#h1-discussion

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cunning niche
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30% global is nice

rustic vale
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Would be based

old bluff
cunning niche
old bluff
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You can!

cunning niche
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yay!

mint coral
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Cuz hermes is mean

cunning niche
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RD so silly

stiff obsidian
rustic vale
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may I introduce you to Rush Delivery with an absurd number of Ichors

old bluff
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Routed anyone?

mint coral
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Insert the eris route

cunning niche
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that video was insane im still not going to play erios ever 😼

stiff obsidian
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!ban

old bluff
mint coral
stiff obsidian
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eris lowkey ruined h1 for me

cunning niche
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i played eris with hangover once

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and i think i did 32h with the real zeus setup

old bluff
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Play with Zeus, it's much nicer

mint coral
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Eris is so comfy

cunning niche
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to cheese it

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i js dont like the rail idk

old bluff
cunning niche
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but eris is very versatile so maybe ill find smth ill like on it later

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is poseidon attack good. on anything

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at all

mint coral
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Meme run with lucifer

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Or if you are retrash is good

old bluff
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In some super cursed timeline, Dio Beo

cunning niche
mint coral
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if you want ea just grab pos special

stiff obsidian
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Time to create some 40 heat em4 savestates

rustic vale
cunning niche
stiff obsidian
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I mean

mint coral
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Eh

stiff obsidian
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2nd to aphro

rustic vale
old bluff
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It's pretty meh

stiff obsidian
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And the lnockback hurts more than it helps

cunning niche
mint coral
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In theory yeah but I don't wanna use it

old bluff
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Arty and Aphro are better, but it's fine ig

stiff obsidian
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But I'm a big fan of pos special on Chiron

cunning niche
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that does sound fun

mint coral
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Sgg should do a last patch and it just removes the internal cooldown

old bluff
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Ah yes, Sea Storm Chiron, the only Chiron build that actually does damage

mint coral
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It wouldn't save chiron but it'd be funny

stiff obsidian
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Even without sea storm

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Pos special + the t2 (img I actually forgot the name) do good dmg

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What's the name

old bluff
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Hydro might?

mint coral
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Beaver or the boss dmg one

stiff obsidian
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The status

old bluff
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Shoals

mint coral
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Shoals

stiff obsidian
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Yes

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My beloved

mint coral
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Shoals my beloved

stiff obsidian
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How could I forget 😭😭

old bluff
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Shoals kinda cracked ngl

cunning niche
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shoals is so fun

mint coral
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Is prob my fav curse ngl

cunning niche
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they shouldve kept it for hades 2

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but they replaced it with the disgrace

old bluff
cunning niche
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jolted is so cool too omg

mint coral
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Jolted is super good

stiff obsidian
mint coral
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But there's something funny about enemies walking and eventually dying

stiff obsidian
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But the damn thing is more elusive than epic rd

cunning niche
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why is jolted running away form you

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you mustve done smth to jolted

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oo hunters mark was rly good to]

mint coral
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Was that an ap2 moment

rustic vale
mint coral
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Also real

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Darkness on its own is stinky tho

rustic vale
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You can’t just have one or the toher

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It’s both

mint coral
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Darkness as in the move lmao

cunning niche
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dankness oop i guess ill die to timer now

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i had so much pain with the timer in this game

stiff obsidian
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i love how speedrunning changes the perspective on a game

mint coral
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One of angel's 64h attempts died like that

cunning niche
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i dont know why

stiff obsidian
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i rmeember that

cunning niche
old bluff
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A lot

cunning niche
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unmodded unseeded

stiff obsidian
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many many clears

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oh

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2

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iirc

rustic vale
cunning niche
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damn thats quite impressive

rustic vale
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They sgould’ve never added it

old bluff
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With mod, prob around 50?

stiff obsidian
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with 90% of those from mysterra right

cunning niche
rustic vale
cunning niche
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how man yaspects have done it

rustic vale
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or rather less rng

old bluff
rustic vale
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Gilga 64 when?

mint coral
rustic vale
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Get cherry on the case

old bluff
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Zeus, Rama, Guan Yu and Eris

rustic vale
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Mysterra Icy flare 64 when?

old bluff
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They did 60, but Beo gets hard walled at 62 due to RI3

stiff obsidian
old bluff
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Playad got that a while ago

stiff obsidian
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hypermodded?

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or regular

old bluff
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no

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reg

rustic vale
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No hesti? šŸ˜”

stiff obsidian
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wtf

old bluff
stiff obsidian
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this is unreal

cunning niche
stiff obsidian
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this guy is unreal

old bluff
cunning niche
old bluff
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not high roll, it's worse than epic jolted

cunning niche
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oh what 😭

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ok how does splitting bolt work ive always been so confused by it

old bluff
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it works how you think it would, it adds an extra lightning effect to every hit

mint coral
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Strike with zeus stuff and you get an extra bolt/projectile

rustic vale
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spawns a 40 damage projectile on the enemy shooting towards another enemy

old bluff
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Jolted is just a god tier boon

cunning niche
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bc it doesnt feel as strong as it should

mint coral
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Probably but I don't think any of the usual zeus weapons would run into it

rustic vale
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tbh it doesn’t feel like it’s got a .15s cooldown, maybe smthig higher

cunning niche
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hm

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weird boon

old bluff
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I've gotten it like twice so idk

cunning niche
mint coral
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140 iirc?

old bluff
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Yes, but it scales super well with poms

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120

rustic vale
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Jolted varies

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90-120 I believe

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eh

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That sounds wrong

cunning niche
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no way an epic jolted can be 90 lol

mint coral
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108-120

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Was just checking lmfa9

rustic vale
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108-120 makes more sensep

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Cuz it’d be 60* 1.8-2.0

mint coral
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Also god h1 icons are so nice

cunning niche
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the little arm snap for the jolted icon

rustic vale
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as opposed to

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is

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are they bad in H2 tizomg

mint coral
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They are baby sized

cunning niche
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theyre also incomprehensible

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try to tell aphrodite boons apart by only the icon

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impossible

cunning niche
# rustic vale How incomprehensible

these are aphrodite boonshttps://media.discordapp.net/attachments/716773442958917753/1261161745280663704/image.png?ex=6691f3e7&is=6690a267&hm=922e92cbc262264f35ebd8d6910306921a8cff59ab7f54bf1639329194685bb4&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1386&height=408

rustic vale
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oh

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bleh

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I could certainly get them

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but

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It’d take some time

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Oh speaking of getting

cunning niche
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theyre also tiny in game

rustic vale
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I still need to get Hades II

stiff obsidian
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also spoilers

rustic vale
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I’m actually so dismayed that my favourite afro boon isn’t in the game

stiff obsidian
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sweet surrender is there

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wdym

rustic vale
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Dying Lament

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Ain’t there

stiff obsidian
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dw about that

rustic vale
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At least broken resolve is there

cunning niche
rustic vale
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Real

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I was about to say ā€œcredit: ā€œ but

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Absolutely forgot who I took it from

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šŸ˜”

latent moon
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not sure if i'm misremembering tho

old bluff
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ye, dio beo beat it

latent moon
stiff obsidian
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but eris cooler

latent moon
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still by vorime tho lmao

latent moon
silent dust
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can you get 100% damage resistance with godmode if you die enough

silent dust
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are there other ways to get titan blood after getting them all weapons besides the shop in area 4

jagged hamlet
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Fishing. Prophecies.

slate agate
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i got 3 pomes in styx shop i think the game wants me to upgrade stuff

slim turret
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I got my first 2 clears today, one on heat 2. Both under 30 attempts

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I am talking about one lmao

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Anyways very glad I cleared w just one defiance the first time because now with 3 it feels so much easier, even w dookie builds

tepid light
unreal mason
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I dislike this bot with a burning hatred, I hope it achieves sentience so it can feel incredibly depressed about its existence.

fervent radish
mystic lark
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Boiling blood and abyssal blood effects do not stack if there is more than one cast in the foe, right? Or am I trippin?

cunning niche
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ligma balls

mystic lark
fervent radish
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Show me who said that lmao

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Reddit is generally very wrong about most things hades related

latent moon
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Their build advice is concerning and they're generally pretty wrong about game mechanics a lot of the time

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There are a handful of people who know what they're talking about but the majority don't

fervent radish
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Lmao

latent moon
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Yeah idk man lmao

fervent radish
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Abyssal blood is 30% damage and move speed reduction. Why would 90% damage and move speed reduction be balanced

latent moon
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I would personally just not be downvoted tbh

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I think my most "controversial" thing I said on reddit was the fact that I think every player can clear 32 heat and get a sub 10 if they wanted to

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Someone also said I over valued Achilles spear and hades spear is a lot better lmao

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So like

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Don't listen to reddit

fervent radish
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Yeah

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Dunning Kruger very strong there

mystic lark
latent moon
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Lmao fair

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All my karma or whatever is from the hades subreddit tho

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Also some guy gave me an award for linking the hestia guide from like

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Nearly a year ago??

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And this happened like a couple days ago or something

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So idk what happened there lmao

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I used to be active ish on the subreddit before h2 dropped

mint coral
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Found the thread and some are saying that dad's boiling blood stack too

mystic lark
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Will this bot ever stop?

mint coral
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Prob when H2 1.0 releases zaglol

old bluff
latent moon
jagged hamlet
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I feel I benefitted from the ye olde Chthonic Conversations series on the subreddit when I was very new, but the average quality nowadays is quite wild

simple inlet
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I got ME

stiff obsidian
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i got me too

tepid light
stiff obsidian
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oh

simple inlet
jagged hamlet
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Me three!

simple inlet
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yall wanna see my current build

tepid light
simple inlet
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oh wait I can't send pics

tepid light
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there's a way, you just have to mess around with the link a bit

stiff obsidian
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copy the media link and share it here

simple inlet
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how do I do that?

old bluff
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DM a bot with the image and then right click and copy image link

tepid light
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I can't tell what your attack boon is

twin thistle
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Common doom residentzag

simple inlet
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I got deadly reversal too

simple inlet
tepid light
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what aspect/weapon

simple inlet
tepid light
simple inlet
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so am I cooking?

tepid light
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athena special, artemis cast, athena dash?

simple inlet
twin thistle
simple inlet
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look it's fun ok

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I didn't even beat hades yet

jagged hamlet
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No fun allowed! zagmad

twin thistle
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Chiron residentzag

tepid light
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doesn't look too bad to me honestly

ares attack is fine on fists because it's big flat damage, though having dire misfortune would be nice

athena dash is always good

twin thistle
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They have ME so dire doesnt do a whole lot they want impending and poms bouldy

simple inlet
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my main goal is to get inpending doom

tepid light
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bronze skin isn't fantastic but it's not the worst thing either

tepid light
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which hermes boon is that

simple inlet
tepid light
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nice, hyper sprint is good times

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it's not an ideal build but i think it's pretty solid

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at the very very least, it's a good foundation for something quite effective

raw herald
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Only 50 base damage doom hurts it a lot

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If you get 2 poms you’re doubling your doom base damage

simple inlet
tepid light
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where are you now, rarity dismissers

twin thistle
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It does for doom bouldy

raw herald
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Rarity def does for doom

tepid light
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"rarity doesn't matter except when it does"

raw herald
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It’s more like

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Don’t roll for rarity but are you really keeping common doom chamber 1

twin thistle
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Time to get rush deliv from styx hermes

tepid light
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I'm being sarcastic, I've never really agreed with the "rarity doesn't matter" belief

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It implies that rarity never makes a difference when it definitely does

simple inlet
tepid light
simple inlet
tepid light
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ohh yeah that's uhh

not great

you want to get rare crop as early as possible so that you can ensure it affects the boon you want

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rather than just landing on a boon you have little use for

jagged hamlet
jagged hamlet
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Oops I meant Asphodel. Thanks

simple inlet
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HADES HAS A SECOND PHASE?

twin thistle
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Rip

simple inlet
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I was so close bro

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he has a sliver of health

stiff obsidian
simple inlet
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probably like 5 percent

lethal sinew
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Can you gift the same god more than 1 nectar on the same run? Or just the first time you see them?

jagged hamlet
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Once per run

tepid light
vocal crypt
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hey guys I have well over 100 hours in Hades and it's only just now hitting me that I kinda suck? I've been playing the Switch version, which has auto aim. The second I turn auto aim off, I stop being as good as I thought I was. Is the PC version the "true experience" that I've been depriving myself of?

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cool, this is about Hades

tepid light
tepid light
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if you're having fun and getting results, who cares exactly what platform you're playing on

raw herald
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I play with auto aim on and I have > 1000 hours

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Vast majority of the speedrun and high heat community use it I’d say

vocal crypt
raw herald
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Yeah

twin thistle
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Yeah you should just use auto aim for gamepad

fervent radish
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Kbm

unreal mason
crystal python
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has anyone thought that the Hades intro music reminds you of Assassin’s Creed?

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at least the start

vocal crypt
fervent radish
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Keyboard and mouse

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You might want auto aim on in more scenarios if you’re using a controller

vocal crypt
vocal crypt
stiff obsidian
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you turn off autoaim?

fervent radish
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Like I aim with my mouse

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Yeah

stiff obsidian
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usually people turn off aim at cursor

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isnt rail what people use the autoaim for th most?

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thats literally what makes it one of the easiest weaps

fervent radish
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No I use auto aim for rail

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And aim at cursor for everything else

stiff obsidian
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thats not autoaim iirc

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theres a separate toggle for autoaim

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that everyone uses by default afaik

fervent radish
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Alr

stiff obsidian
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idk

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idk anything

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ugh i hate myself

fervent radish
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Dw about it

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All I mean to say is that I let the computer aim when I’m playing rail and manually aim when I’m playing everything else

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I realize that auto aim is actually called aim assist

stiff obsidian
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no like

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i just

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slirdfnvdi;faoivjna[eorijsdlfzkjvxz

crystal python
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just made the biggest mistake ever

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got the chaos realm for the first time and chose the pauper’s one. forgot i can’t get coin and passed on a daedalus hammer

vocal crypt
stiff obsidian
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im ngl he got u there

crystal python
stiff obsidian
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whats cool

crystal python
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dk

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oo i found another chaos room. how common r those?

vocal crypt
old bluff
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5% iirc

crystal python
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ohh okay

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i’m thinking of picking up abyssal lunge but omg if i step on a trap im SEARED

stiff obsidian
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you can expect to see 1/2/3 of those per run

crystal python
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i don’t really step on traps though

crystal python
old bluff
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Max is whatever 34/7 is

crystal python
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34/7?

old bluff
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with no ixion

old bluff
stiff obsidian
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i think first chamber has better chaos odds ? or am i tripping

crystal python
old bluff
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maybe?

crystal python
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bro i’m cooked i’m not getting thru these chambers

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on my 10th run and idek what the furthest i’ve made it was

latent moon
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Well

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There's free rooms before biome boss

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And the midrooms

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And bosses themselves

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So like 25?

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Assuming you get all combats

old bluff
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and 2 sack

latent moon
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Well that doesn't matter for chaos

old bluff
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oh yeah

crystal python
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oh okay

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i just started yesterday so i still got no clue what i’m doing i’m just going

latent moon
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3 natural chaos in a run is kinda wild tho

old bluff
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I've had 4

crystal python
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but i have noticed i’m actually getting better

old bluff
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once

latent moon
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Oh yeah 4 is doable bc you start with 1

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3 is still wild tho lmao

crystal python
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i finally beat meg!!

fervent radish
stiff obsidian
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cool

fervent radish
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what's demeter boon

stiff obsidian
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cool?

fervent radish
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demeter boon

subtle whale
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"Darkness. Darkness. Darkness"
stfu Hades

fervent radish
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-Edward trying to sheet

old bluff
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I've lost like 4 to this zagcry

fervent radish
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other stuff is better

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it's also kinda weird to use

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doesn't do a whole lot of damage

jagged hamlet
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It slows enemies, but its damage is meh

rustic vale
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It’s also Edward’s list and not mine, I kinda like dem aid tbh

stiff obsidian
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dems aid imo is the worst in the game

cunning niche
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isnt ares aid a dps loss 99% of the time

stiff obsidian
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it doesnt do anything other than add chill

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atleast ares aid gives u iframes

cunning niche
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all calls give iframes no?

fervent radish
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ares gives straight up invincibility

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all calls give iframes yeah

cunning niche
stiff obsidian
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no like, ur invincibile for the duration of it

rustic vale
stiff obsidian
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its trash for heat too

old bluff
fervent radish
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dio is best for heat

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some weirdos might like zeus better idk

old bluff
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Zeus is way better for speed

fervent radish
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i meant heat lmao mb

old bluff
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oh

fervent radish
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brain moment

old bluff
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yeah, dio call kinda slaps for heat

rustic vale
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I’d most often rather them

old bluff
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Pos and Athena are quite good for heat too

stiff obsidian
fervent radish
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but it also melts everything

rustic vale
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but sometimes you get forced into an awkward choice between like 2 dem cores and dem aid and I’d honestly take that over aphro aid, arte aid, and ares aid.

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And I do enjoy when I have it

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It’s not the best but

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It’s certainly there

fervent radish
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and zeus makes everything around you cluttered

old bluff
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Dem cores are fine to take most of the time

rustic vale
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If I’m choosing between meme beams, a core I need for my build, and dem aid

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I’m taking dem aid

stiff obsidian
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that doesnt make dem aid good

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thats just because dem sucks too

rustic vale
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Real

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But I’m not popping dem aid and being like ā€œeghhā€

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Like I would with arte and ares

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It’s not stellar but it’s ok.

twin thistle
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bouldy i dont like dem aid because it makes dad skulls stick in the same place so i eat them instead of them going off into nowhere

simple inlet
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why is there a tiny vermin boss fight???

old bluff
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It does a lot of damage for free

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like, a LOT of damage

rustic vale
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It’s hard to tell without a dps meter mod

stiff obsidian
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twice as much as your attack would do i think

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depending on rarity and poms

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and the enemy ofc

stiff obsidian
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wat

rustic vale
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purple is 109-120

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108

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+pomp

old bluff
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Yeah, I used Zyru's mod, which lets you see how much damage a boon did during the run, on Eris and Jolted did like 40k while attack did about 15k

rustic vale
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not much needed for huge damage

stiff obsidian
stiff obsidian
rustic vale
stiff obsidian
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šŸ™‚

vocal crypt
old bluff
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I hate Tony

vocal crypt
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Tony?

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is that King Vermin's name?

jagged hamlet
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Apparently a big Hades speed runner mistyped "Tiny" as "Tony", and the rest is history

old bluff
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Yes, Cgull mistyped it as tony vermin

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So now everbody calls him Tony, and the big rat is Antony

rustic vale
vocal crypt
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can you give infinite nectar to Bouldy? I've probably given him like 10 but my affinity with him isn't maxed out I guess

old bluff
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Yes

vocal crypt
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it's like I keep trying and trying to give Bouldy more nectar, but I never get any closer to maxing out my friendship with him

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it's like I'm pushing a rock up a hill, but every time I think I'm getting closer to the top, there's just more hill

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we should make a word for stuff like that

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how about "Bouldian"?

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"a Bouldian task: one which seems impossible and repetitive"

stiff obsidian
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we should make a meme out of that

vocal crypt
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"we can make a religion out of this"

neon yew
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Is it possible for Asterius to spawn as a mini boss if you've never met Theseus before, or will it always be the giant butterfly ball?

jagged hamlet
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Sounds like a question for @lavish sorrel

fervent radish
neon yew
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Im guessing the dialogue starts with Zag asking "Erm, which are you?"

vocal crypt
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if you have a Chaos effect that makes you take damage when you attack/special/cast and you use it in Erebus, do you fail? Or do you only fail when you take damage from the enemies in Erebus?

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I'm not gonna test it for obvious reasons

stiff obsidian
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you dont fail

vocal crypt
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hey guys I just lost a Death Defiance to something that I can't even see. I took a replay of it and have watched it numerous times and I still can't tell what hit me. Is there somewhere I can send the clip and have someone help me figure out what happened?

latent moon
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You can send it here

vocal crypt
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no I can't

vocal crypt
latent moon
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Use the video link

vocal crypt
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link?? You want me to post it on yt? It's on my phone

stiff obsidian
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right click on it on discord

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and copy the link

vocal crypt
vocal crypt
stiff obsidian
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after sending it somewhwere on discord

vocal crypt
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whatever I figured it out

twin thistle
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Pit moment

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Pot

vocal crypt
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the stupid freaking pot. I was on the perimeter

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that killed my run

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sorry, I killed my run, by walking into a stupid pot

stiff obsidian
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the pot is stupid

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why is it sstanding there? is it stupid??

vocal crypt
vocal crypt
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what's the best cast for aspect of Hera?

stiff obsidian
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crush shot

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aphrodite

vocal crypt
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just for damage?

stiff obsidian
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wdym

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crush shot has the highest damage yes

vocal crypt
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I mean, if your goal is to spread Weak, you'd go Heartbreak Flourish

stiff obsidian
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i think trippy shot from dio is worth a mention but thats a whole other thing

stiff obsidian
vocal crypt
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Yeah Trippy Shot does more damage, right?

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and stuns, and creates a zone that you can get boons for that make it give you damage reduction or lightning bolts

stiff obsidian
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i dont really know the numbers actually but trippy is usually run with stygian soul bc waiting for the cast to pop back up with infernal is just impractical

jagged hamlet
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Synergies are nice, but damage is king

vocal crypt
#

awesome, I use Stygian Soul anyway

stiff obsidian
#

so you end up having to rely on lucky chaos boons giving you extra casts

vocal crypt
#

I can just get chaos casts

stiff obsidian
#

ok gl

vocal crypt
#

or Fully Loaded

stiff obsidian
#

yeah haha gl with that

#

lmao

vocal crypt
#

why lmao?

stiff obsidian
#

lets just say it isnt the easiest thing in the world to get

vocal crypt
#

I try to get it almost every run. Support Fire and Pressure Points.

stiff obsidian
#

support fire my beloved

jagged hamlet
#

Support Fire my precious

vocal crypt
#

I would go exit wounds, but that doesn't work with Festive Fog

#

and I use that one Mirror upgrade that increases my chances for duos and legendaries

twin thistle
#

You cant get exit wounds with stygian to begin with

vocal crypt
twin thistle
#

Okay maybe im trolling

vocal crypt
# twin thistle ~~Okay maybe im trolling~~

if anything, it's BETTER, because if you have only 2 casts and Auto Reload, you can stack up like 10 casts on bosses. It's like giving Doom to your cast. Exit Wounds is probably best on Aspect of Poseidon though

stiff obsidian
#

exit wounds is overrrated

tepid light
#

If I'm playing something like Poseidon or Hera, I love Exit Wounds

#

Otherwise it's very mediocre

lavish sorrel
# neon yew Is it possible for Asterius to spawn as a mini boss if you've never met Theseus ...

Yes, and dialogue is different in that case:
"You come from the bowels of hell. This is not your place."
"Agreed on both counts! Just passing through, so if you'll excuse me..."
"I will not. <snort> The Champion of Elysium would never back down from such a contest. Neither will I."
"Wait, you're not the Champion of Elysium...? You're the Bull of Minos! I can't imagine who's even stronger than you. Is it Heracles? Tell me it's Heracles."
"I will not. <snort> You talk too much, short one. Come get destroyed."

vocal crypt
#

very fast Vermin kill

#

Tony never stood a chance against my 8 cast Hera build

#

with Exit Wounds

stiff obsidian
#

someone pull up the roadkill clip

vocal crypt
#

I'm sorry the what?

tepid light
#

the tiny vermin being vulnerable to knockbacks like regular enemies is such a blessing

#

imagine if he was knockback immune

stiff obsidian
#

from poseidon?

tepid light
#

mostly poseidon, yes

stiff obsidian
#

i dont see how being knockback immune makes much of a difference tho

vocal crypt
#

imo knocking foes away kinda sucks unless you're playing a ranged weapon

tepid light
tepid light
#

or tried poseidon dash

vocal crypt
#

yes?

stiff obsidian
tepid light
stiff obsidian
#

fair

vocal crypt
#

I'm saying Tidal Dash is better on Coronacht than Malphon

stiff obsidian
#

to be completely honest

stiff obsidian
#

since i play modded i dont face tony at all

#

lmao

tepid light
vocal crypt
#

how does aspect of Zeus benefit from poseidon?

tepid light
tepid light
vocal crypt
#

huh, I didn't think of that. I've been using Drunken Flourish or Lightning Flourish with Aspect of Zeus

tepid light
#

lightning flourish is good on aspect of zeus as well but i'd strongly recommend playing around with different specials

#

you might discover something remarkably effective

lavish sorrel
#

Admittedly, poseidon special on zeus shield is a rather niche strategy. There's little reason to play that over just regular zeus² other than discovering what else can work

tepid light
lavish sorrel
#

I didn't mean to have that sound as though I was dunking on it

stiff obsidian
#

pos special is detrimental for zeus

lavish sorrel
#

It's a really funny strategy

vocal crypt
#

I've only cleared like 7 Heat with it, whereas all my other weapons are past 10 heat

tepid light
#

it takes some piloting, but the results can be very entertaining

stiff obsidian
#

Okay

tepid light
vocal crypt
tepid light
unreal mason
#

As a reasonably experienced zeus player I can say that poseidon on special is ass (or poseidon boons in general for zeus shield), it can do 64 as Mysterra/Bai proved but for normal human beings you should probably stick to something like aphro/zeus on special if your intention is to complete high heat efficiently.

lavish sorrel
young remnant
#

does anyone actually like the rail

lavish sorrel
tepid light
#

It does need a few additional poseidon boons to get rolling I admit, but it's very entertaining once it does

tepid light
#

So yes, I'd say a lot of people actually like it

simple inlet
#

How do I unlock the secret aspects for my weapons

tepid light
# rustic vale Crazy

Then again given my heat preferences I perhaps shouldn't be surprised that my perspective is very different from other peoples'

tepid light
simple inlet
tepid light
#

And yeah, there's a guide

simple inlet
#

he's the only one at the house of hades who has a weapon aspect, would tell us in the story, and sometimes not there?

tepid light
#

As I said, some NPC's are not ever in the House of Hades

simple inlet
#

well I can't really get any titan blood because i have already gotten all ambrosia and titan blood with all my weapons

mint coral
#

I assume you haven't escaped yet?

simple inlet
#

got really close with a ME build, but I died to that stupid laser attack at the last phase

#

wait does Hades have a third phase?

mint coral
#

Nah

simple inlet
#

ok good

#

if he did have a third phase I would punch my wall

tepid light
fervent radish
#

poseidon in pool is often a reset just bc i don't want to play with him on attack or dash

simple inlet
#

what is the best fist aspect?

fervent radish
#

demeter

simple inlet
#

igght

vocal crypt
#

is there anything I can dump my extra Titan Blood into? Occasionally the Wretched Broker has something to trade my Titan Blood for, but I collect titan blood at a faster rate than I can spend it

#

already have Stygian theme by the way

mint coral
#

If you already maxed all aspects then is mostly trades

#

And some ranks use blood iirc?

vocal crypt
#

Privileged Status of Family Favorite? I've been going FF basically my entire time playing the game because I haven't exactly figured out what kind of build would be best with PS

fervent radish
#

PS is kinda useful in niche circumstances where you know you’ll have 2 status effects and/or have one status effect and are trying to keep Pom pool small and have a chance of getting another status effect

#

Pflare Beowulf

#

Chiron hangover

#

Stuff like that

vocal crypt
#

what counts as status effects? Does Doom count? What about Jolted or Rupture? What about Hunter's Mark or Exposed?

cunning niche
#

doom jolted rupture marked exposed hangover weak and chill

#

thats all of them'

vocal crypt
fervent radish
#

Did you not look at the next line of the message

mint coral
vocal crypt
vocal crypt
crystal python
#

guys could i hypothetically quit mid run and come back?

#

or will the save like mess w me and make me restart

mint coral
#

If you press quit it should save

#

Give up reverts the save pre run

crystal python
#

i just battled out of asphodel for the first time!!!

jagged hamlet
#

Congrats! How do you like the verdant fields of Elysium?

crystal python
jagged hamlet
#

Wh-what do you mean you don't like searing orange?

crystal python
#

so far my favorite maps are elysium, tartarus, and asphodel (in that order)

crystal python
#

it gave ā€œthe floor is lavaā€

simple inlet
#

bro I hate the stupid laser attack hades has

crystal python
#

a boss chanber

#

chamber

mint coral
#

If you haven't taken dmg yet I believe

mint coral
crystal python
old bluff
#

or give dad a hug

crystal python
#

i got to like i think the last chamber in elysium and theseus and the minotaur are beating me up

#

ugh i made it so far

#

i’ve never made it that far before

simple inlet
simple inlet
crystal python
# brave shore same here

i’m so sad bc the temple of styx was just beyond it apparently and that’s the final biome

brave shore
#

im so unlucky im not getting furry jab

cunning niche
old bluff
brave shore
#

i want to try lifesteal build

simple inlet
old bluff
#

Like RIGHT next to him, but yes

proper shore
#

Oh my god

#

HOW DO YOU HAVE 385 -

#

NECTAR?

old bluff
#

max save

proper shore
#

You crazy dawg

old bluff
#

Althought my unmodded has like 2k or something

simple inlet
#

damn

twin thistle
#

Nope

vocal crypt
#

is it an easter egg?

#

is it an intentional boss strategy?? If so, why are there pillars in the boss arena that the lasers don't pass through? There should just be empty space around Hades so you KNOW it's a safe zone

mint coral
#

The devs did "fix" it in a certain setting

cunning niche
vocal crypt
#

does Asphodel have fewer rooms than any other region? I just started in it, went down a Chaos Gate, then to Eurydice, then the next room was a fountain chamber, and now I'm at the mini boss of the region before doing any actual rooms 😭

old bluff
#

yes, aspho is the shortest

old bluff
#

having to play 21 and 22 is bad

vocal crypt
#

I wish you could reroll Daedalus Hammers. Maybe it'd be busted but I don't care. It's so annoying when all 3 options are so sub par. And sometimes I have 2 hammer upgrades when I get to Styx, one that I like and one that I don't, then I get the Anvil

and it removes the one that I liked, leaving me with 3 bad Daedalus upgrades

stiff obsidian
#

thats a problem with most hammers sucking

vocal crypt
#

I haven't gotten twin shot or flurry shot in a few days, and I've done numerous Bow runs

stiff obsidian
#

triple is nice too

#

if you hug the enemy all 3 arrows will hit them

vocal crypt
#

I saw that maybe once and I think there was a better option at the time

#

maybe explosive or perfect shot

stiff obsidian
#

yeah perfect shot is one of the better hammers too

#

bow has a lot of options

vocal crypt
#

unfortunately, Perfect Shot removes your ability to get Flurry Shot, right?

stiff obsidian
#

but perfect shot is more of a 2nd hammer to twin or tripple

#

yes

vocal crypt
#

I'm doing a run right now with Point Blank and Ricochet

#

Ricochet works well because I have Curse of Agony, so I can spread doom to more enemies and apply my Privileged Status

stiff obsidian
#

ares attack on bow dread

#

you ideally want a % on your attack

rustic vale
twin thistle
#

Explosive is good if you do pseudo tech bouldy

rustic vale
#

Sure you get a status curse, but you know what else applies a status curse (without any secondary boons). The much more useful Heartbreak strike, and Frost strike (which is like.. an option ig)

#

It’s also just more beneficial to have that additive damage on your first hit rather then proking pstatus for subsequent hits

#

Which is also why family favourites is favourite over pstatus given that bonus applies all the time

#

To every hit

jagged hamlet
#

Opportunity costs, bby!

mint zenith
#

1 away from 10 win streak :(

#

bow sucks

old bluff
#

Bow is great

rustic vale
rustic vale
#

A bad worksman blames his tools (unless it’s chaos shield. Or chiron.)

#

I’m gonna remove a line that maybe shouldn’t’ve been added and hope UnAnanas doesn’t smite me with the wrath of a thousand suns

twin thistle
#

Good you changed it no sword slander allowed zagmad

twin thistle
#

Arthur is fine kinda bouldy

old bluff
#

nuh uh

rustic vale
jagged hamlet
#

Arthur is very okay

rustic vale
#

Has anyone codex modded arthur with flurry slash-

#

Wait nevermind

#

I think I know what to expect

old bluff
#

any crashers?

rustic vale
old bluff
#

It would prob just crash the game

rustic vale
#

I feel like it would just override arthur tbh

old bluff
#

or that

rustic vale
#

Cuz it’s just replacing the attack combo

#

unlike flurry shot Rama

#

Hmm

#

I feel like someone has to have done the 3 rail hammers together

#

spreadfire/flurry/delta

fervent radish
#

flurry doesn't do anything

stiff obsidian
fervent radish
#

bow sucks (I'm bad at it)

rustic vale
old bluff
#

Yeah, Zeus sucks (i'm bad at it)

fervent radish
#

it doesn't do anything

#

messes up targeting sometimes

stiff obsidian
#

how can you be bad at zeus

rustic vale
#

Does delta fire just not care about the .6* attack cooldown

#

or

#

is that a lie

fervent radish
#

uh

#

imma be real I just spray and pray

old bluff
#

Delta is coded really, really wierd

rustic vale
#

I know it changes the attack cooldown but I can’t imagine it just sidesteps all attack speed buffs

stiff obsidian
#

but is really really op

rustic vale
#

…I mean I can imagine it doing that but I don’t want to

old bluff
#

ye, delta busted

rustic vale
#

surely flurry/spreadfire then

#

or spreadfire/delta

#

if no flurry/delta

old bluff
#

I think they just overwrite eachother

rustic vale
#

Hmm

#

Idk

#

That’d seem a bit odd to me

#

Cuz nothing either of them do necessarily changes how the rail strike works

#

I shouldmve got Hades on steam while it was on sale bouldy

#

Modding the game myself to check would be sweet

vocal crypt
stiff obsidian
#

its negligible anyway

#

dont think you have to do that

lavish sorrel
stiff obsidian
#

zeus

wicked veldt
#

is there a unique dialogue if you complete the run without mirrors?

mossy gulch
#

So I'm wondering, are there any benefits besides bragging rights to beating the game many times in a row?

I have like 50+ successive wins now, and I am scared at putting the heat too high, in case I die, and have to beat the game 100+ times to get some sort of special achievment or something

stiff obsidian
#

streaks give you nothing, atleast not at that range

mossy gulch
#

thats good to know! will help me push my risk with higher heat!

stiff obsidian
#

good luck

mossy gulch
#

I am on the path to 100%ing the game hehe

#

1 steam achievment to go, then some more stuff to buy in the house, and the duo prophecy, and I'm pretty much done

stiff obsidian
#

gl

mossy gulch
stiff obsidian
#

you can always just do it again if you wanted to

slate agate
#

if i were to do heat 6 before heat 5 can i still get the bounty rewards from heat 5

stiff obsidian
#

yeds

#

and then you will have to do 6 again too

slate agate
#

so i can try stupid stuff if i want to

stiff obsidian
#

yep

slate agate
#

so doing heat 6 counts as doing the highest heat youve gotten before

stiff obsidian
#

you could do 32 heat and it will only complete the next heat levels bounty

slate agate
#

ok i ended lernie in about 35 seconds thats crazY

mossy gulch
#

Is it just me or is it so hard to catch enough fish to fill out the book for the chaos fish??

#

Like, I have 135 hours +, still have multiple fish to catch in chaos land

stiff obsidian
#

its hard

rustic vale
#

that does require you to have already found a chaos fishing spot though

mossy gulch
#

ah gotcha, interesting

#

I'll see how many I have left when I've finished everything else in the game hehe

tepid light
stiff obsidian
#

i thought he was referring to the god

tepid light
#

i assumed the aspect

tepid light
#

@warm swallow

simple inlet
#

I KILLED HADES

warm swallow
tepid light
simple inlet
#

I love ares's cast

#

I had the Duo that auto locks to a target for three seconds

tepid light
#

What was the weapon/aspect?

simple inlet
#

I upgraded it once by accident

#

it dodged like 5 of his punishing sweeps

tepid light
#

Gotcha

#

Congrats, in any case

#

First clear always feels great

simple inlet
#

I didn't even use a death defiance

stiff obsidian
#

wow

simple inlet
#

also someone told me that I am gonna have a way to get so much more titan blood after hades defeat

#

I only got 1

rustic vale
#

You’ll find out when you get back to the House of Hades

#

The game pretty much tells you the deal as soon as you try to head back into a run

robust nebula
#

how do i stop losing all my death defiances to the heroes

simple inlet
#

you missed the sale

stiff obsidian
robust nebula
stiff obsidian
#

hes one of the heroes

simple inlet
# robust nebula hes not the problem

Phase 1 theseaus has very simple attacks, wait it out after killing the bull, in phase 2, it's just that but harder, but just pray to god it's not demeter, your are screwed there

rustic vale
simple inlet
#

also get strong drink from dionysus, it's really good

stiff obsidian
#

good builds in general make bosses much much easier

simple inlet
#

increased damage and full heal from the fountains

rustic vale
#

Breaking both Heroes into independent fights should take a lot of stress off your head so you can dodge better

stiff obsidian
#

if you have twice the dps then you fight them for half the duration making them x2 times easier

simple inlet
rustic vale
#

Strong drink is a ~nice pick up if dionysus ended up in your pool by chance or if he’s in your build as a focal point, but it’s nothing to go out of your way for

#

The more important thing is to get a functional build together then start reaching for those other things that are nice to have

simple inlet
#

how do I get the god sticker things next to my keepsakes?

rustic vale
simple inlet
rustic vale
#

Depends on the npc

#

and that’s not all you have to do

simple inlet
rustic vale
#

Once you hit the max with nectar, each npc has something you need to do to get their favour, which will allow you to gift them ambrosia

#

and fully max them out

simple inlet
#

whats the easiest one for the pact of punishment?

rustic vale
#

I think most npc’s are 7 nectars iirc. Most npc’s are also just one ambrosia

rustic vale
#

neither of them nerf your entire playthrough, extreme measures just mixes up the Furies fight and Tight Deadline 1 is easily surpassable with just a decent build

#

A few things about tight deadline, any left over time carries over to the next area, and when the timer hits 0 you start taking 5 damage a second, so you can still eek out a win if things go really really wrong

simple inlet
#

I am a fist player, does that change anything?

rustic vale
#

Not really

#

The only pact that really varies by weapon is damage control

#

faster weapons like fists and rail will take it earlier since they deal with it better, but it’s never really a great idea to take it

#

letting every enemy survive 1-2 hit longer is just going to drag out your game, and give all enemies more chances to hit you

#

Same thing goes with calesthenics program

simple inlet
#

I attack like 7 times a second I guess it's fine

rustic vale
#

Even then, it’s really something that’s just

#

Not worth it to take at this low heat when you have easier options

simple inlet
#

Epic After Party or Rare Premium Vintage?

#

early game btw

rustic vale
#

I’d take premium vintage

#

Unless you’re consistently finding yourself at low hp

simple inlet
rustic vale
#

The rarity doesn’t really change my opinion either

#

Most of the time, the function of a boon matters over rarity

keen mortar
#

I mean unless its my main attack boon, then i’d reconsider if it’s common

robust nebula
#

can anyone watch me do a run and give me some tips

#

i havent beaten the game yet

simple inlet
#

if I incease heat do I increase the amount of darkness I get? It would give a good reason to do higher heats other than "More Blood"

rustic vale
simple inlet
#

damn

rustic vale
#

Completing 40, 50, 64 heat doesn’t give any different reward then 0

#

Although

#

It is fun to challenge yourself

simple inlet
#

what are the requirements for ME

rustic vale
simple inlet
old bluff
#

Dash sadly is not a prereq

simple inlet
#

I never got athena speacial

#

special*

rustic vale
#

athena special is really just there for the ride for merciful end builds

#

You need it but you won’t be using it for your deflects, that’s divine dash’s job

rustic vale
simple inlet
#

omg

#

well now I need dash

#

athena is got giving me dash bro ;-;

rustic vale
simple inlet
rustic vale
#

that’d be the problem

simple inlet
#

also I am in the temple of styx :/

rustic vale
#

The game always tries to give you a core if you have any open. But if you have your cast and dash open, the game will pick between the two

#

and then roll all the boons regularly for the second and third boons

#

So if it rolls a cast you’re essentially riding on the game rolling dash for either of the 2 other options

#

Fillling that cast with another god’s cast should help if you can

#

If you can do that prior to picking up another athena boon (if there even is another athena boon)

sage basin
#

so i used some mods and beat the game in 13 minutes

rustic vale
sage basin
rustic vale
#

hyper sprint

#

?

#

Hyper sprint is strong at common

sage basin
rustic vale
#

OH

#

I mean yes given most weapons in the game prefer to dash strike for their damage

#

That should be incredibly good

sage basin
#

poseiden and aphrodite and dementor 3 best combos

#

what do you use diamons for i got 3 of them

rustic vale
rustic vale
#

The only real thing going on is Sweet Nectar for double poms on tdash

old bluff
#

Common doom:(.

simple inlet
#

the mvp was actually the call

#

it did so much damage

#

oh my, the aspect of gilgamesh changes the normal attack

#

damn

woeful trout
simple inlet
woeful trout
#

you live too quickly

simple inlet
#

how good is gilgamesh?

woeful trout
#

im pretty sure its like considered one of the worst

simple inlet
#

ahh

#

damn

rustic vale
simple inlet
#

I just realized it gave me 4 DASHES?

rustic vale
simple inlet
#

so I wasted 3 titan blood

rustic vale
#

eh

#

not really

#

you can always get more titan blood

#

and even though it's less effective in some cases doesn't mean you should write it off completely

#

even if x is better than y

#

you should still experiment and play around like

#

you can have fun with stuff that isn't meta

simple inlet
#

so currently using gilgamesh, it's really fun purely because of the 4 dashes

#

OH GOD I AM GETTING JUMPED BY THE FURIES

jagged hamlet
#

Gilgamesh can be fun unlike Chaos, so that's something

simple inlet
#

What is the most fun hidden aspect

twin thistle
#

Thats rather subjective

simple inlet
#

in your opinion

old bluff
#

Beo

simple inlet
#

also sorry for caps lock

old bluff
#

Beowulf, Shield hidden aspect

simple inlet
#

I thought you ment to say "bow" lol

uncut dirge
#

Whenever I play with Guan Yu or Explosive Launcher I feel like Kalista from League of Legends

#

Hopping/dashing around, chucking spears

simple inlet
#

how good is arthur?

jagged hamlet
#

Pretty average. There's much worse, and there's much better

stray anchor
#

lmao hades has dialogue for dying to ||charon||

simple inlet
jagged hamlet
#

There is no aspect of Charon

simple inlet
#

auto lock

jagged hamlet
#

Chiron with an "i"

simple inlet
jagged hamlet
#

Dunno. You tell me, Khiatic zaglol

north mountain
#

Charon is the boatman, Chiron is a centaur

simple inlet
north mountain
#

Also he was the teacher of Achilles

jagged hamlet
#

Just out of curiosity, do you play with the sound off?

simple inlet
#

I watch youtube while playing sometimes

jagged hamlet
#

Ah, gotcha. Makes sense

simple inlet
#

why would that matter?

jagged hamlet
#

I was wondering if you hadn't heard the characters pronouncing "Charon" and "Chiron"

#

They get confused commonly enough that I'm curious about how it happens

mint zenith
#

is there a way to see what boon/ability did how much damage in a run?

fervent radish
#

Unsure where to get it