(and thank you)
#h1-discussion
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patent epoch
I'll go to a different channel then
glacial plover
@zeta first time I got there I got pissed due to the circumstances lol
glacial plover
All faxx no printer lol
solar abyss
Yo, I don't understand the mirror. You can switch back and forth between two options in each category... are you choosing which one you want, or do you get both?
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only the one that's shown
native sorrel
u choose one
glacial plover
^^
maiden mulch
usually purple is more generally useful and green is more of a situational build enabler
pulsar bridge
Is there a reason for me not getting the achievement for all of the Keepsakes? I got the newest one.
maiden mulch
there's a ||25th||
waxen marsh
Any plans to sell Hades Switch on Amazon? I'd like to buy it for a friend
I could do eshop credit but this would save us a step
carmine ravine
yes u need ||hades|| keepsake
pulsar bridge
yes u need ||hades|| keepsake
@carmine ravine Yeah, expected this lol
rigid cedar
I just joined this channel to loudly appreciate with you, pals, how masterfully done this game is. From narrative and story to the variability of builds and fast-paced addicting experience, Hades is a pinnacle of indie gamedev for me (couldn't play Senua properly back then). I want more of those clever and stylish games with soul and story to them!
agile ingot
Spoilery question - ||How do I unlock the other aspects of weapons? For example, I read that for the spear you have to spend 5 titan blood on it, which i've done, and then talk to Achilles. I've talked to him a few times since spending 5 blood on it but I have not had anything trigger to unlock the 4th aspect yet. ||
If it's easier for spoiler reasons I'm open to someone DMing me the answer rather than posting here
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@agile ingot check the pins in #h1-story-discussion .
|| that's not the correct pre-req for the spear, it has something different ||
agile ingot
Great, the article I pulled up on google had the info wrong. Thanks!
raven silo
||The spear's requirement is to have five aspects unlocked in any weapons, then any other weapon after the spear is available is 5 blood invested, I think||
queen frigate
Any thought on Olympian favor vs dark foresight?
half rampart
is it possible to hit a monster with doom and have the doom kill them and not have to do anything
coral verge
yes
solar abyss
Hm I keep choking the final boss
willow swallow
Coming back to the game after like 4-6 months on 11 heat and no recollection of what boons really mix now and new enemies ive never seen before is a little rough 😂 😂 😂
solar abyss
Do you miss anything by not playing on hell mode?
supple field
nope
willow swallow
tf is hell mode?
coral verge
you don't get an option if you play non-hell mode
cloud tusk
@willow swallow - starts you off at 5 heat, scales to 25 for boons. Can't turn on God Mode.
Just starts harder and gets harder for the rewards, more or less.
solar abyss
In non-hell modes, the first two areas are cakewalks even as a newbie
but I don't want to see the third and final boss on hell mode
cloud tusk
Eh...depneds on who you are. Not everyone jives with this game style.
ebon thistle
I feel mighty dumb right now. I thought "close at heart" prophecy required me to actually beat at least one chamber with a trinket. And when i used all but the last 2 turns out i could just equip them near the Skelly and it counts.
solar abyss
I still don't understand how the god trinkets work
fading gazelle
They guarantee that the selected god will be given as a option in the run and increases their given boons rarity 
@solar abyss
solar abyss
But sometimes I'll get through an area and the god trinket won't be used up
green pagoda
For instance, does fulfilling the Musician and Muse prophecy achievement require me to just give eurydice nectar until I form a bond or no?
fading gazelle
You simply need to re unite them
green pagoda
Im trying to 100% the achievements. But not entirely sure how to unlock all of the prophecy fulfillment achievements
fading gazelle
@solar abyss Once again, It gives you the option, and the charge will not be used until you accept said god's boon
solar abyss
Once again, once again
raven silo
the exploding carts in area 3 sound like cats meowing when they see you so now I'm picturing theseus & asterius with a pet cart and it just snuggles up to them
fading gazelle
@green pagoda If you'd like to know how to fulfill Musician and Muse ||Gift both Orphy and Eurydice till they've maxed their affinities till their locked hearts. Do the same for Nyx as well. After that just simply progress their dialogue and soon Nyx will reveal the location of orpheus pact so that you may break it. That should fulfil the prophecy||
solar abyss
I feel like keys are OP compared to gems and darkness
sharp maple
I have duplicate boons from chaos, Addled strike (one common and one rare). Is this normal? (to have same boons with different rarities)
distant lotus
Keys let you unlock some very important stuff, but they are the first resource that will become arbitrary
willow swallow
Man, was really hoping they would make it so that looking at boons would stop the timer xP
distant lotus
I had something like that for my special, was amazing seeing health tick down
opaque nexus
are chaos fish not a thing anymore
distant lotus
They did that for codex right?
willow swallow
Yea
opaque nexus
I got an achievement for catching a fish in every region and never caught a chaos fish
coral verge
Chaos fish exists
raven silo
presumably a fish in every region means only one fish from each pool
supple field
chaos fish doesnt count for that achievement
coral verge
there's 3
coral verge
normal, rare, legendary
crude hazel
Three in each area that has fish.
tall seal
something bothering me
can someone tell me why the knucle special doesnt always do a third hit?
crude hazel
Are you using an aspect?
crude hazel
It has two hits by default, shouldn't have a third IIRC.
With the magnetic one, it's probably a distance thing.
ebon sleet
i noticed with magnet sometimes it doesnt do the pull part
you have to aim it though
if you aim it dead on it will do the pull
tall seal
it pulls
does an upppercut
and a shadow does damage to a near enemy
but it wont do everytime
ebon sleet
oh you probably dont realize theres a dash-special too
tall seal
it doesnt look like a crit
ebon sleet
maybe sometimes youre dashing before you special and sometimes youre not
2 different attacks
tall seal
i dont think thats the case ill try to record
ebon sleet
with magent fists dash special looks a lot like normal special i noticed that yesterday
yea lets see
coarse sierra
I think I need to take a break from hades. I began a run and realized that my finger aren't responding that fast and precise. I think 6 hours of hades for the past few days might be enough for them :P
tall seal
@ebon sleet around 9s https://streamable.com/wob969
fading gazelle
6 hours is pretty small but hey rest matters as well!
tall seal
a noticeable shadow seeks something near
coarse sierra
50 runs since game came out
grim turret
I really like the anvil in styx
when it gives you exactly what you want it's the best feeling
tall seal
someone knows whats going on? lol
ebon sleet
it looked like your first hit went to the left and the other 2 went right
tall seal
i am only pressing special
fading gazelle
What seems to be the problem?
supple field
i got the anvil once the first time i got to styx and it killed my build so ive never gotten it since
ebon sleet
yeah 3 hits, the difference with that one at 9s is that 1 of the hits hit the mob on the left and the other 2 hit the mob on the right
tall seal
how do i proc that shadow every time?
ebon sleet
does that make sense
tall seal
special 90% the time
hits only two times
magnetic and uppercut
the third i dont know where it come sfrom
coarse sierra
Guys do you have any phone wallpapers for Hades?
fading gazelle
I recall Tatz made a very neat looking wallpaper for Ares and few other gods but the resolution was a bit off
daring niche
hades merch lookin noice
misty dune
I understand making new enemies is a big undertaking, but I'd really like to be able to fight a cyclops, chimera, and a centaur
crude hazel
I wouldn't hold my breath 😄
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@tall seal are you referring to the purple particles in front of you when you press special?
rose veldt
I'm absolutely in love with Hades! Another great game from Supergiant! Thanks!
inner kettle
Art sure does make life a bunch more pleasant.
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@tall seal that "shadow" is from the Aspect of Talos pulling the enemy towards you. It only appears if you're aiming mostly towards the enemy, and only if you're close enough to that enemy
There is a maximum range on it, which is not clearly communicated to you
potent carbon
how do I build hestia
every time I try I end up with op rockets
and be like hestia whats that
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queen frigate
Will altering a boon chamber roll into a different boon?
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not always
queen frigate
Or can it?
queen frigate
Thank you
rough token
it's pretty old, but I don't think anything has seriously changed
queen frigate
Looks the same from my limited experience lol
brisk trail
ermes power are aswome
tall seal
@rough token no, the third hit
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the uppercut hits twice by default? @tall seal
ebon sleet
brisk trail
That chart is still fully accurate.
rough token
I'm not seeing 3 hits, sorry
brisk trail
Standing Malphon Special hits twice.
Using Talos if you're close enough you should be seeing three total hits, the pull and then the two hits from Special.
You're missing the initial hit from the Special because you're pulling something from far enough away.
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and you're also pushing them away, which means you usually won't get the second hit if you do get the first
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ye
fervent crystal
I got it on PC, but I like playing stuff on portable a tad more
queen frigate
The switch port is great
tall seal
im deliberatelly spaming the skill
brisk trail
You got footage?
brisk trail
and you're also pushing them away, which means you usually won't get the second hit if you do get the first
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brisk trail
Tempest Flourish is pushing them out of range.
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the "shadow" you're seeing is the particles from tempest flourish, I think
tall seal
why it doesnt proc all the time
rough token
it's definitely hitting
I watched the damage numbers over their heads
when you see 160, it hit both times
rough token
Tempest Flourish isn't great on the Twin Fists for that very reason
it's hard to get the full value of your special
coarse wolf
is the thorn of thanatos achievement given at the end of the run or when you get the 30% mid run
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just keep going--if it doesn't clear when you finish (however the run ends) I'd 
coarse wolf
hmm
i just decided to try f10 and now my game black screened
rip the run
guess i'll do it all again
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@coarse wolf alt-tab
nova cairn
Hey 😄 I just joined while playing some Hades (bought it for Switch a few days ago and love it!)
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Welcome!
queen frigate
Does affinity affect boons in any way?
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nope
queen frigate
Cool
brisk trail
since the god mode was made available, i was wondering if disabling it then re-enabling it would have you start over back at 20% damage resistance?
rough token
I don't think it resets
brisk trail
thank you
rough token
sure thing ^.^
brisk trail
i was worried about losing it
steel flicker
Does affinity affect boons in any way?
I find it strange that it doesn't.
would be logical
queen frigate
5% rarity at max nectar would be cool
cyan python
affinity as in relationship?
steel flicker
yes
steel flicker
not romantic I mean, just the hearts
cyan python
or barely noticeable
steel flicker
depends on how it would be implemented
fringe garnet
@lavish tree re: the sticky fourth aspect dash bonus, I'd recommend holding the dash button down instead of pressing it repeatedly. Feels much less "sticky" that way IMO
cyan python
^
lavish tree
@fringe garnet will try, thanks!
fringe garnet
sure! let me know if you like it or not!
real elm
Hermes still has a locked heart any tips how to unlock ||did the epilog allready only hermes is left||
vale kite
you need to ||talk to him with his keepsake equipped||
fading gazelle
||Max Plume|| @real elm
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multiple casts at the same time
fading gazelle
Hmmmmm
steel flicker
Your bow shots get strong
fading gazelle
Good question
steel flicker
one hit and someone dead
fading gazelle
Does it seem like fun to you Goosejack?
rough token
but you can do multiple at the same time, more burst damage
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works for groups as well, if you have an AoE cast
steel flicker
I was sleeping on chiron aspect for 170 hours until I picked it up today
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hahaha
solar abyss
chiron seems great against bosses
Which is most important thing by far
Also... you can't get your titan blood back?
high island
Well, it was a lot worse before 1.0.
sweet python
all the bow aspects save zag are excellent
high island
So sleeping on it for those 170 hours was probably a good idea lol.
sweet python
what'd they change about it in 1.0?
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@solar abyss you can kinda get it back
if you do a run and don't like it
you can give up, and it'll revert to before the run
solar abyss
Ugh. So basically you have to invest your blood into one weapon and stick with it indefinitely
That's kind of lame
rough token
you'll get a lot of blood in the end
queen frigate
You need 302 blood total I think?
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¯_(ツ)_/¯
high island
Heart-Seeking Bow: increased Attack and Special damage; reduced Attack and Special recovery time
- Perfect Shot (Bow): increased damage
- Charged Volley (Bow): increased damage
steel flicker
entirely too much tbh
queen frigate
Nah
rough token
nah, I think it allows for a lot of long-term progression
solar abyss
I wish you got less but you got free blood refund each time, so you could spend on each weapon freely
and experiment
steel flicker
I'm not fond of the kind of long-term progression this game provides in general, aside from the pact.
queen frigate
It’s like a monster hunter game merged with path of exile. Perfection.
solar abyss
What I don't like is that it seems like to get special ingredients you have to farm gold the whole run and buy from charon for 1200
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or || beat the final boss || ¯_(ツ)_/¯
fallow laurel
haloo
solar abyss
Yeah, for 10 nectar.. which I only see like 0.75 nectar a run on average
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Hi RudiKho!
fading gazelle
Hiya!
queen frigate
The special offer can have blood for 15 keys pretty frequently @solar abyss
solar abyss
Where the heck you getting all these keys
queen frigate
You’ll be drowning in keys before you know it
solar abyss
I get maybe 3 a run
queen frigate
I get tons of keys from fishing
fallow laurel
haloo..I am a new player on the Nintendo Switch Hades, are there any tips and tricks for playing this game? why when I play a little difficult: D
solar abyss
It's annoying you can't resent titan's blood like you can with darkness
Spam dash more
queen frigate
You can get blood from fishing too
fallow laurel
@solar abyss icic
high island
@fallow laurel I'd recommend just reading through #h1-for-new-players and asking questions there if you have any.
fallow laurel
@high island ohh hehehe sory
solar abyss
Never go into gem rooms. You get hardly any gems
fallow laurel
oke2 thanks bro 😄
maiden mulch
if you could respec titan blood, there would be no reason to get more than you need to max one aspect
solar abyss
Yeah, they could make it more expensive
queen frigate
That... would be horrible
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but then that makes it harder at first to get any aspects at all
indigo belfry
Hey ho, quick question, maybe some of you know - Is there any chance any official chords/tabs for Good Riddance will be released? This song is a masterpiece and I wanna try to learn playing it (but i'm still a beginner so it's hard to learn from just listening to it).
solar abyss
permanent upgrade goes against the experimentation vibe everything else has. Encouraged to use different weapons, swap out your keepsakes at no cost, respec your darkness easily at no cost, etc.
fallow laurel
@indigo belfry me to lol
queen frigate
It’s really not hard to get more blood though. There are so many ways to do it.
solar abyss
Well until I do, I guess I'm only using the spear, because that's where I put my blood
queen frigate
You don’t need blood invested to win.
solar abyss
....I don't even like the spear, lol
queen frigate
Every weapon is fully capable of beating any run with the base aspect unleveled.
solar abyss
Sure, it's also possible to beat the game with 1hp
fading gazelle
Uhhh
queen frigate
I’m just saying, saying that you’re only using a weapon you dislike because that’s where you blood is... that’s silly.
fading gazelle
I guess?
solar abyss
Don't hate on minmaxers
daring niche
its also possible to beat the game with both hands tide behind ur back
solar abyss
It seemed like the spear had the best upgrades
fading gazelle
Define "minmaxers"
daring niche
yeah
fading gazelle
First time hearing the term 
solar abyss
Someone who invests into spear because spear seems optimal even though they dislike spear
queen frigate
Playing with efficiency in mind. Build synergy and so on.
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someone who maximizes their primary thing and ignores the rest
fading gazelle
Ahh
daring niche
huh
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like in an RPG, maxing your strength and dexterity, but dumping your intelligence
fading gazelle
yeah I got it
narrow hemlock
thats definitely not the majority of hades players though, only th eminority
rough token
I don't think it really applies here
queen frigate
I wouldn’t say ignores, but a lower priority.
fading gazelle
Maxing a few
daring niche
i mean
fading gazelle
The name makes sense
solar abyss
Casual: Cool pointy stick. Awesome attack animation, very fluid!
Minmaxer: +80% damage for 3 blood
daring niche
you should focus on maxing an aspact u like and then move to maxing a diffrent one
fading gazelle
Are you talking about Zag aspect Varatha?
queen frigate
Putting blood into spear is a good idea anyway for a different reason.
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you should focus on maxing an aspact u like and then move to maxing a diffrent one
@daring niche I disagree
I think you should try out whatever you think looks cool
and roll with it
short knot
Hello guys! There's a 30mB update rn. Anyone know what it's about?
queen frigate
Actually never mind. Doesn’t apply there
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@short knot probably hotfixes
short knot
Oh cool thanks man
solar abyss
Swan, for example, is not a minmaxer
steel flicker
Oh no. I always though minmaxers are people who just stay in the middle. Like they do the most standard build where everything is evenly distributed.
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nope
steel flicker
Who are those then
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balanced players
solar abyss
See, I LIKE getting to play all the weapons. But the blood system prizes me into playing, or at least focusing, on one weapon
rough token
I dunno that there's a term for them
queen frigate
You can play every aspect and be a minmaxer.
rough token
anyway gotta go
queen frigate
The minmaxer will always play the dark thirst weapon.
steel flicker
So I'm a minmaxer then
maiden mulch
blood incentivizes playing everything though because of bounties
solar abyss
?? Not if they're trying to minmax their chance to win that specific run
maiden mulch
playing one weapon means you only get bounties on one weapon
solar abyss
Bounties?
maiden mulch
which means you get 1/6 of the blood you could otherwise get
queen frigate
What heat are you playing on @solar abyss ?
maiden mulch
if you're on heat 0, you really shouldn't care about aspect leveling
solar abyss
See, wtf, I asked people if I was missing out by not playing hell mode
steel flicker
It's not hell mode
queen frigate
Beat the final boss.
solar abyss
Oh
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which is why
queen frigate
Then come back
rough token
it's generally considered a spoiler
queen frigate
You’ll see how blood works
solar abyss
So I'm only forced to use one weapon until I beat the final boss
rough token
no
queen frigate
You aren’t forced to use any weapon
rough token
you can use whatever you like
steel flicker
rough token
I gotta go, sorry, team meeting starting
solar abyss
I feel like you guys are missing the point
maiden mulch
you're massively overestimating how much power 6 blood gives you
queen frigate
I agree
solar abyss
Eh, prob
maiden mulch
you end up getting and using hundreds of blood, the 6 you get before the final boss amounts to a rounding error
queen frigate
This game is 95% knowing the fight.
solar abyss
I mean, 3 blood alone gives +80% damage on spear
narrow hemlock
im not getting the use of minmaxing in this convo bc ive associated it with/seen it used mostly in the context of people like. actively doing the math for a game to get the most optimal stats for a thing, like the above and beyond approach 
the way its used here doesnt really seem that beyond 'more power'
solar abyss
We've got a lingual minmaxer over here
narrow hemlock
thats just how i mostly see people use it lmao
queen frigate
Minmaxing has levels. It can be as simple as always taking boons that increase your special damage or something. Investing into what gives the biggest benefit. For efficiency.
fading gazelle
Yeah I agree with Tatz here
pallid plover
Could someone explain if some of the rank roles here are special and that I might want to get one for any specific reasons? Is there anything about the roles aside from what they explicitly say they are?
steel flicker
Anyway chill with the spear and blood. "Our" general point was that it doesn't matter until you finish a run for the first time.
solar abyss
Okay, but my point that the system, at least mildly, contradicts the general theme of per-run experimentation still stands as well
queen frigate
The first win is the tutorial.
steel flicker
Yes it does
solar abyss
I thought you left the underworld forever after you win, and then the game becomes stardew valley
steel flicker
That would be a weird game
queen frigate
I would love it if two of my favorite games collaborated like that.
fading gazelle
LMAO I'd love that
solar abyss
Oh, 30 MB update. They were probably listening to this convo and implemented my suggested changes
fading gazelle
Would be nice if we could get patch-notes for the small hotfixes 😔
But it's a lot of work so i understand
vale kite
it's probably nothing significant
queen frigate
The broker realized how good we had it and raised the price of blood to 40 keys
fading gazelle
Oh god noooooo
sonic cape
What's new in today's update?
sonic cape
KK
harsh onyx
Is the steam achievement for buying 9 well items in a single run bugged?
queen frigate
Only $2.99 for a special bounty offer. 200 darkness, 50 gems, and 1 Titan blood!
harsh onyx
@fading gazelle I'll try that. I've been hitting the wells pretty hard, no luck yet. Thanks.
fading gazelle
No problem 
solar abyss
Can you marry dusa?
thick ledge
lmfao
solar abyss
...asking for friend
thick ledge
i honestly dont know fwiw
i just unlocked Dusa and Thanatos' ||cthonic companion||
i got them on the same run though so i dont even know what i prefer lmao
hallow remnant
Do different sources of doom stack? I have 1 boon that gives doom on attack and 1 that gives doom on special
solar abyss
Am tempted to look at black box... but I won't
maiden mulch
40 keys for 1 blood would actually still be a really good deal considering the exchange rate with the normal trades is 100 keys
gentle scarab
is there a way to "enable" alt f4
wind nest
Doom does not stack although their is an area boon that changes it to stack
solar abyss
which sucks
wind nest
Uh it’s fine?
It needs the right weapon
If you get it on a high fire rate attack it crushes bosses nicely
solar abyss
doom by itself is one of the best solo boons
gusty slate
hit and run tactics
north pier
just fought ||the spawner hydra with a lifesteal blade and made literally 450 dollars off of the enemies it spawns||
i felt weird going any further, but apparently there's no limit to the amount you can farm
leaving asphodel with 550 gp
maiden mulch
at least there's no gold=score system
velvet plaza
Uh, new update?
fading gazelle
Hotfixes most likely
atomic granite
hi does anyone know if vanquishers keep only gives gemstones after bosses or do you get both gemstones and darkness
fading gazelle
Both
atomic granite
@fading gazelle both gems and darkness? ok thanks
fading gazelle
No prob
final lagoon
aww
fading gazelle
yet
strange nymph
Uhm, hello, I'm sorry if this is a dumb question, but does anyone know if there are some kind of character sheets or reference sheets available??
Other than the actual art in the game
I have a pretty bad sight so I have no idea of what I'm looking at when I see the models in the game 💦💦
queen frigate
You could try contacting the artists on Twitter or something. I’m not sure if they are available.
candid spindle
anyone know if is going to have new gods add for the game?
zinc shore
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
strange nymph
I'm not sure where I can find them either, but I'm gonna look it up to see if I have any luck with that, thank you @queen frigate 
zinc shore
supergiantgames hasn't indicated DLC of any kind and said they were just taking a break
kind moss
bugfix probably
queen frigate
What exploit?
fading gazelle
No exploit, Chaos shield was just really strong
sterile light
hm.
grave lynx
Hey peoples! I dunno where to ask about this, but I’m wildly curious.
Hera as a goddess has a very noticeable absence in the game save for her Aspect on Coronacht. Does anyone know if there’s any plan to add her in as a Boon-giver?
fading gazelle
No plans to add Hera as a character at all
The current Olympians are all you're gonna get
SGG says that they added gods that seemed relative to the narrative that they wanted to tell
grave lynx
Interesting, if a little disappointing. I’d be curious to know what she’d offer if she did
velvet plaza
would be cool to see some titans in the future
grave lynx
Ahh I see, okay!
karmic terrace
Is there plans for DLC?
grave lynx
Oh Titans would be nuts 😱
velvet plaza
as said above, no plans for dlc yet
karmic terrace
oop didnt see that lol thanks
fading gazelle
People should really read the FAQ =/
grave lynx
A very well deserved break, definitely.
karmic terrace
for sure
final lagoon
Beat ||Charon||, only cost me all 3 DDs
grave lynx
Same bud..
final lagoon
Is the ||membership card|| permanent or one run only?
gusty slate
That run
final lagoon
aw
velvet plaza
just one run
grave lynx
Oof
final lagoon
noooot worth the 3 DDs but at least I got an achievement
grave lynx
Not much of a ||membership card||, then, is it :p
gusty slate
Werth the DDs
velvet plaza
it's worth the dds if you buy them back
queen frigate
Could get Pat in elysium.
grave lynx
I’m more likely to run into Asterius and get my face axed in :x
raven silo
Zagreus just called the Bone hydra Lernie, I will now be calling the bone hydra Lernie from now on
grave lynx
Aww
raven silo
WAIT IT'S ON THE TOP BAR TOO
grave lynx
wot
velvet plaza
Anyone else always buy the Yarn when it's offered?
grave lynx
I don’t think I’ve ever taken the yarn.. what’s it do again?
raven silo
next item is higher rarity
grave lynx
Oh right.. maybe I should take it..
velvet plaza
dude. it gives me too many duos and legendaries not to take it
pallid plover
I have a question about the 1.0 for whether a bug has been fixed that I didn't have a change to test yet
There's this thing when you have Stygian Soul and also get bonus Cast ammo during your run that's just a UI glitch. If you shoot twice, then wait for your first cooldown to end and then shoot again, your second cooldown timer will be positioned weirdly, overlapping some text. That was the case before 1.0, anyway, and I didn't want to put it in #hades-feedback if it's already been remedied.
grave lynx
:O
pallid plover
I just had to test what Stygian Soul does in combination with extra cast ammo
It's as great as you'd expect, except for that glitch.
You get one cooldown for each ammo unit
Multi timers.
But the UI wasn't able to handle it properly (when done in the way I described)
gusty slate
If the bug is still around, f10 it or put in #h1-tech-support if on switch
pallid plover
Yeah I know, that's why I'm asking here to confirm whether it's around
I'll keep playing the game and using SS so I'll likely find out
distant totem
is /r/hadesthegame the main subreddit? it's so small for a game that's sold so many copies
alpine tulip
aaaaaa
I just got my first chaos fishing spot and panicked
reeled in too soon and I lost it
god knows when I'll get another
raven silo
fishing, but in the realm of chaos
grave lynx
Interesting..
raven silo
there's some notoriously annoying fish in there, due to the area's moderate rarity
fading gazelle
@distant totem The community is more active over here than the subreddit, but yes that's the official unofficial subreddit for Hades
fringe garnet
@fading gazelle typo, meant 3
distant totem
gotcha, thanks
fading gazelle
Oh thank god
pallid plover
@fading gazelle you seem very active and knowledgeable, do you know about the glitch I mentioned?
alpine tulip
btw, is there anywhere I should report a tech fix
I was having fps issues and I found a resolution that wasn't already in #h1-tech-fixes
fringe garnet
Right, same. We'll find out together!
gusty slate
#h1-tech-support if on switch, f10 if PC
fading gazelle
LMAO PLS NO
pallid plover
**There's a spoiler in #hades-feedback **
fading gazelle
@pallid plover Aww thanks for the compliment. I think I understand your glitch, but I don't think I've experienced it myself?
pallid plover
will do
fading gazelle
Thanks!
sweet heart
nys
fringe garnet
Gods Legacy (epic) or Pride (duo/legendary)?
My brain says Legacy
My heart says Pride
(for the mirror)
fading gazelle
Legacy is much better
Since building towards duos and legendries is still really consistent even without Pride
Epic boons will carry you through every run
pallid plover
Hmmm, where is image posting allowed on the server? Since I'm trying to post the screenshot of the glitch
It's blocked by a server rule here
raven silo
it's role locked, presumably
gusty slate
Need to upload it somewhere and link I think
fading gazelle
You can post it in #h1-tech-support if you'd like, but you can post images through third party softwares like gyazo or imgur
raven silo
or post it in an empty discord server and copy the link
pallid plover
ah okay, if it's allowed since this is for discussion about potential glitch, then I'll post in tech support
zinc nacelle
is it just me or are these survival rooms bad designed
you can just walk in circles and survive
gusty slate
Seems fine to me 
gusty slate
You say that now 
gusty slate
They can get harder
solar abyss
Honestly non-boss rooms should be harder in general imo
zinc nacelle
idk
gusty slate
That can be arranged
zinc nacelle
i havent come past act 3 yet
queen frigate
Pact of Punishment has entered the chat
calm bone
is the fight any different if you borrow the money in a different location?
zinc nacelle
and act 3 rooms destroy me sometimes
solar abyss
Third and final bosses are 10x harder than any non-boss room
calm bone
this is the first time ive seen the money in the lava place
gusty slate
RNG is best
zinc nacelle
pls delete
supple field
the fight is always the same if you borrow money @calm bone
tulip ocean
Does giving ambrosia unlock anything? So far only given one to Charon
calm bone
ight
gusty slate
Ambrosia can do some interesting things
raven silo
the 45 second rooms still have gold drops, so for me they're less survive, and more kill as many enemies as possible
every god has several boons
zinc nacelle
ah nvm
raven silo
but there are four main boon types, and the rest are secondary
zinc nacelle
ye it feels like its the same rn lol
raven silo
you can't have multiple main boons of the same type
solar abyss
This game takes its sweet time telling you what stuff is for
raven silo
Those being Strike (weapon), Floruish (special) Cast, Call, and dash
fading gazelle
@raven silo *5
raven silo
oh yeah dash too
gusty slate
dash eh?
raven silo
forgot about dash
fading gazelle
Yup
gusty slate
I guess the game isn't transparent about what stuff is used for lol
fading gazelle
Woah there
gusty slate
Well, it does, but not the most efficient ways
zinc nacelle
what
raven silo
a lot of side boons for gods are locked behind having a main boon
zinc nacelle
goddamn
raven silo
but there are a few that don't require one
fading gazelle
Those are known as Tier 2 boons
fading gazelle
I mean Supergiant games are still played by younger audiences
solar abyss
A 14 year old nowadays probably beats the final boss on their fifth run
fading gazelle
Its a bit harsh 😅
zinc nacelle
yes
gusty slate
The run count varies a lot
fading gazelle
You could always use alternatives!
I like to use "shades" or "blood and darkness"
fading gazelle
We have a mod server
raven silo
there are no tier 2 boons for the main 5 types, but there are tier 1 boons that arren't main. I was refering to the group of boons that arren't attack/special/ect, not by tier
zinc nacelle
hm okay
raven silo
unless I'm misunderstanding what tiers mean
fading gazelle
Does the swear filter annoy you?
raven silo
i don't know a lot of the special terms for hades
raven silo
it's alright
astral shoal
Hey all, I am having a difficult time viewing the new achievements addition. Shift F3 gets me that pop up window, but there are two tabs (friends and achievements) and the achievements one is greyed out and wont let me click it. Does anyone happen to know whats going on?
zinc nacelle
Does the swear filter annoy you?
@fading gazelle yes
fading gazelle
That's a shame
velvet plaza
i shoulda screenshotted that run wow
raven silo
I don't know why, but theseus turning into a sandwitch bc of the well item is incredibly funny to me
terse geyser
I LOVE TURNING HIM INTO A SANDWICH
supple field
which item is that
gusty slate
Yarn?
fading gazelle
Ah
raven silo
Or it could just blow up mid-air, doing no damage. Highly explosive shells don't exactly seem like they'd bounce
Sounds like you want the rocket launcher upgrade, that one explodes on impact
gusty slate
bouncing nades when
raven silo
technically the thing could be on a timer that's just always calculated to go off when it hits the ground
gusty slate
But they bounce off of pillars sometimes!
raven silo
godmagic™️
raven silo
grenades with fuses can bounce, it's just impact grenades that would have a hard time doing that
velvet plaza
posiedon really be out here pretending that letting me catch more fish is an amazing gift
raven silo
the answer to why gun is that supergiant wanted to have a gun in the game so they made a gun
Seb you can sell it later for 450 obols
that's the secret true value to it
gusty slate
But fish is good
raven silo
yes
velvet plaza
yeah i know, but as my starting boon?
raven silo
just win without a starting boon, easy
gusty slate
He was impressed with your fishing rod
velvet plaza
I liked Poseidon before, but I've changed my mind, Aries is better
terse geyser
posiedon really be out here pretending that letting me catch more fish is an amazing gift
@velvet plaza it is an amazing gift
and yes. it is better than a core boon
solar abyss
This artemis best girl thing offends me
gusty slate
is final boss
raven silo
correct best girl is 
terse geyser
@gusty slate Poseidon was impressed with his rod.
never compromise
never surrender
raven silo
insert very suggestive rock-based pun here
terse geyser
don't insert puns
fading gazelle
Aw shades Aggy is awake
gusty slate
The Rock is proud of
raven silo
I only held off bc there's a profanity filter and therefore suggestive comments should be held back, not because of puns
granite ether
Always give nectar to bouldy, as they believe in you and you should believe in the bouldy
terse geyser
just don't validate people misinterpreting your messages either
raven silo
I will roll with the puns all I like, they rock
gusty slate
Although.... supporter shade believes in me more than
terse geyser
I don't believe in bouldy any more
he has stopped giving me ambiguity bonuses
raven silo
you see, that was three puns at once. the first being that bouldy rolls down the hill every time sisyphus hits the top, the second being that bouldy is, well, a rock. and the third being that rock and roll is a musical genre (the third one was mostly unintentional but I noticed it before posting and went with it)
solar abyss
Am I a dumbas if I keep giving the same person nectar expecting something good back
terse geyser
no
gusty slate
Nah that's a valid play
raven silo
some characters do give a special item at max affection
fading gazelle
hey man you give them nectar cause you care
terse geyser
they will give you love and companionship
fading gazelle
Yes
raven silo
that too
terse geyser
a fair trade
fading gazelle
for a bottle of sweet stuff
gusty slate
They will divulge all their secrets
raven silo
I maxed charon before anyone else, I love me some capitalism
gusty slate
hnnnnrnnn
fading gazelle
Graaaahhhhhhhh
solar abyss
The special somebody I give to keeps flying to the rafters though. I won't name names
fading gazelle
terse geyser
gusty slate
is ||final boss||, beware
terse geyser
careful
fading gazelle
Yo dude
raven silo
for some reason whenever I see the emote I default to Dusa pog
fading gazelle
Spoilers
terse geyser
final boss is considered a spoiler here
raven silo
Dusa is pogging guys
fading gazelle
Duwusa
velvet plaza
Bouldy best girl tho
fading gazelle
Shush
queen frigate
Bouldy also best boy.
fading gazelle
Yesh
raven silo
Bouldy can be whatever you need because bouldy always listens and understands
gusty slate
Except when Bouldy gives 2% -
queen frigate
And Bouldy believes in you
gusty slate
Emotional Crit
supple field
i somehow still havent gotten asphodels legendary fish
raven silo
rng happens
fading gazelle
flaaaaaaaaameeeeaterrrrrrr
solar abyss
Isn't bouldy the sisyphus squeeze
fading gazelle
That voice line of zag singing is amazing
gusty slate
"Here ends tha Tale of Zagreus, heart broken, when a rock named Bouldy did not believe in him."
raven silo
yes bouldy is sisyphus' best buddy
fading gazelle
Thank you Darren
raven silo
it's the only reason you can't romance bouldy, they're trying to set you up with sisyphus instead
perfect wingman
supple field
wait zag sings where
velvet plaza
little known fact because i made it up, Bouldy is actually Zag's love interest
gusty slate
has been pulling the strings the entire time
solar abyss
Bouldy used to be a fat man until he made mad
gusty slate
The last piece of lore I required
raven silo
Bouldy knows the three fates personally
gusty slate
With his rockin' personality you bet
velvet plaza
Bouldy is actually Hades' boss
raven silo
the only reason ||Zag survived as a kid|| was because bouldy asked them nicely
queen frigate
Bouldy is the father of the gorgon bloodline.
sudden pike
raven silo
correction: gorgons are bouldy cultists, trying to spread his influence
queen frigate
Their power comes from Bouldy’s favor
velvet plaza
Bouldy is creation, before there were gods, there were titans, and before there were titans, there was bouldy
raven silo
Seb you're not wrong in a way
queen frigate
Bouldy is unknowingly the true base of Olympus.
raven silo
Gaia (the earth) is the mother of the titans, you know what a rock is?
gusty slate
Aspect of when
velvet plaza
bouldy is the mother of gaia tho
gusty slate
So Atlas and are acquainted?
past pulsar
Does anyone know what determines the white exclamation mark rooms? Or is it just RnG
supple field
bouldy can rek atlas
velvet plaza
Bouldy determines all
past pulsar
Ahh cheers :P
gusty slate
Rock Number Generator
velvet plaza
RBouldy NBouldy GBouldy
solar abyss
Skelly is actually my fave char
gusty slate
Boyo
solar abyss
Hopefully in dlc you can break off a skelly rib and use it as a weapon
raven silo
I thought the tooth wasn't from skelly, I remember a line about something like that
*the tooth of course is recieved from skelly, but it's not skelly's tooth
solar abyss
Best keepsake is the one that blocks boss hits
fading gazelle
Acorn
velvet plaza
not entirely sure why, but ive decided it might be fun to turn off healing, I'll update y'all when I've friggin died
solar abyss
Five different people didn't insta contradict me so I must have said something true
fading gazelle
I mean a lot of people agree with you
supple field
i really like broken spearpoint personally
thick ledge
acorns great and all but have you ever had pierced butterfly with 40% bonus attack damage
thick ledge
tbh tho i have no preference
gusty slate
I'm too bad at the game to use butterfly lol
thick ledge
butterfly is really fun when you get it to work
raven silo
I usually go the following keepsake progression throughout my run: Egg, Coinpurse, (whatever I'm feeling like, or tooth), tooth
fading gazelle
butterfly is really fun when you get it to work
Isn't everything fun when you get it to work?
thick ledge
i only go coinpurse if i have the 15% money darkness buff
you know
thats true not volty LLO
LOL
raven silo
Coinpurse is nice to just pick up whenever I think
gusty slate
Plume is nice
solar abyss
I do Random God Keepsake > Egg > Acorn
raven silo
free money
thick ledge
but if you do get a run where it works out it feels fantastic
i like egg early because you get chaos rooms early with less risk
since tartarus is easy to clear even with them
raven silo
that's the same reason IS tart with egg
solar abyss
Yeah but first area is totally free, you don't need the health
raven silo
sometimes I go through tartarus without any gates though
gusty slate
Eating damage is what I do
thick ledge
feels bad if your first one is in asphodel
i just like having the gurantee
aight guys
im off to do my first heat 16 run
gusty slate
Right before Elysium boss? Absolutely
thick ledge
wish me luck X_X
raven silo
egg isn't a guarintee, I swear I've gone through asphodel without any gates when I had egg
solar abyss
Two different times I've bought a chaos portal from charon's cauldron and didn't get the portal because it was a fountain
thick ledge
wait i thought it was
i've always gotten it
while it was equiped
so guess im perma lucky with it so far
gusty slate
There's a decent chance to get it though
supple field
i've gotten literally 3 boons this run wtf
gusty slate
Game is saying you're good enuff without boons
supple field
im at temple of styx and 3 boons
gusty slate
It believes in you
supple field
4 technically, i got a hermes one
gusty slate
All one needs
solar abyss
hermes boons are trash or is it just me
gusty slate
sad fast boi noises
solar abyss
+1 dash is okay
thick ledge
hermes has some really good boons
gusty slate
I like Hermes' boons
supple field
i like his dodge one and his extra zoom speed one and the +1 dash
gusty slate
Which ones are trash o.O?
thick ledge
on the bright side you cant get more then 2 hermes boons per run
supple field
3, you can get it at charon styx shop
solar abyss
it is
thick ledge
but extra dashes while strong, is not as great as it sounds
because you have to readjust muscle memory
thick ledge
auto casting casts also feels bad
cause i swear i always just cast all 3 when i dont want to :((
aight anyways, be back in an hour hopefully having beaten heat 16
gusty slate
Autocast can be nice
velvet plaza
so far, elysium without healing, so its going pretty well
supple field
nice, fighting redacted with 5 boons, one being hermes' zoom zoom after a dash
supple field
only 2 weapon related ones i got are demeter's chill on attack and her chill decay one
no dash boon 🙂
gusty slate
You must believeeee
gusty slate
see, game knew you could do it with minimal help
velvet plaza
update to the no healing run, I got lifesteal on my blade, there is now a chance
supple field
posted screenshot in #h1-victory-boasting
dusky wagon
Which of the diamond-buildings are the best? Is Vanquisher's Keep worth it?
terse geyser
@dusky wagon which of them have you purchased so far?
if you don't have any, I'd say darker darkness is the best one to get
dusky wagon
"Darkness, Pitch Black"?
dusky wagon
Bought it thanks. I was between this or Vanquisher's Keep, but dunno how much it yields
terse geyser
vanquisher's keep is a good amount of gems, but pitch-black darkness will help you win more runs and get more diamonds
which you can use to buy Vanquisher's Keep
velvet plaza
Posted my no healing win in #h1-victory-boasting
pastel flume
Still havent had the other weapon aspects unlocked yet
scenic wharf
Do you get bounty rewards for EVERY heat level from 1 to whatever the max is? Seems like a lot
raven silo
well you need to spend a lot of titan's blood to get every upgrade, and I think there are some endgame resource sinks too
split swift
You get rewards from 0 to 20
scenic wharf
Oh, that makes sense. Cause if you got it till 32, youd have nearly 400 titans blood
seems like a bit of an overkill
scenic wharf
That's also fair
maiden mulch
does starting with a god keepsake guarantee that god to be in your pool of 4 or is it separate?
wind nest
the god keepsakes actually override the pool of 4 rule
winter stratus
What is the pool of 4 rule?
wind nest
Once you have traits from 4 different gods, the game won't spawn you any other gods
So if you have zeus posideon artemis ares, you can't get dionysus boons in the game
winter stratus
Ahhh, that makes sense
I thought that it would pick 1 god randomly and never show that got up unless you pulled out their keepsake.
For a while I was trying to get a boon from every god, it felt more thematic.
But that's good to know, thanks for the info
maiden mulch
so it adds a fifth to the pool or is it the only boon you're getting if that god isn't in the pool?
gusty slate
Kicks another out
tired zodiac
yo i’m confused on why my prize for the first boss hasn’t been the titans blood in a while ,,, anyone know why ??
maiden mulch
oh, so starting with let's say Poseidon means your god pool is Poseidon+3, and then if you take his keepsake later, it kicks out a random god that was already available and replaces them with Poseidon
tired zodiac
how can i get more later ?
gusty slate
Beat the final boss and you'll learn the way. Also broker, charonshop, and prophecies
tired zodiac
ohh okay thank you
gusty slate
but there's a trick you can use if you want to test aspects before committing blood
tired zodiac
a trick ?
gusty slate
Go to courtyard, spend the blood, DO NOT GO INTO BEDROOM. Go on a run to test, then either altf4 before death or Give up to revert save back to courtyard save. No blood spent/committed
That run never existed
raven silo
note that the limmit can technically be broken by equipping a god's keepsake, but you can only get one boon from that god, they don't join in your pool of four
raven silo
so if you had posiedon/zeus/dio/aphrodite you won't be able to add athena to that pool by taking her keepsake to elysium
gusty slate
Yeah it's a good trick to test so you can feel you made the most informed choice xD
maiden mulch
oh, so it doesn't kick a god out, it just fills a slot if that slot isn't full yet
maiden mulch
so starting with the money isn't strictly optimal if you want a specific god
dense quarry
if you really want a challenge, make sure your controller is going bad to the point where your character constantly runs even after your left analog isn't even moved
raven silo
sounds like playing on the switch version of hades
gusty slate
Oh, so one of the first four Gods doesnt get booted? huh
I must've remembered wrong then
raven silo
I remember somebody else say it just give you one, I don't know if it's accurate, somebody cool can correct me though if they know 100%
supple field
ngl i think im getting a bit burned out after 8 days of nonstop playing
maiden mulch
or if you make sure to only take boons from 3 different gods, you can pick your 4th when you get to Asphodel regardless of what spawned
queen frigate
Take a break @supple field
supple field
8 days, 98 hours
gusty slate
That's why I do my chill runs
queen frigate
Distance yourself from this discord for a while
You’ll want to play again in a week or two
gusty slate
Can't burnout when there's no heat
supple field
im gonna do some suicide runs for dialogue
fair dove
dense quarry
go for 30
solar abyss
What does dark foresight mean? Higher chance of getting those things vs. boons?
Why would you not want boons
raven silo
that's the one with the extra chance for gold laurel rooms, right?
solar abyss
What's gold laurel mean
raven silo
uhhh frick there's a guide image somewhere but I don't have it
anyone got the door guide?
supple field
solar abyss
Are they the extra dangerous rooms with increased rarity?
raven silo
yeah that one
basically gold laurel rooms contain items that are lost when you die, blue laurels contain items you keep after death
solar abyss
oh so dark foresight is really good
raven silo
it can be good, but you also get a lot less of things like nectar which are good for progressing outside of the main area
solar abyss
Pft, I never find nectar anyway
raven silo
I play with it and I only ever get nectar from the dio boon really
you can get upgrades later that make the blue laurel things give upgrades for your run too (the things in brackets on that guide)
solar abyss
This guide image needs to be in the literal game
I didn't even know the difficulty encounter had levels like that
thick ledge
:(( i ran out of time during the last fight on heat 16
tall seal
where do you get titan blood after it stops dropping
gusty slate
Beat the final boss to learn how to get more consistently. However, ||Charon shop, Prophecies||, and Broker Shade have them too
raven silo
oh yeah the ||shop there does have a random diamond/blood on every visit doesn't it||
supple field
yes
solar abyss
does vanquisher's keep give enough gems to be worth it?