h1-discussion

[hardy tapir]

I think fists are cool I just suck terribly with them

[raven horizon]

My first win was with the fists ironically lol

The weakness effect is what helped me I think, they made my mistakes not so hurtful

[coral timber]

Specially because ever since the extreme measures on Hades, I get hit constantly with the fists against Redacted

[raven horizon]

But the fists get painful after a while, or at least how I played them

[coral timber]

I have the feeling that the bloody things keep you locked down on the ground for an amount of time

[raven horizon]

“Hold square and tap x”

[hardy tapir]

That may be true about the spear but it's my best weapon and I love it

[coral timber]

which is the time I need to dodge, and well.

[shell lion]

Hey does jolt stack?

[coral timber]

Or at least it feels as if the fists slow you down when attacking.

[smoky wharf]

I feel bad for my boi thanatos

he shows up to help but i always beat more enemies than him

and using the bow in tartarus i killed all the enemies b4 he could kill a single one

[hardy tapir]

I like how he gets annoyed when you kill enemies he's marked

Too slow bro, sorry

And yeah, he's pretty easy to beat

[smoky wharf]

oof gotta interrupt my run for class...

[hardy tapir]

I haven't lost to him but I did tie once

[smoky wharf]

what happens if you tie?

[hardy tapir]

You still get the heart

[smoky wharf]

ah

i enjoy thanatos showing up but i feel bad for him because zagreus just kills sometimes

[coral timber]

Bloody hell, this random system is starting to annoy me. First Spear for the extra stuff, then the fists, and back to the spear again.

[smoky wharf]

i only got the spear once

also if you want to use another weapon then nothing is stopping you from doing so

unless your going for the dark crystals

or green ones

[coral timber]

Well I do need some of em

so not much of a choice there if I wanna collect 3174 dark crystals lol

[smoky wharf]

oof

for me the only weapon i'd have a problem with getting is the spear

feels the most bland to me

i enjoy every other weapon tho

[coral timber]

Guan Yu's aspect is nice

mostly cause I enjoy LARPing as Guan Yu, and the lifesteal is nice

[hardy tapir]

That's the hidden aspect yeah?

How exactly do you unlock them?

[oak spear]

ya hidden spear aspect is the most fun for me once it's fully upgraded, until then it is painful

[coral timber]

It's the first hidden aspect ya get

[smoky wharf]

how do you get the hidden aspects tho...

[thick ledge]

keep playing

[smoky wharf]

kk

[thick ledge]

you'll naturally get it

[plucky sail]

You gotta spend a certain ammount of blood on the weapon too

And then rng

[thick ledge]

yea make sure you're not saving it until youy get them

cause otherwise you wont get them

[inland shell]

@smoky wharf check the pinned on #h1-story-discussion if you want spoilers

[smoky wharf]

i was just wondering if there was a specific thing to unlock it

[coral verge]

look at the pinned messages in #h1-story-discussion

[inland shell]

@plucky sail its not RNG

[plucky sail]

Yes it is. It's rng wether you get the trigger phrases from the NPCs

[inland shell]

that is more up to the player and their progress and indirect. once you have the conditions met, it will happen

[hardy tapir]

Ok, thanks for the tips

[smoky wharf]

looked the requirements for the first one, and found out i just need to play the game as i've reached the conditions... fun

[inland shell]

@sacred lava Is this a question? I think you should get them all? Also ask this in spoilers #h1-story-discussion

[sacred lava]

oh ok i thought that i can discuss here

[inland shell]

Do we have a full map of the underworld as seen when you transition between zones?

[frozen roost]

whats the best god for cast dmg?

[inland shell]

chaos

[split wyvern]

So i just unlocked rama and there's one attack i can't seem to get consistenly. "Release M1 while flashing to power shot"

[inland shell]

pick a cast you like and weapon with synergy and go

[frozen roost]

wat

you cant just

have chaos pop up all the time

lol

most chaos ive had was 2 in a run

[inland shell]

all bows have powershot @split wyvern

[frozen roost]

im thinking of going hera ares/artemis

unsure though

[inland shell]

@frozen roost chaos can offer the most damage for casts

[frozen roost]

yes but i mean

someone except chaos

olympian gods

chaos is underworld god afaik

[inland shell]

doesnt matter, just pick a cast you like

[split wyvern]

gotcha

[inland shell]

there are several duos

[terse geyser]

So i just unlocked rama and there's one attack i can't seem to get consistenly. "Release M1 while flashing to power shot"
@split wyvern you don't need the powershot for rama

it deals a lot of damage

[frozen roost]

i wanna see how much dmg heras bow can do

when maxed out

lol

[terse geyser]

only charge it as long as you feel safe

[frozen roost]

i wonder if i can 1 shot any boss

[inland shell]

artemis alone does crazy single target

[frozen roost]

using that bow

[inland shell]

you well you need other passive boons too

[frozen roost]

im thinking of running

the

deal 30% dmg from afar

item

i forgot who gives that

[inland shell]

Chaos, Ares multipliers, Aphro debuff, Dyno debuff

Artemis/Posiedon double cast

[frozen roost]

wat why would i need aphro and dyno debuffs

on a 1shot build

[inland shell]

Chaos +1 casts

[terse geyser]

dino debuff 👀

[inland shell]

why? for the most damage

[jade crescent]

for boiling blood, is it only 50% when it's stuck in them, or if you stick 3 in them do you get 150%

[frozen roost]

that makes no sense though

[terse geyser]

dio

[frozen roost]

they will be dead before i can debuff

[inland shell]

what? all games have debuffs and that is how you can get the most damage

not bosses

or higher heat

[frozen roost]

you cant debuff someone that gets 1 shot

thats not how that works

[inland shell]

most debuffs will be multiplicative damage

increases

i think you have a very narrow view here haha

[terse geyser]

it is possible to one shot a phase of the boss
which usually clears status effects anyways

[inland shell]

but i get it

[frozen roost]

maybe i do

xD

not many hrs

just like 15 or so

[inland shell]

i mean any rpg game, debuffs rule

[terse geyser]

yes, debuffs in this game are good, but one-shot builds are in fact possible

[inland shell]

diablo, poe, skyrim, any thing

[frozen roost]

i play a lot of poe

well in poe usually buffs are king

not really debuffs

unless you boss fight

[inland shell]

exactly

curses, hypothermia, etc

[frozen roost]

yea but thats not a 1shot build

[inland shell]

MORE multipliers

its 1 shot if you deal 1 instance of damage

even if you have other effects

"quick shot" maybe

if youre lazy, but without debuffs you will never get the biggest numbers

[frozen roost]

i guess you have a poitn if you count dyon debuff as not doing anything except weakening

wait

thats aphro

not dion*

[queen frigate]

Do the challenge chambers that have glowing boons give them at a higher rarity?

[terse geyser]

dio

[inland shell]

Dio has his legendary

its OP

[terse geyser]

please, folks, his name is dionysus and his accepted community nickname is d i o

Do the challenge chambers that have glowing boons give them at a higher rarity?
@queen frigate yes

[jade crescent]

you're gonna dion this hill

[queen frigate]

Lmao

And thanks @terse geyser

[frozen roost]

the only legendary ive ever had was chaos one

[trail onyx]

is trading ambrosia for titan blood worth it?

[jade crescent]

I'd never trade the endgame materials

only ones like purple and gems

[coral verge]

you only get 1 ambrosia per run but you get 2 blood per run, 3 if you buy it from Styx store

[jade crescent]

you need 306 titan blood to max your weapons

[queen frigate]

Is there a point to gems after all the work orders? Just cosmetics?

[jade crescent]

pretty much. if you haven't already there's a quest later down the line that needs a bunch of lounge upgrades though

[queen frigate]

Okay, I’ll save them for that. Thanks for the heads up

[viscid hinge]

Does more heat also increase the darkness you get?

[opaque nexus]

how do you even unlock the new fists

[serene obsidian]

@viscid hinge no it does not, in fact if you are farming darkness you're better of on a heat you already cleared because the bosses drop darkness

@opaque nexus you need encounters with Asterius solo

[jade crescent]

so you have to lose to the final boss, then do a run with fists??

[viscid hinge]

@serene obsidian so increasing the heat does not make bosses drop more darkness? That's strange

[serene obsidian]

I don't believe it does......you basically run the highest hear you can for bounties or heat 0 for farming darkness ...or one of the stopgaps for Extreme Measures practice

[brisk trail]

Is there a reason the ||garden|| exist? Am I going to progress and build it in the future?

[jade crescent]

when you're in the labyrinth before the final boss, is there any way to determine which routes are more likely to have the satyr sack?

I wish we could use our gems to put stuff there ceo 😦

also I don't think there's anything important in hades room except for that one story point

[brisk trail]

There's ||title creation|| thing

[jade crescent]

oh I don't have that unlocked yet then 👀

[hoary canopy]

Just talk to hades more

Eventually he'll give you the authority

[jade crescent]

ye

[brisk trail]

I got like 75 keys should I spend them all on nectar?

Dunno what else I can use keys on at this point other than rerolling talents on the mirror

[jade crescent]

there's a late game cosmetic that needs 200 keys

[brisk trail]

Hm

I guess I won't be getting that for a long time and I got like a lot of companions who need nectar

[balmy elm]

oh oops

[native pivot]

god that credits song is SO GOOD

[opaque orbit]

I haven’t checked the game since 1.0 release; are there graphics options yet?

my friend’s PC sucks and he wants to know if the graphics can be turned down

[analog elbow]

There are only resolution options

[light mural]

I post this here as well 🙂 I hope it's allowed https://imgur.com/a/O4AKAaL

[analog elbow]

lmao

F10 that

[quiet geyser]

look at that little baddie on the wall tho 🤤

[jade crescent]

the aphrodite poster

[mint plume]

lol

[dusty spade]

so hot that even the text wants a piece of her

[light mural]

It happened yesterday and I forgot about F10 🙂

[mint plume]

lol

[jade crescent]

what's f10 do

[quiet geyser]

bug report

[dusty spade]

report bugs

[jade crescent]

is it possible to have 2 hidden aspect quests at once? I just got the passphrase for the shield, but if I find a solo asterias can he still tell me about the fists?

[light mural]

yes

I had multiple without knowing about them 🙂

[queen frigate]

If I clear a run at 5 heat and then do a run at 7 heat, will I get double bounty rewards? Like for doing 6 and 7?

[jade crescent]

you would get the rewards for 6

[queen frigate]

So I’d have to do two runs at 7 heat to get the drops?

[jade crescent]

pretty much

[queen frigate]

Unfortunate.

[clear valve]

guys, achiev "somethign from everyone" is bugged?

[jade crescent]

did you get one from ||hades||?

[gusty slate]

Yeah achieves been a bit weird

[clear valve]

no, ||persephone came home in my last run, now i can give nectar to hades?||

[hallow yew]

ooh i was just about the ask the same thing

[jade crescent]

you gotta advance the story a little bit

[hallow yew]

epilogue i guess?

[jade crescent]

not quite that far

[clear valve]

cool

thx

[jade crescent]

👍

[chilly stump]

Hey @hallow yew ! Please spoiler tag that in this channel, endgame boss is still "spoiler" territory for now.

It's also welcome down in #h1-story-discussion or #h1-builds-and-combat

[jade crescent]

some rando told me I had to spoiler tag stuff in the spoiler channel

[proven crown]

I post this here as well 🙂 I hope it's allowed https://imgur.com/a/O4AKAaL
@light mural clearly Zagerus is just trying to offer some diamonds to Aphrodite

[chilly stump]

Yeah Waffle, we're still sort of navigating best practices for a server of this size! Generally speaking really new fresh content is good to spoiler tag there out of general consideration for others.

[young iris]

is dark thirst really random? I know it excludes the last weapon you used but I've just hit 30 runs and havae never had it on the aegis.

[jade crescent]

huh

but wouldn't that entire chat be mostly black boxes then?

[terse geyser]

anybody having trouble reacting to radish's feedback?

[jade crescent]

maybe he blocked you 👀

[chilly stump]

Not necessarily! When we talk about story spoilers, we've implemented story progression through development. "New content" really just covers what was newly added in the previous update - this one is just larger because it was the v1.0 update!

[jade crescent]

ohh

[hallow yew]

oops, my bad 😅

[terse geyser]

maybe he blocked you 👀
oh. actually looks like that's it

weird

[jade crescent]

lol

[rough token]

wait Haelface you're Lysol

I just realized that

[terse geyser]

yep

[gusty slate]

My memory is goldfish level

I don't question name changes , but I probably wouldn't notice

[terse geyser]

wait Haelface you're Lysol
I just realized that
tatz outed me on the first day can you believe it

[rough token]

yes, actually

[jade crescent]

what do you guys take on the final boss, broken spearpoint or acorn? (or tooth, I'm running the alternate death defiant)

[rough token]

(anyway, bai~, class is about to start)

[terse geyser]

Acorn tanks a lot of damage, even on minimum level

that's what I use

[gusty slate]

Tooth isn't bad either since you're running green defiance

[terse geyser]

usually

[gusty slate]

but acorn probably the better tank

[terse geyser]

acorn is just more effective health than tooth

[jade crescent]

after spear nerf do people just not use it?

[gusty slate]

Well I'm an idiot, so spearpoint is what I use

Oh it was nerfed?

[jade crescent]

it only activates every 7 seconds

[gusty slate]

Thought that was always how it was

[terse geyser]

the trouble with spearpoint is just that it only works if you're being comboed often

[jade crescent]

used to be super strong because every damage hit would give you 1.5 free seconds 👀

[gusty slate]

That's pretty broke

[terse geyser]

it's had the cooldown since Nighty-night 👀

how long have you been playing

[jade crescent]

I think I got the game around christmas

it didn't have achievements, and there was no story after you killed the final boss, so I dropped for a while

[terse geyser]

long winter update then, right?

or was it before that

[jade crescent]

unsure, I haven't really kept up with patch notes

[gusty slate]

Beats me, but I run spearpoint for poison too tbh

I like to run into mobs by accident apparently

[terse geyser]

but yeah that sounds like the ultimate facetank keepsake
better than acorn, better than bracer

[gusty slate]

Well... I'm a facetanker

[jade crescent]

i normally face tank as well... but also I gotta learn attacks so I can dodge when it get's too hard to face tank lol

[gusty slate]

I've somehow cleared 19 heat on all weapons

[thorn trellis]

If I have the duo boon Blizzard Shot, is the option to swap the cast available with other gods? Or no

[gusty slate]

If you swap you'll lose the duo effect, no?

[thorn trellis]

Is that confirmed?

[gusty slate]

I believe some duos will break without their pre-req

[terse geyser]

if you get rid of flood shot you will lose the blizzard effect

same with ice wine and trippy shot

hunting blades
crystal clarity

[thorn trellis]

Okay, that's good to know. Basically don't try and loophole the duos

[gusty slate]

Yeah those duos modify the existing boons, so you need the existing boon

Some are more general, so swaps are fine

[thorn trellis]

It'd be cool though, if you could get Blizzard Shot, and then switch to Zeus' Electric Shot

[gusty slate]

Can make blizzard shot do elec, pos/zeus duo

If that's the pos/dem duo

[thorn trellis]

Yea, but it doesn't bounce between enemies

[tulip acorn]

Is high voltage better than Double strike for chaos shield?

[jade crescent]

AHHHH https://imgur.com/a/N0OQuSt

killed him

green defiance sucks

[gusty slate]

Green defiance is popular up in high heats I hear

I'm just too bad to use it effectively

[jade crescent]

I could only see it being useful when you've got the bosses on lock, but you still get swarmed

[gusty slate]

Uber high heats makes any other healing null, so green defiance is useful

but these people probably know how to dodge, whereas I just eat damage

[gusty swift]

So I just had a weird, random idea. Not something worth feedback though cause I know it'd never happen. XD

[final lagoon]

do we only get our one good shade? I was kinda hoping you'd get more fans everytime you ||beat Thesius and Asterius||

[frozen roost]

Is it just me or chairon is just busted

Lol

[gusty swift]

Chiron is pretty great, yes.

[jade crescent]

chiron needs a lot to boost it

[maiden mulch]

its purpose on high heat is less the fact that it's good, and more the fact that all the better forms of healing are blocked

[gusty swift]

As for my weird random idea: New form/aspect for the Stygian Blade: Aspect of Muramasa. Uses a fast draw/iai style katana moveset.

[jade crescent]

I prefer the secret one

[gusty swift]

Rama's pretty good too, yes.

[maiden mulch]

Muramasa being an actual person kind of breaks the pattern though

(debates on whether or not ||King Arthur|| existed notwithstanding)

[gusty swift]

I mean, what about Guan Yu?

[gusty slate]

Don't think there is a pattern for the 4th aspects other than not being in the Greek Pantheon

[scarlet flint]

gilgamesh was an actual person

[supple field]

i think there is, legends of great warriors from different cultures

[scarlet flint]

probably

[gusty slate]

Oh well other than them being associated with the weapon somehow as warriors yeah

I guess I'm confusing this conversation with the one we were having on who whould get 4th aspect fist lol

[gusty swift]

Maybe Aspect of Musashi then, I just want an excuse to have a katana ;P

Preferably with Vergil style fast-draw attacks that inexplicably cut several times in one motion. ;P

[final lagoon]

Aspect of Jin Sakai :)

[real elm]

hades gonna have cross play save from swtich to pc anyone knows?

[maiden mulch]

i guess the line is more that if it's a historical figure, they had a full on apotheosis and were treated more as a mythological figure by later cultures

[silent axle]

guys how do i unlock excalibur

[maiden mulch]

like the historical Guan Yu and the god of war Guan Yu are two quite different entities

even if the latter is based on exaggerated stories of the former

[gusty slate]

How to unlock 4th aspects can be found pinned at #h1-story-discussion

Not sure if there is cross play save, would depend how the cloud works for switch?

I know later you can move your save over... dunno if that'll update between the 2

[supple field]

Arthur - King Arthur (kind of obvious)
Guan Yu - Chinese military general
Beowulf - main character of Old English epic poem, killed Grendel, Grendel's mother, and the dragon
Rama - 7th avatar of Hindu god Vishnu, slayed the demon king Ravana
Gilgamesh - main character of Epic of Gilgamesh, an epic poem from ancient Mesopotamia
Lucifer - fallen angel from Christianity, also known as Satan or the devil

[frozen roost]

dude wtf

i just lost a perfect run

build herra dionid + artemis + ares + athena

basically was hitting for 700 dmg

[gusty slate]

did it crash?

[frozen roost]

every cast

no

i got killed 3 times on ||hades||

i literally lost 0 hp everywhere else

[gusty slate]

We don't speak the Redacted's name

[pulsar nymph]

I love how dionysus talks with zero punctuation

[gusty slate]

Sounds like Redacted combo'd you really good

[frozen roost]

i loved seeing heras bow hit for 700 dmg at +1 titan blood

i just realized dionydus's drunk effect

is so busted

on bow at least

[gusty slate]

It's pretty good on fast hitting weapons yeah

[frozen roost]

i have yet to try fists

i should give them a try i think

but they seem so bad

because close range

[gusty slate]

My first clear was with fist

[frozen roost]

which one

oh you mean

first ever one

idk

[scarlet flint]

get ares attack with athena dash and mercful end

[frozen roost]

i have never tried a proper fist build

[scarlet flint]

on fists

[frozen roost]

i dont even know how id build fists

[final lagoon]

I actually just had my first clear with fists. I thought I hated them but theyre pretty decent

I went dio attack, aphro special

[gusty slate]

My cheese build is Athena on attack

Stack dodge and attack speed lol

[final lagoon]

and then took anything that gave me sturdy

[scarlet flint]

i did that once and lost to timer lol

[autumn sorrel]

Cheesing the Witches with a reflect ability is so very satisfying.

[frozen roost]

ye i cant see how fists would work with anything except aphro and dion

[gusty slate]

Zeus attack works too

[frozen roost]

my first and only clear has been with zeus spear so far

i basically melted everything

[gusty slate]

Ares attack, Athena dash with duo works wonders

[final lagoon]

posting in #h1-victory-boasting if anyone wants to see the build

[frozen roost]

i feel like building hera bow + dion + frost lady now

hmmm

perma slow lol

[gusty slate]

Sneak zeus into there too

[frozen roost]

nah i dont think heras bow goes well with zeus

only weapon ive found that works good with zeus is lance

[gusty slate]

Dio cast + Frost + Zeus duo is quite formidable

[frozen roost]

idk ..

or i just suck on melee weapons

[gusty slate]

I guess I would do Dem attack, Zeus Special, Dio cast personally for Hera

[frozen roost]

i cant play fists sword shield at all

i couldnt play lance very well before getting achilles as well

[supple field]

im awful at non melee weapons lmao

[gusty slate]

Takes some getting used to, shield at least you can build shield throw

I'm a jack of all trades, equally terrible at all weapons

[frozen roost]

i tried building deflect only on shield

with athena lmfao

that was a disaster

i only got 1 athena boon the entire run

XD

[twilit cobalt]

how do i unlocked the last aspect for each weapon? it just says "Aspect of ???"

[fair dove]

i cant play fists sword shield at all
@frozen roost yo we the opposite

I can play shield fist maybe spear

But I can’t play sword bow and gun

[supple field]

@twilit cobalt check here https://discordapp.com/channels/456889434672201729/521035166471159828/725092980829978655

[gusty slate]

Pins over in #h1-story-discussion might help

[distant abyss]

So your first couple God choices are usually what you get later on, right? Does purging affect that?

[gusty slate]

Not sure, I know that equipping a god keepsake while you have a full pool kicks someone out

[distant abyss]

So I started with Artemis keepsake, then was forced into picking a Zeus, which I don't want, and an ares, which I do. So purging the Zeus would knock him off the approved gods list? I hope?

[gusty slate]

Never tested, so can't help 😦

[frozen roost]

how

can you not play guns

you just face roll everything tbh

go zeus

and you trash everything

[fair dove]

What

U face roll everything with fist and shield

Gun is so ass

So clunky

[frozen roost]

wat

[fair dove]

No smoothness

[frozen roost]

wymmm

[gusty slate]

Same with Zeus aspect shield, I like having a lightning beyblade in my pocket

[fair dove]

I want what ur smoking

[frozen roost]

smoking rails with zeus

works nice

i tried

zeus demeter + dion

[gusty slate]

It does, I prefer special builds though lol

[frozen roost]

once

[fair dove]

Have u tried fist with Zeus attack

[frozen roost]

that was fun

no

[fair dove]

Fist with merciful end is a wet dream

[frozen roost]

i wanna make a build with poseidon tbh

i find him useless in all weapons

lul

[gusty slate]

His cast with duos is wonderful

I had a pos special build going on fist with some hammers

[brisk trail]

im max affinity with chaos now... how do I get the favor to complete for her?

slash him idk

[fair dove]

Poseidon Zeus duo is good

[gusty slate]

Uh their favour is with Nyx

So might need to start bribing Nyx with nectars

[brisk trail]

did you answer me poke?

[supple field]

chaos' favor is intertwined with nyx's, so you need to max them both

[queen wharf]

Do I still need Gems if the House Contractor isn't offering anything? Do I still need Keys if I've unlocked all weapons and everything in the mirror? Can I trade all these for Nectar?

[gusty slate]

You can trade them for nectar, they're not terribly hard to get. More stuff unlocks as you progress though if I recall

Unless you've taken down all the gem and key sinks

[queen wharf]

Hmm, okay, thanks

[brisk trail]

thanks @gusty slate , @supple field

[supple field]

np

[gusty slate]

It's also going to be down to RNG dialogue. That favour is a long one

[reef pasture]

@queen wharf did you already buy all of the end-game vanity items?

[queen wharf]

@reef pasture I haven't bought any vanity items, I'm working on progression right now. Nectar is extremely useful.

[gusty slate]

That's a good strat

[reef pasture]

oh okay sounds like you're not at the Hades end-game status yet; then sure, go ahead you probably have a ton more runs left to play around with and get more resources

[queen wharf]

Oh I'll be playing for a while yet, I'm sure

[hot shore]

Is there a place where to report buggs or something of that sort?

[supple field]

if you're on pc you can press F10

[hot shore]

Thanks

[supple field]

np

[gusty slate]

Where do Switch folks report bugs?

[supple field]

that i dont know

[gusty slate]

I've just been telling people to go to tech support :/

[supple field]

yea probably best

[opaque nexus]

How does attack and special “speed” work

Is it just speeding up the animation or the projectile speed

[gusty slate]

Depends

Things like Shield throw get both I think

[opaque bough]

attack speed just means you attack faster, or charge attacks faster, or whatever's applicable

[gusty slate]

Usually it's an animation speed up yeah

[opaque bough]

far as I know there isn't much for projectile speed apart from some Hammer upgrades maybe

[gusty slate]

Ah maybe it is just only animation speed

or tick speed depending on aspect

[opaque nexus]

I do know guan yu spin ticks faster

[opaque bough]

and yes Epic attack speed with the Fists + "damage per hit on the same enemy" hammer is pretty stupid

[potent carbon]

Do god keepsakes work in Asphodel?

Every time I switch to it before Asphodel I get boon from a different god

Only time I’ve seen it work is as a starting keepsake

[gusty slate]

Is it Hermes beating you?

I found switching to god keepsake works fairly well, Hermes only one that beats it

[narrow hemlock]

that a trait specific to hermes, at times he will appear before other gods. thats intended.

[flat vapor]

hermes doesn't count as a traditional olympian, mechanically

[narrow hemlock]

your keepsakes have an indicator for this, under the star there will be an arrow when the keepsake's effect hasn't been used yet (you will see this on well items and chaos boons as well, indicating those things are still ongoing)

[inland shell]

Can you get Curse of Drowning on Hera bow?

[analog elbow]

Yes but it doesn't work as you think it would

[stark marlin]

Hi all, on witch thread should i report a bug?

[analog elbow]

You press F10 ingame

[supple field]

^on pc

[gusty slate]

If you're on switch... #h1-tech-support ?

[opaque bough]

feedback channel maybe

[stark marlin]

im on switch

thanks

[gusty slate]

I know they check tech support, not sure if they are still actively checking feedback

[quaint wind]

yeah do #h1-tech-support not feedback

[gusty slate]

Thanks for the clarification

[spring dragon]

Man.. I just wanna say, I haven't felt love for a game like this since Binding of Isaac. Lol

[jade crescent]

woooah the secret aspect shield is kinda insane

I basically 5 tapped a fury with it

[gusty slate]

The almighty board

The best serving platter around boyo

[lucid glade]

how do you get the secret aspect weapons?

[flat vapor]

check pins in #h1-story-discussion

[lucid glade]

oh thank you!

[brisk trail]

Ive played this game for like 12 hours and I just realized you can use keyboard + mouse... is it good?

[flat vapor]

from what i've heard, controller vs kbm is better movement vs better aiming

personally i use kbm

[brisk trail]

makes sense

[jade crescent]

that pin doesn't have twin fists

[brisk trail]

ty

[gusty slate]

Oh it needs to be updated? darn

[flat vapor]

that pin is from blood price, but the same general principle applies

[gusty slate]

Need to have fist equipped however

[brisk trail]

When can I give Sisyphus ambrosia? He’s had two talks with Meg, one with than, but there’s no option to lighten his burden at the contractor

[gusty slate]

Need to talk to ||Hades and Nyx|| too no?

[brisk trail]

Maybe

I’ll try

[gusty slate]

It'll come up at least once ||Nyx tells you the location in the admin room, but I think you're missing Hades' opinion|| on the idea?

RNG dialogue is mean

[brisk trail]

Ok

Thanks

[stuck comet]

Dude, Exagryph deals so much damage

I got two daedalus hammers to make it shoot a spread of death rockets and nothing can survive

"Shotgun builds bad" what if the shotgun pellets are actually rockets

[cobalt maple]

oh yeah that's a big special

also shotgun builds can be decent

you just need zeus

[stuck comet]

Oh. Neat

[gusty slate]

shotgun builds are fun

[halcyon mauve]

Is there a way to see who killed me most?

[modern arrow]

hey is there any requirements to get 'rare' fish? I keep getting the same handful of fish and I'm really wondering if I'm missing out on something obvious or not

[charred viper]

just got asked this question but does having two different dio attacks that inflict different levels of hangover damage stack differently?

since one does 5 and the other does 7 damage over time

[upper basin]

is it me or do athena boons turn the game into a cakewalk?

[gusty slate]

Fishing

Less than 0.34 second: Perfect catch. Guaranteed to catch a Rare fish. 5% chance to catch a Legendary fish
0.34 second to 1.0 second: Catch. 5% chance to catch a Rare fish.
After 1 second: fail with a "Too Late" message.

I feel like the stack damage would depend on what instance of hangover is inflicted... but I'm not sure

[rain cedar]

@upper basin Athena boons are certainly powerful but they have their limits. As soon as you start to go up the heat meter the 'invincibility' from athena is over

[jade crescent]

the extreme measures theseus was fricken hilarious, good job devs

[rain cedar]

I just started using Forced overtime and it's like turning the game up to 11 holy moly x-D

No athena dash will save you from that madness alone ^^

[gusty slate]

I have FO2 on at all times lol

[rain cedar]

Well you are certainly further ahead than me then ^^ I'm doing my own pace

[gusty slate]

Of course, it's a different ball game with FO

[rain cedar]

Have been doing my own 'difficulty scaling' since the 1st escape so the story progress feels more rewarding

[gusty slate]

I just forgot to agree

but it feels good once you get used to it

[rain cedar]

and now after 5 escapes FO is onmy list and holy moly jury summons + forced overtime, no more half asleep walking through the 1st worlf ^^

world x-D

[gusty slate]

Nope lol

Got butt kicked in Tartarus first starting with FO

Especially the sneak...

[rain cedar]

I just got bodies by Asterius. Hadn't lost to that miniboss in ages but middle management + forced overtime... he had some STUFF to settle with me 😛

fun

[gusty slate]

Oh Asterius is my DD sink

his drifting abilities become super good with FO on...

[rain cedar]

yeah plus.. how do I put it... all my timing instincts are wrong on the Bosses it feels...

[gusty slate]

Yeah it'll be off by that little bit

[rain cedar]

Hydra is not so dofferent as it's a screen full of stuff either way

but rest I will have to practice

fun 🙂

[gusty slate]

Yeah, good luck!

[pulsar nymph]

Whenever I beat ||thesius|| I like to stand in the middle of the arena and let the crowd cheer lol

[gusty slate]

Do you greet supporter shade?

[rain cedar]

Have oyu found your biggest fan? 😉

EXACTLY!

[gusty slate]

Supporter shade believes in me more than

[stuck comet]

How do I get a Companion?

[jade crescent]

does one of the shades flash you or something?

[stuck comet]

I've spent ages on this game and still haven't gotten anyone yet

[flat vapor]

plot twist: supporter shade is bouldy

[supple field]

i didnt realize we could talk to supporter shade until now, so i gotta find him again :C

[gusty slate]

Look for a red shade with a Zag banner

Top left

[rain cedar]

@stuck comet Deepen your relationship with your friends you then get a quest for it 🙂

[stuck comet]

I literally maxed out Mr.Spear man

Achilles, that's the one

[supple field]

you gotta keep doing runs and trigger dialogue

[stuck comet]

I guess

[gusty slate]

His favour is intertwined with someone else

[rain cedar]

Achiles has a companion quest! You just gotta trigger it. Tipp: He's a hero who SHOULD be in another underworld 😉

[gusty slate]

So just gotta give nectar like crazy to everyone xD, have you met ||Patty? (Patroclus)||

Make sure you're checking codex if you bump into people...

For the first time at least

[rain cedar]

Always read codex. Hints how to complete quests are in the codex 🙂

[gusty slate]

Oh... I guess codex does do that .. nervous laughter

[rain cedar]

Man I gotta say. At first I was kinda disapointed that there is no 'Endgame content' in terms of extra world & Bosses for teh super lategame (and I still hope they add some of that) but once I let go of the thought that it was weird for a roguelite to let me chose my own difficulty I gotta say. Hades has a LOT of stuff to learn master & discover for lategame 🙂

[gusty slate]

Hours of content yeah

[calm bone]

Just bought this game the other day and beat it for the first time and I was disappointed to find out that ||Hades|| was the final boss when I thought eventually we'd get to Olympus and the Choas realm.

[gusty slate]

Final boss name is spoils!

We call 'em Redacted

[worldly flare]

🤔

[gusty slate]

Can spoiler by using || on both sides

[worldly flare]

Like ||this||

[gusty slate]

|| boh of them sorry

[worldly flare]

| | this | |

without spaces

[calm bone]

there ya go

whoops

[worldly flare]

👌

No problem, it happens

[rain cedar]

@

Just bought this game the other day and beat it for the first time and I was disappointed to find out that ||Hades|| was the final boss when I thought eventually we'd get to Olympus and the Choas realm.
@calm bone We just talked about this. Read above. I had the exact same feeling. But the heat system hides a lot of content & challenges WAY cooler than just 'more dmg, more enemies' etc. 🙂

I personally just made it my challenge to add a few heat modifiers every escape so that I really have to work for what you get after.

But fighting the Olympians as super lategame Bosses at some point would still be cool I agree 😆

[supple field]

spoiler boss name in your quote please!

[rain cedar]

oh damn my bad

[gusty slate]

nonono is final boss

[supple field]

uh no its

[gusty slate]

pulls the strings behind the scenes

is the front

[rain cedar]

Is just too adorable for this world. I could never fight her

[supple field]

its time for me to do resource runs + max out keepsakes

[swift marlin]

About how many runs do I need to win to finish the main storyline?

[queen frigate]

@swift marlin ||10||

[ocean kayak]

i really wanna talk to the guy who said that hades has no "wide, slow" weapons

buddy, i spent too many words frothing in anger over the wide, slow weapons.

[cyan python]

does anyone know if I can do heat levels out of order, or if I always have to play on a higher heat than last time. i.e. if I want to play on max heat and I beat all of the bosses, will I still be able to lower my heat (to something that I havent beaten yet) and get more rewards?

[supple field]

you can't get any more bounties once you escape with that heat level (bounties are the unique boss rewards)

[queen frigate]

You can’t do higher heat than an unfinished run. At least for rewards

[ocean kayak]

you can do them out of order to get the skelly prizes

[flat vapor]

you're never forced to do a specific heat level if you go higher than what the indicator says

you can go lower, go higher, if you want to go back down to heat 0 (or 5 on hell mode) you're absolutely free to

[cyan python]

wait so if I increase heat a bunch it wont give me rewards? or are you saying if my current max is heat 10, I beat the game on heat 20, it will give me the rewards as if I beat heat 10?

[flat vapor]

yes

[cyan python]

okok

makes sense

so theoretically

[flat vapor]

you'd have to beat heat 20 ten times to get all the rewards from 10-20

[cyan python]

you could just run max heat over and over again

[flat vapor]

yes

[cyan python]

gotcha

its $5 off, not insignificant but no the end of the world to miss

the game's not going anywhere

itll prob get the same discount come winter sale

or maybe even the fall sale

[patent lantern]

Does the Fated Keys contractor upgrade still give you Fated Authority if you switch to Fated Persuasion in the mirror?

[flat vapor]

it'll give you the fated mirror trait you currently have on

if you have persuasion on, keys will give you persuasion and vice-versa

[patent lantern]

Do the keys still give you something if you turn the upgrade off due to heat?

[flat vapor]

yes

it's the only way to get fated dice with that heat condition on

[patent lantern]

good to know thanks

[queen frigate]

Is the satyr sack always in the second hallway in Styx?

[ruby sedge]

I wish

[vast junco]

nope

[flat vapor]

nope, it's rng

[cyan python]

you can get it first try

[flat vapor]

if it were, the speedrunners would cry happy tears

[cyan python]

or last try if youre unlucky

[queen frigate]

So out of my 14 escapes, I got rng getting it on the second hallway every time?

[vast junco]

you can't get it in your first tunnel actually

[ruby sedge]

You can't get it first try

[vast junco]

second tunnel is the fastest

[flat vapor]

first chamber will never give the sack

anywhere between 2-5 tunnels

[cyan python]

@ruby sedge Ive gotten it first try before

really?

I swear I did

must be going insane

[fringe fiber]

yo where the hades memes at

[flat vapor]

look in #fan-works pins

and post some too, if you have any!

[ruby sedge]

Could've been a bug I guess lol but

Yeah it happens in tunnels 2-5

[flat vapor]

this is my favorite: https://discordapp.com/channels/456889434672201729/456936596227358720/537406921347432459

[ocean kayak]

slowpoke mode is on so gimme a minute

[queen frigate]

Why are the flaming skull pulses in the [redacted] fight sometimes invisible?

[cyan python]

they shouldnt be

[twilit cobalt]

@twilit cobalt check here https://discordapp.com/channels/456889434672201729/521035166471159828/725092980829978655
@supple field interesting - i'm on about my 26th run or so, but achilles hasnt mentioned anything yet 🤷‍♂️

[queen frigate]

You need to finish most of his plot dialogue @twilit cobalt

If he has a comment to make about the plot, it won’t happen.

[pastel flume]

Hey guys, Great game, Do have a question on how to get Thanatos to appear

[queen frigate]

Play more.

He is a random event

[pastel flume]

Hmm, According to the wiki im supposed to lose health a lot, which ive had happen

[queen frigate]

That doesn’t sound right to me.

[patent lantern]

iirc, the first time he shows up will always be in the ||Elysium||

[narrow hemlock]

make sure youve encountered all of the furies. its mostly rng though

[stuck condor]

I am getting frustrated. I don't get past the duos very often but when I do poison always kills me as there isn't a cure in the room what gives this sucks

[pastel flume]

Killed the furies a dozen or so times

[queen frigate]

You’ve gotten to the third boss?

I don’t recall seeing him before I had made it there

[pastel flume]

Ive done 14 runs and completed the story, so yeah 😛

[queen frigate]

Strange. I see Than every six runs or so. Not sure how to help tbh.

[supple field]

I am getting frustrated. I don't get past the duos very often but when I do poison always kills me as there isn't a cure in the room what gives this sucks
@stuck condor there is always a cure fountain, its the weird looking oasis like thing

[stuck condor]

Yea I was looking for it..but I couldn't because it ticks me down pretty fast from my low hp of 125 lol

[queen frigate]

125 is pretty low for Styx

[stuck condor]

But going around the room nothing was interactable

[river haven]

Any tips on getting fishing spots to spawn in ||Chaos's realm or Hades's boss fight||?

[queen frigate]

Spoiler tag please @river haven

[river haven]

How do I add tags?

[queen frigate]

Two | on both sides of what you want blocked

[patent lantern]

not sure if this is true, but I think fishing spots won't spawn if you've already seen a spot in the last 10 chambers

[queen frigate]

To answer your question though, without the Poseidon legendary for fishing, it’s just luck with a minimum of ten chambers between.

[river haven]

Is there a way to get that legendary in a normal run though?

[stuck condor]

I got it as a starting thing only choice lol

[queen frigate]

Yeah, you can get it starting with some luck

[patent lantern]

needs sunken treasure + another boon from posideon for it to show up

[coral verge]

you need like 2 boons for it to be available

[queen frigate]

The bounty one

[stuck condor]

not like I can get past poison it owns me..soo cheapppp

[flat vapor]

ocean's bounty

[queen frigate]

Yeah

[river haven]

Seriously? I've done over 600 runs and I only got it once due to it being a plot run

[granite ether]

That's a scripted event and only happens once @queen frigate

[queen frigate]

Starting with it?

[granite ether]

Yeah

[queen frigate]

Good to know

[ebon sleet]

hey if i upload a hades gameplay video to youtube can i mark it as family-friendly

or do i have to age restrict it

[stuck condor]

Done playing for today nothing is as crushing as making it to || Cerberus|| and dying to poison every time. It ticks down really fast I normally manage to get 175 hp but still lol

[queen frigate]

Is the game rated M? @ebon sleet

[cyan python]

dont think its been rated

[patent lantern]

a tip for satyrs, there's a sound cue before they fire, i only realized that pretty recently but it's definitely helped avoiding the poison from them

[lapis harbor]

Do individual biome 4 rooms count for levelling keepsakes?

[ebon sleet]

no its rated T for Teen

@queen frigate

[queen frigate]

I believe only M rated gameplay has to be marked as restricted

[flat vapor]

it's T for teen

[granite ether]

How things are rated is differant for differant countries ^_^

[queen frigate]

Oh yeah

[ebon sleet]

okay sweet

i saved a couple full-clears with interesting builds i wanted to upload them to youtube

[granite ether]

So making blanket statements like that doesn't help anyone

[ebon sleet]

hm?

[cyan python]

I think Pegi rating is a better indicator

age restricted content is 17+ (or 18+?)

so anything Pegi 18 would be age restricted I would guess

[queen frigate]

I only go by what a friend of mine has done for his videos. M rated games get marked restricted, but again that depends on the content in the video.

It’s all very convoluted.

[granite ether]

In Australia it's rated M

[cyan python]

depends on the country

US is a lot more tolerant of stuff like blood and violence

[ebon sleet]

i figured theres some rule of thumb like "oh yeah if the game is rated whatever then it will be age-restricted in terms of ads"

on YouTube

[granite ether]

Though i don't trust the esrb whatsoever but that's not a discussion for here

[cyan python]

^

[ebon sleet]

youtube age restriction means 18+, so in US its T for Teen and that means its okay for 13 y/o, and M in Australia is 17+ no? that means regardless Hades gameplay shouldn't get age-restricted

but who knows with the algorithm... i'm going to upload this and find out i guess

[granite ether]

15+ but those under 15 can access it with parental supervision

[cyan python]

I think youtube will auto-restrict if necessary but dont take my word for it

[ebon sleet]

It’s just straight gameplay no colour commentary (how it should be IMO)

[brisk trail]

question for developers

why dont you relase this game on gog?

[deft gull]

@stuck condor if you have the keepsake from || Patroclus ||, equip that. it will actually block poison damage for a little bit, giving you time to heal before it starts ticking down.

[stuck condor]

I don't know, I don't even recognize that name. will check when I get my courage back.

[deft gull]

It's the person you can encounter in Elysium. Keep a spare nectar around for him, because his keepsake is very, very good

[raven horizon]

Taking some +armor damage can help too, they’re pretty easy to stunlock once you get to their red bar

The problem is not slipping in their puddles until that point

[deft gull]

yeah, the rats and their poison puddles are so annoying. Especially if the entire floor is covered in it 😩

But that keepsake makes a world of difference, IMO, because it blocks all damage for x seconds after taking damage. So you get that first poison damage, and you can quickly go heal. (ofc, it won't help if you get poisoned during the cooldown)

[paper light]

What are your go to keepsakes? I usually start my runs with a god keepsake, switch to the coin purse for asphodel, then put on the bracer for the last 2 areas.

[raven horizon]

Can’t get poisoned if you never make it out of Tartarus

[deft gull]

For the longest time I would use that spearpoint starting in Elysium. I've only recently gotten to the point where I felt safe with something else

[coral verge]

oh wow, fishing on controller is easy mode compared to keyboard & mouse

[cobalt maple]

depends on the weapon honestly

[cyan python]

Is fishing different with KBM?

[coral verge]

no vibration

[deft gull]

you don't have the haptic feedback

[cyan python]

Oh

[raven horizon]

Fishing with intercontinental ballistic missiles generally isn’t too rewarding

[cyan python]

I just go off of sound and the flash in the water

@raven horizon stupid phone autocorrected when I hit send

[cobalt maple]

sometimes I'm hunting for a specific God in asphodel or elysium, mostly I get coin purse for asphodel and max hp one for elysium
then extra death defiance for last area

but if I didn't lose any defiances I pick bracer or something to boost damage
don't know because champions wreck me every time and I need that skelly keepsake to survive

[ocean kayak]

people think i'm not serious about those strongbows and I am

[craggy mango]

hi

where do i report a bug?

[smoky halo]

oh my god

guys

im stupid op

[gusty slate]

F10 for PC, #h1-tech-support for switch

[smoky halo]

i just got uh

mirage shot

and i have the dimeter cast

and

i have glacier glare and crystal clarity

so i fire two super tracking beams

with each cast

[gusty slate]

Yep

Strong stuff

[smoky halo]

which also chill the opponents and last for like 15+ seconds

[gusty slate]

and I barely have to do work XD

[worthy lantern]

How do I get approval to post in the feedback channel?

I can't find an FAQ on it.

[gusty slate]

Uh, is it a pin there?

[flat vapor]

look in the pins

[worthy lantern]

Derp, I'm still new to discord. My bad.

[flat vapor]

it's fine! no worries

[quick wing]

just picked up hades and so far having a blast

[hybrid parcel]

would you say you're having a... hell of a good time?

[quick wing]

I see what you did there -_-

[ebon sleet]

I posted that video over in #h1-builds-and-combat

[smoky halo]

what does fateful pursuasion even do?

[elfin granite]

I just bought hades on the epic store using a $10 coupon I had from the previous sale and noticed that they are also giving a $10 coupon for downloading rocket league. Would those stack and if so, would I get my refund in time before the sale ends?

[cyan python]

they shouldnt stack

[elfin granite]

honestly have nothing else I want to buy on the store nor in the future

[ocean kayak]

I'm so exhausted

There I was. Elysium, flurry fire and exploding rifle...sea storm AND second wave. My luck was just starting to look up....

i'm trying my first 32 heat run. How do people just play like this.

[hybrid parcel]

oh I don't think I could ever

I think it says something that the achievement procs at 16 heat

[golden adder]

are you with using tight deadline?

[hybrid parcel]

it's like SGG saying "it's ok buddy you don't have to hurt yourself on this"

[golden adder]

I tried 32 heat with TD, died to it, then put up 32 heat WITHOUT TD and won

[ocean kayak]

i wouldn't do it if it weren't for that damn skelly statue

[golden adder]

it's much better because I'm able to go at my own pace

[ocean kayak]

yeah tight deadline just doesn't work on any heat above 20-25

[ebon sleet]

Is 32 heat the max?

[cyan python]

what heat is the first ||skelly statue|| at

[ocean kayak]

8, then 16, then 32

[cyan python]

oh I just had to walk over to it lmao

Im at heat 12 w sword

was wondering why it didnt unlock yet

[gusty slate]

You can't unveil that beautiful sight

You must restrain yourself

[cyan python]

its beautiful

[gusty slate]

Brings me to tears I daresay

[ocean kayak]

while i'm playing this

supergiant. your new minibosses.
not a fan.

[smoky halo]

which one?

[cyan python]

new minibosses?

[junior galleon]

@ebon sleet no but it is || the requiremt for the last skelly reward||

[ocean kayak]

the Sneak and the Big Crystal

[manic bobcat]

sneak is annoying. doomstone is walk over tbh

[elfin granite]

what is the benefit of using hell mode to start?

should I just do that?

[manic bobcat]

what is the benefit of using hell mode to start?
not a lot, if any

should I just do that?
if you are starting out, I would recommend starting with normal mode

[golden adder]

hell mode just locks some heat in every run, other than that I don't even remember any difference

[brisk trail]

Is there a keepsake that make you choose hammer at the very start?

[ocean kayak]

I wish.

Always wanted a Hephaestus boon.

But no, that happens randomly.

[golden adder]

I think that at some point (elysium?) the game basically forces a hammer on you if you didn't get any yet

[cyan python]

Hephaestus wouldve been a cool addition

[golden adder]

other than that, fated authority is good to get hammers early

[ocean kayak]

anyone know if they un-nerfed twin shot yet

[cyan python]

I spent some time thinking of what fire effects would do

[golden adder]

range was still super short last time I got it

[manic bobcat]

Twin Shot was never nerf I don't think?

[golden adder]

but normally it's okay unless on 4th aspect

[manic bobcat]

It has been like that since forever?

[golden adder]

yeah it's a decent tradeoff

[ocean kayak]

Oh they definitely nerfed it.

I'm used to the short range but they slowed it down a lot

[queen frigate]

Finished the story today and now starting my 100% hell mode save. Wish me luck

[golden adder]

hell mode doesn't change things much

[gusty slate]

Can get wombo combo'd in hellmode a lot easier

[quiet geyser]

first victory

[queen frigate]

Hell mode adds an icon to prove I never used god mode, so it’s worth it to me!

[gusty slate]

Congrats!

[golden adder]

oh yeah there's the combo immunity

[hollow seal]

Yo, can i proc doom with special, then with attack and make it trigger twice??

[quiet geyser]

ty! it was super fun

[gusty slate]

Doom is weird and stacks don't do too much

[hollow seal]

or is it a shared cdr

[golden adder]

I tried 20 escapes then switched over to hell mode so long ago that I don't remember what it does anymore lol

[gusty slate]

Need boons to make stack useable

[hollow seal]

ah

[gusty slate]

If I recall

[queen frigate]

@golden adder yeah I have 28 attempts on my normal mode save with 16 clears. Just want to feel it fresh again.

[golden adder]

nice

[gusty slate]

shudders at 209 run save

[queen frigate]

Doubt I’ll get a full clear before 50 attempts now

[golden adder]

nah, you'll be surprised on how good you'll be I think
the experience will carry over!

[queen frigate]

Thanks for the vote of confidence lol

[golden adder]

post a pic of how far you got on the first run later, I remember actually deleting saves to try to beat meg when I first started playing

[manic bobcat]

I made it in 3 clears on Hell Mode

[queen frigate]

I’ll update you

[manic bobcat]

it took me 40 on my first try on Normal

you will be surprised how much you improve

[supple field]

i found our shade friend at elysium bosses 😄

[ocean kayak]

Alright you sons of witches
I'm coming for you with the Hera Aspect
stop me now, I dare you

[queen frigate]

@golden adder died to Meg pretty fast. Hard to remember I only have one dash.

[ocean kayak]

i really wanna know what's up with benefits package offering 3 heat per level
why do you want me to slog through that so fast

tight deadline only offers 1

[gusty slate]

because benefits gets pretty annoying

[ocean kayak]

so i saw.

[gusty slate]

Elysium is terrifying

[golden adder]

oof, yeah, I suffered a lot when trying to || do the bounty that requires you to use the mirror boon that isn't +1 dash ||

[ocean kayak]

i literally can't make it to 32 heat without benefits package
or otherwise making the game an absolute nightmare

[gusty slate]

I exclusively played green dash until heat... 15ish?

[golden adder]

you stay with +1 dash for so long that you think you'll always have it

[ocean kayak]

who designed this skelly statue and how can i hurt them back

[queen frigate]

Exactly

[golden adder]

😮

[gusty slate]

What

but you must unlock that beautiful hunk

(I haven't done it either xD)

[ocean kayak]

only if supergiant promises to pay the hospital bills for my aneurysm

[gusty slate]

I burnt out farming titan blood

Still haven't had the heart to do 32

[worthy lantern]

Luckily I was in early access and didn't use any titan blood at all the entire time. Now I come back for release and have a ton waiting for me. <3

[green acorn]

Hell mode adds an icon to prove I never used god mode, so it’s worth it to me!
@queen frigate This is the one that I'm after... but tbh every battle keeps me on my toes too many times

[gusty slate]

Godmode doesn't matter

You do what's most fun

[queen frigate]

It’s super fun starting over with the pact immediately

Having a great time getting slaughtered without mirror upgrades

[worthy lantern]

@queen frigate I'm actually tempted to refund it all and just dump all of it into the legendary/duo perk.

I just wanna see what happens, lol.

[smoky halo]

hey uh whats the button for the key rerolls

[gusty slate]

Should say when the applicable one pops up... I actually forget lol

is it ... g?

Well, can probably check keybinds, not sure what it is on either platform

[worthy lantern]

@smoky halo should just be the standard confirm button right? But you can double check what it is for sure in the keybindings.

[smoky halo]

i mean it doesnt pop up for me

[supple field]

its "g" by default

[gusty slate]

Proxy pls have mercy

[fallen violet]

welp

gg

[manic bobcat]

did you say a bad word?

[fallen violet]

Time to face tank the whole game

Epic after party

[smoky halo]

also the uh thing that kills you if you take too long, is that active during the redacted fight?

[fallen violet]

free 45% Hp every room

also the uh thing that kills you if you take too long, is that active during the redacted fight?
@smoky halo Yes

Also you dont get a time increase when you arrive at redacted

[gusty slate]

Quite the after party

[fallen violet]

So you need good time when you make it

[dusky wagon]

The 3rd boss is super poorly designed. Why don't play devs into the strength of a 2vs1 fight instead of just having STUFF (OMG WHAT BAD CENSOR IS THIS?!?!?!) flying at you from offscreen? It's 100% impossible to dodge everything. YOU WILL GET HIT. Super dumb design.

[fallen violet]

Not true

@dusky wagon Not true whatsoever

[manic bobcat]

[fallen violet]

Thats you being bad at the time

Theseus is managable

He has a reticle

that goes on you

when he is throwing

[reef pasture]

third boss with EM, pretty hard to dodge everything

[fallen violet]

just pay attention to your character

[reef pasture]

third boss without EM, very do-able

[fallen violet]

EM 3rd boss is getting destroyed by the minotaur

[dusky wagon]

More like second phase of the other dude that shock waves all over the place hitting you during your dash

[manic bobcat]

that sounds like a kneejerk reaction to losing too many time at third boss

[gusty slate]

Yeah 3rd boss is quite the wall

[fallen violet]

More like second phase of the user dude that shock waves all over the place hitting you during your dash
@dusky wagon Dash has I-frames, just dash in and out

[gusty slate]

Takes some time to get used to

[manic bobcat]

you get used to it eventually

[fallen violet]

This may be surprising

[reef pasture]

if you have a +1 dash you can double dash left/right back and forth and take 0 damage

[fallen violet]

but hades can actually be hard

WOW

Who would've thought

[gusty slate]

game is mean

[fallen violet]

Like

20 heat the game sucks

tbh

[dusky wagon]

what is EM?

[gusty slate]

Just gotta keep at it, sounds like you got fairly far in the fight though

Hades is the game

Hades is hard

What are you talking about

is final boss

[manic bobcat]

what is EM?
Spoiler: ||post game difficulty ramp, bosses are harder||

[fallen violet]

Emergency measures

[manic bobcat]

I think pokeuser is being tongue in check

[fallen violet]

Makes bosses way more difficult

Including 3rd floor boss

[golden adder]

ahhhhhhh

[fallen violet]

So if you suck now

BE PREPARED

[gusty slate]

00f what do I do if I just am a constant state of suck

[golden adder]

||I even deleted my comments so my spoiler calling isn't an spoiler||

lul

[fallen violet]

I floor the 3rd floor boss

turned on EM

Lost instantly

no chance

Actually hard

took me like

4

tries to beat it

[dusky wagon]

Even when I beat him eventually, it's 100% poor design.

[fallen violet]

No

Its not

[dusky wagon]

Yes, it is.

[fallen violet]

The fight is balanced

and Here's why

[gusty slate]

Once you get the behaviours down it's not terrible

[golden adder]

I think I'm gonna go on that it's your opinion on this one

[fallen violet]

Each boss is good at one thing

Just kill who you're struggling with

[gusty slate]

Sure Asterius can turn on a dime like it's Tokyo Drift, but this is fineee

[fallen violet]

Minotaur is usually the problem

So focus him dwon

down

then its a 1v1

And theseus is a joke

honestly

[analog elbow]

Why do you think it's poorly designed Zukuu?

[fallen violet]

He can't beat it

[dusky wagon]

It's limited by stuff that is outside your control... LIKE THE CAMREA or NARROW POV. And you can have RNG patterns that are impossible to dodge. It's a mediocre designed 2vs1 fight "look one is back and shoots off screen". That's not only boring and uninspired, but also text book awful design in action games.

[analog elbow]

Could you please write full sentences TheHiss lol

[golden adder]

I just ignore theseus and dodge behind a pillar when I hear the beep

[analog elbow]

Well, not being able to get past bosses initially is a thing in most video games

[smoky halo]

yooooooo i just got chaoses legerndary effect

[sterile frigate]

what do i have to do to unlock thanatos?

[analog elbow]

Play the game

[supple field]

^^focus minotaur first and when you see his reticle just dash/dodge/hide behind a pillar

[manic bobcat]

what do i have to do to unlock thanatos?
take damage

[gusty slate]

I think there's an intial pre-req dialogue from someone too

I recall a charcter mentioning than

[golden adder]

With athena's dash you can even get used to reflecting the spears back into him (and it does a ton of damage)

[fallen violet]

The offscreen stuff is manageable if you pay attention, there is a reticle that shows up on your character if Theseus is targeting you, just dodge at the correct time

[dusky wagon]

The fight itself is easy. It's stray undodgable hits that's awful. I don't understand how that fight passed playtesting withouth someone telling them how awful it is.

[manic bobcat]

we had EA

[gusty slate]

At least that's the conclusion I put together after talking with some new players, 40 runs no than xD

[golden adder]

mate, everyone is telling you, it's not undodgeable lol

[manic bobcat]

people who played EA thought the fight was fine

[golden adder]

you can iframe it or dodge behind a pillar

[fallen violet]

Undodgeable hits?

I literally run sword and not get hit right in his face

Dodge at the correct time

[manic bobcat]

idk what else to tell you except that you can ask for advice on #h1-builds-and-combat

[gusty slate]

I'm bad so I facetank things and flail around it works somehow

[dusky wagon]

The issue is dodging the arrow and then getting hit BY AOE SHOCKWAVES NEXT TO PILLAR AND WALL.