h1-discussion

[tardy aurora]

HOW DO YOU DO THAT?

[nocturne kelp]

Probably

[tardy aurora]

HE IS A TRICKSTER

[nocturne kelp]

IDK??

REAL

[tardy aurora]

i hate normies sometimes

[nocturne kelp]

Why are we talking abt this in #h1-discussion

[tardy aurora]

btw wht ur fav myth based yt channel

[nocturne kelp]

apollo and hyacinthus...

[void vigil]

yep, this conversation is better to continue in #off-topic-discussion

[nocturne kelp]

Thanks

[tardy aurora]

what if i can link pjo to hades?

[void vigil]

Well, it’s greek myth, conversations about them will be somewhat linked in this context

[tardy aurora]

so no/

[void vigil]

Still, it’s about Percy Jackson :P

[tardy aurora]

aight fair nough

[void vigil]

There’s also #books-and-comics

[rustic vale]

BP2 needs to stop givijgnme the js clone

[mint coral]

More clones got it

[rustic vale]

Me “oh I’ll just do a nice crit focused zag bow run”

Full god pool of Aphro, Ares, Pos & dem by sisters

None of it was optional

3:20 tart exit is on wr pace right

[mint coral]

Just create a way too specific category and sure

[rustic vale]

Zag bow 32 heat w/ this specific god pool

ez

I just realised I turned em3 instead of like mm and uc

we’ll see how that goes

[rustic vale]

Trying to figure whether I force arte anyways or I roll with my current pool

Think I might grab arte anyways

Chaos is offering HS for dash strike damage

Guess I’ll take it and just not touch the magma

And then I died to my own hubris

stubborn defiance gaming

[tardy aurora]

imagine dying in a regular chamber lol - DD gang

[rustic vale]

@echo scaffold #h1-for-new-players message

Since we’re talking about stuff that is a spoiler in new players

[echo scaffold]

I deleted it

Mb

[rustic vale]

Or actually I guess we can stay in new players

[echo scaffold]

Nah it's fine

[rustic vale]

Just use || these around you message to spoiler things||

[echo scaffold]

My friend mentioned it to me

We can just talk here

[rustic vale]

It tanks your max hp, makes the entire moveset a bit heavier

And makes your spin throw out a lifestealing beyblade

[echo scaffold]

Is it worth it?

[rustic vale]

Yes

[echo scaffold]

How much lifesteal?

[rustic vale]

A flat amount

[echo scaffold]

Also is the beyblade act like Ares cast?

[rustic vale]

And the spin isn’t really what gets focused on for the majority of higher tier use

[rustic vale]

A little

[echo scaffold]

I'll check it out

[rustic vale]

Also a little like zeus without the returning

The big thing

Is the heavy special

[mint coral]

1hp per hit

[echo scaffold]

Oh yeah that

[rustic vale]

It has built in pierce and big damage

[echo scaffold]

That's how I got my first clear

[rustic vale]

Isn’t it 2 at max spin

[echo scaffold]

Twas kinda free

[mint coral]

Is it?

[echo scaffold]

It's 1

[rustic vale]

So you slap on charged launcher and just have a 1 hammer nuke arrow

[echo scaffold]

I have the wiki

[rustic vale]

I could’ve sworn it was 2 at max charge but I’m misremembering ig

[mint coral]

Charged skewer gy is basically a glass cannon

[rustic vale]

Glass cannon rama

[echo scaffold]

Does it work with quick spin?

[rustic vale]

Yes

[echo scaffold]

Alr

Great talk I gtg

[rustic vale]

Hmm

[mint coral]

There's also the 60 heat massive spin athena attack run lol

[rustic vale]

I could take triple now, or perfect shot and hold out for twin

Idk if I want to play melee bow with em3 on

[mint coral]

Triple on zag bow is fun

[rustic vale]

it is fun

Screw it I’ll take triple

[stiff obsidian]

if you have athena call em3 shouldnt be a problem

and flurry

[rustic vale]

Hopefully

I have athena in pool at this point

Now I just pray that parting shot doesn’t get in the way of HR and DR odds

Tf when you mess up with SD and now you have to intentionally get hit to reset it

I don’t have the right distance from the furies to properly shotgun them without getting hit back

This is why I like twin more

Bruh Than giving me the heart just messed up my audio que for fishing

[rustic vale]

I took flurry because it was the best option for hammer 2 but goodness do I remember now why I don’t like it

It feels so much less satisfying

[stiff obsidian]

hmm

i find it the most easiest and satisfying

[rustic vale]

Something about powershotting just feels right

And flurry takes that away

Mind you it’s fine on hera and chiron

not on Zag though

With Hera I’m too focused on casting because it’s not second nature for me yet

So flurry helps

[tardy aurora]

whats the requirement to complete any of the sisyphus/ orpheus/ achilles quests

[rustic vale]

Work orders pop up for them

eventually

this comes from dialogue with

nyx

I believe.

It’s been a while

[ashen rapids]

i only done sisyphus and orheus rn and progressing on achilles quests

u do runs and talk with nyx,meg and hades i think

needed dialogue pops out after talking them about the matter after a while

u go to administrative chamber and it pops out to buy in contractor

[covert hare]

lmao i killed a miniboss and zagreus said " ugh, that thing " inmediately while i got an aphrodite blessing

imagine if she heard that

[bleak tree]

So who's everyone's favorite and least favorite gods to get boons from?

I think Athena is probably my #1. Not sure who I'd put as my least favorite. I know a lot of people say Demeter but I actually quite like the freezing debuffs for attack/special/dash and also the crystal cast

[stiff obsidian]

when i see demeter i die inside a little bit and when i see zeus it gives me a little high regardless of my build or aspect

[bleak tree]

Honestly, my least favorite might be Zeus??? Idk the lightning stuff has never been that great imo. Also not huge on Poseidon bc I use Talos Fists a ton and it's really annoying when I pull in enemies and my boon pushes them away immediately.

[mint coral]

I die when I see ares most of the time

[bleak tree]

Ngl, after doing a bit more thinking

Maybe Dionysus is my least favorite?

Which hurts because he's one of my favorites in terms of personality and character design

[wary iron]

Artemis is 1 and dem is last for me

[bleak tree]

Fair

My feelings on Dem are very mixed

[wise pecan]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/302671976718401536/1188613188690907156/image.png?ex=659b294b&is=6588b44b&hm=1cd9695aa5575a68c5f48d5c3407d57c46eebb14dff7570db0cd4a42539961a9& what does this mean 😭

did i get a 2% bonus on everything or?

[bleak tree]

Your ambiguity got a bonus

You know what that means...

[wise pecan]

i don't 😭

[void vigil]

its up for interpretation

[wise pecan]

😭

[wary iron]

It has another meaning

[ashen rapids]

i Didnt know even this existed lol

[true oak]

Does anyone know that maths behind call charge?

[void vigil]

i think it counts based on hits and not based on damage dealt...?

[true oak]

alright then

also receiving damage though

[rustic vale]

Nope

Hits matter more

But damage factors in to an extent

large hits will chunk the bar a bit more then a small hit but faster hits typically prevails

iirc

[drowsy linden]

yeah i also heard that somewhere

[mint coral]

dmg has dimishing returns basically

and is like 100 dmg before it falls off hard

[covert hare]

Favorite would be ares and least would be Zeus

[lavish sorrel]

favourite is athena, and dio's the worst in that preference tierlist.

[rustic vale]

Lowest is def pos unless I’m darkness farming

Or ig if I’m using beo

[stone rune]

what

tdash??)

shoals???

beaver????

[rustic vale]

Tdash is based

[lavish sorrel]

splash dash isn't real

[stone rune]

it goes like

[rustic vale]

I just most of the time don’t end up fitting him in

Tdash is definitely best dash

[lavish sorrel]

divine dash though

[rustic vale]

But most of the builds I’ve been playing recently have needed ddash or

[stone rune]

pos arty zeus > athena dio aph > dem ares

most of thr time

[rustic vale]

a different dash

[rustic vale]

100%

[drowsy linden]

mirage???
pride???
cod and blizzard

[lavish sorrel]

I directly recognize the ZAP users

[rustic vale]

But I find myself quite a bit w/ my more recent builds taking dashes to fill duos

[stone rune]

i dont think ive completed more than 1 non beo run this month

[rustic vale]

ZAP dash is unbelievably based, as someone who used sword often enough

[lavish sorrel]

[rustic vale]

But imagine having a dash that is interchangable with a t1 boon

[lavish sorrel]

even I as a poseidon sword enjoyer I dislike picking zeus dash

that should tell you how bad it is

[rustic vale]

?

This makes no sense to me

Also my prior statement was a joke about the zap dash sword bug

[lavish sorrel]

ah

[rustic vale]

I don’t really get the uh

“Even as a pos sword enjoyer”

[stone rune]

actually ive only cleared 10 runs this month

[lavish sorrel]

poseidon sword has LP as a possible strategy, and one of the possible prereqs is zeus dash

[stone rune]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1028112977100017666/1188627334757089341/IMG_2179.png?ex=659b3678&is=6588c178&hm=bd90759e4ae9948257042913d7bf0f49b7b59bce4c8c87b5129af423cb0034f5&

[rustic vale]

Yeah…

and?

It’s not like I say I dislike taking zap cast on zeus shield for smair builds

even though zap cast is a prereq for smair

because 90% of aspects would just rather have zeus on a different core

Like sword would nab lightning strike

And then prereq is met

[lavish sorrel]

idk many aspects of rod do well with zeus cast

arthur or chiron to name two

[rustic vale]

my point being

Just because a boon has a prereq

Doesn’t mean you should enjoy taking that prereq because you build it

[lavish sorrel]

idk I play merciful end both ways around

[rustic vale]

I wouldn’t say “oh I don’t like taking ares special on zag rail, even though I play ME”

Because it’s not even in the question

There are just different options to put it on

I’ve lost my own plot

Anyways

I’m kind of just sitting here without a build in mind

The game didn’t want to give me spreadfire for shackle zag rail

So I’m thinking a different build might be a good thing

Oh I’ve got inspiration

Bad inspiration

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/845087924717486140/1018858873735610418/Screenshot_20220912-082117_Chrome.jpg?ex=6592ae44&is=65803944&hm=23f1fc3d05733d80cf570c4cfe0a8305061adf246460f6b86a59d05fb623df9e&

Thank you TheGamer

The perfect Lucifer build is now within my grasp

Honestly whoever let TheGamer cook with Hades builds needs to be fired

I just found the article and it has more builds for other weapons

[lavish sorrel]

full athena luci

[rustic vale]

Yeah lets just tell them every pos boon and then a dash from a different god and a duo… and then a dash from a third god just because.

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/795659377755422742/1188630923193897111/IMG_6301.png?ex=659b39cf&is=6588c4cf&hm=4ec165e013e05fcc57765db6fb9916ec1484c916c0d391a6fc443457c5c9b215&

[mint coral]

Thegamer build claim another player

How did I miss all the S in those words

[rustic vale]

Uh random bs go

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/795659377755422742/1188630927325278209/IMG_6300.png?ex=659b39d0&is=6588c4d0&hm=a99d1387a00a29801db07c116251773d11855643867b24c4cd7bb4af2a6f3bb7&

lets just grab whatever and put it in the textbox

[rustic vale]

Oh guess what’s directly after full Athena Luci

“These are some of the best Hades builds for every weapon.”

[lavish sorrel]

[rustic vale]

“Boons hardly matter with this weapon, but Athena’s buffs are solid - they basically mean you can melt or deflect every projectile that comes your way, allowing you to be offensive and defensive at the same time.”

That’s what they said about Luci

[mint coral]

Ty thegamer

[lavish sorrel]

me when luci is the only rail that cannot get clockets

[rustic vale]

“However, if you can get Boons from Demeter and Dionysus you’ll increase your healing potential and overall survivability, meaning that as long as you balance aggression with evasion, you’ll be able to put down enough damage to annihilate mobs before they can touch you.” -notes on GY

Wait wait wait

“The Eternal Spear is an excellent hybrid weapon, but one of Hades’ most difficult Infernal Arms to master. To be honest, all of its Aspects are good, but if you want to be an expert you’ll need the hidden Aspect of Guan Yu.”

[lavish sorrel]

this almost looks written by AI

[rustic vale]

“You’ve got a lot of options for Boons here, but if you can get Poseidon knockback Boons with Ares’ Doom buffs, you’ll be able to mitigate incoming attacks while relying on ongoing Doom damage to slowly incapacitate your enemies.”

-on Beowulf

[mint coral]

AI could pull off guides from actual players so it'll probably end up better

[lavish sorrel]

please stop, my singular braincell is hurting

[rustic vale]

So uh

If you’re lucky enough to find a Daedalus Hammer with Explosive Shot or Triple Shot - which increase damage and the number of projectiles fired, respectively - every single mob in the Underworld becomes an absolute breeze.

Hold on hold on

[lavish sorrel]

triple + explosive on bow is a good heat option, so they have a point

[rustic vale]

I’m going to destroy this singular braincell

“However, the Stygian Blade’s strongest form is Aspect of Arthur, which provides you with a heavy attack designed to increase damage output within a certain radius.”

[lavish sorrel]

good night world, this comment was too much for me to handle

[rustic vale]

The Stygian Blade is the first weapon you unlock in Hades. It’s pretty reliable, dealing consistent damage and having a decent amount of control in terms of how you want to engage your opponent, but two of its forms stand high above the rest.

The first is its Aspect of Poseidon, which allows you to dislodge Cast shards from your opponents by attacking them. If you combine this with Artemis’ Boons - specifically Exit Wounds, which deals 100 damage per dislodged shard - you can rack up astronomical amounts of damage, with bosses becoming far easier to handle.

dw that’s the last line

Oh

Turns out there’s a “complete Hades guide and walkthrough”

Shall we take a gander there as well

[lavish sorrel]

NO

[rustic vale]

Anyways

[rustic vale]

What should I buildv?

[lavish sorrel]

play freshfile uh I mean do a routine inspection 4 run

[rustic vale]

Both of those are certainly options

[lavish sorrel]

(the latter is pretty free ngl)

[rustic vale]

that doesn’t exactly answer my question

RI4 by itself maybe

anyways what am I cooking with

[lavish sorrel]

I mean, for the former the build is pretty obvious

[rustic vale]

True

splitting headache curse of nausea drunk dash

[rustic vale]

For the latter though

My last run was ME

not exactly trying to do it again

[lavish sorrel]

always the option of doing some random arthur run or whatever

hera or rama if you're into that

[rustic vale]

Any work I’m just lacking inspiration

[lavish sorrel]

Hera but with lightning rod

[rustic vale]

Eh rama with dem focu-

Hera w/ rod sounds fine

Thnx

[lavish sorrel]

(my braincell has embraced the build stupidity, sorry about this)

[drowsy linden]

reflecting rama

all athena, thats it

[rustic vale]

My controls should probably be changed for hera but

I’m so used to regular play

There isn’t a button that feels right to remap cast to but I can’t have my thumb control dash, attack and cast

[mint coral]

I just swap special and cast usually

But also I play with mostly default stuff

[rustic vale]

Muscle memory is hard

[rustic vale]

Do you aim for 1 or 2 casts / dash strike?

I can’t imagine hitting more

[jagged hamlet]

That TheGamer article singlehandedly demonstrates why you should pay attention in school, especially English >.<

[mint coral]

Yeah but that's because most stuff dies on 1-2 casts

If I have more I'll load enough to kill whatever I'm shooting

[rustic vale]

Mechanically speaking I don’t think I can hit cast more than twice before I shoot off my dstrike

it just feels unnatural

My thumb just won’t

Maybe that’ll come w/ time

[stone rune]

i have jever pressed cast ever

useless

[rustic vale]

I’m typically loading from the start of the dstrike to the dfiring so maybe I should be loading earlier?

[stone rune]

no cast buuld is good

[rustic vale]

Also for a rod centric build

Deadly strike or true shot

Or flourish

[mint coral]

Crush shot 🧠

Set rod on demand

[rustic vale]

FO2 Tis

tf was that

why’ve I never had this issue before

Time to make my pact like a psycho

[wise pecan]

other meaning you say?

[rustic vale]

Btw Ambiguity bonus literally just increases your ambiguity by 2%

[ashen rapids]

is that randomised hk profile?

[rustic vale]

“Ok I’m about to pop my sd to poison I guess I’ll kill them”

Room clear w/ 1 hp and sd remaining

[mint coral]

Classic

[jagged shoal]

evergreen acorn or skelly tooth?

[mint coral]

In my case it was cuz of heaven's vengeance

[rustic vale]

Acorn

It’s not that hard

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Just do it

[lucid pulsar]

What should I try to do I just completed 32 skulls

The big sleeker on hydra was annoying

[latent moon]

Do it again on a different aspect

[rustic vale]

Get consistent at it

And then shoot straight for 40

[drowsy linden]

no be a slow but chad person and go for 47/45

[rustic vale]

1.04444444 heat doesn’t exist last I checked

[stone rune]

you can just do 40 after 32

they are identical in difficulty

[rustic vale]

Sure they are

sure

[stone rune]

they literally are

if u can do 32 u can do 40

[rustic vale]

Then my 40 heat would’ve been done by now

[stone rune]

idk man

[rustic vale]

just like ignore all the stupid restrictions I put on myself when I was running 40 heat

[stone rune]

🗿

the only environment where 40 heat is significantly harder than 32 is speedrunning

32 sub6 is free while 40 heat sub6 is the most painful experience imaginable

[rustic vale]

… is one step away from idk man as

[stone rune]

someone with

[rustic vale]

about 10 miliseconds in the game

[stone rune]

i can confidently say that geometry dash is better

[rustic vale]

Like why can’t zag jump? Clearly inferior game

[desert tundra]

Zag should've been in Among Us Indie Collab...

[covert hare]

Merry christmast supergiant and hades fans

[stiff obsidian]

Zag can jump to place arthur special

But apparently he still takes lava damage while in the air

[latent moon]

Dash nova is a pretty significant jump

Also I think the guan Yu standing strike combo has a jump

[stiff obsidian]

Yeah but it's sad it's only visual

I died to lernie a few times because I thought the jump would stop the lava damage

[covert hare]

And it’s a very graceful one

Zagreus pulling up the ballerina jumps mid fight

[stiff obsidian]

and dies violently

[wary iron]

The meaning is unclear

[safe shoal]

I just sexed Megaera 🤤

such a baddie 🤤

[covert hare]

😭

Da hell

[tiny path]

What’s the fastest way to get diamonds?

[ashen rapids]

Hydra won't like this

If u beat hades at least one time,with heat level u gain more dia,titan blood etc

but first u have to beat the heat u chose so u can gain from other heat level

There is shop in front of zags room too u can trade 10 nectar to a diamond

basically killing hydra everytime with heat level or trade or u can do fated list in zag's room there are some things reguire u to do excange of dia

[lavish sorrel]

HK sprite with references to many of my favorite games built in. Try to spot them all :]

[ashen rapids]

I only see zags sword and hk can't tell others sorry lol

[stiff obsidian]

tech toerro

rr

[silk stone]

is the nova sword good

whats the best aspect of the nova sword

[tepid light]

The what?

[silk stone]

yk the sword

isnt it called nova

[upper wolf]

no ?

[silk stone]

oh

[upper wolf]

where did you get nova from ?

[silk stone]

why is the special called nova smash

[tepid light]

oh

that's just the name of the special

[silk stone]

special was called nova smash 😭

[tepid light]

the sword's proper name is the Stygian Blade

[upper wolf]

that's like saying the name of the protagonist is "cast" because it's one of your attacks x)

[silk stone]

oh

[tepid light]

But you can just call it the sword

[silk stone]

whats the best aspect of the stygian blade

[upper wolf]

Stygius's best aspect is nemesis

[tepid light]

nemesis is generally regarded as the best one

[brisk trail]

Nice, sped up armored 40% tight deadline chariot in elysium is fair and balanced nice one supergiant games

[upper wolf]

crits go brrr

[silk stone]

special gives 3 secs of chance to crit?

[tepid light]

yep

[silk stone]

is that it

[tepid light]

sometimes the simplest bonus is the best

[silk stone]

cool

[tepid light]

guaranteed crits is big

[upper wolf]

indeed, now wait 'til you see tartarus fast splitters witches

[brisk trail]

Thanatos spawns 3 thats nice

[silk stone]

what are the best daedalus hammer enchantments on the stygian blade

[tepid light]

double edge and breaching slash are nice

[upper wolf]

double edge and then whatever strikes your fancy other than hoarding slash and huhhh a special hammer I forgot

lunge nova or something ? Idr

[tepid light]

hoarding slash and cursed slash are the two hammers i'd never take

[upper wolf]

yeah

cursed slash is one with upside and downside, sometimes the upside is worth it but most of the time it isn't

[tepid light]

world splitter on nemesis is entertaining because it basically turns you into weird budget arthur

[lavish sorrel]

idk with more than 1 dash you end up not even using the regular strike anyways

2+dash sword combo (except arthur) is special -> dashstrike (x how many dashes you have)

[tepid light]

counterpoint: i enjoy standing in one place and clicking to watch the cool combo animations

i never said world splitter nemesis was 'good'

i said it was 'entertaining'

[lavish sorrel]

am I talking to a thrust user

[tepid light]

yes, but also see above

[stiff obsidian]

i am a thrust user

[tepid light]

congratulations on fulfilling my expectation that someone would come in and bring up the optimal sword approach though

[stiff obsidian]

unintentional though

[lavish sorrel]

yw yw

[upper wolf]

world splitter on zagsword is great

[tepid light]

i don't think i've ever used a zag aspect once ever since unlocking other aspects

[upper wolf]

zaggun with spread fire is amazing

and significantly different from the other aspects

[lavish sorrel]

kinda melee weap

[upper wolf]

yep

zagshield is also funny

and zagbow is basically nemesis bow lol

[tepid light]

yeah i should give the zag weapons more of a chance

i haven't even put any titan blood into them yet lmao

[obsidian linden]

ROOM 8 EXCLUSIVE ACCESS LET'S GO

Wasn't fishing for it

What is supposedly the most broken things you can do with that?

[stiff obsidian]

hyper delivery

[obsidian linden]

Well, we're all fishing for that...

I mean, something more like Zeus double strike and other stuff

[stiff obsidian]

rarity only rly matter on hermes chaos and doom i think

anything else should be fine with poms

[tepid light]

Tbh I never really understood the "rarity doesn't matter" thing

Like sure you could 'manage' when only having common boons or somesuch

But I don't think anyone could seriously make the argument that a common Aphrodite strike is just as good as an epic one

(To use Aphrodite strike as an example)

[stiff obsidian]

that was one of the boons i was thinking of adding to the list

otherwise other stuff should be alright

[obsidian linden]

Secondary effects, everything you sell is making you money

[tepid light]

Well aphrodite strike is just what immediately popped into my head

There's never a situation where you would want to have a common boon over an epic or whatever

[stiff obsidian]

yeah but theres not always a reason to roll a common boon for an epic one

[obsidian linden]

Low damage stuff

[tepid light]

such as ?

[obsidian linden]

I'm allways piss of when I get Epic Athena Dash

Put my luck elsewhere game

[stiff obsidian]

dio, zeus attack

[tepid light]

but assuming it's a boon you want, then no one's gonna turn their nose up at having it be epic instead of common

[stiff obsidian]

i never said that or implied that

[tepid light]

maybe, but that's the impression i always get whenever someone says "rarity doesn't matter"

[stiff obsidian]

rarity doesnt matter as much*

[tepid light]

if what you mean is that "rarity is not a thing worth bending over backwards for when it's a good boon anyway", then sure, i can agree with that

[obsidian linden]

Rarity do matter when you are using very high damage multiplicative

That 3 difference become a fierce 72 later

[tepid light]

I mean at least in my opinion, even with things like zeus or dionysus strike, rarity still helps a lot

+15 damage rather than +10 damage on every single attack with something like fists really adds up

[stiff obsidian]

the majority of the boons you get cast, dash (except tdash) aid etc doesnt really care about rarity at all

[obsidian linden]

Exactly

[stiff obsidian]

especially dio strike pomssscale linearly so you can just add 2 poms to make up for it

[tepid light]

but if you got an epic dionysus strike from the start, that makes you less reliant on poms because you don't have to 'make up' for anything in the first place

[stiff obsidian]

yes

that doesnt contradict what i said about rarity not mattering much

it does matter a bit but not much

and in the context of exclusive access dio strike wouldnt be the first thing you think of ' ooh now i can get epic dio strike'

[tepid light]

well, i guess all i can say is that mattering a bit is much different from not mattering at all

and yes, i am aware that is not what you yourself said

but again, the "rarity doesn't matter" thing always throws me for a loop when i hear it

[tepid light]

well yeah at this point i'm just speaking about rarity in general

[stiff obsidian]

[tepid light]

how dare you emoji me

/jk

[stiff obsidian]

|| ||

[tepid light]

[obsidian linden]

The gods like me today

Don't use your special for 3 chamber and get +1 life

I'm using Beo

[obsidian linden]

I'm god chosen one today

So far we have

Chamber 8 exclusive acces

+1 live with easy condition

Rush Delivery

Blood Frenzy

Last Chamber give the choice to purge exclusive acces for lots of money

And now I'm choosing double pom between Athena's Aid and Trippy Flare Lv. 6

Also, Beo Mirage Shot

||possible doom: clicking give up instead of quit to save||

[mint coral]

Athena call poms aren't good

And you aren't charging fast enough with beo anyways

[sour fog]

For darkness farming, do you just grab Poseidon at the start and hope for Chaos? I'm guessing you also want Favor and Pride in mirror, anything else you can do to increase the amounts?

[gray apex]

Take Poseidon in Aspho

At the start take something to get a solid build so the run doesn’t take you 40 minutes

[sour fog]

shouldn't I run 0 heat though? you can do that with anything

[mint coral]

I say take the speedrun pact

And td1 if you don't want survival rooms

[upper wolf]

RTA pact

EM2, FO2, TD3

[sour fog]

why em2

[mint coral]

Lernie heads spawn closer

[sour fog]

huh

[mint coral]

Non-em lernie arena is biiiig

[sour fog]

I wouldn't have ever thought about that

true

alright thanks guys, I'll see you in a year when I'm done with resource director

[upper wolf]

I tried darkness farming for 2 runs

Before giving up because it's unfun

Now I'm just speedrunning normally instead

Trying to get sub10 IGT on every aspect

... Currently stuck on arthur

[ashen rapids]

darkness gonna end up useless at some point after maxing the mirror after all

İ think it gives u 100-150 darkness every time u clear the boss previously cleared i remember

[mint coral]

They are going for the resources director ranks

Which takes 325k darkness

[rustic vale]

It takes a long time to make darkness useless

@stiff obsidian how many hours do you have in Hades rn

I know you got unseen one recently

[ashen rapids]

Ohh okay

Just forgot about that

[stiff obsidian]

I spent most of my hours playing heat so I almost never cleared, I'm not the right person to ask tbh

[rustic vale]

Either way

You got to 325k darkness

So how long did that take you?

We can take it as the extreme

If we compare it to someone actively darkness farming

[stiff obsidian]

Assuming 500 afk hours I have 950 hours

[rustic vale]

Why do you have that many afk hours

[stiff obsidian]

I don't close game after playing usually

500 is a guess, not an estimate, it could be the other way around for all i know

[earnest vine]

New here and new to the game

Hi!

[echo scaffold]

Hello

You should go to #server-roles and get your roles

[earnest vine]

Ah ok

Somehow missed that

[echo scaffold]

Also, the #520429761420591124-fhas no spoilers

Hadesfor new players

Mb

[earnest vine]

Got it

[ashen rapids]

Welcome!

[polar latch]

so i had 12 hours on steam playing hades right?

and then i got the biggest crush on hypnos

like 3 days ago

now i have 40 hours on hades

[echo scaffold]

Cool

Go to #server-roles

For roles

[polar latch]

alright

omg the sticker is so adorable

[echo scaffold]

[polar latch]

that one's cursed

[echo scaffold]

How

[nocturne kelp]

Dusa ♡

[echo scaffold]

[nocturne kelp]

Hi

[echo scaffold]

Hello

[nocturne kelp]

My friend said that they wanna punch that emoji

[echo scaffold]

Me too

[nocturne kelp]

amazing!

[echo scaffold]

I'm in the middle of a fight with Tisiphone rn lmao

[nocturne kelp]

Good luck

[echo scaffold]

Ty

[nocturne kelp]

Yw!!

[wise pecan]

is the one dash thing from the mirror actually good?

[upper wolf]

not really

having two dashes is just too good

[latent moon]

It's used for Gilgamesh and very high heat shield for dps

Other than that it sees no use

[upper wolf]

oh, didn't know about high heat shield

[lavish sorrel]

scratch uses it for high heat fists stuff

[stiff obsidian]

doesnt very high heat shield just use ri3 instead of rr

[upper wolf]

rr

grrrrrr

[stiff obsidian]

[latent moon]

Block kinda good lmao

You can kinda get away with not having a second dash because of bull rush

[tardy aurora]

why havent i gained poseidons favor? i done the 25 fish prophecy so the 18 requirement is done, i got a fish rn if not multiple

[drowsy linden]

talk to him more, you mightve gotten a different dialogue blocking the favor

and also you need to not talk to him before getting the fish i think

since dialogue only appears on gifting, shop, trial, and first pickup

[tardy aurora]

oh cuz wiki says it can be from a prior run

[drowsy linden]

well that also works i think, but if poseidon's not giving generic dialogue, then keep talking

[mint coral]

Yeah is just rng issue

[covert hare]

i kinda dont like rng because of characters not being at home

or not saying something important

but i also like it

because it kinda gives it more realism

[upper wolf]

mfw I have to farm my grandma to get cookies (I need to exhaust her pool from all the racism)

[polar latch]

i'm trying to do hypnos' favor and i can't seem to be able to talk to thanatos? like the dialogue doesn't get initiated thanatos just keeps talking about other stuff

[mint coral]

The wonders of rng

[covert hare]

oh boy i sure hope this character talks to me about the current situation important to the lore

the character: hey i like that new weapon you are using

[echo scaffold]

What does the Arthur sword actually do

[mint coral]

press special, deploy aura that slows down enemies projectiles and gives dmg reduction

also disables traps

[upper wolf]

And wait 2-3 business day to swing the sword and obliterate everything in its path

Now I wonder if Arthur would be good if 3rd swing literally instaphased everything (or, y'know, just kill) and the second swing did enough to kill common enemies up to asphodel

[covert hare]

are there any requirements for unlocking the secret aspects?

i dont even remember how did i got guan yu

[jagged hamlet]

Yesh. They're all pinned in #h1-story-discussion

[covert hare]

oh crap if it is lore related then i cant check it

i dont wanna spoil myself

guess il find it by my own

[jagged hamlet]

They're all individually spoiler-tagged too!

[latent moon]

You have to like

Talk to specific people

With certain requirements met

But yeah you can definitely find out on your own

I did that way

[rustic vale]

Post getting gy, ||you need 5 blood in a weapon and, aside from sword, to get a voiceline while using the weapon from the God who gives you the final voiceline, to finally be able to get a 2nd voiceline (can be acquired while using any weapon) to unlock it||

It’s not really lore

[silk stone]

why does unlocking all the secret aspects need aspect of guan yu

[rustic vale]

But I figured I’d maybe spoiler it anyways

you need GY to get the rest of the hidden ones

It’s the first one you can get

that’s just how they (Super Giant Games) decided to go about it

[silk stone]

how to get ruthless reflex

[marsh merlin]

i just got the game today and i have already been to the boss of elysium lol

[silk stone]

cool

[marsh merlin]

is it just me or is Poseidon dash and Athena special together kinda op

[silk stone]

on what weapon

[marsh merlin]

the sword

[silk stone]

oh

hmm

i guess yeah

[marsh merlin]

thats how i got to the elysium boss on literally my first time there

[silk stone]

it could be

[marsh merlin]

i had never made it to elysium and literally got to the boss first try with that combo lol

[silk stone]

im not new at all but i dont know the game much myself 😭 🙏

[silk stone]

nice

[marsh merlin]

tbf with that combo all i do is just spam dash and occasionally special and win easy because dash iframes

[silk stone]

so real

[marsh merlin]

its kinda stupid that it works but whatever idrc

i think ill just mainly play the sword a lot of the time because i have 5/6 of the weapons and its my favourite

[silk stone]

[silk stone]

my fav ones r def the spear n maplhon fists

varatha

stygian is good too

i hate the bow 😭

too hard to use 👽

[marsh merlin]

so true

the bow is so hard to use

[silk stone]

yesh

[latent moon]

Y'all need to dash strike with it

Charges faster and makes it smoother to play

Turns into a rhythm game

[silk stone]

das harder tho

😔

[latent moon]

Makes bow easier to play

[silk stone]

i choose flurry something from the daedalus hammer when it comes

on da bow

[silk stone]

character development:
from bone hydra to lernie

[drowsy linden]

press the other dash talent in the mirror(i forgot name)

[silk stone]

whatg

[drowsy linden]

all mirror talents have 2 sides, a yellow-green and a purple.
click on the name of the talent to switch sides

the second dash is the purple side, ruthless reflex is the yellow green side

[silk stone]

WHAT

i never knew that

dayum

thanks

i thought i maxed out the whole mirror

[drowsy linden]

also please use the other side of olympian favor

its SO much better

[silk stone]

purple side?

[drowsy linden]

use the green side

its called dark foresight

[silk stone]

oh okay

[drowsy linden]

looks like the decorations of an exit

[rustic vale]

Learn it earlier

Learning it later will only be harder

And it makes it 1000* better

Wait that responded wrong

[rustic vale]

Even though you may get ruthless reflex, just ditch it after you get your win for the prophecy

[upper wolf]

Poseidon dash is one of the best boon in the game. Great damage that scales well with poms

And divine flourish is nice. Deflect is really cool against projectiles

Still, getting to heroes in less than a day is really damn impressive

[wispy sinew]

Someone wana give me a random challenge in mood to play again

[latent moon]

spin guan yu

[tepid light]

oh god

well yeah that's certainly a challenge

[rustic vale]

flip your regular mirror (each upgrade for their counterpart)

and then do spin guan-yu as Bananas suggested

[covert hare]

Play blindfolded

[wispy sinew]

Ok I will try 😆

[rustic vale]

Blindfolded Hades is a thing

the blindfolded modpack was made to be more accomadating for them iirc

[latent moon]

60 heat guan yu was a spin build

just ignore the rd

but honestly like it was pretty baller

sd wasn't used until ely

athena attack with massive spin

[tepid light]

huh

well, i won't deny the results

i just personally would rather eat broken glass than play that

[latent moon]

fair

it was like 53 secs overtime

[silk stone]

||is it possible for theusus to not have any god take his side if zagreus has a boon from each god in the game||

[latent moon]

i mean it might pick a random one, but i'm pretty sure it's impossible for that to have happen

[rustic vale]

@wispy sinew #h1-victory-boasting message

Didn’t feel like linking to avictory in new players

But this run

Had like not that much technically skill

By that I mean spawn manip

And spawn manip alone

I was 100% doing enemy grouping

Which is a lot more core

But I was also just focusing a lot on mechanics at this point

So no you don’t need spawn manip for sub10

[latent moon]

you dont need it for sub8

well sub9 is more generous but i didn't do it for sub8

[upper wolf]

spawn manip is, like, going to a corner of the map to have mobs spawn closer together ?

[latent moon]

more or less

[rustic vale]

Ish

[latent moon]

that's like a very basic understanding of it but at the same time it's kinda all it is lmao

[rustic vale]

Also if it hasn’t hit you yet

My PB was over a year ago

[latent moon]

welp time to make a new one then

[rustic vale]

Time indeed

But do I really have the time to repick up Hades

[latent moon]

yes

[rustic vale]

Idk

I’ve managed to repick up heat

I think I may even be more consistent with heat then before

So I might shoot for higher heat rather then a speed pb

like 40

[latent moon]

that works too

[rustic vale]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/845087924717486140/1018858873735610418/Screenshot_20220912-082117_Chrome.jpg?ex=659be8c4&is=658973c4&hm=50b90ae7cd401f4782cd8bc267632250a2b46308d771b4e0de8df8bcbb0a856c&

This build

Or this one: #h1-discussion message

Shoot

either way, TY the gamer for these “brilliant” builds

[void vigil]

That’s like every boon lol

[stiff obsidian]

Disciple of athena

[gray apex]

Incredible

[silk stone]

bone hydra ❌
lernie ✅

[tepid light]

blessed be her name

[sturdy berry]

Which boons are seen as best for beowulf shield? Especially regarding the cast since it works differently

[mint hatch]

Poseidon and Dio are best.
Just don't pick Zeus or Ares and you're good

[sturdy berry]

Alr

[raw herald]

Mirage shot

[lavish sorrel]

(with crush flare and thunder flare seeing some use in heat gameplay too. these two are however quite niche.)

[stiff obsidian]

thunder flaere

[mint coral]

Thunder flare in high heat???

[ashen rapids]

yeah like rn im doing it with rama

[rose roost]

Mysterra did 50beo with thunder flare lol #787779476888354816 message

[stiff obsidian]

they did it because it sucks lol

[ashen rapids]

''vanquis ||hades|| bearing cosmic egg'' like wear cosmic egg before the fight?

[mint coral]

Yeah

[tepid light]

just have it equipped when you fight dad

[ashen rapids]

Oh okay

thanks!

[latent moon]

Mysterra does whatever they want in high heat lmao

Doesn't make it good or useful

They did 59 non hell mode slicing flare

Still garbage tho lmao

[echo steppe]

hello, i had a question, if I have a boon that affects attack damage, would it also affect my spin attack, or just my normal attack?

[latent moon]

It'll also affect the spin

[echo steppe]

kewl

[latent moon]

The punishing sweep from hades spear doesn't affect spin damage tho

[echo steppe]

it was just a boon from chaos n then i got a daedelus upgrade on the spin attack

is it unusual that i have 160 hrs and had the game since 2020 and yet have only gotten past elysium and no farther lol

i see a lot of ppl talking about heats in this game and demeter and i still have encountered none of it

[mint coral]

Both are post first win

Or hell mode for heat

[echo steppe]

i figured

[mint coral]

Wait no, dem isn't post first win

Just reaching the final boss is enough

[echo steppe]

no yea i still haven't gotten to the final boss lol

i don't even think i'm Bad at the game i just... go at a slow pace i guess

not like in the gameplay but as far as trying to get further along

[winter plaza]

i never thought about this but what is the criteria for getting a duo boon?

like can both gods offer it at the same time or is there a formula to it?

[rustic vale]

Both gods can offer it

You just need certain boons to even be able to get them

Requirements are viewable in your codex

[winter plaza]

i figured sometimes that maybe you get it from the second god you got the prerequisite boon for

[winter plaza]

yeah i know that much

i just didn't know if there was an order to it

[rustic vale]

you can get it from either god

[winter plaza]

okay thanks

[covert hare]

is there any reason for why i havent seen the legendary boon of every God yet?

or just bad luck

[mint coral]

Could be luck or that you didn't pick the requisites to open them in first place

[jagged hamlet]

Are ya meeting the prerequisites?

[rustic vale]

As long as you’re meeting the prereqs it’s just a matter of rng

[covert hare]

I don’t know the requirements

[mint coral]

Do you have the codex upgrade yet

[rustic vale]

If you have the codex you can check

Otherwise the wiki page for each God has them

[mint coral]

https://cpecific.github.io/hades-wiki/ also this cuz fandom is dumb

[covert hare]

the thing where you can check the bio of people?, the upgrade that gives you a list of the boons?

[mint coral]

Yeah

The list also shows the prerequisites for boona

[covert hare]

ooooooooooooh

i see

ugh but paying attention to all of this is kins of a chore

maybe i should just try to get them naturally

[mint coral]

You can open the codex even while picking up boons

You'll memorize the requisites with time but for now just open it before selecting what to take

[rustic vale]

This is so blessed

[mint coral]

(also no need to memorize everything, just the good duos/legendaries)

[rustic vale]

You probably won’t get them any time soon if you just try naturally

Especially for like Divine Protection where there is only one boon that even opens it

[mint coral]

Dio legendary is also a tricky one

Cuz his isn't opened by a core + t2

[rustic vale]

Or arte legendary where you need 2 of 3

[covert hare]

yeah i think im just gonna ignore it until completing the codex is the only thing left to do

i dont wanna overheat my brain

[rustic vale]

Just opening your codex to check whether any of your options open up a legendary shouldn’t overheat your brain, hopefully

You just pick up a boon then chekc the god’s list and be like “huh oh brilliant riposte is an option and lets me get divine protection, I think I’ll take it”

[ashen rapids]

Guys what is the ''God mode'' in the settings

[covert hare]

maybe since i have autism

when a game gives me choices i die inside

[mint coral]

20% dmg reduction, goes up by 2% each time you die. Caps at 80%

[ashen rapids]

oh

useless for me

[rustic vale]

Isn’t it 4#

[mint coral]

Wanna test it?

[covert hare]

ok

extreme measures 3 sure was a surprise

[rustic vale]

W/ family rn, won’t

[mint coral]

Classic

[covert hare]

but atleast i beated it first try

( i have no revives left )

[rustic vale]

Your reaction was way less thanif should’ve

[mint coral]

Just keep your hp above 0 while reducing enemies hp to 0 and you'll be fine

[covert hare]

oh

[drowsy linden]

em3 is mostly just asterius shockwave and spin

[covert hare]

i was so scared when i first saw them tho

[drowsy linden]

and the occasional bomb simulating hs

[covert hare]

wow the spin attack from father did 80 damage

well

there goes my win streak

[drowsy linden]

boiling blood moment

[covert hare]

idk what to do

[rustic vale]

heat moment

Just don’t get hit by his skulls

[covert hare]

i did manage to beat em3 but died before the clear

so i guess that means im not ready for winning with em3

[earnest vine]

Rush Delivery seems really fun to use

[mint coral]

and super good

[earnest vine]

How would I build around it

[mint coral]

you don't really built around, it supports any build

just take hyper sprint from hermes and hope rd shows up at the 2nd hermes

[drowsy linden]

free 50+ percent damage

[rustic vale]

Top tier Hermes boon

Especially with hyper spront

[rustic vale]

I think you mea +100%

[drowsy linden]

greater recall better smh

[rustic vale]

just get a purple rd

[covert hare]

is there any other pact for dummies?

[rustic vale]

Also since movespeed is multiplicative

[rustic vale]

Td is super simple

[drowsy linden]

smh its 125%

[mint coral]

middle management is fun, benefits package 1 is fine, as mentioned tight deadline is pretty much fine

depends on your average clean time but still

[drowsy linden]

"average clean time"
hades is about housekeeping???!!?!?!?!

[mint coral]

I mean...

you do redecorate and clean up the house

[earnest vine]

Is heavy knuckle good

[mint coral]

not really

[drowsy linden]

depends on god/aspect

[mint coral]

you usually build for on hit effects like zeus due to your low base dmg

[drowsy linden]

if youre using talos, its fine
if demeter, horrible
if youre using zeus on attack, horrible

[rustic vale]

Not really

oh wait I was in the past

Eh somenoobdying had the saeme thought process

[mint coral]

if you wanna build it is better to keep a c1 heavy knuckle seed so you can force aphro or arte

[drowsy linden]

fun fact:
i was in the process of typing not really

[rustic vale]

Heavy knuckle is really just worse spreadfire zagrail

[covert hare]

i dont care about time i care about win no matter how long

[mint coral]

yeah tight deadline prob not for you then

[rustic vale]

TD is just win faster

[covert hare]

bruh i already said im bad at making choices

and now you want me to do them under time pressure?

and yes i know time freezes when you have to make a choice

but my point stands

[rustic vale]

I think that very point makes it not though

because you have infinite time to make decisions

It’s just about playing a bit more efficiently when you’re in combat

and you can just try td1 out first

Then work your way up once the time crunch is less of a crunch and more just second nature

[mint coral]

@opaque fable for heat there's a pinned guide on what's recommended in #h1-high-heat-strategies

[opaque fable]

oh nice

[earnest vine]

Won again

Is it just me or is it way easier after the first win

[mint coral]

is a common feeling

[earnest vine]

I don't have to spoiler stuff in this channel right

[drowsy linden]

yes, its spoiler free

[opaque fable]

getting to dad seems way easier after the first time around

probably because i got better? i hope so

extreme measures is the extra boss mechanics one right

[mint coral]

yeah

[opaque fable]

not in game

[earnest vine]

I can consistently just not die

So that's good

[drowsy linden]

you should try heat 32, itll boost your confidence

[earnest vine]

No

Where Skelly??

Nvm

How many runs did it take everyone to beat Hades for the first time

[mint coral]

45

[earnest vine]

My confidence is now though the roof

[mint coral]

something something one of the top players took 50 and some attempts

[earnest vine]

Took me 19

I mean they improved

Alot

Still, the reason I did it somewhat quickly is probably because I have experience with other roguelikes

[mint coral]

speedy

[earnest vine]

And didn't have to learn EVERYTHING

[earnest vine]

I've played Dead Cells, Neon Abyss, Dungreed, and Risk of Rain 2 before

[mint coral]

hades was my first roguelike

[rustic vale]

50

Although

I sucked at video games when I started playing

Like all of them

[earnest vine]

I had thorough experience

Which explains it

[rustic vale]

I think roguelite experience may make you better at other roguelites

[earnest vine]

Yeah uhh

I played them ALOT

[jagged hamlet]

Thirty runs!

[earnest vine]

Confidence Stonks (I got absolutely wrecked on heat 10)

[stone rune]

26 i think

26 or 23 i dont remember

i had played gungeon before

[drowsy linden]

dam
ive had 0 experience with rogues or non web/mobile games, aside from vampire survivors(doesnt really count)

and a lot of experience with dead cells on mobile but we dont talk about that

[upper wolf]

around 30 for me

now that I think about it, I still have that save file, isn't there a quick way to check in game when I got my first win ?

[covert hare]

spread fire upgrade on rail sucks

half range and half max bullets for a damage upgrade that is not even worth it

[mint coral]

is fun on zag rail

[covert hare]

not as fun as ricochet

[upper wolf]

technically true

in that it is MUCH more fun

spread fire on zagrail is amazing

[mint coral]

ricochest is nice for hestia and that's it really

[drowsy linden]

records

[upper wolf]

I don't feel like going through my 400+ record to see when I first won tbh

maybe if one day I'm bored out of my mind

[drowsy linden]

just mash until you get to 1, then go from there

[marsh lily]

auto clicker

[upper wolf]

Hades idle

[marsh lily]

then go to your tv and watch something

[upper wolf]

what if tv sucks

[marsh lily]

go outside

[upper wolf]

... you got me there

[marsh lily]

take a shower

[upper wolf]

I feel like taking a shower outside would be a bit challenging

Never tried though, maybe I'm wrong

[marsh lily]

build a outside shower

[upper wolf]

got dynoed

[marsh lily]

dont they suck

[upper wolf]

swear filter is pretty harsh in this server

[marsh lily]

whoops

[drowsy linden]

blood and darkness

[rustic vale]

Best hammer in game

[rustic vale]

It’s way worth it

on zag rail

[marsh lily]

i like money=damage if i get lucky with chaos

[rustic vale]

Don’t curse on the server dude

[rustic vale]

Hoarding is like

A bottom tier sword hammer

[upper wolf]

hoarding is useless

[rustic vale]

No

It’s not useless

[upper wolf]

almost useless

[rustic vale]

Yes

[upper wolf]

the damage is not improved by any other source

and very low

[marsh lily]

hoarding does suck unless you are trying to do a hoarding run

[upper wolf]

and only on standing strikes iirc ?

[drowsy linden]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/915039466874372116/1189400846371409951/Screenshot_2023-12-26_185346.png?ex=659e06db&is=658b91db&hm=77d652f7a79968291e9cef8d6769c1ac797361d0778f2be4e0b68231d143295a&

[rustic vale]

The amount of obols you have to have are too much

[rustic vale]

Nope

all strikes

[covert hare]

i guess you could say its fair enough

[rustic vale]

So it is better than at least 4 other sword hammers

[upper wolf]

I made a monster u_u

[drowsy linden]

fair

[rustic vale]

But the obols you need for it to be worth it should be spent asap

Btw even with 3000 obols, dedge, and 3 dashes

It’s not enough damaage

[marsh lily]

my favorite hammer has to be Exploding Launcher

[rustic vale]

It’s great

[upper wolf]

even on a hoarding slash run the increase in damage is pretty low. Plenty of other hammers would give you more, even in such a run

[rustic vale]

I mean dedge doubles your hoarding

Pretty rad

[marsh lily]

just did a Artemis hydro Exploding Launcher run and it was crazy

[upper wolf]

Exploding launcher is amazing. It should be baseline on spear (except arthur) because the special is sooo clunky otherwise

[rustic vale]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/795659377755422742/1092918262649602058/IMG_3411.png?ex=659db573&is=658b4073&hm=c13ef1aa9ae8cd2f2be657a125165367e66753149b78a626c8f49ebea4cd0fdc&

[upper wolf]

~~actually hoarding slash is a subtle critic on greed and not intended to be good 🧠 ~~

[rustic vale]

I personally put it above 6 other sword hammers

[marsh lily]

hydraulic might i mean

[rustic vale]

spear except arthur?

also exploding launcher is built into guan-yu

That’s the best part of Guan-yu

you just need charged akewer alongside exploding launcher/GY

[upper wolf]

I meant achilles. They both start with the same letter, it's confusing !... o/-<

[drowsy linden]