Can one of you (or both of you) send me a screenshot of your || Pact of Punishment ||? I want to give it a try, cold, and see how far I get 😂 for...fun?
#h1-discussion
high island
Which one? You mean my 41 clear? Or like what I've been trying today?
manic bobcat
Don't have access to my gaming PC rn, I'm technically at work (albeit from home)
rough token
Whichever
warm cliff
People have cleared max heat right? That's a thing that's possible?
manic bobcat
Not yet
All of the current high heat runs are recorded here. Credits to Krashercorr
Highest rn is 50 49 which is a screenshot though.
warm cliff
Looks like fists are underpowered. Is that the general consensus?
merry harbor
Far from it, they're scary
vale kite
they're not but given how the pact is theyre dangerous to use in high heat
high island
The Twin Fists are the newest weapon.
Before resqtoaster and me, no one had really tried any high heat runs with Malphon yet.
charred bronze
anyone have those "maybe i should just start all over" moments?
vale kite
i only tried a 32 heat run with the fists once but i died against the final boss
high island
Well, resqtoaster was the first. I only tried and did 41 after I saw he did 40. He's working on 49 now.
merry harbor
If I take an early hit in Tartarus on high heat I usually just reset, but that's about it.
charred bronze
i have to say, if the first run of the game was with the bow instead of the sword it could probably reach elysium very easily
high island
If I take an early hit in Tartarus on high heat I usually just reset, but that's about it.
I wouldn't do that. I actually took a hefty 40 damage within 4 seconds of my 41-heat run lol.
Still turned out to be the one where I made it.
Those ||Slugger|| Wretched Thugs don't mess around.
warm spindle
Hello everyone. Somebody knows if there's a more precise date for the next update?
merry harbor
Yeah, I'm just super not confident on being able to carry a run like that through. It's not GREAT practisse, I admit.
fringe osprey
There is no precise date beyond June
merry harbor
and nope, still just "in June"!
fringe osprey
Keep an eye on the announcements channel!
warm spindle
Okay thanks. New weapon announced?
void vigil
nope, there arent going to be any new weapons
lone jay
Hello, any way to transfer my game from EPIC to Steam? or do I have to purchase it on Steam again?
warm spindle
Okay thanks for the infos
void vigil
youll have to purchase the game again, but the saves will automatically transfer since the game saves in the same place
lone jay
damn ok thanks!
warm spindle
Do you think next update will be the last one before official release 1.0?
void vigil
honestly i bought the game twice, i played so much that i didnt mind lol, and i wanted to have all the games on steam
hmm, no way to tell 
but im really excited for the full release
warm spindle
Yeah me too. Anyway thanks again!
sage nova
I'm getting impatient.
void vigil
i just got back into playing after a while and i just caught up on a ton of content, and im sure theres more from the last update i havent seen
sage nova
Week into June and no real info on the update
narrow hemlock
have patience friend
void vigil
im trying not to burn out now before the update drops
narrow hemlock
honestly? best thing to do if update impatience is eating at you is simply finding something else to do and get your mind off it. new game, maybe even an old one you got forever ago and never got around to, a series you've been meaning to watch, anything!
helps make the time go by faster
void vigil
im sure supergiant is working hard on the update, and we already know broadly what's going to be in it from teasers and such and the roadmap
high island
There are hundreds of builds and strategies you still haven't tried in this version of the game. No need to be impatient. 
floral shore
I'm starting to think that developers should never, ever announce anything as a company policy.
narrow hemlock
some people may burn out, as alma mentioned 😅 I've set the game aside for the last month precisely because I didn't want to burn out on it waiting for the update
floral shore
"We plan to" gets interpreted very often as "we absolutely pinky promise and may you punch us in the willy if it doesn't!".
Plus apparently "June" means "definite due day by June 1st or the willy thing again".
Man, I sound like a cranky old dude.
narrow hemlock
I mean it's not inherently wrong but that's just a thing in general
high island
At least it's not like Street Fighter V where what feels like 95% of the new stuff gets leaked before the devs even get a chance to announce an announcement lol.
floral shore
I played Warframe for a long, long time and the amount of times where "we plan to do this" has been taken as an absolutely unbreakable promise to massive outcry if it didn't work out for whatever reason has kinda made me jaded.
narrow hemlock
eh I think it also kinda ties in with a sense of entitlement but that's not a topic for here
floral shore
Oh yeah, that's another cranky old man button right there.
cobalt kettle
I just think it's strange that people buy an early access game and get upset that it is under development?
charred bronze
honestly some developers use early access as a way to get money from an unfinish game and get testers in the process, but this game look way better than even finished games already
rough token
^^exactly. And I'm happy to submit bug reports an all of that--I really like being a part of the design process (hence why I'm literally taking classes on it)
elfin root
Came here to say I love Hades.
barren ember
I bought Hades because it came with Pyre on sale, which was a complete game.
I didn't like early access games usually because playing a game before it's done could spoil the experience of playing a truly great finished game for the first time
But Hades is better than a lot of finished games already
elfin root
Yea this is the first Early Access game that has shown me the same thing
barren ember
And this discord is pretty great, due to early access. A whole meta game
novel wasp
Hi
wind nest
In a lot of ways, I think hades is allready a bigger game than pyre
elfin root
I havent played any of the others yet.
Well...Transistor I played for about 15 mins a while back..
Enjoyed it but my ADHD kicked in
Yea but beyond on the cool mechanics of the game, the witty writing, and art style, I find myself just sitting and singing harmonies to the songs while playing a phone game.
north nymph
So when the full game is released, will it update along with my saves or will I have to start anew
merry harbor
There is no plan to clear saves on launch.
wind nest
It was update
In fact, there's a bit of lua code in the scripts section that is all about taking older saves and updating them to the existing system
charred bronze
do poseidon can say anything without making a water pun?
rough token
why should he?
elfin root
Agreed. I love the personality.
novel wasp
How dare you stop the ocean man being the ocean man
elfin root
Its like making aquaman look like a viking
charred bronze
he is like the fun awkard uncle
i do like him more than zeus being kinda almighty
barren ember
He'll make you understand
formal vault
Literally checking the announcements tab 10 times a day since the last announcement 🙂 I'm having so much fun 🙂
rough token
that sounds like you should find something else to do so you don't get impatient 🙂
merry harbor
They do tend to @ everyone when there is an annoucement, so you can save yourelf the hassle.
narrow hemlock
there will be a notif when something new is posted to announcements, no need to check! unless you have it muted
narrow hemlock
They will often also cross post to twitter if you have tweet alerts on for them
formal vault
Now you mentioned it brb going to follow their page
flat vapor
is it too early for "update when"
formal vault
I really don't think so
formal vault
i mean
rough token
I'm teasing, dw
formal vault
DON'T TEASE US LIKE THAT
flat vapor
it's been too long since the last "update when" spam
rough token
like in-game challenges
narrow hemlock
looks at how many mods are on
rough token
7
rough token
how many obol are you betting?
manic bobcat
looks at how many mods are on
No Aggy no Peach
sullen holly
how do you get to comment in the feedback?
flat vapor
read the pins in that channel!
narrow hemlock
who puts out updates on sundays....
rough token
lmao
limpid crown
MY DAY OFF ;-;
narrow hemlock
it was weird enough terraria did 1.4 on a saturday, like who does that
manic bobcat
June 16th. Not official, I dreamt it so it must be true. AMA.
narrow hemlock
dunno about that date specifically but i feel like next week is a good spot
fingers crossed
remember each day without news of the update is still one day closer to the update
sullen holly
@flat vapor thx!
trim surge
spring knoll
is there a way to see which weapons you've used for the bosses for the purposes of getting more titan blood, diamonds, etc?
rough token
I know there is a way once you've cleared the final boss
north nymph
yes go into the contract with said weapon and depending on the heat it will show you what you are at
wind nest
Last one was on the 2nd tuesday of the month so that's why i'm crossing fingers for this week
novel wasp
Update asker gang
deep pivot
And so, the numbers raise to Impa 
neon stag
There is suppose to be a June update soon, right?
deep pivot
Yes! No specific date has been revealed yet
neon stag
I'm excited for it, been playing a lot recently :D
I'll sit back and wait
deep pivot
Aw, that's so patient of you 😊
high island
Why do they always ask all on the same day? Do they gather in groups before they enter the gates? 
rough token
Nyaa, people are asking every day
remote lily
They can only ask when there is fullmoon day
narrow hemlock
discord needs a way to pin a banner to the top of a channel. like pins but a singular one that stays visible 😂
rough token
you must be patient with the impatient, for otherwise they shall learn no better
neon stag
That'd be really nice tatz
warm cliff
When is the update? :^)
deep pivot
Well, #announcements is not a channel frequently visited unless our Lord and Saviour Greg makes a ping 
neon stag
June was yesterday, could of have been then?
warm cliff
But when is the update? Just because nobody asked in the last 60 seconds I thought I'd check
deep pivot
Jokes aside, do try to not make it look like spam 😅
warm cliff
Okay this wasn't as funny as I thought it was. Apologies.
deep pivot
No worries! It gave me a chuckle when you did it the 2nd time
warm cliff
Aim to please 😅
rough token
just don't miss
deep pivot
I'm giving you all a huuuge hug to calm your nerves and anxiousness 
void vigil
seriously tho, supergiant are working on the update, and itll be ready (this month) when its ready
deep pivot
Taking into account how they pour their hearts into their work, waiting is better than rushing it
buoyant shard
I’m obsessively checking this discord every day
void vigil
they havent missed a deadline with the updates even once, and if it was delayed it wouldve probably been announced already, though caitlin said theyre on schedule for this month. there just isnt a date yet
buoyant shard
I think I have a problem
void vigil
a surprise update with no date would be funny
rough token
that would
buoyant shard
That would be awesome
I’d love to open steam and it’s just there
Early Christmas present
novel wasp
whenever update is close
i will reopen the update asker gang registry
so people can join the gang
still tiger
a surprise update with no date would be funny
Seems like a good april fools day trick to me, if the timing had worked out
barren ember
One day, just one day, I would like to meet up with Theseus and Asterius back at the house
And split a nectar with them
I bet theseus would be hella entertaining out of his element
And Asterius would seem too big to be allowed
worthy egret
Keeeeep it clean and pg 13
rough token
That...may not be appropriate for this server
ivory mortar
lol
half the fun is the mature content in greek gods
sooooo wack
"yeah lets make kids idolize people who shouldnt because we fail to show the dark side"
thats like making a hitler game and not showing the holocaust
rough token
not in the slightest
rough token
I'm saying that's not a valid comparison
ivory mortar
They glorify themselves
theyre gods
they dont need to be
they need reason to be NOT glorified
they just want the kid money
thats all
im just messing ofc
void vigil
hey, regardless of the content in the game, you should keep in mind the rules of the server. you can read them again in #readme-first, but keep it clean.
rough token
uh-huh
ivory mortar
Im bored but its not untrue
rough token
y'know, if you're always "messing," it's gonna be pretty hard to know when you're serious
rough token
🤨
void vigil
hey, please keep it civil.
barren ember
I wish bouldy had an entry in the codex
daring hull
mood
narrow hemlock
zag, waving the codex: sir, this is inaccurate
achilles: lad, wha--
zag: bouldy
achilles:
zag: bouldy isn't in here
achilles: who
daring hull
yes.
i want that interaction actually
bouldy is the secret fourth romance ahhdgshd
sour dust
i also want achilles to have a comment on giving bouldy nectar
like imagine achilles tried pouring nectar on them once and suddenly he feels like he can run slightly faster
cobalt dawn
Heya, all
Just joined, to say, that ín my mind, the boardgame, that is unplayable in Zag's chambers, IS Pyre. haha... I know it probably isn't, but I think of it and smile every time I dash through the Bedroom.
placid dagger
any rumors on the next update? 
narrow hemlock
no
charred bronze
would say
manic bobcat
Yeah in general yes.
granite ether
Yes
humble quarry
new aspects is the thing im looking forward the most!
charred bronze
i wonder what the bow aspect would be
uncut nimbus
How about a bow that the longer that you hold down the button the more arrows it loads and then when you release it it fires all of the arrows at once? Maybe to offset the power that something like that could bring to the table it could take longer to load each consecutive Arrow than it did for the previous Arrow
Edit... Got the idea from seeing 1000 needle attack by Cactuar from Final Fantasy lol
nimble ocean
question.. sometimes when Zag leaves Tartarus, Hades says "Tread lightly, boy", and Zag answers "Don't know any other way."
i'm pretty sure Zag means, that he can't do it using another method of treading.. and he didn't mean, that he knows nothing about other paths
need clarification
jolly lodge
you fight ||hades (the dad)|| even though ||hades (the dad)|| left after you/zagreus did, so there should be multiple paths
(though that conversation just means "Be careful" and "I'm always careful," not hinting at other paths)
nimble ocean
yeah.. the question is, what meaning does word "way" have here.. "method" or "path"
nimble ocean
i'm interested, bc seems like i've maybe found a translation error, but it's early to report without full clarification
in the translated version it's the second meaning only
vast junco
yeah i'm pretty sure it's intended to only mean "way" of treading
for original intent
jolly lodge
oh, which language is it?
nimble ocean
erm.. alright, it's russian
jolly lodge
you can also f10 it
nimble ocean
well, yes, thanks.. i'll let them know
vast junco
f10 is more specifically for ingame bugs with the game not acting as it should. a slight translation error isn't exactly a bug in that way since the text is displayed as planned, but just doesn't read quite right in this case to someone fluent in the translated language
jolly lodge
it works for language issues as well, and the context of the screenshot may help
QA can copy-paste the language bugs to the community translators
still, mentioning it in hades-localization with a screenshot would be better than f10, that is true
nimble ocean
shame that i haven't taken a screenshot.. that was too quick, and my brain was too slow
jolly lodge
don't worry, and thanks for bringing it up
sharp parcel
a day closer to senior Charon!
jolly lodge
I wonder what kind of personality Charon might get if his stories get updates
alpine silo
Do we know anything about the next big patch?
narrow hemlock
low fiber
i just realized aspects is plural
terse geyser
this is scary
narrow hemlock
its listed at the end of the nighty night trailer
low fiber
after all this time
granite ether
I didn't play the game much before the current patch so no 😛
narrow hemlock
aw man dont you want to hear zag go who's getting punched
jolly lodge
next please give us combat boots and have zag kick his opponents
rough token
For the rail, of course
jolly lodge
jesus aspect: nail gun apocalypse
rough token
jolly lodge
if we get a christian set I want Eve aspect on the twin fists
novel wasp
@rough token that looks beautiful
rough token
It is, just search Bible 2 and it'll pop up
This is why I keep saying Jesus Aspect for the Rail 😂
cobalt kettle
Oh I thought that was just the generic "update coming" text, that's actually what is planned to ship with the next update?
narrow hemlock
the gyazo link?
fringe mortar
new boons? does that mean a new god?
lusty stump
unsure about that since they said there won't be any new gods
fringe mortar
maybe new boons from an existing god, that didn't give boons before? like Nyx?
granite ether
I don't think Nyx giving boons would make much sense
but we'll have to wait and see ^_^
warm cliff
Hades boons :^)
granite ether
and instead on benefits they're actually detriments 👀
warm cliff
It's almost like the ||Pact of Punishment|| :o
viral rover
I'm willing to bet on new boons for the existing gods, I'd like to see at least one duo boon for each god pair even if some duo boons aren't possible with certain mirror talents
hearty torrent
or poseidon athena
signal anvil
Finally beat the game and LOVE it. One of the best I've played in a few years. I wish there was a way to track Fated List prophecies and maybe an icon for Boons to see which God it belongs to.
sage marten
prophecies are easy to track, just check the desk
an ingame boon guide would be nice though
void vigil
The identity of the final boss is a spoiler in this channel, please edit your message and add a spoiler tag!
hearty torrent
god boons are generally trackable to whom they are from by color. But yes, i also would prefer a mid-run way to check the list, especially for tracking my boon progression on tier2/tier3.
signal anvil
Sorry, prophecies to track while doing a run*
void vigil
You can do so by adding ||these||before the spoiler
signal anvil
Ahhhhh
void vigil
Also, you can get permission to leave feedback in #hades-feedback by checking the pins if you’d like!
signal anvil
Cheers, will do then!
winter river
||I still find it kinda funny we're so hush hush about Lord Hades being the final boss. It was a pretty obvious choice.||
manic bobcat
||yeah I have been saying since day 1 haha||
void vigil
still, it’s the final boss, and some people who come to this channel haven’t played the game and may just want to ask a question - don’t wanna spoil it for them by mistake
manic bobcat
||to be clear, I respect the rule and have personally reminded people to mask.that spoiler, but it's funny nonetheless||
winter river
Ya, I'm not about to go all maverick "I'm gonna spoil this cause I have personally decided for all of you what you should care about spoilers for." I'm not a jerk. Its just something that feels a little silly.
Idk, I just don't get spoiler culture in general. It feels like it mostly exists to make people see badly written Marvel movies in opening week.
Anyhow, back to topic.
void vigil
It’s mostly due to the nature of an early access game, if I had to guess. A lot of people who are waiting for the full release and want to experience everything for themselves, not be spoiled on it, and that’s fair
signal anvil
Will progress be reset once Early Access is concluded?
void vigil
Nope
hearty torrent
Sometimes people want to be able to experience that initial shock from a reveal for themselves, and hearing about it beforehand from others kills their experience with the story/game.
merry harbor
As the FAQ says, there is no plan to reset progress and they're working to keep saves from breaking throughout development./
signal anvil
Glad I jumped on a week ago then haha
void vigil
You can read more in #hades-faq, I just can’t copy it over since I’m on mobile :P sorry!
onyx harbor
I don't think Nyx giving boons would make much sense
@granite ether the only thing she can offer is a nice bougatsa (a nice greek dessert) at night 🙂 (greeks usually eat very late) hehe. iam getting hungry -
sage marten
lmao the reactions are going up at the speed of light
vale kite
oh it's here
lusty stump
Aay
hearty torrent
ayyyy
warm cliff
Pog
sage marten
my curiosity won't spare me
time to spoil myself early by playing the beta 
mossy hamlet
sage marten
aye
might wanna do a backup of your saves though
lusty stump
and make sure to back up save files yeah just in case.
fair sparrow
That's some 
feature
patent topaz
YOO WHAT
fair sparrow
Over-hyped right now
chilly stump
Please check the #test-branch-readme and discuss it in #beta-discussion-june20 folks!
patent topaz
ok didn't expect that i was just,, vibing and then BAM BETA
fair sparrow
Yup
patent topaz
i did don't worry will consider downloading the beta Caitlin!
devout plinth
Are we gonna bring back the regular hades feedback once the update drops? 😁
zealous timber
@devout plinth Yes -- we will bring it back. We've made many changes based on the #hades-feedback on The Nighty Night Update and want to make sure the feedback keeps that in mind.
stark agate
do you have to buy the steam vversion if you own the Epic STORE verion?
narrow hemlock
oh worm? cant wait to see what feedback was considered, exciting
brisk trail
To participate in the open beta, yes.
But the full game is still releasing on the EGS.
When Blood Price goes fully live it will go live for every version simultaneously.
wooden quartz
Blood price isn't the full release, is it?
wooden quartz
It's no problem I just wanted to make sure
patent topaz
oh god oh god the spoilers oh my god do i really have to log off the discord for a week?
opaque nexus
have not played this game in a very very long time and I'm hearing that there is a lot of stuff coming in the next update
compact copper
That sad moment they release the technical beta but i still have a lot of exams :c
opaque nexus
I'm not going to play the beta
void vigil
you can just mute the hades beta category if you dont want spoilers!
patent topaz
omg alma you're a saint thank you
hexed smelt
right click on the HADES BETA text on the left and select "mute category", and then left click it to collapse the category
patent topaz
thank you so much, i usually always spoil myself but i don't want to do that this time
sterile trail
finally i got first kill on God of Dead after 2 days, on complete blind play 0 youtuber watching.
brisk trail
Talking about that is off-topic, this isn't helping.
haughty raptor
new beta new beta woowoowoowowoowwowooooo
patent topaz
i don't know how to help, i'm not a mod, that's why i said it so maybe some mods can calm down everyone there? I'm not writing anything in that hell hole for now
i just want my fluffy animals back
ok maybe it's over
barren ember
Is it just me or is keys for nectar a better deal than the keys for gems special
unless you have no use for diamonds
viral rover
Is this beta purely technical/under-the-hood changes? Or does it include gameplay changes like boons as well?
vale drift
Von_Raptor, the beta contains a lot of the content for our next Major Update, since it's all in the same 'branch' we work in. However, the focus of the beta is definitely on performance / stability.
We're still working on many aspects of the content and tend to work down to the wire on that stuff right up to our Major Update launch dates. We don't have an official launch date for this one yet as it partly depends on how this beta pans out.
viral rover
Thanks for the answer! I figured it was focused more on the technical aspects but was curious if the new stuff was in or just waiting for the all clear on the nuts-and-bolts matters. Unfortunately I won't be able to take part in the beta but I can wait for it to be ready for all. Fingers crossed it all works like it should and nothing holds it up
tough shell
any chance for local co-op?
hexed smelt
Is Hades a multiplayer game, or are there any plans for multiplayer? Hades is a single-player game. We have no plans to add multiplayer, as we have been building the design and narrative of Hades with a solo experience in mind.
@stark agate beta content = #beta-discussion-june20
stark agate
oh sorry didn´t know
acoustic ledge
are there any artist who draw in a similar style to the hades art style?
barren ember
@acoustic ledge I'd suggest checking out #fan-works , some things there are phenomenal
acoustic ledge
thx
trail hazel
Is there a way to play Hades on steam (i have bought it on epic games, but prefer steam. it was not on steam at the time i bought it)
flat vapor
there’s a steam version! it should sync with the same save as your epic games folder
brisk trail
You have to purchase a new copy, unfortunately.
trail hazel
if i buy it on steam, any way to transfer my progress?
chilly stump
Your progress should transfer automatically, it will pull from the save files already on your computer. 👍
trail hazel
thanks
dull needle
chilly stump
Hey @dull needle, instructions are in the pins in #hades-feedback 👍
gloomy scaffold
Technically speaking if Zagreus were to dip his feet into a cauldron would it cook by the heat?
sage nova
It's rather disappointing that they give the beta only to the steam version
The game was in Epic way before steam
gloomy scaffold
I mean, does Epic have the necessary setup to have different versions of the same game?
They'd have to implement the ability to change versions/access beta
Since this Beta isn't an update per-se, an optional instance
For the time being that is
sage nova
Don't know. I just know that the most early supporters of this project get their hands on this new content last
gloomy scaffold
Well the issue you have seems like something that has to do with the launcher itself and not Supergiant limiting Beta to Steam
sharp parcel
it's a beta, with its issues and everything that entails
viral rover
This isn't really "new content" as such, it's designed for making sure the update functions because they're trying to optimise it. There's only barebones patch notes. It's not a race to get the new toys first, and no storefront is entitled to get it before any other, just a matter of not being able to get it in the EGS yet but they're still trying to
dusty mica
Same, I suddenly realized the beta was only on Steam and 😢
(but anyway, people will betatest it, that's what matters!)
brisk trail
If you have Hades on Steam you can opt-in to the technical beta of the Blood Price Update.
They're working on an EGS version.
patent topaz
Yeah we get to see some new things and they recieve feedback for the new code and also eventual new bugs
dusty mica
what is going on?
@wind nest It's on the #test-branch-readme and others channels
worldly sierra
Is there a way to access the technical beta from the epic store?
rough token
currently no
worldly sierra
:(
rough token
yeah :/
something about the epic launcher not supporting multiple versions? I'm not sure
worldly sierra
So, even if I bring it into my steam library I can't access it then, eh?
rough token
I think you'd need to buy the game through steam to access the beta on steam
hearty torrent
seems to be the case yes
personally i'm not sure if EGS and Steam files are compatible
worldly sierra
That's too bad, since I have an AMD GPU and I want to give feedback on it
I just tried, no dice
barren ember
I think they're working on a way to get the tech beta on egs, last I heard
worldly sierra
I almost want to buy it again, lol
rough token
halfway done with the update
hearty torrent
Yeah, it's just a fault of EGS unfortunately. While it's allowed SGG to build up Hades before presenting some polish to the world on Steam in Early Access, it doesn't seem to have beta version support for things like the current tech beta. Greg or Caitlin mentioned that they would try to work out beta access on EGS over in #off-topic-discussion I believe.
worldly sierra
They could just put up the tech beta only to alleviate the issue I guess
But they probably don't want that
rough token
yeah, because some people wouldn't want to play the tech beta (which makes sense)
hearty torrent
Also given the experimental nature of tech betas, which they highlight by asking beta-testers to back-up their save data, it would be a disaster if they released it as an update that inadvertently corrupted people's save files.
worldly sierra
Epic store has cloud save, it shouldn't be an issue there
But I hear ya
I think I might just buy it again on steam, supports a game studio I truly respect anyway
Save games have always been compatible
hearty torrent
ah, yes. the save files work between them yeah. but the core game files i'm not sure of, and it seems manthro couldn't just port them between platforms
worldly sierra
Since they are local and cloud based
rough token
So, what would happen is you can add "Hades" (the program) to your Steam Library, after getting it from the Epic Launcher. However, it still wouldn't be a "Steam Game" so you wouldn't have access to updates through Steam
worldly sierra
You can add non steam games to your library to launch them from steam, but EGS and steam have different DRM, so no, since there is no record of me buying Hades on steam, I can't tap the beta
hidden kindle
ah! yes, i dont think the beta could be ported between versions in that sense
but at least your save file will still work
worldly sierra
I mean, even my library page just says "Hades" with no link to community hub or store page for that reason
brisk trail
Hello I joined the Beta Today, and I would have liked to offer feedback, I'm not allowed to offer feedback in the beta-feedback so I let you know here. Greetings Gregor
Such a blast (-:
Never had such an entertaining Bowround.
rough token
@brisk trail read the pins in #hades-feedback for information on how to post in it
o7
brisk trail
(-: thanks
hearty torrent
should probably remove the link too btw
brisk trail
IT would be nice if it can stay on my steamprofile. And I keep things unhidden on it, overall, if that's not an issue I'd like keeping it that way, though I'm aware most of these pictures could be subject to change within time to their description an function. Still a Shocking experience what a joy that bow is!
hearty torrent
as a non-beta chat, people might not want spoilers on the Blood Price update which the screenshot provides. the link to the steam file on here is what i meant should be deleted.
deep pivot
As a general reminder, please do NOT post anything related to the Hades Tech Beta in this channel or in other channels outside the ones dedicated to the tech beta, be it information, links, pictures, etc.
manic bobcat
Poor peach had to edit that 3 times xD
deep pivot
(Please don't make me work overtime, thank you)
hearty torrent
got it in the end though, that's what matters
deep pivot
Should I pin my message? I think it might be worth it (even though Greg explicitly said "Please limit discussions regarding the beta to #beta-discussion-june20 and #beta-technical-issues-june20 only" in the read me 
)
narrow hemlock
pwease pin
hearty torrent
at least until the update releases, probably
manic bobcat
So with that out of the way, can we get back to asking update release date like the last couple of days?
merry harbor
D:
deep pivot
Yes. Please, do not be afraid to inform me or the other mods if people begin spreading any kind of information from the beta outside the beta channels 👍
Foxy, you want pets, right?
hearty torrent
i'd guess like one or two weeks, since "later this month" would indicate late June.
deep pivot
At least, people know that the update is coming soon 👀
hearty torrent
mhm. just went from early June to late June
deep pivot
And not feel like the developer has been ignoring the community 
hearty torrent
at least in my mind
uneven heron
The update is delayed guys. It's gonna be a pre-order bonus for Cyberpunk 2077
narrow hemlock
weeellllll
manic bobcat
June 16th. I will be a god amongst men if it's true.
gusty barn
This question perhaps has been asked a dozen times but will there be any steam achievements?
patent topaz
yes but only after early access
manic bobcat
I can't wait for all of my achievements to roll in at once
high island
@manic bobcat you won't get any. All achievements are for 40+.
Also dogs are not eligible anyway.
manic bobcat
I was excited to see a ping. Turns out to be you...
high island
O~hohohohoho!
manic bobcat
Enjoy dying to TD muahaha
deep pivot
Another traitor! 
solid cosmos
not even gonna post it there since you already saw it
deep pivot
LOL
Well, having read that, I will update my boon trees and duo charts a couple of weeks after the official release of the upcoming update
solid cosmos
thanks 
deep pivot
(Feel free to make some publicity in the beta channels if you want lol)
manic bobcat
I'm right behind you Peach
solid cosmos
i'll be sure to spam it everywhere once it's done, don't worry lol
high island
It's a couple weeks before the update.
manic bobcat
June 16th
Also for the record, I made a prayer to Greg in gameplay channel yesterday
Today this happens
Coincidence?
I think not
solid cosmos
make another prayer to release the update tomorrow
deep pivot
Everyone makes prayers daily
hollow heron
i can't play the beta bc i got the game on epic when it first released 
wind nest
I actually predicted today as the update day and this is basically it
hollow heron
eh it's fine
deep pivot
Not exactly the update day, more like a tech beta release.
granite ether
SG are currently working on a solution for getting the tech beta to work on both egs and stream but no eta on that atm
hollow heron
yeah it's fine either way!
I got to play it for like a year before it was on steam so i basically got a really long beta
deep pivot
If it's any consolation, this all means the major update is drawing near
granite ether
Indeed 
deep pivot
It's 🍌 🐍 ❗
cobalt kettle
The fruit snake cometh
seriously though I find having a beta for an early access game funny
I get it, it does make sense for the situation, but it's funny
like we're already basically playing the beta lol
solid cosmos
next month we'll get an alpha for the beta for the early access for the release patch
granite ether
It's mostly for testing the stability and performance of the update, since a good portion of it was backend work iirc
cobalt kettle
yeah I don't doubt it's function, but it tickles me
granite ether
Ahh, gotcha
ornate dune
That is one thing I wonder about though
If manipulating save files is so easy
In the sense that you can copy safe files
How will achievements work
manic bobcat
Truth is Hades is not the only game whose save files can be easily manipulated
brisk trail
@deep pivot sorry, if I was stress, reading the more information of words would have taken the need of a dedication of time and work , that I haven't found time to , still I wondered for a moent, how I'd could leave first impressions and personal experiences of mine wihtout doing other than thank you for those, If I overstepped, what I was allowed pls accept that as unwillingly done, if Else haver my appreciation, since I'm partwise aware of what I may and I'm thankfull for that, though from what I seam to have read I might have had an missunderstanding thanks for making me aware and accept my appologies and grattitude, thanks.
ornate dune
Since what I was thinking isn't it tehnically possible to download a save file from a friend who has all the achievements and then just open up the save ?
manic bobcat
It's pretty standard how the save file system is implemented afaik
Yes it works exactly like you said
ornate dune
Interesting
I have never tried that on other games honestly
since i just thought it was cheating and probbably wouldnt work
manic bobcat
Games like Isaac FTL Pokemon etc have the same system
I accidentally unlocked 300/300 Isaac achievements by loading a save file
ornate dune
Like I was thinking there was something in the save files tied to your steam account so if the things don't match it doesnt give you the achievements
manic bobcat
It can happen.
cobalt kettle
yeah, saves are like that
ornate dune
Now I am sad
manic bobcat
Yeah. I see your concerns
cobalt kettle
roguelikes with multiple save files especially
ornate dune
I feel like all my hard work into 100% some games has gone to waste
manic bobcat
But it's not a Hades particular thing
ornate dune
I literally suffered through final fantasy X unlocking the entire sphere grid just to get the 100% achievement
I am proud internally atleast
I guess
brisk trail
@deep pivot I realise your response as an understanding. (-:
manic bobcat
GL mate. Enjoy the games!
deep pivot
Oh, yes! I understand
ornate dune
Thanks 🤗
brisk trail
@deep pivot (-: If you find my steamprofile, you can find my momentary top 8 screenshots I was able to made with this "upgrade" ((Imo)Gregors)
deep pivot
With this kind of proceedings, it's important to read the instructions 
brisk trail
(-: I'm so unskilled on Hardware and settings
Might be able to use the new mirrors edge
someone with knowledge be appreciated from my side
the processor might do it
my skills not
Usually I believe in the functionality of autosettings...
cobalt kettle
I've actually managed to nab 303 achievements on isaac
cobalt kettle
Lol
granite ether
#off-topic-discussion please 
brisk trail
*15 seconds, thanks.
finite otter
hola alguien habla español
worldly sierra
Is it on EGS yet?
Is it on EGS yet?
Is it on EGS yet?
Is it on EGS yet?
Is it on EGS yet?
Is it on EGS yet?
Is it on EGS yet?
🤣🤣
😢
Damn... I really wanted to playtest the new code on my Radeon card. Hope you're getting feedback from AMD users
granite ether
No, current estimated ETA for the technical beta being availible on EGS is around june 10
deep pivot
Please, do not spam like that. Thank you.
worldly sierra
Well, that's tomorrow
It was a joke @sleek dome
Come on now, surely you can see that
sleek dome
What?
granite ether
Yes, I can see that. The spam isn't really appreciated though
deep pivot
I know it's a joke but as Aggy said, it's not appreciated when the spam occupies half of the screen.
worldly sierra
Fair enough
cobalt kettle
even if it's a joke, it's still annoying to look at
sleek dome
I think they get it
deep pivot
Why can't I see Bouldy's nose the way it's supposed to be seen? All I see is a O.O expression...
I mean, look at it!
terse geyser
o.o
oh.
hearty torrent
he is surprised
remote lily
Don't you see the smile?
deep pivot
I can see it but if I focus intently on it, and only when it's the big emoji version. Smaller than that, I miss it all the time 😂
I like the O.O expression better, to be honest 
manic bobcat
All I can see is a hollow stare of a bloodless killer.
I always use Bouldy to execute the Furies.
Or the Hydra
Or the cow and the frat boy
deep pivot
That's it? No charges for the last boss?
narrow hemlock
wait do we get 4 or 5 max charges at max lv
me literally ingame rn but dont remember and cant check 😭
manic bobcat
5
narrow hemlock
oh okay then you have 1 charge left tho
manic bobcat
Every companion has 5 charges
Oh I forgot the power couple
It's one of the most satisfying thing to do when you combo the MM couple correctly
Only after deflecting spreader's purple ball back to their silly faces.
manic bobcat
Oh MM is Middle Management
I'm referring to the Power Couple in Asphodel
The Gorgon Head and the Skull Crusher.
narrow hemlock
oh
deep pivot
You meant " "
narrow hemlock
honestly most pact acronyms go over my head bc i dont think of them in that way
no i see the smile i refuse
manic bobcat
Bouldy gives you food
narrow hemlock
wheres the couple
manic bobcat
That he boolied from other enemies
barren ember
They are trying to get you stoned in a matter of speaking
manic bobcat
Bouldy lures enemies to a dark alley to mug them just so he can give the loot to you.
Appreciate Bouldy
barren ember
xxz
barren ember
^that was the controller talking
sterile trail
i just beat the Hades for first time after 2 days of playing. is there any spoiler element i havent after that ?
is it safe to now go youtuber without spoiling ?
knotty marten
your relationships with all the characters evolve over many runs. So if you're worried about spoilers, I'd skip parts where zag talks with people
gods say random stuff about ongoing events when you get their boons, but I don't think it's a big deal
desert karma
Hey guys once you have taken all the darkness neeeded to upgrade the mirror will it accumulate?
Do you can still find it?
Or kind like the game knows and let you find else
void vigil
you will probably still find darkness, but you can trade it away with the broker
desert karma
aw ok thx @void vigil
knotty marten
afaik there's a side quest that needs 8888 darkness at some point
desert karma
thx @knotty marten
I just beated Minotaur and Teseo
I'm always dead when I go to chase the satyrs
I just started 2 days ago
is it possible to finish the game with the basic sword? with not much darkness etc
desert karma
aw cool
safe spade
How am I supposed to get 45 more titan blood before the update with the 4th aspects goes live... The gain rate is so slow...
rough token
Grind and trade. It's a part of progressing through the game ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
thick ledge
just started the game today, about an hour in and i just have to say this games sick
brave thicket
it makes you sick doesnt it
cobalt dawn
Sooo...44 hours in to Hades, 5 successful escapes and many many MANY happy moments strewn about, it's safe to say, I believe, that SGG is at the current pinnacle of their craft. The characters, the story, the plot development, the music, the sound design, the art design, the voice acting, the fekking GAMEPLAY!!
Really outdid themselves. And there's still content rolling our ways... As a species, we did nothing to deserve SGG. No-one has to go this hard for a fanbase. But they're doing just that. They're doing it again for us. I am so overwhelmed.
Also: video game music has no business being this good. Like...who did they sell their souls to??
granite ether
Dunno, you'll have to ask em
barren ember
Somehow I can hear him, but he can't hear me :p
formal saddle
just found out there are things called aspects
where do I go to see/upgrade to them?
barren ember
I believe once you do enough runs to unlock every weapon, Skelly gives a hint about it
granite ether
Have you unlocked all the weapons?
granite ether
Skelly should give you a hint the next time you speak to em
formal saddle
I fast forward through all his dialogue
so I missed it
i did hear him talking about crushing souls in the elysium or something though
barren ember
Take a closer look at the ||shadows where you pick up the weapons|| :)
Probably didn't have to spoiler that lol
formal saddle
you lads mind just giving me an answer
barren ember
Sure.
formal saddle
thanks
barren ember
|| click on the shadows where you pick up the weapons. It uses Titan blood|| :)
granite ether
Do another run first then give it a shot ^_^
formal saddle
frozen warren
does anyone have the golden theseus image?
formal saddle
okay, i will give that a shot
formal saddle
so i just go in there and die right?
formal saddle
ah that worked
granite ether
Pog
formal saddle
much appreciated
granite ether
No worries ^_^
cobalt dawn
Who is the Greek god of music anyway
@barren ember
iirc, then Dionysus is the god of wine, song, and partays.
Basically the god of getting riggitty-riggitty-rekt.
did nyx get a redesign or am I losing my mind
@formal saddle
She did. And she is my new waifu. (In a very respectful and non-objectifying way)
@barren ember sorry, I stand corrected! Apollo IS the god of music. I know Dionysus has to do with festivities overall, so I often get it mixed. I wonder if, and when the actual muses will be added.
lol, Uranus is father to the Titans, while Gaia is their mother.
Looking into Greek mythology, it's so interesting to see SGG put their spin on it all, without being too liberal with it all. Nice to see them stay fairly true to their source, with minor deviations, when it makes sense
Definitely have a VAST pool of material for any DLC xD
barren ember
Dude the stuff about Demeter's parentage in this version has got me all scratchin my head. Hyperion? Can't find that in wikipedia
if I were more Big Brained I bet I could predict stuff having to do with the ending based on this irregularity
patent topaz
it's a titan
barren ember
I can't find anything relating Demeter to Hyperion
patent topaz
yeah they changed that to avoid incest
while i don't think hades is for younger people they have a pretty wide target for their games and just... it's an iffy topic
zag would be born from an uncle/niece couple 👀
frozen warren
@cobalt dawn Apollo is the Greek God of Music, not Dio
barren ember
Yeah probably best to head off stuff like that in the fandom
narrow hemlock
@formal saddle it's actually not a redesign, the hooded portraits were always intended to be temporary placeholder images
barren ember
Ok, so I usually go with Zeus's special on chaos shield, but based on how much fun the push and pull gloves were, I'm going poseidon instead 😄 😛 🌊
cobalt dawn
@frozen warren I already corrected myself there. I keep getting it mixed up, because Dionysus is also the god of parties and festivals (festivals being the word that makes my mind jump to song)
frozen warren
Aah
granite ether
#beta-discussion-june20 @muted cedar
No talk of technical beta content outside the beta channels please
muted cedar
my bad my bad
granite ether
Read the #test-branch-readme channel in full first, it has all the relevent info for the tech beta in there ^_^
brave thicket
there is no full patch notes yet tho, sad
deep pivot
No patch notes because update hasn't hit yet
limpid crown
silently waiting for the epic games beta :')
merry harbor
They're working on it, luckily!
flat vapor
we got it boys
deep pivot
Enjoy 😊
wicked grail
if i start playing the technical beta and the full update gets released, do I lose the progress I have gotten in the technical beta?
sonic dagger
No
deep pivot
This is not the place to be talking about the technical beta. Please, head to #beta-discussion-june20 if you wish to continue.
wicked grail
ah, sorry
covert pier
Hey fellas, just got the game a couple days ago, but can we PLEASE get a feature where we can walk into the pool in the fountain rooms??
I see the shades chilling in there, and I want more than anything else in the game to be able to chill in the pool with them
Maybe Zagreus could use the “shaking off blood” animation that he does when he dies for when he wants out of the pool idk
floral shore
With THESE wretched shades? Blast you boy, you are even more useless than you look. Now make yourself useful around the house.
covert pier
From another perspective, the SHADES get to vibe out but the SON of Hades himself can’t take a nice bath even for a minute
nimble ocean
are there many people, who look for fishing spots in a fountain room in Tartarus?
cobalt dawn
From another perspective, the SHADES get to vibe out but the SON of Hades himself can’t take a nice bath even for a minute
@covert pier can't or won't?
mellow haven
for those who were here early
cobalt dawn
The guy won't even fekking sit down, even though I but him a damn chair!!
mellow haven
which npcs right now used to be the hooded placeholder shade?
I know nyx was one
but when I joined the only placeholders left were nyx and charon
merry harbor
Sisyphus was at one point.
covert pier
@cobalt dawn I desire to rest and recreate in a nice bath with my fellow underworldly residents but the game won’t let me
nimble ocean
same.. i believe Patroclus was hooded..
mellow haven
ah
void vigil
sisyphus, artemis, charon, nyx, patroclus, orpheus off the top of my head, and ares had a wip portrait
hexed smelt
be careful who you make fun of in middle school
narrow hemlock
😳
hexed smelt
patroclus was hooded with a Sick Beard
narrow hemlock
i mean i know they are only side characters and all and it would be a lot of work but still i would love to see models of the olympians 🤧
narrow hemlock
but thats not the goal 😭
frozen warren
I though Persephone is a clone of her mother
frozen warren
They are both goddess of the harvest
void nova
where did hades feedback channel go?
worthy canopy
suggestions maybe?
void nova
that was different origianlly..also locked lol
i guess there's beta-feedback now, seems like that is different tho.
huh, i guess beta-feedback IS the old feedback channel
weird
rough token
that is correct
narrow hemlock
yes the feedback channel got switched to beta feedback for the time being https://gyazo.com/5f05f4f3b6d07b22df3f76d5a1425187
chilly stump
We expect to return the feedback channel to normal after the beta has ended and the update is live. 👍
slender ibex
What's a good way to farm for diamonds without increasing the difficulty really high?
craggy shadow
how do I gain the ability to type in beta feedback? I want to talk about the new aspects
craggy shadow
my bad. i still don't see a way to get permission to type there though
narrow hemlock
thats why we say check the pins. theres a pinned message that tells you how to gain access to the channel
kindred onyx
@worthy canopy why do you want a 100% save?
worthy canopy
because im stupid and i forgot to backup my save when playing beta
deep pivot
@craggy shadow If you want to talk/discuss about new features in the technical beta, it's best to do so in #beta-discussion-june20 rather than #hades-feedback , the latter being mainly to express something towards the developer team regarding your experience
worthy canopy
the game had a bug which i simply cant undo
kindred onyx
Is there an update coming soon?
limpid crown
yes
this month but no release date yet
although you can test it out earlier by participating in the #test-branch-readme
merry harbor
Keep in mind though, this is rough compared to the usual Early Access releases we get, intentionally, because it's lot of technical bugs and less balance passover than usual.
You'll see the new content earlier, but it's unpolished and not the main focus of what's being tested.
kindred onyx
Yeah I'm not gonna test it
faint jackal
Does the beta progress carry to live later?
merry harbor
Yeah, but you should back up your saves regardless.
When both branches merge when it goes live, it Should work, but right now people are having issues with the beta branch reading their stuff at all sometimes.
faint jackal
thanks man 🙂
old tundra
anyone knows what engine Hades uses? Is it some inhouse engine or is it Unity or Unreal?
manic bobcat
I read somewhere that it's in-house engine.
All of their games use the same engine though.
hollow heron
I don't have 12 spare GB so I guess I'm not playing beta lol
patent topaz
i just spoiled myself all the major things... i'm still gonna wait for the more polished less funky version
hollow heron
I haven't spoiled myself and I'm not gonna
patent topaz
i'm the mess, don't do it
at least some new things will come out on the definitive version of the update iirc :, )
deep pivot
Symbo is back at it, again!
manic bobcat
How did you spoil yourself?
patent topaz
excuse me you can't just pull a beta and let me wait a week :c
manic bobcat
Did you peek at the beta channel?
patent topaz
... yep
manic bobcat
Lul
patent topaz
i promise i won't look at spoilers the next update peach, mainly because there won't be a beta?
hollow heron
I spoiled myself very slightly but I'm fine with how much I did
patent topaz
it's been so long
manic bobcat
Somehow I heard next update patch is launch
hollow heron
Because it was just enough to make me not screw myself over
patent topaz
ok i don't know everything, the very highlights, not the details
aww, if it's true it's... sad, kinda. No more wait? I mean we will finally have the game but... the theories and everything...
manic bobcat
Nothing is built to last.
nimble ocean
i don't know how i gonna say my friend that Leuce will never gonna make it into the game
formal saddle
do you guys know where this is?
"Permanent Record
new! Added a screen summarizing each of your escape attempts; find it in the House's locked chamber"
is the house's locked chamber the gated area to the right of ur room?
nimble ocean
||it's an area that opens after second flashback||
formal saddle
||how do you trigger that? I can't seem to sleep on my bed?||
nimble ocean
i don't remember.. it just happens..
barren ember
Nah dudes
It's in ||the administrative chamber||. You buy it from the house contractor at some point after doing a bunch of runs probably
formal saddle
thanks guess i'll try more runs
merry harbor
We have at least one more patch after this one, it is not the final one. Roadmap said as much near the end of it before the tech beta launched.
just gonna clear that fear up a bit
manic bobcat
I stand corrected.
deep pivot
Now lay down to receive a treat
manic bobcat
:3
narrow hemlock
f10 ingame to report bugs
covert pier
Ah thank you < 3
charred bronze
i have to say tight deadlines 1 is so easy until you get to elysium
sinful berry
all their games use the same engine with a bunch of tweaks to make sure they crash on my computer specifically before they're fixed later on down the line
and yet i still buy them on release if i can
hearty gull
Just tried a run of the tech beta, any one else have a longer loading time (usually between biomes and sometimes rooms)? It's nothing game breaking but the game run very smoothly previously and its kinda jarring the first few time i experience the long loading time.
dense torrent
Might want to ask that in #beta-discussion-june20
granite ether
all tech beta questions go into #beta-discussion-june20 please
it's stated in the #test-branch-readme channel
past rune
Hey, strange questions: What rugs does everyone use in the lounge? Wretched Broker rug or no? Earthy? Elyssian? etc.
deep pivot
I took the broker rug off because it was covering the long rug in the lounge 
Do not post information from the technical beta in here. Go to #beta-discussion-june20 for that, please.
past rune
None of the tables are aligned with the rug either
and @deep pivot I also took the broker rug away because it covered the other rug. Felt bad for the big guy, but he'll deal
past rune
How long does everyone usually take to complete each area?
I find myself at 4-5 minutes for areas 1, 2, and 4
and heavy variety for 3
mild thistle
4-5~ minutes sounds about right for 1 and 2. I usually like to spend a bit longer in 4 sometimes, though that's usually for 'how wack can my build get' runs. 3 is def. the longest part, though.
silent pumice
Honestly, I tend to take my time. I take about half an hour for a full run (though that does include all my breaks to tool around on my phone).
past mirage
I typically spend quite some time running around looking for golden urns, Charon's Shops or Purging Wells, so a typical run is between 30-40 minutes for me.
amber moss
does hades have full controller support?
floral shore
Yup. A lot of people actually prefer to play with a controller over KB/M.
The auto aim makes certain things a bit easier.
amber moss
ahh
sharp parcel
breathe it in
barren ember
And read the codex a lot
royal sparrow
brave thicket
which way does a cyclops wear their eyeliner?
doesnt matter, because Nobody is gonna criticize their makeup
brisk trail
Epic started putting cloud saves on games but Hades came before that. They would have to add it. supergiant should have asked for that.
desert karma
hey guys what's the difference between ||fated authority and the other one||?
manic bobcat
So fated authority lets you change the reward of a room.
Say Darkness reward to gems, or Zeus boon to Artemis.
Fated Persuasion lets you change the boons offered, so say you are offered Deadly Strike and 2 other boons from Artemis, you don't like them, you can reroll for something else.
desert karma
awwww
manic bobcat
Also works in Charon wells and pool. Doesn't work for hammer though
desert karma
i see
what you mean in Charon wells and pool? I can reroll some boon after purchasing them from him?
what's the best build with the crit sword?
Artemis? for crti ofc
?
opal isle
When will the new patch be released?
manic bobcat
what you mean in Charon wells and pool? I can reroll some boon after purchasing them from him?
Charon wells does not offer boons, you can reroll for other items. Pool of purging lets you seem boons though, you can reroll until you find the boon you want to sell.
When will the new patch be released?
No one knows. Best we have is to beta. Maybe you already knew but check #test-branch-readme .
what's the best build with the crit sword?
I actually preferred Heartbreak Strike (Aphrodite).
Combined with Hunter Dash and you will have all the damage you need :D
desert karma
is is strong?
Aphrodite?
She like reduce damage from enemies ok... but with attack? isnt better using her for q attk and then artemis for attack?
or even ares?
or dyonisus
manic bobcat
Yeah, Aphro I'm pretty sure has largest percentage buff in the game. And you have crit which can use a good base damage.
desert karma
Aw I see... So she gives the more buffs from base dmg
manic bobcat
Yeah. I think it's 98% for level 1 Epic.
With Hunter Dash Epic you get another 100% for Dash Strike
If you know how to spam Dash Strike, you will have a good time.
manic bobcat
Yup :D
Also if you hit dash and attack at the same time twice
You can do the dash strike spam
Which can really accelerate your damage
desert karma
is the hammer boon for dash attk hits twice good with this build?
manic bobcat
Yup:D for sure!
Shameless plug but you can check 4:50 for a good Meg fight with the dash spam
I didn't even have boons for my attack :D
desert karma
is the lifesteal hammer boon any good on the sword?
manic bobcat
Erm at any heat > 0 I would say no.
desert karma
Seems so useful...
manic bobcat
It's uncharted territory. You can try it out :D This is just my opinion anyhow.
I do know it's one of the few ways you can bypass Lasting Consequences at max though.
desert karma
@manic bobcat wow 270! crit
Really melted down the first boss
You had just chaos boons basically
manic bobcat
Yeah. But the +percentages is slightly less than the actual boons. I got really lucky later on though.
desert karma
Aw and how do I unlock the pets?
manic bobcat
You need to complete quest for characters
I can tell you more in the #h1-story-discussion
red glade
I recently deleted my save to experience the whole thing from scratch, but now I realize how grindy it feels once you've played late game
It's good if you are totally new, but if you are replaying the game, the tutorial stuff is really annoying lol, it's a necessary evil I suppose
manic bobcat
Why did you delete the save? You can just rename it and the game won't pick it up.
red glade
I deleted cuz I had cheated on that save once, because I was frustrated from grinding. I was addicted and couldn't play anything else. So cheating and giving myself everything made me disinterested in the game. I cheated in gems I think for the super late game house unlocks. I had everything else unlocked.
Then I no longer wanted to keep that save. It was sad. I had it since the alpha
like day 1 lol
manic bobcat
Aw
rough token
Did you delete it in-game, or delete the files?
rough token
(if you're talking about the beta, they want all discussion of it in #beta-discussion-june20 )
languid plank
whoop. im talking about that AND the game in general but ill hop over there i appreciate you
deep pivot
What a swan
crude leaf
i dont know how but the more i play the game the more drawn in i get
its normally the opposite, but not with Hades
rough token
I think that might mean it's a good game :D
crude leaf
i think that might mean its a fantastic game
manic bobcat
Look at you mods smh. I'm the dictator of a server of like 5 people who are my friends. I'm basically a big deal too.
rough token
:3
candid pine
I guess I'm no the only one annoyed by knuckles's attack pause
Not*
if I don't dash attack at the end of the attack chain the stop gets me mad cuz I wanna punch.
amber rampart
Just tried stubborn defiance a couple runs for the first time. I think I prefer my piles of regular death defiance
manic bobcat
Yeah, you probably knew already but you can heal by purposefully dying in a chamber so your SD heals you.
amber rampart
I got that, but then I got eaten by bone Hydra when I was thiiiiis close to beating him, and I'd already used my one
So I'm a little bitter 
fading gazelle
I just love reading this channel to see al the newcomers' reactions to the game and be like...
"Wow, I was once there too"
final grail
I just beat it for the first time
I haven’t got the beta yet, but I was wondering how they would fix the plot hole of beating the whole game of Hades but then still being able to play the game again
limpid crown
shhh spoilers
final grail
Obviously I won’t spoil that for people who haven’t won yet, but I thought it was pretty clever
Ik ik I wasn’t going to spoil it
But I was thinking that ever since I started the game
delicate steeple
Hmmm.....Nemesis or Zag sword? I'm working towards the fourth aspect.
sharp parcel
Zag is worthless
manic bobcat
It's not worthless, it gives you Skelly quest, but that's about it
delicate steeple
I'll likely invest in it at some point anyway, but it's good to know. :P
Though Zag would be fastest to level, gets me what I want too.
manic bobcat
I think unlocking Nemesis can be good enough
You can put the rest in Zag Sword if you want.
outer comet
I mean Zag is honestly quite alright.
It's not too shabby once it's fully upgraded, run and attack speed iirc yeah?
manic bobcat
no
outer comet
Ah.
manic bobcat
movement speed and dash distance
movement is nice, don't get me wrong, dash distance is...
manic bobcat
compared to a 30% crit of Nemesis at max (after Special), Zag Sword seems to be the step child here.
outer comet
Yeah
I'm a Poseidon stan, such a good aspect.
But {spoiler} || Excalibur is SO GOOD ||
manic bobcat
I don't use cast builds much and yes, 4th sword is fun 😄
outer comet
Cast builds are great. Aspect of Hera got me into the bow.