yeah đ
#h1-discussion
fading gazelle
raven meteor
I see... is the time between bobs exactly the same every time?
verbal violet
Dusa is love. Dusa is life.
tame sigil
does fish give anything other than ||gems||
fading gazelle
Yes
deep marten
Depends on the biome
fading gazelle
it gives Nectar, Keys, etc
deep marten
Higher biomes give better stuff
tame sigil
dang i got confused then
hard pawn
Not necessarily
tawdry flower
First area: gems
Second: keys
Third: nectar
||Surface||: diamond/blood/ambrosia
deep marten
||Chaos: darkness||
hard pawn
Each biome is just a different resource, the only one that gives actual valuables is ||Greece||
tawdry flower
Oh, and Styx gives MORE gems
tame sigil
got it
verbal violet
Is sword the only weapon with life leech? Having that for redacted seemed to make it pretty easy, I haven't managed to even get that far with anything else.
tame sigil
Oh, and Styx gives MORE gems
@tawdry flower explains it
fading gazelle
@verbal violet There is another
hard pawn
The only legendary Iâve caught was in Tartarus and I was so excited and then it was worth 30 gems
deep marten
@verbal violet Fists have a heal on special kill hammer
tame sigil
Is sword the only weapon with life leech? Having that for redacted seemed to make it pretty easy, I haven't managed to even get that far with anything else.
@verbal violet is that a hammer upgrade? or an aspect?
fading gazelle
Hammer
mortal wadi
use shield and gg
fading gazelle
Ehhh
deep marten
Well, the fist hammer doesn't reduce your HP pool, so that's a tradeoff
fading gazelle
Shield is great and all but all the weapons are great
meager barn
fist is hp on special kill right?
fading gazelle
yes
raven meteor
I have the easiest time with spear
meager barn
yeah itâs bad lol
verbal violet
Special kill is not quite the same as on left click hit.
tame sigil
hammer with 900% damage to shields with dash strike is good for fists
meager barn
spear gang rise up
rotund sphinx
Is there a fish list or something
hard pawn
I like the sword one, plus sword hammers are general mediocre whereas fists have some nutty hammers (double kick special op)
verbal violet
But I guess it's a thing.
mortal wadi
I'd say shield is the easiest weapon to fight bosses with
raven meteor
Dash-strike hitting 3 times is a LOT of dps
fading gazelle
I'm an all weapons guy
tribal glade
spear is my fav so far but ive been enjoying all the weapons
took me a lot longer to find my groove with sword though
meager barn
i like all of them except rail
tawdry flower
Sword is rough for me
fading gazelle
Ahh
meager barn
which i find boring as sin
tribal glade
oh and im still unsure on the bow - having to press attack twice to shoot is.. weird
hard pawn
I found my sword groove with ||Excalibur|| 
tribal glade
maybe its just coz of controller?
fading gazelle
@meager barn Have you tried dash striking with the rail?
verbal violet
Surprisingly the gun is the one I don't really enjoy.
mortal wadi
cant you hold left click?
tame sigil
spear became a favorite when i got that hammer upgrade for no more spin strike
meager barn
iâm terrible with bow except for with good rng for hammers
tawdry flower
Iâm on my 12th run doing rail to try to get the RNG dialogue to unlock the 4th aspect now đ
hard pawn
I enjoy all weapons, but I do get really bored with Aegis, especially if not using Aspect of Zagreus
rotund sphinx
Its with zeus iirc
fading gazelle
You'll get it, I believe in you! 
carmine ravine
i rly dont like ||lucifer||, but other aspects is great with spread bomb and triple ones
verbal violet
Bow with rapid shots + deflect was great. Like a long range shield, that.
hard pawn
Though even if I do get bored I still acknowledge that the shield is busted
tawdry flower
Iâm aware @rotund sphinx
fading gazelle
@hard pawn The shield isn't busted at all
rotund sphinx
Oh all the best then
raven meteor
The rail seems kinda fun for me - the fact you can shoot special while reloading your attack leads to more dps
tribal glade
yeah i like the rail
tawdry flower
Iâve had him 4 out of 12 runs, and 2 his talk got distracted by story plot towards ||epilogue||
fading gazelle
The block mechanic is great for starters but it becomes redundant the more heat you use
tame sigil
use rail with zeus
hard pawn
@fading gazelle I genuinely cant think of a way to lose to ||hades|| with the shield
tame sigil
u wont regret it
verbal violet
It does.
fading gazelle
@hard pawn Oh ho ho, you'd be surprised
verbal violet
RIP.
wicked ingot
I don't like that rail's special landing site sometimes moves around when aiming with mouse, even after you shoot it
carmine ravine
with shield, if u got the laucher hammer, u cna literally camp in a corner and become immune to everything
meager barn
lot of swearers in chat
tawdry flower
It bounces off stuff, what do you expect?
tame sigil
zeus shield dps is insane
hard pawn
on high heat anything can happen; but low-medium: shield is just ez clap if youâre patient enough to not hit the âgive upâ button after holding attack over and over
meager barn
shield is the only weapon i use everything for
raven meteor
But how do you deal damage if you're blocking 24/7?
hard pawn
The block is an attack as well
tame sigil
use special with zeus shield and keep applying debuffs while doing damage
hard pawn
?
tawdry flower
Spam attack
rotund sphinx
Bull rush everywhere
carmine ravine
theres a hammer that makes u launch a projectile instead of bull rush
deep marten
Shield is so good
hard pawn
Yeah that hammer is nutty
tame sigil
?
@hard pawn yeah its an attack as well
deep marten
Best mobility
hard pawn
It was a sarcastic ?
meager barn
i donât use spear spin, rail attack, fist special, bow reg attack and sword special
fading gazelle
@hard pawn Every weapon is extremely viable on lower heat, shield may seem really op at the start because of the block but if you don't build properly, it can easily come back to bite you in the butt
raven meteor
I need to experiment with shield hammers more, it seems
fading gazelle
@meager barn How long have you been playing if I may ask?
meager barn
35 hours
fading gazelle
I see
meager barn
thatâs purely unupgraded btw
rotund sphinx
Wait no sword special?
meager barn
specific combos will make me use em
raven meteor
How dare you not use spear spiiin
meager barn
usually hammers
verbal violet
The wordfilter on the bot is too strong. It seems to filter "bad words" in legitimate words such as "ScÂunthorpe" the town in England.
deep marten
Shield does have pretty low dps for high heat, admittedly. Especially since I seem to gravitate toward bow
fading gazelle
I'm more shocked that you don't use the Rail Attack or Fist special
hard pawn
Unless you mess up the timing horribly, the shield will keep you undamaged through the final boss on low-med, thatâs more than viable
Of course theyâre all viable
novel steeple
I did 32 heat with Chiron's bow which is op imo
meager barn
i use rail dash attack
carmine ravine
rail atk is nice for stacking debuffs, and fist special, especially on magnetic, is far better than atk
raven meteor
Rail special is absolutely busted with damage boon and the hammer that gives it extra aoe and a LOT more damage
tame sigil
tbh i use the fists special that pulls reminds me of za hando from jojo
novel steeple
But shield is slow and I can't use it with tight deadlines
hard pawn
Gotta get that ||Gilgamesh aspect|| for the fist attack
tawdry flower
I prefer the rail special that launches 5 for -30% damage
fading gazelle
Syhgy try watching some high heat runners for some tips
rotund sphinx
Its good
carmine ravine
rail special with triple bomb, hazard bomb and spread bomb, ez cheese
hard pawn
Rail special is good but god itâs janky as hell
meager barn
the hammers are pog and the Aspect that buffs damage if you stand in it makes it dumber
raven meteor
Also, spear spin is absolutely incredible for when enemies are spawning in. Pro tip - you can dash while fully charged to deal quite a bit of damage in an expended range
verbal violet
Weird that on both ranged weapons the special seems too often outperform the main attack. On bow as well, specially if you get a special boon, there is barely a reason to left click at all any more.
deep marten
Which spear aspect is best and why is it Hades?
hard pawn
uhoh, mortar went within 5m of a wall that isnât actually a wall, time to bounce across the room, hit another âwallâ and end up behind Zagreus
carmine ravine
||guan yu|| yes
rotund sphinx
I like hidden aspect spear
hard pawn
Which spear aspect is best and why is it Hades?
Z a g r e u s
raven meteor
Hades aspect is my favourite but i don't think it's op... The tooltip seems to lie a lot
novel steeple
I had a run with auto-firing triple shot bow. I never used the special
hard pawn
I live and die by Zagreus spear and none shall sway me
tawdry flower
I played magnet fist for the first time tonight and fell in love
raven meteor
My problem with hades aspect is that it says +150% damage but it very clearly is less than that
verbal violet
Auto firing? you mean the rapid fire?
tame sigil
I played magnet fist for the first time tonight and fell in love
@tawdry flower same
carmine ravine
||gilgamesh|| fist feels better
novel steeple
Yeah I don't remember all he names
raven meteor
Zagreus spear is amazing if you get the hammer for exploding special
tame sigil
gotta unlock those fists
hard pawn
hidden fist and talos fist are big
verbal violet
Hammer is often better than any boon tbh.
rotund sphinx
Same gotta unlock the fists
hard pawn
theyâre both good for different reasons, but hidden is easier to make strong with boons
tawdry flower
@carmine ravine i won with that one, but didnât really love it
carmine ravine
hidden fist is a faster arther, with a damage debuff u can use
meager barn
talos is my go to
sterile light
hey guys
hard pawn
Hammer is often better than any boon tbh.
Depends, id go for certain gods over a hammer with shield or sword if the run was right
brisk trail
talos is my go to
@meager barn đ
sterile light
how do I check if I'm running at 60 fps or not on PC?
raven meteor
Really? It seemed almost like a 40% damage up when i used it...
deep marten
Interesting
hard pawn
Zagreus aspect + viscous skewer 
tame sigil
never used sword what boons or hammers would u guys recommend?
hard pawn
Athena attack and special are really good on Stygius, and of course Artemis is always good
tame sigil
i one time went for this hammer for sword that replaced the attack with stomp only and i hated it so much
deep marten
Actually, makes sense, since it's 50% of the original attack which is 25, so it should be 12.5
added damage
dusk night
Has the feedback channel been disabled again?
raven meteor
Same, noah
I was hoping it would remove the knockback of the sword, but it turns out it jsut sucks
hard pawn
Sword can use Dionysus stuff fairly well compared to other non-Exagryph weapons too, but itâs usually not a good choice unless you can get a real specific build going
tame sigil
true same the tooltip was kinda hard to understand
raven meteor
I used the sword hammer that gives extra damage based on obel, but i think that has a cap on how much damage you can get?
deep marten
Tbh, sword is kind of weak unless it's ||Excalibur||
meager barn
my favourite âchange how x attack worksâ is the hammer for spear that makes special into an aoe bomb
raven meteor
my favourite âchange how x attack worksâ is the hammer for spear that makes special into an aoe bomb
@meager barn
Yeah, that thing's amazing. I got my first final boss kill with it
rotund sphinx
Big chop is wonky
hard pawn
Cause your dash attack is still fast so you have to dash and then wait to attack properly
my favourite âchange how x attack worksâ is the hammer for spear that makes special into an aoe bomb
I donât remember this one lol
I like the rocket for Exagryph cause it gets rid of the wonky mess that is the mortar
meager barn
bombard rail special is my fav if you count that
deep marten
Hammers that are worth going for with sword are the ones that improve the special
Double nova
raven meteor
The fact that it deals a flat 50 in aoe with how fast it is makes it an easy and safe reliable source of dps
dusk night
is anyone able to post in the feedback section?
meager barn
5 bombs is so gross
deep marten
Super nova
tame sigil
thats for the sword?
deep marten
NOT dash nova
tame sigil
got it
raven meteor
I don't really like sword special... Why is it good?
hard pawn
Sword special upgrades are good but god theyâre lame
tame sigil
man the content in this game is amazing
tame sigil
i wish once we defeated ||hades ||we get to use like his boons
hard pawn
Most weapons already focus their special basically, sword is more fun focusing attack
deep marten
piercing wave is also pretty nice
hard pawn
Or even better, sword cast
meager barn
itâs like a less hype rail special
raven meteor
I really like using spear while focusing on dash strike
hard pawn
||Excalibur|| plus piercing wave is so fun
raven meteor
It deals a LOT of dps for a relatively large range
meager barn
serrated hammer dash attack on spear đ
raven meteor
steep blaze
Does anybody else wish there was options for Twitch integration ala Dead Cells to allow chat to vote on boons/what chamber you should go to next?
raven meteor
Three attacks per dash is insane DPS
steep blaze
maybe more territory for modding
meager barn
yup
deep marten
||Excalibur in general is so fun. Get Aphrodite to weaken stuff, Demeter to slow them down, then just stand there and tank hits while batting homeruns||
carmine ravine
piercing wave on hidden sword is funny since it dont fit at all
meager barn
3 applications of status crazy quick too
i had a run with ares attack and the stacking doom boon
hard pawn
The hidden aspects in general are really fun, though I personally donât like ||Beowulf and to a lesser extent, Rama||
raven meteor
I prefer the flat damage up from aphro or demeter
tawdry flower
||Guan Yu|| is my least favorite
carmine ravine
nah ||lucifer|| is the worst
hard pawn
I like ||guan yu|| but I donât use it cause it hurts
tawdry flower
||healing|| is nice, but it doesnât make up for speed and ||low health||
hard pawn
I prefer slower, big attacks but the ||hp down|| is just wack
||Hp down with heating|| shouldâve been its own thing instead of being lumped with cool heavy ||spear||
tawdry flower
Isnât it a hammer for one of the weapons?
hard pawn
Too bit of a change for hammer
The sword one doesnât require a special attack to heal
You just smack
carmine ravine
which is worst than the hammer
verbal violet
I feel like #h1-discussion should allow spoilers, since if you care about spoilers for some reason, there is #h1-for-new-players available, which makes much more sense as a spoiler free zone.
tawdry flower
I think they wanted blanket spoiler free in the discord since 1.0 just came out
raven meteor
I mean, it's not super clear what is considered "new player"
tawdry flower
Even for veteran players, there is plenty of new content to spoil
novel steeple
I think this whole discussion should be in builds and combat though
tawdry flower
This is basically a general chat to discuss anything Hades related, really, isnât it?
raven meteor
"No spoilers please! For general discussion of Hades. Hop over to story-and-spoilers or builds-and-combat to dive into specifics!"
brisk trail
Story events come out of order enough in different playthroughs that having a specific channel for story spoilers makes sense, I think.
verbal violet
Yeah, I got "I raised you like I thought your mother would" before "WHAT? YOU ARE NOT MOM?" and both of those before I got a sense that she even was supposed to be mother.
raven meteor
I am really curious as to how the story would be like if you successfully escaped on your very first attempt
tawdry flower
You can find out if youâre good enough with the base weapons
raven meteor
You use the sword, and i'm not good enough with the sword yet
Also, only one dash would make it significantly harder for me
verbal violet
I got to redacted pretty early. I feel like the game expects you to die at any boss at least once, but I died somewhere between 1 and 2 first and then pretty soon I went straight to redacted blasting past everything and I think that messed the story up a bunch.
raven meteor
Also, #GiveLernieMoreLore
verbal violet
More lore, less invulnerability phases.
novel steeple
"Lernie, hiss if you want more lore"
granite ether
lernie used to have more invul phases btw 
hard pawn
#GiveZagsFanNectarHearts
raven meteor
It's also kinda conveniant that you can say lernie without worrying about spoilers, since you only know who that even is if you already have experiance with them
hard pawn
||âLernie, hiss menacingly if you think youâre going to loseâ|| is my personal favorite lernie line
brisk trail
1st goodest boi = Cerberus
2nd = Bouldy
3rd, 4th, 5th, so on = Lernie & friends
verbal violet
Honestly. I think people care way too much about spoilers. Like, the game ain't ruined from knowing who the second boss is, it's bleedingly obvious who the final boss is gonna be and people act like big babies throwing tantrums as if knowing what thing comes next somehow ruins the entire experience when really it doesn't.
I noticed that when the Avengers Endgame movie came out and people went into a "No spoiler or I'll hurt you" frenzy. It's an avengers movie, what did they think would happen??
hard pawn
raven meteor
I mean, you probably won't know who the final boss is within your first few runs
hard pawn
south lava
I support final boss spoilers, not so much for the other ones.
verbal violet
@raven meteor I kinda expected it from the start, seems like the most obvious one.
hard pawn
Final boss isnât as obvious as youâre making it sound, ||the game never hints at it and makes it sound like heâs retired from combat long ago||
granite ether
I mean, there's channel specifically to talk about spoilers @verbal violet
raven meteor
I mean, normally i don't care about spoilers, but ||I was really glad i hadn't been spoiled on the fact that hades lets you go without a fight on the final run before returning mom. It was completely unexpected||
verbal violet
@granite ether I don't want to spoil anything, I'm just talking about spoiler culture in general and that I find it a bit silly.
hard pawn
I mean, normally i don't care about spoilers, but ||I was really glad i hadn't been spoiled on the fact that hades lets you go without a fight on the final run before returning mom. It was completely unexpected||
@raven meteor same, that was a huge moment imo
Spoiler culture is a bit harsh but thatâs better than it being lenient
granite ether
I disagree personally, people want to enjoy a thing without having seen anything about it. Let them 
tawdry flower
Yeah, but then you have the jerks posting screenshots from the end of movies or lines from the end of books before they release or the day they release
ember haven
do you know if there is gona be an update that brings more stages and specials?
brisk trail
Btw I think I've found the pattern on ||Styx satyr tunnels||, go with boon one first, and then pom/coins on second or third. Haven't encountered the bothersome ||King Vermin|| in the last few runs that way.
granite ether
but this is getting off-topic so #off-topic-discussion please ^_^
tawdry flower
I was at a convention when Harry Potter book 7 came out and one guy was going around loudly reading the last pages out loud
verbal violet
Oh fun fact about spoilers: Apparently there have been studies that people who had been spoiled books they were reading enjoyed the book more after being spoiled because they now anticipated that moment.
Ah, ok sorry.
raven meteor
I was rather concerned because ||my run wasn't really that good, my dps wasn't amazing and my max hp was trash, but was ready to try my hardest because i know if i can beat phase 1 without getting hit that one time, i can probably win with enough skill. Then it turns out it doesn't matter||
tame sigil
guys wait the only way i can fight ||charon is when i see his shop before the bossfight there stacks of money but what do i do to fight him?||
raven meteor
||Take the stack of money||
hard pawn
I was rather concerned because ||my run wasn't really that good, my dps wasn't amazing and my max hp was trash, but was ready to try my hardest because i know if i can beat phase 1 without getting hit that one time, i can probably win with enough skill. Then it turns out it doesn't matter||
@raven meteor same lol ||i had like a crummy fist run or something with some basic common boons||
tawdry flower
||steal the sack||
tame sigil
how do i do that lol?
sand stump
|| take the money||
raven meteor
Walk up to it and press e
tame sigil
ok got u
raven meteor
My problem with ||charon's boss fight|| is that,while he deals a lot of damage which is countered by how easy it is to dodge his attacks, getting practice for the fight is really difficult
tribal glade
Btw I think I've found the pattern on ||Styx satyr tunnels||, go with boon one first, and then pom/coins on second or third. Haven't encountered the bothersome ||King Vermin|| in the last few runs that way.
@brisk trail gah i hate that ||king vermin|| - some builds just make that super hard
hard pawn
Using the alternate dash makes his fight unbearable imo
tawdry flower
I love the ||Tiny Vermin|| fight
hard pawn
And I usually use the alternate dash so it is pain
brisk trail
@brisk trail gah i hate that ||king vermin|| - some builds just make that super hard
@tribal glade Especially melee. 4 defiances could be gone in an instant fighting it
tribal glade
Oh fun fact about spoilers: Apparently there have been studies that people who had been spoiled books they were reading enjoyed the book more after being spoiled because they now anticipated that moment.
@verbal violet i literally dont know a single person this actually applies to ><
crimson breach
It's definitely uncommon
raven meteor
Also, question about ||charon fight. Does his melee attack always attack from the same side? I feel like, if you could predict which side it's coming from, a single dash per swing would allow you to barely move from your spot without getting hit||
Could result in dealing a lot of damage on melee weapons
raven meteor
Which one is alt-dash again?
hard pawn
One dash but if you i-frame an attack you get 50% bonus damage for a while
sand stump
i literally dont know a single person this actually applies to ><
@tribal glade well, personally, as long as i dont know what lead to that spoiler, i kind of like a bit spoiler
raven meteor
I mean, i personally don't care much about spoilers
granite ether
#off-topic-discussion for the spoiler discussion please
sand stump
Say, for the ||Chiron fight|| spoiler is not bad, because i will be on my toe looking for it
tame sigil
whats the cap for % on ||chance to find rare or epic runes in the mirror?||
brisk trail
I generally don't mind spoiler that much for movies, books, but only for certain video games
terse ridge
Hello everyone !
Does anyone know if Supergiant plan to release Hades on GeForce Now ?
Thanks
raven meteor
Isn't off-topic for non-supergiant games?
verbal violet
@tribal glade It's s subconscious thing. Most people think they are heavily against spoilers because they think it completely ruins the experience, but they just convinced themselves of that.
granite ether
yes, and the current talk of spoilers if off-topic ^_^
raven meteor
It's related to "hades", and this channel is "for general discussion of Hades"
Ah, nvm, i misunderstood you
hard pawn
whats the cap for % on ||chance to find rare or epic runes in the mirror?||
@tame sigil ||40% for rare, 20% for epic, 10% for duo/legendary, 20% for laurel rooms||
raven meteor
||laurel rooms?||
granite ether
hard pawn
||the alternate of the bonus rare boon chance is a higher chance for rooms to be from the laurel pool, aka Hammers, Coins, Boons and Poms||
@raven meteor
hard pawn
Ngl the ||duo one|| feels like way more than 10% but thatâs probably cause I run it with ||more laurel rooms, so I get a ton of boons that all have that 10% bonus ||
tame sigil
but i dont see it in the mirror do i need to ||switch||?
raven meteor
It feels like, if i'm eligible for ||a duo||, i get it about 40% of the time
Do we really need to spoiler tag ||duo boons||?
raven meteor
Duo boons are for shipping characters with eachother
raven meteor
The artemis zagreus duo is ||4th bow aspect||
tribal glade
thanks for the link @granite ether (even if i wasnt the one who asked for it)
it mentions "rerolls" though - how does that work?
granite ether
you can reroll with Fated Authority into the same pool, so blue into blue, gold into gold. With the exception of mini-boss rooms (except in ||styx||) that will always re-roll into another god boon
tawdry flower
What on the discord is considered âhigh ||heat||â?
burnt breach
Hello!
Would someone know what are the most user-requested features for the game? I am looking for new mod ideas.
raven meteor
tribal glade
what is Fated Authority?
granite ether
one of the mirror upgrade options, specifically the last one on the mirror
tribal glade
oh cool
so once you've unlocked it you can use it before going through to a new room?
burnt breach
@granite ether I believe you are present in the server most of the time. May I ask if you've noticed some feature being requested a lot? Or something many users complain about?
@tribal glade https://hades.gamepedia.com/Mirror_of_Night
tribal glade
cheers
granite ether
from what I've noticed having the weapon hammers visable in the codex ||in a similar vein to how the boons are|| is something I've seen asked for in #hades-feedback a fair bit
burnt breach
do you mean the ||boon list?||
granite ether
yep
burnt breach
hmm alright thanks I'll take a look
tawdry flower
Iâd love that to be in the actual game
quartz knoll
uhhh guys is the rapid fire hammer compatible with ||Rama Bow||
or the 4th bow aspect
hard pawn
The wiki doesnât say theyâre incompatible
That aspect doesnât have anything special about its power shot and thatâs the only reason I could see for them to be incompatible
burnt breach
@quartz knoll do you mean Flurry Shot?
quartz knoll
yep
burnt breach
rapid fire is for the gun
quartz knoll
I mean rapid fire as in you hold down the button and it shoot instead of charge
burnt breach
It is not possible to get it with 4th aspect
quartz knoll
not the name of the hammer upgrade
ahhhhh
cuz I was extremely confused
since wiki said it could
but it's never there for me
burnt breach
the wiki says so?
quartz knoll
well more
burnt breach
then it is incorrect
quartz knoll
the lack of saying it couldn't
the bounce hammer also isn't available right
despite the fact that I really wished I could have bouncing sonic boom
unkempt sleet
Bounce can work. I've been offered it while using 4th bow.
I didn't take it so I don't know how it performs. I mostly use special anyway
burnt breach
@quartz knoll do you mean Chain Shot?
burnt breach
it is possible to get it with 4th aspect
quartz knoll
I edited the wiki to say you can't get flurry on Rama bow
also nice Bardock profile pic
burnt breach
ty, it was animated but I lost nitro so its static now
quartz knoll
I used to try Attack build rama bow
which was
pretty insane if I have to say so
I got the dual shot and melee shot
I could crit for 4k
unkempt sleet
dash strike till you make it
unkempt sleet
Not really? The dash attack is just a faster version of the attack, as in it charges faster
quartz knoll
oh
real ridge
did they remove world smasher? its only mentioned in the minotaur rush notes on the wiki
quartz knoll
I never really tried dash strike build on the bow
I ran dio special and artemis attack on 4th aspect
cuz free 7.5% crit chance
burnt breach
@real ridge It was removed in a previous update.
real ridge
aww bummer
unkempt sleet
Which is too bad, I liked that upgrade. But it did make you mostly invincible.
unkempt sleet
Chaos was way too powerful tbh
I like the change cause I already used it that way, but many have complained you actually need to aim now
quartz knoll
It's not about aiming
it's about each individual shield proc Zeus special
FOR EACH BOUNCE
which was pretty insane in hindsight
but Zeus Special 4th bow does literally that
unkempt sleet
It still has the cooldown, so it's mostly fine
lilac mason
yeah, I need to level a new shield aspect and can't decide between zeus or 4th
quartz knoll
beowulf is aight
lilac mason
is the 4th much better at rank 5 than it is on rank 1?
quartz knoll
if you build for attack and cast
lilac mason
cause I tried it out on 1 and it was pretty meh
unkempt sleet
It's really a matter of preference, I don't like either so I'm sticking to Chaos
quartz knoll
if you're a normal person and build special
then it doesn't matter
get charged special
get artemis special
go to town
chuck that 2k crit on shield
brisk trail
I still don't know how to unlock 4th aspect lol
I maxed all shield aspects
But nothing
quartz knoll
I still don't know how to unlock 4th aspect lol
@brisk trail check spoiler bro
unkempt sleet
relevant info are pinned in #h1-story-discussion
quartz knoll
4th aspect moveset has a stronger special
and for some reason
its slow flight speed is gone once you have charged special
idk if that's intended or a bug
but it throw out much faster
even without charging
it's the same with spear's 4th
people just build special on it because higher damage and ease of use
lilac mason
btw am I a weirdo for not focusing on 1 weapon? usually I raise heat only when I'm done with all 6 weapons for that heat level
static wadi
lot of ppl doing that
brisk trail
btw am I a weirdo for not focusing on 1 weapon? usually I raise heat only when I'm done with all 6 weapons for that heat level
@lilac mason I do that too
quartz knoll
for me I just randomly roll which weapon I am using next
unkempt sleet
I did that until 10 heat. You'll get all the resources you need that way
lilac mason
but I saw some ppl with like 30 clears on fists and 1-2 on others
quartz knoll
or what I feel like playing atm
unkempt sleet
Nyaanyaa is a special case. She likes fisting things like me.
quartz knoll
yeah maybe they just like decking people in the face
unkempt sleet
Or maybe a lot more than I do.
quartz knoll
or they really like that Ultra instinct Zagreus build
lilac mason
I'm at heat 7 rn, but I don't think I'll be done with titan blood once I hit 10
quartz knoll
80% dodge iirc
lilac mason
pretty sure I need like 170 blood more
unkempt sleet
Dodge chance stacks wierdly, I'm not sure you can get that high without ruthless
tawdry flower
I now have more Ambrosia than I can ever really use
unkempt sleet
max out all companions
lilac mason
I'm on over 50 ambrosia rn and seriously considering ||maxing out 1-2 companions|| and dumping rest into blood
quartz knoll
it was with ruthless
tawdry flower
I guess. Iâve only used Meg and Dusaâs so far, but Iâve unlocked 4 or 5
tribal glade
should i not be converting ambrosia into blood just yet?
quartz knoll
I mean
tribal glade
im still early in the game and i feel like i need the blood more than anything
quartz knoll
everything is farmable?
tribal glade
fair
quartz knoll
so if you spent it now
muted valley
dont convert anything early game is my suggestion
quartz knoll
you can always get more later
muted valley
yes in a way
unkempt sleet
I wouldn't trade anything early game because unlocking more things is better early
quartz knoll
so even if it's not that efficient
muted valley
but there's a limit
quartz knoll
you can do that
static wadi
you dont need much ambrosia early
quartz knoll
there's actually no limit cuz you can just buy stuff with gem
then move on up
like gem > key > nectar > diamond > ambriosa
tribal glade
yeah
unkempt sleet
1000 gems per titan blood isn't a good trade
tawdry flower
Siiiiiiiigh another rail run lost to ||post-epilogue Zeus dialogue|| in my attempt for the 4th gun aspect
quartz knoll
personally I don't think it's worth
tribal glade
so the best way to get more blood is to beat everything and up the heat level? what if i need more blood to beat things?
quartz knoll
just putting it out there that you can't "mess up"
there's also blood from achievement
AKA fated list
tribal glade
ok i'll have a look at what blood i can still get from the list
tribal glade
still lots to unlock
quartz knoll
or 1500
keen tartan
1200
quartz knoll
there's one achievement that's kicking ||Charon||'s butt twice in a row
5 blood
for free
tribal glade
spoiler?
quartz knoll
aight sorry bout that
tribal glade
i havent come across that yet lol
tawdry flower
1000 for diamonds, 1200 for blood, or ||800 and 960 with the discount||
lilac mason
also use golden touch for those low heat money runs
tribal glade
1000 for diamonds, 1200 for blood, or ||800 and 960 with the discount||
@tawdry flower oh? ||how to get discount?||
lilac mason
@tribal glade ||beat charon||
burnt breach
lilac mason
hope they actually add that to the codex without needing mods
quartz knoll
I hope they add a way to rewatch old cutscenes too
quartz knoll
Does ravenous will affect Hera and 4th shield
If I were to load the cast but never use them
burnt breach
let me try
quartz knoll
Aight thanks
quartz knoll
Good lordy
brisk trail
what does ||Hera Aspect||'s upgrade do in term of the blood stone? I've only tried that bow once, and get utterly rekt on Asphodel.
burnt breach
@granite ether I have completed the mod, I hope that if someone asks about this feature again you can point them towards it.
||https://www.nexusmods.com/hades/mods/43/||
granite ether
ooh that's real cool :3
mellow raven
Hello everyone,
I would like to know something about Steam success. Can I unlock all of them if I turn God mode on in the option menu ? Thx.
hard pawn
God Mode and Hell Mode do not affect unlocks/achievements in any way
mellow raven
@hard pawn thanks for your support
quartz knoll
what does ||Hera Aspect||'s upgrade do in term of the blood stone? I've only tried that bow once, and get utterly rekt on Asphodel.
@brisk trail it makes them fall out earlier iirc
smoky epoch
||anybody knows what's wrong with A place of Revelry? I got 13 renos including rugs and the repairs||
surreal beacon
you need to trigger a convo with ||dusa for that prophecy to fulfill||
I think
something about ||zag saying dusa did a good job with the lounge or something, or her saying "it was you who helped out|| I forget which one
wind wedge
Yeah, Wahad's comment matches my recollection of when it popped for me.
Technically, this is because ||that prophecy is also the unlock requirement for Dusa's relationship track||.
smoky epoch
cheers haven't got that convo yet
tame sigil
man the spear is insane
new record of 26 mins
anybody got a sc of the background when ||zag looks over the horizon||
rotund sphinx
Sure give me a second to boot up my computer
i'll pm you the sc
oh wait i forgot that i have to add you as friend in order to private message
opaque bough
you gotten it by now? I can send also
sand stump
I would love a Asphodel phone screen
My laptop have the blue ||Greece sea|| background
quick marlin
Because i can't find any art of the shades anywhere online, i decided to have a friend of mine help me make a pfp of the construction shade in photoshop
because i fine them adorable
burnt breach
@quick marlin here are the two shades
||https://imgur.com/hx0F6J3.png
https://imgur.com/DPPcodo.png||
spare ridge
the lads
silk river
Hey I was wondering if anyone knows of a reason to ||give nectar|| to the gods other than ||for keepsakes||?
hollow halo
forget all this when are we getting the recipe for the hell wrap
@silk river plot advancement, keepsake badges
silk river
sorry, uh what are keepsake badges?
hollow halo
||when u max a god bond past their personal quest (the lock) and then gift ambrosia you get a cute badge on their keepsake||
burnt breach
^
hollow halo
||works on every person with a keepsake||
void vigil
please dont discuss datamining in the server! @burnt breach
silk river
Most people consider the process of extracting assets that are not readily available via a program a type of datamining.
burnt breach
that is different from discussion about it
silk river
Thank you @hollow halo
languid wing
Has anyone else tried a sword tank build?
Im curious on the consensus of that build
spring kraken
Some one can tell me in Private message how i can write some think in #hades-feedback ?(already use bot command but its still closed.Even after restart of discord)
high island
Amir closed the feedback channel for now. It will be unlocked later today.
brisk trail
^
silk river
Gotta say that the amount of research that must have gone into this game is rather incredible.
The subtle references in some places to little known stories is wonderful. Honestly thats like 50% of why I bought this game.
silk river
3 years from the start of the project?
brisk trail
yup
spring kraken
Amir closed the feedback channel for now. It will be unlocked later today.
@high island đ I wanted to write there about || Curse of Drownin .||
Gotta say that the amount of research that must have gone into this game is rather incredible.
@silk river in steam statistic only 0.4 % push story to end. Be one of them.Game realy cool.
brisk trail
@silk river techniacally its 5 years because early acess but it was released to the public 3 years in
silk river
Thats a shame about not as many finishing the story.
granite ether
nah, it's was released to the public 2 years ago through early access
they started working on it about a month or so after the release of Pyre @brisk trail
silk river
I want to just because I need to find out what their logic is with the name.
Why in the world would they call him Zagreus...
spring kraken
I want to just because I need to find out what their logic is with the name.
@silk river there is a deep enough meaning
brisk trail
yea it was 2 years ago
but altogether it took 3 years
Why in the world would they call him Zagreus...
hes one of the most obscure greek gods
so hes a good charecter because you can do anything
hard pawn
^ Oddly enough, in most recorded mythos heâs actually the son of Zeus and ||Persephone||; not Hades
silk river
I'm well aware that he is not well known to the general public. But they did such diligent research in so many parts of the game and the lore.
So I will finish the story and see the reason for myself.
spare ridge
and people still complain anyway
spare ridge
so uh yeah
silk river
I'm not complaining.
spare ridge
iâm not saying you
silk river
I can think of several reasons including that Zagreus has a strong underworld connection.
brisk trail
mostly because he kind of seems like a hunter
hard pawn
Or; itâs less that he himself was the son of Zeus, moreso that he sometimes was referred to interchangeably with Dionysus, who is a son of Zeus (this is referenced in a side quest in game)
silk river
But that form of dionysus is way different than what we have in the game.
hard pawn
in some renditions yes they merged
silk river
Dionysus has a really interesting mythological history
hard pawn
But that form of dionysus is way different than what we have in the game.
I mean none of the main gods are really accurate, not that that is an issue as theyâre fantastic characters anyway
hard pawn
then thereâs Demeter who is randomly âGoddess of Seasonsâ which is definitely not a thing
Though I guess you canât really give âgod of agricultureâ combat boons lol
brisk trail
but also this is a game so I cut there mythology some slack
silk river
Yeah but with the role of ||persephone|| they needed A replacement
brisk trail
Though I guess you canât real my give âgod of agricultureâ combat boons lol
ummm plants vs zombies
hehehe
brisk trail
yes
hard pawn
Yeah but with the role of ||persephone|| they needed A replacement
that relationship is actually portrayed fairly accurately; the whole ||demeter freezing the planet when Persephone was kindnapped|| thing did happen in most mythos
brisk trail
thats how they explain winter
hard pawn
yeah
silk river
True
silk river
cya later
limber valley
question: do you ever unlock a more efficient way to earn Titan's blood?
hard pawn
It will get less grindy the most stuff you unlock, since you can turn spare stuff into blood at the Broker
limber valley
good point
hard pawn
Diamonds especially outlive their uses fairly quickly and thatâs a 2:1 ratio
limber valley
good point
heavy plaza
When your runs start becoming more successful you can earn up to 4 blood per run, which isn't bad at all
hard pawn
Small tip; try to keep at least 15 keys on you cause thereâs a chance that the broker will offer a blood for 15 keys after a run
hard pawn
When your runs start becoming more successful you can earn up to 4 blood per run, which isn't bad at all
are you counting the Ambrosia as an extra one cause there should only be 2, with 3 if one spawns in Styx
limber valley
wait i have a question then
distant lotus
I'm thinking they were counting each boss resource
hard pawn
I've been giving in my keys as soon as I get 5 of them
Nothing necessarily wrong with that; it just sucks for that trade to come up and you miss it. So I usually keep 15 minimum
limber valley
currently upon receiving the titans blood i was only able to get it one time before it was converted to darkness
each of the three major high-tier currencies i could only get once
hard pawn
Do you have the Pact unlocked?
limber valley
the what>
hard pawn
oh
distant lotus
In that case you have to either use a different weapon or complete a whole run
hard pawn
Thatâs why you asked about more blood
distant lotus
Once you complete a whole run, things will start to make a little more sense
hard pawn
beat the final boss once to unlock the actual game; including more boss resources
distant lotus
Good luck
distant lotus
I think the ||phase 2|| thing might be a spoiler
limber valley
OH
distant lotus
Probably best to tag it as one just in case
heavy plaza
No worries use the pipe character
distant lotus
All good
heavy plaza
||spoiler||
distant lotus
|| on both sides of the text
heavy plaza
Also @hard pawn yeah ambrosia
limber valley
||test||
heavy plaza
I know it's used for other things but I'd argue weapon aspects are more fun
hard pawn
Yeah I was trading ambrosia up but you need a lot of that stuff later
limber valley
ha
heavy plaza
Used to be shield, now I honestly like everything but Exagryph
distant lotus
Mine is still shield (see name) but I'm getting used to other weapons too
limber valley
i enjoy the bow mostly
heavy plaza
I started with Zeus shield! It's a fun way to start esp with stacking buffs like frost or poison
limber valley
i also play the ||gun||
gusty mountain
I see
hard pawn
Exagryph is really fun once you figure out its loop
gusty mountain
Well i saw a video of that dude || https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=of6nYK3pgmk ||
hard pawn
Rail is definitely the most complicated weapon tho, it seems really bad when you first pick it up
gusty mountain
But actually with spear im at || 28min not 31 ||
opaque nexus
thoughts on haelian's sword guide
gusty mountain
Y Rail is hard to get
limber valley
none of the weapons are bad to me
hard pawn
which it kind of is, except all four of itâs aspects are really strong when upgraded, and the fourth doesnât even need to be upgraded
heavy plaza
My issue with Rail moreso is that it doesn't have a lot of build variety
Take Zeus go ham, put some useful status on special
novel wasp
laughs in demeter arctic blast
laughs in aphro shotgun
laughs in dio + aphro duo, and then combine with ares duo
candid bolt
Hangover on attack for rail is pretty good too
novel wasp
or laughs in aspect of Lul with infinite ammo + pos
hard pawn
Zagreus aspect with Dionysus or Ares boons is really fun
novel wasp
rail has a lot of build variety
hard pawn
Also really like Zag + Artemis attack;
novel wasp
the only weapon i argue has really bad build is spear
hard pawn
and ||Lucifer|| + Dio attack is real nice
coral verge
I only found railgun playable with Zeus, other Gods just seems like shooting pebbles/laser pointer
hard pawn
Exagryph doesnât lack build variety; in fact itâs better at making use of a lot of boons the other weapons would avoid
novel wasp
Hestia Aphro sniper rifle hello?
coral verge
too much reloading and hard to control crowds for me
opaque nexus
I used to like it, now I dont
sand stump
Is there a requiment to unlock aspect 2-3 of weapons?
hard pawn
Exagryph is supposed to be a peashooter at first (shattered shackle is nice) but once you get stuff stacking itâll start ramping in damage
sand stump
Like unlock the ability to choose them
novel wasp
the requirement is capitalism
hard pawn
You have to unlock all the weapons; then after one more run youâll have aspects unlocked
Skelly will let you know
silk river
Hey is it normal for me to just do 0 heat if I just want to farm some darkness?
hard pawn
Iâm just about to do that so if it is youâre not the only weird one
novel wasp
I do that to do that mission so you are fine
heavy plaza
I actually like the way spear builds... Specifically with Guan Yu though
Otherwise yeah I agree it's pretty brittle
sand stump
I do 0 heat to speed up the story
Actually 1 heat, got Tight Deadline
Also trying to get that Legendary for Propecy
novel wasp
@heavy plaza Guan Yu is too cheese
Spear awards you mentally for able to do sick combos but doesnt reward you something that can make you die less often
hard pawn
i don't think getting 1-tapped by redacted is what i'd call cheese
sand stump
What is redacted?
hard pawn
final boss
hard pawn
saying redacted is easier than typing out the name and spoilering it
plus it looks funny to just say redacted
hard pawn
i like Zagreus aspect for the spear the most lol
sometimes the basics are the fun option
novel wasp
I always use Zag
gusty mountain
Y
novel wasp
but since they slightly increased the spin up and the damage sometimes hades joins my party of combo
hard pawn
i use Zag for rail as well, at least until i max Hestia (working on maxing Nemesis first, its at level 4 rn)
novel wasp
Chiron is just sad
hard pawn
i'll occasionally use ||Lucifer|| for the rail
novel wasp
it turned from pure cheese to pure mediocre now
gusty mountain
Chiron is actually broken i think
novel wasp
yes
gusty mountain
Y ofc
gusty mountain
that a weapon who u rly need to improve
hard pawn
my first Chiron run (1st level chiron) i got the +4 special hammer in the entry hallway
gusty mountain
But actually the best weapon for me is Spear basic form
novel wasp
boi are you pre 1.0 player fareso
gusty mountain
y
gusty mountain
got the game till 2018
novel wasp
oh well then you experience the cheese already
novel wasp
that a weapon who u rly need to improve
@gusty mountain tho is that a sarcasm or what
novel wasp
chiron bow is so easy
i ducttape my q and win the game
xd
mad fun, shame they did too much things to hurt that thing
gusty mountain
what's ur favourtie weapon btw ?
novel wasp
fork
gusty mountain
Dude im a spear addict personnaly
novel wasp
pretty obvious
gusty mountain
yo
playin basic form with the upgrade who make ur special an explosion
is just so sastifying
novel wasp
kira queen has already touched that spear
sinful pine
ok i have a question
sinful pine
i currently have a duo boon: ||demeter x poseidon with the cast dealing tons of damage||
and now i have artemis offering me ||duo boon for 2 cast shots||
novel wasp
that was achieved when hydra skip was still a thing so
hard pawn
take it
sinful pine
won't get replaced?
hard pawn
yeah
opaque bough
31 minutes until smash announcement hype
sinful pine
||exagryph with hazard bomb and artemis special||
opaque bough
I feel there's a non-zero chance zagreus could be in
gusty mountain
18 mins
@novel wasp yo can i got a screen of ur boons ?
opaque bough
Has anyone made some sort of TAS or hypothetical fastest possible run I wonder
flat vapor
if i had to guess it might be on its way? i don't know of any myself
paper granite
I'm puzzling what could the Ambrosia Delight be 
Like it looks like butter cookie with glaze, but it could be more
maybe stuffed with white chocolate đ¤¤
granite ether
it could be that, sounds tasty :3
it could possibly also be a butter cookie coated in white chocolate
heavy plaza
I guess you could do TAS because every run is seeded
calm laurel
I wish they had recipes
novel wasp
turns out
paper granite
Im making them! C:
novel wasp
eurydice just use them as ambrosia sprinkles and pretty much stuffed the rest of them for herself
paper granite
Not official but still
novel wasp
juuuust one drop of them is spread across all the sprinkles
paper granite
Lol
granite ether
I wouldn't be surprised if there's a bit of ambrosia in the cookies (even though I doubt it would do much to the end flavour)
heavy plaza
Tbh I feel like Supergiant would adopt some recipes as official
What is Ambrosia though? Mead?
paper granite
That would be awesome 
strong vessel
Where can I post a bug on Switch? The only method I the devs say is pressing F10 to report the bug. I think that is not an option with the switch.
hard pawn
Ambrosia is god food
paper granite
Its basically "Food of the gods"
hard pawn
yeah
paper granite
Doesn't really have a specific name for it
granite ether
@strong vessel in #h1-tech-support (be sure to specify you're playing the switch version)
paper granite
which is why I am still struggling with what could be the drink, trying to research into what ancient Greece used as food, maybe then I can think of what the drink may be
strong vessel
Thank you @granite ether
granite ether
no worries
heavy plaza
Yeah Nectar and Ambrosia
I always interpreted it as being super sweet
IDK if this is Rick Riordan or actual mythology but I'm pretty sure it kills mortals if they drink it so
Because it's just too good
paper granite
Oh boy XD
granite ether
I somewhat imagine ambrosia being a super sweat super strong alcoholic beverage
Where each bottle has the characteristics of the starting products giving ||the alledgid every bottle tasting a differant from any other||
heavy plaza
TBH after a while I interpreted as ||uber drugs||
Like, it's like slamming everything at once
Considering that it's related to Dionysus
paper granite
I am thinking of somekind of strong drink, perhaps with honey? Because then it would count as both food and drink at the same time!
tame sigil
you gotten it by now? I can send also
@opaque bough that would be great il have it rotate between themes
paper granite
Which is the definition of Ambrosia
Well "definition" being a word, its definition is very cryptic, being both food and a drink in ancient myths
heavy plaza
Yeah, I feel like mead would be best but IDK if you can cook with it
Maybe a sweet wine?
Or gold tequila
tame sigil
how?
granite ether
It being more honey like makes more sense when talking about a sweet food like cookies :3
paper granite
Yeah! I am thinking sweet tequila with honey and orange juice
granite ether
Ahh i see, the bot doesn't like alcoholic mocktails apparantly
paper granite
D:
tame sigil
wait is zag over 21? oh no...
tame sigil
maybe yeah
wouldnt it be cool if there were a reference to percy jackson
since ya know the movie?
heavy plaza
I wouldn't be surprised if there was at least one in the game
paper granite
My bartender friend is totally on board, gonna crack down ambroisa and make an awesome video
novel spindle
since ya know the movie?
@tame sigil who cares about that trash of a movie? At least say the books
tame sigil
my bad I dont know a lot of greek mythology but only of the gods
Well im sure the movie doesnt accurately describe anything since it was made based on modernity
but iv always loved greek mythology and when I was younger the only info of anything i had from it was that movie and my history teacher
heavy plaza
lol the movie wasn't that bad haha
The books weren't exactly a milestone in classical literature either lol
They were fun but I wouldn't call them masterpieces
Like whatever you want to like
tame sigil
yeah true but this game really opened my eyes to greek mythology
like i didnt know a god of wine existed lol
brisk trail
guys
heavy plaza
Greek and roman poetry is actually pretty good!
novel spindle
Greek mythology is interesting
brisk trail
how can i unlock the last aspect?
coral verge
Go google about Zagreus, it's pretty interesting
heavy plaza
I'd recommend giving a translation of the Aeneid or Odyssey a read!
tame sigil
Go google about Zagreus, it's pretty interesting
@coral verge i just did and im reading ss we speak
novel spindle
Those are a bit heavy but if you like the stuff
heavy plaza
@brisk trail keep spending blood on stuff
spring kraken
Hm. i dont know its problem or not. I maxed Dusa relationships. But don't have ||little portret on her keepsake. its a bug?( first i max relationships with Meg.after i max Dusa)||
tame sigil
how can i unlock the last aspect?
@brisk trail check the wiki or if u want il give u the links
brisk trail
yes plz
tame sigil
sent
paper granite
@spring kraken for me it took some time until she came up and had a conversation with me o: give it a few runs
granite ether
Check the pinned messages in #h1-story-discussion
The wiki is likely out of date
@brisk trail
spring kraken
@spring kraken for me it took some time until she came up and had a conversation with me o: give it a few runs
@paper graniteare you sure about that? ||Dusa all time fly away from me when i try speak with her.Say about she Busy and fly away.last 10-12 interaction runs|| are you sure about that?
coral verge
everything boils down to, do more runs
paper granite
Did you have a talk about ||Being besties|| yet?
harsh pasture
Hi! I'm about to buy Hades, but I just have one small question: Will the devs keep updating Hades in the future (DLC's, more content etc...)
spring kraken
Did you have a talk about ||Being besties|| yet?
@paper granite Probably yes. i try more interactions. ||but last was about Nix and Dusa problem||
Hi! I'm about to buy Hades, but I just have one small question: Will the devs keep updating Hades in the future (DLC's, more content etc...)
@harsh pasture im have 150 hours and still dont complete all story.Game already big
coral verge
@harsh pasture their previous games didn't have major DLCs so probably not, it's a great game by itself and you'll have fun with the story/voices/gameplay
harsh pasture
Alright, thanks!
coral verge
it's a roguelite where you can progress even after death and dying is the main theme of the game
paper granite
@spring kraken And how about getting ||your ambrosia back?||
paper granite
Can't blame them, the game is amazing
coral verge
I would like to think so but their DLC track record doesn't seem to be optimistic
harsh pasture
I just wanted to make sure there was a lot of content, and if not, if they would add more in the future
light knot
Hi, never played the beta and all but a friend of mine offered me the game and i'm having so much fun. It's been years since i didn't have that much fun
heavy plaza
Yeah there's plenty of content
light knot
Everything is so beautifully crafted it's crazy
heavy plaza
Like, you have to get better at the game to progress with the story
It's a really cool and rewarding mechanic
light knot
Yup
next umbra
spring kraken
@spring kraken And how about getting ||your ambrosia back?||
@paper granite She ||dont give me back ambrosia bottles.Only father give me it backnectar||
brisk trail
I find it hard to escape using Stubborn Defiance.
harsh pasture
@heavy plaza I'm glad to hear that! I'm sure I'll have plenty of fun
brisk trail
Btw, does ||Aspect of Lucifer|| has its own hammer upgrades? I picked up twice, and they're not the same as usual Rail upgrades.
coral verge
Stubborn Defiance is... weird. Most people prefer Death Defiance
heavy plaza
I actually escaped my first time with Stubborn
brisk trail
guys
heavy plaza
Mostly because I was too poor to pay for more Death Defiance
coral verge
@brisk trail yes, quite a few actually
heavy plaza
||Aspect of Arthur is Nyx???||
signal reef
Minecraft steve is in smash now
brisk trail
I had my 5 escape streaks, and without death on final fight, but once switched to Stubborn, failed, despite using similar weapon and almost identical boons to previous run >_>
coral verge
@signal reef #off-topic-discussion or #video-games
brisk trail
||Aspect of Arthur is Nyx???||
@heavy plaza Yes
@brisk trail yes, quite a few actually
@coral verge Do they have their own prophecy/task too? Because I only have the usual rail upgrades one
coral verge
nope, no prophecies for the hidden aspect hammer upgrades, only ||escaping with them equipped||
paper granite
That's an oof >: I want to try stubbron now, but dont want to loose my 12 win streak D:
coral verge
you can equip Skelly's keepsake with Stubborn Defiance btw
brisk trail
i have any other aspect
you can equip Skelly's keepsake with Stubborn Defiance btw
@coral verge Yea, I switched my keepsake to Skelly's, problem is, died twice against ||King Vermin||
heavy plaza
Wait, @brisk trail how many runs do you have and how far are you in the story?
brisk trail
So by the time I met the final boss, only have 1/3 health left, and 1 stubborn def
heavy plaza
Spoiler how far you are in the story
brisk trail
Wait, @brisk trail how many runs do you have and how far are you in the story?
@heavy plaza i tell you the exacly run
15 run
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heavy plaza
oh
that's why
So, story conversations take priority in the convos you unlock with characters
The hidden aspect convos are like last in the queue
So you kinda just have to keep doing runs
heavy plaza
Some people get theirs around like mid 20s, I didn't get mine until mid 30s
brisk trail
dude
heavy plaza
If you want to get it as fast as possible, don't advance the story lol
brisk trail
i have reached the epilouge
heavy plaza
That way you don't get any new story dialogue
Oh wait nvm you fine
Just keep doing runs lol
coral verge
there's no way you can reach ||epilogue|| with 15 runs