Heightened Security Asphodel…
#h1-discussion
untold crown
just don't walk on the lava. ezpz
true gate
Why didn’t I think of that
Oh ye forgot that his fire mines are traps
Lmao can’t wait
latent moon
what is this
50 beo?
i mean yeah
cshot
wait how much is the hammer lmao
360?
is pstatus not online
based
yeah cshot is probably the only way you're gonna get dps at this point lmao
what god is in the shop
latent moon
i mean the other option is to purge the attack
is this dc1
dc1 ap2?
because if that's the case then i'd purge the atk solely because it's less likely to get frost strike now
and like
it's not doing much damage because of dc1 lmao
rip
oh dc0
yeah purge sure footing then
stone rune
oh i thought it was aspho
you only have 2 midboss doors
just take ares
idek
i never take it because the only time i see it is on achilles and its bad on achilles
chilly jasper
how do i build for the hera bow
restive cave
aphrodite athena artemis demeter, is this the order from highest to lowest % damage increase to an attack?
stone rune
athena and dem are the same
pos lowest
aph highest raw
at common arty averages out to more than common aph
i believe epic aph is better than epic arty assuming no other additive
because arty has 1.3 multiplicative
frosty umbra
is there anyway i can change my run count in my save file?
formal citrus
playing more runs?
frosty umbra
i wanna make it 0 or 5 or something
formal citrus
Why?
formal citrus
pos lowest
Kinda random pos is above dem and Athena special lol
gray apex
i wanna make it 0 or 5 or something
Probably best to ask in the modding discord, but I'm pretty sure you cant
You can wipe runs but not that low and technically they stay in the admin chamber records
old coyote
I got decimated by Theseus lmao
formal citrus
Do you not like frosty?
formal citrus
Infinite volley ball missiles with lucifer deflecto balls against em3 is also fun and kinda buggy
stone rune
only deflects at start of beam i believe
formal citrus
Balls not beam
stone rune
oh thats just gonna be weird if you mean when they pulse
formal citrus
Yeah it's a fun time
hexed ibex
Yoo I beat hades for the first time!!!
formal citrus
Nice nice. What weapon?
latent moon
get charoned
strong basin
i got like 30secs into that fight and was like "yeah this isnt the right build for this fight"
latent moon
i haven't fought charon in like a year or so lmao
strong basin
i didnt even know you could (i hadnt gotten the prompt thing to fight him) until my friend fought him and told us about it lol
it was a very welcome surprise tho!
latent moon
you need to clear once first before you get the option
strong basin
oh i had cleared it like 11 times before i got it
latent moon
unlucky or didn't pay attention then lmao
it has like a ~50% chance to appear in a run iirc
strong basin
i havent got it since then either but ig thats alright cuz i havent dedicated a run specifically for that fight lol
very unlucky, it seems
latent moon
i've been playing modded so there's always a charon bag there by default lmao
never take it
stone rune
you see that like 50 run with loyalty card
latent moon
i think i did see it but i dont remember
latent moon
oh wait mysterra lmao
stone rune
just all the stuff to make dad hard
latent moon
yeah that explains it
stone rune
the dad fight was 14 min 🗿
formal citrus
should have done beams
stone rune
make it 20 min
latent moon
lmao i mean tbf you can still build beams while staying shackle
if anything it'd be marginally faster
latent moon
but also im pretty sure the idea of this is to practice max heat dad fight
mint coral
What do you get for defeating Charon?
the gold you borrowed and 20% discount on his shop/wells
mint coral
pretty sure base game can't fight him multiple times
mint coral
Not if you lose even one revive
just buy the dds back
limpid ocean
charon is like harder than dad fight lol
mint coral
charon reward is better the earlier you do it
limpid ocean
yeah but that fight takes too much time too
mint coral
if you want it for like the hermes prophecy (beat charon twice in a row) is better to save charon for like ely
hexed ibex
The move where projectiles are spawned all around you tho, how do you avoid that?!
hexed ibex
Idk what I did wrong then 😭
mint coral
also charon gets easier with practice
hexed ibex
Does dash attack not count?
mint coral
dash attacks remove the iframes of the dash
mint coral
also charon gets easier with practice
his moveset never changes even on later biomes and same for the health pool
strong basin
is it just one phase?
mint coral
tho like I've said fighting him in tart is best rewards wise
strong basin
of course
mint coral
get to use most of the discount and if you die?
strong basin
one health bar is better than 2 at least
mint coral
well that was just tartarus anyways 
latent moon
oops all gold laurels
latent moon
Bruh that's not worth the fight
it's definitely worth the fight if you have the time lmao
there's not much of a downside if you win other than losing your hp and time if you're on tight deadline
but also if you learn the fight well enough you can 1) be faster and 2) lose less hp
formal citrus
there's not much of a downside if you win other than losing your hp and time if ...
Losing 3 dd seems like a pretty big downside.
I definitely want to do that fight more for variety, but I'm definitely not good enough at it yet for it to make fights go better.
latent moon
learn the fight so you don't lose them all 
formal citrus
I should definitely interrupt runs to try it out more.
formal citrus
Thanks hyp
I think I rarely have done it because I used to usually skip shops while not on the clock.
latent moon
athena DDs
latent moon
you can still get DDs in nonaspho shops
it's called not being on SD
and missing one to begin with
not everyone runs lc4 sd
stone rune
running lc4 for anyheat
i think ocaml runs sd unm tho lol
i used 5 dds in that zagrail run i posted
latent moon
i think ocaml runs sd unm tho lol
i think every unmodded player does
nowadays
just a faster reset
and youre generally good enough to just not die lmao
stone rune
every unmodded player = 3 people
latent moon
unless it's achilles
yeah i'm pretty sure
the only thing allowed is color blind mod
stone rune
that’s literally the main reason unmodded sucks to play
since you can 1erf away a lot of issues
latent moon
Give yourself half a year
limpid ocean
just took the anvil for eris.
lost giant bomb
gained quintuple special and rocket
I have art special lol
stone rune
gg
limpid ocean
my only complaint is that I only get to use it for like 1 minute of combined time until beating dad
latent moon
My question here is why'd you take hazard on eris lmao
limpid ocean
pact, never tried it before
latent moon
Approval process?
I mean assuming you took ap1 you could've taken the other option no?
If it was ap2 then my question would be why'd you take that lmao
true gate
Max ranking all keepsakes is such a grind ong
They should’ve replaced the trophy with one for escaping on EM4
latent moon
You mean one of the skelly statues?
mint coral
steam achievements I assume?
true gate
PlayStation trophies so ye steam achievements basically
stone rune
ps achievements are steam + the one for getting all the other ones
true gate
There is a trophy for getting the 16 heat skelly statue abd im glad there isn’t one for the 32 Heat but max ranking all keep sakes is just a grind and doesn’t really leave you feeling like you’ve accomplished anything when you achieve it
stone rune
32h achievemnt would be fire
true gate
I’d take that over the one I’m grinding for rn lol
stone rune
bananas would have made the 32 guide 9 months ago
latent moon
Well all keepdake maxed isn't difficult it's just time consuming and allows for different builds and more replayability
32 heat is a major road block for a lot of players and some don't even go for it
latent moon
bananas would have made the 32 guide 9 months ago
True lmao
My only incentive was boredom
latent moon
Unfortunate
latent moon
Very nice
stone rune
ok im still in position
stone rune
tis
true gate
Well all keepdake maxed isn't difficult it's just time consuming and allows for ...
In Hindsight I should’ve started upgrading keepsakes after my first few successful escapes but I decided to keep it till the end with only 11 keepsakes max ranked so far so that one’s on me
But as for 32 Heat vs EM4 I would say EM4 deserves a trophy more cause I feel the Hades fight has some story significance
latent moon
Yeah technically it's on you for not trying to diversify your keepsakes earlier lmao
true gate
And it’s a shame some people will 100% the game without hearing dad phase 3 music
latent moon
But as for 32 Heat vs EM4 I would say EM4 deserves a trophy more cause I feel th...
Fair I guess
stone rune
i was planning on doing all aspects sub8
but ive done all the easy ones now
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wIUdNaN63WJCjq1hcS5sC8S4g-easCVnx0gseyeN2Yk/edit?usp=sharing
the only decent aspects i have left are like
pos
zagspear maybe
zeus i guess
zagfists sort of
and luci
stone rune
playing game
chilly jasper
is pom blossom any good
stone rune
no
old coyote
Stupid Hydra almost got me
drowsy linden
why am i better at theseus phase 2 than i am at phase 1
stone rune
cause theseus phase 2 is easier than phase 1
drowsy linden
how though?
it looks like its just phase 1 but with more stuff
old coyote
Theseus is annoying anyway. I kill Asterius, and that little moron decides to obliterate me.
latent moon
how though?
it looks like its just phase 1 but with more stuff
when he does his god call, he's extremely vulnerable to attack
basically an opportunity for free damage
so it can technically be "easier" but if you let it run out at the start then it's harder
drowsy linden
i also take less damage overall, which is probably just a skill issue
mint coral
how though?
it looks like its just phase 1 but with more stuff
Most of the time during phase 1 you are also dealing with asterius entire health bar
Phase 2 theseus generally is just him alone
ionic hemlock
EM3 makes Theseus easier of me
That or I wasn’t used to his normal attacks after I turned it off
drowsy linden
Most of the time during phase 1 you are also dealing with asterius entire health...
no i meant theseus alone, i always target asterius
this is the wierd part for me
i take more damage during just theseus phase 1 than just theseus phase 2
sterile reef
how do i get the minotaur encounter preboss fight
i keep getting the silly butterfly ball
drowsy linden
huh, ive only ever gotten ~~stone-~gorgon-butterfly(3 times for butterfly)
actually ive seen bombers a couple times, i dont remember about asphodel
sterile reef
the entropy ball taking my chances for a secret aspect
mint coral
Asphodel is circle of witches/power couple (gorgon + stone) and barge of death
mint coral
the entropy ball taking my chances for a secret aspect
Knew it
Getting hidden fists is the most annoying imo
drowsy linden
oh then ive only seen butterfly across my 3-5 runs
sterile reef
aw
mint coral
Is also just 3 heat at max
latent moon
guys is jury duty suppose to be a downside
At low heat levels it's fine but if you're gonna go higher then it sucks a lot
sterile reef
i got butterflies again
still python
huh, ive only ever gotten ~~stone-~gorgon-butterfly(3 times for butterfly)
dont complain
mint coral
@untold crown #h1-victory-boasting message
old name of divine dash
untold crown
ah ok
sterile reef
how many times do you talk to the minotaur for the dialogue
to get the secret thing
mint coral
in theory just twice
first to get the dialogue by having the fists equipped then then the second for the actual phrase
in practice with how the dialogue system works it could take way longer
sterile reef
im trying to get to the fist equipped dialogue
untold crown
you gotta get guan yu first and reach the endboss at least once. I don't think you have to clear it, just beat styx. also have to put at least 5 titan blood into the fists. assuming you've already done all that, then yeah you just have to keep encountering asterius with the fists equipped until he gives you the waking phrase
might take one try or ten
sterile reef
it took so long but i got the first message
latent moon
Now do it again
formal citrus
What does Olympus Extra's Hestia's attract do?
stone rune
presumably same as rip current and engulfing vortex
tribal sierra
Sea storm chiron was definitely not the play for me
formal citrus
Darned bolt cooldown
brisk trail
compact dawn
Theseus is annoying anyway. I kill Asterius, and that little moron decides to ob...
He's just not fun at all to fight
Not hard, just boring
Exact same thing with Little Vermin
90% of the fight is it just tunneling underground over and over while I strain my eyes to see it on the screen underneath all the glowing poison and adds
old coyote
He's just not fun at all to fight
Yeah exactly
storm vine
Hey how do you make orpheus appear for the first time I’m trying to get the keepsake
storm vine
I tryed it doesn’t show up
sour fog
Reach Asphodel
Fountain Chamber, Tartarus
Fated List of Minor Prophecies
prerequisites for the order
storm vine
I ALREADY DID ALL THAT
sour fog
then it should show up after convo with Hades where he mentions it
storm vine
Oh
hybrid hedge
are any of the hidden aspects good?
latent moon
roughly half of them are good lmao
hybrid hedge
https://hades.fandom.com/wiki/House_Contractor
WHAT IS CHAMPION MORT? HEH
latent moon
max bond thanatos
hybrid hedge
oh sick i love thanatos
latent moon
are any of the hidden aspects good?
shield, bow, rail, spear, and sword are worth going for
will say that rail and spear need a specific hammer to feel good, sword is very hit or miss as to whether or not you'll like it
hidden shield and bow are some of the best aspects in the game
hybrid hedge
shield, bow, rail, spear, and sword are worth going for
will say that rail and s...
what does spear need to be good
latent moon
hidden fists is one of the worsts
latent moon
what does spear need to be good
charged skewer
main talon
arent fists good with the right build
hybrid hedge
hidden shield and bow are some of the best aspects in the game
is hidden bow better than hera?
latent moon
hidden rail doesn't exactly need a hammer but it's a whole lot better with it
latent moon
is hidden bow better than hera?
depends on your play style
hidden bow is a lot more difficult to use and learn
if you want to put in the time and effort to learn hidden bow very well, then it can be than hera
hera will nearly always be better than hidden bow for speedrunning, but for pushing heat rama is much better by a long shot
hidden bow is still really good at speedrunning, but it's a lot more difficult to get a low time
main talon
Dionysus is definetely one of my favourite gods
hybrid hedge
why does shield knock back
but seastorm
main talon
why does shield knock back
Idk but works well with zeus aspect
stone rune
no because it is being miserable on zeus for me at this very moment
latent moon
why does shield knock back
well have you tried smacking someone with a shield
stone rune
have you tried shooting someone with a gun
latent moon
well they wont get knocked back they'll just crumple
also it's probably like "shield atk sucks so we'll give it knockback" lmao
stone rune
zag is making ufn of me
i got like an 834 and when i resat he said "wonder if i can get out any faster"
🗿
strong ridge
ummmm ackshualy that is top tier characterization sorry bub
agile basin
oh sick i love thanatos
this interaction made my day, btw 
hybrid hedge
this interaction made my day, btw <:friendly:459075377617436683>
thanatos is gnarly
stone rune
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wIUdNaN63WJCjq1hcS5sC8S4g-easCVnx0gseyeN2Yk/edit?usp=sharing what do i di next
limpid ocean
two hermes questions:
- can you get 4 hermes boons in a single run?
- for rush delivery / hyper sprint combo, do you get the bonus during the dash as well?
mint coral
two hermes questions:
1. can you get 4 hermes boons in a single run?
2. for rush...
3 hermes is max
Wanna say just after end of dash but not sure
stone rune
you get it during the dash
mint coral
Ty
agile basin
Oml hades with lag is so difficult 😭
is your lag stutter of lag, or the game is just slower?
stone rune
That's what I get for having a potato laptop 🫠
try lower res
agile basin
I used to play with like, 25 fps
fishing was extremely easy, and my times were also lower
hexed ibex
Game goes slower, then it like goes faster and then again slower
But also my mouse
It teleports a bit
💀
agile basin
ooooh, thats reeeally bad then D:
you can make the resolution lower, as jazz said, and you can also make the game look a bit worse by addin lines on steam, altho, that can bug the game if you go too hard on it
hexed ibex
And also the reaction time is different
It takes a bit to like hit an enemy
After I click
Or like block with the shield
Which is the most annoying part, cuz I get hit by stuff I could just block
I'll see what I can do with the resolution
latent moon
yeah def do something with the res, stuff like that is gonna make it a lot more difficult to play the game lmao
limpid ocean
bc it applies to dash strikes
so yeah, my pr 43 heat zeus shield build would've been able to clear at far higher heat if it had merciful end combo instead then
(that build cleared because it had explosive return with 100% hyper delivery and ddash, I already played it like I had ME even though I didn't)
now obviously, getting explosive return, hyper delivery and ME all in the same run and be able to clear the earlier areas before getting the combo boons would be hard af but with some luck it's doable
stone rune
that's only 97% additive
halcyon girder
Hold up special for Guan yu is very good
latent moon
I gotta level up my special attack boon then
charged skewer hammer gives you a free 200%
stone rune
multiplicative
latent moon
if you want the funny big number, charged skewer + artemis special + hell chaos additives is the way
brisk trail
What’s your guys opinion on the best platform to play on?
latent moon
I mean the only downside is that you can't bring it everywhere like a switch lmao
Xbox and PS can look better I guess idk
latent moon
if you squint hard enough it'll look 1024x1024
stone rune
brisk trail
pc
that’s what I thought thanks
some people said switch but I found that hard to believe so I figured I’d double check
main talon
My only wish was that switch tracked achievements
latent moon
some people said switch but I found that hard to believe so I figured I’d double...
i mean being able to play it on the go is always a good thing, pc can't really do that
main talon
laptop best platform
latent moon
me pulling out my laptop in a car and playing hades
getting a 3rd degree burn on my thighs
brisk trail
I mean the only downside is that you can't bring it everywhere like a switch lma...
steam deck
agile basin
hey, there is a hammer that is bugged with the flurry jab?
stone rune
?
agile basin
do any hammer makes flurry jab atak slower?
stone rune
shouldnt
serrated will make the dash strikes weird but it just makes them do the serrated thing
agile basin
sorry, just realized that im sleepy and im not even fully understand what am saying 
but thanks, I feel like I remember someone saying something about a hammer that makes other hamer not work properly on the spear
formal citrus
my switch definitely runs smoother than my laptop for playing. Less delay. Could be I need to tweak settings.
stone rune
thats a laptop issue
my laptop works perfectly well
at 1920 i still hit 360 most of the time
and 1024x1024 100% of the time
agile basin
thank you, boss baby*
main talon
if you have 1000 euros spare
main talon
what do yall think is the hardest fury fight
worn crag
blades r annoying
like the ares blades or the arena blades
stone rune
the ones alecto shoots
worn crag
the ones alecto shoots
btw your username is frightening also nice pfp
tribal sierra
I find Tesiphone sometimes annoying but all them do be pushovers
pallid saffron
Hello, someone know how much lifetime the game had when it first released in early access ? And do you think it will be the samme for hades 2 ? 🙂
sour fog
first it was epic exlusive for like a one year
and if you look up what it was like it was in rough state
then it came to steam when it was more developed
and it was two years in EA I think
after that
nope, just one year
two in total
pallid saffron
ok thank you
and how much playtime could you have, I think you could kill hades since the early access but it was like 10 hours to succeed depending on the player I guess
in terms of story, it was limited as well compared to what we had at the release
true gate
I’ll be honest Hades and maybe Charon are the only bosses I enjoy fighting
Luckily Hades in particular is just such a great boss
pallid saffron
there was only hades at the beginning of early access I believe
sour fog
and how much playtime could you have, I think you could kill hades since the ear...
I haven't played during EA but from what I've seen the first EA was only up to the Hydra
stone rune
untold crown
curious why ppl use flood over trippy on beo
quiet lily
beo wants to repeatedly pick up a cast after using it, trippy sets an aoe on a timer
flood and crush don't have such a cooldown.
That and Mirage Shot, because that's alot of damage.
latent moon
curious why ppl use flood over trippy on beo
trippy stays on the ground for 5 seconds, which is too long to use infernal soul, so you use stygian soul
so now you need to get more casts from chaos lmao
flood is just faster and takes substantially less rng to get a duo
mirage shot bug kinda strong
if the mirage shot but didn't exist, then passion flare would be used over trippy anyways
formal citrus
When all those trippy duos come together, it's a good time. But yeah, definitely not as fast.
latent moon
on beo, ice wine is more harmful than helpful because of the explosion delay
scintillating feast idrk because it's generally not worth going for if you want to one shot enemies with the flare
your scaling is mainly just pom bug and mirage shot lmao
formal citrus
okay the delay is real, it's not me tripping
the lightning is really nice if you're not comfortable with enemies (esp bosses) and running away while it does its thing
I've definitely been less keen on trippy as I've gotten better, but at a certain point it was what I was by far the best with (though mostly on Hera, which I guess is even weirder).
latent moon
okay the delay is real, it's not me tripping
yeah from what i heard, the delay from the ice wine explosion on flares is the same delay as when you normally throw an ice wine cast
formal citrus
makes sense
latent moon
so basically ice wine is always better than normal trippy shot unless you're on beo or hera
makes it a lot faster on everything except those two
formal citrus
much nicer user experience on that one, yeah
latent moon
well it's the same issue as beo lmao
except you get less scaling because it doesn't have pom bug
unless you get perfect rng rooms, crush shot hera is gonna outpace trippy hera
like louts room or skullomat room
formal citrus
what're louts and skullomat? Guessing names for styx friend?
you gotta understand my psychology of always having EM4 on, so going for a perfect build that requires 3 duos makes sense
I think my most fun Beo run had scintillating, sea storm, and mirage, and two special hammers.
sour fog
what're louts and skullomat? Guessing names for styx friend?
louts are the charging fat guys
mint coral
what're louts and skullomat? Guessing names for styx friend?
Lots fat dudes in tart that lunge at you
Skull o mats are the mountains that summon numbskulls
sour fog
skullomat is the skull pile that spawns skulls
formal citrus
louts are notable because your hera casts get stuck in them?
latent moon
the enemies i listed are for trippy flare
because you can one shot them
i think
probably
for crush shot you have 2-3 casts iirc
formal citrus
I feel like a lot of the discussion here centers around how to go fast when most new people are here to discuss how to survive.
mint coral
They aren't separate skills tbf
formal citrus
stuff that benefits one definitely benefits the other
usually
but the nuance was definitely something I found confusing when I first got here
latent moon
trippy is just so much more inconsistent than crush shot that it's not worth using
slow runs just means more room for mistakes, and a bad trippy flare build is a lot of room for mistakes
it's not uncommon to not see chaos ever and not get any extra casts in wells
and not getting the hermes boon quick reload or whatever
you could play it as bad zag bow but it's still extremely slow
the 5 seconds of down time is gonna cost you a lot of hp starting ely
formal citrus
relying on luck when I was worse and going for 32 was something I didn't mind
latent moon
i mean that's fine if you want to put in multiple runs and attempts
formal citrus
bad news was some nice synergy too
latent moon
you're bound to get a good run at some point
formal citrus
I found it easier to use because fire and run away a whole bunch was something I could manage and fire and run in to collect wasn't.
latent moon
it's just that i wouldn't be surprised if someone said they took like 10+ tries for a trippy hera/beo run lmao
latent moon
I found it easier to use because fire and run away a whole bunch was something I...
did you not run td or something
formal citrus
0TD EM4 get at me
latent moon
yeah that explains it lmao
also "run in to collect" is only an issue if you dont one shot them lmao
formal citrus
I'm not sure if doing "easier" heats would have been easier for me
latent moon
well em4 is definitely not an easier heat
latent moon
fair tbh
formal citrus
also "run in to collect" is only an issue if you dont one shot them lmao
hard to one shot everything at once for me
latent moon
i was skeptical of that one at first and then when i tried it i was like "oh this is free" lmao
latent moon
hard to one shot everything at once for me
well for one trippy hera prob didnt help lmao
unless you got mirage shot i guess
formal citrus
But yeah, trippy hera 32 heat was very fire, dash around and try not to take damage, fire, dash around and try not to take damage
formal citrus
well for one trippy hera prob didnt help lmao
I ran crush shot before I "discovered" trippy
trippy felt much easier when I found it, but is not how I'm pushing heat on hera anymore
formal citrus
Right, but if there's 4 things and I only hit 3 of them and I'm too scared to grab my casts
missing was definitely on the table
I still somethings shot the wrong direction because I start heading the dash direction too soon
that malarky is annoying
latent moon
controller?
formal citrus
yeah
I gave kbm like two tries. It was rough when you've played on controller for so long.
latent moon
lmao fair
wispy sinew
So r the bosses random? I died went was like ok defeat Meg again but it wasn't her
mint coral
they have some variations depending how many runs you have done
tart boss is the easiest to notice
wispy sinew
I got ya I vs murder? I didn't pay attention to her name cuz she was weird but it threw me off big time
pastel monolith
shes my favorite
tisiphone
i like how she resets it makes it easier to get her
wispy sinew
She seemed like she glitch alot where I can get easy kill
But at first I thought I was screwed the one mirror perk saved me cuz she rocked me
storm vine
Who here plays hades
stone rune
what's that
storm vine
It’s a game
stone rune
never heard of it
storm vine
Dang
formal citrus
💪
shrewd patio
I just beat charon in hades
I didn't know about this fight... I genuinely though he was letting me ||borrow the money||
peak carbon
I did too first time
shrewd patio
rip that run
storm vine
First time I did it I won no joke it’s easy
peak carbon
How do I give dusa more ambrosia after getting fidi
orchid raft
What is this thing i see in the rank system: "Hades Monthly Challenge"?
stone rune
you get pings for something that used to happen
orchid raft
"Used to happen" so it no longer happens? So its pointless then?
stone rune
yeah
orchid raft
Dang i wonder what the challenges were even
stone rune
pinned in #h1-builds-and-combat
sweet thorn
Does giving up help with rotating the first blessing?
sweet thorn
Quite violent
peak carbon
You could just use the keepsake of whatever gods boon you want
stone rune
yeah thats the main method
peak carbon
I'm p sure that the general strategy is to pick a god keepsake first
That's what I do anyways
stone rune
99% of the time you do
crimson lodge
@brisk trail Not sure if you have to kill her/them but I think she only appears if your last run had Meg as the one you fight
But she may not appear every time
That's what I've seen, I could be wrong though
wispy sinew
For getting rewards from codex I'm getting all the gods perks from boon I'm I grab and five up does it count or do I just die an counts?
mint coral
Give up doesn't work
wispy sinew
Ok thnx will just go see if what I need in boon then die
latent moon
Wdym
sterile reef
2 uses of first demeter boon
main talon
no murder, zagreus said after brutally murdering someone with a fully automatic ancient greek hand cannon
worn crag
nice username
worn crag
ngl it go hard
chilly jasper
whats the best cast to use for hera bow? dionysus or aphrodite prob?
raw herald
Aphro cast
chilly jasper
aight
old dawn
dusk garden
what characters do yall recommend to give necter too
orchid raft
what characters do yall recommend to give necter too
To everyone besides Hades, unlock all the keepsakes
upbeat walrus
.
I just got a new clear record with Talos fists wtf
13:39 in game time
I know it’s not fast but it’s 17 seconds faster than my previous record (Eris 13:56) and my best run (Beowulf 14:00 with 4 sack)
dusk garden
I love the fists
My tier list of weapons (no aspects, just general fun)
- Fists
- Shield
- Gun
Sword is for grinding
dusk garden
Love the game
Zagreus is like the first person I find hot ngl
brisk trail
Vin? Who's your favorite god?
dusk garden
Don't really have one
Athena is cool
Hypnos is also cool
Nyx has paternal energy
brisk trail
I meant mainly like the people who can give you boons, but whatevs.
My favorite's Artemis.
dusk garden
Artimes is cool
I also like Dionysius and I love a ares looks
brisk trail
Dionysius was the first god that I beat Meg with back when I first played the game.
I had him on my dash and I just poking Meg with chip damage.
dusk garden
Athena and posidean I beat Meg with most frequently
brisk trail
Athena probably has the most useful boons.
dusk garden
Deflect fists my beloved
brisk trail
Dude, Bow and reflect will reflect everything.
brisk trail
Also one of the different bows is like a lock on gatling gun. You hit them once and then all of your special arrows will just track down the enemy.
dusk garden
I don't have any titan blood atm
Because i am new
I think I Enchanted the shelf with Zag
brisk trail
How far have you gotten so far?
stoic token
This has been my favorite game since release. ive been replaying recently and addicted to the soundtrack on spotify.
Is there a channel for hades 2 hype? because im like, unreasonably excited 🙂
found it haha
brisk trail
This has been my favorite game since release. ive been replaying recently and ad...
Hey! It's recently become a candidate for my favorite game too.
I'm still gonna have to think on it. I've already said to some people (including on this server) that it's my favorite, but I'mma have to still sit on it for a bit.
I'm rambling, sorry.
stoic token
Hey! It's recently become a candidate for my favorite game too.
I'm still gonna ...
no worries! its really the only game where i've specifically looked for the soundtrack to listen to in my commute
i think that qualifies enough haha
brisk trail
Honestly, you don't really need a reason for a game to be your favorite.
Like, yeah, it's good to have a reason so it doesn't just change all the time, but at the same time like just frick it, you don't need to have a reason.
stoic token
yeah exactly, just about what YOU like 🙂
brisk trail
What's your favorite song from the game?
stoic token
rage of the myrmidons for sure, or the eurdice solo version of good riddance
that solo is what made me stick with the game
running into that room, i was literally taken aback
stoic token
What's your favorite song from the game?
and it wasnt until then i actually listened to the rest of the soundtrack
hard to pick one, a lot of the elysium songs are amazing
brisk trail
For me it's also all the songs from Eurdice and Orpheus. I love those ones.
stoic token
For me it's also all the songs from Eurdice and Orpheus. I love those ones.
Oh yeah, its clear there was a lot of effort into the versions of that song, and its nice how it tied together in the story
brisk trail
Yeah. Two best Hades ships: EuridicexOrpheus and AchillesxPatroclus.
stoic token
oh 100% the achilles and patroclus i loved too
replaying it again now and im still in love with the voice work too
brisk trail
What about, who's your favorite character?
brisk trail
My favorite is Dusa. I relate to her so much.
stoic token
oh i totally get that, definitely a great character
brisk trail
And I also really love Hypnos.
Like I did a ranking of the character:
Best Girl - Dusa
Best Boy - Hypnos
Good Boy - Cerberus
stoic token
haha im so glad i can pet cerberus in between each death
brisk trail
Yeah! That was the first part that really made me go "oh yes" when I first played it.
brisk trail
Yeah!
marble whale
i hate tisiphone
latent moon
Mood
dusk garden
i wish there was a way to give keybinds to specific weapons
brisk trail
What are you trying to do with the keybinds? There might be something.
dusk garden
I wish there were a keepsake that gets you more hammers or smth
dusk garden
Skelly my beloved
brisk trail
i want to put reload on right click
Yeah, I'm pretty sure you can bind it to that. You just then have to bind whatever the right click does (I play on controller so I don't know) to the reload button.
brisk trail
am i the only Hell mode player here?
sharp stone
Idk how Darren Korb did it, but after many months of singing Lament of Orpheus, I still cannot hold that long note on "drowning"
molten cairn
What's your favorite song from the game?
Sorry this is late and not directed at me but i love On The Coast 🥹 whenever people talk about the music part of the game i just gotta mention it bc its so good
tepid yacht
Idk how Darren Korb did it, but after many months of singing Lament of Orpheus, ...
oh same, i’m more of a belter so holding a head voice note for that long kills me 
dusk garden
is there a way to see what weapons you defetaed and got the item from
mint coral
Before the first escape you hav to keep track manually
dusk garden
Achilles spear is cool
backstabs non-stop
can spears deflect with athenas (when it has been thrown)4
brisk trail
latent moon
can spears deflect with athenas (when it has been thrown)4
if you mean like when the spear is just chilling there waiting to be recalled, it shouldn't
because it's not doing any damage while it's sitting there
the luci hell fire ball pulse thingies will deflect because those pulses do deal damage when they're just sitting there
when it's being thrown, it will deflect for that duration until it stops
main talon
you know your doing good when your cast does 1000 damage
latent moon
sounds about right
shrewd patio
Saw a thumbnail on youtube saying "Rama special spam + zeus is insane", so I tried it... they were right, it's pretty insane
latent moon
i do love budget delta chamber
shrewd patio
wha
latent moon
i mean it's basically the same build path as rail
except it's zeus special instead of zeus attack for rama
and delta chamber is bugged such that you get full iframes on dash strikes
shrewd patio
hmmmm, I see
latent moon
like special spam rama will work because you're basically playing rail at that point without the bomb lmao
shrewd patio
well, the attack is a big chonky hit, like the bomb with that rocket hammer
latent moon
the attack also takes a whole lot longer to pull off
and you can't use your special during that time
shrewd patio
tru.. but its worth it also, cause of the saranga(?) thing were they all get the damage
latent moon
i mean yeah ofc
but if we're just doing special spam rama then the attack isn't really worthwhile lmao
if you do want to play rama how god intended then yeah it's super strong
just got a bit of a learning curve to it
shrewd patio
what learning curve... "press q quickly" heheh
latent moon
the learning curve is using the attack not the special lmao
i feel like special spam rama would time out at higher heats
haven't really tried it to confirm but it's just really bad zag rail at that point
shrewd patio
oh I see... I'm still around heat 4, didn't even consider that time limit one
latent moon
i mean tight deadline 3 probably isn't an issue with it as long as you get static discharge and good poms on it
but once you start putting on jury summons, calisthenics program, and em3 then time gets a lot more tight
latent moon
funnily enough, special spam lmao
aphrodite/artemis special and pray to god you get the charged skewer hammer
latent moon
yeah straight up ignore the spin attack even tho that's the main gimmick
the best part is the special
lunar terrace
elden ring
peak carbon
Finally platinumed the game
tall holly
tbh I don't like spear
hera crush shot fire imo
aphro cast, pos dash, pom stacking + hyper delivery
tall holly
idk I like pos dash
stone rune
screws up grouping
tall holly
just in general
latent moon
tbh I don't like spear
extremely based take
spear sucks
imagine being hammer dependent to feel useful
stone rune
okay beo player
latent moon
beo works fine without hammer
stone rune
you said feel
latent moon
i mean it honestly feels fine without lmao
unless i'm going for speed
but at that point most aspects want a good hammer
stone rune
well if ur not going for speed achilles is fine without flurry
because u can just start cast
latent moon
nah it still sucks
tall holly
spear sucks
tbh it's not being hammer reliant, it's just that none of the aspects feel very useful or broken
stone rune
tbh it's not being hammer reliant, it's just that none of the aspects feel very ...
sounds like not an achilles player
tall holly
I mean Achilles is okay
stone rune
🗿
stone rune
funny former wr holder and first sub5 aspect
latent moon
tbf hera and beo are a lot easier than achilles lmao
latent moon
achilles needs brains and button smashing, beo and hera are just a little bit of brain for big boom
tall holly
achilles needs brains and button smashing, beo and hera are just a little bit of...
precisely why I liek
latent moon
i've been getting into achilles very recently (like 2 days) and it's honestly been kinda fun
just ignore the 2 40 heat runs i threw
tall holly
I used to enjoy pos sword
stone rune
ive been playing pos recently
tall holly
idk if I should be ashamed or not, it was kinda fun tho
latent moon
pos sword is kinda based
stone rune
tall holly
the only thing I dislike is that it's kind of annoying to make a build out of bc it doesn't power up the cast much it give it an ability, it just makes cast builds easier
stone rune
do i just take it
tall holly
hyper delivery or memes
stone rune
well it's basically grey rd
stone rune
42s lernie 🗿
tall holly
bro at this point dad is the easiest boss lol
stone rune
well yeah but also that lernie sucked
tall holly
what colour
stone rune
but like dad is one target and u have damage
latent moon
wave maker head is annoying tho
latent moon
i mean just by how the heads spawn
stone rune
well pink is definitively the worst
tall holly
how so
latent moon
yeah the other heads lunge forward or immediately goes for a headslam
tall holly
green is annoying bc eggs
stone rune
what eggs
tall holly
spawn
latent moon
it spawns extra enemies if you leave it lmao
tall holly
they potentially can do damage bc they blue
I've lost runs to them, never had problems with pink
latent moon
well pink is an issue for speedrunning, not difficulty
stone rune
oh well in terms of like not dying idk
latent moon
arent they unarmored
unarmored if small head, armored if main boss
dusk garden
i wish there was a fast way to grind keys
agile basin
all the grind in hades is kinda slow
only thing you have to do is fish and always watch for the current deal from Wretched Broker
brazen cargo
any new news regarding Hades 2? It seems like SG announced hades 2 and went dark.
brazen cargo
ah alright, thanks
tall holly
#h2-discussion as well for community
spring rain
Heeey
can I undo titan blood upgrades? I upgraded my spear but I don't like it tbh, the new mechanic isn't as good as the old one
mint coral
can I undo titan blood upgrades? I upgraded my spear but I don't like it tbh, th...
Normally you can't
Are you in the backyard still or mid run?
spring rain
I'm still in hades house
mint coral
If you haven't go back to zag's room after upgrading the weapon, start a run and press give up
As long as the game doesn't save that will put your save back before you used the blood
spring rain
oof then its too late, I upgrade this a while ago
cunning niche
can I undo titan blood upgrades? I upgraded my spear but I don't like it tbh, th...
which spear
mint coral
If it's talking about new mechanic is prob Achilles
spring rain
bruh why can't we send images in this chat
spring rain
which spear
also isn't there only one spear?
cunning niche
also isn't there only one spear?
i mean aspect
spring rain
achilles
mint coral
Knew it
cunning niche
i thought it would be hades
mint coral
Hades doesn't change compared to zag spear
cunning niche
being forced to spin against every enemy is a change
mint coral
Not a moveset one
spring rain
oooh wait I hadn't undertood the achilles thing right
it only pulls me when I press Q twice
if I attack instead of pressing q it will do everything normally
mint coral
You don't get the buff if you recall it
spring rain
You don't get the buff if you recall it
wdym
mint coral
wdym
Using achilles spear special to dash to it buffs your next 4 attacks/casts
Starts at 50% dmg buff at lvl 1 and maxs at 150%
If you instead press attack so the spear comes back to you, you dont get the buff
spring rain
oh true I just did 200 damage with a spin
peak carbon
Oops
I love spear*
Getting a maxed out Achilles spear and a good cast is genuinely insane damage
Having said this I loathe beo so I'm an anomaly
I feel like Hades spear could be good too but it's so slow to setup spin
spring rain
I feel like Hades spear could be good too but it's so slow to setup spin
true tbh
spin is not that good
but does good damage
I LOVE SISYPHUS
peak carbon
Spin dmg buff is insane and for ten seconds is god tier
But just getting the damn thing set up is genuinely hard to do without being smacked
Achilles spear supremacy fr
spring rain
I prefer bow tbh tbh
spring rain
programming momento
cunning niche
But just getting the damn thing set up is genuinely hard to do without being sma...
really
pastel monolith
The debuff it inflicts doesn't work for spin attack
oh sweet irony
im stuck at hades progress on my PBs rn.. im getting a lot better at em4 at least
mint coral
Tfw achilles is a better aspect if you wanna meme with spins lol
pastel monolith
im trying to just increase my heat best on every aspect.. i have a bunch at 32 so i go for 33 and i just keep dying lol
maybe i just need to try more times
mint coral
Yeah
Just keep playing
Also have you escaped yet?
If not should prob go to #h1-for-new-players to avoid spoilers
peak carbon
Pro tip if you haven't escaped: Athenas dash and ares' attack boon will clear the game ezpx
mint coral
Unlock
spring rain
Pro tip if you haven't escaped: Athenas dash and ares' attack boon will clear th...
that's rng based, if I could choose what I can pick I would get atena dash every time
mint coral
Your mirror/keepsakes help a lot
spring rain
Again, how do I unlock that area tho
oh now it works
mint coral
Again, how do I unlock that area tho
Is unlocked after the credits (10 escapes)
Also if you are having trouble have you tried god mode?
spring rain
Is unlocked after the credits (10 escapes)
what
you have to finish the game 10 times to unlock that area?
mint coral
Is basically a small lore area
spring rain
ooof
dude that's absurd
the later areas in the game destroy my frame rate
And the bossfight in elysium is impossible
languid ruin
I actually just got to ten escapes today!
pastel monolith
what are u playing on ..? ive never noticed a problem with frame rate.. ive heard some ppl say switch is slightly bad at times but not thst bad
languid ruin
it’s worth it
languid ruin
what are u playing on ..? ive never noticed a problem with frame rate.. ive he...
I got a switch lite .. it’s ok I mean the frame rate will sometimes spike but it’s not 2 bad yea like u said 🔥🔥
pastel monolith
And the bossfight in elysium is impossible
main tips for that besides get better.. kill the bull before getting thesues to half health.. if u accidentally get thesues to half health and he starts using summons, finish him off asap them go back to the bull
languid ruin
Also ten escapes sounds like a lot at first but it becomes easier 
pastel monolith
thesues is realy not bad to get used to.. he only has 2 moves.. just hang arouns the pillars.. the blue pillars are best bc tbey are slightly bigger.. same with the minotaurs charge rush move
spring rain
what are u playing on ..? ive never noticed a problem with frame rate.. ive he...
My computer, some rooms in asphodel and in elysium destroy my computer
languid ruin
main tips for that besides get better.. kill the bull before getting thesues...
Oh yeah 100% focus on the bull *before Theseus and make sure u have multiple lives + skelly’s item
spring rain
making it almost impossible to react
dusk garden
whcih
pastel monolith
also when u get to theseuss next phase.. when he starts summoning u can really lay into him for a few seconds as he does his call hes wide open
spring rain
main tips for that besides get better.. kill the bull before getting thesues...
I got to kill the bull once but I died at the end of the fight
languid ruin
SORRY not Theseus
dusk garden
which mirror stuffs should be green and which purple for a strong build (maxed out)
mint coral
Mirror guide pinned in #h1-for-new-players iirc
pastel monolith
the bottom 4 except maybe gods legacy
spring rain
Does theseus goes to hades house after I murder him? I hope he does
I hate him a lot
pastel monolith
everything else red prety much usualy
spring rain
lame, he deserves eternal suffering
languid ruin
My favorite boss battle is the bull fight tbh since the king and the bull is my favorite song + the cheering and when both u and Theseus use the god calls it’s so 
mint coral
When you are finally able to beat him you can bully him
spring rain
My favorite boss battle is the bull fight tbh since the king and the bull is my ...
I felt betrayed
mint coral
He gets so salty the more you defeat him lmao
pastel monolith
also when u beat elysium boss the second time.. u can start saying hi to the one zagreus fan after the fight.. doesnt do anything but its a tradition to say hi to him every time
spring rain
When you are finally able to beat him you can bully him
contemplates downloading mods just to see him getting bullied
languid ruin
I felt betrayed
tbh yea especially when I had that god’s call for one of the runs I’m like damn ur helping him now ?💔💔
mint coral
Have you used god mode? The dmg reduction might be enough so you still can clear
spring rain
does he use the same boons as you use or nah?
spring rain
Have you used god mode? The dmg reduction might be enough so you still can clear
I'm using it
imma farm damage reduction by dying a thousand times
languid ruin
does he use the same boons as you use or nah?
I don’t think so?
mint coral
does he use the same boons as you use or nah?
He can summon any god that you dont have in that run
spring rain
If I get all of the gods
mint coral
Defaults to artemis iirc
pastel monolith
i dont recommend god mode unless ur really really bad or just impatient and dont care and u just wana get thru the game for the story or something.. it gets easier with practice and learning and stuff and its rewarding ... in my experience.. i was a very slow learner at hades
languid ruin
Only one god call per run I think
pastel monolith
took me over 50 runs to get my first clear
spring rain
does he steal boons that are given to me?
mint coral
i dont recommend god mode unless ur really really bad or just impatient and don...
I mean their device seems to lag a lot
languid ruin
Yea device issue
spring rain
does he steal boons that are given to me?
Like he finds a boon a god was trying to give to me and say "no no mine"
pastel monolith
god mode is fine.. its perfectly acceptable.. i wont judge u too much lol
mint coral
does he steal boons that are given to me?
At half health theseus summons a random olympian that you don't have a boon from
Also to be more specific
You normally can only have boons from 4 different gods + hermes/chaos
spring rain
I know what happens in the bossfight, I'm asking how
pastel monolith
i never realized he only gets gods u dont have.. what happens if u have every god already i winder.. like with a mod or somethin
mint coral
Defaults to artemis iirc
@pastel monolith
pastel monolith
oh
mint coral
I know what happens in the bossfight, I'm asking *how*
Gods just decide to help him
I think zag and achilles talk about that
pastel monolith
i think artemis is one of my favorites .. just stick to the edges and ur good
spring rain
Gods just decide to help him
damn what a backstab
mint coral
Don't remember if the reason is "is funny" or "we help anyone who asks"
Theseus was still a hero after all
spring rain
I was expecting him to be racist to the minotaur tbh
pastel monolith
im definitely in the minority on this but theseus is one of my favorite npcs.. i like his snobby aarogant confidence
spring rain
I was expecting him to be racist to the minotaur tbh
but him not being racist doesn't make him a likeable character 
languid ruin
Double boons room moment
I found this rlly silly cause it rlly reminds u they’re Greek gods
spring rain
He's fun to hate
top 10 characters I would dropkick
pastel monolith
i paid so little attention when i was a beginner.. first several times i fought that boss i thought theseus was a lady with a bow lol
languid ruin
😭😭
spring rain
first time I played
before I upgraded my computer I had to lower the resolution A LOT
Zagreus looked like a dog
languid ruin
I had to restart my first game but I picked it up last week and I’m glad I did and finally got the ending
The only thing I have to do now is finish thanatos relationship
peak carbon
that's rng based, if I could choose what I can pick I would get atena dash every...
Always try to get those is what I'm saying
languid ruin
Every time I accept Athena’s boon and I don’t see the dash in there I cry a little
I think my first legendary boon was from her tho and it was what helped me beat hades the first time
pastel monolith
yeah that dash is always the best choice lol
tidal dash is great too but i sometimes find the knockback effect annoying and inconvenient
languid ruin
tidal dash is great too but i sometimes find the knockback effect annoying and ...
Yeah same I was kinda eh about the knock back