h1-discussion

[gusty slate]

that's no good

we have an infestation in Elysium as is

[fleet hazel]

:p

[tepid plover]

I want a hades vs charon 1v1

See who's the ultimate ruler

[carmine ravine]

zag wins therefore zag rules them all

[tepid plover]

Only infestation in elysium is theseus

[gusty slate]

Doesn't Hades admit ||that even he isn't foolish enough to mess with Charon||?

[tepid plover]

Well he ain't wrong

[carmine ravine]

whn did u get that dialogue?

when losing?

[gusty slate]

I don't remember the dialogue, it was him commenting on my past... mistake

[tepid plover]

I think that was hypnos

Or than

Must be hypnos since he's the one commenting on deaths

[midnight wasp]

hades: we have an intruder
me: oh no

[carmine ravine]

you can avoid those rooms with one of the heat iirc

[midnight wasp]

YES i survived

[tepid plover]

Just run in circles

[midnight wasp]

i took them on

hades: you waste my time
me: more like you’re wasting mine

[deep geyser]

Headcanon: ||Charon is the reason Hades doesn't stop us until the end. He's afraid of starting a fight in the shop and getting slapped by Charon||

[tribal glade]

wait, what did you take on/survive @midnight wasp ?

[midnight wasp]

louts and witches and such

[tepid plover]

Survival rooms

[midnight wasp]

yeah

i don’t see myself making it out of hell really but it’s alright

i’ve only discovered house of hades, tartarus, and chaos

[tepid plover]

I want a ring tone of hades saying "INTERLOPER"

[midnight wasp]

oh no oh no

it’s meg again

[tepid plover]

[tribal glade]

i think i prefer fighting meg to the others

i think i just prefer meg in general 😉

[amber cloak]

I heard that hangover doesn't stack well, does Doom handle stacking well?

[quaint hatch]

Doom doesn't stack

Unless you have a boon
And that only stacks damage to a degree

[amber cloak]

Oh. So bad choice for Fist Attack? XD

[quaint hatch]

Yep

[tribal glade]

yeah, if you want doom in your fists build i'd either go with special or revenge

[gusty slate]

I mean, can be made into a good choice

[shy tartan]

I DEMAND A CEREBUS STEAM TRADING CARD

[quaint hatch]

Try to swing for the merciful end duo boon with athena

[fleet hazel]

Just merciful end

[quaint hatch]

And get her dash

[fleet hazel]

Best doom dps

[tribal glade]

oooh yeah, merciful end works well with that

[quaint hatch]

That's how it can be made into a good choice lol

[tribal glade]

athena dash goooooooo

also, athena dash is good with fists anyway so...

[amber cloak]

What about Dire Misfortune though?

[midnight wasp]

i killed meg!!!! WOO!!!

[quaint hatch]

Athena dash is good

[amber cloak]

Doesn't that enabled stacking?

[tepid plover]

Unless you have a boon
And that only stacks damage to a degree
Is like 10 dmg per stack, the common version at least

[quaint hatch]

As I said

[gusty slate]

can work

[tepid plover]

Yeah dire missfortune

[carmine ravine]

when using fists, the stack is nice i guess

[quaint hatch]

Unless you have a boon
And that only stacks damage to a degree
@quaint hatch .

[midnight wasp]

i have 10 health and hades is talking to me again.. send help

well 13 actually

[quaint hatch]

The stack can make doom work in attack
But you can just take me lol

[midnight wasp]

yes there was a fountain

[shy tartan]

shut up, meg

[tribal glade]

howd you go from 10hp to 13hp with a fountian???

[shy tartan]

where are my reference-getters at?

[midnight wasp]

i didn’t get to 13hp with the fountain

i just made it to asphodel

[tribal glade]

so the 13hp is pre-fountain use?

i mean, alive is alive! good luck in asphodel!

[carmine ravine]

dont forget to step out of the magma

[gusty slate]

fight until our last breath

[tribal glade]

ideally avoid stepping in the lava, but that's not as bad as forgetting to step out of the lava

[gusty slate]

lava lonely

[tribal glade]

in lava very briefly is fine fyi

[cloud hound]

New question: Erebus gates. Are they always "clear without getting hit"? Or do they vary?

[quaint hatch]

Always

[cloud hound]

Noted

Got hit immediately the first one I did lol

[gusty slate]

[shy tartan]

also it would be nice to have a boon that reduces aphosodels lava damage

that gets annoying

[cloud hound]

And I'm guessing once you earn the bounties you can't reclaim them again?

[gusty slate]

Have you beaten final boss yet?

[carmine ravine]

u get darkness

[cloud hound]

I have not

[quaint hatch]

You can
After your first clear there will be an option

also it would be nice to have a boon that reduces aphosodels lava damage
@shy tartan athena has a boon that reduces trap damage

[cloud hound]

Well no I've clearwd 4 times I should say

[quaint hatch]

Cleared means beaten the final boss

[cloud hound]

But if there's a FINAL final boss no I haven't beaten it

[quaint hatch]

Have you gotten to styx?

[cloud hound]

I have

And beat Hades

[quaint hatch]

Beaten the boss there?

[cloud hound]

4 times

[quaint hatch]

Then you should've unlocked heat

[cloud hound]

Correct

[quaint hatch]

Raise that
You get new bounties

Per weapon

[cloud hound]

I just asked about Erebus gates

So that should imply I've done that already

[tepid plover]

[gusty slate]

Well....

[quaint hatch]

Well bounties is a word for boss rewards

[cloud hound]

I was just asking if there was any way to earn them after that

But I got my answer, just darkness

[quaint hatch]

After 20 heat only the prophecies

[tribal glade]

as said, use the pact of punishment to up the heat levels to get access to blood etc from bosses again - the heat levels are specific to the weapon so you can clear with every weapon at 0 heat first then 1 heat per weapon or just build up heat on 1 weapon that you like more etc

[carmine ravine]

or broker

[quaint hatch]

Reading hard

[gusty slate]

What's reading

[carmine ravine]

or styx

[quaint hatch]

Or new save file

[gusty slate]

lizard brain no understand

[carmine ravine]

lizard no brain

[undone frost]

hey quick question is it impossible to get both the hazard bomb and the rocket for the rail in the same run?

[quaint hatch]

Yep

[gusty slate]

I would think so, since they're drastic changes

[quaint hatch]

Rocket changes the special

Hazard bomb is wired to the bomb

[undone frost]

damn thats unfortunate i wanted mega nukes

[gusty slate]

would be sorta funny though

[carmine ravine]

better use of that would be cluster bomb + the rocket instead

[quaint hatch]

I wish lot more hammers would combine or work differently/at all with certain hammer combos

[gusty slate]

Hammer Duos

Daedalus was ahead of his time

[quaint hatch]

I want hammer duos and legendaries

More rng
More rng

[carmine ravine]

bow legendaries, 100% crit chance for distant foes

[barren ocean]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UHShb7Jja4

I totally missed this

[gusty slate]

round 2 eh?

[quaint hatch]

bow legendaries, 100% crit chance for distant foes
@carmine ravine chiron: your special marks enemies
After that your attack tracks the targeted enemies

cursed

[carmine ravine]

rail legenday: global dmg +200% base dmg aka literal nukes

[gusty slate]

Oh I need to find that one hammer, buffed damage

[barren ocean]

WHAT DO YOU MEAN THEY CHOSE ACHILLES OVER DUSA

[gusty slate]

I've spent more time with Achilles

[carmine ravine]

heh suk on that ball of snakes

[barren ocean]

But DUSA

[quaint hatch]

Eris: after you absorb your bomb, end the encounter

[gusty slate]

Achilles taught us everything he knew

gave us his codex even!

[carmine ravine]

eris, absorbing dmg also provide 75% move speed & dodge chance

[ancient canyon]

Man I just had a crazy run with a zeused out eris rail.. got all the right boons in all the right places.. it felt like a bullet hell game where I was the baddie

[quaint hatch]

eris, absorbing dmg also provide 75% move speed & dodge chance
@carmine ravine nah that would be ridiculous

[carmine ravine]

ending the counter is more rediculous

[gusty slate]

It ends by killing zag

[quiet gull]

I mean

[gusty slate]

gg

[quiet gull]

The encounter already ends very rapidly after absorbing your Eris special

[quaint hatch]

ending the counter is more rediculous
@carmine ravine that's what eris already does

[carmine ravine]

what if i stand silently after absorbing huh, whaddya gonna do about that?

[quaint hatch]

[gusty slate]

He's using intimidation tactics, flee!

[quaint hatch]

End
The
Encounter

[ancient canyon]

I’m trying to get to the epilogue now.. so what’s the consensus.. do I need full hearts on all the Olympus gods or no? And do I need 8 heat?

[quaint hatch]

There's a guide

[quiet gull]

You do not need heat

[ancient canyon]

I read conflicting reports in different posts and articles tho

[quiet gull]

Check out the spoiler channel

[quaint hatch]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2232655399

[ancient canyon]

I’ve just been tossing nectar around everywhere

[quaint hatch]

Butterfingers

Here's a concrete guide

[gusty slate]

I need to keep throwing dialogue around

[carmine ravine]

i mean some gods needs you to bond with ppl to get their own bonds, the meta

[quaint hatch]

6 Olympians bond required basically

[ancient canyon]

So by olympians we mean the gods that give boons?

So not Nyx or Persephone or anyone in the underworld?

[quaint hatch]

Under Olympians in the codex section

Chaos doesn't count

Read all the reqs in the guide
That's why I posted it lol

It also tells you the reqs for max bonds with them

[woven cipher]

Pc gamers, how many arrows do Chiron get now?

[carmine ravine]

8 iirc

or is it 7

[gusty slate]

lemme check

[woven cipher]

I think my switch game isn't updated on the 13 Oct patch

Which is why I'm missing a lot of things

[quaint hatch]

No the arrow number was upped

But damage was lowered

[woven cipher]

I see 7, idk if this was before our after patch

[gusty slate]

8 yeah

[woven cipher]

Aight gg

[quaint hatch]

Chiron still good tho

[gusty slate]

Switch is behind on updates though

[woven cipher]

Buying this game on switch was a mistake

Should've done it on pc

[quaint hatch]

Get it on both

[woven cipher]

I'm missing content left and right

[gusty slate]

Eh

[quaint hatch]

You're not missing content

[woven cipher]

I'm getting it on both after cross save

[quaint hatch]

You're getting to play stronger chiron

Updates just come later

[woven cipher]

Sadly that's not this month

[gusty slate]

month hasn't ended yet

[quaint hatch]

[woven cipher]

It's on the announcement channel, it's not coming

[gusty slate]

Darn

[tepid plover]

Thanks for being honest and keeping us updated papa greg

[quaint hatch]

That's relegated to cross save
Not the updated in general afaik

[carmine ravine]

world is empty and life is meaningless

[quaint hatch]

Yep

Good thing hades doesn't change that

[tepid plover]

gives my life meaning

[quaint hatch]

That's the only

[carmine ravine]

i dont even know what update i just got just now

[brave arrow]

Creepypasta update, just in time for Halloween

[tepid plover]

You play as Charon

Well zag but disguised as charon

[carmine ravine]

you play as , literally does nothing all day

[quaint hatch]

Makes people's life better

[gusty slate]

Woah, is the hardest worker in the underworld

[brave cobalt]

do we know if the crossplay update is still expected by end of october?\

[quaint hatch]

It isn't

#announcements

[brave cobalt]

ooof. i really want to move to PC, switch performance is getting to me

[quaint hatch]

Huh for me performance is fine
Aside when encountering flame wheels with jury summons

[brave cobalt]

slowdown really gets me & i'd love to pump 144 frames - but i dont want to start over

thanks for pointing me to Greg's explanation though - will wait patiently 🙂

[quaint hatch]

Guess that's your only option :/

[frozen ember]

Hey there, does anywhere know where I could find a better refrence for the Symbol of Hades? Like the ones on the coins

[quaint hatch]

||his keepsake|| once you unlock it
It's basically the sign ig

Or screenshot when the game saves lol

[frozen ember]

Rad ty

Nothing quite as red but it will do i suppos3

[quaint hatch]

Idk if anyone got extracted pngs

Interested in Hades Modding?
Join the Hades Modding discord now!
https://discord.gg/KuMbyrN

Maybe ask here?

[frozen ember]

Only if they got the image lmao

[quaint hatch]

Well as I said
Maybe someone for extracted pngs of that

[lunar cypress]

I wish chain lightning stuff bounced back to the original targets if there's no un-hit ones left in range..

[carmine ravine]

nope

[quaint hatch]

That's what jolted is for lol

[lunar cypress]

I still don't really get the point of the storm lightning boon

[quaint hatch]

Getting the legendary

[lunar cypress]

I guess?

[quaint hatch]

Guess its somewhat decent with jury summons

[lunar cypress]

I'd like it more if it increased the bounce range too or something

[quaint hatch]

If it bounced between the same person

[amber cloak]

I'd like to know how Theseus ever beat Asterius when they were alive. Asterius is like five times stronger than Theseus when I fight them

[lunar cypress]

He probably cheated

[quaint hatch]

Assuming he didn't have an axe as the bull of minos

So that prolly does a lot

[quiet gull]

Asterius has had time to calm down and focus

[amber cloak]

Actually it kind of makes sense, Theseus blocks all frontal attacks, kind of a bad match up against Asterius

Basically Asterius got cheesed

[quaint hatch]

In video game logic

Yes

[verbal lotus]

Hmmm

[silk remnant]

I was watching a review video of Hades and its captioned Escape from Undertale and I was like... Yeah.

[royal plinth]

Darkkmane?

[silk remnant]

Yes haha

"Athena!... From Undertale" lol

[stoic geyser]

woohoo, reached credits finally. that's all i wanted to say lol

[long field]

Great Job!

[fringe loom]

[lone flame]

Just checking but are there any specific things to do to make Than appear for the first time? I’m on my second save and he hasn’t shown up yet.

[tame nymph]

Beat a run on the highest heat level with all 5 main boons being from the same God to unlock an outfit inspired by the god of the boons you chose.

[agile saddle]

does chain skewer get a base +30% damage on the first hit of special or does that not apply to the initial hit?

[minor prawn]

would here be a good place to bug report?

[stoic geyser]

#h1-tech-support is where you want.

[minor prawn]

ok thanks

[shy tartan]

what is odysseus's favor?

[tepid plover]

who?

[shy tartan]

mybad

achillies

autocorrect

weve been reading oddyseus in english

but what is achillies favor?

[tepid plover]

tagged you in story channel

[lavish condor]

So, everyone agree that Supergiant should make an Olympus sequel game?

[tepid plover]

i just want hades content

i doubt they will make another roguelike, so ill stick to hades

[lavish condor]

Me too. But I’m considering they don’t love us that much

[tepid plover]

bro how dont they love us

they gave us a masterpiece

[lavish condor]

I said THAT much LUL

[carmine ravine]

dont need a sequel, dlcs is enuf

[tepid plover]

^

this i can totally see happening

the game is getting a lot of attention

[carmine ravine]

sgg itself already built a reputation for their previous games, so its no surprise

[latent junco]

Hades is there biggest and I am so happy. I really hope it motivates them to make dlc

[autumn solar]

Is there a way to see which hammer upgrades you have?

[fringe needle]

I just wonder, what if the Egyptian gods are made in Hades’ art style?

[tepid plover]

Is there a way to see which hammer upgrades you have?
there's a boon menu button, is B on pc, don't know controller

[autumn solar]

Sure, but there's a whole bunch of stuff there; any way to tell which one is the hammer vs boons?

[tepid plover]

it comes with knowledge really

hammers will usually be grey'ish, the rest are colored depending on the gods

like aphros are pink

[autumn solar]

Ah, actuall there is: the diamond's outline color, ya?

[tepid plover]

ares are red

[autumn solar]

gotcha

thanks!

[carmine ravine]

hammers dont have levels or rarity

[tepid plover]

^

[hollow storm]

What dlc would you be looking for? More boons? New story line? Weapons?

[carmine ravine]

mostly story

[hollow storm]

I want more weapons

[tepid plover]

yeah gameplay is fine as it is, i want more story

more specifically i want olympus story

let me go to olympus

let me talk to olympians

[hollow storm]

That would be sick

Or fight them

[tepid plover]

that's what i expected the ||epilogue|| was going to be

so i was kinda sad

when i just had a cutscene

at least let me walk around the ||feast||

[lavish condor]

Sadly most people want story dlc. I want combat oriented dlc, increasing everything’s pool

[tepid plover]

yeah the game biggest quality was the story

i wouldnt mind gameplay update

but story is definitely my top desire

[lavish condor]

Why not both right? XD

[tepid plover]

indeed

at this point ill take anything

idc

i just want more hades

[cloud hound]

Gonna have to confess... this game is kinda ugly. It's disgusting really.

I mean... there's so much Ancient Greece.

🥁

[lunar cypress]

[cloud hound]

Eh?

Eh?

[lunar cypress]

🍅

[north pier]

boo

[wheat kayak]

[gleaming shard]

🙋‍♂️I’ve got a few math questions in relation to damage and stacking and percentages. Where would be the best place to ask those?

[exotic basalt]

Probably #h1-builds-and-combat

[gleaming shard]

Thank you!

[alpine fulcrum]

Cool I actually punched the last boss to death and didn't rely on ice crystals or anything to wear him down that time

[sharp fossil]

fb is a spoiler here iirc

[tribal glade]

fb = final boss

[alpine fulcrum]

Gets easier when you have demeter gloves up to level 4 and heroic special boon and the charge up hammer

And triple dash

[tribal glade]

agreed

[icy zephyr]

just got a 10 streak

7 of them had divine dash h elp

[winter pike]

Are any aspects objectively superior to others or is it more of a play style choice

[exotic basalt]

A bit of column A and B

[quasi olive]

I so hope there will be Hades DLCs! SGG, take my money, please!!!

[tired thorn]

Hey guys i am just here to give my appreciation to the developer and all the staffs that made this game. It's so awesome. I really love the voice acting and the music in the game. So much love for hades. Lastly i would absolutelly paid money for DLC. Thx Supergiant for making a great game!

[next umbra]

hey

[granite ether]

[cyan aspen]

does anyone know how to unlcok "sundial, imported" from the contractor? i see it on the wiki but haven't seen it and ive completed almost everything else

ah nvm, just searched messages and i saw somebody say it's bugged

well damn. missing "good riddance" and "sundial" both of which are bugged. guess i'll sit tight

[dark scroll]

RNG.... sigh... then you don't get X god at all and now I get Zeus 4 out of 5 rooms. ;p

2 heroics, legendary from zeus but still no double strike, RNGesus... we gotta have a word.

[oak shore]

You ||reroll|| any of them?

[dark scroll]

twice but no luck ;p

legendary alone is enough to fry stuff but still

[brisk trail]

i typed "good riddance flute cover hades" on youtube, and there's no result 😢 i'm super sad

it would sound amazing

[plain lava]

Does running the game with Vulkan make a huge difference?

[oak shore]

@brisk trail Be the change you want to see in the world

Learn the flute

[dark scroll]

"one required", does having 2, 3, 4 increases the chances then or is that w/e?

Ok 8 zeus powers now, 2 in the last area... lets see. ;p

There we go, double strike rare!

[oak shore]

If it's any consolation I've spent a week now doing Poseidon runs trying to get Rip Current and still haven't seen it

[dark scroll]

Just checking but you know you gotta get the aid one first right? ;p

[oak shore]

Yeah, of course ^^

Though thank you for checking can you imagine

[dark scroll]

I've plenty of dumb stuff this year so yea. ;p

seen*

[oak shore]

I did like three runs trying to find Greater Recall before realising I had Stygian Soul on instead of Infernal Soul, so fair enough

[high island]

If you want to get Rip Current, try to make sure all your priority slots are also filled: Attack, Special, Cast, and Dash. (Call isn't considered priority.) Otherwise, he'll always offer at least one priority boon, and that means you get only two chances for Rip Current instead of three.

[dark scroll]

Only need 1 more shield hammer upgrade in terms of boons.

[high island]

Some hammers are unavailable on certain aspects, so be mindful of that.

[dark scroll]

wish you reroll hammer once for like 3 keys, but i guess that would make getting a combo with em too strong/easy

[oak shore]

@high island that's a good tip, thanks! I'd often hold out on priority boons until I found something I felt was good, so that should help

[worthy pawn]

is guan yu any worth maxing?

i dont really see anything special about it esp when the lifesteal spin is kinda meh

[high island]

Yeah, some priority slots don't really matter for your playstyle, so it's good to fill them with anything just for that—and often unlocking some Duo Boon in the process.

[wheat kayak]

GY's spin is honestly the best part about it for me

And the special is pretty good too

It's a blade rift on steroids

[worthy pawn]

idk though it seems pretty hard to pull off in the middle of battle

[dark scroll]

GY finally gives the spear a good special. ;p

[wheat kayak]

Better if you get its own hammer, or Massive Spin/Quick Spin

Either of those or even both

[dark scroll]

And it makes spin usefull. ;p

[carmine ravine]

you might as well use a bow

[wheat kayak]

If you got yourself used to Hades spear, GY is the same deal imo

And I love Hades spear

[dark scroll]

I saw that.

[carmine ravine]

hades spear spin is a bit bigger

[wheat kayak]

I mean in the sense of actually using the spin in some capacity

And for Hades you'd want to spin a lot

[worthy pawn]

does hermes attack speed boost work with spin?

[wheat kayak]

The only times I'd spin on other spears is when enemies are ready to spawn in

Don't think so

[carmine ravine]

thres a hammer for that

[wheat kayak]

If you aren't already on FO you usually have quite a bit of room to time your spins anyway

[dark scroll]

Standing still isn't something thats amazing in act 2, and worse afterwards. ;p

And the main targetting point should always be what do I use vs the boss(es).

[wheat kayak]

You can totally use Hades even against redacted

Even without quick spin

[dark scroll]

You can, not smart but you can. ;p

[wheat kayak]

it might not be 'smart' but it's fun and that's the selling point

[worthy pawn]

honestly id like it even more if you were impervious while charging your spin attack

[high island]

There are plenty of times even in the final boss fight where you can spin safely.

[wheat kayak]

Easiest is probably hiding behind the pillars while redacted is on the other side

[dark scroll]

I can always deal more damage if I ust attack normally.

And safer.

[wheat kayak]

Since the spin hits past the pillar as well

[high island]

With Hades Aspect? No, you can't. The debuff is huge.

[worthy pawn]

redacted?

[dark scroll]

Wait, what button did I press for the screen/text to get bigger?

[worthy pawn]

is that a new boss?

[wheat kayak]

no

[worthy pawn]

h?

[wheat kayak]

redacted is redacted

it's the final boss

[worthy pawn]

ohhh

you mean guy fieri?

i see

[dark scroll]

Which is totally not a spoiler anymore. ;p

[worthy pawn]

i didnt know people called him redacted

[wheat kayak]

Well Hypnos does and personally it's more fun than just simply final boss

or putting him in spoiler tags everytime

Hades max level pretty much doubles your damage output after spin btw so it's spending the opportunity to attack safely with normal methods for pretty significant gains

[oak shore]

Coming from the SCP wiki, the fact the final boss is generally referred to as either Redacted or ||blackout marker|| is very funny to me

[wheat kayak]

Otherwise I'd have gone for default spear

[worthy pawn]

holup so which isthe best spear to use?

[wheat kayak]

Debatable

[dark scroll]

GY.

[amber cloak]

That's personal preference

Like all things

Cuz this is a well balanced game

[wheat kayak]

Yeah spear aspects are all equally valid imo

[dark scroll]

For the most part. ;p

I got some gripes with the dashes. 😄

[high island]

Probably Hades Aspect.

[wheat kayak]

Though I haven't had much luck with Achilles + cast builds

More success using it like you know a spear

Trying to augment casts with its special feels clunky to me but then I'd chalk that up to me not familiar enough with it

[high island]

Try Electric Shot on Achilles Aspect and just put a lot of poms on it.

[worthy pawn]

only stuff ive maxed so far is zag sword, zag spear, chiron and chaos

[wheat kayak]

I should do that, l was trying Dio cast

[worthy pawn]

any other S tier weapons as of the moment that i could max?

[amber cloak]

That's the thing, you're gonna have different mileage with aspects depending on how you play. Cast builds are absolutely insane in this game, and one of my best builds ever was with Achilles

[pine spindle]

Achilles is the throw and rush spear, yeh? Does that lend itself to casts much?

[amber cloak]

Increased attack/cast damage after rush

[wheat kayak]

+damage for next 4 attacks/casts

[pine spindle]

Ohh yes

[high island]

Remember you don't need to throw your Special at an enemy. You can just throw it somewhere safe and Rush there for the bonus.

[dark scroll]

Casts are one of if not the strongest damage output in the entire game while remaining mostly "riskfree".

[high island]

Somewhat like an extra dash.

[amber cloak]

Its a good combo with aprodite cast

Get real close behind them and spam away

[dark scroll]

Is was buffed without casts in the beginning but that made it just a bit boring.

Now its more versatile.

[amber cloak]

Chef's kiss if you get the duo that applies backstab to casts

[high island]

@worthy pawn Eris is #1.

[dark scroll]

I had the double cast with swirlies around iot with dementer 10 stack clear on the sword. Stuff got destroyed.

[carmine ravine]

i legit dont understand ppl who dont know how to use rails

[dark scroll]

Took like 10 casts to kill the boss.

Total.

[worthy pawn]

eris hmm

[dark scroll]

Well time for foodz and workz. ;o

No gaming allowed at workz.

[carmine ravine]

this is discord

[amber cloak]

Finally beat ||Charon ||after not fighting him in Tartarus like an idiot. Only got hit twice which sounds really good if it were any other boss but because he hits like a truck, that's like 100 HP

[dark scroll]

Gotta win the 2nd fight now but skipped the last 2 times cause well I only had like 2 boons.

[worthy pawn]

okay so i got eris what build do i puton him

[dark scroll]

w/e you want, you'll do plenty of runs. ;p

[worthy pawn]

trying to maintain my winstream asmap

[wheat kayak]

In fairness I think rail is very easy to feel underwhelming versus some other weapons

[amber cloak]

Builds are a myth, you just work with what you get, but generally it's an all-rounder that works well with any build

[dark scroll]

stuff that goes boom, so no zeus, ares and such on special

since its slow to fire

but main attack is the opposite

[wheat kayak]

Ares spec on rail is fine imo, more than Demeter spec or Dio spec at any rate

[dark scroll]

not on special

[wheat kayak]

Or at least if you get Cluster Bomb

[dark scroll]

unless you purely get it for the debuff

[wheat kayak]

or Triple Bomb

[amber cloak]

Your focus should be a bit more on attack than special though, that's your main damage dealer

Unless you're going for casts

[dark scroll]

those 3 are all the same in that they aren't good on slow firing weapons

[wheat kayak]

Well I built towards Curse of Nausea for my last Eris run so it's intentional

[worthy pawn]

ahgkdhg i cant decive between GY and eris

[carmine ravine]

you can focus on special with triple/cluster bomb

[amber cloak]

Ares is really good for special wdym? Ares is bad on fast weapons because Doom doesn't stack well

[worthy pawn]

im not sure which to max

[dark scroll]

but the rail special is so slow its not great there either

[wheat kayak]

Even with Dire Misfortune multiple Doom stacks is meh yeah

But like I said Cluster Bomb/Triple Bomb

[dark scroll]

it works great on bow, spear sword special

[amber cloak]

The slower it is the better it works with Doom

[wheat kayak]

Hell even Rocket should work since the firerate on that isn't half bad

[amber cloak]

Because it becomes a better option than the rest

[carmine ravine]

cluster with rocket just gives yourself a big shotgun to the face

[atomic seal]

Doom is not good till you get athena dash with merciful end

[wheat kayak]

Merciful End on Zeus shield

name me a better combo

[atomic seal]

Fist seems better with merciful end

I once manage to get both merciful end with deadly strike

That was lit

Deadly reversal*

I forget that duo boon name

[wheat kayak]

yo that's some lucc

[amber cloak]

Doom is good, but won't be your main damage dealer unless you have a specific build. It's just really good easy to set up supporting damage

[atomic seal]

Not luck, I abused purging boon once I got first duo boon in early game

Then used keepsake

[wheat kayak]

seriously though I can proc ME at least twice faster on Zeus shield than fist + dash

probably

What boons did you purged?

[atomic seal]

I think I purged everything beside doom on attack and athena dash and ofc ME

[wheat kayak]

radical

[atomic seal]

Only bad boon was zeus's

[wheat kayak]

I wish to learn more of the dark purging arts

[high island]

@worthy pawn get Lightning Strike, Tidal Dash, and Sea Storm on Eris; and then, just double-down on their t2 boons and ideally legendaries. That's the #1 speedrun build right now because it just destroys absolutely everything while just holding down Attack and dashing into every enemy. If you also see Lady Artemis, pick up a core boon from her to unlock Support Fire in her pool. That's pretty good.

[atomic seal]

Its easy to plan ahead what you want once you unlock boon info in codex

[wheat kayak]

I have a tendency to hoard boons

usually in the hope I score something helpful but that usually isn't really the case

[amber cloak]

I don't think I've ever purged a boon before

[atomic seal]

Hoarding boon is bad idea whenever I reach Elysium

[wheat kayak]

So when I turn on UC I was pleasantly surprised how much I can trim my build and remain effective

[atomic seal]

Pom become useless and you kept upgrading useles boon

That doesn't help

[wheat kayak]

oh yeah that's true

[atomic seal]

Lol i remember i once purged a boon on purpose so I don't get duo boon but legendary instead

[amber cloak]

I'm sure that it's probably more optimal, but it's not like not purging is gonna kill your run, I'm on like a 20 win streak never purging before

[atomic seal]

If you get bad god on your build then whatever you do pick the rarest boon and hope to sell it later for shekel

[wheat kayak]

I pretty much never purged before until UC

It opened my eyes to the light

Yeah, it's about optimisation

[twilit nymph]

UC?

[wheat kayak]

game isn't so hard that every single action has such lasting consequences.. oh that's also the name of a condition hah

[amber cloak]

I've found that just rolling with the punches and bad boons can actually lead you to crazy builds that you never thought would've worked but are actually amazing

[atomic seal]

Also is styg soul mirror upgrade bugged with chaos boon?

[wheat kayak]

hmm

||Underworld Customs|| @twilit nymph

[atomic seal]

I kept getting chaos legendary on second meeting with chaos

[twilit nymph]

Thanks, I just finished the story and I'm ready to learn how to break the game.

[zinc basin]

Is 25% the cap on Family Favorite? I had 6 boons but the status bar showed 25%

[hexed trail]

I believe by default, without fiddling with the boon pool, that's the max you can get in a run

Since you're guaranteed 4 gods + Hermes

[amber cloak]

Oh wow, I've been trying to play the lyre 10 times in between every run but once you actually get decent at it, the 7 sec wait time in between each strum is painful

[zinc basin]

Yeah, I tried to go over the cap with a keepsake

[undone frost]

they should put in a "coffee shop" type deal after you beat the story to give you rewards for beating the game in faster times

[amber cloak]

Hear a lot about ||Arthur|| aspect being bad but it's literally my fastest time and it's my first time trying it. The run wasn't even all that special

[wheat kayak]

arthur
bad
idk man whoever claimed that seems kinda sus

[brisk trail]

Steam calls everything bad

[exotic basalt]

Tbh the right boons/hammers makes anything good

[brisk trail]

No no that means you're a simp for devs

[high copper]

I’ll shamelessly simp for supergiant tbh

[exotic basalt]

Same

Im waiting for the save data sync to switch, then Ill buy it there too

[undone frost]

i was kinda shocked to see there is no hera

[alpine fulcrum]

Steam is right, all the weapons/boons/powerups you can choose are bad. Except god mode that's pretty strong.

[high copper]

I was hoping to see/hear some Hera and Hestia too tbh

[exotic basalt]

Hera is mentioned, but not as a god that gives you boons

[alpine fulcrum]

Hera probably wants you to stay in the underworld, knowing her

[amber cloak]

Hera's probably afraid Zag'd seduce Zeus or something

[undone frost]

im sure there will be dlc for new gods or even free updates

[exotic basalt]

Zeus seduces everyone anyway

[high island]

Lady Aphrodite is in the game. 💗 The rest don't matter anyway.

[alpine fulcrum]

Supergiant doesn't generally do dlc

[amber cloak]

Zeus will go for anything with a hole according to mythology

[high copper]

no DLC confirmed or planned as of yet, moist one

[hexed trail]

Yeah, Hera's absence implies she isn't really onboard with the whole "get Zag to Olympus" mission.

[undone frost]

i mean there was the winter dlc

[high copper]

and I know they mention Hephaestus is just too busy

those were updates while the game was in Early Access, moist

[undone frost]

to me thats just free dlc

[exotic basalt]

Yeah we can hope, but I can imagine with SuperGiant taking a break after Hades it'll be a while before we hear what they are up to next

[amber cloak]

DLC is anything after the game gets released

[high copper]

precisely

[undone frost]

i mean dlc is downloadable content

[amber cloak]

The question is whether Hades will get post-launch support, whether that comes in updates, dlc, or a sequel

That makes literally any update any early access game gets dlc if you're trying to use that definition

[undone frost]

if you have to download something that adds content technically yes

[high copper]

early access updates aren’t DLC, they are literally the devs making the game the Full Game

[undone frost]

patches wouldnt be dlc because those dont add anything

[high copper]

DLC is post-Full Launch content added to go above and beyond the original planned content

[amber cloak]

That definition isn't right, that makes games themselves dlc because they're "dowloadable content"

[undone frost]

i think thats a stretch to far there

[amber cloak]

The stretch too far was already made when you said early access updates were dlc

[high copper]

precisely

[undone frost]

not really tbh

[high copper]

again, true DLC happens after the full launch

for now, Supergiant has now plans to release more content updates

they’re working on balance patches, cross saves, and taking a bit of a break after working their butts off to release the full game

[amber cloak]

Although, they haven't announced any plans yet to be fair, only that they're taking a break and announcing future plans after that, so post-launch support is still in the cards

[raw path]

moist you can keep your own definition of dlc if you want, just know the rest of the world follows a different one

talking to you about dlc will always confuse others until you clarify

for example on Steam you may notice that the winter update is not listed under the DLC section for the game on the store

nowhere official uses your definition

[alpine fulcrum]

people talk about free dlc and paid dlc

if its a console game its 'free dlc', if its a pc game its a 'content patch' or somesuch

[raw path]

no free dlc is free content instead of paid content

it is still separate from a patch

[alpine fulcrum]

moist already said patches without new content arent dlc

[raw path]

but he said that pre-release updates to the game count as dlc

[alpine fulcrum]

oh

yeah but f2p games stay in beta for years and let you buy microtransactions so what even is 'release' anymore

[raw path]

release still has a standard definition even if dev studios abuse the early access features

[brisk trail]

this game have a steam save sync right?..

[tribal tartan]

hello everyone I had a gameplay question. Am I right here?

[hexed trail]

Yup, fire away

[tribal tartan]

I got to the "final boss" one run and died, out of Death Defiance. But suddenly Zeus called out "Let's do it Nephew!" or sth and I gained a final use of it anyway. The "final boss" said "Zeus?", but killed me anyway. I can'tfind anything online about that

is there a random chance for gods to save you upon death? because I am pretty sure there was no death defiance left

[karmic oasis]

You might have had one "life" left, because you dont die when there are no DD, you die after running out of HP after losing your last DD

and maybe you triggered a full Zeus call incidentally

[hexed trail]

Are you sure you didn't accidentally activate Zeus's Greater Call? The final boss reacts to those and they usually have a call out when you summon them

[karmic oasis]

Greater Call, thats the actual name, thanks Salty lol

[tribal tartan]

I am not sure, maybe... Maybe I had a full god bar. I was pretty distracted at the moment

[karmic oasis]

FB can make things pretty busy lol

[hexed trail]

Totally understandable, that fight is hectic as hell haha

[tribal tartan]

I must ahve imagined it! Which is kind of a shame... Thanks everyone!

[karmic oasis]

The only DD boons that exist are from Ares and Athena FYI, which dont give you a surprise revive, but rather a benefit when DD is used (plus restoring one when taken)

[austere jacinth]

Well, Chaos has one that gives you an extra

[ashen prism]

aww bummer about cross play delays but that's okay.. I'm just getting to the point I think I can really beat FB but wanted to do it on my gaming rig instead of switch.

[karmic oasis]

@austere jacinth Oops, correct, but still, not a random proc one

[austere jacinth]

True.

[karmic oasis]

But then again, its Chaos, maybe we always had that extra DD

[dark root]

Finally got to ||the temple of satyr||

[hexed trail]

Congrats! You're in the home stretch

[dark root]

And got killed by poison lol

But thanks

[ashen prism]

You may have noticed them, but there are some || little glowing fountains you can drink from|| that will cure the poison.

usually 1-2 in each chamber.

[dark root]

Yeah, I died before getting to one of them, I was in low health

I probably would've died anyway

[karmic oasis]

Just.... stay away from the rats

after being there for so long, I have learned to deal with almost every threat, but once in a while, the rats still can get me

[dark root]

Ok, thanks for the advice

[karmic oasis]

the big rats I should say

[high island]

Pro tip: pause the game immediately when you get poisoned, and look for a curing pool.

Or it would be a pro tip if I got paid for playing the game.

[novel shell]

Are there any plans for the game to come to xbox and ps4/5?

[austere jacinth]

None are known at present.

[novel shell]

😦 dang I think it would bring more recognition to the game if i got on game pass or something like that

[dark root]

It probably would, but at the moment there hasn't been announced any plans of it happening, it could happen later, but don't take my word for it

[raw path]

wasnt transistor on the ps4?

i wonder why hades wasnt made for ps4

[dark root]

Bastion was basically everywhere

I think Hades is the only one that isn't on playstation consoles

[karmic oasis]

Probably because PC has a bigger Early Access culture

so they released it on the platform they could accomplish that best

[calm nova]

What's the base critical chance?

[hexed trail]

0% I believe.

[calm nova]

ye I thought so too

[crude plover]

Just got 100% on all of the steam achievements.

[dark root]

Congrats

[warm elbow]

I really wish they would add more achievements, i love to replay games because of them

[austere jacinth]

I don't usually bother with achievements at all. The fact that the achievements for Hades are so approachable is something that is very encouraging to me. I'd be a little sad if they added many more.

[solid ice]

Hello everyone. Is there some visibility on when the latest October patches will come to the Switch version? (I'm a little sad about not having Good Riddance at my music stand, when I understand the issue was fixed in a early October patch on PC)

[lone flame]

@solid ice just in my experience with switch games, usually takes another week or two to push through at least. Devs haven’t said anything concrete though.

[topaz needle]

Yeah when Dead Cells pushes a build on Steam I usually get it on Switch around 2-3 weeks later

Gotta go through Nintendo approval

and/or last minute porting changes

[lone flame]

Yeah Nintendo approval for patches is notoriously long.

[brisk trail]

I think Sony is also the same. I remember back when I still play Warframe, the update on Steam are always few weeks earlier than on Switch and PS4

[topaz needle]

Switch is the only console I own so I wouldn't know

If I don't play a game on my Switch it's likely I'll be playing it on my desktop

[solid ice]

Thanks for the replies, so hopefully the early October patch is not too far away. I could see that different patches between platforms could make it challenging to safely implement cross saves.

[wise stratus]

There we go! 100 escape attempts! 🙂

Farming gems is tough. If you want to do it, you often end up losing because of it!

[brisk trail]

Is there any requirement for the woodland theme? The 100 nectar one

[alpine fulcrum]

Do you get something for hitting 100 attempts lol

[heavy breach]

A sense of pride and accomplishment

[scarlet jolt]

so i do have to start over if i want the achievements?

if i played in the early access

[void vigil]

nope

[scarlet jolt]

good to hear

i checked and it said i didnt have any so i was worried

[void vigil]

you have to start the game on the save file you played on for them to pop up

[scarlet jolt]

ahhh

thanks

[lone flame]

@alpine fulcrum I think a certain character comments on it

[odd birch]

does anyone know what's the earliest room a charon shop can spawn in

[lone flame]

@wise stratus do you have any tip for farming gems? I’m doing that rn maybe ten hours into a new hell mode game and it’s ROUGH

[odd birch]

like if i am to use fated authority to try and roll a shop when should i do it

[wise stratus]

I start with conch shell, roll once for sunken treasure or preferably oceans bounty, then I switch to chaos keepsake and roll once for gem boon

[exotic basalt]

Youre guaranteed a shop in the middle and at the end of every region, is rolling for it necessary?

[quasi mauve]

do i need to play with different weapons for boss rewards

[exotic basalt]

Or even possible

[odd birch]

It's not guaranteed at all

[exotic basalt]

The shop before the boss is for sure guaranteed

[odd birch]

And yes it's possible, i've done it

I need the mid-area shop

[lone flame]

@wise stratus ah ok, ty! I don’t have that part of the mirror unlocked on this save. I’ll grind keys and darkness to get there. Tyvm

[hexed trail]

@quasi mauve Yes, you can only get each boss reward once per weapon to start off (there are ways to get more that unlock once you beat the final boss one time)

[lilac latch]

are there any mods that reorder boon requirements for ||duos||? preferrably alphabetically? I've been wondering about why I'm having issues with mentally sorting what I need for specific setups and noticed just now that for each of them, the prerequisites are listed in a different order

[wise stratus]

yeah, that mirror perk is necessary for farming as it doubles your luck 🙂

rest I run purple

I'm going to take a break from the game for a while though. If I return to it, I'll be focussing on beating the final boss instead of farming. Then when I've got all bounties, I can farm on low heats. 🙂

[lone flame]

Yeah I sort of screwed myself out that starting on 5 heat to begin with. It’s been challenging but it’s a struggle early on lol

[weary ice]

What's the deal with some companions being unusable in certain boss fights? I've used rib on the final boss, but it won't let me use fidi.

[brisk trail]

Loyatly to him

He'll allow after sometime

[weary ice]

Battie can't be used on furies, which I guess makes sense, but I wish it was more explicit

[tiny grove]

You can't use Than's one with Than challenges

either

[hexed trail]

You also can't use the rib against ||Charon|| I believe

[indigo canopy]

thats bc ||charon is skellys boss||

[tiny grove]

Yes Daddy Charon

[indigo canopy]

also how do you unlock olympic gods affinity gauges

are there certain requirements to be reached?

[tiny grove]

||You do favors for them||

[indigo canopy]

i unlocked zeus through just conversation

[tiny grove]

they're all specific ones

and then there's an RNG convo for each

[indigo canopy]

ah, ||what are their favours?|| or could u direct me to a list:)

[tiny grove]

You're best off checking their wikis
https://hades.gamepedia.com/Zeus

and you can find the rest there

I don't think it's worth spamming the channel with 10 links ;)

[indigo canopy]

hm, i have done all the requirements for a couple ||favours||, so now i wait for an rngesus convo?

[tiny grove]

if you have done all the requirements, that is correct

pray to RNGesus daily

and nightly

my young prince

have some nectar to smooth it over

[indigo canopy]

ive maxed out nectar

showered them in it

[slender monolith]

https://twitter.com/indieworldna/status/1321844897117282305?s=21

This art is CUTE

[quasi mauve]

@quasi mauve Yes, you can only get each boss reward once per weapon to start off (there are ways to get more that unlock once you beat the final boss one time)
@hexed trail thank you so much

[wind nest]

Whoever said you can fated-authority reroll for a charon shop, you cannot

charon shop either appears or it doesn't

[spare ridge]

and likewise you can’t reroll charon

[oak shore]

Charon and endbosses are the things that can't be rerolled, right?

[lone flame]

I have a question but it’s a spoiler. How do I spoiler tag?

@oak shore yes

[brisk trail]

|| on both ends

[lone flame]

||Test||

Ok cool ty

||How do you make Than appear? I’ve met and defeated all the furies. I’ve gotten to Elysium a few times, maybe to the boss half a dozen. Is there a certain condition I need to do?||

[wind nest]

That should be enough conditions, but he doesn't appear every run at all. His chance of spawning is pretty low and he won't spawn for the first 5 rooms of a run

You're probably just unlucky

[lone flame]

Damn. I’ll keep searching for my husbando. Ty

[oak shore]

I believe he's also more likely to spawn when you've ||taken a bunch of damage|| but that may be conjecture

[left idol]

It’s on sale eshop!!!!!!!!! Hades

[oak shore]

I know anecdotally he's much more likely to show up for me if I'm ||on low health||

[left idol]

I just got it hope it’s good

[oak shore]

What, Hades?

[wind nest]

In the lua scripting, everything goes to a master "checkRequirements" function, and I doubt health is one of those requirements

[oak shore]

If it helps, Strawhat, I think it took me til after I'd beat the final boss once before I started seeing them, and that was on my fifth or sixth try at fighting them

So you're roughly on track there ^^

[wind nest]

Ok I'm looking in the encounterdata now

[indigo canopy]

@brisk trail why

[quasi mauve]

i like the game tho

[wind nest]

||For thanatos to spawn in Elysium, you need to have seen one of the other fury sisters, you need to be at least 3 rooms deep||

||For thanatos to spawn in Tartarus, you need to have seen him in elysium once, and be at least 9 rooms deep||

||For thanatos to spawn in asphodel, you need to have seen him in elysium once, and be at least 2 rooms deep||

Those are all the requirements I think the big one you need to check is ||seeing alecto or tristophene for the first time||

@lone flame

[austere jacinth]

Oh, and you can't be at max health.

[wind nest]

No that's not a requirement lol

[gusty slate]

You need to take damage at least in that run

Or that's what I thought

[austere jacinth]

Yeah, you do.

At least, that's what I thought too xDD

[wind nest]

I'm not seeing that in the lua scripts

why do we think this?

[gusty slate]

Well, it was on the wiki pre-1.0, but also if we're not taking damage Than shouldn't need to take time to help us as we're not 'struggling'

but beats me

[wind nest]

Ah ok. I know the wiki is wrong about a few things

I think it's wrong here too

[gusty slate]

could be

[wind nest]

There's this line in the encounter data for thanatos MaxTimeSincePlayerDamage = 5. However that's not a requirement parameter

[lapis harbor]

did we get switch cross saves yet?

[gusty slate]

#announcements say it's being pushed back for cross-saves

[wind nest]

The requirement parameters are things like this for ThanatosTartarus:
RequiredAnyEncounterCompleted = {"ThanatosElysium","ThanatosElysiumIntro"},RequiredMinCompletedRuns = 1, RequiredMinBiomeDepth = 3

[lapis harbor]

I heard it was pushed back, was wondering if it's happened yet...considering double dipping even though I have all the achievment haha

[lone flame]

@wind nest thanks for the detailed response!

[austere jacinth]

Yeah, dude. Nice work.

[wind nest]

So I could see someone reading that line and mis-interpreting it as "do 5 rooms but take no damage", but the schema of the data tries to make all requirement data prefixed by "required"

[gusty slate]

Makes sense to not lock you out of Than for being good at dodging

[austere jacinth]

Also, PaulG. I don't know if SGG have even said there will be cross saves.

[wind nest]

That parameter is actually a catch parameter for determining who killed the enemy

If the game is unsure who killed the enemy, than or zag, if zag has tagged that enemy in the last 5 seconds, it assumes it's zag's kill (weirdly).

[lapis harbor]

they have, Stranger

they said October, but looks like that wa too ambitious, it's in announcements! thanks!

[gusty slate]

idk how the cross-saves will work however

but they'll let us know when they're ready xD

[austere jacinth]

Yeah, they deserve a rest.

[tepid plover]

Who tf came up with the idea that you need to take dmg to see than 🤣🤣🤣

I hear that so often 🤣

So ridiculous

[wind nest]

I think it came from a misreading of the lua script

[austere jacinth]

I'm not sure, I've heard it and it sounded legit. So I guess people just passed it on?

And that makes sense, Basketball.

[gusty slate]

Possibly, dunno

[tepid plover]

I see people dying on twitch just to see than, im like uhhh yojre throwing your run for no reason buddy

[austere jacinth]

The thirst is real.

[indigo canopy]

eboy hair > dubs

[gusty slate]

Hades' stache game is pretty real though

[molten acorn]

what’s the best way to defeat thanatos? i swear he stays stealing my kills 🙄 like babe stop

[gusty slate]

In Elysium I let him kill the peeps and i go for the floating eyes

I really just go for the easiest enemies xD

Knocking people away from his circle of doom

[molten acorn]

Knocking people away from his circle of doom
@gusty slate oooh i didn’t think of this before let me equip smth that will help

[gusty slate]

I kite or knock away, I think Than is less aggressive when his circle is up?

[molten acorn]

i get so distracted by him that i blink and he’s gone 💀

tysm for the advice poke

[gusty slate]

I also am a ruthless kill stealer so there's that

[molten acorn]

as you should

[austere jacinth]

Than sometimes grumbles at me about the kill stealing xDD

[gusty slate]

Yep, makes it just more satisfying

[austere jacinth]

I'd say poor Than, but I don't think he minds overmuch.

[void vigil]

if he kills the shades in elysium now the floating eyes wont pop out, so elysium encounters are much harder

[gusty slate]

00f my cheese

[exotic basalt]

However the death debuff Than puts on his targets is seemingly dispelled if you pop their eyes out

[astral swift]

tfw the one time you see them in the House of Hades, they're talking to Meg

[exotic basalt]

So it sort of works both ways I suppose

[indigo canopy]

POG |||unlocked thans gauge now i can woo him||

[austere jacinth]

Congrats!

[raven lava]

so question
is there a way to buy licensed merch versions of the little "bond forged" stickers?

[static tartan]

Is there a feedback channel?

[real fossil]

same question

theyre so cute

[grand barn]

Hi sweethearts, I have a question or a suggestion for the team, do you know where you can ask them so they will see?

[static tartan]

I want to whine about the guan yu attack buffering change

[gusty slate]

feedback channel archived

test branch changes maybe?

[austere jacinth]

I would cover the world in those stickers, would that I could xD

[grand barn]

It’s not really for the tech, it’s about storyline stuff. I’d like some more interactions

[gusty slate]

For now just bug and balance changes, gotta wait and see if they will work on hades more

[brisk trail]

At what point are you considered not a new player

Seeing as there is a channel for new players

Like, after killing hades for the first time?

[gusty slate]

I guess when you can beat up redacted a bunch, reach ending? dunno

[austere jacinth]

Idk? I think it's more for people who are going through the game for the first (few?) times.

[grand barn]

They have a channel “ask-supergiant” and I wonder where do you ask so it can be answered on that channel. It not written anywhere. Not in faq, not in that channel

[gusty slate]

might be archived now too hmmm

email to them directly perhaps?

[grand barn]

Idk I’d say you’re new player till you get at least once to the final boss. You can be good and first two bosses but you have problem with the 3rd and final one so they give you tips? IMO

[brisk trail]

Alright then i guess im not a new player

[grand barn]

Hmmm email...I’m gonna look for their mail and see if it works

[gusty slate]

when one can consistently clear is a decent point aye

I mean, I still hang around there

[brisk trail]

I dont really have a way of checking how long ive been playing but im on around my 60th run

And ive beaten mr big bad 8 times

[unkempt sleet]

Honestly right now it's better to wait and sit on suggestions

Thry said they would take a break before deciding what to do next so I would wait until we get an announcement

[grand barn]

I see

[austere jacinth]

Lots of folks have thrown around fun suggestions in here and elsewhere, but I think it's more for the fun of discussing them.

[dusk mantle]

Gilgamesh is still terrible. Feels like you have glue stuck on your feet. Oh well, had a nice run.

[gusty slate]

It's something

[austere jacinth]

I love it. It does feel very different though

[alpine fulcrum]

oh huh ||em1 isnt all the furies every time||

[tiny grove]

they try to keep things varied

helps prevent endgame getting super stale

[brisk trail]

I wonder what happens if you beat mr big bad on your first run

[obtuse zephyr]

Poseidon, you watery tart! Give me your damn legendary!!

[novel shell]

Isn't your first run 2x harder

so it'd be like impossible

[obtuse zephyr]

His is the only one I'm missing for the prophecy but every time I'm eligible he refuses to cough it up

[sacred mulch]

I'm playing on switch and the last several runs, no matter how quickly I respond in the fishing game, it says too late... I doubt I'm doing anything wrong (and have a clip I can share)

[robust sundial]

are you hitting the button when there's fireworks ?

the bobber may fake-bob up to three times

true-bob is when you get sparkles.

[wise stratus]

Do you have the fishing rod yet?

@sacred mulch

[sacred mulch]

yes... I've caught many many fish

Don't know if links are ok to share here.. but: https://clips.twitch.tv/SpicyInquisitiveMallardPeoplesChamp

[obtuse zephyr]

Might be a higher delay between your controller and console

[brisk trail]

No that cant be it

The timing is much longer

[wise stratus]

Has there been an update that might've broken it?

[brisk trail]

And hes doing it in time

Atleast not on the switch

Ive never had any issues

[sacred mulch]

yeah, nothing really changed... and every fish seems to be broken... the game has been suspended on my switch for a week or so.. maybe I'll restart it and give it another shot

but thanks.. there's no noticeable input lag on controls so I just wanted to make sure it wasn't me and

[wise stratus]

and it's consistent?

[sacred mulch]

yeah, haven't caught a fish on my last 3 or 4 runs (about 6-7 chances). I probably caught about 35-40 fish and was only missed a couple times since i noticed what to look for

and when it isn't on the first 3 bobs.. I've tried to anticipate the 4th one and if i'm not too early.. I get too late

I was thinking that maybe there's a chance to fail and I was having a very very bad run of luck

[mellow pumice]

what's the difference between increased rarity and increased level? i'm torn between ambrosia delight and pom porridge.. like, better rarity just increases the stats too

[sacred mulch]

They increase different stats

The rarity will affect the stat that's in the description.. the level will adjust the one in the bottom part

[mellow pumice]

right now i have lightning strike level 3 on "normal" rarity. it does 17 damage.

[exotic basalt]

Rarity also starts out as a better bottom part generally

[sacred mulch]

so like.. a common boon might make you crit 10% more often... rare could be 15% and epic 20%, while adding 80% damage... leveling it up will increase it to 88% damage

[mellow pumice]

if it is affected by ambrosia delight, it would become rare

[exotic basalt]

Like upgrading a common boon to a rare (while at level 1) is pretty much the same as giving it another level

[mellow pumice]

pom porridge would make it level 4

@sacred mulch im pretty sure artemis always has 15% crit chance on deadly strike and 20% on deadly flourish

be it normal or heroic

it's probably just the pom scaling that differs with rarity

and the level 1 stat of course, like, Normal festive fog does 100 damage, Epic does 160

[sacred mulch]

oh.. I was just making up numbers as an example...

[exotic basalt]

Yeah higher level boons scale a bit better with poms

[late shard]

welp, after 65 hours, I'm done with all the achievements

[carmine ravine]

ppl tend to take ambrosia delight to rarify their core boons, but failed to realize getting increased rarity for your next 3 boons is better since its increased chance for duo and legendaries

[exotic basalt]

I think it depends a bit on where you are in your build

[mellow pumice]

i only have 4 boons that can gain levels at all so pom porridge seems "effective"

but three of those are only at Normal rarity so i'm

it doesnt even matter to overthink because it's a good run anyway

i'm just nitpicking

[exotic basalt]

As I said, if a boon is at level 1 or 2, giving it another level is pretty similar to upgrading rarity in terms of power gain

[deft shell]

Rarity just gives it better base damage numbers. I dont think the crit is affected.
Artemis attack is always 15% crit chance. Higher rarity just increases the damage, so common is 20% damage increase, epic is like 35% or something

[carmine ravine]

i just level up my boons in styx by the poms there, side hustle and ||pom flower||

[sacred mulch]

well, you always get her in Asphodel, so usually there's a couple initial boons and usually many more to come. In earlier runs when I didn't think I had a chance at living long enough to get more boons, I'd upgrade rarity or level depending on what I had

[mellow pumice]

yea i have that keepsake on too

[exotic basalt]

Could be argued that upgrading rarity allows you to scale better from later poms though, but up to you if you wish to take that gamble

[carmine ravine]

well, you always get her in Asphodel, so usually there's a couple initial boons and usually many more to come. In earlier runs when I didn't think I had a chance at living long enough to get more boons, I'd upgrade rarity or level depending on what I had
@sacred mulch u dont always get her in asphodel

[mellow pumice]

maybe i'll get ||rare crop|| anyway lol

@carmine ravine they meant if you get her, its in asphodel, i think

[sacred mulch]

I mean.. you won't get her in Tartarus or Elysium... unless there's something I'm unaware of (and don't want spoiled)

[carmine ravine]

phrasing i guess

[deft shell]

Yeah, she if she shows up its in asphodel, but she not guaranteed to show up

[carmine ravine]

its pretty obvious that shes only in asphodel, no need to reiterate that in the first place

[sacred mulch]

yeah.. If you see her, it's in Asphodel. That's way more precise language. How far that is into your run is dependent on how far you usually get

my point is.. if you struggle to get past the Asphodel boss, upgrading your next 3 boons is not all that helpful

[carmine ravine]

except it does? since lernie is pretty much crowd control and dont have much gimmick than normal mobs

[mellow pumice]

its not guaranteed you'll even get 3 more boons

in fact she could be right before the boss

your best chance is one more boon from charon

so if you want to make it past the boss there, you may want something that instantly helps

[sacred mulch]

You might not get 3 boons between Eurydice and the Boss... so, upgrading existing things might be better. It comes down to the player's ability at that point so there's no point in debating it. That said, I almost always take the next 3 upgrades

[carmine ravine]

my point is lernie itself is just normal mobs, if u are not struggling with normal rooms, u will hardly struggle with lernie

[sacred mulch]

you don't know that they aren't struggling there

[carmine ravine]

what

[sacred mulch]

it may be easy for you, but I wouldn't assume that everyone has mastered it already

and with that, I'll take my leave... I'm pretty sure we all agree here. ✌️

[carmine ravine]

i say, if u reached her in the first place, u might already survived the rooms

[sacred mulch]

shrug the first few times I got to her, I had similar questions about which to take and i had half health on my last life.

[indigo canopy]

is there repercussions for ||maxing out affinity with either than, meg or dusa before the other two||? relationships wise

[brisk trail]

nope

[austere jacinth]

Not really. ||If you max Meg before Than, Than will comment on Meg's involvement with Zag, and the reverse is true if you max Than before Meg. So you'll miss a little dialogue either way.||

[indigo canopy]

well ||meg is taking her sweet time in unlocking her affinity gauge so than my boy here i come||

[brisk trail]

that's not much tho? I mean, you can still ||date both, no locking out or somthing like that||

[robust sundial]

there's a patch today ?

[lunar cypress]

I've been getting like 2/3 patches a day for the last couple

[barren ocean]

Bug fixes mostly I'd assume

[night rapids]

when are we getting an axe with a norse myth legendary aspect?

or hammer

[rare obsidian]

Can you trigger the ||Charon fight|| in any run? I think I've only ever seen the trigger once

[night rapids]

how do i put spoiler tags

[gusty slate]

@rare obsidian Yeah, only in ||mid-biome shops|| it's rng

|| on both sides of your message for spoiler tags

alternatively can highlight message and a popup will appear

[night rapids]

test

no workey

||test||

it workey thank you @gusty slate

[quasi olive]

Hi everyone, quick question: ||once you buy a theme for the House of Hades, is it possible to revert to other themes, or the regular one, without having to pay again||?

[brisk trail]

Yes

[quasi olive]

That's what I thought, but I figured I'd ask. ^^
Thanks a lot! <3

[somber patio]

I have a question to the veterans of the game.

If I upgrade my weapons but don’t reach the final boss what happens to the Titans blood? Can I rerun till I get to the top boss and still get them or are they lost for that level of the weapon?

[exotic girder]

you can rerun

||so if you get the first blood but not the second, you can get the second if you rerun but not the first again||

[fair sparrow]

Do you talk about the blood you spent to improve the aspects or the rewards you get when you increase the heat ?

Either way they are not lost

[exotic girder]

once you spend the blood to upgrade you can't get that blood back i don't think

[gusty slate]

Only when using Give Up is when your save reverts back to courtyard save before spending blood. I suppose crashing/alt-f4 works too

If you die or clear, it will do a 'hard' save and your blood is committed

[somber patio]

Well the question was when I did a run with my weapon at a level and didn’t manage to get to the final boss but I keep leveling up my weapon was that final Titans blood lost for previous weapon levels of the final boss. But zealot answered that, I believe.

[exotic girder]

weapon upgrade level and rewards aren't linked

[vernal obsidian]

Can you stagger doom like you can wit chill/hangover ?

[somber patio]

Oh! So it’s only heat then?

[gusty slate]

You can stack doom with another boon

but otherwise it only resets the doom I think

[exotic girder]

there's a boon that lets you kind of stack doom

[pure barn]

Hey, you know once you've unlocked ||all weapons|| how do you get the ||bottom aspect, the fourth one||

[gusty slate]

There's specific pre-reqs, need to check pins in #h1-story-discussion

[sudden dock]

That ||Lucifer laser rifle|| is kinda disappointing. Stacks wine and ice well, but it cannot destroy enemy projectiles. I will be using Zagreus rifle for heat 8...

[gusty slate]

I like using landmines

[sudden dock]

I keep shooting them when no enemies about. BAD!

[exotic girder]

do damage boosts stack additively or multiplicatively?

[gusty slate]

thought additive

[dark scroll]

20% and 30% coins gets you 100 -> 150

So damage same then I guess.

[brisk trellis]

bruh what are u talking about laser rifles

i only got a sword shield bow and another wep

[dark scroll]

Keep playing. 🙂

[brisk trellis]

ok!

My best was to fight against some animal and god in the chaos area

I died there like 10 times haha

[dark scroll]

Well that happens the first few times, expect to die more later. ;p

[brisk trellis]

haha ok L:

what can i do with the boss drops?

the diamond and the red blood glass

[dark scroll]

Again, keep playing. Most stuff willl unlock and show itself soon enough.

I can say it right now if you really want too, not a big thing actually but still.

[brisk trellis]

OK ty for the info

[dark scroll]

You will want a lot of the stuff. ;p

I'm almost at 100 runs and I still need more.

[indigo canopy]

youll still need it after 200 runs

[dark scroll]

blood included?

[gusty slate]

never enough

[dark scroll]

BLOOD FOR THE BLOODGOD!

[gusty slate]

always need moar

[exotic girder]

does anyone know base distribution of different boon rarities?