, heroics are only trades :/
placid plank
I feel like they aren't following the story line
or I just haven't gotten far enough
distant night
but better than the negative reviews on steam that have less than 4h
placid plank
I've almost beaten the 3rd world
distant night
"too repetetive gameplay" BROTHER YOU COULD TAKE 4h FOR JUST ONE RUN D:
quaint wind
there problems seem to be less hades and more they dont like the roguelike/roguelite genre
brisk trail
"repetitive gameplay" isn't that like. the point?
distant night
"repetitive gameplay" isn't that like. the point?
yes but if it's really too repetitive it isnt rogue-like since every time still works out different
placid plank
I personally don't like ROR2 as much; too much going on at a single time
distant night
most underrated keepsakes?
for beginers: acorn
for late game: ||hades'||?
prisma wind
most underrated keepsakes?
Guess it depends who is rating it. Bone Hourglass, though...
lavish skiff
i am def not late game, and from what ive seen acorn is very used
distant night
oh trueeeee
brisk trail
hourglass
radiant estuary
I think the issue they might have is that Hades is that the game doesn't changes quite as much as other rougelikes as you progress
manic bobcat
Having played RoR2 for about 200 hours and Hades for 330 hours, I can say that Hades has more variety because you can actually aim for builds
There is virtually no item choice in RoR2
distant night
hourglass is very underrated
manic bobcat
maybe some scrappers
radiant estuary
In the sense that the biggest different between run 1 and run 1000 is that you have more knowledge on how things go by 1000
So to speak
manic bobcat
most underrated keepsakes?
Earrings
With the recent buff people started using it more though
distant night
I think the issue they might have is that Hades is that the game doesn't changes...
or it's too easy, since some have huge issues in spelunky or enter gungeon and find that adrenaline rush of "ohhh hard" nice, so if hades is easy it's boring?
radiant estuary
At least, up until you get to higher heats
Though that can take long enough that most might end up missing it
manic bobcat
I think Hades doesn't have as many stages as other roguelites
distant night
true which is why 4h reviews being negative make no sense :DDD
manic bobcat
But that's far from saying it has no variety
distant night
true, 4 stages with just 69 rooms is pretty small but the randomness around your buffs makes it nice
brisk trail
see: hyper light drifter, hollow knight
manic bobcat
Yeah, I think Souls games does have some cheap deaths imo
I don't like cheap deaths
mint marlin
best indie and best action
brisk trail
tried to play DS1, not really a fan
mint marlin
lets gooo
brisk trail
not my type of difficulty
distant night
(hey fox, if dark souls were a dungeon roguelike would it be called dark dungeon or dungeon souls?)
prisma wind
Difficulty in Hades is nice because it's as hard as you want it to be, in the way that you want it to be
distant night
except for if you start a new file on hard
prisma wind
Well... yes, but that's still intent on the player's part
distant night
half
nocturne ginkgo
Btw wight just saw you answered my question the!
waxen juniper
Man... it is a significant adjustment to convert from controller to keyboard/mouse in this gamr.
manic bobcat
(hey fox, if dark souls were a dungeon roguelike would it be called dark dungeon...
It would be called dungeon dungeon.
nocturne ginkgo
Ty!
distant night
since usually you can chose the punishments
and hard fresh file just throws you in
brisk trail
I tried to play with controller and I legit could not
my brain wanted to dash with both B and RT, and wanted to interact with stuff with b
nocturne ginkgo
I've been playing k m forever tried controller and it felt so wonky
waxen juniper
my brain wanted to dash with both B and RT, and wanted to interact with stuff wi...
I'm dealing with the opposite problem. Controller's been my bread and butter and it feels quite tough with keyboard and mouse.
nocturne ginkgo
I'm sure I could actually rebind controller to be "correct" but it's easier to just stay on mouse
lavish skiff
does hourglass apply to patroclus?
brisk trail
nop
waxen juniper
I give up... this is nightmarish! I'll just wait a week or two until I have my controller back
lavish skiff
unfortunate
brisk trail
I like having two axes of control
wasd is for zag's movement,
mouse is for dashing/aiming
controller puts all of those on one stick
nocturne ginkgo
Yep
brisk trail
does not compute for me
lavish skiff
easier for me to aim whenever its connected to the movement control
brisk trail
if I were to play hades on a controller it'd have to be twin stick style
like hotline miami
prisma wind
Controller is generally more accessible gameplay-wise for Hades, from what I've seen of new players
lavish skiff
i play on switch and i play smash so maybe im just more used to aim being movement
steady crane
yo why i never see Dusa on employee of the week
brisk trail
whos ur main
lavish skiff
who
brisk trail
u
lavish skiff
bow, fists secondary
brisk trail
also lol I just realized I play smash in a twin stick style bc I use the c stick almost exclusively
meant smash
lavish skiff
oh yeah
hollow thistle
yo why i never see Dusa on employee of the week
she is the one who put them there
lavish skiff
swordies kinda
brisk trail
for tilts and aerials
lavish skiff
yeah same actually
nocturne ginkgo
I saw cerb once and lost it!
brisk trail
I main shulk, secondary cloud
steady crane
she is the one who put them there
oooooooooh
nocturne ginkgo
I love the low quality employee of the day
lavish skiff
well like i do marth/roy when i want to have fun, lucina/marth when i want to win
and ness whenever i need to rain down upon my enemy the wrath of the wifi warrior
which rarely happens
brisk trail
haven't played wifi since august
lavish skiff
oof
heavy fossil
yo why i never see Dusa on employee of the week
She's employee of the decade
lavish skiff
employee of the eon
manic bobcat
Interesting Hades discussion going on
lavish skiff
shhh
brisk trail
rail would work as a twin stick shooter
lavish skiff
nope
warped iron
๐
prisma wind
That's an interesting bug
lavish skiff
what happens if you try to recall them
nocturne ginkgo
What happened to cause that and can I replicate it in game lmao
brisk trail
|| guan yu ass attack https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/328246239160434691/785744671934251008/Hades_22.png ||
warped iron
Nah, it's not replicatable. I'm just working on a mod, and thought it was funny in that incomplete state.
nocturne ginkgo
Aw
lavish skiff
oh
patent bobcat
i just found poseidon atack, second wave, sea storm, splitting bolt and breaking wave, and in close spaces they just bounce bounce bounce and die lol
steady crane
||alright, i'm tired of trying, how do i get the secret shield?||
warped iron
||check the pins in #h1-story-discussion||
lavish skiff
is there some sort of hammer or something that makes them deal damage while opponents are in the area of a dropped one?
distant night
||alright, i'm tired of trying, how do i get the secret shield?||
#h1-story-discussion pinned message
manic bobcat
is there some sort of hammer or something that makes them deal damage while oppo...
Lightning Rod
steady crane
<#521035166471159828> pinned message
thank you
lavish skiff
i was just wondering because it would be funny
lavish skiff
lol
"oh no there is a floating spear in my way, whatever shall i do"
poke
"ouch i have died"
distant night
a very dramtic sleeping beauty but battle-style
warped iron
||i still have one other aspect to rework besides achilles, i now know what must be done. thanks for the idea||
also ||https://imgur.com/a/BS41WJZ|| - sword
iron matrix
Where can i find wallpapers/art of the game in high quality?
quiet gull
Is that.... Eris sword? lol
warped iron
yes, pretty much
upon picking up the cast, deal more damage for 6 seconds
(still not sure how to make it work with the mirror of night upgrade)
quiet gull
Yeah, I dont think that condition works for Stygian Soul
warped iron
yeah but the condition of dislodge doesn't work for all casts so
๐ฉ
in a pickle here
warped iron
I'm gonna head off. Ping me if you come up with any condition that satisfies all casts and both mirror of night upgrades, yeah? That'd be cool.
quiet gull
hera's ability of dislodge time decrease is nothing to stygian users
It's honestly not terribly relevant to Infernal users either, except during boss battles
green maple
oh
brisk trail
wouldnt upgrading hera make it worse with stygian?
green maple
I'm gonna head off. Ping me if you come up with any condition that satisfies all...
its pretty fine to give a curse to enemies that have bloodstones "lodged" in them
green maple
wouldnt upgrading hera make it worse with stygian?
sort of, yes
quiet gull
wouldnt upgrading hera make it worse with stygian?
In the only event that matters, ie bosses, you still end up benefitting more from the increased DPS by being able to use your casts faster
misty jolt
Just had a run with 4 duos then a run with 5 duos right after. Had 4 before the end of the third area. ๐ญ
waxen juniper
I don't know why you're crying. That sounds dope!
prisma wind
Tears of joy I imagine
waxen juniper
Ah, good point
misty jolt
Doing it again. One duo so far before end of first area. Standard
glass moth
having a graphics problem with hades, all the models are cut off by invisible walls
i dont really know how to explain it
manic bobcat
thick swallow
dim merlin
oh mb
waxen juniper
Doing it again. One duo so far before end of first area. Standard
Aren't you lucky!
manic bobcat
you can also just reset the game maybe?
misty jolt
For now
quiet gull
Verify game files, or just turn it off then on again
elder aspen
Hades -GOTY in our hearts
remote anchor
Gotta hand it to tlou2 though
It seems like a AAA game that didn't shop broken. It's apparently a high bar to pass these days
native sorrel
so what awards did hades win
pliant sparrow
indie, action
manic bobcat
Best Action and Best Indie
waxen juniper
Hades really is a phenomenal game. I cannot deny that one bit. I was skeptical on picking it up for a long time, but I am sure glad I did.
novel wasp
Hades wins because it has a sentient ronk
misty jolt
And broke my record. 7 duos and 1 Hermรจs legendary in one run.
Lucky indeed @waxen juniper
waxen juniper
That is incredibly lucky! I'm lucky if I get 1
misty jolt
Lol yea idk wtf is going on. 3 runs in a row going crazy
Multiple times I had two legendaries to choose from.
Canโt wait to lose all this luck later ๐
Hermes legendary ruins my zues Artemis duo tho. But I took it for prophecy since it was my first time seeing it
waxen juniper
What artemis/hermes duo did you get?
misty jolt
? Just a legendary from Hermes
Pretty sure Hermes donโt got duos
Hermes legendary was for casts to instantly return to me
waxen juniper
Okay, and what was the artemis duo?
misty jolt
Heart Rend (Aphro), Lightning Rod (Zues), and Splitting Headache (Dionysus) were my 3 Artemis duos
waxen juniper
So way too many :p
misty jolt
I mean I did get 7 duos lol
Either way Zues and Aphro Smoldering Air Duo with Athena call just feels so strong. Feel unkillable
modest lantern
I think I'm getting better at killing all the bosses
I used to have trouble with the last 2 but I just did a run with only using 1 dd
prisma wind
Progress!
swift ginkgo
Big congrats to the devs for the two awards, it's really deserved!
lone sinew
In what channel do I ask about relationship with characters?
nocturne ginkgo
probably story and spoilers
waxen juniper
^
lone sinew
alright thx
manic bobcat
Please post that kind of stuff in #self-promotion
brisk trail
hades best action game pog
hearty lichen
yes pog
cunning torrent
where do i ask questions
brisk trail
depends on what u need help with/are asking about
cunning torrent
is maim damage affected by percentage damage boost boons
granite ether
yo @minor igloo please post that now deleted youtube link in #self-promotion, the hades channels aren't the appropriate place for it, ty 
cedar imp
fiery presence would've been great if it includes armor in the condition rather than literally just undamaged (damage only starts when actual hp goes down)
nocturne ginkgo
With everything in the game I think the only QoL thing I can ask for is to have a multibuy button for the broker
gimme a hold (button) to buy 10 ya know
astral moat
I really wanted Hades to win best Music. It's been the one soundtrack i've been playing in the car all year
nocturne ginkgo
I've been saying that all night lol
astral moat
It's true though!
brisk trail
what won best music
astral moat
Final Fantasy 7 Remake, I can't comment, I havn't played it. But I know the FF music in general is good
brisk trail
Haven't had the chance to play 7R myself yet but I watched most of a playthrough of it on Twitch and if it didn't out-and-out deserve the award it was in the running.
opal magnet
did hades win anything?
brisk trail
Best Action and Indie.
opal magnet
good
green maple
Best Action! Pretty cool
glass moth
holy crap, the ??? person looks amazing
muted valley
??? ?
glass moth
chaos *
waxen juniper
Cant get off of it
Don't worry, neither can we ๐
fiery sphinx
Iโm like, if I die I rest. Then Iโm like, one more
waxen juniper
Yea... Hades has been my sleep schedule lately ๐
waxen juniper
big green gem, medium red and small yellow
Gemstones. If you don't know what they are for yet, you'll find out pretty early
burnt breach
With everything in the game I think the only QoL thing I can ask for is to have ...
on it
glass moth
got a couple keepsakes now, what are they for?
nocturne ginkgo
Heck yeah cause thats the only thing in the game that gives me issues
glass moth
from gifting that orange thing
nocturne ginkgo
they are little bonuses you get when you wear them
which range from extra damage if you clear a room without getting a hit, to making you meet a god to get their boon
when you are in the lobby with your weapons you will see a glass case and from there you can read the effects of them
waxen juniper
@glass moth it sounds like you just picked up the game. This are simple questions that can easily be found out for yourself by just progressing. I encourage you do just that.
covert charm
the game should have more weapons imo
waxen juniper
And a spear!
covert charm
the game already has a gun
heavy fossil
waxen juniper
Maybe even a shield!
brisk trail
what other weapons do you think they could add
rain thorn
A pen
waxen juniper
A cucumber
rain thorn
because its mightier than the sword
atomic seal
A dong
heavy fossil
Charizard
brisk trail
how bout some shoes which kick
grizzled wagon
A pen would be OP
nocturne ginkgo
Honestly I really do want a hammer
covert charm
its annoying being able only get 6 titan blood per hades kill
waxen juniper
And this is why we arem't game devs kids.
brisk trail
hammer would be sort of like the sword
heavy fossil
Dusa should be a weapon
waxen juniper
its annoying being able only get 6 titan blood per hades kill
That's a lot. How are you getting 6 a run?
heavy fossil
molten nymph
so ||arthur||
brisk trail
add another sword aspect
nocturne ginkgo
add another aspect to EVERYTHING
waxen juniper
Misty, do you like the sword?
brisk trail
all the current sword aspects are good
nocturne ginkgo
The aspect of aspects every room your weapon changes
covert charm
so im grinding hydra for 5 diamonds so i can unlock a gate from the contractor
heavy fossil
Sword aspect that attaches a gun to it
covert charm
what does the gate do
waxen juniper
Ah okay. So you just need 5 runs that get there. That's not too bad
rain thorn
||It's just an extra chamber that gives regular rewards||
molten nymph
erebus gates is a double or nothing room
either you get extra rarity, double pom, double heart, double cash
or get hit once and get nothing
brisk trail
I wouldn't get it if ur in early game
do you have all the other diamond work orders unlocked
nocturne ginkgo
wait do you not get onion anymore?
manic bobcat
You do
molten nymph
oh yeah
rain thorn
you do if you lose
covert charm
erebus gates is a double or nothing room
either you get extra rarity, double pom...
i tought it was like another realm
nocturne ginkgo
oh ok
molten nymph
you get onions
waxen juniper
If you are in the early game, it's irrelevant
covert charm
now it just sounds boring
manic bobcat
But onion is basically nothing
brisk trail
have u got the other contracted diamond like health for darkness
nocturne ginkgo
onion is funny
brisk trail
thats p good
it's only 3 diamonds
td2 mm is how I let myself get Erebus gates in tartarus
covert charm
i could buy that
molten nymph
i hate teleporting enemies in erebus
brisk trail
yes^^
rain thorn
I actually lost tight deadline 2 as I went into erebus and also chaos in tartarus 
waxen juniper
So far the contract that gives you gemstones each boss fight has been incredibly significant.
brisk trail
I havnt tried tight deadline 2 yet seriously
molten nymph
bow
brisk trail
I honestly don't go for gem doors as I get so many from fishing
waxen juniper
Depends on the day.
covert charm
rail
covert charm
the thing where the rail has extra damage for manual reloads
waxen juniper
Oh right, that's technically a spoiler
covert charm
its op
nocturne ginkgo
bow
waxen juniper
Empowered is strong. Even the first rail aspect is good
covert charm
demeter has really good boons for the rails special as well
molten nymph
i don't like the gameplay flow of rail
brisk trail
same
molten nymph
but they are good
covert charm
theyre both good
waxen juniper
I've gotten used to it.
brisk trail
for me it's shield> fists > spear >bow >sword >rail
waxen juniper
The only aspect I am very indifferent towards right now is chaos. I just can't get it to work :/
molten nymph
mine is bow > fist > shield > sword > spear
waxen juniper
Ummm... special. Easy
brisk trail
the small vermins
molten nymph
...yeah
brisk trail
nah speacil is too slow
molten nymph
or dash attacks
covert charm
for me its rail>bow>shield>fist>sword>spear
brisk trail
yeah but I still take hits but with any other weapon I never get hit by thr small bermins
covert charm
the rail is really good for not getting hit
brisk trail
tbh I havnt given the rail too many attempts
covert charm
you can just fire your special
brisk trail
the rail special is useless if u get Dionysus casts
molten nymph
rail is in weird spot where i know its good and i get good results
covert charm
the deadalus reforge to make the special turn into a normal rocket is super op
bc of the range
brisk trail
rail is used by alot of speed runners doe
waxen juniper
Well, not if you have eris @brisk trail
brisk trail
cause it's really quick
brisk trail
is eris an aspect of rail?
molten nymph
but i really don't like the downtime between the second dash and reload completion
covert charm
for a lot of damage
brisk trail
I havnt unlocked it yet
covert charm
i use the aspect of hestia
molten nymph
and i never pick dio cast in non-cast runs
covert charm
the reload one
molten nymph
because boiling blood is too good
waxen juniper
Yep! It's the 2nd one. If you get hit by your special, you become empowered for 4 seconds
brisk trail
dio, Athena, demeter casts r really good
waxen juniper
Crystal beam FTW
brisk trail
true
glass moth
just beat the hydra first time! using spear first time! o:
brisk trail
nice!
waxen juniper
Nice!
glass moth
crazy fight
brisk trail
iirx it took me like 3 or 4 attempts to beat it
waxen juniper
It took me quite a few runs to even consider beating the 3rd boss. So good luck @glass moth
brisk trail
maybemore lol
glass moth
hahah well i used my cheat death in the fight with the hydra. and i just bought it back for 200
so lets see how far i can get with it
brisk trail
death defiance is so good
glass moth
the 2nd stage is much harder than first, now im a bit nervous for the 3rd rofl
brisk trail
3rd is the hardest
glass moth
but actually in love with the game so far, its sooo beautiful
brisk trail
it is
waxen juniper
Yep. And 4th is the... "is your run actually good?" Stage.
brisk trail
4th is......
glass moth
whats that mean?
waxen juniper
If the run is trash, stage 4 will let you know
glass moth
as in your luck with skill drops?
waxen juniper
as in your luck with skill drops?
No... I mean more like you're gonna get wrecked.
brisk trail
your boons and other things u find in your run
waxen juniper
Floor 4 is very, very deadly
brisk trail
no spoilers
waxen juniper
^
brisk trail
there's a LOT of content
waxen juniper
That is the understatement of the year ๐
glass moth
certainly seeming that way.. haha
brisk trail
honestly feel like it got robbed of GOTY
waxen juniper
I am 60 hours in and I am still unlocking new stuff
brisk trail
Is Aphrodite's Trial hazard supposed to teleport?
waxen juniper
Eh, Hades just isn't as popular as the other
waxen juniper
Is Aphrodite's Trial hazard supposed to teleport?
Yea... It's a pain.
brisk trail
tlou2 really?
rustic valve
yup
waxen juniper
Aphrodite and ||Demeter|| are arguably the hardest god trials
rustic valve
Much as it got a lot of hate, the game has a giant fanbase outside the ranty online gamers ๐
rustic valve
Aphrodite and ||Demeter|| are arguably the hardest god trials
gods, I hate the latter trial so much
rustic valve
Dio is also annoying, but not that painful
molten nymph
aphro is weapon dependent i feel
brisk trail
||demeter|| is the worst
molten nymph
with bow i usually don't have much trouble
waxen juniper
Athena's is just neat.
rustic valve
Athena's is okay, but slow.
waxen juniper
I like how she is represented in the trials/ ||Theseus||
rustic valve
One last enemy and you just gotta wait until they stop being invuln
heavy fossil
Athena is just pretending to be mad. She loves us too much
waxen juniper
Her ||Theseus|| attack is incredibly smart. ||She attacks first on the outer circle, forcing you to go in, and so she then attacks inside||. I love it!
brisk trail
I keep forgetting Most of them the gods are cousins with zag
glass moth
just got a 2nd daedalus hammer on 3rd area!
yew!
using spear, and my special attack is pre strong now B)
waxen juniper
Yep! You should usually be offered 2 by that point
weary parrot
yeah i usually get one in tartarus and another in elysium!
glass moth
tartarus is first area right?
waxen juniper
Yes
brisk trail
yea
glass moth
whats the second called?
brisk trail
asphodel
glass moth
thats right, ty
waxen juniper
So far you have seen Tartarus, Asphodel, and Elysium in that order
glass moth
yep and i just met asterius, but i feel like i havent done enough encounters to vs the boss yet...
waxen juniper
Interesting observation
brisk trail
did u beat him?
glass moth
no, just talked, about to fight rn i think
waxen juniper
Good luck
brisk trail
gl!
sweet merlin
Theseus dialogue is so so good
glass moth
waitm, hes not the boss?!?! lol wtff
waxen juniper
Isn't he fixed to always show up in the first run?
brisk trail
|| he thinks asterius is the final boss lmao||
waxen juniper
waitm, hes not the boss?!?! lol wtff
No one said that
waxen juniper
|| he thinks asterius is the final boss lmao||
Technically, he's not wrong
brisk trail
|| for me theseus is so much more annoying than asterius||
weary parrot
iโm having a ton of trouble unlocking artemisโ heart oof
literally been resetting a run like 30 times and still no dialogue
glass moth
damn it, died
waxen juniper
#h1-story-discussion ask the question there.
glass moth
got him to half
brisk trail
^^
waxen juniper
Oof. Good try iiii!
glass moth
not bad for first time using spear
weary parrot
oh oops sorry!
brisk trail
thats better than most peoples first try at asterius
waxen juniper
Not at all :)
weary parrot
good job iiii youโll get him next time
brisk trail
i died to the small chariots on my first time in elysium
waxen juniper
oh oops sorry!
No worries. It is just a question that is pretty deep in the story at that point
Flaming chariots... got to love them
glass moth
yeah, fighting boss with unknown pattern is always bit tricky :3 his jump got me a couple times, and his wide aoe sweep
weary parrot
hate those guys theyโre rlly horrid
brisk trail
ull figure him out soon!
glass moth
๐
weary parrot
same, i think the majority of players beat the game arnd the 20th attempt too!
weary parrot
mine was try 22
waxen juniper
Phew, I'm not the only one
brisk trail
first times always special
there was a run with fists where i was on 10HP pbbly my closest run
waxen juniper
The nice thing is your skill just gets better from there. I'm about at the point where my win percentage is greater than my loss percentage.
brisk trail
wow
waxen juniper
there was a run with fists where i was on 10HP pbbly my closest run
Dang!
weary parrot
same here! i think i havenโt lost in about 40 runs
glass moth
time to try the shield for the first time!
brisk trail
shields gr88
weary parrot
shield is really fun + beginner friendly youโll have a great time
brisk trail
whenever i take spear i always hope for a hammer to replace the spin move
waxen juniper
Nice!
I tried doing 16 heat to complete a prophecy/ ||skelly statue||, and I failed about 4 times. So that win loss ration is not as nice as I'd like it to be.
I also tried doing it with shield lf chals, and I SUCK with that aspect.
burnt breach
@nocturne ginkgo https://imgur.com/Q0okEAL
weary parrot
iโve never once used the spin move
brisk trail
its really slow
brisk trail
yess
glass moth
wow!
brisk trail
u can hold X to block any attack from the front
weary parrot
my highest heat is around 12 or 13? taking a break from the heat to progress dialogue
waxen juniper
I do like Aspect of Hades for that. That was one time where it felt natural to capitalize off the spin attack
weary parrot
i always just use aspect of achilles, if you get a hammer upgrade for the increased critical chance it gets really good esp w a good god boon
brisk trail
aspect of achilles is so good
waxen juniper
Achilles is great for backstab damage!
weary parrot
my go to for cast builds is always poseidon
waxen juniper
Interesting decision
nocturne ginkgo
Yooooooooo pony thats so hot!
waxen juniper
my go to for cast builds is always poseidon
||Beowulf|| easy!
burnt breach
I love it
still wip (need to add text that says you can do that, exclude limited time offer) but it's functional
nocturne ginkgo
oh yeah but thats still so cool man
burnt breach
people who can mod are so awesome!
hades is a very easy game to mod really, what you're able to do mostly comes down to your understanding of how things work
glass moth
looking on the wiki but cant find it, its a chamber reward preview, the icon looks like a target/scope. its yellow
waxen juniper
Athena
brisk trail
take athena every time
weary parrot
divine dash supremacy
glass moth
ohh thank you!
even over centaur heart? i just went to chaos
brisk trail
yes
glass moth
alrighty then
waxen juniper
Divine dash is pretty incredible
brisk trail
unless ur on low health ofc
waxen juniper
Even so, you need to establish a build
glass moth
looking on the wiki.... holy crap, each god has so fking many skills @grand thistle_@
brisk trail
i wouldt want to risk loosing death defiance doe
waxen juniper
You won't need the wiki. :)
brisk trail
looking on the wiki.... holy crap, each god has so fking many skills <@147455922...
dont use the wiki too much
waxen juniper
What were the options
glass moth
i got holy shield
waxen juniper
What did the other 2 do?
glass moth
umm phalanx shot
brisk trail
sure footings not good
waxen juniper
Tbh, I think Phalanx shot was the play
brisk trail
how many casts do u have
glass moth
hmm, i think i wont use cast much this round
waxen juniper
sure footings not good
Well, heightened measures begs to differ
brisk trail
if u have only 1 its not worth it
molten nymph
i'm a big fan of holy shield
glass moth
because my basic attack is strong
waxen juniper
Kyez, they just started
brisk trail
p sure i had 3 casts quite early on
glass moth
sorry, can i ask another question? its not listen as an item on the wiki
brisk trail
sure
waxen juniper
You have to sink darkness into it for that to happen. They are only 3 runs in, so that definitely hasn't happened yet
glass moth
reward icon - money bag with golden skull
waxen juniper
Shop
heavy fossil
Charon meet n greet
glass moth
thank you ๐
waxen juniper
Also, just go through the door and see for yourself
glass moth
ill pick gemstones over that ๐
brisk trail
nono
glass moth
?
weary parrot
if u have money donโt!
brisk trail
You have to sink darkness into it for that to happen. They are only 3 runs in, s...
oh i dint know
glass moth
150 coins only
weary parrot
yeah go buy a boon
waxen juniper
150 is enough
glass moth
wait wtf
heavy fossil
Charon sweetie
glass moth
money resets after each death?!?!
heavy fossil
molten nymph
yep
glass moth
OMG
waxen juniper
Yes it does
molten nymph
roguelike bby
brisk trail
|| charon kicked my ass when i stole from him||
heavy fossil
brisk trail
never expected that
glass moth
fkkk i didnt knowwwww
weary parrot
||i just killed him the run before this it took all 3 of my death defiances||
waxen juniper
|| charon kicked my ass when i stole from him||
Did you learn your lesson?
brisk trail
Did you learn your lesson?
never did it again
waxen juniper
They'll be a time where you may have to
weary parrot
||hes a bit easier if you manage to fight him in elysium w a build||
brisk trail
Ohh then i might try when i have a good build
last time i got out after loosing 2 death defiances and dint find Patty in elysium
waxen juniper
Oof! That'll happen
weary parrot
just stay behind him and youโll be fine bc his oars only sweep the area in front of him
brisk trail
yeah but the other move is hard to avoid
brisk trail
yeah I willl
it's just that new bosses on first try is hard
I've avoided him so far cause I thought it would affect tight deadline
waxen juniper
Oh yeah! I died on my first and second attempt.
But after some practice, he really isn't that bad. You just have to not be sloppy
brisk trail
oh ok
waxen juniper
@glass moth how's the run?
molten nymph
he doesn't pause the timer iirc
and the problem with him is the later you fight him the less value you get
brisk trail
yeah thays true
brisk trail
he doesn't pause the timer iirc
oh that tuff
waxen juniper
Just checked, tight deadline is still active during the fight
So yeah, only do it if you have a solid run. I imagine it's relatively fine of TD2, but never on TD3
glass moth
@waxen juniper went afk for a little bit, back now
is aphro the white/pink heart thing?
hushed pumice
glass moth
okay, so far i have 2 gods, aphro and athena. now i have the choice to pick either of them again. if i pick them again, will i get new skills from the, or upgrade my existing ones?
(i dnt know the difference between the 4 skills and the other many boons btw)
burnt breach
@nocturne ginkgo finalized version https://imgur.com/iqtDPw8
burnt breach
oh I didn't see you were in it, I would have pinged you there instead
nocturne ginkgo
oh no worries lol
glass moth
what does the red up arrow and a * next to a reward icon indicate?
cursive halo
ooh thats a neat mod
brisk trail
red arrow is ares
waxen juniper
If it looks like it's a funky symbol, it's probably a god
cinder lichen
I think theyโre talking about the miniboss room
Ares would very clearly be a red sword, not an arrow next to a reward.
nocturne ginkgo
all I can think is maybe they are talking about a boon swap
attack for rarity up kinda thing
cinder lichen
You know how whenever you approach the first worldโs boss, the room has its reward next to two red arrows and a skull?
The same goes for minibosses, minus one arrow. For more difficult, non-miniboss rooms, those would be marked with only the skulls.
nocturne ginkgo
huh I'd never noticed I guess
cinder lichen
Mhm, know your rooms!
cinder lichen
I canโt believe that if I had skipped that one ad on YouTube about breaking out of hell and Hades is your dad, I wouldโve rocked up to GOTYA, saw whatever was trending in Hades, and said โWoah, cool, never saw anything for it so anyways-โ
if, I managed to avoid Youtubers playing it also
glass moth
@waxen juniper now vsing minotaur and theseus together...
nocturne ginkgo
how have I gotten an erebus chamber in almost every other room, but not seen a single chaos gate I'm callin hr to report this lmao
brisk trail
I hadn't realized, but Hades is actually the second highest rated game on steam atm o:
nocturne ginkgo
Nice!
can chaos gates spawn in area 4?
cause I don't think I've ever seen one past 3
brisk trail
not unless you force them with the well
You can't force chaos from well in Styx
I see, mb
nocturne ginkgo
thats what i figured
I started the run with the egg
and didn't get a single forced gate or regular gate
like thats just unlucky
limber goblet
man, Im kinda salty about the game awards
I feel like Hades deserved it more than Last of Us 2
if not Hades it should have been Doom
nocturne ginkgo
eh Goty is just critic bait however hades was robbed from soundtrack
granite ether
Hades did pretty dang well with the critics though tbf 
clear drift
is there a chat were we can send suggestoins or somthing like that?
granite ether
got a bunch of goty awards from publications
nocturne ginkgo
yeah but its not a triple A critic game lmao
granite ether
their used to be one, but that channel got removed a couple of weeks post launch
granite ether
yeah, that suggestion has come up a fair few times
granite ether
one I'd personally like to see, would be a nice QoL improvement
clear drift
imagine going to 30 heat and u want to try a new thing with another weapon and u just sit there manually doing it
glass moth
why is my cheat death not working? o.o
inland prism
So best action game huh?
granite ether
yeah and best indie
inland prism
Definitely deserve it and even more
granite ether
well deserved on both awards
100% agreed, would have loved to see them take best soundtrack and/or goty but alas that was not the case
inland prism
Great job developers, thank you for this fabulous game and hope to see you thriving!
granite ether
FF7R is respectable for best soundtrack, squeenix tends to do great work on the ost front
inland prism
Even more!
inland prism
FF7R is respectable for best soundtrack, squeenix tends to do great work on the ...
I canโt stop listening to any soundtrack that is under square enix tbh
granite ether
niceu
mossy pendant
Is there an official place to give feedback on feature requests? I'd love the ability to reset Titan blood, just like you can reset the mirror!
granite ether
their used to be one, however the channel was removed a couple of weeks post launch
slim grail
you know the game progresses with the storyline when you start to lose in the game when they first started but ... im just wondering, what if someone manage to go through all the levels on their first try.. like... what happen there?
sucks no one did it. I tried but failed.... badly
rustic valve
People did manage
there's a special dialogue you get at the end
but that's it ๐
harsh sky
Lets try
tacit ember
me: gets epic zeus attack
athena: thats nice but mins bigger (heroic athena attack)
slim grail
there's a special dialogue you get at the end
ok i just saw on youtube. wtf? feels like the dev indirectly saying "we didnt think players will get this far on their first try so we havent make up a story for that one"
rustic valve
I mean, it's specifically not that, because they did think of the possibility...
There's a devs react speedrun, iirc, where they even talk about it.
What should have changed otherwise, anyway?
smoky rune
And sales
slim grail
What should have changed otherwise, anyway?
before i answer this, || i wanna confirm something.... zag already knew about his mom right?||
fathom osprey
uh no
fathom osprey
this is a spoiler free channel
slim grail
because ||zag learns abt his mom on like 4-5th run||
fathom osprey
go to the other one
slim grail
ohh fk
fathom osprey
delete fast LMAO
stuck egret
oh
Damn I love this game
I started like 3 days ago and wow I'm amazed
Great job devs
fathom osprey
Yeah Hades is addicting
low trail
And theres so much to discover
fathom osprey
well yeah if you have under 100+ escape
but i think SuperGiant will update this game with much more content so ill be waiting for that
stuck egret
currently 35 escapes
stuck egret
but i think SuperGiant will update this game with much more content so ill be wa...
I wouldnt mind paying for dlc
fathom osprey
nice, 3 days with 35 means you are good at the game
brisk trail
how many hours have you been playing to have escaped that many in 3 days lmao
stuck egret
Really wish you can gift deadalus something too
Steam says I've been playing for 7 hours
burnt breach
i wanted to give the suggestion to add reset to defult while adding heat
on it
fathom osprey
no, Adaman Rail with Zeus Attack + Tidal Wave + Sea Storm is just too broken to be alive
fathom osprey
They nerf the Adaman Rail (Eris Aspect) this patch tho so it might be weaker
stuck egret
awh
fathom osprey
the first 30 run takes about 30-45min for me but now it's just 9-13min with 9 heat
runic agate
because ||zag learns abt his mom on like 4-5th run||
Technically that is just the PLAYER learning about it the way it seemed to me was that that was in the past based on the OTHER the dream sequence were zag has his old job in the admin room
stuck egret
crit rate from artemis + extra arrow shot on target + infinite ammo is really insane
brisk trail
same, i had like 20 attempts only by 15 hours
must've taken a lotta time per run at the start lmao
fathom osprey
crit rate from artemis + extra arrow shot on target + infinite ammo is really in...
that's super weak in the beginning
runic agate
Also
brisk trail
nothing beats zeus attack on eris
fathom osprey
true
runic agate
That guy never said he had 35 WINS
fathom osprey
He said he escape 35 times
runic agate
He said he had 35 apptempts
runic agate
Not wins
brisk trail
oh
runic agate
Smfh
brisk trail
hm
runic agate
An escape is an appemtpt
brisk trail
yeah i was thinking escape = clear
runic agate
No
brisk trail
makes sense
runic agate
LMAO
fathom osprey
well just spam Zeus Attack and Tidal Wave to get Sea Storm then you'll good
stuck egret
Nah havent escaped yet
brisk trail
that's fine
stuck egret
The 2 bosses are a bit of a learning curve
runic agate
Escape=/ win
brisk trail
zeus attack on eris just deletes rooms
runic agate
Win=win
runic agate
I have about 23 wins and I still lose to learnie sometimes
fathom osprey
ah yes
runic agate
@brisk trail no it isnt
stuck egret
wait who's learnie?
brisk trail
you don't get the nickname until far into the game
runic agate
The hydra
brisk trail
...
stuck egret
ooh
fathom osprey
ah i forgot about that
runic agate
The only boss that is a spoiler is the final one
runic agate
Even still
unkempt sleet
You could always call the duo T&A
brisk trail
Same ouro
stuck egret
Oh yeah I finally won from Than its super easy with poseidon's push
runic agate
I die to learnie all the time but I haven't lost to meg since my 3rd run
A have about 120 runs btw
stuck egret
Meg is the hardest one out of the three imo
runic agate
And about 25 wins
fathom osprey
i died to Meg once when im using the sword
stuck egret
I lost at least one life against her somehow lool
molten nymph
alecto's the worst for me
brisk trail
same
stuck egret
The sword needs to have a bit of a higher reach
runic agate
NO
brisk trail
The sword needs to have a bit of a higher reach
play spear
nocturne ginkgo
I think tis is the easiest of the three
stuck egret
Spear's one of my favorites
fathom osprey
i never find any of the three furies sister to be hard, Meg is easy, Tisiphone is easy but takes longer to kill, Alecto takes the most time
brisk trail
three-pronged sword
molten nymph
tis is defo the easiest
runic agate
@nocturne ginkgo agreed
brisk trail
not meg?