h2-for-new-players

[hazy umbra]

Skull is good wdym

[vast willow]

in my opinion its one of the worst weapons

[hazy umbra]

I mean it's still good

All weaps can speedrun fairly well and clear 55 fear

[vast willow]

i see that #1 skull enjoyer is typing

[dreamy cargo]

me when i tried to play hera bow for the first time and found too hard to spam cast

[vast willow]

its so over

[hazy umbra]

Have you figured out how ||Medea|| works yet or do you still think it sucks

[cyan idol]

It's difficult to get a hold of for sure, but it doesn't mean that it's bad. I used to hate skull, but the one of my runs showed me how amazing skull can be, I love skull :D

[vast willow]

people told me, didnt try yet

[dreamy cargo]

First time I tried to play skull, I thought it was preetty bad, and I just didnt used more
then after 100 hours playin a saw a vid of someone playing medea and I thought "oooh, its hera bow, I get it"
and now I know how to play it...

I didnt say its a good weapon tho

[hazy umbra]

You can dislike Mel and ||Pers|| skulls because of the awkward firing thing, but ||Medea|| is really fun

[cyan idol]

I should try Medea's skull at some point

I've only done runs with Mel's skull

[hazy umbra]

||Persephone's|| not bad either

Not the most fun at the start, but once you get it going it's quite fun

[cyan idol]

The boons are always what makes the weapons powerful after all

[hazy umbra]

True, but more true on ||Persephone|| since the aspect itself barely works until you get a Cast that does damage

[chrome adder]

should we be spoiler tagging aspect names?

[hazy umbra]

I might as well

[cyan idol]

alright, sorry

[sand void]

I can't play with the flames at all but I know they are really powerful for example

(I know I'm really late to the conversation 🙈 )

[wise locust]

you can dash and cast without breaking your omega attack charge, just sayin'

[ashen remnant]

flames can be so fun with the right build. I had one with chain lightning attack, the hammer that makes the attacks come to you on dash, and had the attacks detonate with special.

[shy zephyr]

there's a zeus boon that strikes a nearby enemy with lightning each time you use magick, and a hera boon that gives you magick each time you strike an enemy. crazy combination for torches

[merry lantern]

you mean Hestia ? because hera's gain refill all your magick once you're out and prime some of it for the rest of the room

And sadly, hestia's gain only work on regular attack, not omega, so it doesn't regen once you start channeling (still very potent)

[shy zephyr]

yeah i keep mixing them up

[sleek lark]

born gain is still great for torches though

honestly it’s my favourite gain just because it’s so versatile

[frozen quest]

iirc warmth gain (hestia’s) doesn’t work for omega attack and specials, just your normal ones

[raven dove]

I really hate to say it but the story just doesn't grip me nearly as much as in hades 1

It feels less personal and more "grand high stakes" but nobody seems to take it seriously

[chrome adder]

i think the main story not being in the game yet is why

[karmic sigil]

Yeah, there's a key difference where the story in H1 is intentionally kept low-stakes the whole time, while the story in H2 is a much more serious affair. The trick is that we can be sure that once the whole story is there, we're going to have a similar post-game scenario that justifies why continuing to do runs is the thing Mel needs to do. So despite the higher stakes we're presented with, something is going to change, if the objective is to emulate H1's post-game.

[raven dove]

even then i just think the writing isn't nearly as good

[karmic sigil]

shrug The first game is a pretty tough act to follow.

[raven dove]

In hades 1, when I died or won and got back to the home area, my thought was always "oh boy i wonder what all the quirky NPCs have to say this time, i can't wait to customize the house and mess around with the new stuff I unlocked"
In hades 2, to be honest, i'm not compelled to talk to anyone really

A lot of the mechanics are really convoluted, and there's way too many damn resources you need to collect and synthesize, as opposed to the first game

there's just a lot of tedium

all the writing is just so flat and there's not a lot of build-up or implied past history with melinoe and most of the characters in the crossroads

they're just kinda there and their opinions of you don't really change over time, unlike the first game where you go through this bum kid redemption arc

[sleek lark]

tbf a lot of the story arcs aren’t finished since it’s early access

they have huge potential but are kinda half baked now

[tame blade]

For those who are playing on Early Access: Chronos is a good villain? (I am waiting for the full version, but i am really interested in the opinion of whoever is playing)

[vagrant finch]

I think so, yes

[shy zephyr]

we still only have a glimpse at the story but so far, yes, i like him

[vast willow]

he is

[pure wedge]

I'd say so!

[haughty pilot]

Yes (not sure where else you could ask but this is definitely one of the most biased places one could ask lol)

[dapper marsh]

||I do wonder if you can mess with Charon in II like you could in the first game||

[tame blade]

I am way too curious about the game (probably i will give up and buy on Early Access anyway), but i am trying to avoid spoilers at all costs

But i realized that the game probably will have cross save and i can play on Switch when it launch

[thorny root]

Hello, I lovve Hades, but I'm hesitant about whether I should get the second game just yet do to it only being in early access for now. I want to play it but I'm not sure if i should get it now or wait until the story is more complete. Any suggestions either way?

[hazy umbra]

I'd play it, honestly. Gameplay is really good, even if the story is barebones and the second type of run is currently incomplete.

[thorny root]

hm okay, I might do so then. I'm not really worried about the gameplay at all, mostly just the story since it's not fully done yet. I just don't wanna keep telling myself to wait until it's released if it could be up to a couple years

[hazy umbra]

Oh, then I'd just buy it while it's on sale and maybe put it off, if story is your main concern.

[thorny root]

alright, that's not a bad idea. I also don't wanna keep it on my list of stuff i haven't played forever though lol. I suppose there's really no harm in just coming back to it every once in a while when it gets a new update tho

[shy zephyr]

it's not a couple of years, very like it's late 2025 or early 2026

[thorny root]

oh I didn't know that they had said it would be around that time, anyways that sounds like about a decade to me 🥺

[paper jay]

Hades 1 was in EA for 2 years. But there's at least 2 more major patches for EA. Id expect 1.0 possibly late 2025 early 2026

[thorny root]

okay cool, i'll keep that in mind, thanks

[crystal flower]

just got the game from the steam winter sale, and im really surprised it is this good pretty early in development! It all looks so polished already, im so stoked

[tender pier]

There's so much more content than the pre-early access alpha! I'm having a lot of fun

[tender pier]

Is there a heart system in this game? I checked my book of night (equivalent to the codex...?) to try to figure who I had keepsakes for, but I didn't see any heart indicators.

[vagrant finch]

You need an incantation called empaths intuition to see the amount of hearts you have with a character

[tender pier]

Gotcha, thanks!

[tender pier]

I don't need to know how, but is it possible to avoid the ||sheep curse|| from the first biome boss?

[paper jay]

Yes

[sick anvil]

Yes its actually very easy

[old cloud]

dash on it you ill get an invisibility frame

[sleek lark]

or just use frog

is it iframeable at forced overtime/ frenzy 2

i can never be fast enough to dash through

[weary tartan]

"I don't need to know how"

proceeds to explain how

[weary tartan]

||yes||

[tender pier]

Yeah 😅 I wanted to figure it out myself - but I have plenty more to learn. I've made it to the ||house of Hades, second phase|| twice... But I am very bad at not being a damage sponge, so I haven't gotten past that yet. I got them down to about half health tho on my second try.
My first try, I got ||totally nuked in that full screen attack that leaves a little circle to not get hit||.

[frank crown]

So... I've been loving Hades 2 (in some regards more than the first one, especially the more magical/ranged feel of the gameplay). However, I've been losing some of my desire to play very recently. And this is because a thought popped in my head: "What if I'm gonna ruin the game for myself by playing now". The concern isn't so much with the "not having the full experience available", I knew that going in. It's more so random unfinished things forever tainting my initial experience with certain story beats.
idk how to feel about it. Could anyone with more experience regarding the current version of the game and/or having hindsight from the first game's early access give me some advice as to how I should proceed?

[astral beacon]

I would just go for it if you're interested in playing right now! you're already expecting an unfinished story, so just keep that in mind. I'm planning on just making a new save once 1.0 drops so I can experience the story as intended- that might be the best move for you too!

[frank crown]

that a fair point.

I'm just a bit afraid of spoiling myself... that's all...

[frank crown]

thank you!

[frank crown]

second question. How do I get over the fear of messing up the story pacing? I didn't worry about it as much in the first game(tho I still worried about it in some part) because I sucked so much at playing I was forced to take it slow(maybe slower than the expected pace). Keeping a good story flow while being good enough at the game to be able to go "too fast" feels more tricky. One of the few times when getting good is a curse. Tho, there's also times when I worry I'm going too slow.
I do feel like worrying this much about this is a rather me specific thing(I often worry about breaking unconventionally flowing narratives in games), but I'll appreciate any advice nonetheless.

[cerulean scarab]

You can’t go too fast or too slow, just play the game and enjoy it. Also, no story arcs are complete yet anyway

[weary tartan]

yeah, its also highly unlikely youll 'go too fast' if you arent intimately familiar with how the story works and who you want to progress relationships with and when to do so

the worst it gets is sometimes a single weird dialog that is slightly out of place but its pretty rare/small

the pacing in hades 1 was really good where you could go at whatever pace you like and it still worked out, like i was super behind on gifting people in hades 1 and i had to start spamming gifts after i had gotten the ||first ending after 10 victories||

[tender pier]

Can I just get a yes/no answer?
Is it possible to beat ||Chronos, in the house of Hades||, without venturing up to do things in ||Olympus/above ground||?
I've reached ||the second phase where he does full screen (minus a circle) nukes and stuff|| about 3 times, but haven't been able to avoid damage long enough to survive. I just want to confirm that it's a skill issue.

[hazy umbra]

yes

[nimble gyro]

yes :)

[tender pier]

Gotcha. Skill issue it is. I think I can do it with one more death defiance.
Thanks!

[river hearth]

I pretend the game is finished, and that we're waiting for area VIII and hidden aspects DLC

[tulip vigil]

Is Hades 2 more demanding on hardware than the first one or if first one runs well for me on i5-4460 and RX580 would 2 run just as well?

[vagrant whale]

I had the first one on Switch so I can’t speak too much, but the game performs well on my computers & I don’t have terribly great stuff, so it should be fine.

[paper jay]

its not demanding at all honestly

[topaz wigeon]

Heres a spoiler Hades 2 is a sequel to Hades

[sly pumice]

It's more demanding but not by an awful lot. unless you have like 4gb ram your machine should be more than enough

Ram requirement going up is the main difference I've noticed comparing the two

[frank crown]

I'd like to retract my statement of being too good... I'm still very much capable of failing horribly

[tender pier]

Ffffff... Man, I made it to ||Chronos|| with ||4 revives||, and I still lost. For whatever reason, I just soaked aaaaall the damage before getting to a second phase.

I just unlocked ||weapon aspects - I was hoping we would have these still. It surprised me that they weren't around after coming from Hades 1||. This game has so much to do.

Oh man. There's so many options. I'm kind of overwhelmed. I'm not sure which to focus on @@. I think I've done best with ||The Umbral Flames and Argent Skull... Probably because they are ranged.||

[paper jay]

if you like the ||skull|| you might like the ||medea|| aspect

[vagrant whale]

Based on what they say, that seems like the aspect they'd least like.

[paper jay]

damage go brr tho

[vagrant whale]

I've still only half figured out how to best use it

In general that's my least favorite weapon, it just doesn't feel terribly fun to use most of the time

[paper jay]

yeah i dont like the skull much either so your not alone lol

[tender pier]

I like to stand up close to minor or slow enemies and just mash basic attack since ||you basically just get to pick up the skulls right away||.

I think I've had the most luck with stacking things on single damage methods. But... I'm probably playing wrong. I don't think I use my magic enough unless I have ways to Regen it built in. ||Which I recently got the arcana for that, and that's nice||

[naive stump]

Prob go ||persephone skull|| if you want range

Otherwise base torches attack build doesn't need aspect lvls and works with good range

[tender pier]

I think it's one of those things where I want range for now, but once I have aspects leveled up and have a full load out for arcana, I would probably prefer close range. That's what happened in H1 for me.

Granted, my favorite weapon in H1 was the shield by far. I think Beowulf, Chaos, then Zeus aspects in that order. But I used Zeus the most, probably.
My favorite weapon before I got "good" was the Chiron bow.

[sleek lark]

god i miss zeus shield

[tender pier]

What's not to miss about being able to throw out a spinning disc of death, while simultaneously hiding behind an unbreakable blocking wall? XD

[north fossil]

the torches can be really nutty if used right, especially the ||moros|| ones

[paper jay]

that aspect isnt exactly a ranged weapon tho considering its playstyle

[north fossil]

oh yea that's true tbf

unless you're just really good at controlling the regular specials

[tender pier]

I'm still learning that. I'm kinda crappy with them and neglect to use them unless I get a strong special boon, then I try to heavily use it.

I've gotten to ||Chronos, phase 2|| about 4 times how and am still struggling with it. There's so much going on and I just get chunked for huge damage. I think someone mentioned in chat that ||dark = bad|| and that helped me with avoiding a lot of the big AOE things.
My most recent attempt was with the torches. I think I fell into a trap and replaced my Poseidon attack with Apollo attack because it had +2 level... I would have been better off staying Poseidon.

The thing I struggle with is that I can clear rooms leading up to the fight with taking no damage, even against mini bosses... But the boss fight just chunks me down.

I took a recording of my last try and I got frozen and chunked down a few times still. I think I'm just not used to the visual queues still.

[tender pier]

It took me 23 nights, but I finally cleared the underworld for the first time. I cleared it with the twin blades and only lost 2 death defiance.

[teal sandal]

meanwhile I have finally made it past Erebus for the first time after like 11 nights and got promptly destroyed by the ||sea serpent||

[hazy umbra]

that one sucks tbf lol

[teal sandal]

i appreciate the validation 😭😭😭😭

[sleek lark]

the sea serpents in general suck

gotta love trying to whack a mole 20 of them who are popping out randomly

[balmy jungle]

I love the game, but I miss the weapons from Hades 1 so much, the shield was my belowed but in the end I got good at each of them (though my least used was the fists by far, then the bow). Right now I don't really have a weapon that I really like in this game.

Staff: Don't like relying on Omega moves, I felt really weak against the bosses who just move out of them. I do like to keep my istance.

Knives: Kinda cool might go with this one next I did beat the final boss with it. I have no issues other than what do I do if the enemies are standing in fire or there is some other hazard? This was my problem with all the short range weapons in Hades 1 in Asphodel too.

Hammer: I beat the other one with it, I am using Thana aspect so it is a bit more bearable, but I hate the final hit. Why is it so small and cumbersome?

Skulls: Yeah beats me what this one does. I don't even feel like it would be too powerful with unlimited ammo, but right now I am focusing so much on retrieving the skulls that the enemies just murder me. I do not think that it does a lot of damage. I never really went for the cast in the first game.

Torch: I got the aspect of Moros so it is finally a bit fun, but it is no gun let me tell you that. Gun with Zeus aspect was so fun, I don't feel like there is something like that in the game.

Also, hammers feel severely weaker this game I feel like a lot of them nerf my weapon too. I tried the keepsake that gave me a free hammer and it made all my axe hits into the final one which made things so much more difficult.

[chrome adder]

hammers in this game are a lot better overall- ||exp hammer|| rolling you into ||hell splitter||on ||axe|| is a tale as old as time though

[shy zephyr]

"a tale as old as time"
i see what you did there

[tardy cloak]

just beat ||chronos || for the first time

[chrome adder]

ggs!

[dusty mural]

Agreed! The weapons feel, um, kinda floppy compared to Hades I? They just don't feel like they do much or are as powerful as the weapons from Hades I do. The closest thing has been the Moonstone Axe.

With Hades I, I was really proud of my builds and would repeatedly try to get faster times or new combos. I just looked back at my posts in #h1-victory-boasting , and I was suddenly reminded of how much more powerful the weapons and boon synergies felt there. It honestly made me want to redownload Hades I and compare it to Hades II to see the difference.

But the story, oh wow the story really has been so amazing so far!!!

[hazy umbra]

All the weapons atm have the ability to be really powerful really early on (maybe except the staff), it's just that some of them feel super unintuitive until you just have it click or someone tells you how to use em

[vagrant whale]

The main thing I've noticed with the weapons in 2 is that their power is a lot more dependent on hammers than they were in 1

There's very few hammers in 1 that I would always aim for, but in 2 I feel like every weapon has at least 1 or 2 hammers that I really want

[hazy umbra]

Honestly, yeah. Each aspect has that one hammer that makes them play differently or just more potent

...except Staff ig.

[dusty mural]

Oh? I think I had a similar issue with ||Selene||; until I started actively trying to use/understand her boons I wasn't really enjoying them.

If I'm missing something with the weapons after 10+ hours, honestly, I think that's a bit of a problem! How am I supposed to use some of them? Stuff like the ||torches|| and ||skull|| have been BORING.

[vagrant whale]

Staff is the odd one out because its "best" hammers are the ones that don't really go with any aspect

[hazy umbra]

If you need help with anything lmk over in #h2-builds-and-combat

[hazy umbra]

It just plays the same across all 3 with some differences is all

Channel speed reduc / power and regen / echoed Omegas

[vagrant whale]

I've found the ||torches|| to be relatively easy to get the hang of, ||skulls|| I've seen be powerful but I'm terrible with them

[hazy umbra]

For the most part the other weaps don't have this issue aside from the two Attack based Blades to a degree

[opaque helm]

artemis my beloved (aspect and character)

[vagrant whale]

I was a ||Pan|| believer from the start, it just took until the recent blade changes for people to recognize how fun it is

[hazy umbra]

I think people always knew it was good no ?

[vagrant whale]

I seem to remember it being slow to pick up

[hazy umbra]

It sucks early on yeah

[dusty mural]

It's less the technical ability of them, in my opinion, and more about the entertainment I derive from them, if that makes sense. They might be good from a win/loss perspective, but they can feel boring to use.

[frank crown]

I personally find them more fun than the H1 weapons.

[dusty mural]

I think I might be missing something, honestly!

[chrome adder]

staff has that hammer, because when i click wicked thrasher, i no longer feel like i am swinging around a pool noodle, which is a pretty big change for me

[frail crater]

Turns magic staff into martial arts staff 😂

[steep lance]

having the power-shot hammer with double omega special felt like playing the bow again with double shot. needless to say ||chronos|| didn't stand much of a chance

[cobalt rivet]

Honestly Descura always felt like it had weight to it to me. Not as much as ||Zorophet||, but u know, that’s a high bar.

[ornate ice]

Heya, just doing my regular check in to see if hades 2 has a release date (or even semi release date like month~) yet? Saving myself for 1.0 has been extremely difficult 😅

[fast plover]

nope 😔 i'd probably wait until late 2025/early 2026 for that, we're still decently early into early access

[ornate ice]

Gotcha, thank you ❤️

[mint hearth]

can someone help i dont now how to see the gifts of the gods. when i go in a run i want to now what i need to get some duo bones or what i can get from this god in generall

[naive stump]

have you obtained the incantation for that yet

[mint hearth]

how do iget that

[naive stump]

gift nectar to every god, iirc that includes ||hera, who spawns in the surface, and not sure if the other 2 up there are needed.||

[crude laurel]

Anyone else feel the blitz status effect is kinda awful? Like if if doesn't do anything unless I pile on more hits of the thing that's applying it, then it's really not useful against bosses where you need to be evasive... and you don't really need it for standard enemies

curious if it's just me who can't seem to find a use for it, or if there's some synergy I'm not seeing. It's a shame cause Zeus was one of my favorite boon givers back in 1

[vagrant finch]

blitz is currently one of the stronger status effects, you need to put it on a secondary move (like special for medea or moros) and it helps a ton

[fast plover]

yeah it's definitely super powerful, especially if you get a few pom levels on it

hell with king's ransom it becomes one of the most insane damage sources in the game

[crude laurel]

Guess I just haven't been getting things that synergize with it so far. I've been having more success with scorch or blast where I can poke to trigger it and then dodge rather than needing to apply it and then commit to more attacks to trigger it. But yeah I've been looking at those damage numbers and wanting to try and figure out how to make it work for me lol

presumably it'll also get better as I learn the bosses more and can find openings to exploit easier.

[wheat elbow]

I got blitz on my sickle and dagger attacks and the damage carried me hard Blitz rules

you can combo really good on those

[crude laurel]

yeah I suppose getting the damage off to trigger on that weapon would be pretty easy

apply with special, then dark in and combo to trigger

[wheat elbow]

yeah it was, and it was amazing :)

[crude laurel]

I had a similar experience with scorch where I just... applied a few thousand with fast combos and then got to let it tick away without needing to take aggressive risks. It wasn't as bursty but it was satisfying to just watch the health bars deplete while being safe from going down myself

[wheat elbow]

Pyro TF2 experience

[weary tartan]

zeus attack + w+m1 unga bunga

[frail crater]

Try blitz on ||coat|| special with Aphro attack if you get the ||auto fire special hammer||, it is insanely powerful xD

You just spam attack and things just die

[icy plover]

Yeah, it'll be September at the absolute earliest. They said the next update won't take as long as the last one, but there'll be at least one more between that and 1.0.

[heavy valley]

How incomplete is the game? Are there still placeholder portraits?

[odd garden]

||echo|| and ||narcissus|| still have placeholders for their character art and/or 3D model

[scenic raven]

does ||circe|| also need a 3D model?

[odd garden]

Oop, you’re right, I forgot that one.

[opaque helm]

i figured ||narcissus|| was intentional?

oh interesting i thought it was a stylistic choice, them saying “he’s more beautiful than we could possibly show” or smth

[naive stump]

That's from a datamine which is not allowed here

[odd garden]

Wasn’t aware - deleted it

[ancient hearth]

how can i get bronze?

[shy zephyr]

if you're at a point where you need bronze you may as well go ask in #h2-discussion
you can find them ||on the surface. if you can't stay alive there yet, just retry runs until you get it in the first room||

[severe falcon]

Question. I just got access to a new zone ||the surface||, but haven't defeated the (presumably) final boss of the initial arc yet ||Chronos||. Is there any reason to avoid checking out the new zone since before defeating that boss?

[weary tartan]

nope, theyre both meant to sorta run parallel to each other once you unlock the ||second route||

[severe falcon]

Cool! Guess I'll give that a go then. Kinda feeling the change of pace.

Thanks.

[urban bobcat]

Which contrasts with the other curse related storyline. Either way, hopefully it’ll get developed in the next next major update

[opaque helm]

no spoilers channel
looks inside
massive block of spoilers
lmao

[grand phoenix]

😂

[grand phoenix]

Should I delete it? Someone told me I could write in here about a bug in the storyline

I deleted it

[opaque helm]

i think they misinterpreted your original question as “where can i go to avoid spoilers” unfortunately

[vital summit]

This game is so friggin cool man

I'm addicted

can't wait for 1.0 to release so I can delete my save and play it all over again

[frail crater]

I have intentionally skipped most/a lot of dialogue despite having nearly 90h in the game so I can properly enjoy it in 1.0

[vital summit]

Like... ugh, SG put so much personality in their games man. I will say though

actually maybe it's unfair to say its better than hades 1, I played that when I was like 16. Been 4 years since

But still, game definitely makes me more enthusiastic to keep going than 1 did, instead of depressing "no escape" song and the dark red of the river styx and the text telling me to git gud

it says "Time cannot be stopped" which makes me all like "THE HELL IT CAN'T-"

[chrome adder]

all fun and games til ||you die in erebus for the 5th time in a row and chronos goes “you appear to be a slow learner” after you die or just laughs in your face||
that gets infuriating quick

[red glade]

yup I was always skeptical about the series cuz I never like roguelikes cuz they feel so grindy, meanwhile I've put like 30 hours into Hades 2 since buying it a week ago lol

[fallow panther]

Only one question, any idea of a release date for ps5? I've avoided all spoilers so far but kinda getting anxious to play 🥹

[red glade]

My guess is either the same time or after the PC 1.0 release, because there's no "early access" for console really

[vagrant whale]

^^ I'd assume probably a little after 1.0 since porting will likely take a bit more time

[red glade]

IMO 99.99% chance they're working on the console versions in parallel but can't ship anything because it has to be a finished product -- it's actually totally possible they'll release all at the same time

[fallow panther]

Is there like an estimate of which quarter in 2025?

[opaque helm]

for full release? we don’t even know for sure that 1.0 will drop in 2025 but if it does it’ll be right at the end

[fallow panther]

Whaaat.

Thats the problem with early access, they get their money and then the full polished product gets put on the shelf until they eventually get around to it. Boo.

Not to say the early access product is not good (I haven't tried it). I just want to play a finished game

[naive stump]

me when game development takes time

[fallow panther]

Ok well, I will keep waiting. I understand things take time. Thanks for the information!

[opaque helm]

i mean. they're actively developing it lmao
there are at least 2 major updates planned, one in "early 2025"

[fast plover]

yeah we got an entire massive update a couple months ago and there's another one on its way within the next two months or so

so "put on the shelf" is nowhere near the right word to describe h2 early access lol

[opaque helm]

they left lmao

[red glade]

oh for real? it still says "1 mutual server" for me

[opaque helm]

says none for me

[turbid comet]

They did leave but I also don't understand how they described early access and then are upset that it's early access and not a full release. Especially when there are a million warnings being very up front about it. I don't get it.

[red glade]

yup it no longer shows it now that I reloaded Discord. and yeah I agree, like this game is the primary focus currently, it's not on the backburner. this is the nature of early access titles. you just gotta wait if you want 1.0

[vital summit]

nah I love crap like that

[chrome adder]

its cool but it makes me wanna rip my hair out sometimes

[vital summit]

keep talking trash ||chronos|| you'll get yours ||buddy||

[weary tartan]

when i die to timer for the 6th time and he takes all the credit

[chrome adder]

look man when i get screwed by bad rng only for chronos to say i have a skill issue it gets on my nerved

[vital summit]

might wanna censor that name

[chrome adder]

i mean he should be able to take credit for death via passage of Time

[weary tartan]

fair actually

[vital summit]

thats what motivates me to keep going man

ye may be laughing now, but just wait until I get that frankly broken power that makes me invincible for ten seconds

along with my doom charm that essentially gives me an extra life

and ||echo's|| buff which usually gives me another one

then I will take ya down to charlie town

Honestly the only reason I got careless around ||chronos|| is because I didnt wanna win

I just wanted to see how long it took to get there

and now that I got there, the game shall remain a shelf ornament until the full release comes

[ivory swift]

It find it silly we’re all trying no to spoil ||Chronos|| and ||Prometheus|| like they ||werent already teased in their respective trailers||

[merry lantern]

at least for the latter, in the trailer his name is "? ? ?" (although you can easily guess who it is)

[vagrant finch]

also I wouldnt say its fair to assume everyone watches every trailer

[slender geode]

I didnt see anyone not knowing who is said characters are

[heavy valley]

The torch weapon feels unfinished

The ghosts look like placeholder models and correct me if i'm wrong but the torch model itself looks straight from Hecate's boss model

[grand vortex]

iknow i just started for like 2 hours but is there anything so far in this game as stupid as hades 1's artemis crits (i need the numbers bro

[solid pulsar]

You can have humongous numbers yes, say Axe with some hammers and boons

[shy zephyr]

may wanna spoiler mark some of that

(just weapon and god names actually)

[urban bobcat]

If you wanna spoil yourself speedruns are always a fun way to see how fast and big numbers can get (bosses deleted)

[grand vortex]

i just learned of the axe

while i have yet to prevail, those numbers do be really funny

[opaque helm]

those numbers do indeed be really funny

[vast oasis]

Finally bought it lol

Was gonna wait for 1.0 but it’s too good to wait for

[ornate basin]

for great numbers, pair with aphrodite

[grand vortex]

update: lvl 9 hephaestus attack boons go really funny

||didnt beat chronos that run but eh what can you do||

[vast oasis]

Started playing and I haven’t put it down until now 💀insanely good game

[chrome adder]

based

[surreal palm]

i'm trying to pace myself so i don't get too tired of it before the story's all in. hard, tho

[steep lance]

apollo is also good

[wheat turret]

🌒 🌕 🌘

[surreal palm]

is there a way to select a different visual from the aspect you're using on a weapon? 'cuz i really like how the third aspect for the axe looks, but the second aspect works better for me for playing

[autumn rock]

nope

[bleak timber]

I have a possibly unusual question.

Does anyone here knows the words chanted in "Wrath of the Heavens"?

The only definitive thing my brain that has not studied Latin can get out of it is "Olympus".

[jovial summit]

Does anyone know what the spawn rate is with plasma

[rotund sonnet]

hephaestus+hera is a funny combo

yes, I replied to a 7 day old message

[rigid trench]

hey can anyone tell me what "Trusty Armor" actually does as a boon

it just says "Gain armor in each location until the next, but you prime 30"

until the next what?

[opaque helm]

every location (full room) you get some armor

[rigid trench]

im just confused about the until part

[opaque helm]

it only refreshes at the start of the room, once it runs out it’s gone until you enter the next one

[rigid trench]

i see, ty

[opaque helm]

also if you have some left over from a previous room it just tops it off it doesn’t stack on top

[inland hound]

Without spoiling anything, about how many hours does it take before you start bumping up against the end of the current story content?

[upbeat lagoon]

Depends on how long it takes you to beat chronos

[shy zephyr]

extremely dependant on your skill level

[wanton plover]

starving for the next major update

[signal pewter]

hoping for full release!

[shy zephyr]

unfortunately not yet

late 2025 or early 2026

[signal pewter]

I know.
I'll have to be patient and carefully avoid spoilers until then!

[hoary lark]

trusty armor can go really good with the gift you get from Arachne if you give her a juice bottle

[stiff hawk]

Hades tuah

[sleek lark]

average satyr from the H1 temple of styx:

[opaque helm]

@sudden whale what do you mean "the Star Trek menu"

[sudden whale]

I thought that there might be misunderstandings, I play in Russian and don’t know what it’s called in English. When you have a spell from the moon and you are offered options for improving it

[opaque helm]

ahhh

"path of stars"
star trek is an american science fiction franchise

[sudden whale]

xD

[opaque helm]

oh whoops we're in the wrong channel, lets move to #h2-discussion

[sacred pike]

did they fix the weapons synergy to match the first game yet?

or is it still mid

[edgy isle]

As in?

Nothing has changed fundamentally with the weapons so im not really sure what you are asking here

[wanton plover]

does the current hades 2 have an epilogue yet? is the story finished?

[shy zephyr]

nope, not even close

we get a glimpse at what's going to happen but most of the story will be added on 1.0 launch

[wanton plover]

i'm really itching to play but i really want the story to be finishedd

i loved the 1st game

so there's still no like progression when you beat the "main boss" just like in hades 1 if you beat hades, there's a reason why you need to beat him again and again

[upbeat lagoon]

Correct

[edgy isle]

story will not finish until 1.0

[edgy isle]

To make a comparison to hades 1, after beating dad you trip on a rock and die

The REASON for doing it over and over is there, but we cannot progress

[ocean ginkgo]

🌒 🌕 🌘

One eye in the past, one eye in the future, and all knowing

[pliant glade]

I've put over 100+ hours into just the early release version of this game and it's crazy to think it's not even complete yet! We still have so much more left to look forward to.

How is this game just so addicting and effortlessly fun?

[shy zephyr]

roguelike moment

[pliant glade]

Oh yes. It's the first roguelike I've been able to really get addicted to. I should try more out though.

[fast plover]

i'd highly recommend games like risk of rain 2 and dead cells! i played those right after hades and absolutely loved them, so you should give them a shot

[gloomy barn]

I've been replaying H1, and watching gaming channels play them so I can hype myself up for when H2 releases. Still sad that my computer can't handle it, but I hope that everyone is enjoying the early access.

[lusty dome]

good gameplay and gambling

oh also great music

[sacred pike]

all the weapons except maybe the deafult were trash with no synergy with boons

[edgy isle]

Then absolutely nothing changed, no weapons were reworked, and a few aspects got minor changes(With staff getting completely reworked on one)

But overall you are wrong about the zero synergy part, cause each weapon has heavy synergy with various boons even back in patch 1

[paper jay]

no weapons were reworked

are you sure about that.

[edgy isle]

Weapon wise, yes? Staff and daggers got hammers added basekit but i wouldn't call it a rework

[paper jay]

patch 3 moros in shambles

[edgy isle]

thats aspect, not weapons. And honestly torches are so out of my mind i don't even think they exist tbh. Persephone also got reworked too i guess

[paper jay]

aspects are apart of the weapon so

[merry lantern]

that wouldn't qualify for a rework of the weapon as a whole

closer thing that would qualify I guess is the axe special

[paper jay]

also yeah, axe doesnt have its block anymore thats effectively a rework

[shy zephyr]

as if h1 weapons weren't trash when you picked them up for the first time

you just gotta put some practice in and git gud

[sacred pike]

not at all, it was pretty fun to play and figure out new boon synergies in h1

[sacred pike]

thx for the info, ill wait on for the full release

[woeful sandal]

Guys how do I get aspects bruh

Help

[vagrant whale]

You'll unlock them after fighting Hecate a certain number of times

[edgy isle]

Specifically with all weapons

not just enough fights

[ebon thicket]

Really? Because I’ve never used ||skull|| like at all

And I think I unlocked aspects before fighting Hecate with axe

[edgy isle]

yes

[rigid trench]

can someone please explain what the aspect of persophone does?

i genuinely cannot decipher it

[edgy isle]

Your omega moves naturally deal more damage.

Your omega special has a unique model with full mobility controls instead of being locked in a straight line

While in your omega special any damage dealt by your cast can extend the duration of you in your special up to 2 seconds total

EG drop zeus cast and omega special > get 2 seconds longer of iframes and damage

[umbral sand]

2 questions

[paper jay]

2 answers

[umbral sand]

1. can you open the gate in the crossroads? (melinoë says the river is overflowing)
2. can you unlock the stairs thing in the Schelemeus zone?

[paper jay]

Yes and yes

[umbral sand]

Thank you

I'll figure out how >:)

[vast oasis]

You get the three base aspects for each weapon after a certain amount of Hecate clears, idk if there is hidden aspects like in the original

[opaque helm]

hidden aspects do not exist yet but they almost certainly will

[vast oasis]

Hopefully

[woeful sandal]

K

[regal badge]

hello hades 2 owners

i have a question, is it possible i will miss some moments significant to the story if i play in early access?

i am generally quite worried i will miss out on some content if i play it in early access

which torments me greatly because hades might be my favorite game and i really want to play the sequel

[edgy isle]

define significant. It will remove some of the flair and accomplishment getting story rewards if you beat the game like 50 times and get nothing, and then on 1.0 beat it and finally start getting story

No story progression is in the game until 1.0. At most you will see stuff out of order as it gets implemented

EG dialogue for something you did 30 hours ago gets added next patch and they finally start commenting on how you found and fought X miniboss

[regal badge]

that's... not too bad

thanks

[edgy isle]

If you played hades 1, the biggest thing i can compare it to is that after beating dad you trip on a rock and die. you won't get anything about meeting mom or anything that comes from that breakpoint

[regal badge]

yeah that's totally fine, thank you, i have been holding off on buying the game for a long time now because of this worry ive had

[edgy isle]

for what its worth we are due for an update in the next...... 3~ weeks ish?

So it will likely be on sale and have the entire "full" game gameplay wise after that for the most part

while still missing some important stuff like hidden aspects(unless next patch adds them) we know that gameplay map wise it'll all be there probably

[regal badge]

ohh ok, understandable

[cobalt rivet]

What if next patch is on valentine's day.

[paper jay]

Seems like a bad idea

[cobalt rivet]

Sorry babe gotta cancel that reservation.

I do think it would be funny.

[weary tartan]

friday patches are risky

[grand nest]

Elden Ring

[ripe flame]

Hope it's not on the 11th, I got in the Nightreign network test, so I'm taking the day off for that.

[austere wyvern]

Brand new, never played Hades I or II, should I wait for full launch or jump in now? Thoughts? Thanks! 🙏🏼

[cobalt rivet]

I would play the first game, and then see how you feel.

[austere wyvern]

Fair, I know for a fact I want to play Hades II, I’m just not sure I want to play in EA or not. Has there been any talks of timeline for full release?

[cobalt rivet]

Not specifically. The next patch is coming “early 2025” which could be any time before July but is more likely going to be around March.

And after that I believe we have one more patch before full release, which means we’re looking at 1.0 in fall of this year at the earliest.

[austere wyvern]

Good to know, thank you for the responses!

[cobalt rivet]

I think playing the first game will help you see how important gameplay vs. story is to your enjoyment.

Not that Hades 2 has no story (it has a lot), but it’s just currently missing that feeling of catharsis that comes with achieving your goals and tying up the loose ends.

[austere wyvern]

I think gameplay is most important. I’ve got 450 hours in Path of Exile 2 early access and a big chunk of story is missing from that.

[cobalt rivet]

I would say wait for the next patch then! It’s most likely going to have the last major changes and additions to gameplay content.

[fast plover]

i'd personally recommend playing the first game anyway, it's a genuinely great experience and one of my favourites of all time

both are great and both excellent games that you could probably easily get into regardless but you'll have an easier time playing 2 if you understand the groundwork 1 lays

[strange musk]

When console

[vagrant whale]

Likely a little after 1.0

[opaque helm]

tomorrow

[ebon thicket]

1 month after silksong

[turbid comet]

20 minutes ago you missed it

[chrome wave]

So never

[urban bobcat]

Wow so soon?? Can’t wait to see more people’s vids on it

[fallow pecan]

Ok so I just finished H1... I am having a hard time not jumping into H2, I generally try and wait for a full release..

[hazy umbra]

buy it and put it off

They can't guarantee that the price stays the same during full release

[fallow pecan]

Theres zero chance if I buy it I don't play it 🤣

[hazy umbra]

Story's kinda barebones atm so if that's a dealbreaker then yeah, bad idea to play as a full experience

unless you're down with just skipping everything and playing for the gameplay

[tame blade]

Another roguelike would be nice so

[hazy umbra]

then actually take in the story with a fresh save on full release

[tame blade]

Personally I recommend Cult of The Lamb

[fallow pecan]

I dont mind mind paying full price, SG deserves it 👍

[hazy umbra]

I was gonna suggest some Balatro or Slay the Spire for a change of pace but still roguelike

[tame blade]

I saved a money that I gained in my bday last year just for this

Just waiting it appear on Nintendo eShop

[fallow pecan]

I mean they even put the discord mods on the credits at the end of h1, what company does that

[paper jay]

Windwalk games.

[cobalt rivet]

Personally, I only chose to do early access because I came into Hades basically blind on the fact that I really liked Transistor. So in my case, coming in from the beginning was a new experience.

But I can understand wanting to experience it completely spoiler free. It's was a magical experience for me the first time (also I was really bad at it lol).

[celest jay]

indeed transistor was peak

[cobalt rivet]

I should not have played it on keyboard though

My poor tendons

[surreal palm]

oooof

... didn't notice that post was over a day old. oops

[cobalt rivet]

noooo you got me excited for a possible patch again 😭

[surreal palm]

yeah, sorry

[rancid prism]

I might be a bit weird for this but I'm having a lot of trouble properly enjoying hades 2

I prefer hades 1 a lot more, dunno if it's cz the story isn't there yet for hades 2

[hazy umbra]

Might be, that or you like the dash-fueled gameplay more

[cobalt rivet]

Yeah there is definitely the lack of catharsis when you beat the final boss and just get immediately shunted back.

[toxic steppe]

hades 1 is a finished game, and hades 2 had only one major update so far

[turbid comet]

I don't know how many more warnings or head-ups people need to do on an early access game to convey the obvious

[hoary rock]

i love the music in this game

[bronze oar]

does hades 2 ever go on discount or if i want it should i just buy it

[urban bobcat]

https://steamdb.info/app/1145360/
here’s the stats for hades 1, I assume hades 2 will go on sale too eventually

The only real question is if they’ll raise the price on full release and how long you’re willing to wait

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/995462516257869876/1340891361804554270/image0.jpg?ex=67b401e5&is=67b2b065&hm=6ce983bd659204e22398f98a329811dd5e65ab9386dfdbafde996270706ba6f7&

Already answered in #h2-discussion

[plain saffron]

im still waiting it to be on sale

[spiral oasis]

the guy who voices ||icarus|| is the guy from hugo???????????? im dead supergiant yall killed me

[spiral schooner]

ASA BUTTERFIELD???

[shy zephyr]

you should spoiler mark the name of the character

and yes the game has amazing voice acting, just like h1

[ebon lantern]

I knew I liked the character's voice, just couldn't place it. I love Asa Butterfield.

[tame blade]

I would never expect seeing him in a game

[ebon lantern]

It's incredible. It's also time to stay in here. New update means spoilers galore.

[spiral schooner]

he's a p big gamer

[ebon lantern]

He was on an esports team for a few years.

[tame blade]

Dunno

[spiral schooner]

he used to be sponsored by a smash ult team/has come out to a bunch of tournaments

[tame blade]

He's also very similar with his character

[spiral schooner]

also used to post about other games on twitter a bunch but unlike ult, they weren't stuff I've followed

[ancient tusk]

GAH

I gotta buy a new controller 😭

[dusty ingot]

Guys, have you also lost your saves in the game or is it just me?

[snow field]

patch isnt there yet for me

ok now it is haha

[harsh spire]

Supergiant, I need to plan a TTRPG session that's happening tomorrow, you cannot just drop the second major update right now!

[tropic dragon]

Aaaaa im panicking 😄 cant wait to play it...tomorrow after work :(((

[cedar raft]

well now

I guess I chose a VERY nice time to start streaming Hades 2

can't wait until Tuesday to resume

[hybrid isle]

I see my favorite weapon is in the new art for the game

[glacial kraken]

New here! Does anyone know if Supergiant ever discussed making a physical copy of tarot deck/Altar of Ashes cards?

[glacial finch]

they dont really discuss merch in general to my knowledge we kinda get whatever gets released

[glacial kraken]

ooo okie tyty

[paper horizon]

im afraid to see what the boss of this new area is

[chilly spear]

is possible to wake up hipnos with this new update?

[shy zephyr]

we don't know for sure but i didn't see anything about it in the patch notes

[vast flower]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/513935111729709080/1341857357902250100/image.png?ex=67b7858c&is=67b6340c&hm=4d7c89493307dd3bd4c61beb49a856f43db5d3fc96371569bb2bf617e3b80857&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1584&height=504
does anyone know why im -10 mana? im in the practice range and i wanted to see if i did smth wrong before going to tech support

its the same with any wep/cards

[solar fractal]

theres no harm in reporting bugs with F10! cant really know without any other details, and theres also no trouble in messaging in tech support - it doesnt get drowned out as much

[vast flower]

eported w f10 already but sounds good! ill sendit in tech support too

kinda sad bc i wanted to do some runs but this bug is a bit much

[supple magnet]

Hi, after the update are there some news about the future roadmap of the game?:) (like when the full version releases) I can't access my PC rn that's why I'm asking💖

[tame blade]

There will be at least one more

[vast oasis]

Wait is the new update already out

[tame blade]

Yep

[vast oasis]

New boss looks like typhon(theory)

Maybe hes a threat that even chronos will fight against

[tame blade]

||It's him||

[vast oasis]

Taking all my self control to not click that 😭

[deep patrol]

i have been spoil in no spoil channel

[tame blade]

Sorry

[deep patrol]

on this message

[vast oasis]

This is a theory I haven’t played the update

[deep patrol]

i havent see any visual of the update

[vast oasis]

Trailer on their YouTube at the end it shows a storm

[deep patrol]

i never see trailers

[vast oasis]

And it talks in a monstrous voice like from the myths

[deep patrol]

idc

[lean lily]

Why is ares so soft looking? Like even Aphrodite picked up a spear and is ready for battle and Ares is just sitting there??? Idk

[agile steppe]

he's resting... he's a busy guy...

[tame blade]

Makes sense if you think that a war is a kinda of a cozy place to him

[vast oasis]

Ares doesn’t need a spear he can just give an army the doom effect and watch them drop like flies

[woven dome]

Man I'm excited that new update dropped but i don't wanna burn myself out for release

[lilac sundial]

What? He has a sword and is covered in blood with a serial killers smile

[lean lily]

I meant shape language wise too. In hades 1 his armor had a lot of angular shapes which is more menacing. But in hades 2 this sprite has rounded shapes which usually indicates friendliness (despite the fact he’s covered in blood lol) His helmet is off too, which is interesting and while it was off in hades 1 as well, Athena has her helmet on now.

[lilac sundial]

OK shapes and helmet are both fair points

[lean lily]

I’m not saying I dislike it, i think it’ll take some getting used to.

[proper surge]

Hi everyone! Does anyone know if the achievements we reach in the Early Access game will be saved for the Full Release? I've already done 20+ runs and I'm wondering if I'll have to start from zero when the full game comes out?

[glacial finch]

i do not think anything has been mentioned officially anywhere but if it is handled similarly to hades 1 then story specific achievements, or things that can only really be done once on a save file should be retroactive, and things that can be done on any run will have to be done again. but we wont know for sure until 1.0

[proud dragon]

i now officially have an unobtainable 31 grasp build because of the nerfs 💔

[zenith willow]

The art for the Arcana is so beautiful

[floral crypt]

ofc an update drops while my computer is broken 💀

[tame blade]

The Champions Card 😳

[tawdry bolt]

i was aovbtu to go to sleep

its 2 am at my home i came back from work and see update was finally today

no sleep then....

[edgy isle]

I don't have a source so its a trust me bro, but circa EA release a dev talked about how it was exactly that, retroactive if one time only

[glacial finch]

i dont remember but it wouldnt surprise me, at any rate

[edgy isle]

i think it was caitlin but im checking to make sure

nah wasn't her that i can see

[warm quail]

In the patch notes it mentions the roadmap was updated? Is there anywhere we can see the roadmap or is that a back end thing?

[vale zealot]

Would love to know as well ^

[olive halo]

Brutal violence is a form of meditation for him. He's chill af

[stable crane]

He's in his element, absolute flow state, making it look effortless fr

[edgy isle]

its on the steam news

scroll to the bottom but tldr its hidden aspects, EM hades 1 equivelant and "Story"

but full story won't come till 1.0

[lean lily]

Guys also Ares’ pose is a reference to a statue of him irl so that’s cool

[odd garden]

Seconding this, he looks completely comfortable and in his element - imo it makes sense that he’s not looking on edge, this is his happy place

[polar bolt]

i just saw that there was a major update that came out im so hyped

part of me wants to watch the trailer but another part of me is about to go in completely blind

[timber monolith]

Have to ask, what's the use of choosing the tool to go with per run? I seem to be able to use all of them? Haven't really been keeping up with the updates and changes that much

[odd garden]

Are you playing with the newest update?

[timber monolith]

Yea, I come back every minor/major update and play it a bunch then wait for the next update. Don't want to exhaust all content until the full release

[whole flicker]

Seeing that new key art for the latest update of the game, I predict that the final ESRB rating for this game once it goes onto v1.0 could be an M for Mature.

That key art alone would not warrant a T rating for the game

[frail crater]

How do I just hide this whole category I won't have time to play new update for a couple weeks and don wan spoilers

[vast hedge]

omg question bc idk if im tripping or not. ||surface route is just. way harder than the underworld route right....? i think in the past i gaslit myself into thinking its the same difficulty but now i just think i have a crazy skill issue||

[vast hedge]

maybe mute the channel? :0

[frail crater]

I have the whole server muted but have zero self control 😭

[primal trench]

This is the no spoiler channel, if anything this is the one you want to be in

[paper jay]

left click/hold the hades 2 category you can remove it from your list

[frail crater]

I should just quit it tbh

That worked

[potent badge]

like, comparing regions surface has always been harder. ||Eris|| just had easy to counter patterns, but her damage output is pretty intense

[vast hedge]

i peek in here to see ppl's builds bc jesus christ man. i am STRUGGLINGGGGG omg

[frail crater]

Thanks, catch y'all in a few weeks

[vast hedge]

||man idk How i thought she was easy before because lately she's just been eating up my dd's lol 😔 ||

[frail crater]

Been there, done that 😂

[vast hedge]

dunno how people have gotten to all the new content bc omg..... man i tried one of the new minibosses and got so freaked out

[frail crater]

I keep bashing my head against the wall until I win once then I immediately pop to this server find all the new broken builds 😂

[vast hedge]

thats the only way to do it tbh

tbh im probably just gna be messing around w god mode tmrw so i can figure stuff out and learn attacks and stuff orz

[frail crater]

Also they finally made god mode adjustable so I am gonna pop it on so fast 😂

[vast hedge]

GOD MODE IS ADJUSTABLE??????

[frail crater]

Yes, it's in patch notes

[vast hedge]

oh hell yeah we are so back.... <-(i keep forgetting to read patch notes

[frail crater]

They finally put it in, it was a pretty frequently requested feature

[half of those was me because I am at the precise threshold where I have just enough of a skill issue that I need a little bit of god mode but not too much 😂 ]

[paper cobalt]

||how do i unlock ares? i figured it would be after reaching the summit but i cant find him anywhere||

[primal trench]

Make it to the end

Don't have to win, just get there

[paper cobalt]

cool thanks

[sudden abyss]

@glossy wing #h2-feedback message It basically means if the enemy isn't currently Wounded, your attack/special gets +50 Power (which applies before % multipliers), then makes the enemy Wounded for 3 seconds. being Wounded itself doesn't do anything, but it counts as a Curse for the Origination arcana and several of Ares' other boons do things to Wounded enemies

[glossy wing]

Ohhhh. That makes sense.

[rare root]

why does my game take a few minutes to launch

[lapis ibex]

Im so in love with the new update damnnnn

[hazy wadi]

did they fix the bug with charon's omega special channel speed

[finite swan]

Is the surface still getting another zone after this?

[primal trench]

We might get some story zone in 1.0, but in terms of gameplay it should be final

[tired monolith]

well

and since I don't have moros, there likely goes my chances with Chronos

peak Vow of Denial moment

me ded

[hazy umbra]

rip

[shy zephyr]

wrong channel i think?

[tired monolith]

yes

was meant to be #h2-discussion

[vast oasis]

It’s designed to be way harder as far as I’m aware, even the second surface boss I find harder than Chronos 😭

[spiral plaza]

quick question, is there something special you need to do for ares to show up

I've done like 4 runs now

[chrome adder]

reach the final confrontation on the ||surface||

[spiral plaza]

thnanks

I beat ||Prometheus|| first try when the update came out and haven't been able to since

like back in October

[chrome adder]

rip

[crisp compass]

Do Chaos Gates spawn in the surface? Need Darkness to push my Arcana up 1 last time

[chrome adder]

they can spawn in the first room of ||ephyra||, and all throughout ||olympus|| but not ||thessaly|| or ||the summit||

[deft coral]

So wait do we have all the story now?

[chrome adder]

story is still incomplete, you can defeat ||the final underworld and surface bosses|| but beyond that it still just ||cuts to black and sends you back before you can proceed||

[glossy idol]

how can i make the combat more interesting? i feel like its a real slog

[turbid comet]

How so

[glossy idol]

well its just clicking on the enemies until they die. like, its tedious

[turbid comet]

What would make that non-tedious, that's kinda watering it down to "push button pixels explode". What would you prefer that isn't already there? As it stands that's not the most actionable feedback.

[glossy idol]

oh i mean im not giving feedback really i just want to play the game in a way thats more fun

i guess the main issue is it goes too fast to think about what you’re doing, so theres no tactics or anything

it sort of feels like the interesting parts of the game happen when you die, and the combat is just something you have to get through to get to those parts

okay? im asking for a way to spice this up

which is weird though because i remember liking hades

its possible i just played it too much and now im over it. or maybe my tastes changed

[chrome adder]

i know early game the enemies can feel like hp sponges you click til they die

[glossy idol]

yeah what ive been doing is restarting with a new run at each major update

[chrome adder]

it definitely gets more interesting especially once you start adding fear

[glossy idol]

? why should it

well you have to to experience the new story elements lol

? ares is here i thought

and wait you can get past olympus. thats huge

regardless, the early game should be fun. thats not an unreasonable thing to expect of a game. in my experience earlygame is usually more fun

wait why would it be tho? certainly most players are hades fans

[chrome adder]

i dont think they’re talking about progression

[glossy idol]

yeah im not sure what ur talking abt here. im just saying the combat doesnt feel good to play

whats the reason

what?

what do you mean by getting swamped

[chrome adder]

mate combat feeling mashy to new players isn’t “onboarding”

and the optimal way to play most weapons does involve combos

including staff

[glossy idol]

it just seems like a shame if i simply dislike clicking-combat now. like i doubt i would dislike every game of this genre

[chrome adder]

i think their point is that its very easy to stun lock pretty much everything by spamming m1 which is a bit of a problem

[glossy idol]

yeah lol

its also very visually busy? i can never tell whats going on

[chrome adder]

it really doesn’t at least not just by spamming base attack

[glossy idol]

what are you arguing here

[chrome adder]

visual noise is also a problem with the game yeah

[glossy idol]

um theres a lot of other more interesting stuff in the game lol

[chrome adder]

icemoo you don’t need to try and scare them off

combat is definitely more nuanced than button mashing

[glossy idol]

i mean to some degree i do find the core premise tiresome but im pretty sure it doesnt have to be this bad, as plimbo is saying

[chrome adder]

“everything you’ve been describing is hades 2”

[glossy idol]

again i remember enjoying hades 1. i have like 400 hours in it

when did i become he lmao

dumb as hell

truly the combat could simply be slower, as an accessibility setting. like in celeste

i think that would really help for learning. maybe ill put that in feedback

[cobalt rivet]

There's already a way in the game to slow down time, so I imagine that wouldn't be to hard. 🤔

[glossy idol]

well not necessarily leaving mel the same speed, just slowing everything down

so your brain can catch up with what’s happening on screen

it seems to me that some people can just see in fast motion. quick reaction time or something

[cobalt rivet]

Faster processing.

Honestly I get pretty overwhelmed too but I also find making everything on the field dead and also defeating my game driver with particle effects its fun.

[glossy idol]

im thinking of like, hollow knight, also a gamr where you click enemies until they die, but i dont ever remember feeling this way while playing it. i wonder why?

its possible its because 2d platforming movement is just more fun

honestly i think ideally hades 2 would have been a card battler. yknow like tarot theming and stuff

[paper jay]

That's a take

[glossy idol]

actually one of the big things that frustrates me about hades is i can never tell which direction im facing. like im always just hitting air and missing the enemies

thats a consequence of the isometric top down view i believe

um not really lol. the character is not really big and you cant tell in the middle of action

like, the perspective means that i click where i think makes sense but the enemy was actually slightly behind where i thought it was

especially a problem for floating enemies

…yes i know, im saying its not clear where i should input

are you not reading my messages? im saying that because the placement of an enemy on the screen varies in two dimensions, and more for floating enemies, the direction i should go is unclear

like thats just how an isometric perspective works

im not talking about missing by a lot, just missing by like a few degrees

like, the top down circle surrounding mel is not the same as the circle we see surrounding her

actually i dont really know why youd make a combat game in an isometric perspective in the first place. its an odd choice but i respect it

[paper linden]

guys this is so obviously ragebait why are we all falling for this

if yall didn't see it in the beginning you should have when "hades 2 should have been a deckbuilder roguelite" came up

[glossy idol]

why do people always say that to me here. why would this make you angry?

[weary tartan]

is it an often occurrence to have people call what your saying "ragebait"?

[glossy idol]

no, specifically my hades 2 opinions, in this server

every time i say something even mildly critical of the game people get up in arms abt it

[paper linden]

dude you tell me I'm not the one who has legions of AVGNs wrapped around my finger

[glossy idol]

huh?

what are you talking about?

[weary tartan]

huh

[glossy idol]

whats AVGN. like the youtube guy?

[weary tartan]

anyway i scrolled up and it seems like it got pretty far off the topic of them saying "hades 2 combat feels off and like a slog" which is a valid complaint tbh. if youve tried all the weapons and different builds it may just not be the game for you which sucks but sometimes thats how games are

[glossy idol]

yeah :/ but no i guess im specifically talking about the early game

im not familiar with the later game because i get disappointed when the story isnt completed lol

ultimately i may just get a mod that makes enemy hp significantly lower, so its funner and more crunchy. maybe fewer waves or smth too idk

[paper linden]

if you prefer tactics over mechanical skill (I definitely do) try CotDG

[glossy idol]

whats that

[paper linden]

Curse of the Dead Gods, a fairly challenging action roguelite with slower but more punishing combat

[glossy idol]

oh i dont really like roguelites. im just playing this game for the art and story and such

[paper linden]

it has the same isometric top down view

yeah I get it roguelites aren't for everyone

me I'm a huge roguelite head my steam collection is categorized by roguelites and non-roguelites

but also my favorite games of all time are outer wilds and disco elysium so /shrug

on a wild tangent at this point, but video games to me are the ultimate form of media - they are a wondrous culmination of film, literature, music, art, and everything in-between and that really just makes me love real passion projects that much more

when you play a perfect 10/10 video game it feels like youre peering through the makers' souls; you can really feel the spirit that's gone into creating this work of art that makes you want to scream "I see you" because on a deep primal level you feel like by wholeheartedly enjoying this masterpiece you've achieved a connection with the creators of this work

[glossy idol]

ohh i love disco liso! ive been told id like outer wilds too but i havent played it yet

[tame blade]

In this case would be better wait for 1.0

I think EA is for make improvements on gameplay, the story itself will mostly appear on 1.0

[primal trench]

^ early access is mostly gameplay, you're kinda ruining the experience if you're only here for the story

[weary tartan]

oh honestly so fair

[wanton plover]

hello based on the roadmap i'm kinda confused, around when will the next mahor update release again?

[tame blade]

Uhh three months I guess?

[wanton plover]

ohh that's pretty fast tbh? since they said they said this major update was a bit faster compared

[tame blade]

Yeah, I think that the huge part of the update's content is here

The next will add the hidden aspects, more dialogues, boons and stuff and it's it (if I didn't forget nothing)

[wanton plover]

so at least before june 24

how about the actual release, when do you think it will release? 3-4 months after the last update?

[primal trench]

Gameplay wise we are pretty much 90% done, now we only need like the other weapons, hopefully extreme measures, the rest is just the story bits

[wanton plover]

i really wanna play this game but i'm holding off because i'm more interested in the story and dialogue

[tame blade]

Being optimistic, maybe august or september

Because much of the story and the true ending will only be available in 1.0

But the main structure of the game looks almost complete

[primal trench]

Yup

[paper linden]

geez i got owned by the swear jar bot fine

EM Hecate: There's actually just 3 of her now. The whole fight. Get boned.

[primal trench]

What?

[paper linden]

i cussed and got schooled by Dyno

[primal trench]

Oh I got lost by the EM hecate comment, that's just a joke I see now

[tiny quail]

Next major update is “Spring” per roadmap 🙂

[stiff hound]

I don’t imagine we’re more than 2 major updates away from 1.0, if that. I think 2025 release is likely

[paper jay]

Spoilers in the no spoiler chat wao

[marble vortex]

wait

I thought this was THE spoiler chat, I'm so sorry

[prime igloo]

what does the "Acceptance Of Another Fate" thing do? Does it reroll the seed? Idk if I'm reading it right

oooh cinema

ah ok

only in early days, so we'll see what's the intentional way eventually or if there's any bugs with it

shame "give up" still goes to the main menu

[fallen ravine]

do you have to unlock ares or does he just appear?

[primal trench]

You have to unlock him

[fallen ravine]

ah

[vast oasis]

Bro

I hate whoever uploaded a video of the full new update with the boss in the thumbnail

[hazy umbra]

Yep people do that for views

[shy zephyr]

yeah that's how chronos's design was spoiled for me

has also happened too many times for other games

[ashen agate]

Can someone tell me without spoilers if there's actually some payoff for defeating ||the final boss on top of Olympus?||

Or Is it just the fight and everything that should come after isn't here yet?

[tame blade]

What do you mean by payoff?

[ashen agate]

Idk like zagreus seeing persephone at the end of his run, just something

[tame blade]

Ah, probably this will only come in 1.0

[ashen agate]

Sadge

[tame blade]

Same for Chronos

My guess is that we will unlock the true ending after beating him and ||Typhon|| 10 times each

[primal trench]

Any main plot progression will come with 1.0

[true thunder]

I mean they do the sme Like Hades

[lilac cobalt]

Man its difficult to judge boons in this one considering how different Mel's playstyle is. more range focued with ironically a very short range yet very effective cast.

Like. H1, oh easy, weak is good, doom is good, zeus is good on faster weps. Here all i've figured out so far is Zeus is good on cast.

[viral wharf]

I can barely make it past 3rd floor on surface

[ebon meteor]

By 3rd floor you mean region?

[hoary rock]

with the merchant, || do you guys sell anything to him? not sure what's really worth selling or keeping ||

[lilac sundial]

I've gotten most everything, but I think there is a new icon near each item that says if you may need it in the future for something so no icon=sell till you have all the prestige you need.

[hoary rock]

that's only if it's marked though correct?

the forget me not icon

i ended up getting rid of a bunch of || fish || so i can get some || moondust|| but idk if htat was a good choice lol

[lilac sundial]

No there's another one. Can I dm you to show you a Pic of what I mean?

[hoary rock]

yes plz

thank you c:

[lilac sundial]

@random apex you can still gift her things, but if you're maxed out in that relationship thing with people like all the others she will lie and say some other time and you can only rarely offer it.

[random apex]

genuinely i did not think about that fact LOL thank you

[obsidian steeple]

Guys, where is the sheet with Hades 2 speedrunners and builds???

[prime igloo]

yea, definitely hit those channels with a "don't recommend"

[urban bobcat]

You mean the 50 fear sheet?

[chrome adder]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10Ivfhuer7AyLxQXPIuvLRGigui5-Z2G-gEFk3xWBir4/edit?gid=0#gid=0

[obsidian steeple]

THIS ONE TOO

I remember there's two sheets, one with 50 fear and one that contain arcanas and etc.

But this one is great, ty

[vast junco]

Can you DM me as well?

[hazy umbra]

arcana stuff is in the intro page

[lusty blade]

y'all got any opinions on which or the umbral flames aspects is best? I never played with them much before warsong, and I started a new game when it released. I am leaning towards investing in aspect of moros right now

[chrome adder]

moros is great

[prime ginkgo]

moros is probably the strongest, tho none of them are bad, it's a fantastic weapon

[glossy idol]

ive been playing this damn game so much its making me sick its like an addiction

[green needle]

they're all good but I'd say moros is probably the best, it's incredibly strong
second best is probably eos
and then melinoe (still good though)

[chrome basin]

holy moly I slept on aspect of medea

for skull

trying to stop crutching aspect of charon and try new things and im glad i did

leftclick rightclick leftclick rightclick yahooo

[vivid flare]

Now try Than axe

[chrome basin]

dont have it yet - or do you mean moros

[vivid flare]

No, I mean the Aspect of Thanatos on the axe

[chrome basin]

yeah no still need to get it

though I did pick up possessed array without realizing how much mana it would drain

[alpine prairie]

how is it possible that the ||onion|| keepsake reads "63.02" for its remaining amount??? I can't post an image here, where should I share that?

[glacial finch]

we dont allow direct image uploads in most channels, however image embeds do work. you can upload the image anywhere you like and then paste the image link here to embed

[alpine prairie]

alright!

this is quite odd, though im not entirely certain it's a bug
||https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/994707919641772072/1343473114922749992/image.png?ex=67bd6657&is=67bc14d7&hm=9faadf205fa044110c968e3abb82b04da0299d8ef123e4e361e71f1b7be5953b&||

[sly sundial]

you caN ||SING WITH ARTEMIS||??

[primal trench]

Yes

[lime arch]

Song doesn't ever end either to my knowledge so you can just put it on in the background for nice music

[vast oasis]

Depends on what ability you focus on tbh

[wet charm]

Does anyone know of there will be a cross save for H2 to other platforms like hades 1 had cross save to switch?

👍

[thorny vigil]

hey gang, how complete is the story now with the new update? is the ||second route|| finished?

[primal trench]

Story around 20%, the second route is complete yes

[thorny vigil]

only 20% complete? wow

[primal trench]

All they done is start quests

[thorny vigil]

i thought it was a lot closer lol

[primal trench]

Obviously that % is my estimate, not actually accurate

But like there's barely any story just a lot of plot setting

[thorny vigil]

i thought there was quite a lot of story already in the previous major update actually

anyone else care to weigh in?

[primal trench]

I guess it depends on what you're considering story, like they added a new boss, and now characters are commenting on that boss, do you think that counts?

[thorny vigil]

oh ok so the upper route doesn't really tie into that?

[primal trench]

And none of them progress the story

As of now

[thorny vigil]

yeah i figured this new update might shed more light on that

i did already do all there is to do in the olympus update

[primal trench]

There is a whole new area, character commenting on the boss and whatnot if you care about that

[thorny vigil]

alright thanks

[agile rivet]

my current build is so broken, let's see how quickly I can destroy ||Chronos||

[ebon thicket]

this is the no spoiler channel might wanna spoiler tag that

[agile rivet]

thought that was a pretty obvious thing I didn't have to spoil haha, my bad

[vast oasis]

||anyone know if its possible to rescue the fates rn(just say yes or no, not how you do it)||

[soft wagon]

no

[vast oasis]

Thanks

[strange musk]

How long do you think the game will take to be finished?

[agile rivet]

results: ||1:28 for phase one, 1:16 for phase two||
I had hammer upgrade of ||psychic whirlwind for the axe|| on top of ||Nova Strike which I leveled up to lvl 14 which gave my attacks 300%+ damage|| 😂 among other boons but I think those were what made me broken (oh I could also use my ||moon hex (lunar ray)|| very quickly so spamming between attack and hex laid down a ton of damage)

[primal trench]

No one knows, maybe the end of this year, maybe next year

[vast oasis]

Early 2026 would be similar to hades 1 early access I think

[limber heart]

Where can I see this roadmap?

We're now shifting focus to our third Major Update outlined in our Roadmap. Until then, thank you for playing!

[paper jay]

In game. On steam.

[green gorge]

Orthus, just for future, please link to the patch notes instead of forwarding them

[vast oasis]

💀

[limber heart]

I thought just the selected part would be forwarded, sorry.

[limber heart]

Is there a possibility to view it outside the game?

[paper jay]

On steam.

[limber heart]

In Patch Notes updates?

[paper jay]

At the bottom of them

[limber heart]

Can you be more specific? At the bottom of the last 2 Patch Notes updates I see "Bug Fixes" and "Quote of the Patch".

[paper jay]

||https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1145350/view/512951309236699196?l=english||

Look at the bottom of this post.

[soft wagon]

also, from your game, bottom right-hand corner has a box - "coming up next." clicking that will show it to you in game

oh i'm sorry

i just scrolled up. but yeah fwiw i actually dont see a roadmap on that steam link either

[hollow condor]

I F10 about that for sevral times, but it remains the same

[white solstice]

Really love the music! Had to buy the soundtrack

[vale zealot]

I wonder why they don't include it outside the game

[hardy orbit]

i plan to return to hades 2 since EA release, should i start a new save or would i be fine continuing from my last save?

[primal trench]

both are fine choices, really up to you

[hardy orbit]

do we know how close we are to full release? 2nd half of this year?

[primal trench]

nope, we dont know, could be later this year, could be the next

[hardy orbit]

gotcha, thanks

[tame blade]

Hopefully

[paper jay]

It's unlikely at this rate

[tame blade]

Really?

[lapis cloak]

I thought we were just one update away

[paper jay]

At least 1.

[lapis cloak]

Like one next major update and then the next one after it would be 1.0

[paper jay]

There could be an extra major.

The polishing time could also take longer then expected.

Early 2026 is more likely.

[lapis cloak]

Well, However long it takes them

[tame blade]

Btw are you 🇧🇷 ?

[lapis cloak]

Yes

[tame blade]

Eu também

[lapis cloak]

salve

[shy zephyr]

i recommend continuing, most of the newly added stuff are late game content

[vivid flare]

The main additions since EA launch are all tied to progressing on the second route, so definitely just take what you have

[hardy orbit]

thanks!

[vast oasis]

They released it on EA? Supergiant what have you done

[primal trench]

this could be the case, or not, nobody knows

[tame blade]

They will make a simultaneous release for PC and Switch or will be PC and a few months later Switch?

(Supposing that the game come to Switch

[azure gull]

We don't know. I also hope for a switch version at one point but I don't remember seeing any confirmed platforms. Apparently the Wikipedia page says there are plans to bring it to consoles after EA but didn't have a link

[eager wraith]

Oh they're definitely bringing it to Switch and consoles, I think it's reasonable to expect a simultaneous release

[torpid heath]

just bought hades 2 what am i in for

[ebon thicket]

it’s the perfect game to kill Time

[torpid heath]

haha you could say that

[ebon thicket]

It’s still in early access so even if you beat the final boss there won’t be anything really story related after that (for now)

Still plenty of story content aside from that though and there was a update just last week so now is a good time to join

[torpid heath]

yeah i saw it updated recently so i got it

i played the first hades so im excited for this

[primal trench]

Just keep in mind the game is still in development, but it's already a masterpiece

[torpid heath]

i heard hades 2 already has as much content as hades 1

[primal trench]

Double, dare I say, gameplay wise

[torpid heath]

really double??

[primal trench]

Id say so yeah

[torpid heath]

oooo then im in for a treat

[vivid flare]

Yes, literally

[azure gull]

welcome back to hell 😈

[primal trench]

There's no escape

[languid sentinel]

yeah, I came to Hades II after Hades got old, and was not disappointed

(Hades didn't really get old, I just got burned out and wanted something new)

[primal trench]

Consider the olympusextra mod! Adds the missing olympians

[languid sentinel]

I'll look into that when I'm in the mood for more Hades

I am starting to miss Zagreus, and Eurycide and Sisyphus

Theseus... not as much. But I miss Asterius.

[tired monolith]

I want Hector though

[stiff hound]

A lot of dying mostly

[torpid heath]

yeah ive died a lot so far

[stiff hound]

The first game took me like 40 runs or something to beat for the first time

I think in this game it was about half that. So yeah, takes time lol

The game opens up a lot more as you keep playing so you’ll be rewarded for your persistence 100%

[fallow crescent]

I spent 3 years trying to beat hades 1

Not joking but eventually I did and it was worth it (with breaks of course)

[primal trench]

You did it, that's what matters

[fallow crescent]

I also was just not really the kind of person to use godmode but it's whatever anyone wants to do cause I rather people enjoy the story anyway

[languid sentinel]

after my 50th failure on Hades, I was tempted to enable godmode, but when I finally beat him the first time, I'm glad I didn't

[opaque helm]

i have 1100 hours in celeste, most of which has been spent playing increasingly difficult mods. i went into H1 and then H2 well prepared for Just Beating My Head Against The Wall Until It Works

[torpid silo]

cadê os br?

[halcyon flower]

I have finally started Hades 2. Death to Chronos.

[mild pilot]

🫡

good luck in killing time

[rigid pivot]

Death to chronos

[oak jungle]

Death to Chronos !

[tame blade]

☝️

[deep tusk]

Death to Chronos

[halcyon flower]

And Chronos kicked my ass...

[strange flame]

Congrats on reaching him! You’ll get him eventually. What weapons do you like the most so far?

[torpid silo]

Arma favorita?

[oak jungle]

You'll get him eventually. Keep trying, and don't forget : Death to Chronos !

[halcyon flower]

Big axe go slicey slice!

[strange flame]

Same here, that’s my favorite as well as it feels like a better sword from H1

[bronze hedge]

It's a hard fight. Learning the rhythms and flow is the key. I struggled on some bosses a LOT, but knowing is half the battle. Know what they do,a nd you will get through it.

[vast oasis]

For chronos either engage slowly when his patterns are down or just out range him

[halcyon flower]

https://tenor.com/view/holy-hera-danny-devito-hercules-hera-goatman-gif-4885818011729199178

♥️

[tame blade]

Hmm, machado/adagas

[halcyon flower]

Leaving the Crossroads like:

ahem

Ah SNAP...here we go again!

[torpid silo]

Somos dois.

[torpid silo]

[lilac sundial]

I got turned into a sheep but had air infusion so I was still doing 30 damage as a sheep. That was a good laugh.

[deft coral]

I had no idea the sheep even did damage

[languid sentinel]

it doesn't, usually, but you still have your dash ability as a sheep.

[green gorge]

unless I'm misremembering, when turned into sheep you can still do damage, its like 5 but its still more than 0

[lilac sundial]

I've smashed trees as the sheep too to kill the witches and hecate will comment saying something like "really?" .

[weary tartan]

you can both attack and dash as a sheep

[languid sentinel]

I've killed all 5 witches as a sheep while using ||Hitch|| sprint

Hecate was impressed, but not amused

[halcyon flower]

||Welp...I got to Chronos's second stage and he one shotted me for 999 damage||

[languid sentinel]

yeah, that happens

you learn to avoid it

[paper linden]

and then you start getting complacent and forget, then have to learn again

[ebon thicket]

||i kept losing to that becasue i got caught in the stun bubbles from the hourglass enemies three times in a row on 16 fear ||

[sacred imp]

Whats the name of the song called when ||you find Artemis singing in the crossroads||? Can i find it on Youtube?

Also, is there a version of ||Coral Crown with all 3 sirens||?

[languid sentinel]

Moonlight Guide Us

[raven dove]

I started day 1early access and put 30 hours in before I stopped bc i didn't like some things, should I start fresh file?

[weary tartan]

probably, lots has changed

[tiny stump]

oh, starting a fresh file is something I haven't thought of

I stopped playing when I saw that the art for ||Hecate|| was still an unfinished sketch

Think I may do the same

[weary tartan]

how long ago was that

[vivid flare]

On one hand, there's been a lot of changes. On the other, all the major additions have been to the second route, so if you got that far, you might as well keep the file you have

[vivid flare]

There was a time when she had beta art?

[silent stone]

Can melinoe also || steal charon's gold? ||

[opaque helm]

||not currently, who knows what might come later though||

[vivid flare]

She doesn't seem like the type to attempt it

[primal trench]

Nah

[silent stone]

True that but maybe she might take after her brother if she ||somehow puts them out of stasis if that ever happens||

[vast oasis]

Hecate design is finished now no?

This must’ve been like May or something

[tiny stump]

Yeah it was probably June of last year

[primal trench]

Am I tripping? Was hecate design not complete on release?

[vivid flare]

Could've sworn that the only NPCs with beta art on EA release were the second route's NPCs, and the NPCs in the third and fourth regions of the first route

[primal trench]

Haelians first video on release, hecate seems pretty complete
https://youtu.be/w01bV-V3uYU?si=GId4h61nQMz2X4js

Full art and everything

[vivid flare]

Did you mean one of the other witches? ||Medea||, perhaps?

[primal trench]

Both ||medea and circe|| had beta art yes

Hecate was always finished

[rose wagon]

Will h2 ever come to ps5??? I NEEED ITTTTT

[quaint fox]

we won't know for sure until the game fully comes out

[tame blade]

Probably

Let's wait for official announcements

[shy zephyr]

h1 had console releases so you can count on it, but it will not be coming out until 1.0 at the least

[primal trench]

Blame Sony (and consoles in general) for being so damn strict with updates

[turbid comet]

That's entirely unrelated to news that hasn't been announced. Folks will announce things when relevant.

[north bluff]

||I GOT TO THE MONSTROUS TYPHON OMGGGGGGGG (i didnt kill him tho)||

[white spruce]

yo me too! (and me too!)

[neat turtle]

Is the storyline of the game fully complete in the current version? (I haven't played yet, waiting for the narrative experience to be as close to finished as possible, even though I am aware of that message that Hades 2 in Early Access has a ton of content already, comparable to Hades 1. But for me the narrative part is important.)

[chrome adder]

it ends after the final boss- compared to hades 1 you can get to the equivalent of hades but couldn’t go to persephone’s cottage

[weary tartan]

there are no narrative conclusions yet

[neat turtle]

Okay, thanks for the info! I'll hold out a bit more then. I'm sure they're cooking something nice.

[shy zephyr]

the point of the early access is mostly to get gameplay feedback for boon and weapon balancing, most of the story will be added at 1.0

[ocean inlet]

I am truly dissapointed that the wiki does redirect ZOOS to Zeus, tsk tsk

[oak jungle]

ZOOOOOOOS

[ocean inlet]

EXACTLY

Just like the sheild with the aspect of ZOOS

[oak jungle]

We love ZOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS

[ocean inlet]

I wouldn't say love, but his name is funny

[wind oak]

Maybe this is a dumb question to ask but, Is the contents in Hades 2 RN a LOT shorter than the contents in Hades 1?

[shy zephyr]

story wise yes
gameplay wise there's already around x2 that of h1

[wind oak]

Oh damn

[shy zephyr]

the majority of the story will be added in 1.0 launch

[vast oasis]

Similar content wise but hades 1 is significantly more polished

[clear salmon]

Tbh I'd say the boons this update are considerably more balanced than Hades 1

[vast oasis]

True

But balance isn’t always fun

[silent coyote]

Do we have a idea for a update timeline/how much more is wanted for V 1.0?

[shy zephyr]

there is either 1 or 2 big updates left, then it'll be 1.0
it will launch late 2025 or early 2026

[silent coyote]

Thanks, just at that stage of when do I play?

I came in After V1.0 for Hades 1

[scenic arrow]

I think on average, the boons are more useful compared to those in Hades 1

[primal trench]

If you've waited this long, just keep waiting

[silent coyote]

I've hit a few spoilers, but most of those are "unavoidable" ones when active online
The one video essay from 5 months ago with no spoiler warning though...

[primal trench]

it is what it is

if your major focus is the story, wait. if its gameplay, get it

[shy zephyr]

mfs who put spoilers on youtube thumbnails deserve to be tied up and forced to watch 3 hours of "family guy funny moments #23"

[urban bobcat]

That’s me, I did that

[silent coyote]

Wasn't even the thumbnail, looking back it's not even in the video. So either they removed that part or it was the comments going "Hades 2 does what you talked about"
That or it was a short...

[vast oasis]

Quit the game and making videos and lock yourself in a cave with no internet access

[urban bobcat]

I made the thumbnail not the video

[vast oasis]

Exactly

Thumbnail spoilers deserve capital punishment

[primal trench]

Even worse

[urban bobcat]

I'll admit, when I first bought the game I "Don't reccomend this channel"'d Haelian to make sure I didn't see any spoilers and I still haven't figured out how to undo that

[scenic arrow]

lolll

I think you just watch some of his stuff and it'll just get re algorithm'd

[silent coyote]

Yep, just got a YT Short of a conversation...

[scenic arrow]

A what?

[brittle nymph]

youtube short

[tame blade]

Of a conversation

[vast oasis]

Haelians decent with no thumbnail spoilers I think

Just don’t click and u are good

[urban bobcat]

This was when everything in the game was spoilers

[vast oasis]

Ah

[grand nest]

Mel being able to sprint isnt a spoiler... Is it?

imagine

[urban bobcat]

It isn’t only because I watched the entire technical test live as it was streamed