#h1-discussion

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rustic vale
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They cannot take

gleaming grove
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I just loss ten obols

rustic vale
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The shiny ones will give obols

gleaming grove
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From braking a blue

rustic vale
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When you really got more obols

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Unless you just encountered a glitch or a bug

sacred walrus
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@rustic vale No i mean i missed a narrator dialogue (yellow orb) in it, and wanted to complete it

sacred walrus
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But Charon fight isn't easy, i had a good build there

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Hope next time i won't miss it with a good build

rustic vale
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Isn’t easy… depending on skill and build

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Charon bag tart zagluv

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Just following up, did you see what I said about lightning dash for zag sword

sacred walrus
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@rustic vale The hitbox of his lightsaber is so big

latent moon
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lmfao

sacred walrus
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That's the only thing that kills me most of the time #noob xD

vital tapir
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em5, adds another charon to the fight

magic fern
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em7, theseus is replaced with another asterius that has a gun

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and both of them can use god calls

vital tapir
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they do the same attacks but dysynced 1/3 of a second

magic fern
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em8: you have to fight cerberus and charon before leaving styx

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the saytyr sack turns out to be empty and cerberus gets pissed, he destroys charon's store and makes him mad too

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what does sisyphus do during the fight

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ok

twilit lodge
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Honestly for sword this sounds based

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I miss a lot of dash strikes because I aimed the way I dashed

latent moon
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maybe dont aim that way

gleaming grove
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On a scale of lernie(easiest) to thesisus(hardest) how hard is charon's bossfight?

latent moon
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dad

gray moth
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Dad

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I don't like battling charon

latent moon
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okay i mean like

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he's mainly hard because you dont fight him that much

gray moth
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Still do it but like

latent moon
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and also the earlier you fight him in the biomes the harder it is

gleaming grove
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Ok cool

gray moth
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Yeppers

gleaming grove
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I wish they're was a way to tell which tunnel the satyr sack is inzageyes

latent moon
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rng moment

gleaming grove
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But yaknow what I've noticed

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It's very commonly in the centaur heart tunnel

latent moon
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lmao probably just selective bias or coincidence

gleaming grove
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Idkthanthink

rustic vale
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second tunnel you enter was like 54% and all the following were lower %

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I think?

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since it can't be first tunnel and I'm fairly certain it doesn't choose a specific tunnel for the sack to be in after you take your first

latent moon
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something like that yeah

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em2 is easy until fo2 hl5 tbh

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well maybe i guess with lc4 if you're going in with ~60% hp

twilit lodge
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40 lernie is just 🤬🤬

latent moon
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just kill them faster tbh

twilit lodge
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TRUR

latent moon
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what flare should i do for 40 heat

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done

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i'll do thunder

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i already did shackle 40

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i need hunter, phalanx, frost, and thunder

rustic vale
latent moon
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i guess i'll work my way up bottom to top

latent moon
twilit lodge
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Phalanx meowulf with parting shot

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And somehow also mirage

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That would be so hard to pull off because of all the bad Athena duos you’d be opening

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Yes

latent moon
twilit lodge
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I meant hera smh!!!

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MEra

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Ur wrong

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Because I don’t care!! Ratio

latent moon
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there's no duos worth shooting for with frost flare lmao

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the ones that are available suck

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stubborn roots or cold fusion

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i thought about pstatus but i'm already in the run lmao

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and yeah i'm shooting for mirage rn

twilit lodge
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Cold fusion Zeus strike

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Or actually

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Pos strike Zeus special sea storm

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Lmao

latent moon
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lvl 2 -> lvl 3 epic frost flare is +10 damage lmfao this is so horrid

twilit lodge
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Oh no cringe

latent moon
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lvl 2 heroic frost flare is the same as lvl 3 epic

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very cool

rustic vale
twilit lodge
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Where randybot with the chart

latent moon
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i'd like to say

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frost flare with mirage shot is objectively worse than thunder flare

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oh bruh

twilit lodge
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Wow that’s not even like

latent moon
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thanks dyno

twilit lodge
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Attempting to be any good

latent moon
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it's legitimately horrid

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i died to dad bouldy

rustic vale
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But is it objectively worse than castless

latent moon
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granted i took hourglass into styx

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but still

twilit lodge
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And I bet the aoe is smaller than flood flare

latent moon
rustic vale
latent moon
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there's a shot delay on the flare

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or burst delay rather

twilit lodge
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I did a trippy beo ice wine run

rustic vale
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Oh bruh

twilit lodge
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The delay wasn’t TOO bad

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But it was still weird

latent moon
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i mean yeah but also like

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delay sucks

rustic vale
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Ice wine ≠ frost flare

latent moon
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they both have a delay

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dem delays the flare burst

twilit lodge
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Ice wine trippy flare has a delay so

rustic vale
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True but idk if it’s the same delay

latent moon
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idk either but it still sucks

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might have to do pstatus and mirage for this lmfao

twilit lodge
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Just lean into cshot and never use the cast

latent moon
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well the cast gives the cshot double damage

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so i'd like to use the cast

twilit lodge
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Smh whiny baby

latent moon
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where's your 40 heat clear smh

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oh wait no you did clear

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tree's the one who didn't clear right

twilit lodge
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SMH

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Lmao

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Tree hasn’t no

latent moon
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where's your 40 heat beo clear smh

twilit lodge
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Beo is easy mode tbh

latent moon
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where's your 40 heat frost flare beo clear

twilit lodge
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I’ve done Nem and eris iirc

latent moon
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i mean tbf it's not too bad but like

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i'd rather use thunder flare

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unironically

twilit lodge
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Or maybe just Nem idr

latent moon
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thunder flare at least has raw damage

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and jolted

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and double strike

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and whatever

gleaming grove
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Why won't Zeus give me the awakening phrase for lucifer?!!?

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I rlly wan it

twilit lodge
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Because

latent moon
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dialogue rng moment

twilit lodge
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Turn off the funny skull mode

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And he will give you the phrase

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(No guarantees)

latent moon
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im kinda sad that i didn't clear frost flare first try

gleaming grove
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Deadass?

latent moon
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no lmao

twilit lodge
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No just make sure you meet the prereqs

latent moon
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heat has nothing to do with awakening phrases

twilit lodge
latent moon
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bouldy what

gleaming grove
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God mode?

latent moon
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oh that

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that also has nothing to do with it lmao

twilit lodge
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True

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But turn it off anyway

latent moon
gleaming grove
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No

latent moon
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if they want to use it let them use it

twilit lodge
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Fair

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All I’m saying is I got the Lucifer unlock super quick on my hell mode save

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And I have god mode off (obviously

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Correlation = causation

gleaming grove
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I have ganyu,I have aspect of zag max on exagryph maxed so I meet the 5 titan blood investment what am I missing?

latent moon
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the awakening phrase lol

twilit lodge
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Rng

gleaming grove
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Stfu both of u

twilit lodge
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Rude

latent moon
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well you're not missing anything else

twilit lodge
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And got told to stfu

gleaming grove
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I wish I could just restart until I get it

twilit lodge
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SMH

latent moon
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sorta

twilit lodge
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Just die to spikes in room 2

latent moon
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zeus keepsake, turn on hl5, hs, ri4, fo2

twilit lodge
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Then start a new run

gleaming grove
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What?

twilit lodge
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Until Zeus gives you it

latent moon
gleaming grove
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Oh

twilit lodge
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Or just keep clearing and you’ll get it eventually

gleaming grove
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I can do that

gleaming grove
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Can you get fountains in asphodel cuz I don't think I've ever seen one?

void vigil
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yes

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its been a while since i started a new game but i think you need to buy fountains in each new region

twilit lodge
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You can get fountains in asphodel if you’ve purchased “fountains: asphodel” from the house contractor

gleaming grove
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Nvm I looked it up and I'm just being dumb

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In my head it look more lava ish

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But yeah I've been saw one

south sapphire
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hmmmm

brisk trail
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is athena dash worth pomming

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i mean isnt it only wanted for its deflect ability and not for the dash damage

latent moon
vital tapir
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the damage is bad, but it doing damage is nice for dc or saviours

brisk trail
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ok so y are there so many images of lv50 divine dash

latent moon
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It's a meme

gleaming grove
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Man I didn't realize how weak tartarus enemies were until I wanted them to kill me

latent moon
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At a certain point it's gonna deal good damage but it'd take a lot of poms lol

latent moon
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And don't use thick skin

gleaming grove
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FINALLY GOD IT TOOK FOREVER !

gleaming grove
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Lucifer: piercing, triple bombs, or eternal chamber?

lean timber
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triple

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always take triple first

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it's crazy good

gleaming grove
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Ok thanku

clear drift
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man i wish i can see the garden again after defeating hades

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the soundtrack is just amazing

twilit lodge
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You can buy that song for the music stand

mint coral
fading dew
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can anyone recommend me a good source of greek mythology, I am thoroughly interested 🙂

high island
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Yeah.

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Hades.

rustic vale
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I’m actually the primary source for 99% of greek mythology

fading dew
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*consume

rustic vale
high island
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Asking about Greek mythology if it's not directly related to or within some discussion about Hades would be better suited to #off-topic-discussion btw. But the mythology geeks who talk Hades mainly hang in #h1-story-discussion.

fading dew
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k

lunar moth
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(Works only with Infernal soul) There is a bug that if you load your casts into Hera bow, and then on the god trial you get Artemis legendary boon, you get not just +2 casts, but also restore all the previously used casts. So, for example, I've had 4 casts when entering the chamber. I load all of them and select Artemis on the god trial. Then, all of my casts are restored, new 2 ones are obtained and the loaded ones are kept loaded. I use the other 6 casts making my bow have 10 casts loaded at the same time. That's how you get 10 casts on the map.

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Should I report it in #hades_tech_support?

rustic vale
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🤔

mint coral
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It resets on the next chamber usually iirc

rustic vale
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Did you still have 10 casts in the next chamber?

lunar moth
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No

rustic vale
mint coral
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huh dusa

lunar moth
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The amount of max casts only raises by two

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But the amount of actual casts raises by 6

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And because the max is still 6

rustic vale
lunar moth
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You can't collect more than that

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And leave the chamber with more than 6 casts

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Let's say it's not that important of a bug and we don't report it

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I mean so many conditions must be met just to make it work

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I tried to get the screeshots but I forgor bouldy

mint coral
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Was gonna say thats how to counter ri3 for beo/hera but ri3 diaables stygian

rustic vale
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Also 6 casts on stygian hera zagluv

lunar moth
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Or wait

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Am I stoopid?

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Stygian soul is the one that gives you +2?

mint coral
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Nah

lunar moth
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Or that makes it regen faster

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Frick

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How is the purple called then

mint coral
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1 crystal that regens

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Infernal soul

lunar moth
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Right

mint coral
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Yeah that makes sense

lunar moth
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Then it works only with infernal one

mint coral
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Stygian but casts on map kinda ron

lunar moth
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Yeah

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Though imagine natural 6 stygian casts

mint coral
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Tripply flare dream

lunar moth
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Yep

blissful oyster
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I'm trying to download a game rn and it's paused cause communication (wifi) is being used on my switch. Why would Hades trigger this, given that it doesn't have any online elements?

lunar moth
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It sends some data to steam if you don't disable the setting

marble mesa
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can someone help me with depression, I almost beat the final boss, died when he was on half second bar

mint coral
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If you got there once you can do it again

rustic vale
marble mesa
blissful oyster
rustic vale
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Switch kinda ain’t built for downloading and playing a game at the same time

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It shouldn’t be because Hades is using wifi

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Because it doesn’t

noble quarry
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true

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goes real slow if you do

final wharf
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any good mods for hades that just enhance expeirence?

twilit lodge
gleaming grove
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Guess who turned on stubborn defiance without actually unlocking it so now they have neither stubborn or death defiance

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Followup, guess who just died,when they otherwise would have won if they had EITHER defiance

high island
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It's a known bug, anyway.

latent moon
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removes a lot of rng and is just a more enjoyable experience imo
all the benefits it gives can also be turned on or off in the game, so if there's a part you dont like you can just turn it off

gleaming grove
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Should I unlock arthur,hera or upgrade lucifer?

latent moon
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hera

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well

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hm

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if you like luci then you should upgrade it

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if you want something new i'd unlock hera

lean timber
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hera sucks

latent moon
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true

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use beo instead

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it's just better hera

mint coral
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buggier hera

lean timber
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hey kids, wanna know what sgg intended beowulf to be? pick up an attack (any attack) and sell it in the tartarus stairwell at the pool of purging

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then check out how garbage it becomes!!

latent moon
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that bug is only for passion and frost flare iirc lmao

lean timber
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u sure? i thought it was universal

raw herald
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It might be for phalanx flare

lean timber
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hmm

raw herald
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We’ll never know

lean timber
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yeah probably not

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not like beo gets used much anyway so who cares

raw herald
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True

latent moon
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actually it's on the bug list isnt it

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where's the bug list

raw herald
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Phalanx flare doesn’t shrink, it’s just always at base flare size

lean timber
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i eated it

high island
latent moon
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next beo run is gonna be attempted meowulf at 40 heat

lean timber
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i'm so prejudiced it's crazy

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insane amounts of hate for the stupid shield

raw herald
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Damn

latent moon
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skill issue

high island
latent moon
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bet

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phalanx flare has to go better than frost flare

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right

raw herald
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Yes

latent moon
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i need to fix my flare tier list thing

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because frost flare is so garbage

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even with mirage it's terrible

lean timber
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wait suddenly something's wrong with phalanx? i though it was like

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3rd best flare

raw herald
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No

latent moon
lean timber
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shows how much i know

raw herald
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Flood > pash > trippy >>> hunter >>> phalanx/thunder >>>>>>>>>>>base> sl*cing >>>> *cy

lean timber
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really??? hunter flare isn't F tier?

latent moon
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yeah i put thunder at the very bottom for mine because "haha no mirage"

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but turns out

lean timber
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interesting

latent moon
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icy sucks

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by a lot

raw herald
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Hunter flare still has mirage access

high island
raw herald
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Icy flare is ass

latent moon
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yeah hunter's flare is chill

high island
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You forgot base Cast btw.

high island
latent moon
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  1. Flood flare. self explanitory
  2. Passion flare. beeg damage, PS with snurst funny
  3. Trippy flare. beeger damage, has bugs, needs actual rng tho
  4. Hunter's flare. access to mirage is cute i guess, heart rend is also funny
  5. Divine(?) flare. idk probably just moderate damage, nothing fancy
  6. Shackle flare. lmao
  7. Slicing flare. kinda funny and not terrible but also pretty terrible
  8. Thunder flare. mirage dont work on it lmao. at least the other zeus boons support it a lot
  9. Frost flare. bad pom scaling and the flare delay kinda wack
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base cast flare kinda strong ngl

raw herald
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🗿

lean timber
latent moon
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lmao i'd rather take shackle flare than icy

raw herald
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God no

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Thunder actually has ways of getting damage

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Icy flare is just awful

latent moon
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thunder flare can use other supporting zeus boons for more damage

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mainly jolted

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even tho the pom scaling sucks, at least you have other stuff

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icy flare has none of that

raw herald
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It’s bugged

twilit lodge
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Imagine thinking the moyai emote is called vineboom

twilit lodge
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This is my total lack of surprise at something else being bugged on beo: 😮

mint coral
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not 100% but might as well be bouldy

latent moon
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Oh right double strike bug lmao

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Basically mirage

lean timber
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it's way, way more likely than the boon indicates

twilit lodge
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Always? Or is this a beo thing

latent moon
lean timber
gleaming grove
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Fun fact I just found, lucifer bombs explode if they land on lava

rustic vale
gleaming grove
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Ik

twilit lodge
fluid cosmos
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||Excalibur|| does not seem very good

twilit lodge
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Good aspect for ME

rustic vale
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It’s fine enough

hardy spear
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does cshot pierce shields?

latent moon
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Yes

hardy spear
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common cshot w

hardy spear
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gamers cant read

twilit lodge
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Piercing hot

gray moth
umbral summit
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In this situation, piercing can reasonably refer to either "the projectile does not get stopped by hitting something", "damages enemies even if they have shields", or both

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It's not completely clear just from a label of piercing

twilit lodge
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Bow attacks don’t pierce

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They are simply aoe

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Just like shield bull rush

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(Without cshot)

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Literally anything that says pierce on the hammer pierces shields

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Most things that do not say Pierce, do not

umbral summit
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"pierces shields" can have two different possible interpretations (or both)

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Nothing might do that in Hades, but other games/etc. have something like that happen

rustic vale
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It just goes through literal enemy shields

umbral summit
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I wasn't talking about armor at all

lean timber
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rama is nullified by shield but can go thru enemies just fine

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think of it as an energy shot

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in a way

twilit lodge
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It’s really not complicated

latent moon
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lmao amazing

hardy spear
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i got mixed up

brisk trail
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do boons that only work while you have no casts left work when you use hera?

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e.g. would the casts get the damage bonus from ravenous will

brisk trail
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oki

twilit lodge
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rav will works on beo and hera if all of your casts are “gone” because you loaded them

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Into your attack

twilit lodge
gleaming grove
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It's time for "ask discord"!

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On a lucifer run, which is better ?
A.concentrated beam
B.triple beam
Or
C.targeting system

rustic vale
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which hammer is it

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first or second

signal aspen
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targeting

rustic vale
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if it's first I would grab concentrated purely because it improves the odds of seeing triple bomb second hammer

gleaming grove
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Uuuuum holdon

signal aspen
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yeah but global damage from targeting

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way better

gleaming grove
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Second

rustic vale
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second hammer take targetting

signal aspen
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bruh

rustic vale
signal aspen
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huh

rustic vale
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a tiny bit

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the slightesy

latent moon
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I mean yeah but like the beam isn't where your most of your damage is

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It's from lightning strike and your special

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And dash I suppose

signal aspen
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i love hunters dash on luci

rustic vale
latent moon
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Hunter dash best dash

twilit lodge
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Bouldy Delivery

mint torrent
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How do I get the Sigil of the Dead?

rustic vale
twin atlas
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Did it just go down for me

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Or everyone else to

mint coral
shadow kindle
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I have discovered my new fav build. DIONYSUS SHIELD

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Just to clarify: Zeus aspect

rustic vale
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Aphrodite strike, dio special, curse of vengeance for low tolerance and curse of nausea type deal?

shadow kindle
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Yes

shadow kindle
rustic vale
shadow kindle
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me when SHOELD

rustic vale
signal aspen
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i go for splitting headache on hangover builds

signal aspen
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and also peer pressure

shadow kindle
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I mean it’s a good duo boon

rustic vale
signal aspen
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hermes

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chaos

rustic vale
signal aspen
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but you count huge catch

shadow kindle
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IF I could maybe get support fire that would be great but NOOOOO

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The build I have used it really well

rustic vale
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Support fire is only good with pressure points and hunters mark

signal aspen
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its pretty good

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since when was it ass

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good damage

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good god gauge building

rustic vale
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More hits is more worth than lees big hits

shadow kindle
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I’m doing a Zeus shield build and support fire just kills stuff with constant volleys of arrows

rustic vale
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Damage is still a factor but hitting is more

rustic vale
latent moon
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Support fire is just nice tho but I wouldn't really look for it tbh

shadow kindle
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Yeah but the point is every time the spinning shield hits another arrow gets fired which helps

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Which is pretty constant

latent moon
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Like "hey look support fire sure I guess I'll take it" but I wouldn't go out of my way for it

rustic vale
shadow kindle
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eh I like it with this build

rustic vale
shadow kindle
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an arrow gets shot like twice a second and that can be a decent bonus to damage.

signal aspen
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Support Fire isn't so great? Are you kidding me? When was the last time you saw a boon with such an ability and damage with artemis? Support Fire puts the game in another level, and we will be blessed if we ever see a boon with its power and enhancement of the game again. Merciful End breaks records. Mirage Shot breaks records. Suppot Fire breaks the rules. You can keep your statistics. I prefer the magic.

rustic vale
signal aspen
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counterargument: support fire looks cool

rustic vale
shadow kindle
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Based

rustic vale
signal aspen
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its like the same as zeus attack

rustic vale
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Yes

signal aspen
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you need cores from at least one god

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i think

rustic vale
rustic vale
latent moon
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If there were no internal cooldowns Chiron would be so much better

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Thunder flourish would be so nice

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And support fire would crash the game

rustic vale
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Chiron if thunder flourish Hades had no internal cooldowns

signal aspen
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if chiron had +75% global damage and faster animations and no internal cooldowns and 50% damage reduction it would be so much better

rustic vale
shadow kindle
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support fire pog

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🗿bouldy

rustic vale
shadow kindle
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Haha death beyblade

rustic vale
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If chiron was any other bow aspect it would be so much better

shadow kindle
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What’s wrong with Chiron?

rustic vale
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It’s not every other bow aspect

shadow kindle
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Counterpoint Homing arrows go brrr

rustic vale
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You can’t dspecial for a faster special

shadow kindle
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YOU DONT?

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specials are good

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No

rustic vale
shadow kindle
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Malphon?

rustic vale
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Like spear with explosive launcher or rail with clockets

shadow kindle
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Demeter fists

rustic vale
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Or luci w/triple bomb

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Dem fists too because they don’t take 6 years to special

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W/= with

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Luci should have hazard, cluster, rockets, spreadfire, flurry fire, delta chamber, explosive fire, ricochet fire, and seeking fire

shadow kindle
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Is guan yu a good aspect?

rustic vale
shadow kindle
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DEBATE

rustic vale
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Lvl50 is trolling

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Yes

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yes

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And it isn’t bad

shadow kindle
#

speeeeeen

rustic vale
#

And it’s improved explosive launcher

#

not just explosive launcher

#

50% hp unless you decide to not level it bouldy

latent moon
shadow kindle
#

TO MAKE IT BETTER

rustic vale
shadow kindle
rustic vale
#

Chiron moment

shadow kindle
#

LEVELS CHANGE THE VALUE OF ASPECTS

rustic vale
latent moon
#

i mean for guan yu it's dealing the same amount of damage

shadow kindle
#

Demeter fists start off mid and get really good maxed out

latent moon
#

you can say the same with every fist aspect lmao

rustic vale
#

and chiron starts of meh nd ends off meh

latent moon
#

except some stay mid

rustic vale
#

Guan-yu starts off ew and ends off decent

shadow kindle
#

So guan yu is good. Got it

twin atlas
#

But it is bad

latent moon
#

lmao it's not bad

#

it's good for casual playing

#

falls off for speed and heat

#

but can do 40 comfortably

shadow kindle
#

To make the result better? reducing the downsides is good

twin atlas
#

I hate it casual play to

latent moon
#

skill issue

twin atlas
#

And my opinions are always 100% correct

rustic vale
#

Idk my opinion is never wrong

#

so

shadow kindle
#

it’s not tho. If you have a weapon that is bad for one reason and you can fix it then DO IT

twin atlas
#

Simply beat the game with 25 health

#

Its just that easy

rustic vale
#

That’s a gilga moment

latent moon
#

gilga has no dps

twin atlas
#

True

shadow kindle
twin atlas
#

Also gilga should have normal dashes

rustic vale
#

You certainly are spouting words today

shadow kindle
#

Cold take: bouldy best rock

rustic vale
#

R33ce’s I think you either misunderstand bouldy use bouldy or

shadow kindle
#

?

rustic vale
#

I’m not sure how to say thisbut given what you’ve been bouldying

#

What else are you using your titans blood on

shadow kindle
#

except guan yu is better later

rustic vale
#

Max them so you can max gy

#

🧠

#

Be faster

shadow kindle
rustic vale
#

Yup

#

I agree

#

What

#

I thought you were better than this

#

Who’ve I confused you with

latent moon
#

me

shadow kindle
#

AAAAAAAAAAAA

#

I deied

#

to mr redacted

latent moon
#

it do be like that

shadow kindle
#

What counts as a spoiler

#

Final boss, ending, story details?

rustic vale
shadow kindle
#

Oh cool. I DIED TO HADES AAAAAAAAAA

rustic vale
shadow kindle
#

Hadeez nuts

latent moon
#

oh yeah i died to lernie with phalanx flare mirage shot earlier today so that was fun

#

i threw that run pretty badly

#

but also the bubble lasts so long after you kill the other heads it's so annoying

shadow kindle
fluid saffron
#

So…this game reallocate every memory bits to a new region upon crashing?

#

Not sure if I should talk about it here since don’t think it’s best to discuss about poking around mods’ own game in #h1-tech-support and….sever rules don’t really say can discussion to data editing

brisk trail
#

whats so good about hades call?

latent moon
#

100% damage boost

#

and speed boost

brisk trail
#

bruh ok

latent moon
#

you get that boost for a short bit, like 2 sec or something

#

1.5 maybe

#

probably

#

but it's just so annoying

#

i died because of how long it was

#

my volleys instaphased it but the bubble lasted so long that i got slapped

rustic vale
latent moon
#

i mean i dropped the shield as soon as the bubble went down

#

but then lernie dived me immediately

#

i did say i threw it lmao

#

doesn't make the bubble time any less annoying tho

twilit lodge
#

And sometimes the bubble animation doesn’t match the end of the bubble

#

I’ve hit lernie with my cast while the bubble was still visible before

lean timber
#

after playing long enough you can determine exactly when the animation lock ends so you can "pre-fire" and damage him before his bubble clears

#

it's pretty consistent too

#

can do it around 30% of the time in my experience? yeah the bubbles are pretty garbo

#

the hurtboxes return on the frame that the bubble begins to disappear

#

and the disappearing is like a 30f animation so

fluid saffron
#

Is there anyway that allow you to fight a boss multiple time for practice?

lean timber
#

yeah do another run

fluid saffron
#

….like, repeatively

#

💀

lean timber
#

no

#

not without mods

fluid saffron
#

Mods are fine

twilit lodge
#

There’s a boss rush mod

fluid saffron
#

Everything is on the table as long as I can do it

twilit lodge
#

Or you can just

#

Save state

lean timber
#

there's a modding server pinned in the self promotion channel. if you have a pc it's the easiest thing in the world

fluid saffron
#

Save State?

lean timber
#

dw abt save states they can be technical for no reason. just mod

twilit lodge
#

Idk how but you can use temporary saves to load into pre boss fights

fluid saffron
#

I will check it out, thx

twilit lodge
#

Mod probably easier yeah

lean timber
#

yeah it's hard for no reason and u can get the same results with mods

twilit lodge
#

Just seen people on speedcord use them for practicing

#

How I know it’s a thing

fluid saffron
#

I tried use cheat engine to do the poking myself but apparently everytime game crashes every single code will be relocated to another memory regions

fluid saffron
#

Who’s the narrator?

#

Hades or…homer?

twilit lodge
#

Homer

twin atlas
#

its me

fluid saffron
#

No way

rustic vale
#

I don’t actuallt remember

brisk trail
#

can u name someone hades

#

like a child

twilit lodge
#

Wut

rustic vale
brisk trail
#

doesnt it mean hell tho

rustic vale
#

And that’s stopping you from naming your child Hades how?

#

And Hades is the name for the greek mythos underworld not the christian one

#

Although I’m not sure if they’re synanymous

wraith oracle
#

should i get Dead Cells or Hades??

rustic vale
#

Considering where you’re asking

#

🤔

#

I wonder what answer you’ll get

twilit lodge
#

Buy sunless sea

#

And regret it like me

high island
rustic vale
#

It’s just I’ve definitely seen Hades in the bible

#

But that may just be because it was KJV

high island
noble quarry
#

you know part of me wants to buy the soundtrack on cd but on the other side do i really need it its all on youtube or way cheaper on steam

gleaming grove
#

Sigil of the dead good?

strong ridge
#

it’s nice but you have to really build around it

near finch
#

btw, why are Zeus and Hades keep emphasizing that Demeter is their foster sister? that is not true. all three are children of Cronos and Rhea
is it because Demeter is the mother of Persephone, and that would mean Hades is married to his niece? sweet home Alabama

gleaming grove
#

I think so

#

The second one

#

Anyway long knuckle, heavy knuckle, or flying cutter

ashen python
#

How are diyonusis rama builds for high heat

ashen python
high island
sacred walrus
#

Is it normal that i killed Theseus with his char but when i met Poseidon he didn't speak about it ?

gleaming grove
high island
#

Ah. Well, Long Knuckle is normally better, but it's not like Heavy Knuckle can't work out.

gleaming grove
#

Dash nova,super nova,or holding slash?

drifting elbow
#

can u get curse of drowning on beo aspect shield

signal aspen
#

yeah

#

it sucks

drifting elbow
#

so it would still do the 3 pulses really slowly like the normal curse of drowning

#

is it possible to make curse of drowning good

#

like ever

twilit lodge
#

Fists

latent moon
#

It's only good with fists yeah

#

Might be able to make a case for it with sword because it'd be used the same way I guess

sacred walrus
#

Which malus do you take for 32 heat ?

signal aspen
#

which what

fallow seal
#

hi guys

sacred walrus
#

@signal aspen Which measures

fallow seal
signal aspen
sacred walrus
#

@fallow seal I think it's a mod, not an expansion, but not sure

#

@signal aspen Thanks

fallow seal
#

oh nvrm then thx for that

sacred walrus
#

It's so hard to finish to collect all fishes xD I never seem them on earth or in chaos area

#

I think i won't be able to finish this game totally ahah

gleaming grove
#

Dash nova,super nova,or holding slash?

#

Nemesis run

icy knoll
#

lol

#

all three hammers are bad but dash nova is the most fun

high island
gleaming grove
#

Bet

drifting elbow
#

i have witnessed a power i had previously thought constrained only to legend - hyper sprint + purple rush delivery

#

it seems to be boosting my zeus boon damage too, unlike most damage increase boons??? its kinda ridiculous because i can just spam dash while my zeus aspect blitz disc just SHREDS even tho my build is otherwise absolutely terrible

latent moon
#

lmao power of rd

#

rd is a global damage increase, so it modifies all damage sources coming from you iirc

rustic vale
#

All damage (aside from traps and companions) to my knowledge will get boosted by rd
Wait does maim get boosted?

#

Super nova is a positive

#

Hoarding slash is a less positive positive

#

dash nova is kind of a negative

latent moon
#

still better than some hammers

rustic vale
#

Hoarding slash >= 0 > some other sword hammers

drifting elbow
#

i maxed the mirror of night finally

mint torrent
mint coral
#

The non spoiler way is just keep escaping

#

It will make more sense at some point

mint torrent
#

No don't spoil

#

I just realized I want to experience the game (mostly) blindly

mint torrent
latent moon
mint torrent
#

How do I build the most powerful Exagryph (Aspect of Eris) known to all Hades players?

latent moon
#

get lucky with hammers

#

rocket and cluster bomb

#

arty/aphro special, zeus atk

#

get jolted

#

and then hyper sprint + rush delivery

mint torrent
latent moon
#

explosive shot is mediocre

vital tapir
#

use that then? you asked a question and got an answer

latent moon
#

ngl idk if you really need the bullets to do aoe if you're using lightning strike

rich herald
#

I'm dying laughing
I just encountered the final enemy, the midboss ||KING VERMIN extra space to hide character length|| and it's hilarious that they made this
I love it

latent moon
#

no need for spoilers here lol

#

but yeah tony is the best

rich herald
#

Ah yea I suppose

#

Omg. Does Zag eventually name him like Lernie

latent moon
latent moon
#

anthony is the big rat

rich herald
#

Lmao I love it

mint torrent
#

How do I get the Hades role?

latent moon
#

#bot-commands

high island
#

Scarface is a modern adaption of the epic Tony Vermin.

mint torrent
#

what does shol mean?

latent moon
#

idk if hesty "likes" explosive but it is an option

#

and delta doesn't nerf hesty

#

it just does nothing

#

except give you iframes during dstrikes

#

you can

#

you can reload 12/12 ammo on hestia

#

other rails you cant if you're full

#

other rails can't do that

mint torrent
#

Hey mods, can we have a boyo emoji?

feral belfry
#

How do you get the gods final heart? Is it just interacting enough with them or using keepsake?

hardy spear
#

they all have a "favour" that you need to complete which would have been hinted at in dialogue

#

mostly really simple things like i think ares' is just kill stuff

feral belfry
#

Oh

#

So they each have a prophecy

mint coral
#

yeah most of them are in topic of each god too

#

some of them are tied to a prophecy, some not

feral belfry
#

Ah ok

mint coral
#

common case is poseidon where people confuse the prophecy he gives with the favor

feral belfry
#

The EM3 prophecy

#

So I can check the codex and it might hint if I've missed

mint coral
#

just gotta 🎣 a lot for pos

feral belfry
#

I've done a few

#

Just have stalled aphro, arty, dem, trying to trigger the epilogue

#

And couldn't figure out what I was missing

#

Reuniting patty and Achilles also taking forever to trigger

mint coral
latent moon
#

amogus

rich herald
#

I always see the pokemon Tropius

lean timber
#

tropeez nuts

feral belfry
near finch
#

is it feasible to kill Hades with vengeance boons only? one of my recent runs I had 2 vengeance boons (I didn't know it was possible, btw, to wear 2 boons of the same category but from different gods). 140 damage from Ares vengeance + 160 from Zeus, I believe. Hades has 34 000 HP, that's 113 times 300
I can have, say, 300 HP, plus lucky tooth (100 HP), and 3 death defiance worth 450 more = 850 total XP. so if Hades were to hit me 113 times, he should deal no more than 7.5 per hit 🙂 so clearly the math doesn't add up
I could replenish my health with Stubborn roots, but maybe there are other ways?

rustic vale
#

also vengeful mood and damage reduction exists

#

Plus ME curse of venfeance then holyshield

vital tapir
#

why hasn’t max heat been cleared when you can just get all the damage reduction + stubborn roots + revenge boons

mint coral
#

time issue

latent moon
shadow kindle
#

ASTERIUS SAID THE THING. GILGAMESH ASPECT

near finch
latent moon
#

It's using revenge boons bouldy

rustic vale
shadow kindle
#

POG FURRY PAWS

near finch
#

it's totally different, 'cause you don't have to take damage to deal damage

latent moon
#

Do revenge boons proc from dodges? I doubt it

rustic vale
#

“Is it feasible to kill Hades with revenge boons only” vengeful mood would count as a revenge boon no?

latent moon
#

If that's the case then you'd need massive damage reduction as well

rustic vale
#

It’s just an extra

shadow kindle
#

what’s happening and what does bronze skin have to do with anything

#

I missed most of this conversation

latent moon
#

It's damage reduction

twilit lodge
#

Just get every revenge boon, rd, and a million poms

shadow kindle
#

yes

twilit lodge
#

Then you could maybe kill dad with revenge only

#

Saying vengeful mood doesn’t count is kinda silly tho

shadow kindle
#

I’m over in my little corner of the chat celebrating because I got Asterius to say the waking phrase

rustic vale
latent moon
#

Smh

shadow kindle
#

same

latent moon
#

You can still do it with rama

twilit lodge
#

Heheheha

shadow kindle
#

heheheha

latent moon
#

So do rama

#

Better than Dem fists

twilit lodge
#

Imagine replying to yourself

shadow kindle
#

Shoutout to my good orange shade he a real one fr fr

rustic vale
rustic vale
twilit lodge
shadow kindle
rustic vale
#

Orange shade my favourite romance option

shadow kindle
#

I want to include him in my relationship with Meg and Thanatos

rustic vale
#

4some w/ Zag Meg Than and Orange Shade 🧠

shadow kindle
#

YES

near finch
# twilit lodge Then you could maybe kill dad with revenge only

oh no, it counts. it's just that vengeful mood is on a different level than other vengeance boons.
although, before I watched the video, I thought he was gonna run in circles or something around Hades
instead he put his controller away and won hands-free, that was impressive 🙂

lean timber
#

is this the haelian vid

latent moon
#

yes

timber moss
#

Any idea of a fix on the xbox controller randomly disconnecting? Tried the usb power option and updated all drivers.

swift inlet
#

Probably tbh

#

A newer one might work better

fluid saffron
#

Are Beowulf Mirage Shot bug patched

#

thanthink just see it on the guide

latent moon
#

there's not gonna be any more patches for this game

#

bugwulf moment

fluid saffron
#

And no dlc or 2 💀

latent moon
#

yeah

#

the game's finished what more is there to add

#

story's complete

#

adding more stuff might muddy up some stuff and/or seem extremely forced

fluid saffron
#

I am not sure if I have completed the story or not

#

I got the main quest

latent moon
#

you'll know tbh

fluid saffron
#

The achievements says story complete, But from what I seen it’s just Act I done

#

Now I am doing Act II

gleaming grove
#

Cruel thrust,breaching slash or double edge? Nemesis run

latent moon
#

double edge

#

double edge is the sword's best hammer

#

breaching is probably right behind it tho

lean timber
#

those are all pretty good

#

that's like the best hammer spread you could get

gleaming grove
#

Dire misfortune or blood frenzy or urge to kill

#

Ares is on attack

shadow kindle
#

Hey I saw a picture of Thanatos and Meg in the bedroom how do I get that to happen?

gleaming grove
shadow kindle
#

why that

gleaming grove
#

Threeso-

shadow kindle
#

Ok anyway what to I need to do

#

Get both to max affinity?

gleaming grove
#

I dont actually knoe

shadow kindle
#

oh

latent moon
#

keep playing and you'll get it eventually

gleaming grove
#

Dire misfortune or blood frenzy or urge to kill

rustic vale
#

/aspect

gleaming grove
#

Nemesis ares on attack

shadow kindle
latent moon
#

probably

#

i dont remember

prisma wind
#

Yes, but even then it's a random event

gleaming grove
#

I just realized your a banana dolphin

latent moon
#

yeah

gleaming grove
#

Anyways Dire misfortune or blood frenzy or urge to kill?

rustic vale
#

Uhhh

latent moon
#

blood frenzy probably idk

rustic vale
#

Tbh whichever one has highest rarity for selling later imo

#

or dire misfortune if you don’t want them getting in the way of your pom rng

gleaming grove
#

Dire misfortune it is

#

It's also epic anyway

shadow kindle
#

Oh no I’ve been trading all my ambrosia for blood oh no how am I gonna get thanatos to max hearts

rustic vale
#

just

#

Get more ambrosia

shadow kindle
#

can I just un-trade

latent moon
#

no

#

bro it's fine literally just clear more lmao

#

i'd assume you'd want to play more anyways

shadow kindle
#

I would need to do higher H E A T and I’m not good

#

I am a skill issue

#

ok time to MURDER

latent moon
shadow kindle
#

What are bad pacts

#

Which ones I mean

latent moon
#

routine inspection, calisthenics program, jury summons, approval process

#

convenience fee as well tbh

shadow kindle
#

I have calisthenics program but it’s only one level so 🤷‍♂️

latent moon
#

"only" means giving dad another 5k hp per phase lmao

shadow kindle
#

Sorry I just did W H A T

gleaming grove
#

Man I'm loving pom flower

latent moon
#

cp1 isn't too bad in normal rooms, but it's really a lot more of a problem with bosses

shadow kindle
#

also yeah jury summons is good

latent moon
#

i mean it's not the worst thing but its whatever tbh

#

like there's still better things to take for 1 heat

shadow kindle
#

Well I’m on heat 4 so this is the best so far

#

PL?

#

oh.

latent moon
#

yes

shadow kindle
#

What does it do tho?

#

Oh

#

also I may have made a mistake you said hades gets HOW MUCH EXTRA HEALTH?

#

AAAAAAAAAAAAAA

latent moon
latent moon
#

per phase

#

iirc

#

i dont remember the per phase part

#

but it is 5k

#

hold on

#

yes

shadow kindle
#

ÆUGH

latent moon
#

okay it's 5k total

#

but still not great

shadow kindle
#

Not really. I mean a little bit of health isn’t the worst

latent moon
shadow kindle
#

I MEANT BASIC ENEMIES I DIDNT THINK ABOUT BOSSES

latent moon
#

lmao

shadow kindle
#

Also I’ve had runs where I’ve done like 3k with one special

#

Dem fists, flying cutter, and every Artemis boon in the game

latent moon
#

i mean just because it's fine for some weapons doesn't mean it's a fine pact to take

#

like there's easier stuff to take

shadow kindle
#

it’s not great but I can work with it

latent moon
#

ofc you can

latent moon
shadow kindle
#

right now I need better boons

#

NOT DIONYSUS

#

Not for fists

latent moon
#

you're less likely to take it off and switch it for something when you climb heat, and hell might even take cp2 for your next heat because "hey it's not that bad"
if we didn't tell you how much hp it gave to dad (didn't mention other bosses like the champs or lernie) there's a good chance you would've taken cp2

#

which wouldn't be fun

shadow kindle
#

Where is Zeus?! I want more D A M A G E

rustic vale
latent moon
#

dio call is good

rustic vale
#

Not together though

shadow kindle
#

not as incredible as others. It’s a DoT effect which is better on other weapons than fist. If you are punching constantly then the damage isn’t as good as if you had a slower and powerful weapon

rustic vale
#

it scales really well

shadow kindle
#

I prefer Zoos

rustic vale
#

Yup

shadow kindle
#

If you punch a ton you want consistent damage because it’s slower than your attack speed is.

latent moon
#

hangover is consistent damage

rustic vale
#

Hangover is the most consistent damage

shadow kindle
#

I KNOW THAT

#

You get a max of 5 hangover, so something that can always do damage after a certain point is good

latent moon
#

5 ticks of like, 10 is 50 damage per second

mint coral
#

Max your stacks then start wacking some other enemy

latent moon
#

wait no

#

per half second

shadow kindle
#

If i hit 5 times, I have to wait for hangover to do damage. If I have Zeus on attack, I can do that damage by just punching

latent moon
#

i mean we're not saying it's better than zeus
we're just saying it's still good

shadow kindle
#

No, I said there’s better things that I can use on fists

mint coral
#

Honestly i like dio more than zeus on fists

#

It feels bad without splitting bolt

shadow kindle
#

I don’t know I feel like I backed myself into a corner with this opinion just forget it honestly I don’t care

shadow kindle
#

Screw this

#

Bruh

#

Why bouldy

rustic vale
#

Also

shadow kindle
#

WHAT

rustic vale
#

Every slower weapon would do better with a % modifier

shadow kindle
#

I don’t care. I just don’t care. I remember someone said dio wasn’t great on fists after I suggested it so I just thought that was true

rustic vale
#

Where did you askv

shadow kindle
#

Somewhere in this discord idk

rustic vale
#

Huh

#

X to doubt that they knew what they were talking about

shadow kindle
#

Somebody was helping me make a build. I think it was you and @brisk trail

rustic vale
#

I doubt that either of us said that dio was bad on fists

shadow kindle
#

I don’t remember I assume somebody else was there but whatever.

#

I thought it was true so when the argument started I got defensive about an opinion I didn’t even know much about

rustic vale
#

I searched to see if I could find this convo you were referencing but

high island
#

Drunken Strike on Malphon is not great. It's just good enough.

rustic vale
#

It’s not great but it is not bad

shadow kindle
#

It was like weeks ago tbf not sure you could find it if you tried

rustic vale
#

I quick searched dio, hangover, drunk under your name

shadow kindle
#

try something else.

high island
#

Why are you searching somebody's chat history anyway lol. It's not a big deal.

rustic vale
#

Idk

shadow kindle
#

Just trying to figure out who gave me bad advice

rustic vale
#

Yeah

shadow kindle
#

thanthink who knows

high island
#

@rustic vale why don't you search my chat history for how often I corrected you instead?