#h1-discussion
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searching through greg's posts is simpler since he posts infrequently 😂
smart, didn't think about that.
steam's forum search is pretty awful. I do have that link bookmarked though since it comes up enough, and I think it's interesting information in general ✌️
Hey did anyone's Shield ever work like a ranged weapon at some point? On my first run with the Shield, instead of bull rushing, the charge would just release as a ranged attack(it was incredibly OP). Is this a bug? It's fine now though.
Oh wow, I did. Just read the wiki about it lmao.
Does that upgrade only last for that one run?
Yes
You can check what is one run only or permanent upgardes here https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/520688402958516254/660997121406926849/hades_room_rewards_guide.png
Yes. Basically anything that doesn’t show up in the bottom right of the screen when you pick it up gets reset at the end of the current run.
Thanks!
How does one develop close friendships with friends?
I have gotten Charoun, Chaos, Ares, Athena, and Hermes to the max nectar given. But, I seem to not be able to do anything at this point with them.
there are some, with a heart with a clock embedded on them when viewed on the codex
those aren't available anymore after that point
I see.
and i think artemis is another
Looks like I will have to do more runs.
artemis unlocks by talking with her i heard
aphrodite by romancing
and that's as far as i know
At least I get to unlock Skelly puzzles.
Some have a lock on their heart which means you have to get a quest for them. The ones who haven’t had their quests implemented into the game yet will have the clock symbol. I don’t think they tell you which is which in-game.
99% of narrative problems in Hades can be solved by simply playing more of the game.
A lot more clearings for sure.
I think some gods require you to get a specific kind boon to proc their important dialogues after enough nectar FYI.
Hm, that guide is msising something tho
like they should mention the fact that charon's shop is incapable to roll into anything
so its easy to see whether the new room is gonna be shop or what especially when you are blinded by chaos
owait they did mention it
Joined the server to say just how much I love this game. My friend recommended this game, I got it on sale and I already have almost 50 hours.
This is definitely the game with the most "alive" characters I've ever seen. So many interactions and they're always so different.
What is missing is Demeter's icon ❄️
But that's a trifle. It still teaches what is supposed to teach 
Welcome to the server! Glad you are enjoying the game 
Zagreus told Nyx he's happy the contractor has the option to buy orpheus' release
But i already released him, he's back
is this a bug or bad rng?
outdated dialogue, it happens every now and then
sometimes both the gods and the denizens of the house will have dialogue for stuff that has already happened just by virtue of there being so many pieces of possible dialogue at once that they just step on eachother
oh ok thanks
Oh wait i think it was normal, i think he was talking about being happy about because now orpheus is back. It was normal sorry
yeah, looks like aphro's hearts bugged for a lot of people with saves prior to nighty night for some weird reason
Fret not, fellas
Greg: Hey, there is a bug in the live branch preventing some players from unlocking Aphrodite's affinity gauge. It will be fixed in our next update slated for June. We apologize for the inconvenience.
So I'm curious, is there a good reason to give the golden flasks to the same person multiple times over?
I accidentally gave Dionysus a second one because I forgot I had already given one to him even though there's a ton more people I haven't gifted yet. But it doesn't really show any future unlockables listed from giving him multiple flasks, so is it worth pursuing?
Some people, yes
theres 5 (eventually to be 6) non-olympian chara you can receive a summon from with high enough affection, but beyond that raising affection doesnt serve any purpose besides giving you more narrative (besides the initial gift you get). theres dialogue thats locked behind certain levels of affection, but i cant think of anything offhand that affects gameplay thats locked behind affection, beyond the summons
if you like the characters, go ahead and gift them, if thats not your thing, you'll probably inevitably get it done later on anyway once you hoard a bunch of resources
there are quests locked behind high affection, i should note........ not sure any of the aspect quests are, i dont think so....
there is one companion that asks of you to upgrade zagreus sword to lvl 5
but that's it i think
i was thinking more in terms of the 4th aspects but iirc the requirements for those are all related to gameplay
though thats 2 out of 6 so we'll have to see what sort of reqs the remaining ones have
@final grail it's like stardew valley or harvest moon. You're unlocking their relationship overtime. That's the primary motivation
i wouldn't be surprised if Ares quest was to be related in some way to any weapon aspect
Oh ok
So I should start with getting everyone's gifts first
and then move on with the ones I like the most
probably the best way to do it! a lot of the trinkets are useful in different situations so it certainly doesnt hurt to collect them first
aspect of demeter good on fists?
I know at least one person here who loves them!
If you've got a good flow going with the fists, I couldn't see them being bad.
Essentially you'd wanna focus on your Special's damage more than otherwise.
Enjoy your journey!
thanks :))
this is so refreshing from brawlhalla discord
nice to not see toxicity every 5 min
It's usually nice and wholesome here ^_^ I love it
Bouldy Best Boi prove me wrong
@final grail I think that's a reasonable approach first yeah. Give a gift to everyone once.
i gave all my gifts to charon straight away cause hes dad D:
now to think of it.. Bouldy do represent a personality of a nice guy.. he is silent, ready to listen, never quarrels over insignificant things.. he is strong, always there to protecc.. and most importantly, he believes in you.. and your belief in yourself
the moment i was given the option to gift bouldy
was a good day
that boi may have atleast 30 of my gifts for the most troll boons ever but
he believes in me so what else can i do
but give him my everything

Hey all, I've sunk 23 hours into Hades so far and just jumped to sink some more, and it's reset my save and all my progress. Anyone else had this issue?
Any nice tips for 32 heat runs? I'm struggling like hell(no pun intended)
@long pelican uhhh hm maybe try the If Your Game Crashes and You Lose Progress one and see if its recoverable? https://steamcommunity.com/app/1145360/discussions/1/1753520467359788156/
Thanks! I'll give it a shot.
if that doesnt work im not sure if theres another method to revert the reset :/ might try poking around #h1-tech-support perhaps
i dont think its a terribly common issue, but technology tends to be as fickle as the gods themselves at times
could not speak for epic though since i dont use it
manually back up your save files periodically i guess just in case
will have to
i love the game but just wouldn't have the heart to farm it all up from the beginning again
from the #hades-faq cloud saving on the epic launcher is something SGG are looking into ^_^
yeah, but until now this is dangerous as hell XD
Fists are awesome. Get pretty OP when upgraded
shame they disabled sending images or i'd show what i was running with
had a legendary and heroic athena boon tho
shes great
So how does Titan blood work?
I think it's for upgrading weapons and I have my sword upgraded once I think, but Idk how to use it
I upgraded accidentally if I did
Titan Blood upgrades your weapons after you enable their aspects
The Zagreus Aspects are enabled by default, you must have upgraded one of these
You enable the aspects with keys
Sorry I know this sounds stupid but where do I go to do that
i dont remember using keys to enable them
Well, you should try the weapons and start upgrading the one you like more, maybe
No I mean where do I go to actually enable it
Oh, i didn't see your last msg, sorry
because when I go to equip the weapon, I don't see an upgrade option anywhere
Sorry, i don't remember so well, it's been ages lol Try going to the sword, since you said you upgraded it once. The next upgrade costs a little more, iirc
alright, I'll figure it out I guess
The upgrade option is right next to the weapon when you click on it. It says the cost and the effect(what upgrade you get)
The sword just shows a little (+20 purple stuff) next to [E] Equip
It's a shame we can't attach imgs. I could show you
you can upload images to imgur and post the link
I'll just play with the sword for a while and look around a bit
have you unlocked all the weapons Wiggle?
Yeah, i guess that's needed. Didn't remember
you can upload images to imgur and post the link
@granite ether Nice. It's my first time using Discord lol Tks
no worries ^_^
Many servers do allow you to directly upload images, for future reference
What thing? could you send a screenshot?
It's fine, I've got it
It's fine, I've got it
@final grail For upgrading, guess you need to first unlock all weapons. You did that already?
No I'm missing gloves and whatever the last one is
So I'm gonna unlock those first before asking any more questions
No worries, ask anytime
1 titan blood for 250 gemstones beginners trap or good offer? brand new to the game.
not a great offer. might be technically worth it, but blood is a lot harder to get
or wait
which way is the trade going?
trading blood for gems, or gems for blood?
then yeah, don't think that's a good trade
i was thinking that honestly seemed unlikely to be as good as it looked. like they dripfeed you gemstones earlygame so it seems super good but i just assumed it would be allot harder to get bloods later so made more sense to see if it was bunk or not
It's a terrible trade. The other way around would be reasonable
only if the boss has armor
Afaik, no. Just yellow bar mobs
|| yes, but not all ||
which one has?
|| some parts of the second boss, some parts of the fourth boss ||
the only boss that has armour ||is the heads that spawn off the hydra once you hit the hp gates||
ah ok 🙂 those are easy 😄
How do i use these spoiler tags? Haha
no idea how to put spoiler messages 😮
do you want it spoiled?
||oh i see||
I've finished it a few times 🙂
if you're on pc, you can also highlight the stuff you want to edit
then || yes ||
and a little thing pops up
interesting... I don't recall
was referring to || the dudes he summons ||
I've been reading a lot, and I see lots of people doing well with the shield. Funny enough, I can finish it with all weapons, but not with the shield 😦
making use of the charged attack with the shield is super useful
Shield was my first succesful run. The blocking is pretty good to start
I love the chiron aspect with chill. It's so easy
just got flurry shot as well, so it's so easy to just shoot once, special, special special, dead
This is the one that adds extra arrows? I forget the names some times
Pretty nice indeed
and I just got a chaos for 40% more special dmg 😮
Chaos boons can be really awesome when RNG cooperates
I love it when i get like Zeus boons, that don't have bonus damage and then i get a Chaos for extra damage. Becomes a beast
definitely
I would love a way to see my total stats...
Like crit %, etc...
Another quick question, Pressure points (critical chance 5%), would it apply to every row of my bow's special?
Lol, I was charging the spin attack for the spear and the doom effect killed the hydra. Then afterwards I was still in the spin attack charging pose but I could move around freely. It was pretty funny
yeah, I think they know about that bug
A looong time ago there was a bug with Flurry Slash that had you attacking like 20x per second that would run after a Hydra kill.
Slowly glide across the stage with a buzzsaw in front of you.
is it always worth switching to the weapon with the bonus darkness earlygame?
Yes.
🤨
exactly
Accelerates early-game Darkness grind and makes you better learn every weapon and what works with them or not.
So you don't get stuck at 20 Heat on the Shield and 2 Heat on everything else because you crutched Blocking for 20 hours.
well the shield has gotten me the furthest by far 😂
You don't need to be switching constantly to learn every weapon, and you don't, in fact, need to learn every weapon. Just focusing on the ones you like most is perfectly fine, too.
Rotating Darkness is fine. Usually you will have a couple of weapons that you really like using anyway, so Dark Thirst is a neat bonus. But you don't have to rotate everything just for the sake of doing it. You will have enough resources.
gloves, sword, and arrow are currently what has gotten me the farthest with 16,14,and 12 heat. spear, shield, and gun are like at 4-6 heat at the moment cause i only really use them when im bored and want to try something new just cause i personally dont like em that much except for the guan yu spear. that spear is fun
i would personally enjoy that the next aspect will be for gloves or arrow just because i use them the most but i wouldnt be mad if it was shield or gun just cause there is a chance the 4th aspects of those weapons might make me like me more
i go heat for all weapon together
and they are all currently 21
leave no one behind
Congratz man.
It was the fists... The fists with the right boons and Talos' aspect are just great
Was the same for me, first clear with the Talos fists. Although admittedly fairly hard carried by the Demeter cast.
Don't really like the fists, they're too close range for me. The Rail seems to be the one with the most results for me
I'm using zagreus aspect on them though so might check out the other ones
See that's the thing, I had the range upgrade for the fists, so it was no problem
And the Talos grip certainly helps
my first and only clear used the raik with the short-range hammer upgrade lol
But yeah I also... Kinda got carried by Demeter. And Athena's deflecting attacks.
Fists with Ares attack + Athena dash + duo just absloutely flat out murders. Don't know if it'd be 32 heat viable, but on mid-tier heat at least it just slaughters.
The poseidon + dionysus duo might just be my favorite
Do you guys know a good build for the spear? Never manage to get as far with it
Aspect of Hades, Serrated Edge, crit attack. Look for Dash-Strike damage-ups.
You'll rarely need to use the spin buff against standard enemies, but it smokes minibosses and bosses.
In the beginning I liked Achilles aspect with a cast build.
I tested the damage and Dash-Strike didn't seem to affect the spin damage, maybe I just did it wrong
It's the other way around.
Spin on enemies with Hades and you deal additional Attack (but not spin) and Special damage.
So your poke and Dash-Strike and Skewer get the bonus.
Good luck.
im a big fan of the fist especially the demeter fist, i like the 5x uppercut.
i usually go hard on it with solo demeter attack boon and then try to get decay or exploding chill to finish things off fast, getting the legendary boon is also wonderful. zeus attack and demeter special is nice especially cause it sets ya up for there duo boon which is nice
Fun fact, that's additional hits.
Standing uppercut deals 7 hits, dashing is 6.
You should try Zeus Attack into Artemis or Aphrodite Special.
The only legendary boon I ever got was poseidon's and it usually was more trouble than it was worth
What's the best attack boon for fists? Zeus'?
zeus is good cause you hitting fast, im a big fan of demeter and athena just cause i am bias when it comes to chill and athena is nice because you hit so fast you can deflect anything
I almost never even see demeter
makes hades a weenie cause you deflect all of his attacks into him and you dash away when he does a spin attack
if you get athena attack and athena dash with the fist you will be untouchable
Huh, might finally bother to get her keepsake and run with it then
Demeter can only show up after you've seen the final boss at least once, it's why you see her less than the others in the first couple hours.
No, I mean, I've already "unlocked" her, she just appears way less often
ive let her and artemtis own me. going full chill runs or full artemtis cast runs can be very fun
i think my next run imma do athena attack artemtis special for the fist
I did my first run with Heightened Security yesterday, just a low heat darkness farm to get it off the fated list. Goodness gracious, that is some serious business.
Elysium arrow hitting for a casual 100.
[hypnos voice] have you tried moving out of the way? those pesky arrows won't hurt if they can't hit you!
no snark @ u of course 
I’m so happy to see the “overwhelmingly positive” rating on steam
Supergiant more than deserves it after all their incredibly hard work they’ve put into this game, despite it being unfinished
final boss is considered spoilers @dense plinth
either use spoiler tags, or post it in #h1-builds-and-combat please ^_^
June is here, where is the update?
lol, jk. Looking forward to it though, I have so much faith it's going to be a great update
Is it just some time in june or?
a specific release date for the update will be announced as it gets closer as Greg posted in #announcements
in your dreams 😛
I want answers! It's my birthday, so tell me! 🔫 

oh happy birthday
Thank you. 
Merry Birthmas Nyaan 
Hurpy borfday
Is there already a specific date for the v1 release?
nope(?)
sorry for being blunt, but there's no specific release date for the next update as it is, so it'd highly likely there's not gonna be a specific date for 1.0
Got it
I need more mama nyx and artemis content :l
@granite ether @rough token thank you! 
Can somebody check my math. I'm very tired so I dont know if I'm messing up and I'm doing it from memory. The dude that sells keys for gems or nectar for keys or etc. At his store its pretty much 1000 gems to get one titan blood, 100 keys to get one titan blood, or 20 nectar to get one titan blood right?
Then of course 2 diamond for 1 blood and 1 ambrosia for 1 blood
you can always also get 1500 obols and go up to styx
there's also sometimes special deals for titans blood sometimes too
(which is your best option for straight buying titan blood imo)
The wiki should have all the info for the broker. 
Selling Ambrosia for it I think is a good trade early on. Later, you'll get a lot just from clearing, so that you won't really need to trade for it at all.
problem about special deals is that they're generally a scam
and usually not worth the price
1 Titan Blood for 15 keys is an absolute steal
i have never had that one
the broker seems more keen on ripping me off than giving me good deals apparently
@high island happy birthday 🙂
Thank you!
The broker right now is just mainly for trading in resources that you no longer need.
Oh happy birthday nyaanyaa!!!! 🎉 🍰 
happy birthday
happy birthday nya!! 🎉 
Thank you! 🥳
Happy birthday!
Thanks! 
You guys, it's June!
it's happening
eventually
I noticed because June 1 is my birthday, so it's like oh yeah it's my birthday today because it's June 1, that means it's June. 
Me smart. 
Look, I got Hades on the 1st of may, I've been freaking out about the june update ever since I beat the game on my third day of owning it. That's how much I can't get enough of this thing x'D
With #humblebrag and all that haha
Sorry, I'm very proud of that xD
The point being, I am SO HYPED for the june update, aaaa!
Yeah, i can't even work properly these days, my mind is always off to the update haha
The new design of charron looks sick though
Hello there, im new here :d I have been playing hades since last year. Super fan and cant wait for the june update
Also, my prediction is that the new weapon aspect, if there is one, will have to be bought from Charron
There should be at least one new aspect, according to the roadmap, iirc
The roadmap said plural, so I'm hoping for 2, but it might just be a "we're working on it, but we won't have it ready for the new update"
i'd love it they just add all the 4 remaining aspects lol
Me too
Guess there will be new enemies as well, right?
Hello there, im new here :d I have been playing hades since last year. Super fan and cant wait for the june update
@fresh blade Hi! ^^ I joined today too
YEah, it said new enemies
and, is it Charron? I thought it might be, if it really is, then MAN does the silhouette look sick
Where are you all seeing the Charron art?
I think it is, specially because of the update's name
In anouncements
#announcements there's a sillouette of a figure 😉
It's not just the silhouette. You can see more details if you look closely
REally? Huh, let's seeeee

I can't see anything else either
I can see they icons on the coins on his neclace, I can see his face faintly, the lock on his hat
OoooooooooooooooooH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I put it in photoshop and changed the Curves
I CAN SEE IT!
O MY GOD THAT'S SO COOL!!!!!!!!!!
ikr!?
It looks REALLY dope
any way I can link it here?
imgur link is your best best
Oh please do post it here
can you see this?
thank you, I can see it way better this way
I only saw it very faintly since I just put my eyes close enough to see stuff
probably best to spoiler tag that just in case ^_^
how do I do that?
Charon*
He’d only be charron if he was standing in Phlegeton or something
|| before and after the thing you want spoiler tagged
You put || on each side of the message.
...though the quote message reply rather defeats the purpse
there you go
Oh. yeah, but same principle, right?
It's so cool! ^^
Oh huh
I did not know spoiling links also spoiled the pic
I deleted my quote just in case lol Wow, Charon looks awesome
Dusa is still my favorite, she's adorable, but this Charon looks dope
yo spoiler tags please when talking about potential spoilers ^_^
This is soo awesome, hypeee * Q *
I tagged it now, don't worry ^^
I'm including general talk about the thing too
ah I see, sorry! I didn't realize
We’ve known about Charon getting a new portrait since the nighty night trailer though
Plus sgg dropped the non-brightened pic in #announcements , it’s far from a secret at this point
I mean, it may be "obvious" to you who it is, but it's not to everyone ^_^
It’s been talked about even prior to the announcement being dropped since, as mentioned, the first time it was shown was technically the nighty night trailer
And even then everyone assumed (correctly so) it was him and has referred to is as such
I can understand spoiling the pic since you can see the full portrait but spoiling any talk of it seems like too much imo
I´w been wondering, is there a chance I could ask supergiant if they would consider someone for a voice over job. (probably not open, but hey let a man dream)
They probably have a voice over agency for it. But I'd love to get in contact with that voice over agency. Although they might do a lot of it in house
from memory yeah, they do quite a lot of voiceover work in house
but I'm not 100% certain on that
Interesting, where are they located ?
can always check the credits of their games to be certain of who voiced which character ^_^
Yeah iirc they rely a lot on in-house talent
A surprising amount of NPCs are voiced by the same person
I just looked it up, San Francisco
it helps cut down on extra hiring costs that way
Aye
Ssg being an indie study means they don’t have a AAA budget so having talented voice actors probably helps
mmhm definitely ^_^
If they're looking, I'd love to do a singular npc for free or cheap, lol
there's a tonne of good talent on the SGG team
The voice acting is superb. And it really surprised me that the same person did like Poseidon and Hades. Both chars have very distinctive personalities, and their voices have a lot of personality and identity. Really good job
Definitely, every part of their games are amazing imo
they've certainly improved a metric tonne as well from bastion as well 
They did
And Bastion is still a great game, so that says a lot
Yea, the voices are absolutely stunning
But Bastion is like one of the best games i've played in the past years, and it's their debut. It's an amazing feat
Its too bad im over the pond, I would love to do some work for them
Transistor is also truly amazing. It looks better than most AAA games i've played in my entire life, it's just VERY gorgeous. And the mechanics are also great
Never played Pyre, tho, but it's already installed, so shall play it soon enough lol
All I can do is make very avarage mspaint fanart and voice act, and since they're voice acting is inhouse I won't really be able to do much for them
I have never played Transistor though. I have played Pyre quite a bit.
it definitely helps that individual members had experience from elsewhere before starting up SGG
Pyre is a very unique experience I will say that much
@granite ether its quite Unique, I must say
Yeah, i read on Steam comments it's something you might actually like or not like at all, because of how unique it is haha And i love these kind of things
Is very ballzy 😆
I've played the heck out of Bastion and Pyre. I have Transistor but I need to sit down and play it someday. Right now, hooked on Hades hehe
So many games, so little time
Btw. they are no multiplayer plans for this game ? It would be kinda Isaacy if they had something with the companions you get.
Co-op Hades would be amazing
Yea, the second player would be able to play as Dusa
- Q*
That does would be awesome. I doubt it would be a thing though, it just doesn't seem like something this studio would do, at least in my impression
It would be possible though. Instead of an AI controlling Dusa, you could take control of it.
Considering how chaotic the game already is I can't imagine coop working at all, especially with how fast the camera is flinging around to catch up with you
True, though it would take a lot of work, not to cheapen the experience for the sake of multiplayer
Yeah, hades is being built as a single player experience, so I highly doubt co-op aspects will be added to it
Though I would love something like challenges or shareable scoreboards you can compete with friends on
Yea, that would be awesome.
Considering how chaotic the game already is I can't imagine coop working at all, especially with how fast the camera is flinging around to catch up with you
@raw moth Yeah, i don't know how it would work out. But SGG is so talented i think they could manage lol
"Is Hades a multiplayer game, or are there any plans for multiplayer?
Hades is a single-player game. We have no plans to add multiplayer, as we have been building the design and narrative of Hades with a solo experience in mind."
from #hades-faq, sorry to crush any dreams 
My dreams have been crushed @void vigil
understandable why there'd be no coop but still a darn good game
Yea it is, I love the game no matter what xD
xD
"Is Hades a multiplayer game, or are there any plans for multiplayer?
Hades is a single-player game. We have no plans to add multiplayer, as we have been building the design and narrative of Hades with a solo experience in mind."
from #hades-faq, sorry to crush any dreams
@void vigil Haha no big deal. I love it the way it is
You could add a combat mode where you run through a dungeon, get some boons, then fight the other hades with their individual build
then you keep going through rounds of 3, oh what could be, but I totally see why its a single player experience
Multiplayer would have been nice though sigh
I could easily see the screen getting too messy
imagine both guys having the azaroth or whatever the gun is and then fog bombs with 4 crystals
I was spamming that like crazy with blade shhift,
imagine 2
lol
The game is way too small for multiplayer. Like most rooms just aren't that big to support something like that
screams in temple of styx
thats why I suggested a combat mode instead, that way you fight with someone that is not like any boss but yourself
but even then
lol
It sounds cool but also pretty messy
Temple of Styx completely ruins the game for me I absolutely hate that area and I think it's poorly designed and the enemies are probably the worst in the game
youll be like
Like some builds are just plain broken
yeah, the server's pretty PG
the myth in general isnt for younger audiences
This channel is for all sg games
Notice, this is a Supergiant server
Not just hades
got it
Bastion and Pyre are pretty family friendly
They also don't go into the darker side of the myths, imo
setting all companies trying for their official sites to be as pg as possible for the sake of looks aside, the other two games are things a younger person could probably play without any issues
so i can understand why'd they'd be a bit more restrictive on the official discord
Which is sad, cause part of the myth is the dark side
It stops you from idolizing them
You can still bypass the bot with alternate words
firetruck
Yeah
I've started using Shades!
Its a win win that way
Games like bastion and pyre are as kid friendly as they get
Thats actually pretty dope ngl lol
Its gotten hot man, georgia is a sauna outside with the humidity
I think this would be #off-topic-discussion
But essentially India has an entire region of the year dedicated to rain
Pretty much
They should add weather as new effects in Hades
Pineapple, there's no one interpretation of greek mythos, just because those dark themes exist doesn not mean they should be in the context of Hades; Supergiant have downright downplayed or in some cases outright changed mythos is some aspects to ensure the game is more suitable for an audience of a wide range of demographics
Im just saying they are there and are part of it as a whole, thus the game is raising kids to idolize people who shouldnt; im not against the pg filter.
What idea did you have in mind for weather? @manic bobcat
Sandstorm made it hard to see (already a thing with certain heat options, but quite limited)
Snow can be speed debuff like chaos debuff
I think they will make for fun for Heat options.
But one can dream :D
Weather influencing the Underworld sounds weird tbh
Zeus at it again
Oh god no
lava wind
PLS STOP
Why not make the floor lava?
samething but you know how games are with naming
Lava Rain
Don't wanna spoil too much but that's kinda a thing already
I mean I figured
Its to be assumed
and if it not then its to be let down
Lava tornadoes
perfect
Ok so suddenly the guys that jump and throw bombs are suddenly 10x more faster than they were yesterday
F
or you are getting old
That's kinda a thing
wait huh
did you turn the wrong options on the Pact o Punishment?
I havent beaten the game
then you may indeed be getting old
the future is now old man
Seriously though they arent even waiting to jump again
That's just based on your positioning
As the old adage goes, Git Gud
in all seriousness, maybe you're not as clear minded today
quick paced games like Hades do require quick reflexes and stuff like being more or less well rested can really influence the way you play
maybe cause im in lava
yeah don't stand in lava either
the phlegeton can really eat your hp if you get careless
A gorgun freezing me on top of lava is pain
I just meant im in the lava stage
but youre prob right ab the clear mind
I just hopped into it so maybe theyre seeming more fast paces than if I had been playing for the past 10
How long have you've been playing for?
11 hours total, I only got it the day before yesterday
Im visiting my mom and needed a game that didnt seem to need much to run
but I have a thing for obnoxious ability power and this game speaks to me
11 hours is very early in the game. You'll get much better with time and all the things you'll enable
laffs in 600 hours
god i hate the fact that i wasted so much time on this game
but i love it a
Daaaang
I have like 240-250h on it. But it's one of the most well-invested times i ever had on gaming, probably
god i hate the fact that i wasted so much time on this game
You didn't waste anything my friend
the difficulty to me doesnt rely in the actual fights for now atleast
It's probably the second game i put more hours in my life(at least after i started counting it lol). It just loses to Destiny franchise, currently
its ab the fact you gotta go back from the beginning
its ab the fact you gotta go back from the beginning
Welcome to like every roguelikes ever
laughs in dead cells
Hades has a lot of meta progression, so it won't be such a burden after a while
It's much less punishing than many other rogue-likes
I currently only have 60-something hours, but I've also had the game for almost exactly a week now
I don't trust steam hours because it is super buggy
?
I currently only have 60-something hours, but I've also had the game for almost exactly a week now
48 in 1st week
I currently only have 60-something hours, but I've also had the game for almost exactly a week now
@rough token Wow, that's very much for just a week. I've been playing for 6 months, i guess lol
:3
I only dont trust my rocket league hours cause steam will keep the process open
I have like 100 ish hours in
I don't trust steam hours because it is super buggy
@fading gazelle Yeah, i don't really know how many hours i have on it because there were times i was afk
I don't have school, only reason I can play so much
Wasn't Hades free with Pyre purchase?
hades wasnt even on steam's launch /s
I'm subtracting a couple hours from the recorded time, works out about right
The other way around
Wasn't Hades free with Pyre purchase?
I still have a gift copy of pyre
The only game I'm missing
I could give it but it might be a bit of a hassle
I'd be more than happy to let someone else experience pyre
So the offer still stands
gotta love be financially ok-ish
Lol yeah
I'm not making banks haha, like just enough savings and some for games and stuff
I can live in a bigger apartment though
Out of Tartarus
I got 170 in the account, thinking ab going to san francisco to live out my dreams
/s ofc lmfao
Lol we got it
Hey you can take it easy on the /s we aren't all tone deaf out here :D
Just for the not so obvious ones
Where is SGG based?
Are they Canadian?
aussy
by the sounds of it
ok off topic but
When greek gods dont got greek accents
🆚 
San fran, looked it up
I thought that one of the founders was Indian because of his name and I got so excited
Amir sounds like an Arab name tho
Wooloo ofc
Rao is pretty Indian though
I think Amir is american, I don't know about his ancestry though
Amir is an arabic/hebrew name one of the oldest names on record
He is american, I just thought he was Indian cause of his name
what does "god-like" rogue-like mean?
thanks. i didnt know if it was a new take on the genre or just a tagline
Just a tagline, and if you want to be really pedantic about it, Hades is a Roguelite.
It's marketing nonsense lol
Hades has
- Resetting deaths
- Persistent upgrades between deaths
- Incremental difficulty
- Runs can be beaten in one session
So it's a rougelite
If I sue SGG for false advertisement, do you think they will settle for a free copy for me?
I can gift my friend
But now they know your plan
congratulations you played yourself
liberal use of "/s" never hurts, not everyone has the same senses of humor/seriousness, sarcasm doesn't work for the way some people socialize, and also anymore i wouldn't put it past anyone to be serious about anything lol 🤷♀️
Where did that come from my g
Hi, when is the June Update?
June
@sage fog #announcements holds the latest information that we know
so nothing concrete yet
Ok thank ! = )
ah yes
I have impulse bought this game
random qs, will it ever have co-op?
and also, is the story complete?
The story won’t be complete till the 1.0 release from what devs have said, and I also don’t think co-op is intended for the final product.
Yes, it's intended for it to be a solo experience
No, just go ahead and play it, you won't regret it
At least give it a try, the story is already well-developed
I agree, and I don’t know if they plan to raise the price after Hades exits early access but a lot of roguelites tend to
aah aight will do, thanku lads
It would make sense for them to raise the price
riight, prices, I slightly regret getting it from steam instead of epic because less of a cut goes to the devs
but oh well
every day in june i’ll be respectfully looking in the discord lmao
i don't know what the grand total story content is, but currently it feels almost complete
also, by design, it takes quite a few playthroughs to flesh out all the story beats
so it wouldn't necessarily be a waste to play now
I love the replayability, was a turn off in pyre (I still love pyre)
mhm, Ill give the game a shot
but also you wouldn't be wrong to wait for the soon-to-be final product
i'm not one to say but they've announced that they are still "on track"
and that the pandemic has not led to any significant delays to the next update. Not sure about the final product.
Pretty sure it's still a few months from now, most likely late 2020
Duos don't have rarity scope, correct?
I'm offered a choice between:
- Deadly Flourish (Epic)
- Deadly Reversal (Duo)
I might not get offered Deadly Flourish at Epic again, but I'll probably get offered the Duo again, right? (I'm in Tartarus.)
Duos do have their own rarity scope iirc
Duos are considered Tier 3 aren't they
So take the Duo, don't be confident I'll see it again?
If you don't have the increased legendary/duo boons from the mirror, I would not be confident in seeing it again
If you do have that, then you can have confidence that you might, but you still might not. Honestly, if it were me, it'd depend on how far into the run I am for which one I'd pick
I do have that at Max (while I level up the increased likelihood of getting good rooms).
i would also consider how often you think you'd be able to make use of deadly reversal
Tartarus.
vs deadly flourish
Btw about the mirror upgrade of % increase on legendaries and duos
I have Athena Dash with Fists, so often?
Is it a multiplicative or additive increase?
i've definitely turned down deadly flourish for another boon that i thought would be more useful
oh, if you're in Tartarus, I wouldn't mind taking flourish, especially if you can force the gods via keepsakes. It really depends which you value more then
and never saw it again (also in tartarus)
Like if the mirror perk is at 10%, does the chance become for example 1,1% or 11%
And I assume additive
If the original chance is supposedly 1%
but also i've turned down duos and gotten them to reappear so it's ultimately up to you
different door types can help you game the rng a bit too
Never had the balls to turn down a duo
since you're in tartarus, you have at least 2 miniboss doors that up your rarity odds
in the next two biomes
and then any door or any buy from charon in the final biome
Would be nice if the game had more biomes
Imo turning down duos is only worth it if a) you get it offered very early, b) it's not build enabling (like there is not a snowball's chance in hell I'm gonna pass up Hunting Blades for anything) and c) the replacement is very worth it.
Maybe Islands of the Blessed a side area
More often than not they're the best stuff you'll be able to pick from
There's also the Poseidon + Aphro or Dionysus boons that you either take early or don't bother.
a, i think gets thrown out the window if it enables you a really strong build that you can take advantage of early
I don't think I'm going for a build. I've already used one keepsake (to get Artemis), so I could force Athena and hope for Duo again.
I got the Poseidon + Dio boon in Elysium and it was still worth it
Helps in Styx and Charon Shops
Made me get a legendary in Styx
It does help there, not a question, it's just that they become exponentially more valuable the earlier you get them.
Well, maybe not exponentially, but still. A lot.
linearly more valuable 
Getting any Duo and selling it later is still better value than any Epic.
gotta pay those charon debts lest he break our legs in styx
sometimes i feel like i never improve in the game... now i always beat up the furies but i always take many damage
Or sometimes i take very unecessary damage that i could have easily avoided if i had just been more careful
It's demoralizing, i don't even want to do the run anymore, i'm gonna die early because i'm stupid and i can't do nothing about it. Also will i ever be better at this? Everyone is better than me it seems etc. Was it also like this for some of you?
oof sorry for the wall of text
Relax, you'll get better
Pay attention to the right boon combinations, too
Go in with a build in mind and try to get the right boons, it'll make life a lot easier
right now i just pick the boons i like the most, i wanted to wait before startegy building since i suck at it lol
I'm coming into this with a lot of hours in other, similar games. That being said, it took me a while to get good at them. It can be a slow process, for sure. My best advice, something I learned from martial arts—slow is smooth, smooth is fast. Practice timing dashes instead of constantly dodging, waiting to use attacks until they're in a good position.
I mean, I knew I was getting better when I on;y beat the first fury with fog
The game isn't THAT strict with combinations, since it's rng based
Don't worry about getting far in the run, the beauty of rougelites is that you get better after every run. Just keep at it and you'll get there
Master the craft
except everytime you get far, you get wiped out by something you couldnt expect
/s
Its a learning experience XD
You gotta think about synergy, y'know? For example, a weapon that hits really quick would be good with Zeus' boons, while a slow one not so much
A weapon that can stack on a lot of damage, but it slow, could use something like artemis who enhances critical damage
the thing is that i'm 40ish runs in the game and i still need to cling to the lucky tooth like my life depends on it
And the Hydra is painful
And Alecto, listen, she's cool but BOI take some anger management lessons you can't always be angry
I definitely decide gods based on weapons but all gods seemingly have a spin for it
Alecto you can bait into the spikes, she'll kill herself
whether its good or bad
Focus on 2 or 3 gods, it'll help
If you are ashamed of using the lucky tooth, don't be. I'm running 20+ heat and I've almost used the lucky tooth in my runs. Its just that good of a keepsake
And yeah the hydra can be a real mess I got destroyed the first few times I went up against it
Sometimes i realize i chose a good boon, but later
Like "huh, Dionysus'special is cool on the spear bc i give hangover 2x on enemies, didn't notice that but cool"
nah, lucky tooth is a good failsafe trinket if you got unlucky and lost too many DDs before styx
Keep moving, dashes are lifesavers. Get the +1 dash mirror uprade asap
The 2nd phase is a pain
I can't even imagine EM
yeah, dash and DDs ought to be your priority mirror upgrades
but i already have that dw
Good
I'm saving for the 3rd DD
I max my lives and still use lucky tooth
Realize that delay between "consecutive dashes" is pretty small
EM Hydra is indeed pain
Wait what does EM mean I'm trippin
theres almost no delay tbh
Extreme measures
uh
like its not worth even noticing
just to be clear, lucky tooth is usually mathematically inferior to several other trinkets such as myrmidon bracer and acorn
not to say its non existent
That extra life tho >>>
Yeah
so it is worth trying other defensive trinkets
Acorn is the superior lucky tooth
you can't think of it as only extra life
The thing is, sometimes i just let numbskulls gnaw me or louts or witches or skeletons, and it's frustrating because i could have easily avoided their attacks but i'm impatient
I use the acorn in elysium and the tooth in the final area
Imagine dying in normal rooms smh my head
So if you're struggling with more than that, it's worth trying other ones
extra life represents a finite amount of hp
I usually go with God trinkets until Elysium or Styx if my build is great
which you have to weigh against damage reduction/negation
They really help when you're trying to get a duo
@patent topaz Thankfully, that's easy to fix. Just be more chill, might want to try ranged weapons too
Well the extra life helps me stay calm in the final boss and overall I usually don't need it but it helps me destress and not be impatient
nothing can take away from how a keepsake can make you feel
And actually focus more on dodging lol
I don't remember what the acorn does can someone remind me
Maybe those times i'm just burned out from playing too much, i admit i'm a bit addicted to technology etc.
rifle + zeus attack chain 
Acorn negates up to 5 boss attacks
The acorn gives you free hits
Depending on level
Bruh I played this game for 18 hours in like 1,5 days it's ok I'm addicted too
Oh right I remember
Acorn looks hella OP on final boss ngl
i have 45 hours ahah i'm a mess
Damn
That being said, taking it slow (the bow or the spear are good for that) will help you practice timing dodges. Trust me, I still get hit by louts sometimes :P
Yeah I almost auto equip it for Elysium and Styx
I usually take unneccessary hits with Thesus's 2nd phase so the acorn really clutches over there for me
I personally do god trinkets first 3 levels and for the 4th level I just take the cerbus trinket for more health or coin pouch to help me buy stuff. Sometimes I do pouch for the 3rd level if I messed up and lost a death defiance to help me buy one. But typically doing that method helps you focus on 3 gods that either synergize well or that you simply like and make the game pretty easy. Like I personally love demeter so I sometimes just start each game with demeter. Today I wanted to do a deflect crit build so I just did athena and arthritis trinket to help out. Usually getting the gods ya want makes the game a bit easier
Oh god I hate Theseus' second phase so much
I hate theseus in general
the acorn looks amazing i'm giving nectar to my girl next time, could use it on the Hydra to prepare myself for Elysium
The entire arena blows up
bone hourglass is the real winner
That was my first one, actually
Yeah acorn is a real life saver
I agree it is such a carry
why block damage when i can just outdps the boss?
how do you get acorn?
Despite its innocuous description
You give Eurydice nectar
It's Eurydice's keepsake
Meg best girl, fight me
Artemis
those should probably be spoilered in the discussion section
Ayer, watch spoilers
meg is definitely the better fury
i will because dusa is the indisputed best girl and meg is the inferior waifu
Agreed arte best girl
🔫 
Artemis best girl, fight NotVolty and I
But I've started this waifu war waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too many times
That makes 3 of us
So imma just leave it at that
Jesus i hated her so much when she always whipped me straight to the house, now i like her lol
high five me
there is no such thing as enough waifu wars
My bad
@patent topaz i think you may have developed stockholme syndrome's from all the whipping
Who?
eurydice
She is in Asphodel
Meg is that one girl who I hope ends up liking me in the end ok
ok
yeah, eurydice is in the lava river
You know how you meet Sisyphus?
Her room is such a breath of fresh air
She is the same kind of NPC
Im only at bone hydra
Why start a waifu war when poligamy exists
Nah
Ashley's voice is amazing
She is before that
oh
I'm sorry Meg >>>>> Artemis, she's more mature and her voice is 
because ares and aphrodite demand so
You don't meet her in every run
I don't even care I'm spitting fax
Artemis is so awkward and adorable and that's just my prefered type of trope in video game girls
If you are in Asphodel, you can find her in the ! room with the grey background
Bro, Meg's voice. Literally nothing else matters 
Several people are typing...
Artemis made me like cast builds and got me my first ever win. For that I will die for her
Don't get me wrong, I love meg but Artemis is just such a sweet heart
remember the reason we have Achilles angst is because of a waifu war, right?
Dude same
sisyphus
i do agree that meg's voice makes for good ASMR material
shame she doesn't make for good waifu material though 
You'll get her in a few runs
Artemis' tried to shoot me with arrows after I picked Zeus over her or something like that
Oof
You will see her eventually
So no
Big burn
I guess
Hey your fault for not picking best girl
watch me never get her
Maybe you have already but didn't pick the correct room
I understand why she got pissed
I only say that so I get her next run
That's night impossible not to see her lol
it'll eventually happen with all the olympians once you get enough trials of the gods rooms
AVOID PISSING OFF ARES LIKE THE PLAGUE, IF YOU GET ARES AND SOMEONE ELSE CHOOSE WHOEVER IS NOT ARES
What
watch
Oh
by saying this, ill see her
Language
dij
There are kids in this server
Shades, man, use polite language
Like me
i angered ares once
it was more than enough to learn my lesson 
I'm 5
what was said 😐
Literally got her cast and I'm like oh this is cool and then I got every cast boon from her including her legendary and I was like so this is what it feels like to be a god. Demeter got me my first 16 heat win with demeter fist as well so I respect her as well. Still havent got 32 heat yet but I got an idea that involves athena artemtis and demeter fist
Kinda
Keep it pg 13
It was pg 13
My mommy is gonna go crazy up in here if she sees a curse word
i uh, i pissed off ares, is it that bad...?
Keep it pg10
It also was
eep it pg 2
@patent topaz prepare for death by blender
Nah you can keep pissing off the gods all the time
Don't piss off Aphrodite
^
Her trial is the worst
Don't piss of Athena
What I tried to say was
literally I had to deal with aphrodite on my first trial
aphrodite's trial is surprisingly manageable imo
I had no clue what the hell was gonna happen
just keep an eye on the hearts and dash away from em
just don't piss off anyone, got it 😂
Too many people typing too many things ahhhhh
ares though
Athena's is the only one I actively avoid facing
She wastes so much time it ends all my runs
See NotVolty and I are like on the same wavelength. Never piss off athena
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
that was painful
athena's not that bad since she only makes things briefly invincible
Athana is fine
NO if you ever have a chance to take two boons over one I say take it
ares summoning blenders on your ass is painful though
Nah Meg is a good waifu, she's a mature working woman who's tired of Zagreus' antics but still treats him not that badly and calls him "Zag". And her voice. B e s t G i r l
Not on tight deadline
fair
Athena is my lord and savior in asphodel, now i'm addicted to deflect
help
Artemis is best girl since she doesn't go crazy when you have her trial.
Tight Deadline and pissing off Athena is a big no-no
She is nice about it
@patent topaz you are doomed
there is no cure for athena addiction
She does though
because deflection memes are too fun to not do them
Too bad she is your cousin
She went "Oh, time for target practice again" like wth
Athena's bow special 
But then again that has never stopped the Greek gods
heyo incest is a thing
yeah, athena bow special is a lifesaver
Or Alabama
...
banjo music starts
Meg is still best girl idc
Ayer no
Yes
Bad Ayer
reminder that you're engaging in incest if you date ||Thanatos|| i even made a family tree to prove it
Meg is second best
Smart Ayer
Silly Ayer
Read my argument about why she's best girl and tell me what you disagree with
Bad Ayer
reminder that you're engaging in incest if you date ||Thanatos|| i even made a family tree to prove it
@sage marten BANJO MUSIC
Chaos
|
———
| |
Nyx Ouranos
| |
Than Titans
|
Olympians
|
Zag
BEHOLD
THE GREEK BANJO MUSIC
Incest is wincest
this is of course assuming they went with theogony canon and didn't do their own thing with ouranos
/s ofc
This discussion has the potential to go real off the rail
honestly tho i met thanatos the first time and-
godDARN the gay tension is strong
It went off a long time ago

