h1-discussion

[brisk trail]

Try #h1-tech-support

[orchid turret]

triple shot bow (Dae hammer) your attack launces 3 arrows in 3 directions right if so can i get those 3 arrows to hit the same target if close enough or no?

[lavish sphinx]

@vale drift I noticed that the price of "Hades 2" has been reduced on Steam in PLN (138,99 PLN to 117,00 PLN). Could you consider adjusting the price on the Epic Games Store to match? It would make a big difference for your polish customers.

[uncut lake]

does anyone have any tips for me so i dont suck at the game

[winter cove]

if u romance thanatos and just thanatos, does he stay unhappy the entire relationship 😭

[charred bramble]

yep if you're like shooting point blank

[orchid turret]

AYE TY

[charred bramble]

no worries :3

funnily enough i got that boon just earlier today for the first time

is aight, especially when you hit enemies with the side arrows

[orchid turret]

i use it with aspect of rama specifically

[raw herald]

#h2-discussion ?

I’m not clicking so I don’t know what the spoiler says

If it’s a hades 1 spoiler then you don’t need spoiler text

[bitter badge]

Oh I'm such a dumbass

Lmao

Thank youuu

[raw herald]

Hey at least you included spoiler text

[bitter badge]

Of course!!

[uncut lake]

can anyone give me some tips to play better

[raw herald]

What are you struggling with

[lunar mulch]

I picked up hades 2 days ago

Again
And I'm trash lmao

Yesterday and today I followed a build guide for Poseidon artemis build

I don't think I'm good at going fast or close up

I also tried to use that backstab bonus and evade instead of second dash from the mirror
It didn't do much I think

Yesterday I've had guided cast lvl 12 so that was fun
Its a shame I can't see bosses bar going down while I play due to hectic naturr

[fair dove]

you should try a Artemis,Zeus, Ares and the twin fists second upgrade, punch the boss every second, finish with a electric punch that deals after dmg from Ares and finish with the crit callout from Artemis, its satisfying most of the time

[lunar mulch]

I've got like 2 attempts with the fists
I remember reading they do the most dmg but maybe I would prefer something simpler

Without crazy button mashing or risky positioning
I prefer to play without taking damage

[fair dove]

So bow or rail?

[lunar mulch]

I've tried rail yesterday too but special build and I noticed it falls off later on when facing fast or dashing enemies

It forces me to run circles and mortar myself

[fair dove]

you just need to bait them not a big problem

[lunar mulch]

And that cluster hammer upgreade was also wild

It forced me to dive for no reason

My highest heat is with bow

I've forced that guided special and double debuff but it kinda bore me now

Maybe a different upgreade?

[fair dove]

tried a build recently, going mostly crit, frost dmg on special, and bigger range and dmg on special but u alse take dmg, knockback on normal shots and i just hide around a corner bombarding Hades

[brisk zephyr]

yall i finally beat hades for the first time on mobile

[fair dove]

im almost done trying to finish with 18 heat, gotta get that second statue

[brisk zephyr]

shiuld i try to get sweet nectar while doin an ice wine based spear run?

[fair dove]

sure

[brisk zephyr]

would any boons interfere with me getting ice wine like should i get sweet nectar first or ice wine

like i plan on doin dionysus cast and demeter special but then would i do aphrodite attack and poseidon dash?

[rain mirage]

Just realized why Thanatos’s appearance has been bothering me
He got the roblox bacon hair

[snow rampart]

💀 Now i cant unsee it

quick question for you all how many hours you have in Hades

[old bluff]

800

[snow rampart]

i have 120 on it but i think i have more than that cause i was playing an cracked version before of the game because it was banned in my country then the lifted it

[oak olive]

What county ban hades

Almost zero controversial thing

[snow rampart]

egypt

for some reason

[snow rampart]

good god they didnt ban hades 2 but know whats funny

[deep night]

i killed hades for the first time

my heart is racing rn

just after that i made a 6 heat run

almost killed him but died

[snow rampart]

wait till you turn on the extreme measures

[deep night]

i still don'T know how to unlocky hidden aspects

[oak olive]

Just play

[deep night]

i'm trying to get fists hidden aspect

[old bluff]

Pls don’t

[rain mirage]

Little over 30, got the game a week ago and recently hit 10 clears

[deep night]

don't spoil me about if its good or bad please i'm trying to play the game blind

[rain mirage]

My b

[snow rampart]

just play part of enjoying games is to finding out how to unlock secrets by yourself best feeling ever

[old bluff]

This channel is for full spoilers, if you wish for a spoiler free environment, you should probably use Hades for new players channels

https://discord.com/channels/456889434672201729/725021347968712724

[deep night]

oh

ty

[rocky solstice]

Hey shield build, best gods

[old bluff]

Which shield?

[rocky solstice]

? Oh

First blood

[oak olive]

I cant ever make shield works

[deep night]

i got 13 hours and 29 minutes in the game

[oak olive]

That weapon just feels clunly

[deep night]

bought it 2 days ago

very nice

[old bluff]

Arty on attack, then look for charged shot or pulverizing blow hammer, and look for Tdash plus Zeus call

[snow rampart]

you gotta a long away to go mate

[deep night]

👍

[rain mirage]

Same

Can’t do quick melee, can’t do long ranged
Feels weird

Cleared with everything but shield and rail at this point

[oak olive]

Rail is easy afterall its range

Rail special is disgusting btw with hammer

[fair dove]

the shield is ironically a good weapon, just gotta use it to shield from dmg more ofter, I got the second best time on it right after the fists

[azure helm]

Idk why game recommend to play with controller, i used controller and mouse and keyboard are definitely more comfortable

And simply better

[snow rampart]

ikr

[azure helm]

Even hades 2 is better with mouse and keyboard

[snow rampart]

didn't try it yet so i can't tell

[rough harbor]

quick question, is there a place where all the hades assets are stored? like, a drive or something

i need the room clear sfx

[mint coral]

Prob ask the modding discord (pinned in #self-promotion

[stable kettle]

I like Hades with controller

[snow rampart]

guys is there anyway to play hades 2 with famliy share on steam or something

[frosty mesa]

chaos:

https://tenor.com/view/mercy-overwatch-come-here-gif-14280244

[mint coral]

~~that doesn't solve anything ~~

[frosty mesa]

its cooler so yes it does

youll have a faster time due to not being asleep

[mint coral]

I can have a faster time by just nuking stuff with beo but fair on the coolness lmao

Chaos speaking to you mid run is great

[frosty mesa]

sounds like youre not asleep which is the same reason

play default shield youll be snoring by asphodel

[frosty mesa]

that terrified me the first time i heard it

[mint coral]

The funny thing is that chaos aspect is often referred as lvl 0 zag shield here lmao

They both play the same at high lvls

[frosty mesa]

tbf shield is my least favorite weapon except for gun i use it once per like 10 runs if that

[analog forge]

Mine is the feral claws lol

[frosty mesa]

i dont have total aspect ranking but general weapons is hands > spear > sword > bow > shield > gun

[rain mirage]

shield was my favorite until I figured out how to play the game
sword/fists merciful end shenanigans and achilles spear dash 🔥

invuln was cool at first

[feral kite]

Is zagreus a twink?

[frosty mesa]

but hands feel way easier than everything so i have them on like 5 higher heat and have decided i should probably even it out a bit

hes a bisexual diety from atlanta

[rain mirage]

He is a twunk at best

[feral kite]

Yeah your right thanks my friend was asking

[rain mirage]

no beard != twink 😭
some people insane fr

[vital canyon]

Mine is bow> spear> hands> sword> shield> gun

[frosty mesa]

honestly its more like hands > spear = sword > bow >>> shield >>>>> gun

[mint coral]

Shield=bow>rail>spear>fists=swprd

[frosty mesa]

thats horrifying

how do you enjoy shield AND gun that much

[mint coral]

Fastest weapons moment

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1229078264811618305/1235735576393814016/footsies.mp4?ex=6640a8b0&is=663f5730&hm=14d65aea4db951eda3b9c92079c9377f03b6af98eade75f76164b28885ee426a&

Not even my best run with it

[raw herald]

https://imgur.com/a/WRpRTMx i think this speaks for itself lol (mobile save)

[desert tundra]

Mobile speedrunning

[rain mirage]

sheesh

[vernal jungle]

spam dash-strike

and bull rush small units into walls

don't bother with special unless you have a weapon aspect/can apply debuffs with it

doom/weak is nice

[rotund horizon]

Is there a vc?

[jagged hamlet]

Nowhere here is a vc

Just in case that's not clear
https://tenor.com/view/baldur's-gate-baldur's-gate-3-withers-no-noo-gif-6455368871201756432

[warm oxide]

Honestly if you’re telling me you wouldn’t throw zag for fun and profit
That’s kinda where the twunk vibe comes from

[warm oxide]

It’s for the best honestly

[jagged hamlet]

I miss alma/lungblossom/AD

[lunar mulch]

I died early

Im looking for Patroclus

Can i reroll something to increase my chances of finding him

[jagged hamlet]

Nay

[lunar mulch]

Bummer
It ended up a good run

[fluid radish]

[analog fable]

Anyone equip cosmic egg and never run into that little fudge that is chaos?

And when you unequip egg you run into them

[brisk trail]

what is the egg for?

is a space whale inside of it?

did Nyx and Hades have any kids together?

what is your favorite keepsake?

[upper urchin]

I swear, they programmed it that way. We are onto them

[analog fable]

I want to say cosmic egg

But my game won’t let me

[brisk trail]

I'm going to eat the cosmic egg

[upper urchin]

The forbidden egg

[brisk trail]

and have eternally sufficient protein levels

[upper urchin]

Legends say if you manage to eat the egg, chaos will bless you infinitely

[brisk trail]

I want to get into a vc with hades fans to decide which character would be who from family guy

[upper urchin]

Best keepsake is pierced butterfly. easy damage in the first world

[brisk trail]

i want to make a peter griffin zagreus edit

and then stewie hypnos and so on

[upper urchin]

Hey Zagereus .... nice sword

[analog fable]

Pierced butterfly actually worth using?

Over cosmic egg

Cosmic egg is my bae

[brisk trail]

cosmic omelet

[upper urchin]

Just depends on your playstyle. Egg is nice with the chance to get better stuff, but I just prefer the raw damage

Just the way I like my cosmic omlettes. Raw

[analog fable]

Is your device storage full

That may be a reason but idk

[crimson wyvern]

I still cant get shadow.
The Cauldron gives me not the recipe

[tall slate]

have storage space

[mint coral]

no, and neither is egg fwiw

but egg is funny at least

[analog fable]

Is it better to attempt pierced butterfly or hermes’ feather

Damage vs dodge

[jagged hamlet]

Begone, foul four-leafed clover 🍀 Off to #h2-discussion with ye!

[mint coral]

if you wanna do a full run with them outside of the achievements? plume

[mint coral]

wrong link

[jagged hamlet]

Huh wha

[mint coral]

oh there it is

[upper urchin]

Packrat the protector of hades-discussion

[analog fable]

What keepsake do you recommend before styx then

[mint coral]

if you care about meta
god keepsake to start build
2nd god in aspho for duo/support
defensive/utility (acorn/hourglass/sigil of the dad if speedrunning) for ely and styx

if you want a bit more of rng at your start you can do shackle/coin purse and build from there

[runic jungle]

Okay I've Def been too mean to artemis her cast and crit boons have been coming in clutch with my last few runs

[lunar mulch]

What weapon has least macro

[jagged hamlet]

Could you define "macro"?

[lunar mulch]

A lot of button mashing

[gray hatch]

whatever you do do NOT use the fists of malphon then

[latent moon]

you can hold atk on fists lol

[lunar mulch]

For example I've got a lot of experience in gungeon and cuphead
It's mechanics focused

[gray hatch]

sure you can hold attack on the fists but how you gonna spam dash strikes and specials then

[latent moon]

least button mashing would be like

idk hestia if you dont care that much about full optimization

[gray hatch]

Lucifer's aspect railgun? kinda just beam enemies.

[latent moon]

reload -> shoot -> repeat and maybe throw some specials whenever you want

[lunar mulch]

Too nub to care

[jagged hamlet]

Zagbow is just dash-strike ad nauseum

[lunar mulch]

Hestia is hidden Bow ye?

[latent moon]

kinda spammy with dash but also kinda mediocre without triple bomb

oh yeah zag bow

[latent moon]

rail aspect

[lunar mulch]

Ah

[latent moon]

zag bow and rama aren't that spammy either

[lunar mulch]

What works good on higher heats

[latent moon]

how high do you want to go

[lunar mulch]

Very low but if imma learn something it better be good for long runs

[latent moon]

for 32 heat anything works as long as you have a somewhat cohesive build

[lunar mulch]

Tho I play slow

[latent moon]

hestia is super easy for heat

rama is harder to learn but also is really good

zag bow is pretty consistent so it'll work as well

everything can clear 32 heat so like pick anything lmao

[tawny pecan]

is modding discussion prohibited here

[dim bronze]

stupid question who is the main badguy in hades ? ( never played it )

[fair dove]

||Zeus||

[fair dove]

You bought the game, you can mod it

[rain mirage]

Zag is finally playing legitimate chords on the lyre

was just plucking at it making noise and then suddenly it wasn't noise

[abstract meadow]

are there any charcters that give you benefits for giving more than 1 nectar?

[fair dove]

yes, skelly for ex

[serene arrow]

is the game playable at 45 fps?

[tawny pecan]

yes

[tawny pecan]

playing it 30-50 fps max as we speak

[serene arrow]

wdym

actually i'm playing 60 fps most of the time until alphodel (volcano area) then i drop to 45 fps so is it playable?

[tawny pecan]

does it stay in 45 or just when youre fighting enemies?

but most of the time it is still very much playable

[serene arrow]

when i fight enenmies only ( only in vlocano area)

[tawny pecan]

in that case, yes then

[serene arrow]

for 100%?

[brisk trail]

"Come on, put on the maid dress Dusa"

[jagged hamlet]

I'd like to imagine she would drape it on herself like a veil/headcape

[brisk trail]

"Is this good Prince?"

[jagged hamlet]

Dusa should dress as Gastly for Halloween

[brisk trail]

dusa cacodemon

[jagged hamlet]

Dusa as herself with Zagreus as [insert Castlevania protagonist here]

[brisk trail]

I would play a Hades Metroidvania

[jagged hamlet]

SGG metroidvania when

[runic jungle]

Zagbow is so great but man the special is prolly my least favorite special in the game ngl.
It's only decent for me if I have the poseidon knock back boon >_>

[lunar mulch]

Just hot my best time yet

32min lmao

[brisk trail]

I am making one

they will have to hire me some day

for the persephone farming game

[lunar mulch]

Poseidon build with true shot, greater recall, snow burst, support fire, clean kill also hammers dash and super nova

I just tanked hades
Had 4 defences and 375 hp

[upper urchin]

when family guy feat hades dropping

[lunar mulch]

Zeus shield with atena on special and 3 blade rifts on cast is kinda funny af

[chrome crown]

It's a shotgun

Also pairs well with doom, so just scraping someone from across the arena is a chunky bite

[runic jungle]

Oh I usually pair dio and poseidon w bow
I'll try doom next

And Athena too but I realize deflect is awful on bow due to how slow the shots are lol
For attack at least

[chrome crown]

Be sure to get the doom stacking one, for ultra carnage

[jagged hamlet]

Have you not been playing with a focus on attack and percentage-based attack boons?

[chrome crown]

Poseidon with bonus boss damage is close enough to aphrodite damage

[stone rune]

no its not

[lean ice]

I have 5 successful escapes and all of them I did one after another... damnn

[stone rune]

what is happening

[chrome crown]

Mixed up the gods

[jagged hamlet]

The server's conspiring to give you an aneurism, jazz

[stone rune]

why am i seeing more people saying to take pos atk

[runic jungle]

My rng luck has been garbo my last few runs lol.
Like really bad.

[chrome crown]

I'm not saying to take it, I'm saying that it's a percentage based attack instead of flat

[stone rune]

then whats the point of mentioning it

[jagged hamlet]

Yeah, I was thinking similarly

[chrome crown]

Cuz packrat asked if they haven't been playing with percentage based attack boons, and I was pointing out posiedon technically is

[stone rune]

pos does not rlly count

[chrome crown]

And can be suited up to not be the worst handicap on bosses

[stone rune]

for one the boost is measly and garbage

[latent moon]

poseidon atk is technically flat damage bc you get more mileage out of razor shoals than the actual %

[jagged hamlet]

I guess that's a fair point

[chrome crown]

I never use razor shoals enough, but then again I prefer to use posiedon Zeus combo for the flat damage of the bolts with double strike

[stone rune]

on bow????

[chrome crown]

Oh, God no

Just in general

Like, if I get stuck with a purple posiedon attack as my first roll on the fists

[stone rune]

literally any other core would be better

[old bluff]

no pls say it isn't so

Pos attack on fists?

[chrome crown]

What can I say, I'm a big double strike fan

Getting bolts on attack is nice

[stone rune]

what does that have to do with it

just use zeus attack

[old bluff]

^

[chrome crown]

Zeus attack is the chain

Not bolt

Ergo doesn't double strike

[old bluff]

Are you taking about Sea Storm?

[stone rune]

get jolted

[chrome crown]

Jolted only proccs on my enemies attack not my own, and I can squeeze out far more swings than they can

And you can stack jolted with the bolt anyways

[old bluff]

Jolted is one of the strongest boons in the game

[old bluff]

What does this even mean?

[latent moon]

zeus builds work because of jolted, not because of double strike

[chrome crown]

I'm not disagreeing with that, but I don't think their usage is mutually exclusive

Like, I can run both

[latent moon]

they're not but you'd much rather aim for jolted than double strike

[old bluff]

There is no Zap build without Jolted

[latent moon]

which means you'd rather have lightning strke than pos atk -> sea storm

[chrome crown]

I usually go for both

[old bluff]

It's like running doom attack without ME

[latent moon]

starting with lightning strike means you're more likely to get jolted earlier for more poms

[chrome crown]

That's a fair point

But the winds don't always blow in the direction we want

[latent moon]

well starting with zeus keepsake would be a step in the right direction lmao

3/4 chance to get lightning strike first boon

[chrome crown]

Nah, I'm farming titan blood still.

[latent moon]

if you dont get it, the cast is a decent choice

[latent moon]

what does that have to do with starting zeus

[chrome crown]

Which usually means hypnos start with the money growth mirror

[latent moon]

oh for styx

[chrome crown]

Yupp

[latent moon]

i mean that's technically fine but it's only a worthwhile strategy if you actually clear

[mint coral]

Can't you just equip it in aspho

[chrome crown]

Usually do

[latent moon]

although if you clear runs faster you'll prob net more in the long run

[chrome crown]

Earlier you equip it, the higher the growth rate

[latent moon]

also yeah equip it in aspho so you actually get a good build tbh

[chrome crown]

Like, is it better to invest in your retirement at 20 or 25?

Both are probably good, but you'd be suprised the difference that seemingly small period of time makes

[jagged hamlet]

What's the risk of me dying at 20 with the earlier investment strategy 😮

[old bluff]

Is it better to die before retirement or to enjoy it?

[chrome crown]

I almost feel like I should run this for you

But it's my weekend so..

[jagged hamlet]

Win rate and clear speed probability variables, please

[chrome crown]

... no

[jagged hamlet]

There go my plans to dominate your weekend

[chrome crown]

I'm sure we could find other ways

[runic jungle]

I thought people said that poseidon attack was bad?
Or is it only bad at high heat bc rn it's doing wonders for me lol

[mint coral]

At low heat you can pretty much win with anything yeah

But there are better sources of knockback (tidal dash) or % for your attack

[lunar mulch]

I passed the game
Credits

My build was wacky but I still think I could have beat hades

[jagged hamlet]

I wish Chiron came bundled with Concentrated Volley and had one more Special arrow at max rank than it currently does

[vapid tapir]

i got hades 2 chat im no longer bound to this channel 🎉

[onyx yoke]

how does compel shades work? i keep hitting the buttons it tells me to hit and tells me I fail

[jagged hamlet]

I think you hit the wrong channel button. This is hades-discussion. #h2-discussion is thataway

[fervent radish]

The value of purse decreases dramatically as you leave asphodel

And so does the value of money

And if we’re talking money, Zeus attack into jolted is so much cheaper than Poseidon attack into Zeus core into sea storm into jolted

Double strike doesn’t do a whole lot since you’re not allowing the enemy to proc jolted between the strikes

[dusky solar]

so i tried EM 4 for the first time

i made it like. a quarter of the way through his 3rd phase...

im DEFINETELY putting phase 3 soundtrack in my playlist

[visual jay]

Hello Anybody can help me with unlocking Slashed Benefits prophecy pls?

[mint coral]

Isn't unlocked by just running benefits package

[visual jay]

i feel like its bugged for some reason

everywhere i searched it says just beat hades with 1 heat (im at 16)

I dont have the achievement and its not on my prophecys

not sure if i should start a new save

[mint coral]

Have you used this pact?

[visual jay]

well i dont usually run it

but i dont see the prophecy anyway so dunno if it would complete it even if i ran it

but ill give it a shot i guess

[dusky solar]

i remember that time i ran fo2 benefits package and got speeder on the tiny cat chariots. i was using rama. i think i died.

[dusky solar]

im surprised i got that far tho, my build was terrible. i was running zagbow and the only things i had going for me was zeus special and marked for death

my special was ALL of my damage

but yknow

i wasnt using the funny homing special bow

[mint coral]

How did you end up without any attack

[dusky solar]

i had arty attack but it was so poorly underleveled and i had no crit synergies OTHER than marked for death

[mint coral]

Bad hammers I assume?

[dusky solar]

oh wait no

i had aph attack it was jusy really low rarity and like 1 pom

[mint coral]

Ouch

[dusky solar]

i got the 4x special damage vs armor and the +3 damage per special arrow on one target, combined with an epic tier zeus special it went really well. yknow... until the champions. my build really fell apart there.

im surprised i had two DD left entering hades fight

[mint coral]

Nice chiron run

[dusky solar]

i literally said it WASNT chiron

i was using zagbow

[mint coral]

Joke

[dusky solar]

sorry

im just a little stupid sometimes

[mint coral]

Happens

[dusky solar]

but yeah my build started out awesome and just fell apart at the seams

[eternal berry]

?stick This channel (and category) is for discussing the first Hades game. Please go to #h2-discussion to talk about Hades II.

Hi folks, sorry about that, just adding in a little sticky note for new users coming in, hopefully it will help mitigate some confusion.

?stickspeed 2min

[dusky solar]

not sure what weapon ill use next time i try em4

guan yu

[tawny pecan]

hade

[rain mirage]

I just realized Persephone has Demeter's eyes

[serene arrow]

Guys does the heats affect hades fps?

[latent moon]

it shouldn't

adding heat to the pact shouldn't do anything to game fps

unless it's like idk really cluttery benefit packages buffs

[charred bramble]

got up to the final boss for the first time last night

was a fun fight but I blew my 2 remaining revives finding the sack for Cerby

buuuuuut I did beat hydra & Theseus/Asterius without using any revives so that was sick

[outer vault]

Why can't I accept any of Nemesis' offers?

[fervent radish]

[stuck pier]

I think I've screwed up the way I play Hades

literally the only weapon I can use remotely well is the Zag Sword

also I suck against the bosses, specifically EM4 REDACTED

[jagged hamlet]

That's crazy. Unless you mean you've settled into the optimal rotation of dash-strike*2 into special and can't break the habit while playing other weapons

Good attackbot

[stuck pier]

Well, I only play the first ZagSword, the one with no interaction with the Special, so I just cast and then spam Dash-Strike

[lunar mulch]

Is death defience bad at high heat

[stuck pier]

I'm kind of getting into the Aspect of Hades Spear

but it's trickier to use

I can't play the Aspect of Achilles Spear at all

[jagged hamlet]

Maybe you can still play most of the bows minus the much maligned Chiron. Those rely heavily on dash-strikes

[stuck pier]

I actually always struggled with the Bows

they seemed really slow

is there a good one for a beginner?

[latent moon]

make sure to always dash strike

makes the shot charge faster

[limpid ocean]

Should eris start with poseidon artemis or zeus keepsake?

[latent moon]

chiron is generally regarded as beginner friendly since it focuses on the special but it's not as good as any of the other bows

[latent moon]

zeus

[limpid ocean]

ty

[latent moon]

you can start poseidon for the dash but that's more for speedrunning

[limpid ocean]

yeah I'm trying to do 45+ for rail rn

this should be the easiest of the 6 weapons I think

got artemis erebus before posidon showed up, gonna try and get her on special

(I took posideon before I asked the question in here)

[latent moon]

depends whether or not you get delta chamber tbh

otherwise you can always use hestia

although depends on the rest of the pact, eris should still be fairly straight forward

[sleek cliff]

i feel like beo was easier

beo > hesty > rama > eris > nem iirc

i mean i didnt do nem

[stuck pier]

ugh, lost 4 Death Defieds in Elysium itself, then I just quit the run

[latent moon]

it do be like that

[stuck pier]

My goal is to beat 32 Heat for the last statue, but the best I've been able to do is just 16 (with the Szgreus Sword)

[latent moon]

there's a guide pinned in #h1-high-heat-strategies if you need help

[weak furnace]

there are no baths in regular hades right ?

i am talking about the 1st hades game

[jagged hamlet]

What do baths do? There are fountain chambers which restore HP

[weak furnace]

i mean to bathe with the npc

[jagged hamlet]

There are no baths

[weak furnace]

ok cool

[rain mirage]

Down horrendous

[weak furnace]

can u blame me tho ?

have i pissed off the bot ?

[rain mirage]

True
I'm not sure if you can romance characters in hades 2 so hades 1 has that going for it

Nah the bot just does that

[jagged hamlet]

Yes. The bot will bite everybody

Especially you

[weak furnace]

it has done nothing to both of u

[stuck pier]

Thanks, I'm seeing the guide now and it looks really helpful!

I guess I won't try EM4 for a long time then

there's no shame in avoiding it

[latent moon]

you can try em4 in 2 runs because you'll clear 32 heat in 1 run surely

[stuck pier]

Well this is embarrassing

It turns out the reason I was having trouble with Achilles Spear was that my mouse wheel wasn’t functioning well

I rebound Special to Q

And now it’s great

This feels like an A or S tier aspect, though I wouldn’t know enough about the game to make that call

[latent moon]

achilles is one of the fastest aspects in the game

it's really good

just a lot of button mashing

how fast you mash directly correlates with how much damage you do

[tulip mist]

Hi, I bought Hades 1 yesterday and I've joined this server because omg omg omg Dusa is so freaking cute I am going to die please send help
That's all
Thank you for your attention and have a nice day.

[empty mason]

Based Hades player

Dusa is best girl

[tulip mist]

Yeeees

[empty mason]

[shell spruce]

Quick question: does higher resolution enable me to see more of the stage?

[latent moon]

dont think so

[empty mason]

my hand

it hurts

playing hades takes a lot

owie

I've never clicked and button mashed so much in my life...

Except on my Playstation when I played the original God of War trilogy

[tepid light]

@empty mason your name and pfp horrify me

how dare you treat the emperor of shurima like this

[empty mason]

:(

[empty mason]

meow

[tepid light]

the real azir would be repulsed by you

begone

[empty mason]

Tell the Peepo what you have seen today, Asian :3

[tepid light]

No

[shell spruce]

Weird… im playing at 1080p, i saw some streamers that kinda able to see more of the stage hmmm

[tepid light]

why does the bot keep popping up randomly

[void vigil]

it’s stickied so people see it

And don’t hades 2 in the hades 1 channels

[jagged hamlet]

It's timed to show up minimum of every 2 min to stay near the bottom of the screen oh my gosh AD is back

[void vigil]

What did I do

[jagged hamlet]

When the world needed you most, you vanished

[void vigil]

[jagged hamlet]

We've had to fend off Hades 2 posters in these here Hades channels ourselves for days I'll have you know

[void vigil]

You have caitlin to thank for the sticky LOL

[jagged hamlet]

Yes! I am grateful for it. It's a great attackbot

[charred bramble]

||DAD HAS A SECOND PHASE?!?!||

[mint coral]

Been a while since I've seen that lmao

[empty mason]

Oh yeah

that was my reaction lol

then I died to his laser gun

[mint coral]

I fully knew of the 2nd phase and died to the initial shockwave anyways lmao

[charred bramble]

i had zero idea about any of it

somehow didn't die to the lasers since i had the hermes boon that gave me double move speed/invulnerable whenever i dodged

was i supposed to destroy the green pots that he throws out or is it just a farce to make me take more damage?

since they drop pools of acid

[mint coral]

You can destroy them if they are filling up too much of the arena

Dad attacks will also destroy them

They do 30 dmg and stun so still be careful

[lost elk]

whats the deal with the constant mentioning of not sitting down? is this a gag made while hades was in early access?

[tepid light]

i'm fairly sure it's just zagreus feeling like he has to always keep moving and keep trying and so there's no time to sit down and rest

but i wouldn't be surprised if there's a deeper inside joke

[shadow heart]

dyonisys at the start of this run was the rarest god i could find, now all of a sudden he wants too give me 4 boons

whot?

the bone hydra has 2 types of fight, they both involve saying screw you

either you melt his hp or you get melted

[lunar mulch]

I noticed thats a theme

[shadow heart]

i like that the small chariots are a sudden note too sheer heart attack from jojo's bizarre adventure

[toxic narwhal]

hellooo

[shadow heart]

relentless volley on the bow with dionysis special DAMNNNNNNNNNNNN

[charred bramble]

love it when i get good chaos boons with good setbacks like taking longer to pick up gems

i only rly use them when fighting bosses so i can take advantage of the damage increase when they're on ppl

[lunar mulch]

Should i try to go for higher heats more

[vernal jungle]

bone hydra difficulty depends on whether lernie spawns the heads that shoot lava

those really compress the space you get to work with

if they're not present it's much more manageable

[shadow heart]

i just saw that one and its sucks,also lernie (i call him LENNY ) is a lil coward

[wintry light]

Dude I'm struggling to get past Scylla, but gawd damn the OST absolutely slaps

[tepid light]

uh

scylla?

[wintry light]

Oh wait I'm not In Hades 2 chat lmao

My b

[tepid light]

I have heard yet another spoiler

[shadow heart]

slammer is best hgead too fight for me

ye

[tepid light]

My rage increases

[vernal jungle]

i have no idea who the hell scylla is

[shadow heart]

+20% damage

[shadow heart]

in myth?

[vernal jungle]

matter of fact i have no clue what the new game is about thus i will not mention it again :))

[vernal jungle]

and in game

i just finished the main quest and don't play high heat though

i did get spoiled on extreme measures lernie

[shadow heart]

in myth In Greek mythology, Scylla[a] (/ˈsɪlə/ SIL-ə; Greek: Σκύλλα, translit. Skýlla, pronounced [skýlːa]) is a legendary monster who lives on one side of a narrow channel of water, opposite her counterpart Charybdis. The two sides of the strait are within an arrow's range of each other—so close that sailors attempting to avoid Charybdis would pass dangerously close to Scylla and vice versa.

Scylla is first attested in Homer's Odyssey, where Odysseus and his crew encounter her and Charybdis on their travels. Later myth provides an origin story as a beautiful nymph who gets turned into a monster.[2]

Book Three of Virgil's Aeneid[3] associates the strait where Scylla dwells with the Strait of Messina between Calabria, a region of Southern Italy, and Sicily. The coastal town of Scilla in Calabria takes its name from the mythological figure of Scylla and it is said to be the home of the nymph.

The idiom "between Scylla and Charybdis" has come to mean being forced to choose between two similarly dangerous situations.

[tepid light]

did you just copypaste wikipedia

[shadow heart]

yes

i did

also not gonna spoil but they massacured my boy chaos

[vernal jungle]

chaos looks really unique in 1

[shadow heart]

and in hades 2 hes just a guy

a lil unique suit but

[tepid light]

let's end this convo here please

[shadow heart]

they just massacured his design

[tepid light]

we're already not supposed to be talking about hades 2 here

[crimson skiff]

Oh hey I like why Chaos changed his design though. There's a story reason.

I prefer his design in Hades 1, for sure.

[shadow heart]

dm me the reason

[crimson skiff]

Been bashing my head against heat 50 to no avail lately

[sonic sleet]

So hmm, how do gods and age work?

For example, Demeter looks pretty old.

Is that just a form she likes?

[tepid light]

Most likely

[crimson skiff]

I don't think so, a lot of Gods have their age tied to how old they are on the Pantheon.

[tepid light]

Given that greek gods can shapeshift

[crimson skiff]

Demeter, Poseidon and Zeus are considered older, and have "elderly" visages.

Aphrodite, Artemis and the like are much younger.

Persephone is a tad different since she is half mortal, so my guess she ages a tad faster?

Same goes for Hades.

[tepid light]

But Nyx is also very old but she looks just fine

As does Chaos

[sonic sleet]

Oh my god

That stickybot

I keep seeing it pop up over and over XD

[crimson skiff]

I think they are fundamentally different, Chtonic Gods don't "age" same as usual Olympians.

Chaos is another matter entirely, dude is literally the embodiment of a Big Bang, I think they look however they want.

[sonic sleet]

Oh well for example, Aphrodite is older then the main 3 XD

[tepid light]

On what basis do you claim that though

You can't just 'say' they work differently

[sonic sleet]

The Sticky Bot thinks i'm talking about Hades 2 XD

It keeps popping up I don't know if you guys can see it.

[crimson skiff]

Just that beings from the "Death" realm might not be susceptible to aspects of "life" like aging,

[tepid light]

Nah it's just set to keep popping up to remind people

[crimson skiff]

It appears to me as well.

Honestly, Hades chooses its own Story, like the myth of Zagreus for instance.

I am not sure nor have I any proof that in the Hades universe Aphro is older/younger.

[tepid light]

But gods are by nature beyond death and life, couldn't one just as well argue that cthonic gods age faster because they're surrounded by death

[crimson skiff]

Don't remember seeing any references to her age

[sonic sleet]

Oh here~

Basically after Chronos kileld his father he uh

Tossed his stuff into the sea and she emerged from the sea foam.

Then when the whole war stuff started if I recall she sided with the gods.

God births are down right weird.

[versed crag]

I haven't played hades in so long I've forgotten the story lmao should I restart or something

[crimson skiff]

Yes Jersey, I just haven't seen comments on the game that refer to that specific myth being canon in the Hades universe.

Sticky bot is very Sticky.

[tepid light]

wrong quote

[sonic sleet]

Zeus ate Athena's Mom and she came out of his head XD

THEN AGAIN

It's been shown in Hades that some stuff the gods just made up to cover stuff. XD

Or like Zag and that music situation causing confusion

[crimson skiff]

Yeah, for instance, Hymn to Zagreus is one of the myths regarding the creation of Zagreus in our world.

In universe, it's another matter entirely.

[sonic sleet]

Also!

[crimson skiff]

So I can't say for sure who is older than what, but Demeter, Poseidon and Zeus are always refered to as "lord father", "elders", and the like.

[sonic sleet]

If i'm correct Hades seems to not like exactly what he and his brothers did to their father.

He seems to not like talking about it and when he did mention it he seems to take no joy from what they did.

I suppose cutting your father up while he's alive into tiny parts isn't a fun memory. XD

[tepid light]

I mean I think everyone can agree that those three are relatively older than the others

What we were originally talking about was their older appearances and whether it's a conscious choice by the gods

[crimson skiff]

I think that discussion gets really close to what makes StickyBot angry...

[sonic sleet]

Oh no XD

It's talked about in hades 1

Their was a few talks about it

APPARENTLY Hades mentions he was a better father then Demeter's dad. XD

[mint coral]

The bot just comments on its own every so often, is not triggered by conversation

[sonic sleet]

Her dad she like uber killed

I'm like what the heck did that guy do

[crimson skiff]

I'm not sure Asian, don't think there's a definitive answer.

I base myself in what I saw in both games. Most gods kept their appearences, except for Chaos.

[crimson skiff]

Started a war and ate his children?

[tepid light]

I'm pretty sure Hyperion was just such a terrible and abusive dad that Demeter beat him into nonexistence in payback

[sonic sleet]

The Titan Hyperion suffered the worst of it, his undying body pulverized to such an extent that even his legacy was destroyed.

She worked out some major anger issues XD

[oak olive]

Shu shu shu

[crimson skiff]

By the way, do you guys knew that this channel (and category) is for discussing the first Hades game. And we should go to ⁠hades2-discussion to talk about Hades II?

[oak olive]

Really

[sonic sleet]

Yeah?

[crimson skiff]

Absolutely. kkk

[sonic sleet]

We are talking about Hades 1 :u

[crimson skiff]

I kid you not.

I'm just messing, the bot is getting to me.

[cunning night]

is there a place where I can report a bug?

[crimson skiff]

HAdes 1 or 2 Hem

Hades 1 i'm not sure, you can press F10 ingame for Hades 2

[glacial void]

I wanted to do a maxed out jury summons run + the hp buff ... Then... I remember Elysium is a thing. So I probably wont for my hand health and mental health lol

[tepid light]

Hey it's what I do anyway

no harm giving it a try

[glacial void]

Do you need a hug ?

[sonic sleet]

Side bit

[tepid light]

I infinitely prefer that over tight deadline shenanigans

[glacial void]

But my wrist and for arm actually isn't in full good health

[sonic sleet]

What's the diff between a god and a titan?
Since Demeter is a goddess but her sister Selene is a titan.

[tepid light]

Careful there

[glacial void]

I remembered doing benifit package +2 and had +20% or sometimes +40% in my first heat 32 attempt.... My screaming "end already !" And even hand cramps

In tartarus and asphodel I like jury summons tho

[crimson skiff]

Nah man, I run 50 heat and both of these choices I never raise past 1.

Don't do that to yourself

[mint coral]

What

[tepid light]

Once again, I am reminded of just how different my heat preferences are compared to everyone else's

Oh hey, hi noob

[zenith spindle]

probably no difference

[tepid light]

Did you leave the server for a bit?

[mint coral]

Is this like em4/routine inspection or smth

[mint coral]

Ye

[glacial void]

Even jurry summon with benifit package +2 is brutal. But I didnt learn about how to "cheese" with stubborn defiance and how Patroclus makes it so much worth it

But I don't think I will be playing heat 32 a lot once I win the last weapon type I need to win with

[mint coral]

Bc you'll do 40 next? /j

[glacial void]

Hell no

[mint coral]

40 is comfy

[glacial void]

I wanted that horse of my back that I can hang in heat 32. But not all heat 32 setups are equal

I won't be able to win any runs with other settings as long as im not comfortable with beating the bosses without messing up. Especially on fo 20%

[crimson skiff]

You'll be doing 40 heat in no time! (and abandon these Summons and Calisthenics too :D)

I'm currently trying 50, but I cannot for the love of god get myself to use that "Fewer boons to choose from" option

[glacial void]

i kinda miss read some stuff about the guides but heres my settings

[crimson skiff]

I hate it with a passion

[mint coral]

Learn em4 then

Or you probably do like routine inspection stuff

[glacial void]

Em4 with 5 min timer ... Is too much rng. But I wanna learn em4 ... Or experience more. That part of why I wanna bring the heat down

[crimson skiff]

Honest to god, EM4 is not that bad.

On high heat, Redacted phase 1 is the worst of the bunch.

The Ads can complicate the battle too much.

[mint coral]

The fun of em4 is that you keep a stronger build for the harder fight thanks to no ap/ri

[mint coral]

Tfw my acorn gets deleted by B.ball/sneak combo

[vernal jungle]

zeus is technically the youngest of the big 6

[crimson skiff]

Oh yeah. B. Ball can f*** up a run in a jiffie.

[vernal jungle]

he popped out and cut his siblings out of cronos

they probably took creative liberties in mixing up how old the gods are portrayed

who knows maybe poseidon just likes manifesting himself as the good-hearted uncle

[glacial void]

oh I cant post images

I will type it then

[vernal jungle]

hades is the eldest of the big 3

[mint coral]

Send to another discord and copy the img link

[crimson skiff]

You can post it on "victory boastin" or high heat strategies

[vernal jungle]

demeter is above him and then hestia

which explains granny hestia in 2

[glacial void]

hard labor 80%
Lasting consequences 100%
extreme measures 3
benifite packages +2 ( I hate it with all my heart )
Middle Management
Underworld Customs ( I kinda learn to like this one)
Forced Overtime +20%
Tight Deadline 5:00

if I didnt write it. it not active for brievety sake

[vernal jungle]

when would you guys recommend to start doing more heat

i deliberately avoid stuff that affects my health bar right now but even then the base game's tough

[glacial void]

@crimson skiff

[vernal jungle]

I can't comfortably beat hades without acorn

[mint coral]

Fwiw you aren't unequipping acorn soon anyways lol

That thing is just really good

[glacial void]

Acorn is the best when you get a lot of hard laborb period. aside if you need to force a build in tatarus or asphodel imo

[vernal jungle]

i wanna farm the other keepsakes to max first

[glacial void]

what heat do you usually play. just do more fun runs with some of the settings you wish to learn to adapt

and level them up

[vernal jungle]

i just finished the main quest

[glacial void]

so did you do heat 8 ?

[vernal jungle]

tbf i had to delete a corrupted save that was 15 hours in

no the highest was heat 2

[glacial void]

that sucks

[vernal jungle]

i don't have the balls to up enemy damage

[crimson skiff]

That's a good setup @glacial void

[glacial void]

oh... well im not an expert .. but try extreme measure 1 and 2

[vernal jungle]

i wanna learn alecto first

i can no-hit the other 2 easily i just play careless

[glacial void]

yeah but I kinda feel cheesy since I need patty to bless the W with most weapons

[crimson skiff]

Patty?

[vernal jungle]

patroclus

[glacial void]

Patroclus

[vernal jungle]

i think

[crimson skiff]

Ah I see.

[vernal jungle]

manwife

[crimson skiff]

Well, it's just about getting a build you're into. Honestly, I'd pump Forced Overtime to the max.

[glacial void]

Praise be patty, saver of runs with DD, blesser of runs with Stuborn defiance

[crimson skiff]

Once you get accostumed, the game feels much easier on any other mode.

[vernal jungle]

nah my exagryph runs frequently hit the 30s

[crimson skiff]

What's your favorite weapon setups?

[vernal jungle]

most of my runs are between 25 mins

[crimson skiff]

What're*

[vernal jungle]

my first hades spear run went sub 20

got the triple dash-strike with a crit build and steamrolled dad

i haven't tried much else

chiron feels ok? hera is cool

sword plays the same for all 3

[glacial void]

You should check in the pins banana guide, not for the heat settings ( not like follow it to a thee) but they goes over builds and hammer and what to bluid for and what not

[mint coral]

There's also #h1-builds-and-combat pins for more builds

[vernal jungle]

zeus aspect is finicky i don't think i'm using it well

[glacial void]

personally that one reasons why I will play with some of the heat down or at least no timer. I love getting by with a sloppy or creative build and not get dps check

[vernal jungle]

chaos aspect plays the same as base in my opinion

and i hate fists

[crimson skiff]

Oh I love me some Demeter Fists

[vernal jungle]

i like the spear and bow

i did try demeter's aspect but i'm confused

how much does the boost affect your upper

[crimson skiff]

A LOT.

[vernal jungle]

also i just didn't do the hades fight because it was the 10th win

[glacial void]

Fist are fun, but you need to be aware of ennemies positioning and what they do. Hades gets very mashy spam but there is ways to do it smart

[vernal jungle]

so no final dps check

[keen hollow]

hey guys, how do i dodge the one shot thing from phase 2 chrono?

[vernal jungle]

yeah i like ranged weapons since they let me play smart

[crimson skiff]

I mean, fists I usually go the Merciful End route, and Demeter with Athena Special carries the run up to that point.

[vernal jungle]

wrong chat

[mint coral]

Charged upper can do some heavy dmg yeah
Especially with explosive upper

[vernal jungle]

i went zeus/poseidon dual boon that run

[vernal jungle]

what does merciful end do

[glacial void]

personally zeus on atk for fist, divine dash or passion dash or drunken dash or tidal dash can go hard

and if you level demeter fist... the charged upper cut with aphro or athena goes dummy good

[mint coral]

Your doom effects are instantly procced by deflect abilities

[glacial void]

but it always more risky to play fist

[vernal jungle]

what

[crimson skiff]

Merciful End is a duo Boon with Ares and Athena, which instantly procs any Doom effects.

[vernal jungle]

ok i haven't gotten that one yet

i don't take ares much

[crimson skiff]

So you get Ares Attack on fist, Athena Special (to unlock the duo boon) and Dash.

So any Hit > Dash becomes a doom proc

So you just zip around punching and dashing.

It's probably the single combination where Hermes extra dashes deal more damage than Rush Delivery

[glacial void]

Ares on it own is more of a caster build or bonus boon or heh whatever I will put it on my slow move that dont do a lot of dmg

But I wish ares would just go away a lot of time

[vernal jungle]

i pick him with shield/bow/spear for special doom

[glacial void]

Zeus... plz !! comback... Ares ... leave me alone bro

[vernal jungle]

since i don't use special that much on those weapons

unless chiron

[glacial void]

me with the aspect of Zeus yesterday

[vernal jungle]

or the other aspects

i got the message that aspect of zeus was strong from the first 64 heat run video

or am i referring to the wrong one

it is the spinning shield right

[mint coral]

Yeah zeus shield strong

[crimson skiff]

Yes.

Beowulf freaking slaps tho.

Beo with Dyo

chefs kiss

[glacial void]

Yeah aspect of zeus is one of the strongest that aspects that isnt pure range

[vernal jungle]

i saw a vid of that build taking half of theseus' health off in one bull rush

[mint coral]

That's just the average beo build

[crimson skiff]

Oh that's the usual, Beo is a monster.

[vernal jungle]

💀

also is it me or does charon seem not as difficult as they make him

[glacial void]

the thing with aspect of zeus is you can play more safe if you know how to exploid it a little. sometimes I recall it will Asterius or Hades run after me and just evade them

[mint coral]

What double mirage shot dmg does to a weapon

[crimson skiff]

If you get the Artemis/Poseidon duo, and a good amount of extra casts, you delete pretty much anything.

[mint coral]

Yeah he's not

Charon difficulty comes from barely being able to practice

[rustic vale]

Charons main source of difficulty is inexperience

[vernal jungle]

i never got that duo on a build that required casts

[mint coral]

And also depends on where you fight him

[vernal jungle]

i'm learning him way quicker than hades

[rustic vale]

along wirh the fact you can fight him in tart

[crimson skiff]

Charon in Tartarus is the strongest boss in this game. kk

[vernal jungle]

my most recent fight was in tartarus with demeter fists and i beat him with 2 lives remaining on attempt 2 of the fight

[glacial void]

charon in tartarus ... is a big flex

[vernal jungle]

the oar is the terrifying part i think

[rustic vale]

I always take charon if I see him in tart unless I’m going for speed

[glacial void]

bro ... I just tried to imagine charon's fight with forced overtime 40% ....

my mind is noping out of it

[rustic vale]

It’s not that crazy

If you get practice in

[crimson skiff]

Which heat tho.

Charon with Hard Labor can hit for over 50 health @_@.

Forced overtime 2 and it becomes VERY DIFFICULT.

[rustic vale]

But it is a lot easier to lose

[rustic vale]

Like 32 or 40

those are the main 2 heats I play atm

[mint coral]

Just rip off the bandaid and go for fo2 tbh

Non FO will feel weirder at some point

[glacial void]

in tartarus getting hit for 50 is like getting hard boilled by hades and get hit by his strongest move

[crimson skiff]

Haven't tried it at 40 I think?

I don't take Charons with Tight deadline at 5 min.

[rustic vale]

I take him it’s just usually meg becomes a buzzer beater then

[mint coral]

I've done charon at 32 mostly

leaves tart with like 30 seconds

[glacial void]

I think Charon should be a freeze timer fight. especially for the risk

[rustic vale]

Lemme see when my last 32 or 40 with card was

[crystal idol]

what do u think about difficulty of 2 part. What was the intention to make souls like game but not because of 100 boss patterns but making last boss dmg sponge with +-30 dmg per hit

[glacial void]

unless ur dps is so overly insane and ur up in time... in elysium ... I cant see it being worth with 5 min timer

[mint coral]

Do you mean dad's 2nd phase

[glacial void]

like in tatarus it literally throwing the run for 99% of the player base

[mint coral]

The fun of tart charon is that if you die well, is just tart

[rustic vale]

It’s… also tartarus

[crimson skiff]

For sure. Unless you have a setup that starts off strong.

[mint coral]

If you don't you benefit from the discount the most

[rustic vale]

“Oh no I’m throwing the run” my brother in Christ it’s tartarus it isn’t a run at this point

[crystal idol]

if i spoiled myself last boss avg dmg per run, and how player scale herself that would be 300% refund of the game

[rustic vale]

StickyBot doing Gods work 🫡

[crimson skiff]

My brother in Zeus*

[glacial void]

yeah thats why 99% implies. I imagine if your craked at the game and that fight it might bless ur run. but most peoples who tries to win the run will just get demolish or time out

[rustic vale]

I mean yes I’m coming at this from the angle of me

But let me just say that you can take it, you maximise benefit and minimise loss if you go into tartarus because you have everything to gain and a barely started run to lose.

[glacial void]

well it depends if I get like epic jolted, and at least 150 or better by the point im at charon. I dont wanna throw a strong start.

[rustic vale]

Lose like what 2 minutes? 3 minutes? You can just head into another run

[glacial void]

or you could be a fool like me and have none hard labor habits and throw a garantee heat 32 shield win on hades at 20-30% hp in phase 2 at 323 hp and be like. ok it over, lets rush him down and win this... and one second latter... ur 300hp is gone and realize it you dying and not hades

🙃

I was both shook and amaze ... like a pure mix of feeling destroy inside but also ... such a funny throw that I cant be mad.

[rustic vale]

yeah sometime it happens

[glacial void]

But I will admit I that learning charon is something I should do. more

[oak olive]

The bow?

[glacial void]

yeah... just a none hard labor habit I autopiloted 🤣

[oak olive]

That bow is op

[glacial void]

the boss fight

[oak olive]

Whos Charon

[mint coral]

Shop dude

Bow is chiron

[oak olive]

Oh

[rustic vale]

Chiron is… one of the bow aspects for sure

We are talking about Charon, mr. Shopkeep rn

[glacial void]

but yeah I still wanna go back to hades 2 as well. At first I booted up Hades 1 just because I was feeling sad and upset and wanted to do a low heat run or 0 just to bully stuff.. but then I remember the feeling of never getting an other heat 32 and feeling like I cheesed the only one I got

got bodied for a day. and yesterday got my second one with aspect of nemesis and jumping of my couch

[rustic vale]

I mean yeah but it also removes like a big aspect of what td disables

td stops you from just kiting everything endlessly

until they’re dead

You’d essentially be able to go into Charon with 0 risk after a certain point

[glacial void]

well unless ur pretty good, I can see it being the case. Personally I just dont like timer much because I acknowledge that it remove cheesing stuff with kiting, but I hate when sometimes Rng make me have to play ultra risky.

Also I like to just take a breather after rooms

but I came to appreciate more then before the layer of strategies it forces you to do

[rustic vale]

I agree but accomplishments like 64 heat or igt speedruns would be a lot less fun/significant if 22% of the time you just got a huge jump in free obols, a discount for the rest of the run, and a free room for nothing

[proud pilot]

are duo boons locked by progression in hade?

[glacial void]

yeah I guess so. but at the same time it leaves you more and more at rng mercy. Hades was my 2 or 3 rogue like but the first one I took seriously and played a tone. What I loved about it is how much choice and control you have and how much rewarded you are for learning things about the game

[proud pilot]

?

[mint coral]

Nah

[glacial void]

Like having a decent run and getting fast blue heart spam shield dudes rooms is like ... .whyyyyyyy ...

[mint coral]

It is easier to get them with upgrades ofc but even run 1 can get them

[glacial void]

also ... heres some mini chariots

[rustic vale]

That’s the other half of it

64 heat and speedrunning is grindy as is

Add in another huge rng factor that could swing your run

[glacial void]

yeah, you gotta be pasionate about the game and have healty hands enough

and lots of patiences

[rustic vale]

Speedrunning is like the opposite of patience.

Lemme finish Hades as fast as possible

[old bluff]

Speedrunning hades is either super rewarding or completely awful

[glacial void]

That why I hate aproval processe. also the game get to tease you with what you could have had. like it mental damage on top of it lol

especially when you get a duo boon or legendary, because you hear the sound and ur like ! Oh !! Good stuff ! .... oh... pain

[old frost]

I just bought Hades I :3

ok- but I am talking about Hades I

[glacial void]

[old frost]

[rustic vale]

It’s just periodically sent to remind those

who

[glacial void]

dont worry it just keep like spamming to remind peoples

[old frost]

ah, same thing happened in Hades II actually
I was in Hades II chat rn saying I bought the game and the chat was so active for an year or so old game I was confused until they told "the game is 6 days old" and then I realised I am in wrong chat 💀

[rustic vale]

In 6 days wrong channel has been said 26 times

and that’s just that specific phrasing of it

[glacial void]

someone actually posted sort of a spoiler in boasting yesterday. cant tell if it was accident or being a smarty pants.

[old frost]

damn

[glacial void]

but I already had that thing reward spoiled thanks to the sub reddit not titling stuff right and thinking I though it was something else. I muted it lol

[rustic vale]

I just avoid the Hades subreddit because it’s the Hades subreddit

[old frost]

I just avoid Reddit.

[rustic vale]

That too

I never use it

But I see links to Hades reddit posts every so often and always see the most room temp iq

[glacial void]

why is it thay the first months of a subreddit of an indie game I like is like so good. and when I comeback ... it just thirsty peoples, peoples making overfocusing on why they love the inclusive aspects of the game more then the game itself of fan art

but right now it a landmine for hades 2

[rustic vale]

Because reddit is just

[mint coral]

Fan art is always cuz at some point you kinda discussed everything

And it sucks for "what do I pick" post (not that it stops people from posting that lmao)

[glacial void]

yea, make sense

[old frost]

Ah, I searched up r/HadesTheGame rn, I am not doing that, ever again

[oak olive]

Who make this stupid bot

[mint coral]

When I browse the subreddit I just go through New instead lol

Is nicer

[rustic vale]

It’s doing God’s work

[glacial void]

I kinda like reddit to read about new manga chapters comments and stuff and theories or memes. or usually when I google something I often put reddit now when I need to look opinions or some informations because google is now a cancer of billion of promoted articles with click bait article that takes forever to get to the point

[rustic vale]

Reddit isn’t much better for opinions

[rustic vale]

It doesn’t help that half the people that are responding are saying the most out of whack opinions and “builds” in the world

[mint coral]

True

[glacial void]

just dont... it probably filled it spoilers. peoples complaining about certain designe... peoples wanting hades 2 to feel more like 1. peoples complaining about the game needing a nerf but barely have any good meta progression or peoples complaining about the peoples complaining about the game being "woke" or loving it for it

[old frost]

Well someone said "the game was lowkey inclusive and horniest" so whatever that means, I didn't ever expect to see those things in one sentence ever

so that was a surprise

[raw herald]

I’ve unsubscribed from the subreddit

[glacial void]

I mean I dont have a good example but like when you wanna search for something, it kinda is better to like gather infos and then go for more accurate search after

im being broad because I lack of a good example atm

[old frost]

It's good when I want to search for product reviews

"is <this PC part> good ? reddit"

[brisk trail]

i saw homophobic comments it broked my heart

[glacial void]

God I dislike when peoples focus on that stuff like it's super important. love or hate sides... it a video game not ur identity or agenda. But hades 1 was the best game about inclusivity without making you feel like it shove down ur throat. it felt "organic" and just a part of the game

[old frost]

Kinda expected from Reddit at this point

[weary lotus]

Man, Greek mythology is full of the gayest stuff imaginable sometimes

[raw herald]

That’s the thing about setting up a platform such that anyone can share their opinions

[weary lotus]

It'd be weird if this game didn't have some of it

[old frost]

that's why Greek best fr fr :3

[glacial void]

I expect that behavior from steam forums or 4 chan... thats why I never go there ... sometimes steam forums to see like thecnical infos or fixs

[old frost]

I kinda like steam forums, 4chan obv no

[weary lotus]

This channel (and category) is for discussing the first Hades game. Please go to #h2-discussion to talk about Hades II.

[old frost]

The vibes on steam forum are just so "Gamerish" (idk if that's a word) I enjoy it

[weary lotus]

Just so everyone knows

[glacial void]

Steam forums is like a trip back into 2009

[old frost]

This channel (and category) is for discussing the first Hades game. Please go to ⁠hades2-discussion to talk about Hades II.

[weary lotus]

Yeah, Norse mythology has some real funky gender stuff too with Loki and Thor

[mint coral]

Gamers™

[rustic vale]

Anubis the videogame when?

I wanna summon crocodiles or frogs with my boons

[old frost]

Gamers are the most oppressed minority in all of America. 😔

[weary lotus]

Honestly, it'd be cool if Hades branched off a bit into some Egyptian mythology

[glacial void]

Like I dont give a damn if you make greek mythical/fictionnal character black or asians etc... as long has the design fits what they're about.

It would be an other thing if you claim to make like an historical war game and put stuff there that dosent belong... just for the sake of it.

but like its fictional characters ... who cares

[rustic vale]

The designs in Hades are all on point for their characters idk about Hades II

[oak olive]

Everyone is like in steroid

[weary lotus]

And it'd fit with some of the historical Greek-Egyptian syncretism

[glacial void]

there is one character clothing style im like ... nah bruh.. ur trying too hard. but yeah for now the designe isnt has good

but imma stop there because spoilers to elaborate

[weary lotus]

In Hades 2, or 1?

[glacial void]

2

[old frost]

Hmm, I think Doom community is the best gaming community in my experience. All the other gaming communities I see on internet and even Hades seems to have some issues ig
Doom is truly the best community I have seen in gaming

[glacial void]

I was replying to shackles but forgot to do the reply thing

[glacial void]

doom is about gameplay and killing monster. so thats part of it

[weary lotus]

Ah ok. I do think Artemis's clothing is a bit weird, personally

I do mean Hades 1, as well

[old frost]

I mean the community though, the community surrounding Doom is a group of people that's unironically the most wholesome and encouraging group of people I have seen (Discord official community)

[weary lotus]

But other than her, the clothing for every god or character seemed fitting

[glacial void]

Like im hetero... at first I didnt want to let Zag have a relationship with than because I dont accosiate with that. But the way their dialogue where building up I was like ... awwwn I cant do it to him. nevermind I dont care

[glacial void]

I though the doom community with be more sweat lord ish ... huh im surprise

[weary lotus]

Most wholesome game community I know is DRG

This one seems fairly chill, at least on here

[old frost]

nah, when I got into Doom eternal, I was literally at stage where I was even scared to walk on first level but man, when I told them I was on lowest difficulty and still kinda scared, they genuinely helped and appreciated me enjoying at difficulty I found comfortable and gave me tips to get good at game and are actually very wholesome

even I was very surprised cus I thought I was gonna get made fun of yeah

[old frost]

DRG ?

[glacial void]

that's wholesome.

[weary lotus]

Deep Rock Galactic. Rock and Stone

[weary lotus]

Yeah it's nice when the Internet is wholesome for once

[old frost]

Yeahhh, it was sooo kind hearted also, given that my achievements were much more unskilled cus of me being new, most of them encouraged every single achievement I got regardless of its trivial nature and not even 100 hours into the game I got one of the most significant achievements in the game (not the UN gold skin obv but I got Phobos)

[glacial void]

Well the souls community CAN be like that(sometimes) if you word it like that. and not " the game is way too hard. I hate this" so sometimes it just a matter of admitting the skill issues or wording it right

[old frost]

yeah, I think Discord in general is a very nice platform compared to other social media I have been on, like Discord version of Hades community seems much nicer than Reddit

[charred bramble]

rockity rock and stone!

[old frost]

Doom community will be like that too yeah given well a lot of game journalism stuff that happened when game came out but if u try to get good at it slowly admitting where u r at start and losing and asking for help, I think the community will help you a lot

[old bluff]

The Hades Speedcord is actually super chill

[old frost]

I should look into Hades modding, game modding is always exciting

[glacial void]

it depends ... like games like doom or hades or mh have or more mixed aged group. But when smash ultimate came out... has someone who was around 30 ... it was one of my worst experiences ever.

[pliant scaffold]

About the design and else... I am a bit of a classicist, and I find the design in Hades I & II really astonishing in details, creativity, overall style and consistency. Also, I like how some key elements from the myth are injected in the design of each character and area. My mythology teacher said, once, that the myth is resonating with people and culture in many ways, and thus each one of us have a specific way to live it that it is never the same. Iteration and adaptation have always been the key of success of this specific kind of ancient myth.
Aside from that, I read about all the controversies, especially the comparison between Aphrodite and the main character of Stellar Blade. These comparisons lacks a basic understanding of design and aesthetic theories, but also don't fit in the same context. It is a tentative to weaponize representation in a way that fits certain extremist views. Inclusivity and boldness have always been some of the main traits of the art direction of Hades, contextually with the myth they refer on and with the specific concept of the developers and designers.

[glacial void]

yeah, so if a game is like too tedious or became too tedious that you dont enjoy it anymore it also fine. but telling it to peoples is where it will go wrong. I kinda burned out of Cuphead and im like 3 stages away from the end

[weary lotus]

There's some nice QOL mods out there. Look on the nexus page. You'd want to look into the Hades mod importer. I'd recommend avoiding mods until you've beat your first run, at least. Not sure how far you are

[old frost]

well as for how far- I just bought the game, literally like few mins ago, I am setting up playnite rn before actually downloading the game
So..... 0 ?

[weary lotus]

Ah ok, yeah the vanilla game is perfectly fine without mods. I'd use a controller or figure out the keyboard controls

You definitely want to get the controls tuned to your preference first thing

[old frost]

yeah, changing keybindings is something I do early in every game

[glacial void]

A thing I wish I could have as an option in hades is making the companions call a double tap. I wasted so many calls with me being tense and accidentally putting pressure on the trigger button

[weary lotus]

I put dash on the R1 button, instead of on circle, or whatever it is

Cause you'll be dashing and attacking at the same time very often

[old bluff]

I would say that the only button that really needs to be rebinded is reload and on certain weapons cast

[mint coral]

I have summon on a face button for that lmao

[glacial void]

my button layout is diffent since i use a pro controller but with steam it work as a xbox controller and you have options to make the the switch to mach buttons options

so if ur playing with an xbox controller

[weary lotus]

If you have an issue with the X and O button (or Xbox equivalent) being swapped, rebind everything in the Steam overlay

[glacial void]

my atk button would be ur Y button and my dash would be ur B button

they fixed it in hades two actually match the physical intended emplacement. but even tho it dosent play the exact same... the muscle memory wouldnt just have it

so I remapped it to fit what I knew about hades 1 lol

[weary lotus]

I couldn't imagine dash being a button. Has to be R1 for me

[old frost]

I use keyboard

is this one of those games where default keyboard layouts are horrible ? I remember celeste literally has default keyboard layout of movement keys and c for some reason to start the game and people get stuck on that screen for hours

[glacial void]

honestly im thinking about it ... r1 is better because of less time between special and cast. although cast I can manage by just tilting my thumb if I really want to be more efficient for cast

[weary lotus]

What's best is setting a key binding that's comfy for you, and getting muscle memory for it

[glacial void]

I was thinking about it because spoilers spoilers. but I really dont want to relearn muscles memory on such an important move

I might do it, if multibinding was possible and put interactions on R3

like having both buttons. I had that in smash ult for jump on L bumper

This channel (and category) is for discussing the first Hades game. Please go to ⁠hades2-discussion to talk about Hades II.

[weary lotus]

This channel (and category) is for discussing the first Hades game. Please go to #h2-discussion to talk about Hades II.

[old frost]

This channel (and category) is for discussing the first Hades game. Please go to ⁠hades2-discussion to talk about Hades II.