I wouldn't really use it much anyway though bc tartarus is free
#h1-discussion
raven silo
cobalt maple
very nice for tartarus on higher heat levels
brisk trail
I usually use a god gift for tartarus
vernal prairie
Do artemis attack boons also affect your dash strike or is that just for the dash boon?
brisk trail
When I’m doing shield posedion shell for obvious reasons
vernal prairie
I guess I'm asking does my dash attack get affected by regualr artemis attack boons
brisk trail
Do artemis attack boons also affect your dash strike or is that just for the dash boon?
Only attack unless it’s the one where all attacks have chance
brisk trail
Yea honestly I find Artemis not to be that great
The all attacks have crit is nice
But that’s it
The cast is bad and the call is poor as well
And I’d rather have de buffs
vernal prairie
@raven silo what are some neat builds?
raven silo
though a discussion on how good artemis is better suited for #h1-builds-and-combat
uhhh
you've only got 5/6 weapons unlocked, right?
vernal prairie
I've got everything besides the final transformation for each weapon, not sur ehow to unlock them
I played in EA as well
raven silo
ah
was thinking of someone else then sorry
uhhh my favourite build is just posiedon special on the talos gaultlets
simple, but I find it fun
lucid stratus
idk how artemis stacks with weapons that have innate crit but that seems like the way to go about it
vernal prairie
@raven silo oh i meant builds w/ artemis lol xD
raven silo
ah
I don't really build artemis too often, try asking in #h1-builds-and-combat
as I said a discussion on that is better for there
ik she has a duo w/ ares that makes blade rifts seeking
vernal prairie
is there an ares boon that lets you apply doom multiple times ?
I seem to remember there being one in EA
solar abyss
does privileged status apply for 2 stacks of the same status?
Or does it have to be different statuses
cobalt maple
duo with Aphrodite makes it reapply continuously if the enemy is weak
has to be different
raven silo
there is one that lets you reapply it, but it's only for slightly more damage
10 more per added hit IIRC
cobalt maple
i dont even know how that one works
vernal prairie
ahhh ok @raven silo I see it now, thanks
sick mortar
is there a way to disable the game music when tabbed out?
ember flame
Uuugh I had a near perfect build for Redacted and still blew it 
manic bobcat
Don't worry. We all have that one IceWin run where we lost.
brisk trail
||I've beaten hades, but I still don't understand two of his phase two attacks. The red-green circle, and the heat laser beam thing. Can they be deflected? Do the pillars block them? What's the correct way to read and avoid them? ||
ember flame
lol maybe provide some context for this ?
solar abyss
What's confusing about the circle attack is that it has a slightly different timing to Theseus's circle attack, which the player is more used to
jade vapor
qq: what happens if I clear a boss for the first time on a higher heat level than necessary? (like, I've cleared boss 1 and 2 with the spear on 0 heat, but not 3) do I get extra rewards, or lock myself out of the lower-heat reward?
supple field
you get the bounty for the lowest heat level you havent done
for example if you're supposed to be at heat 3 but you jumped all the way to heat 10 and succeeded in escaping, you would only be getting the reward for heat 3
solar abyss
It's a dumb system imo
zinc shore
|| You can block heat lasers with ageis or athena's call. Otherwise hide behind the rock pillars ||
supple field
it makes complete sense to me
valid wave
hullo, I joined to hang around and wait for news about a fix for the switch save crash bug
hades is pretty great though
supple field
hello welcome
jade vapor
so in my example, I'd only get one bounty item for beating a boss for the first time on heat 1, but I could beat them on heat 1 a second time and get a second bounty?
south lava
@brisk trail ||For the lasers you can hide behind terrain, block them with the shield, use an impervious call, or if you're below extreme measures 4 get right next to Hades (Laser hitbox starts slightly outside of hades. The circles that explode from the skulls have to be dashed through or evaded by being far away.||
hard kelp
is there a bug report spot
solar abyss
What's the max heat you can do?
south lava
Like the max heat possible?
solar abyss
yes
ember flame
@hard kelp #h1-tech-support
hard kelp
ok i got a weird glitch
south lava
Supposedly 63 heat is the max. I don't think I've ever seen anyone succeed at it, though now that I've said it someone will probably prove me wrong.
sturdy coral
Anyone using macros for stuff like hestia rail reload on dash etc?
cobalt maple
yeah I really don't think heat 63 is doable
south lava
I mean it's only no healing, EM4, no mirror, single boon choices, a 5 min deadline.... You know easy or something.
brisk trail
whenever I think something is impossible, I remember that the world record for live rattlesnakes held by the tail with a person's mouth is something like 17.
people are ridiculous creatures who do absurd things.
(Also, I'm deathly afraid of snakes, so no pictures, please and thank you! ❤️)
south lava
Also at 54 heat and above, the game says the Heat Gauge is crying.
quaint wind
i think someone beat the game at 52 or 57 heat but like they were the only person who has been recorded to do so
brisk trail
guys
what remains to unlock in the endgame
i need the infernal sword
how can i get it ?
there's a lot of stuff to do in the endgame! like, so much!!
but it should all be spoiler tagged! (the answers, not the question)
moved to spoiler chanel
fine
very good game
raven silo
I just got hit by an arrow trap mid-thanatos cutscene, seeing zag just slide over to thanatos was funny
I just got a dionysus line that referenced orphic dionysus, that's pretty pog
slender lantern
So i found a text that isn't translated to spanish, where can i post it so they can fix it in the future
brisk trail
F10.
slender lantern
in game?
north pier
I'm really happy that ||zag's has so many voicelines for his colosseum fan||
gusty slate
fallen violet
I beat ||EM4 second try||
But FO2 plus that scares me
Bro asterius is already lightspeed with FO2
mellow elk
I finally beat the game and just incase any of the devs come down into these chats, thank you from the bottom of my heart for this game that hooked me (and even still has its hooks in me.) <3
brisk trail
how do I marry sexy sleepy God hypnos
carmine ravine
you dont
calm bone
welp, was half way through a 16 heat run and got a fatal error that made my screen go completely black after entering one of those things where you cant take damage
rip
quaint bramble
#h1-tech-fixes might have a pinned for that I believe
shut flicker
WHEN i finish the main game can i still play the game
analog elbow
Yes
analog elbow
Hehe
gritty pelican
i believe he's talking about the one that lets you charge casts into ur shots
opaque nexus
Rama is the hidden bow
gritty pelican
ahhh nvm
opaque nexus
It’s not that one either lol
shut flicker
i still havent gotten the spear hiden aspect
opaque nexus
It makes the attack into a super wide shot
opaque nexus
And each enemy you hit with the special gets shared suffering, meaning they will take damage if you hit anything else
gritty pelican
that sounds dope
opaque nexus
It is
analog elbow
Just keep playing Little Mount
shut flicker
ughhhhh
opaque nexus
Yeah Rama with twin or triple shot is amazing
fleet zephyr
Tbh with rama I just make the special the main attack
opaque nexus
Attack is amazing though
ivory estuary
Besides for your own gratification, do streaks do anything? Do they have any mechanical benifit?
opaque nexus
That’s like the main thing about it
jovial crypt
Hey all, what do the "Decorative Themes" do? They're quite expensive, but I can't seem to figure out what they change.
jovial crypt
Oh, interesting. Is there a wiki page anywhere that describes what it changes?
flat vapor
they're late-game cosmetic stuff
it just gives your boon tab and win screen different looks
brisk trail
They were added in 1.0, so I'm not sure anyone has written down everything for it.
jovial crypt
Interesting... ok.
Well, thanks for the heads-up. I'll see if I can spot what the differences are.
flat vapor
you can see a lot of them in #h1-victory-boasting
though if you want them to be a surprise, i'd stay away
jovial crypt
Sounds good
mossy night
i gotta ask this, cuz i've run into this many times now. why is it in hades some boons have a werid text from the rest?
brisk trail
A very persistent bug.
mossy night
ah, i see
solar abyss
Yeah I don't know how max heat would be possible if you have no mirror, everything has +hp, and the time limit
Maybe if you get super lucky damage boost boons
flat vapor
there are some real super players in the hades community lol, i'm sure someone will get there eventually
solar abyss
Who is the bestest?
solar abyss
gee?
sick mortar
like
solar abyss
It gets absorbed by the styx
flat vapor
tag your spoilers
sick mortar
all that "fertilizer"
solar abyss
which is.. kind of a metaphysical river I think
flat vapor
this is non-spoiler chat
brisk trail
God I hate poison
also, playing on switch, my friggin thumbs are starting to hurt
I stop playing Hades, only to get the urge to boot the game back up 15 minutes later
Bruh
Also I ran into my first boss witch room and....dear god. The ensuing bullet hell gave me Gungeon flashbacks
I died horribly, of course. No deflect + low damage lol
dreamy girder
Honest question but how do people even get past the first area with the bow
brisk trail
I find bow pretty easy early on. It quickly falls behind if you don't stack damage. I'll either get to Elysium barely tickling the enemies or 2-shotting them
So far the spear is the hardest weapon to get good runs with. Can never seem to get the damage I need
languid hill
indigo nest
Also I ran into my first boss witch room and....dear god. The ensuing bullet hell gave me Gungeon flashbacks
@brisk trail spear dash can help clear bullets, also I feel the gungeon vibe
Used to play it, did Soldier's past
Marine
sorry
brisk trail
That's the beauty of this game: There's actually so much dialogue that it fills out the progression of a roguelite, and then some.
indigo nest
The witches are easy if you got the ultimatum that is spear, flurry jab, deflect on main attack
pliant dust
|| guys..unlocked all the aspects in all weapons, killed boss with spear & still achilles is not giving me the guan yu aspect..how long should i wait? ||
indigo nest
spoiler that pls
pliant dust
spoiler that pls
@indigo nest how do i do that
indigo nest
|| on both sides
flat vapor
||spoiler||
indigo nest
|| like this ||
anyways that aspect I looked at it doesnt seem too useful
but you need 5 titans blood in spear
flat vapor
you need that aspect first before you can get the other 4ths
pliant dust
ok done ty..yap have upgraded spear with like 6-7 titan blood already..
pliant dust
the broken one
@indigo nest yap. || to unlock final aspect for the sword ||
dreamy girder
I thought you needed 5 titan blood throughout all the weapons?
indigo nest
yas ||aspect of HOLY||
dreamy girder
Or is the guide i read wrong
opaque nexus
Honest question but how do people even get past the first area with the bow
Have you tried the hidden aspect lol
dreamy girder
Nah because i haven't gotten that far
opaque nexus
Ok cause it is really fun and really good
dreamy girder
I got to the boss of the 2nd chamber once on my old save and haven't gotten that far since
flat vapor
use dash strikes constantly instead of regular attacks
go for the hammer as quickly as possible
flat vapor
twin shot is the standard one you should probably always go for if you see it
flurry shot is also S tier
triple shot + chain line up really well for great crowd control
still isle
doesn't twin shot reduce range
flat vapor
explosive has amazing damage but the slower charge time can hurt, however twin shot's lower range actually counteracts this
still isle
i never really liked twin shot tbh
flat vapor
Sniper, Point-Blank, and Perfect Shot are all secondary hammers that you take if you can't get any others
opaque nexus
On Rama you want that
flat vapor
oh sniper is 100% utter garbo
opaque nexus
Since Rama you actually are close range
still isle
idk I feel like bow doesn't have many good daedalus options
opaque nexus
If you can’t tell I really like Rama
still isle
compared to say...fists or rail
900% damage to armor is insane
triple bomb is insane
opaque nexus
Cluster bomb*
opaque nexus
Spread shot is still pretty good
still isle
is it just me or is every single weapon that does triple shot suck
lance triple stab
trash
opaque nexus
Serrated dash is okay
still isle
anything dash is good really
opaque nexus
Dash strikes are just powerful
opaque nexus
Nemesis double dash
still isle
athena dash
opaque nexus
Nemesis double edge + hunter dash + Artemis attack
opaque nexus
Very good speedrun meta
quartz yarrow
lightning strike and flurry jab and triple jab was real overpowered on 0 heat, that's how i got my first win
raven silo
Wait I can get food from blue laurel rooms? I just rerolled a darkness rom and got a food icon
wow
flat vapor
enjoy it while it lasts
you don't see it at all when you progress further into the game
still sand
Cluster bomb is a hard carry
raven silo
gun aspect 4 is... weird is all I can say about it
||apperently if I directly hit people with the bomb it detonates instantly, which is cool I guess||
calm bone
So does Zagereus and Dusa ever seal the deal in mythology?
manic bobcat
there is no Dusa in mythology
calm bone
rip
raven silo
zagreus' myths are mostly obtained from snippets from lost works, so we'll never know for sure
for all we know zagreus and dusa in fact do seal the deal
manic bobcat
it's interesting that we have many people concerned about Zag Dusa relationship recently
meager notch
Only natural when more people get there
distant locust
Is their a way to de show much fish you caught
manic bobcat
not really, I just count the amount of fish when I turn them in to the chef
but no way to show on victory screen
flat vapor
there is actually, you can buy a fish tank from the contractor to put into the lounge
if you interact with it, it shows you total fish caught
eager vortex
guys any idea what the best weapon upgrades are for aegis, bow and spear?
manic bobcat
All of them are good and fit certain playstyle. The balance is nice. Although if you are looking for something powerful that doesn't need too much investment, can't go wrong with Hera Bow, Zag/Hades Spear.
manic bobcat
yeah, the ones I listed are those that aren't horrid even with low blood investment. When maxed out they are all equally powerful.
eager vortex
I went with the overall upgrade for spear, I like it
north pier
so the hybrid controller+mouse seems really really perfect, are there people who actually do this?
flat vapor
lysol 
flat vapor
@terse geyser you have another
manic bobcat
this is getting out of hand, now there are two of them
north pier
wait what
dude
props if other people do this
it's actually so satisfying
aim exactly where you want AND move precisely as you desire
flat vapor
i can't believe this
north pier
you literally cannot go wrong
silver bone
Question...
flat vapor
it just... doesn't seem sustainable
silver bone
What is the average amount of attempts for a newcomer to get the true ending?
fading bough
Do you guys suggest a new save for the release?
north pier
depends on difficulty
silver bone
Normal difficulty.
north pier
i started a new save just for the sake of it
silver bone
On a fresh save file.
north pier
the average is really misleading probably
manic bobcat
Amount to first clear is anywhere between 15-40+
silver bone
Okay...I had my first clear on 11.
flat vapor
a new save would let you experience the story as sgg has it planned out, but keeping your save is fine. you'll see all the story events you qualify for, just some won't make sense in the moment
silver bone
10th on 28.
north pier
if you get ultra lucky and happen to choose the best thing and make the best choices, you could clear it insanely fast
silver bone
With a 6-win streak.
manic bobcat
to true ending is spoiler territory, it's ||10 full clears||
fading bough
I don't want to miss any new content but I love the stuff I unlocked already haha
manic bobcat
I am willing to bet the average attempt to Hell Mode clear is lower than that of Normal Mode
fading bough
Thanks all I will probably make a new save and keep the older one as suggested
north pier
I last played in january, was planning on making a new file at release
manic bobcat
because people who do Hell More are more likely to start their 2nd save
flat vapor
if you've already cleared, that new convo talking about how you haven't cleared yet won't make sense, but you will see it
north pier
dude @manic bobcat i thought so too, but my hell mode clear happened at literally 35, tbf i didn't do the pact on my normal runs but still
i had to entirely change the way i played
round wraith
zagreus' myths are mostly obtained from snippets from lost works, so we'll never know for sure
@raven silo adding to that, zagreus might just be dionysus
solar abyss
Dash strike counts as an attack right?
north pier
Are there other instances of gods being referred to diferently @round wraith
cause that seems plausible
round wraith
all the time, a lot of it is just pieced together.
raven silo
zagreus might also be hades
round wraith
it's especially common in norse mythology
limber dock
i need to hire a great player to play for me
round wraith
use god mode
raven silo
especially when you're a god that mostly got phased out or integrated with aspects of other gods
limber dock
anyone looking for a job? preferably a streamer
meager notch
Or its all just a prank that got out of hand after some boastful bloke lied to a naive court musician
manic bobcat
bruh moment
limber dock
yeah for real
manic bobcat
why though
raven silo
just get good?
manic bobcat
^
raven silo
or use god mode
north pier
wild how the christian god was literally just a trump card some kid played on another kid while they were doing like imaginary war, like "yo my god is all gods all at once and has an invulnerability shield"
raven silo
no shame in that
limber dock
cause i suck and iu wanna see someone do good on my account
raven silo
just play god mode until you're better at the game
it's not that massive of a bonus from what I hear anyway
meager notch
Whats the point of getting a game just to pay someone to play it wth
raven silo
you'll get better over time god mode or no
north pier
@meager notch cause that means I could get paid
manic bobcat
if you want to get good, ask for advice here
meager notch
You're not the one getting paid if you're paying someone else to play lol
Unless you're selling the account for more later 🤔
limber dock
yeah. i pay. you play
north pier
put the money in my pocket and you'll get your clear
solar abyss
$1 an hour
manic bobcat
I don't trust that dude lol
limber dock
inbox me
north pier
just pay first
manic bobcat
but figure it out between yourselves, i suppose
north pier
and you got a deal
limber dock
yup
manic bobcat
bring it to a dm please
solar abyss
$10 per clear
north pier
whoa whoa whoa
meager notch
ez money
median sluice
bad rng spear builds are cringe. wasted my time
meager notch
kek
elfin breach
Can someone give me a non spoiler explanation as to how to unlock the 4th aspects of weapons? I have the spear one but none of the others
limber dock
got twitch?
brisk trail
you have to invest the weapon resources
solar abyss
Why wouldn't you recruit from high heat strats 
brisk trail
that's the non spoiler explanation
once you invest enough and use them, things will happen
solar abyss
What's the twitch? I want to see this two man team in action
elfin breach
I already unlocked all of the other aspect with titan blood tho
So thought it would be enough 
brisk trail
mini spoiler || it takes 5 titan blood investment ||
elfin breach
Alright ty
brisk trail
np
meager notch
TFW no blades of chaos to instill fear in the gods of Olympus
raven silo
||gun with a face|| instills enough fear I think
meager notch
Not nearly enough
meager notch
omg I have to unlock it now
brisk trail
I just invoked the sunken treasure boon in || Styx || and got || a freakin diamond! || is that normal?
Also, I'm about to face the final boss with full health and 3 death defiance. can't wait to see how I screw this one up 🙃
raven silo
just did my first run with it and I'm not sure how I feel about it
it wasn't a bad run I'm just not sure how good of a run it was
muted valley
@brisk trail are you sure you dodnt buy ||the diamond offered there?||
brisk trail
yeah, I couldn't afford it!!
(also I took a screenshot and you can see the most expensive reward still for sale)
raven silo
just got the second half of that dionysus/zagreus thing, the prank with orpheus
I LOVE IT SO MUCH
the greek myth nerd in me appreciates this
north pier
where is lysol i need to have a bro moment where we bond over our control scheme
manic bobcat
@terse geyser
calm bone
so heat 32 pretty easy?
manic bobcat
probably being hunted down by assassins
calm bone
rocket launcher build probably
north pier
for holding two things at once- i see
manic bobcat
Easy? Not really. Can be done consistently/Doing Streak? Absolutely.
flat vapor
for combining the two things that should never be combined
north pier
is there a bonus for being on a streak? spoil me if there is
calm bone
the bonus could be a youtube following
flat vapor
not really
calm bone
if you record
north pier
oh that's pretty fire
smoky wharf
oof chaos just told me im not allowed to use the attack button, send help
inland lake
raven silo
B
manic bobcat
are we inching closer to the daily stream of consciousness Hades 32 Heat Streak?
north pier
b or the back button on controller
raven silo
Gcon just hope you didn't get it too close to the last chambers of a floor
smoky wharf
i more or less just started asphodel so it shouldnt be too bad
raven silo
ah okay
smoky wharf
but its gonna suck if i have to face Lernie with special attack only
north pier
is there a max heat clear of hades recorded somewhere?
calm bone
RNG becomes too important the higher you turn up the heat till the point you need to restart immidately if you dont get the perfect boons
brisk trail
yep. I friggin died. full health and full death defiance. I'm just so bad at avoiding the attacks.
manic bobcat
@north pier check out pins in #h1-high-heat-strategies
if you dig through Krashercorr's spreadsheet, there was a record 57 heat but routed
54 heat done "normally"
raven silo
a seeded 63 heat run might be possible but it would be incredibly difficult and you'd need to basically find the perfect seed
brisk trail
or that old glitch where turning up the heat actually gave you infinite casts
that would probably help
raven silo
5mins per floor no mirror among other effects
north pier
i'm just having flashbacks to all gods on bastion
north pier
there's gotta be a way
brisk trail
Bastion has set spawns.
vast junco
63 heat is honestly on a whole other level than just SGG's previous difficulty modifiers
brisk trail
and I'm here messing up no heat runs 😳
calm bone
the hardest part is the time limit, that's why you need perfect boons
brisk trail
good luck
manic bobcat
god speed
smoky wharf
oof died to bone hydra bc i was being careless
raven silo
reminder to spoiler tag your posts talking about them if you do
eager vortex
yeah ik
brisk trail
it's so weird. I beat the final boss on my first try, after 30 runs, with not a lot of talents unlocked. since then, I can consistently get to the final boss, but I can't seem to get very many wins at all, even on no heat.
even though now I have more talents, better gear, etc
raven silo
¯_(ツ)_/¯
calm bone
I think High Damage and range is the best for the final boss
smoky wharf
||Hades finally let me give him another nectar!||
manic bobcat
@smoky wharf are you familiar with a certain St. Olaf?
smoky wharf
???
manic bobcat
nvm
solar abyss
173 golden touch interest with hoarding strike CHA-CHING
calm bone
The shield is always my hardest weapon just because of how long it takes to kill the final boss
manic bobcat
@north pier?
meager notch
dont matter how long it takes as long you secure a win :D
manic bobcat
TD would like a word
solar abyss
maybe start helping dad with the family business
meager notch
Which is the shields default state
north pier
@manic bobcat just utilizing the zeitgeist to respond to Goosejack
meager notch
By the time you start using TD2+ you won't be using the shield as often ¯_(ツ)_/¯
calm bone
I dont even consider using the shield for that
I mean the shield is one of the best weapons sometimes for encounters tho
but for bosses its awful
meager notch
flame wheels
idk, found it pretty decent if you charge + strike + dash strike a lot
Though I guess it does rely a lot more on boons for proper DPS 
smoky wharf
Y'know for how long it took to get ||idk if the Hades (meant to say keepsake here my fault) worth it||
meager notch
Spear aspect?
flat vapor
i don’t know the context but hades
raven meteor
The hades spear aspect is my favourite
smoky wharf
True
meager notch
The aspect is my favorite too
At least until I'll get the 4th one to be less of a punishment to use, then we'll see
raven meteor
Is it just me, or is the "150% extra damage" a lie, tho? I can tell it's more, but i use damage numbers and that does not seem like more than double...
raven meteor
I don't think there's a "best" one, it depends on your play style
manic bobcat
^
meager notch
Depends on your style really
I've found the tracking special one to be hilariously good with a lot of special modifiers
raven meteor
I found the tracking special one the only way to use bow special effectively, lol
eager vortex
so guess ill go for it
I found the tracking special one the only way to use bow special effectively, lol
yeah I find the special kinda jancky
so ill go for the tracking
meager notch
The non-tracking special is great for clearing projectiles
solar abyss
Okay, I had to pause the game and ask why the ever loving F I can use a max charge call and the game choose to target a minion instead of Redacted???
meager notch
Or mass applying curses like Doom or Rupture
eager vortex
I like how you call them redacted
raw mango
I also love shotgunning the special
solar abyss
2500 damage used on a low health minion wow
raw mango
Especially with ||demeter|| and the 10x splode
solar abyss
If I lose I'm quitting the game, no joke
raven meteor
I very rarely find myself in a situation where i'm close enough for a shotgun on the bow...
The tracking special is great for me because hitting the special key is a lot faster than charging up a shot, so i could get some damage in while running away
manic bobcat
Shotgunning with special is pepega imo
meager notch
Kinda risky at times though
manic bobcat
Try shotgunning with the superior triple shot
meager notch
ie flame wheels
manic bobcat
Go extra big or go home
flat vapor
triple shot is the truest melee build
manic bobcat
^
meager notch
nah imma keep my distance away from those maniacal bombers
raw mango
Ideally i’ll have both. Shotgun specials for applying stacking curses then triple shots
solar abyss
I'm done with hades
cinder lichen
I still want my final boss theme replacing Left 4 Dead 2's Tank themes
crimson breach
Hahaha baby rage
manic bobcat
bye goosejack
solar abyss
legit lost because the game chose to target low health minion with call
manic bobcat
come back soon
crimson breach
or don't
solar abyss
yeah screw you too meridian
crimson breach
cinder lichen
Also oof
crimson breach
Indeed, though a bit rough
flat vapor
I'm done with hades
this is like the whole premise of the game
solar abyss
Game actually cheated me, so mad
manic bobcat
as 4head as this sounds, now we know not to unleash full call unless 100% target hit
meager notch
crimson breach
eager vortex
Game actually cheated me, so mad
welcome to roguelites
I mean, atleast you can pet cerberus now
crimson breach
Hades definitely feels like a if you're good enough you'll win consistently (maybe not at high heat levels) kind of game though
So it's different from other rogues in that sense
eager vortex
yeah not to brag but ive reached redacted 3 times in a row
its def less luck based which I like
crimson breach
I think complaining about the heart not hitting the desired target is a bit silly
cinder lichen
I've gotten past Redacted consistently until...
meager notch
I wouldn't say so Meridian
The only difference would be how balanced things are, how likely you are to get garbage compared to the good stuff
Hades hit the bullseye in that regard imo
crimson breach
Yeah, the game feels solid overall
meager notch
You also have a lot of control over what you get with the trinkets so there's that as well
So there is more player control I guess
crimson breach
Yeah, same goes for most of the combat too
meager notch
As opposed to Deadcells for example, where you'd unlock garbage and have it shoved down your throat lol
Spartan boooooOOOOOOOOOOOTS
manic bobcat
or Isaac, here is another blank Devil Deal, have fun
crimson breach
All this is why I feel like what was said above was a bit silly in all seriousness
hollow heron
One Step From Eden be like "you start with 1 max hp" 
manic bobcat
man was probably a bit upset. it's a normal kneejerk reaction
hollow heron
Yeah
manic bobcat
let it go - Elsa
crimson breach
Well, not a healthy reaction
meager notch
ahem let me just retype that
fading gazelle
I smell smoke, what happened here?
meager notch
Just yesterday I played another game (Risk of Rain 2) on a harder alternate game mode, had such a good run only for it to end in the most [redacted] way imaginable
manic bobcat
I bet he got arrested and had to await his sentence at the end of time
meager notch
Yes but that wasn't the problem, I was dealing perfectly fine with that
What happened was (RoR2 end spoilers) ||You know how Mithrix steals your items on the 4th stage? I had a genesis loop.||
manic bobcat
lmao
manic bobcat
imagine not looping
meager notch
You gotta fight him on Eclipse
fading gazelle
Yeah ||Mithrix|| final phase is absolute horseturds
manic bobcat
nvm
fading gazelle
Caught me completely off guard
meager notch
The phase itself is fine really
SOME item interactions though...
manic bobcat
also Hadessssss
manic bobcat
so erm game is good
meager notch
RoR commando as a romanceable option in Hades with the Ukulele keepsake when
manic bobcat
just a fender bender
meager notch
nah
Someone got salty over the game performing ye ol targeting razzle dazzle
vast junco
i really like the idea of ||mithrix|| final phase but its execution is kind of terrible in my opinion OK sorry no more offtopic
meager notch
Someone called them babyrage over that, and thats that
manic bobcat
yeah I hate going to ||Mithrix|| I almost always loop into obliteration
meager notch
Imagine not finishing off a family tree under Coalescence 2.0
manic bobcat
when can we expect Hades 2: Electric Boogaloo?
granite ether
when Hypnos finally stops sleeping on the job 
fading gazelle
I'm still waiting for Hades 3: Bouldy strikes back
manic bobcat
Hades IV: A New Zag?
meager notch
Not before a Hades x God of War crossover
Imagine Zag finally getting to the surface, but suddenly none of the gods respond to him
The messages/boons he gets are just their equivalent of voice mail, and now there are a bunch of titans climbing Olympus to the top
surreal beacon
Cthonic Companion
raven meteor
A maxed call?
surreal beacon
Bouldy, the best one
manic bobcat
lmao
eager vortex
Imagine Zag finally getting to the surface, but suddenly none of the gods respond to him
The messages/boons he gets are just their equivalent of voice mail, and now there are a bunch of titans climbing Olympus to the top
@meager notch 'zag finally gets to the surface' is that a semi-spoiler?
vernal obsidian
Hades is one game and supergiant hasn't been following games like Bastion 2 to Bastion one instead they did Transistor and instead of doing Transistor 2 they did pyre but I think that they go to Hades 10.0.0 before they do a sequel
fading gazelle
I means its interpretation
meager notch
No?
He's striving for the surface since run 0
fading gazelle
I mean the sentence is pretty open
meager notch
m8 it was a joke
fading gazelle
T'was but a simple jest
meager notch
aye
eager vortex
Im bad at english mb
fading gazelle
Its all chill 
meager notch
No worries, you asked and we clarified
No harm done :)
eager vortex
indeed
meager notch
Cerberus is always employee of the month
They just have to give it to the 2nd employee of the month sometimes so that they don't feel left out
quartz flume
Wonder why they change every day (OR NIGHT)
fading gazelle
So its more Employee of the run
eager vortex
damn hell is weird
meager notch
For all we know, it takes Zag a month to reconstitute
eager vortex
nah according to greek myths people closer to hell reconstitute faster
like way faster
quartz flume
What if it takes zag a month to reach the surface
meager notch
According to Greek myths the gods would sooner kill each other than be as cooperative as they are ¯_(ツ)_/¯
eager vortex
just a month of endless fighting lmao
According to Greek myths the gods would sooner kill each other than be as cooperative as they are ¯_(ツ)_/¯
true, true :P
flint field
Hello, I'm new. Not really sure where this goes but I needed to let people know I absolutely love this game. Was sold on the art and Greek mythology setting, stayed for the fun as eff combat and amazing writing, WAS/IS REWARDED by this unexpected yet amazing Achilles subplot thank you Supergiant; now to slink back into my lurker form and wait for Godsdamned Thanatos to show up <3 (happy to be here nice to meet you)
meager notch
Hey, welcome
eager vortex
yeah I got the game a week ago
its such a good game
prob one of the best roguelikes in my steam library atm
wait is the achiles thing a spoiler
mods hang @flint field
flint field
Doesn't everyone have a subplot?
eager vortex
oh like, as in talking?
meager notch
Bouldy doesn't have a subplot
flint field
Poor bouldy
calm bone
The Wretched Broker doesnt have one either
vapid narwhal
F the 4 elite witch room in asphodel man
eager vortex
yeah that one makes me sad
you get screwed over by 100 purple balls everywhere on the screen
vapid narwhal
that room is slightly better on melee weapons
but you still need to pray for RNG to group them together so you block/deflect all their attacks
meager notch
You don't need RNG, as you can group them together by running around
manic bobcat
that room is one deflect away from being too easy and being too hard
flint field
The room I hate most is the butterfly ball elite in elysium while the little spirits spawn like crazy, can never NOT lost most of my hp there
vapid narwhal
every time I'm not on shield I'm like holy f* seeing that room
meager notch
You can also utilize Neptunes pushing boons to move them closer to each other
calm bone
nothing is worse than guys with shields
meager notch
How about
vapid narwhal
yeah last night I wasted a super good seed on that too
meager notch
Guys with shields + guys with bows :^)
vapid narwhal
butterfly super elite + elite shield
flint field
Ugh bows
vapid narwhal
2 death defiances
meager notch
Small room
Bows on their own aren't bad as they're pretty harmless when you're near them, or behind walls
calm bone
Tiny Vermin is harder than the final boss
meager notch
Bows + Flame Wheels however....
eager vortex
jesus christ
the sword beam from the hammer upgrade + an aoe blast upgrade for your special = DAMAGE
calm bone
Carts with increased speed buff is pretty bad
flint field
So far I've only beaten ||redacted|| once, but the build I had made by that point was so satisfying and trivialized all those horrible mobs . It was a bunch of deflect boons with small hp resto on enemy kills, with the very underrated festive fog cast powered up like crazy
limpid glacier
imagine zag wearing the collar keepsake
eager vortex
oh no
limpid glacier
not like that
narrow hemlock
art exists of that
raven silo
counter argument: imagine zag wearing the ||pom flower|| keepsake
eager vortex
still better than the collar
limpid glacier
i just want punk rock zag
limpid glacier
no
raven silo
idk man the collar is clearly cerberus's, not sure it'd fit zag
limpid glacier
i headcanon it as being from when he was a puppy
eager vortex
fair enough
raven silo
Singing VA is Ashley barrett, speaking is Francesca Hogan
eager vortex
gonna look up the singer
I knew they sounded different, the singing and talking voice
raven silo
she does work in other SGG games
vapid narwhal
Ashley barrett is SGG's singing voice of choice
raven silo
Red in transistor too
vapid narwhal
RED in Transistor, female lead vocal in Pyre
eager vortex
0_0
unique kestrel
should have learned this from link's awakening
eager vortex
you can steal???
eager vortex
hm ok
flint field
I.......
Chose not to tempt the Fates
raven silo
I actually felt bad when I did that the first time, charon is the only character I maxed out in relationship
quaint bramble
Took me forever to get that, along with Zeus’. Rng decided life would be made difficult for me
granite ether
@solemn kayak please spoiler tag ||Greece||
brisk trail
Those witches & gorgons on Asphodel and those rats on Styx, costs me 2 death defiance. >_> It's quite hard to use eternal spear, even with the 4th aspect
meager notch
Oh you sweet summer child
eager vortex
they had 50% hp
meager notch
Live and learn :)
brisk trail
I beat him on my 30ish run, you'll get there, bud
eager vortex
ty
novel wasp
@eager vortex #8611 whats up mothershuckers
distant totem
@brisk trail styx enemies are super annoying
I'd almost rather fight armored shield shades and flame wheels lol
eager vortex
@eager vortex #8611 whats up mothershuckers
@novel wasp this is colonel cornelius cornwall
misty ruin
Now that it’s past midnight here, my Switch tells me I played Hades for over 50 hours (just reached the credits a bit earlier)
Incredible game
eager vortex
Now that it’s past midnight here, my Switch tells me I played Hades for over 50 hours (just reached the credits a bit earlier)
@misty ruin lmfao imagine being a switch pleb
pc master race for life
in all seriousness tho, gg
meager notch
yeah well what if he emulated Switch on PC only to play Hades on it huh?
earnest pike
I think I'm far enough into the game that I don't need to post in the newbie chat, but so we still mark spoilers here? Or is there like a place to talk and ask questions without having to spoiler tag everything?
eager vortex
nah we still need to tag spoilers
earnest pike
Darn I just wanna talk somewhere 😅
eager vortex
GUYS ||ZAG'S MOM ISNT ACTUALLY NIX||!!1!!!!!!!1
for spoiler stuff
you dont have to tag
earnest pike
It's spelled || Nyx ||
earnest pike
Haha all good
granite ether
(expect for end game 1.0 material in #h1-story-discussion)
eager vortex
yeah
earnest pike
Is it? The newbie chat seemed pretty active if I asked something people responded rather quickly
earnest pike
Cool cool I'm just on mobile alot so spoiler tags are a pain
eager vortex
oof
brisk trail
Oof
opaque bough
I play on pc but might get switch version because playing on Teevee is cool
also I could recruit my lil bro to maybe try to complete a run with each of us having one joycon
wide gust
dumb question, if you "give up" do you keep all the gems/darkness you've earned up until that point in the run?
opaque bough
don't think so. Give up also specifically maintains the "seed" that run had so you'll get the same rooms and stuff
if you want to quit with your rewards the best way is to let enemies or traps kill ya
wide gust
thanks
ebon hazel
grand venture
Mlem
calm laurel
Hades without context
eager vortex
fighting redacted on my 16th run, I have 2 death deffiances available
grand venture
gl
grand venture
What build?
grand venture
Like a screen before you either die or win
eager vortex
I can shred through ||champs of elysium|| so I should be good
meager notch
Only as good as you can dodge :)
lusty sphinx
Hi guys, do you know if SG told anywhere about ETA for switch crossave feature?
eager vortex
gonna go now
lusty sphinx
and add content?
@midnight garnet in the Reddit AMA they’ve said they just need some time to rest now since they’ve given everything to Hades 🙂 no news about possible future content.
grand venture
Can we mod for new zones and such???
just for kicks and just an idea, idk how to mod but just an idea.
comunity content and new weapons and such if possible.
lusty sphinx
Hi guys, do you know if SG told anywhere about ETA for switch crossave feature?
@lusty sphinx also found answer to this in FAQ - probably October release
grand venture
What do you think @lusty sphinx
meager notch
Can we mod for new zones and such???
Its possible
AFAIK there's even a Discord server dedicated to that
grand venture
Just an idea cause of the popularity of skyrim moddand and modding in general
brisk trail
||what is the pet thing||
meager notch
gratz!
eager vortex
I hope thats the avg amount of runs
grand venture
Post a screeni in #h1-victory-boasting @eager vortex to celebrate
eager vortex
yeah I will!
grand venture
My first was at 22 tries
grand venture
It's something like 25 to 30 tries I think
midnight garnet
ooh thanks @lusty sphinx do you have a link to the ama?
grand venture
Or between 30
grand venture
Xd
grand venture
My first was 22 also
meager notch
Some builds are just too good to lose with lol
lusty sphinx
ooh thanks @lusty sphinx do you have a link to the ama?
@midnight garnet
midnight garnet
thanks!!!!
rapid forum
yea once I got athena dash I was like "welp might as well"
eager vortex
first person to say gg in #h1-victory-boasting gets absolutely nothing
meager notch
figurines and plushies when
grand venture
... was a gif welp
rapid forum
wait for the bait to completely sink
brisk trail
But it sinks during several seconds?
meager notch
I need a plush and a figurine
brisk trail
Put this in #hades-feedback lol
meager notch
Was already suggested a bunch of time, and I'm certain we'll get them eventually
meager notch
||"ending"||
eager vortex
:0
meager notch
:)
rapid forum
||yea, I was like "dammit how many times do I have to beat you, old man?"||
eager vortex
damn
grand venture
10 wins and how many more wins until memes
meager notch
mhhm
eager vortex
hm ok
thorny apex
So i just got access to weapon aspects
Should i just spend my blood or wait for the fates to reveal more stuff
granite ether
good question, do what you think feels right
you can spend your blood play around with the unlocked aspect in the courtyard. If you don't like it quit out and reload the save
thorny apex
Is blood a very limited resource though?
Or over the course of the game i will get access to enough blood to unlock everything
pulsar blade
What's better, Olympian Favor, or Dark Foresight?
granite ether
they're both great imo
pulsar blade
I have dark foresight maxed out, but I just unlocked God's Pride and the other one
I forget what it's called
meager notch
They are, each fit for a different situation
granite ether
between ||styx shops|| broker deals, (best one is 15 keys for 1 titan blood imo) prophecies and bounties on each weapon you should get enough @thorny apex
midnight garnet
is there a way to check total play time on a save
pulsar blade
I hate fighting ||Theseus|| with a passion
meager notch
His shield makes me want to break his spine tbh
eager vortex
when he's down, he becomes easy to read
His shield makes me want to break his spine tbh
his personality makes me want to break his spine
rapid forum
I pretty much won without using DD thanks to ||acorn||
yea screw ||theseus||, he can eat a shoe
meager notch
His personality wouldn't be a problem if his face was easier to break
But alas, shield
He knows
Also its the perfect lead up to EM3
EM3 had me in tears from laughter lmao
meager notch
No, you'll get there when you'll get there :)
distant totem
damn I got spanked on my first bow run, broke my streak
it felt a lot harder than sword and spear, IDK how to deal with enemies that charge you like chariots
eager vortex
bow is hard to use at start
trust me tho
its the only weapon that Ive killed redacted with
just get the homing upgrade and get ability boosting boons
you'll wreck everything
distant totem
what boons are even good with zag bow besides attack boons?
rapid forum
bow with ares is my go to
....actually scratch that every weapon I use will always have ares in it
eager vortex
what boons are even good with zag bow besides attack boons?
dash boons
cause you can run away
and deal damage
distant totem
I had an artemis attack boon, that made the most sense since bow hits kinda slow
oh and ares dash, which was okay
eager vortex
yeah id say thats the only downside
bow is semi-slow
not good at aoe early game too
distant totem
well dark thirst is back on sword so I'll save bow for another day lol
ngl it was kinda boring just spamming dash attack over and over anyway
rapid forum
last run I had was ||nemesis aspect|| sword, I literally just spammed special lol
also I just found out if you press special and immediately dash it won't cancel the special
neato
opaque bough
it does eat your Iframes so you only use it to poke from range most of the time
distant totem
||nemesis sword|| is actually dash strike spam too lol, the bonus crit doesn't buff the special
rapid forum
well i did thought of that, had ||arty's dash strike and mark||
so the special crits too lel
distant totem
nice nice
it feels really silly when you get extra dashes from hermes
just zooming and poking all over the chamber
rapid forum
it does eat your Iframes so you only use it to poke from range most of the time
oh yea it did, I had ||athena's dash|| so I'm in the clear for the most part
eager vortex
why are you spoiler tagging boons lol
rapid forum
I just don't want to ruin the surprise 😛
granite cove
Just take the ||second bow aspect|| easiest run of your life.
silk scaffold
I just won for the first time yesterday, I don't even remember what weapon I had lol. I used the final Olympian's cast and just upgraded it to be faster and to have 5 casts and hid in a corner.
opaque bough
Tower Defense Hades edition
cloud delta
Where do I submit bug reports?
granite ether
F10 in game if pc, #h1-tech-support if switch (be sure to specify you're playing the switch version) @cloud delta
cloud delta
Thanks a bunch. 😄 Yeah, I'm on Steam. Good to know there's a bug report button. 😉
granite ether
no worries ^_^
vapid narwhal
I dunno bow is the first weapon I got to final boss with
explosive shot + faster attack + jolt
flat notch
Have the hades team talked or mentioned at all what their plans are yet for after 1.0? (E.g. additional content, moving straight to a new game etc)
wind wedge
The general, and justified, response has been that they're going to take a break before deciding.
shell ice
Yeah, they've given the general roadmap
oversee launch/deal with any pressing issues -> take a break -> decide what to do from there
supergiant doesnt tend to stick around on one IP past release, so i wouldnt expect anything
but with how successful hades has been, continued development is still a possibility
flat notch
Personally I wasn't expecting them to stick around post release, but damn, I'd be lying if I said I wish they wouldn't.
granite ether
from the #hades-faq
Now that Early Access is over, what's next?
Once we're sure our v1.0 launch has settled, our small team will be taking a break to recharge, and plan what's next. We'll be excited to say more about what's in store for us just as soon as we're ready.
flat notch
Ah, thank you Agg. I missed that
granite ether
no worries ^_^
barren ocean
I successfully convinced a friend to get Hades :D
brisk trail
congrats!
my roommates and i have all been playing hades for the last three days straight
it's so addicting
quasi grotto
I am sure this year hades will get game award for best indepentent game
slim seal
Oh I hope it will get an award !!
sharp kestrel
I just started this game 2 days ago, it's so addicting
unkempt sleet
Final boss is a spoiler , please use spoiler tag
sharp kestrel
oh sorry about that
unkempt sleet
Spoiler tags need || on both sides of what you want to mark as such