Every time you beat a boss at a new amount of heat, youll get a Bounty
#h1-discussion
livid cargo
safe crow
Heat doesn't affect darkness, but on every new heat difficulty you are eligible to get new bountirs
coarse nebula
That’s nice
safe crow
If you want to grind darkness, you can play on a difficulty you already beat, as that will giarantee darkness instead of bounty
safe crow
Keep in mind each weapon has their own bounty levels for each levels so you want to essentially beat the gane on each weapon, then swap to darkness amped weapon everytime if you wanna grind the most
coarse nebula
ok
novel jacinth
I couldn't beat the third boss before but now when using a fightstick I can lmao
opaque nexus
A what
flint gust
IIRC fightsticks are arcade-style fighting game controllers with a 4-6 button layout and a big analog stick
opaque nexus
Oh, those
midnight salmon
i achieved 105% damage resist from the front
oop double counted one
only 90
not sure its working at 90% though
novel jacinth
20 runs with keyboard get to third boss 1 run with fightstick beat the entire game
I beat hades with it
I play fighting games so much that I can use a fightstick for anything sometimes better than a controller lmao
Lol
safe crow
Sounds like a typical FGC moment
novel jacinth
Also beast in black is great music for killing final bosses
I only needed 2 of my three death defys to lol
opaque nexus
I like that hades' favorite song is the death theme that made me laugh
safe crow
One thing I do love with the game is that most songs have the "Death" litmotif, which is great
And Hades' theme is just cranked up version of "No Escape"
hexed smelt
i love how thanatos's theme has the tolling bell from his attacks in it
safe crow
When the ||last room|| and the loading screen sounds the same, just different intensity
Some real good thematic resonance
novel jacinth
cool
midnight salmon
ive got 9 casts FULL cast build rn w/ poseidon's aspect
melted the heroes in under 1 minute
worn creek
Hey guys quick question. Is there a way to access the end game screen other than completing a run? You know, the one with your clear times and all?
safe crow
I once had Hera Bow with full artemis Cast build
Apparently I can one shot Mini Bosses as it turns out
ember stirrup
@worn creek Not yet but there should be
worn creek
@ember stirrup Ok thanks! It should be a section in the codex or something
Or maybe a renovation in Zagreus' room
brisk trail
I suppose we can't upload pictures like memes or gifs or anything, right? Would have tried the art place, but it's about art and strictly to Hades from what I've seen.
There is no button to upload stuff in the off topic's chat.
you can't upload anything anywhere in this server anyway
gotta copy external links
chilly stump
Direct uploads aren't enabled, but you're still welcome to share images in link form here if they relate to the channel topic/conversation.
People use all sorts of image hosting, but imgur is a common one.
brisk trail
Except the art channel which again, is dedicated in personal created art and strictly to Hades.
Thanks, Caitlin.
not strictly hades
just anything supergiant
brisk trail
Nah.
@midnight salmon Skelly can make you waste runs for the-you-know-what-things, so, yeah, my poor Tardigrade.
zag sword is aight, don't diss it
midnight salmon
just got one of those you know what things. pretty cool
brisk trail
The second aspect is really good for the sword.
midnight salmon
i love poseidon aspect. exit wound caster was actually probably my favourite run so far
safe crow
Nemesis with Chop upgrade is pretty 
edgy tendon
Got a 300 damage auto attack with the help of chop upgrade lol
brisk trail
critless i assume?
edgy tendon
Yup
safe crow
When the sword becomes BATTALE AXE
brisk trail
i prefer thwacking away with flurry
What's the chop's ability name? I may have gotten it but I've forgotten most of the names already..
but both are great
world splitter
edgy tendon
My apologies mister theseus, but you have been chopped.
edgy tendon
Hammer
alpine stratus
world splitter?
vague helm
Just wondering where can i submit a bug report
hexed smelt
press f10 ingame!
analog hornet
has it been suggested yet to make internal troves be able to be opened quicker once you've beaten the room?
slash is there a way to request that
vague helm
Is that where u submit gameplay bugs as well?
proud orbit
Yep, if you experience a bug in game use F10
If you have feedback which is not a bug then use #hades-feedback
candid pine
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/457639241615409173/662426774512205834/unknown.png?width=861&height=485 is this worth the change?
spiral sun
If i can ask a dumb question here, why is the shield showing +20% darkness and is that temporary or permanent?
proud orbit
It's temporary
candid pine
It's for 1 run
proud orbit
It picks a random weapon each time out of the the ones you didn't use last
And that has 20% bonus darkness for the next run
spiral sun
oh thats kinda neat, this will only be my like... 7th run, so it seems worth it
proud orbit
Yep if you need darkness good idea to follow the dark thirst buff
spiral sun
tyvm
sick escarp
Yeah I’ve been following the dark thirst until Ive maxed everything, it also helps you get accustomed all the weapons. I’ve respected all the weapons a lot more due to the process and learning how to play them effectively with appropriate boons.
opal isle
what is the point of darkness after the mirror is all maxed?
novel jacinth
How much do you need to max mirror?
proud orbit
LOTS
Well not much other than the boon rarity and fated authority
But I'm not sure on how much for those
To unlock all non-Boon, non-Fated Authority upgrades requires 3400 Darkness; including the Boon upgrades takes this total to 8400 Darkness.Including Fated Authority, the current total required to max out the Mirror is 173,400 Darkness.
From the wiki
brisk trail
I don't think those numbers are 100% accurate.
proud orbit
Could be old patch ye
lament hawk
-Googled the voice cast to double check if Logan was the voice of Hades and found out he's the voice of 4 other major characters also- 😲 😲 😲 😲 😲
strong heron
logan cunningham is a man of many talents
tranquil prairie
Is there any reason for me to pick up keys now that I've unlocked everything in the mirror
strong heron
if you have the contractor upgrade that gives you +1 fated authority
also, you can trade them up for nectar
lament hawk
Is there a specific set of rules that the fated authority reroll follows?
like a tier list where they stay in the same lane (nectar/darkness/gems seem more likely to reroll into each other?)
strong heron
i think so, but idr off the top of my head-- i know there's a chart or list around here somewhere though.....?
odd bramble
Logan voices the sports commentator in Pyre, so you could tell me he voices every guy in this game and I'd believe it
novel jacinth
Yes there's a set of rule
Ok so boons coins pom and Daedalus all reroll into eachother everything else rolls into everything else only
odd bramble
There are blue laurels and gold laurels
novel jacinth
?
brisk trail
Hearts also roll with boons and company.
lament hawk
30+ runs in and I'm not sure I've ever noticed laurels
brisk trail
They are represented by gold laurels around door entrances.
odd bramble
brisk trail
Only a little old.
Replace Heat with Gemstones and update Skeleton Keys to Chthonic and it's perfect.
brisk trail
Yooo.
novel jacinth
Infernal gate challenge?
odd bramble
Higher heat
novel jacinth
Oh never done heat yet
Just beat the game for the first time
With a fightstick and power metal
Lol
odd bramble
I forget if there's a renovator contract or if they just start showing up
safe crow
I think you mean infernal trove?
odd bramble
Erebus
safe crow
Oh erebus gates
novel jacinth
No I have trove
safe crow
Yeah you need to renovate em
safe crow
Essentially those are "extra challenges" you can take to gain extra rewards
novel jacinth
Wait nectar gives boon levels?
oak knot
Mirror upgrade
safe crow
Most are kill #of enemies to gain (something)
Not mirror upgrade
But another renovation
oak knot
Oh wait my bad it's from the contractor
brisk trail
Contractor, not mirror.
novel jacinth
How hard is max heat?
brisk trail
45? Legitimately impossible.
brisk trail
I'd like to see a TAS'd perfect build.
novel jacinth
Well with tas you could do it with no boons
oak knot
It's impossible to have a perect build with budget cuts and no choice
brisk trail
No, you couldn't kill everything fast enough.
novel jacinth
Oh ya
I meant perfect 45 heat build
With tas and a perfect 45 heat build you could do it but
oak knot
Also with a shield too because i don't think other weapons is possible
oak knot
With budget cuts you probably only have 1 cast unless you invest all the darkness into it
oak knot
I guess so
novel jacinth
Also general sword build might work
oak knot
Yeah also sword 
brisk trail
What, 45 Heat?
novel jacinth
Ya
novel jacinth
I'm talking bout tas
Not human
Bow seems possible but only barely
Poison railgun maybe if perfect
brisk trail
Zeus would clear faster.
novel jacinth
Wait is railgun zues good?
brisk trail
All the weapons can get the right DPS set-up.
oak knot
Zeus and Artemis
brisk trail
Highest single god DPS in the game outside very specific Artemis builds.
gray scroll
just had a nutty hera aspect (bow) run with shatter shot cast. the dps felt really good
brisk trail
Okay, but just Aphrodite?
safe crow
What's TAS again
brisk trail
Tool-Assisted Superrun.
Basically, playing the game one frame at a time with rewinds when necessary.
safe crow
Dat sounds like big cheat mode
oak knot
Shatter shot is probably the 2nd strongest cast after festive fog but you can retrieve shatter shot quicker
brisk trail
Epic Phalanx Shot scales better.
gray scroll
i mean i had chaos +cast dmg and some other good stuff. only thing that was weird is how sometimes i could load up all 3 casts into one shot while sometimes it would show as 3 but only fire one
is that a bug or intended?
oak knot
Is it i rarely phalanx shot because it bounces on enemies and i have to wait for the casts to come out
brisk trail
Phalanx Shot doesn't bounce naturally. Electric Shot does, and Phalanx will if you get the Zeus/Athena Duo.
oak knot
Oh so the last time i tried it with duo boon
novel jacinth
Isn't Artemis cast best cast?
proud orbit
Ares's is with hunting blades anyway
novel jacinth
Na?
brisk trail
Artemis's is very good.
proud orbit
Which is the best does depend on the rest of your build tho
novel jacinth
Ya but overall Artemis is best I think
proud orbit
Decent assessment
novel jacinth
Po is good tho
brisk trail
Poseidon's Aspect is amazing and his boons are uniformly the worst in the game.
novel jacinth
No?
brisk trail
I might be a little harsh right now
oak knot
Hermes is universally good
proud orbit
Hermes worst boons??
brisk trail
My fastest clear was thanks to Zeus.
novel jacinth
Zues has no at and Hermes barely adds anything for me
Don't need speed need damage
proud orbit
Extra dashes is nutty
novel jacinth
Not really
gray scroll
returning casts are nutty aswell
novel jacinth
For me it isn't really
proud orbit
Also the speed boost after dash is insane
oak knot
Mobility is always good
novel jacinth
Haven't used em much
proud orbit
Dodge chance is nuts
novel jacinth
Na
proud orbit
Rapid fire casts is amazing
brisk trail
There's a lot more hours of experience saying Hermes is good.
novel jacinth
Idc
proud orbit
Oh oki
brisk trail
novel jacinth
Just saying posieoden ain't horrible
proud orbit
If he doesn't work for you that's fine
brisk trail
I didn't say he was horrible. I said he had the worst boons.
novel jacinth
How?
brisk trail
Knockback almost always actively hinders damage since it knocks them out of range, and they provide low damage.
Lower than every other % god except Artemis, except Artemis has crits.
novel jacinth
Not if you have range
novel jacinth
Also he has pretty good damage
brisk trail
Poseidon and Aphro should switch damage values.
proud orbit
Weak is always good but knock back is situational
oak knot
But poseidon is great for farming too, now that's infinite value
novel jacinth
Kb isn't situational?
novel jacinth
Knocking somone into walls does insane dmg if you chain it?
brisk trail
I prefer CC.
novel jacinth
Ok so
proud orbit
What if you're in a situation where you can't knock into walls
novel jacinth
Like what?
brisk trail
And then you've been surrounded because you could only single out a single enemy to corner.
lament hawk
Bosses
brisk trail
Bosses.
brisk trail
The most important encounter in the game.
brisk trail
Again, I'd so much rather have Artemis for crits or Athena or Aphrodite for more damage and better defense.
proud orbit
You can do decent damage without walls but aphro does more damage without walls
brisk trail
ares athena duo pogchamp
proud orbit
But you also get weak
novel jacinth
Ya but not worse than zues
proud orbit
Which is the best curse in the game
novel jacinth
I say zues Is worse
brisk trail
Eris Rail Zeus completely outdoes any Poseidon boon damage.
novel jacinth
Buff em both
oak knot
What does ares athena duo boon do again
brisk trail
Zeus is garbage
what do you mean zeus is worse
zeus has the best call in the game?
I hate that silly uncle
brisk trail
Zeus with high RPM builds is the strongest single god set-up in the game.
novel jacinth
That's dio
brisk trail
zeus is literally insane
novel jacinth
Now that's just wrong
brisk trail
Not at all the best. And I'd say Poseidon has one of the coolest.
proud orbit
Dio has the highest multi god setup
novel jacinth
Artemis cast and ares shield are stronger
brisk trail
his call does 98 damage per tick each tick is 0.2 seconds for 1.5 seconds, thats for the epic boon at level 1
proud orbit
He's not the highest dps unless you have aphro too
brisk trail
what are you talking about
brisk trail
3k
novel jacinth
Damn
brisk trail
well
novel jacinth
That op
brisk trail
2k multiple times
wild ingot
random question but is there a way to transfer my account from epic to steam?
brisk trail
Your save or your copy of the game?
wild ingot
The copy, I would like to have it on steam so that I can get rid of the epic launcher since I only have it for hades
brisk trail
Nope, sorry.
strong heron
no, you'll have to buy it again on steam.
paper ermine
This is probably my favorite game and I have only played 90 mins.
wild ingot
ah well, thanks for the answer!
paper ermine
Are you guys aware that when you go to the "House Contractor" the "Olive Drapery" upgrade currently is just a green square as it's texutre?
flat vapor
sick escarp
Lmao... I just realized something in the weapons room.
Wow I have I never noticed them.
golden plume
is there a way of recovering all of the trinkets
devout goblet
define recovering?
devout goblet
Don't think so. Though I also don't remember seeing a sheet on anything but the statues.
paper ermine
Yea, definitely my favorite game.
granite pecan
.....why would you not want to look at the progress you’ve unlocked?
golden plume
||they're ugly||
||they're like an extra punishment for doing the pact of punishment||
||it was a good gag on reveal but I don't want to have to look at them||
also just called them trinkets since that's what they're called in the book of fates
golden plume
yea I guess it is spoiling a joke, I put spoiler tags over that
paper ermine
❤️
halcyon herald
Anyone have any luck getting a nintendo switch controller to work with Hades?
Wait nvm.
I never set it in steam. My bad.
opaque nexus
Zag is considered to be best spear aspect right
oak knot
No that's Hades
proud orbit
Hades is cool but Zag is best
opaque nexus
I asked in 2 different channels are people saying different things
oak knot
Beat dad with his own spear, oh the sweet irony
proud orbit
Spear special is really good
opaque nexus
achilles seems to have more versatility
worst case it's a normal spear
allows you to get in and out of enemy range
oak knot
Achilles is the probably the most fun aspect, Hades is all around and Zag is great if you mainly use special
opaque nexus
does the damage bonus only affect attack
oak knot
Achilles is attack only, Hades is for all sources
opaque nexus
I don't even think I should upgrade achilles lul
lost pagoda
Where are we meant to submit bugs for hades? I've been binging it all day for 2 days now and just ran into 2 minor issues
opaque nexus
proud orbit
Hades is only special and non spin attack
torpid vessel
I still say achilles purely because being able to do things like spear throw to cross platforms, cover distances, get behind cover, etc.
Its just such a huge buff to mobility with literally nothing lost
The dash seems to have serious i-frames too
edgy tendon
Is zeus aspect of shield supposed to be good or am I bad with it
brisk trail
Chaos is the best shield aspect. It's the only one I manages to beat 32 heat on
edgy tendon
Yeah I went with chaos but I tried zeus once and it was just....disssaaapointtinngggg
opaque nexus
why does multi skewer suck
low phoenix
I really like multiskewer for spreading doom effects
its pretty fun with Ares Doom, Poseidon Ruptured or Zeus Jolted
Artemis dmg increase and crit chance also make it pretty powerfull!
static wadi
rip
alpine stratus
HGFVGHFGH
proud orbit
I'm not bad when I go into Erebus I totally intend to get onions yes yes
Just filling out my codex!
wraith cipher
whats erebus?
proud orbit
House contractor upgrade required too
wraith cipher
interesting
deep spade
Achillies spear damage boost is not attack only. It also affects your cast.
edgy tendon
It says next cast or attack tho
deep spade
There was achilles aspect discussion farther up and someone said it was only attack
It lasts for 2 hits, so you can either attack into a charge spin, or get two massive damage casts off
deep spade
Not for casts that embed, I feel
but for e.g. Festive Fog or Spinning Blades, I think it's better
proud orbit
What's the damage bonus at lvl 5
deep spade
150%
proud orbit
And poseiden is 50?
deep spade
yup
deep spade
yes
static wadi
but find HB is hard
deep spade
it absolutely is. I had a hunting blades achilles spear run that was just crazy easy
proud orbit
Don't think I've ever found hunting blades tbh lol
Maybe once
I just rarely take Ares cast
deep spade
and the spear mobility also lets you pick up your dropped gems much easier, so it's really good for non-embed casts all around
static wadi
dio cast may be good too
edgy tendon
said that
static wadi
but i think it's better with Hera
rich terrace
So uh, is it normal for the game to refuse to minimize? I keep trying to Ctrl-Esc but nothing really works, really frustrating. Is there a way to fix this?
static wadi
mb try #h1-tech-support
rich terrace
Oh, ok
nocturne fractal
my best combo so far
so broken
i deal 900-2000 per hit
i finished hades in few hits xD
opaque nexus
is there something I'm missing with spear
even with crit it doesn't feel as strong as it should be
brisk trail
Achilles Aspect, reset the seed until you spawn into Quick Spin, look for Deadly Strike.
opaque nexus
is there an easy way to reset seed other than dying
brisk trail
No.
opaque nexus
special crit seems like a safer option lul
oak knot
Spear special is probably the best special with the right hammer upgrades, especially the ones that give you crits on return and deal more damage to armor
Or just pick flurry jab and try to find zeus and artemis boons
edgy glade
Hey y'all, I take it the feedback channel requires a certain rank or something
brisk trail
Pinned messages.
pallid stirrup
So im really 50/50 on buying this game, I've never played a title by Supergiant and it looks amazing, i just need that extra push, what is your favorite thing about thins game?
brisk trail
The character interaction. Almost every single line is voiced and they range from heartbreaking to hilarious to bonechilling. It's very good.
pallid stirrup
would you say this game is more narrative focused?
or is it more mechanics driven
brisk trail
Narrative and mechanics
opaque nexus
it has good gameplay and story but they're phenomenal when paired together
pallid stirrup
would you say this game is easy for someone whos not the best at roguelikes to pick up
opaque nexus
yes
brisk trail
Yeah somewhat
pallid stirrup
you guys should work for marketing
opaque nexus
no
sour parcel
just spam dash lol
pallid stirrup
I am not great at games like deadcells or gungeon, do you think ill have the same difficulty here
pallid stirrup
Gungeon has mellowed out its just so bullet helly i have issues sometimes
opaque nexus
I think Gungeon is amazing and one of the best roguelikes ever made but I'm having more fun playing this after over 350 hours of it @pallid stirrup
pallid stirrup
is this a spam at it kinda game like beat em ups? or a methodical game|
opaque nexus
if you go full spam you're gonna die
brisk trail
You can spam early or with very busted builds, but you need to be a little more methodical as the game goes on.
pallid stirrup
Final question , i promise, without being too spoilery, what has been your favorite moment thus far?
opaque nexus
some people would say that early access is an excuse to not put your best foot forward and say "eh we'll add it later" but this could be a full game on its own
sour parcel
when I won
brisk trail
Story moment, end of a romance.
opaque nexus
I just recently started actually paying attention to the story
also, best part of this game is skelly
he's a masochistic skeletal training dummy
brisk trail
The best part is beating the game and then you’ll find out
pallid stirrup
with that i thank you everyone, I get paid in 3 hours, and I'll be in Hell shortly after!
brisk trail
Or using the gun
opaque nexus
Hypnos is pretty great
there's gonna be a new update later this month so start grinding now
pallid stirrup
I have watched NorthernLion a little with this game but not too much as to spoil it
opaque nexus
NL is known for being dumb at games lol
opaque nexus
one of my favorite streamers Vinny from Vinesauce started playing it
pallid stirrup
Tetris 99 tho
opaque nexus
good times
brisk trail
To realistic
pallid stirrup
i like Tarky, but holy hell is it hard
But yeah im convinced
i needed a roguelike in my life
opaque nexus
I seriously think this could be one of the all time best roguelikes of all time when it's finished
brisk trail
I hope we can ||fight the gods|| soon
opaque nexus
so good I said all time twice
pallid stirrup
ever since i finished DarkestDungeon on its hardest difficulty ive had an itch
opaque nexus
DD is amazingt
pallid stirrup
an infuriating mess and it will kill your will to live from time to time
but yes
1 of the greats
opaque nexus
I haven't finished it but I played a little and I'm not the biggest fan of turn based combat in general
is there a word for the artstyle of that game
pallid stirrup
im not sure
but its great, my final DD mission on darkest ooooof
i lost 17 times
opaque nexus
Hades has some really really hard optional post-game but I'll wait for you to find what that is
pallid stirrup
id leave it for a week, still fuming, then go back
opaque nexus
I think the highest possible difficulty for this game is impossible or requires perfect rng and TAS-level gameplay so yeah
opaque nexus
oh the way the game starts is great
it doesn't feel overwhelming
ok I'm gonna stop singing my praises and let you think for yourself when you get it
brisk trail
Everything is good expect the bow
opaque nexus
shhh
brisk trail
It’s true!
stable dagger
I hate the gun
It just feels so wimpy compared to stabbing things or shooting them
and base damage is nothing
stable dagger
I'll have to try that
rough torrent
Add in Artemis's support fire and your primary is pretty much doubled.
proud orbit
Poison on attack also works really well
Then if you consider aspects, Hestia completely changes the playstyle
oak knot
change the playstyle as in instead of holding the attack button, you press it once
proud orbit
oak knot
BFG is just Hera bow + Aphrodite cast
safe crow
@novel jacinth hey my dude, there is no way not to phrase this without sounding rude/like a butt but I feel like ya should play the game like, put at least 10 more hours in before tryna put down some feedbacks
novel jacinth
Fair
brittle tide
hey guys, how do i get my charge of games?
halcyon herald
Damn. Just got to the last boss for the first time. That was intense.
jade wigeon
is hades on consoles yet?
jade wigeon
yeah
shame vibration bugs it out ;-;
was just thinking of telling my ps4 only friend to get it
alpine quest
Man I beat my first run off Hades using the nemesis aspect stygian blade. I did not think the sword was that op of a weapon but I certainly made it strong XD
brisk trail
That’s the crit one right?
Wouldn’t it be cool to have something like Isaac where you reroll boons
mint scaffold
I dunno if anyone else brought this up. But I'm pondering the ending of the game, the part after the Hades fight. And I'm interested in seeing some of the above world of Greek mythology. Maybe a town or a situation that has Zag running from the Olympians to find Persephone.
coarse junco
Yeah. Nemesis sword is a beast. I got to the final boss with that build. I don’t like how it’s reliant on using your Q for extra damage though. I’ve taken a bit too much damage at times due to animation lock
proud orbit
@mint scaffold spoilers
coarse junco
Also, holy cow the Heavy swing sword augment is badass.
brisk trail
What’s that
proud orbit
World Splitter
I think he means
Replaces your attack with a single attack which does 90 base damage
brisk trail
Is it good
coarse junco
It is
brisk trail
I pick the armor one
coarse junco
Especially if you run Artemis
Backstab crit with the mirror bonus with nemesis aspect...
I was hitting 500 or so on nemesis with crit. If I had Athena’s dash that run maybe I could have beat the final boss...
odd bramble
You don't need Athena dash to win runs
alpine quest
Yeah I got area do attacks for the basic attack, had the world chopper for the big damage but managed to get some Artemis passives for crits. I was doing around 500-600 damage on a swing for a crit and then proccing ares after the special nova slam.
sonic talon
I'm guessing either Demeter or Tyche.
ember stirrup
I'm over 100 runs into this game and have yet to trigger the Dionysus discussion that leads to the Zagreus song
burnt breach
is the story based on a book or was made up by the team?
gleaming crane
Characters are based on greek mythology but the story is made up by the team.
proud orbit
It's an original story based on the setting of Greek mythology
thorny dust
Ummmmm Some historical/mythological references are made
modern laurel
basically a fanfic
thorny dust
With the whole Zagreus family plot I won't spoil
north hazel
is it possible to buy all weapon upgrades and forms?
bitter valve
of course
north hazel
sweet thanks (:
gleaming crane
Even if you couldn't get enough titan blood from bounties because you're having trouble with heat, you can get it at the broker. No resource is limited in amount.
hybrid mulch
I'm having trouble getting Titan blood and diamonds. The boss fights are only offering darkness on most runs.
proud orbit
You only get the reward once
So switch to another weapon or you have to use heat uwu
mortal palm
i'm mostly having problems finishing the game so I get refreshed bounties :c
hybrid mulch
Not sure what heat is. I only started playing a couple days ago. I haven't beaten the game yet.
oak knot
they're some conditions to make the game harder, you can gradually increase them to unlock more rewards
oak knot
nah you need to beat the game first
oak knot
that's great, you're almost there
hybrid mulch
Nice!
dire stratus
is there no way to open the locked doors
oak knot
SG probably hasn't implemented it yet
hard thicket
I hope advertising Hades related stuff doesn't violate any rules but I haven't read about in #readme-first, so I'd like to share my Steam review of the game:
https://steamcommunity.com/id/Manostion/recommended/1145360/
vernal wagon
hey guys, when a god grows displeased, does that have any actual lasting consequences, or is it literally just for that one encounter?
uncut thorn
for that one encounter
the gods are fickle and petty sorts
too absorbed in themselves to hold a grudge
vernal wagon
yeah they're proud beings for sure
zenith torrent
i always feel so bad in those rooms
i almost avoid them for narrative reasons even though they're beneficial for the success of the run
oak knot
i feel bad for Artemis sometimes, but she is kinda adorable when she is angry
zenith torrent
i refuse to disappoint artemis
oak knot
fair fair, but i want to see all the dialogues, i must screenshot them all
zenith torrent
good point...
there's some really esoteric friggin' circumstances under which some of the dialogue appears though.
oak knot
yup especially the duo boon dialogues, i think they should show up the first time you get them
almost 100 hours and i have only seen like half of them
zenith torrent
imagine hunting for it all each new update
oak knot
oh the grind 
zenith torrent
i'm probably going to be putting like, around 10h per big update
oak knot
same, or maybe a little more for me and way more when the new weapon comes out
zenith torrent
not like it's hard to reach since a single run is between 35-45 minutes anyway
when's the new weapon coming out anyway
dusky meteor
There's a new weapon? :O what would it be?
zenith torrent
saw it in the documentary
in the uh dev docs on noclip
they were talking about a gun with which you can move at the same time
like a twinstick sorta thing
hexed smelt
uh, that was the rail while it was in development
hexed smelt
yeah
gleaming crane
I'd like another fully melee weapon.
hexed smelt
i want magic :(
gleaming crane
We've got bow and rail for range, both spear and shield have both melee and range, only sword is full melee.
zenith torrent
hm. a whip?
dusky meteor
Axe or daggers maaybe
gleaming crane
Could work. Although I'm more fond of hammers, personally.
dusky meteor
Oooh hammer
zenith torrent
i think whips have more potential in being more different from swords than just hammers and axes
oak knot
Or a scythe
gleaming crane
But in any case, I'd really like a new melee weapon, especially since I kinda took to the sword in the last few updates. Used to love spear and bow and hate sword and shield, I now still love bow, hate spear, like sword, shield and rail.
zenith torrent
i love the spear
dusky meteor
Hahah yeah. I was thinking along whips or scythes. And Meg and Than can rip Zag about him using their weapon styles
zenith torrent
it's so good
winter stump
what about gauntlets or gloves
oak knot
That's plausible too
winter stump
or it will be like a magic staff
gleaming crane
Brass knuckles made with Cerberus' baby teeth.
weak stag
a hammer from hephaestus maybe
winter stump
there ias already a spear and sword i dont think the would do another melee weapon
gleaming timber
I fell in love with the sword with Nemesis aspect. Artemis runs are pretty fun
But I'm still a bow guy
winter stump
i might be daggers or something
zenith torrent
magic would definitely have some variance though, so it's a good idea
winter stump
assasin gameplay
zenith torrent
like summoning magic from the sky or whatever
triggered bombs and traps only
something novel
yeah i feel like there's already kind of enough melee anyway
and almost everything has some kind of range ability
gleaming crane
@winter stump Spear, just like shield, has a melee attack and ranged special. Bow and rail have a ranged attack and ranged special. Sword is the only weapon with a melee attack and melee special, so melee is underrepresented in the current version.
zenith torrent
sure but melee and ranged aren't the only options
so it might be nice to do something completely different
winter stump
i get your point but where could you make more melee and it still feel different from the other melee weapons
zenith torrent
something much heavier?
like the hammer. bouncing off the ground for combos or something
winter stump
i feel like another melee weapon wouldnt be worth the space
zenith torrent
a weapon that relies entirely on dashing?
winter stump
nah that just ruins the versatility
just need to think about a playstyle that isnt used yet
gleaming crane
Look at Bastion. Plenty of melee weapons there, all different.
winter stump
yes but you need to think about the context of the game
zenith torrent
i kinda like the idea of summoning like pillars of light that can be triggered. something like that which falls outside range and melee
or maybe something more strategic than reactionary. would need to think about what it would be though.
red coral
I would love to see meelee weapons with a different shape of movement, like a ball and chain (though I guess that has some range) or a hammer
winter stump
most weapons can develop into a strategic place using boons etc.
winter stump
maybe a dual wield weapon i think
zenith torrent
if it was less predictable and had its own physics
or rather, predictable, but had its own physics
dunno if the movement system of the game would support something like momentum on the ball though
maybe just right stick control + some momentum preservation
dusky meteor
If similar to the bombardment bounciness against walls. Probs
oak knot
maybe a ranged weapon but close quarter special for a change, normal attack stacks some kind of effect on enemies and special activates all those stacks in a radius around you, it would require a bit more setup and encourage you to take Hermes attack boon, a bit worse in normal encounters but absolute crush bosses
winter stump
i feel like a ball and chain just doesnt fit with the game feel and pace
zenith torrent
actually i kinda love the idea of like a target on the screen that you control at all times separate from your character and then "launch" whenever you attack
dusky meteor
But also needs to be a weapon that can be attributed to some gods bc of the aspects thing i feel
zenith torrent
like "dropping the wrath of the gods" on the enemies you know?
red coral
Ball n chain is just the shackles of Prometheus 👀
zenith torrent
2 whips seems kinda funny. it's not really the kinda weapon to be dual wielded
worthy canopy
after taking exploding spear the bounce buff is useless?
red coral
Oooo whips with a Megaera aspect
zenith torrent
whips have the potential for some cool "tie the enemy down" effects though
like "tie enemy, throw at others" kinda thing
winter stump
thats why i thought 2 would be necessary
zenith torrent
megaera's whip attack is basically the spear's held X attack though
winter stump
what about just pure melee with like kicking and punching
maybe a special set of armour
zenith torrent
maybe if it's executed well
winter stump
and everything is just based around armour uprgrades idk
zenith torrent
ok actually... something that's WAY different would be nice. to completely throw the gameplay loop on its head
of course it'd be really annoying to design
red coral
Ooo boxing gloves could be cool
zenith torrent
and make work with the existing boons
flint gust
An axe. Give us Asterius aspect.
oak knot
Scythe with Thanatos aspect
weak stag
daggers with artemis aspect
zenith torrent
makes all enemies pissed at your arrogance, deal and receive 20% more damage
unwelcome pustule
oak knot
*makes all enemies go blind because of your sheer radiance
gleaming crane
Hammer with Daedalus aspect. Changes the Daedalus hammers to give upgrades from other weapons (only those that'd make sense, or slightly altered to make sense).
dusky meteor
Infinite throwing hammers like the rail 😂
flint gust
You can no longer buy Yarn of Ariadne with Theseus spear, since you no longer care about her because its the past.
You also have a suspiciously familiar bull plushie to summon Asterius.
zenith torrent
no weapon. you are literally forced to bait every enemy in for trap kills.
have fun.
gleaming crane
Theseus spear could change your spin into that one jump attack Asterius has.
oak knot
i want Asterius charge but it's probably too op, like shield charge but you can easily change direction
elfin kite
Hi everyone! I have an suggestion how to make building bonds in Hades a bit more interactive:
Overall the system is great, but it would be awesome to get a feedback from it, e.g.
- Amount of hearts (nectars given) to an Olimpian God increases chances for rare+ boon modifiers
- If you discard a boon from a god in double boon room, you lose one heart if you have more than 2 and boons from this god for this room have chances to become rre as if you have just one heart
- if you do not go to a room with a boon, you lose one heart if you have 7+ hearts. is not affected by chaos/hell gates
- 7+ hearts with Achilles adds a chance for him to spawn in a random room, fight by your side and award you with a Pom if room was finished quickly
- 7+ hearts with Thanatos adds a chance for his insta-kill effect apply to a regular foe randomly
- 7+ hearts with Orpheus adds a chance for him to spawn in Thanatos and apply weak on all foes by singing
- Every heart with Charon gives 1% discount in his shop
- 7+ hearts with Cerberus makes him mark a room with a sack with his fur (smth we saw in the kitchen) - should help all speedrunners to remove RNG factor
- For every character 7th heart is unlocked by Ambrosia once. In all other cases Nectar gives you +1 heart
etc.etc Let me know what you think guys!
fickle jewel
elfin kite
And for Pact of Punishment... I think some of its conditions just remove a bit of fun. I believe oone plays with limiting boon choices to 1, as well as 100% uneffective health pickups. At the same time +100 foe attack and move speed should be doable, but we are limited to +50%
zenith torrent
losing hearts that easily is a bit brutal
you'd basically never recover
you cannot get that many nectars in the first place, and you'd certainly lose more hearts in each run than you could ever replenish
west holly
Maybe make it 3x bad rep = -1 heart
elfin kite
yes, probably losing hearts is a bit too much. but in double boon room there should be adifference what you pick and what you discard. second boon choices should be less powerful. otherwise I choose not the god I prefer but the one that is easier to beat
red coral
Hey @elfin kite! Looks like you have a lot of neat feedback. Read the pinned message in #hades-feedback to get the early access role and leave your feedback there, where it’s more likely to be seen by developers!
elfin kite
Looks like #hades-feedback is closed for now
@zenith torrent on a second thought, yes, losing hearts is too brutal. it should never happen
the whole idea was not to make the game easier, but to have a feedback from building bonds. I think this system could replace mirror upgrades for boon rarity
winter stump
the feedback chat isnt close
gleaming crane
Hearts are supposed to be more story-line things. Gives you specific dialogue when giving nectar. Being able to lose hearts would mean having to gain them back and either the writers having to write a lot more dialogue or you just seeing the same one over and over as you pick trials of the gods. As for rewards above a certain amount of hearts, we already have that for a few characters. I suspect there might be something for every character as more storylines get added.
As for #hades-feedback read the pins, it tells you there what you need to do to be able to write there.
elfin kite
really, probably it takes some time for Early Access to activate. Just posted my suggestion, losing hearts removed
red coral
Make sure to split each new suggestion into a unique message! We can’t log it unless it’s like that.
elfin kite
got it
vernal wagon
hey guys is there a way to check how many death defiance passives you have left?
I paused my playthrough for a while and now I forget whether I still have it or not 🤔
dusky meteor
Lower left! Above your health bar
vernal wagon
the little zagreus icon?
paper ermine
Is Titan's Blood worth trading for 150 gems, even though I have not used any Titan's Blood yet?
oak knot
if you haven't used any then no
paper ermine
Didn't think so, thanks.
gleaming crane
True, as it is, your suggestion is actually a lot of suggestions. People might not like some of them but like others, so several messages would be better.
As it is, I feel like we've got more than enough rarity boosts in the game and having hearts act this way too would either make all of the end game epic boons or all of the early game common boons, which is no fun. Having a drawback to the boon from the god you spurned seems like a good idea to me. Your suggestions for Achilles, Thanatos and Orpheus seem way too OP to me, making any run where you don't get lucky enough to trigger them worthless for speedrunners, and adding to the RNG a lot. I do like your Cerberus idea though, knowing where the Satyr sack is could be an interesting feature. Charon's one doesn't really seem interesting. Currently, the devs have done something for 4 of the characters when you have lots of hearts, and it's probably gonna go up to 6 of them. I'm also guessing we might have some different kinds of bonuses with others, so who knows what they're gonna do.
dire stratus
Thanatos legit 9999 dmg insta kill
slender zodiac
How the heck do avoid hades huge spin atacks?
elfin kite
just removed this huge suggestion and made two smaller ones, more straight-forward
@slender zodiac usually by getting at least +1 dash from Hermes
slender zodiac
I had that and even then i could't beat half of his health
gleaming crane
You have more time to react to this attack than to others. Gives time to block with shield or dash.
You have some i-frames with the dash, and you can also use it to get out of the way (unless you were getting really aggressive and in his face, but that's on you)
slender zodiac
The block doesn't often work
gleaming crane
Also, please discuss anything spoilers in #h1-story-discussion or #h1-builds-and-combat, wouldn't want people to know about potential late-game stuff when they're just starting the game.
elfin kite
makes sense
dire stratus
for me i just spammed
or u could go defensive and just like block everything
cuz shield=op
red coral
@slender zodiac please spoiler tag the name of the final boss!
dire stratus
btw will there be a aspect of the shield that deflects
or maybe absorb the damage done and like gives a buff
gleaming crane
An aspect of the shield that deflects would probably make Athena worthless for this aspect. Not really a good idea.
dire stratus
then how bout absorb dmg
gleaming crane
If you mean it as some kind of berserk thing (take damage to get stronger), I guess it could work.
dire stratus
i meant u like absorb damage by blocking and gain a buff or smthn
red coral
It might work as a “10% for 2 seconds after catching your shield from special” or something!
elfin kite
next 2 attacks could be stronger, like Spear does
dire stratus
thats what i was thinking
shield is alr op in my opinion so maybe shield will be debuffed instead idk
the blade is 2nd op for me and spear is third
red coral
I’m probably one of the only players who doesn’t think shield is OP tbh
dire stratus
but why
red coral
It’s an entry-level weapon, it’s meant to boost the confidence of new and casual gamers before they explore the possibilities of faster or more interesting options
gleaming crane
Pretty much. Using shield to block attacks means you don't really learn the enemy patterns and how to dodge them. That's why all the other weapons seem inferior.
dire stratus
surprisingly the stygian blade is kinda strong
red coral
I’m getting better at sword, I think that’s my fave now
gleaming crane
If you learn how to dodge and act, the other weapons become a lot more viable.
gleaming crane
Take the bow. Lots of people say it's bad, because you can't move while you charge your attack. But it's just another thing to learn. Once you get it, you're actually very mobile with that weapon.
weak stag
shield is preeeetty cheesy
turns out doing your best impression of the most annoying enemy in the game is actually pretty op
oak knot
but that would be you exploding on contact with any enemy
gleaming crane
I always use the weapon that boosts darkness. Makes me use all of them.
dire stratus
me too kinda
gleaming crane
Shield guys are way worse than explosive chariots.
red coral
Spear special is a great counter for shield dudes
dire stratus
one time i went into a room filled w explosive chariots and they took out like half my hp
and more came
like wtf
hexed smelt
i feel like the only player in the fandom who hates the shield
dire stratus
maybe cuz ur too gud for the shield
weak stag
i don't like the shield either, but i don't absolutely hate it
hexed smelt
yeah i’ll just tell myself that :’)
oak knot
i dislike running around trying to jebait chariots into obstacles, shield dudes is tough to deal with too but less annoying
elfin kite
I hate the shield, unless it is fully upgraded
dire stratus
btw whats the boss of elysium called again?
oak knot
Theseus the chad the champion and Asterius the bull
dire stratus
Ah isnt Theseus a cheating b-word tho
oak knot
mentioning Theseus in here is fine i think
gaunt ridge
I wanted House Renovator to let me use my diamond but the one I want is still not coming. -_-
dire stratus
i feel ya too
i farm 3 diamonds
then they change
and im just left there being bruh
gaunt ridge
House Renovator OP
opaque nexus
True final boss
gaunt ridge
stonk endgame content
dire stratus
will the suggestion in #hades-suggestions actually end up in the game
opaque nexus
Took me so long to get the ||thing to pardon Sisyphus||
Speaking of changes that may end up in the game
Give me a good reason why time shouldn’t stop in shops and the main Styx room
gleaming crane
@dire stratus Some of them might. Depends on what the devs think about them.
hexed smelt
maybe! the little shade faces in the patch notes 
indicate changes influenced by community feedback
opaque nexus
Give yourself the hades role
gleaming crane
You can't anymore.
gleaming crane
"We are locking the channel now and will re-open it if we have additional active requests for ideas."
opaque nexus
I think you need roles for feedback that you don’t have as well lul
dire stratus
lul
gleaming crane
Go to #bot-commands and read the pins.
hexed smelt
no, they relevant pins are in #hades-feedback
people should be reading those to find out the rules for feedback anyways
dire stratus
alr read the rules
vernal wagon
hey guys, if I have a Doom on my attack for 73 damage and a Doom on my special for 100, how do they interact?
I get the feeling they don't stack
is it the highest damage one, the first one inflicted or the last one inflicted?
got my answer, highest damage one
static wadi
@brisk trail well
they affect all boons rarity from this god
but they garanty 1st god boon only once
dire stratus
dat answered my question too actually
so after i kill a boss and i equip another god keepsake
will it be gurenteed
static wadi
it should be
but as i know
this doesnt work for Chaos and Hermes
Good evening btw guys
Hope u ok
dire stratus
its nightime for me :/
static wadi
@dire stratus what exactly
dire stratus
wdym
static wadi
what exactly nightmare
static wadi
oh
static wadi
my eyes tricked me)
dire stratus
did u rlly misread that
ur eyes dont trick u, its ur brain
technically, everything u see rn is actually upside down
static wadi
well i have an excuse - english not my language
elfin kite
Ares offers a boon that allow doom to stack up to 5 times
otherwise it does not stack unfortunately
paper ermine
Poseidon aspect is busted.
paper ermine
Woo! I beat Theseus and the Minotaur
With exit wounds, Poseidon aspect and extra ammo.
red coral
Nice!
paper ermine
I also have double damage dash attacks
I got lucky with the god he chose, I got the wine one
I forget his name atm
dire stratus
and he always acts like hes so honourable
paper ermine
All you have to do is focus The Minotaur and it's a dub.
paper ermine
Oh, I had no idea that you lost your god gauge after finishing a passageway in the Temple of Styx, the more you know.
Alright, I used all my death's defiance on previous floors, but I cleared all of the passageways, now it's my first time trying to kill The Big Man.
static wadi
@paper ermine tooth?
paper ermine
What?
static wadi
trinket
paper ermine
I have lambent plume
static wadi
not bad
static wadi
26% my record
paper ermine
The plume started at lvl 1 so
I can prob do much better than what I have now.
Whatever, ima go fight him.
static wadi
dew it
paper ermine
2nd phase 😄
RIP, got hit by his double swing
Well, at least now I know his patterns.
red coral
Gentle reminder to not try avoiding the swear filter by misspelling words y’all~
paper ermine
So I have not used a ton of nectar yet, is it worth trading my 1st ambrosia for a titan's blood?
I can't use ambrosia on anybody yet.
dire stratus
i think u should save ambrosia
paper ermine
What about 2 diamonds for 1 ambrosia.
paper ermine
3
I think I might save, they are used for higher upgrades later in the contractor's line.
dire stratus
what happens if u give nectar to gods
like max it out
do you get anything special or just a thank you message
paper ermine
Ah I can't share pictures, what does the clock inside Lord Hades' 2nd gift heart mean? Do I need to give him another nectar before time runs out?
dire stratus
i also dont know what that it
gleaming crane
It means you have to wait for the devs to add it in an update.
dire stratus
is it worth giving nectar to hades
and regarding my other question, anything special i get from max giving gods nectar
narrow karma
good feelings 👍
stable dagger
right now there is nothing for maxing them out gameplay wise
paper ermine
Do cast damage buffs work with loading your cast into your bow?
stable dagger
but when it gets added you will be much closer to completion of the story of that god
gleaming crane
Yes, they do. That's the main point of the Hera aspect.
paper ermine
Very nice.
Ah, @static wadi now I know what the trinket you were talking about actually does.
It doesn't seem super good imo
If you need it over other trinkets you are kinda trash, no offense. 😉
Blade rift cast + Hera aspect is kinda nice.
Stack 3 blade rifts on someone, or more.
Whoops, made my game crash 😳
vernal prairie
I just started playing with Heat, do I need to go through each heat level one at a time to get the rewards or can go, say, heat level 2 and get the bounties for level 1 & 2?
gleaming crane
One level at a time.
brisk trail
one at a time..
gleaming crane
You'll always get the lowest heat reward you can get though, so if you want to, say, get the Heat gates, you could do 5 runs at 5 Heat to get the 1 Heat, 2 Heat, 3 Heat, 4 Heat and 5 Heat rewards.
vernal prairie
Cool, thanks!
paper ermine
The Daedalus upgrade, for the bow, for shooting fast instead of charging up seems super weak, maybe I'm just using it incorrectly.
narrow karma
it lets you spam attacks without having to time, so that's already a nice big plus
midnight salmon
23 minute clear time with exit wounds poseidon blade, personal best
nutty weapon prob my fav
narrow karma
raises your cast damage bonus...?
spare skiff
Hi there, I've just encountered a bug in a small room with a trial of gods. When I finished the room I recieved "Premium Vintage" from Dionysus. The Nectar popped out of the room, behind a wall. Should I report that here ?
static wadi
f10 ingame
spare skiff
@static wadi thanks !
frigid radish
round gulch
is there an up-to-date roadmap?
flint gust
Honestly, the time between updates feels shorter than before
round gulch
oh yeah lol...thanks