did anyone notice this https://i.imgur.com/1Xit95W.png
who are these 4 ppl
#h1-discussion
nimble ocean
i want to look them in the eyes
fading gazelle
"Hades - v1.0 Launch Trailer"
Youtube: is this Transistor?
patent topaz
They were upset because they thought it was actually an hades anime
nimble ocean
oh.. that makes sense
patent topaz
It's transitioning from EA to v.01 👀
fading gazelle
ba dum tss
native coral
I dont get who watches the trailer hour after the release and dislike it
past mirage
Who knows. Could be a case of bad hand-mouse coordination. Can't think of any other reason.
patent topaz
One thing i love about this is that SG knows we're all thirsty for Zag so there's that shot when he comes out of the pool and slicks back his hair
We saw you
and thanks
cunning oriole
im so ready to buy hades a 3erd time
past mirage
I dig the new texture on Lernie's neck(s).
Looks like we can hope for a few optical improvements across the board.
native coral
One thing i love about this is that SG knows we're all thirsty for Zag so there's that shot when he comes out of the pool and slicks back his hair
@patent topaz Something something the male fantasy
patent topaz
@patent topaz Something something the male fantasy
@native coral This is the ideal male body. You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like
past mirage
Zeus is also totally ripped in the trailer.
native coral
all of the gods are
past mirage
Some more than others
Except maybe Hypnos and Charon.
But who knows what's truly under those robes.
nova hedge
With the switch announcement, any updates on Mac support?
nimble ocean
with all the things going on i doubt the situation with games on apple platforms will be great
terse geyser
Charon is the most ripped of them all
nimble ocean
even Skelly's ribcage looks like he can withstand whole house collapsing
past mirage
Charon's muscle/fat ratio is approaching infinity, most like.
nimble ocean
what he looked liked when he was alive?
untold wigeon
Hey I don’t know where else to ask but is Hades coming to PS4
manic bobcat
We don't know yet, unfortunately. The online confirmed platforms are PC (Steam and Epic Store), and Swtich
hoary quiver
That new trailer made me realize how badly I wish this game had a cartoon/anime adaptation 😢
tepid plover
I've watched the trailer multiple times now, and I still dont understand why would they not include a silent moment without music of just zagreus petting cerb
hoary quiver
i could imagine that scene placed at the end like a credits scene so the petting can be longer
dire ravine
Cross save confirmed made me purchase this game for the third time. I cannot believe the amount of support SG has given their EA community, love you guys. I'm still running my very first save file from early early builds and it's amazing that I still have not been able to get to everything there is in this game
hoary quiver
good good, throw more money at them! we need this game to last long
terse geyser
this is so good https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/674975378397200416/745349498980663418/Hades.png
narrow hemlock
browsing through hades and supergiant mentions and seeing people mad about no ps4, cant win em all i guess. its not like supergiant said no to other consoles. its not like there arent going to be additional ports later
vast junco
same as some others have said, the cross-save capability for the switch release is really about to make me triple dip and still have no regrets about doing so
also shiny new lernie necks
narrow hemlock
i will cross my fingers for a limited run physical copy 😔
rigid ingot
Yeah, definitely came here to say cross-saves is BRILLIANT and I will definitely be dropping the cash to buy it again
twilit sigil
oh gosh how could I have overlooked that
rigid ingot
It was good, it just could have been better
tepid plover
Not only did we get to pet just one head, they didn't even include it in the trailer
Absolutely unplayable
narrow hemlock
actually i find the focus on the hydra fight pretty interesting, why that specifically 🤔
tepid plover
Cause lernie is the second closest thing we got to a pet
Unless you count Theseus 🤣
narrow hemlock
i dont
terse geyser
Hydra is the only boss without voicelines
twilit sigil
That is true
terse geyser
bosses are cool, and voicelines are hard
twilit sigil
it's also a visually cool thing to animate
terse geyser
1.0 has FISTS, the ending, some more additional content
urban heron
nah, 1.0 is the release patch, it's not out yet.
sand stump
Oh i see
urban heron
also, hell of a Trailer, I just wish it came with a release date 🙂
urban heron
there will also be new keepsakes and hopefully someone to play with that board game^^
sand stump
I want to see zag lift the weight too haha
fading gazelle
also, hell of a Trailer, I just wish it came with a release date 🙂
@urban heron Its sometime this fall
lucid cargo
All I know is my body is ready.
sand stump
When is “fall” in America standard?
narrow hemlock
after september
urban heron
yeah I meant like a hard this is the day kind of date, but fall is better than winter (so long as nobody is crunched to death of course in wich case delay all you want.)
narrow hemlock
october gang lets go
carmine pecan
the video is ust to hype up 1.0 or is 1.0 released?
narrow hemlock
1.0 will be released this fall
past mirage
The former. It's an announcement trailer for a later release.
carmine pecan
oh alright
brisk trail
I'm just so damn excited for 1.0
I'm kind of disgusted with the fact I've already dropped 120hrs
vast junco
late to bringing this up again but part of hydra being so prominent in the recent trailer honestly, to me, feels like it's because lernie has had so little of the spotlight in general
and also... brand new neck visuals
what does it mean
carmine pecan
120 hours is nothing though
fading gazelle
late to bringing this up again but part of hydra being so prominent in the recent trailer honestly, to me, feels like it's because lernie has had so little of the spotlight in general
Lernie has had quite the spotlight imo
tepid plover
The 4th aspect of the fist, reskins zagreus into demeter, and get to see grandma unleash a cold flurry of blows
Wasn't lernie the big bad boss for a long time
fading gazelle
Not only is he the only boss that gets a rename after consecutive attempts, he also was the game's final boss for a while
narrow hemlock
lernie was the "final boss" at one point when elysium didnt exist yet
tepid plover
True ending right here boys, hypnos is mad that he won't get to see zagreus respawn anymore, so he wants to vanquish us as well
carmine pecan
this game was the only roguelike /rogue lite or wtvr the genre that i didnt refund lolll
fading gazelle
He has more variety than the the sisters and heroes gameplay-wise (If you don't count the different Theseus calls)
tepid plover
Try dreamscaper, it just released on early access
fading gazelle
Ooh yeah, It looks like a cool mashup of risk of rain 2's visuals and Hades gameplay
warm elbow
Anyone knows if version 1.0 will add achievements to the steam version?
urban heron
it will
fading gazelle
Dreamscaper is super versatile
urban heron
its on the features list I think, definitely found it somewhere
fading gazelle
It has a lot of elements
warm elbow
I see, i will look for the list
rough token
@warm elbow should say so in #hades-faq
warm elbow
I just saw it, thanks
fading gazelle
Does Hades have Achievements?
Not yet, though we expect to add Steam Achievements (as well as Trading Cards, etc.) by the time Early Access is complete.
@warm elbow
rough token
o7
warm elbow
Great
fading gazelle
@narrow hemlock I pray for your feedback
narrow hemlock
oh i know its not happening lmao
but the trailer went over really well, not just here
just like a short.. slice of life sort of thing but its the course of a run over several episodes, a fun way of showcasing the game's charm
too ambitious though, perhaps 😂
and such a venture isnt cheap either
tepid plover
The game is also quite heavy on spoilers, so making a trailer is hard
summer loom
was controller ever given the option to have movement and aim split between two joysticks?
tepid plover
Hydra is more spilers than cerb, why did cerb only get like 0.2 secs of screentime
fading gazelle
I mean apart from petting cerb, you have him in ||Styx|| which is more spoilery than Lernie
hollow hazel
It'll be on switch? Hell yeah. I can't wait to get it on switch too
tepid plover
I mean apart from petting cerb, you have him in ||Styx|| which is more spoilery than Lernie
Well but you dont need to show that on the trailer when he's right in darn house
And you can pet hik
Quality of life change, let me pet cerb in ||styx||
urban heron
@narrow hemlock I don't necessariely disagree with your last point on the feedback thing, but I want supergiant to give me new games not stick with the guns they have. I love Hades but so far everytime they released a new game, that new game became my favorite until they released the next one. Sure they might misstep in the future, but why would we want one of the few studios out there that is constantly pushing the boat out and trying new things, creating new IPs and taking risks to become like everyone else and just do more of the same.
I love that they know what I want next better than me.
so while an animated series would be cool, it takes a lot of time and money to make and those things could be spent making my new favorite game.
fading gazelle
I mean, speak for yourself, I still think Pyre is better than Hades and would love to see more of them.
narrow hemlock
@urban heron i am simply a victim of hyperfixation, friend
manic bobcat
was controller ever given the option to have movement and aim split between two joysticks?
@summer loom no
frail geode
Hades confirming support for PC and switch cross saving is a seriously beautiful thing, big props to Supergiant 😍
frail geode
Yeah that’s huge, little details like this that just confirm they appreciate the community
obtuse crater
the 1.0 trailer got me a bit dissapointed, but for a stupid reason 
. because i saw the notification on my phone and when i see a video called "hades 1.0 launch trailer" i expected one of two things: to be the day or close to launch date or at least get a date because we all know that was going to came later this year. But was a cool animation though, really loved that'st on switch and still excited for 1.0 
when i saw that notification i smashed that button so hard hahaah
urban heron
I feel you, I think most of us do. A date would have been great. I would prefer them not overworking staff though so I'm glad they are waiting for the right time. Crunch is a stain on this industry and if this is the SG way of preventing it, I am all for it.
daring sequoia
Do we submit questions for Friday's Q&A live during the event, or is there a place to do that ahead of time?
manic bobcat
You submit them "live"
The QA channel will be opened for 10 mins before the devs start answering them.
still shard
That's... a sobering way of putting it and definitely helps temper my excitement
But now I want a Hades animated series
rough token
Wait, where was the Q&A announced? I'm feeling so out of the loop lmao
narrow hemlock
dont think it was
rough token
Okay so @daring sequoia what Q&A are you talking about?
daring sequoia
I was told about it by a friend of mine in a separate Discord a few minutes ago.
Idk where the official announcement is or anything.
rough token
I'm gonna guess there isn't, in that case, since they'd post it in #announcements
chilly stump
Hey folks! We announced the dev Q&A in the Blast! we sent out in tandem with the Nintendo Switch announcement today. We'll have an announcement for it in here later this week, we try to space out when we @ folks in the server as much as possible.
viral rover
It was in the email, this Friday I think?
rough token
Oh!
Ah-ha!
I didn't get a notification for that email for some reason, that would be why lol
Thanks Caitlin!!
fading gazelle
Wait so Q&A sometime later?
narrow hemlock
cait rescues us from confusion
rough token
@fading gazelle Friday 10 am PST
manic bobcat
Launch soon? Hype?
fading gazelle
Yusssss
tepid plover
🥳 
frail geode
This’ll sound silly and I generally don’t go looking for more emails but I’d like to get on this newsletter for hades updates, where is the signup?
rough token
@frail geode It's on their website, look for "Join"
agile ingot
Has it been said whether Hades will run at 60fps on Switch or not?
manic bobcat
Not that I know of. Although 60fps seems reasonable, I would honestly expect that.
agile ingot
I hope so. I'd love this game on Switch but I'm going to stick to steam if the port isn't 60
manic bobcat
Fingers crossed for you.
wheat canopy
Does anyone know if there will be a beta for the 1.0?
tepid plover
I dont think there was one for blood price update was there
rough token
Probably not for 1.0
narrow hemlock
blood price had a beta specifically because of the performance changes made for the game
tepid plover
Ah
wheat canopy
Thanks guys. Holding out for 1.0 is painful.
obtuse crater
Hey folks! We announced the dev Q&A in the Blast! we sent out in tandem with the Nintendo Switch announcement today. We'll have an announcement for it in here later this week, we try to space out when we @ folks in the server as much as possible.
@chilly stump Thanks Caitlin
grave lake
any1 knows if the game goes out of early access and the achievements are added, do i have to replay the game from the start or do i get them automatically when i load my old save?
tepid plover
Thanks guys. Holding out for 1.0 is painful.
This
Achievements should be retroactive imo
narrow hemlock
time goes by faster when you're doing other things 🤗
tepid plover
Like trying to escape the underworld
wheat canopy
I haven't played in many, many updates. It's a credit to the story and dialogue they add that I want to do a fresh run and get the whole picture.
BUT ITS SO HARD
wheat canopy
That's the plan. I just want to experience it as a completed story.
My understanding is there will be "plot" added beyond the actual ending, as there has been in most updates.
tepid plover
Well they did say the real ending is coming with 1.0
rough token
@grave lake we don't know about achievements yet, other than that they will exist
Also, be careful about ending content in this channel please
wheat canopy
Yep. I don't even know it, so I can't spoil it
rough token
Perfect xD
wheat canopy
But if someone were to spoil the release date I doubt chat would mind.
wheat canopy
I don't know what comes after boss 3? I think. So I could definitely have some content spoiled.
narrow hemlock
i dont think the team is hiding the release date lmao they likely genuinely havent settled for one yet and just dont wanna get everyones hopes up preemptively
manic bobcat
The game ends with me defeating Voldemort. This is a subtle hint to me misclicking my Harry Potter Lego game instead of Hades on Steam library.
wheat canopy
I really, truly hated the ending to HP.
narrow hemlock
im sorry for your loss fox
grave lake
in 1 hand i'd like to start the game again like dionysus said but in the other i look at my time played on that save 😦 was just wondering so i know if i should play or w8 until the game comes out
wheat canopy
Definitely need a fresh start! think of the possible dialogue lines you could miss.
tepid plover
They really missed the opportunity in the trailer to have ares call instead of zeus and just have zag become a beyblade
narrow hemlock
the game in its current state is mostly complete as it is. launch will have additional character content, and of course the actual ending. so its a personal choice if you want to wait or not
plush cave
zag beyblade
wheat canopy
Are there any NPC designs that haven't been fleshed out yet? There were a lot of robed figures back in the day.
narrow hemlock
nope
grave lake
@tepid plover and split the sea like Moses the most powerful bayblade user
white mountain
I think everyone's got designs now?
narrow hemlock
we have one more character left to be introduced, and it should be obvious if you follow the story
manic bobcat
They really missed the opportunity in the trailer to have ares call instead of zeus and just have zag become a beyblade
Why would they advertise a DPS loss on the trailer?
white mountain
Oh right
tepid plover
Daedalus isn't 
narrow hemlock
besides that all the temporary portraits have been updated to final ones
white mountain
Crossover
manic bobcat
Zag gets out of the Underworld and sees... the Calamity
white mountain
All supergiant games are in the same universe
manic bobcat
Proper stories start at the beginning... Not so simple with this one.
white mountain
It's such a dumb and overdone theory and can be applied to anything but
I kinda wanna see how it would work out?
How do you think the timeline goes?
I think it goes like
plush cave
Someone from Caelondia traveled so far he found the transistor moments after the end of the game came back and caused the calamity 
white mountain
Transistor then Pyre then Bastion then Hades
plush cave
We all know we need a weapon crossover aspect the transistor on zag sword
white mountain
Oooo that'd be dope actually
hollow hazel
Hades is such a good game, I played a little bit of Bastion but it didn't really keep me intrigued, it wasn't the most interesting, I haven't tried any of the others, but Hades, Hades was perfect for me it's now in my top 5 most played games, and I started playing it like, a year ago. where other games, such as Terraria and Starbound, both of which I no longer really play, I've played for multiple years. And one of the others is an Idle game that I haven't played in a while.
DLC possibly?
That would be a cool DLC idea
hollow hazel
The music is amazing.
I don't know what other content they could add to the DLC with the SuperGiant Weapon aspects, but that would be a cool part of a DLC
wheat canopy
I'd like to play as other characters, perhaps
With drastically different playstyles
uncut jacinth
That'd increase its replayability even more
Slay the Spire has 4 characters and I've basically sacrificed my life to it
wheat canopy
I just picked up Rogue Legacy 2, but it is still very EA for that game.
Just sort of drifting aimlessly until Hades 1.0
Undermine is a nice little diversion if you like Binding of Isaac
hollow hazel
I feel like the weapons themselves change playstyle pretty drastically though. Perhaps there could be something where Zag looks through some of those weapons on like, a weapon rack he can get in his room, and on touching them enters a sort memory of the person who previously used that weapon and you play as that character through the memory getting through some unique areas?
uncut jacinth
I'm gonna take days off of work for Hades. Maybe quit my job.
hollow hazel
Maybe not drastically, but like, I don't know if it would be unique enough to stand out with a DLC
wheat canopy
I'd like to see alternate play modes, more of a traditional rogue-like element built into it. Wouldn't need to be DLC, though
Like you'd get the upgrades you earn at the end of each run THROUGHOUT the run, so it could be completed in 1 go if you're lucky and good.
hollow hazel
True, but that seems like a weird thing to include in the game vanilla though, as it seems very different and contrasting to the story and characters, like, it would feel out of place? At least for me.
I might be alone in that thought though
terse geyser
no
wheat canopy
Randomizer, rogue-like modes, boss rush modes all make for good post-launch content. Daily runs with fixed spawns and an online leaderboard, etc.
narrow hemlock
hades isnt really trying to deliver a typical roguelike experience in the vein of other games that have those features tho
wheat canopy
True. But I feel like they may have a complete package at 1.0
In terms of story-based content.
At least I would hope that is the goal of hitting 1.0.
hollow hazel
not that I'm aware of, but there's not a huge variety of bosses, that would be interesting though, perhaps not boss rush, but the unique champions of enemies, combinations of them, perhaps new variants exclusive to this hypothetical mode. But you are right that this isn't a typical roguelike experience, like this game is heavily focused on characters, personalities, learning more about them, and a lot of things you don't typically see in roguelikes. And I wouldn't want them to lose that just to add some other little things that might take away from the rest of the story or seem out of place of the story. I think it's something that could be implemented cool, but I definitely would want it implemented well into the game.
wheat canopy
They could work it into the story for sure. Like how Hollow Knight did with Gods and Glory.
hollow hazel
I really need to beat that game, but I keep putting it off to explore the world more and get all the upgrades lol.
wheat canopy
I loved every minute of it. Waiting on Silksong like i'm waiting on Hades 1.0
hollow hazel
I didn't realize there was work still being put in to it. I thought it was fully done.
wheat canopy
Silksong was originally billed to be a Kickstarter promised DLC campaign. However, it got so large they're releasing it as a standalone sequel of sorts.
hollow hazel
Oh, that's pretty cool.
tepid plover
If you like isaac I'd suggest neon abyss more than undermine
wheat canopy
I didn't like the demo. Been considering giving it another try. Heard it needs a balance pass or two
tepid plover
They already removed the annoying pets, good state right now, just kinda grindy, which is getting fixed next patch
wheat canopy
Yep. I saw they were fixing the end game grind, which seemed to be the other main complaint. I heard some of the enemies and rooms basically guaranteed a hit. I think they're changing that as well.
No game like Hades etc should make damage nearly unavoidable as you enter.
plush cave
hope there is a beta like with the bloodprice update
wheat canopy
Same @plush cave I'll deal with bugs to get my hands on that sweet, sweet 1.0 earlier.
rough token
Doubtful, actually
tepid plover
There are the regular sacrifice rooms which cost health to enter, from isaac
rough token
They only did that because they were doing engine changes
wheat canopy
@tepid plover I think this was the complaint I read "Unavoidable damage. Whenever you enter a room, you should be able to atleast somewhat establish yourself into the environment and see what you're up against so you have a chance to dodge anything that gets thrown at you. In here however, mobs can sometimes spawn right up in your face, and even bosses can just hit you right as it spawns in (like the god of racing if your down a couple of floors already)."
Granted, everyone will judge balance differently.
Looks like the Dev already addressed the issue, "Enemies now have a slight delay and teleportation symbol when they first enter the room or if they can teleport so there is more time to react to them and their projectiles. Also the metal enemies can be damaged at a reduced rate during their metal phase rather than being invulnerable."
Like I said, one more patch and i'll likely jump in
unkempt sleet
I think you should move this to #video-games
uneven onyx
when the game will launch V1 ?
tepid plover
That's like asking for fixed spawns which breaks the point of the game
Yeah sorry thunder
unkempt sleet
@uneven onyx Hades will launch this fall. No hard dates yet.
uneven onyx
oh alright thx 😄
plush cave
i would like to see hades boons but that would break the story
uneven onyx
i hope the ending is an additional final boss or anything not only plot : (
lean cloud
so will we get any more keepsakes? the mostly empty 3rd row is triggering my OCD.
wheat canopy
Autumn 2020 in Northern Hemisphere will begin on Tuesday, September 22 and ends on Monday, December 21
Ouch
bUt i wAnT it NOOOW
sullen nebula
i googled autumn start date and it's september 1st
hollow hazel
Oh, it appears that Hades had a bug, crashed and then the bug report window popped up.... so I thought I had accidentally pressed the key on the controller or something.... Nope, turns out it had actually crashed and I just didn't know and thought it was my fault lol.
remote lily
I think they will exit early access with switch and PC. And port it to more consoles later.
The engine they use support all consoles, as well as Android and iOS. But take it with salt of grain.
tepid plover
Lol if I can play hades in my phone I can die in peace
remote lily
For now we don't even have exact date, so again, take it with salt of grain.
terse geyser
take it with a dose of salts
tepid plover
Love the bouldy pic
remote lily
I know, made it like half year ago, still love it 😍
wheat canopy
If I had to guess, late September. Hope i'm being too conservative, though.
narrow hemlock
I feel october in my bones
wheat canopy
I hate your bones.
narrow hemlock
😊
tepid plover
I break bones daily, I hate asphodel
If the release is in October can we pls get like a mini Halloween event
Decorated house
Or let us buy the decorations with gems
nova hedge
hey friends alternate question
since i'm on mac and don't really want to wait for a switch port
are there any cloud streaming services that supports hades?
(I know GEFORCE does not)
wheat canopy
Hmm
Stadia honestly would be your best bet. I imagine they'll toss some money at SuperGiant to port it at some point.
nova hedge
but nothing that supports it currently, right?
wheat canopy
I'm not seeing anything, unfortunately.
sage tree
So the Artemis Zeus Duo doesn't strike when you have bloodstones on yourself or in enemies right?
sage tree
Hmm, seems like if Zeus can shoot down lightning every time you dash he should really do better than that when Arty is helping
rough token
Yeah, it's a rather... controversial Duo xD
sage tree
lmao
I cant be the first one to bring this up then, whats the point of not trying it out a patch on a greatly reduced dmg output or more moderate timer?
rough token
I don't quite follow?
tepid plover
Wait, is it possible to get that boon, if I have the regenerating mirror perk
rough token
Nope
sage tree
like its been in there so long at first I assumed it was getting a complete rework, to avoid the clear fix to the boon being useless; making it fully passive dmg thats always ticking wherever the stones are, and I can see why they wouldnt wanna put that in the game? but at this point why not, it would hardly make it better than most other duos\
hollow hazel
Man, I feel like I'm struggling more than I used to playing this game. Using a death defy or two before reaching Elysium instead of losing one or two in Elysium. I guess the rust must have really built up on me in the two months I haven't had a chance to play due to work lol.
rough token
Maybe bring that up in #hades-feedback , Lyt1ca? It's been brought up before, but not recently, so it's worth revisiting
sage tree
ive personally been blaming missing all my dashes on the when they changed the %s on the speed pact but rust is real with me too @hollow hazel
carmine ravine
hmm launch is coming soon, this is very poggers
sage tree
absolute champs out hype
tepid plover
I usually lose 2-3 defiances to the heroes
novel nova
very awesome trailer
hollow hazel
Yeah, the heroes are nightmares, especially with the pact. Theseus becomes an actual problem before the second half rather than a distraction. I personally always thought they needed some work, because the bull does all the work for the most part and after you get through him it's sort of just whittling the hero down. I think the pact is good as is, but the original fight I feel could use some changes
still shard
Wait wait wait. Did they retcon Zag having a black iris in his right eye?
No not iris
rough token
ah, are you seeing the alt. portrait for Zag?
smoky rune
Do you think 1.0 will have a new final boss?
manic bobcat
It was kinda confirmed that no new boss will appear. But a new variant is still up on the roadmap methink. Basically I expect EM4 but nothing else.
smoky rune
EM4?
manic bobcat
Spoiler for the abbreviation: ||Extreme Measure 4, the Heat Pact option that changes bossfights||
narrow hemlock
worth noting the in game road map still tells you what's to come
smoky rune
True true
flint fossil
How do I report a bug that I don't have an F10 report of, but have a video and images documenting it?
Some of us are seeing a really consistent and awful bug regarding Hera bow
Who do I ping to ask this 
rough token
@flint fossil you can still report with f10, but you can also email them directly
flint fossil
I mean I would have to start a new run to report it
And the vids I have are from a streamer
And stills
rough token
then probably email them, or you could f10 and include a link to the collection
flint fossil
oh god the bug is happening so often for the streamer
The casts are doing literally no damage
rough token
daaang, that's an oof
manic bobcat
Tell him/her to F10 themselves
rough token
seems like you can also drop it in #h1-tech-support
manic bobcat
If the stream is live
flint fossil
They're currently speedrunning so F10 is not really an option
But it seems extremely easy to reproduce
rough token
...would this not effectively end the speedrun?
manic bobcat
Honestly if you have vid, just slap it in feedback.
manic bobcat
I'm weighing between efficiency and technical rules.
flint fossil
It doesn't miss all the time
manic bobcat
Inb4 mods are upset at me. I'll just stop talking
flint fossil
Just a good enough amount that its kind of absurd
rough token
jeez, just watched the video
that's nuts
I saw similar a while back, but thought I was just imagining it because usually it would only be one or two less, not all of them missing
flint fossil
There seem to be three separate bugs with aphro cast on hera bow it looks like
One where if you hit them at an odd angle to a wall, it'll eject the casts and do no damage
One where you are too close to the enemy and it'll just deal the damage away from the enemy you hit
manic bobcat
Oh yeah aphro cast on Hera inconsistency is known for a while
flint fossil
And one more where it'll hit the other side of the enemy, but this makes it so that shieldbearers block almost every shot lol
Those are the three I've seen
rigid grotto
Hades: feedback%
hollow halo
ok i think ive finally cracked the code on the new fist aspect
aspect of joycon drift
where zag holds a joycon in each hand
and the special attribute is him continuously running in a random direction
tepid plover
Ok teleporting flame wheels are the new bane of my existence
tawny light
Teleporting Flame Wheels are the GAWD
that and the bomb surprise elysium warriors
those guys are barrels of laughs when you kill 3+ at the same time.
flint fossil
teleporting cloning flamewheels 
brisk trail
Teleporting Pullers.
chilly pawn
Is physical version launching too?
narrow hemlock
no physical
hollow hazel
Man, asphodel on its own isn't too bad, but like, a couple bad rooms or a bad chaos boon can really hurt you. Just Death Defied on like, the second room in Asphodel lol.
vagrant bloom
Hey, I’m in Press. Is there a way I can contact Supergiant / join the press list?
I’m only seeing a contact form, rather than a press email
tepid plover
god I feel like the 10% from dark foresight makes no difference
unlike its 40% counterpart
dark tusk
Welp, Hades coming to switch is good
lusty pilot
Is hades out yet?
terse geyser
tunnels don't, big rooms do
tepid plover
oh
terse geyser
the small chambers do count against items and rare crop though
tepid plover
so only the last big room
tawny light
I wish there was a pseudo endless mode in this gamw
Wizard of Legend has a few ways to do it.
Wish i could keep playing certain builds and stacking nonsense in them
Until the math gets so goofy it crashes my computer.
smoky rune
Haha. In the Nighty Night update, before they really cleaned up the code base, I would get slow downs in these really close calls. Was it a dodge or a hit? Interesting stuff
Wonder how moddable the game will be with 1.0
tepid plover
not moddable at all?
i don't think any of their games have steam workshop or any kind of mods
valid steeple
I haven't played since right after they added Demeter, what's new?
smoky rune
True true
valid steeple
Is it just the most recent update or was there one in between?
tepid plover
valid steeple
Thank you. I'm thinking about starting over since it's been so long...
tepid plover
cant never go wrong with that
narrow hazel
Pricks finger with Price of Midas
Zagreus: inhales BLOOD PRICE!
tepid plover
lmfao
valid steeple
Ugh, my dad swapped my Switch Pro cord with a short dinky one, so I can't hook my controller up to my PC... first world problems
I can't imagine playing this with a keyboard.
tepid plover
I can say the same about controller xD
dry sapphire
Controller is the superior choice
valid steeple
oh no I've started a war
tepid plover
no isn't is the preference choice for you
dry sapphire
Yeah, controller is what I prefer. I don't actually really care what others use
flint fossil
controller and mkb have their own strengths, but controller is best for general use
certain aspects and builds definitely do better with one or the other though
tepid plover
lmaooooo im crying
Thanatos appear
Zagreus: "Gah-Dong"
dry sapphire
Yeah I agree, it's just comes down to the person and build
flint fossil
some speedrunners are switching between both sets of controls during all weapon runs
dry sapphire
I would love to see someone play with like guitar hero controller or DK bongos
valid steeple
I would love to see someone play with like guitar hero controller or DK bongos
@dry sapphire bongos are optimal with shield
flint fossil
Lmao I don't think those are effective though 
dry sapphire
You're completely right I need to go find me a set now
dusky yew
hey has their been a new weapon added?
valid steeple
bow was my favorite when I played.
dry sapphire
I think the newest weapon is the gloves
valid steeple
I loved how bow dash attacks worked
dry sapphire
I got small brain and I prefer to keep moving so I struggle with the bow
sand stump
The charge up feel so slow
dry sapphire
But it hits hard
valid steeple
sword is also awesome because you can special and then dash and you'll special where you dashed to.
dry sapphire
Yeah that's sweet
valid steeple
railgun is only fun once you have the rocket launcher imo
but when you do... oh, it's heaven in hell
flint fossil
spread fire even after the massive nerf is still decent
also I can't stand bow as a speedrunner, its just so slow 
hollow hazel
Yeah, bow is definitely not ideal in terms of going through individual rooms but the damage you can do to single targets can get up there with the right build. It's just tedious in normal rooms
narrow hemlock
@tepid plover incorrect on modding btw #ask-supergiant message
and there is a modding community for hades
tepid plover
well ill be damned
narrow hemlock
it's doable, it's just not officially supported
hollow hazel
I actually enjoy bow quite a lot just because it feels like I can do good damage while maintaining a decent distance
potent root
the powershot is also pretty rewarding
manic bobcat
Guys you need to keep complaining so bow gets buffed 
potent root
well zag's aspect def needs a buff
tepid plover
zag aspect can crit on its own, that seems op to me
potent root
the burst on Hera's is OP if you spec into that with the night mirror
valid steeple
Ugh, I was dead set on playing this but I can't find my cord anywhere and I've searched the whole house! Oh well, hell will be waiting for me tomorrow.
buoyant merlin
So happy you can port PC data to switch. Very exciting
dark tusk
I am glad you can port PC data to switch... but I don't plan to. I plan to Start from scratch ~~ and use the easy mode for resistances~~
native sorrel
i wonder how thatll work
deft salmon
Hey folx, I'm fairly new to the game, I started playing a couple months ago and absolutely adore the game it scratches so many itches for me, I've only just joined the discord so apologies if this isn't a new question. Has there been any talk of accessibility options being implemented in V1.0? The pact of punishments design seems in line with the sort of options some hard/difficult games with great accessibility options are doing (just reversed). Is it something there's been much of a call for?
karmic venture
I am glad you can port PC data to switch... but I don't plan to. I plan to Start from scratch ~~ and use the easy mode for resistances~~
@dark tusk I know you
dark tusk
Where from?
viral rover
With the magic of multiple save slots, I plan to do BOTH!
Mostly because I want a 1.0 fresh start but can't bear to get rid of my original save
void vigil
@deft salmon currently there is "god mode" in the game which gives you more damage resistance every time you die (up to 80%, iirc) and can be toggled on and off
dark tusk
be me
gets up to 80% resist
Still somehow gets wiped by like 2 hits
deft salmon
@void vigil thanks, I maybe had forgotten about that 😆 , I know with other games people have benefited from more granularity than just damage resistance (I guess celeste is a great example in both execution and in explaining to the player the intent of accessibility options) and seeing as Hades already lets you toggle enemy speed, health, damage and numbers I wondered if something of that level of granularity was suggested/planned/discussed at all.
dark tusk
I would like that myself tbh, but trying to post that in feedback one time got me downvoted to hell
void vigil
you could always put it in #hades-feedback! read the pins in that channel for the rules and to find out how to post there
dark tusk
Plus from a story perspective, a pact pof punishment makes sense while a "Pact of Ease" would need to think up a way to make sense
which was where i struggeled
deft salmon
So I normally wouldn't bring this up in a game discord but Supergiant genuinely seem like a team who want to put in the work to make gaming a broader and more inclusive experience. I'll try to put something concise together to post in feedback although the pinned stuff in the channel mentioned your personal experience and accessibility options aren't something I need but something I definitely think is important.
tepid plover
Didn't know it was possible to get 3 Hermes boons in a run
dark tusk
Yeah, it's worth putting into a detailed suggestion in feedback. i will upvote it at leasdt probably
deft salmon
@dark tusk I don't think you frame it like you would the pact of punishment I think you put it in the options under accessibility maybe with a note from the devs about how the game is intended to be a struggle and not beaten easily but also that they wanted to make the experience they intended available to as many players as possible.
calm laurel
Hey Gebel
viral rover
Dionysus, I've made it up to 4 Hermes boons once (and only once)
It involved a lot of visiting shops and rerolls
pure elbow
Hey guys, what chat should i use when asking about the game price on different countries and hades been available on different nintendo eshops?
fading gazelle
It works to ask here since it falls under the rules of this channel
pure elbow
Thank you
fading gazelle
I assume you mean the price of the game on steam/epic games right?
pure elbow
No, i am talking about the switch version
I want to know if i'll be able to buy it in my country
Using my true account i mean
fading gazelle
Doesn't the switch have a region-free eshop?
pure elbow
Not with brazil
Most games "not nintendo games" don't show on the brazilian nintendo eshop, as an exemple i wasn't able to find any game from the indie direct.
fading gazelle
I wish I could be more useful in terms of how the eshop works in different regions, but I got mine imported from UK so I'm sorry that I don't know much 
pure elbow
The eshop on the switch itself shows nothing. You have to buy the game on the eshop site, and use a code to unlock the game
No problem, i undertand
fading gazelle
You could try dming a mod since they could be more helpful than me.
pure elbow
Hollow knight was the only game that i was able to buy using the brazilian eshop
I will wait a bit and see what happens
Thanks for the help anyway
fading gazelle
No problem!
light mural
I just want to say that Supergiant is the best! I was waiting for the switch release but I wasn't sure if I would buy it because I already have 100+ hours on PC and didn't want to start over. But you made my dream come true and I can transfer my progress! You guys are incredible! 🙂
night turret
Switch port is good news... but I will literally crumble into dust in tartarus without "Attack on mouse cursor" option.
light mural
I play with controller auto aim, I'm bad 🙂
supple narwhal
is the game out of EA yet?
kindred wagon
no
rough token
@wide stream It's very good!
night turret
The game is almost done with EA
sharp fossil
it was good 5 months ago also tbh
steep mulch
game is quite good, only missing the final touches on the story, a few keepsakes, and one weapon aspect
sharp fossil
wait are we getting more keepsakes?
rough token
Not certain about new Keepsakes, though I guess we'll get one more
Since there's one more character
steep mulch
Steam pages states that more Keepsakes are coming
sharp fossil
yeah one for sure
but there won't be more unless they add more new characters, which seems unlikely
steep mulch
only 1 more character is coming
rounding out the count at 30
though, Zegreus is counted in the 30.
it is not impossible that a character like Asterius gives you a Keepsake, given that he has some measure of respect for Zagreus.
steep mulch
persephone seems most likely
sharp fossil
its persephone for certain, surely
viral rover
Plot twist; it's Hecate
steep mulch
Isn't she a Titan?
night turret
It would be so strange not having her with entire story centered around her.
steep mulch
The only way it would not be her is if she is found dead
but hten, she would just return to the underworld?
viral rover
It's not quite clear with Hecate, but in the old myths she was Persephone's prime minister and confidant in the underworld
viral rover
Also aren't we now approaching spoiler territory?
steep mulch
@sharp fossil LOL
sharp fossil
ok that was a joke but now i kinda want it to be true
Also aren't we now approaching spoiler territory?
yeah, good point
steep mulch
i don;t htink so, we are just speculating
i mean, anyone who just started the game should not expect to go into this discord and get NO spoilers
of any kind
viral rover
There is a dedicated spoiler channel for that very reason, Fuzzician.
steep mulch
i don't know what the threshold for spoiler is
rough token
I'm going to say that Persephone is a reasonable guess, considering her prominence in most Greek Underworld Mythology, || regardless of her status in this game ||
kindred wagon
oooh crap sorry
i didnt think that be considered spoilers
but shes mentioned at around the start tho right?
rough token
Don't remember exactly
viral rover
Not until a few runs in.
kindred wagon
oh right
wide stream
i am trying to like this game but this game feels unfair sometimes
that asphodel zone with so many spreaders is so hard to beat and the platforms are so small
rough token
@wide stream It definitely takes a bit of practice to make it through Asphodel. It's not supposed to be easy :3
wide stream
yeah it feels it gotten a bit harder
i used to be able to reach to ... stage quite consistently
rough token
It's also been a few months since you played
wide stream
yeah could be am rusty
rough token
Also, || final boss name is a spoiler ||
rough token
Could say "final boss" or "redacted"
No worries!
wide stream
btw what are good weapons, i only use zagreus blade, chaos shield mainly
but idk have hard time with those
rough token
Chaos Shield is great, especially for learning enemy attack patterns
Make sure to level it up
dark tusk
I find it funny that the final bosses name is a spoiler tbh. Come on, the entire plot builds to it, we all know it's ||Dusa||
viral rover
I really did not expect the final boss to ||Hypnos|| especially when they ||got into the mech suit|| and ||Suplexed the moon into Zagreus||
rough token
That was my favorite part!!
viral rover
Really puts ||Jason and the Argonauts|| in a new light
Especially with ||Talos aspect for the fists and now I'm overthinking this joke too much somebody help me||
dark tusk
Then the reveal that ||the mech suit comes alive and was a titan and all the blood you gathered gets in it and fuels it|| was amazing
rough token
It's too late for my brain to handle this >.< (4 am I need to sleep) night y'all!
viral rover
Sleep well, don't get ||Powerbombed by Hypnos!||
twin cloak
Hi, not sure if someone already ask, but can we get switch version of hades if we owne the epic one?
I mean, i got the alpha primary to suport the studio cause i love there work but i prefere play it on switch instead of on my computer 😊
night turret
Probably you'll have to buy it on switch, but saves can get transfered.
dark tusk
TLDR: No, but you can port your save file over so you don't have to start from scratch
twin cloak
Yeah eard that during indi conference.
Have to buy game 2 time is a litle annoying 😑
alpine adder
well I doubt Nintendo or other platform holder would be fine with just handing you essentially a free copy
it's what it is
twin cloak
Of course i understand.
raven wadi
Saves can be transferred to switch? That's actually amazing
viral rover
Yep, no word on how though as yet but still early days
raven wadi
Is it an easy process? As in, could it easily be done multiple times, if say you wanted to play at night on your pc but on switch in the day.
It's great even if it is a tedious process, since the time lost on pc isn't 'lost'. But it would be bloody fantastic if you could transfer on the fly
deft salmon
I think IIRC the nindie show case said cross save which to me would imply something more fluid but it might just be a file/save transfer each time you want to do it.
viral rover
I expect we'll know more closer to the date, we still don't even know when 1.0 hits beyond "this autumn"
brisk trail
Is there a Mac version?
Oh didn't see it come on switch with cross Ave
Save
Very good
steep mulch
man, starting a new save, the difference is pretty stark. I felt....so weak. Had to be very careful with health.......if it wasn't for the fact that I had to start with the sword (my least favorite weapon), it would have been a thrill
tall cloak
i think we can trust supergiant on their word for it to not be a precarious thing to cross save, if that is actually what they promised
wind nest
Starting the game is equivalent to playing on 12 heat
steep mulch
no kidding. it might even be worse
im pretty sure winning on Heat 20 is easier than winning with your first run
bronze dome
i just picked this game up yesterday. already pumped like 8 hours into it ! i love it so far
managed to get the hydra down a few times. theseus and his boyo are tough tho lol
past mirage
Nobody:
Elysium Statues:
Can I offer you a nice egg in this trying time?
rose zephyr
My Hades save is gone 😦
rose zephyr
thanks @past mirage going to try it
vagrant bloom
Hey, I’m in Press. Is there a way I can contact Supergiant / join the press list?
I’m only seeing a contact link on the supergiant site
narrow hemlock
there is a contact form on their website if no one replies here.
stray knot
1.0 hype!
fading gazelle
HYPE
steel flicker
signal goblet
"Aw heck I left the oven on."
viscid flicker
Hey, this is a weird question to bring up, but does anyone know where they got the inspiration for Athena's design? I have a vague recollection about her being black but I cannot find anything to support this.
fierce ice
Don't think the ancient Greeks imagined her to be black, was probably artistic liberties on SGG's part to make the cast more visually distinct
viscid flicker
I remember this being something outside of SGG's. When The game launched I was surprised when I saw her design. I know I read it somewhere that there was a theory that Athena was black due to not having a normal birth and being spouted fully grown from zeus's head.
I need someone from the team to answer this because it's been driving me crazy over the last month
stable plinth
why would it?
anyhow I think She is not black she is Trojan
I mean her skin is black but she is not african.
viscid flicker
Thats what Im saying
stable plinth
Trojan woman were known to look like that
its in at least 2 plays
and other places.
viscid flicker
Can you tell me where?
stable plinth
lemmie
Sorry
Spartan
not Trojen
LYSISTRATA
Welcome Lampito!
Dear Spartan girl with a delightful face,
Washed with the rosy spring, how fresh you look
In the easy stride of your sleek slenderness,
Why you could strangle a bull!
its a comedy, she is not sleek or slender
she is a big woman
she is also played by a man
so more hahaha
viscid flicker
The closest thing I can find is her Tritogeneia epithet that has one of it's origins coming from the lake Tritonis in Libya
viscid flicker
I just might, its still going to be bothering me until then
rough token
@stable plinth Probably only 1 more Keepsake
stable plinth
You are also not asking why Ares is black
viscid flicker
That was another one
stable plinth
I think its for the same reason.
viscid flicker
I don't believe that's the case. They made character designs with purpose for the most part
stable plinth
most part?
viscid flicker
I can't personally trace EVERY design decision to something but they all have purpose and can be traced back
stable plinth
anyhow, none of the gods are white, Greek ppl are ash skinned and
Aristotle contended that the Greeks were an ideal people because they possessed a medium skin-tone, in contrast to pale northerners.
Also also, why not?
really. Why not?
viscid flicker
The only people who can answer are the devs
fierce ice
I wonder what group inspired Artemis' green hair 🤔
viscid flicker
We need some answers from Jen Zee on the inspiration for each character design came from
limpid zenith
i changed my pc and all my progress is gone i thougt it will be saved into my epic account
rough token
@limpid zenith Epic does not currently have cloud saves for Hades (they ran into some issues). Do you still have access to your old PC?
rough token
Did you submit any bug reports recently?
rough token
Then I'm sorry, probably can't recover it. However, you can get a save from someone else or the speedrunning website if you don't want to do it all over again
limpid zenith
its not a big deal its only about 12h worth playing i just wish this will not happen agian
@rough token what do you mean exatly
rough token
You can copy the files from another save and put them in your Hades game folder. But 12 hours worth you can probably get back pretty quickly, probably faster than the first time :3
limpid zenith
yea i noticed
can i ask question
do you perfer playing with a controller or keyboard and mouse
rough token
I prefer Keyboard, personally, though I'm alright with a controller
limpid zenith
i have not tried it with a controller do you advise to buy a one and try it or its no necessary
rough token
Not necessary, you can do plenty well without one
narrow hemlock
however the game feels more comfortable to you. I play with controller bc the game is more comfortable to me that way over kbm, but I play a lot of stuff on steam with controller as it is. if you don't already have one and kbm feels fine for you, no need to use a controller
worthy scroll
Does anyone know if there will be physical version for Hades?
terse geyser
I believe I saw that no physical release is currently planned, but I can't seem to find the post now
narrow hemlock
they've confirmed via twitter
terse geyser
confirmed physical release?
terse geyser
phew, I'm not insane
narrow hemlock
you might have seen me mention it yesterday when someone asked lmao
also confirmed no plans for a demo of you see someone ask about that.
terse geyser
good, an open demo for 1.0 would probably be a horrible decision
narrow hemlock
just throwing it out there cause I saw them reply to someone asking on twt about it. I'd imagine even if they did do a demo it would cut off at a specific progression point
worthy scroll
ah dang it : ( thanks for letting me know!
narrow hemlock
o/
terse geyser
imagine if loremaster shoukai wasn't here
narrow hemlock
that's a salute!
narrow hemlock
enlightening. that has now sidetracked my thoughts to emojis. hypnos uses excessive emojis when he texts, than doesn't use them at all and people think he's taken ill when he does, and zag is in the middle of the usage spectrum
rough token
Sometimes Thanatos asks Hypnos to fill up one of Than's texts with emojis to mess with Zag
terse geyser
zag uses tasteful emotes
like :rug: and :comfy chair in which I will never, ever sit:
rough token
Tis uses exactly one emoji to communicate || until she learns a second one ||
Hades is furious with these strange hieroglyphics and refuses to learn what they mean
hexed wolf
Do you guys expect the switch release to be early Fall 2020? Or towards the end of Fall?
rough token
Probably around the same time as 1.0
terse geyser
Am I the only one who expects to hear Sahrian gibberish after characters in Hades emote?
rough token
Sahrian...? I feel like I should know what that is...
terse geyser
Pyre
hexed wolf
Has there been a specific date announced for 1.0 i only saw “Fall 2020” announced.
terse geyser
nope, just sometime in fall
high lynx
this game keeps crashing on me after using alt+tab 😢 have lost hours of progress
no more alt tab I guess
rough token
@high lynx Is a crash window popping up for you to report it?
high lynx
No
the game freezes and I end up closing it after minutes of no response
I paused the game and had some food, came back and it had frozen, just because I was tabbed out
very frustrating, lost that entire run
rough token
Aight. Then I have a couple suggestions:
Report it with f10 next time you start up the game, just describe what happened
Check the end of #h1-tech-fixes for a way to recover some of your lost progress
And bring it up in #h1-tech-support , they might have some more ideas
high lynx
Okay thanks
rough token
Sure thing! And good luck ^.^
brisk trail
why would the final boss name be a spoiler in the discord for the game
thats so stupid
narrow hemlock
because its a simple rule you can respect for the sake of new players
red glade
Oh god I just realized the update is called the Blood Price update and not the Blood Prince update!! I feel so dumb
OFC blood price makes more sense now
brisk trail
but he is the god of blood tho lets be honest
narrow hemlock
take it up with the mods or devs if it bothers you that much. you can talk about spoilers freely in the appropriate channel
brisk trail
if there was a hades 2
and zagreus was a god
he'd have blood related boons
his call would probably be something related to bloodstones
just makes sense right
rough token
when u prohibit discussion for no reason
@brisk trail they don't prohibit discussion, and they do have a reason. They just ask you to move it to an appropriate channel, so that people who haven't discovered it yet can do so for themselves
brisk trail
the reason is pointless
its like prohibiting spoilers on an anime discord for the anime
rough token
What if you're a bit behind and missed a couple episodes? You want to find out that X character died before you even know they're in trouble?
Spoilers having their own, separate, section, is a courtesy
narrow hemlock
theres literally a place for spoiler content #h1-story-discussion no discussion is being prohibited 😭
tepid plover
"Made friends along the way" is just visiting the NPCs right?
rough token
Yup
narrow hemlock
yeah i think you have to see all three of them in a run isnt it
tepid plover
alright thanks
tepid plover
Is it possible to find a heroic boon thats not a replacement?
brisk trail
Eurydice and Demeter.
tepid plover
Cause I'm debating whether I should get Ambrosia Delight or Refreshing Nectar
nova narwhal
Can you save and quit in the middle of a run? Sometimes you need to quit playing because RL and I find that many Roguelites have this option today.
tepid plover
everytime you pick up the reward for a room the game saves
you can tell by the loading icon on the top right
nova narwhal
So it's safe to quit at that point and resume the run from that room? Nice. Thanks
tepid plover
yep
when you press escape you can also see the last time saved
like this
just to make sure
if its less than a minute ago it just saved so you're good to go
narrow hemlock
dont ever choose give up if you want to save your run. it will warn you that you will lose that run's progress, you are only safe to exit mid run if the menu says quit. but yeah otherwise you will see the save icon as you clear rooms, as dio says
tepid plover
^
dont give up
I noticed in shop rooms you cant quit, just enter the next room and it will insta save as soon as you enter so just escape and exit
just be ready for a fight next time you open the game
gusty slate
Underworld shades are pretty rude sometimes
tawny light
Man, I really dont like the rail.
rough token
It's definitely tricky, and pretty different than the rest
tawny light
L aspect felt fun because you get to be a ghostbuster
tried hestia
and it just didn't feel fun.
Got some big crits
but needing to constantly press R3 to do it was cumbersome as all hell.
whole ocean
Is the retrieval on spear special bugged or something? I don't think it's applying all the special bonuses it should be correctly. I'm not seeing a 50% crit rate on retrieval with Vicious Skewer hammer, and I'm definitely not getting 200% increased damage for the retrieval using the charge special hammer.
rough token
I don't think charged throw applies to the return, don't know about the crit rate one
Could 
it though, to be sure
whole ocean
I have
It's not even just hammers, I think there are more attack bonuses that aren't applying correctly.
rough token
Which aspect?
whole ocean
Any that aren't Guan Yu.
The retrieval itself. I'm testing it more right now to see for sure.
rough token
Aight
stray knot
OH I didn't Thanatos and Kendal from Transistor where the same person till now
terse geyser
which one?
stray knot
Kendal R. I thnk his name is
void vigil
Asher kendrell and thanatos are indeed both voiced by chris saphire. He also voiced hedwyn in pyre :>
tepid plover
Fantasy rpg basketball
stray knot
Alright then
tepid plover
Like is a basketball game, disguised as a fantasy novel
And decisions and actions affect the outcome of the story
Greatly
stray knot
I see
orchid pagoda
I just got off Twitter and there's suddenly so much Hades and Zagreus related content than I have ever seen before which aren't just gifs.
It makes me really happy, because I have been here since the first update of the game, and I have seen this thing grow into something more beautiful everytime.
Never a dull moment.
buoyant merlin
I'd totally be down for a 6 episode long animated Netflix series.
carmine coral
Hello, does anyone know when Hades:Singles will be back to bandcamp to buy?
viral rover
Most likely after the game is formally released this autumn
tepid plover
I miss the INTERLOPER Hades line
finite hazel
I have a question: will the v1.0 patch become the last one of big updates for Hades?
brisk trail
we don’t know for sure, but going by previous games then that’s the most likely outcome
past mirage
In any case, it's a good question for the next Ask Supergiant Session.
wind nest
When is the next ssg question and answer session anyways?
narrow hemlock
tomorrow I guess? we were supposed to have an announcement about it sometime
wind nest
Really? Tomorrow?
past mirage
I think the time was already mentioned somewhere, but I failed to find the relevant post.
viral rover
Tomorrow, according to the last newsletter email
past mirage
I'm probably at work when the thing happens, so I'll just hope that my interests are covered by the other server members.
rough token
@past mirage any specific questions?
past mirage
@past mirage any specific questions?
@rough token
I'm interested in the identity of the "Old Man", meaning which poet is depicted by the bust, and whether he says anything beyond "The vastly irritating prince gets no response" if he gets pestered often enough.
narrow hemlock
he does not
I was at it for a long while, after a point the interactions just recycle
past mirage
I suspect the same thing, but maybe, so I thought, you need lyre-level patience for something to happen.
narrow hemlock
nah I don't think it's intended to have more than that
the player still has to put in the effort just for the one narration line as it is
smoky spoke
wind nest
I don’t have the news letter. How does this work exactly?
rough token
@wind nest The Q&A?
wind nest
Yeah how can I ask a question?
rough token
They'll open up #ask-supergiant at 10 am PST tomorrow, you can post as many questions as you want
Then they'll close the channel, and answer whichever they pick
wind nest
ok thank you
rough token
Sure thing!
halcyon mauve
someone tell me why can't I get used to bow nowadays, when I had limited weapon I used to use it frequently but now not not even touch it
brisk trail
Then they'll close the channel, and answer whichever they pick
@rough token Thanks for the info!
drowsy fable
no
thorny arrow
narrow hemlock
@smoky spoke ingame roadmap on the title screen tells you what's still to come. We are expecting the fist 4th aspect and that's about it as far as weapons
wind nest
fall ends on Dec 21st, so maybe think 5 months later
smoky spoke
@smoky spoke ingame roadmap on the title screen tells you what's still to come. We are expecting the fist 4th aspect and that's about it as far as weapons
@narrow hemlock awwww, just wish more content
But I feel like I already played the crap out of this early access already
Just finished a run with Excalibur
With critical that wrecks 1k dmg
drowsy fable
UUUURNGH
what's that charon? "holy mother of spoilers!"?
narrow hemlock
There's only one character coming 😅
cursive crater
zag's motha ?
narrow hemlock
yup
they can't add any new story specific chars at launch at this point besides her, with most of the story in place already
cursive crater
Seems logical
unkempt sleet
It's actually Bouldy's sister
narrow hemlock
they've been saying there's one character left since january update and there's been lots of theories but now that next update is full launch, there's only one option it could be haha
unkempt sleet
What's really exciting is the possibility of EM4
Imagine a harder version of ||redacted||
cursive crater
Speaking of ||I spoke to bouldy quite a lot and gave him a few presents, but there's no new things happening with him :/||
What's EM4 ?
narrow hemlock
pact of punishment, em is extreme measures
the number indicates the level of the condition
cursive crater
It's the boss modifier ?
cursive crater
So it's obviously ||hades||
smoky spoke
Need more boons and upgrade hammer options
narrow hemlock
eh theres already complaints about added boons flooding the boon pool and making it harder to get specific boons
tepid plover
I mean the only characters we can't bond yet are hades and demeter, so it only makes sense that persephone is the one missing
smoky spoke
I mean, that's the fun of having so much
Each run is different
If you can always predict the boons, that's much last fun once you had your perfect combo
cursive crater
I already have a lot of diversity imo
tepid plover
eh theres already complaints about added boons flooding the boon pool and making it harder to get specific boons
I'm surprised there are keepsakes to summon gods, ruining the rng thing, so more boons wouldn't hurt. The fun of roguelikes is making a different run each time, not knowing whats going to happen. So a lot boon flooding isn't a bad thing, is part of the genre
cursive crater
I never go for a specific build, I just take chaos or money at start and then create it with what the game brings to me, I find it fun that way
tepid plover
^
unkempt sleet
I would prefer my high heat runs not completely impossible to complete
tepid plover
I even run approval process, make the game completely rng
tepid plover
Thats the main thing of roguelikes/lite
narrow hemlock
hades is also not striving to deliver the same kind of experience other games in the genre usually do
smoky spoke
I think it can be controlled if you carry a specific item with you
You are more likely to encounter which god
tepid plover
They already give you enough freedom bg letting you choose from multiple doors sometimes, and 3 choices per boon
narrow hemlock
its more a narrative game with rogue lite gameplay than it is a roguelike with story
cursive crater
Agree with Dionysus
unkempt sleet
And I still find it hard to take boons due to Underworld Customs
narrow hemlock
hades not striving to be like other games of the genre is the entire reason i like it more than other rogues ive played
smoky spoke
I still don't really understand the definition of "Rouge-like" game
drowsy fable
||bouldy gives you a tiny little mini-boon when you give him nectar, he's not supposed to be a "character" besides that||
tepid plover
Is just, free builds isnt really a roguelike thing, is rng based
unkempt sleet
I try to get all the boons I can, but if I run into too may boons I can't or don't want to sell, it suddenly becomes much harder
tepid plover
||bouldy gives you a tiny little mini-boon when you give him nectar, he's not supposed to be a "character" besides that||
Bouldy best character, dont @ me
narrow hemlock
rogue "likes" are games in where your runs end at death and you start over, rogue "lites" are where you typically have some form of permanent progression despite death
cursive crater
||bouldy gives you a tiny little mini-boon when you give him nectar, he's not supposed to be a "character" besides that||
@drowsy fable I know, that's why I wonder when he's going to give me this thing because I already gave him a lot T_T
smoky spoke
Ahhhhh, I see
drowsy fable
he does not give you a thing
tepid plover
You know rng is a must when the chambers change each time, not just permanent death
unkempt sleet
When you give him nectar you recieve a boon, like +3% attack boost, but you don't get to choose
narrow hemlock
yeah usually randomization of anything and everything is a primary trait
smoky spoke
You know rng is a must when the chambers change each time, not just permanent death
@tepid plover that's the fun of it
drowsy fable
I mostly use the keepsakes after the first boss to make my builds more consistently powerful
smoky spoke
Oh BTW
smoky spoke
Is there any other keepsake besides Meg's?
drowsy fable
otherwise I stack cash-earning to buy the thing in the last level
tepid plover
Lol all characters have keepsakes
smoky spoke
I mean the summon one
tepid plover
Except bouldy 😫
unkempt sleet
You mean legendary keepsakes or normal ones
tepid plover
Oh yes
smoky spoke
The one that you summon the character
tepid plover
Those are companion btw
smoky spoke
Ohh
unkempt sleet
There's 6 of those
drowsy fable
||there are 6 companions, meg, thanatos, sisyphus, achilles, dusa and skelly||
smoky spoke
I only unlocked Meg but can't find a way to unlock the others
unkempt sleet
Some are more involved than others
drowsy fable
indeed
tepid plover
||sisyphus? You mean bouldy? Hehe||
smoky spoke
Even I nectores the bonds to max
unkempt sleet
Max out all characters with nectar, especially Nyx
cursive crater
@cursive crater try running approval process
@tepid plover I'll try that, but I'm not that good so I hope it's not to hard that way, I'm still at the stage I farm blood to upgrade weapons
unkempt sleet
Then the quest should unlock eventually
unkempt sleet
It's mostly random, except Skelly
drowsy fable
took me like ||20 runs|| to unlock ||thanatos||
cursive crater
What does the little padlock on heart means btw ?
smoky spoke
What does the little padlock on heart means btw ?
@cursive crater you haven't reached the intimacy yet
unkempt sleet
Then you get to use Ambrosia
drowsy fable
have you made it to elysium?
cursive crater
||Because i gave already like 5 ambrosia to bouldy but he won't give me the companion :(||
narrow hemlock
you dont get it that way
smoky spoke
Who? Me?
drowsy fable
yes you
drowsy fable
ah
unkempt sleet
||You can't give Ambrosia to bouldy, you give nectar.||
drowsy fable
then just patience
drowsy fable
nectar only gives a bonus for that singular run
smoky spoke
I think I am up to run 72 so I wondered if I missed sth
narrow hemlock
@cursive crater you're focusing on the wrong thing. ||getting the companion involves lifting sisyphus's terms of punishment||
drowsy fable
it's tiny, but sometimes that small 2-4% bonus matters
||you also gotta give nyx 7 nectar||
unkempt sleet
If you used all the nectar you can, then all you can do is wait
drowsy fable
well
you gotta buy the thing and wait for her to tell you the thing, then buy the other thing
unkempt sleet
I assume you buy admin privileges just to spite dad
drowsy fable
give nectar to errybody
cursive crater
@cursive crater you're focusing on the wrong thing. ||getting the companion involves lifting sisyphus's terms of punishment||
@narrow hemlock oh and that happens by just dialoguing ?
drowsy fable
literally errybody
I didn't get the ||sysyphus|| quest until I started giving ||hypnos|| nectar
smoky spoke
If you haven't noticed, Zag is a sweet talker who can honeypot literally everyone
narrow hemlock
whoops
cement if i sent an inv somewhere thats a mistake LOL i was trying to mention
anyway uh hes not involved in that but ||nyx is||
drowsy fable
you gucci
||I had nyx and sisyphus maxed for like 100 runs (finished nyx quest, even) and didn't get the nyx convo until I gave some nectar to hypnos||
crude hazel
Zagreus makes friends easily.
And yet none of the dialogue really feels out of place or forced.
He's genuinely grateful to his family and friends.
narrow hemlock
id have to check into the requirements but i do know having her to her 
is an immediate requirement, she might have some other dialogue locked behind other convo
drowsy fable
I'm thinkin' it's the one between ||dusa|| and ||hypnos|| and the followup with ||dusa||
drowsy fable
||then again, it might've been that I hadn't talked to bouldy yet||
cursive crater
When you see aphrodite for the first time
drowsy fable
that's very much not what that emote means
cursive crater
i know lol
unkempt sleet
When I saw Aphro I was like "LADY YOU ARE NOT WEARING CLOTHES"