Sources are not as dominant as the image we usually study though ^^
#h1-discussion
calm wigeon
pine prism
g-girls with d?
rich horizon
i like that! she shouldnt be just female beauty yk? everyone can be beautiful
tired karma
vital spade
Also young angelina had very sculpted cheeks look again
calm wigeon
All I'm saying is that beauty changes with the conventions adopted at the time beauty is discussed ^^
tired karma
pine prism
maybe they are just build different
pine prism
i can't relate
tired karma
it's like a very tiny line
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/0a/dd/e2/0adde2000b77659b46d1af5f29d6a692.jpg
vital spade
Bruh look how sharp her cheeks are lol ur cappin
tired karma
with meg and aphro the line goes inside
it's like there barely any skin there
that's why they look old
feral belfry
tired karma
no, sunken cheeks = old
and no young person would have sunken cheeks, unless they are very unhealthy
calm wigeon
i'll tell that to my 15 year-old self 🥲
feral belfry
Why we talking bout cheeks
calm wigeon
Cause apparently character design is an issue, I dunno xDD
tired karma
why would I be intimidated by someone with bad cheeks, lol
you confuse high cheekbones with sunken cheeks
angelina jolie is an awful example that doesn't fit at all
feral belfry
Clappin cheeks
tired karma
aphro is like willem dafoe
her cheeks sunk so hard to the point that her zygomatic bones stand out
this is what happens in old people
tired karma
yes, Artemis
vital spade
Bouldy has rock hard abs
steady dove
Btw mods disable archivements right?
gray apex
Btw mods disable archivements right?
I dont think so
green drift
Has anyone had such a thing when Hades not regenerates himself fully in third stage?
frosty lodge
With third stage you mean after you depleted his health once, right?
green drift
twice*
frosty lodge
Ah. Extreme Measures, I assume. I have no experience with Extreme Measures 4, sorry.
rustic vale
Has anyone had such a thing when Hades not regenerates himself fully in third st...
I mean if you managed to hit him before the bar visually hit full then it wouldn’t go all the way
green drift
This happened two times in a row for now and the amount of missing HP was the same
regal inlet
What’s a scylassion, just got one for the first time
rustic vale
What’s a scylassion, just got one for the first time
Legendary fish in Tartarus
gray apex
A legendary fish
regal inlet
Huh, cool
rustic vale
50:50 chance off of a perfect catch to get one
regal inlet
What counts as a perfect catch?
rustic vale
If you catch within .34 seconds
regal inlet
Wow, that seems a bit strict… might make sense when I find out how much I get from selling this
rustic vale
Focus on hearing rather then seeing the bobber imo
Also keep track of how many times it’s bobbed under because it’s never going to be more then 4
regal inlet
Will do, thanks for the tip!
void vigil
please dont post fanart without posting a link to the source, thank you!
vital spade
You’re welcome
unkempt dove
I love how as soon as I think where is persephone I get the first dream sequence
vital spade
‼️
runic meadow
are mods easy to install? if I were to install the game on windows since I own it on xbox
I'm assuming they're from steam workshop tho 😔
tired karma
Very easy
Like under a min
They from nexusmods
vital spade
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1036258237420412940/1062126978787971173/H...
Persephones garden weeds are the true final boss
That would be funny if you beat 64 heat and you get to go back to the garden and that’s the final boss
bronze forge
are mods easy to install? if I were to install the game on windows since I own i...
i think you wont be able to get steam achievements doe
vital spade
The biggest achievement is the friends we made along the way
rich horizon
I've gotten three duo boons offered to me thus far but blown kiss hasn't been offered once 😭 this run was literally just farming for blown kiss, that's the last boon I need to get to finish off aphrodite's prophecy
sturdy scroll
Does anyone know if I can complete an achievement on Switch and have it show up on Steam? Like if I get the achievement for using a God's greater call against them in a trial, but I fulfill that requirement on Switch, will I get the achievement on Steam the next time I boot the game up, or do I have to fulfill that requirement again on Steam?
toxic trellis
Persephones garden weeds are the true final boss
Nah, the garden tools are a teaser for Shovel Knight True Final Boss
toxic trellis
Listen, it’s not a bomb-ass indie game if it doesn’t have 1) fishing, and 2) Shovel Knight
So far we have one
toxic trellis
Caught a Charp
vital spade
Aren’t there legendary fish in this game
Do you get anything special or just like an achievement or something
toxic trellis
When giving them to the head chef, he gives you stuff like Titan’s Blood, Ambrosia, Diamonds
fervent jewel
aspect of chiron and ZEUS boon for technique was broken
the most fun I had with the bow i think
i think it ended up being so fun none of the other things i tried worked for me
mint hatch
I'm running out of build ideas
runic meadow
is Chiron aspect bow op or am I just really good
i just beat extreme measures 4
🤪
glossy coral
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/002/094/581/42b.jpg
honestly, that's kinda how i imagine hades's and zag's relationship with each other... minus the part where hades is the villain
glossy coral
is Chiron aspect bow op or am I just really good
what heat were you on?
runic meadow
what heat were you on?
10 I only had the extreme measures thing up
i tried with traps damage up first but I got oneshot by the hand pot
lol !
banger
i hate this game because i wanna do like a run or two and end up playing until 2 am
glossy coral
i tried with traps damage up first but I got oneshot by the hand pot
I hate that one cuz it's like deceptively hard.
And then you get stuck in lava in asphodel or hit by an incoming arrow from elysium and are filled with hatred.
brazen mulch
Aspect of Chiron is amazing, it's arguably the best aspect for the bow
latent moon
Aspect of Chiron is amazing, it's arguably the best aspect for the bow
it's literally the worst lmao
doesn't make chiron bad
but it's just not as good as the others
toxic trellis
Aspect of Hera go brrrrr
latent moon
hera's good for speedrunning and midheat, rama is good at high heat (and speedrunning if you're good)
rich horizon
laughs in never used hera, used rama twice, and zagbow twice
latent moon
zag bow i have no clue but it's decent at both of those things i think
chiron doesn't excel in either speedrunning or heat
but it's pretty good for casual play and it's really fun to use
brazen mulch
it's literally the worst lmao
Wait really?
brazen mulch
Whoops
brazen mulch
I should've upgraded Hera lol
latent moon
hera works fine at every level
just use crush shot and pom the crap out of it
and then get quick reload or whatever that hermes boon is
so boss fights aren't unbearable
brazen mulch
Man if only I could master Crush Shot lmao
latent moon
well hera solves every problem crush shot has
which is the short range
crush shot has high damage but short range
hera fixes the range problem
toxic trellis
Crush Shot is Dionysus, yes?
toxic trellis
Ahh
brazen mulch
Wait got a question, so Aspect of Hera is better with Infernal Soul right?
latent moon
yeah
unless you're using trippy flare, but it's generally not worth using trippy flare
brazen mulch
Since Stygian Soul can't be rapid fired unless you get extra cast stores
latent moon
yeah
brazen mulch
I see... I am learning so much more about my terrible choices in Hades...
latent moon
lmao it do be like that
brazen mulch
At least I did the right thing and upgraded the right things for Exagryph and Malphon
I only got Aspect of Eris on the rail
And got Aspect on Talos on Malphon
latent moon
you did not make the right choice on fists
brazen mulch
~~you did not make the right choice on fists~~
Wait really?
I thought Talos was good
I haven't unlocked its legendary aspect yet btw
latent moon
it's not really
brazen mulch
I got Aspect of Demeter too by mistake
mint hatch
Demeter special go brr
latent moon
the pull makes the special longer and more sticky, and doesn't really add much damage (unless you're building around the cast, but it's marginally beneficial)
brazen mulch
Good thing I didn't invest too much so I can focus more on Demeter's aspect instead
latent moon
dem is much better in the sense that you occasionally get a nuke
brazen mulch
the pull makes the special longer and more sticky, and doesn't really add much d...
Ah, I was thinking that Talos is much better than Demeter because it takes away the main drawback of the fists
And that's the really low range
latent moon
i mean like half the time it works
the other half the time you can't pull them because they're bosses
brazen mulch
the other half the time you can't pull them because they're bosses
Oh yeah true, it doesn't work with bosses
Can you guys suggest me which aspects are the best to get, not including Legendary Aspects
Since I wanna get all of them
latent moon
sword: nemesis
spear: achilles
shield: zeus
bow: zag or hera
fists: demeter
rail: eris or hestia
brazen mulch
sword: nemesis
spear: achilles
shield: zeus
bow: zag or hera
fists: demeter
rail...
Nice thanks
I'm focusing right now on upgrading Eris as much as possible
runic meadow
for chrion what's better
brazen mulch
Since 75% damage up is insane
runic meadow
the hammer enhancement that makes you fire more arrows or the one that increases subsequent hit damage?
brazen mulch
the hammer enhancement that makes you fire more arrows or the one that increases...
Second
It stacks more damage
runic meadow
understandable
latent moon
the hammer enhancement that makes you fire more arrows or the one that increases...
conc volley is best chiron hammer
in every situation
mint hatch
That feeling when you have no dd left and you find patroclus
bronze forge
how many heats is skelly's second reward
latent moon
16
regal inlet
How do I get the locked heart for Hypnos?
brazen mulch
How do I get the locked heart for Hypnos?
No clue I'm playing the game blind lol
You'll get to it eventually
rustic vale
the hammer enhancement that makes you fire more arrows or the one that increases...
Concentrated if it’s more then level 3
rustic vale
How do I get the locked heart for Hypnos?
Check Hypnos page on the wiki for the favour
“Completing Hypnos' favor involves witnessing a series of events between him and Thanatos. To start, Hypnos will tell Zagreus that Thanatos has said some things to him that make him feel as though he's displeased his brother, and Zagreus states he will talk to Thanatos on Hypnos' behalf.
After Zagreus confronts Thanatos about Hypnos, periodically between runs Zagreus will encounter the brothers engaged in conversation. Thanatos will repeatedly criticize Hypnos' work ethic until finally seeming to discover a way to help Hypnos focus. Thanatos then praises the quality of his brother's improved work and apologizes for treating him badly. Afterward Hypnos will thank Zagreus for speaking to Thanatos, completing his favor.
Other characters shall comment on quality of Hypnos' work. Dusa will ask Hypnos how he managed to keep the shades orderly and moving swiftly, but he will not divulge his secrets. Hypnos shall one day have his picture on the wall in the Lounge.”
brazen mulch
This sounds so wholesome
rustic vale
Every character that you can gift (other the Bouldy) has their own favour to complete before you can gift them more
brazen mulch
He’s with Sisyphus
I mean like how can you start talking to Bouldy
rustic vale
No not always
ivory swan
I currently can't
runic meadow
you need to reach a point in sisyphus's conversations where he starts mentioning bouldy
raw herald
You want level 10 snurst with a shackle zag flare
rustic vale
3.14159
mint hatch
What's that in the top right
quiet lily
sword: nemesis
spear: achilles
shield: zeus
bow: zag or hera
fists: demeter
rail...
Beowulf is best shield, change my mind.
brisk trail
wow you can fight ||charon|| thats so ebic 
quiet lily
I read legendary and throught it was in refernce to boons, since gods were named alongside aspects.
latent moon
Beowulf is best shield, change my mind.
I'm not going to
Beo is easily the best until like 61 heat
Beo is contendor for best aspect in the game lmao
Lmao
Beo did 60
I guess technically yeah
But like point still stands lol
Beo is better until an extremely high heat point
Both
I'm pretty sure it does
If I was on my laptop I'd check lmao
I'd take lunge
Magma doesn't count as a trap does it
HS specifically mentions both separately doesn't it
It could if you got every skip
Idk I'd take it
Just don't step in magma
Lmao
Just don't step in it tbh
brisk trail
is there anyway to ensure i can get the charon boss fight?
brazen mulch
is there anyway to ensure i can get the charon boss fight?
Nope
latent moon
you have like a 50% chance of seeing it in a run
brisk trail
is hades aid even all that good
brisk trail
oh word?
latent moon
mainly used with Merciful End and castpects
because they have high burst damage
could probably make a case for clockets on rail
small call is 1.5 sec, big call is 5 sec
brisk trail
man the thing with this game is i came from ror2 where you can just pick everything up and it works
here theres like certain ways to make things work
latent moon
i mean anything can work until a certain heat point
it's just that the more outlandish your build/idea is, the more skill you need to execute it
brisk trail
or you do what i do and put together what seems good on paper and end up with a mediocre build
rustic vale
I mean it’s pretty simple to put together decent builds that aren’t meta tbh
If it have big hit, it use big +%
If it have fast hit, it use flat damage
Good on paper, good in practice
*And avoid pos on strike and special
brisk trail
that much i know lmao
rustic vale
that’s all you really need for putting together a comprehensive build
thorny mirage
*And avoid pos on strike and special
unless…
rustic vale
and it should work well enough
latent moon
poseidon on special not bad on like rail rocket tbf
other than that i'd avoid it on everything
unless to open up various duos
rustic vale
poseidon on special not bad on like rail rocket tbf
Any +% is good on rail rocket
rustic vale
hera takes tempest flourish over tdash lmao
Ew
brisk trail
I mean it’s pretty simple to put together decent builds that aren’t meta tbh
If ...
so what would be good boons for something like fists
latent moon
flourish makes it easier to set up wall bug on dad
thorny mirage
so what would be good boons for something like fists
Fast hit
rustic vale
so what would be good boons for something like fists
Doom strike-> athena special -> Merciful end -> divine dash
Zeus strike -> aphro special -> zeus or dio call -> smouldering air
Dionysus Strike -> aphro special -> low tolerance, make sure you put like 600 poms on dio strike
Top to bottom in dps, bottom to top in terms of consistency
The duos aren’t necessary but they are really useful
brisk trail
welp i got zeus right out the gate so...
rustic vale
welp i got zeus right out the gate so...
Should be forcing gods in via their keepsakes
for tartarus and asphodel
Unless you’re leveling other keepsakes
rustic vale
Not necessarily
Building ME is probably best dps but also uber rng reliant
The other build options are better if you don’t want to get annoyed by rng
mint hatch
You can't go wrong with a standard Zeus setup. Try to get his legendary asap.
rustic vale
Tbh static discharge is more important then splitting bolt
thorny mirage
Jolted is 
latent moon
doom strike is actually the worst for fists until you get merciful end
then it's basically the strongest in the game lmao
thorny mirage
splitting bolt is just cherry
latent moon
doom strike is bad until merciful end in general really
rustic vale
Doom strike is uber rng reliant
thorny mirage
Doom feels really bad until ME yeah
brisk trail
latent moon
dem or zag by the looks of it
brisk trail
zag 💀
thorny mirage
Second probably
latent moon
just take kinetic launcher for prophecy tbh
rustic vale
Just take a prophecy hammer
thorny mirage
True
latent moon
actuall
latent moon
yeah just dont use the special
on dem you'd actually want to use the special and you dont want to debuff that
and on zag you dont really special
so take quake cutter
rustic vale
You aren’t losing out from having a neutral hammer on fists
One that doesn’t really do anything
latent moon
just take whatever and figure it out later lmao
tired karma
Nah
I didn't read any meta and did just fine
latent moon
same
tired karma
Picked whatever felt cool
high island
doom strike is actually the worst for fists until you get merciful end
then it's...
Where did you get that from that it's the worst before Merciful End? That's definitely false.
tired karma
It's pretty good even without me
latent moon
i guess it isn't bad it's just more frustrating to use when you're building towards ME and you dont get it
if i know i'm not gonna end up with a duo and i have a choice between those 3 options, it would probably be my last pick
brisk trail
i love how athena give me anything BUT divine dash
latent moon
if your other core boon slots are filled, her next boon is guaranteed to give dash
core boon meaning atk, special, and cast
in this situation
high island
i got it from myself
Comparison of rare Attacks at Lv.1 on Zag Fists. Was when the first strike in Zag Fist's 5-hit combo still had bonus speed in early access, so the others would be a little more behind. #h1-builds-and-combat message
latent moon
funky
tired karma
In my fastest run I got me only right before theseus and asterius fight
Ares strike still shredded enemies even before me
high island
Hades Strike lmao.
rustic vale
Hades Strike lmao.
I use that for 100% of my runs
bronze forge
extreme measure hydra is my least favorite boss
normal hydra is my favorite boss
wth
tired karma
Wait till u try extreme measures hades
zealous sparrow
I love using a build that has Poseidon for EM3 heroes and watch them die to Rupture
Or other stuff in Elysium to die to rupture
carmine wraith
I find EM3 easier than normal because no shield lmfao
bronze forge
Em lernie actually makes the fight faster
das true
i just dislike it
its not hard or anything
its just very ew
high island
https://prnt.sc/kgHK6bQ2Qxge
Is that a question?
Razor Shoals.
Also lol at Innie sending links too fast. 
carmine wraith
Even worse is using lightshot in 2023 rip
high island
Bot will un-mute after a couple minutes. Or can DM a moderator and ask them to un-mute you.
latent moon
if this is beo i'd take wave pounding because boss damage funky but otherwise shoals
actually is wave pounding less preferred than shoals on beo
high island
Might depend on when you get it in the run.
latent moon
true
high island
Razor Shoals for Asphodel sounds comfy.
latent moon
true
high island
Will also help with Mirage Shot odds to get it out of the pool.
latent moon
for me, bull not phasing at the same time as thesius kinda makes it a pain and i figure more boss damage would help me there
high island
You were supposed to write "true" again.
latent moon
true
snow skiff
false
bronze forge
goddamn bot
im trying to conversate here
anyways
theres something about having no death defiance and close to dying that encourages you to play well
tired karma
And when u still die it feels worse
bronze forge
but you dont die, it feels incredible
when*
i killed ||rambo|| theseus and have been getting a lot of poseidon boons
this too
how do i get these enemies
what are they
tired karma
Th*seus
latent moon
how do i get these enemies
not getting savior is just rng, Burner is asphodel only
savior can occur in every biome
tired karma
It's so fun and entertaining to watch new players on twitch dying to basic stuff for some reason
carmine wraith
because you remember you used to die to that stuff too lol
lunar condor
Just recently got back into Hades and it’s still as addicting as ever
Also wanted to ask what everyone’s best build is
Dunno if I should ask that here or the other channel
latent moon
depends if you're going for heat or speedrunning lol
lunar condor
I was also considering any build that’s the most fun but sure
latent moon
"fun" is subjective considering i like following meta builds that actually deal damage, others like to use other stuff that they think is fun and dont like following the meta lol
lunar condor
What’s your best build for higher heat?
latent moon
me personally i like abusing beo bugs
latent moon
What’s your best build for higher heat?
at like 40+ passion flare beowulf is what i'd use
lunar condor
Ooh I actually like using that one too
latent moon
funky part of passion beo is that it's like one of the few builds that can actually make good use of pstatus lol
and i like the funky sound
lunar condor
Nice
The builds with the high instantaneous damage are the ones I like the most
Know any other builds like the one you mentioned?
high island
It's so fun and entertaining to watch new players on twitch dying to basic stuff...
Me watching the younger generations of high heat players die to "Lernie tax".
high island
goddamn bot
For the future, you can put multiple image links in the same message and it's fine.
mighty hornet
does rarity matter for flood shot if im doing an achilles build?
high island
Not really. Are you doing a Flood Shot build or just adding it to the build?
mighty hornet
fs build
high island
You'll want to go for Blizzard Shot, then.
mighty hornet
no mirage shot? but instead with grandma?
high island
Right. Blizzard Shot first. After you have that, you can maybe open up Mirage Shot and see if you can get it, too.
mighty hornet
got it, thx
high island
Mirage Shot is only ever a build priority on Beowulf.
Because it's bugged to do 100% damage on "Flare" boons instead of 30%.
mighty hornet
Because it's bugged to do 100% damage on "Flare" boons instead of 30%.
ah right, the unfixed bug
still kinda new to the game, can you recommend some achilles builds besides blizzard shot and hunting blades?
high island
Nyaanyaa's Achilles Guide (for Newbies)
For Achilles, a simple and powerful build is Tidal Dash start, then look for either Lightning Strike + Static Discharge or Deadly Strike + Hunter's Mark. Lots of poms on Tidal Dash and on Static Discharge/Hunter's Mark.
If you didn't find Lightning Strike or Deadly Strike naturally in Tartarus (avoid picking up other Attacks), take the Thunder Signet into Asphodel to get Lightning Strike. If you already have an Attack, take the respective keepsake into Asphodel to get Static Discharge/Hunter's Mark from them. If you already have that, too, you can just take Coin Purse into Asphodel for some extra cash.
Also look for any t2 boons from Poseidon that buff his dash. Ideally Breaking Wave, but Razor Shoals etc. are good, too.
When you enter Elysium, equip the Evergreen Acorn for the rest of the run.
Best hammer by far is Flurry Jab. If you want to be optimal, you'll avoid any spin hammers because they'll prevent you from getting Flurry Jab later in the run. (Since Flurry disables spins, so they're incompatible.)
high island
what about some casts that are good on that spear?
You can make a good Cast build with any Cast tbh.
mighty hornet
sure then, thank you again
high island
Here's a general Cast build guide: #h1-builds-and-combat message
mighty hornet
alright, will check it out
flat bloom
silver ravine
Hey so I have been on a run with chaos & got bonuses for my coin gain. Afterwards I got the hermes' "side hustle" boon, yet I am only gaining 10 coins per room. Is this by design to prevent players from accumulating too much wealth? I had 65+45 % extra coins and thought it was a smart choice, but I'm getting less than half of the coins I thought I'd get... :/
[edit: the bonuses work with troves, pots, enemy drops and rooms so idk why not with hermes' boon]
halcyon girder
I find it odd that the gods adore Zagreus but still want to kill them just because Zagreus choose the other boon instead of theirs
tired karma
They are very petty and love to get all the attention
If you pick someone else they see it as a threat/you disliking them
Basically they have brains of a teenager
halcyon girder
Then there's Aphrodite
How do I unlock the gods locked heart
Dion, Aphrodite,Artemis are locked
void vigil
https://i.imgur.com/GgZTaaG.jpg
again, dont repost fanart without linking to the original source. also, this would go in #fan-works or #h2-discussion
silver ravine
Yeah but I wanted to see how many coins I could get :d
Also I believe it's more likely that it just wasn't implemented, not a bug. I'm not sure tho
solar vault
there's similar things with life affirmation not affecting than centaur hearts I believe
silver ravine
Also I got 420 coins at once at some point
Hm, isn't a bug something like an error (or something unplanned) that happened because of something that was implemented? 🤔
high island
Very sure those interactions, or non-interactions, are working as intended.
rustic vale
How do I unlock the gods locked heart
Complete their specific favours, can be found on their wiki pages
Than hearts aren’t classified as room rewards I’d figure
Which would explain life affirmation not working on them
sonic fulcrum
Hm, isn't a bug something like an error (or something unplanned) that happened b...
i would still call that a bug; implementing something (in that case bonus to gold) and not adding some specific gold sources can perfectly work under your definition (if it was intended to be added, i have no idea if it really was). It's not like the feature wasn't added at all.
rustic vale
I feel like obol +% not working on side hustle was intentional tbh
Not really any evidence though, more of just a feeling
sonic fulcrum
probably, my answer was more about the "bug" definition.
rustic vale
Mirage shot icy flare 
tired karma
again, dont repost fanart without linking to the original source. also, this wou...
It's just a random picture from google that works as a meme
Weird to search for the name of the author just to post it
First server where I've encountered something like this
Hades 2 channel also doesn't open the pics like this one
Making it just a link
tall trench
For hestia heart rend, do you guys prefer arty attack aphro special or aprho attack arty special?
chrome heath
Consistency: Aphrodite
BigBoomDamage: Artemis
tall trench
Arty has done pretty well for me but yeah I usually have to prioritize stacking attack ups
I do notice that between shields and inconsistency a lot of damage gets wasted on overkill
I think aphro would come out ahead on normal rooms where a good rng arty would edge out on bosses
brisk trail
anyone got a good rama build?
thorny mirage
anyone got a good rama build?
tall trench
Does mirage shot work if you purge poseidon's cast and replace it?
rustic vale
Does mirage shot work if you purge poseidon's cast and replace it?
Mirage shot isn’t specific to poseidons cast
You don’t need poseidons cast to get it
you can get it with any cast
And it works with any cast
tall trench
Oh, my bad, I should have checked if the qualifier for poseidon was limited to his cast, that's just the only circumstance I've personally gotten it in
But yeah, makes sense, I figured you could since the effect isn't cast-specific just wasn't sure
Thanks
I took his cast as a throwaway because underworld customs has been heartbreaking on this run, but then the mirage just happened to show up
UC is like free heat until it's suddenly not lol, but I didn't put the odds in my favor by passing up too many boons on Tart and asphodel, I ended both floors with hardly anything I'd want to purge
brazen mulch
https://i.imgur.com/GgZTaaG.jpg
Where is this art of Melinoe from
brisk trail
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1057825367987077130/1062385684347891742/image.png
running doom on malphon, is this worth keeping?
high island
Are you building for Merciful End with Doom on Attack?
brisk trail
mhm
high island
You'll want to get Merciful End before you pick up Impending Doom, generally.
high island
Wouldn't purge it though tbh.
brisk trail
having impending doom before ME doesnt mess me up tho?
high island
For hestia heart rend, do you guys prefer arty attack aphro special or aprho att...
You'll want Heartbreak on Hestia, ideally. You don't usually go out of your way to build for Heart Rend, though. You'd want Hunter Dash from her first (unless you have Tidal Dash).
And then probably Zeus' Aid for Smoldering Air.
high island
having impending doom before ME doesnt mess me up tho?
It could slow you down a bit if Doom damage is high enough to hit certain breakpoints without it, but it can also speed you up a bit when Impending Doom makes the difference to hit breakpoints.
I wouldn't worry too much about it.
tall trench
You'll want Heartbreak on Hestia, ideally. You don't usually go out of your way ...
Yeah this makes perfect sense with my experiences/intuition. I had a good run with heartbreak strike, the consistent damage was high enough that I never missed the crits even on bosses and it feels more consistent to build since it's not as thirsty for extra +% attack. Agree about heart rend not being as essential, I don't even rotate the special in very often without a good hammer for it.
Also switched to fiery presence for hestia and think I'm gonna keep it
Hunters dash always feels like the top pick for hestia for me over tidal, but I haven't tried tidal on hestia, I think it's just easier to build without trying to chase the knockback buffing goodies
high island
You'll want to use the Special as much as possible to add damage.
So that's every other Reload.
You can just press Reload + Special at the same time.
high island
Hunters dash always feels like the top pick for hestia for me over tidal, but I ...
Tidal Dash start is faster, but Heartbreak Strike start and picking up Hunter Dash and/or Smair along the way is strong and great for high heat.
Tidal Dash start speeds up Tartarus a lot.
round canopy
Guys I’m trying to complete the night and darkness quest and I’m wondering if I can just kill myself over and over again until nyx gives me the dialogue I want
old dawn
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1057825367987077130/1062385684347891742/i...
keep and keep fishing for ME
ME makes it super good
since it's a free dps boost then
bronze forge
achilles is my favorite aspect
tired karma
Me on fists is like candy party in your mouth
vital spade
bronze forge
extending jab or triple jab on achiless
bronze forge
yeah
raw herald
What attack boon
bronze forge
zues
raw herald
Triple
brisk trail
how much would yall make fun of me if i said i put dash on right click
earnest coral
how do u do strong attacks??
toxic trellis
You know, that makes a decent bit of sense
brisk trail
how do u do strong attacks??
shift
earnest coral
oh ok
brisk trail
You know, that makes a decent bit of sense
how so
high island
how much would yall make fun of me if i said i put dash on right click
Do whatever works for you. 
earnest coral
does anyone know how to unlock hearts with hypnos? he's the only one i'm needing
brisk trail
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586685090474491914/1062424190751350865/image.png
oh good heavens
earnest coral
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586685090474491914/1062424190751350865/im...
thats the power of right click dash?
brisk trail
i guess so
i used the same button for jump in hollow knight and for some reason it just feels right
high island
does anyone know how to unlock hearts with hypnos? he's the only one i'm needing
Just gotta go through a lot of dialogue with a variety of characters.
brisk trail
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/764541705403760700/1062424893389545582/image.png
my friends too sus for this world
earnest coral
not this gif 💀
brisk trail
im a bit of a comedian
brisk trail
oh hell nah
earnest coral
and it has a public area in front of it
i feel bad for nyx fr
she's always in front of the door
brisk trail
what if he still had the sigil of the dead on...
"I hear you, boy!"
tired karma
Hades has orpheus near him to blast some music in his ears
Feel bad for nyx who stands right next to zag's "door"
rich horizon
we don't get to see the hallway between zags room and the east hall, I like to pretend it's like a 3 minute walk from there to his room
tired karma
Nah
Meg even comments on it and asks why he doesn't have any doors
earnest coral
she does?
earnest coral
oh i didnt got that dialogue
tired karma
To be fair zag didn't have any action going on for a long time (or at all)
So he didn't bother to make doors
old dawn
no sprints
kindred onyx
ITS HEAT 32 AND IVE GOT 7 MINUTES PER BIOME
I really gotta go fas
I am required to proceed at an accelerated pace
vital spade
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586685090474491914/1062424190751350865/im...
One time it was literally like 31 of my kills and than got 0 lol
Dude got rekt 
brisk trail
here we go
im so done.
AND NOW THE GAME WANTS ME TO USE STYGIUS HAHA PLEASE KILL ME
old dawn
you should activate windows
brisk trail
i aint payin fuh dat
old dawn
that's why
kindred onyx
NnnoooooooOooooOOOOOOO!
I was 👌 this close
I could’ve done it
I still had 5 seconds left - I could do that
I just used my ares called which destroyed that pot and it grabbed me just as the call ended
God damn it
kindred onyx
I’m doing heat 32 for the first time in my life
It’s like…
I’m two attempts from actually finishing it
I’m always just that little bit short of something
bronze forge
brisk trail
if i have aphro on attack for nemesis, who should i put on special, or should i swap my attack?
old dawn
defo not heavy knuckle there
bronze forge
ceoncentrated den
old dawn
yea if survivability isnt a concern and/or you have global damage boosts
bronze forge
survivaibiliy is a concern
rustic vale
if i have aphro on attack for nemesis, who should i put on special, or should i ...
Arte on special
For heart rend
old dawn
ye
bronze forge
knuckle den
brisk trail
any good boons for chaos shield?
latent moon
aphrodite attack, zeus call, smair
find charged shot hammer
if you dont get offered zeus call, take any of his other cores and dio call if you find it
brisk trail
yall what if i just pump mad iron so i can go as zag for halloween
latent moon
ignore the special
latent moon
yall what if i just pump mad iron so i can go as zag for halloween
have fun with that
brisk trail
i mean yesterday was already arm day
now i just need to do like
billions more arm days
and maybe learn how to be artistically talented
visual sand
better not skip leg day 😤
brisk trail
4 names are credited for cerberus
tired karma
yall what if i just pump mad iron so i can go as zag for halloween
you can always go as skelly
hm, hades is my most played single player game
with 172 hours
bronze forge
Hades is the first game in my life I’ll 100%
brisk trail
you can always go as skelly
damn, low blow 💀
solid bane
Doing my first EM4 run
"Alright I've gotta be careful. Don't plan for buying the Titan's Blood this time, just focus on making a solid build, you'll have to be-"
">306 health pre furies"
">with the Adamant Rail"
or not
annnnd rolled Triple Bomb for Lucifer Rail
Let's go
carmine wraith
306 health pre-furies?!?!
jfc
Isn't that actually like, bad lol
Would mean you have like no boons at all
brisk trail
Ye
willow wedge
mans gonna be doing that run till 2024
solid bane
not at all actually
I got an Erebus gate for double hearts, then picked up a Premium Vintage, rolled nectar out of two troves and bought a heart
Now at 356 going into Lernie
Epic Tidal Dash to pop the Lucifer Bombs feels so good
Now just gotta focus Ares for Dire Misfortune and/or Impending Doom and this might be one of the best builds I've had in ages
solid bane
Speak of the devil, got both
and yes, strike
Heartbreak Flourish for bomb
Are screenshots of in-progress runs good? Don't want to clog the channel.
latent moon
They're fine just don't spam the channel
solid bane
latent moon
Don't send it in #h1-victory-boasting either
solid bane
yeee
Just doing the one because lol lmao
Oh, wait, I'm still new I can't upload images XD
latent moon
Image link
solid bane
Curse you, adequate server protections.
latent moon
It's not because you're new it's because you have to send image links
solid bane
listen I was just trying to finish levelling the butterfly for maxing keepsakes
solid bane
Ruthless I'm back and forth on - For me, the damage buff afterwards feel very satisfying. Certain boon dashes make me regret it immensely - such as Poseidon right now XD
latent moon
Ruthless is just never a good pick tbh
solid bane
Ares Attack is because I don't use the attack on the Lucifer Rail much, and prefer to play slow and focus on the Special - so having a quick pop to apply a doom every now and again works better for me. My preferred boon for it is Zeus, but once I rolled Triple Bomb, I really just wanted it as a slot filler to roll tier 2 boons more effectively.
Impending Doom+Dire Misfortune makes it just as good as Zeus for single target now, at least. Biggest thing is just another status to proc Privilege, but then I rolled Razor Shoals anyways
I'm mostly shocked you didn't call me out for Vitality instead of Dark Regen lol
Think I might switch back into Greater Reflex after this run. I miss two dashes 
Also, am I crazy or is the EM3 fight actually easier then the base fight
Really? Huh. The vibe I was getting from reading online was that people preferred Dark Regen. I never saw any meaningful use case for it, since your biggest Darkness drops are from bosses, when you get a fountain after anyways.
Also, nothing more satisfying then dropping Theseus before he finishes his first call
latent moon
Really? Huh. The vibe I was getting from reading online was that people preferre...
Basically that yeah
Also darkness doesn't win you runs lol
Dark foresight works directly against dark regen
Also styx
solid bane
Yeah. At my stage of the game, I've actually been debating turning Dark Foresight off back to generate "more" meta currencies(I've gotten almost everything meaningful, now it's just grinding gems and darkness for decorations and resource director), but I feel like it's actually faster to get more meta currency by just having your better build let you beat the game quicker
latent moon
You get more meta game currency if you clear faster
You also won't end up with crap builds
So you'd actually win
solid bane
Yeah. Been debating popping a few 0 heat runs just to get a bunch of darkness fast, but I figure that I may as well go until I hit a wall. I'm currently on like...28 runs clear in a row? Might as well see how long I can ride the wave at this difficulty curve.
I do have God Mode on mostly as an insurance - a way make sure I'm still getting the late game currencies while having a metric for myself to see if it was impactful enough(It's not perfect, but my self metric is beating Hades with all DD intact)
Overall though, been really enjoying everything it's got. Have had to put the game down to laugh at least half a dozen times.
My "in-game" streak is at like, 35, lol
I know it's meaningless, but I like tracking it for myself :P
Also, speaking of Ruthless vs Greater Reflex, and Stygian vs Infernal Soul
My previous rogueli(k/t)e has me always lean towards it being better to take the risk for a high roll - but I'm starting to feel that Hades is actually more about consistency. My heart tells me that I should be grabbing Ruthless and Stygian, to try and roll into getting more through Chaos and Hermes, but my brain is telling me that the other two might just be better in this.
I could also just be stupid, though.
latent moon
ruthless is just never a good take, too many builds and weapons need the double dash to be good and consistent, which you mentioned being important
stygian vs infernal frankly doesnt matter much unless you're playing a castpect
at that point, infernal is basically always better unless you're playing trippy, and then again, trippy isn't very consistent
solid bane
Yeah, I always switch to Infernal for Hera and Beowulf. Well I guess just Beowulf now, I never take Hera since I got Yama
latent moon
the only times i've seen ruthless reflex picked is with gilga because you already get an extra dash or whatever, and beowulf high heat against em4
and even at that point, MiKe said ruthless even isn't great for that fight
solid bane
In fact, the only weapons I haven't gone all in for the Hidden Aspect is Spear and Fists - I go Hades(But I really want to try out Achilles again since I've gotten better at Spear), and Demeter for the fists(Used to be a Magnetic enjoyer, but realized it's more effective to just murder things then stack +50% damage)
Speak of the devil, there's MiKE
gray apex
the only times i've seen ruthless reflex picked is with gilga because you alread...
It depends on your playstyle, for me it just wasn’t worth it in the dad fight because I focus so hard on bullrushing, I don’t rely on dashing away from stuff so it wont proc, I’ve had long fights where it proced like 2-3 times, I also like dash sliding and it feels kinda comfy when you have to strip dc, you can just jump from enemy to enemy smoothly. It’s tough to compare the two, the window for RR also isn’t massive so you could proc it but be forced to play defensive for a few seconds afterwards so you don’t end up making use of the buff. I might prefer RR for Heroes and Lernie tho, for heroes it’s quite better as long as you keep in mind what Theseus is doing and target him when he stops, if you don’t you might have to chase him around which can waste all that time that you made up from the extra damage lol. For Lernie the arena is just small you can just bullrush all over the place and get RR procs from everything.
Just clarifying
Might’ve said something similar before
solid bane
also, just a note
HE CALLED THE DOG ON ME?
Wew. I don't think I'll do EM4 on most runs; Lucifer is the best weapon for my playstyle at the moment. Maybe after a few more runs through when I learn his attacks a bit better(Plus not having any weapons high enough on Heat to do it without exceeding Bounty anyways)
brisk trail
does increased enemy % also mean more money
carmine wraith
Do you guys prefer aphro or arty for hestia?
rustic vale
does increased enemy % also mean more money
Yes but that doesn’t mean it’s good
rustic vale
Do you guys prefer aphro or arty for hestia?
Iirc aphrodite on attack then artemis on special is hesty gameplan
rustic vale
Ps inconsistent plus the enemy should be dead by the time you’ve hit them with attack and special
rustic vale
Free obols
solid bane
I'm in debate of if I hate Crush Shot or Crystal Beam more
latent moon
Would +90% dash strike be really good on hestia?
yes
rustic vale
Would +90% dash strike be really good on hestia?
Good
latent moon
I'm in debate of if I hate Crush Shot or Crystal Beam more
at least with crush shot you can still apply boiling blood
solid bane
Yeah but at least Crystal Beam has range
latent moon
Or is that too inconsistent
dash strikes with hestia aren't that inconsistent because you're more or less doing it anyways
latent moon
Yeah but at least Crystal Beam has range
and does like minimal damage
solid bane
Having to deal 8 runs with Crush Shot to get Blown Kiss to roll was pain
and then only to discover with Blown Kiss it was still bad
solid bane
Crush Shot is bad because I dislike using it's pitiful range for bad damage and having to play with it that many times made me dislike it even more over time lol
latent moon
Crush Shot is bad because I dislike using it's pitiful range for bad damage and ...
tmw it has the literal highest damage for a cast
rustic vale
The main crush shot using aspect wouldn’t even pick up blown kiss since it would literally be useless
latent moon
also if you have to pick up crush shot for blown kiss, why didn't you just use hera
sonic fulcrum
crush shot have good damage, and you have some weapon that let you use it without the usuall drawback (beowulf, hera); it's fairly good
rustic vale
crush shot have good damage, and you have some weapon that let you use it withou...
Beowulf doesn’t have crush shot
latent moon
so can't use that
solid bane
I didn't have Hera yet at that point lol
I focused prophecies before learning Aspects existed lol
rustic vale
Crush Shot is best hera cast because it solves the range problem and crush shot has best damage and applies weak
I mean
solid bane
And yeah I'll fully agree there
My Crush Flare run was amazing on Beo
rustic vale
“Best damage” there are arguably other casts that do better damage on hera but you don’t end up chasing your cast forever or high rolling if you’re using crush shot
solid bane
Mmm
Me using Stygian on crush Shot runs was absolutely a skill issue on hindsight
rustic vale
Stygian on anything other then trippy shot/flare
latent moon
poseidon with crush shot is a valid thing to use
chrome heath
Plus, its Aoe
rustic vale
Crush shot doesn’t have a range issue if you use hera
Crush shot also is super beefy on all the other castpects thanks to their +% bonuses
solid bane
Stygian on anything other then trippy shot/flare <:dusa:522248771409543188>
Stygian was worth it for rolling Artemis Legendary + a Chaos boon and Hermes Reload
I literally couldn't see Hades name
rustic vale
Stygian was worth it for rolling Artemis Legendary + a Chaos boon and Hermes Rel...
That’s high roll though
solid bane
I don't like Crush because range is why I use casts
I want to have a spacing option that tracks
chrome heath
Least fave shot is slice
solid bane
There's def play styles like Hera where it's goated tho
chrome heath
Too slow and low for me
rustic vale
Slicing shot has it’s uses
rustic vale
It is kinda painful if you don’t find hunting blades
solid bane
Blade Rifts are good if you focus hard on Blade Rifts, otherwise they're not great from trying out so far
Not too deep in it yet though
rustic vale
Slicing shot needs no support boons from ares, just the hunting blades duo
sonic fulcrum
but you really need hunting blade
chrome heath
Crystal beam syndrome
solid bane
Rolling the Aphro+Demeter duo boon made me so desperate to get rid of it I ended up having to sell Crystal Beam just to get basic Bloodstone back when I got it the first time
rustic vale
Dio/zeus is kinda useless because trippy shot or flare should be killing anything it touches anyways tbh
brisk trail
Dio/zeus is kinda useless because trippy shot or flare should be killing anythin...
true lmao
i like it for bosses tho
solid bane
There's probably a weapon or build it's good on but I just hate how it felt to use
chrome heath
Dio/zeus is kinda useless because trippy shot or flare should be killing anythin...
F my knowledge
latent moon
ah lmao
rustic vale
I mean
You might as well just try to play faster
There isn’t really any harm in it
brisk trail
i hate asphodel
manic kraken
I’m trying to play fast
brisk trail
cus of lava
manic kraken
just not that good lmao
rustic vale
It’s probably a mix of skill issue and build issue rather then just a plain skill issue tbh
latent moon
not stepping in magma would help
rustic vale
cus of lava
What lava?
brisk trail
What lava?
the lava in asphodel
rustic vale
not stepping in magma would help
Noooooo you ruined the funny
rustic vale
the lava in asphodel
Asphodel has no lava
brisk trail
Asphodel has no lava
tf
latent moon
not stepping in the magma would help
latent moon
the devs didn't rerecord every voice line from lava to magma for you to call it lava
rustic vale
It’s magma
brisk trail
idc
latent moon
cringe
rustic vale
All I know is you hate something that doesn’t exist in asphodel
rustic vale
We already have 1 dude doing the mechanical end of things
maybe he’ll show in for Hades 2
latent moon
We already have 1 dude doing the mechanical end of things
house contractor
latent moon
no
brisk trail
there are so many cool god boons they could add
rustic vale
Being…
And anyways they had to save some gods for Hades 2
There are mods for adding more gods but I think everything in the core game is more then enough
brisk trail
yeah fair enough
im sad cronos is bad guy in hades 2
i can think of some cool ways he could be integrated
latent moon
i mean he's an enemy of olympus why would he be put in a good light lmao
rustic vale
No no Uranus should be the bad guy in Hades 2
brisk trail
i mean he's an enemy of olympus why would he be put in a good light lmao
in some myths they make friends and live happily ever after
latent moon
isn't he killed/imprisoned in the majority of them
which is like, widely accepted to be true
rustic vale
I don’t remember any myths where he isn’t locked up in tartarus or killed
Why can’t we go visit ole Granddad in Hades
rustic vale
Maybe the real myth was the friends we made along the way
rustic vale
i was reading about it cus i was bored today
Which myth has him make friends with his own children that he ate to prevent them taking his throne
brisk trail
im not joking its on wikipedia
in some writings he rules over the isle of blessed after the olympians let him out of tartarus
rustic vale
“Two papyrus versions of a passage of Hesiods' Works and Days mention Cronus being released by Zeus, and ruling over the heroes who go to the Isle of the Blessed; but other editions of Hesiod's text make no mention of such thing, and most editors agree that these lines of text are later interpolations in Hesiod's works”
rustic vale
The people who added it to his work afterwards
brisk trail
HAAHAHHA LAVA
latent moon
you can leave after interacting with a trove
rustic vale
WHOS MAKING IT UP
“Two papyrus versions of a passage of Hesiods' Works and Days mention Cronus being released by Zeus, and ruling over the heroes who go to the Isle of the Blessed; but other editions of Hesiod's text make no mention of such thing, and most editors agree that these lines of text are later interpolations in Hesiod's works”
brisk trail
I WAS RIGHT
brisk trail
that doesnt make you right
relax its a joke
brisk trail
“Two papyrus versions of a passage of Hesiods' Works and Days mention Cronus bei...
still was written
🤷♂️
rustic vale
still was written
Does that mean everything that takes place in Hades was actual greek mythology because they wrote it?
rustic vale
i dont think any of it is really true
So the events in the Hades videogame aren’t myths because they are true
brisk trail
wow
rustic vale
Like
brisk trail
if thousands of years ago a random guy writes that theres a god of thunder named zeus it doesnt mean there was an actual god of thunder named zeus
same difference
rustic vale
and so
The events of the video game Hades aren’t myth because they actually happened irl
brisk trail
but they didnt
slim geyser
well to be fair the difference is it was a lot of people devolping these beliefs somewhat naturally over a long time
brisk trail
well to be fair the difference is it was a lot of people devolping these beliefs...
ye its open to interpretation
rustic vale
Like I agree there isn’t one way about any myths but
brisk trail
so much yet so little information 😔
fax
slim geyser
its a fun way to examine historical context mostly
slim geyser
darren korb should write a song about that
slim geyser
yeah true
rustic vale
Tbh the first time I learned myths could have different versions (I was like 7) my mind was blown
brisk trail
yeah and you can believe what you want from that
like some peeps believed that cronos got out of tartarus
high island
Tbh the first time I learned myths could have different versions (I was like 7) ...
And apparently it never recovered.
brisk trail
And apparently it never recovered. <:dusa:522248771409543188>
no chill
brisk trail
comeds out of nowhere guns blazing
brisk trail
lmao
rustic vale
Tell her to get better pom scaling.
icy flare moment
slim geyser
Don’t do that
rustic vale
just live
Or at least get your hands on a DD first
Sisyphus when he ran out of DD’s and Hermes rolls up instead of Than
brisk trail
“Apart from artemis” like artemis is even up there for zeus
everyone tells me to use artemis
on everything
rustic vale
everyone tells me to use artemis
Where is this btw
slim geyser
Artemis isnt great on zeus
brisk trail
Where is this btw
here sometimes and my mate tells me to use her
rustic vale
here sometimes and my mate tells me to use her
Here it would be only on the specific cases
Not everywhere
slim geyser
Generally for fast attacking weapons % boons like arty/aphro/athena arent great
Yeah
Or as great as like zeus or dio anyway
brisk trail
Or as great as like zeus or dio anyway
so zeus and dio are good for shield
raw herald
Yes
rustic vale
so zeus and dio are good for shield
For zeus shield
rustic vale
Zeus and dio and ares are all good
latent moon
If you want Artemis on Zeus you'd take her atk but that's just because you happened to find her not because you wanted her attack
brisk trail
theyre like the few keepsakes i have maxed
rustic vale
Zeus on special -> static discharge -> zeus support boons -> aphrodite strike -> zeus or dionysus call -> smouldering air
Dionysus special -> aphrodite attack -> low tolerance + 8 trillion poms on dio special
brisk trail
im so bad at the game
rustic vale
Ares on strike or special -> athena on attack or special -> merciful end -> impending doom and divine dash
brisk trail
50 attempts and i've reached hades once lmao
slim geyser
dw me too 😔
rustic vale
Those are the 3 good ways to build zeus special
slim geyser
i cleared near 80 tbh
brisk trail
i cleared near 80 tbh
what weapon?
rustic vale
As of clearing 10* that many escape attempts a few days ago I will say I’m significantly better now
slim geyser
what weapon?
probably zeus, its an awful run by my standards now though
slim geyser
stubborn roots 😔
brisk trail
still pissed i lost this
slim geyser
dw youll get it soon
rustic vale
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/850842799905046529/1059970220703371264/Sc...
I’m not really surprised with how unfocused this build is
slim geyser
whats your favorite weapon to use? we could give you build ideas/tips if you want
brisk trail
I’m not really surprised with how unfocused this build is
lool fair enough
i was mainly trying for dio/poseidon but zeus and stuuf gave me duos so
brisk trail
whats your favorite weapon to use? we could give you build ideas/tips if you wan...
prob zeus shield or hades spear
rustic vale
Exclusive access has it’s niche for darkness farming
Since guaranteeing purple eclipses
slim geyser
oh true
slim geyser
prob zeus shield or hades spear
i have no idea how to play hades spear but generally zeus would be either ME or the smair run above
¯_(ツ)_/¯
brisk trail
lmao
slim geyser
achillies kinda the only spear i use
rustic vale
No
latent moon
I never do on beo generally
rustic vale
i have no idea how to play hades spear but generally zeus would be either ME or ...
Hades spear is cross your fingers for both exploding launcher and charged skewer
brisk trail
why do beowulf and guan yu give debuffs to zag but the rest dont
latent moon
Only time I do is when I've cleared the 5 heads already and I just want it over with
rustic vale
why do beowulf and guan yu give debuffs to zag but the rest dont
They’re hidden aspects, they’re supposed to change things up
latent moon
why do beowulf and guan yu give debuffs to zag but the rest dont
Gilga does too
brisk trail
Gilga does too
mb
latent moon
Also beo debuff basically non-existent
slim geyser
beo is excellent but it takes a little work to learn btw
rustic vale
Also +10% damage taken is negligible
slim geyser
yeah guan yu doesnt feel great
rustic vale
guan yu debuff seems extreme to me tho
Once you level it it’s only 50%
slim geyser
until its maxed
brisk trail
i just realised how many beo speedruns there are
slim geyser
what youd wanna do on beo is take flood flare (pos cast), and then look for artemis attack. thisll let you get a boon called mirage shot, which is bugged on beo so it does double damage essentially
mhm
rustic vale
But I think the life stealing spin throws players off from trying to focus on the special for guan-yu
brisk trail
after calling my friend basic for using the bow lol
rustic vale
i just realised how many beo speedruns there are
It’s popular
rustic vale
after calling my friend basic for using the bow lol
Imagine calling someone basic for using anything
slim geyser
id wait for styx
gray apex
45 Beo?
slim geyser
bow good 👍
gray apex
Divine Strike is gud
rustic vale
Bow 
slim geyser
especially hera (but im biased)
rustic vale
I’m biased for zag bow
brisk trail
i hate lernue
slim geyser
i hate lernue
he has a family :(
latent moon
Mistral dash works lmao
brisk trail
idgaf
slim geyser
but ill give you the cliche advice of focus on learning his moves
rustic vale
Take divine strike to block out the other dem t2’s
gray apex
That is fair, if you’re not running cshot and just wanna apply the debuff you can use Ares or Dio attack too
brisk trail
he has a family :(
i like lernie when he is anything except the wave one
slammer lernie is wholesome
rustic vale
Slammer lernie is anything but wholesome
latent moon
yeah well that's pretty much what you're gonna have to do at this point right
rustic vale
slammer lernie is wholesome
Trans lernie is the least wholesome head
brisk trail
stop these funny athena words scare me
latent moon
aw damn
rich horizon
as a trans person I aspire to be trans lernie. I will commit violence on anyone who threatens me and those I love. 😌
rich horizon
yes ofc
latent moon
based
rustic vale
Based
rich horizon
deadly headbutts 💁
latent moon
what are the options and how many rerolls