supergiant-games

[tribal meadow]

yes!

[fresh rain]

I want it to have sounds like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mW7u4tXGXFk

[tribal meadow]

turn based spooky stealth NBA jam with GUN

[fresh rain]

|| this was my nightmare a couple months ago||

[tribal meadow]

i was thinking about some really heavy, grimy industrial sounds
akin to SH1 or CoF or Lone Survivor - this sort of stuff

[fresh rain]

Bioshock-like!

really really really loved Bioshock infinite

[tribal meadow]

THAT SAID
if i see just one more gosh-darn bow in the next game...

[fresh rain]

bet your sweet bippy that there will be a Power-cast in the next game

[gleaming tapir]

Omg something in the vein of Cry of Fear would be awesome, a big sprawling survival horror? Pretty ambitious though

[tribal meadow]

i mean - it doesn't have to be big

[fresh rain]

an MGS-esque horror game is what all I need

that has a Bioshock feel to it

[tribal meadow]

but then again - their last two games were pretty thicc with content so who the heck knows

[fresh rain]

^^

[odd oyster]

me, before seeing nxc suggest bioshock-esque vibes: hmm, not a fan of horror in general
me, after seeing that suggestion: ...UNLESS 👀

[fresh rain]

hmm, a fan in the flesh

Would you kindly?

[odd oyster]

it is a very very very subtle nuance for me to enjoy that genre. it's something I've come to realise with the years. (tried a few times different horror movies and it rarely worked out for me xD)

let me warn you tho, I have yet to play the first bioshock xD

I have it tho! I bought a second hand copy of it this last summer. lacking the cd reader at the moment so I'm playing hades until the end of times 🤣

but yes, a fan of bioshock xD

[fresh rain]

guessing that you've played infinite

[odd oyster]

mhmm and bioshock 2 as well

[fresh rain]

|| that was one helluva confusing story , and the two dlcs||

||the last dlc tho.... , heartfingbroken||

[odd oyster]

haha yes ||that mini story DLC was...... one heck of a ride. one I won't replay because I'm still too broken years later 🙈 ||

[fresh rain]

I can't do that again

[odd oyster]

but yeah, that take on the genre(s) I'd like to see from SGG. as well as something dishonored-esque in the stealth ways because I love that too chef's kiss

[fresh rain]

yooooo, a dishonored fan too

quite a lot in common , huh

[odd oyster]

high five :D

[fresh rain]

high five

[odd oyster]

unique stories and unusual gameplays are apparently what makes me become a big fan of a majority of my fave games xD

ofc SGG was an instant hit with me

[fresh rain]

the scenery of dishonored 2 will never be outmatched by any one

[odd oyster]

too true (that was me with dishonored 1. then 2 came xD)

[tribal meadow]

well well well

• clears throat *

[odd oyster]

(although, maybe we ought to move to #video-games )

[tribal meadow]

in that case @odd oyster
let me introduce you to frictional games and their spooktakular underwater stealth-them-up called Soma

[fresh rain]

yes yes

[tribal meadow]

and yes - we should

[fresh rain]

lets go there

[cold cove]

My ti'zo plush finally came in the mail

im living my best life now

[haughty crane]

[cold cove]

my posters should be here tmrw

got a transistor one and the 10th anniversary one of ppl from all 4 games

[cold cove]

i told my brother abt my plush and he told me he hopes it implodes when i cuddle it to sleep at night

[tardy barn]

😬

But he’ll be back for cuddles.

[cold cove]

TRUE

[vale leaf]

did you get the red poster?

it's honestly my fave one, on my wall as well

[haughty berry]

suddenly thought about if SG could pull off a fighting game, since hades' visuals remind me of the genre for some reason.

[cold cove]

yeah!!

[cold cove]

ooo thatd be cool

[haughty berry]

imagine if you lose in a story mode but the plot continues, and I'm not talking about losing to an unkillable boss

[tribal meadow]

when you said "SGG fighting game" my mind went "lethal league"

[haughty berry]

my first thought was arcsys-like anime fighter, then a moba-like similar to battlerite, then smash, then lethal league.

[tribal meadow]

i just want them to make a horror game already

||just kidding - i love you folks and i'll be on board with anything you do ||

||but make a horror game tho ||

[fresh rain]

@ sgg plz make boo game

[eager cipher]

ey

[cold cove]

v excited for their future projects

sgg always does amazing

OFC im more than enjoying hades rn tho

[astral totem]

Brb

[brazen gulch]

Hey all, I am doing some research on artists for a class, and I am looking for information and links about Jen Zee!

Things like background, education, and insight about influences. If anyone has tips or links, I would greatly appreciate it!

[haughty crane]

https://www.supergiantgames.com/team/
This has some information

[fresh rain]

you can start by her deviantart..
way too cool stuff is posted there

[brazen gulch]

@haughty crane @fresh rain Thanks, I will scour those on my search

[haughty crane]

DeviantArt is here: https://www.deviantart.com/jenzee

[brazen gulch]

It is really hard to find a "years" or "years active" for someone young and alive haha

[tribal meadow]

you could also try looking up some interviews
like the ones from PAX or the noclip docs @brazen gulch

and i think... jen's got a twitter too
though i'm not 100% sure - i'm not all that into social media

[brazen gulch]

@tribal meadow its nice but not really bibliographical for my needs unfortunately: https://twitter.com/0jenzee0

Jen Zee (@0jenzee0)

Art Director @Supergiantgames for Bastion, Transistor, Pyre and Hades! I LOVE THINGS. And stuff.

Instagram: http://instagram.com/jenzee_art/

Tweets

3514

Followers

57713

Twitter

[tribal meadow]

i know she worked on an MMO called, um...
gaia online, i think? you can also try googling that

[haughty crane]

^^

[tribal meadow]

and @brazen gulch - if you want to woo your teacher with your research and knowledge - make sure to read up on the art of Gustav Klimt - apparently his stuff was a huge source of inspiration for the art of Transistor

[odd oyster]

wait, do you mean the gaiaonline I think you mean? 👀

[tribal meadow]

i don't even know what gaia online i mean
i'm not big on MMOs

but i'm pretty sure jen worked on it before the bastion days

[odd oyster]

well, do tell me what mmo means then aslkdjasd xD

~~not my brain going mmmmo! as if we're talking about the MO from Wall-E 🙈 😂 ~~

[fresh rain]

MMO games like WoW

Genshin impact ( does it really count?) and Destiny 2 to an extent

[tribal meadow]

oh! and one more thing @brazen gulch
there's a great doc on Giant Bomb called "building the bastion" - as far as i know it's one of the first pieces of this kind about SGGs - you might learn some more history there

[odd oyster]

hmm did a quick lookie on wikipedia and the game in gaiaonline is zOMG which is one of those MMO and I hardly believe there's more gaiaonlines out there lkalsj anyway, that's really cool that she worked on it

[cold cove]

sgg mmo would be like

legendary

i dont think id ever play any other mmo again

and i play ff14 and mhw

[clever dew]

Klimt influence on Transistor, Sergio Toppi influence on Pyre iirc

[tribal meadow]

sgg mmo would be the first sgg game i'd skip

[cold cove]

danggg

i mean i'll play whatever they make next no matter what it is

they seem to continously hit all the things i look for in a game (characters, music, art, narrative, etc.)

so the type of game/gameplay isnt usually something that would sway my attention

but i totally get how it may for others

[tribal meadow]

i mean - okay...
i would probably play it too
but i'd be like that otter eating watermelon

"Otter dislikes watermelon, but can't stop eating it"

this sort of thing

an SGG horror game, however...

[cold cove]

LOL

horror is the one genre i usually actively avoid but

SGG may be the only devs who could make me want to play horror

sgg is the one developer where i would play no matter what type of game it is just bc its made by them so ik its high quality and has a lot of love put into it

[tribal meadow]

inb4 the next game is gonna be "Super Giant Kart"

[cold cove]

LOL

includes its own cast + dlc of iconic characters from other games

you can finally be ti'zo on a motorcycle

[tribal meadow]

man - imagine all the cool tracks that would be in this game
the Cinderbrick Fort Cicruit - with sharp corners and clutter on the track
the Ura Highway - with ice physics
the Cloudbank arena - with lots of space for drifting
Downtown Commonwealth - with shortcuts and narrow alleys
and - let's not forget - the 24 hour long Tour De Elisyum

[fast thicket]

you know the bowser's castle stages in mario games? that but it's the house of hades

[tribal meadow]

knowing Amir he'd still find a way to cram in a Power Cast into a racing game

[gleaming tapir]

I mean, drift-boost is a thing in Mario Kart so...

[tribal meadow]

nyeeeeeh

[fresh rain]

hmm
High rise tho...

[gleaming tapir]

chased by the Spine

seadoo/water track at the Hulk of Orres/Isle of Khaylmer?

[clever dagger]

Hi there, if there is a small chance the devs are around, thank you for a fantastic gaming experience 🙂 Too bad about the lack of sleep though hehe

Thank you for a truly great game. 🙂

[quasi hemlock]

Man can’t believe darren k is in here, every part of the game was good but the soundtrack blew my mind

[hoary zodiac]

I literally love this game.

[scenic flame]

After playing hades i need to play transistor

Supergiant makes some good games for sure

[faint scaffold]

You guys should look into acquiring the rights to Deaths Door and revamping it to be a solo player game 🥰

[gray ermine]

you guys... my buddy in america bought me some supergiant vinyls. 😭

it's been a years long dream of mine to own some and now I got em!!!!!

[cold cove]

awesome!! im so glad u were able to get them

the sgg music is so good

[dense vine]

Hey I didn't particularly know where to put this because it's kinda a generalized question about Supergiant's terms so I'll put it here.
I was thinking about doing a personal hand-done recreation of that giant map scroll that is in between loading transitions in Hades just for personal use and wanted to know if that was unwelcome? I noticed in the "policy on fan merchandise" it said don't use official "art or assets from our games" and I didn't really know if that referred to just like prints of art or just the entirety of the art in general. I see quite a bit of like redraws and all of that so I was wondering if it'd be alright to do a hand-done redraw of that giant map scroll. If you've got any answers for that question that'd be great!

[haughty crane]

I'd recommend reaching out to the devs through https://www.supergiantgames.com/contact/ ! They check that a bit more frequently than the discord

[pseudo prism]

forewarning their emails have been backlogged

[dense vine]

Got it! Thank you very much

[haughty crane]

As tatz said, they have been getting quite a bit, so it may still take a bit before you get a reply

[dense vine]

Alright, I'm honestly not quite sure it'd be allowed but I hope it would be because remaking that piece would be a ton of fun

[pseudo prism]

I think the bit about not using official art is like. literally taking artwork that's been posted or game assets or smth and using those, it's not really the same thing if you're redrawing it yourself by hand. but it would certainly be best to seek clarification from the team

[dense vine]

Honestly the reason I was asking in the first place was to clarify if that rule was only in place for prints or for recreations as well

[pseudo prism]

ah yeah they don't specify with that

[dense vine]

I also didn't really think they specified much on if the rules were only in place for merchandise to sell or personal stuff, but that is neither here nor there, they can't account for every question

[pseudo prism]

well all you can do is contact them. i don't know how big their backlog is or how long it will take to catch up but if you go a week or two without a response, feel free to try pinging their twitter or bring it up again here

[dense vine]

I'm not planning on starting it for at least another few months anyway lol, college is rough

[pseudo prism]

oh LOL well then i guess waiting a bit won't be too much of a bother

still though if you haven't seen a reply by then feel free to drop back in

[haughty crane]

now ain't that a mood

:3

[dense vine]

Not really lol, making those things takes time anyways, I made a different one for a different in game art piece that was like 30 inches x 20 inches and it took forever, if I do start on this one it'll be 28x48

and even more complicated

so I'm waiting until I've got summer break open lol

[coarse thicket]

lawl

[fervent flame]

Do show it off when your done though! That sounds so cool and I'd love to see it

[half root]

I think its just ok if you dont use it for monetization like selling it or something

[dense vine]

Looking at the language on their policy for fan merchandise it does look like they're only referring to selling stuff (rather than making for personal use) now that I'm looking at it without being tired outside of my mind, I still probably think I'll wait until I make sure though as sometimes its hard to tell with stuff like this

[quaint patio]

Soooo will hades come to other consoles cus I want to play it on ps4

[faint moth]

from the #hades-faq

Will Hades ever come to other platforms?
We launched v1.0 of Hades only on Nintendo Switch, Steam, and the Epic Games Store. We'll be considering opportunities to bring the game to additional platforms down the line. Thank you for your interest.

[fervent glacier]

Congrats to the team and Hades for winning Best Game at The New York Game Awards!

[pseudo prism]

[high mica]

Yesss, it was so very deserved!!! Thank you team for blessing us, quite literally, with this masterpiece!

[fervent glacier]

also for anyone who missed it, Darren and Ashley performed for the NY Game Awards as well!
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/889356157?t=3h3m38s

[tardy barn]

Their performance begins at 3:04

[half parcel]

Hello Everyone, i just finish the story of hades and i got shock, i just buy all the supergiant games, whitch one should I play frist? (the OST and the story is something i really care rather the roge-like mecanic)

[haughty crane]

I personally went and played the rest in release order (Bastion, Transistor, Pyre). It was really cool seeing how they improved and developed over time

[half parcel]

Yes i thought about it, is just i got some review about bastion and i was unsure (bascily i was told if i have in mind to play an hades 2 i will be disappointed) so that why i ask you here

[haughty crane]

sure!

Bastion has similar gameplay in some ways, though the action is slower

it has the most similar combat though, out of the three

[worthy trellis]

Congrats to the SGG team for all the awards Hades got in the New York Game Awards! Well deserved

[limpid raft]

Well deserved

[limpid raft]

lmao hades asserted dominance at The New York Game Awards

[fresh rain]

Hades straight up T-posed at everything

[limpid raft]

ngl hades could've won best kids game if it wasnt for aphrodite being naked

[chrome prawn]

And the ||BDSM implications|| of Meg/Zag, or all the LGBT represenatation in the game

[clever dew]

Hopefully we're past the point where LGBT representation automatically brands something as mature?

[fast thicket]

^

[chrome prawn]

You'd think, but people who give awards are typically behind the times. LGBT rep in mainstream TV only became a normal thing in, like, 2018

Consider that ||Korrasami|| wasn't allowed beyond hand-holding in 2014, and ||She-Ra|| was queercoded from 2018 to 2020. We're a ways off from children's TV having LGBT rep normalised

[clever dew]

I'm aware of the struggles of showrunners everywhere (best of luck to Lumberjanes, now!), but a game awards committee is not a major TV network... I don't think Hades would qualify due to, yknow, all the blood, for starters. ESRB has it at Teen for violence, blood, mild language, alcohol references and suggestive themes... looks like Dio is as culpable as Aphrodite in this regard, haha!

But something like... Bugsnax, idk? I haven't played Bugsnax yet, I only osmosed it has a gay couple in it somewhere? is at E10+ for reasons that don't mention the LGBT couple... (ETA ditto Undertale)

[azure prawn]

Last Developing Hell?

Damn, we all want DLC, comon'

[pseudo prism]

realistically speaking there's not a whole lot they can add with dlc since the story is so tight already that trying to introduce significant narrative elements could be a little awkward. they could do like potentially additional weapons or something but any substantial content may as well be done as a sequel, if anything imo

i think even if they added in like. a few new prophecies with a new character or whatever people would still be like "that's it? :/”

[devout siren]

is there anyone i can message about an order from the store? ive sent two support requests on the website and its been over a month

[pseudo prism]

hey friend, apologies! the team has been backlogged in emails since the holidays and have been trying to catch up, which is what is causing the delays. is this a time sensitive thing or just a general inquiry?

[pure lynx]

I remember Supergiant from way back before Bastion, and seeing Greg at the first PAX East ||I still have the bandanna somewhere here||. I listened to a lot of his stuff from the Gamespot days. It is so cool to see how much SG has grown and how huge Hades is. Just wanted to say you all rock.

[devout siren]

my mom said she ordered me the Hades soundtrack on vinyl and she lost the confirmation email, was wondering if it could get resent

[dense nacelle]

damn

we really in the supergiant games channel in the supergiant games category in the supergiant games server

[fresh rain]

and we're talking about supergiant games

talk about an SSGception

[dense nacelle]

[hollow zealot]

So all I want to know now is...everything about SGG's NEXT game....I'm ready!

[pseudo prism]

I see! you would probably have to get in touch with @atomic flicker about that (gently pings..)

[atomic flicker]

Yeah I can help you with that @devout siren ! If you DM me the name the order was addressed to, I can message you an update.

[glacial ferry]

Bidet!

Also yeah but I low-key hope it's like another Hades one gimme those sweet sweet classical history vibes

The only other one that I can think of that's p spot on in this way is Apotheon

[quick bluff]

i kind of hope that their next game will have an original world. their first three games had such vibrant settings

[kindred mauve]

do the games (besides hades) tend to go on sale on switch pretty often like bastion does? i really want to look into transistor and pyre soon but im usually low on money

[pseudo prism]

transistor is always on sale with bastion, pyre did not get a switch release

[kindred mauve]

ty 👍

i never realized oops

[devout siren]

will do!!

[gloomy sequoia]

I just realized I sourced Supergiant as a key inspiration in all my major works without any intention for this to happen and for 3 different reasons (so a thank you for supergiant for carrying me to graduation)

[tranquil zealot]

Transistor was the free ps+ game at one point as well

So if you have a PS4 maybe you already have it

[clever dew]

And on Epic as well! While Pyre is in the big racial equality bundle!

[tranquil zealot]

That’s good to hear

And I would have paid a lot more than $60 for transistor, it’s better than the vast majority of games released at that price

[tulip cargo]

Hello, I'm not sure if this is the right avenue for my problem, but I was hoping I could at least be redirected. I purchased posters from the Supergiant store almost a month ago (2 days before the site said the shipping team came back from break), last week a printing label was made, but no movement since or updates. I emailed twice and submitted 2 support tickets along the way with no reply. Honestly just confused at this point on all counts. Thanks for reading!

[faint moth]

hey friend, apologies! Supergiant has been backlogged in emails since the holidays and have been trying to catch up, which is what is causing the delays.

[tulip cargo]

Cheers for the swift reply, pal! That makes me wonder, is there someone I might be able to reach out to and offer support in that regard? I'm in a similar line of work, love Supergiant, and I see a need! Thanks 🙏

[faint moth]

No worries
unfortunately not I that I'm aware of, the contact us page on their website says Supergiant aren't looking expand their team atm, but they'll likely update the website if that changes ^_^

[tulip cargo]

I'll keep an eye out and try my luck on Twitter! I'm actually in content moderation for [redacted game studio], so my job is literally involving Discord moderation at the moment. If you all here ever need any help with that, consider me a volunteer, ripe for vetting! Happy to have just found this group and I'll be around either way. Thanks!

[rigid coyote]

Hello ! Is there still no European distributor for merchandising ? Shipping cost is a bit pricy from US

[weary quarry]

So far there's only a distributor for vinyls - https://blackscreenrecords.com/search?q=supergiant+games

They are all sold out for now, though 😦

[rigid coyote]

ok thank you

[tribal meadow]

so - i'm watching the latest part of the hades noclip documentary, and...

Amir! 😱
Language!

also - it's nice to see that Greg's room didn't change one bit since early bastion days

that fabulous Ultima V boxed copy is probably still somewhere there

[rain anchor]

[fresh rain]

hey! Amir's here
well done on these docu series, I saw a couple of vids from NoClip !

[wild patrol]

that moment when someone makes a game and you like the game that they made

[tribal meadow]

aaawwwww
http://prntscr.com/xzi36a

that cat is the most valuable SGG employee
that cat needs a raise

[wild patrol]

extra treat🍪

[fresh rain]

the cat should be inside the star in the SGG icon

[tribal meadow]

but yeah - i'm really glad that - despite everything that's going on - you guys still managed to launch such an awesome game
i've been following you since early bastion days and - well - here's to another 10 awesome years 🍻

[fresh rain]

^*

[coarse parrot]

How would you guys feel if SGG were acquired by a bigger company?

Hypothetically of course

[tribal meadow]

NNnnoOOOooOOooouu...

[coarse parrot]

what if nothing changed

just more resources

I think the indie aspect really gives the game more charm, but itd also be cool to see what sgg could do with more resources

Not going either way, I just wanna see them be successful

[fresh rain]

just more room to make interesting theme and make it isometric and knowing Amir, he would put PowerCast ™

[tribal meadow]

[clear ether]

If they wanted to work on a project with more resources I'm sure any one of them could jump ship and join a company that gives it to them. I think the creative control they get out of being masters of their own fates/schedules is a big part of the appeal

[tribal meadow]

no more power casts!

[fresh rain]

ngl powercast became a second nature to me

oh oh
|| we get a witcher-like fantasy theme, that would be awesome||

[coarse parrot]

Yeah absolutely

If they stay independent and can keep on making these great experiences, then more power to them

[fresh rain]

but yeah , I'm fine to what they've put out

[coarse parrot]

They crushed it with Hades

for sure one of the biggest indie studios right now

[fresh rain]

|| time to remaster bastion for new gen||

or or, the SGGCollection

"experience the best SGG has ever made" and it would have the 4 games

[coarse parrot]

Maybe in a few years yeah

[fresh rain]

make it out for the switch too

and update bastion on pc so it looks cool (tbh it aged like a wine)

[coarse parrot]

watching through the first noclip episode

man the visuals have come a long way

[tribal meadow]

seriously though

this episode was such a great note to end this thing on
once again - thank you and congratulations to everyone involved
and to danny and his noclip crew too ||maybe he will see this i dunno||

and haku, the cat
we can't forget about the

[coarse parrot]

I'm very happy with the attention the studio has gotten from Hades

[mint laurel]

Being an indie studio isn't a statement about the size of a the studio but about how it treats its people and community. Stay an indie studio forever guys and we will always support you. Just keep making what you love no matter what the trends want .🇬🇷

[weary quarry]

omg, the empty wall of guitars... 😦

just started watching the video...

[coarse parrot]

yeah, do what's best for the studio

[tribal meadow]

exactly
||but pls make a spooky horror game ||

[fresh rain]

||smthing smthing SOMAlike smthing smthing||

[crystal crag]

I mostly lurk around here but after finishing the doc I just wanted to thank everyone from the studio for making such passionate projects and being all around awesome. You're the best!

Now back to lurking

[ancient echo]

Thank you Supergiant Games and Noclip for the documentaries. Loved Hades. Loved Developing Hell.

I'm especially happy for the conversation on the mental health implication during the video - About missing people you're on zoom call with all day. Or what Amir said about his mentor telling him about stories you tell yourself - Game is good needn't mean process is good. Subtle callouts to simple things

[tribal meadow]

yeah
i think all of us can somewhat relate to what was said there, in one way or another

one thing is certain - sticking with SGGs for so long, listening to all the panels and interviews and docs ||including the good ol' building the bastion|| really helped me... mature in my creative ways, so to speak
and taught me some important lessons

[fiery crystal]

Actually, the noclip documentary was the last push towards backing Hades' Early Access.
Heard some friends talking about it before, but when I saw the first four parts of the documentary, I knew I had to buy the game, simply because how wonderful and nice everybody was
I only then learned that these guys already did one of my favourite games (Bastion) - never was a fanboy of any studio until this point.

When I first watched the series, there was some part about how they wanted to make sure not to get into to much crunch and setting their own pace - unfortunately I could find it. But I wondered how it worked out in the end, when you have a (small) Nintendo Direct coming... Really hope they made it work nicely for them.

[tribal meadow]

i think that... this sort of transparency about their work isn't just for show
it's not that it's just a nice little bit of trivia for people interested in their games
it's also a a great source of inspiration

and hey - who knows - maybe there's another generation of talented indie devs out there learning from your words

[dire zenith]

its really nice to see how the studio has developed and grown over the years until this day, and the impact it has left on gaming as a whole at this point, like going the early access, long time development route instead of crunch for example, this is something that kinda really stood out to me in my opinion
its sad to see that nowadays everythings pushing towards churning out as many games as possible in such a short timeframe, which in turn makes me hopeful for studios like sgg who do put in a lot of effort to make sure the team isnt downright suffering during development
this means so much to me, as someone whos unsure of what the future of work in creative professions could be like, so....
thank you, for giving me hope

[tribal meadow]

its really nice to see how the studio has developed and grown over the years
and yet - Greg's room still looks the same

[ebon sundial]

The feels hit hard in that last episode. I've really loved every moment of these docs. You guys are great and it was really nice to see the game get the praise it deserves.

[quasi jackal]

It does give me a bit of hope that maybe the industry will shift away from the widespread worker abuse

[hushed stag]

I think this is up to us, though.

[quasi jackal]

oh i already purposely avoid games that mistreat their devs, don't you worry, but yes, it is up to the consumers to avoid supporting companies that practice crunch

trust me, i really really really don't want to work in a broken and exploitative industry after i graduate

it's nice to see supergiant setting an example for how things could should be

[shadow salmon]

never ever bought into the Cyberpunk-Hype because of this reason ⬆️

[fresh rain]

yes ~~sir ~~ crow

a crunch-free, awesome couple of devs did game that is in the same spot as Sony's exclusives (TLOU2 and GoT), and DOOM Eternal, and also Nintendo

that alone is a feat of its own

[shadow salmon]

makes me happy to think about AAA Studios probably being salty about having to compete against indie devs

[azure prawn]

AAA studios put big budget into games and they are not willing to take a risk. In the same time their games become boring as they create another similar game.

[fresh rain]

||cool reminder that Hades will still get awards for years to come!||

[livid berry]

It shows that if you treat your staff right, expect great results from them

[quasi jackal]

basically:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/764158687304482909/805902686637129728/lessismore.png

[lethal fern]

for me graphics are really low on the totem pole

its
Gameplay
Story
Characters
Length
artstyle
graphics

im separating artstyle and graphics because

a game with a unique artstyle can be better than one thats super realistic

IE: borderlands

[gloomy sequoia]

I'm taking absolutely forever to make it through the last episode of the documentary school really be stealing all my time but it is downright fantastic and I am so damn grateful for it. I recommend it to everyone

[jolly iron]

I struggle to call Supergiant games "worse looking" because they use their awesome 2D art to make up for a somewhat lacking 3D modelling budget

[quasi jackal]

"worse looking" here basically means "not photorealistic AAA mocap"

[jolly iron]

a ton of people bought Persona 5 for $60, twice, despite it being a PS3 game

500k+ bought an upscaled Vita port in P4G

[quasi jackal]

striving for photorealism is a fools errand. games that tried to look "real" from the early 2000's look like garbage nowadays, but Wind Waker? The GBA kirby games? They still look good.

[jolly iron]

though I'm reasonably certain that Atlus probably still crunched on P5 and Royal because Japan really likes crunch outside the gaming industry

[quick bluff]

can i just say:

sgg art book

pyre sheet music

hades sheet music

thanks, have a nice night

[tribal meadow]

and more pats and snacks for haku

[amber wasp]

Just stopping by to say I love the Supergiant Games! Played through all of the games released and can't get enough of them! Love the art styles, stories, and oh man, the music - it's so freaking good! Thank you for your time! 😄

[tribal meadow]

huh
i guess amir wasn't joking at the end of that doc when he said he's gonna work on a patch right away

[odd oyster]

alskdjasd

[fresh rain]

"magically appear"

reminds me of the first doc when the game link didn't work until the end of the trailer

[rain trellis]

wow i just watched the noclip and man, yall are amazing. i played bastion when i was a kid and fell in love(i cant tell you how many times i replayed it). Once transistor came out i wanted to play it so badly but wasnt able to until it went for free on the epic store(i feel like i should still pay like 60$ for it tho) and wow, that was just beautiful. And playing hades, being with it from early access to where it is now, it feels great. yall are such an amazing company that makes games that are nothing less than masterpieces(i think we can all agree that last of us shouldnt have won goty, hades more than deserved it). I still need to get pyre but im sure i will love it to bits and replay it hundreds of times. So yea, you all are an amazing company and i think i speak for everyone when i say we love you guys and will support you guys all the way with whatever you do next!

[sour echo]

I just found my quote of the day for english class.
"we always want one of our games when it comes out to have the potential to be someone's favorite game" -Amir Rao

[coarse parrot]

Finished the noclip doc today, fantastic content

very excited to see what sgg's next chapter will be

This game genuinely seems like it was made by so many more people, so seeing such a small crew make something so impactful was amazing to see

[vivid lava]

Hi everyone at Supergiant, I've been playing your games since Bastion and haven't interacted at all, I absolutely love all 4 of your games (although when I was younger I didn't get all of transistors story replayed it recently and saw it in a whole new amazing light) and just wanted to say thank you to all of you. I especially love all of Darren and Ashley's music and Logans voices. You have created 4 of my favourite games of all time and a lot of my favourite music. Thank you all. I'll definitely be playing your next game.

[fresh rain]

TrueGaming , an Arabic gaming reviewer website, today they held their Annual awards
and whaddya know,** Hades gets the independent game award of 2020**

and sgg twitter responded to that

https://twitter.com/SupergiantGames/status/1357027720572534784?s=20

Supergiant Games (@SupergiantGames)

@TrueGaming Thank you very much!! We really appreciate you thinking of Hades for this!

Likes

108

Twitter · Feb 3, 2021, 6:06 PM

[slender grove]

This is a weird question but here goes: In Bastion, there's this instrument, effect, or some special tech on a particular instrument that sounds like an upward glissando on... like a cello string? It happens during combat transitions, and it has the effect of increasing tension. The exact same sound is featured in the musical Hamilton during the 10 Duel Commandments, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7iHmuco_zo which makes me think it's a stock effect in a DAW, but I could be wrong. What doth this sound?

sound starts at around 9 seconds in this video

[raven citrus]

Oh man, I just found out that vinyl soundtrack for Hades is sold out. Vinyls look sooo cool. Pity I can't get it 😞

[slender grove]

Vinyl records typically don't appreciate in value too too much, there's a good chance you'll be able to get a secondhand copy for a similar price

[raven citrus]

Well, I live in Russia where secondhand market is, let's say, not as well-populated as in some other countries

I'd argue that most people who buy it here won't want to sell it anytime soon

[slender grove]

Yep sounds pretty rough, I don't know much about foreign shipping. I just use discogs.com, and I'm in the privileged shipping region of the US so I can't speak to how good discogs is internationally.

[weary quarry]

Keep an eye on this site, if there's a restock it'd be easier (cheaper) to order here, as they're based in Europe https://blackscreenrecords.com/search?q=supergiant+games

[raven citrus]

Cool, thanks for the advice, will do!

[cold badger]

I know I’m late, but I finished no clip and it was amazing. Thank you no clip for recording and Sgg for everything. Love how you guys work hard creating imaginative games and are humble.

[gloomy zephyr]

Just finished watching the noclip documentry series. What an awesome team and an awesome story!

[ivory blaze]

Hi I’ve beaten Hades(sorta) and I wanted to say thank you for such an amazing game, it’s definitely gonna be my most favorite game for a long while unless Hades 2 comes out👀

My only problem is that I felt wrong paying so little for the game on the epic store

But thank you Supergiant games

[simple echo]

sounds like some variant of a siren. I know Hamilton's music is based off of hip-hop, and it feels like ive heard similar sirens before in other hip hop, so you might be able to find it looking through that sort of tech

[quick bluff]

so i don’t normally write these sorts of things...i think about doing so for a while, then i forget about it. but i watched the noclip doc, so here goes! bastion’s the first game that made me cry. transistor’s atmoshpere left me in awe. pyre is my favourite game, probably of all time. and hades has me enjoying a rougelike, which i didn’t think could happen. so all of you at sgg, thank you! for your amazing stories, your music (which i listen to while i’m working), and for being such genuine people!

and i’m new to the discord, but thank you to the community as well, y’all seem so nice and supportive of each other!

alright, back to 90% lurking

[cerulean pier]

So curious question:

What're the computer languages / programs that SGG uses for building their games??
I've had some loose ideas for an old school TB RPG and wanted to know whats used by Quality Devs 😃

[haughty crane]

The gameplay scripting is done in Lua, and the game itself runs on the Forge engine, which uses C/C++ iirc

That being said--depending on your scope, I might suggest looking into https://www.rpgmakerweb.com/ , which is a really handy tool for making relatively simple RPGs.

[cerulean pier]

Oh nice, thanks 😃

[haughty crane]

Sure thing ^.^ Good luck with your game

[coarse parrot]

I think they said for Hades they made it run on C natively

Idk if that helps at all

[cerulean pier]

Which ver of C though??

That was something I was wondering,
cuz I know you can do Lua for interactions,
but I was wondering what the base code for the game was written in,
and if Forge is just an in-house engine

[stoic minnow]

Forge is a third-party rendering... stuff. https://theforge.dev/products/the-forge/
in-house engine yes though.

Amir's quote literally on the front page.

[cerulean pier]

Interesting interesting

Thanks for the notes 😄

[prisma cave]

sgg next game: zagreus. it's a tower defense game and you play as hades

[cerulean pier]

The sequel to that game will just be called Olympus,

where it's a gambling game where you play as the gods and try to predict where Zagreus is in his escape from the underworld.
It also is a relationship dating sim as you have to manage the social links of the other gods in order to create duality powers to aide Zagreus in his escape.
The interesting wrinkle is while all of this is happening, you also have to manage the agrometer of Chaos just showing up during a run randomly and throwing a wrench into all of your plans
Lololol

[pseudo prism]

thats literally just a game of uno

[gloomy sequoia]

Even better: It's uno stack but the stack stability is the stability of olympus

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71X0h-oCwCL._AC_SX425_.jpg

for reference

[tulip cargo]

Update: SGG posters came through! No CS replies but no worries at this point. Hyped to put them up, will post 👍

[tulip cargo]

Posted in #fan-works, didn't realize I can't here

[wild patrol]

do you have a link to a store page, i cannot find it. please give it to me. i need it.

[gloomy sequoia]

Uno stacko? Gimme a sec

https://www.amazon.com.au/Mattel-43535-Uno-Stacko/dp/B0000206FS/ref=asc_df_B0000206FS/?tag=googleshopmob-22&linkCode=df0&hvadid=341772673153&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=12148264819193295907&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9071653&hvtargid=pla-382970560731&psc=1

[mint flicker]

Love hades in the switch. went back to transistor in my backlog and bought pyre because of the noclip docs. And love them. Just need ps5 save issue resolved for transistor.

[haughty crane]

Have you contacted the devs about the save issues?

[gloomy sequoia]

no one:
not a soul:
school: Write a...
Me: Writes analysis on the innovation of supergiant through the game Hades

Also, back to the uno thing. There are way too many uno variants

Uno, Uno Stacko, Uno flip, Uno jackpot, Uno moo, Uno attack, uno choo-choo. And those are only the ones being sold atm

[wild patrol]

Uno blitz is actually fire though

[gloomy sequoia]

hell yeah it is. Flip is my favourite

[primal root]

is there a "meme" channel?

[fresh rain]

if it's SGG related, #fan-works

if it's not, guess #off-topic-discussion , but I don't think proxywordposts are under "memes"

[wild patrol]

terms catch on

[fresh rain]

they do catch on

||I legit don't understand the meaning behind a "giraffe using a saxophone"||

[wild patrol]

🎷 🦒

you aren't supposed to get it but i'ma get personal. it is dear to me.

[fresh rain]

ok 🎷 🦒

[wild patrol]

anyway goodnight

[fresh rain]

'night

[primal root]

thank you so much for your help!

[fallen lantern]

why is the giraffe saxophoninh

[fallen lantern]

lemme try a thing

hell

eyyy

[woeful shard]

haven´t you seen a giraffe using a saxophone before? they´re great players 🎷 🦒

[fallen lantern]

No

[woeful shard]

that´s a shame

[tardy barn]

My package from the SGG store arrive today and I’m so happy. Someone took the time to mark out a caution area so my Ti’zo plushie didn’t get disemboweled. You guys are the best!

[gleaming tapir]

that's awesome bc oof, nothign quite like x-acto slashes on your new merchandise

[tardy barn]

He’s really big and detailed too. The photo on the site does not do him justice.

[cold cove]

^^

he's a lot bigger than the photo makes him out to be

optimal for cuddles

[tulip cargo]

Needs banana for scale

[cold cove]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/344338128305389578/808506251910447104/Snapchat-1014885503.jpg

i will get ti'zo bananas

[haughty crane]

[rain trellis]

god i want pyre

[clever dew]

If you supported the bundle for racial equality last June, you already own Pyre!

[rancid jay]

I didn't know about that when it was happening

I loved Hades so much though I really want to play their other games now

[gloomy sequoia]

There is someone who did hades fanart where zeus has this epic shoulder tattoo of clouds and thunder and I can't find it. If anyone can find it please send it to me (I want the tattoo)

[high mica]

https://www.twitch.tv/courtenberry

Have you guys seen this? :D

[fresh rain]

||aaaaa||

I'm waiting for him to say "FIEND"

[high mica]

His laugh when she mentioned Theseus was priceless xD

If he says FIEND it'll be the best XD

[fresh rain]

clip it for me

[high mica]

Is Honk watching this? :O Gooseeeee

[fresh rain]

ahhh nooo, I got some work

[high mica]

Oh nuuuuu ;u; It's not the same without uuuuu

[fresh rain]

I tuned in rn

dw

[high mica]

Cyrus just said Geese are Ares' spirit animals

I thought you'd be happy to hear that, Honk =v=

[fresh rain]

now that you've mentioned it Saory
allow me to present an early exploration idea for ||Goares||
||https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/604967283877609482/808751319795105852/SPOILER_honk.png||

what do you think ? @high mica
it's very very WIP

[high mica]

OH MY GOSH

I LOVE IT SDJGHSADKJGDKS

[fresh rain]

glad to hear it

[high mica]

Ares shows up and says "Here, my kin, one of my greatest warriors will assist you" and hands you the Goares, what do you do

[clever dew]

|| https://laughingpinecone.tumblr.com/post/188906234937/untitled-goose-game-but-instead-of-debussy-its || back one SGG game and mild Pyre spoilers but

[fresh rain]

pop goes the heart

[fresh rain]

Quieres but instead of quieres he hands you a goose

again , very very very WIP, but If I happen to finish it i'll let you know

[high mica]

Pls doo, I wanna see it =v=

[fresh rain]

I will

[high mica]

:D

[faint moth]

@high mica for future reference posts to your or another person's twitch steam go into #self-promotion

[high mica]

@faint moth Will do! Sorry about that, it won't happen again ^^

[neat delta]

Hi! I'm sure you guys get this question a lot, but...I've played a lot of Hades and started Transistor, greatly enjoying both. Is there a game you'd suggest I start next?

[rain trellis]

ummm i mean if you want a similar game as to hades in combat id say bastion

and pyre if you wanna play basketball

[fresh rain]

Pyre if you love the relationships part

like having bonds ,and etc..

[neat delta]

Both sound fun tbh!

I'll probably start w/ Bastion and move to Pyre since I'm sure I'll be a fan of both :)

[rain trellis]

basketball

but yea pyre has amazing story from what ive heard

and bastion is also very good in that aspect and more of a combat game so ye, all preference

[fresh rain]

bastion is cool with the combat

[azure prawn]

After Hades? Diablo3

[mint pilot]

Could anyone provide a quick summary of the other games for me? That is, Pyre, Transistor andBastion

I’d like to know a bit bout them

[fresh rain]

ok
I'll explain in simple short terms

[mint pilot]

:]

[rain trellis]

bastion essentially the world is destroyed after this calamity and you, the mc(the kid) gotta do things

[fresh rain]

Bastion: kid takes gems to build town
Transistor : Girl has sword
sword makes her stop time and do stuff, chess but better

[rain trellis]

transistor description just lol

sword also talks

and i love the game

[fresh rain]

wait even better , Pyre:
people look stars, move cart, and play basketball to death

[rain trellis]

transistor almost made me cry

[fresh rain]

||me too||

[rain trellis]

i didnt say anything besides i almost cried

and BASKETBALL

hands down best reason to play pyre

[quick bluff]

well, basketball and tears

[fresh rain]

that, and basketball and Darren just crack his knuckles at this game with the amazing OSTs

[rain trellis]

every game be like that tho

and honestly i personally liked transistor the most in terms of soundtrack

like damn ashley can sing

[quick bluff]

pyre's is so diverse, though

[rain trellis]

tears made of basketball

live breathe and die basketball

[fresh rain]

YES, (scrambles as I count how many transistor osts i have in my spotify playlist)

[rain trellis]

i have 21 sgg songs

11 being transistor

like 3 hades

3 pyre

and the rest are bastion

[fresh rain]

Old friends, paperboats, we all become, the spine, gateless, in circles

Never to return, path to glory (accusers theme), vagrant song, in the flame , surviving exile

[quick bluff]

whenever i hear in the flame, i have to stop what i'm doing and just vibe

[fresh rain]

and finally, out of tartarus cuz I found out I needed some Bass in my life

[rain trellis]

i listen to coasting, paper boats, we all become, the spine, in circles, zias theme, zulfs theme, in the blood, lament of orpheus, in the flame, bastion end theme, she shines, never to return

and like all of the songs of supergiant versions

[fresh rain]

oh and let's not forget, Setting sail, coming home

[rain trellis]

cuz those just go hard

i just have a nostalgia trip when i listen to remember the bastion

[fresh rain]

build that wall

[mint pilot]

I don’t know much about basketball, but I do like character focused stuff

[rain trellis]

basketball focused character stuff

lol no but imagine

[quick bluff]

if you're a fan of the found family, pyre's great

[rain trellis]

like someone has a mental breakdown over basketball

[rain trellis]

bruh any of sgg games are good for that

[mint pilot]

Sounds... interesting

[quick bluff]

eh, i always found transistor a bit lonely

[azure prawn]

Paper Boats ... oh man, its top10 in 2020 on my playlist

[quick bluff]

just red and her sword against the world

[rain trellis]

||that ending tho ;w;||

[quick bluff]

||i remember just being in shock lol||

[rain trellis]

||like i was too but after the initial hit i almost cried||

like damn ||she rather leave the world in shambles and be with her husband then fix things and just have his voice||

just 😭

[azure prawn]

https://i.redd.it/gfgin5uemzp51.jpg

[rain trellis]

hehe lol yea

[azure prawn]

My fav Greg Quote heh

[quick bluff]

me with every sgg game

[rain trellis]

yeaaaa

bastion also hit hard wth that ending

has to play it 4 times to get all options

i just love sgg

[quick bluff]

that's bold of you, i could never ||leave zulf behind||

[cobalt gust]

i mean
||there's nothing left to fix||

[hazy arch]

hi everyone im new to this channel and the games Hades, is God Mode necessary?

[haughty crane]

Nope ^.^

it makes the game a bit easier is all (reduces the damage you take, scaling every time you die)

[hazy arch]

aw thats no fun lol

gotta bring on the challenge!

[rain trellis]

yea, play hell mode

thats epic

[pseudo prism]

god mode is only "easier" in the early game, once you add difficulty modifiers the game can still be quite difficult

[faint tusk]

yeah! and a reasonable difficulty for one person might be inaccessible to another for a variety of reasons, so it makes it possible for more people to play hades

[severe badger]

so Hades now has more gotys than Journey, making it the most awarded indie game ever

that's nuts

[rain trellis]

epic

[gleaming tapir]

wow, awesome

[cold cove]

sick

[mint pilot]

Wow that’s rad

[untold cove]

Deserved for SGG

[cold cove]

my SGG 10th anniversary and transistor poster arrived today!! i ordered them on Christmas

THEYRE SO BIG THO

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/324338983263928320/809563785718661130/Snapchat-36020331.jpg

[wild patrol]

that's actually pretty cool

they still avaliable?

[cold cove]

I believe so!!

[wild patrol]

yes

[cold cove]

i'll take more photos once i actually get them hung up

[pseudo prism]

congrats hades for being on the rpg button in the lunar sale 😄 https://gyazo.com/69d1be8900a6223b5e4e4d70d8b6e559

[wild patrol]

just saying that you can buy Pyre, Transistor, and Bastion for 15 bucks.

[cold cove]

^^^^

[wild patrol]

^^^^^

[wild patrol]

I now own every single Supergiant game. I now will know all the hype.

Which do I play first?

[gleaming tapir]

I reccommend playing them in release order tbh

Bastion, Transisotr, Pyre, then Hades

[wild patrol]

I've already played Hades, but i see your pattern.

[gleaming tapir]

you see a lot of the organic evolution of their gameplay and storytelling by playing at least the frist two in that order

I played Transistor then Bastion and it felt like a weird downgrade bc a lot of the mechanics of Bastion are super streamlined into Transitor. Everything seems to share some common DNA/bones though, esp their combat systems

[wild patrol]

aight, thanks for the input

i'ma ask around a bit more

[gleaming tapir]

that's just me. Imo I did myself a disservice by playing them out of order, though I'm not sure I would have fallen as hard for Transistor if I hadn't played it first...?

[haughty crane]

I did the Hades -> Bastion -> Transistor -> Pyre route, worked well

[wild patrol]

Well, that seems like it will be mine aswell.

i vaguely remember playing the demo on the 360 back in like 2012

i'm excited to say the least

one last question

are all the games better with controller?

[haughty crane]

I played all of them with M&K ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[wild patrol]

i'm so sorry

who hurt you?

[quick bluff]

i'll do you one better: i played them all with keyboard and trackpad

[wild patrol]

this

[wild patrol]

and this

[quick bluff]

it's all part of my plan

to convince people that i'm a Next Level Gamer (TM) when actually i'm just bad at games

[jolly aurora]

I still wish God Mode was adjustable downwards

But eh

Minor quibble

[pseudo prism]

supergiant recommends using hard labor to counteract god mode https://twitter.com/SupergiantGames/status/1314686069544165377

Supergiant Games (@SupergiantGames)

@joegearhart @MattSolo734 Thank you for the feedback. In the absence of this feature, if you haven't already, please consider setting the Hard Labor condition of the Pact to counteract God Mode's benefit. It's not exactly what you're asking for though hopefully will help.

Twitter · Oct 9, 2020, 9:55 PM

[half root]

Every supergiant game so cheap rn but i just wasted my money on another game that was on sale like 2 weeks ago

Couldve used that same price to buy bastion transistor pyre

[wild patrol]

Sucks to suck. i got them all for 14 bucks.

subtle flex.

[half root]

Yeah would've been nice to get the whole collection

[rancid relic]

I played transistor and bastion on mobile

[high mica]

I have no idea what Bastion nor Transistor are about but I just had to support this awesome company so I bought them yesterday

I'm pretty sure I'll enjoy them though, they both look amazing

[fresh rain]

Welcome welcome
role yourself so you can greenbluebrown

[high mica]

So I can what? :o

[pseudo prism]

@wraith python supergiant-related convo is more suited here, but to reply to you: bastion and transistor got physical releases years after they released so just because they got one doesn't mean hades might get one any time soon. either way it's up to supergiant.

[fresh rain]

well, you can tell us which games have you played, and if got the pyre one too you can become gold like some of us

[high mica]

Ohhh that's cool :OO Thanks Honk!!

[wraith python]

Also a good point, I knew Bastion was years later but didn't realise Transistor was too! I have no willpower so I'll likely own it soon

[pseudo prism]

transistor was released in 2014 and the limited run physical release was 2019 :)

so hades may get a physical at some point but for all we know it could take a while

[fresh rain]

for the 5 years 🎂 , right?

[pseudo prism]

dunno

they never mentioned it on the blog post https://www.supergiantgames.com/blog/transistor-new-boxed-collectors-edition/

the bastion physical release was 2018

so transistor being the year after may have been coincidental to the 5 years since release more than anything

skimming through twitter supergiant was saying for a long while "no current plans for physical" with bastion/transistor before they actually happened so that sentiment on hades is par for the course

[shadow salmon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ac5ksZTvZN8

Overly Sarcastic Productions references Supergiant Games near the end of the video 🙂

[rain trellis]

osp is how i first learned about zagreus just existing as a mythos figure

[shadow salmon]

I love their videos, they're so good

[rain trellis]

i love the dionysus video

like he be a god of madness and death too

much cooler than wine

but wine is also cool

[loud shale]

Did not know Supergiant Games had a discord, but absolutely loved Bastion and Transistor.

[fresh rain]

get yourself some nice game roles from #bot-commands

[loud shale]

Thanks Johnduck, just followed your advice!

[fresh rain]

you're welcome

call me honk() too (or my real username, it's alright)

[haughty crane]

okay honk() too

[fresh rain]

the too is an upgrade

putting a honk() on honk()

[half root]

I want bastion, transistor, pyre so bad 😭 theyre super cheap rn

[whole epoch]

waaaaiiit this might be my time to get pyre and complete the collection

[half root]

[fresh rain]

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-star-wars-gif-4928619

[half root]

buy me one

[mint pilot]

I’m probs gonna buy them

Hope I like hem, some might be a bit diff from what I normally play but they’re all high rated and such

[wild patrol]

due to repeated patterns we should have the next supergiant game out in early 2023. Bastion came out in 2011, Transistor came out in 2014, Pyre came out in 2017 and Hades came out in late 2020. Due to this consistent pattern, I believe the wait for the next Supergiant game will be shorter than expected, UNLESS! Supergiant puts even more of their all into the next so it takes longer, BUT it's better in almost every way. Of course, no pressure, just noticed this weird little quirk/pattern.

[haughty crane]

uh

👀

[wild patrol]

hey, i didn't say it

[haughty crane]

lol

[astral hull]

lol

[wild patrol]

lol

[fresh rain]

lol

[gloomy sequoia]

My favorite thing about having played transistor before hades is the fact that Voidstones annoy me as much as spotlights did

[cold dock]

who else is praying for hades dlc

[wild patrol]

there won't be

[spare citrus]

I'm not much for praying but I won't complain either.

[wild patrol]

there won't be

[cobalt gust]

I kinda hope there isn't, as great as Hades is I'd much prefer a new game

[wild patrol]

that's exactly what will happen

[spare citrus]

I'll be satisfied either way.

[rancid relic]

Hades is actually a pyre expansion

You can tell because both are very good

I would be happy if the made a new game, or:
Bastagain
Transis-two-r
Pyre-er
Hades (2021)

[fresh rain]

SSGDevs tend to leave the past game as is then go onto the next project
which creates this dilemma of "I want a sequel of that universe and characters and gameplay" and "fresh ideas is the best"

[rancid relic]

I think it definitely helps that all of their stories are pretty self contained

Which I very much appreciate

[rancid jay]

I would be hyped to explore the world more but it’ll be cool to see whatever they do next

[wild patrol]

I think that sgg hides hints to what their next game will be.

so hades, bastion, transistor, and pyre all have characters.

you see the pattern.

therefore their next game will have characters

Not to mention that all of the above games have a story.

therefore their next game will have a story.

[fresh rain]

no ,that's a coincidence!
dont tell me they'll have settings menu

[wild patrol]

wait, you're right!

[fresh rain]

huh?

[wild patrol]

they all have a settings menu.

[fresh rain]

don't tell me they also have isometric camera

impossible

[wild patrol]

||i actually wonder if they're ever gonna get rid of the isometric thing, i thought once when i was looking at all the games that they seem like they have the same gameplay because you attack things and they all have the same camera (i'm wrong btw) i thought maybe they'll make a 2d platformer or a 3rd person shooter.||

[gleaming tapir]

still have my fingers crossed for some kind of horror game, I'd love to see SG's take on somehting surreal in the vein of Silent Hill or maybe Little Nightmares 🤞

[fresh rain]

soma

[gleaming tapir]

horror sequel to Transistor O,o

[quick bluff]

horror's very much a genre i avoid, but i don't really like rougelites either, so...
if anyone can get me to play a horror, it's sgg

[fresh rain]

sable just gave me an idea on an image that'll describe transistor's horror sequel

[ionic violet]

How... Would a Transistor sequel work

Prequel, definitely, but...

[cobalt gust]

and honestly a prequel is nowhere near as enticing

I'd love to see more of the world but uh

[ionic violet]

Can't really disagree with that but I can imagine one and not the other which is why I'm asking

[ionic violet]

see you in the country

[neon kayak]

Man I wish there was some hades merch, pops or something

Grabbed hades on switch because of its GOTY nomination and it became my favorite game of the year

[haughty crane]

There is some merch on their website

[rancid relic]

||recursion or something related maybe||

[primal root]

P A I N . . .

[primal root]

https://www.supergiantgames.com/blog/now-available-transistor-collectible-figure/

[gloomy sequoia]

supergiant hsc essay, supergiant hsc essay

How do I keep getting away with putting supergiant into hsc essays? Because yes

[wild patrol]

hsc sounds like the onomatopoeia to that vine with the fake rat

[gloomy sequoia]

haha it does

But no, higher school certificate

[wild patrol]

that makes more sense

[gloomy sequoia]

y e a h

School really said "sure, just try not to simp over Thanatos too hard in that essay"

while in reality it's just Red

[faint moth]

HSC

I wish you the best of luck Zeph

[minor spear]

Isnt this out of stock 😔

[primal root]

Is it?! I had no idea, I'm sorry 🙁

[wild patrol]

it's not even on the stroe

there's only a blog post

well not anymore at least

[minor spear]

I wasnt sure myself but you gave me hope for a bit 😔

[gloomy sequoia]

Thank u thank u! It's going to be a crazy year

[primal root]

I'm really sorry; I had no idea SGG merch even sold out...

[minor spear]

Hahah don't worry about it at all, if anything you let me gaze upon that great collectible figure again even if i cant have it

[primal root]

Mine's still unboxed; I intend to bring her with me when I can afford to move out, ehehe.

*Boxed

[minor spear]

wait you got one? 😱

all i can say is

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/688662242190688276/811228652457033728/121.png

[primal root]

I have no idea! I purchased mine back in 2020?

Would you like to see a photo?

[minor spear]

Sure

[primal root]

wait how did you post a photo

this channel has no images allowed o:

[minor spear]

You have to post somewhere else and copy paste the link of the picture 😆

[haughty crane]

@rain trellis @ionic violet
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1145360/discussions/0/1744518767210721726/

Some interesting connections!

[rain trellis]

nice

[fresh rain]

"see the respawn mechanic of the enemies in transistor be near the same as the fighters in Elysium down to the eyeball design"
the moment I saw it I was like "you aren't going to pull that stuff again, are you?"

Are you?

[azure prawn]

So you also know that there are Heat that makes them also split to 4? Where only one is real ?

[haughty crane]

And the rest explode!

[ionic violet]

Nice thank you! I noticed some of these but not all really

The fighters/cells is SO obvious though damn

[azure prawn]

Dialogue system created for Pyre is used in Hades
"Boons" system created for Transistor (advanced skills tree and upgrades) was used in Hades.
Fighting system created for Bastion was used in Hades too.
All of these systems ware reused and upgraded for Hades

For Dialogue system I mean system that allow NPCs to know what you did, track your progress and remember previous chats, as well as advanced chat trees.

Skills tree used in Transistor had a lot upgrades, the code is very the same in Hades, in code upgrades call base abilities and change them with selected values. Like range, speed, etc. and of course animations etc

If someone played beta/alpha then must know that at the start Hades was much ... slower, all due the fact that you could not attack with few abilites at the same time

[ionic violet]

This is only semi-related but I think about it every time both games are brought up and compared https://japhers.tumblr.com/post/638810686372397056/aspect-of

[azure prawn]

sometimes during development the combat system got "buffering", that means that when you used another ability when one is already used its buffered and casted right after first end.

[haughty crane]

Yes!!! Love that art

[azure prawn]

That added so much more flow and "speeded" up the combat

[ionic violet]

When it's worded like this it does sound like an invisible Turn tbh

[rain trellis]

omg i love this

[azure prawn]

Yes! , the abilities you use are queued. That's great thought

[rain trellis]

i wanna hear darren sing we all become in his zag voice

[azure prawn]

Tho, in hades they have little timeout, so you can not smash buttons and then have to wait 5s till all these action will be performed heh

[gleaming tapir]

?

[haughty crane]

( responded to in #off-topic-discussion )

[gleaming tapir]

ah

[silk fox]

ooo this is so cool...

[young bane]

IDK if this is the place to ask, but where would I go if I had an issue with an order from their merchandise store. I emailed info@supergiant almost a month ago with no response

[pseudo prism]

apologies, the team has been working through email backlog! you'll need to talk with @atomic flicker

[young bane]

No worries, just wasn't sure if I was in a long queue or sent to the spam filter

[atomic flicker]

Hey Lyone! Long queue, but please feel free to DM me the email you used to contact us and I'll look into it right away.

[neon kayak]

!!!!

[cobalt gust]

damn you supergiant I can't buy hades a third time 😭

[minor girder]

Congrats on physical switch release!

[weary quarry]

Wait, really, Hades gets a physical releasee?

[neon kayak]

In March.

Was announced in today's Nintendo Direct.

[minor girder]

Was just on the Nintendo direct earlier \0/

[weary quarry]

!! That's awesome!

[stable cypress]

Any news on whether or not it will be available in Canada?

[raven hill]

idk, but now we wait for preorders

[novel owl]

Europe?

[minor girder]

It’s super, epic really - might have to go let off some steam - I mean, now you can switch between not just game consoles, but physical or digital on one of them

[whole epoch]

yes i shall be buying hades for a third time

[novel owl]

i'll buy hades for as many times as i need to

[weary quarry]

Yup, same here. Just hope there will be Europe release as well...

[minor girder]

If not there’s always online

[whole epoch]

oh yeah that's a point didn't think of that

I really hope so

[minor girder]

💸

[wraith python]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-baby-goal-funny-face-gif-13347383

[viscid garnet]

💸

[scenic vigil]

Was the artbook in the trailer in French ? Might need to watch it again x)

[pseudo prism]

https://gyazo.com/c267770302a82ea11e1eb952a324790d

[rain trellis]

I WANT THE ART BOOK

AND I WANNA SEE WHAT THE INVERT COVER FOR THE CASE IS GONNA BE

HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[scenic vigil]

Yup, French

[weary quarry]

HYPE

[wraith python]

I was so close to buying this in the lunar sale, glad I held off

[pseudo prism]

just gotta wait another month 👍

[wraith python]

yep ☺️

[wheat hull]

welp. That's an auto buy.

[unkempt nest]

Shoutouts to that physical release.

I'd love to buy it frame one it but lol having money

[manic herald]

If you buy Hades three times you get to pay the full $60 that the game is actually worth

[rain trellis]

TRUUUUUUUUUE

[azure oxide]

I know that Hades released not long ago, but I already can’t wait to see what Supergiant comes up with next. As much as I love Greek mythology, I hope it’s set in an original world of their own creation. I’m excited to see if and how they’ll expand on the relationship mechanics from Hades

[clever dew]

Same same same!! Fingers crossed for a new, unique world from them!

[gloomy sequoia]

if they keep making the characters this seggsy i might just have to retire from games

[fresh rain]

post that over to #fan-works

[gloomy sequoia]

oh yeah! Sorry

[fresh rain]

https://twitter.com/darrenkorb/status/1362551766403878912?s=21

Darren Korb (@DarrenKorb)

Thrilled and honored to share these awards with @garethcoker and @field_of_reeds !!! https://t.co/waeMFKo1NF

Likes

168

Twitter · Feb 18, 2021, 11:57 PM

Darren got two awards from the VGMOnline

[rain trellis]

nice!

[neon kayak]

Already bought hades on switch but I can NOT wait to get the physical version! Art book looks sick

[rain trellis]

yep, itll be the 3rd time im getting it once the physical comes out

[neon kayak]

Game is worth so much more than the 15 I paid on switch for it (I had eshop coins to discount) so I don’t mind buying it again as a collector, supergiant deserves it

[rain trellis]

yea, i bought it at 20 for early access and 25 for my stepbrother and me

and im gonna get the physical for personal use

so like, im paying the 60$ it deserves

[harsh ibex]

damned steam, it doesnt give me the Thorn of Thanatos achievement to 100%

[haughty crane]

if you're having issues getting achievements, you could ask in #h1-tech-support and I might be able to help

[queen otter]

Hi people, i'm having problems with supergiant store and the contact email is not answering me, do anybody know another way for me to contact the store? ( the email i'm trying to contact without success is [e-mail] )

[haughty crane]

Heyo! The devs are still working through a bit of an email backlog, sorry. How long has it been since you emailed them?

[queen otter]

since february first
=/

[haughty crane]

@atomic flicker When you get the chance, could you look into this?

[atomic flicker]

Hey Biu! Give me a DM when you can with your email you used to message us, I can take a look at it today.

[queen otter]

OK!

[worldly coral]

Anyone have a clue on when the preordered 10th anniversary vinyls will ship?

[haughty crane]

I'd email SGG or use their contact page, though please be patient as they're still working through a bit of a backlog

[opaque pawn]

Thank you Super Giant Games, just pre order my physical switch copy ❤️ I need that compendium! ❤️ I am having ton of fun playing this game

[worldly coral]

Of course! I notice it saying Q1, I was just curious if they'd announced any further details.

[haughty crane]

Ah, I see. Not that I'm aware of, but I haven't been following it closely

[worldly coral]

I'll keep my eyes peeled. 👀

[tardy barn]

Listening to “Songs of Supergiant”; “Paper Boats” came on. If someone with video editing skills makes an AMV with the Hades characters, you will be my new best friend.

[calm vault]

Need this game to come to ps4 to get a plat for t

[boreal yarrow]

any other super giant games recommendations?

[fresh rain]

what did you like about hades?

[rain trellis]

all of em

[wild patrol]

bastion is like hades

transistor is if you have big brain

[fresh rain]

bastion has the same gameplay in terms of weaponary and dodging enemies
pyre has the characters
and transistor has the combinations

[wild patrol]

and pyre is fancy basketball

[fresh rain]

fancy

true

[rain trellis]

only this time the characters future is hinging on the 3 pointer

[fresh rain]

and the caster is Logan cunningham but he says rrrrrr instead of r

[tardy barn]

My favorite thing about “Hades” was...
A: The combat (Bastion)
B: Optimizing builds (Transistor)
C: The characters and relationships (Pyre)
D: MUSIC!!!! (All of the above)

[fresh rain]

you let darren touch a game it'll become a banger

[clever dew]

Yes but consider: Pyre has weekly multiplayer and currently a tournament. Can the others claim that much? Didn't think so

[fresh rain]

nope

[hearty anchor]

unsure about pyre

i saw it described as fantasy basketball, not sure I'll like it

[wild patrol]

it's more like fancy soccer

[fresh rain]

trust me it's cool

[hearty anchor]

mm i'll mull it over

[wild patrol]

wait

it's more like lacrosse

but fancy

[hearty anchor]

fantasy that-game-the-aztecs-played-with-really-high-stone-hoops

[wild patrol]

it's nothing like quidditch

[clever dew]

I think it's worth noting that the gameplay is fantasy sportsball, but it doesn't have the... attitude of a sports game

It's an extremely solemn game about societal cycles, freedom and bonds

[minor spear]

Plus you can attack the other players in it

[ionic violet]

it is good fantasy basketball!

[clever dew]

Ritual fantasy basketball for personal and societal enlightenment! as you do

[past tinsel]

ey im planning to get another supergiant game after i get tired of hades, which one is the high fantasy one

theres a high fantasy one right

[clever dew]

Pyre

[past tinsel]

lit

thanks

2d games are awesome, hades will never look bad no matter how much time passes and from what ive seen from the other games theyll hold up too

3d games get so much money poured into them but they dont hold up with the passage of time

[clever dew]

No polygon count is high enough to accidentally reach an art direction...

[past tinsel]

how bout u spend some of that budget letting ur employees take breaks

[fresh rain]

Transistor is agreeing to that

[minor spear]

supergiant games is the best because they care about everyone involved and their staff

[fresh rain]

indeed, the feedback from the community shapes their games

[tardy barn]

Take care of people and listen to your customers and they make good stuff? WHO KNEW!

glares at Blizzard

[vapid sonnet]

how do I personally thank the devs for their amazing work? this isn't a joke i actually want to make sure they know how much i appreciate their writing and art and design and practices

[rain trellis]

i really do too tbh where could we :3

since i wrote out like a paragraph a month ago but idk if they saw it

[wild patrol]

@ them

i dare you

all their @ 's are in #readme-first

they shouldn't be annoye

d

[rain trellis]

i dont like the sounds of that tho

and i think greg saw the one i did a while back i just wanna make sure the rest of the team saw it

[wild patrol]

yeah, i wouldn't @ them either

i don't want them to be annoyed

[haughty crane]

https://www.supergiantgames.com/contact/

You can message them through their contact page!

They tend not to mind being pinged here, since people don't do it very frequently, but the contact page is a bit better imo

[rain anchor]

@vapid sonnet we see comments like this in our Discord -- thanks for the kind words

[fresh rain]

Hi Amir

[wild patrol]

I've never seen Amir before on discord.

[fresh rain]

welp, now he’s here. Is he?

imagine just getting a response to that

[wild patrol]

he has better things to do like make the next sgg game, hopefully, maybe???

;)

[fresh rain]

Yep ;)

[wild patrol]

"Anyways, there is no time for idle-chitchat."

[fresh rain]

“Fight me”

[vapid sonnet]

as an aspiring game designer, you guys are an inspiration to me. as a player, you're the reason the past 5 months of quarantine have been bearable.

[wild patrol]

you post your games so far to itch or steam?

[vapid sonnet]

i have a short twine game on my itch and then an itch for a demo i acted as creative lead on for my uni's game dev club. always been more on the narrative side of things.

[rain trellis]

thats cool! ive been messing around with this concept for like 3 years and ive only now started doing the concept art :3

and im taking a game dev class and im in my sophomore year so supergiant is such a good company to look at for design philosophies and writing

[haughty crane]

I'm going to a game dev school, and the profs regularly mention various SG stuff during classes

[minor spear]

Im just gonna say i love everyone at supergiant games and I regularly shill them to my friends til theyre sick of it

Just in case one of them pops in here again so they can read this 😏

[wild patrol]

wanna link it in #self-promotion if you're comfortable, i need more games to play and i'd like to play them.

[soft basalt]

I wonder, what genre next game will be

[fresh rain]

isometric rpg

[soft basalt]

Heh, I'd want something that is party-based with turn-based battle system (cross between Transistor and Pyre in a way?), but that's just my inner jRPG fan talking 😄

[charred tide]

I would love an open world game like botw

[clever dew]

Same inner JRPG fan hopes....

[minor spear]

id be down for a horror game

[wild patrol]

I want supergiant to experiment every now and again. we know they can make 4 great isometric rpgs. what if we had a first person shooter horror game?

[clever dew]

I'd be curious to be proven wrong but both their trademark aural and visual styles seem like an odd fit for a horror game, I'll say. Again, curious to see whatever.

[wild patrol]

horror games also don't do well with complex music which is darren's job. if he doesn't have a job for a whole game cycle that would be not epic.

[azure prawn]

Metroidvania is like best what they can choose, i will keep repeating it heh

[gleaming tapir]

"Horror" doesn't always need to be minimal or subtle, though. Arguably both DOOM and Hollow Knight have horror elements, but rely on very different presentation. I'd be down with a stab at a surreal/daylight horror affair from SG

[minor spear]

That's weird because i find a lot horror games have some of the best video game music ever 😆

i dont see why they cant be complex

[fresh rain]

I,too want to be spooked by darren

[minor spear]

also horror doesn't necessarily mean a five nights at freddy's or Outlast kind of game

little nightmares and Limbo were of the horror genre right

[fresh rain]

inside

[minor spear]

that too

[clever dew]

Hm, I wouldn't count Hollow Knight, Limbo or Inside as horror games, although they certainly have horror elements in their visuals (can't speak for the other ones I'm not familiar with). Of course genre definition can be very personal - I wouldn't count as a RPG half the things are billed as such either, so, whatever.

[soft basalt]

A very large part of it is their own engine that they were improving for last ten years. I doubt they will drop it any time soon, so isometric perspective is most likely here to stay

Some sort of metroidvania actually could work. I haven't seen one done in isometric perspective yet, could be interesting

And horror games just clash with their usual style way too much in all directions

[rain trellis]

i mean im curious what they could do tho since they land atmosphere so well in every game

and good horror is good atmosphere

[pseudo prism]

could be subtle horror, look at metroid fusion. supergiant metroidvania with fusion-esque unsettling elements lmao

[soft basalt]

Also I'd say that horror games would limit their audience way too much. A lot of people, myself included, just can't play horror games at all

[rain trellis]

true

[soft basalt]

Not limiting as "I don't like this type of games so I won't play it", as other games can be for other people, but limiting as "I already have anxiety and insomnia, I don't need any more of it, make it stop make it stop make it stop"

[rain trellis]

and i mean tbh transistor was a tad unsettling when you actually think about things and look into the lore

[quick bluff]

true, but transistor's a far cry from horror

[soft basalt]

Bastion is literally postapocalypsis, so it is unsettling as well, but nobody would call it horror

[pseudo prism]

I think people associate the concept of "horror" too much with the blatantly obvious, such as monsters, gore, and the like. things that are psychological can be horror too, without falling into the standard horror tropes. I don't really see supergiant going to either route in the first place but I think there is too specific of an idea of what is horror and what isnt

[fresh rain]

nodoom3

[quick bluff]

after watching playthroughs of inside and limbo, i'm of the opinion that they're both horror. it's not really about the jumpscares, it's about the atmosphere. and the atmosphere is....uncomfortable

[fresh rain]

yes, that's the subgenre of horror I would love to see the sgg spin on it

not the subgenre of "and now, you must be scared. BOO"

[quick bluff]

i'll admit that even portal's atmosphere made me uncomfortable enough to turn the volume off while playing, and portal's not even a horror game. so i'm not sure i'd be into even a ssg horror lol

[fresh rain]

hey, if it has PowerCast, i'm instantly sold

[lusty girder]

What if there was a remake of Bastion?

[fresh rain]

hey, not bad tbh, they can just reuse the assets and clean them, release them for nextgen and send in an update to the PC version

experience what started everything for sgg

[faint moth]

I honestly think sgg could pull off psychological horror quite well

[neon kayak]

Aggy in collusion with Caitlin.

[faint moth]

Especially with how well they pull off theme and atmosphere

[faint moth]

Me, not at all 😇

[pliant totem]

I mean if you are a good action writer doesnt mean you can write a good horror

[neon kayak]

Hey guys, so uhhh are Supergiant Games' Games coded in C#?

and use Lua? Any info would help 🙂

[haughty crane]

The gameplay scripting is in Lua. I don't recall for the engine, though I want to say it's either C or C++

[neon kayak]

Sweet! Thank you

[haughty crane]

Sure thing ^.^

[weary quarry]

Hi everyone, there's a new interview with Darren:
https://echoesanddust.com/2021/02/a-conversation-with-hades-composer-and-audio-director-darren-korb/?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=postfity&utm_content=postfity21326

[tame slate]

im the james charles guy now

[silk fox]

oo thank you for sharing!

[fresh rain]

if @stuck rivet could see you rn 😔

[tardy barn]

Interviewers: “So you do... all the audio things?”
Darren: “oh, for sure. All the things. I’m secretly a set of quints who share a love of audio and mutton chops. That’s why the dialogue between Skelly and Zag is so good!”

[chrome prawn]

Bought all the games to treat myself, I guess the best playing order is release order?

Ie Bastion Transistor Pyre

[haughty crane]

That's what I did, and I enjoyed it like that

It was cool seeing how certain aspects developed, while others kept the same core but with a smoother design

[fresh rain]

and sometimes can help you understand certain mechanics, like powercast how upgrades and difficulty increasers work (like Heat in Hades, but they're there for the people who wants a challenge)

[clever dew]

Definitely release order if you're planning to get through them all!

[chrome prawn]

I am!

I've been through Hades already

[clever dew]

Oh yeah I mean, through the ones you've bought now 🙂 if someone wants to make a selection there are options to consider, but if one wants to go through their (remaining) SGG catalogue, release order best order!

[fresh rain]

Agreed

[clever dew]

I have thoughts about the progression of these three games' endings specifically - that's a spoilery talk for another day obviously, but I really think it's neat

[mint pilot]

I’m presuming this guy is from one of these games

Who is he??

[wild patrol]

ron.

pretty sure it's pyre. you usually put it at the end of a sarcastic or just straight up stupid sentence around here.

[haughty crane]

yup, it's Pyre

[wild patrol]

i just looked at the official art and it looked like rons face was photoshopped onto mr. mcguffin from gravity falls

it looks like a proxywordpost

[ionic violet]

ah yes ron the best merchant in the WORLD

[fresh rain]

he sells you the good proxyword

[ionic violet]

And even at a 5% discount!

[mint pilot]

Hmmm

Well thanks for telling me who he is!

[lusty girder]

I have a free idea for Supergiant Games

Feel free to use it if you want, no need to credit me or anything

Basically, a high fantasy RPG with dashes of sci-fi sprinkled in

Like, people fight with swords and shields, but occasionally there's robots or higher technology

[quick bluff]

like a reverse shadowrun? that would be cool

[rain trellis]

me over here thinking of transistor but being more fantasy

[lusty girder]

Basically imagine Lord of the Rings

Or Wheel of Time

Any high fantasy

And then insert a dash of sci-fi elements

[quick bluff]

shadowrun’s a cyberpunk with a dash of fantasy elements. honestly, either way would be amazing to see

[fresh rain]

Hades is being nominated in the BAFTA awards for Narrative, Artistic Achievement, Best game, Game design, Music , Original Property, EE game of the year
Oh and Logan is nominated for his supportive role too

[weary quarry]

And you can vote here for EE game of the year: https://ee.co.uk/why-ee/baftagames/goty-2021-nominees

[pseudo prism]

might need an edit on that schpoon

oh no there wasnt anything wrong with it lmao your names got wonky

[neon kayak]

Highkey befuddled that Darren's not being nominated for any awards. He only voices two characters to Logan's 4.5 (Charon's kinda...), but Logan keeps getting nom'd specifically for Hades (as he should) while I think Zag absolutely should be getting more props.

||you saw nothing||

[pseudo prism]

hehe

[formal geyser]

so yeah

transitors gameplay is just so good to me because it has only around like 20 weapons or something, but in reality like 60 upgrades

[neon kayak]

Yes, exactly!

[night salmon]

@lusty girder I'm late here but it sounds like you could find what you're looking for in a lot of JRPGs

anyway, yes, the possibilities in Transistor are nigh-endless

[formal geyser]

someone should do the calcualtions of a fully ||recursed|| setup and the amount of combos you can make

i feel the need to take transitors function stackking and put it in a rougleike

[night salmon]

I mean, give SGG a few more games to experiment with... 😁

You never know what they'll carry over and remix next time.

[formal geyser]

true true

imgaine pyre gameplay but you can actiavte turn once every game

[neon kayak]

I want an extended 2D metroidvania with Functions.

But like, more.

[night salmon]

I'mma be selfish and admit that I hope they don't do a roguelike next time? Denounce me as necessary 😅

[formal geyser]

same

[neon kayak]

Roguelites are really fun, but so are other games.

[night salmon]

I'm just extremely bad at roguelikes and it's prevented me from being able to fully enjoy Hades like I did their previous games

[formal geyser]

theyve done a kinda different genre each game so i hope they continue with that trend

oh thats not fun

[night salmon]

Bastion was really challenging, but I powered through it because I loved everything that it was, and it felt like an accomplishment to beat it.

Transistor, I vibed with that gameplay design. I love being able to pause and assess my next move and then execute it, bam.

[formal geyser]

stoppin then ZOOMIN

[night salmon]

And Pyre took me until almost the end of my first playthrough to figure out how the heck to play wizard basketball WITH FIRE, but it has a forgiving design that way, so it didn't impact my enjoyment too much