yo can someone explain to me what winters harvest means when it says "shatter"
#h1-discussion
high seal
they die
past mirage
Let's say the odds for epic are 25% and rare 85%. Is it capped to 25:75 or relativized to 22,7: 77,3?
high seal
yeah its pretty busted
tall turtle
it legit just wiped final boss man off the face of the arena
actually now that im thinknig about it that might be my fav legendary
past mirage
It carries a lot of impact indeed. I have seen the argument that it equals x1.1 damage increase, which isn't necessarily superior to other legendaries, but it doesn't require any further prerequisites to work.
worldly sierra
So @deep pivot
What happens if I'm on a challenge run, and I never see a chaos gate, never given any of the Charon well items to buy, and the anvil does not show up... And I have video proof of it?
deep pivot
So @deep pivot
What happens if I'm on a challenge run, and I never see a chaos gate, never given any of the Charon well items to buy, and the anvil does not show up... And I have video proof of it?
@worldly sierra You could try again if you'd like.
past rune
@worldly sierra had the same thing happen to me. This is a very luck-based challenge so it'll happen sometimes
astral folio
Ope, sorry. I was very excited
strange junco
what happens when i take a keep sake that gives me a god boon spawn in between the regions?
is my first boon of that god/
past rune
The next room reward option you get that includes boons will include that god's boon
past rune
that effect of the keepsake will last until you pick up a boon from that god
strange junco
ok i just got hermes so i was confussed
past rune
yeah hermes is an outlier
strange junco
ok question.
granted i took his keepsake, but why has EVERY boon so far been dionysus
minus the one hermes
narrow hemlock
once you take a god's boon, they have a higher chance of popping up. sometimes they dont come back up again, sometimes its all you find
its all just chance
worldly sierra
The game is setting you up for his legendary when that kind of stuff happens @strange junco
cursive onyx
hey, where can i report a typo?
uneven dagger
how do I get the "Hades" role?
cursive onyx
oh thanks!
aw i have f10 mapped to screenshot
ah well, ill try and get it reported!!
buoyant merlin
Glad my feedback suggestion is being recieved well so far.
Hopefully it'd work well
I have to wonder: Whats gonna happen to all of the amazing forced death lines at the end of the runs after we get a real ending? I will miss them
hearty torrent
Narrator berating Zagreus for dying stupidly would be very much missed.
strange junco
so is buying titan blood going to be one of the main ways to farm it (from the 4th region)
titan blood seems really hard to get
brisk trail
I'd say climbing Heat is the main way of earning Titan Blood.
strange junco
i just unlocked heat
any suggestions on what to apply for my fist heat levle
was thinking boss move
brisk trail
Your favorite/best weapon.
That or work on clearing 0 Heat with all of your other weapons.
buoyant merlin
Traps is an easy one.
The first speed modifier is also not that bad and leaves you a fair amount of time
I never take the enemy health one because I hate giving ||Hades|| more health at the end personally
brisk trail
Identity of the final boss is a spoiler.
torpid walrus
does curse of drowning even work with exit wounds? why is it being offered while you have it
buoyant merlin
I really don't think it is when it's ||the title of the game|| and the entire premise is that, but sure. Why the hell not. (no pun intended)
flat vapor
final boss isn't named in the patch notes, and what is be obvious to you may not be to everyone
strange junco
do you get bounties from killing bosses with heat or is using heat the bounty
hearty torrent
Killing each boss on subsequent full clears nets you the bounties.
If you kill a boss with 1 Heat you get the 1 Heat bounty reward. But if you fail to full clear 1 Heat, you only get Darkness from that boss until you kill the Final Boss with 1 Heat. So on and so on.
If you haven't fully cleared 1 Heat but set the Pact to 2 Heat, the game treats bounties as if you're attempting 1 Heat on the current run.
main dawn
so that heat work for us to get the bounty again right?
brisk trail
Yes.
worldly sierra
You'll see what bounties you can earn on the pact itself
On the left side
Under the heat bar
main dawn
so you can just reset the bounty but with harder run then
worldly sierra
Only once you've fully cleared the previous heat level
You can't just keep grinding blood from the first boss by raising the heat
You can only earn the bounties after that
Until you've fully cleared that heat
main dawn
yeah i thought so, because the char keep telling me it's useless to increase the heat lol
worldly sierra
You can choose a different weapon and get bounties at the same heat though
Heat level is for each individual weapon
buoyant merlin
You can do it for fun, and don't worry it doesn't forfeit subsequent lower runs
main dawn
alrightt
worldly sierra
For example, you can raise the heat to 10, and if you haven't cleared heat 0, you can fully clear 10 times and earn all the bounties each time until the pact catches up with you
raw cape
Woo got my first sub 13 minute run on the fists
Funny how throw away runs can sometimes shape up to be the best runs
hearty torrent
Damn nice
raw cape
Fun weapon but easily the one I'm the worst with
main dawn
yeah the fist basic attack range is bad until you got it upgrade from daedulus
but that uppercut tho
raw cape
I struggle with forced overtime and benefits package
Extreme measures 3 too. I just cant dps hard enough without running out of time or I die trying to lol
worldly sierra
EM3 is the showstopper.
Very tough, even for seasoned players without the right build
raw cape
I'm gonna try and do a curse of drowning 32 heat run with fists. Might be the way.
worldly sierra
Middle management as well, if you roll the power couple miniboss in Asphodel
raw cape
Curse of drowning is so much fun
worldly sierra
They are arguably as tough as some main bosses
raw cape
Thanatos helps if you can time it right and get a little luck
hollow halo
winter's harvest is just fun to see demeter yell at redacted
raw cape
Does anyone know how curse of drowning works with Hera?
worldly sierra
With some cast weapons, certain duos are unavailable
For example... No lightning phalanx will appear for || Beowulf ||
Dunno about Hera
raw cape
I imagine it wouldnt show up then
Would be pretty broken if you could make curse of drowning ranged
worldly sierra
Or for all we know, when you Load the bow, you get curse of drowning, and when you fire the bow, you still get flood shot
next escarp
So knockback isn't very good in this game, not complaining it's just a break from most rogue-like games. I think the legendary of Aphrodite, her charm ability, needs an internal cooldown. I had absolutely no damage output but was able nearly stun lock almost every boss I encountered. If it wasn't for boss I-frames I would have made through the 65th level with only a 30% damage increase
from the base damage level
buoyant merlin
@sinful canopy I think thats the point. It's fun to "break" games sometimes sure, but I think Super Giant wanted a more collected and controlled kind of feel for builds so that players weren't constantly trying to rail in the rng to one broken strategy
Re: #hades-feedback
misty girder
Hi, where do i report bug? π¦
sinful canopy
@buoyant merlin Hey thanks for the response! I get where you may be coming from, but in the games I mentioned, aside from Dead Cells during a few patches and maybe Binding of Isaac because I haven't played a lot of it, you can get busted in a ton of different ways. It was balanced because almost everything can be broken with the proper investment. So not sure about the "railing one broken strategy part".
buoyant merlin
You can press F10 in-game @misty girder
misty girder
Ok, thanks will do it tonight π
worldly sierra
Dunno why ppl call for nerfs in a single player game.
It ok to have legendary boons be op.
You don't get them often, and even when you do, you don't always have all the support boons to make full use for them
next escarp
The RNG is kinda of a nightmare when it comes to boons though. Although I can say every Duo power has been really GOOD but nothing totally busted as of yet, granted I've seen like 4 of them so far
fading gazelle
cough Ice Wine cough
sinful canopy
And that is the thing, their individual power level feels fine. I think once you learn how boons interact with each other though they should work together in some pretty disgusting ways, but right now it seems like there are too many caps on what boons are able to do with each other and hammers and aspects.
buoyant merlin
Doesn't one of them just make you take 5 percent less damage and not get stunned
and it's only from bosses no less
worldly sierra
@buoyant merlin that's || unshakeable mettle || and it's way better than you think it is
On high heat, it saves you many times
buoyant merlin
wind nest
There are busted combos in thei game but not every general combo of stuff is effective
next escarp
Charm locking bosses into their attacks not hurting at all is pretty busted
let alone just randos
worldly sierra
Yeah, with high ROF weapons I agree it's kinda busted
sinful canopy
Is there a specific boon/hammer/aspect combination you could mention that is actually busted? Because I am not saying the combinations are weak, like sure they are strong, but in comparison to every other roguelite I have played, the peak of their strength feels fairly tame.
The charm with any rapid-fire attack is the closest I think yes in terms of "Bustedness".
worldly sierra
But the chance to charm is only 15%.
Feels busted because of how many hits you can land with fists/certain bow aspects, rail
white monolith
zeus feels pretty busted if you can get all the synergy up
worldly sierra
Mono Zeus is indeed super powerful
next escarp
Both times I've gotten Aphrodite's Leg I had the Boon that makes yout basic attack into 3 strikes. Once with the Spear, the other with the fists
worldly sierra
But again... It doesn't happen often because of RNG
fading gazelle
A full synergised Arty build on Hera is extremely broken
next escarp
the entire screen was charm locked with the spear
worldly sierra
|| Lucifer rail || + Zeus attack is borderline busted
Chaos aspect shield is straight busted with everything
Take any boon on special except Artemis and you roll just about any heat
next escarp
i HAVEN'T TRIED THE SHIELD. i'M TRYING TO GET EACH ONE OF THE rEWARDS FOR THE WEPS, VIA THE HAMMER UPGRADES
sry caps
fading gazelle
NP
next escarp
Can you always avoid the Floof fight?
sinful canopy
I think you guys keep hearing "Can it clear high heat?", when I am actually saying that I think the game should be more lenient with how you can combine effects and powers, not because I think the game is too hard, or that builds can't compete, I want the potential for sheerly broken disgustingness like you can experience in other roguelites for the pure euphoria of it. At my absolute strongest sure I beat the boss, but the game isn't about beating the boss.
It's chasing that high. I want them to raise the potential ceiling on what we can accomplish. Not because we need to. Because we can.
worldly sierra
Fists with ares attack and Athena dash + merciful end is very strong
Can do the same with the sword if you get flurry slash
next escarp
I mean specifically with this game, sometimes you just get unlucky from the RNG and Boons. When you have no Damage upgrades but a ton of reduction, it just gets super tedious
I had like a 45% damage reduction on one run from abilities I was a tank with a nerf bat
worldly sierra
Athena call + Hermes second wind if you use the Lambent Plume trinket is insane strong
You can facetank everything
sinful canopy
@worldly sierra Mudamuda Fists with Lambent Plume is definitely one of my faves.
worldly sierra
Lol... Mudamuda?
white monolith
zag aspect?
next escarp
The Fists feel like Monk builds from d3. High IAS and Dodge chance
worldly sierra
I use Demeter aspect most times
worldly sierra
I can show you a || Beowulf || mono Demeter build that is auto win if you get it
Was so strong
buoyant merlin
Thats why i love the fists
brisk trail
that one sword improvement that gives damage based on money is pretty great
severe owl
Hi everyone, new to this server, so this question may have been asked many times before, but here we go. Dont you think shield's defence is kinda against the game design? In my point of view battles in Hades are close to those in the latest Doom - they are about constant movement, and everything is built around it, but defence allows you to just calmly stay and rest, with shooting hammer's upgrade it's even worse. Is it so, or I am wrong?
raw cape
You can add time restrictions later on after you complete your first run
Forces you to be more aggressive.
And if you have fun playing defense then more power to you. It is a non-competitive single player game after all
severe owl
Yeah, I know about timer and play-how-you-want-to, but this detail just feels wrong
raw cape
Well it feels fine to me. Nice to have a weapon that is a bit easier to play even at higher heat.
I've personally never felt the mechanic to be game breaking or make it much better than the other weapons
I also dont think it encourages defensive play if you know what you're doing
(As in you shouldnt need to camp behind your shield)
white monolith
i think the shield helps you learn a lot as well
strange junco
is the 4 aegis aspect in the game? I've talked to chaos like 6 times with chaos shield no luck
azure jasper
do you have 5 titan bloods sunk into upgrading the shield aspects and the 4th spear aspect?
strange junco
i have chaos shield to level 4, I don't have the spear aspect
azure jasper
you have to unlock the 4th spear aspect before you can get any of the others
strange junco
how do you get the spear aspect?
glad cobalt
shield
nice to play a weapon that is a bit easier to play
be me
shield is the toughest weapon to play with
strange junco
ugh really turning me off how slow you earn titan blood
azure jasper
speaking of which, what happens if you skip heat levels? do you get the rewards for the lower ones too or does do you have to lower it to get the bounties?
glad cobalt
...cough ||Mods|| can help with that, Mike. >_>
strange junco
is there a save editor i can use to just tack on blood
glad cobalt
IDK, I get too worried that I'd miss out, so I've never tried it, Shadow.
azure jasper
same. i don't want to lock off bounties by skipping them
glad cobalt
Nah, but there's one that has the option to increase resource gains by multipliers, Mike.
strange junco
guessing nexus?
flat vapor
you only earn bounties one heat level at a time, but there's nothing stopping you from doing higher heat runs
glad cobalt
For Titan Blood, I think its default setting is x3. Yeah, you're looking for MagicGonad's, uh.. crap, I forgot the name.
azure jasper
so if i skip 1 and 2 on a weapon and do heat level 3 i get the bounties for 3 and then can go back and get 1 and 2 by clearing on those specific heat levels correct?
flat vapor
no, you get the bounties for heat 1
if you clear successfully, then you can go and get the bounties for 2
flat vapor
bounties can only go up the next heat level if you clear a run, btw
azure jasper
ty
flat vapor
π
glad cobalt
@strange junco The name is Magic's Edits. You'll need a couple of their other stuff to get it to work, though.
strange junco
yeah that's why i was asking if there's just a save editor
i found it, a lot of stuff to do
glad cobalt
The process of getting it working sounds complicated at first, but it's really just a few downloads put in the right spots and running the Python script.
strange junco
is there any other way? i don't like install python just to use it to mod hades
it's a waste
glad cobalt
Not that I know of, no, sorry.
Python isn't a big install, though. Should only take like 5min, max, if you go that route.
brisk trail
@strange junco use cheat engine. the value type for this game are double
strange junco
wont' some online games like lock up if cheat engine is even installed on your pc
brisk trail
iv never had an issue. just don't use it during multiplayer
shy jolt
I was once offered the Hermes boon that boosts your attack alongside your speed "Side Hustle" when I had no buffs to speed available. The only other Hermes boon I had was healing after a botched dodge. I did have the plume, although that seems a little overpowered if the buff would be applied 100% of the time.
white monolith
just wanna make sure, but delta chamber bricks hestia right?
coarse junco
Nope
white monolith
how does it work?
flat vapor
you can still manually reload
flat vapor
eh, delta chamber itself isn't great anyways
a lot of the attack hammers for rail don't affect the empowered shot either
white monolith
i had piercing shot and it was amazing haha
agile saddle
are we allowed to tslk about the new aspects and stuff in discussion yet?
sharp parcel
strange junco
how do you unlock the 4th spear aspect
terse geyser
pins in #h1-story-discussion
buoyant merlin
@mystic arch , this channel might be better
I really like it too. I love games where you dodge fast and attack fast, so after I saw one gif of Hades I was sold. 110 hours later and I'm all in.
mystic arch
Ohm, youre right, sorry about that
high island
All three of your feedback posts are fine, actually.
raw cape
Does chaos's +%special damage affect Zeus's lightning bolts?
I assume no but just double checking
high island
No. It only affects your Special's base damage.
raw cape
That's what I figured. Thank you!
buoyant merlin
How? They weren't feedback.
flat vapor
positive feedback is still feedback
buoyant merlin
Fair enough.
Though if I started posting positive feedback I'd just flood the channel. It's really tempting to put it in my top 5 indies, but I'm restraining myself until it's had longer to simmer in my mind
and of course for an actual 1.0, though the game feels really complete already
rough token
Ah, Boss Door, you might want to specify "Attack" and "Special", since people often use different keybinds, or like me use M&K and don't know the Controller bindings
buoyant merlin
Thats a good idea.
rough token
o7
buoyant merlin
Post in #boss-door-feedback
rough token
Hahaha
lofty dragon
Game is already GOTY for me
buoyant merlin
The writing really inspired me to get better at making my Dungeons and Dragons campaign.
rough token
That's dope!
buoyant merlin
I love ||the slow reveal through Zag and the fury that they were dating. At first it's so tempting to give her nector all the time because you want to see how such a bitter character would warm up to you. But that history added so much dimension||
rough token
Definitely
buoyant merlin
Also as far as the guy whos chained to the giant boulder, I almost wish ||that Zag discovered an absolutely heinous crime about him. One that made him consider the limits of redemption.||
lofty dragon
Well he is pretty known from mythology
rough token
Sisyphus or Prometheus? Because Sisy isn't chained to his rock
buoyant merlin
The npc in area 1
rough token
It's too late (low brightness) for me to see it very well, I'll look more closely in the morning
lofty dragon
Sys is punished to roll the rock uphill
buoyant merlin
We just need to get Hades on PS5 so that the best greek crossover can happen.
fading gazelle
Which then falls back down to be pushed again
Which crossover?
God of War?
Ah I see
rough token
Ya mean Ares? :P
fading gazelle
but of course 
rough token
Or is it Mars?
buoyant merlin
I mean cmon if Kratos appeared in shovel knight
lofty dragon
He what
fading gazelle
Shovel Knight is known for appearing literally everywhere
spring radish
running the new shield for the first time, anyone have a fun cast/build to go for with it?
lofty dragon
Art is pretty bursty
spring radish
how is the posedion/artemis duo?
rough token
(shield) Only did it once, and it was bugged at the time Β―\_(γ)_/Β―
spring radish
mirage shot
fading gazelle
Remind me what that does again?
rough token
Dual shot
rough token
Got moved in Blood Price, apparently. Haven't seen either myself yet
fading gazelle
You mean the zoom blade?
rough token
I just got hooked on Neverwinter so I haven't been playing much Hades, but I think Lady Artemis got a new boon, and Twin Shot got moved to Mirage Shot
rough token
If anything, it's slightly easier to get I think, since it doesn't require Artemis' cast
Though I don't know for sure about the pre-reqs for Mirage
orchid zealot
christ theseus really is a harder boss than the final boss half the time
rough token
Final boss is a spoiler, please. Either tag or just call him final boss ^.^
Though with some builds, I absolutely agree xD
rough token
Ouch, yeah
rough token
For me it's Witches 
:P
On basically anything except shield or 4th sword, without Athena those things are a nightmare
topaz crystal
I feel like that it's not fair that the Volcano-spittting main hydra head basically covers the entire back area with lava when the smaller heads are spawned.
It's an invitation for 'get stuck and reach the dps cap for Zag' me at least.
buoyant merlin
so for the longest time I thought Zag had a black eye piece over his face similar to phantom of the Opera until I realized it was just the shading
cobalt anvil
It's not that bad imo. You can always trick the head to shoot lava at a spot then leaves. I play with mouse & keyboard and move only with keyboard but I've never had any problem with it
topaz crystal
It's a particular attack. It either covers the area under it or in the inner area w.r.t the pillars or the entire area outside the pillars.
buoyant merlin
Anyone here played Children of Morta? It looks really good and it's on sale. Looks like Hyper Light drifters combat
(figured people here are probably big fans of dashing and smashing combat like that)
rough token
That probably should go in #video-games :P
cobalt anvil
@topaz crystal Have you beaten the final boss yet?
cobalt anvil
So you know already. Yeah it's way easier so don't get discouraged. Try a few more times and I'm sure you'll do better
fading gazelle
I just find EM Lernie arena is just a bunch Bullshade
It's just lava
If you have SM its terrible
worthy egret
Resets a few(?) of your boons to common, and they go up in rarity every few encounters
fading gazelle
It gets better and better
Like it drops it to common and if you go through enough chambers you have a heroic boon on your hands
sturdy oasis
is it random if it selects a single or multiple boons? it says ''boons'' in the description but it only says 1 in the description
buoyant merlin
depending on the rarity of cultivate itself
I think is what determines how many it effects
sturdy oasis
ah i see, so text isn't the most descriptive ^^
buoyant merlin
@cobalt anvil I like your profile picture. Can you send it to me? I have a folder of fantasy landscapes
sturdy oasis
is there a difference in naming between ''ability'' boons and passive perk boons?
buoyant merlin
I do not think so
sturdy oasis
ok thanks!
buoyant merlin
Though the ablity ones appear on the black bar
sturdy oasis
yeah
buoyant merlin
Anyway:
Calling it now. Hades 2 cover art will have Zag and Anime Reaper back to back with mount Olympus in the background because the second game will be about climbing it.
sturdy oasis
thats why i thought they were maybe called something else
buoyant merlin
The second game always has another playable character and that character always appears on the cover
(see epic mickey power of 2)
cobalt anvil
@buoyant merlin sure let me see if I can find it
cobalt anvil
Honestly I'm surprised no one has any problem with Hestia's reload speed as of late
Before the update I could instantly reload and fire another shot but now there's like a 0.5 sec delay before I can reload again
kind field
Hey guys I was wondering do any of you know roughly when the games next update will be?
buoyant merlin
Wow people really don't care for my thoughts on the bow in feedback.
It's planned for this year, that's all we know so far. It'll be 1.0 though
kind field
Hmm alright thank you!
buoyant merlin
yep yep
cobalt anvil
@buoyant merlin I have tried Children of Morta before. Loved the art style and the narrator's voice but not a fan of the gameplay
buoyant merlin
Noted. Thanks!
buoyant merlin
I thought I was still able to do the three part standard attack combo for the sword after I got the "hold standard attack to strike rapidly" hammer upgrade
or at least I could've sworn
unless the latest update changed something
cobalt anvil
No it has always been the first two attacks in the sequence
buoyant merlin
Thought that if you still pressed them rapidly it'd do the normal sequence and if you held it down it did the first two
cobalt anvil
Interesting. I have never tried to pressed rapidly. Guess I'm not eligible to answer your question
twilit void
question - if I have to go to work is my only option to leave the game running and paused? or can i quit or something and save where I am
zenith rune
You can quit and it saves as long as you quit in a room after an encounter or without enemies. May be wrong though
In terms of the scenario
hearty torrent
When you enter a chamber, before taking damage you can choose "quit" from the pause menu. It'll make a temporary save from the start of that room you can come back to later.
zenith rune
I think @hearty torrent 's explanation is more accurate
twilit void
Ok Iβm in the shop before the third area boss
So I can enter the boss room and quit?
hearty torrent
You can probably quit and it'll set your save to the beginning of that room. It won't save what you've bought, but it's a save.
twilit void
The quit is grayed out
I should have enough time to beat the boss though
So I can quit after
hearty torrent
Then yeah, go into the arena and see if you can quit as soon as the dialogue is over.
twilit void
First run with zags fist I didnβt think I would like them this much
hearty torrent
Or before the dialogue starts if it'll let you.
hearty torrent
guh, finally got enough information to add new Sneak to wiki
twilit void
Lol
So if I get offered a βcallβ boon and I donβt believe I have a call, can I still pick it up and does that give me the ability to use them?
I guess I donβt get that part
It feels like Iβm being offered a boon for an ability I donβt have
Is that a summon?
worthy egret
Picking up a Call gives you the ability to use it
It's basically asking a god for help, it makes sense that you cannot use this until you are given the option to by a god
twilit void
Ahhh so thatβs like a one run thing
But a summon is what you get by building relationships with people?
Does that take the place of your regular keepsake?
hearty torrent
Chthonic Companions are summons you can use a specific number of times per run.
Call boons are offered by Olympians, and can be used once they've charged up. The "God Gauge" increases as you deal and take damage, allowing you to use your Call after it fills each bar or when you've maximized the gauge for a greater effect. However the gauge depletes fully after you clear a chamber.
worthy egret
Companions do not take the slot of your Keepsake, they have their own slot.
Also, only a few characters can give you a Companion
twilit void
Ok so I should try and get one ASAP? I have three ambrosia
ornate wyvern
You need to exhaust a log of dialog and feed them multiple nectars
twilit void
Oh well
ornate wyvern
So it's not like you'll have on after 5 runs
twilit void
I can start working on it now
worthy egret
And then exhaust even more dialogue
twilit void
I want Thanatos
worthy egret
don't we all π
ornate wyvern
Thanatos best girl
twilit void
Ahh I didnβt even realize I just had to get a call boon to be able to use a call
I thought I had to unlock an ability
glad cobalt
TFW people gunning for Thanatos companion when I've yet to meet 'em even once. 
worthy egret
I knew i was supposed to meet him 'somewhere later in the game' from a friend so i just forgot about that and played
And then it happened
glad cobalt
cries in at least one clear with all weapons Later into Heat?
worthy egret
And i may have had my wig taken
oh damn youre p late
I think i met him like
Uhhh
glad cobalt
Uh, ye. XD
worthy egret
About 40~ runs in so depending on how fast you were?
glad cobalt
I only met Eurydice for the first time like... after halfway through clearing with each weapon, I think?
worthy egret
Cause i beat the game at 50 because i was scared of the ending and didnt exactly aim to beat the final boss
glad cobalt
But that one may've been me not realising I had the chance before then.
glad cobalt
Yeah.. and I've yet to see Eurydice since the first time, so no Keepsake from her yet.
worthy egret
Soon enough
carmine pecan
hm hades hasnt replied to my f10 yet
worthy egret
they reply to that?
carmine pecan
idk
worthy egret
Or can you like put your contact in the f10 or
carmine pecan
worthy egret
Cause i never do, i dont need them to write me back, i just trust they saw it
Because i write dumb stuff in f10 sometimes ahdhfuf
explains bug
makes a pun
Also hmm for Than
carmine pecan
eh i need them to write back
glad cobalt
Well, I don't exactly play flawlessly.. xd
worthy egret
Never paid attention to my healthbar
Its always like
enters chamber
...
FRIEND
glad cobalt
I've played other roguelikes/lites that taught me to always be conscious of my health.
sharp parcel
"Death approaches"
glad cobalt
"Death approaches"
Oh, you're approaching me?
worthy egret
Or maybe its just Zag who can sense Than before he arrives
sharp parcel
god damn, I was just typing this!
glad cobalt
Baaaahahahahah, gottem.
worthy egret
"OH YOURE APPROACHING ME? INSTEAD OF RUNNING AWAY, YOU ARE COMING RIGHT TO ME?"
"I can't help you without coming closer, Zag!"
twilit void
Damn Iβve had like four Thanatos challenges and less than 20 attempts
glad cobalt
...ZigZag TailWag. That is all.
carmine pecan
jojo is a nice anime
worthy egret
The first death arrives i didnt know what to do and i was SO SCARED than was gonna kill me if i lost
Its nEVER EXPLAINED WHAT TO DO
glad cobalt
For some reason, I was doing a run a while back, and I just hear "Heed my call." I was like, "Whoa, what the heck? Chill, Chaos, jeez."
worthy egret
Fall into the Abyss...
past mirage
||Nyxβ teleportation aura is quite similar to Thanβs, but has a different color.||
worthy egret
Come to me...
glad cobalt
If I remember right, I was engaging in my usual habit of breaking all the urns.
twilit void
Anyone elseβs least favorite weapon the gun?
glad cobalt
..I like the gun, but I've been loving Sword Aspect 4.
worthy egret
Sword aspect 4 is great
twilit void
So far my favorite runs have been the spear with flurry jab, bow with twin shot and some Zeus boons
worthy egret
Spear is my least favourite weapon coincidentally lmao
twilit void
I unlocked the Chiron bow but I donβt think itβs very good unleveled
glad cobalt
The Shield has to be my least favourite weapon, tbh, and then the bow.
twilit void
I think shield and gun are my least favorite because shield is so weird to mainhand and gun is just eh
sharp parcel
@twilit void try Zeus attack with the rail
glad cobalt
...mostly because I'm not very good with them, to be frank.
twilit void
Iβve only done one attempt with the gun so Iβll definitely be trying it again
torpid folio
worthy egret
I enjoy Chaos/Zag shield, Zag/Hera bow, All rails except Hestia who i didnt have a chance to properly try out yet, and Talos and Zag fists
glad cobalt
RIP Aurry? XD
worthy egret
I dont play spear but when i do its Hades aspect for spite points
twilit void
I need more Titan blood to level the Chiron bow
glad cobalt
For my favourite Rail, of the ones I've tried, it's the reload-for-damage-boost one.
worthy egret
Sword i like all aspects
glad cobalt
Because.. I'm a habitual reloader.
glad cobalt
I tried Poseidon Sword when I built Demeter cast.
twilit void
Whatβs the fourth bow aspect? What does the suffering do or whatever
worthy egret
All the affected get damaged for a bit if you hit one of them
Just keep shooting pins like a porcupine
worthy egret
Ive only played Rama twice though so dont take it from me
twilit void
Chiron bow was pretty meh at level two
quiet grove
hello . 
i just download the game and after i opened it i read a message unable to save
what should i do? 
vague zinc
Tbh rama feel like ||lucifer|| lite to me.
twilit void
Is there a tier list anywhere?
fading gazelle
Tier list of weapons and its aspects?
outer comet
Why do you need a tier list? I think, with how aspects and such work in this game, it might be redundant :P
fading gazelle
I don't mind makin one for fun tho
void vigil
there is one you can make yourself, but its a little outdated (from the long winter update)
fading gazelle
Im on it
hearty torrent
with the exception of Aspect 2 Shield, any tier list will be fully subjective.
Aspect 2 Shield is just OP.
fading gazelle
cough Ice Wine cough
void vigil
id say its still subjective, bc some people might not be good with the shield as they are with other weapons?
hearty torrent
It's very very good maxed out. But yeah, On a weapon scale it's preference.
hearty torrent
Just among shield aspects Aspect 2 is the best, though Aspect 4 seems like it's got a mixed reception for a 2nd place?
fading gazelle
Same
void vigil
my first victory was back when hydra was the final boss, but im pretty sure it was also with the sword
outer comet
Fair
fading gazelle
I whacked the final boss before I unlocked anything
hearty torrent
I've yet to use it myself, but I've seen both positive and negative feedback on it.
outer comet
Aspect 4 shield might be my favourite, but that's my cast bias.
void vigil
i play fists almost exclusively now tho, theyre so fun
i used to be a bow main.... ;__; i suck now
hearty torrent
Sword is my favorite though yeah.
hearty torrent
Every Aspect of Sword feels good to play, even though they have very different playstyles.
outer comet
The way every word in that sentence is capitalized
hearty torrent
alma ought to be lower case
outer comet
I agree Yuki.
void vigil
lmao i feel it though
fading gazelle
Poseidon aspect feels so bland compared to the others
fading gazelle
I mean comparing it to Truck and Zoom it really isn't that great
hearty torrent
Exit Wounds build for Poseidon is crazy as heck. Poseidon + Full Artemis built is nutso.
fading gazelle
Ahh
outer comet
Absolute crazy
fading gazelle
I should have specified imo
outer comet
Yeah
hearty torrent
Fully Loaded Arty Cast, into Exit Wounds, then Poseidon Special, rinse repeat.
outer comet
I've never gotten Fully Loaded ;~;
fading gazelle
Sad
hearty torrent
I managed to spec straight through the Arty Cast -> Exit Wounds + Dual Shot -> Fully Loaded before Blood Price dropped.
outer comet
Yeet
hearty torrent
now i dunno how to grab fully loaded anymore...
hearty torrent
I can kinda read the game code for boon reqs now but I needs Peach's charts 
outer comet
Fully Loaded with Arti cast and Hera...
Anyway I should stop thirsting over builds given I had to refund my mirror for || a certain 8888 darkness upgrade || so I have very little to play with xD
One death defiance ;~;
worthy egret
Love sword aspects
hearty torrent
Lol, I got lucky this is my pre-Beefy update save, so the mirror respec only lost me Fated Authority
worthy egret
The Zoom, The Angery, The Shotgun, and The Truck
hearty torrent
Sword Aspects:
Zoom
Crit
Exit Wounds
Truck
All are fun in their own right.
outer comet
Poseidon with Stygian Soul is totally valid
hearty torrent
Same cannot be said for any other weapon, though I think the 3 for Fists are pretty good.
outer comet
If you manage to get multiple casts it is pretty beast with the recharge, yeah.
hearty torrent
You can still Exit Wounds with Stygian Soul.
outer comet
^
hearty torrent
unless that got changed
worthy egret
I love the zoom part of zag aspect because just. The thought of Zag picking up his fully awakened weapon and immediately his urge to run around and never sit reaches its maximum
outer comet
And if you manage to get multiple casts you stack bloodstones faster and better for one, and if you have Fully Loaded and Artemis you are literally just... SPRAYING.
hearty torrent
but yeah, Hermes cooldown plus maxed Stygian can sometimes put more Bloodstones in a foe than pre-Fully Loaded Infernal Soul
autumn pagoda
Get all Revenge boons in one run is lovely. 
Btw, rarely taking them - so probably missed one, l have: Athena, Aphrodite, Ares, Demeter, Zeus - that all right?
outer comet
It's my dream build but it needs so much luck.
worthy egret
Hades: How do you know that weapon would fully bond to such a little brat.
Nyx: He's been zooming around the house for ten hours without stopping once.
Hades: ah truly is his aspect
hearty torrent
I kinda wish Zag's Aspects were more focused on his Hyperactivity Disorder, rather than just: Minor improvement to base weapon.
hearty torrent
Yeah I basically just meant the ones where his aspect is kinda bad.
Like make it so Zag Shield's Special flies faster.
worthy egret
I kinda like the damage reduction on it tho like. Boy's tough
hearty torrent
Zag Sword and Zag Fists are good Aspects, but the others are really lackluster.
worthy egret
Makes me curious why all of zag aspects are just stat improvements
I mean gameplay wise i get it
But story wise scritches chin
hearty torrent
p much
worthy egret
Zag:
Zag: are my weapons calling me basic
fading gazelle
Infernal Arms: Yes
hybrid tangle
do people use the special on fists? seems really lackluster
fading gazelle
I use special alot
Its a good combo ender
Also when using Talos Aspect with Poseidon its hilarious
brisk trail
Talos aspect special is very good
fading gazelle
Yeah
hybrid tangle
ah
high island
Dash-Upper, yes. Regular Uppercut, not really.
hybrid tangle
whats dash upper
high island
If you dash and press Special.
It's faster with less recovery than the regular Uppercut, so it's a lot safer to use. Lower base damage, but it's affected by any Dash-Strike damage +% you get, so the damage can go very high.
hybrid tangle
ah
lofty dragon
I love dash upper, gets pretty spammy though
fading gazelle
I just love imaging how Darren recorded conversations with Zagreus and Skelly. He just talks to himself back and forth
topaz crystal
I think they take a bunch of dialogue of a character and do multiple takes until they're happy. There isn't an actual dynamic conversation going on. Or so I think.
dusk maple
hi guys, can somebody tell me how to unlock new rail and bow aspects?
cloud zinc
guys. Artemis crit + bow zagrey crit is Ρombine?
fading gazelle
Percentages is additive and yes it stacks
cloud zinc
Thanks!
fading gazelle
No Problem 
hybrid tangle
@dusk maple 5 titan blood into each weapon and talk to zeus for rail and artemis for bow
brittle blade
Just picked the game up on steam sale. Wew itβs fun. However, itβs making me realize how badly I want this on switch and rougelikes are... rough to restart. Is there any chance that if (when?) it comes to switch that there will be cross save support somehow? Iβd double dip in an INSTANT.
winged bear
@brittle blade when the 1.0 release comes, a lot of people may want to restart to make sure they didn't miss any narrative arcs or changes that may have occurred since early access
so if you're planning on making a restart, might be worth saving it for a platform change?
gusty slate
Fresh v1.0 save will be quite a fun time to relive the story
fading gazelle
v 1.0 HYPE
nocturne rampart
Still hoping that I will kept my save from bΓͺta.
Will be sad to loose Γ save worth 300h
gusty slate
Hm, I don't see why our save wouldn't be kept
hybrid tangle
theres no rough date on when v1.0 is coming yet right? just this year
well depends on whether the save is cloud or on your desktop, if its on your desktop you can make a copy, though not sure if this is against tos
narrow hemlock
@nocturne rampart #hades-faq states that devs aim to not wipe saves
worthy egret
Yessss
hearty torrent
Beowulf and Rama Aspects are fully listed in wiki, tried and tested for damage numbers against Skelly.
hearty torrent
YES! finally got a second Chaos fish
jaunty marsh
is there a limit of titan blood u can earn on each save?
novel wasp
Not really
you can farm indefinitely
but the heat challenge stops giving you reward at around 20 i think?
quaint bramble
Not as far as I know, since you can buy and trade for them. There is an upper limit to what bounties give you.
floral shore
Yeah, after 20 no more bounties.
But you can always trade up with the broker, get stuff from Styx shop or Chaos fish at an incredibly poor chance.
cold hinge
How much titans blood to max the aspects?
floral shore
51 per weapon (minus fists).
jaunty marsh
depends on weapon and aspect
from 5 to 20
51 per weapon (minus fists).
@floral shore wow really?
floral shore
It's 5 + 15 + 16 + 15 for every weapon except the fists, where the final one is missing yet.
cold hinge
Well that obviously goes over the 20 heat bounty cap
And very likely over my skill level
floral shore
Yeah, but you also get a fairly large chunk from prophecies, plus you get way more Ambrosia than you need from the bounties and prophecies, so you can trade up there as well.
I maxed out all the weapons and have enough blood stashed to max out the final fists aspect immediately, and haven't completed all the bounties.
cold hinge
Oh wow
I always feel like Iβm gonna be needing more resources, suddenly I have no use for keys
floral shore
Keys is generally the resource that you run out of uses for the earliest, Nectar too at some point.
You can always trade them up though, so there's that.
brisk trail
Excited to see what they do for the ending
floral shore
100 keys is a blood.
hearty torrent
(mostly)
cold hinge
Timed deals for keys need to increase based on # of clears or something
hearty torrent
very rarely you can snag a blood for 15 keys
floral shore
Yeah, that right there is a reason to never drop below 15 keys, it's a killer deal.
85% off.
Have to admit I'm close on completing the bounties though, so I'm not miles off. Shield and Fists are done, Rail is one off from done, Sword two, Bow and Spear four each.
hearty torrent
easily best deal the broker can offer
floral shore
So you need to farm a fair amount of bounties.
But it's entirely possible to max out everything well before you run out of bounties.
cold hinge
Iβm still picking whatever weapon has dark thirst
Bc I have so much to max on mirror still
floral shore
Yeah, I just pick whatever I feel like running now. And I've mostly given up on the bounty running, I don't really need much and I just suck with bow in particular.
cold hinge
The bow doesnβt feel as fluid as the other weapons to me but it was still my first clear and I am consistent on it
floral shore
I just stink with the bow in general, very much unable to both aim and dodge. Also either the game got more difficult with the last patch or I just got worse, can't exactly tell.
It has always been my weakest weapon though. First clear was with the fists.
cold hinge
Only one I havenβt cleared with yet is Varatha, which is surprising bc that was my first big break up to Elysium
floral shore
It's worth trying it, getting out with each weapon once fulfills a prophecy that gives you 10 blood straight up.
For Varatha... what you do with that thing tends to depend on what hammers you're getting.
cold hinge
Ngl some hammer upgrades seem antithetical to a certain weapons play style
Like fists slow 3 jab
hearty torrent
yeah, the hammers dictate varatha's playstyle more than boons. at least until you get the hidden aspect.
cold hinge
Hidden aspect seems bad unless youβre really good/ wanna be in all the time, or unless itβs maxed
floral shore
You need GY maxed out, otherwise you're in for a hell of a ride.
cold hinge
I use Achilles bc Iβve put 0 blood into Zag so I get no buff from it
floral shore
Achilles can't get the Exploding Launcher hammer though, which is really, really good.
floral shore
There's a few that are incompatible with certain aspects.
cold hinge
Even though I hate charging
floral shore
Like Exploding Launcher doesn't work on either Achilles or Guan Yu, as the first one needs the bull rush thingy to function, and Guan Yu essentially has a built-in Exploding Launcher anyway.
cobalt anvil
I have never used Hades even though I've play for over 50 hrs4
It just sounds so bad in theory
hearty torrent
There's a learning curve to used Spin Attacks well enough to benefit from Hades without leaving yourself open.
cobalt anvil
Yeah I prefer Guan Yu. It's just so good overall. It's base damage is enough even in Elysium and that's crazy
Best special pre-nerf
coarse junco
Iβd say the only point where itβs not ideal is during the final boss. But by then you should have enough options to make it work
cobalt anvil
I don't think many people realize that the only way to increase your base damage is through Daedelus Hammer upgrades
Everything else scales with base damage
So the reason Charged upgrades and Explosive Launcher are so great is because they essentially triple or even quadruple the base damage
coarse junco
Huh... so thatβs why my special seemed to be hitting for harder once I got the charged bow special hammer.
raw cape
New consecutive hits special hammer for bow is fantastic on Chiron
cobalt anvil
Beowulf's special is also nuts with Charged Throw. +400% increase base damage makes it insane
I once crit for 5k damage with it
lavish comet
I have a question on game save wise
I have passed Asphodel and I want to exit the game, will the save return me to the same place before I quit (in passage between asphodel to Elysium) or throw me back to my home?
old plover
It will save you in the most current room cleared or hallway between
from my experience
floral shore
If you press quit you will return to where you are, if you press give up you will be yanked to the house.
lavish comet
Alrighty, and thank you! π
I am fired up for real to fight Theseus (again lol)! π‘ But gotta take a break for my eyes lol
gusty slate
Good 'ol Elysium best area in the game..
worthy egret
/s
narrow hemlock
i think the most annoying thing about elysium is having to kill exalted twice, so it adds to how much longer it is. though i have my days id rather suicide a run in elysium than go trudge through satyr tunnels and finish a run
mellow haven
hm
at first I thought L was going to be T.E. Lawrence and I was like "no that can't be it, surely not a 20th century british soldier"
worthy egret
Elysium is just
Shield dudes
Bow dudes
Those make me so mad
And while spear dudes have their moments the rest of the stuff is fi-
I just remembered chariots and flame wheels
Nevermind
azure jasper
The enemies of the zones come with the attacks of the boss from that zone and those guys are buttholes so
floral shore
Chariots are just something my monkey brain cannot handle. I have no idea how to evade those dudes properly. It's crazy.
azure jasper
Use the shield and hold left click at them. Its the only way that works more often than not lol
floral shore
Yeah, but on average I'd say I can do that in slightly more than 1/6th of the run, on account of lacking the shield in the others.
floral shore
I do kinda like the challenge it presents, it's just too long imo.
They could snip a room and that would be perfectly fine.
flat vapor
i will also agree that elysium sucks
shield dudes aren't even that bad anymore, i've learned to hate elite spears and elite bows now
narrow hemlock
the most common complaint about elysium is that it is indeed too long
azure jasper
I think its just the types of enemies are hard to handle quickly
narrow hemlock
honestly my complaints about greatshields tapered off significantly after they got nerfed january, the biggest issue with them was their extremely limited vulnerability period
fading gazelle
TD whoops your butt
flat vapor
at least the minibosses aren't really that bad
floral shore
Asterius can be fairly terrifying.
fading gazelle
Yeah Asterius and Butterfly ball are pretty consistent
Unlike a certain power couple in Asphodel
flat vapor
asterius can be terrifying but there's no chance of being stunlocked by 5 ranged asteriuses
elite bows on the other hand...
floral shore
Power couple is a bit annoying because it's the only miniboss fight that becomes significantly more challenging with MM active.
flat vapor
i'd say MM megagorgon is the hardest miniboss in the game rn
fading gazelle
Absolutely
flat vapor
or, at the very least, the most frustrating
fading gazelle
Do the witches change on MM?
lavish comet
Ah yes, the megagorgon... -SOBS VIOLENTLY-
fading gazelle
I haven't noticed the difference
floral shore
Don't think they do, at least I haven't noticed.
flat vapor
maybe? i haven't turned off MM this update yet
fading gazelle
Lol same
floral shore
Wretched Shade becomes a little bit harder because he doesn't spawn the wringers without MM.
flat vapor
they probably should though, i doubt sgg would just skip over them
floral shore
Ton of lasers though.
gusty slate
Nice spiderweb of lasers to get caught in
fading gazelle
You can usually smash them pretty easily and he just becomes a megasnake stonte
flat vapor
oddly enough MM can make doomstone easier, since it has the turret in the middle
flat vapor
non-MM doomstone is just a big room
fading gazelle
Still
sgg should spice up MM Doomstone
That'd be nice
Cause he looks super cool
rough token
Oh yeah, I should actually see what the new minibosses look like without MM, I turned it on before the update and haven't turned it off xD
rough token
Ooh, does it affect || Charon ||?
rough token
Aight
narrow hemlock
counted as a boss and not a miniboss/elite, yes
rough token
Still, I think I'll do a 0-heat run just to get a feel for the base game xD
Because like, 5 heat wasn't much of a difference, Just a bit harder
But 12 is a noticeable difference
fading gazelle
32 is an interesting difference
rough token
XD Yeah, I remember that from the 36 I ran a month or so ago, died to the Heroes
gusty slate
Only on 15/16 heat here lul, 32 going to be a tough cookie
fading gazelle
I just died in Tartarus so many times until I found a good set of punishments
All the Best!
rough token
Yeah, for the most part I'm sticking to 12 rn
Once I'm solid there I'll bump it up to 20 or so
floral shore
After pushing bounties for a long time I've found it to be quite relaxing to just go down to like 5 heat, farm some darkness and just absolutely destroy the jerks. It's carthatic.
narrow hemlock
sometimes having fun is just relaxing and being overly powerful
gusty slate
Do the bounties cap at a certain heat?
narrow hemlock
20
fading gazelle
Yes 20
gusty slate
Mhm, gotta get 20 on all weapons first then for me
fading gazelle
That gives about a maximum of 252 Titan blood from the bounties alone if my math is correct
gusty slate
Sounds about right, want to max all the aspects
narrow hemlock
its not enough to max everything from bounties alone though
gusty slate
Well of course, on the way there I'll pray dealer has 15 key for blood deals xD
Always a pleasant surprise after dying stupidly
fading gazelle
its not enough to max everything from bounties alone though
Is it not?
narrow hemlock
p sure its not
fading gazelle
Its about 242 titan blood to max out all aspects if I'm not wrong
past mirage
The total (including the not-yet-released fourth fist) comes up as 306.
narrow hemlock
lmao
flat vapor
basically we need more blood
past mirage
Prophecies give a decent amount, 26 if I recall it correctly. The rest has to be procured by other means.
floral shore
Don't forget you also get a chunk from prophecies, and you get more ambrosia than you need from bounties and prophecies.
narrow hemlock
just use the broker like the rest of us that arent gonna climb high heat for one reason or another :v
fading gazelle
Lol fair
floral shore
I mentioned this a bit earlier but I didn't fully complete the bounties and still fairly comfortably managed to get more than enough blood and ambrosia for all there is to do with it.
And I didn't buy from Styx shop once.
floral shore
No, for the blood mostly trading up Ambrosia, don't underestimate the metric ton of Ambrosia from the prophecies. You get so much.
Broker gave me like... four blood-for-keys deals or so total?
floral shore
I completed most of the bounties though. Missing one on the rail, two on the sword and four each on bow and spear.
fading gazelle
So just shield is maxed
floral shore
Fists too.
rough token
Don't think so
floral shore
Fists will get another aspect at 1.0, otherwise no further weapons.
gusty slate
Mhm okie dokie
fading gazelle
I made a tier list for the infernal arms and its aspects
https://tiermaker.com/list/video-games/the-infernal-arms-of-hades-478093/689872
Please don't murder me because of my opinion
rough token
Is that Chiron in D tier or have my eyes stopped working? :p
(it's quite possibly the latter, by the way)
fading gazelle
Nope your eyes be good
fading gazelle
Why so?
flat vapor
in terms of gameplay and general fun i have
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/187458596559257600/727617694798708866/aspects_gameplay_wise.png
rough token
Chiron has really high single-target damage and doesn't require perfect aim
vagrant hinge
hello sorry i'm new n i don't wanna intrude on any conversation but y'all keep sayin "high heat" n stuff n i don't know what that means? have i jus not played far enough yet or is that like a pro gamer term?
flat vapor
heat is a difficulty system you'll unlock later
rough token
It's a term for something after you beat the final boss
fading gazelle
Anyways
rough token
Hahaha
fading gazelle
Back to the topic at hand
I mean comparing to the other aspects, Chiron is really bland man
That auto aim ain't that cool after you try out Hera or Rama
rough token
Haven't tried Hera yet so that's fair, I'll a bit split on Rama. I can't get the special do really work, unless they've fixed the dash bug with it
flat vapor
okay but what's your design tier list?
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/187458596559257600/727618408362934342/unknown.png
rough token
Where you dash in the direction of aim, instead of input
flat vapor
eris is ugly π
fading gazelle
Absolutely
flat vapor
L---- SLAPS though
fading gazelle
YUP
Totally
Super cool
Hestia and Eris don't compare on how fun Lebron James and Zagrues aspect are
flat vapor
patch notes π
fading gazelle
LESSGOOOOOoo
flat vapor
spear changes?!
rough token
Ohhhh snap
flat vapor
LET'S GOOOO
flat vapor
rip chaos ruin π
fading gazelle
spear changes?!
Guess I gotta rethink that tier list
rough token
More chaos fishes!!!
fading gazelle
What did Ruin do?
wind nest
So does anybody know what the chaos drop rate is now?
sage marten
Higher than before
signal goblet
Still nothing about Tight Deadline/Styx.
fading gazelle
But yeah not 3 cycling on Styx is essentially a dead run
vocal thorn
The Elysium TD question, from the recent Q&A session got ignored too. It's not a priority.
fading gazelle
gusty slate
Hm, haven't tried using TD lol. Kicks in my anxiety
fading gazelle
I got used to it early
vocal thorn
But I guess they felt the need to make it even more difficult for controller users to hit the urns with ranged combat, because they removed all the auto-aim from them??
sharp parcel
the issue was that the AA would auto-lock on em when they spawned
sharp parcel
there's nothing stopping you from blasting em yourself
fading gazelle
vocal thorn
Except if the boss is somewhat near the urn, and the boss auto aim overrides my attempts to hit the urns from ranged
sharp parcel
utility > looks
fading gazelle
Yo my boy Lebron James got Both
sharp parcel
I used to run Eris a lot but time has shown that extra bullets beat gimmicky buffs
flat vapor
rail has better designs, like zagspect or L----
cold hinge
currently nothing I have is upgraded so having some buff is better than straight nothing
flat vapor
hestia is.... ok
fading gazelle
ITS SO NORMAL
sharp parcel
I know some people like Hestia, I don't
gusty slate
I pray for shotgun rail with hestia
vocal thorn
It my most used, since it doesn't need as many in-game upgrades
fading gazelle
More ammo is much better
flat vapor
hestia isn't like ugly but it's...
gusty slate
It's a bit awkward for me
sharp parcel
Hestia doesn't need any boons or upgrades
past mirage
An independent goddess who don't need no man
tardy tendon
Hey guys, it seens i have already all the requisits to get the Rama aspect, but for some reason i'm not being able to get it, can someone help me?
gusty slate
May take some time to get through required dialogue, also RNG
Took me many failed attempts to get Excal because of required dialogue lol
As an example
tardy tendon
wow, i see, thanks
gusty slate
If only I could bribe the keywords out of them with ambrosia
Although that would then infer that I get them so drunk they have their visions
tardy tendon
that would be both funy as also nice
gusty slate
"Hey Achilles, here's 3 ambrosia.... want to have a drink?"
Although. Everyone in the game can really hold their alcohol...so probably won't work
rough token
@torpid walrus (from #hades-feedback ) I don't think sarcasm is going to help get your point across, I had to read that a couple times to understand it. And if it wasn't sarcasm, then I'm even more confused
Sarcasm has it's place, but I don't think it belongs in feedback
quaint bramble
It was lol, OP was throwing shade at the style of balancing SGG has gone with. I agree with OP that some past decisions have been dubious but itβs an iterative process. The game still has many months and many patches until it ships.
torpid walrus
Tbh this has been the style of balancing for everything so far. A boon is overpowered in one particular scenario? Let's nerf it across the board to make it okay in that scenario, even if that boon starts being terrible in all other cases.
Also, sorry you got confused swan dragon
rough token
o7
lost jasper
does hermes attack boon stack with gun's secret aspect?
rough token
It should
lost jasper
its not very clear from gameplay thats why im asking
gusty slate
Faster ticks?
gusty slate
Oh it might build up faster
lost jasper
it doesnt build up with infinite chamber
crimson canopy
More chaos fish thank god! I think I've seen like 2 and the first one was from the fishing patch where everybody got the (at the time) new legendary Poseidon boon pretty much automatically
gusty slate
Chaos fish no existo π¦
lost jasper
and i think it wouldn't affect ticks directly
crimson canopy
10% might be hard to notice
vague zinc
How does the reward from chaos fish change though? No more titan blood, diamonds, etc?
worldly sierra
@torpid walrus you may be unaware, but they already nerfed Zeus lightning proc rate to 5x per 1s.
If they reduce it further, it loses value. The only solution is to reduce the weapon aspect abilities
Prior to the lightning nerf you should have seen that thing go.
vagrant flint
Where can I find portraits' files in the game folder?
torpid walrus
I've used it post beta nerf and it still machine gunned everything to death in seconds on a level far above any other god special, which were far from nerf worthy, clearly the answer was to address the Zeus special instead of making the other gods worse for no reason.
brisk trail
buff sword when π¦
gusty slate
?
worldly sierra
There were more issues with other god boons on that weapon than just Zeus
inland shell
In the noclip docs, the devs say they all play Hades once a week. Anyone know what day that usually is on?
subtle sedge
is splitting bolt supposed to proc on sea storm?
inland shell
it does say "Any lightning effects"
subtle sedge
just wondering because in a run i had recently it didn't proc on my poseidon attack
inland shell
no sure, might not since its indirect or might be an inconsistency bug. make it on the feedback channel
inland shell
a link to imgur seems fine as long as its in the right channel and appropriate
eternal crow
subtle sedge
chaos isn't an olympian
inland shell
post in the feedback channel with a description. that too^
eternal crow
Hades wiki has listed Chaos as an olympian
inland shell
they are Chthonic
subtle sedge
hades wiki is wack, but if you take that family favorite at face value, in the mythology the olympians are just those 12 slingers
rough token
Nope
inland shell
Chaos is the progenitor~~father ~~to all
subtle sedge
zeus, posideon, dionysus.. etc
rough token
Chaos is the progenitor (genderless)
past mirage
Are there several wikis out there? Because the gamepedia wiki has solid info.
It isn't up to snuff yet after all those patches, though.
inland shell
Takes time
depends on contributors, i updated some of the fist stuff recently
@rough token you seem very active, mind if i get your feedback on something Hades related?
rough token
Sure
inland shell
thanks, ill msg you a bit later after I polish what I want to share
rough token
Sure. Can't promise a quick response, I'm gonna be doing some work later, but I'll check it out when I get a chance o7
eternal crow
hey, how many in-game hours do you have in Hades
zealous timber
@torpid walrus the developers of the game, of which I am one, read every line of feedback entered into the channel. Can you clarify your feedback? Did you try the changes pushed recently and found some aspect of them falling short?
The autolock change is not a βnerfβ β it is a usability change.
inland shell
@eternal crow 184hrs for me