How do you beat it in 6 minutes wtf
#h1-discussion
covert zenith
manic bobcat
competitive in game time is from 6 - 9 mins in game.
dark scroll
With 0 heat perhaps.
manic bobcat
How do you beat it in 6 minutes wtf
in game timer
quaint hatch
Nah TD1 makes it quicker
manic bobcat
real time probably ranging from 15 - 20 mins.
covert zenith
Ahh
manic bobcat
With 0 heat perhaps.
yes and no. surprisngly certain heat options help you go faster.
dark scroll
Well a few, but thats still not 20.
covert zenith
25 is my fastest...
pliant sparrow
Is dark foresight or olympian favor better for eris railgun?
dark scroll
A few in the beginning is fine.
You'll have plenty later.
I'm sure I did like 10 or so. I got 50 ambro now.
small bloom
what is ambrosia used for 👀 ? i have like 10
dark scroll
Mostly story stuff, you'll get to it if you play enough.
bronze ravine
it's to progress with characters relationships past a certain point
don't worry too much about it, you can trade some ambrosia for blood just fine
manic bobcat
what is ambrosia used for 👀 ? i have like 10
Ambrosia is fine to trade some early, don't go too ham though. It's used to late game upgrades.
bronze ravine
also, be it diamonds, ambrosia or blood you will all be able to get them at a decent rate from the broker once they are permanently unlocked in his shop
so you can't lock yourself or something
glacial gale
does anyone know who gives the hidden aspect for the shield? it’s the last one i need
dark scroll
can't remember but the gamepedia will have that info
glacial gale
oh ok
quaint wind
also check the pins in #h1-story-discussion
hazy needle
Question for the devs: Any plans to add online co-op? All my friends and I are playing Hades and would love to clear together. I was thinking when you join a friend's Hades game, you would be able to pick which character you wanted to play, Meg, Alecto, Thanatos, Hypnos, Achilles, Skelly, or Tisiphone.
This could open up a whole lot of great interactions and dialogue. For example: playing Alecto and you have to fight Meg and Tisiphone. Playing Tisiphone seeing the Olympian gods reaction when you reply 'Murder' when they gift you a boom. Thanatos talking about how killing with the rail is more fun than killing with this scythe.
To make it a challenge there could be a minimum heat requirement? Or just a base addition to monsters health and/or numbers? Also, maybe the chamber boons that pop up are different between the players. So you would have to agree which ones you both want. And if someone uses Fated Authority, it changes it for the other player as well. This could be for the other players detriment or benefit. Lastly, both players could not pick the same weapon.
quaint wind
they've said in the past they don't want to do co-op. the game doesn't have that design in mind and they don't have any plans to add it
patent topaz
what if the whole team and the other hades voice actors made a live (everyone connecting online of course, not in the same place) sometime between dec 26-30 and asked for questions, phrases to say and read fan comics in-character?
I really just want the voice acting team doing livestreams where they voice fan comics >_>
quaint wind
is this a thing voice actors do? i don't really know anything about voice actors
patent topaz
i know, for example, Huniecast is a thing
it's hosted by Ashley Nichols (an Hazbin Hotel cleanup animator) and Michael Kovach (Angel Dust's voice actor) and there are other usual guests like Edward Bosco (Alastor), Vivziepop and HH crew members in general. And they do stuff, with Ashley cleaning frames in the background.
And most of the time it's Michael and Edward reading submissions in their character's voice
so maybe that's where my wish of hearing the voice actor read comics in their roles came from?
dark moon
The voice actors for No Straight Roads do it too, they also do a bit of streaming the cast play video games in-character, which I find v fun to watch
patent topaz
so we can have a nice safe christmas gathering while leaving space for spending time with families on the actual holiday days
(wait... does "holidays" come from "holy days"? The days where people celebrated god/gods and stayed home???)
And also Yandere chan and Senpai's voice actor played the YS demo, not really in character but you could still recognize their voices
quaint wind
holiday does indeed come from holy day
but that could be an interesting thing for the voice actors to do
patent topaz
i...
i need a moment
pliant sparrow
overwatch did something like this where voice actors read voice lines and stuff
patent topaz
i once saw a video of lucio's voice actor strolling through a con and vibing with the other voice actors
Symmetra's one even shaded him and he whined lol
manic bobcat
so we can have a nice safe christmas gathering while leaving space for spending ...
bruh thanksgiving isn't even here yet
rancid ember
I mean, Thanksgiving is pretty much an early extension of Christmas at this point
Once Halloween is over, Christmas season lol
manic bobcat
Once Halloween is over, Christmas season lol
No, I refuse. You may burst out your Christmas stuff after Thanksgiving, not before. smh my head.
rancid ember
I don't care either way lol. Thanksgiving is for food, and Christmas is for food and gifts. Also Christmas is for Christmas music, especially Carol Of The Bells
manic bobcat
Thanksgiving is for food
This I can get behind. But this year... gatherings will be tough.
patent topaz
i forgot bc i don't have thanksgiving oops
brisk trail
Hey guys just curious if hades will get any new updates after release?
harsh sky
omfg I just wait so much dlc's of this game he is so cool
brisk trail
???
harsh sky
but there are so much to exploit like you cant stop this game here just do dlc's guys like waw
I just want to fight all of olympus and all
really beautiful game
manic bobcat
I just want to fight all of olympus and all
what bite the hands that feed you???
brisk trail
😂
@manic bobcat do you happen to have an answer to my question?
You seem so I thought you might know
active*
manic bobcat
The only confirmed update is cross save on switch and maybe balance patch
brisk trail
I see
manic bobcat
The team stated that they are taking a good break. They have no plan for DLC or what not right now.
manic bobcat
People have been asking for new projects and what not but SGG stays mum. One can hope though :D
hushed rose
jerma
brisk trail
Of course. This game already has so many things to do I dont even know
astral fjord
Given how much work went into Hades, it's not surprising SGG would want to take at least a short break
dark scroll
They too busy spending all the Hades cash.
harsh sky
yes and with GOTY nominations they will have even more
rancid ember
I think if we fought Olympus it would be more likely to be a sequel than a DLC
harsh sky
like they are on a gold mine they can dig by doing dlc's
opaque nexus
Hades 2: Zagreus goes to New York
brisk trail
I'm hoping for an expansive dungeon-crawly DLC where we get to go to Olympus and meet the Olympians.
harsh sky
@rancid ember maybe we will have a sequel
manic bobcat
The next step after the Game Award is getting Zagreus on SSBU
opaque nexus
Logan cunningham is nominated for best gaming performance but he has basically no chance of getting more votes than the voice of the MC of ghost of Tsushima
harsh sky
Yes go put zargeus on smash
brisk trail
"probably"
harsh sky
@rancid ember Yes and giving him powers of the chtonians gods
astral fjord
Couldn't we just nominate Logan Cunningham for each of his characters and then combine the votes after
harsh sky
He just will win best indie
astral fjord
He's done like half the voices in Hades
brisk trail
Hades, Homer, Achilles, Asterius, and Poseidon?
manic bobcat
Title scren: Zagreus escapes to Smash
brisk trail
Couldn't we just nominate Logan Cunningham for each of his characters and then c...
nothing in the book says we can't
opaque nexus
The next step after the Game Award is getting Zagreus on SSBU
Make him broken like a lot of dlcs
Just make him super overpowered and kill the metagame like bayonetta in smash 4
harsh sky
Yes
brisk trail
Yeah but just make them worse in the iteration
manic bobcat
Zag will have a ladder combo
rancid ember
Maybe Hades will become Indie Final Fantasy with all the sequels, except it'll be actual sequels as he rampages around every mythology
harsh sky
It can be possible but he has to have a motivation
just go destroy all the ******** olympians but ALL of them
not just 8
rancid ember
Huh. I would have thought that word would autocensor
opaque nexus
Hades and kid Icarus uprising have the best fictional depictions of hades
manic bobcat
I can't see Zag fighting the Olympians tbh
rancid ember
(It's gone now)
stone pebble
Well Zag isnt really fighting them
astral fjord
I was gonna say, fighting the actual god in a trial under specific circumstances could be really cool
rancid ember
Unless the Olympians found out what was really going on and started harassing Zag
stone pebble
They're just giving him a minor setback
opaque nexus
||charon|| is just the sans boss of hades
manic bobcat
Unless the Olympians found out what was really going on and started harassing Za...
Spoiler for the ending: ||that got resolved almost completely though||
rancid ember
I feel like sans isn't a good comparison. Omega Weapon maybe lol
harsh sky
For me worst part of the game is music
opaque nexus
WHAT
opaque nexus
Are you talking about hades
harsh sky
yup
manic bobcat
I mean they say it's like 19/20 to 20/20
dark scroll
I can't really say I notice the music. Which is good and bad I guess.
manic bobcat
It's good, just not as good as other aspects in their opinion.
dark scroll
Well the singing part music is great ofc but the general one.
rancid ember
Good Riddance is great but the rest of the soundtrack I've heard so far isn't very memorable
manic bobcat
I for one love the music. Out of Tartarus is my jam.
harsh sky
good riddance is really good
opaque nexus
River of flame
manic bobcat
But the narrator in the game is weak compared to Bastion
harsh sky
but really really good
opaque nexus
Probably my favorite non vocal track
dark scroll
Just watched Inside Man (movie, good one) and with the start/credits there was a crappy song. That I notice.
winter harbor
It’s pleasant listening to them in game but I wouldn’t go out of my way to listen
dark scroll
So I guess it ends up in favor of Hades but ah well its 1 part. It's not hurting at least.
With Bastion and Transistor I noticed/cared more about the music.
harsh sky
But like All aspects of the game are just so close too perfection that the musics are just really goods
but not as good as the other aspects
opaque nexus
When I hear the Tartarus theme I think of resetting over and over in speedruns and then I cry
manic bobcat
I would love a boon menu change though
harsh sky
boon ?
manic bobcat
I do think there are better ways to show your boon menu
When you hit select on Controller
opaque nexus
Please make it so I can always see chamber number
manic bobcat
Or B(?) on keyboard
opaque nexus
Please that would be so god damn useful
manic bobcat
And what cin said
dark scroll
I suppose browsing throug them is sometimes annoying with the multiple rows and colums.
harsh sky
But please do new games +
faint moon
I set the bar low because I was pleasantly surprised that a boon list was even provided oops
manic bobcat
But please do new games +
Isn't that implied with the repeated runs and pacts already?
What do you imagine NG+ would have?
faint moon
Please make it so I can always see chamber number
YES! I tried to keep track of the chamber I died in for each run (hi, I'm not a very good player yet RIP) and it took me so long to realize that the game does actually show it somewhere
dark scroll
You can press it while entering/exiting can't you?
opaque nexus
Yeah but still
manic bobcat
LPT: you can check Chamber number on the top right corner by opening boon menu.
harsh sky
@manic bobcat there are lot of possibilities and also I find that except bosses you cant really die
manic bobcat
If you hit that the moment a room loads, the boon menu won't appear, just the chamber
opaque nexus
Ohh boy you haven’t cranked up the pact yet
harsh sky
yeah I talk about before pacts
manic bobcat
<@!162305901892599809> there are lot of possibilities and also I find that excep...
Yeah, I think the Pact is the NG+
opaque nexus
I mean the game is as hard as you make it
Which is good design, makes it more accessible
dark scroll
The only thing we can do is keep buying the game.
Shower them in so much money they have to spend it on making DLC or they drown in it.
astral fjord
There was a recent design discussion vid somewhere on YouTube that talked about choose-your-own difficulty; methods like the Pact are my favorite way of making a game harder
dark scroll
Yes and no. There still needs to be an incentive to pick the pact.
manic bobcat
Honestly I like the ending of Hades. A sequel might be redundant.
But a PREQUEL though
dark scroll
If there would be no blood/etc I'd be like eh w/e for the most part.
manic bobcat
Now we talking
astral fjord
I disagree, I think beating a higher challenge can be its own incentive
dark scroll
Sure, once.
harsh sky
At least we can have some games within the same idea ,,,
dark scroll
But I wouldn't want to keep doing it.
astral fjord
Not really, people keep doing it over and over
dark scroll
Now I do.
Some sure.
There's some puzzle games where the only incentive is to keep playing is getting a high score.
astral fjord
If you don't want to keep doing it over and over of your own accord, then that may not necessarily be something for the game to change
dark scroll
Or you do both and cover all base.s
manic bobcat
There's some puzzle games where the only incentive is to keep playing is getting...
So, like, Tetris?
astral fjord
If a player genuinely doesn't want to beat a game with more challenging settings enabled, that's perfectly fine, and not something they really should be pushed to do
dark scroll
But incentive is always good.
astral fjord
Not always
dark scroll
I disagree. ;p
manic bobcat
not something they really should be pushed to do
But incentive is always good.
Guys, you are literally agreeing with each other
astral fjord
That much is clear
manic bobcat
wth
dark scroll
Thats why I like games which have secondary objective. Or gold/silver/bronze rewards for X time instead of just speedrunning against yourself over and over.
robust sundial
I want that 32 Heat statue but I can't be bothered to tryhard it
astral fjord
Just as an example, if there were a ||Skelly statue|| for beating the game on 63 Heat, it would annoy some completionists who wouldn't be able to unlock it
astral fjord
Which other people though?
dark scroll
As long as there's no gameplay stuff locked behind it nearly everyone is ok with such things.
astral fjord
One doesn't need an intrinsic incentive system to speedrun competitively, for example
manic bobcat
I want that 32 Heat statue but I can't be bothered to tryhard it
Ask in #h1-high-heat-strategies for some tips, you will need to do the leg work, obvs, but they can help you avoid certain pitfalls
it's not that bad. try it 😄
dark scroll
And those are an extremely small part of the total playerbase.
astral fjord
Who is?
dark scroll
That what you just said...
So not something a developer really targets the game around.
astral fjord
Hades caters rather well to speedrunners, I have to say
dark scroll
Thats another thing all together. ;p
astral fjord
And they do so without incentivizing people to speedrun besides that one pact condition
manic bobcat
More than other games, sure. But I highly doubt they balanced based on high heat or speedrun purposes
See: Spread Fire buff and nerf.
dark scroll
I'd say the existence of achievements proves my point plenty. Otherwise no games would ever have them.
manic bobcat
But Amir has been supporting speedrunners morally, so that's great.
astral fjord
Didn't SGG collaborate pretty closely with speedrunners throughout development though?
dark scroll
That said I gotta clean up the kitchen and go nap nap.
manic bobcat
With everyone, really
dark scroll
And then work work.
astral fjord
There's that one video where a couple devs react to a fresh file speedrun and mention it
manic bobcat
Speedrunners happen to be the most dedicated and somewhat vocal part of it/
From my experience, balance takes into account speedruners opinions and suggestions, but to say the game is balanced for that, imo, is not true.
astral fjord
I agree, which is why it so far hasn't been said at all
On that note, though, I do wish there were a fully-implemented way of seeding a run in-game, though
For example, if one wanted to try out a very specific build
But also remove the current weird hidden seeding mechanics in the game rn so that speedrunners don't have to die first before starting their run
pliant sparrow
Any tips for beating hydra quickly with eris rail? I always take a minute on it while theseus/minotaur take like 10 secs lol
manic bobcat
But also remove the current weird hidden seeding mechanics in the game rn so tha...
yup, hate that 😦
manic bobcat
Any tips for beating hydra quickly with eris rail? I always take a minute on it...
try the speedrunning discord?
pliant sparrow
Link?
astral fjord
Any tips for beating hydra quickly with eris rail? I always take a minute on it...
That may be better-suited for #h1-builds-and-combat or #h1-for-new-players , though I'd say try landing the special on the heads. Also, that username is evil.
opaque nexus
Are you trying to speedrun specifically or is this just normal runs @pliant sparrow
pliant sparrow
Speedrun
brisk trail
sorry
manic bobcat
np
ivory wedge
Minor thing I love: when you’re right next to a character or boon and open the codex it’s automatically on that character’s entry so you can check hearts/boons
Its a good touch
astral fjord
Agreed, it's one of those little bits of polish that makes the game feel that much more intuitive
winter harbor
I wanna give nectar to Asterius
astral fjord
Same, I wish I could give onions to Theseus, too
There's gotta be someone one can give onions to
austere jacinth
Euri could use them, probably.
astral fjord
Indeed, she'd probably be one of the very few people who'd be able to convince Achilles to eat them cooked
coral prawn
You know you’re addicted to a game when in 14 days you already have 100+ hours combined ( i first got hades on switch then pc )
And you also know you have no life
candid knoll
Hey y'all, how's Zeus's boons supposed to work? They feel so powerful on Malphon but almost useless on Rail
I thought you would want high attack speed with them
astral fjord
You do, and they're really strong on the Rail's attacks
winter harbor
Funny, I’ve had the most success on rail attack with Zeus
Get the sea storm duo with Poseidon and it’s awesome
astral fjord
As you go through the Underworld though you may want to get other Zeus boons that affect your thunderbolts in order to deal more damage with them
winter harbor
Yeah, like the one that gives jolted for privileged status
astral fjord
Yup, Static Discharge is quite good, and Double Strike is essentially a percentage damage increase to your lightning
candid knoll
Hmm, I guess I just got unlucky with my boon combos
astral fjord
What were your boons, out of curiosity?
candid knoll
Zeus attack, Zeus Special, Aphrodite dash, Zeus Electric bounce
I don't remember all the rest
quiet gull
You only want zeus on attack with rail
More bounces for lightning is effectively useless, cause the orbs cant hit the same enemy twice and you're almost never facing 8+ enemies packed closely together
rose nexus
You only want zeus on attack with rail
I use Zeus on everything tbh
raven lava
nimble surge
i don't see what's so rouge-like about it, you don't really do any sneaking around or stealth. still a good game though
candid knoll
Artemis call, yay or nay?
maiden edge
I am so unbelievably bad at this game and yet I love it so much. :c
flat vapor
it’s okay, free damage
good panic button since it has 5 calls (and calls give i frames)
bright shuttle
Her crit boost is magnificent
winter harbor
She can just delete an entire boss phase
cinder lichen
People when they see Aphrodite first time: O-oh. Hey-hello...
People when they see Aphrodite after some runs: Heck yes! Gimme those stats!
winter harbor
Always pick her first in god trials too because of that tracking arrow
And it stuns you for so long
astral fjord
Full Artemis call + Chthonic Companion can chew through most of a boss on their own when timed right
floral hound
Aphro is probably my least favorite god to face in the trials
It's so easy to lose track of the heart
cinder lichen
I need to get the hang of her Trial. Demeter on the other hand...
broken marsh
what does the bag with the skull on it do?
brisk trail
In Charon's shop?
carmine ravine
ps, u can deflect the heart
pliant sparrow
charons shop?
pliant sparrow
no im saying it'll lead to charon shop
broken marsh
ohhh
pliant sparrow
no matter the region
astral fjord
If you're inside Charon's shop and see a bag with a skull behind him...
astral fjord
Well, give the bag a try, just make sure you're not desperate to succeed on that run
Indeed! Soon enough though you'll find yourself looking back on what's giving you trouble and laugh
astral fjord
You get stronger, but the game also has a really smooth learning+mastery curve
outer pecan
My max is 12
winter harbor
Yeah, I thought god mode wouldn’t be that helpful to me if all I needed to do was dodge
astral fjord
The main bosses spawn in the following numbered chambers:
- Megaera: Chamber 14
- Bone Hydra: Chamber 24
- Theseus and Asterius: Chamber 36
- Final Boss: Varies
cinder lichen
Huh. Always thought it’d be an average-based boss spawn
astral fjord
Some minibosses spawn randomly in chambers in-between, but the number of chambers per region is fixed, which means the region bosses spawn at the same intervals
cinder lichen
Minibosses make sense, yeah.
winter harbor
The sneak miniboss is so annoying
astral fjord
It's the status clear on each teleport that irritates me
broken marsh
how do i check if i have a death defiance left?
flat vapor
on top of your hp bar, you have symbols that represent dds
if that symbol is just an empty circle, you've already used up a dd
outer pecan
||meg|| just beat my ass
brisk trail
No.
broken marsh
||are there more fountains other than the one where you find the dog food?||
brisk trail
These should be either spoilered or in #h1-story-discussion
brisk trail
||No, once you get the Satyr Sack there's no more big heal drops before the final boss.||
broken marsh
ah man
distant peak
Are you using defiance?
death/stubborn?
if stubborn, just suicide 😄
Also, I'm new here. Nice to meet you all
distant peak
What was your build?
cinder lichen
Always feels bad when you're looking at yourself losing a DD and you notice the particles that hadn't even touched you
Bloody big head
I hate shockwave damage so much right now
distant peak
Trying my first EM4 with zeus shield, wish me luck
cinder lichen
Oo
carmine ravine
ez em4: zeus/aphro duo with heroic poseidon call
sudden dock
I'm pulling hard for Hades at the Geoff Keighley Awards!
foggy isle
I noticed that if you get too far in one of your first runs the dialogue with the people at home will be off in reference to what you have and haven't achieved, like you might have to die another 3-4 times for the characters to catch up with your latest achievements
runic agate
red tiger
oh my god
I will never remember to not curse in this server
im not typing that again
oh wait I can ctrl+z
I want to give laura bailey the voice acting award because I love her in critical roll, because she is in fact a great voice actress, and because she deserves it from the bullpoop death threats she received
also half-life alyx innovative as hell, moreso than hades. I mean, it's a half-life game for crying out loud of course its one of the most innovative of all time
faint flint
how do you attach images?
manic bobcat
how do you attach images?
upload to imgur and post links here
rancid ember
I wonder if anyone's ever walked into a room and every single urn is a money urn
I've never seen more than... 3? in a room
astral swift
Isn't it a 15% chance?
daring spruce
I'm pretty bad at the game, this is my first rogue like I have ever seriously tried, but I'm having a ton of fun 😄
pallid cloud
Hello everyone. I’m interested in grabbing one of the new m1 macbooks and was wondering if Hades will play on it. I’m very interested in this game.
rancid ember
Blah. Runs where I don't even beat the hydra make me feel bad. Why can't I at least consistently reach Elysium? :<
tawny ridge
Has supergiant said anything about the Thanatos/Hypnos dialogue being patched?
im tearing my hair out over it
seems like the questline is set to be the lowest priority of Thanatos' dialogue
astral swift
Are you sure it isn't just rng? I have trouble with those two as well 
tawny ridge
Maybe. But its starting to look like I'm going to have to exhaust all of Thanatos' dialogue in his hallway before he starts talking to hypno
its super annoying because he only shows up when you find him in the run
and this is the last thing I have to unlock so I'm literally just playing to find thanatos it sucks
astral swift
Ah there's also a chance you run into him and he doesn't show up in the house, or at least it happened to me on more than one occasion
I hope he shows up for you soon
Funnily enough I was about to wonder if I had exhausted the pool of Hypnos dialogue because I rarely get any exclamation points from hin now
tawny ridge
I have no more exclamation points form any characters 😔
then i finally find thanatos and hes just like "how you holding up? ok later" on his stupid balcony
the completionist in me is crying
astral swift
I feel that 
although I'm still only ?midgame or so
sudden dock
There is no shame in switching to God Mode, scrubs...
rancid ember
I want to see how much I can achieve (without losing patience) on not-God Mode first before I try God Mode, tbh
But then, by the time I'm losing patience I may not want to try God Mode lol
so...
I really really want to at least form bonds with every character though
Which is already a huge task XD
Even if I don't go as far as maxing every weapon and stuff
astral swift
It takes a good while to form bonds
tawny ridge
godmode isnt going to help thanatos appear more
they shouldnt lock questlines behind random encounters its so annoying
ive seen him once in 10 runs
rancid ember
It may help you clear faster though?
Which reduces the amount of time it takes to get all those dialogues
faint flint
do we have a meme channel to post hades memes?
rancid ember
uh. #off-topic-discussion ? idk
flat vapor
any sgg-related meme can be posted in #fan-works
flat vapor
there's a bunch in the pins too!
rancid ember
Oh, that's good to know
faint flint
it's like a 10+ image dump
rancid ember
You could always make an imgur gallery
God I hate those blue skeletons
They just start swiping at me and for some reason I can't seem to dash away???
It's like I'm stunlocked for like 30 damage asdf
brisk trail
Dash behind them.
quiet gull
They just start swiping at me and for some reason I can't seem to dash away???
You gotta let go of the attack button first
distant peak
Hyrule Warriors comes out tomorrow but I don't even care anymore because of Hades
sharp fossil
mood lol
every now and then i accidentally buy a new game and then proceed to just keep playing hades instead of downloading it
manic bobcat
yeah. funny how that works
i have like 150 games on Steam
mainly play like 5 of them
distant peak
I usually "beat" a game before I move on to the next one, but I still have Spinch and AVGN 2 to finish... Instead I've just accepted I'm a Hades junkie for a while
faint flint
only one game really challenges my current playtime for hades
and thats Slay the Spire
distant peak
I bought Dante's Inferno to reread while I'm at work 😄
rancid ember
I hope I can stick with being a Hades junkie for a good long while, myself x3 Get my money's worth out of the game. Not that it would be a terrible investment with even just what I've gotten so far. I don't think I'd even have to reach the true end in order to make the $20 I spent worth it
rancid ember
It was on sale. Without the sale it was $25
distant peak
That's a steal
rancid ember
Actually tbh it's already a better investment than what I would have spent the $20 otherwise xD
Which would have been like, 1-2 meals out
A good game is a remarkably efficient investment for what you get, enjoyment-wise
distant peak
I've got 90 hours in but I'm still pretty noobish... trying to get better at the gloves and rail, which I suck at
rancid ember
It says my playtime is 106 hours but I doubt a third of that is actual playtime >>;
brisk trail
Excellent.
distant peak
@brisk trail lmao at your name
rancid ember
Apparently it counts when the game is running in the background
brisk trail
i wanna switch to kb and mouse but im just so used to playing with a controller
rancid ember
I've had like. Probably less than 70 escape attempt so far, so
brisk trail
i think im on like run 33 and ive managed to get to hades twice now
rancid ember
I'm annoyed with kb and mouse tbh but I've been too lazy to finagle with making my controller work
brisk trail
also how tf do i get more titans blood
brisk trail
aim assist off right?
what remappings do you suggest
Rail's my favorite weapon and while trying to hit with shots can be just a little annoying at times (gotta aim at enemy feet, which can get screwy with enemies that float), but it's way better for aiming the Special.
i found it kinda clunky
Attack and Special on M1 and M2.
sharp fossil
main thing to remap is special; Q is a terrible place for it
rancid ember
You get more Titan's blood by trading other items for it, or getting bounties (which you get more of at higher heat)
brisk trail
main thing to remap is special; Q is a terrible place for it
yeah that makes sense, i dont want to have to move my fingers off move keys
probably spacebar would be a better remap so i can just my thumb
sharp fossil
i’ve also moved call and reload for similar reasons
brisk trail
or like c or something
rancid ember
v :D
brisk trail
yeah
distant peak
I just roll my face across the keyboard and hope special procs
rancid ember
which I should map
brisk trail
or i can use side mouse buttons too
sharp fossil
i’ve put them on mouse buttons (except call, which is shift)
if you have mouse buttons, i’d defs recommend using them
brisk trail
Call on Shift, Cast on M3, Reload on M4.
sharp fossil
i actually have the default for cast, but a lot of people do change that as well yeah
brisk trail
yeah i was thinking of something like that
Summon is Q, I think, only time I take my left hand off WASD.
do you use dash to cursor or dash in the direction you're facing
outer pecan
I can't beat meg damn it
outer pecan
She just keeps beating my ass lol
sharp fossil
dash to cursor is cursed imo lol
brisk trail
@outer pecan it takes time! dont worry just learn the patterns
flat vapor
guess i must be a cursed player 😔
tawny ridge
in the time its taken me to get 2 irrelevant Thanatos dialogues I've found all 3 chaos fish.
brisk trail
im guessing this is like your first 10 runs?
tawny ridge
F THANATOS
brisk trail
so for titans blood
I used dash-to-cursor in Hyper Light Drifter.
you get the blood for beating the first and final boss with each weapon right
and then after that heat/trade related?
it makes sense i never get any since i havent unlocked heat yet
sharp fossil
idk maybe i am cursed, but there’s defiantly some kind of curse involved when i use dash to cursor lol
brisk trail
the hand speed lmao
rancid ember
I do attack to cursor but not dash to cursor
I feel like having both would not be great
flat vapor
you learn to move your hands fast
rose nexus
I'm annoyed with kb and mouse tbh but I've been too lazy to finagle with making ...
do u need help ?
brisk trail
I have both attack to cursor and dash to cursor, also because of HLD lol
sharp fossil
oh yeah i use attack to cursor for sure
flat vapor
attack and dash to cursor on bow is an experience, but i'm way too used to it now to switch
rancid ember
do u need help ?
Hm? Help with controller, or with keyboard? idk. Mostly I've just noticed that when I'm trying to alternate between attacks I seem to end up moving in random directions, which isn't always helpful. That may not really be that much a MKB problem I guess
rancid ember
So where does Left go? XD
flat vapor
when i don't have a mouse i bind attack/cast to left and right arrow
it's like the movement of kbm with the aiming of controller! the worst of both worlds
pliant sparrow
does railgun automatically reload when
-ur clip is empty
-u enter a new room
cuz ive noticed some weird interactions with it im not sure
sometimes it reloads, other times im shooting blanks
robust scaffold
manic bobcat
when your clip is empty you need to release the attack and press it again
otherwise you will shoot blanks
rose nexus
i googled dusa, hades and the second option was take back ambrosia and now i cant stop laughing
pliant sparrow
different weapons, higher heat
hallow dune
What is heat? Is that difficulty?
pliant sparrow
can i click fast enough instead of holding down attack to still get same result for railgun?
yah its difficullty modifiers that unlock when u beat hades first time
hallow dune
So you get more rewards the higher the heat?
manic bobcat
Final Boss is spoiler
manic bobcat
So you get more rewards the higher the heat?
yes, kinda.
hallow dune
Wdym kinda
manic bobcat
it makes sense if you see the pact for the first time.
you get rewards for each difficulty level, up to a certain amount
pliant sparrow
rewards reset per heat level tier jump
oblique ivy
i love it when im at the final boss and tight deadline is slowly killing me and he just keeps going invincible and doing the ||shoot lasers literally everywhere|| attack
hallow dune
Just get athena deflects and button mash xd
manic bobcat
LPT: Dash on top of the final boss to avoid the ||omni laser||
You are safe there while you can keep hitting the final boss
north pier
gentle reminder that hades is up for like a trillion awards in the game awards and you YES YOU can vote for it https://thegameawards.com/
manic bobcat
Vote for fun. But your vote mean less than you would think.
outer pecan
is there like a random boss mode?
manic bobcat
no
outer pecan
oh ok
manic bobcat
yee
north pier
Vote for fun. But your vote mean less than you would think.
in what way
manic bobcat
The awards are mostly decided by a panel (90%), the rest 10% is popular vote.
And I do like it, because if it's 100% popular vote, indie games will never see the light of day.
flat vapor
ranked popular vote when
manic bobcat
Hey now, don't be rational
Single issue voting only please
What do you think this is, a democracy?
flat vapor
obviously, we should establish an electoral college for the gamer awards
we don't vote for the game, we vote for the game for other, more important people to vote on
hallow dune
Can I mail in my hades vote?
manic bobcat
yes, but it will be delayed and people will argue that it shouldn't be counted.
north pier
*Delayed by the same people that don't think it should be counted
flat vapor
the previous goty dev team makes a huge stink about the gamer awards being rigged
pliant sparrow
but the mail votes will count if its in support of their games
ofc because those are obv the unrigged ones
manic bobcat
Oscar is also kinda rigged but people (me) still eat it up.
The Game Award is for fun, really. Just a good talking point.
distant peak
Voted until I got to the esports thing because I'm a boomer and don't know any of them
manic bobcat
Well I only follow the LoL scene so I voted LoL stuff down ballot 😄
distant peak
I actually do watch retro speedruns on twitch so I'm not totally a boomer... getting there, though
Just finished 1 heat with gloves
Pretty good for me lol
rancid ember
I wonder if Hades gets GOTY if they're obligated to make a GOTY edition with DLC
daring spruce
Is controller recommended?
rancid ember
like all the Elder Scrolls games
daring spruce
Or am I good to go with m+kb
manic bobcat
MKB is just fine. Though most people here seem to enjoy controller
pliant sparrow
wait wrong reply
pliant sparrow
Well I only follow the LoL scene so I voted LoL stuff down ballot 😄
lul first day i played hades i thought all the weapons played so much like league champs
like i was kiting and everything with shield and bow
daring spruce
Thanks @manic bobcat
pliant sparrow
since im an adc main
brisk trail
Not to downplay those tga nominations but the game awards are compromised and a hack show
... Okay i totally mean to downplay them and it is hilarious to do so
agile cargo
lad
north pier
Imagine getting hit by something ||https://i.imgur.com/ovDu6xk.png||
if I don't win now it might be embarassing
distant peak
haha, nice
I'm trying to figure out which aspect to start putting blood into now
I've maxed out zag and nemesis on sword, hades on spear, zeus on shield, chiron on bow, talos on fist, and eris on rail
north pier
||arthur|| is quite fun
I'm also a zweihander player on dark souls so it just makes sense
distant peak
Zeus shield is my best, which is weird because people on reddit seem to dislike it
north pier
what's it do again
distant peak
It's the slow spinny throw
That you recall manually
I'll try hidden sword or chaos shield
manic bobcat
people on reddit seem to dislike it
don't trust people on Reddit for gameplay advice tbh
distant peak
or anything in general 😛
manic bobcat
it's a good opinion source
narrow hemlock
that is true
ive tried to lurk around the hades subreddit but the vibe is a bit offputting there sometimes
mostly the users tho not the mods, jerds is a cool dude
manic bobcat
yeah.
wide spoke
can boon conversations have any effect on room generation? because if not this was a big stroke of luck
manic bobcat
I don't think so?
wide spoke
i was limping through tartarus on one of my attempts at a 32 heat run, i get an aphrodite boon and she says "you don't look too hot - don't worry, i can pull some strings"
next room was a centaur heart in a fountain
wide spoke
i assume that was it but what a coincidence the room generation was
manic bobcat
The strings Aphrodite mentioned was likely the boons she gave you themselves
narrow hemlock
oh yeah all of the gods/boss have dialogue specifically for when you are at low health
distant peak
Do you do every heat before 32 when you go for a 32 heat run or do you skip the rewards
manic bobcat
I jumped from 5 to 32.
distant peak
You can always go back to previous heats and get those rewards right?
manic bobcat
yeah. someone went from 1 to 41 lol
distant peak
Nice
quiet gull
Bounties stop at 20
distant peak
ohhh, then you have to rely on buying them?
quiet gull
The only thing you need more of is TB, and at that point you can probably trade your excess Ambrosia for it
narrow hemlock
the rewards just continue on incrementally, the only thing that changes is the amount of heat you take on.
manic bobcat
if you clear max bounty for every weapon you should have more than enough to max out upgrades
narrow hemlock
so you can either go up heat ranks one by one, or pick a range and stay there
manic bobcat
unless you somehow squandered it all at the broker
quiet gull
if you clear max bounty for every weapon you should have more than enough to max...
Not for weapons, no
manic bobcat
well from stuff like buying from styx shops, quest, etc.
if you do 6x20 = 120 runs, yeah, you should have enough for everything.
quiet gull
21 runs, actually. Zero heat is still a heat level
manic bobcat
true
distant peak
I have traded a bunch of ambrosia for TB, I should stop
north pier
I died to ||em4 and i'm not happy about it||
brisk trail
So when are those cross saves coming
narrow hemlock
when they're ready
craggy tangle
I just heard Orpheus sing for the first time and listened to the whole song. I think it was called "Don't Turn Back". Supergiant always finds the best singers and best voice actors and it makes such a difference to the atmosphere.
narrow hemlock
ambrosia is for later affinity + companions
distant peak
cool, thanks
carmine ravine
ambrosia is for the useless snakehead
hot surge
I wanna see some art of either ||Zagreus sitting on Eurydice's bed and listening to her sing as he noms|| and/or ||Orpheus and Eurydice singing together and Hades being able to hear it and reminiscing about Persephone|| so bad
distant peak
@north pier ||arthur|| is fun, thanks
north pier
@distant peak it's my favorite
hot surge
and ||Persephone|| already solved if u finish the game
I just mean reminiscing, like thinking back on memories, not yearning
hasty mica
So when are those cross saves coming
I literally joined just to ask this question. Back near the end of October I asked on Twitter if they were still on track for late October, and they said no, maybe early November
brisk trail
So cross saves, like the vgas, are a meme
rancid ember
if you clear max bounty for every weapon you should have more than enough to max...
...I was going to point out what the wiki says but tbh I'm not sure if the wiki is accurate? It says you get 252 bounties across the 21 runs but that seems... very wrong lol unless final boss gives titan blood?
agile cargo
is skelly ||companion|| good
rancid ember
Even then it says you need 11 more just for weapon upgrades, not including theme and resource director stuff
agile cargo
also yeah redacted gives titan blood
rancid ember
That's good to know!
agile cargo
yee
hot surge
I was expecting Redacted to just give you infinite resources lol
not really though but it'd be nice
rose nexus
I was expecting Redacted to just give you infinite resources lol
not really thou...
work for the coin
hot surge
I know but
I'm tired and I can't pull an all-nighter grinding to 100% the game
hearty sierra
You don't have to do it all in one go!
You could min-max by going Rail + Zeus and speedrunning through everything
Or you could pick whichever weapon has dark thirst and just play on zero heat and go for poseidon's bounty boons
upper carbon
daring spruce
Whatds the difference between Direct X Vulkan and 32bits? does someone know
hearty sierra
Yah like wraith said go for coins as well to buy from Styx Coinsink
daring spruce
So its my pc is alright I just pick directx? better fps and all that?
hearty sierra
Also definitely go do the ||Charon fight||
manic bobcat
Why don't you turn on FPS counter and play it?
If your computer is decent, chances are it won't matter which one you pick.
hearty sierra
Yeah I play on HP Pavilion which is practically a glorified tablet
But it runs fine
manic bobcat
Although Pyre somehow runs terribly on my more powerful desktop while spitting 60fps easy on my 6 yo laptop
Who knows.
north pier
||I already got the fish dialogue but the fish is taunting him again- now even hades has a taste of eternal suffering https://i.imgur.com/j9lMWMC.png||
north pier
i'm gonna lose this fight ||but at least the fish already won||
hearty sierra
||Greece fish|| is best motivator
north pier
It didn't help
hot surge
The power of ||Greek Fish|| compels you
hot surge
Also I love how your PFP is Apron Squirt
hearty sierra
Oof feelsbadman
north pier
bastion is my favorite game of all time so yeah it's a no brainer
that end credits squirt is like my BOY
hot surge
I want a plushie of da Squirt that has a little apron you can put on it
And I wanna name him Sir Reginald von Fluffington Gasfella IV
manic bobcat
Too bad Squirts are replaced with the terrors that are Numbskulls.
hot surge
Numbskulls are cute too you (Pardon my ||Theseus||) fiend!
hot surge
And y'know what?
So are all the demons in DOOM Eternal and half of them are heccin' adorable
hot surge
Squirts, Cells/BadCells, and Numbskulls are all the cutest widdwe boiz ever and I will fight you on that
rancid ember
Not as cute as Zagreus. But maybe in a completely different sense lol
rapid forum
dusa ftw 
rapid forum
nah
hot surge
Do you have E V I D E N C E ?
north pier
He clearly just wants to hang with his bro theseus, he doesn't have any inclination to be your waifu
dusa is the best waifu because she turns down your ass and returns like a billion ambrosia
she's the best
i love dusa
rancid ember
Asterius would be a fantastic waifu says the furry
winter harbor
I mean, theseus rescued him from Tartarus, I would be grateful under those circumstances
hot surge
Theseus can jump into the Phlegethon river for all I care, I just want my sweet kinda-dumb bull-man
And my sleepy boi
north pier
theseus is all talk and a badge, but that doesn't make him a bad person
he's just wildly insecure
manic bobcat
I thought Hypnos was a girl ngl
rapid forum
lol
hot surge
Nono, I get that and all
His archetype is just obnoxious
north pier
hypnos is ambiguous
winter harbor
I like the theory that he’s just playing a heel in the arena
To entertain the shades
north pier
that would be cute
hot surge
ANYWAY
ASTERIUS AND HYPNOS ARE BEST GIRLS DON'T @ ME
winter harbor
But Asterius is all like, he’s sincere
hot surge
Asterius: exists
Me: I NEED A HIMBO-
north pier
doesn't even accept help from the gods, no he's just like "aight, i'm a bad bull and you ain't got nothing on me"
rancid ember
I wonder if I shouldn't be taking every effort to skip minibosses in Elysium to avoid Asterius. Given dialogue. And also maybe if I get more practice against Asterius I'll be better able to handle champions fight
winter harbor
Minibosses have better rewards anyway
manic bobcat
Dude is like I probably can't kill you but I'll soften you up for whatever up there that will.
winter harbor
Plus, like you said, practice
manic bobcat
Dude is a real one.
north pier
honestly EM3 is so much easier than the standard fight, theseus turns into a non-issue
rapid forum
||I like Asterius's comment when you do EM3. "This is your doing? I don't like it."||
narrow hemlock
manic bobcat
Including last biome
hot surge
I need a himbo
I need a himbo 'til the end of the night
He's gotta be strong
And he's gotta be fast
And he's gotta be dumb and polite
north pier
Real talk, always pick Miniboss over normal rooms
wait, why
rapid forum
Real talk, always pick Miniboss over normal rooms
Screw the dusa head
winter harbor
I’ve defeated them enough times that ||Theseus has started to doubt their friendship because zag called them Asterius and other guy||
manic bobcat
Better rewards. You know what to expect.
winter harbor
The poison is the real killer in the last biome
rancid ember
honestly so far my least favorite miniboss (aside from maybe Asterius) is the witches
manic bobcat
And with enough experience, and companion, you cam chew through minibosses
rancid ember
Doomstone is also annoying af
winter harbor
Yeah, for witches you want divine dash
north pier
Better rewards. You know what to expect.
I suppose yeah, but getting offered the miniboss is frequently the only choice
or is the obvious choice
winter harbor
I think wretched sneak is annoying
rapid forum
middle management witches is a tad bit easier
hot surge
I NEED A HIMBO
I NEED A HIMBO 'TIL THE MORNIN' LIGHT
HE'S GOTTA BE DUMB
AND HE'S GOTTA BE SWEET
SUPPORTIVE, RESPECTFUL AND KIND
winter harbor
Teleport makes it harder to go fast for plume
north pier
i'm a music duder so i understand the sneak's timing
manic bobcat
I mean also in Styx, minibosses are faster and safer
rapid forum
screw the big satyr
rancid ember
Sneak seems kind of weak, yes
manic bobcat
Maybe not the 🐁
north pier
the big satyr is ALSO WEAK
narrow hemlock
sneak likes to spawn when i'm running rama and i've had enough
manic bobcat
The trick for sneak is not to chase it
north pier
if you're good at dashing then sneak is the easiest miniboss by far
manic bobcat
I like butterfly ball
rapid forum
butterfly ball is not bad
manic bobcat
You can clear the encounter in 10s easy
manic bobcat
The Big Bother in Styx is also quite easy
rapid forum
which one is big brother?
winter harbor
Tiny vermin is the most difficult boss in the game
north pier
Real talk time: I used to whine and complain constantly about one of the satyr rooms- the one with two blade traps that run the entire length of the room, and the two poison floors on either side of the room- you have a safe zone that looks like a crescent. I used to say that this room was the only bad room in the game, but I changed my mind. That room is actually fine, I was just utterly tilted constantly by the mechanics
tiny vermin is EASY
carmine ravine
Tiny vermin is the most difficult boss in the game
u mean borrow
rapid forum
you just need to stay clear from biting range
plain gyro
Is this game going to be on another platform?Guys?
manic bobcat
tiny vermin is EASY
Depends on your Pact set up. FO2 Vermin can be hard.
north pier
you just need to hold excalibur
and tiny vermin is easy
just slow him down 40% lol
EASY
manic bobcat
Is this game going to be on another platform?Guys?
No one knows. But no plan for other platform is confirmed.
plain gyro
Damn...
manic bobcat
My guess is that they are waiting for next gen consoles anyhow
carmine ravine
plan for dlc is more likely than another port tbh
north pier
It's on switch already right? What other platform could you want
plain gyro
the ps5 was relased anyway
narrow hemlock
the other games got additional platform releases months after launch so just keep an eye out
plain gyro
Thanks the suggestion
manic bobcat
Yeah while nothing is confirmed, I highly doubt Hades is just for PC and Switch
narrow hemlock
i would at the very least expect to see a playstation port eventually
north pier
I mean pretty much any PC can run it, and everyone has a switch
manic bobcat
Me no Switch
plain gyro
So Hades was already released on Switch,right？
north pier
maybe a ps5 and series x port eventually
manic bobcat
Me still GBA from childhood
north pier
yep it's on switch
narrow hemlock
thats not the point lol. theres nothing wrong with releasing on additional platforms
plain gyro
cool.
north pier
well it costs a ton of money to port to other platforms
manic bobcat
I want a Switch but it's like 5 yo lol
narrow hemlock
yes anyone with a basic understanding of how porting works knows that
north pier
well the switch has games, that's kinda the whole point
plain gyro
If the switch can run this game smoothly, I think phones also can run perfectly.
narrow hemlock
a lot of their audience was pc/playstation, im sure they will look into ps4/ps5 later when possible
manic bobcat
yes anyone with a basic understanding of how porting works knows that
Don't you just put the codes through a macro and translate it to Switch?
north pier
porting to android is so far outside the scope of this studio lol
manic bobcat
Should be easy
narrow hemlock
idk it rubs me the wrong way to say things like "its already on pc/switch what more do you need" bc not everyone uses those.
narrow hemlock
and not everyone wants to?
distant peak
That was a fun bow build
plain gyro
We all know everyone got the mobile phone
north pier
it's an equally low bar to purchase an xbox or playstation
manic bobcat
Sure, but it's a pretty low bar to buy a switch
Not for me lmao
Most of my friends don't own a Switch
narrow hemlock
people ask supergiant about additional platforms every time they tweet, and have been pretty much since the game first went live
manic bobcat
I don't think that's a reasonable assumption
north pier
If someone wants to play this game, they need to either have a 1. Switch (300 bucks) or a 2. computer that can run basic games (600 bucks)
manic bobcat
PS5 is up to 1000 USD right now
Don't buy from scalpers.
north pier
IDK it's a pretty low bar
manic bobcat
It's not lmao.
plain gyro
I wont. one month after, the price will drop down like rocket
People are so crazy about the PS5
north pier
how is 300 bucks a high bar?
like in what world
if you're wanting to play games, 300 bucks is an exceptional bar
plain gyro
Switch is the old generation, dont buy it now
narrow hemlock
its not unreasonable for the playstation folks to get a port, considering each of the previous games were available for them. theres been no xbox since bastion though
plain gyro
The new switch will realeasd soon
manic bobcat
You are making the wrong assumptions.
narrow hemlock
bro with all due respect why are you being so defensive over this
manic bobcat
Ima get on a laptop so I can type
plain gyro
hahaha
manic bobcat
This argument is dumb xD
north pier
I don't even know what this argument is anymore
narrow hemlock
kinda, its banking off a lot of assumptions more than anything
narrow hemlock
let go of it into the wind, its gone now :)
plain gyro
My purpose is to let the devs know , a part people like me do want to play this game with the mobiles
XD
north pier
i'm just trying to say that playing hades economically couldn't be easier
manic bobcat
Most of the time, people don't buy a console because they want a game. It happens, but it's not the norm.
So, people won't buy a laptop or Switch just to play Hades
plain gyro
Thats true
valid citrus
Playing hades on a phone?
manic bobcat
So, if you want better outreach
north pier
mobile is basically never gonna happen
valid citrus
That sounds terrible
winter harbor
How would you map the controls ?
manic bobcat
you make it available on more platforms ala PS5 and Xbox Series
plain gyro
If is possible to play hades on the switch, it should be possible on the phones
rapid forum
yea but
valid citrus
Who's gonna pay for your doctor when your fingers fall off
north pier
sure but "making it available on more platforms" is expensive and taxing on the dev team
manic bobcat
How would you map the controls ?
Buy a bluetooth controller and pair it with your phone
rapid forum
switch already have some kind of control similar to gamepads
valid citrus
I think having a mobile game that can only be played with additional external hardware is kinda dumb
rancid ember
Switch is the old generation, dont buy it now
What... kind of logic is this? O.o
Only current-gen games are worth playing? In what world?
rapid forum
how much of a cluster-f hades can be on higher heats, having a button prompt on your screen can be a distraction
manic bobcat
sure but "making it available on more platforms" is expensive and taxing on the ...
The economics of that is for the devs to figure out. But I believe that if they ported Bastion to almost everyplatform, inclduing iOS, porting Hades isn't that big a hassle.
north pier
Guys, porting to other platforms isn't some copy-paste job, it takes legitimate effort to translate the game to other platforms
narrow hemlock
we know that
manic bobcat
I think we are disagree on the cost-benefits analysis.
rancid ember
There's a reason that so many games are released on multiple platforms
valid citrus
Can we instead disagree on the usability analysis?
north pier
Right, so quit acting like it's some non-sequitur to say "maybe they won't port it to other platforms"
manic bobcat
With the recent success, let's just say I have high hopes that Hades will do well on more platforms.
rancid ember
It's profitable
rancid ember
Right, so quit acting like it's some non-sequitur to say "maybe they won't port ...
No one's saying that? lol
Like the option of them not porting it hasn't gone unacknowledged
north pier
No one's saying that? lol
Literally everyone is saying that
rancid ember
Literally everyone is saying that
No, they're disagreeing with your assertion that there's no reason to port it
narrow hemlock
yes
north pier
No, they're disagreeing with your assertion that there's no reason to port it
They're saying "of course they'll port it, they like money" but completely ignoring the fact that it costs money to port it
manic bobcat
I think having a mobile game that can only be played with additional external ha...
Yeah, but still, better than touch screen
plain gyro
The truth is the mobile games come to more important compare to other platforms.
narrow hemlock
They're saying "of course they'll port it, they like money" but completely ignor...
??? we have acknowledged this??
manic bobcat
completely ignoring the fact that it costs money to port it
when I said putting the code through a macro and translate to Switch, that's sarcasm
valid citrus
But that's not the point... There is no reason to try enter a market and then excluding like 99% of the possible users with hardware restrictions
If you can't make a game work with the platforms native control scheme, don't do it
north pier
??? we have acknowledged this??
by making assumptions about how it costs a fraction to port something compared to the profits therein- just because it's been acknowledged doesn't mean it's sound
manic bobcat
I mean Hades works with basically any standard controller
rancid ember
The truth is the mobile games come to more important compare to other platforms.
I. What?
I have no idea why anyone would want to make mobile gaming their primary game platform
Doing like, literally anything on a phone is so clunky and annoying. There's so much more you can do so much more easily on a computer
narrow hemlock
you're still basing your own argument off a lot of assumptions of information you arent privy to though
manic bobcat
Although how does Genshin Impact do it?
distant peak
Phone would be nice with like a switch pro/ps4 controller connected to it with bluetooth
but even then I prefer PC/Switch 😛
rancid ember
Although how does Genshin Impact do it?
Genshin Impact makes ridiculous profits in exactly the same manner a casino does. There were horror stories about people spending $5k+ in short succession within the first month.
They can easily manage ports lol
plain gyro
Yep, I agree with you. But sometimes we do not have enough time to sit in front of the computers.
narrow hemlock
genshin is a gacha game in a pretty package lol
north pier
Genshin impact is literally a slot machine veiled in a BOTW clone
valid citrus
Genshin is a mobile game and has super basic controls
manic bobcat
like from what i saw Genshin seems action focused, how did they set up control scheme on mobile
rancid ember
I started playing Genshin Impact, liked it even though I wanted nothing to do with the gacha, then it got ridiculously grindy and I dropped it
valid citrus
porting from mobile is no issue controlling wise
rancid ember
Which is a shame because all the exploration was really good
winter harbor
I’m pretty it’s just turn based combat
valid citrus
Cause you have like 2 slow inputs
brisk trail
genshin lost me after like 2 hours
north pier
I think we can all agree that dusa is best girl
valid citrus
Yes
rancid ember
Dusa is absolutely best girl
manic bobcat
Interesting how you spelled Artemis.
brisk trail
I was thinking id rather be playing nier the whole time
north pier
artemis gets to be second best girl
narrow hemlock
distant peak
Artemis got big ol' critties
rancid ember
Though if we weren't talking only Hades... there's a couple BioWare girls that are pretty good >.> I legit have a crush on Merrill and I'm like 99% gay
bleak crag
all the girls sucks in hades except for chaos
valid citrus
Artemis is the girl you go out with to have some drinks and a fun time, but in the end you'll always come home to dusa
winter harbor
Chaos isn’t a girl
brisk trail
chaos is everything, aren't they?
north pier
chaos is what it is
bleak crag
wtf
north pier
:)
winter harbor
Chaos is every gender and no gender
valid citrus
@manic bobcat genshin looks action focused but looks are deceiving it actually is quite slow and just depends on having bigger numbers anyway. If you try it on pc you'll notice how limiting the controls actually are
manic bobcat
Chaos goes as they methink
bleak crag
my disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined
manic bobcat
<@162305901892599809> genshin looks action focused but looks are deceiving it ac...
thanks mate, didn't want to check the game out.
valid citrus
Ngl they did a great job advertising their **** addiction game
brisk trail
game is really pretty
bleak crag
it is pretty lmao
valid citrus
But it has no substance, worse progression than other gacha games and worse combat than other action games
bleak crag
but i don't want to get drowned in gacha again haha
rancid ember
Wow, LIghtning Reflexes is actually pretty good. Its standards for what constitutes a "near miss" is really generous
valid citrus
It combined two mediocre parts and made it look nice
manic bobcat
I think it's just the situation of the world right now that lets new games catches on like wild fire
rancid ember
I liked Genshin Impact because of the exploration, finding all the oculi and stuff
Also the story wasn't worthless
manic bobcat
Among Us, Fall Guys, Genshin, etc. People are just looking for connections and distractions man
brisk trail
jack of three trades (botw exploration, nier:a combat, gacha) master of one (gacha)
narrow hemlock
my distraction is hearing ares praise me for my carnage 
valid citrus
Now if only my good friend wasn't addicted to it cause she likes hot(?) anime guys
manic bobcat
I would like Ares if Blade Rifts weren't so ... underwhelming.
rapid forum
my distraction is ||ares saying he thinks of nyx all times||
manic bobcat
lul
bleak crag
yeah rofl, all of my female friends played genshin just because hot guys lol
narrow hemlock
i'll love the beyblades when you dont fox
winter harbor
Blade rifts really want hunting blades
manic bobcat
I would think Genshin attracts guys because of the waifus???
brisk trail
admittedly I picked up genshin because hot guys
winter harbor
Ares like duo boons
bleak crag
hot
brisk trail
diluc 😳
brisk trail
but i haven't opened recently.. tired of grinding
hades also has hot guys and is a good game so its perfect
bleak crag
#makehadesfree
manic bobcat
if your game has big swords and hot guys consider me sold
Have you heard of this game called Hades?
Hot guys, big swords
rapid forum
genshin is a bit easier to pick up
brisk trail
10 bucks
yeah, genshin is easy to play as well
hades takes some time if you're not a skilled gamer
narrow hemlock
Hot guys, big swords
considering the game awards nominees some people may mistake that for ff7
bleak crag
just wondering, is jen zee is in here? 
brisk trail
||aspect of arthur|| has quickly become one of my favorite video game swords ever lol
narrow hemlock
she is
rancid ember
Man, I swear Asterius' wide swing is even wider than it looks. I can't seem to dodge it... I keep not figuring out how to dodge straight in the opposite direction of swing
valid citrus
Thicc sword for thicc swings
brisk trail
u gotta time it