16 on one
#h1-discussion
grand venture
sharp fossil
i'm coming to the conclusion its prolly a bad idea, but its so much heat
fading gazelle
Woah there
fading gazelle
You get naturally fast running Tight Deadline
bitter heart
Losing to last boss after rushing the run is pretty upsetting
tawny light
lol
unkempt sleet
I think I have a 15:30 with TD3 FO2 EM3
fading gazelle
We should probs move to #h1-high-heat-strategies ?
tawny light
EM4 was going fine for me until he started tossing the spear
unkempt sleet
Probs
whole carbon
can you have multiple calls?
bitter heart
niet
tardy wagon
shame ||Bouldy|| doesn't have a keepsake
grand venture
daddy boldy
unkempt sleet
Bouldy in the codex when
tardy wagon
The only daddy is daddy chaos 👀
tardy wagon
give us a keepsake that gives us more damage the quicker we clear encounters or something, call it "rolling Stone"
unkempt sleet
There's this game called Rock of Ages
granite ether
we all know the main character in that game is Bouldy
unkempt sleet
@tardy wagon let me introduce you to Hermes keepsake
tardy wagon
@unkempt sleet Oh true
fading gazelle
Wasn't that a movie Thunder?
fading gazelle
Starring tom cruise?
grand venture
dragons and hatchlings
tardy wagon
Either way, remove that from hermes and make hermes keepsake give you an extra dodge or something xD
unkempt sleet
Is it? I only know the game
fading gazelle
I knew the movie I didn't know there was a game lmao
muted valley
theres 2 games lol
muted valley
i think also there's one more game of it coming out
fading gazelle
Hot damn how did I never hear of this?
unkempt sleet
I dunno
fading gazelle
YO ATLUS PUBLISHED THE GAME?
muted valley
its pretty good i have heard of it
grand venture
what game @fading gazelle ?
fading gazelle
Rock of the ages
grand venture
rock of ages 2
fading gazelle
Main character's name is bouldy
grand venture
rock of ages 3
unkempt sleet
Crossover confirmed
muted valley
well the main character dosent have a name technically
since its urs if i aint mistaken
left elk
Has anyone caught a legendary fish? Maybe they need to be @ high heat levels? Or just insanely rare?
muted valley
lol no
unkempt sleet
It's a very tight timing
granite ether
if the rock of ages discussion is gonna continue do so in #video-games please
muted valley
just get used to it
oops sry
@left elk i suggest trying to time when the prompt may appear
bitter heart
Even if you're fast enough, legendary have low droprate (5% according to wiki, but i'm pretty sure its higher now)
muted valley
thats what i do and it helps
tawny light
got a level 6 epic heartbreak strike on a nemesis sword with worldsplitter
haven't left tartarus yet, this run is going places.
bitter heart
Got a lvl12 heroic attack yesterday xD
tawny light
Oh snap, Ares offered me epic battle rage
left elk
@muted valley ive never missed a fish after the 1st one and have got probably over a hundred so far. I'm asking about the legendary fish in the codex. Seems like there are 3 types for each area. My 3rd type of fish is "unknown" in each area. But I have a prophecy to catch a legendary fish.
tawny light
Sure, I want my chops to do 400 damage. Why wouldnt I?
muted valley
to get legendaries you have to fish the exact second the prompt comes
so timing it lets you know when the prompt may appear letting you get perfect catches
which let u get legendaries
left elk
Oh is that confirmed? Dang i thought it was random! Thank you.
muted valley
lol i have all legendary fish
i dont have some regions normal fish
though those regions are more rare to get a spot in
bitter heart
legendary fishes: || Scyllascion, Flameater, Seamare, Stonewhal, Voidskate, Sturgeon ||
I'm missing common fishes from chaos and last area, can get slow enough XD
brisk trail
hii
muted valley
hi 😊
brisk trail
i just got hades yesterday and now im addicted lmao
bitter heart
The main reason why I hate EM4, is when I see a fish and lose the fight è____é
muted valley
lol
lime anvil
does hades have plans for multiplayer mode?
bitter heart
And ofc, when I run without EM4, no fish
lime anvil
dang ahha ok
muted valley
i have yet to get EM4 lol
marsh field
Tho I can totally see a local fight-off between two people running at same conditions starting at the same time
bitter heart
After first ending i believe ?
muted valley
post credits i believe
@marsh field that would insinuate 2 zagreuses
at the same time
bitter heart
If Chaos would sneeze, could happen
marsh field
Are you suggesting the world might collapse due to the paradox?
I'd be up for that, bring on Bastion
wind wedge
So, mildly annoying thing: Doing Skelly's task (||killing him with Stygius Aspect of Zagreus, MAX level||)... doesn't trigger if you actually just to exactly what it says. (I already talked to him, ||went to the Broker and did enough trades to get the Titan Blood for the upgrade, ran back, maxed out Stygius... killed Skelly, and... nothing.||) I guess that what you actually need to do is to do another run so you can "reset" the conversation counter... but it would be much less vexing if it just triggered when I actually hit the condition mentioned.
unkempt sleet
Please use REDACTED instead of the name
left elk
Final fists aspect
Special Doom
Heatbreak Attack weak
Doom continuously effects weak
Revenge effects triggers every 3 seconds
Revenge doom
Revenge chill
Revenge weak
Revenge Lightning bolts
This is crazy. Just killed 3rd boss in seconds. Their health gate shields both popped at the same time. Their shields were the longest part of the fight. Lol.
unkempt sleet
Autorevenge is a good build
tardy wagon
Doom on Zeus aspect shield is fun as well
just dash around the room while the shield tries to return xD
unkempt sleet
I should use Zeus more, I'm too used to Chaos
tardy wagon
Same, it's the only reason i'm using the Zeus aspect atmxD
left elk
I didn't like zues at first. Seemed to low damage. I have learned the error of my ways. All the gods can get crazy tbh. So many amazing combos and builds.
grand venture
How to fight game name
tawny light
Jesus, I'm so bad with Nemesis sword
think any other day this is like an easy 32 heat
bu here I am, punting it.
😠
real elm
any1 know hot to unlock the last locked heart of poseidon? do i need to do any special stuff i try fishing and i have around 200 fish so it can be it right?
unkempt sleet
Catch a lot of fish, then get the RNG dialog
reef pasture
Are you asking about how to unlock Poseidon's heart to gift him Ambrosia? The guide I linked you should have specified exactly how to do that, if it was unclear please let me know and I will try to re-explain and update my guide. If you're asking a different question, then nvm.
lavish yew
so what was updated in that 30 MB patch 
wind wedge
So, mildly annoying thing: Doing Skelly's task (||killing him with Stygius Aspect of Zagreus, MAX level||)... doesn't trigger if you actually just to exactly what it says. (I already talked to him, ||went to the Broker and did enough trades to get the Titan Blood for the upgrade, ran back, maxed out Stygius... killed Skelly, and... nothing.||) I guess that what you actually need to do is to do another run so you can "reset" the conversation counter... but it would be much less vexing if it just triggered when I actually hit the condition mentioned.
@wind wedge As it happens, even doing another run didn't unlock this - I meet the conditions that the prophecy mentions, but don't get anything special when I "do" it, and there isn't a dialogue with Skelly happening. Anyone have any ideas?
left elk
||Did skelly say somthing when you equiped the sword? You might have to have another aspect unlocked so you can switch to the zag aspect. When you equip it he says "that's it! Now kill me with it!" Or some such thing. I would submit a bug report as well.|| @wind wedge
subtle cobalt
What are some good aspects worth investing into?
wind wedge
Nah, he doesn't say anything when|| I equip it - and I've tried switching between weapons (but not between Stygius Aspects, as I didn't unlock any others, and don't have enough Titan Blood to unlock any at this point).|| It's pretty annoying if you actually have to ||unlock specifically Stygius aspects in addition||, since it's not mentioned, and I spent a lot of resources at the Broker to meet what the requirement was stated to be 😦 .
(Plus, I was wanting to get the reward for the Minor Prophecy to pay for some other unlocks, so now I'm a bit stuck for progression in general...)
tardy wagon
You're never stuck for progression
you just need to farm more in enoucnters over just grinding out the broker
wind wedge
I mean, I could certainly go grind more, yes
left elk
I agree %100. You shouldn't have to do anything of the sort. Just an idea to "fix" what definitely sounds like a bug.
wind wedge
but given that I played fair by what the requirements were stated to be, it feels a mite unfair.
(and yeah, I appreciate the suggestion, Kelbi Hunter)
tardy wagon
tbf i'm still trying to unlock the last shield aspect
Chaos still won't give it to me ;u;
vapid crown
anyone know if it's intended that Life Affirmation doesn't affect the max HP bonus from Sweet Nectar? You just get a flat 25 max health
Seems like a bug?
left elk
@tardy wagon releationship is necessary. I loaded a game with artemis keepsake and she didn't give me the aspect. I quit out, did it again but gave a nectar first and she gave it to me.
gusty slate
Relationship isn't necessary? it's all RNG?
gusty slate
Hm. There is RNG dialogue though
left elk
Nah it was for a diffrent weapon. But I had chaos hearts maxed to the lock out early and shield was the first one I got after spear
left elk
Just an example to prove relationship needs to be a few hearts first I think. I would bet on it.
brazen marten
what is it proficiency fulfilled from boons? what is give me?
left elk
@brazen marten the desk in your room once you unlock it gives rewards for doing stuff.
gusty slate
The specific prophecy might be to use all the God's boons
left elk
You can also check your codex to see the ones you still need for the prophecy, and it tells you the requirements (what other boons you need) to get it to show up.
Seeing boons in the codex might be an unlock as well. I don't remember.
gusty slate
If they have the codex upgrade unlocked though, right?
left elk
I think so.
But it's very worth it. You can hunt down duo boons fairly easy with the upgrade that lets you switch keepsakes after a boss. (Once you know what the requirements are to get a specific duo boon as an option)
gusty slate
Of course, if it's available to them 
brazen marten
should i gift the gods always some nectars?
gusty slate
If you have given everyone at least 1 nectar it can be nice
Need to for some progression
brisk trail
I give one nectar to everyone and then that’s it unless I actually want to have unique dialogue
left elk
@brazen marten minor spoilers ||zeus/artemis also will give you new weapon aspects if you max a diffrent aspect of the gun/bow and talk to them while it's equipped|| i am very sure this can't happen at only 1 heart. I tested it kinda.
gusty slate
In that line of spoilers some characters are quite nice if you max their relationship
Highly recommend
subtle cobalt
What are the best summons?
tardy wagon
Meg looks pretty good with the Poison i think she has?
not actually got any summons yet
gusty slate
Personal preference I believe
brazen marten
what is it dou boons?
gusty slate
They're fairly uncommon boons that have pre-reqs between 2 Gods
They ||allow an interaction between the 2 God's themes||
left elk
@subtle cobalt ||personal preference for sure. I love bouldy to smash a group and give me coin & health and skelly can make some bosses a joke (with a build that doesn't also damage skelly lol)|| definitely there is no "best summon"
lean path
How do I progress with a character if they have a heart with a lock on it?
gusty slate
Need to hit RNG dialogue and/or do a favour for them
plain musk
How is it that I have the achievement to max rank each keepsake but I don't have the achievement to unlock each keepsake...
Is that one bugged for anyone else?
steel flicker
oh, same here, just noticed
steel flicker
It's even stranger that I haven't maxed out all of my keepsakes
but I have the achievement
plain musk
It doesn't count the companions
void vigil
Yeah, that achievement is bugged and unlocked upon starting the game for some people
brisk trail
Weird
steel flicker
Yeah, I know, I have all god keepsakes on lvl2
It doesn't count the companions
plain musk
Oh. Weird
void vigil
it might’ve been fixed, I don’t know
plain musk
Oh, you mean the max rank achievement, not the own all keepsakes achievement
subtle cobalt
What would be a good dps build?
tiny bobcat
new bow aspect + zeus special boon
this basically ends the run
spam Y, then you're good
tiny bobcat
is there such themes? best advice, keep playing and talk to your father
still isle
does anyone remember the lines that you have to say to unlock the 4th aspects
I remember they were pretty damn cool
tiny bobcat
heats dont matter when it comes to unlockables
i mean for some yep, but for it? no i think
@still isle artemis one was badass, though i forget such things easily
tiny bobcat
zag's memory is lit, i cannot remember even the names of my friends
from time to time...
tiny bobcat
it might be, maybe it's a quirk
still sand
What is summon? I see it assigned to the left trigger and I want reload to go there. I know I've never used it for anything.
unkempt sleet
It's unlocked as part of some relationships
still isle
^
still sand
Yea I'm a swap buttons with reload then. Something tells me I won't summoning as much as I'll be reloading
rain cedar
Hey guys! I just turned on Forced overtime (10 Heat) and ... It's like I havn't played this game before... EVERYTHING hits me, the Mini Bosses that were a cakewalk before suddenly slice my health away like it's nothing ... Any tips for Forced overtime?
verbal sky
I need four more foil cards for the badge
rain cedar
WHy is this so much harder suddenly? It wasn't like that for any other heat modifier? x-D
gusty slate
FO? yeah it's a whole new game with FO
unkempt sleet
Speeding up all the animations makes everything harder, but it's just a matter of adjusting to the new speed
gusty slate
Just gotta keep playing with it to get used to it
You have to train your brain again
unkempt sleet
It took me a lot to get used to FO2 Final Boss
wary eagle
is there a prereq to unlocking Extremer Measures?
gusty slate
There is a prereq for EM4, but that just takes time...
unkempt sleet
I think you need to finish the game for EM4 to appear
wary eagle
i have.. up to heat 20 😦
brisk trail
What is the easiest way to defeat ||theseus and the minotaur||?
gusty slate
The other EM should be open?
unkempt sleet
Focus on A first and stay behind pillars
T isn't really an issue when A isn't there
gusty slate
I like using my cheese builds, demeter cast or ricochet hammers can be nice
brisk trail
By "a" you mean ||the minotaur||?
wary eagle
dodge with fists + plume is great when nothing can hit you
finishing the game at 65% dodge
gusty slate
Wish we had a stat card so I could see what my actual dodge chance is
unkempt sleet
||His name is Asterius, yes||
wary eagle
I miss the attack speed on the fists of zag 😦
near comet
question
gusty slate
The attack speed didn't work actually
near comet
does anyone else think that aspect of lucifer is bugged
gusty slate
On Zag aspect notes said it only affected the first hit lol
unkempt sleet
what do you mean chief
near comet
ive fulfilled all the requirements and seen 30+ zeus boons
and he wont tell me about it
gusty slate
RNG dialogues, might be one where you need to equip the weapon
near comet
im using rail
unkempt sleet
The requirement for what, his bond?
unkempt sleet
Oh that's just RNG
unkempt sleet
yeah sometimes it be like that
gusty slate
RNG, may need to build bond with Zeus a bit
wary eagle
/pray to rngesus then
unkempt sleet
Also I don't know if it's just me but if you use his keepsake it might interfere with it?
wary eagle
i build bonds with everyone.. lol
unkempt sleet
I know It definetly felt like that for me when I tried unlocking Rama and Artemis' bond
near comet
in fact i remember a few guides suggesting i use it to force it
unkempt sleet
I guess it's just RNG then
near comet
ill try without it next run
near comet
ok funny
now that i talk about it
he doesnt give it to me
but he mentions the rail
grand summit
More people need to pet the dog.
gusty slate
I refuse
grand summit
PSA: Pet the dog
unkempt sleet
Well if he has never seen the rail he can't tell you that he sees its fall from the heavens
grand summit
Dog loves pets
sinful spruce
Is it just me or is Exagryph the worst weapon?
steel lintel
Exagryph is overpowered
unkempt sleet
Nah, it's just very different.
Although the high attack rate makes it good with several gods.
gusty slate
All the weapons are fairly balanced, but it's down to personal preference
near comet
but thats the weird part about this
ive used the rail with him several times
and only now he mentions it at all
steel lintel
I got the codex after my 50th run, rng can be annoying sometimes
gusty slate
Yeah, but there may still exist required dialogue depending on other events happening
or RNG is just being real mean
left elk
I'm gonna try an exogryph run to get Poseidon attack and duo zeus boon when you push back an enemy they get struck with lightning. But knock back on the rail normal is so weak will it trigger on the final boss I wonder? Last time I tried it wasn't enough to trigger breaking wave.
@queen marsh what one is that?
queen marsh
duo aphrodite and athenas...every mob just moves too much for it to be worth
left elk
It lets you get cast backstabs or jus adds some damage based on your extra backstab mods?
gusty slate
Probably extra? the wording actually gets me
left elk
Yeah.
gusty slate
That sounds right
left elk
@queen marsh even if your cast hits them in the front?
queen marsh
only backstab
if it gave that bonus to the front it would be good actually
but i guess it wouldnt make sense xD
maybe it works if i can exchange my cast to artemis and really focus on backstabing with it
pseudo wagon
I've got a weird issue, the contractor has a ! but I can't find anything new
left elk
I can't get a fishing spot fast enough to catch a legendary fish. Any tips? Someone here told me a few hours ago if you press the button fast enough you get a legendary. But... can that be true? Will I never catch a legendary fish? It must be RNG on some level right? 😩
gusty slate
Holdon lemme tell you the stats on that
Less than 0.34 second: Perfect catch. Guaranteed to catch a Rare fish. 5% chance to catch a Legendary fish
0.34 second to 1.0 second: Catch. 5% chance to catch a Rare fish.
After 1 second: fail with a "Too Late" message.
So you gota be pretty quick once that light comes up
Even then... the chance
queen marsh
dont worry buddy i have 250 hours in the game and literally the only thing i'm missing on my codex is a fish
left elk
Ohhhhhh. It's still only %5
Thank you.
Wow that sucks for me. Lol
pseudo wagon
I just scrolled through all the tabs
left elk
@gusty slate where you find those stats?
pseudo wagon
if I leave the room and come back he has the ! again
gusty slate
Wiki, someone looked at the code
gusty slate
I get a 3 minute run when I die in Tartarus
quartz knoll
I will now proceed to hang myself out of shame
gusty slate
oof 
left elk
@pseudo wagon I had that happen too, and it went away after a while. 🤷♂️
gusty slate
But that means you can do it again
quartz knoll
and second room sack on Styx
no skill is enough to get a second room sack
sadly
strange plover
watch him get only shield enemies in elysium
gusty slate
Not if you don't believeeee
quartz knoll
lmfao
the shield dude is nothing to this build
it's because it's Rama Zeus special
gusty slate
Ricochet is one of the most fun things
quartz knoll
the worst thing for this build is actually the tiny vermin
and I didn't fight it this run
so I'm all good
hot shore
Bruh to get the hidden aspect on the spear?
quartz knoll
go to spoilerI guess
gusty slate
#h1-story-discussion has it pinned
quartz knoll
it's not allowed here
gusty slate
I mean you just said 4th aspect name 
quartz knoll
lmfao
|| rama bow up Hades ass||
also it hurts even worse when top 5 record is 13m
I COULD'VE GOT MY NAME IN TOP 5
cold shuttle
whats a good hammer for aspect of arthur
quartz knoll
none
it doesn't really need a hammer
but if you can, aura range is a good one
other than that
strange plover
i mean you can't really improve perfection
mild thistle
I love Shadow Slash on it personally. The Arthur exclusive hammer (the name escapes me atm. Greater Consecration?) is nice too, but not as beneficial
Though thats mostly because my monkey brain loves it when big number get bigger haha
ebon pier
yay ending
subtle cobalt
Can i give a gift to the question mark guy in elysium?
elder shard
hahahahahahahaha, i just reached theseus and asterius with extreme measures and i laughed my ass off on what the devs gave theseus
mild thistle
You'll need to learn his name first. IIRC easiest way to do that is by looking at the Codex after meeting him.
gusty slate
I thought that was the only way lol
strange plover
hahahahahahahaha, i just reached theseus and asterius with extreme measures and i laughed my ass off on what the devs gave theseus
@elder shard early serious sam 4 cosplay
wheat pecan
I absolutely love this game and I hate Roguelike games and dungeon crawlers. The feels are just so good y'all.
I know Super Giant doesn't do sequels and I love that they constantly switch it up. But I'm desperately needing more of this story.
smoky wharf
Hey guys do i fight ||Charon|| this run?
wheat pecan
Yes @smoky wharf because I just did literally last fight. Let's be brothers in it.
gusty slate
The Fates believe you have suffered enough
safe jolt
Yeah right as if the daughters of styx were fare at all...
smoky wharf
oof
i lost
rip the run
would probs be 10x easier if i had deflect attack considering i was using the sword
zinc shore
Do they ever explain the narrator in the game? There's weird fourth wall breaks all the time that actually propel the story
smoky wharf
idk
gusty slate
I think we can piece things together, but I don't recall it ever being explicitly said
hollow lark
was wondering if the pet cerberus achievement is bugged?
i spam pet him and didnt get it and ive pet him a lot in the past
gusty slate
Wouldn't be surprised, but it was given to me just fine after I pet required amount and went to bedroom
hollow lark
hm maybe its capped after each run? like you can only get 1 pet progress each run
gusty slate
That's a possibility, but I don't remember that being a thing. The achievements haven't been the most functional xD
mild thistle
Head to your room, it should pop up there
It's what happened for me, oddly enough, after petting the good boi a whole bunch
gusty slate
They only just recently added achievements in v1.0, so the bugs are from that probably
hollow lark
it did give me most of the achievements after full release tho
only this one im having issue with
mild thistle
Might be because the game only saves your 'Cerberus Pet Count' after moving from room to room, like it does other stuff (contractor, titan blood investment, etc. etc.)
hollow lark
nvm you guys were right
mild thistle
Just a weird little quirk with how the game records and saves stuff, i'd imagine
mild thistle
No problem my man, happy to help out.
smoky wharf
Hermes or Artemis?
gusty slate
Depends what you want more
smoky wharf
idk what i want more hence the question
gusty slate
Hermes is nice support
smoky wharf
kinda fine with either one tbh
mild thistle
Personally I'd go for Hermes
gusty slate
Artemis if you're looking to build damage
silent axle
guys how do i unlock victory themes
smoky wharf
i'll take artemis
gusty slate
Also Artemis can help you get Duos
Was about to say if you had boon rerolls, could try for extra dash or something from Hermes
hollow lark
idk if its just me but i feel like hermes has had much lower rarity boons since release
like nearly always common especially for attack and special speed
hollow lark
so is mine
gusty slate
Even on my new save I'm seeing rares and epics
hollow lark
havent seen a rare or epic attack speed since full release :(
hollow lark
big rip
near comet
another question
smoky wharf
Pog just got the artemis call
near comet
ive purchased EVERYTHING for the room
could it be bugged that the aphrodite scroll isnt showing up?
or do i have to further my relationship with her
smoky wharf
also i got lucky and only beat the game with ||guan yu|| because the ||true ending|| decided to show up
hollow lark
do you mean the poster?
near comet
yes
hollow lark
probably a relationship thing id guess
near comet
someone told me it most likely was
ill try it
he says dionysus' also showed up after gifting
and ive been grinding out nectar for the house so i havent focused on them
unkempt vine
Hello! New member here, does anyone know if they're going to release a physical edition of the game for Nintedo Switch? So I can buy it now or rather wait for the pysical version. Thank you in advance!
queen frigate
I don’t think there has been any announcement of that yet. @unkempt vine
I will buy it again if they do though...
gusty slate
Yeah they should pop up after a few runs
zinc nacelle
and why am i always getting boons to buff them
but never one that unlocks it
only once
gusty slate
Onceyou get the first one it's all RNG
zinc nacelle
._.
gusty slate
Wait what
zinc nacelle
hm
gusty slate
If you get boons to buff them you should have a call o.O?
gusty slate
like call% ones?
zinc nacelle
"your call makes lightning rapidly strike......."
that one
and similar ones
every run
gusty slate
that is a call
zinc nacelle
that unlocks it?
gusty slate
Yeah
gusty slate
Once you pick that boon it is yours and you now have a call that does something
gusty slate
Fairly good
They can briefly provide immunity-frames
and tend to do pretty good damage
or are good support
Try them out, they're neat
still sand
yup
zinc nacelle
how often can you active those calls
still sand
I already closed the game
gusty slate
No that's fine, it's working with your save data
in your file explorer
Calls have a bar under your hp that tell you when you can use them
still sand
Aight lemme check it out
gusty slate
Well unless you already went into bedroom :/
still sand
I did not
final plank
I'm really craving for a GOG release, I know that at least the Steam release had no DRM but mere fact of installing Steam to install only one game and then uninstall steam because I want to be as far away from that thing, really bothers me.
gusty slate
Bar calls refill each room
From doing damage and taking damage
unless a boon says otherwise
hexed tiger
what's the latest version?
gusty slate
Are we not able to run Hades from its folder?
hexed tiger
v1.36076?
hexed tiger
cheers
gusty slate
Should be most updated
hexed tiger
now time to grab a beer and play it
brisk trail
Gl
wet holly
How do I unlock the "locked" hearts after giving enough nectar?
gusty slate
YOu must complete their favour or RNG dialogue... or both
echo badger
should i be maxing god's pride or legacy
wet holly
How to unlock either? For Sisyphus
trail raven
Okay , I am sure i've petted cerberus more than 10 times
still dont have the achievement
echo badger
i finished everything else besides fated
trail raven
whot the hell
gusty slate
Go into bedroom
Has something to do with saving
For sis... just gotta keep talking to people in the house until it works lol
That one requires... like 4-5 people's input
wet holly
Ok, I keep talking to everyone
hexed tiger
already dead
but the combat is nice as hell
but i picked something in the beginning
not really sure what
do that matter on my build?
because im not going to focuse on such on this run, just go in and play blind
i picked the first option
gusty slate
?
hexed tiger
at the very beginning it wanted me to pick a special attack
gusty slate
If you give 
to people for the first time you'll get something tha cana affect runs
hexed tiger
or something
maiden mulch
that just affects the current run
hexed tiger
oh ok
gusty slate
Oh, yeah they affect your current run. Boons from Gods are how you make a build
maiden mulch
as a general rule, any ability you get in the hub is permanent, any ability you get during a run is just for that run
smoky wharf
tfw you see an infernal trove but you've already opened the door to the next room
stuck wave
Hello everyone, Have the devs said anything about post 1.0 yet ?
maiden mulch
they haven't ruled anything out, but haven't confirmed anything other than taking a break and deciding what to do after that
stuck wave
Good to know, thanks
still sand
Now I'm trouble shooting my game. I don't understand. It was literally working fine.
gusty slate
Oh no, have I led you astray
still sand
I haven't been able to get it to turn back on now
glad root
Is there a way to check how many enemies you've killed for Ares' "War-God's Bloodlust"?
and do you just randomly trigger it by talking to Ares at some point?
sand forum
Playing this game i have a feeling like i had like i was 11 and d2 comes out
gusty slate
Scrying Pool can tell you # of kills
agile sedge
jade crescent
what do yall take, family favorite (more damage per unique god's boon), or privileged status (bonus damage on enemies with 2 status effects)? I figured FF was better, but I just realized if you have 5 artemis boons, it only gives you the bonus of having 1
maiden mulch
well yeah, if it was an extra 5% damage per boon that would be incomprehensibly broken
granite cove
I like FF because you will always take advantage of the additional dmg. You are not forced to have 2 debuffs up
jade crescent
yet instead, you have to forgo stacking into specific god's trees and instead spec into everyone, so is it better to make sure you get 2 debuffing gods
maiden mulch
i think PS is the meta choice because it gives more damage if you keep it in mind, but FF is easier to use passively
granite cove
Well I rarely have two debuffs up
maiden mulch
statuses are very good though and PS gives you an additional incentive to use them
jade crescent
well weak is a super easy one to upkeep and forget about, what are some other simple debuffs?
maiden mulch
well that's like saying Boiling Blood is useless because you never cast, it's supposed to change your playstyle
jade crescent
jolted is tier 2 zeus, poseidon and artemis don't have any tier 1s
granite cove
Yes but FF gives always dmg. It does not matter what build
jade crescent
does cast stuck inside someone count as a debuff?
granite cove
Good question
maiden mulch
easier but less dmg, or more dmg with effort, one is not strictly better, but PS has higher potential
jade crescent
FF has higher potential if you can stack that high
maiden mulch
remember the 4 god slot rule
granite cove
I admit that it has more potential. But in the end it often does nothing.
maiden mulch
if you do nothing to make it work, it does nothing
jade crescent
PS has more consistent results if you keep it in mind
granite cove
Also you usually get multiple gods using some passive boons
maiden mulch
you have to actively take advantage of PS, it won't passively help you
granite cove
Yes I understand
light blaze
Anyone here that plays Hades on the Nintendo Switch?
maiden mulch
FF does passively help you because you'll naturally get boons from different gods
granite cove
But I don't like to prepare much to do the additional damage. Like using cast in a no cast build just for the buff
jade crescent
whereas you are always getting boons, you're gonna get at least some passive benefit with FF
granite cove
Yes that's the advantage of FF
maiden mulch
you don't have to think about FF to benefit from it, PS gives you a bigger benefit but you have to think about it
jade crescent
unless you stack 9 different gods lmao
maiden mulch
which makes PS being purple and FF being green kind of weird, usually green is the more situational one that you have to think about
light blaze
I'll take that as a no, for now
granite cove
It happens more often than not that you have a certain build and you don't need any of the boons of the other gods but they at least give you dmg
jade crescent
so what are all the tier 1 debuffs, is it just dio and aphrodite?
oh and ares but 🤢
maiden mulch
you're undervaluing Doom
granite cove
Doom is strong
summer ermine
Is Stubborn defiance being changed to not work after rooms have been cleared, seems so cheese to die on purpose for a heal.
jade crescent
it's delayed damage, useless in ad clear when you just want to nuke/instantly kill everything
granite cove
But You have to invest in doom to make it good
jade crescent
exactly
granite cove
Strong vs boss fights combine with stacking
jade crescent
but you need the athena duo right?
jade crescent
hangover stacks by default and does a lot of boss damage
granite cove
Or artemis or dio
maiden mulch
just regular unmodified doom on an AoE attack is strong
granite cove
Had a run with every boon supporting doom. Easiest escape xD
supple field
demeter has chill
maiden mulch
like the bow special
cobalt prairie
Hey quick question, I played hades before and the mirror allowed you to use 2 different kinds of abilities per line, I started a new save to re experience the game but i cant seem to swap is there an unlock point for that? i cant seem to find info on it anywhere
gusty slate
Rail doom might have to try that...
Nyx will tell you after a few runs that you have 2 side sof mirror
granite cove
You need stack for that
maiden mulch
rail or fists with hangover on normal is also really good
cobalt prairie
ok cool ill keep an eye out for that!
light helm
Anybody had their mirror of night break completely? I can't put any darkness in after rerolling it...
gusty slate
Uh.... re-interact?
light helm
Not helping 😄
granite cove
Im positively surprised that every build is valid
gusty slate
Might be bugged then
light helm
Will do. Thanks.
fallen path
Do we have to win a 1 heat game to get the titan blood/diamond in heat 2 ?
supple field
yes
fallen path
oof then
supple field
theoretically you can do heat 2 and get heat 1 rewards but you'll have to do it twice in order to get heat 1 and 2 rewards
maiden mulch
if you can get a 0 heat win you can get a 1 heat win
lean path
the best one to begin with 1 heat is the bottom one, basically means you have 36 mins to complete the run
opaque nexus
Does doom count for privileged status
maiden mulch
Or EM1 if you value a fun fight over the easiest setup
jade crescent
extreme measures is nice, it's just bonus mechanics and it's good to learn for later
it should cin
plus EM1 is only just some more aoes in the fury fight
and some blade rifts
coral verge
anyone knows how much Darkness it takes to max out Fated Persuasion?
jade crescent
it's on the wiki, I believe it's around 100k
opaque nexus
There is a heat tier list basically saying which modifiers are the easiest and hardest
coral verge
ah, was wondering if it had been changed. thanks. farming Darkness is gonna be long
opaque nexus
Tight deadline 1 and 2 are free, 3 is a little tough
jade crescent
they also put the 15% bonus health one in D tier.... it's free
opaque nexus
It can slow you down
flint ember
can i only reload the rail when it hits 0 ammo?
jade crescent
nah you can reload on max
opaque nexus
Yes but you should pretty much always have at least 1 TD
maiden mulch
Fated Authority and Persuasion costs were chopped down to 11K and 10K total respectively
jade crescent
oh, ez win
maiden mulch
They're not meant to be super long term darkness sinks anymore
jade crescent
and they max at 10?
maiden mulch
8 and 4
jade crescent
oh, huh, odd numbers
fallen path
I'd rather take more damages from traps and lava
maiden mulch
That can one shot you in Styx if you're not careful
jade crescent
150 damage from an axe 
dusk mantle
Does boss fights count as "Encounters" ? Asking because if Well of Charon boons will have effect in boss fight ?
supple field
i started with the traps damage one
flat vapor
bosses are encounters, yes
(but some effects refer to Standard encounters, which bosses are not)
dusk mantle
Okay thanks!
jade crescent
how about minibosses?
witch circle/medusa head vs asterius are either type standard?
hybrid parcel
ugh talking of the extra trap damage one... how do people live with that? I am somehow constantly walking into magma
jade crescent
especially with EM2
supple field
just don’t
scarlet ice
does asphodel's lava count as trap damage
supple field
yes
jade crescent
yup 
supple field
autocorrect lol
scarlet ice
thanks
supple field
scarlet ice
and i'm assuming the lava puddles that shoot out are also traps
supple field
never tested that myself but most likely
jade crescent
certainly the ones in normal encounters, I would guess the hydras are the same type
flint ember
is something wrong with my game 😦 when i hit "R" when the ammo isnt 0, it doesnt do anything. so like if its 7/12 and i hit R, it doesnt reload
scarlet ice
have you double-checked the key binding
queen wharf
Does "Rarity" like Yarn of Ariadne give a greater chance for Duo Boons?
opaque bough
narrow hemlock
devs dont respond to feedback channel. it depends on what you want to talk to them about. if its general questions about the game you can prob just ask here
quaint wind
you could also email them, check the contact us page on the website
lucid sail
Question : keepsake of Hermes have a limit?
narrow hemlock
theres a timer on it
flint ember
for blood frenzy, does it work after 1 death defiance, or needs to be all gone
the boon that gives you +dmg after using death defiance
also does it activate if you used death defiance before in the run, but then restored a charge of it?
brisk trail
One question, how unlock the last aspect of weapons of each weapons pls
void vigil
check the pins in #h1-story-discussion
void vigil
the keepsake only works in the last room of every tunnel
hallow cargo
is there a reliable way of getting a god to overwrite another god's boon?
in the main slots, obviously
cobalt maple
i think it only offers that if the new boon would have better rarity
so probably most reliable way is to wash the old boon
queen frigate
Does an Erebus gate count as a chamber? Like does it contribute to the chamber total before boss rooms?
median sluice
queen frigate
Hmmm. Okay. Seems like Erebus is rarely worth in that case.
opaque nexus
sigh another fist run trying to get the ||hidden aspect without asterius mini boss||
that was supposed to be a spoiler lol
floral shore
Erebus gives double rewards for non-boons and higher rarity boons.
If you think you can take it without getting bonked it's super worth it.
burnt lantern
If I get cathonic purse after a boss fight it still gives me the once per run 150 yes?
queen frigate
I know that, but it would be a no brainer if it didn’t contribute.
floral shore
Yup, but It'll only works once.
burnt lantern
Okay cool
cobalt maple
oh god
i just found out that you can mercilessly slay the random shades in the first room of the run
gusty slate
supple field
gusty slate
If you do that in ||Sisyphus' room|| you'll be asked whyman
left elk
@opaque nexus ||good news is that if you have already unlocked most of his dialog you only need to talk to him twice. Once wearing the fists, and again with a max aspect. Worked for me. Took about 5 runs to see him twice.||
ebon thistle
Can anyone confirm if \ how golden touch works on the last floor?
queen frigate
Doesn’t golden touch give you more money per region?
ebon thistle
Yes, exactly
queen frigate
Styx is a new region
ebon thistle
I wondered if temple of styx counts as a region
queen frigate
Yes
deep marten
Golden touch triggers when you enter the room past the boss
ebon thistle
Yea, but the boss on the last floor is final, so it doesnt trigger there at all?
i figured it procs once i get satyr sack
but im not sure
queen frigate
So you can change keepsakes after the bros without missing out on money?
gusty swift
Welp, guess I have to be Hades for Halloween now. https://twitter.com/RetroNutcase/status/1309932261429698561 (see the first post for context)
deep marten
Golden touch is a mirror buff, not a keepsake
ebon thistle
ye
queen frigate
Oh yeah. I’m an idiot
gusty swift
Lost my 30+ win streak last night. To him. T_T
ebon thistle
so it doesnt work on temple of styx, i assume?
deep marten
Can't be sure, but as far as I remember, no
I mean, not like you have anywhere to spend that cash after that anyway
queen frigate
What’s the value that makes golden touch worth it over the starting obols? You’d need to have quite a bit by Styx for it to be worth it.
gusty slate
I'm a master hoarder
deep marten
If you're saving obols, it's going to give you more in the long run
woeful finch
It can yield way more than 100 if you aren’t spending early
cobalt maple
probably more useful with the increased price punishment
since you literally can't spend early then
queen frigate
I usually have to spend early or I leave Tartarus with like two boons.
deep marten
Basically, get it if you wanna get the extra diamond or titan blood in the river of styx shop
ebon thistle
If you finish tartarus with 100+ and other regions with 300+ at least, its already slightly more
woeful finch
I usually don’t visit the shop in Tartarus if I can avoid it. Even if I do, I probably won’t buy a boon unless it’s something I’m specifically looking for
ebon thistle
Plus you can start with hypnos pouch
gusty slate
I mean there are pluses and minuses for either, shrug
I know my hoarding playstyle makes that investment better for me personally
deep marten
Oh, and if you get an early Side Hustle, you'll be able to buy out the whole Styx shop
woeful finch
It’s also really good if you sell boons a lot
ebon thistle
Starting obols surely better if you spending it right away, im just hoarding for those titan blood and diamonds at the final shop
queen frigate
That’s fair
woeful finch
I often take an epic or legendary boon that isn’t that great just to sell it
radiant harbor
If you skip a Fishing spot, does it still trigger the cooldown for next fishing spot to spawn of ~10 chambers since previous one?
ebon thistle
Side Hustle is just the best
radiant harbor
i.e. could you skip a fishing spot in one zone to get a higher chance of getting it in a latte rzone
queen frigate
Does Poseidon’s increased resource boon apply to golden touch?
real jackal
The year is 2050. 80 heat runs are now streamlined. People still enjoy getting Rare Crop
queen frigate
That implies that the game will get additional content.
real jackal
All additional content was forsaken in favor of Rare Crop
narrow hemlock
@radiant harbor fishing spot still counts, whether you interact with it or not. so even if you skip it/miss it, you'll still be under cooldown for another fishing point
near comet
ok
this is my new favorite weapon in the game
aspect of lucifer go brrrrrrrrrr
anyone got boon recommendations? about to start an actual run with it
is zeus attack still just as effective as with other guns?
fair dove
Bow is boring
hollow lark
Shield with chaos or Zeus is fun
fallen violet
I have chaos shield
fair dove
Screw the bow
hollow lark
Chaos shield is busted
fallen violet
Shouldn't lose to this guy
hollow lark
Literally insanely broken
hollow lark
?
fallen violet
I have 47 damage
hollow lark
Are you just not using any attacks
fallen violet
on the last fight
hollow lark
Ok did you just never grab a single boon
fair dove
Just deal more damage lol
hollow lark
It’s honestly just ur build or however ur playing lol
Shield of chaos does gross dmg
hollow lark
Which boon
hollow lark
Yea that’s not a good pick for it
hollow lark
Doom is really good for speed running through rooms with chaos
fair dove
Doom on chaos shield special is real nice
hollow lark
Yeeeee
fair dove
Y
hollow lark
Ares keepsake bb
hollow lark
Chaos shield like the best abuser of doom
But honestly every boon works on chaos shield special
Also how many points do you have in it
Cus you need a lot of Titan blood for it
Like once it’s maxed then it’s ridiculous
hollow lark
Shield in general is pretty damn strong since you just get insane blocks
fallen violet
I like any other weapon
hollow lark
I can see it not being fun
fallen violet
Including rail
hollow lark
But it just chunks
hollow lark
Like big dmg
hollow lark
shield of chaos is how i beat 32 heat
32 heat is easier now tho i think better heat options
and shield of chaos got nerfed i think?
fallen violet
I can see why you use shield
I literally beat ||phase 2 with only getting hit once||
Just shield the entire time
lol
But like
the damage
took so long
hollow lark
Yea you just charge ur charge towards stuff and afk til the dmg is over
hollow lark
Da fuq
hollow lark
There used to be a bug where deflecting redacted would do like half the total health bar
Was so funny
fallen violet
Speaking of half total health
I charmed Asterius once
He deleted 1/5 of Theseus' HP
Was fun
calm bone
like 35 hrs in and still haven't been able to use one of the big juice bottles
they say you need to keep giving champs juice, but like damn dogg ive given several characters like half a dozen already
hollow lark
Yea just keep giving juice
You’ll lose a lot of big juice once you get the opportunity to use it lol
hollow lark
Yea you’d be surprised how quickly that goes away lmao
calm bone
rip, guess I wont be looking forward to that
hollow lark
But it’s well worth it
calm bone
nice
scarlet ice
coronacht + demeter special + arctic blast = A+
even better if you have another faster boon to deal an extra layer of chill so you don't always have to special twice in a row just to get 10 chills
hollow lark
or just get op +4 special shots hammer
scarlet ice
there you go
scarlet ice
i also just finished my first rail run by getting the hazard bomb upgrade and buffing special damage to hell and back
brisk trail
Or no?
scarlet ice
uhhh maybe?
i'm not sure
nothing about my knowledge of unlocking hidden aspects tells me that completing a run is a requirement
hollow lark
yea i dont think its a requirement
void vigil
@brisk trail ||final boss is a spoiler in this channel, please spoiler tag your message accordingly||
brisk trail
Thing is the spear one aint poppin up
scarlet ice
oh this is the general discussion channel, i meant to post the coronacht thing in #h1-builds-and-combat
whoops
fallen violet
I went stupid mode with it
hollow lark
its a shame it doesnt work with the aspects i use
scarlet ice
the wiki says hazard bomb isn't compatible with triple bomb
somber tiger
wazup. Can someone tell me which fish is very rare? (for Poseidon quest)
fallen violet
Ima level with you
some of the like
4th floor rooms
Are so small that hazard doesnt work
well
hollow lark
yea lol
scarlet ice
it's fine if you dash at the right time or just have a lot of health
hollow igloo
Do we have any information on--when cross-saves are available (IIRC October?) how they'll work? That is, if I have my main file on my PC, and I start a Hell file on Switch, will be able to merge them, or will one whole account stomp the other?
scarlet ice
are we going to have to like. make some kind of "hades account"
or sign into steam from the switch
that'd be weird
high seal
Is Ares the only portrait that has animated blinks?
its kinda weird that he's the only one
scarlet ice
he isn't i'm pretty sure
near comet
so we can toy around with different combos more
why not make it contractor upgrades to add test versions of boons and such for skelly
fallen violet
No
foggy bough
where should I direct a Keepsakes question btw?
fallen violet
I like the idea, but thats not rogue principle
hollow lark
witch's circle needs a buff
near comet
fair enough @fallen violet
fallen violet
Rogue is about trial and error
hollow lark
theyre too easy imo
near comet
yeah
scarlet ice
hiss is right
near comet
deflect attack makes that fight a joke @hollow lark
hollow lark
deflect dash makes it literally impossible to take dmg
hollow lark
and without deflect its still brain dead easy
near comet
@hollow lark trust me attack is even worse
foggy bough
I just want to know how to get it fully leveled via gifting onto someone, since at some point it ends up not giving the prompt to give more @scarlet ice
scarlet ice
deflect attack on spear's hidden aspect is pretty good
fallen violet
I just want to know how to get it fully leveled via gifting onto someone, since at some point it ends up not giving the prompt to give more @scarlet ice
@foggy bough What does this mean
scarlet ice
that's beyond where i am, idk what that means
fallen violet
Keepsakes level from using them