#h1-discussion | Supergiant Games | Page 585

quaint mauve Dec 20, 2018, 1:23 AM

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tyty

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actually wat does cerberus's do?

tawny stone Dec 20, 2018, 1:23 AM

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~~Also give the rest of your flasks to Dusa cause she deserves them for being so sweet~~

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it gives you +25 starting health

untold jolt Dec 20, 2018, 1:23 AM

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25 health

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She's definitely the waifu in the afterlife-u

tawny stone Dec 20, 2018, 1:24 AM

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I- I'm sorry you died again, your highness dusa

quaint mauve Dec 20, 2018, 1:24 AM

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trueee

untold jolt Dec 20, 2018, 1:24 AM

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haha

quaint mauve Dec 20, 2018, 1:24 AM

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welp

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im giving it to the doggo

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i accidentally made dusa go away

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i spooked her

bright cloak Dec 20, 2018, 1:25 AM

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"Dusa stop being so shy and lemme buy you a drink"

tawny stone Dec 20, 2018, 1:25 AM

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You will rack them up in no time. And yeah you need to give first then talk to in lots of cases

quaint mauve Dec 20, 2018, 1:25 AM

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lesson learned..

tawny stone Dec 20, 2018, 1:25 AM

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No worries I did that to a lot of the gods too lol

quaint mauve Dec 20, 2018, 1:25 AM

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or i can restart it

devout plinth Dec 20, 2018, 1:25 AM

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Also benefit of skull earring is u get to know how stylish u are

tawny stone Dec 20, 2018, 1:26 AM

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Nah its fine, you will find plenty of ambrosias out there

fiery pebble Dec 20, 2018, 1:26 AM

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Meg > Dusa

tawny stone Dec 20, 2018, 1:26 AM

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Meg is way too Tsun

untold jolt Dec 20, 2018, 1:26 AM

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She actively dislikes me for so long.

tawny stone Dec 20, 2018, 1:26 AM

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She still doesn't like me FeelsBadMan

quaint mauve Dec 20, 2018, 1:26 AM

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welp ok we got the dusa duster in the end lol

tawny stone Dec 20, 2018, 1:26 AM

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probably cause I keep sending her packing with cheese

untold jolt Dec 20, 2018, 1:27 AM

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Although I really don't like the idea of gating relationship increases with gifts.

tawny stone Dec 20, 2018, 1:27 AM

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lol nice, well in order for it to work, you still can't be taking a ton of damage, need to survive long enough for it to help

untold jolt Dec 20, 2018, 1:27 AM

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It honestly should have more to do with amount of time you spend talking to them.

tawny stone Dec 20, 2018, 1:28 AM

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I think the plan is that you will have more to do, and hopefully more gifts to get too.

fiery pebble Dec 20, 2018, 1:28 AM

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Thats what makes Meg more interesting

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She doesnt feel like a kid with a crush

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Also to be fair, you are making her job hell

tawny stone Dec 20, 2018, 1:29 AM

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To be fair, we are in hell

untold jolt Dec 20, 2018, 1:29 AM

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Yeah.

fiery pebble Dec 20, 2018, 1:29 AM

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Thats the joke

untold jolt Dec 20, 2018, 1:29 AM

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I just feel like we can do mix of talking and gift-giving to increase the love.

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Dusa does just end up drinking with you after a while right, regardless of ambrosia?

tawny stone Dec 20, 2018, 1:31 AM

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Idk, mine must have been perfectly timed since I gave it to her, came back the next run and got the scene

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The original offer happens without the ambrosia though

mighty ginkgo Dec 20, 2018, 1:35 AM

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When does Kratos show up?

tawny stone Dec 20, 2018, 1:35 AM

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At the beginning of the first game

untold jolt Dec 20, 2018, 1:36 AM

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🥁 🥁 tss

mighty ginkgo Dec 20, 2018, 1:36 AM

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Nice, if Kratos somehow becomes a PS4 exclusive boss though

untold jolt Dec 20, 2018, 1:37 AM

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Kratos doesn't ever die or go to the underworld as far as I know

mighty ginkgo Dec 20, 2018, 1:37 AM

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It happened in shovel knight, turrets from portal appeared in Bastion

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Yeah he does, i remember him briefly going there

balmy quest Dec 20, 2018, 1:38 AM

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very beginning of gow2

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it's like the first thing that happens

untold jolt Dec 20, 2018, 1:38 AM

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In God of War, not the mythology. I was refering to the mythos.

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Also Kratos is a champion of Zeus. Would be very out of place for him to be trying to keep him in the underworld.

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Thanatos, as the Nyx-born embodiment of Death however.... Sounds like a fun fight.

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Be like Zag fighting his edgy cousin.

dense geyser Dec 20, 2018, 1:43 AM

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did i get banned from the new feedback channel? o-o

void vigil Dec 20, 2018, 1:44 AM

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@dense geyser it’s opt-in

vital belfry Dec 20, 2018, 1:44 AM

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Read the top info of the Feedback channel

void vigil Dec 20, 2018, 1:44 AM

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^

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It’s pinned !

untold jolt Dec 20, 2018, 1:49 AM

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@dense sail hey hate to cold At you. Are you the speedrunner?

dense sail Dec 20, 2018, 1:49 AM

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yup

prisma wind Dec 20, 2018, 1:50 AM

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I would venture that it's opt-in to ensure people read the rules for the new feedback system before posting 👍

untold jolt Dec 20, 2018, 1:50 AM

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You make every event much brighter. Thanks for being such a positive part of the community.

fair echo Dec 20, 2018, 1:50 AM

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Ohhhh are you the one who always commentates and plays stuff at GDQ?

dense sail Dec 20, 2018, 1:50 AM

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awwww thanks so much!

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haha yeah

fair echo Dec 20, 2018, 1:50 AM

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Ahhh I love your segments there man!

dense sail Dec 20, 2018, 1:50 AM

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I'm hosting andn running at this GDQ as well, so pumped

untold jolt Dec 20, 2018, 1:50 AM

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What are you running?

dense sail Dec 20, 2018, 1:50 AM

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Warcraft 3 Orc Campaign

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will be pretty chill

untold jolt Dec 20, 2018, 1:51 AM

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Dope. Even though RTS aren't my jam I'm sure the commentary will be on point.

half surge Dec 20, 2018, 1:51 AM

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Covert! ablobwave

dense sail Dec 20, 2018, 1:52 AM

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❤ ❤

dense geyser Dec 20, 2018, 1:53 AM

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META: I have a feedback for the feedback channel - the reaction system seems good, but it's very quickly going to blow up and people are not going to be able to scroll up anymore. My suggestions:

Maybe have phases of feedback (suggest, reviewing, remaking the "common feedback doc"). e.g. - 1 week of open feedback, 1 week where the channel is locked but people can still react to old posts, and then the channel unlocks after a new "commonly suggested" list is made
Rate limit by week, and introduce a character limit?

untold jolt Dec 20, 2018, 1:53 AM

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well I'll be rooting for a good time even though I've never played Warcraft! Hope you're enjoying Hades as much as I am. Also. Yeah, run this game once it's done. They allow for rogue-likes at GDQ don't they?

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I guess they do randomizer seeds of LTTP so rogue-likes aren't much different.

olive jungle Dec 20, 2018, 1:55 AM

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hey guys, you're welcome to off-topic convos but please keep it in #off-topic-discussion !

half surge Dec 20, 2018, 1:55 AM

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tghLove

fair echo Dec 20, 2018, 1:55 AM

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Yeah I reckon once hades is done it'd be great for speed-runs

fiery pebble Dec 20, 2018, 1:55 AM

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Eh?

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Its really, really random

half surge Dec 20, 2018, 1:56 AM

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Seeded runs

tawny stone Dec 20, 2018, 1:56 AM

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Will it though? I feel the gameplay is meant to also be grindy

fiery pebble Dec 20, 2018, 1:56 AM

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And I cant imagine that it has a lot of things that make speedruns interesting

half surge Dec 20, 2018, 1:56 AM

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Roguelikes are hell to speedrun consistently but also pretty fun

tawny stone Dec 20, 2018, 1:56 AM

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Lowkey I want to have a Date with Dusa category, just speedrun to the point where you get Dusa on a date.

dense sail Dec 20, 2018, 1:56 AM

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yeah i actually hosted a rouge-like last GDQ, it was Sub Level Zero Redux run by Roncli; I definitely suggest watching the run too, commentary was really solid
http://gdqvods.com/game/sublevel-zero-redux/

GDQ VODs

The site that allows you to search and browse through all the speedruns that have been played at an AGDQ or SGDQ marathon. Games Done Quick VODs are grouped by event, game, runner, platform, genre, and special categories such as races and world record runs.

half surge Dec 20, 2018, 1:56 AM

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Shame the Gungeon run didn't work out, that was still super fun though

untold jolt Dec 20, 2018, 1:57 AM

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Gungeon is tough, especially while talking.

fair echo Dec 20, 2018, 1:57 AM

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Mmm

olive jungle Dec 20, 2018, 1:57 AM

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hey guys

half surge Dec 20, 2018, 1:57 AM

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I know there's people speedrunning hades rn, bur not many

olive jungle Dec 20, 2018, 1:57 AM

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#off-topic-discussion

untold jolt Dec 20, 2018, 1:57 AM

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sorry about that mod.

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Got a little star-struck.

tawny stone Dec 20, 2018, 1:57 AM

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I suppose it is kinda off topic thonkang Sorry about that

olive jungle Dec 20, 2018, 1:57 AM

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it's cool, man 😂

dense sail Dec 20, 2018, 1:58 AM

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yeah I've been doing some runs of hades

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for fun

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12:04 on current patch right now, I lost a sub 11 run though earlier

half surge Dec 20, 2018, 1:58 AM

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I've got to the point where I can pretty consistently win now so I might try some runs when I get back home

untold jolt Dec 20, 2018, 1:58 AM

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Good redirect. and that is nice.

fair echo Dec 20, 2018, 1:58 AM

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Ahh yeah

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Are you doing runs on fresh saves or maxed mirror?

untold jolt Dec 20, 2018, 1:59 AM

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And which do you think would be the default category?

dense sail Dec 20, 2018, 1:59 AM

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it's pretty fun, just if you get a timed survival room or bad daedelus or don't get the 2nd deity boon you need it's a reset often

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too bad you can't 1 cycle bosses anymore

untold jolt Dec 20, 2018, 1:59 AM

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1-cycle?

dense sail Dec 20, 2018, 1:59 AM

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in hydra there are 25% health gates that grant it invul

fiery pebble Dec 20, 2018, 2:00 AM

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Kill them before they enter another phase

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Meg and Hydra now have guaranteed Invulns at certain hp percentages

dense sail Dec 20, 2018, 2:00 AM

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you used to be able to kill hydra before that first invul that happens now

fiery pebble Dec 20, 2018, 2:00 AM

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Yeah, that

dense sail Dec 20, 2018, 2:00 AM

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yeah

fiery pebble Dec 20, 2018, 2:00 AM

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Granted, damage since then has gone down a lot

dense sail Dec 20, 2018, 2:00 AM

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Meg is 50% + 25% I believe

untold jolt Dec 20, 2018, 2:00 AM

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ah, I never got there without the gate

fiery pebble Dec 20, 2018, 2:00 AM

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So 1-phase probably wouldnt be possible anymore anyway

dense sail Dec 20, 2018, 2:00 AM

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hydra is 75%, 50%, 25%

fiery pebble Dec 20, 2018, 2:00 AM

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Since Sweet Surrender is a lot weaker, as is heartbreak strike

dense sail Dec 20, 2018, 2:01 AM

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oh woops this should be in #h1-builds-and-combat

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this is supposed to be a spoiler free discussion channel?

untold jolt Dec 20, 2018, 2:01 AM

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moving over

dense sail Dec 20, 2018, 2:01 AM

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not sure what that means

untold jolt Dec 20, 2018, 2:02 AM

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Hades exists

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Yeah, I forgot that one existed.

willow badger Dec 20, 2018, 2:14 AM

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so i just found a secret room

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and i figured i would pay the HP and try it out

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might get a god rune thing

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i got 1 dark gem

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for 13 hp

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1

vital belfry Dec 20, 2018, 2:15 AM

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Good deal!

dense geyser Dec 20, 2018, 2:23 AM

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yeah chaos gates being reworked is very common feedback @_@

timid parrot Dec 20, 2018, 2:28 AM

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Does anyone know the reason why Superg chose Epic games over Steam?

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Just curious

mighty ginkgo Dec 20, 2018, 2:29 AM

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Better deal, epic may have bought early access

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Epic is now trying to compete with steam, and with something hades. It'll draw people

brisk trail Dec 20, 2018, 2:30 AM

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Yeah who knows, they could have reached out to SGG with a deal

mighty ginkgo Dec 20, 2018, 2:30 AM

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But Hades will still be on Steam though

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Final version

brisk trail Dec 20, 2018, 2:30 AM

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SGG could have opened up the offer to see if anyone would give them a better deal

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And yeah

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Likely on other consoles too

mighty ginkgo Dec 20, 2018, 2:31 AM

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Yeah, switch too?

brisk trail Dec 20, 2018, 2:31 AM

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Not sure they know yet, hopefully though

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Even binding of Isaac is on there so they have a good shot at it haha

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On another note, would love to see a physical compilation of supergiant games one day, like a big all in one pack or “the first 10 years” or something haha

mighty ginkgo Dec 20, 2018, 2:33 AM

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Yeah I expected the first 3 games to be put together

willow badger Dec 20, 2018, 2:35 AM

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anyone know whats up with the sleeping in the bed?

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i did it once and it gave me the

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and then i never used it again

olive jungle Dec 20, 2018, 2:35 AM

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yep

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that's it so far

willow badger Dec 20, 2018, 2:35 AM

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ah

olive jungle Dec 20, 2018, 2:35 AM

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i imagine it'll be used for future cutscenes, maybe

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but obviously the game's only got some of its story rn

willow badger Dec 20, 2018, 2:36 AM

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when it comes to weapons... anyone got a favorite? i make it to the last boss

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and then i get destroyed

alpine stratus Dec 20, 2018, 2:36 AM

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sword 4 life

willow badger Dec 20, 2018, 2:36 AM

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i been spamming sword special build

alpine stratus Dec 20, 2018, 2:36 AM

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love that novas' smash

willow badger Dec 20, 2018, 2:36 AM

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it makes it so brain dead ez

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but getting boring, wondering if anything else op

trail rain Dec 20, 2018, 2:37 AM

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Spear charge + Dash. It's a huge AoE attack that always has quick temper activated. Does pretty crazy damage.

willow badger Dec 20, 2018, 2:37 AM

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wait a minute

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i can charge it

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AND THEN DASH

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AND THEN EXPLODE?

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HOH

bright cloak Dec 20, 2018, 2:37 AM

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my fave was shield + curse damage on special for a bit

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HOO BOY

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well I know what I'm using next run

devout plinth Dec 20, 2018, 2:38 AM

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(careful of spoilery boys here)

willow badger Dec 20, 2018, 2:39 AM

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150 damage swing with no upgrade

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HUh

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ok my b

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i deleted the line

devout plinth Dec 20, 2018, 2:39 AM

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no worries just sayin

willow badger Dec 20, 2018, 2:40 AM

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ye

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i was wondering if it was kinda risque

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but nobody said anything so i was like meh

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@trail rain quick question

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if i take hunters dash

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the one thats like

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after you dash your attack crits for 1 sec

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does it count on the spin?

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cause i guess its techically apart of my attack?

dense sail Dec 20, 2018, 2:42 AM

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yes it confirms the crit onto the spin

willow badger Dec 20, 2018, 2:42 AM

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oh my god

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this gonna get nerfed so fast

prisma wind Dec 20, 2018, 2:43 AM

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It's a very effective method

willow badger Dec 20, 2018, 2:43 AM

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250 damage backstabs

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200 damage reg

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holy

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so all attack buffs work?

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divine strike, your attack is 96% stronger and deflects

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492 damage a swing backstab

prisma wind Dec 20, 2018, 2:52 AM

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The only one that I'm not certain works is the Hammer upgrade that gives your attack more reach, since there's a different one that is just for the spin iirc

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Untouchable Thrust vs Massive Spin

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This should really be in #h1-builds-and-combat though

willow badger Dec 20, 2018, 2:52 AM

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wanna move it there?

prisma wind Dec 20, 2018, 2:53 AM

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By all means, if you have more you want to discuss!

azure edge Dec 20, 2018, 3:06 AM

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Tfw I can never smooch Aphrodite. Feelsbadman.
I should have known better. Greek mythology was made to warn about this.

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I'm kinda sad the Olympians only get 5 hearts, even on release. I'd have loved more interactions with them.

dreamy prairie Dec 20, 2018, 3:13 AM

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hey, so i finally only beat Meg tonight, got a little bit into Asphodel, and now I can't beat Meg again... is everyone else just really better at this or is it really that hard?

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Cause I am suffering

knotty fog Dec 20, 2018, 3:14 AM

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i beat meg once and i havent been able to beat her since

cerulean flare Dec 20, 2018, 3:14 AM

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she's tough, don't worry

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lots of health

knotty fog Dec 20, 2018, 3:14 AM

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i feel like i'd need those specific "rare/epic" boons i got the first time so i guess we're playing with the RNG

cerulean flare Dec 20, 2018, 3:15 AM

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mirror upgrades are very strong still

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you'll also just get better at fighting her of course

dreamy prairie Dec 20, 2018, 3:15 AM

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yaaayyy I'm not alone

knotty fog Dec 20, 2018, 3:16 AM

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im not really complaining. the obvious course of action, at least from my point of view, it to actually start giving gifts to the gods and seeing what keepsakes I get (idk what they give, im not that far ahead in the plan yet)

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also im awful at video games so this is par for the course

dreamy prairie Dec 20, 2018, 3:19 AM

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would it take away from what the game is if there was a tiny checkpoint somewhere?

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i'm going to keep trying, no matter what they do tho lol

knotty fog Dec 20, 2018, 3:21 AM

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right now i dont mind not having a checkpoint bc actually getting to meg takes like maybe ten minutes, but I feel like after getting to the second boss, it would begin to be a slog to have to run through it all again..... plus i like the idea that once you get to a "checkpoint" there could be new side characters and gossip to catch up on. But i'm getting ahead of myself. Ive only gotten out of tartarus once lmao

alpine stratus Dec 20, 2018, 3:22 AM

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oh man i really dislike the idea of the final game REQUIRING you to sit down for an hour+ to beat it

knotty fog Dec 20, 2018, 3:22 AM

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yeah i feel like that would be a very unlikely decision..... at least i hope so

dreamy prairie Dec 20, 2018, 3:22 AM

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oh man didn't even think of that

alpine stratus Dec 20, 2018, 3:22 AM

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esp bc hades is a very like. dizzying game visually

knotty fog Dec 20, 2018, 3:22 AM

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my fingers can only take so much key smashing

foggy lava Dec 20, 2018, 3:23 AM

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Can't you save and quit and come back to it later?

alpine stratus Dec 20, 2018, 3:23 AM

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nope

knotty fog Dec 20, 2018, 3:23 AM

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that puts you back in the house of hades

dreamy prairie Dec 20, 2018, 3:23 AM

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Gotta pay Charon 1000 g to take you up to Asphodel

alpine stratus Dec 20, 2018, 3:24 AM

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if they really want to prevent like, loading up the boss room over and over till you get it, even like a save that can only be used once would work

knotty fog Dec 20, 2018, 3:24 AM

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romance charon, skip the plot

alpine stratus Dec 20, 2018, 3:24 AM

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eyyyyyyy

knotty fog Dec 20, 2018, 3:24 AM

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hey guys this is my skeleton boyfriend

dreamy prairie Dec 20, 2018, 3:24 AM

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he doesn't talk but he's amazing

alpine stratus Dec 20, 2018, 3:24 AM

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when a run takes 5-10 minutes redoing it is fine but when a run will take more than an hour, YIKEES

karmic basalt Dec 20, 2018, 3:24 AM

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there's an autosave so i just wait for that and then quit if i need a break

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or smth

alpine stratus Dec 20, 2018, 3:24 AM

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💀 : shadeembarassed

karmic basalt Dec 20, 2018, 3:25 AM

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but im also guessing by the time there'smore game you'd be v fast at clearing early rooms

alpine stratus Dec 20, 2018, 3:25 AM

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rooms between areas should be savepoints tho honestly

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not rly like. its all luck of boons

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im gonna feedback this tbh

karmic basalt Dec 20, 2018, 3:25 AM

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i imagine permanent upgrades get better down the line 🤔

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i'll wait til there are more zones and then feedback if it feels slow

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hard to tell rn

knotty fog Dec 20, 2018, 3:26 AM

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yeah maybe this is because im not that much of a strategic player, but usually getting big damage bumps from an Ares boon is much more run defining than walking in with new mirror upgrades

alpine stratus Dec 20, 2018, 3:29 AM

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👆

dreamy prairie Dec 20, 2018, 3:31 AM

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the boons are what either make the enemies go down in a timely manner, or they arent as good as i thought and im dodging all over the place trying to wear down the armor

knotty fog Dec 20, 2018, 3:31 AM

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oh god..........................................armor

dreamy prairie Dec 20, 2018, 3:31 AM

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UGH

tepid orchid Dec 20, 2018, 3:31 AM

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you can totally save and quit

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just not while there are monsters in the room

knotty fog Dec 20, 2018, 3:32 AM

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what are those guys called? the fat ones that slap you around? when they have armor its not a good time

karmic basalt Dec 20, 2018, 3:32 AM

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louts

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?

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the ones that charge?

knotty fog Dec 20, 2018, 3:32 AM

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yeah

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i hate them

karmic basalt Dec 20, 2018, 3:32 AM

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louts i think and that's a mood tho i hate the -stones the most probably 😂

dreamy prairie Dec 20, 2018, 3:33 AM

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yea they suck, but im not too good at dodging those numbskulls too

knotty fog Dec 20, 2018, 3:33 AM

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okay wait THE WORST the absolute worst room ive ever been in was when 4 of those numskull generators spawned

karmic basalt Dec 20, 2018, 3:33 AM

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me yelling at my screen, swinging my sword angrily: come back here!!

dreamy prairie Dec 20, 2018, 3:33 AM

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oh no, you poor soul

karmic basalt Dec 20, 2018, 3:33 AM

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omg yes im still so bad at dodging numbskulls 😂

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honestly i loved sword so much bc i could just slap them all w nova jdlfjd

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goodbye numbskulls

knotty fog Dec 20, 2018, 3:34 AM

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the only good numbskull is a dead one

dreamy prairie Dec 20, 2018, 3:34 AM

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BEGONE

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not you ferret the skulls

knotty fog Dec 20, 2018, 3:35 AM

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already at the door, sobbing w-what

dreamy prairie Dec 20, 2018, 3:36 AM

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baby noooo

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oh wait has anyone thrown the sheild with a posidon thing that pushes enemies, but it hits them in the back and it goes toward you?

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too many times

karmic basalt Dec 20, 2018, 3:37 AM

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that

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that happened w me on the spear special

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but also the shield yes

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but it was more terrifying w the spear special 😂

dreamy prairie Dec 20, 2018, 3:37 AM

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OO

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f

karmic basalt Dec 20, 2018, 3:37 AM

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/pulls club guy RiGHT iNTO Me

knotty fog Dec 20, 2018, 3:37 AM

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aaaaa

karmic basalt Dec 20, 2018, 3:38 AM

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me: i made a Grave Error

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knockback on the attack was fun tho
but uh
not putting that on the spear special ever again 😂 unless they changed that but i didn't see anything about it so probably not ahaha

dreamy prairie Dec 20, 2018, 3:40 AM

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my bro keeps laughing at me when i wiff the posideon cast

karmic basalt Dec 20, 2018, 3:40 AM

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omg i miss so badly w casts sometimes, it's the worst in asphodel jfdlfdsj

dreamy prairie Dec 20, 2018, 3:41 AM

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nyooom and splash

karmic basalt Dec 20, 2018, 3:41 AM

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me, crying: noooo come back baby

fair echo Dec 20, 2018, 3:41 AM

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I actually kinda love the Poseidon casts.

karmic basalt Dec 20, 2018, 3:41 AM

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yeah they're fun ahaha

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missing and then not getting the cast back is not as fun 😂

dreamy prairie Dec 20, 2018, 3:41 AM

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oh yea they powerful but sometimes i just cant hit

karmic basalt Dec 20, 2018, 3:41 AM

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i'd pay for a cast-magnet upgrade or smth lol

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pls just.. bring them back so i don't have to yakety sax all over the room

fair echo Dec 20, 2018, 3:42 AM

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Isn't Artemis' ones tracking

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Not the best tracking but yeah.

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I'd like one that draws them too you like sparx does with gems in Spyro xP

dreamy prairie Dec 20, 2018, 3:43 AM

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PLS

karmic basalt Dec 20, 2018, 3:44 AM

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mirror upgrade maybe? ahaha

fair echo Dec 20, 2018, 3:44 AM

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But I don't mind going for the cast arrows myself.

karmic basalt Dec 20, 2018, 3:45 AM

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i don'tm ind w smaller rooms but w large ones and long battles i inevitably run out bc i haveno idea where they went 😂

fair echo Dec 20, 2018, 3:45 AM

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Oof yeah I almost have trouble keeping track of them

karmic basalt Dec 20, 2018, 3:45 AM

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or they're in lava somewhere, asphodel pls ;-;

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somebody already left feedback about casts tho recently ahaha

dreamy prairie Dec 20, 2018, 3:46 AM

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i try to right click in the Megera battle and nothing happens, gotta sonic across the room

fair echo Dec 20, 2018, 3:46 AM

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Yeah

dreamy prairie Dec 20, 2018, 3:46 AM

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'scuse me, brute, kill you in a sec

karmic basalt Dec 20, 2018, 3:47 AM

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😂 lol yeah

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benny hill theme just plays in my head when that happens

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/runs everywhere w a train of brutes chasing me and meg missiles everywhere

fair echo Dec 20, 2018, 3:47 AM

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Ahahah

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Ohhh noooo

karmic basalt Dec 20, 2018, 3:47 AM

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and witch ones 😂

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tbh one of my most fun runs
was when i had the 200% dmg + radius nova upgrade
and athena's special deflect
a massive sword whirl of missile deflection 😂

fair echo Dec 20, 2018, 3:48 AM

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I usually just smash through the crowd of club brutes because I'm annoyed that they're piled up in the middle.

karmic basalt Dec 20, 2018, 3:48 AM

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the deflect duration lasts for p long so it was so funny just

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shooting at least 10 missiles back at ppl fjdlfsdj

dreamy prairie Dec 20, 2018, 3:49 AM

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you gotta multitask so hard in the megera battle so that nothing hits you

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i get annoyed with them too, gets in the way of my shield

karmic basalt Dec 20, 2018, 3:49 AM

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/angles slightly so im between two of meg's attack lines, spins to win wheeeee

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they just all go flying back it's so funny 😂

dreamy prairie Dec 20, 2018, 3:50 AM

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the sword or the spear does that?

karmic basalt Dec 20, 2018, 3:50 AM

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i had athena's special upgrade that makes it deflect
so i was using the sword special

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later i also got her legendary and ares' legendary in the same run so it was just a hilarious vortex of nothing hitting me gjldjdf

dreamy prairie Dec 20, 2018, 3:51 AM

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aw nice

karmic basalt Dec 20, 2018, 3:52 AM

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and blade rifts everywhere 😂

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p sure the blade rifts were also larger

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i didn't win that run but it was v entertainng so i had some sort of personal victory anyways

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so much spinning 😂

dreamy prairie Dec 20, 2018, 3:53 AM

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"Just try and hit me!" dies anyway

karmic basalt Dec 20, 2018, 3:54 AM

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that was the first time i got to the last room so
i was not prepaaared

pale abyss Dec 20, 2018, 3:56 AM

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any plans to add in a playable female character like in transistor?

dreamy prairie Dec 20, 2018, 3:56 AM

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uuuh if the story switches to us playing persephonie? maybe

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that would be pretty neat

azure edge Dec 20, 2018, 3:58 AM

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Wait, I thought Persephone was on the surface already- I doubt she'd be down there.

dreamy prairie Dec 20, 2018, 3:58 AM

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nah like a flashback

azure edge Dec 20, 2018, 3:58 AM

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Oh. Yeah, could happen.

dreamy prairie Dec 20, 2018, 3:59 AM

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oh wow i spelled her name veerry wrong

knotty fog Dec 20, 2018, 3:59 AM

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are we allowed to give plot/story feedback in the feedback channel?

azure edge Dec 20, 2018, 3:59 AM

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Given the no spoilers rule, I imagine no.

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Oh

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Wait, feedback, not here.

prisma wind Dec 20, 2018, 3:59 AM

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Feedback channel can have spoilers

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I don't see why not, ferret

knotty fog Dec 20, 2018, 4:00 AM

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cool sweet

winter cobalt Dec 20, 2018, 4:03 AM

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hhhhh I LOVE DUSA

topaz estuary Dec 20, 2018, 4:04 AM

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Her name means "she who gives" in Ancient Greek

winter cobalt Dec 20, 2018, 4:05 AM

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agfdahgf big heart

knotty fog Dec 20, 2018, 4:06 AM

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it took me forever to realize "maid Dusa" is a pun and i feel so dumb

dreamy prairie Dec 20, 2018, 4:06 AM

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OOOOOOHHHH

winter cobalt Dec 20, 2018, 4:07 AM

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I didnt realize it until someone pointed it out

wise dune Dec 20, 2018, 4:07 AM

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Cerberus are such good boys ;.;

winter cobalt Dec 20, 2018, 4:07 AM

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big true

topaz estuary Dec 20, 2018, 4:07 AM

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("Medusa" means "she who rules" but can also mean "if she didn't give" if you change one of the vowels slightly)

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(And the verb could also be "tie up with ropes" in either case but that's less common)

azure edge Dec 20, 2018, 4:09 AM

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...Oh my god. I didn't see the maid dusa thing myself. I feel dumb.

snow anvil Dec 20, 2018, 4:24 AM

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Bought Hades today and just finished my first session clocking in at around 4 hours... Loved every minute. The gameplay, characters, interactions, story, etc... The only issue I had was the text in the dialogue boxes being way too close together and hard to read at times. With certain words next to each other like "if it" the last and first letters would even be touching.

cedar hollow Dec 20, 2018, 4:26 AM

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hey @snow anvil. You should post that to #hades-feedback .

snow anvil Dec 20, 2018, 4:27 AM

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I'm trying to get the roll rn, just joined

cedar hollow Dec 20, 2018, 4:27 AM

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ah sweet.

prisma wind Dec 20, 2018, 4:28 AM

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Welcome xforts! Glad you're enjoying it as much as the rest of us

azure edge Dec 20, 2018, 4:35 AM

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Wait, xforts, are you the same guy who does those jojos videos? Also, glad to see another one into the game!

willow badger Dec 20, 2018, 4:41 AM

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i feel as though the bow dash shot is really inconsistent

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anyone else feel that?

azure edge Dec 20, 2018, 4:41 AM

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Not at all. I'd say it's the most consistent build in the game.

prisma wind Dec 20, 2018, 4:42 AM

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I've gotten pretty used to it, I think it just takes a bit of practice and muscle memory

azure edge Dec 20, 2018, 4:42 AM

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Especially since you can get early power with the mirror with dash-into-shot, then use artemis trinket to get a certain crit dash.

willow badger Dec 20, 2018, 4:42 AM

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do i mean in terms of getting the power shot

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like

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sometimes i dash and try to shoot

azure edge Dec 20, 2018, 4:42 AM

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Ohh. In terms of the timing?

willow badger Dec 20, 2018, 4:42 AM

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and it does a normal shot

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not power

azure edge Dec 20, 2018, 4:42 AM

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I think it's because the game has a simulated slow motion in certain scenarios.

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Which can throw off charge timings.

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Not sure if it's a framerate drop, or the game literally running more slowly in tense situations, but it is something you need to adjust for.

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Is that what you mean?

willow badger Dec 20, 2018, 4:44 AM

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dont know the cause but yea thats what i mean

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like

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when you kite a chubby red boi

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perfectly

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and take no damage with bow

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it feels so good

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but missing power shots makes me sad

azure edge Dec 20, 2018, 4:47 AM

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Bow is easily my favorite weapon, and it makes me sad to see that split between players who enjoy it and those who want it nerfed into irrelevance.

willow badger Dec 20, 2018, 4:48 AM

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i dont want it nerfed

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i want a quality of like change to make it easier to hit powershots

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or whatever wierd thing

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is making it miss the timing window

balmy quest Dec 20, 2018, 4:49 AM

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yea in my head i was thinking i'd like a more clear visual indication

willow badger Dec 20, 2018, 4:49 AM

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dont need visual

balmy quest Dec 20, 2018, 4:49 AM

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like a spark on your arrow that changes from yellow to red or something

willow badger Dec 20, 2018, 4:49 AM

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i just want it to feel consistent

tepid orchid Dec 20, 2018, 4:49 AM

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I'm not sure I want it nerfed, but I think it's clearly the strongest weapon right now, and the game as a whole isn't super hard right now

azure edge Dec 20, 2018, 4:50 AM

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Same here, pretty much. But that's probably something that could be easily solved through enemy design rather than weapon balance.

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Like more aggressive enemies, which make strafing harder.

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Mind you, it would be more work, and that is one example among n million.

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But admittedly speaking as someone with no game design experience, I find that enemies don't really pressure you in this game that much, you never feel really harried by the enemy.

tepid orchid Dec 20, 2018, 4:53 AM

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I'm not sure that's true, necessarily - sure, you can make enemies that are equally difficult at close range and long range, but the bow isn't really more committal than any other type of attack

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Eh, I think the inferno bombers in later Asphodel levels pressure you a little? But you're right in that there's a pretty long delay

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You can dodge 95% of things by just dashing away on cooldown

azure edge Dec 20, 2018, 4:54 AM

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^This, exactly. You never really feel like you're in a situation where you're really threatened or have to really consider your options, since enemies are so unaggressive.

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Which makes for a more methodical playstyle in Hades that I adore, but which also heavily favours the bow's kiting ability.

topaz estuary Dec 20, 2018, 4:55 AM

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Might be a personal thing, I feel very very harried XD

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Especially with the Bloodless

azure edge Dec 20, 2018, 4:56 AM

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The bloodless is actually my favorite enemy for that very reason.

topaz estuary Dec 20, 2018, 4:56 AM

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I've never come across inferno bombers and felt like I had time to sit back and think

tepid orchid Dec 20, 2018, 4:56 AM

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It's not that you're not harried, so much, as it is that you can just dash away from everything and you'll be fine (and yes, the bloodless are the exception there)

azure edge Dec 20, 2018, 4:56 AM

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Get too close, and you get punished for it. No other enemy in the game makes it so that you can put yourself in a situation that screws you.

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The fact that Bloodless punish you for going too hard or spacing improperly is awesome to me.

topaz estuary Dec 20, 2018, 4:57 AM

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Oh yeah I love the Bloodless

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My problem with Asphodel is it feels like it turns into bullet hell

azure edge Dec 20, 2018, 4:58 AM

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Yeah, a good part of Asphodel is baiting your enemies into a position where you can hit several of them simultaneously.

willow badger Dec 20, 2018, 5:03 AM

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i dont feel like bow is that great tbh

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prob just need to see someone who knows what they are doing in action XD

azure edge Dec 20, 2018, 5:04 AM

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Critdash+Critbuff+Powershot Hammer+Aphro/Poseidon shot usually gets you 650 damage per shot. It's silly.

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Considering that the most important components of those are Artemis buffs, it's easy to build consistently.

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With the trinket.

willow badger Dec 20, 2018, 5:04 AM

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my last run i got all dookie buffs and i was doing like 75 damage a shot

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crit shot*

prisma wind Dec 20, 2018, 5:04 AM

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You should check out Dino's speed runs with the bow if you want to see it in action, though there's probably other streamers with good examples too. That's the one I know of (Dino is often in the Discord here)

willow badger Dec 20, 2018, 5:05 AM

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link pls?

balmy quest Dec 20, 2018, 5:05 AM

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i did something similar for my first hydra kill

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didn't get all those buffs, but a few of them

lime turret Dec 20, 2018, 5:06 AM

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So I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask this, I'm looking for some clarification on the FAQ...

prisma wind Dec 20, 2018, 5:09 AM

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I posted a link in #h1-story-discussion of one of his bow runs

willow badger Dec 20, 2018, 5:10 AM

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i got it

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watching it

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this man is legit

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shotgun bow style

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dash into them and 1 shot with 3 arrows

prisma wind Dec 20, 2018, 5:12 AM

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Triple Shot is great on the bow

willow badger Dec 20, 2018, 5:17 AM

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that run

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was wild

prisma wind Dec 20, 2018, 5:18 AM

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So yeah, that's one way to use bow effectively

willow badger Dec 20, 2018, 5:26 AM

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what does avenging gain do?

topaz estuary Dec 20, 2018, 5:26 AM

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Hit someone right after they hit you to get a bit of health back

brisk trail Dec 20, 2018, 5:31 AM

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game is amazing, dash is too clunky

short cobalt Dec 20, 2018, 5:31 AM

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it's by design you get to upgrade it later

willow badger Dec 20, 2018, 5:31 AM

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i also heard that keyboard is a lot harder then controller

prisma wind Dec 20, 2018, 5:32 AM

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I think it is a lot of preference. I find controller easier, but there are many who prefer mouse and kb

short cobalt Dec 20, 2018, 5:32 AM

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tru...dash would be better if I could dash in more than 8 directions on keyboard

prisma wind Dec 20, 2018, 5:32 AM

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You can dash towards cursor

brisk trail Dec 20, 2018, 5:32 AM

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no oyu cant

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you dash to the direction your facing, its based off of WASD

thorn sand Dec 20, 2018, 5:33 AM

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Its literally an option lol, you can

short cobalt Dec 20, 2018, 5:33 AM

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options bruh

prisma wind Dec 20, 2018, 5:33 AM

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In the Controls menu, though, not settings

azure edge Dec 20, 2018, 5:38 AM

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Keep in mind too that this game is very much meant for controller.

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It feels far more fluid on it, imho.

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In terms of movement.

short cobalt Dec 20, 2018, 5:39 AM

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meanwhile in the noclip documentary: "I played this on pc, since our main market is gonna be pc"

prisma wind Dec 20, 2018, 5:39 AM

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Playing on PC != keyboard and mouse necessarily

azure edge Dec 20, 2018, 5:39 AM

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Hey, the main menu even states that it recommends controller.

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And yeah, PC controllers are becoming rather common nowadays.

winter cobalt Dec 20, 2018, 5:42 AM

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at the moment I play with kbm and I like it but I am used to a controller since i'm more of a console player

short cobalt Dec 20, 2018, 5:42 AM

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I personally never hooked up a controller to my pc and at this point I'm too afraid

azure edge Dec 20, 2018, 5:42 AM

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I also speak with a heavy bias with a fighting games background, where it's universal.

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Fighting games with keyboards. Oh lordie.

winter cobalt Dec 20, 2018, 5:43 AM

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oof I imagine

willow badger Dec 20, 2018, 5:43 AM

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ez win amarite?

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Kappa

winter cobalt Dec 20, 2018, 5:44 AM

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I have a steam controller but I heard those are a lil iffy with hades. I could prolly use my ps4 controller tho

azure edge Dec 20, 2018, 5:44 AM

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I tried it once with DBFZ on a dare, it was the worst feeling ever.

winter cobalt Dec 20, 2018, 5:46 AM

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so far the only fighting game I'm good at is smash

willow badger Dec 20, 2018, 5:46 AM

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how am i supposed to report a bug?

winter cobalt Dec 20, 2018, 5:46 AM

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agsadjsk I suppose we are gettin a bit off topic

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press f10 in the game and you can report it there

azure edge Dec 20, 2018, 5:47 AM

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But yeah, TLDR, Hades feels way better on controller than WASD

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10/10 would recommend.

prisma wind Dec 20, 2018, 5:49 AM

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As said above, f10 will give you the bug report window, and it also takes a screenshot so ideally you report the bug when you see it, but you can still report otherwise

willow badger Dec 20, 2018, 5:49 AM

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yea i got this wierd bug where

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randomly it seems my fps is getting capped at 30-32 fps

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but when i alt tab out and back in

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like 2 times

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it gets fixes and goes to 60 again

topaz estuary Dec 20, 2018, 6:39 AM

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@elder forge Re using keys to make more rooms in a level: doesn't that mean that a room with a key in it is just a dead room? You gain nothing except another room after it.

wise dune Dec 20, 2018, 6:39 AM

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it's ok to stream hades right?

elder forge Dec 20, 2018, 6:41 AM

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na, what i mean by that is, all the key you have left, you could dump them in an upgrade in the mirror, so when you enter a new run there is more room to clear before reaching meg (for exemple)

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but adding more room would also add more difficulty

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since you would get more reward with more room

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(let's just say it's quite late, and my brain-translation is like, derping a lot)

topaz estuary Dec 20, 2018, 6:42 AM

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Ahhh

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That makes sense

elder forge Dec 20, 2018, 6:43 AM

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yeah x)

prisma wind Dec 20, 2018, 6:47 AM

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@wise dune Yup, streaming is fine!

elder forge Dec 20, 2018, 6:59 AM

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guess i'm done with the feedback for tonight, (and for those who marked it as irrelevant or not comply to rule, i do comply to rule, i don't think i did any feedback repost, and it's quite relevant)

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have a good night and thx for reading my crazy idea o/

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(and don't hesitate to ping me if you have anything to discuss about those idea, clarification, modification, the debate is always open !)

cerulean flare Dec 20, 2018, 7:12 AM

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making keys have effects on the current run seems like it would encourage kind of a grindy play pattern

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i think they're intentionally not making permanent items have temporary effects

restive yoke Dec 20, 2018, 7:23 AM

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yo

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oh damn

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bot made me lose my message cuz I said sh*t - anyway, the purpose of keys is to unlock stuff, right? so what if after you're done collecting them for upgrade unlocks, you could use them to unlock secret doors / chests you'd find randomly through your run?

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and they'd randomly give small gold, darkness, or health bonuses

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or something else worthwhile to make them have a collection purpose

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or perhaps they should let you open blood gates for free? idk

zinc snow Dec 20, 2018, 7:47 AM

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It might not be the right place to ask and look like a weird question from someone who knows really little about coding, but...
In what language is Hades coded, is it the same as the previous games (probably but, hey), and is there any reason for that (it could be that it's merely the standard)?

olive jungle Dec 20, 2018, 7:59 AM

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It's coded in a mix of things, Lua and XML being the ones I can think of off the top of my head.

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And yes, it's the same engine and framework that SGG has used for a while, although I think the switch to Lua happened in Pyre...I'm not too sure what the deal is with Transistor and Bastion.

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The reason, I imagine, is because it's easier to start from something than from nothing; no point in reinventing the wheel every time you make a new game, and as long as your engine serves you fine for what you need, that's less time you have to waste building or learning a new system

topaz pollen Dec 20, 2018, 8:14 AM

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Thanks for this information 😃

zinc snow Dec 20, 2018, 8:21 AM

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Thanks a lot !

visual carbon Dec 20, 2018, 8:57 AM

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Does anyone else have a problem with Bloodless attack telegraphs?

lean hedge Dec 20, 2018, 9:13 AM

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what telegraph lol

brittle zealot Dec 20, 2018, 9:18 AM

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Just had a drink with Dusa

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Meg was there.

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It was weird.

brisk trail Dec 20, 2018, 9:46 AM

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@visual carbon Sort of, I think they do make a sort of clawing motion with their arms, but I can't really say for sure if that's supposed to be a telegraph or just part of the movement animation. It might just be me not reading things correctly (probably), but I often feel like Bloodless attacks and animations aren't synced, so I usually just try to stay out of range if possible.

frigid pine Dec 20, 2018, 10:23 AM

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I can not write in feedback channel 😦

olive jungle Dec 20, 2018, 10:25 AM

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you need to join the Early Access rank first

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go to #bot-commands and type ?rank Early Access

frigid pine Dec 20, 2018, 10:25 AM

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thank you 😃

real narwhal Dec 20, 2018, 10:26 AM

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Totally offpoint here, i just watched the noclip for Hades, i just kinda felt obligated to say thanks, ive been making games on my own since i was 16? for like 3 years now. Bastion was one of the games that really got me into the world of indie games, and seeing the documentary its just super inspiring continuing on to creating games, just thanks is all. you guys are cool beans

spring cipher Dec 20, 2018, 10:31 AM

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dusa

hallow lark Dec 20, 2018, 10:32 AM

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Morning all! liuO

real narwhal Dec 20, 2018, 10:33 AM

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Mornin

brisk trail Dec 20, 2018, 11:06 AM

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rooback

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I haz returned.

brisk mauve Dec 20, 2018, 11:06 AM

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how was your wanton rampaging trough my realm?

snow mortar Dec 20, 2018, 11:23 AM

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rooHappy

empty copper Dec 20, 2018, 2:08 PM

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so i had a interesting run, well i say interesting, was using the spear and first item was a hammer that made my special always crit, then got an airtimas Boon that gave my special a 76% chance to crit rooDerp

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im assuming this is a bug?

void vigil Dec 20, 2018, 2:12 PM

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sounds less like a bug and more like an... oversight? is that the word?

empty copper Dec 20, 2018, 2:13 PM

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i guess, though i took it to see if double crits were a thing, its not but it would be a interesting mechanic

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should i ping someone about it or?

void vigil Dec 20, 2018, 2:14 PM

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im gonna try and phrase a feedback about it

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it might take a bit bc i gotta go eat, so you can go ahead and do that if you want instead !

empty copper Dec 20, 2018, 2:15 PM

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i didnt know how to phrase it hence why i brought it here haha, but do pass on the double crits idea if you'd be so kind, be fun for crit rooHappy

void vigil Dec 20, 2018, 2:18 PM

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what do you mean by double crit?

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im sorry, im just not a native english speaker

empty copper Dec 20, 2018, 2:22 PM

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oh, so when you crit typically its a percentage like 50% to deal double damage right? Well double crit comes in once you've passed the 100% mark, lets say you have 176% crit like i did there, id have my 100% crit as expected but id have a 76% chance to crit again, dealing double damage on my double damage, basically critting on my crit

devout plinth Dec 20, 2018, 2:23 PM

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Oh that’s a cool mechanic

empty copper Dec 20, 2018, 2:23 PM

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Games such as warframe and Diablo employ this idea

void vigil Dec 20, 2018, 2:24 PM

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ohh i see. a bit hard for me to grasp still but i think i get the gist of it?

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thank you for explaining!

empty copper Dec 20, 2018, 2:24 PM

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no worries rooHappy basically each 100% crit is its own threshold allowing you to have dedicated crit builds

void vigil Dec 20, 2018, 2:30 PM

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i put it in #hades-feedback! i hope i phrased it okay

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i didnt include double crit because i feel like it could possibly be a separate thing, but you can always suggest it yourself?

empty copper Dec 20, 2018, 2:31 PM

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Diamond Thanks

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urrrm sure ill give it a whirl

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Hoping that explains it thoroughly enough

red glade Dec 20, 2018, 2:45 PM

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Finally beat the hydra since they changed his fight and nerfed aphrodite with the help of lvl 5 ares curse of agony on the bow and triple shot

empty copper Dec 20, 2018, 2:47 PM

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RIP Aphrodite am

snow anvil Dec 20, 2018, 3:08 PM

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what base weapon do you guys think is best? From the few hours i've played I wanna say the shield and bow are best

empty copper Dec 20, 2018, 3:09 PM

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for me its the spear, but its more then likely down to preference

storm rune Dec 20, 2018, 3:14 PM

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I do think the spear is best just because of the sheer amount of damage it can deal WITHOUT any kind of blessing AND that its a super big AOE

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just charge then charge to release

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you can kill the last boss that way without much issues

weary anchor Dec 20, 2018, 3:15 PM

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Hello guys
I'm new to the game and this discord so sorry if it was asked already
how exactly blood gates work? so i have to pay some hp to enter and get darkness or gold but what does it do exactly? i mean does it skip next room and it's reward? or next room is just randomized?

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yeah i noticed it too
are there any situations when entering blood gate is better reward wise instead of entering next room?

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because cauldron sells guaranteed blood gate entrance too

void vigil Dec 20, 2018, 3:19 PM

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if you dont want the next room's rewards

dense geyser Dec 20, 2018, 3:19 PM

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Can I do a survey? I would like to see where people rank the weapons in terms of power level. React 1⃣ for the best, 4⃣ the worst, and put an 🤷 if you aren't sure or don't have any opinions?

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Sword

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Spear

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Bow

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Shield

void vigil Dec 20, 2018, 3:19 PM

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like if theyre both boons from gods that you dont want, you can go in a blood gate to get money instead

weary anchor Dec 20, 2018, 3:20 PM

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ah i see

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blood gate rewards are darkness or coins only?

void vigil Dec 20, 2018, 3:20 PM

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ive seen a centaur heart once iirc

little fable Dec 20, 2018, 3:20 PM

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yes

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oh that's interesting

weary anchor Dec 20, 2018, 3:21 PM

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thank you for replies
wonder what are the chances for centaur heart if you can get it there

prime shore Dec 20, 2018, 3:41 PM

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do yall ever think there will be costumes?

modest compass Dec 20, 2018, 3:43 PM

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Ahhhhhh I just saw this, I will install now :D

meager onyx Dec 20, 2018, 3:53 PM

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kind of want to play hades but also kind of broke

balmy quest Dec 20, 2018, 4:18 PM

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That's a PepeHands dude

frosty briar Dec 20, 2018, 4:50 PM

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Ares and Aphrodites boons do really well together and mythologically speaking this makes me very happy

empty copper Dec 20, 2018, 5:03 PM

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All is fair in Love an War

frosty briar Dec 20, 2018, 5:04 PM

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Except if you get them both in a god trial

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I noped out of that one

empty copper Dec 20, 2018, 5:05 PM

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when the god grows displeased is that permanent or?

topaz estuary Dec 20, 2018, 5:08 PM

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Nope, only for that one room

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They forgive you if you survive

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I don't actually know what happens if you die there and then get their boon at the start of the next run

storm rune Dec 20, 2018, 5:16 PM

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the last piece of dialog at the end tells you they consider the score "settled" once you beat all of their troops sent to kill you....

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which is a bit disturbing to being with 😄

topaz estuary Dec 20, 2018, 5:21 PM

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Aphrodite says she can't stay angry at anyone for long, Athena apologizes and says exacting disproportionate vengeance is just a thing all gods do from time to time, Artemis and Ares are impressed by your killing

vestal lodge Dec 20, 2018, 5:32 PM

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@cobalt token your death defies are in the left side of the screen. Maybe we could do a better job of showing how many are left at a glance though...

cobalt token Dec 20, 2018, 5:33 PM

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It's ok ^^; maybe I'm too dumb to not have noticed

prime harness Dec 20, 2018, 5:41 PM

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maybe make the death defiance bigger than the others? with maybe just the name in it so ppl can see it without tabbing or what the button is 😃

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or a number in the heart icon on the hp bar could also work

cobalt token Dec 20, 2018, 5:45 PM

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I think the near health option is a good idea, since, as someone commented, I see it more as an extra life and not a boon, especially since you can get it from the mirror as well.

alpine stratus Dec 20, 2018, 5:46 PM

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oooh a number in the heart yes!

prime harness Dec 20, 2018, 5:46 PM

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would aslo be cool if u got a voice line when u trigger one:p

alpine stratus Dec 20, 2018, 5:46 PM

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you do, tho, right?

prime harness Dec 20, 2018, 5:46 PM

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would love to hear logan say it each time:)

alpine stratus Dec 20, 2018, 5:46 PM

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OH from logan

cobalt token Dec 20, 2018, 5:47 PM

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I don't remember, but Zag does say something

hexed smelt Dec 20, 2018, 5:47 PM

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zag says stuff, yeah

prime harness Dec 20, 2018, 5:47 PM

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yeah but i meant an announcement

cobalt token Dec 20, 2018, 5:47 PM

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Hades laughing at you every time you use one? 😂

prime harness Dec 20, 2018, 5:47 PM

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yeah something like that

hexed smelt Dec 20, 2018, 5:47 PM

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idk i e never had a problem knowing when i’ve set a defy off but it’d be nice to have a shorthand way to see how many are left

prime harness Dec 20, 2018, 5:48 PM

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well u can pretty easily see it tbh but it would just be extra cool to have some cool voice line for it:)

cobalt token Dec 20, 2018, 5:50 PM

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Yeah, I think it would add more flavor rather than something useful, especially if it's Hades voice because it stands out, either laughing or commenting something about you trying to cheat death.

prime harness Dec 20, 2018, 5:51 PM

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hahaha foolish boy

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or somethign along those lines:p

cobalt token Dec 20, 2018, 5:53 PM

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I can totally see that 😂

prime harness Dec 20, 2018, 5:53 PM

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😃

empty copper Dec 20, 2018, 5:57 PM

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@vestal lodge sorry for the ping, but in reference to the death defies topic from earlier, maybe a small Skull icon and numbers akin to the Cast's UI by the health bar would be fitting?

chrome jungle Dec 20, 2018, 5:57 PM

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Hey all, I'm sure this has been asked before, but Discord has terrible search functionality. I watched the NoClip vid, and I was interested to know if Supergiant was still developing on their fork of MonoGame?

vestal lodge Dec 20, 2018, 6:02 PM

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@chrome jungle Yes we are!

chrome jungle Dec 20, 2018, 6:03 PM

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Man, that is super interesting. I work in game dev as well. At this point I think the tools must be very mature, so productivity is super high in the engine?

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Also, I cant' tell, is Hades true 3D or just well done isometric 2d?

vestal lodge Dec 20, 2018, 6:04 PM

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It's iso with true 3D assets. It's definitely very productive, and we improve our tools and engine with each game!

chrome jungle Dec 20, 2018, 6:04 PM

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Very cool! Thanks for the answer

winter echo Dec 20, 2018, 6:05 PM

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I thought they already did a good job with Death Defy. It's always the bottom buff on the left bar, the rank denotes ow many charges you have, and when you run out "Last Chance" appears over Zag. Having a skull counter above the healthbar seems like a cool idea for it.

prime harness Dec 20, 2018, 6:06 PM

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maybe because it shows as lvl 1-3 it throws ppl off thinking its a boon

winter echo Dec 20, 2018, 6:06 PM

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yeah I can see that

prime harness Dec 20, 2018, 6:07 PM

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tho once u get used to the icon its pretty clear at least imo

winter echo Dec 20, 2018, 6:07 PM

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SGG are always great with UI so I am sure they will find a way to make it clearer without cluttering the screen.

prime harness Dec 20, 2018, 6:08 PM

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ofc, for me its allready good enough, but yeah if it can be even better for others i am ok with that ofc:)

winter echo Dec 20, 2018, 6:11 PM

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As a game designer, I often take for granted what things I pick up quickly/assume based on previous knowledge or experience of playing games all my life that aren't as natural or obvious to other players. New player experiences are always fascinating to me what is and isn't intuitive.

cobalt token Dec 20, 2018, 6:14 PM

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I've been playing games all my life and I couldn't find it, didn't even think it would be among the boons 😅

dense geyser Dec 20, 2018, 6:14 PM

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I really hope they add a big hammer-style weapon, with slow deliberate attacks

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like monster hunter's hammer or smth

prime harness Dec 20, 2018, 6:16 PM

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idk this game seems too fast paced to go rly slow weapons, allready find myself avoiding anything that has a big recovery time like bow special or sword special

wild sundial Dec 20, 2018, 6:16 PM

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i know one of my friends is hoping for claws

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but he hopes for that in every game

dense geyser Dec 20, 2018, 6:16 PM

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@prime harness well to be fair, that's also because the reward for these big recovery time attacks isn't there

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they don't do nearly enough damage to warrant the risk

prime harness Dec 20, 2018, 6:16 PM

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although i like the hammer idea i dont think it would be fun to play if u end up getting hit every time:p

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true

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but thats also one of my biggest issues with the game so far

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specials need to be alot more effective , maybe cooldown based with much more power /reward for using

dense geyser Dec 20, 2018, 6:18 PM

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haha yeah i wouldn't mind a claw-style weapon, but the game already feels like it's balanced around "quick rogue-style" gameplay

prime harness Dec 20, 2018, 6:18 PM

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if the sword special for instance was alot stronger i would maybe use it more and want to take a risk being open for a sec or 2

dense geyser Dec 20, 2018, 6:18 PM

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i think the spear-special feels great, though

prime harness Dec 20, 2018, 6:19 PM

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yeah but the dmg is nothing compared to charge spin dash

cerulean vigil Dec 20, 2018, 6:19 PM

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spear special with the armor breaker is great

prime harness Dec 20, 2018, 6:19 PM

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and leaves u with nothing in your hands:p

cerulean vigil Dec 20, 2018, 6:19 PM

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the slash dash will always be superior

dense geyser Dec 20, 2018, 6:19 PM

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oh oops - i meant the sword special @_@. the spear special is a weird javelin throw

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LOL

prime harness Dec 20, 2018, 6:19 PM

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ah i think sword special is nearly unusable

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in tartarus on like numbskulls is the only time i would maybe ever think about it

cerulean vigil Dec 20, 2018, 6:20 PM

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the knockback is good

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but beyond that you may as well just slash

prime harness Dec 20, 2018, 6:20 PM

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they recover so fast from knockback i often get hit afterwords

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and i want to take 0 dmg if possible

winter echo Dec 20, 2018, 6:20 PM

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its really solid if you get Athena's deflect on it

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when witches bullet hell you just crush them

dense geyser Dec 20, 2018, 6:21 PM

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yeah i think that comes down to balance in terms of damage etc.

prime harness Dec 20, 2018, 6:21 PM

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yeah but if u get a bloodless he just charges u:p

dense geyser Dec 20, 2018, 6:21 PM

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but it feels good

cerulean vigil Dec 20, 2018, 6:21 PM

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Athena is my least favorite god tbh

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as far as boons go

dense geyser Dec 20, 2018, 6:21 PM

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ditto @cerulean vigil . she's great for damage

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but her deflect just feels weird

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it's like maybe i get more iframes?

prime harness Dec 20, 2018, 6:22 PM

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i think aphro is just better

cunning sail Dec 20, 2018, 6:22 PM

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Sword special works really well with Poseidon's Tempest Flourish. Even with armor, there's the huge knockback and slam damage. However you still die to bosses

winter echo Dec 20, 2018, 6:22 PM

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her value increases if stronger ranged enemies become a thing

cerulean vigil Dec 20, 2018, 6:22 PM

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the damage is chill but Im used to dashing away from attacks rather than deflecting

winter echo Dec 20, 2018, 6:22 PM

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right now theres very little to deflect

prime harness Dec 20, 2018, 6:22 PM

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the debuff is just too good with the current enemies

cerulean vigil Dec 20, 2018, 6:22 PM

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she is great against elite witches in Asphodel tho

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yeah Weak is a crazy good effect

winter echo Dec 20, 2018, 6:22 PM

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and witches arent really hard to deal with

prime harness Dec 20, 2018, 6:22 PM

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yeah but witches are least of my problems tbh

cerulean vigil Dec 20, 2018, 6:22 PM

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especially once you get the boon that makes Weak enemies take increased damage

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yeah its the Bloodless and Blustones lol

prime harness Dec 20, 2018, 6:22 PM

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brimstones and bloodless are the dangerous ones in asphodel

slate berry Dec 20, 2018, 6:24 PM

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I dunno, I like deflect but I may be in the minority

vestal lodge Dec 20, 2018, 6:49 PM

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I love deflect

void vigil Dec 20, 2018, 6:50 PM

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deflect is good

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nothing like the satisfying "oh no you dont" feeling when you deflect witches

calm delta Dec 20, 2018, 6:53 PM

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I'm crying I took Aphrodite's boon and Zagreus said "I feel fabulous"

tepid yacht Dec 20, 2018, 6:53 PM

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good

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because he is

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✨

tawny stone Dec 20, 2018, 6:55 PM

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Deflect on attack sometimes doesn't feel so good, like it seems to let damage through a lot on certain weapons.

cerulean vigil Dec 20, 2018, 6:55 PM

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Zag is the best

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fiery pebble Dec 20, 2018, 7:07 PM

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Deflect is an odd case

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Its really good vs ranged foes and feels great to use against them

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But its a bit wonky against melee foes

wild sundial Dec 20, 2018, 7:09 PM

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which is awkward becasue there aren't that many ranged enemies

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you've got witches and the bomb throwers

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afaik it doesn't work on brimstones

fiery pebble Dec 20, 2018, 7:10 PM

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It doesnt

wild sundial Dec 20, 2018, 7:10 PM

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so yeah, you've got a god who is basically dedicated to countering 2 enemy types, neither of which is really the biggest problem

fiery pebble Dec 20, 2018, 7:10 PM

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Theyre the only enemies you cant deflect at all afaik

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Does work on Meg though

wild sundial Dec 20, 2018, 7:11 PM

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but not on the hydra, iirc

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(I only had deflect on the sword special when i fought hydra with it)

fiery pebble Dec 20, 2018, 7:17 PM

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No, and I do think thats dumb

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It just destroys the projectiles

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Works on those fireballs and small bombs that the hydra heads spit out though

gaunt crown Dec 20, 2018, 7:22 PM

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wait, deflect can destroy the hydra's shots?

rotund shard Dec 20, 2018, 7:23 PM

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Not the main head missiles, only the small heads projectiles.

gaunt crown Dec 20, 2018, 7:23 PM

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ah ok

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harsh but fair, hydra would be free as frig if you could block or reflect his shots I think

rotund shard Dec 20, 2018, 7:24 PM

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the shield can block them

fiery pebble Dec 20, 2018, 7:24 PM

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It cant deflect them, but Im pretty sure it destroys them?

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At least, I vaguely remember doing so with Bows special when I had that upgrade

rotund shard Dec 20, 2018, 7:25 PM

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don't think so. I tried it and just got staggered for 40 damage (::

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by the way, how can one get a legendary effect?

gaunt crown Dec 20, 2018, 7:27 PM

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I didn't know that was a thing that existed

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dusa

rotund shard Dec 20, 2018, 7:27 PM

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is it like a 0.1% chance or do u need a certain number of that god effects for it to even possibly appear

fiery pebble Dec 20, 2018, 7:27 PM

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Legendary Boons you mean?

rotund shard Dec 20, 2018, 7:27 PM

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I've only gotten the artemis one. it's Ridiculously strong

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well, ye

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it's a legendary effect among the 3 of the boon

fiery pebble Dec 20, 2018, 7:28 PM

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Well, some have pre-requisites

rotund shard Dec 20, 2018, 7:28 PM

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or is it just called boon? whatever

fiery pebble Dec 20, 2018, 7:28 PM

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You cant get Ares' or Aphros' without having something creates rifts or applies weak

nimble harness Dec 20, 2018, 7:28 PM

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Check the wiki, it tells you what the boon tiers are and what you need to get in order to unlock them

fiery pebble Dec 20, 2018, 7:28 PM

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Outside of that, just low chance I think?

rotund shard Dec 20, 2018, 7:28 PM

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oh

sterile peak Dec 20, 2018, 7:29 PM

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can we take a moment to appreciate how hades modelled every symbol in the underworld after his megabeard

gaunt crown Dec 20, 2018, 7:30 PM

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I would too if I had a beard as magnificent

fiery pebble Dec 20, 2018, 7:31 PM

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Same

burnt pond Dec 20, 2018, 7:34 PM

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It's like wearing shirts that are slightly too tight when you are swole AF, so it looks like you are always flexing 💪 dusa

dreamy prairie Dec 20, 2018, 8:24 PM

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You finally meet up with your mom and she’s like, oh thank goodness you shave

manic ether Dec 20, 2018, 8:25 PM

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Hello ! Is the early access available on Mac OS X ? Or is it reserved to PC ?

signal spoke Dec 20, 2018, 8:30 PM

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It is only on PC at the moment

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you can find more info about platforms in #hades-faq

manic ether Dec 20, 2018, 8:36 PM

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Thx

signal spoke Dec 20, 2018, 8:39 PM

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no problem

tawny stone Dec 20, 2018, 8:40 PM

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It has full controller support as far as I know. Unsure about DS4 because windows sometimes doesn't like it.

prime harness Dec 20, 2018, 8:41 PM

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works fine here , have been playing with ds4 since launch

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but tech fixes does say something about disabeling steam controller support if your having problems so that might help

signal spoke Dec 20, 2018, 8:44 PM

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I haven't used a DS4 with it but Morgan had said yesterday that they should work with it just fine

brisk trail Dec 20, 2018, 9:18 PM

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The dashes in hades look so clunky, are they tho ?

void vigil Dec 20, 2018, 9:19 PM

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not in my experience, no

knotty fog Dec 20, 2018, 9:24 PM

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they look clunky if you dont upgrade them

glad dagger Dec 20, 2018, 9:25 PM

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Yeah early on they're clunky by design to push you towards buying the upgrades for them

wise meteor Dec 20, 2018, 9:25 PM

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Getting a second dash is priority #1

knotty fog Dec 20, 2018, 9:25 PM

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tbh dash without the first upgrade is almost useless except to like occassionally go thru walls in a pinch

glad dagger Dec 20, 2018, 9:27 PM

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Yeah pretty much, getting that first upgrade changes the way the game flows a ton

gaunt crown Dec 20, 2018, 9:28 PM

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even with upgrades you have a bit of vulnerability at the end of the dash before you can keep running, this is by design I assume otherwise it would be way too easy to avoid things.

wise meteor Dec 20, 2018, 9:32 PM

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Going through the entire list of feedback to see if something is mentionned or not, posting it and having it silently deleted feels bad

glad dagger Dec 20, 2018, 9:33 PM

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:c

vestal lodge Dec 20, 2018, 9:44 PM

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Sorry @wise meteor That was listed a couple of times!

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A quick search for "cast" would have worked too...

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I deleted it... I guess I should have said something!

glad dagger Dec 20, 2018, 9:50 PM

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Is #hades-feedback the right place for bug reports?

alpine stratus Dec 20, 2018, 9:51 PM

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as of yesterday, nope! pls press f10 and use the in game bug reporter

glad dagger Dec 20, 2018, 9:51 PM

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Ah I wasn't aware there was an in-game reporter, thanks!

vestal lodge Dec 20, 2018, 9:56 PM

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If it's something that requires help, you can use #h1-tech-support too

lucid sail Dec 20, 2018, 9:56 PM

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maybe more option will be good cause today a lot of room have one way/door

stray knoll Dec 20, 2018, 9:57 PM

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is there somewhere I can purchase the soundtrack?

lucid sail Dec 20, 2018, 9:57 PM

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not now

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but when they will release the game

stray knoll Dec 20, 2018, 9:58 PM

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ugh. is there some way I can get mp3s of some songs for private use? I want to do some D&D stuff with the music, but using youtube videos isnt quite feasible

topaz estuary Dec 20, 2018, 9:59 PM

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There are various sites that can convert a youtube video into an mp3

stray knoll Dec 20, 2018, 9:59 PM

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yeah, i just feel bad doing that

topaz estuary Dec 20, 2018, 9:59 PM

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I think that would be okay for private use? Given that it's gonna be lower quality than buying the soundtrack

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(That's what I've done in the meantime, but as soon as the soundtrack is available I'm most definitely buying it)

glad dagger Dec 20, 2018, 9:59 PM

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Was a gameplay related bug, it's all good. Thanks for the advice though!

topaz estuary Dec 20, 2018, 9:59 PM

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(Because it's worth it)

stray knoll Dec 20, 2018, 10:00 PM

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i still plan to buy it

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just like i bought the ost for bastion

gaunt crown Dec 20, 2018, 10:08 PM

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I know the tracks are up on spotify as well, if that makes a difference

devout plinth Dec 20, 2018, 10:50 PM

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thank hades every day for dusa emote

fiery pebble Dec 20, 2018, 11:01 PM

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Does anyone else get FPS drops in fights with a lot of projectiles?

knotty fog Dec 20, 2018, 11:01 PM

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only if i have other windows open

fiery pebble Dec 20, 2018, 11:03 PM

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Guess my PC might be a bit too weak

gaunt crown Dec 20, 2018, 11:05 PM

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mine chugs a bit on the timed survival rooms if it's a bunch of the big guys

fiery pebble Dec 20, 2018, 11:10 PM

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Man I had a busted build this time

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Damage reduction boons from Aphro and Athena, and weak dash from Aphro

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Facetanked the entire second boss, didnt even use death defiance once

gaunt crown Dec 20, 2018, 11:12 PM

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I have wondered about building pure tank, shield athena aphro myrmidon

fiery pebble Dec 20, 2018, 11:12 PM

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Didnt have Myrmidon, but yeah

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You take very little damage

swift torrent Dec 20, 2018, 11:12 PM

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Quick question - where should I post info about missmatched dialogs - as a bug from in game menu or in feedback channel?

gaunt crown Dec 20, 2018, 11:13 PM

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I would guess in-game menu

swift torrent Dec 20, 2018, 11:14 PM

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Ok, will use that one then.

rugged burrow Dec 21, 2018, 1:12 AM

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any possibility of hades publishing on Discord as well? or do they have an exclusive contract with epic

real narwhal Dec 21, 2018, 1:13 AM

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on the info it just says "bring Hades to a variety of other platforms" after early access

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so i think its kinda unsure for now, maybe am wrong

marsh rover Dec 21, 2018, 1:27 AM

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Hades on Switch when?

fair echo Dec 21, 2018, 1:30 AM

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After it's done so probably quite a while away.

real narwhal Dec 21, 2018, 1:30 AM

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yeah probably quite sometime

cerulean vigil Dec 21, 2018, 1:41 AM

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@fiery pebble I had frame drops in second boss fight but then I dropped my resolution

fiery pebble Dec 21, 2018, 1:42 AM

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I see

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I just get it occasionally when there are a lot of enemies

polar thunder Dec 21, 2018, 1:44 AM

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Weird question. Is Hades giftable at this time?

fair echo Dec 21, 2018, 1:44 AM

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Unfortunately the EPIC games store doesn't have a gifting method yet.

polar thunder Dec 21, 2018, 1:44 AM

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Ah okay. That's a shame.

elder forge Dec 21, 2018, 2:06 AM

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@autumn pine just saw ur feedback about cast, totally agree with it (made a feedback about cast being too "simple")

topaz estuary Dec 21, 2018, 2:07 AM

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~~You can give him ambrosia but it doesn't have any effect~~

elder forge Dec 21, 2018, 2:07 AM

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well there is some text that he say when you give him

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to know what he will say is only up to you ^^

autumn pine Dec 21, 2018, 2:08 AM

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oh glad you liked it! yea as far as personal game feel cast doesn't really feel like it synchs up with the rest of your kit

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so like the debuff thing would hopefully make it more useful even if you run like a bow

elder forge Dec 21, 2018, 2:09 AM

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tried to do some run, only based on CAST, and the only one i had some real fun with was using poseidon's boon on cast, since it does a huge aoe/knockback damage

brisk trail Dec 21, 2018, 2:09 AM

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If it was giftable I would totally get it for some of my friends as a christmas present

elder forge Dec 21, 2018, 2:11 AM

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@topaz estuary I disagree with ur last feedback, i think people will at a point remember how many room there is, and even if the number of room fluctuate, it completely relate to the Lore part where everything in the underworld move, so you never know when you will face meg

topaz estuary Dec 21, 2018, 2:11 AM

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Oh, no, I guess I worded it badly

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What I'm saying is more that: is it meant to be predictable or not?

elder forge Dec 21, 2018, 2:11 AM

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(or maybe i read it badly)

topaz estuary Dec 21, 2018, 2:11 AM

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If it's supposed to be predictable, indicating it would be nice

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If it's not supposed to be predictable, that should be changed, because rn I can predict 100%

gaunt crown Dec 21, 2018, 2:12 AM

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I think it's ok that it's predictable but also ok that it's a knowledge you acquire after a few runs

elder forge Dec 21, 2018, 2:12 AM

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^ totally agree

knotty fog Dec 21, 2018, 2:12 AM

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it seems intentionally predictable to me, which makes sense. even in a random game, you should have an idea of when the boss is coming up

elder forge Dec 21, 2018, 2:13 AM

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i don't think an indicator would be nice, this would cause stress during the room before meg and player could lost some hp only cause they know that they MUST keep as much health as they can

gaunt crown Dec 21, 2018, 2:13 AM

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a lot of the satisfaction in a game like this is building up the knowledge of how things work, what's good, etc. in addition to the actual gameplay skill you develop

elder forge Dec 21, 2018, 2:14 AM

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on another topic, i'm still totally frustrated at how much people react my feedback as irrelevant / not complying to rule. (and i'm kinda salty about that lmao)

misty orchid Dec 21, 2018, 2:14 AM

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@polar thunder I gave him Ambrosia - didn't get a gift in return, but yes He did take the gift

gaunt crown Dec 21, 2018, 2:14 AM

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haha, yeah I know that feel of getting a bunch of thumbs down, it sucks but that's how it goes.

elder forge Dec 21, 2018, 2:14 AM

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Yeah but you should have get a dialog iirc x)

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that not even thumbdown, i mean if i got thumbdown i'm like "well ok, maybe they will tell me why they think the feedback in himself isn't good and how i should see thing"

prisma wind Dec 21, 2018, 2:16 AM

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I take the thumbs down to mean (as it says in the readme) that you disagree, not necessarily that it's not good feedback ¯_(ツ)_/¯

karmic basalt Dec 21, 2018, 2:16 AM

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sometimes i thumbsup/down and also mark the x bc i sort of agree but the rules also say ppl shouldn't suggest ideas 😂

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so im like ???

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/does both 😂

elder forge Dec 21, 2018, 2:16 AM

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it's not said ppl shoudln't suggest

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it's said that there is no need

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it's not forbidden xD

karmic basalt Dec 21, 2018, 2:17 AM

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ye sry i worded that badly

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i only do the X if the only thing is a suggestion and not also explaining their reasoning behind it bc of their experience or smth

polar thunder Dec 21, 2018, 2:17 AM

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@misty orchid What is the context of that message to me?

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I just asked if Hades was giftable.

prisma wind Dec 21, 2018, 2:19 AM

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I think they misread your message about gifting Hades as giving Ambrosia to the in-game Hades, not giving an IRL person the game as a gift

karmic basalt Dec 21, 2018, 2:19 AM

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but most of the time i ust don't react if idk how i feel about it bc i haven't run into the same thing lol

polar thunder Dec 21, 2018, 2:19 AM

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Ohhhhh.

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Yeah I mean the game giftable to another person.

elder forge Dec 21, 2018, 2:19 AM

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then i don't think u marked X on my feedback since that exactly what i did, feedback about how i feel about a thing, then i gave example about how it could be fix, but since those are example there is obviously a lot more that could be added, those are just the few that came up in mind

karmic basalt Dec 21, 2018, 2:20 AM

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i honestly don't remember bc i've read all the feedbacks so far and it's starting to blur in my head jflsdkj

polar thunder Dec 21, 2018, 2:20 AM

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Was going to send it as a gift to a few friends to spread the Hades love.

elder forge Dec 21, 2018, 2:20 AM

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yeah i'm trying to read them all too, and it's beginning to make a lot

karmic basalt Dec 21, 2018, 2:21 AM

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o i forgot i also X the ones that sound more like bug reports

elder forge Dec 21, 2018, 2:22 AM

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yeah i do too, that seems obvious since it's in the feedback rule

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but anyway, i hope they will add :
-something to dump key/darkness/ambrosia
-something to increase difficulty / number of room so that a run feel longer
-change cast to add feature that would actually make it fun to use and / or worth it to take the upgrade in the mirror

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More story seems obvious to me so it's not in the list (because they are certainly working a hell lot on it)

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and maybe tweak the spear and the shield a bit so the main attack have some sort of combo like the sword

surreal mesa Dec 21, 2018, 2:27 AM

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Is there a game save location that i can back up so I can play Hades on my laptop?

elder forge Dec 21, 2018, 2:28 AM

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yep

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my document / saved game / Hades

surreal mesa Dec 21, 2018, 2:29 AM

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perfect, thanks!

static nymph Dec 21, 2018, 2:30 AM

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Wait so can you use that to transfer your save data to another laptop?

surreal mesa Dec 21, 2018, 2:30 AM

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Yeah, most games save to a different filepath than the executable

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So that if you uninstall the game it doesn't delete the smaller save file info

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So if you back up the Hades folder and place it in the same file path you can continue on the same game on a different device, provided you have logged into your account and redownloaded the game

static nymph Dec 21, 2018, 2:37 AM

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Good to know thanks

supple raven Dec 21, 2018, 3:05 AM

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is there a way to gift someone else the game? I want to surprise my friend with this for Christmas but I don't see a method on the epic store page

topaz estuary Dec 21, 2018, 3:07 AM

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Sadly not yet

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What I'm doing is sending them a link and $20 on PayPal

brisk trail Dec 21, 2018, 3:11 AM

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Yeah that's the only method currently

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But it kinda ruins the surprise if you tell them to buy it with sent money haha

supple raven Dec 21, 2018, 3:11 AM

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yeah that's what I was hoping to avoid

prisma wind Dec 21, 2018, 3:22 AM

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Step 1: Gain access to their computer
Step 2: Hope they have an Epic account and are already logged in
Step 2a: If step 2 isn't actionable, create one or hack their existing
Step 3: Purchase (with your own money, not a saved account Kappa ) the game and install it
Step 4: Surprise them with their new copy of Hades!

Disclaimer: p l e a s e d o n o t d o t h i s

karmic basalt Dec 21, 2018, 3:46 AM

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Re tec feedback I don't actually mind those bc sometimes I don't have the money for better items anyways 😂 so the price variety is nice esp if I goofed up and took damage before meg, I actually appreciate the snacks at times
But that's just me it's probably annoying to ppl who are better at dodging lol

alpine silo Dec 21, 2018, 3:47 AM

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@prisma wind What if they already have it installed?

gaunt crown Dec 21, 2018, 3:48 AM

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yeah, the health refill can be a lifesaver, darkness and ambrosia are both useless during the run itself though, so I can appreciate the idea behind the feedback

prisma wind Dec 21, 2018, 3:50 AM

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@alpine silo Then you don't need to buy it for them? 😆

alpine silo Dec 21, 2018, 3:51 AM

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Yeah, you can’t do step 3&4

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But maybe, you gain an alternative step 3 : surprise they’re already a fan

gaunt crown Dec 21, 2018, 3:52 AM

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make a new account for them and buy hades on that, two is better than one

olive jungle Dec 21, 2018, 3:59 AM

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@signal shale please use the F10 bug reporter in game to report bugs!

signal shale Dec 21, 2018, 4:00 AM

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Ah, didn't seem like it was a bug so much as misaligned text. Will do next time I come across it! Thanks for the heads up!

devout plinth Dec 21, 2018, 5:35 AM

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If there’s one thing I’m worried about with this game it’s player retention while developing it. Like I super hope people don’t just leave early access mid process

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Won’t be a problem for me but u know... thinkin

prisma wind Dec 21, 2018, 5:35 AM

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There are a lot of people who just straight up won't buy EA games, so hopefully there will be an influx at full release

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With their dev cycle I think it won't be hard to retain people. New content at regular intervals is nice

devout plinth Dec 21, 2018, 5:37 AM

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Yeah, for sure. On top of little patches too 👌

marble sphinx Dec 21, 2018, 5:50 AM

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with most EA games the player count increases and decreases over the course of development

simple falcon Dec 21, 2018, 5:53 AM

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just joined this discord but man i am enjoying Hades. It's so much friggin fun. Shouts out to the team.

prisma wind Dec 21, 2018, 5:54 AM

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Welcome, Vincent!

devout plinth Dec 21, 2018, 5:57 AM

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hey!

vague oyster Dec 21, 2018, 6:12 AM

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🖐🏼

simple falcon Dec 21, 2018, 6:35 AM

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yo whaddup!

faint heath Dec 21, 2018, 6:59 AM

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Hey guys! new here, hades looks so cool

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I wish it was released for switch too 😄

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Darren Korb is such a talented composer! love his work

torn quiver Dec 21, 2018, 7:04 AM

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Did they buff poseidon? With spear attack it is knocking back enemies absurdly far and seems to even be knocking back armored enemies

prisma wind Dec 21, 2018, 7:27 AM

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Not that I'm aware of, Poseidon knockback has been crazy for a while

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Welcome, mycroft!

nimble harness Dec 21, 2018, 7:50 AM

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If you want some hilarious knockback action, try Poseidon with Shield normal attack

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In the second zone, you can literally make them fly away at the other side of the map

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There's a weird interaction between multiple sources of knockback, usually stuff gets sent away exponentially stronger

crisp ice Dec 21, 2018, 7:52 AM

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That actually seems really good in asphodal

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You can actually throw things into the lava pretty easily

bright cloak Dec 21, 2018, 7:52 AM

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unless you have floating enemies

nimble harness Dec 21, 2018, 7:52 AM

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Yeah, they just need to do something about the piles of ashes stopping the enemies and not even doing wall damage

crisp ice Dec 21, 2018, 7:53 AM

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Yeah but this is why you need to have a plan with your special. I think what asphodal in general punishes more than anything, is if you've put all your eggs in one basket for what your primary source of damage is.

nimble harness Dec 21, 2018, 7:53 AM

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As for flying enemies, I personnaly don't really care. They are either the pink or blue crystals, which help having them away, or the witches - but at that point I usually have a Deflect boon on something and they die on their own

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And also, that's not really an issue Casts can't solve

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I love Casts. Casts runs are my personal favourite

late elm Dec 21, 2018, 8:16 AM

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Oh god I made the mistake of taking Poseidon on shield throw

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When it comes flying back and picks up wretches aling the way

willow badger Dec 21, 2018, 8:23 AM

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when it comes to buffs for a certain aspect of your kit... can you only get 1?

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like for example

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sword attackbuff

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can i get the athena one that lets me deflect and the damage buff plus the aphrodite one?

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also am i only allowed to get 1 deadalus hammer per run??

tepid orchid Dec 21, 2018, 8:38 AM

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yes to both

prisma wind Dec 21, 2018, 8:43 AM

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Yes, only 1 boon each that modifies your attack, special, cast, or dash to add on god-specific abilities. Yes, only one Daedalus Hammer per run. You can still get multiple other boons as long as they don't add an ability to one of the 4 actions

brisk trail Dec 21, 2018, 8:45 AM

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^ Yup, things like aprodite which add weakness to attacks or curse from ares, and crit from artemis

cerulean flare Dec 21, 2018, 9:28 AM

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is it just me or is this game basically impossible to google lol

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i have to say stuff like "ares hades supergiant" or whatever

brisk trail Dec 21, 2018, 9:37 AM

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What are you trying to look up Lucius?

nimble harness Dec 21, 2018, 9:44 AM

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"hades game" leads to proper results for me

late elm Dec 21, 2018, 10:07 AM

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I have a ton of Supergiant google searches in my log so google already knows what I want before I want it

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But it will give you a ton of Smite related stuff, so yeah

cerulean flare Dec 21, 2018, 10:45 AM

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yea im getting like smite and some other various stuff like some counterstrike or whatever lol

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i think as i click on more things about this game it should give me better results?

elder forge Dec 21, 2018, 11:41 AM

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The game released like 2 week ago so it's normal that Google ain't answering well

brisk trail Dec 21, 2018, 11:44 AM

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anybody has the issue that the cast button doesnt work on xbox controlleR?

karmic trellis Dec 21, 2018, 11:44 AM

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no

brisk trail Dec 21, 2018, 11:44 AM

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for me it dashes when i press it instead of cast

karmic trellis Dec 21, 2018, 11:44 AM

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I play with a xbox one and a 360 controller both fine

brisk trail Dec 21, 2018, 11:44 AM

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Think3d

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i assume epic store has the same cloud save feature as steam

karmic trellis Dec 21, 2018, 11:45 AM

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nope

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sadly not : /

brisk trail Dec 21, 2018, 11:46 AM

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damm cant even un and reinstall to fix it

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D:

karmic trellis Dec 21, 2018, 11:48 AM

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you can backup your saves

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they are stored in you documents directory under saved games

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the uninstall might not even touch them

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but unsure

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just keep a copy somewhere and reinstall : )

little fable Dec 21, 2018, 12:27 PM

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just google hades supergiant

late elm Dec 21, 2018, 12:28 PM

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What drivers are you using? I just fire it up from Steam to use theirs, works like a charm, even maps to correct letters on the Switch controller

brisk trail Dec 21, 2018, 12:29 PM

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wouldnt know

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not a tech guy

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like right now my cast is on LT same with the info button xD

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but in the keybind menu it says its on B

late elm Dec 21, 2018, 12:31 PM

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Maybe that’s a question for #h1-tech-support

brisk trail Dec 21, 2018, 12:32 PM

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yeh just wanted to ask here if it was a common thing

acoustic breach Dec 21, 2018, 1:12 PM

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Hi. Anyone know where the game files are stored in EGS?

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Oh, I found it ^^

karmic trellis Dec 21, 2018, 2:08 PM

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documents\saved games\hades in case anyone else is wondering

elder forge Dec 21, 2018, 3:11 PM

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@brisk trail do look into #h1-tech-support the solution is here iirc

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#hades-tech-fixes-old **

empty copper Dec 21, 2018, 3:14 PM

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At long last, one dead hydra

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damn that thing is tough

elder forge Dec 21, 2018, 3:14 PM

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congratz

empty copper Dec 21, 2018, 3:14 PM

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got real lucky that run too, got the legendary Zeus boon

elder forge Dec 21, 2018, 3:16 PM

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my first hydra kill was with ares attack boon and hammer triple shot

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and it literally exploded the hydra

empty copper Dec 21, 2018, 5:22 PM

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not too big of bow fan but the insta charge upgrade did make like it more

shut crest Dec 21, 2018, 5:40 PM

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my first kill was also zeus based. felt so freaking amazing nuggetsofwisdom

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keep on grinding this damn hydra. it will eventually get easier!

tawny stone Dec 21, 2018, 5:43 PM

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Just had a really high upgraded Zues Dash and a decent buff to my special for sword so I could clear rooms better to get there.

empty copper Dec 21, 2018, 5:44 PM

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imma keep it on slow grind, dont wanna burn out before the first major patch xD

tawny stone Dec 21, 2018, 5:44 PM

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I want to feel like I am competent so Im fine with running run after run. Also I want to max the mirrior even for the silly boon rarity upgrades

patent hull Dec 21, 2018, 5:57 PM

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am i the only one who's bothered by zoom out during Hydra's fight? Most of the time i don't even see Zag

tawny stone Dec 21, 2018, 6:01 PM

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I feel it would very hard if you couldn't see the whole fight.

hexed smelt Dec 21, 2018, 6:02 PM

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i'd be fine with the zoom out if there was some way they highlighted zag

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it's ridiculously easy to lose track of him in all the kerfuffle

tawny stone Dec 21, 2018, 6:03 PM

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I feel the fight could use a larger room. But it likely would have issues with how the fight works. It just feels so cramped right now trying to dodge everything while still doing damage.

dense sail Dec 21, 2018, 6:04 PM

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Yeah the zoomout was mentioned in a feedback post or difficulty seeing Zag anyway

tawny stone Dec 21, 2018, 6:08 PM

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The screen is just very busy in general. Which is fine if you can compartmentalize things. I think if the middle serpent stopped firing and just aggressively patrolled its area while immune, it would help with not overwhelming the player. Might make it too easy though. akashrug

shut crest Dec 21, 2018, 6:17 PM

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ever played with 3 or 4 boons in increased bladerift radius? you will not only lose track of zag but also from your mouse cursor

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that is so hilarious

tawny stone Dec 21, 2018, 6:21 PM

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I find it ok to find your character when using controller. But maybe thats just cause Im used to busy screens akashrug

simple falcon Dec 21, 2018, 6:50 PM

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yea the screen can get busy at times but i usually dash out and funnel enemies into one point. allows me to keep track of things

topaz flicker Dec 21, 2018, 6:56 PM

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bug report: This game doesn't have steam trading cards so I can't get my badge D:

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my collection is incomplete!

void vigil Dec 21, 2018, 6:57 PM

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it is.......... not on steam yet

topaz flicker Dec 21, 2018, 6:57 PM

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that...... that was the joke

tawny stone Dec 21, 2018, 6:58 PM

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Kappa Good one

void vigil Dec 21, 2018, 7:00 PM

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its a good joke when you havent seen a million complaints about hades not being on steam, im sure :')

topaz flicker Dec 21, 2018, 7:00 PM

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fair enough

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definitely have been in chatrooms where topic overload was a thing

tawny stone Dec 21, 2018, 7:03 PM

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Yeah. I mean I was confused at first too. But I feel this way you don't have the army of people who judge a game before its done. Plus Steam has a really bad rep with their early access games.

topaz flicker Dec 21, 2018, 7:04 PM

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From what I've heard epic has been pretty good to devs

signal pendant Dec 21, 2018, 7:04 PM

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Uhm, have no permission to leave feedback... Interesting

topaz flicker Dec 21, 2018, 7:05 PM

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You don't have the early access rank

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go to bot commands and ?rank Early Access

signal pendant Dec 21, 2018, 7:05 PM

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Oh, i see, wan't there before

tepid orchid Dec 21, 2018, 7:05 PM

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and read the pin!

topaz flicker Dec 21, 2018, 7:05 PM

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Pins are for losers!

signal pendant Dec 21, 2018, 7:06 PM

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I've read it. Diagonally...

topaz flicker Dec 21, 2018, 7:06 PM

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shadesmile

hexed smelt Dec 21, 2018, 7:11 PM

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pins are for cool people

signal pendant Dec 21, 2018, 7:11 PM

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Oh, there memory loss if you don't restart game every now and than. Maybe that causes issues with Ares cast... Freezes where just too game ruining to ignore. Considering i have pretty good rig
Gonna check out after restart

drifting emberBOT Dec 21, 2018, 7:11 PM

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Thanks for reporting a game freeze! The most common solution to this issue can be found in #hades-tech-fixes-old

signal pendant Dec 21, 2018, 7:12 PM

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I didn't report anything. Yet

knotty fog Dec 21, 2018, 7:12 PM

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the bot automatically replies if you talk about the game freezing

drifting emberBOT Dec 21, 2018, 7:12 PM

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Thanks for reporting a game freeze! The most common solution to this issue can be found in #hades-tech-fixes-old

knotty fog Dec 21, 2018, 7:12 PM

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see

devout plinth Dec 21, 2018, 7:12 PM

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Oh wow

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Does it do anything or just say that

knotty fog Dec 21, 2018, 7:13 PM

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it does a couple of other things

signal pendant Dec 21, 2018, 7:13 PM

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I got it first time... I was not serious.

devout plinth Dec 21, 2018, 7:14 PM

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No I mean does it actually report after you say it

knotty fog Dec 21, 2018, 7:14 PM

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OH i have no idea

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mb

hexed smelt Dec 21, 2018, 7:15 PM

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it does not

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it's just a message telling you a thing

tawny stone Dec 21, 2018, 7:46 PM

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Tis a bug it seems

main lark Dec 21, 2018, 8:43 PM

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hey, everytime I open the game I have to adjust the volume on the settings because they dont save when i close it

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I dont know if this is the channel to talk about it, sorry if isn't the case

void vigil Dec 21, 2018, 8:46 PM

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yeah this is a common issue ://

little fable Dec 21, 2018, 8:53 PM

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I've seen a few people in feedback complain about dark thirst, am I the only one who actually really likes the mechanic? It's not strong enough that you feel pressured to use a particular weapon, you can still pick whatever, but it's a nice nudge for when you can't decide

void vigil Dec 21, 2018, 8:53 PM

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no i love it

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i think its a perfect incentive, and even when im not farming darkness i pick it as a challenge for myself just for fun

little fable Dec 21, 2018, 8:54 PM

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so much that

void vigil Dec 21, 2018, 8:54 PM

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bc yeah bow is good rn but variety is always good

little fable Dec 21, 2018, 8:55 PM

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I think if it was stronger it'd feel like the game pressures you into using a particular weapon which wouldn't be good either

sterile peak Dec 21, 2018, 9:34 PM

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it's just a nice way to encourage variety, like how Transistor did it

brisk trail Dec 21, 2018, 9:35 PM

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@brisk trail your feedback post noted that

" Currently the blink direction happens to be the direction Zag is facing "

You can change this you know?