#h1-discussion

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buoyant lark
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doesn't work it seems. @raw herald

raw herald
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Discord sucks

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DM it to me?

red coral
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If you paste to another server and then “Open Image” it will give you a link you can post

swift inlet
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I thought they must have beaten the final boss if they have heat unlocked

raw herald
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Maybe hell mode

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Anyway problem solved

buoyant lark
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nvm.

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I was a dingus.

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someone told me before that they beat ''Extreme measures 4''.

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didn't know what 4 meant.

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now I get that more points can be added.

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👀

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does bonus damage from effects like Talos Aspect from malphon add to stuff like Lightning Bolts / Doom / Chill / Drunk 'n stuff?

raw herald
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No

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Talos specifies attack and cast

buoyant lark
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so It's only good for crit based stuff then.

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or cast stuff.

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gotcha.

raw herald
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Although % damage that doesn’t specify will affect everything that zag does

buoyant lark
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!

raw herald
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Like billowing strength or rush delivery

buoyant lark
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ooo

raw herald
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Aspect of eris’ buff is also global

buoyant lark
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Is there a point in having both God's Pride and Olympian Favour MoNight traits?

raw herald
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Olympians favour is generally bad

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Dark foresight benefits gods pride more because more boons = more epic boons

buoyant lark
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Is there any suggestion for finishing the last few quests?

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I'mma go crazy. >=S

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primarily 2 weapon daedalus hammer upgrades for spear 'n gun.

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well, 1 each.

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and the dang Assault boon from chaos.

raw herald
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Just keep tryin

buoyant lark
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gonna give it 1 more full run try.

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otherwise perma die if I don't get it after a few chambers.

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=S

swift inlet
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Is it common for heat runs to get screwed by random enemy bp setups you can't deal with

buoyant lark
swift inlet
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Like c3 ghost clone witches with extra health

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Literally no way to get a charged shot in

buoyant lark
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wait.

buoyant lark
latent moon
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i dont think so? not entirely sure but i wouldn't think so

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otherwise i feel like there would be more usage of privileged status

lean timber
raw herald
lean timber
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low heat anyway

latent moon
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huh interesting

raw herald
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Both priv stat and family favourites are global

lean timber
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do you have a source for that information

raw herald
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The game

lean timber
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that doesn't seem like a trustworthy source

patent mesa
buoyant lark
latent moon
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some hammers don't work with certain aspects

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like you can't get exploding launcher on achilles

patent mesa
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allow me to demonstrate

latent moon
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homie pulling out the bot

patent mesa
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so if you're a shadow presence main you'll never see assault

latent moon
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oh dang i didn't know that

lean timber
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not true, i've committed assault plenty of times and i run shadow

latent moon
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based

buoyant lark
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FK SAKE.

lean timber
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lol

latent moon
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lmfao

patent mesa
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@buoyant lark which hammers you missing?

buoyant lark
buoyant lark
latent moon
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exploding launcher, don't use achilles or guan yu

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ricochet, don't use luci

patent mesa
buoyant lark
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where can I type this?

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and does it work for quests too?

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like, A Place of Revelry?

patent mesa
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this is output from a bot I own that's confined to its own server right now

buoyant lark
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oh.

patent mesa
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and probably not quests in general because the bot is for gameplay stuff

buoyant lark
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you made the bot?

patent mesa
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yep

buoyant lark
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oh.

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tech savvy iSee.

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=0

patent mesa
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yeah bots are fun

lean timber
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h!pre snow burst

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h!pre snurst

buoyant lark
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what's ''pre'' here?

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prerequisite?

latent moon
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snurst

latent moon
patent mesa
lean timber
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awesome thanks i wasn't sure

patent mesa
swift inlet
patent mesa
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lmao true

terse geyser
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I object
my setup is BETTER, not worse, than either kbm or gamepad

raw herald
terse geyser
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anyways, since I'm playing again I figured I'd pop back in here

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did they ever fix my sword?

swift inlet
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How so

patent mesa
raw herald
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I’m 101

swift inlet
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Tf

rough token
patent mesa
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you're a 101 in binary

swift inlet
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Can you really pom to 40

latent moon
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yeah

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haelian pommed crush shot to like 50 or something

raw herald
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Haelian has pommed crush shot to 53 iirc

swift inlet
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h!b aph cast heroic 40

patent mesa
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I have pommed crush shot to 54

swift inlet
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Hm

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Is it aphro

latent moon
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it's much easier if you pom an aphro or poseidon core

lean timber
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i've pommed crush shot to 55

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and a half

swift inlet
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h!b aphro cast heroic 40

raw herald
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I think magnil beat Haelian actually

patent mesa
lean timber
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who tf is magnil

raw herald
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Insanely cracked hades speedrunner

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Doesn’t play much anymore

swift inlet
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Holy hell

patent mesa
lean timber
patent mesa
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I sent supergiant a message asking to add bot to this server but no response yet

slim geyser
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yeah :(

lean timber
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@/alma can he host his bot here it's epic

slim geyser
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bots very cool though

patent mesa
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apparently mods have no control over that

buoyant lark
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Is God's Pride better or the God's Duo Boon + 10%?

lean timber
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pride

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legacy is a scam

latent moon
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pride unless you're running beo but also legacy is a scam

patent mesa
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both with cheat engine

raw herald
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Or none

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Works for me

lean timber
raw herald
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?

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yes!

lean timber
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hey man i don't ever ever run beo

patent mesa
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no

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it's only 2x

lean timber
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hey man bouldy

latent moon
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absolutely not it's not necessary look at my slicing flare 40 heat run didn't have mirage shot and it was easy

patent mesa
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that's less than heroic RD

raw herald
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Mirage is only 30% for slicing flare iirc

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Maybe that’s wrong

buoyant lark
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say.

raw herald
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Maybe it’s not

patent mesa
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lol imagine

latent moon
patent mesa
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kicking the poor flare while it's down

buoyant lark
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Is Long Knucle or Concentrated Knuckle better?

raw herald
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Long

buoyant lark
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Idk if % is better or flat damage.

latent moon
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l o n g

patent mesa
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short knuckle >>>

raw herald
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Long knuckle for the reach

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The damage doesn’t matter for either hammer really

patent mesa
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is it true that long was nerfed

raw herald
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Idk

patent mesa
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I thought someone said it was 20% before

buoyant lark
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this range is insane.

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0_0

raw herald
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Damn 1 less attack damage

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2 if the game rounds up

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Idk if it does

patent mesa
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I will never recover from this

lean timber
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why is the command g

patent mesa
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stands for god

lean timber
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oh

patent mesa
lean timber
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old hermes icon detected!!

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where did you source

terse geyser
patent mesa
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@slim geyser added them all for me

slim geyser
lean timber
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i want those :((

patent mesa
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I guess we should swap to the new hermes symbol at some point

slim geyser
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ehhh i think it looks fine

buoyant lark
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I JUST WANT.

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THE HIDDEN.

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SHIELD ASPECT.

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AAAAAAAAAAA

raw herald
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Hermes one looks wack

lean timber
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it sucks no point

latent moon
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beo sucks don't buy into it

patent mesa
buoyant lark
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I have to get it.

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just once.

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so I can have all of them unlocked.

raw herald
buoyant lark
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and get 1 more ''finish with hidden aspect of'' quest.

raw herald
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4

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3

patent mesa
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2

buoyant lark
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hmmm.

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Breaching Cross looks good.

latent moon
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it is

patent mesa
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highkey broken but whatever

raw herald
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1

latent moon
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your knees are gone

raw herald
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Easily the most boring broken hammer

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That was used to destroy my knees apparently

patent mesa
raw herald
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True

patent mesa
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art is kinda fire for this hammer though tbh

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have literally never picked it up

terse geyser
buoyant lark
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HEARTS.

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IN.

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3 aphrodites.

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STILL no Curse of Longing.

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holy crap.

terse geyser
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happens

patent mesa
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nice you've managed to avoid curse of longing

terse geyser
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game is still fun though, is it not?

terse geyser
buoyant lark
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this is actually insane.

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I've gotten every boon that'd make it absolutely rad.

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and It's refusing to give it ot me.

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now I'm fighting theseus and asterius.

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and the deity based boons will become worthless after.

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because they don't work in charon's domain.

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10/10.

lean timber
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the... whag

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they do work

terse geyser
buoyant lark
high island
terse geyser
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I was honestly surprised to see you're still here

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how've you been?

buoyant lark
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so you're saying that going into charon's domain, the part where you go to find the satyr sack to get to the boss, works with the deity keepsakes like aphrodite?

patent mesa
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yep

buoyant lark
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welp.

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this is the last attempt for me then.

patent mesa
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although they won't work if you keep the same one on

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one charge per escape

buoyant lark
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wait.

terse geyser
buoyant lark
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WHAT.

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I've kept on aphrodite's keepsake

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for 2 regions straight.

terse geyser
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they only force one boon

patent mesa
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bruh rip

buoyant lark
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this.

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hurts.

terse geyser
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the rest is just rarity chance increase iirc

buoyant lark
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._.

terse geyser
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you'll recover

buoyant lark
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then I'll switch to ares now > go into charon's domain before the hades fight = ares boons?

patent mesa
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yeah

terse geyser
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1 ares boon.

patent mesa
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good luck getting that dumpster duo

swift inlet
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You might get lucky with ares in store

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And chamber

high island
buoyant lark
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1 ares store.

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1 in routes.

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cool.

swift inlet
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No no

buoyant lark
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?

swift inlet
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I don't think it guarantees both

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But you should get path at least?

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Idk

patent mesa
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hopefully spending the whole run going for one actually worthless duo boon won't end up killing you

terse geyser
buoyant lark
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what best to do for speed running?

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or rather.

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finishing runs fast?

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because doom merciful end seems best.

raw herald
patent mesa
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oh were you going for merciful end

terse geyser
buoyant lark
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I was going for Curse of Longing.

terse geyser
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not sure about best though

buoyant lark
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seems better than merciful end.

patent mesa
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curse of longing is horrific

terse geyser
buoyant lark
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???????????

terse geyser
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lol

buoyant lark
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why?

patent mesa
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truly bottom tier duo

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it's good for purging

raw herald
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It doesn’t do much except be outclassed by even cold fusion

terse geyser
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merciful end is much, much higher dps in every case

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uhh

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unless you run away I guess

buoyant lark
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weakness dash + the bonus 5 sec + impending + dire misfortune + curse of longing is actually less DPS?

patent mesa
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yeah it's absolutely awful

buoyant lark
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even though I only need to apply doom once ?

patent mesa
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yep

terse geyser
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yes.

high island
swift inlet
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Impending doom means your dooms trigger less

buoyant lark
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._.

hollow urchin
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i just unlocked the "inspire" poster

its hilarious oh my god the shades hate me

high island
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Second place is FoxHope btw.

swift inlet
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And each successive doom does less damage

buoyant lark
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dire misfortune increases it.

raw herald
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If you apply doom 3 times it’ll do more damage than col in the same time

buoyant lark
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o_O

swift inlet
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While merciful end = multiple impending doom triggers per second

buoyant lark
terse geyser
mint coral
terse geyser
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unless that was tailesque

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...

patent mesa
swift inlet
high island
mint coral
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Each repeated proc does 50%(?) less dmg

swift inlet
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Yeah, it's 50

raw herald
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Damn I have 16k messages

swift inlet
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Like, would you rather have 3 gradually weaker dooms over several seconds

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Or 3 full power impending dooms detonating in 1 seconds

patent mesa
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yep athena >>> aphro

latent moon
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always

buoyant lark
latent moon
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no need to weaken hits when you can just deflect them

patent mesa
latent moon
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lmao

latent moon
swift inlet
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Yeah

buoyant lark
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OOOH.

latent moon
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but curse of longing really isn't great literally because doom does less damage per strike, and if you keep reapplying doom from your attacks then it curse of longing is literally pointless

buoyant lark
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now I get what you guys are talking about.

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holy crap.

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curse of longing sucks.

patent mesa
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based

latent moon
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lmao

patent mesa
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stay far far away from aphro

latent moon
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steaming hot take

swift inlet
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Even if curse of longing gradually increased

buoyant lark
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but wait.

snow skiff
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hot take freezing vortex sucks

swift inlet
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It wouldn't be as good

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Like

patent mesa
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if you get an aphro boon you should probably purge it to avoid getting curse of longing

buoyant lark
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why the hecc would it say ''Succesive Hit Damage: 50%'' ?

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It doesn't say that it reduces it.

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just that each hit is 50% of the main.

patent mesa
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it should say -50% yeah

buoyant lark
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:|

swift inlet
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It means each hit does 50% damage

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Aka

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50% less

buoyant lark
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no.

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50% and 50% less are two different things.

swift inlet
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Yes

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They are the same

buoyant lark
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no.

latent moon
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oh i thought it was implied that it did 50% less lmao

swift inlet
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If it isn't 50% bonus

buoyant lark
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It doesn't.

swift inlet
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It means 50% damage

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Half damage

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Aka

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50% less

buoyant lark
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yes, I understand that.

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but what the boon does is that it reduces it by 50% each time it hits beyond the first.

terse geyser
buoyant lark
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It's supposed to say that specifically.

latent moon
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well

snow skiff
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nah

buoyant lark
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yet it only states ''successive hit damage: 50%''.

swift inlet
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That IS what it says

snow skiff
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hades in game descriptions suck

latent moon
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it says the consecutive hits deal 50% damage

swift inlet
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Successive hits of doom

snow skiff
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get used to it

swift inlet
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Do half damage

terse geyser
latent moon
swift inlet
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Oh yeah

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If you think that's bad

latent moon
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never said anything about increasing

swift inlet
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Wait until you get hades sigil

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Buff sigil btw

latent moon
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nothing about decreasing either but the wording leans more towards decreasing than increasing

swift inlet
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So it makes you invulnerable

latent moon
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it does doesn't it

patent mesa
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regardless the description should be better to emphasize how horrific aphro is in this case

latent moon
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until you strike

patent mesa
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it's just far less clear than it should be

swift inlet
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Oh maybe thats the issue

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I've used it vs stuff like dad beams and gotten hit

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I thought it was like Athena or pos/ares

patent mesa
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yep small call isn't invincible sadly

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big call is

swift inlet
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Is it

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Couldve sworn I've gotten hit with big call

patent mesa
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you bet

rustic vale
snow skiff
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yeah but also big call sucks

latent moon
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oh i thought small call is also invincible but it's just super short

swift inlet
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Why

patent mesa
swift inlet
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Isn't the bonus better

rustic vale
swift inlet
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Like what's the difference between unseen and invisible or whatever

latent moon
patent mesa
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invisible = stuff won't target you
unseen = stuff can't hit you

latent moon
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and the time is gonna be wasted on the invulnerability time

high island
swift inlet
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Ah

latent moon
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oh right that explains why i didn't get hit by a laser i forgot about that

buoyant lark
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that's what I understood under each hit is 50%.

swift inlet
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Oh, I see

buoyant lark
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Instead, it does it 50% less each time.

patent mesa
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yes yes we know the description sucks

swift inlet
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Even that is bad though

patent mesa
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sad

swift inlet
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Like

buoyant lark
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going 100 - 50 - 25.

swift inlet
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Even if col increased doom damage by 50%

buoyant lark
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but ye.

swift inlet
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It would suck

buoyant lark
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what is ''col'' ?

latent moon
patent mesa
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I'm not sure if the description or the actual duo sucks more

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hard to say

rustic vale
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curse of longing

swift inlet
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Actually

buoyant lark
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today I learned a harsh lesson.

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and now I want to get rid of this boon.

patent mesa
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good

swift inlet
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Col could double doom damage every time and still be sucky

patent mesa
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purge the aphro

buoyant lark
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from now on.

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merciful end only.

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or artemis + alphro.

patent mesa
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based athena lover

buoyant lark
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for that +150% crit.

latent moon
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based

swift inlet
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Buff ares dash

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Make the blades stay

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Don't make new blades wipe them

rustic vale
buoyant lark
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I didn't get it.

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😭

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now I'm stuck wth CoL.

swift inlet
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Well

patent mesa
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hence the confusion

swift inlet
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You can make it irrelevant

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Just hit it more

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Like if you keep triggering doom

rustic vale
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I mean it’s just a thing you have now

latent moon
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just play as if you dont have it lmao

patent mesa
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make sure to run all the tunnels in hopes you get another purging pool

swift inlet
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It'll refresh to the highest damage one

patent mesa
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hopefully you'll be able to sell it by then

rustic vale
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You don’t have to play into the boons you have

swift inlet
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^

buoyant lark
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my gosh.

swift inlet
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I just did 32 heat with barely any useful boons

buoyant lark
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my runs.

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are.

patent mesa
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no it's not enough to ignore it

buoyant lark
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way slower now.

patent mesa
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you have to purge it

swift inlet
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I literally had like 2 cores

buoyant lark
swift inlet
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Purge it

patent mesa
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good

rustic vale
patent mesa
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purge the aphro

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get her out of your run

swift inlet
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Acorn was big anyway

buoyant lark
patent mesa
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I can say no more on the matter

swift inlet
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Nerf beowulf btw

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Load casts into your special

latent moon
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based

swift inlet
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Bull rush is such a nasty mechanic even on normal shield

buoyant lark
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got any better builds in mind?

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for universal DPS?

swift inlet
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What weapon are you using

patent mesa
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true, just slap the best damage goddess of artemis onto attack and you're set

buoyant lark
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I can only think of merciful or artemis.

patent mesa
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or even athena/demeter

swift inlet
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Athena dem

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Isn't that mettle

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Or is that Athena poseidon

patent mesa
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latter

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athena dem is the epic stubborn roots

swift inlet
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Ah

swift inlet
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Building into smair zeus call works for any weapon

patent mesa
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just make sure to avoid aphro call if you do that

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wow we're avoiding aphro an awful lot lately

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weird

swift inlet
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For damage yeah

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But it can be funny if you wanna be safe

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Dad goes for beams

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Insta stop him

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Em3 asterius decides to beyblade

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Insta stop him

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Also what's the charm time for bosses

raw herald
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1/5 iirc

safe tinsel
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Em3 asterius is beyblade. Oh god no.

swift inlet
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Imagine if it was the full 5 or 6 seconds

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Smair aphro suddenly high heat savior

lean timber
latent moon
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oh yeah that's right

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never tried it on lernie or furies tho

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but for dad it's super short

buoyant lark
high island
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Smair + Aphrodite's Aid can carry high heat runs.

lean timber
buoyant lark
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wanna know what's been the hardest thing for me?

lean timber
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dealing with this ratio

buoyant lark
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trying to finish the quest that lets me fight charon twice.

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It's not possible.

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no matter how many runs.

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😐

lean timber
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sure it is

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just win against him twice in a row

patent mesa
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no it's not possible

buoyant lark
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10 runs in.

lean timber
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ur right my bad

buoyant lark
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wait.

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It actually isn't possible?

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then wtf is this quest for?

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D:

patent mesa
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nope charon too op

lean timber
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no it's bugged

buoyant lark
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WHAT?

lean timber
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doesn't finish

buoyant lark
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D:

latent moon
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i mean you can always wait until you get a good build before taking the fight the 2nd time, the first time you can lowkey just unga bunga it and throw out the run to beat him

latent moon
lean timber
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no we're not.

patent mesa
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it's bugged where the second time you fight him he gets massive buffs

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forced overtime 20

latent moon
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fo20 ez tho

lean timber
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fo20, constant hitbox. epic

patent mesa
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people have gotten close by abusing the best survivability goddess, demeter

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that converts him at full chill into FO18

high island
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If you don't skip mid-shops, it's nearly a 50% chance to see Charon's bag in a run. So you'll get plenty of opportunities.

swift inlet
high island
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Yeah. And put poms on Smair.

lean timber
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true.

swift inlet
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Balanced

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Are summons the only thing not affected by global damage buffs

patent mesa
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yeah pretty much

knotty elbow
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what's smair? I'm relatively new to the game so I barely know anything about boons

patent mesa
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although note that summons can be buffed by a few "true global damage" buffs

buoyant lark
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😐

latent moon
patent mesa
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because sweet surrender says "weak enemies take more damage"

#

same with targeting system, maim, and probably black out

swift inlet
#

So it basically lets you spam call

snow skiff
#

insane damage with cold fusion

buoyant lark
#

FO20?

latent moon
#

forced overtime 20

buoyant lark
#

o_o

patent mesa
#

I might try constructing an FO21 cold fusion save at various bosses to see how quickly they melt themselves

rustic vale
#

You just have to win 2 times in a row against him

#

No matter how many runs in between

latent moon
#

unga bunga the first one and burn 3 dd's on him, then the next one make sure you have an actual good build lmao

snow skiff
#

burning dds on charon is for noobs

buoyant lark
#

''undamaged foes''.

rustic vale
#

3 dd’s for 300 obols and 20% discount is mega worth

buoyant lark
#

does that only count for the first hit ?

rustic vale
#

yes

buoyant lark
#

so it sucks on sword.

#

cool.

rustic vale
#

you want first hit to kill so generally better for regular rooms

latent moon
high island
#

Indeed.

rustic vale
#

Special on sword zagluv

patent mesa
#

for most people shadow > fiery on sword

#

more effective vs bosses and sword backstabs a lot

rustic vale
#

D strikes tend to put you on the other side of bosses so yeah

swift inlet
#

tfw 2 chaos gates and still a 3 minute tart leave

#

I genuinely cannot rama in tart

patent mesa
#

yeah no one can

latent moon
#

rama too hard to play

buoyant lark
#

Idk what's better on sword.

#

nemesis or arthur.

#

._.

#

+30% crit or bonus life.

swift inlet
#

Seriously how the hell is rama 2nd on leaderboard

buoyant lark
swift inlet
signal aspen
swift inlet
#

Also arthur bad

#

Should I do art strike on rama or just grab lrod

signal aspen
#

There are like 2 people who can Speedrun rama at a high level

swift inlet
#

I could force aphro in elysium but ehhhh

signal aspen
#

Idk probably rod

buoyant lark
#

how do I complete Sea God's Spite?

#

I did Extreme Measures.

#

I equipped Poseidon's keepsake.

#

nothing happens.

#

spammed give up.

#

got 2 diff dialogues.

#

but no prophecy foretold.

swift inlet
#

Nevermind

#

Time to play hera

buoyant lark
#

anyone know?

lean timber
#

extreme measures 3

#

it only affects theseus if you do em3 or em4 (do not do em4)

#

after that talk to posideon

#

(you have to beat the fight)

snow skiff
rustic vale
#

He isn’t “under the effect” of extreme measures unless it’s extreme measures 3 or 4

buoyant lark
#

nowhere was that mentioned.

#

this game is very clear in its quests.

rustic vale
#

It was

buoyant lark
#

where?

rustic vale
#

The game is very clear

#

He wasn’t effected by extreme measures

swift inlet
#

He said theseus gets a chariot

rustic vale
#

Affected*

buoyant lark
#

nvm.

#

they are clear on that at least.

#

I just didn't read it as one per region.

#

that is my b.

rustic vale
#

It do work like that

signal aspen
#

i wish it affected every boss at lvl 1

#

would make hades much more spicy

rustic vale
swift inlet
#

Bruh

#

I'm having the weirdest rng

#

Free rooms keep overlapping

signal aspen
#

nice

swift inlet
#

2 chaos gates

#

One with midshop

#

One with eury

rustic vale
#

Me when I see the portal thing pop out of the ground and take the erebus free froom

swift inlet
#

LMAO

rustic vale
#

🧠

#

Being affected by 2 or more chaos curses at the same time is gaming

#

Whenever you attack lose hp
Whenever you special lose hp
zagcry

#

Movespeed down
Dash range down
💀

terse geyser
#

are the buffs good

lean timber
#

yeah they're great at rare+ variety

#

common is kind of meh but at heat you take what you can get

lean timber
mint coral
lean timber
#

no it doesn't because it's not purple

#

i need ALL my boons to be purple or the run is dead

#

(except green, red and orange ones)

swift inlet
#

If you don't get it c3 you reset

lean timber
#

i've got it perhaps three times in all my runs

#

lmao

#

pride comes thru so hard for me tho

rustic vale
lean timber
buoyant lark
#

Is Hoarding Slash good on nemesis sword?

#

Idk what the minimum muni should be to make this worthwhile.

#

daedalus hammer btw.

patent mesa
buoyant lark
#

and I got flurry slash and breaching slash too.

#

😐

#

do I just go flurry slash?

patent mesa
#

breaching is okay

#

works on dash strikes

buoyant lark
#

flurry sux?

patent mesa
#

yeah

buoyant lark
#

aight.

snow skiff
#

Flurry sux

patent mesa
#

arguably the best hoarding slash aspect is zag sword

#

but it's the best not actually good

signal aspen
#

flurry goated players just dont realize it

buoyant lark
#

lightning bolts?

signal aspen
#

im kidding flurry sucks

buoyant lark
#

xD

patent mesa
#

but if you get it yeah zeus is good

#

probably the best bet outside of cursed flurry aphro

#

not that it's actually good relative to other stuff tho

snow skiff
#

Flurry slash piercing wave

signal aspen
rustic vale
patent mesa
rustic vale
#

I love flurry slash on zag sword with heroic swift strike and piercing wave

lean timber
#

mfw internal cooldown

swift inlet
#

Why am I not getting the thanks but no thanks achievement

#

I purged ares' legendary

raw herald
#

Purge aphro legendary instead 👍

signal aspen
snow skiff
#

What about flare

#

Is that the one where it goes +0

patent mesa
signal aspen
patent mesa
#

I use slicing flare

raw herald
#

It gets +2 on aid

signal aspen
snow skiff
patent mesa
patent mesa
terse geyser
#

slicing flare is fine

#

it's just also worse than basically any other flare

#

is all

patent mesa
#

icy flare:

signal aspen
#

slicing flare might be the worst flare

patent mesa
#

ring of ice garbage tier

signal aspen
#

could be tied with icy flare

#

since icy flare has the same pom scaling as slicing flare

patent mesa
#

but icy flare is a ring of ice

#

so it's automatically trash

signal aspen
#

just get this in every room

#

while the enemies are still alive

#

ez game

warm nimbus
#

but not sure

remote iris
#

ares boons are the best fight me

latent moon
#

doom is only good with the most high roll duo in the game lmao

remote iris
#

also he's hot

latent moon
#

and his slicing shot is only good with hunting blades since boiling blood is a better damage source, blade dash exists i guess

#

and his legendary doesn't work for some stuff

strong ridge
#

idk area cast can get like 300 dmg per cast if u rly hit em with good prediction

remote iris
#

average infront of desk trade fan vs average "up close and personal" trade enjoyer

#

when get image perms

latent moon
#

send embeds

strong ridge
#

slicing shot is pretty solid for hallway fights

#

and furies

latent moon
latent moon
strong ridge
#

they are soft you can do decent chunk just by dumping towards them off the rip

latent moon
#

i guess

lean timber
#

furieez n

signal aspen
remote iris
#

(real)

rustic vale
#

Facts

#

See because I beat 65 heat

remote iris
#

i gotta get that ui

rustic vale
#

Yes

#

You must pay like 30000 darkness for that ui

remote iris
#

25000*

rustic vale
#

It’s 25000?

#

aight

remote iris
#

yeqh

lean timber
#

yep

rustic vale
#

couldn’t remember

lean timber
#

it's also the sickest

#

so worth

rustic vale
#

Working my way through respurce director now then going to finally max out fated room reroller

remote iris
#

Zagreus: Why won't you just let me leave?
Hades: sigh It's not about the Olympians, Zagreus. It's about the ||METS BABY LOVE THE METS GO METS GET A HOME RUN||

buoyant lark
#

anyone around?

#

Wave Pounding - ''Your Boons with knock-away effects deal bonus damage to Bosses''.

#

does this mean that if my auto attack is poseidon's, I'll deal +40% damage?

#

or only if they're knocked away?

latent moon
#

i mean every enemy you hit gets knocked back so it'll apply anyways

buoyant lark
#

yeah but.

latent moon
#

but also doesn't tempest strike have an extremely low % damage lol

buoyant lark
#

vs. hades 'n the other bosses.

latent moon
#

bosses get knocked back too

buoyant lark
#

oh.

latent moon
#

it's just reduced a lot

buoyant lark
#

then I just got +40% damage.

#

o_o

#

keep the tempest strike?

#

or switch to artemi?

#

bow + zagreus aspect.

latent moon
#

oh arty strike 100%

#

poseidon has like the lowest % modifier lmao

buoyant lark
#

crap.

latent moon
#

actually arty does but she can crit

#

have you switched it yet actually

buoyant lark
#

wdym?

latent moon
#

and where are you in the run

buoyant lark
#

chamber 12.

#

epic boon choice.

rustic vale
buoyant lark
#

floodshot, razor shoals, wave pounding.

#

my only 3 options.

latent moon
buoyant lark
#

Idk what to pick here.

#

=S

rustic vale
#

Razor shoals zagluv zagluv zagluv

#

What rarity is the shoals

latent moon
#

ngl i'd take flood shot and then sell tempest strike to get a different one in asphodel

buoyant lark
#

so I can still go many ways in my build.

#

wat2do.

#

😐

latent moon
buoyant lark
#

flood shot good?

latent moon
#

i mean it'll do its job in styx

#

knock stuff around, big wall slams

buoyant lark
#

hmmm.

#

300 damage off razor shoals.

#

=S

latent moon
#

tdash is better for that because it has use out of styx but bows generally need some sort of aoe for styx

#

and flood shot works great for that

#

tempest strike is just extremely bad imo so i'd just get rid of it asap lmao

#

and at least with flood shot you'll still have a poseidon core

buoyant lark
#

o well.

#

died.

#

but finished 4 quests.

latent moon
#

based

buoyant lark
#

double charon, maimed chaos boon, sea god's spite.

winter harbor
#

Ugh, got to the second phase of the Hades fight, got so close to beating him on my fresh file

latent moon
#

it do be like that

swift inlet
#

Hot take ares shouldn't have doom except as a revenge effect

#

Go all in on blades

#

Attack spawns lil blades

#

Special big blade

lean timber
buoyant lark
#

hmmm.

#

quick spin or extending jab on spear?

#

I have punishing sweep.

#

latter, ye?

buoyant lark
high island
buoyant lark
#

dang.

#

extending jab tho.

#

wat2do.

remote iris
#

ok

high island
#

@buoyant lark Quick Spin much better.

buoyant lark
high island
#

Yes.

rustic vale
#

So quick spin

#

What was third hammer option

buoyant lark
#

forgot, was ass.

rustic vale
#

If it was exploding bouldy

patent mesa
#

can someone screenshot the info for flying cutter and test what its buff is

warm nimbus
#

yeah 1 sec

latent moon
#

tmw you get a tart mirage but hermes decides to never give you hyper sprint

native blade
#

Tempest Flourish is goated with fists.

swift inlet
#

Tempest flourish on fists sounds like it does nothing

#

The only time I can think of it doing something notable is on Chiron in a speedrun

native blade
swift inlet
#

Tidal dash

#

Much better at that

#

Tidal dash on its own is so good that it makes several builds better just because they can blast through styx where they otherwise couldn't

high island
swift inlet
rain relic
swift inlet
#

Charged skewer better

rain relic
#

i disagree

#

pair Quick Spin GY with Dionysus or Artemis, it's kinda nutty

swift inlet
#

Turn on fo2 and bp2

#

You won't get any spins off against speedy wavemakers or chariots

#

Charged skewer has better damage and is safer to boot

rain relic
#

Quick Spin makes the spin come out practically instantly though

#

also, if you're playing GY for safety, you're doing it wrong

swift inlet
#

That's-

#

Not the point

#

Charged skewer is better and much better players than either of us agree

rain relic
#

well i disagree

swift inlet
#

Charged skewer does more damage in a shorter time and is safer, with better range, so like

rain relic
#

if you prefer Skewer that's fine, i just prefer the spin

#

the Spin is funny

swift inlet
#

Preferring is not the same thing as being better

#

I like Nemesis more than Hestia

#

But Hestia is just better

#

Super soaker lucifer is a very fun build and I like it more than Hestia

#

But Hestia is better

rain relic
#

and?

swift inlet
#

If you like gy spin, that's fine, but there's a difference between enjoying something and it being strong

rain relic
#

GY Spin is strong though

swift inlet
#

If you can turtle up and just spam it to heal, it's nice. It's not bad or anything

#

But if you're pushing higher difficulty or trying to speedrun, it's better to invest in the special

rain relic
#

pair it with Artemis sometime, if you get lucky with crits the burst damage is ridiculous

swift inlet
#

The burst damage from skewer is literally, mathematically better

patent mesa
#

it's not even close

swift inlet
#

You can get 1.5k+ off one crit

rain relic
patent mesa
#

what's your highest gy heat

swift inlet
#

A spin build wishes it had three hammers

#

Charged skewer needs literally one

rain relic
patent mesa
#

ok cool so that's settled up then, charged skewer >>>>>>>> quick spin

rain relic
#

i still disagree

patent mesa
#

homie you're at 7 heat

rain relic
#

and?

patent mesa
#

no offense but anything works there

swift inlet
#

Zag fists without ME works there

patent mesa
#

when the question "what's best gy hammer" comes up the best answer is gonna come from much higher heat than 7

#

and really anything 40+ is locked into charged skewer because it's that strong

swift inlet
#

Boonless shackleless unupgraded zag fists works at 7 heat

#

Fun builds are fine, I've run into some funny stuff while messing around or trying stuff out

#

But you can't use that to argue that something is stronger than meta stuff

rain relic
#

maybe it's because i just never use GY's Q but i honestly don't see the value in it

patent mesa
#

it's by far by far the best part of the aspect

rain relic
#

i fail to see that

swift inlet
#

Comes out quick, travels far, does a lot of damage, big hitbox

patent mesa
#

high heat gy play is literally all about the special

#

like it does 95% of the dps

swift inlet
#

With charged skewer Artemis special it does mongo damage

rain relic
#

i'm probably still going to take the spin over the skewer when i get to high heat tbh

patent mesa
#

alright cool

#

if you like it and think it's "hilarious" or whatever then more power to you

#

just don't go saying it's objectively better than the hammer that 90% of 40+ and 95% of 50+ gy runs use

#

because that's objectively false

rain relic
#

i never said it was objectively better though

#

i just said that it's funnier then the skewer by a country mile

#

which it is

patent mesa
#

you disagreed when @swift inlet said cskewer was better than qspin

gusty kelp
#

what should i take for attack on rama

raw herald
#

A beefy % attack

swift inlet
#

You could do art but I think the most common is aphro for the percent

patent mesa
#

special only rama is unaruably

rain relic
patent mesa
#

k

#

good for you

raw herald
#

High rarity aphro/Demeter/Athena and any rarity Artemis

#

Artemis dash is also amazing on Rama

swift inlet
#

This has the same energy as people that call pokemon players uber spammers

#

While insisting their magikarp is the best set on the planet

rain relic
#

magikarp literally being designed to be useless notwithstanding

patent mesa
#

just like non qspin gy spin lmao

rain relic
#

oh yeah i agree

#

GY spin without Qspin is a pain

#

but with Qspin it's hysterical

patent mesa
#

cool

rain relic
#

on a less subjective note, what's better for Lucy-Exagryph, Dionysus or Zeus?

patent mesa
#

zeus almost always

swift inlet
#

Dionysus only does better damage than zeus when zeus doesn't have support boons from what I understand

#

And 99% of the time you'll have zeus support boons

patent mesa
#

dio is a funny meme but lucy attacks too fast for dio only stacking to 5 to outperform even when jolted/splitting aren't in play

swift inlet
#

Buff dio to 10 stacks

patent mesa
#

eris accepts dio much better because it attacks slower and has buff

swift inlet
#

Make the aphro duo raise it to 15

patent mesa
#

dio's still arguably second best attack for lucy though don't get me wrong

#

just not even close to zeus supremacy there

#

also zeus sets off hellfire by far the best of all the attack gods so that's another ocean between him and the rest

rain relic
#

Zeus primary, Dio Q
think that'll work well?

patent mesa
#

no not really

#

lucy special has really high base damage so you wanna make it chunky

rain relic
#

Dio Cast just to make things explode more then?

patent mesa
#

artemis is premiere choice for obvious reasons but aphro athena dem all good

raw herald
#

Dio aid is probably his best core slot

patent mesa
#

yeah dio cast is generally not that good

#

and zeus attack basically gets hellfires to instantly go off so you never need to commit anything else to that purpose

gusty kelp
#

twin shot is so free

terse geyser
rain relic
terse geyser
#

yes.

rain relic
#

and more to the point, why would you?

#

m1 primary, m2 cast, Q special, works well enough

swift inlet
#

Why would special not be m2-

terse geyser
swift inlet
#

Precise movement specifically

terse geyser
#

yes

swift inlet
#

I love getting only 8 directions on mnk

#

Whooo

terse geyser
#

easy fix though

patent mesa
#

generally it's agreed upon that the best mapping for special is delete key

rain relic
#

...

terse geyser
#

just do this lol

patent mesa
#

that gives good synergy with the other best hestia keybinds of ctrl for attack and alt for reload

rain relic
#

i point-blank refuse to believe that this is what is considered optimal

swift inlet
#

The joke

Dmdarren

rain relic
swift inlet
#

Have you tried using a mariokart wheel

rain relic
swift inlet
#

Optimal playstyle for shield

#

Rail uses guitar hero guitars

gusty kelp
#

use a pen to play hades

swift inlet
#

Fists use wiimote and nunchuk

rain relic
#

you do have to admit though that if someone was to look at the optimal controller loadout for Hades without any context they'd be understandably confused

raw herald
#

This is optimal for the witches circle and nothing else lmao

terse geyser
#

optimal for *everything, thank you

gusty kelp
#

mfw

swift inlet
rain relic
#

mfw you're not allowed to swear in a discord about a game where the main character quite literally calls one of the bosses a "flying b----d"

swift inlet
#

Bastard isn't that naughty to them I guess

patent mesa
terse geyser
patent mesa
#

automod is way too aggressive in this server

swift inlet
#

What about bdsm with meg

terse geyser
swift inlet
#

Zag is both cat whipped and literally whipped