h1-discussion

[queen wharf]

Have you ever seen it in the fountain room before the area?

[tawdry flower]

Like the purple things? Or Charon rooms?

[queen wharf]

The room with keepsakes, fountain, red and purple shops

[tawdry flower]

Can’t say offhand if I’ve seen it in the passage room after Hydra.

But I’ve definitely seen it a bunch in Elysium purple shops

[queen wharf]

Right, of course. Thanks.

[wary brook]

just finished the game and i love it

is it just me or am i the only one who wants more?

[tawdry flower]

Finished a run, reached credits, or ||seen the epilogue||?

[queen wharf]

Like are you actually done? How many ||successful escape attempts do you have||

[wary brook]

just 1 still

[queen wharf]

Oh you are far from done

[wary brook]

there's credits and || epilogue|| ?

[queen wharf]

There's a lot more plot and content

Yeah

[carmine ravine]

yes

[wary brook]

yea the plot's really interesting

May I ask || how many successful escape attempts do I need to make to reach the end? ||

[tawdry flower]

You need ||10|| for credits

And a variable amount depending on how you played so far past that

[queen wharf]

Yeah so don't worry. If you want more, there's plenty there.

[wary brook]

well im planning to play more so that's that

[tawdry flower]

There’s even conversations that only unlock after ||the epilogue||

[wary brook]

[tawdry flower]

||Hades boss fight|| is generally considered spoilers in the discord

Please edit

[carmine ravine]

u need to censor the name

[zealous flare]

Yeah, there's a lot more game.

[wary brook]

ok ok mb

[distant totem]

since I got the game I've seen ppl saying "rouge-like" so much

maybe the most annoying misspelling I can think of

[subtle plaza]

I got legendary in first chamber

is that rare

[distant totem]

was it from ||poseidon? I think that's scripted||

[subtle plaza]

yeah it was

[sharp fossil]

a “rouge-like” game is presumably a purple or orange one

[distant totem]

normally you need pre-requisite boons for legendaries, so you can't get them in chamber 1

[sharp fossil]

red adjacent

[subtle plaza]

oh

[distant totem]

well there is a lot of reddish colors in hades I guess

[sharp fossil]

hmm true

it’s rouge-like and roguelike

they should put that in the marketing

[zealous flare]

That poseidon run was very funny to me because i immediately died to ||secret boss||

[distant totem]

nooo don't enable the rouge-likers

[zealous flare]

Like a few chambers later

[north ocean]

I thought that legendary was bugged, I tried so hard to get it and it never appeared, then ||poseidon just pops up and goes hey take this for free||

[distant totem]

oh you mean secret boss ||charon||?

[zealous flare]

||yes||

[distant totem]

I got absolutely destroyed the first time I ran into them lol

[zealous flare]

Yep

I had my 3 death defies and within 30 seconds it was just ah yknow what take it all

[sharp fossil]

few people win the first time with that fight lmao

[north ocean]

favorite part of the encounter is the ||record scratch when you "accidentally" grab his money||

[sharp fossil]

it’s a bit out of nowhere

[distant totem]

thought it was a joke fight you weren't supposed to win at first, turns out you should prob just not fight them ||in tartarus with no build||

[zealous flare]

I havent actually tried that a second time because i dont want to ruin my streak from it

Its so rare you can even attempt it though honestly

[sharp fossil]

eh, it’s not actually too bad in tartarus

[zealous flare]

He doesnt leave it out much

[sharp fossil]

they’re actually waaay more predictable than any other boss once you get the hang of them

they just ||do a stonk of damage||

[north ocean]

Since I never take ||mid-region shops|| I wasn't even aware it existed, but when you see it it's obvious something is going to go wrong if you do it

[distant totem]

I've only had two attempts since the first time but I'm 2 for 2 so you're prob right

the huge ||lightsaber attack|| is very panic inducing the first time you see it though

[north ocean]

||life bar goes poof||

[sharp fossil]

oh absolutely lol

[rough atlas]

i think it's so cool how chaos commentates on your run when you use chaos shield

do any other aspects in the game do this

[tawdry flower]

Yup. Try using any named weapon when talking to or fighting the person they’re named after

Or all 4th aspects against Final Boss

Elysium bosses discussing your fist weapons is ||part of the method to unlock 4th fist||

[rough atlas]

i meant the little voice lines that come in at random times, like sometimes chaos will say "Ruination." if i absolutely own a whole room, or "This one, then?" when I reroll

[tawdry flower]

I don’t play with volume loud enough to hear stuff like that outside of cutscenes

[left pine]

Is there a feedback / suggestions channel here somewhere? Just got here and I might be blind or is it under another name?

nvm just found it being mentioned in announcements

[brisk trail]

Just beat Heat 8 for the first time, and ||all I got is that Skelly statue? Gotta agree with Zagreus in-game, not sure how to feel abt this|| 😅 😅

[lofty dragon]

Don't worry the last one is a worthy prize

[brisk trail]

Last one requires.... 32 heat, I presume?

Oh my

[lofty dragon]

It's a tough one

[brisk trail]

Also, got 9 achievements left. ||Charon's a tough one, and been avoiding him since he beat me twice effortlessly||

[sharp fossil]

the last skelly prize is glorious

[lofty dragon]

He does a lot of damage but the attacks are simple and easy to avoid

[sharp fossil]

||its another, shinier skelly statue||

You can have a much easier time with ||charon|| if you wait to face him until Elysium when your build is more together

[fringe osprey]

The easiest way to beat him is to just keep fighting him until you have his moveset memorized

So, fight him every time you see him B)

[sharp fossil]

honestly yeah

[lofty dragon]

Divine dash also helps a lot

[cloud apex]

Yup. You'd probably get wooped a lot but it's a good long term investment

[sharp fossil]

he’s much simpler than other bosses, so it’s mostly about learning his move set

[fringe osprey]

Pretty sure DD || Doesn't reflect any of the purple stuff that Charon throws at you, you still have to time your dashes through it, or take cover. ||

[sharp fossil]

which takes a few tries, sadly

[lofty dragon]

||it deflects the wave he shoots from his hand||

[cloud apex]

Divine dash only helps to get ||some chonky deflect damage from oar swings||

400 is no joke

[lofty dragon]

Also helps prevent damage, not only deflect

[fringe osprey]

Pfff, timing DD for melee effects takes too much mental effort

I just want to swing wildly with a high DPS build and avoid just enough damage to not die

[sharp fossil]

i-framing the ||oar swings|| with dashes is the easiest way to avoid them, imo

[cloud apex]

I mean, if you swing wildly with a high DPS build you kind of have to time melee deflects

[sharp fossil]

the alternative is moving a ridiculous distance out of the way, which is annoying and impractical

but that i-framing works with or without DD

[fringe osprey]

Can't be hit with a melee attack if you're standing behind the target

Furiously Ignores AoE Melee Attacks

[cloud apex]

Hey, that's also fair

[dusk mantle]

I faced || Charon || once and got destroyed like crazy lol, never again dared try it despite many opportunities. Need to try it again one of these days.

[fringe osprey]

I got destroyed by him too the first time I fought him. Now I beat him every time, even || If I'm fighting him in Tartarus with one or two boons, as long as I don't get impatient or lazy ||

[lofty dragon]

I almost always fight him in tartarus

[brisk trail]

somehow managed to beat ||charon|| the first time i tried it, but the fight used up all my death defiances and killed the run

[lofty dragon]

Usually goes well enough

[forest eagle]

Yeah I lost all my death defiances and then he throws me straight into an elite room

[lofty dragon]

Yea it costs some deaths but you can then buy them back and more at a discount

[maiden copper]

I only go for him if I already have a good damage boon, otherwise I'm just too impatient to shave his health down

[onyx shadow]

If you get a duo boon then sell one of the pre req boons for duo, does the duo boom stop working?

[maiden copper]

No, it won't stop working

The only case where it would stop working is if it's dependent on another boon's effects

[north ocean]

Is there a way to know which boons can get pom'd and which can't? Can non-pom boons get upgraded to ||heroic|| ?

[forest eagle]

Using poms doesnt increase rarity

It increases level

[dusty spade]

every boons that are not ||lengedary or duo|| can get to that rarity

for the non-pom boon i think you will have to go to wiki, that isn mention anywhere in the game

[north ocean]

I know it only increases level, but some boons don't have a level

Just checking as well for rarity, since those aren't boons you can ||trade|| for rarity upgrades

[forest eagle]

ah right

[dusty spade]

the only boon you can ||trade|| for are the one in the big slots i think

like the ones that appear on the left right away without opening the whole list

[forest eagle]

I think ones like sweet nectar can be upgraded either in level or in rarity

[fresh steppe]

i think that would go into builds and combat

[tawdry flower]

#h1-builds-and-combat

[winged bear]

is there any discussion/knowledge/channel around data-mining and that sort of information?

[flat vapor]

data-mined info isn't allowed here

[tame sigil]

just saw that mb

[flat vapor]

you could check out #self-promotion for a link to the hades modding server, which allows datamined content

[winged bear]

oh, I didn't know there was a modding scene

thanks for the direction

[flat vapor]

https://discord.gg/KuMbyrN

[weary ice]

I play on switch, and there's a greyed-out menu option that says "Cross-Saves." When that does come in the future to support switch, will that allow me to get steam achievements for things I've already done on the switch?

[sick pumice]

i am playing the gun, and got the 5 way bomb, is that a good move or no?

[merry moat]

do any other aspects in the game do this
@rough atlas

There's some interesting interactions on Sword's hidden aspect

[blazing narwhal]

data-mined info isn't allowed here
Oe

almost got myself banned

[rough atlas]

wait really? i use that one all the time and haven't seen anything like there is for chaos

[merry moat]

Redacted and Zag talk a little about this ||future king called Arthur||

[rough atlas]

yeah that's the same for all hidden aspects

[void vigil]

we won’t ban you for discussion of data mining, @blazing narwhal, we just delete the message with a reminder it’s not allowed

[merry moat]

||Hades tells that he doesn't know who this is but will be certaintly a fool or something like that||

[blazing narwhal]

Ah

mercy

[merry moat]

I'll use it more to see if there's any more than that

[flat vapor]

what would an sgg server be if there wasn't any mercy

[merry moat]

That makes me think if Supergiant have any plans to make a game about ||Arturian Legends||

[tawdry flower]

The next 6 themes for supergiant confirmed?

[blazing narwhal]

Datamining tells me something real big about Achilles, but I can't really mention it here I guess then 🤷

[forest eagle]

ooh thats the no no word

[vernal obsidian]

why cant i have two keepsakers ?

[forest eagle]

He doesnt have much pocket space

[edgy nimbus]

zag doesnt even have pockets he keeps the keepsake clenched between his teeth

[forest eagle]

idk how collar increases his health then thats gotta hurt

[sharp fossil]

it’s good for morale

[marble prism]

||We know what he's into with meg||

[sharp fossil]

the thought of cerberus makes him fight longer

lol

[forest eagle]

slowly take collar out of his mouth

carefully inserts a new tooth

its gaming time

[edgy nimbus]

dying might knock out a tooth, thats why skelly has you covered with a spare

[forest eagle]

... so Athenas just out there throwing high quality teeth at you?

[sharp fossil]

wait wait wait

DDs are teeth?

[robust sundial]

@blazing narwhal there's always PMs to tell me about this Achilles stuff

[merry moat]

Do we lose hp by unequipping the collar?

[forest eagle]

yeah you do

[sharp fossil]

so i have the option to start with either 3 teeth, or one tooth that regenerates

[forest eagle]

SHARK MODE

[sharp fossil]

c’mon, zag, ever heard of dental hygiene?

looks up how many teeth humans have

[forest eagle]

I mean have you ever seen him spend his obol on toothpaste?

[sharp fossil]

man this game would be easier with 32 DDs

[forest eagle]

The mans got a mirror that just pulls his teeth out if he looks at it funny

[void vigil]

you used to be able to get as many DDs as you could, but they would be consumed upon use and couldnt be replenished

[sharp fossil]

... just like real teeth

[void vigil]

i think my record was 9 at once, 10 total in a run

[flat vapor]

ah those days

[void vigil]

oh yes, i love consuming teeth

[sharp fossil]

delicious

[flat vapor]

when you could buy a kiss from the well, take athena twice, and walk in with 6 buffed DDs

[sharp fossil]

lmao

that’s ridiculous

[robust sundial]

I think someone (ohokwy not to name him/her/they) awoke a new obsession

[marble prism]

Wait you could buy extra DDs?

lmao

[forest eagle]

Was that back in the epic days?

[flat vapor]

pre-nighty night i think

[sharp fossil]

yup DDs are teeth now

no backsies

[void vigil]

those were the days

[forest eagle]

ah that looks nice and balanced

[flat vapor]

very

[sharp fossil]

seems fair and reasonable

could you get so many they went off screen?

[flat vapor]

there were some complaints when the 3 max was set, but overall it was very healthy for the game

[forest eagle]

Am I misremembering btw or did there used to be a 3 dash standard from the mirror?

[void vigil]

off screen?? probably not, i dont know if the game is long enough for that. off the healthbar? yes

[forest eagle]

I swear I used to be able to zoom more than I do now by default

[sharp fossil]

lol

[flat vapor]

before the dash rework, there were 3 dashes

...but the rework was like, even before the steam early access release

[sharp fossil]

3 is a weird number

i’m only just getting the hang of actually using greatest reflex when i get it

my muscle memory still think i only have 2 lol

[flat vapor]

bloodstone mirror upgrade used to go up to 6 stones

[sharp fossil]

😮

[marble prism]

Man I missed out

Should have got the game sooner lol

[forest eagle]

hmm I only started when it was on steam

odd

[void vigil]

shield had innate deflect...

[sharp fossil]

seems like they cleared out all the broken fun stuff before the steam release, when i started

[flat vapor]

this is all like, the first 3 updates of early access lol

very early 2019 type stuff

[sharp fossil]

i actually only heard about this game when the steam release happened

which is super weird

because apparently it had been around for like a year beforehand?

[forest eagle]

I heard really early on but then promptly forgot for a good while

[marble prism]

Same, I think I saw when it went EA on steam

[flat vapor]

i got the game real early in december 2018

[marble prism]

Oh it went EA on steam december 19

So maybe not that early

Wish I'd gotten it when I saw it then though lol

[forest eagle]

I'm assuming exclusivity deal there huh

[flat vapor]

there's a lot of history that not many here know about lol

(but really you could just scroll up patch-notes and read it)

[vernal obsidian]

cant you upgrade it ?

[marble prism]

Keepsakes?

[vernal obsidian]

yep

no his pockets

[marble prism]

They level up after using them in 25//50 encounters

[surreal birch]

hey, does anyone know if there's a place to report bugs in hades? i had a humourous though perhaps problematic bug earlier i figured was worth reporting

[forest eagle]

The man knows his style

[vernal obsidian]

try tech fix

[forest eagle]

f10 in game when you see it

[flat vapor]

if you're on pc, press f10 in game

[marble prism]

On steam ingame f10 reports bugs, not sure about the server

[flat vapor]

i'm not sure about switch though

[surreal birch]

oh i had no clue! unfortunate, i had to close the game to fix the issue, looks like i cant attach images of it to the steam bug report

oh well! thanks for the help!

[forest eagle]

Yeah I checked theres no reporting on macOS or switch apparently

[robust sundial]

is there a way to see your total damage for strike, special, cast and others ? Because I can have for example a +27% from Athena, a +46% from Chaos and so on and so forth... But how is the final damage calculated btw ?

[flat vapor]

https://hades.gamepedia.com/Damage_Calculation

[marble prism]

Almost all sources of bonus damage are additive

[hazy patrol]

does anyone know how much ambrosia you need to complete the epilogue, or more to the point, how much can i trade in for titan blood? I have Shady maxed and have not given any to gods yet, just sisyphus and dusa

[forest eagle]

most gods are one

[hazy patrol]

thank you that's super helpful

[forest eagle]

a fair few are 2-3

[barren ocean]

ma boi hypnos being featured house servant

[forest eagle]

and then theres one where I think its 10 or something but you can get it back afterwards

[hazy patrol]

ok, so ballpark 2 per god to be safe

im not super worried about getting more, seems like there are lots of ways, im justing sitting on like 20 right now

[forest eagle]

yeah you'll be fine but I would be wary trading it away

at least for now

[hazy patrol]

blood still seems like the hungriest resource, no?

[forest eagle]

Yeah I'd agree with that

It's the last one I still need and whoo boy do I need a lot

[hazy patrol]

yea rough calc is like 260 blood to unlock all the aspects to full

[forest eagle]

unless you want all the music in which case diamonds get scarce fast

[hazy patrol]

haha yea i noticed that 🙂

[north ocean]

Why is that, in the music player, ||Good Riddance|| shows as ???????, unlike all other ones where you see their name? I know it's this one, that's the one song I haven't bought yet.

[void vigil]

to avoid spoilers until you have the song, i assume

all of the other spoiler songs are like this as well

[north ocean]

Makes no sense, ||Eurydice sings it all the time, and now even Orpheus||. I've heard it plenty of times

[void vigil]

thats why you have it available for purchase

[north ocean]

Yep, but it's still ???? in the player. Unlike others where I'd see the names as soon as the shop had them

[void vigil]

i thought its intended since theyre spoiler songs, but maybe its a bug? i dont know

[north ocean]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[void vigil]

its the same with songs like ||god of the dead, on the coast|| etc

[north ocean]

Welp, it shows up just fine once it's bought, good enough

[brisk trail]

All other fishes completed, but never found the 2nd and 3rd fishes of Chaos. RNG be wildin'

[north ocean]

They're sure very elusive. Stars need to align to even get to fish there

[brisk trail]

How many virgins do I have to sacrifice to gods to get them.

Eh wait, just checked my Codex again... 2 Chaos fishes & 1 rarest ||last area|| fish

[lofty dragon]

I'm sure Zeus would appreciate the virgins but I don't think he has power over the chaos real.

[tawdry flower]

Make sure you get all the ||last area|| fish before ||credits|| or it gets a LOT harder

[north ocean]

Yep, I get why they did that, but I wish it was optional

[tawdry flower]

Mhm. I miss the ||sunrise||

Most beautiful thing I’ve seen in a game in years

[brisk trail]

@tawdry flower oof, already got ||credits|| dozens of runs ago >_>

[north ocean]

tbf, you can't really do much about that

[tawdry flower]

I’m at 2/3 of the ||chaos|| fish and then I’ll be wrapping up my collection

You just need good luck and some planning in Styx to ensure you get some at the redacted fight

[brisk trail]

In other hand, even rare fishes in 1st and 3rd regions are easier to get

Have caught ||Scyllascions & Seamares handful of times||

RNGod be like, "get rekt"

[north ocean]

Just missing a couple of the rarest ||chaos|| fish, I love the little relax it brings

[idle ingot]

how do you actually get the fishing sections to appear more frequently or have rarer fish. I use them every time they show up. Which is often only 1-3 rooms in a run. And I get the same 5 fish over and over

[north ocean]

Fishing chance: ||poseidon legendary boon||
Rarer fish: good timing

[tawdry flower]

The fishing spots need to be at least 10 rooms apart, and even then has a low chance of showing up

[idle ingot]

oh timing effects fish rarity?

[tawdry flower]

You can also buy something from the shop to make the next available room have fish

[idle ingot]

yeah I've gotten both the shop item and the boon when they show up too. I just haven't seen them often

[tawdry flower]

If you get a catch ( .34 or more seconds), you will have a 5% for medium rarity fish or 95% for common. If you get a perfect catch ( < 0.34 seconds), it’s 5% for highest rarity, 95% for medium

[idle ingot]

I don't have the reflexes for a perfect catch. So I guess I just gotta hope I get lucky and play a LOT of runs

[tawdry flower]

You get used to how the fishing works. If it goes over a second without bobbing, the next thing will be a bob not a bite

[idle ingot]

I usually use the sound cues

[brisk trail]

Same

[tawdry flower]

That impacts your reaction time as sound is slower than light

[north ocean]

Small tip for fishing, it will bite on the 4th attempt at most, so if it bobs 3 time you know you can get the button ready

[tawdry flower]

Get used to the timing and watch for the sparkle

[idle ingot]

of course I had no idea timing was an issue. I've been playing it like animal crossing fishing.

is that explained anywhere in game or are you just supposed to figure it out?

[north ocean]

figure it out

[tawdry flower]

The whole fishing “mini game” is testing the waters and finding out

The exact data I got from the wiki

[north ocean]

main in game indicator is "good catch" vs "excellent catch" when you catch a fish

[tawdry flower]

https://hades.gamepedia.com/Fishing

[idle ingot]

glad I asked. I never would have assumed timing had anything to do with it at all otherwise

I figured it had more to do with you afinnity with Poseidon

[distant lotus]

For fishing, I park the cursor over the bobber so the only stimuli I get when the fish bites is the flash and sound

That way I don't get tricked by the bobbing

[idle ingot]

I'm Playing on switch

[distant lotus]

Obviously only works for PC but you know

Yeah

I don't really know what else you could do for switch honestly

[idle ingot]

meh. Now that I know it's a timing thing, I might figure it out eventually

[distant lotus]

Yeah

I've caught a couple very rare fish because I still find it difficult

Most of the time it's my slow reactions

[thorny thorn]

Ok serious question, when am I supposed to get the ||interaction that helps Sisyphus, I managed to talk to Nyx and Meg I think before the Demeter update, and since then I've never got the Hades prompt, I'm currently inviting the Gods to a 'family gathering', and have restored connection between Orpheus, Eurydice, and Nyx and Chaos, but the Sisyphus one still hasn't come up||

||Or maybe it was Nyx I didn't speak to, but did speak to Hades, I don't even remember, either way I haven't gotten any prompts that will help me do Sisyphus a favor, despite having maxed everything for him||

[ivory walrus]

||You need a certain level of conversations with Sisyphus, Meg, and Nyx, as well the adminstrative chambers unlocked, it took me a while to get the Nyx message too, otherwise idk||

[tawdry flower]

And then there’s a bottleneck at Nyx, especially if you’re triggering the ||epilogue|| plotline

[hollow basin]

I am looking forward to the merch

||cthonic companions|| plis

Maybe a life sized Dusa if they're particularly daring

[calm vapor]

Yes dusa companion ftw

[hollow bane]

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[pulsar bridge]

Man, completing the Codex entry for the fishes in Primordial Chaos is going to be rough

[lost hazel]

yep

[smoky frost]

Hey I am new to the game but I love it. I am sure this is a common question, but I have not seen an answer anywhere - are they planning on DLC? I know they tend to move to a new project vs making DLC/Sequels

[hollow basin]

Well hades is an entirely different beast

[quaint wind]

they haven't made any announcements about making dlc so far

[hollow basin]

This game lends itself far better to expansions than their other games

[quaint wind]

i'd call it unliikely

[spiral dune]

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[hollow basin]

That said it's up to them. Game's pretty complete as is.

[opaque heron]

https://puu.sh/GzMdg/b88c4dd25b.jpg

So uh. Apparently Poseidon is easily persuaded

[hollow bane]

j dont think supergiant has ever done dlc for any of their games

[small tusk]

Playing Hades at 5K be like...

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/399068055092723712/762739442887688203/unknown.png

Blurry boi

[weary yacht]

what are good ways to earn dimonds? just go trough beating bone hydra?

[barren trail]

Hey Supergiant Team, I love your game ! Thanks a lot ❤️

[small tusk]

what are good ways to earn dimonds? just go trough beating bone hydra?
@weary yacht Bone Hydra and trading

[lost hazel]

hydra and fulfilling prophecies

[small tusk]

prophesies too

[weary yacht]

deam

[small tusk]

basically.. playing the game xD

[weary yacht]

they are extremely annoying to come by

[small tusk]

oh noes

There's this concept of "farming" in games. Not sure if you've heard of it before

some things just need time and effort, rewarding those who take up the task

[slate nymph]

once you start getting used to doing regular ||heat runs for bounties|| they'll start coming in. that will be about the time you also start checking off a lot of prophecies and will be getting a lot more than you generally need.

I did the math at one point, and apparently the exact number of diamonds you need for all of the contractor upgrades is the same as you get for ||doing all heat bounties||, so any diamonds you get from trading and prophecies are kind of extra. If you plan to do all bounty runs you'll eventually unlock everything and have diamonds to spare.

[high island]

Please be mindful of ||Heat|| being spoilers in this channel.

[small tusk]

I find trading and prophesies (which then will still flow into trading) to be a good way to get some diamonds. Trade gems for keys, keys for nectar, nectar for diamonds. Sometimes you get a trade darkness>gems or whatever, which speeds this up.

so you don't even really strictly need to do all the heat runs to unlock everything

you'll just do it through enough farming, even just doing the base runs enough times

[tawdry flower]

||Buying in Styx|| is always an option as well

[weary yacht]

yhe i do all of those, thanks tho!

[crude sorrel]

does "minotaur rush" count as attack?

[lost hazel]

in terms of boons, yes

[crude sorrel]

pulverizing blow, does that let minotaur rush hit twice?

[lost hazel]

no

[crude sorrel]

ugh

https://gyazo.com/c1a6113d20663b86d438826be86c2113 dont like any of those 😄

[lost hazel]

get charged shot

charged shot is very useful

[cloud apex]

Charged shot for a machinegun turret yes

[crude sorrel]

machinegun turret?

[lost hazel]

spam bull rush

[crude sorrel]

will I lose my block?

[lost hazel]

u can still block

its just the charge doesnt send u forward but creates a projectile instead

[cloud apex]

You still block, it will just not move you once you release bull rush attack

[crude sorrel]

hmmm

[cloud apex]

Something new to try, basically

[crude sorrel]

its what I like about the shield tho 😄

yeah I guess ill try it

but my other boons are pretty good so I was scared to ruin it

so the shot will apply weak? (from my attack)

[slate nymph]

yup, it should. And take on the damage bonus from the aphro attack, so with a base of 80 damage you'll get whatever that + whatever percentage on the attack and add weak.

[crude sorrel]

aaah sick

its epic

gonna be good dmg

[burnt lantern]

Is buying a diamond for 1000 worth it?

I have that much rn

[quasi gorge]

Charge shot is nutty good

Won my first run yesterday using it!

[crude sorrel]

rlly different playstyle tho then the charge 😛

just took like 50 dmg

[quasi gorge]

It’s for sure different

If you also get the one where you get a power shot if you time it right it does mad damage

[crude sorrel]

power shot is from? @quasi gorge

[main lark]

I have a question about house contractor, what does "themes" do, does anyone have a picture of the changes?

[quasi gorge]

Another daedelus hammer

So you kinda have to get lucky with RNG to do it

[slate nymph]

Is buying a diamond for 1000 worth it?
depends on if there is anything else in the shop you want at that point. If there is something that will greatly improve your boss fight might not be worth it if you have the obol, but otherwise it's always nice to have those extra resources ¯_(ツ)_/¯ @burnt lantern

(assuming you mean at the end-run shop)

[void vigil]

@main lark themes change your UI, and you can see them from scrolling up in #h1-victory-boasting

[quasi olive]

Hi everyone, first post here, just got out for the first time in Hell Mode, and figured I'd hang around here a bit! ; )

[quasi gorge]

Good job friend! I got my first victory yesterday, not on hell mode tho just regular

[quasi olive]

I was wondering, what in your opinion is the most/least used weapon?

[quasi gorge]

Like on a personal level or worldwide?

[quasi olive]

Good job friend! I got my first victory yesterday, not on hell mode tho just regular
@quasi gorge Thanks, I'm pretty happy with it, I decided to go with Hell mode right at the beginning, and I'm not disappointed by the fairly high difficulty! ^^

no, worldwide, I was wondering what the preferred and less preferred weapons are, overall.

[edgy nimbus]

i personally use shield > sword > rail >>> bow >>> spear >>>>>>>>> fists

[quasi gorge]

Without looking at any stats I’d say I’ve heard most people say they love the shield or the bow, and the generally least used is fists

[strong furnace]

Whoa, didn't know that

Fists are my favorite

[quasi gorge]

I like them but my runs are just never good

[edgy nimbus]

i think there's a definate subset of people who loves fists

[quasi gorge]

Unless I get the daedelus hammer boon that improves their range I have a hard time

[strong furnace]

Oh ok, I usually do pretty good with them. I usually have a hard time with Shield tho. Prob due to play style

[quasi olive]

I feel that fists, due to their really short range and reliance on dodging, should be rather used by more experienced players... But I'm a beginner at the game, so that's just an intuition.

[visual portal]

Now, I know Hades takes some liberties with being apart of Greek Mythology and all that

but I looked up and saw that Charon in greek myth is the son of Nyx

[strong furnace]

I feel dumb but how do we upload images here? Can we?

[void vigil]

upload them to something like imgur and link them here

[quasi olive]

Don't feel dumb, I don't know either! xD

[strong furnace]

Ah, thanks alma

lol Mitch

[void vigil]

@crude sorrel please dont evade the swear filter!

[crude sorrel]

sry!

[strong furnace]

Ever get the feeling the game reeeeeally likes some gods: https://i.imgur.com/yiCDykj.jpg

[quasi gorge]

I saw the message before it went away lol good job @crude sorrel

[crude sorrel]

^^

lol @strong furnace

[edgy nimbus]

party time

[crude sorrel]

450 upgrade is higher rarity boons yeah?

[edgy nimbus]

ye

[cloud apex]

That's some strong drink

[quasi gorge]

And the 300 pom levels 2 levels

[crude sorrel]

and 300g upgrade is 2 lvls?

ah

[strong furnace]

Ya, got a legendary from it. Also prob due to me already having most of his other boons

[crude sorrel]

sick

[visual portal]

All pommed up

I've only gotten 2 legendary boons so far

one from Chaos and one from Poseidon...the fishing one

thanks, uncle

[crude sorrel]

haha I got 2 aswell, 1 where you get shield for 20 sec and 1 where ur cast returns

[heavy plaza]

@visual portal Charon is the son of Nyx in game

[edgy nimbus]

hey at least the fishing one sell for legendary boon price!

[visual portal]

Oh

[heavy plaza]

And brother of Thanatos and Hypnos

[visual portal]

I did not know that

[edgy nimbus]

thats how i got the legendary boon removal achievement

[heavy plaza]

It's mentioned in a line of dialogue like once

[visual portal]

That only begs the question, where's Erebus

[heavy plaza]

Because all he does is scream

||erebus is also in-game||

[visual portal]

I KNEW I WAS MISSING A GOD IN MY CODEX

[heavy plaza]

||Erebus is also not a god in-game||

[visual portal]

|| Well, I'm missing somebody in the codex and I think it's him ||

|| Not to sure how to find him tho, but I assume maybe it has to do with reuniting Nyx and Chaos? ||

[heavy plaza]

||I don't think you meet him? There is a place called Erebus in-game||

[visual portal]

Hm

I'm missing somebody still I think

or maybe I just forgot I got them already

[marsh pendant]

@visual portal || Reuniting doesn't unlock much. I think you're looking for the olympian god unlocked after reaching the final boss once ||

[heavy plaza]

Yeah have you reached Redacted yet?

[visual portal]

Oh yeah I remember now

my brain was like "durrr"

cause I just finished school work

|| Persephone's keepsake is also pretty good ||

[heavy plaza]

I haven't used it but agreed

[visual portal]

when upgraded it becomes || Every 4 encounters it upgrades a boon ||

[tawdry flower]

Which is like ||15-18 free levels ups||

[visual portal]

|| Hade's keepsake is interesting, it's a good get out of jail free card ||

|| and becomes a call ||

[heavy plaza]

Ok that's actually pretty jacked, I'll have to go run with ||momma P's|| keepsake

[storm pike]

can bow's unique aspect get "charged volley" upgrade from daedalus? wiki don't say no but i'm not sure, i only play a few runs with it though

played*

[visual portal]

I used to hate using the bow

|| until I got the hidden aspect that's stronk ||

[storm pike]

chiron aspect is fun too

[jaunty talon]

I so I got || past Hades for the first time, saw a ending, and unlocked the pact of punishment.||. I gathered as much there's much more to do and see, but I'm a bit short on time.|| What should I do next? Finishing a tad more runs? Get specific heat thresholds and finish a run like that? build certain relationships further? || Not sure to go here or spoilers, but I'm also still avoiding most spoilers myself so afraid to ask there. I just like some simple pointers on what course of action I should take.

[crude sorrel]

ezz 😄 https://gyazo.com/3fc70c7010115896db0ac859ab2e2d5a @quasi gorge @lost hazel

[quasi gorge]

Ayyyy!!

[visual portal]

Shield is my favorite weapon

[cloud apex]

If you wanna work towards the true ending, then ||finish a few more runs. the rest game will explain by itself||
And gg

[edgy nimbus]

keep winning with other weapons/higher heat levels to get more blood/necter/diamonds

and keep talking with people

[visual portal]

NOW ONLY IF || chaos || can tell me the dumb aspect phrase

[jaunty talon]

I expected it to be in that direction, but thank you both for clarifying it a bit. ||I expected more exposition to follow shortly, but was a bit burned from all the playing out so I checked here first.||

[storm pike]

@jaunty talon To get the true ending ||you have to win 10 or 11 runs|| then there is the epiloge that you have to play a lot to get it

[soft forge]

Can I get confirmation that when cross saving comes out if I wanted to hop back between the switch and my PC I have to buy Hades for both?

I have it on PC but not for switch yet

[tough silo]

You would have to buy it on switch I'm sure

Since licenses typically don't transfer like that

[soft forge]

Yeah I figured. I love the game so I honestly don't mind just wanted to make sure

[tough silo]

Valid and fair

[crude sorrel]

boiling blood seem to strong to take aoe casts or am I wrong?

[edgy nimbus]

so boiling blood is really good vs bosses but not amazing vs rooms, where aoe casts shine

so it depends on if you need to clear rooms or kill bosses better, and that generally depends on your weapon, your build, and your heat level/which heat effects you take

[crude sorrel]

hmm yeah I guess heat plays a big roll yeah, for base game bosses seem hardest imo

[edgy nimbus]

id agree with that

rooms without heat are easier than the boss rooms

[robust pine]

It's my impression or Spear is the "worst" weapon?

[slate nymph]

It's my worst, but I've seen a lot of people that absolutely dominate with it. Just depends on your playstyle @robust pine

I'm generally not good with charging weapons aside from the shield unless I get the upgrades that make me sturdy so it doesn't get canceled.

[robust pine]

Guan yu is super slow and need the right Hammer to make the special good, Aquiles is very good but the effect doesn't reset

Hades super slow too

[slate nymph]

yeah spin builds are not super viable for the most part unless you get the perfect hammer boons. Guan Yu can be good with the Hermes special speed. I haven't played a ton of Guan Yu at this point though.

[unkempt sleet]

Hades spear can have the same DPS as sword 4 if you spin attack everything

[crude sorrel]

twin shot takes a lot of range 😮

[unkempt sleet]

You just need to spin dash instead of ever standing still

[zinc nacelle]

are there seeds in this game?

havent seen them yet

[unkempt sleet]

There is no way to input a seed manually in game

[marble prism]

With mods

[zinc nacelle]

wtf

how you make rougelike/lite game

without seeds

[marble prism]

I guess there are then, but not that we can do anything with

Other than maybe going into the files

[unkempt sleet]

Welcome to Supergiant Games. If it doesn't fit the narrative it's not in the game

[zinc nacelle]

gameplay > narrative for these games

imo

[candid bolt]

Not for supergiant, lol

[zinc nacelle]

i skip dialogue so i couldnt care less

[unkempt sleet]

That being said there is a way to manipulate and route a single seed. It's used in speedrunning

[edgy nimbus]

i think the story and visuals adds the to game in a way that makes me want to play hades more often then other roguelikes i also enjoy like dead cells and slay the spire

although the gameplay feels very clean and nice which is the main reason i play

[zinc nacelle]

i started dead cells a few days ago!

loving it

[unkempt sleet]

Well MrBlanky you're missing a lot of the great stuff that's in the game but you do you

[marble prism]

Fair enough for preference, but the story/narrative is very good

[zinc nacelle]

and slay the spire i love too

[marble prism]

for those who enjoy it

[zinc nacelle]

i get that

but

its just a nuisance for me in this game

[crude sorrel]

i wanted to get a drink 10 rooms ago 😦

[candid bolt]

How far are you into the game?

[edgy nimbus]

dead cells feels extremely smooth to play but the runs feel kinda same-y, hades has more variety in gameplay and more investment overall for me

i will say

[zinc nacelle]

uhm

[edgy nimbus]

some of the stuff in hades will feel tedious if you dont really care about the story

[marble prism]

That's true

[zinc nacelle]

im failed at final boss for second time

so not that far

[edgy nimbus]

i know i felt that way when i was trying to get ||hidden aspects||

[zinc nacelle]

didnt beat it yet

dead cells feels extremely smooth to play but the runs feel kinda same-y, hades has more variety in gameplay and more investment overall for me
@edgy nimbus i also feel like dead cells every run feels same

[candid bolt]

You'll get to like the story eventually I think, lol

[zinc nacelle]

by far the most random rougelike is BOI

im pretty sure

[storm pike]

Dead cells also doesn't have passive items so i don't feel it that roguelite-ish like other games

[zinc nacelle]

it does

[edgy nimbus]

yeah dead cells feels very roguelike

[zinc nacelle]

have passive items

[edgy nimbus]

hades rather roguelite

like mirror upgrades are huge

[zinc nacelle]

BOI has almost no progression that you feel

you just unlock fun items

but i like that

[edgy nimbus]

but hades is very much a character driven narrative

the amount of actual plot points is very low

but the depth of the characters is high, there's such a staggering amount of content and voice lines for each character

[zinc nacelle]

hmmm

maybe ill read them more

but i havent been enjoying them before so well see

[storm pike]

The dialogues are very fun and you can just read it very fast if you want

[edgy nimbus]

i like hermes being ||meta and telling me to speedrun||

[jade crescent]

hermes is a great character

well, all characters are tbh but he's the best

[edgy nimbus]

i like hermes and chaos the most

in terms of getting a quick line on my run

why yes master chaos i would love to discover the indefinite possibilities

[jade crescent]

quick line

nice

[floral shore]

The best? That's a weird way to write Poseidon.

Because water uncle is best uncle.

[edgy nimbus]

but i hate posiedon he keeps knocking stuff out of my zeus shield special :(

[floral shore]

I love him to bits. Breaking Wave is easily the single most fun boon in the game, once you've seen dudes pinball around the chamber for ludicrous damage in Styx you'll be converted too.

[sharp sluice]

how many ||darkness and keys do i need to give to the dude in hades chambers to get the badge|| ?

[sweet basin]

||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DwhHixzitE&ab_channel=Vinesauce%3ATheFullSauce|| Crazy successful run by Vinny Vinesauce

[north bison]

i just got this dialogue from dionysus about telling orpheus that he and zagreus are connected, and i think that's such a funny way they included the orphic dionysus stuff. i love all the little details in this game.

[jade crescent]

what badge san? you upgrade to a new tier each time

[floral shore]

how many ||darkness and keys do i need to give to the dude in hades chambers to get the badge|| ?
@sharp sluice For ||all the badges? There's like 40 or so of them.||

[sweet basin]

40!?

[floral shore]

For all of them the answer is a truckload.

[jade crescent]

I get surprised every single time I run 4th aspect shield, it does SO MUCH DAMAGE

[sharp sluice]

40 ? like 1k darkness and keys all the time or does it ramp up ?

[sweet basin]

BIG OL FOUR ZERO?!

It changes up

I'm on step 3 and it requires 2K darkness and a diamond

[floral shore]

It ramps up.

[jade crescent]

i just killed 4 hydra heads with a single shield bash thing

[sweet basin]

Poggers

[jade crescent]

the badges aren't too important, it's meant to give late game darkness sink to long term players

[floral shore]

||It's 50 ranks by the way, this thing is an endgame resource sink and do NOT invest any darkness into it unless you are completely out of other things to buy. It's that expensive.||

[sweet basin]

Jesus

[sharp sluice]

oh dang

[sweet basin]

Guess I should focus on the Mirror still then

[sharp sluice]

so basically 50k darkness

alright

[jade crescent]

100k

[sweet basin]

prob more tbh

[floral shore]

||50k? Make it 300k.||

[jade crescent]

or more if it's exponential

[sweet basin]

100K

likely

||300||K?

Jeez

[sharp sluice]

dang

alright time to BURN A LOT

[fringe garnet]

rip @ hades-feedback

[floral shore]

||iterally only buy that stuff if you have nothing else to get anymore. The resources are best used on things that are actually useful.||

[jade crescent]

don't think of it as being expensive, it's entirely bragging rights

gives people a goal after having everything

[sharp sluice]

what you guys think is the best aspect of the sword ?

[jade crescent]

2nd

[sharp sluice]

the crit one

[floral shore]

Poseidon probably. Nemesis is also very very good.

[sharp sluice]

i hate CAST builds

[jade crescent]

slam to get crits one

[marble prism]

Poseiden/nemsis

[floral shore]

Nemesis is great because it functions on a very low level.

[sharp sluice]

i literally use cast every........................yeah.................... >_<

[jade crescent]

I only care a ton for cast with hera bow or 4th shield (best weapon)

[fresh steppe]

Poseidon is only good if your cast is one that sticks

[sharp sluice]

4th shield is meh, chaos shield

[jade crescent]

as opposed to doing 1 hit for half a boss's health?

[storm pike]

Hidden aspect sword is great too

[upbeat kraken]

Crit builds are cool, but I don't think I've ever gone nemesis when I had a chance to go 4th instead. I love my big beefy boy.

[jade crescent]

beefy boi is rough given how slow it is

[upbeat kraken]

I concede he's not the best for extremely high heat runs, but from zero to mid, he's amazing

[sharp sluice]

i like old chaos shield because it was a shotgun rather than this new chaos shield

[storm pike]

i don't like any of the regular shield aspects because none of them encourage spamming bull rush

although chaos shield is fun watching all shields flying

[sweet basin]

lol what

[small sorrel]

Is there any other game that gets as-fckin-infuriating when it starts lagging mid run? I almost threw my water bottle in the wall because of it. How hard can it be to optimize a 2d game?

[sweet basin]

Must just be you

How's your memory looking on your PC?

[small sorrel]

not according to google

[storm pike]

i never had that problem

[small sorrel]

i never had that problem
@storm pike how is that relevant?

[sweet basin]

I had a bottlenecking issue that required me to reseat my RAM and remove a slower stick of RAM

[storm pike]

and my friends neither

[small sorrel]

I had a bottlenecking issue that required me to reseat my RAM and remove a slower stick of RAM
@sweet basin for a freaking 2d game?

[sweet basin]

But even with that issue I never had lag tbh

[robust pine]

Athena's cast doesn't work with bewoulf? 🧐

[sweet basin]

I cannot speak for your issue but I can tell you that I've only ever seen the game lag spike once and it was minor

on PC

[small sorrel]

it started somewhere in EA where i would get these spikes. With the fixes in the discord it works most times but then sometimes mid run something just fckin goes wrong

[sweet basin]

On Switch it tends to slow down because Switch's hardware is mediocre

[jade crescent]

duca, the explosive AOEs reflect in that area

[fair dove]

Flame wheels drop frames pretty bad in my experience

On switch

[sweet basin]

yep

and Witches

[small sorrel]

Im just wondering how many 1000s of particles theyve unnecessarily put in

[sweet basin]

real bad XD

[small sorrel]

that need to be rendered in real time

[fair dove]

Too much effects on screen

[robust pine]

Oh, ok. It didn't think so because there's no visual effect, looks like normal cast

[sweet basin]

Spag it's not an issue most of us have seen I'm sure

It's likely something to do with your PC build

[jade crescent]

I don't think it fires any casts off? some of the casts are converted to flat up AOEs with similar effects

[small sorrel]

it worked fine early in EA and other games like monster hunter, dota, cs work fine

[sweet basin]

Duca you sure you grabbed the right boon?

[small sorrel]

but not this freaking 2d game

[sweet basin]

Take it up with the devs then

Tell them how to make a 2d game

[small sorrel]

eh i quit the game because i started raging

[sweet basin]

F

[small sorrel]

thats why im here ranting

[storm pike]

Spag you could also ask in the channel "hades-tech-support"

[sweet basin]

^

[small sorrel]

yeah i will have to if it continues

just ruined my night so i needed to rage 🤷‍♂️

[sweet basin]

You're good man

[sharp sluice]

i just came back what did i miss ?

[sweet basin]

Try cleaning your PC of stuff using Malwarebytes or updating your drivers

[small sorrel]

yep ive done all the things they recommend

[sweet basin]

Do anything to optimize your build

WHat's your GPU?

I have an RTX 2060

[small sorrel]

sec

[sweet basin]

tyt

[sharp sluice]

#h1-tech-support

[small sorrel]

eh i just said i needed to rage, no need to tag tech support now

[sick torrent]

speaking of performance issues, I get a thing now and then where the game just like...freezes for about 5-7 seconds occasionally, seemingly at random. It's not often enough to be a huge bother or game breaking, and it doesn't seem to correlate at all with specific effects/high system intensity moments that I can identify, but it is puzzling. Anyone else have that?

[sweet basin]

Not me. Just a rare lag spike that only happened 1 time in 66 hrs of gameplay

[sharp sluice]

is the best way to find your tech issues

[jade crescent]

about to go into EM4 final boss, wish me luck

[small sorrel]

@sweet basin some old nvidia geforce gtx 950

[sick torrent]

U GOT THIS @jade crescent

BREAK THEIR LEGS

[jade crescent]

I hope so, I'm ultra stacked with 4th shield

[sweet basin]

I had a 660 before I upgraded. THat right there can be your red flag

[small sorrel]

probably is, its just im not gonna get a new gpu for hades when other games work w ell

[sweet basin]

try getting into at least the 1000 series

[sharp sluice]

Spag use this site: https://www.systemrequirementslab.com/cyri

[sweet basin]

Anything better should help

[sharp sluice]

it helps with games

[sweet basin]

I completely forgot that link existed

[small sorrel]

ive already played through the game in EA, just trying to get all the new stuff through atm so i dont see the point really

[sweet basin]

Fair

[jade crescent]

beat it :DD

[sharp sluice]

all the new stuffs are worthy

[crude sorrel]

https://gyazo.com/5a7cae2226d05a357963b34098f9d3a2 chamber 6 😛

[spare ridge]

well

gg

[weary yacht]

||how do you unlock all the different hidden aspects of the different weapons?||

[remote lily]

https://discordapp.com/channels/456889434672201729/521035166471159828/725092980829978655

[barren ocean]

@weary yacht check #h1-story-discussion pins

[frozen ice]

FINALLY killed ||hades||

[frozen spire]

nice

[crude sorrel]

lol it continues https://gyazo.com/49dda1fde57fb12791a0d21b737bca5f @spare ridge

[wispy summit]

Is there a new shop where we can buy things with darkness other than wretched broker?

I heard that they added such a thing

Maybe it's just a rumor

[frozen spire]

there are ||a few late-game things you can purchase with darkness||, but aside from that, the total cost of purchasing every single mirror rank is kind of massive

iunno if that should go in story spoilers

i'ma just ctrl + x that into story spoilers just in case

[wispy summit]

Hmm

So new shops ok

Thanks @frozen spire

[frozen spire]

yeah

i'm pretty far into the game but there's a small chance there's something I haven't seen yet

[wind wedge]

Spoilers: ||there's a very late game thing you haven't seen yet, but it's vanity only||

[frozen spire]

||is that the badges? I mentioned it||

Or even later?

[wind wedge]

Ah, is that what you were referring to? Yeah, that's what I meant too

[frozen spire]

ok lol

any talk of making the fishing spots in Chaos' realm more common?

Because if that's not in one of the post-1.0 patches then i might just never get those fish

[wind wedge]

I know fishing prevalence and "ease of getting legendaries" were both feedback submissions

[frozen spire]

getting legendaries is already pretty easy if you can perfect catch consistently

[wind wedge]

if, yeah

[jade crescent]

heh perfect catch

[frozen spire]

i can get them consistently, i don't know if that's just me

[jade crescent]

are you on M&K?

[frozen spire]

yes

[wind wedge]

I haven't gotten a perfect catch in about ~100 fish, so

[jade crescent]

what's the trick

[frozen spire]

look directly at the bobber

[jade crescent]

I know there's the thing where if it takes a long time to bob, it's not a fish

[frozen spire]

react to the white glint

there will always be 0-3 (inclusive) fakeout bobs

[barren ocean]

Theres two types of catches, 0.35seconds is the boundary

[frozen spire]

there's also a sound to react to

[barren ocean]

if youre faster its a rare fish with 5% chance legendary

[frozen spire]

there's some stat about having a 5% chance for a legendary with a perfect catch but uh

[barren ocean]

and if youre slower its common with 5% rare

yea

[frozen spire]

that must be terribly wrong because I get legendaries about 50% of the time?

maybe they changed it

[barren ocean]

Maybe

[jade crescent]

I got 2 legendary fish and I've only gotten 3 perfect catches

[frozen spire]

I have seen that number posted a lot but it goes way back

I think the odds are similarly split with normal catches

[wind wedge]

I mean, I know all the theory: but I've still never gotten a perfect catch in 100 or so tries

[shadow fable]

It's not 5% for sure

[frozen spire]

maybe it just comes down to reflexes

[jade crescent]

if it gets to 3-4 you could always preemptively press the button and hope you got it

[wind wedge]

yeah, of course it does, which is why "it's easy to get legendaries if you can get perfect catches" is sort of helpful but also not helpful

[marble prism]

O, it's not a 5% at legendary/rarest fish

[frozen spire]

yeah, that could stand to be fixed

[jade crescent]

yo demeter fist with kinetic launcher (hadukin ranged special) is super sick

[frigid scarab]

no idea if anyone's suggested this or if its even possible but it just came into my head now

[wind wedge]

I don't really mind so much, it's just mildly annoying that there's a minor prophecy I'll miss as a result. I can read about the missing codex entries on the wiki

[frozen spire]

iunno that kind of stuff irks me

[frigid scarab]

it would be nice to switch main menu themes to different ones that were released during big content updates

[frozen spire]

I can't get over the fact that I can do everything in the game except the Chaos fish entries

[wind wedge]

I'm used to not being able to do all the stuff in a game, though.

[frigid scarab]

wait theres a perfect catch mechanic?

[wind wedge]

Like, I am never going to manage a ||20 heat|| run, so ||Skelly's prizes|| are barred to me.

[frigid scarab]

you'd be surprised, i did 8 heat on my 2nd try

[barren ocean]

it varies from person to person

part luck as welll with boons

I found i got better the more i played

[marble prism]

If you catch quickly, it'll say "perfect catch" instead of "catch"

[frozen spire]

yes

yes it will

[frigid scarab]

cant wait to never figure out that timing

[frozen spire]

the white glint on the bobber

right when you see that is the timing

[marble prism]

I think it's within .35 seconds of the flash, might be misremembering

and yeah look for the flash

[pulsar hemlock]

Uhh, why is it when an artefact says "the next boon you find will be:" it then gives me another one? 🤔

[frozen spire]

i do not understand

you can only use each one once per run

[marble prism]

A keepsake?

[frozen spire]

and sometimes Hermes takes priority in Asphodel

because Hermes operates differently

[wind wedge]

Yeah, Hermes is more like hammers etc than other gods

[frozen spire]

I think the game tries to lean towards giving you a Hermes boon in Asphodel, similar to the way it prioritizes hammer in chapter 1 and 3

[marble prism]

Ohhh yeah, there are a few ways other boons can come before it

[pulsar hemlock]

I took the keepsake from Athena, started a run, and finds Poseidon 🤨

[wind wedge]

What boon did you get offered?

[marble prism]

In a normal door?

[pulsar hemlock]

The legendary one for fishing, apparenly

[marble prism]

Oh, that's scripted

[wind wedge]

Yes, that's a one-off special scripted event

[pulsar hemlock]

The first room that's basically a free boon

Hm, okay. But the hammer-thing can ignore the keepsake?

[wind wedge]

The hammer isn't a boon

[marble prism]

Yeah, hammers don't count as boons from gods so they can show up earlier

and hermes can appear before the keepsake boon

[frozen spire]

it just means whenever a non-scripted non-Hermes boon shows up that it'll match the keepsake

[wind wedge]

Basically: [all the other gods], [Hermes and hammers] are two different sets

[pulsar hemlock]

Okay

Thanks

[chilly monolith]

Is there a website for a how to like Icy Veins does for blizzard games or something to the likes of that?

[marble prism]

Not that I know of, the wiki and this discord server are probably your best bets

[chilly monolith]

Thank you

[simple lily]

is it just me or does Hermes pop up as the first reward in Asphodel a lot?

is that by design?

[deep marten]

I get the same feeling as well

[marble prism]

He can’t appear before asphodel except in shop

[sharp sluice]

finally

i got all achievements

[deep marten]

Hermes is a special god, I guess, so it's kinda like getting a hammer

[pallid yacht]

Does ||Pierced Butterfly|| not stack in ||Styx|| encounters?

[deep marten]

Only for the final encounter of each path

[tawdry flower]

It only applies per door

Same for Hermes’ Plume

However, ||Persephone||’s counts each room individually so you can get around 3-5 ||levels||

[pallid yacht]

@deep marten Ah okay, thanks

@tawdry flower Ty

[sharp sluice]

i think ||Persephone and Hades keepsakes|| are by far the best ones except for Acorn

[pine magnet]

Hey

are|| the alternate heat boss fights|| gone ?

i can't see them in the ||pact of punishments||

[tawdry flower]

||Pact of Punishment|| and ||Heat|| are spoilers, please edit your post.

The ||alternate boss fights|| are called ||Extreme Measures|| on that

[pine magnet]

Oh sorry buddy, had no clue

[tawdry flower]

It’s fine, thanks for editing

[pine magnet]

Oh right

Yeah, you're right

Thanks bud', have a great night !

[tawdry flower]

You have to unlock ||Extreme Measures 4|| for the Final Boss

[pine magnet]

Oooooh

Has he an|| alternate fight|| too ?

Dope !

Can't wait to see it

[tawdry flower]

Yeah. It was added in the 1.0 update.

[pine magnet]

gosh

I did'nt have the chance to play it since then

because my epic games save was somehow

erased ?

[sharp sluice]

uh

did you contacted tech support ?

[pine magnet]

soooo i didn't care about it much and i have bought the game again for my steam account cuz I wanted to for a long time

Nope

[sharp sluice]

ah i see oh well

[pine magnet]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

i'm a dummy dumb

[sharp sluice]

is a roguelike, dying is not the end so why not buy it again and start from 0 ¯_(ツ)_/¯

big brain play 🧠

[pine magnet]

lmaoooo

I know right ?

[sharp sluice]

https://giphy.com/gifs/culture--think-hmm-d3mlE7uhX8KFgEmY

[brisk trail]

Figured to switch the question over to this channel

but is it ever explained why Theseus is supported by the gods?

[sharp sluice]

because he was the champion of athena and he had the likes of the gods of olympus in the greek era

[tawdry flower]

Cause he doesn’t mention WHO he is fighting when we asks for aid.

[cloud apex]

Or maybe because gods don't exactly care who they like more and hence give blessings everywhere to see some spicy battles

[pulsar hemlock]

When should I consider myself good at Hades? 🤔
So far my win streak is 5

[shadow fable]

never

[autumn finch]

Hello everyone, new to the discord here. I wanted to know where could i report some translation mistakes i've spotted for some boons in french ? thank you 🙂

[pulsar hemlock]

Uhm, I think the F10 button in the game? At least on Steam. It should let you send a report, I think

[autumn finch]

Oh ok. I'm playing on Epic and i didnt see any topic where i could tell. Maybe i should check again or check on steam discussions

[pulsar hemlock]

I think it mentions it, if you look in under controls

In-game, I mean

[gusty slate]

If not #h1-tech-support works too ... I send for switch

[autumn finch]

Ok, thank you guys 🙂

[gusty slate]

Oh wait translation mistakes?

#hades-localization

[void vigil]

i did it! i completed the codex!

[frozen spire]

chaos fish?

how the hecc

[barren ocean]

AY NICE

lots of trying

[void vigil]

got a nice conversation with achilles as a reward

[barren ocean]

😮

[frozen spire]

65 hours playtime and I've had one chaos fishing spot

[gusty slate]

Achilles is impressed

[raven lava]

question
has anyone ever gotten a clear on the first run of a new save?

[barren ocean]

yes

not me

but ytubers have posted vids

[frozen spire]

any special dialogue for that?

[tawdry flower]

It’s a speed run category if I recall correctly

[barren ocean]

^

[gusty slate]

It doesn't have anything special I heard. It actually messes up the dialogue a bit

[barren ocean]

Vorime completed first run clear in 29:06

which is hella impressive

[granite ether]

That was 3rd run

[gusty slate]

Took me 3 runs to beat on my new save lol

[granite ether]

The first 2 where to setup mirror

[barren ocean]

Oh wait was it

[cloud apex]

I don't actually think anyone did a first run from the getgo

[barren ocean]

I died in Tartarus my first run lmao

[cloud apex]

partially because it's slower than having 2 dashes lol

[barren ocean]

Didnt even get to the furies

[brisk trail]

smol patch today? 22M

[gusty slate]

On my new save I got to 3rd boss, but couldn't output damage. First run

No mirror is tough

Also didn't realize keybinds are separate in each save?

Unless v1.0 redid my keybinds lol

[carmine ravine]

but is it ever explained why Theseus is supported by the gods?
@brisk trail coz hes a champion, but even dionysus said the gods dont rly like him behind his back

[brisk trail]

poor theseus just trying to entertain a crowd

[gusty slate]

Pos even has a ||quest for ya|| for Theseus

[void vigil]

yeah, keybinds are separate in each save

[gusty slate]

Good to know

[barren ocean]

Thesus is the most obnoxious foe in the entire game

[gusty slate]

Theseus is misunderstood

He's not the worst shade around

[tawdry flower]

He’s up there

[barren ocean]

i dont really think we're misunderstanding him

hes very forward about himself

XD

[cloud apex]

I'd argue the most obnoxious foe is your own mind when that Hypnos tip finally hits you, but theseus definitely has got the most outstanding look

[brisk trail]

i just wish I could romance theseus 😳

[cloud apex]

Already romanced by a bull, bad luck

[barren ocean]

or the other way around

[cloud apex]

Nah, theseus definitely won't gift anyone nectar and let alone ambrosia

[lofty dragon]

Theseus always wants to give Zagreus a taste of his BLESSED SPEAR

[cloud apex]

Well, spear isn't a consumable gift, so that does make sense

wait, if theseus beat the bull of minos with it, that can only mean...

[thorny owl]

Anyone know what the patch was on Steam?

[gusty slate]

Probably bug fixes

[opaque nexus]

hey crabbo

[cobalt prairie]

Not sure if this is the right place to put this but is it possible to put glacial glare (cast lasts longer and chills) as one of the requirements to be able to trigger Arctic blast (at 10 chill stacks enemy explodes in damage)?

It seems to require just about any other ability that chills but doesnt allow that one to allow that ability to be pickable from that god it comes from

[marble prism]

You mean whether ||glacial glare will enable arctic blast to be offered?||

[cobalt prairie]

yeah as a prereq

[marble prism]

I've not tested at all but since it isn't listed in codex I'd assume not

[cobalt prairie]

Its not currently

But Ideally it would make sense for it to be

[marble prism]

oh

ye

[cobalt prairie]

I figured this is the most direct place to bring up that idea as feedback

[tawdry flower]

||Demeter|| boons and effects like ||chill|| are spoilers in this channel

[cobalt prairie]

My bad wasnt sure where else to post the suggestion since it looks like feedback was taken down

[pine relic]

they're pretty much done with the game other than having a test branch to try and kill more bugs

[gusty slate]

Still hope, they haven't said what they plan to do quite yet

[thorny thorn]

by the way, I didn't follow the patch notes, but, did they actually nerf ||spread fire on adamant rail||? I remember it being way stronger, I started playing again a few days ago ||finished epilogue today||, before that I played before the Demeter update

[gusty slate]

I'm pretty sure it got knocked down some damage

[thorny thorn]

I think the way it worked also got changed

[gusty slate]

Haven't been able to find it myself

[jagged meadow]

So what reason would i have to give away my bottles to people for friendship aside from story content?

[cobalt prairie]

@pine relic oh thats disappointing. Its got a lot of potential for future updates

[brisk trail]

:I

Weird offscreen sex scene hooray?

[gusty slate]

Gotta give bottles to people. They like the . But it's needed for ||Prophecies and some othe r things||

[jagged meadow]

Do some characters need higher friendship to be able to unlock their companions too? Or did I read that wrong on the wiki.

[thorny thorn]

on the topic of ||spread fire|| ye it did get nerfed in march, it used to ||shoot 5 shots in a short range|| which was hyper op with certain boons, like Aphrodite's legendary one, as it could ||pretty much stunlock Hades||

[median crystal]

does "Dash-strike" work with Special?

[jagged meadow]

In that same vein||I can't talk to bouldy|| like I've heard so much about

[marble prism]

No, unless otherwise specified

[jagged meadow]

He deserves gifts too.

[marble prism]

like on fists, has a dash-upper, but that's still special dmg, not dash-strike

so just no actually

[median crystal]

OK thanks

[carmine ravine]

weapons arent spoilers lol y u guys censoring it

[lean kayak]

Hello there. I recently got the game for my birthday and I must say that I'm loving it so far.

[tough silo]

Played hades for four hours straight did I miss anything

[barren ocean]

you're perfectly on track 😄

[weak wharf]

I got an update to v1.36230 but I don't see any patch notes 🤔

[barren ocean]

@weak wharf #hades-patch-notes

[weak wharf]

it's not there

[barren ocean]

its the october 2nd post-launch patch

[weak wharf]

isn't that v1.36211 ?

[marble prism]

There small patches every once in a while, probably just bug fixes

there are other ones

[barren ocean]

oh if you're on PC

yea its bug patches

[weak wharf]

oh ok

[barren ocean]

i always forget most people are on PC XD

[ember flame]

The patch you’re referring to is PC.

Switch patch happened before that.

[still elk]

I know that the team can't comment on what's next but I do hope the rest of the Olympians are going to be patched in