#h1-discussion
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Would be based
May I introduce you to RD, which gives you 50-100% global?
why cant i have both š¢
You can!
yay!
Cuz hermes is mean
RD so silly
ah yes getting 2 boons from the most uncooperative god in the game
may I introduce you to Rush Delivery with an absurd number of Ichors
Routed anyone?
yummy drugs
Insert the eris route
that video was insane im still not going to play erios ever š¼
!ban
The world if Hermes didn't get off on giving me HS but not RD

eris lowkey ruined h1 for me
Play with Zeus, it's much nicer
Eris is so comfy
Eris stinky 
but eris is very versatile so maybe ill find smth ill like on it later
is poseidon attack good. on anything
at all
In some super cursed timeline, Dio Beo
whjat
if you want ea just grab pos special
Time to create some 40 heat em4 savestates
Alternate reality where trippy double pom bug was found first and got patched but chsrged flight was never touched
pos special is unironically good tho right
I mean
Eh
2nd to aphro
Itās unironically high damage numbers for a bad effect
It's pretty meh
And the lnockback hurts more than it helps
ahh i see
In theory yeah but I don't wanna use it
Arty and Aphro are better, but it's fine ig
But I'm a big fan of pos special on Chiron
that does sound fun
Sgg should do a last patch and it just removes the internal cooldown
Ah yes, Sea Storm Chiron, the only Chiron build that actually does damage
It wouldn't save chiron but it'd be funny
Even without sea storm
Pos special + the t2 (img I actually forgot the name) do good dmg
What's the name
Hydro might?
Beaver or the boss dmg one
The status
Shoals
Shoals
Shoals my beloved
How could I forget šš
Shoals kinda cracked ngl
shoals is so fun
Is prob my fav curse ngl
Jolted 
jolted is so cool too omg
Jolted is super good
I have a love hate relationship. With jolt
But there's something funny about enemies walking and eventually dying
But the damn thing is more elusive than epic rd
why is jolted running away form you
you mustve done smth to jolted
oo hunters mark was rly good to]
Was that an ap2 moment
Idk man Blood and Darkness goes kinda hard
Darkness as in the move lmao
dankness oop i guess ill die to timer now
i had so much pain with the timer in this game
i love how speedrunning changes the perspective on a game
One of angel's 64h attempts died like that
i dont know why
i rmeember that
how many 64h clears are therenow
A lot
unmodded unseeded
Oh the Hades move
damn thats quite impressive
They sgouldāve never added it
With mod, prob around 50?
with 90% of those from mysterra right
zamn
What better rng does to a runner
how man yaspects have done it
or rather less rng
What being mysterra does to a person
Gilga 64 when?
@/cherry
Get cherry on the case
Mysterra Icy flare 64 when?
They did 60, but Beo gets hard walled at 62 due to RI3
eris??
Playad got that a while ago
No hesti? š
wtf
this is unreal
ohh cast build huh
this guy is unreal
62 hypermodded has been done
damn they really highrolled for the legendary
not high roll, it's worse than epic jolted
it works how you think it would, it adds an extra lightning effect to every hit
Strike with zeus stuff and you get an extra bolt/projectile
spawns a 40 damage projectile on the enemy shooting towards another enemy
Jolted is just a god tier boon
does it have an icd or smth
bc it doesnt feel as strong as it should
Probably but I don't think any of the usual zeus weapons would run into it
tbh it doesnāt feel like itās got a .15s cooldown, maybe smthig higher
I've gotten it like twice so idk
epic jolted is 120 right
140 iirc?
no way an epic jolted can be 90 lol
Also god h1 icons are so nice
IKR
the little arm snap for the jolted icon
yes
They are baby sized
theyre also incomprehensible
try to tell aphrodite boons apart by only the icon
impossible
these are aphrodite boonshttps://media.discordapp.net/attachments/716773442958917753/1261161745280663704/image.png?ex=6691f3e7&is=6690a267&hm=922e92cbc262264f35ebd8d6910306921a8cff59ab7f54bf1639329194685bb4&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1386&height=408
oh
bleh
I could certainly get them
but
Itād take some time
Oh speaking of getting
theyre also tiny in game
I still need to get Hades II
also spoilers
Iām actually so dismayed that my favourite afro boon isnāt in the game
dw about that
At least broken resolve is there
you'll be pleasantly surprised
hey
that's mine
Real
I was about to say ācredit: ā but
Absolutely forgot who I took it from
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i think the eris route got beat by a beo route
not sure if i'm misremembering tho
ye, dio beo beat it
but eris cooler
still by vorime tho lmao
true but beo is funnier
can you get 100% damage resistance with godmode if you die enough
Maxes at 80%
are there other ways to get titan blood after getting them all weapons besides the shop in area 4
Fishing. Prophecies.
i got 3 pomes in styx shop i think the game wants me to upgrade stuff
I got my first 2 clears today, one on heat 2. Both under 30 attempts
I am talking about one lmao
Anyways very glad I cleared w just one defiance the first time because now with 3 it feels so much easier, even w dookie builds
don't mind the bot, it just constantly says that as a reminder to people
I dislike this bot with a burning hatred, I hope it achieves sentience so it can feel incredibly depressed about its existence.
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Boiling blood and abyssal blood effects do not stack if there is more than one cast in the foe, right? Or am I trippin?
ligma balls
No it doesnāt stack
Bruh, reddit is gaslighting me
Show me who said that lmao
Reddit is generally very wrong about most things hades related
I would never take anything reddit says to heart lmao
Their build advice is concerning and they're generally pretty wrong about game mechanics a lot of the time
There are a handful of people who know what they're talking about but the majority don't
Lmao
Yeah idk man lmao
Abyssal blood is 30% damage and move speed reduction. Why would 90% damage and move speed reduction be balanced
I would personally just not be downvoted tbh
I think my most "controversial" thing I said on reddit was the fact that I think every player can clear 32 heat and get a sub 10 if they wanted to
Someone also said I over valued Achilles spear and hades spear is a lot better lmao
So like
Don't listen to reddit
I have more than enough karma to not care about downvotes. Posting funny or relatable panels from manga pays off :D
Lmao fair
All my karma or whatever is from the hades subreddit tho
Also some guy gave me an award for linking the hestia guide from like
Nearly a year ago??
And this happened like a couple days ago or something
So idk what happened there lmao
I used to be active ish on the subreddit before h2 dropped

Found the thread and some are saying that dad's boiling blood stack too
Will this bot ever stop?
Prob when H2 1.0 releases 
I actually can't stand the subreddit
Try sitting then
I feel I benefitted from the ye olde Chthonic Conversations series on the subreddit when I was very new, but the average quality nowadays is quite wild
I got ME
i got me too
no you don't
oh
Merciful end
Me three!
yall wanna see my current build
no
/jk, sure
oh wait I can't send pics
there's a way, you just have to mess around with the link a bit
copy the media link and share it here
how do I do that?
DM a bot with the image and then right click and copy image link
I can't tell what your attack boon is
Common doom 
I got deadly reversal too
ares
what aspect/weapon
normal twin fist
gotcha
so am I cooking?
athena special, artemis cast, athena dash?
yep
Aspectless fists
I used all my titan blood for the bow of chiron
look it's fun ok
I didn't even beat hades yet
No fun allowed! 
Chiron 
doesn't look too bad to me honestly
ares attack is fine on fists because it's big flat damage, though having dire misfortune would be nice
athena dash is always good
They have ME so dire doesnt do a whole lot they want impending and poms 
my main goal is to get inpending doom
bronze skin isn't fantastic but it's not the worst thing either
fair
which hermes boon is that
hyper sprint
nice, hyper sprint is good times
it's not an ideal build but i think it's pretty solid
at the very very least, it's a good foundation for something quite effective
Only 50 base damage doom hurts it a lot
If you get 2 poms youāre doubling your doom base damage
yea, literally all my poms have not been for doom
something something "rarity doesn't matter"
where are you now, rarity dismissers
It does for doom 
Rarity def does for doom
"rarity doesn't matter except when it does"
Itās more like
Donāt roll for rarity but are you really keeping common doom chamber 1
Time to get rush deliv from styx hermes
I'm being sarcastic, I've never really agreed with the "rarity doesn't matter" belief
It implies that rarity never makes a difference when it definitely does
I've been trying to get that one demeter boon that resets all your rarities, but increases your rarity every 3 chambers
that one's fun, but what region are you in atm
elysium
ohh yeah that's uhh
not great
you want to get rare crop as early as possible so that you can ensure it affects the boon you want
rather than just landing on a boon you have little use for
Jumpy mobs in Asphodel like
https://youtu.be/8Su546mXhzk?si=az16dG5R35mUSP9K
This guy does this almost everyday even without me provoking him
https://imgur.com/a/BNHagRK nah theyre more like catapults 
Oops I meant Asphodel. Thanks
HADES HAS A SECOND PHASE?
Rip
had to watch this 5 times to understand
probably like 5 percent
Can you gift the same god more than 1 nectar on the same run? Or just the first time you see them?
Once per run
learning process (TM)
hey guys I have well over 100 hours in Hades and it's only just now hitting me that I kinda suck? I've been playing the Switch version, which has auto aim. The second I turn auto aim off, I stop being as good as I thought I was. Is the PC version the "true experience" that I've been depriving myself of?
cool, this is about Hades
ignore the sticky, that's just to keep the channels on the right track
nah don't feel like you're playing it the 'wrong' way, there's no such thing
if you're having fun and getting results, who cares exactly what platform you're playing on
I play with auto aim on and I have > 1000 hours
Vast majority of the speedrun and high heat community use it Iād say
is there auto aim on the PC version?
Yeah
Yeah you should just use auto aim for gamepad
I use auto-aim for rail but manual for everything else
Kbm
same except all reddit
has anyone thought that the Hades intro music reminds you of Assassinās Creed?
at least the start
?
Keyboard and mouse
You might want auto aim on in more scenarios if youāre using a controller
this makes me feel significantly less terrible about myself
ah
wdym
you turn off autoaim?
usually people turn off aim at cursor
isnt rail what people use the autoaim for th most?
thats literally what makes it one of the easiest weaps
thats not autoaim iirc
theres a separate toggle for autoaim
that everyone uses by default afaik
Alr

Dw about it
All I mean to say is that I let the computer aim when Iām playing rail and manually aim when Iām playing everything else
I realize that auto aim is actually called aim assist
just made the biggest mistake ever
got the chaos realm for the first time and chose the pauperās one. forgot i canāt get coin and passed on a daedalus hammer
why would you choose an Obol room over a Daedalus room in the first place??
im ngl he got u there
accident
cool?
whats cool
I think you can get a max of 3 per run? You can buy them at wells of Charon
5% iirc
ohh okay
iām thinking of picking up abyssal lunge but omg if i step on a trap im SEARED
you can expect to see 1/2/3 of those per run
i donāt really step on traps though
yeah itās odd bc itās just at the start of one
Max is whatever 34/7 is
34/7?
with no ixion
34 chambers with a 7 chamber cooldown
i think first chamber has better chaos odds ? or am i tripping
oh there r 34
maybe?
bro iām cooked iām not getting thru these chambers
on my 10th run and idek what the furthest iāve made it was
Well
There's free rooms before biome boss
And the midrooms
And bosses themselves
So like 25?
Assuming you get all combats
and 2 sack
Well that doesn't matter for chaos
oh yeah
oh okay
i just started yesterday so i still got no clue what iām doing iām just going
3 natural chaos in a run is kinda wild tho
I've had 4
but i have noticed iām actually getting better
once
i finally beat meg!!
demeter boon
cool
what's demeter boon
cool?
demeter boon
"Darkness. Darkness. Darkness"
stfu Hades
-Edward trying to sheet
I've lost like 4 to this 
whys demeter call bad
other stuff is better
it's also kinda weird to use
doesn't do a whole lot of damage
It slows enemies, but its damage is meh
Itās kinda just not zeus and dio call tbh
Itās also Edwardās list and not mine, I kinda like dem aid tbh
dems aid imo is the worst in the game
no way
isnt ares aid a dps loss 99% of the time
all calls give iframes no?
It's trash for speed
ah thats fair
no like, ur invincibile for the duration of it
I play heat more often than speed 
its trash for heat too
List was only for speed
Zeus is way better for speed
i meant heat lmao mb
oh
brain moment
yeah, dio call kinda slaps for heat
Ik theyāre both far better
Iād most often rather them
Pos and Athena are quite good for heat too
i hate dio aid bc it makes u blind
but it also melts everything
but sometimes you get forced into an awkward choice between like 2 dem cores and dem aid and Iād honestly take that over aphro aid, arte aid, and ares aid.
And I do enjoy when I have it
Itās not the best but
Itās certainly there
and zeus makes everything around you cluttered
Dem cores are fine to take most of the time
If Iām choosing between meme beams, a core I need for my build, and dem aid
Iām taking dem aid
Real
But Iām not popping dem aid and being like āeghhā
Like I would with arte and ares
Itās not stellar but itās ok.
i dont like dem aid because it makes dad skulls stick in the same place so i eat them instead of them going off into nowhere
why is there a tiny vermin boss fight???
what makes jolted so good
It proks a lot for big damage
Itās hard to tell without a dps meter mod
twice as much as your attack would do i think
depending on rarity and poms
and the enemy ofc
140 
wat
Yeah, I used Zyru's mod, which lets you see how much damage a boon did during the run, on Eris and Jolted did like 40k while attack did about 15k
not much needed for huge damage
i meant dps not actual damage
glad to know my instincts were close enough 
It clearly deals 140* attack dps
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unironically one of my favorite bosses just because of the novelty. Such a cute lil guy with such a massive healthbar. It reminds me of the rabbit from Monty Python and the Holy Grail
I hate Tony
Apparently a big Hades speed runner mistyped "Tiny" as "Tony", and the rest is history
Yes, Cgull mistyped it as tony vermin
So now everbody calls him Tony, and the big rat is Antony
Oh so thatās why I havenāt got a Lernie-esque dialogue where Zag calls him Tony yet
ANTONY
can you give infinite nectar to Bouldy? I've probably given him like 10 but my affinity with him isn't maxed out I guess
Yes
it's like I keep trying and trying to give Bouldy more nectar, but I never get any closer to maxing out my friendship with him
it's like I'm pushing a rock up a hill, but every time I think I'm getting closer to the top, there's just more hill
we should make a word for stuff like that
how about "Bouldian"?
"a Bouldian task: one which seems impossible and repetitive"
we should make a meme out of that
"we can make a religion out of this"
Is it possible for Asterius to spawn as a mini boss if you've never met Theseus before, or will it always be the giant butterfly ball?
Sounds like a question for @lavish sorrel
no you can def get asterius first run
Im guessing the dialogue starts with Zag asking "Erm, which are you?"
if you have a Chaos effect that makes you take damage when you attack/special/cast and you use it in Erebus, do you fail? Or do you only fail when you take damage from the enemies in Erebus?
I'm not gonna test it for obvious reasons
you dont fail
hey guys I just lost a Death Defiance to something that I can't even see. I took a replay of it and have watched it numerous times and I still can't tell what hit me. Is there somewhere I can send the clip and have someone help me figure out what happened?
You can send it here
no I can't
the only channels I can send files in are victory boasting (I lost) or tech support
Use the video link
link?? You want me to post it on yt? It's on my phone
right click what? On my phone?
after sending it somewhwere on discord
whatever I figured it out
the stupid freaking pot. I was on the perimeter
that killed my run
sorry, I killed my run, by walking into a stupid pot
no, I am
what's the best cast for aspect of Hera?
just for damage?
I mean, if your goal is to spread Weak, you'd go Heartbreak Flourish
i think trippy shot from dio is worth a mention but thats a whole other thing
.
Yeah Trippy Shot does more damage, right?
and stuns, and creates a zone that you can get boons for that make it give you damage reduction or lightning bolts
i dont really know the numbers actually but trippy is usually run with stygian soul bc waiting for the cast to pop back up with infernal is just impractical
Synergies are nice, but damage is king
awesome, I use Stygian Soul anyway
so you end up having to rely on lucky chaos boons giving you extra casts
I can just get chaos casts
ok gl
or Fully Loaded
why lmao?
lets just say it isnt the easiest thing in the world to get
I try to get it almost every run. Support Fire and Pressure Points.
support fire my beloved
Support Fire my precious
I would go exit wounds, but that doesn't work with Festive Fog
and I use that one Mirror upgrade that increases my chances for duos and legendaries
You cant get exit wounds with stygian to begin with
yes you can????
Okay maybe im trolling
if anything, it's BETTER, because if you have only 2 casts and Auto Reload, you can stack up like 10 casts on bosses. It's like giving Doom to your cast. Exit Wounds is probably best on Aspect of Poseidon though
exit wounds is overrrated
If I'm playing something like Poseidon or Hera, I love Exit Wounds
Otherwise it's very mediocre
Yes, and dialogue is different in that case:
"You come from the bowels of hell. This is not your place."
"Agreed on both counts! Just passing through, so if you'll excuse me..."
"I will not. <snort> The Champion of Elysium would never back down from such a contest. Neither will I."
"Wait, you're not the Champion of Elysium...? You're the Bull of Minos! I can't imagine who's even stronger than you. Is it Heracles? Tell me it's Heracles."
"I will not. <snort> You talk too much, short one. Come get destroyed."
very fast Vermin kill
Tony never stood a chance against my 8 cast Hera build
with Exit Wounds
someone pull up the roadkill clip
I'm sorry the what?
the tiny vermin being vulnerable to knockbacks like regular enemies is such a blessing
imagine if he was knockback immune
from poseidon?
mostly poseidon, yes
i dont see how being knockback immune makes much of a difference tho
imo knocking foes away kinda sucks unless you're playing a ranged weapon
in my experience, being able to just toss the vermin around and smash him against walls helps a lot with doing damage and just preventing him from attacking
have you played aspect of zeus yet
or tried poseidon dash
yes?
idk im just used to killing it ig
well
yeah
i'm saying that knockback makes it even easier to kill
fair
I'm saying Tidal Dash is better on Coronacht than Malphon
to be completely honest
modded 
how does aspect of Zeus benefit from poseidon?
if you trap an enemy between the disc and a wall
constantly smashing an enemy into the wall while constantly punching them is quite effective, dunno
huh, I didn't think of that. I've been using Drunken Flourish or Lightning Flourish with Aspect of Zeus
lightning flourish is good on aspect of zeus as well but i'd strongly recommend playing around with different specials
you might discover something remarkably effective
Admittedly, poseidon special on zeus shield is a rather niche strategy. There's little reason to play that over just regular zeus² other than discovering what else can work
i mean, if it works, it works, no?
'niche' doesn't really matter if you're doing well either way
I didn't mean to have that sound as though I was dunking on it
pos special is detrimental for zeus
It's a really funny strategy
my shield is like a cactus. It's never thirsty for darkness, so I never really get a chance to use it
I've only cleared like 7 Heat with it, whereas all my other weapons are past 10 heat
eh, agree to disagree
it takes some piloting, but the results can be very entertaining
Okay
"my shield is like a cactus"
sounds like an album title
cuz I'm a shield
I'm a cactus
what the Hades am I doing here?
I don't belong here
new shield aspect that's just a cross-section of a cactus
deals damage to enemies if they hit you while you're blocking
As a reasonably experienced zeus player I can say that poseidon on special is ass (or poseidon boons in general for zeus shield), it can do 64 as Mysterra/Bai proved but for normal human beings you should probably stick to something like aphro/zeus on special if your intention is to complete high heat efficiently.
64 heat, more than once even
reasonably experienced

does anyone actually like the rail
it might surprise you, but yes, for some
Well call me an abnormal human being then because I like it and have good times on it
It does need a few additional poseidon boons to get rolling I admit, but it's very entertaining once it does
It's a very popular weapon and widely regarded as one of the best in the game
So yes, I'd say a lot of people actually like it
Crazy
How do I unlock the secret aspects for my weapons
Then again given my heat preferences I perhaps shouldn't be surprised that my perspective is very different from other peoples'
Unlocking a secret weapon aspect requires you to have 5 titan blood expended into that weapon in total, and then to talk to a certain NPC, after which you can return to the weapon room and unlock it
uhhh, is the npc in the house of hades?
#h1-story-discussion pins
Not always
And yeah, there's a guide
Nyx doesn't have a aspect, Hades does but idk why he would tell us... Achiles?
he's the only one at the house of hades who has a weapon aspect, would tell us in the story, and sometimes not there?
If you want to find it out yourself, just talk to anyone and everyone you see, it's not as hard as you might think, just takes a while
As I said, some NPC's are not ever in the House of Hades
well I can't really get any titan blood because i have already gotten all ambrosia and titan blood with all my weapons
I assume you haven't escaped yet?
nope
got really close with a ME build, but I died to that stupid laser attack at the last phase
wait does Hades have a third phase?
Nah
you can get more titan blood through a variety of means, once you've started consistently clearing then the titan blood should start flowing in
agreed. It's so annoying to play with, especially in asphodel. And you can't always guarantee you'll have terrain to trap enemies with
poseidon in pool is often a reset just bc i don't want to play with him on attack or dash
what is the best fist aspect?
demeter
igght
is there anything I can dump my extra Titan Blood into? Occasionally the Wretched Broker has something to trade my Titan Blood for, but I collect titan blood at a faster rate than I can spend it
already have Stygian theme by the way
If you already maxed all aspects then is mostly trades
And some ranks use blood iirc?
Privileged Status of Family Favorite? I've been going FF basically my entire time playing the game because I haven't exactly figured out what kind of build would be best with PS
FF
PS is kinda useful in niche circumstances where you know youāll have 2 status effects and/or have one status effect and are trying to keep Pom pool small and have a chance of getting another status effect
Pflare Beowulf
Chiron hangover
Stuff like that
what counts as status effects? Does Doom count? What about Jolted or Rupture? What about Hunter's Mark or Exposed?
all of those are statuses
doom jolted rupture marked exposed hangover weak and chill
thats all of them'
no it isn't, there's also Hangover, Weak, and Chill. Those were pretty obviously status effects though
Did you not look at the next line of the message

oh I didn't see the last 3
why can't she be real :(
guys could i hypothetically quit mid run and come back?
or will the save like mess w me and make me restart
okay thanks just had to double check
i just battled out of asphodel for the first time!!!
Congrats! How do you like the verdant fields of Elysium?
so much better to look at
Wh-what do you mean you don't like searing orange?
so far my favorite maps are elysium, tartarus, and asphodel (in that order)
and the fact that iām not flame proof was stressful š
it gave āthe floor is lavaā
bro I hate the stupid laser attack hades has
could you hypothetically quit in a chamber and still go back to when u entered a chamber
a boss chanber
chamber
If you haven't taken dmg yet I believe
Use the pillars 
dang i have im cooked
or give dad a hug
i got to like i think the last chamber in elysium and theseus and the minotaur are beating me up
ugh i made it so far
iāve never made it that far before
same here
... I keep forgetting those exist
I don't see how that'll help
iām so sad bc the temple of styx was just beyond it apparently and thatās the final biome
im so unlucky im not getting furry jab
try it
if you stand next to him, the laser won't hit you
i want to try lifesteal build
seriously?
Like RIGHT next to him, but yes
max save
You crazy dawg
Althought my unmodded has like 2k or something
if I knew this yesterday I would've already beaten hades
damn
what
why
is this a bug?
Nope
is it an easter egg?
is it an intentional boss strategy?? If so, why are there pillars in the boss arena that the lasers don't pass through? There should just be empty space around Hades so you KNOW it's a safe zone
The devs did "fix" it in a certain setting
yes
does Asphodel have fewer rooms than any other region? I just started in it, went down a Chaos Gate, then to Eurydice, then the next room was a fountain chamber, and now I'm at the mini boss of the region before doing any actual rooms š
yes, aspho is the shortest
Speedrun time
having to play 21 and 22 is bad
I wish you could reroll Daedalus Hammers. Maybe it'd be busted but I don't care. It's so annoying when all 3 options are so sub par. And sometimes I have 2 hammer upgrades when I get to Styx, one that I like and one that I don't, then I get the Anvil
and it removes the one that I liked, leaving me with 3 bad Daedalus upgrades
thats a problem with most hammers sucking
I haven't gotten twin shot or flurry shot in a few days, and I've done numerous Bow runs
I saw that maybe once and I think there was a better option at the time
maybe explosive or perfect shot
unfortunately, Perfect Shot removes your ability to get Flurry Shot, right?
I'm doing a run right now with Point Blank and Ricochet
Ricochet works well because I have Curse of Agony, so I can spread doom to more enemies and apply my Privileged Status
This would be a fine gameplan if bow didnāt have such a big base damage number that itās very sad to lose the added +% from an additive strike boon (along with the typical synergies you get from those) 
Explosive is good if you do pseudo tech 
Sure you get a status curse, but you know what else applies a status curse (without any secondary boons). The much more useful Heartbreak strike, and Frost strike (which is like.. an option ig)
Itās also just more beneficial to have that additive damage on your first hit rather then proking pstatus for subsequent hits
Which is also why family favourites is favourite over pstatus given that bonus applies all the time
To every hit
Opportunity costs, bby!
Bow is great
It very much doesnāt
im coping
A bad worksman blames his tools (unless itās chaos shield. Or chiron.)
Iām gonna remove a line that maybe shouldnātāve been added and hope UnAnanas doesnāt smite me with the wrath of a thousand suns
Good you changed it no sword slander allowed 
The arthur in question
Arthur is fine kinda 
nuh uh
Dang I wasnāt even mentioning dash strikes yet š
Arthur is very okay
Has anyone codex modded arthur with flurry slash-
Wait nevermind
I think I know what to expect
any crashers?
?
It would prob just crash the game
I feel like it would just override arthur tbh
or that
Cuz itās just replacing the attack combo
unlike flurry shot Rama

Hmm
I feel like someone has to have done the 3 rail hammers together
spreadfire/flurry/delta
flurry doesn't do anything
bow sucks
bow sucks (I'm bad at it)
?
Yeah, Zeus sucks (i'm bad at it)
how can you be bad at zeus
Delta is coded really, really wierd
I know it changes the attack cooldown but I canāt imagine it just sidesteps all attack speed buffs
but is really really op
ā¦I mean I can imagine it doing that but I donāt want to
ye, delta busted
I think they just overwrite eachother
Hmm
Idk
Thatād seem a bit odd to me
Cuz nothing either of them do necessarily changes how the rail strike works
I shouldmve got Hades on steam while it was on sale 
Modding the game myself to check would be sweet
when I use Delta Chamber, I dash after every burst. It basically removes the delay between bursts completely if you do it right
Is your question "how can you be bad at zeus?" Or "how can you be bad at zeus?"
Very different meanings
zeus
is there a unique dialogue if you complete the run without mirrors?
So I'm wondering, are there any benefits besides bragging rights to beating the game many times in a row?
I have like 50+ successive wins now, and I am scared at putting the heat too high, in case I die, and have to beat the game 100+ times to get some sort of special achievment or something
streaks give you nothing, atleast not at that range
thats good to know! will help me push my risk with higher heat!
good luck
I am on the path to 100%ing the game hehe
1 steam achievment to go, then some more stuff to buy in the house, and the duo prophecy, and I'm pretty much done
gl
about to risk my streak of 73 lol
you can always just do it again if you wanted to
if i were to do heat 6 before heat 5 can i still get the bounty rewards from heat 5
so i can try stupid stuff if i want to
yep
so doing heat 6 counts as doing the highest heat youve gotten before
you could do 32 heat and it will only complete the next heat levels bounty
whats the usual 32heat ppl run
ok i ended lernie in about 35 seconds thats crazY
Is it just me or is it so hard to catch enough fish to fill out the book for the chaos fish??
Like, I have 135 hours +, still have multiple fish to catch in chaos land
its hard
If youāre struggling with finding a particular chaos fish, you can save scum fish⦠I believe
that does require you to have already found a chaos fishing spot though
ah gotcha, interesting
I'll see how many I have left when I've finished everything else in the game hehe
it does take some practice at first to get used to positioning the disc properly or having it 'chase' after you, etc
i thought he was referring to the god
i assumed the aspect
@warm swallow
I KILLED HADES
Crap! I've been made!
Congrats!
What was the weapon/aspect?
normal fists
I upgraded it once by accident
it dodged like 5 of his punishing sweeps
I didn't even use a death defiance
wow
also someone told me that I am gonna have a way to get so much more titan blood after hades defeat
I only got 1
Yeah you only get 1 from a singular Hades kill 
Youāll find out when you get back to the House of Hades
The game pretty much tells you the deal as soon as you try to head back into a run
how do i stop losing all my death defiances to the heroes
yea I see it
you missed the sale
get the bull first
hes not the problem
hes one of the heroes
Phase 1 theseaus has very simple attacks, wait it out after killing the bull, in phase 2, it's just that but harder, but just pray to god it's not demeter, your are screwed there
Bait Asterius to the other side of the arena, and deal with him behind the pillars so that Theseus has a super hard time aiming at you. Then you can take Asterius down where Theseus canāt help him, and move on to Theseus
also get strong drink from dionysus, it's really good
good builds in general make bosses much much easier
increased damage and full heal from the fountains
Breaking both Heroes into independent fights should take a lot of stress off your head so you can dodge better
⦠eh
if you have twice the dps then you fight them for half the duration making them x2 times easier
Look... full heal is full heal
Strong drink is a ~nice pick up if dionysus ended up in your pool by chance or if heās in your build as a focal point, but itās nothing to go out of your way for
The more important thing is to get a functional build together then start reaching for those other things that are nice to have
how do I get the god sticker things next to my keepsakes?
You need to max out their relationship
how many times do I have to give nectar to max out the realationship?
ares and dionysus
Once you hit the max with nectar, each npc has something you need to do to get their favour, which will allow you to gift them ambrosia
and fully max them out
whats the easiest one for the pact of punishment?
I think most npcās are 7 nectars iirc. Most npcās are also just one ambrosia
Typically extreme measures 1 or tight deadline 1
neither of them nerf your entire playthrough, extreme measures just mixes up the Furies fight and Tight Deadline 1 is easily surpassable with just a decent build
A few things about tight deadline, any left over time carries over to the next area, and when the timer hits 0 you start taking 5 damage a second, so you can still eek out a win if things go really really wrong
I am a fist player, does that change anything?
Not really
The only pact that really varies by weapon is damage control
faster weapons like fists and rail will take it earlier since they deal with it better, but itās never really a great idea to take it
letting every enemy survive 1-2 hit longer is just going to drag out your game, and give all enemies more chances to hit you
Same thing goes with calesthenics program
I attack like 7 times a second I guess it's fine
Even then, itās really something thatās just
Not worth it to take at this low heat when you have easier options
only during bosses
The rarity doesnāt really change my opinion either
Most of the time, the function of a boon matters over rarity
I mean unless its my main attack boon, then iād reconsider if itās common
if I incease heat do I increase the amount of darkness I get? It would give a good reason to do higher heats other than "More Blood"
No. Itās just a flex beyond blood gems and ambrosia
damn
Completing 40, 50, 64 heat doesnāt give any different reward then 0
Although
It is fun to challenge yourself
what are the requirements for ME
Ares strike/special and athena strike/special
so thats the reason why I haven't gotten ME
Dash sadly is not a prereq
athena special is really just there for the ride for merciful end builds
You need it but you wonāt be using it for your deflects, thatās divine dashās job
Although it is good extra damage on the weapons that regularly use their special in dps rotations, like sword, fists, zeus shield, and zag rail
Do you have your cast open rn
yes
thatād be the problem
also I am in the temple of styx :/
The game always tries to give you a core if you have any open. But if you have your cast and dash open, the game will pick between the two
and then roll all the boons regularly for the second and third boons
So if it rolls a cast youāre essentially riding on the game rolling dash for either of the 2 other options
Fillling that cast with another godās cast should help if you can
If you can do that prior to picking up another athena boon (if there even is another athena boon)
so i used some mods and beat the game in 13 minutes
You should be able to do that pretty easily with like < a week of intentional practice and a good build
i just went into notepad and made sprint infinate lol and made it broken on accident
no i altered the game files where i can sprint infinatly all the time lol
OH
I mean yes given most weapons in the game prefer to dash strike for their damage
That should be incredibly good
did they not test posiedin dash one of my fav abilitys
poseiden and aphrodite and dementor 3 best combos
what do you use diamons for i got 3 of them
They did. Itās just strong
I donāt really see the synergy here tbh
The only real thing going on is Sweet Nectar for double poms on tdash
true
Common doom:(.
I got alot of ares
the mvp was actually the call
it did so much damage
oh my, the aspect of gilgamesh changes the normal attack
damn
congrats you got the best boon in the game
that was literally a hour ago
you live too quickly
how good is gilgamesh?
im pretty sure its like considered one of the worst
all the hidden aspects do that
I just realized it gave me 4 DASHES?
Shorter dashes, slower dash strikes and longer dash cooldown make it a way less safe and effective aspect of fists
so I wasted 3 titan blood
eh
not really
you can always get more titan blood
and even though it's less effective in some cases doesn't mean you should write it off completely
even if x is better than y
you should still experiment and play around like
you can have fun with stuff that isn't meta
so currently using gilgamesh, it's really fun purely because of the 4 dashes
OH GOD I AM GETTING JUMPED BY THE FURIES
Gilgamesh can be fun unlike Chaos, so that's something
What is the most fun hidden aspect
Thats rather subjective
in your opinion
Beo
Beowulf, Shield hidden aspect
Whenever I play with Guan Yu or Explosive Launcher I feel like Kalista from League of Legends
Hopping/dashing around, chucking spears
how good is arthur?
Pretty average. There's much worse, and there's much better
lmao hades has dialogue for dying to ||charon||
like the aspect or character?
There is no aspect of Charon
Chiron with an "i"
theres a differnce between the 2?
Dunno. You tell me, Khiatic 
Charon is the boatman, Chiron is a centaur
OHHHHHHHHHHH
Also he was the teacher of Achilles
Just out of curiosity, do you play with the sound off?
it's on like half
I watch youtube while playing sometimes
Ah, gotcha. Makes sense
why would that matter?
I was wondering if you hadn't heard the characters pronouncing "Charon" and "Chiron"
They get confused commonly enough that I'm curious about how it happens
is there a way to see what boon/ability did how much damage in a run?
Thereās a mod for that
Unsure where to get it

