#h1-discussion

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rustic vale
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So there are 6 hammers that could show up and hoarding would be a better grab

upper wolf
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I love world splitter on high heat zagsword

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Is it better than dedge ? Probably still not, tbh

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But It's fun, and still pretty good

rustic vale
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“Probably not” literaly never

marsh lily
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i like the achilles spear but sometimes i feel like it forces you into a attack pattern that gets boring after like the 3rd run

drowsy linden
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flursed zagsword is cool

upper wolf
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I feel like cursed would slash too much HP with HL5 FO2

rustic vale
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cursed just

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Isn’t worth it

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And world splitter just doesn’t outperform regular dash strikes

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So dedge is better

mint coral
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cursed slash route is still one of my fav things

rustic vale
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With HL5 I think cursed takes your hp so low that you may as well be in oneshot territory 24/7

mint coral
rustic vale
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I’m just waiting for the

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To get this in an actual run

upper wolf
drowsy linden
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the other upsides are:
locking flurry and thrust
being used for anvil

rustic vale
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You have the issue of it being world splitter

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is world splitter legitimately used for high heat?

upper wolf
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... depends on if I'm legit or not x)

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but fr world splitter is really not bad on zagsword

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it's less DPS but safer than dedge

loud dagger
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Hello, this is mostly for curiosity sake, but is there any resource for describing how mechanics, gods, etc. unlock throughout the game? I know most of it is unveiled within the first few runs, but I've been curious how exactly both mechanic progression and story progression works in Hades' early game. For instance, things like hammers, nectar, and gemstones (and I think Hermes) not appearing in your first run. Or the call mechanic not unlocking until the third round or so. Likewise on the house of hades side, things like the lounge unlocking.

jagged hamlet
stone rune
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i was just informed that acorn is useless on high heat

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thanks reddit

karmic mason
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keep it clean
So, like, can I swear?

jagged hamlet
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No. Dyno Bot will eat your liver

karmic mason
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I'm actually not allowed to swear?

jagged hamlet
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You can if you don't like your liver

karmic mason
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oh well that kinda goes against the whole reason I joined this server

void vigil
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😟

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No livers being eaten

stone rune
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did u join the hades server to list the curse words you know

void vigil
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But yes, swearing is not allowed - it’s easy to get used to IMO

stone rune
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noe

jagged hamlet
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Swearing's back on the menu!

void vigil
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Have mercy I just woke up

karmic mason
void vigil
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Autocorrect be damned…

karmic mason
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Not being allowed to swear kneecaps my ability to speak my mind on theseus

stone rune
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you’ll figure the fight out eventually

karmic mason
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Hades is not the final boss of Hades
It's Theseus

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I can deal with the minotaur, I have zero issues with him
Theseus? I want to strangle the life out of him

stone rune
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this is how heroes ends up after a little while

karmic mason
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oh so that's what heat 8 unlocks

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I see

stone rune
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?

karmic mason
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wtf is that meg

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Is there a mod where theseus explodes

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As he's postulating and blubbering I want him to just combust

stone rune
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“Believe what you want, I’ve got almost 300 hours in the game. It says more about your skill level that you think a keepsake that helps you if you miss your dodge is “game breaking”.”

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thanks reddit

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this is about acorn btw

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redditors are so funny

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“i have 300 hours, that means im good right”

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“my opinion is correct because i state it arrogantly”

jagged hamlet
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"jazz bad"
- /r/Hades

karmic mason
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Only good keepsake is the broken spear tip because holy hell the butterfly ball is a game ender if you position yourself wrong

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I legitimately joined this server to scream about Theseus that's literally the entire reason

jagged hamlet
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Are you using the pillars around the arena as cover from Theseus's hecklespears?

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Also, supposedly the pink crosshairs on you grow brighter right when he throws

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If you can keep an eye on it, it ain't bad for timing dashes

karmic mason
karmic mason
jagged hamlet
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Right right. You wanna drag Asterius with you and pummel him while under cover from Theseus

karmic mason
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Not at all what I do

jagged hamlet
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Yeah. According to the good players, you wanna use your dashes very purposefully to dash-strike when opportune or to reposition

karmic mason
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I full on bludgeon thesus's skull in first

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Get the Olympians out of the fight immediately

jagged hamlet
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Oh. Most people find focusing down and killing Asterius first to be much easier

stiff obsidian
stone rune
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Grue

karmic mason
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wow okay so it's like that then

karmic mason
jagged hamlet
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Right. Hence putting a pillar between him and yourself

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I suddenly have a great need for a smug Theseus emote

mint coral
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Practice with the archers on how to dodge the spear

karmic mason
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Post pics of theseus dead

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Post pics of his body

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stupid king of nothing

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I hate him SO MUCH

tepid light
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Late response but if only hoarding slash increased your damage based on the total amount of money you've collected over the run

Rather than just the money you have on hand

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That would make it a lot better

latent moon
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to be fair

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a lot of things can be done to make hoarding slash better lmao

tepid light
latent moon
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i mean a bigger % might help lol

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and having it affect damage before the crit or affecting base damage

tepid light
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i feel like having a bigger % would only exacerbate the current issue in that you have to hoard your money and not spend it in order to get mileage out of the upgrade

if it gave you a bonus based on total gold earned, it would keep the intended schtick without hamstringing your gameplay

rustic vale
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Yes that’s solid reasoning but it’s also Hoarding Slash

tepid light
rustic vale
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I think the hammer could be altered in a few other ways to make it work

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although my own idea of making it base damage would possibly be degen for dedge speedrunning

tepid light
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I know this is not what you meant but imagine if it was "your sword base damage is your current gold amount"

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The memes that would ensue

latent moon
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i mean if the % was bigger, not spending the money might actually be worth it sometimes lmao

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depending on the build you try for at least

stiff obsidian
rustic vale
tepid light
stiff obsidian
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Suggest it in modding server ig

latent moon
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like if you were going for a flat damage soup build, then saving money for hoarding slash would be weak

tepid light
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take coin purse with that hoarding slash

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and you just win the run

latent moon
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but if you were like doing a crit build on nem and got good boons early then hoarding slash wouldn't the that bad

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assuming that it affected damage before the crit too

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to be completely fair, a bigger % can solve a lot of problems lmao

tepid light
latent moon
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maybe

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well probably at least

rustic vale
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where is Nyaanyaas monthly challenge submissions spreadhseet

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I’ll gonfind it

latent moon
tepid light
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I'm glad my random thought is already gaining so much traction aha

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Lemme know what people think

stone rune
latent moon
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i mean her stuff is still pinned

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probably at least

stone rune
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does anyone else monitor those

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oh

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screenshot that already exists

rustic vale
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Not Nyaanyaa herself

stone rune
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thought u meant submitting something new

latent moon
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i think shackle was there when she got banned

rustic vale
stone rune
rustic vale
stone rune
rustic vale
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It’s because I stole it off Nyaanyaas spreadsheet

stone rune
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there u go

tepid light
rustic vale
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Because I couldn’t find my own link

latent moon
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god hoarding slash is only 5%??

rustic vale
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I knew it was on the spreadsheet because y’know I submitted it

latent moon
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jesus christ

stone rune
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yep

latent moon
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i thought it was 15%

rustic vale
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15% would make it in the actually useable section

stone rune
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thats goldent ouch

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isnt it

latent moon
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probably

rustic vale
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Yeah

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Yes

latent moon
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i dont care enough about either to know the numbers

latent moon
rustic vale
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Uhhh

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I mean

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Eh

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You could maybe end up with piercing wave without the range is what I’m saying

latent moon
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well 15% of 3700 is 555 extra damage so i suppose

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but also uh

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is 3.7k gold realistic in most runs

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i guess if like your main focus is getting gold then maybe but idk

rustic vale
latent moon
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lmao sure i guess

rustic vale
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which iirc

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Is the goal for the bonus milestone on the January monthly

latent moon
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this is like rta strat bait

rustic vale
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zagpls it’s actually 5220

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I’m crazy

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3142 is the first

rustic vale
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Who needs wasted time buying boons when speed

latent moon
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on the other hand

rustic vale
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thnx hoarding slash for saving me time and obols

latent moon
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you'd need to get hoarding for your second hammer

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idk if you're aiming to get like a good build on sword then you're def not gonna care about your gold count lmao

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hearts are better than gold for rta i think but i could be wrong on that

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i remember some mention of slow gold drops

rustic vale
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I mean

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Slow golds don’t matter when more obols is time save

latent moon
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yeah only when you have like 3k lmao

rustic vale
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Idk man anything to hit those breakpoints faster

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speaking of

latent moon
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bro just get rd and tidal dash poms

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that's just the build

rustic vale
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I swear Theseus just didn’t have a breakpoint this one time I fought him recently

latent moon
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smack him more

rustic vale
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I was waiting for Asterius bubble to drop and realise Theseus was gone

latent moon
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oh lmao did you skip the slow mo phase

rustic vale
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I actually took a screen recording

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Apparently Meg missed Asterius

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And then Theseus absolutely got shredded by a dio call

latent moon
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oh lmao nice

rustic vale
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sorry

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So Theseus absolutely just died in like 5 seconds and then I had to actually deal damage to Asteirus

latent moon
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happens

steep condor
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why is the voice acting and music so good in this game. zagreus commenting exactly what i am thinking all the time but sounding like a bad ass. that bass in asphodel! crying

upper wolf
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Well, it is done by the same people so maybe that's why xD

winter plaza
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had a run where the only god offered to me was Aphrodite

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pain

upper wolf
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I mean, if it was hestia it's ok lol

jagged hamlet
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The accents are a bit suspect (if I can tell, then they're off zaglol), but oh my goodness the dialogues and prose in general are so, so fun

steep condor
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fun but also meaningful and seeming like it's pulled off effortlessly but must have been so much work

rustic vale
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Every voice is perfect

steep condor
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also the mechanics to make everything make sense no matter how far you've progressed in other areas

void vigil
rustic vale
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🗣️🗣️🗣️

winter plaza
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i had to barrel stuff em theseus

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true pain

stone rune
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that is also fine

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aph cast is best in slot on hera

winter plaza
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ye but also like

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only aphro?

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never been a huge fan of any of her boons tbh

rustic vale
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Aside from every other weapon with one of her cores on attack/special with zeus call

winter plaza
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ye i realized that when i had nearly all of her boons that maybe she wasn't so awful

rustic vale
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Hera gives crush shot the range to use that huge base damage

winter plaza
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she's got some okay t2

rustic vale
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T2 isn’t even like the biggest deal for aphro

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It’s purely that huge +% and weak

winter plaza
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i had her legendary in that run too

rustic vale
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and then she has nice duos with zeus and dio

winter plaza
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felt quite nice laughing in Hades' face as he just

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stood there

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like an idiot

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a bit odd to charm your own father, i must say

rustic vale
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Puppy dog eyes him

winter plaza
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something like that, yeah

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she's decent

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im still gonna be a gremlin with Artemis but like

rustic vale
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She has a lot of good use cases

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her big +% on attack and special gives her a lot of room everywhere

winter plaza
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it does

rustic vale
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Throw in like

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why am I missing the names

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Heart rend on nem and zag bow, low tolerance on so many weapons, and smouldering air on every weapon

winter plaza
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ye i noticed those were fairly good

rustic vale
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Especially smouldering air where it slots in just fine on every weapon in the game

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You just need a good dps call like zeus or dio, and zeus already opens it up anyways

winter plaza
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zeus call is my go-to if i can get it just cause it's absurd

stone rune
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proud bearing:

rustic vale
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Thank you vet

stone rune
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smair is pb at home

rustic vale
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For the insight

stone rune
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im just saying

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smair kinda fake

winter plaza
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bouldy best character

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confirmed

stone rune
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peeber kinda real

tepid light
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winners don't do smoldering air

stone rune
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winners do smair with dad call

tepid light
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winners don't do smoldering air

rustic vale
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Winners use smair

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not smoldering air

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Big difference

tepid light
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smair makes me smadge

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how about that

rustic vale
stiff obsidian
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Winning makes me win

rustic vale
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Hi L50 DDash

tepid light
stone rune
silk stone
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how do i get asterius to be alone so i can 1 on 1 him

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does extreme measures increase the chances of this?

stone rune
silk stone
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what

stiff obsidian
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Miniboss

silk stone
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................

void vigil
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iirc the door will also sparkle but i havent played in a bit

silk stone
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so much

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what is the hardest aspect to get in the game

rose roost
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like unlock?

lavish sorrel
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Any of the hidden aspects that aren't GY afaik

silk stone
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to unlock

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hardest secret aspect to unlock in the game

rose roost
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u don't have do much except talk to npcs and get the required dialogue

lavish sorrel
silk stone
rose roost
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which can be alot of rng to get so depends on ur luck

lavish sorrel
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(Also GY needs to be unlocked first before any other hidden aspects)

rose roost
upper wolf
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my guess would be gilga

silk stone
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oh

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after i got guan yu i started to try and get gilga

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and GUESS WHATT

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bruih

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😭

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i js got asterius' line where i can now get gilga

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gilga is gonna be my 2nd hidden aspect 😎

lavish sorrel
silk stone
lavish sorrel
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(The speedrun modpack - among other things - deletes the asterius miniboss from the videogame)

silk stone
mint coral
silk stone
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WOAHGH

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i get 4 dashes with gilga aspect?

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no way

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imagine gilga aspect with hermes dash 3+

lavish sorrel
mint coral
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Use the other side of the mirror with gilga, ruthless reflex

silk stone
lavish sorrel
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+50% dodge and damage for a few seconds after avoiding a hit

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Instead of +1 dash

silk stone
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oo

mint coral
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The window to proc it is super big

silk stone
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gilga is awesome

lavish sorrel
stiff obsidian
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I wouldn't wish that on anybody

upper wolf
mint coral
lavish sorrel
lavish sorrel
stiff obsidian
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Go 50

lavish sorrel
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Let alone dad

mint coral
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Do you play purely mono dash or is still a "hermes for the love of yourself give me greatest reflex"

lavish sorrel
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A bit of both

stiff obsidian
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I think habit

lavish sorrel
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So if I don't get +dashes it's fine and I play the game as I would usually, but whenever I do get +dashes I mainly use it for defense (have more leniency for avoiding enemy attacks)

stiff obsidian
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I don't get how some stuff is dodgable with one dash

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Like how do you avoid fury circles

lavish sorrel
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And dashing in the right direction

stiff obsidian
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I mean the meg ones

lavish sorrel
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Ik

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Yes, that's possible to dodge

stiff obsidian
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☹️

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On fo2 btw

lavish sorrel
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(Though I mostly just hope to encounter tis because she's the easiest to deal with despite how much time she eats)

stiff obsidian
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I find she takes less time

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Since you can actually deal more damage instead of running around

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Back to ri3 Eris mines

mint coral
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Praying so hazard doesn't show up again

lavish sorrel
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Hazard bomb eris wideCharon2

autumn root
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what does heat do?

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whats the difference between havin 1 heat and like 50 heat

void vigil
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Heat is a difficulty modifier, and there are a lot of modifiers you can choose from

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for example 1 heat could be things in the shop being more expensive, and 50 heat could mean no mirror perks, tougher enemies, less choices when it comes to boons, no ability to heal, etc etc all at once

autumn root
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so it just makes the game more difficult

void vigil
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Yes

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You also get resources when you go up in heat until you reach 20, one clear at a time

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After that it’s just for fun

autumn root
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oh ok imma try it then thx

void vigil
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Good luck outisalute

last veldt
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Easiest first heat is probably Tight Deadline 1 or Extreme Measures 1

lavish sorrel
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EM1 kinda tricky as first heat (IMO tight deadline and convenience fee are a bit easier) but is free if you get past tartarus SeemsGood

desert tundra
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Good games corrupt you
Every time I try a different action roguelike now I just say to myself "Damn I wanna play some Hades rn"

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It scratches my itch like no other game so far

last veldt
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And EM1 gives some extra comedy dialogue the first few times.

lavish sorrel
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Hades dialogue is definitely top tier

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My only real complaints about the game are the existence of Styx and some of the hitboxes being weird (namely, the entirety of the heroes fight as well as dad phase 2 pot hitboxes sometimes lingering around for longer than the actual aoe is visible for)

opaque fable
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does the game generally not try to offer you replacement boons for your abilities

mint coral
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Is like a 10% chance

opaque fable
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how the hell am i at styx with hera bow posedion cast

royal bobcat
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so I've been playing this game for 100 hours and I am convinced there is something going on with these hitboxes, because from when I started to now, I have always felt like I have been hit by attacks I visually should not have been hit by. now, at first I thought I needed to get better at timing and distancing but I no longer agree with that idea. There's something going on with it, and it's not every hit, but when it is its like I have to be more than out of it to not get hit.

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I wanna say the attack I feel is the most BS is the wave attacks. any wave attack, C shaped or O shaped

covert hare
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If you attack while dashing you lose iframes

royal bobcat
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yeah, I knew there was something up.

royal bobcat
covert hare
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Just dash

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And after you dodge

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Attack

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Don’t spam attack all the time

karmic mason
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Am I bad or is the hidden aspect of the shield straight garbage

mint coral
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Skill issue sadly

karmic mason
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Bear in mind both can be true

mint coral
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Or build issue

karmic mason
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idk man the special on that aspect suuuuuucks

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I couldn't figure it out for the life of me

mint coral
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You don't use the special

karmic mason
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HUH

mint coral
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Unless you mean the cast loading

opaque fable
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zag keeps saying that the sack is "already here" or something along the lines, am i missing something here

karmic mason
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I never hit anything because I tried loading all blade rifts at once for massive damage and I ALWAYS miss

mint coral
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Remap the cast button so its comfortable for you to load while charginf the rush

karmic mason
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It's always slightly too far or it pierces enemies

mint coral
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Oh yeah is also a build issue

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Slicing flare sucks

karmic mason
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slicing flare?

mint coral
mint coral
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Bei converts all casts to flares

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Instead of a projectile they are AoE

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Anyways for builds you want poseidon or aphro's cast, mostly poseidon

karmic mason
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Oh damn you refer to boons by name

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Nah that's blade rift cast

mint coral
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From there just pom your cast and grab artemis to unlock their duo boon

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Mirage shot is bugged on beo

karmic mason
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I don't know boon names lmao

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Is mirage shot... Poseidon?

mint coral
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Artemis-poseidon duo

karmic mason
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Ah I see

mint coral
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Your cast creates a copy at 30% dmg of your og cast

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But on beo that 2nd cast does the full 100% dmg

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So once you get mirage your dmg is straight up doubled

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So
-start with poseidon keepsake and take his cast, use poms on it
-if no artemis in tartarus, take her keepsake into asphodel

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Ideally you take the attack from artemis but special/call also work

karmic mason
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OH MY GOD

mint coral
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From there just get their duo boon and done

karmic mason
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I literally just got this right now

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Wait can I talk spoilers is this like the Noita cord

mint coral
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Yeah

karmic mason
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Can I talk about final boss

mint coral
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This channel is fine

karmic mason
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Ballin

mint coral
karmic mason
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When Hades hits you with the skull and you get boiling blood the skulls are his cast

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I just got that right now

mint coral
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Oh yeah

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Just take care of the double dmg

karmic mason
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stupid dad with his stupid skull

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kill him on the mouth

mint coral
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If hammer offers charged shot take it instantly

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Is your best option by far

karmic mason
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Speaking of hidden aspects

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The spear

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Made me wanna die

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Holy hell

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"life stealing spinning blade"
it doesn't steal anything barely at all

mint coral
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And to scale any further the dmg
Visit chaos for +1 cast or cast dmg
Check charon wells for the same
From hermes take hyper sprint (dash gives movement speed) and rush delivery (extra dmg based on your movement speed)

karmic mason
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And in the time it takes to set up that spinning blade you take more damage than you recover

mint coral
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Oh yeah don't bother with the spin unless you have quick spin

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Or use it while enemies are spawning

opaque fable
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why is it that i always get arte leg when i'm not playing cast builds PepeHands

mint coral
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The sweet of hidden spear is the special

karmic mason
mint coral
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Get charged skewer and you have glass cannon hestia rail

karmic mason
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Moving faster gets me into more trouble than not because I move way faster than I'm expecting

covert hare
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Disappointed Hermes

mint coral
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If you want to feel more disoriented start buying ichors in charon wells

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Movement speed is multiplicative zaglol

karmic mason
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Okay that actually brings up a big question I have

mint coral
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Go on

covert hare
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Yes speed can stack

karmic mason
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If I have two boons, one adding 50% attack DMG and one adding 45% attack DMG
Is that 95% attack DMG?

mint coral
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Yesh

karmic mason
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Or is it multiplicative

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Awwwwwwwwwwww

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Sadness

mint coral
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All % is additive

karmic mason
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Sadness combat

mint coral
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Except crits, some hammers

upper wolf
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every % damage is additive. Crits and base damage are multiplicative

mint coral
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The other multiplicative stuff is dmg reduction, trap dmg

upper wolf
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well, base damage is not multiplicative per se I guess, it's added to the initial base damage of your weapon. But it gets multiplied by % damage

covert hare
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What a cool detail that if you die while against a God their roast you in the death screen

karmic mason
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A cool detail is if you die the voices come back

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Rougelites are my favorite genre but there is nothing more wildly infuriating than bad rougelite builds lol

autumn root
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how do I get the bow hidden aspec?

karmic mason
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The Fates will decide

mint coral
autumn root
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thx

karmic mason
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Discord can't tell you it's the Fates

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Silly man

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Are other supergiant games like Hades or is this one built different

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Cuz if they've made other rougelites hoooooo boy

mint coral
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None of the others are a roguelikes

karmic mason
#

I'm gonna cry and kick and scream

mint coral
#

Gotta wait for hades 2

opaque fable
#

just wait for hades 2 to come out

mint coral
#

That said I still recommend the others, bastion and transistor are rather short

karmic mason
#

Hades 2 where the MC is a woman
She's gonna smack Meg in the mouth

mint coral
#

Pyre is my favorite but is always a mixed bag for recommending it ron

karmic mason
#

I hope the entire roster is the same so I can hear Theseus try to hit on the mc and have her shut him down every single time

#

I hate you Theseus

opaque fable
mint coral
#

Theseus is fun

karmic mason
#

I HATE HIM

#

SO MUCH

mint coral
#

See? Fun!

karmic mason
#

Unending burning fury for that man I hate him and his stupid god powers

#

I wanna knock his stupid boat over

mint coral
#

Play hidden shield then

#

You can nuke him in 6 seconds with slightly above average build

#

(just slight overstatement)

upper wolf
karmic mason
#

Flurry Slash
Dash Nova
Double Edge
Pick one

upper wolf
#

dedge

#

it's not even a question lol

karmic mason
upper wolf
#

yeah he was

#

now he's brosexual with asterius

karmic mason
#

When I get to that fight next I'm gonna try the strat people mentioned about dragging asterius into a corner and killing him first

mint coral
nocturne kelp
karmic mason
#

I usually target Theseus bc if I don't he takes pot shots from left field with his STUPID UGLY SPEAR and I get hit

karmic mason
nocturne kelp
#

HAHAHAHA

karmic mason
#

IM GOING TO KISS KILL YOU

autumn root
mint coral
#

Ayo

autumn root
#

DAMN

covert hare
upper wolf
#

average beo build

covert hare
#

Damn

nocturne kelp
upper wolf
#

ok, good beo build I guess. Average one would take two shots

karmic mason
upper wolf
#

you sweet summer child

karmic mason
#

There is no way beo is that good

mint coral
#

Is still the wr weapon no

karmic mason
#

Worst aspect I've used so far and that includes the spear I'm not even joking

mint coral
#

Haven't checked in a while

karmic mason
#

I can't be this much of a skill issue

mint coral
#

AoE and stupid dmg good

#

I have bad news for you

karmic mason
#

First Noita and now this

#

I hate video games bro

opaque fable
#

got arte leg on cast build PogChamp

mint coral
#

Cheater

upper wolf
karmic mason
#

Man why can't I post images

mint coral
#

Also idk if I hate leg or lego more as a shortened version for legendaries

mint coral
karmic mason
#

I wanna post my build from yesterday where I had every single blade rift additive

upper wolf
#

yellow

#

yelleg

nocturne kelp
#

Yellow

#

Lalalalala

mint coral
#

Yellow???

nocturne kelp
#

Yellow

karmic mason
upper wolf
#

piss boon

nocturne kelp
#

Lalalalalala

opaque fable
nocturne kelp
#

WJAT

karmic mason
#

CHECK THIS OUT

upper wolf
#

hunting blades fun

#

beyblades go brrr

karmic mason
#

LET IT RIP MF

mint coral
#

Why is the icon for talos so far to the right

karmic mason
mint coral
#

Isn't it normally like at the top lmao

#

Thought you were aspectless gaming

karmic mason
#

I know it isn't but I kinda wish the hidden aspect for the fists is Thanos or something stupid lol

nocturne kelp
#

Who knows what happened, I don't tbh

upper wolf
#

thanos malphon would be better than current gilga zaglol

#

though ngl gilgamesh is badass

#

like, the character

karmic mason
#

Thanos where pressing casts cycles the stones

lethal hound
#

hey guys

nocturne kelp
#

Hi

lethal hound
#

i kinda forgor but

#

do u need to unlock the hidden aspects in order

upper wolf
#

Zagreus gets confused and toss the infinity stones at enemies instead of his bloodstones

lethal hound
#

in an order

#

idk

sour fog
#

spear is first

upper wolf
karmic mason
#

The Fates decide

sour fog
#

rest doesn't matter

lethal hound
#

crap u need to unlock spear first?

#

aw

#

i forgor💀

karmic mason
#

he dun forgor

lethal hound
#

i gonna grind for blood now cya

sour fog
#

danny kinda forgot about the Iron fleet

nocturne kelp
#

Awesome! (Not really idk what to say.)

autumn root
#

how do u grind for blud? i already killed the boss with every weapon and it doesnt drop anymore

#

how do I get it again?

upper wolf
#

you have to up the heat

autumn root
#

ohh

#

thx

opaque fable
#

2nd dad kill lets go

karmic mason
#

go back home to your STUPID chair

#

"Good Riddance" is sooooooo good

#

Who sings it better?

nocturne kelp
opaque fable
#

is trading ambrosia for blood a remotely good idea

nocturne kelp
#

For more aspects yes

#

The more you level up your aspect the more your weapon becomes stronger

karmic mason
#

||I see your kingly pardon from a prison of stone.||
Ohhhhhhh say no more Nyx, I know PRECISELY what's goin on :D

nocturne kelp
#

##<@>#>#[××>@×>×2[21>×^@@@
Hi

karmic mason
#

I KNEW IT HAHA

upper wolf
#

Don't trade all though

nocturne kelp
upper wolf
#

you need like 15 for a late game upgrade

nocturne kelp
opaque fable
#

the fact that i'm even in elysium with hazard bomb eris is kind of absurd

steep condor
#

today i said "all weapons and boons are good" but i just lost to thanatos the first time this play through bc of coronacht smh

mint coral
autumn root
#

thx again

opaque fable
#

man artemis duos are insane

#

only questionable one i've seen so far is arte zeus

upper wolf
#

arte zeus is insane

#

it deals sooo much damage, and the range is huge

#

I think it's a noob trap to dismiss lightning rod. atvl I also felt it wasn't that good at first

mint coral
#

Rod is goated

#

Fav duo of hers (outside of beo for obvious reasons)

jagged hamlet
# rustic vale Every voice is perfect

I love all the voices (they so pleasant except Hypnos squirtnya), but Zagreus and Persephone especially have very "Americans trying to sound British" accents. Can't recall who else sounded off

tepid light
#

artemis zeus is nice if you're not running a cast build and just want some use out of your cast

#

i used to dislike it as well until i saw it in action

karmic mason
#

I'm slightly disappointed that after you beat the game you don't get to ||go to Persephone's cottage and tend the garden for a little bit before dying||

#

I like farming in games lol

upper wolf
#

That's a basically universal complaint

karmic mason
#

Is it actually????

mint coral
#

Yes

#

The gamers yearn for the farming minigame

upper wolf
#

I mean

#

yeah ?

#

why are you surprised ? you even felt that way too zaglol

karmic mason
#

It'd be cool if you could plant a little tree and it yields 10-20 of a given resource

wary iron
#

Mel better have a garden…

karmic mason
wary iron
#

We’ve been robbed of two gardens in hades 1 that we were meant to take care of…

karmic mason
#

I made a Minecraft modpack recently and probably 40% of the mods add more trees or crops or foods

mint coral
#

I already had my dose of farming in stardew

karmic mason
#

I figured I was in the minority of farm goblins

tepid light
karmic mason
#

excuse me????

#

brother

wary iron
mint coral
#

Get dyno'd

karmic mason
#

it's a mf emote why

void vigil
#

it was the emote name

karmic mason
#

i invoke the right of funny

karmic mason
void vigil
#

LOL

karmic mason
#

not allowing emote swears is a bit much lol

tepid light
#

I heard that if you bribe the Supergiants with $10000 USD, you are allowed to use swear words in the server

karmic mason
#

I have 20k in savings I think that is a more constructive use than buying a house

#

Where's John Supergiant, CEO of Supergiant

void vigil
#

its not about not allowing emotes, its an automatic filter

#

so it will catch the emote name

karmic mason
#

kill the filter!!!! anarchy reigns

tepid light
#

Are mods also restricted by the filter

karmic mason
#

let's see

#

say fr*ck

tepid light
#

frock

karmic mason
#

HUH

#

MODS!!!!!

void vigil
#

also peafowl, and amano (the final fantasy artist)

karmic mason
#

huh

upper wolf
void vigil
#

no im not restricted by it but im very nice :)

karmic mason
#

Honestly tho having a little farm beyond Hades where you can pick up a few gems or some darkness every time just as a stupid little side bit would've been cool lol

royal bobcat
#

huh, why do that and not just allow pictures?

#

oh btw I ended up getting both duos that run, but lost because I only had 2 death defs

upper wolf
#

F

stiff obsidian
karmic mason
tepid light
karmic mason
#

anarchist arc

mint coral
#

But also I'd miss the post credits deaths

#

Surely zag will befriend the bear one day

stiff obsidian
mint coral
#

Live Sisyphus reaction

void vigil
karmic mason
#

AYO?????

upper wolf
#

aphrizzdite

mint coral
void vigil
#

oh you know

stiff obsidian
mint coral
#

I know?

void vigil
toxic trellis
#

Bouldy???

mint coral
#

Actually good idea for next time my friend brings the pou plushie zaglol

void vigil
mint coral
#

N0000

opaque fable
#

wow i got dad down to 1/5th hp last phase with the worst build i ever made kekw

upper wolf
#

skill solution

#

what was the build ?

opaque fable
#

the most scuffed crystal clarity build ever

#

my only damage boosts were lv 5 crystal beam and glacial glare

#

it was meant to be a run where i just collected all my prophecies but i somehow almost beat dad which is pretty neat

upper wolf
#

I mean, crystal clarity does work

rustic vale
#

Most boons do

opaque fable
#

another failed dad due to getting clipped by his spin

royal bobcat
#

so what happens when you over-heat a win?

upper wolf
#

you get the bounties

#

idr if you need to go at least 1 above to get bounties again, or if you can go back

royal bobcat
#

if I am on heat 4, and I make it heat 6, do I get heat 5 & 6 rewards, probably not. can I just do heat 6 twice or do I have to lower it to heat 5 after 6 or I'll skip that heat's rewards?

upper wolf
#

I think you need to go at least 1 above and are missing on the bounties from before, but you still can have 20 bounties total

royal bobcat
#

yeah I know that

upper wolf
#

So if you're heat 4, go to heat 6, you'll get normal bounties, then have to go heat 7 to get them again

royal bobcat
#

so if I skip heat 5 I'll get nothing?

#

what if I scale it back to heat 5 after?

upper wolf
#

it's considered cleared, you get nothing

royal bobcat
#

so what's the point in going past 20 if the rewards go out? self rewards?

upper wolf
#

there's an achievement for heat 32

#

other than that, it's for funsies

#

I like playing heat 40+

jagged hamlet
#

No achievement for 32. Only in-game reward

royal bobcat
#

well yeah, but I was asking about losing heat 5 rewards, if they're gone or I can go back after or if it gives me them all, all at once

#

so like, when? when I beat meg would I get 2 titan bloods? or after I get back to the house?

upper wolf
#

ooooh

royal bobcat
#

oh, so I'd have to play heat 6 twice if that's how I wanted to play

upper wolf
#

thanks for the correction

#

didn't know it worked like that

royal bobcat
#

ok, because I'm used to roguelikes cranking up the difficulty a lot faster than 64 customized but additive levels and I'd find that really dumb if I did something harder than what I am supposed to and forfeit the privious rewards.
TBH, I'd rather play heat 6 twice than have to crank it up. each. time.

upper wolf
#

valid

#

honestly you can put on a fair amount of heat for almost free by chosing the right pact

#

it's also pretty good to learn FO2, MM and BP2 early

#

and EM up to 3

royal bobcat
upper wolf
#

ignoring shops kinda bad tbh

royal bobcat
#

and with god mode, enemies that do up to 100% more damage can be made to do 20% more damage...

mint coral
#

CF is ew

upper wolf
#

oh yeah, god mode ofc makes it much easier. As it's meant to.

rustic vale
#

It’s a hard decision on whether or not to turn it on for my 40 heat pact

drowsy linden
#

cf is VERY bad

#

its like removing df

rustic vale
latent moon
lavish sorrel
#

I like convenience fee personally (just remember to have 270 coins in shop if you have underworld customs on too SmugBoi) but it can occasionally screw you over ig

stone rune
karmic mason
#

Heavy Knuckle
Long Knuckle
Flying Cutter

stone rune
#

the other two sux

karmic mason
#

lol

marsh merlin
#

im going into the final boss fight, with a merciful end build, without merciful end.....

#

phase 2 with 3 death defies

#

i think i got this

#

easy

#

ok gg

opaque fable
#

this build has no damage but i lucked out with athena leg kekw

#

just play deef

marsh merlin
#

victory number 2

#

1 heat

marsh merlin
#

my doom just wasnt as good because no merciful end

#

also i had athena aid so i tanked him down to literally 50% hp in phase 2

opaque fable
#

my damage is level 1 doom attack + 60% doom damage + 111% special damage OMEGALUL

marsh merlin
#

athena aid is actually cracked

drowsy linden
#

damage where

opaque fable
drowsy linden
#

doom without poms and rarity is garbage

opaque fable
#

i had to play out of my mind

marsh merlin
#

i literally just maxed out the guage then used athena call in phase 2 and tanked him down to literally 50% hp

opaque fable
#

(also i was turbo immune to damage)

marsh merlin
#

i will never not go for athena aid in a merciful end run

#

hell i didnt even get lucky enough to actually get merciful end that run

#

i could haver probably tanked him down even more if i actually got merciful end

drowsy linden
#

be a chad and dont use calls at all

opaque fable
#

wow i'm on a 3 win streak

#

either add meds actually work or i've got better at this game

rustic vale
opaque fable
#

no i'm just emphasizing how little damage my build has

rustic vale
#

what rarityy was the doom

opaque fable
#

C OMEGALUL MM OMEGALUL N

rustic vale
#

fun

drowsy linden
#

still probably better than heat 59 zagsword

marsh merlin
#

i just had a merciful end run where i didnt even get merciful end yet still used athenas aid to tank hades phase 2 down to 50% hp lol

opaque fable
#

i guess i also had x2 defies with the ares boon that gives 15% damage whenever you proc it

drowsy linden
#

those dont stack

rustic vale
#

it’s not whenever you prok it btw

drowsy linden
#

blood frenzy just gives free damage when you die

rustic vale
#

also +15% additive isn’t huge

#

I love texting while tired

#

how do you end up w/ no poms

opaque fable
#

i had poms

#

guess where they ended up

rustic vale
#

too many pommable boons

opaque fable
#

i am not good at decision making

rustic vale
#

Oh so it was an option but you just didn’t?

opaque fable
#

no it just didn't show up

#

took too many boons

marsh merlin
#

is extreme measures rank 1 hard or is it still pretty easy to get by

rustic vale
#

Yeah I mean if you want poms on your boons you kind of want to keep #’s low

opaque fable
#

it's a few more mechanics on meg

rustic vale
#

em1 only affects meg fight so you’ll see pretty wuick

opaque fable
#

or furies i should say

#

pretty easy imo

marsh merlin
#

ok then ig em1 and damage control 1 will be my 2 heat run

#

damage control is honestly pretty easy to deal with

opaque fable
#

take deadline

#

free heat imo

marsh merlin
#

damage control 1 is also basically free heat imo

rustic vale
drowsy linden
#

dc is not free heat

marsh merlin
#

i didnt have many problems with it

rustic vale
#

It’s free heat by itself but it becomes so much worse with more heat

marsh merlin
#

ok well im still doing low heat rn

rustic vale
#

other heat options don’t get as bad

drowsy linden
#

well then dc is free

lavish sorrel
rustic vale
#

and td1 is equal free

marsh merlin
#

im literally going for a 2 heat run right now all im doing is dc1 and em1

latent moon
#

It's less of a problem early heat on like fists, rail, and spear mostly but later down the road it's easier to just take other pacts for 1 or 2 heat

rustic vale
#

I love giving all my enemies the best defensive keepsake in the game

drowsy linden
#

wdym duster is better

marsh merlin
#

fine if its THAT BAD ill do something else....

rustic vale
opaque fable
#

wow in tartarus and i've been forced to take 4 gods PepeHands

latent moon
#

DC isn't even that bad y'all just exaggerate lmao

drowsy linden
#

its only bad if youre going fast

latent moon
#

It's bad on certain aspects definitely but like

rustic vale
latent moon
#

At their heat and game stage it's fine

lavish sorrel
latent moon
#

I just wouldn't make it a habit later down the road

#

And make sure to not take dc on aspects that die from it

marsh merlin
#

rn im literally just going up 1 heat each run because im going exclusively for bounties rn

marsh merlin
opaque fable
#

i'm with aph dio athena zeus

marsh merlin
#

i basically only use sword ngl

drowsy linden
#

sword is fine, especially if me

opaque fable
#

and i wanted arte so

#

sadge

rustic vale
drowsy linden
latent moon
#

Doable but but much rather not

#

Esp since you can crit for big damage

marsh merlin
#

so i can just dc1 em1 and do merciful end again

lavish sorrel
#

DC on Poseidon_Aspect makes me sad

latent moon
rustic vale
rustic vale
drowsy linden
lavish sorrel
rustic vale
#

kinda smair, also low tolerance type behaviour

opaque fable
#

hera bow crush shot btw

#

should've mentioned

rustic vale
#

Sounds fine

opaque fable
#

picked up flurry shot from the hammer

#

strong drink in tart is nice though

lavish sorrel
#

Hera smair is a thing I think

Not ideal but can work (demeter would be better for missil14Snurst), given that zeus can also give billowing strength which with smair is just free permanent damage

opaque fable
#

wait, if i purge all boons from a god, does it remove the god from the pool

lavish sorrel
#

No

latent moon
#

On like

#

Rama luci zeus

#

Fists

lavish sorrel
latent moon
#

Like dc is still not great to take but it's a lot better than other options

latent moon
#

I also havent done eris 40 so idrk lmao

#

I might start like delta and take dc2 if anything tho

#

If in too lazy to go through the settings I'd do fiery presence and rocket bomb tho

lavish sorrel
latent moon
#

Chiron needs the damage output of the first perfect shot to make time

lavish sorrel
#

Yep laugheline

latent moon
#

Tbh it's probably fine on Chiron tho but if you're doing standard low tolerance then that aphro attack would do pretty meaningful damage

marsh merlin
#

oh my god for the second time in a row ares didnt offer me his attack at the start what is this luck

lavish sorrel
#

Modded players on their way to spread propaganda

upper wolf
#

vorime on his way to hack your own personal game for revenge

rustic vale
#

Vorime is the reason why I’ven’t sub4’d or 65 heat cleared yet

rustic vale
marsh merlin
#

oh my god stop giving me literally the same combo of 3 boons

drowsy linden
#

hermes also does not offer more boons

marsh merlin
#

i dont want ares special cast or dash please stop only offerring these at the start ares

rustic vale
#

you should uh

drowsy linden
rustic vale
#

Take a special cast or dash then bouldy

#

So they don’t get offered

upper wolf
#

it doesn't change the seed

rustic vale
#

Since cores (attack, special, cast, dash) are prioritised by rng if you don’t have them

marsh merlin
#

even if i literally go die

rustic vale
#

iirc

#

wait no that’s wrong

marsh merlin
#

i have gotten this same combo after dying 3 times on purpose to get the attack

#

why wont it give me the attack

#

aaaaaaaa

rustic vale
#

try uh

#

casting to shove rng over

#

There’s also the case of you possibly just having really bad luck

marsh merlin
#

probably really bad luck

#

ughhhhhhhhh killing myself takes so long

rustic vale
#

this is why hl5 and sd are optimal

drowsy linden
#

just play the game and get good

marsh merlin
#

i want to start with ares attack why does this game hate me

rustic vale
#

When it doubt start with athena special instead

#

(Starting off with ares on attack is pretty much always the better option)

marsh merlin
#

oh my god i finally got ares attack

#

but itscommon....

#

im taking it anyway im not killing myself again

#

oh god em1 makes me fight all 3 furies at once doesnt it

#

please tell me they have reduced HP

opaque fable
#

1 fury with mechanics from the other two

marsh merlin
#

oh ok

#

thats not as bad

#

i thought i would have to fihgt all 3 since they were all there

#

yeah that wasnt that much harder lol

rustic vale
#

The rest are there as undamageable backup and don’t use their full arsenal

marsh merlin
#

yeah

opaque fable
#

wow my first no hit dad fight

#

i'm getting good at this

true oak
#

when does chaos defiance activate?

#

is it after stubborn defiance

mint coral
#

Yes

true oak
#

hmm thanks

#

I have a choice between defiance and +107 dash strike

#

this is hestia on 36 heat

mint coral
#

What are the curses

true oak
#

dash strike is +69% enemies, not great but im only on td2

#

defiance is no gold, easy

#

im going into lernie next chamber

mint coral
#

How much time you have left

true oak
#

im on 8:01

#

into lernie

#

so5:59 remaining

mint coral
#

If you feel like you won't need the safety net of another DD then I guess go for dash strike

#

But also orange boon funny

true oak
#

lol true

rustic vale
#

Otherwise it’ll prok before

marsh merlin
#

the second run in a row where i didnt even get merciful end....

#

eh im going into hades with 3 death defy, athena aid and 320 max hp anyway ill be fine

rustic vale
#

Duos aren’t the most common thing in the world anyways…

#

just don’t look at any of my screenshots in victory boasting

marsh merlin
#

ok heat 2 hades time

mint coral
rustic vale
#

Oh rlly?

#

I misremembered then

marsh merlin
#

gg 2 heat done

mint coral
#

SD still gets the extra effects though (more healing/invulnerability)

karmic mason
#

I had a 4 streak going and then lost in Asphodel purely because I'm stupid, I just kept dashing into stuff like a moron lol

covert hare
#

winning a run before credits: wholesome moment

#

winning a run after credits: zagreus sneezes so hard he dies

mint coral
#

Zag dying by being polite is still a fun one

drowsy linden
#

zag dying from joy is quite a good one for me

marsh merlin
#

how much hp does each boss have im curious

rustic vale
#

Should be listed on their wiki pages

#

I think

#

Like Hades is 17k per bar apparently

opaque fable
#

jeez

marsh merlin
#

dang thats a lot

winter plaza
opaque fable
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zag when he smells fresh air: NOW

winter plaza
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zag when he sees a tree: 💀

rustic vale
drowsy linden
rustic vale
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When you split it up over each break point though

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It’s a bit more bite sized

marsh merlin
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if those do actually exist

rustic vale
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There are

marsh merlin
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scary

rustic vale
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I mean sub5 minute speedruns exist for a reason

opaque fable
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i don't doubt there are builds that take him down to each immune phase in 1 hit

rustic vale
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…beowulf

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Or hera

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or like a well movespeed boosted ME

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And quite a few other things

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Not exactly 1 hit though

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Very few actions? Certainly

marsh merlin
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for tight deadline does hades count as part of the styx timer or is he his own timer

mint coral
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styx

rustic vale
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part of styx

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Just don’t get 5 sacked

marsh merlin
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that would suck because i literally got epic ares attack

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i dont wanna let this run be wasted

rustic vale
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I mean just speed through it

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And just because your timer hits 0 doesn’t mean you’re dead yet

marsh merlin
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then what does it mean

rustic vale
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-5 hp per second

mint coral
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you start taking 5 dmg/sec

rustic vale
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till you win or die

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You can also iframe that damage

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Dash at the right time and not take it

opaque fable
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holy moly merc end shreds

rustic vale
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Serrated GY with a movespeed reduction from Chaos was so painful residentzag

drowsy linden
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now try double halted serrated

marsh merlin
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16mins going into elysium i dont think time will be n issue this run

rustic vale
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I really just died to something I’ve never died to before

drowsy linden
rustic vale
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It’s only run 546