h2-for-new-players

[vagrant whale]

Once you unlock the ability to give treats you can give one to it the next time you see one

[peak lily]

omg i want that one but it never apeared a second time

[vagrant whale]

It takes a while to show up again sometimes

[peak lily]

maybe theres some requirement who knows

[naive stump]

||if you mean it doesn't show in the fountain room anymore, try exploring somewhere else||

[slim steeple]

||For what reason does it skip the kraken boss fight when going up i went from cyclops on the ship to circe island then strife skipped the kraken||

[naive stump]

||luck, chary is the miniboss of the area and sometimes you just don't find them||

[slim steeple]

Oh its not a proper boss?

[naive stump]

Nope ||eris is the boss of the biome||

[slim steeple]

||So if thats the case it means theres two more bosses and areas to come ??||

[chrome adder]

yep

[gusty dragon]

that mini boss in ||fields of mourning|| kicked my butt

[chrome adder]

hate to be “that guy” but everything past erebus needs to be spoiler tagged here including region names

[gusty dragon]

my b! will do now

[chrome adder]

ty!

[gusty dragon]

where do you find ||beasts?|| the one in erberus wasn't there last time i went

[naive stump]

||if you mean cat, up||

[gusty dragon]

dang. where are the others?

[naive stump]

||||

[vagrant finch]

||The only two for now are cat and frog. If you are referring to the dog and polecat, those are hecate's familiars, and mel cant get them||

[gusty dragon]

where is ||the frog?||

ALSO OH MY GOD ||HERACLES IS SO HOT||

[vagrant finch]

||In the tent, your pet frog||

[gusty dragon]

right lol

[mossy kettle]

Awww I was looking forward to getting the dog
He was hanging out by that "open space" for a while at the beginning of the game & thought they'd be an option for a familiar once the game fully released

[potent badge]

not impossible but ||Hecate’s pretty protective of them||

[dusk seal]

I'd love a polecat. Maybe a fox?

[weary tartan]

id cry (tears of joy) if there were a fox companion

[green needle]

seal companion

[dusk seal]

SAME! 🦊

[soft jasper]

how far is the early access for Hades II right know, is it still really early or like almost finished with the game?

[soft jasper]

nvm there is literally a current EA state description in the storepage im blind

[onyx stratus]

is it possible to complete ||the "Melinoe Help Us" prophecy|| at the moment?

[valid path]

Not as far as i know

[vagrant finch]

It isnt possible in early access

[onyx stratus]

dang

is there a list of stuff like that? things that are only half-implemented so far?

[vagrant finch]

I cant think of anything major other than that prophecy, but you can expect most major story stuff to not be accesible yet due to it being early access

[onyx stratus]

kk gotcha!

[edgy isle]

yeah basically everything else you can do ingame is obviously incomplete(art/ending a run with instant death etc)

only other thing i can think of is a certain incantation with ????? requirements which... should be obvious too i would thing

[onyx stratus]

yeah that one was obvious :P

thankfully there's like a billion other goals to work towards! the amount of content already is impressive

[vagrant finch]

yeah its crazy

[strange musk]

When console

[blazing wadi]

the game will be on console likely when it gets to the end of early access
considering we dont know when the next update is we have no idea when the full release will be

[supple heath]

Hecate’s companion is a polecat so don’t think Mel will get that

[dusk seal]

How long are they planning to have EA last? I'm having a blast.

[turbid comet]

I think at least until the end of the year-ish

[soft jasper]

does some of the art blurry (thinking since its ea) or is it just me, is it a bug?

[elfin swift]

i think the finished portraits shouldnt be? but there are some protraits that are sketches and i think(??) a few overworld models that arent finished (the cats grass looks like a sketch to me)

[urban ruin]

THEY NEED TO ADD A PET CAT FEATURE AFTER FINISHING ENCOUNTER

[dense star]

Hi! So about the book of shadows, not super spoilery but possibly mechanic spoilers, but I dont want to go into the other channels until im further in the story ||I'm 60 nights in and have gotten pretty far but I still don't have the incantation that adds hearts to the book and I just want to know what I need to do to trigger it, I've been using bath salts and ambrosia with characters and tracking would be so helpful||

[autumn rock]

You need to ||give a nectar to basically every character||, I believe

Which includes ||the four friendly NPCs who are unique to topside||, notably

[dense star]

Ahhhhh yeah that would do it ||I'm not sure I've given nectar to all the gods yet either|| thankyou!!!!

[autumn rock]

Pretty sure ||all the gods|| are definitely necessary so that'd be a good start 😄

I'm not absolutely sure if anyone isn't needed? It might be ||the people back at the Crossroads|| who aren't, if anyone

[naive stump]

||the gods in specific are also needed for the boon list incantation||

[elfin crescent]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1200122238880448593/1275806020307914853/Edge_of_Erebus_bassline.mp4?ex=66c73a72&is=66c5e8f2&hm=cba987233564306947d3daba1b9194097c5eabc74be4f45cb1a0bed2361698ae& Bassline appreciation post

Darren Korb cooked again I'm never getting enough of this soundtrack

[dire vapor]

how does life tax work

[raven escarp]

you get 1% life steal and heal up to 100 health

just imagine it as a 100 healing with extra step

[dire vapor]

oh okay sauce

[upper swan]

Is life tax good? I usually just get less reinforces

[coral cave]

depends, obviously you don't need it if you are on full hp and feel that you won't lose that much in tartarus
it is still a neat defensive option, as it basically gives you 100 more effective hp

[vast oasis]

Guys I am already planning on getting it tommorow but can someone rate it out of 10

[chrome adder]

8.5-9 for me but i am very biased

[chrome adder]

def worth it for me

[elfin crescent]

Solid 11 the game's actual peak

[raven escarp]

it's a 1 out of ||1|| for sure

[cobalt rivet]

I want a ||piggy or a goat|| companion.

[foggy hull]

in its current state probs a 7, there’s a lot of missing story content rn and etc so if u play for that you’d probs feel it lacking lol. Gameplay alone is probs 8.5

[latent cradle]

A ||dinosaur🔥|| will be cool

[copper jetty]

I give it if you loved the first game you're gonna love this one out of 10

[neon vigil]

an 8 in its current state and probably a 9 or 10 when its done

[foggy hull]

I loved the first game for the story tbh so I feel like id appreciate H2 more after its complete

[toxic crow]

I cannot get "I Am Gonna Crawl (Out Your Eyes Then Drown You to Death)" out of my head

My fav boss fight for that song alone

[raven escarp]

I am gonna 🔥claw out your eyes, and🔥 drown you to death🔥

[harsh depot]

LOUDER FOR THE PPL IN THE BACK 🗣️

[winter shard]

has anyone made a like gif or like animation of her saying “that little dress look like it’s from the garbageeeee” and arachne taking personal bc mel is wearing her dress? this is has been stuck in my head for daysssss

[sour nacelle]

What is “erebus”

Do I have to spoiler tag literally the second biome of the game

[plucky aurora]

Erebus is the first biome.

[chrome adder]

yep

[blazing crypt]

||i’m pretty sure it’s also the place where all the recently deceased ppl go first before going to the rest of the underworld, hence why melione starts there first|| 🙏

[eternal fulcrum]

its funny how people's definition of a no spoiler channel is a place where u spam spoiler filter....

[vagrant whale]

It's mostly because people ask questions where the answer is considered a spoiler of some kind

[sly pumice]

To me, the idea of a no spoilers discussion space is so fundamentally weird. If I don't want anything spoiled about a single player game, I'll just go in blind and not engage with the community at all until I'm done with the story

[upper sapphire]

I agree with this. Once the major update drops later, i'm going full radio silent and staying off the discord until i'm satisfied in order to avoid spoilers.

[vagrant finch]

I think its for mechanics questions (like how a certain move or boon works) that they might be really confused about and need assistance understanding without accidentally getting spoiled by other conversations

A lot of people like learning that themselves (including me) but some people just want specifics ya know?

[median harbor]

i just found out that eris also appears in tartarus if you manage to get in there too early

[sly pumice]

She can appear in any region past Erebus if you get there early

[median harbor]

fr?? i thought it was only on the ocean part and on tartarus🥲

[sturdy wharf]

I believe this is what they call "waking up extra early to have more time to be a hater"

[little pecan]

she prolly just stays awake 24/7 to be a hater if anything

[median harbor]

LMAO

[mossy quarry]

Should I beat the final boss once of the "down path" before doing the "up path?"

[lavish narwhal]

The choice is yours, young one

[sacred sluice]

Basement is a bit more complete than Attic but it's up to you

[glad nacelle]

how much of the story is still missing?

[stiff hawk]

Hard to say, but not a small amount.

There's another biome waiting to be implemented into the game, plus a lot of stories in the game itself still need ending.

[dense swift]

what he said but 2 biomes are missing, and also theres gonna be another weapon iirc

[vagrant whale]

It’s not confirmed whether it’s 1 or 2 biomes missing. Could be either.

And yes, we’re getting another weapon

[dense swift]

I mean sure but after fighting the last boss of the second biome you're at the shore line of mount olympus, i doubt we just go all the way up like that in one biome.. 3rd biome will probably be the trail up to olympus and the last biome will then be olympus itself, also every path that we've seen so far in the hades games has had 4 biomes so.. it just wouldnt make sense

[vagrant whale]

The surface has already broken several standards of the underworld, I don’t see why it wouldn’t do it again for the 3rd biome. I feel like you could have the trail up be the biome & the top is where the boss is

[dense swift]

Nah the top of olympus is simply too grand to just be a boss arena but I suppose we'll see

[little pecan]

it was a great boss arena in god of war

[vagrant finch]

it actually is, in the game informer interview

[vagrant whale]

Oh, never saw that. Thanks for letting me know!

[vagrant finch]

no worries! its a fairly obscure source 😅

[vagrant whale]

Is it supposed to be 1 or 2 then?

[vagrant finch]

2 left

the assumption is the cliff face and then olympus itself

but nobody knows for sure obviously

[vagrant whale]

Gotcha. The “coming up next” section in the game made me think it was just one

[vagrant finch]

yeah stuff could definitely be clearer but theyre probably keeping it vague on purpose

[mossy quarry]

There’s also that door in the Crossroads

[naive stump]

||if you mean near moros, that's the fishing pier||

[mossy quarry]

…

You know I am actually kind of stupid

[dense swift]

Don't worry man I thought it was some big thing too 😂

[brave rune]

Why is Apollo/Poseidon duo boon called Beach Ball? I remember there were some discussion along the lines of "[Supergiant] knows what they did" or "They did Apollo dirty" because of this name, is there a Greek myth related to it? I search for Apollo Beach Ball online and didn't find anything.

[autumn rock]

...? I've heard no such discussion of this duo - I had just assumed, sun + sea = beach

[brave rune]

I think it was some comments on reddit, I wanted to ask this question a long time ago and forgot. Maybe it really is as simple as a joke name but it does feel rather specific when other name are more elegant like Glorious Disaster or Boreal Gust.

[autumn rock]

Apollo and Poseidon are both kinda chill guys (in this game), compared to most of the gods

It probably wouldn't feel fitting for them to have a super fancy duo name 🙂

Are you sure you're not thinking of the entirely unrelated Aphro/Heph duo Love Handles?

[vagrant whale]

Only Apollo-related thing that comes to mind with beach ball is his ball of prophecy or something

[sturdy wharf]

gruhg

[stiff hawk]

"Hey Uncle, can you help me out with something? I'm going to prank a mortal."

"HA HA, YESSS"

[tender pier]

I am replaying Hades1 before playing H2 early access. Is there a good cutoff point to aim for before giving H2 a try?
I played the H2 alpha test and have just recently beaten Redacted in my H1 replay.

[chrome adder]

i’d aim for getting all 10 wins and seeing the credits

[tender pier]

Any need to go as far as the epilogue?

[chrome adder]

eh that’s mostly just grinding a bunch of ambrosia

[tender pier]

I couldn't remember if there was substantial story related post-credit content going the other epilogue.

[chrome adder]

not really it’s just all the olympians learn about persephone and are chill about it and that’s it

[tender pier]

Gotcha, thanks

[chrome adder]

no problem

[autumn rock]

Very much not substantial - which is probably intentional now that I think about it, so people who don't bother with the grind don't miss too much 😄

[loud frigate]

Can someone tell me be answering yes or not, if the quest of saving the three fates in the list of minor prophecies is doable or not yet

[green gorge]

it is not

[loud frigate]

Thanks !

[lost token]

ngl

lowkey surprised hades isnt on playstore.

its not exactly a very demanding game.

[chrome basin]

??? it would need to be remade for android

[upper swan]

It would have to be remade for a different engine right? And the controls wouldnt work. And its a $25 game, i dont think many would buy it.

[lost token]

Ur kinda underestimating the mobile msrket

Tho tbf it would have a hard time with a 25$ price

Deadcells did it

For 8$

[green gorge]

Very important to note dead cells mobile port was not done in house but by playdigious so Motion Twin don't have anything to do with the customer support side of things (highly likely even the development too)

@lost token

[elfin swift]

hades might have a shot under apple or google's subscription but idk if itd be worth the money to port. i love hades ofc but doesnt mean its the right market niche for it rn

[half patrol]

it kinda is but not completely, only hades 1 is on mobile and you need a netflix subscription to play it

[vagrant finch]

The Netflix version isn’t for android I believe

[naive stump]

Correct

[urban bobcat]

And it’s streaming pretty sure? Also I have a friend who played it on their phone and had their save data lost multiple times

[urban bobcat]

I wonder why 😭 it isn’t running locally right??

[night bramble]

Can i ask, if hades 2 has an ending? Without spoliers ofc

[autumn rock]

The story very much doesn't have an ending yet

Wouldn't expect it to until 1.0

[night bramble]

Ah pool

[night bramble]

And when it will be?

Is there a tentative date?

O okay i found information

Thank you anyway

[bright coyote]

uh is there a release date for next update?

[dreamy cargo]

Nop, just the "Q4 of this year"

[sly pumice]

Yes it's tomorrow

[heady nacelle]

I’m from the future and can say definitely:

no

Time for supergiant to drop an update anyways

[ancient turtle]

Good luck killing time

[bright coyote]

im going crazy.. need more... hades...

[alpine jacinth]

so within the next 3 months

[dreamy cargo]

anymoment now even

[alpine jacinth]

i very much hope so

[royal condor]

https://tenor.com/view/tf2-soldier-heavy-any-second-now-gif-12465896910554458717

[lost token]

havent played

in like. 1 week. maybe 2 weeks? i maxxed out my arcana and now im just grinding keepsakes.

feel like itd take me just 1 day to get up to speed and start beating ass again

[arctic sequoia]

So real, haven't played for two months straight since the last patch 🥲

[sand void]

same 😅

[frozen cave]

Just bought hades II last night and made it to the last boss today… everything is so good, the music in the second biome the boss fight in the third. I can’t wait for full release

[sand void]

it is amazing, I can't wait for more 😄

[dusk vector]

The game good

[slim torrent]

So how can I give devolopers feedback or report any issue?

[naive stump]

Feedback you get the role from #server-roles then post in #h2-feedback (and follow the bot instructions )

For bug reports hit f10 in game, or post in #h2-tech-support if you are on steam deck and navigating is too difficult

[green gorge]

make sure to read the feedback guidelines pinned in #h2-feedback

[slim torrent]

Thanks 👍

[naive stump]

Aren't they the same that sticky bot posts

[green gorge]

yes, but people tend to ignore it 😔

(also please point people to the feedback guidelines instead of directing them directly to the role. We want people to read the guidelines )

[naive stump]

Got it, thought telling them to follow the rest of the bot message made sense but yeah I can see the issue

[wild glacier]

So I got as far as I would like to get in Hades II. I want to save some game for later, so I just rebought Hades on PC and am working my way through that in the meantime. Really scratches that itch

[vast oasis]

Think I’m going to hold off on buying this till 1.0 for the full experience

Is this a good idea

[timber sleet]

i don't think there's any reasonable argument for why holding off 'til 1.0 is a bad idea. It's gonna get you the best experience. This is true of basically all early access titles. Only buy it before 1.0 if you are impatient, or wanting to play things while friends are playing it too/still talking about it

right now there's also some things missing from the game that makes the game distinctly unfinished, so I would absolutely say that it's good to at least wait for the next large patch even if you get impatient

[vast oasis]

They added so much stuff in early access 1.0 gon look like a minor update 😭

[timber sleet]

Fair but yeah, the game is good and fun to play, but the full experience isn't there right now. a lot of individual elements are there, and a lot of the gameplay is tight, but the story doesn't come together the way it did in h1 due to being unfinished, and that means a lot of the narrative mechanics and stuff feel less part of a greater whole. definitely wait if you're not feeling impatient

[ashen remnant]

I've been playing for 45 hours and I've kind of been reaching the ends of new content besides doing repeat runs for resources and upgrades/achievements. I definitely do think it'd be a good idea to wait for the full release if you aren't crazy on grinding runs . I guess it depends on the pace of how you play though.

[vast oasis]

Yeah I’ll stick to other stuff for jow

I don’t want a splintered playthrough

[granite aspen]

price could increase with full release lol

[vast oasis]

Supergiant doesn’t seem like the type of company to do that

But I might just buy it beforehand

[solar fractal]

iirc the price of hades 1 increased at some point

not by a lot, but a lot of content was added to it, especially considering where it started in early access

[vast oasis]

Justified

Especially since the final price was only like 25

[naive stump]

@turbid sun bugs should be reported in game by pressing f10

[turbid sun]

ah thank you I didn't know that

[green gorge]

hades 1 ea went on sale for a period when it came to steam. The base price between EA and 1.0 never increased however

[stiff hawk]

Yeah, I think it was always $25.

[solar fractal]

https://www.supergiantgames.com/blog/hades-pricing-and-the-epic-mega-sale/
It increased pretty early on

[tawdry sage]

bro i got hades 2 just 2 days ago

and this game hits harddddddddddd

[olive flower]

RIGHT, ITS SO GOOD

[chrome adder]

hades two my beloved

[jade flame]

I just wanted to say that I LOVE HADES 1 AND HADES 2 SO MUCH!!!!

[winged prawn]

Hi everyone! I’m glad there’s a no spoilers chat about H2. I’m holding off until 1.0 but from the gameplay showcase earlier in the year it looks like the mechanics got more complex.

For those who played both, how much more complex is the combat or technicality?

[astral beacon]

I definitely feel like H2 is more complex, but it's nothing too crazy

[edgy isle]

more and less. It has a lot less emphasis on dodging/dashing and the cast button is an actual viable key to press before and after you get a cast boon on literally every single run. So overall i would lean toward more complex but similar in many respects

[urban bobcat]

More focused on AOE attacks and hoards of enemies

[steep gazelle]

2 of them hits f

so good bro

[chrome adder]

hades too

[vagrant finch]

hades as well

[severe marsh]

I always use cast in hades 1, even for builds with no cast boon to speak of, just to get the boiling blood bonus.

[sturdy wharf]

hades also

[solar fractal]

hades included

[vagrant finch]

Hades additionally

[whole cradle]

Furthermore, Hades

[solemn fox]

Conclusively, Hades

[vagrant finch]

All in all, Hades

[chrome adder]

In summary, Hades

[foggy pine]

with all that being said, Hades

[placid geyser]

In total hades

[verbal iron]

In conclusion, Hades

[gleaming bough]

On a side note, Hades

[placid geyser]

The final result, Hades

[placid geyser]

The total and absolute conclusion, Hades

[chrome adder]

what have i done

[placid geyser]

Delete you messages, your gonna ruin the chain

[chrome adder]

eh the joke’s a bit dead

[placid geyser]

Dang

[ripe flame]

He sad.

[bronze mantle]

done have what you

[turbid comet]

https://tenor.com/HZMJ.gif

[whole cradle]

in summation, Hades

[digital falcon]

In the inevitable heat death of the universe, hades

[gleaming bough]

But, due to the circumstances, Hades

[severe marsh]

Summarily, I do pronounce Hades

[somber lagoon]

With the power vested in me I hereby proclaim, Hades

[placid geyser]

In our final statement, Hades

[scenic dock]

anyway, hades

[frank fox]

In addendum, Hades

[wanton rampart]

For your consideration, Hades

[scenic dock]

this has gotten entirely too silly, but still, hades

[manic hill]

Can’t believe I have to say this but, Hades

[wheat adder]

As per my last email, Hades

[placid geyser]

For this time and time once more must go on, Hades

[ornate bloom]

We regret to inform you that Hades

[placid geyser]

We DO NOT regret to inform you, Hades

[frank fox]

We inform you that Hades

[wheat adder]

To whom it may concern, Hades

[wanton rampart]

In response to your previous messages, Hades

[whole cradle]

Unfortunately, Hades

[sand void]

仕方がない, Hades

(Shikata ga nai, Hades)

[foggy pine]

When all else fails, Hades

[hazy umbra]

For all intents and purposes, Hades

[scenic dock]

somehow, hades

[manic hill]

Believe it or not but, Hades

[frank yacht]

Oops! All Hades

[severe marsh]

Petition to rename this channel to more accurately reflect the current state of things, all the more, hades

[scenic dock]

h2-no-hades2-just-hades

[gleaming bough]

After all the years passing by your head in, watching as the kingdom you once had rule over being usurped by the man you killed all those centuries back, welcome to your new housing, Hades.

[chrome adder]

what have you done to my hades too

[ashen remnant]

hades, the squeakquel

[gleaming bough]

Yet again, Hades

[whole cradle]

Once more, Hades

[chrome adder]

For an indefinite anount of time, Hades

[gleaming bough]

Continually, Hades

[whole cradle]

Happily, Hades

[gleaming bough]

In this world, it's safer to do the one block jump for the Hades instead of risking it for the Hades.

[placid geyser]

Thankfully once more, HADES

[scenic dock]

it keeps happening, hades

[gleaming bough]

Yet again, Hades

[wanton rampart]

And thus, Hades

[glossy jetty]

Alas, Hades

[alpine jacinth]

brainrot

[gleaming bough]

Due to the effects of brainrot, Hades

[frank yacht]

Despite everything, it's still Hades

[manic hill]

After all this time it’s still, Hades

[wanton rampart]

Return to Hades

[placid geyser]

Hades is now Hades ll

[whole cradle]

Silently, Hades

[wanton rampart]

Proudly, Hades

[chrome adder]

Boisterously, Hades

[stiff hawk]

Bophades.

[placid geyser]

Not really, But at the end of the universe, Hades

[whole cradle]

So, Hades

[chrome adder]

Hear me out, hades

[vagrant finch]

Just hades

[chrome adder]

but what if i said hades

[wanton rampart]

Consider, Hades

[gleaming bough]

Maybe, and this is a maybe, Hades.

[foggy pine]

Roses are red,
Violets are blue,
Hades

[gleaming bough]

What did on ocean say to the other?
Hades.

[turbid comet]

https://tenor.com/boHf5.gif

[gleaming bough]

Hades.

[turbid comet]

BK Royal Crispy Wraps, get 'em as a meal or get 'em as a snack

[chrome adder]

But what about Hades

[gleaming bough]

This is Hades.

[scenic dock]

the ride never ends, hades

[fiery canyon]

With all due respect, Hades

[olive flower]

[insert something here], comma Hades, King of the Dead, God of the Underworld, [more titles] yadayada, [more funny] Hades

[frank yacht]

The One Hades! The One Hades is real!

[gleaming bough]

Can we get much Hades?

[frank fox]

Hades but moreso

[chrome adder]

indubitably, hades

[scenic dock]

hades and hades and hades hades

[bronze mantle]

ha-these

[frank fox]

Hey deez

[somber lagoon]

Hear thee Hades

[ripe flame]

Hades ... nuts.

[verbal iron]

Hades

[lone wagon]

so does anyone know for sure if patch 5 is going to be the last one before 1.0 and if it is coming before december?

[whole cradle]

it's not, there'll be more Major Updates coming, it's coming before the end of the year but it makes sense to come before december due to holiday reasons

[edgy isle]

We should get at least 1 more big patch after this one

as long as they don't do a funny and shadow drop 2 regions at once, as the roadmap said to only expect region 3 overworld.

and even that could not make it since they said some stuff could be pushed back etc

Would be pretty bad if after 3 months we only got crossroad cosmetics + some finalized art though

[vagrant finch]

they said the biome is the most likely to be added out of everything on the roadmap

[tranquil cliff]

there may be 2 more after this one, i suppose. and hades was on EA almost two years so it definitely could be

[edgy isle]

They also said that H2 is closer to being 1.0 than the steam release of EA hades was though. So it should be MUCH shorter

I expect summer/fall 2025 personally, which would be 2-3 more updates including the 1.0 patch

[tranquil cliff]

i agree. they have exp from the first one, so some things can be done waaay faster

[ancient tusk]

👀 TIME TO PLAAAY

[thick lintel]

is it worth buying hades 2 rn?

[ancient tusk]

well, when I get out of work

[ancient tusk]

I definitely don't regret it and I haven't tested the update yet lol

[sudden abyss]

😭 Game crashing on start now.

[paper horizon]

have fun with the update people

[torn jewel]

im deadass just gonna start a new savefile

[paper horizon]

ik i will be having fun

[slate lark]

same lol

[languid gate]

is the update out yet?

[torn jewel]

i was like 95% complete with the previous one anyways

im gonna enjoy this

[sudden abyss]

😢 Keep getting crash notice whenever I try to launch. 🪦

[lilac sundial]

downloading it now on steam

[silver valve]

Yep Crashing

[ancient tusk]

have you tried turning it off and on again? (try rebooting your computer)

[thick lintel]

anyone know if hades 2 is supported on steamdeck?

[vestal breach]

Hey @sudden abyss and @silver valve - If the crashes are persistent, could you provide more details in #h2-tech-support ?

[silver valve]

Nope. Only need to create new save, load it and after this load old save

And crashed disapears

[sudden abyss]

Sure, I can screenshot. I wasn't since the crash message says the info is automatically transmitted, but I can yeah, sec

[lilac sundial]

working for me

[errant zenith]

question

for the new content, including the extended substories for ||Echo and Narcissus||, ||Dora||, etc, do I need to start completely over??

[stiff hound]

im so excited guys

ive been looking forawrd to this for so long

[errant zenith]

like this is the first major update since I bought the game so idk how much I will need to do, especially since I cleared ||both underworld and surface|| several times

[stiff hound]

what is plasma? i have 12 of them but i dont remember ever having something like that lol

[sudden abyss]

ore from chaos's realm

[floral crypt]

OUGHH one more class and i can dive in

[lilac sundial]

doesn't look like it, I've talked to Dora some

[short compass]

update trailer looks dope

[scenic dock]

can't speak for SD in particular but I've had no issues playing on fedora so it's probably fine there too

[edgy isle]

Steam deck worked perfectly fine on release for me, cannot speak for the new patch but it should still work as is see no reason for it not to. Flawless running as well

I did need to personally rebind cast i believe since it felt weird for me, but that could just be a me thing

[scenic dock]

it's weird seeing actual discussion here and not the "something something hades" of the last few days

[thin spindle]

I just beat ||Scylla on my first run-in with her|| on a new savefile, while ||Eris-cursed||, next time I'm here ||she immediately writes I'm gonna claw out your eyes||... I must've made them really mad :D

[chrome adder]

you should uhh probably tag that stuff past erebus

[harsh aspen]

dude I cannot wait for the 1.0 release

new update looks crazy

is there any vision on how many major updates bfr 1.0?

[crystal lantern]

What's up guys. Something has changed with the testament system? I'm not seeing marked foes after the update? Anyone else?

I have over 500 hours in the game

[neon creek]

finish a run of the new area

[crystal lantern]

Thank you I was thinking it may be that way. I didn't have the time to dive in yet. Soon though! Cheers 👑

[bold wigeon]

i'm having a blast, loving each second

[vocal path]

how's the new weapon?

[lilac sundial]

awesome, its like the fists in H1 but better, might be my fav now, but gotta get past the honeymoon phase first

[elfin swift]

no spoilers but where do i get the mats for the new weapon?

[foggy hare]

new area

[vital moth]

seems like people are liking the new weapon and it's good which is nice
wish it wasn't ugly so i'd be more motivated to obtain it

[turbid comet]

I think it looks cool but I don't have the mats for it just yet. Been loving the music in the new area.

[coarse spruce]

been a while sinnce i chatted here

[turbid comet]

Welcome back

[mossy quarry]

Does anyone know how to unlock the music stuff

[shy wing]

Just started a new run and crashed on first boss, quite amazing

I GET A CRASH NOTICE BUT GAME WORKS FINE???

[elfin swift]

Arghh i said i wasn't impatient and was willing to wait if an upcoming patch is fixing the bug in my game but i want to play!!!!!

[scenic dock]

doesn't qualify as feedback but i was surprised and impressed that the light bar on my dualshock lights up with the gods' colors when i pick up boons, i haven't seen a PC game do that before

[elfin swift]

Oh what.. Let me check that next time.

My controller is like.. Fully in my lap its not even within my range of vision

[scenic dock]

like i was just happy to see the right face button icons, i 100% didn't expect the color to change

[elfin swift]

Oh god every game having xbox controls onscreen is SOOO annoying i hate it

[scenic dock]

suppose it's my fault for wanting a controller with a good d-pad 🙃

[urban bobcat]

Tips for finding ||the new familiars?|| I’ve met them both once just wanna know if I should be looking for them on the surface or underground

[elfin swift]

||one was underground the other was on the surface||

[hazy relic]

||both are underground though ||

or atleast for me

[elfin swift]

I could be wrong.. Its been a day

[naive stump]

Yeah is ||down X2||

[urban bobcat]

Met ||dog|| twice underground and ||bird|| once underground

[prisma mist]

After Dora's comments about ||Prometheus|| is has become SOOOO obvious who she was while alive. I'm thoroughly disappointed of myself for not making the connection from just her name

[junior grove]

Need some guidance for this cause I'm smooth-brained ||Chaos|| keeps mentioning that there's a || pitch black standing stone I need to activate || assumedly in the Crossroads, but I don't see it. Is it something in the cauldron I need to do, or am I just blind?

[abstract lava]

it's in the entryway, just past the Altar of Ash. Might need cauldron, I don't remember

[severe marsh]

Yes there is an incantation

[zenith torrent]

Oh yeah my friend pointed out the name relatively early on and I facepalmed.

[heavy depot]

hades

[heavy depot]

idk greek mythos who is she

oh

oh… 😭😭😭

[elfin swift]

IM STUPID TOO HELPPP

[ripe flame]

Maybe spoiler that reveal?

I mean this is the no spoilers channel after all.

[thin spindle]

I just instagibbed ||Uh-Oh (the miniature giant rat)|| by using my morph hex with sustenance to morph it into a Gyro...

you know since it has a health bar and all you'd think it immune. It was so funny to see the gyro with an immune shield around it, then I pick it up and the screen goes black with a red pile of gory remains to signal the mini-boss is dead

wish I'd recorded what it looks like

[vocal palm]

GUYS THE BOSSOF THE GAME IS SKIBIDI TOILET

Get spoiled
Haha
Should’ve finished the game already

[upbeat moth]

||Xinith|| is just the ||Tactical Fists of Malphon||

[ripe flame]

This is the no spoilers channel, you should probably be saying this in #h2-discussion

[lost spindle]

why cant i sell marble to the wretched broker?

adamant as well

[edgy isle]

Can only trade stuff for cosmetic currency now, not bones. Only fish go for bones

[lost spindle]

no like in the recycling service tab

[lost spindle]

it just seems kinda random what is and isnt in the tab

[vagrant whale]

I can see both materials in that tab

[hasty bronze]

its based on the incantations you have or haven't completed - you can only recycle stuff you don't need for any incantations

[lost spindle]

AHH (wait does it mention that in the incantation)

[hasty bronze]

i have no idea

i only know it because other people worked it out lmao

[short turret]

What is the best 3 cost card iyo? I'm very torn.

[tender pier]

If I haven't played H2 since the Alpha test, will I have missed any unique content with the latest Olympus update?

(like any unique dialogue or scenes or something)

[abstract lava]

Probably nothing big

[urban imp]

using Death rn but might switch to something else idk whats your opinion on it?

[naive stump]

Lovers

[abstract lava]

gimme a sec I can send my go-to loadout rn

Swap Strength for Eternity depending on confidence https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/812022034510250016/1297032133701013505/20241018230159_1.jpg?ex=671472ce&is=6713214e&hm=d05cb7f4e26926bbdde3b6a7520186fb29dd0b3e7d4985a30bc06131c9062691&

[eager wraith]

-# ew why is the loadout icon highlighted in yellow but the cards are highlighted in blue lmao

[frosty slate]

Damn, no rerolls?

[abstract lava]

I probably should have some

Just never bothered to actually juggle everything to fit em in

...actually with the Sorceress rework I think I can fit Champions in

[edgy isle]

As in the technical test or some preexisting alpha that was invite only? Nobody can know for the latter but there are some removed voice lines that are pre patch exclusive talking about olympus being a void that will be unlocked with time by hecate/homer talking about it not being available yet and likely some others.

[ripe flame]

Yeah that was there up until this patch I think.

[tender pier]

Gotcha - yeah I was wondering if there was some unique content that was removed with the patch.
I remembered them talking about having content similar to what you mentioned in the H1 open access documentary.

[short turret]

am I just griefing myself by not taking origination every run?

[naive stump]

nah

[nova swift]

Question ||about the new companions. I have met the dog like 10 times now and I still can't trigger Hecate's conversation for the incantation. Is it a bug? I have done so many runs at this point.||

[cursive cobalt]

You need to || recruit the bird || first

[nova swift]

||The bird hasn't shown up at all. I found it once in an Erebus fountain but I guess it's just my RNG not giving me any fountains.||

[naive stump]

Yup

[primal trench]

Yup, gotta find the fountain a second time

[wet coral]

Imagine: the name of the game is Hades 2 because in the future you'll have Zag as playable character. Not only that but co-op with Zag and Mel 🤓 ☝️

[primal trench]

lmao, i love the coop topics

[edgy isle]

imagine you reading the FAQ or any info about the game where they state there will be no coop and that zag will not be a playable character

[wet coral]

that's the joke

[naive stump]

#h2-feedback message @steep dragon ||toula's is still a revive at the end of the day, so yeah that was stopping you||

Oops didn't check which channel I sent this, oh well

[celest pelican]

Hey what's up

Someone knows how to tame the new familiars?

I find them, but cant give the cookies

[lilac sundial]

||have to find raki the bird twice, and then talk to headmistress||

[edgy isle]

||Raki can be recruited after finding them twice in the fountain chamber. Hecuba requires you to have all 3 familiars, feed them all at least 1 treat and then talk to hecate until she gives you permission, may require multiple runs||

[celest pelican]

Oh i see

Thanks

[cloud saffron]

Do the new familiars show up in runs if you have a current familiar equipped? or does it not matter

[naive stump]

Doesn't matter

[cloud saffron]

awesome, ty!

[jade plank]

I still don't have anyone besides Frinos 😢 I only got up to 20 hours before the most recent patch though

I guess they're just kind of rare encounters

[edgy isle]

Not really, they are guaranteed to show up in their respective locations the first few times, but RNG in those specific spots after the guaranteed ones if you didnt have a treat then its all rng

[jade plank]

I guess I'm zooming by too fast if they're there

[bold wigeon]

anyone knows how to get more dark?

[abstract lava]

Chaos room, just fairly rare (though less rare after the update)

[bold wigeon]

ohh nice! Thank you so much ❤️

[cloud pier]

wonder if the ferret will be a fmailiar

also if there will be two other gathering tools

[elfin swift]

theres a big ol hole for another tool too it really feels like it

[abstract lava]

I imagine Gale will be a familiar, but I assumed it would be for hand-picked reagents

[mossy quarry]

How do you even unlock the ability to upgrade familiars

I got Raki, Toula and Frinos and ik its like a ritual you get

[primal trench]

I think you just keep talking to hecate

[primal trench]

There's one spot left, and it seems to be for gale, hecate's other familiar. I wouldn't expect them to add a new tool

[cloud pier]

Thought there was two tool spots open?

[primal trench]

The spots open were for pets, they just coincidence with the tool circle

[cloud pier]

oh i see, interesting

but you can only have one pet/familiar out?

[primal trench]

At a time, yes

[cloud pier]

neat

and each one has a ability that doubles as a tool

Raki-pick
Hecuba-shovel
Toula-fishing rod
Frinos-tablet
wonder what Gale will have?

[primal trench]

All it does is increases the chances of finding said mineral. And by this logic i assume gale will be related to currency gathered by hand

[cloud pier]

i see

[primal trench]

This is my speculation, I really don't see them adding a new tool

[cloud pier]

fair, just my ocd kicking in at seeing an incomplete selection of tools, kinda like how all 6 weapons for Melinoe sit on the moon phases

[cloud pier]

also apparently the familiars do the gathering of said specific tool if Melinoe didnt equip it, but thatw as changed so that equipping specifics just gains more.

so double that.

[primal trench]

Yeha you no longer need to have something equipped, you can gather all 4 in the same run. Equipping a tool/familiar increases the chances it spawning

[cloud pier]

right, just gotta unlock things first

kinda curious what the hidden aspects of the weapons will be, given the Infernal Arms had aspects that dipper into other mythologies.

the Nocturnal Arms could do the same with other myths. (there was a datamine post on reddit, but i wont share it as it might be spoilery)

[primal trench]

I expect it to work the exact same way. The system worked fine, no real reason to change it

[cloud pier]

mhm, though with both paths above and below, probably gotta get one of each final boss material to unlock them.

given Nightmare is the equivalent of Titan Blood

[naive stump]

@grim dagger remember that bugs should be reported through f10

[naive stump]

@real shadow steam deck can already rebind the bug report button to use it iirc

[real shadow]

I'll have a look, thanks!

[naive stump]

From what I've heard using the keyboard is still annoying tho

[real shadow]

Oh I have no doubt about that 🙂

[lilac sundial]

been showing one of my friends who knows Greek mythology well just the offical pics of the characters in this and the first game and hes been able to get them all right. So great job on the design for them all to be that easily recognizable.

[hasty bronze]

did he have any favourites?

[lilac sundial]

Hecate because as he said, Absolute drip.

[hasty bronze]

so true

[lilac sundial]

oh so cool, I just noticed in Hades 1 Artemis has the moon stuff still on her, nice foreshadowing.

[abstract lava]

I mean her association with Selene is also just. actual myth

[steep moat]

Well yes since Artemis and Apollo are respectively the gods of Moon and Sun (with everything ese attached to it)

[violet lion]

Isn’t it sorta unfair that early access of H2 has more content than finished H1 and early access is limited to only pc, which is like a third of the community?

[abstract lava]

It's much easier to develop for one platform than 3 or 4

[violet lion]

Yeah, but i guess my problem lies more in the fact that those three platforms are the ones that share a common control scheme, meaning it’s technically entirely possible, unless they’re having people do separate feedback for controllers ON pc, that said feedback and changes could be for the WORSE once it’s put on console

[green gorge]

Not to mention supporting several platforms during EA sounds painful

[naive stump]

Trying to bug report and having to check between pc and console sounds fun

[violet lion]

AND waiting potentially another year or two when there’s a more than finished game that still has to go through the porting process AFTER the pc development

[tardy flicker]

Control scheme isn’t the thing that matters when developing for multiple platforms, porting to the different consoles is its own challenge separately for each one

[abstract lava]

Not to mention console store fronts I feel like aren't really built to accommodate for EA like Steam is

[tardy flicker]

A big thing is the approval process for updates to console games, which can take ages for no reason and is completely out of SGG’s control

[violet lion]

The way i see it, finished or not, pc players are getting to play early
Potentially YEARS early
That’s only a third of the community able to play this for YEARS

[green gorge]

There's so so many things that feels like roadblocks to me that make EA on any platform other than PC untenable imho
Whilst I think it would be awesome. I think it's not realistic due to several factors out of sgg's control, one which campfire mentioned

[tardy flicker]

It just isn’t feasible to support an early access game like this on console

[violet lion]

The only other solution in the fairness measure, would be for there to not be early access but i know that’s just not feasible

I’d even take a poorly optimized and unupdated demo

[tardy flicker]

Like, it isn’t a matter of what’s “fair”, the goal SGG has is making the best game they can, and early access is the way to do that, and pc is the way to do that

[green gorge]

If everything was about "fair" we'd have a bloodborne PC port, we wouldn't be waiting years for some PS exclusives to release with PC ports.
But this is the reality we live in. And things that are seemingly unfair on the surface have reasons behind them that for why they haven't happened

[violet lion]

I don’t know it just sucks man
I’m running out of stuff to do in the first game and the way i see it, there’s a massive group of people who are already playing the next one years ahead of me, and it’s bigger than hades 1 already. I’m jealous. I’m impatient. And yeah I’m wrong, but what else am i supposed to do? pcs are too expensive, so i just have to wait? i hate it.

[chrome adder]

OH SHOOT

this is NOT h2 discussion

mybad

[violet lion]

Pfff thats funny as heck

[green gorge]

I get it and it really sucks, but claiming "fairness" or "unfairness" that Hades 2 Early Access isn't on console is very much a double standard when it sucks that console exclusives exist and have not and some will possibly never make its way to pc

[violet lion]

it totally is a double standard, i know i’m wrong for my argument
I’m just impatient. And bitter.

Like i was fine with being patient before, but after hearing that the unfinished game is already bigger than the finished one? It just makes me more angry that I have to wait another year or two.

And thats before port development even happens

[green gorge]

I can foresee this discussion going down a rabbit hole, so I'm going to proactively ask for it to move to #video-games

[hardy river]

Idk your situation but this game has very low system requirements, you could probably run it on an old laptop

[ripe flame]

Sadly this is not really true. I have a 2023 Lenovo laptop and have had many performance issues. The sheer texture memory requirements are large enough that inbuilt graphical chipsets may not cope well (since they fake VRAM with system memory and it's often slower to access). It's low requirements if you have a dedicated GPU, in terms of processing power, but shifting hundreds of fairly detailed (and yes, I'm talking about lowest quality settings) textures around takes bandwidth that inbuilt GPU chipsets in laptops may not cope with.

[untold scroll]

how are they handling updates for h2? are the new story and gameplay integrated nicely?

remember hearing how the first game handles updates and people were saying that it felt organically added into the game and was just wondering if this is the same for h2?

[edgy isle]

There will never be any new story added until 1.0, it will basically only be gameplay and little teasers in voice lines for future stuff but anything actually core story(eg anything after beating dad in H1 the first time) will not be added until 1.0.

The game world lore expands sure but i don't really consider that story as it doesn't really do much to move the world forward its just background info or teasers for what lies ahead(Eventually)

But yes for the most part it all feels organic. Some of the stuff is pretty obvious you were supposed to unlock earlier like new voicelines feel out of place as they got added after you were past that moment, but it all feel great.

[untold scroll]

thank you for the info

im keen on waiting for this game but as time goes on and more updates get added im not sure how long i can hold out for

[dusty fractal]

if it helps at all i played both early access h1 and am now playing early access h2. the way the changes are made by supergiant feels really seamless and it never feels like you're playing a completely different game (like how other companies handle early access). i also really enjoy seeing the changes made to how some weapons/mechanics work, going from something that feels 'clunky' to something that feels smooth to play.

if you don't mind that experience of iterative changes, i would go for it. its a good time 😄

[static atlas]

Someone said no story will be added, that is not completely right. What wont be added until 1.0 is the 3rd act of the main plotline, you know when Zag meets his mom and everything after that? Yeah, the equivalent of that here is locked in the 1.0 wall as well. However, the second act of the storyline was developed further in the new region, and some Npc's plotlines have progressed in the most recent major patch. No plotline released previously was changed.

[untold scroll]

glad i asked here for info thanl you again guys!

[chrome wave]

I've been granted the ||Shared Familiar Bonds|| permission from Hecate. What do I need to do to actually get the ||last two familiars? I know I've met one in Mourning Fields before, but not always, and I don't know where the other one is at all||

[naive stump]

||erebus fountain room||

Oh wait ||do you have frog and bird?||

[chrome wave]

yes

[naive stump]

||cat is on the surface, lobby of 2nd biome||

[chrome wave]

I already have ||all 3 base familiars, I mean hecate's familiars||

[naive stump]

||doggo is in echo's room as you noticed, the other one isn't available yet||

[chrome wave]

ah ok then

[vivid sequoia]

What platforms is hades 2 on

[vagrant whale]

Currently only on Steam. It'll likely come to console after Early Access has ended.

[vivid sequoia]

Aight

[gritty sable]

did anyone else also get a 4gb update?

[raw ermine]

Mine was more like 1.5

[waxen sphinx]

Is there a point to Fishing besides getting Bones?

[primal trench]

Fun?

[waxen sphinx]

Obviously Fishing is Great 😄

I meant the pragmatic use. 😉

[primal trench]

Bones

[ripe flame]

You get a water element for the first fish on each run if you have the rod.

[edgy isle]

sometimes. 50% chance on every fish until you get it once.

[signal drum]

how do achievements work? will we be able to unlock them naturally once they’re added to steam?

[vagrant whale]

I didn't play H1 early access, but I believe that the way it worked was most achievements were automatically given once they were added, with some having to be reobtained manually (though usually they were reasonably easy, like finishing Erebus or something)

[gilded adder]

Good luck hades 2 😭

I hope they win!! I can't wait for the release on Nintendo switch I'm checking announcements for it every day 🥺

[vagrant whale]

There won't be a Switch release until after EA is over. I played the first game on Switch, I definitely think I prefer it on there over Steam, but I needed to play this ASAP. Hoping you can enjoy it soon!

[edgy isle]

The official statement a dev gave a few months ago was that anything that is preexisting one time only achievements eg clear all testaments or get each skelly statue in hades 1 would auto unlock

Anything repeatable and not one time, eg get through erebus for the first time would need to be cleared again.

[signal drum]

i meant the steam achievements, i didn’t play hades 1 ea so i’m wondering how that’s gonna work

oh nvm i’m dumb💀

[signal drum]

thank you!

[edgy isle]

lmaoo

[gilded adder]

I dont have a computer to play it on 😭 i played the first game on switch too and honestly its one of my alltime favourites. Does that mean next year is the release?

[edgy isle]

There is no official release date beyond "not 2024"

[gilded adder]

💀

[edgy isle]

And also "not next update"

[vagrant whale]

My best guess would be somewhere in the range of late 2025-mid 2026

[gilded adder]

https://tenor.com/view/let-me-in-eric-andre-wanna-come-in-gif-13730108

[edgy isle]

So it could release 2 updates from now in like april 2025 making it a 1 year EA cycle

Or it could release like 4 updates from now for a holiday 2025

[gilded adder]

That's fair 😭 it needs to be polished I understand

[edgy isle]

Or it could be like 7 updates away and launch in 2026. We don't know beyond "Not next update which comes in 2025"

[vagrant whale]

The end of EA likely won't mean it goes right to console, since work has to be done to actually port it after the fact

[gilded adder]

Ooooh thank you!

[edgy isle]

I would expect a simultaneous launch for most consoles this time around tbh unless it launches early next year.

They had to rewrite the entire engine of hades 1 to port it last time and i would assume they planned ahead now

[vagrant whale]

I'd definitely expect consoles to be a simultaneous launch, though there's also the matter of the Switch's successor possibly coming out during that time which may or may not complicate things

[gilded adder]

If it releases on the switch two I'll have to start selling my kindey 💀

Also thanks for all the useful info I'm saving it in my notes XD

[vagrant whale]

I imagine that it'll still release on the regular Switch. Based on how it's been described, while the Switch 2 will be an upgrade, it's not going to be a whole new concept that requires changes in how something is developed for it

Many other Nintendo consoles that have been brand new ideas are usually referred to publicly with a codename before being formally announced, while a new iteration of a previous console is usually called a successor or something similar

[gilded adder]

Just wondering how much did it cost on the PC?

[vagrant whale]

$30. I doubt that price will change before launch

[gilded adder]

Sucks that out of the Nintendo leaks they didn't steal any Hades info 🥺🤣

[gilded adder]

That's really good!!!

[vagrant whale]

Definitely. It's on the higher end in terms of indie games, but I think it's absolutely worth it, even now during early access.

I probably can get more playtime out of the original trying to clear everything there is currently (mainly due to the difference in the heat system), but I have 100+ hours in II right now with a few more game progress things I can do.

[gilded adder]

I mean with how amazing and re playable the first game is I have high hopes

[gilded adder]

Awesome!!

I think I have something like 375 hours on hades

[vagrant whale]

Damn, nice

I believe I'm around 100ish, recently picked it back up again. It's interesting to see the differences between the games, I feel like playing II more made me better at 1.

[gilded adder]

Ooooh see I have so many hours because I'm trying to get all of skullies statues, I just need the last one - but I haven't picked it up in a while since work life but I re started a new save file and I'm having fun romancing characters together, since I only went for Than on my first playthtough

[vagrant whale]

Oooh, nice

I got all of the Skelly statues in 2, slowly working my way up through 1

[gilded adder]

Sorry I got off topic 💀 thank you so much for all the information on hades 2!! Normally I'm too scared to go to these channels just in case

[gilded adder]

Good luck!!

[vagrant whale]

All good!! This is definitely the right channel to come to asking generally about the game.

And thanks!! I will need it, Hades (the dad) is not very kind to me.

[gritty sable]

Can someone tell me if I'm near the main story roadblock?
||I had the dream where Chronos locked up the House of Hades and demanded Hades to tell him where the Fates are||

[chrome adder]

that is the last ||flashback||, you cannot ||find the fates|| and you cannot ||venture past the room where you encounter chronos in the final region||, so i’d say you’re close to the end of ea main story

[gritty sable]

Ah beans ok I guess I'll wait for release 😄

[chrome adder]

still plenty of side stories! particularly ||arachne and dora’s|| arcs got expanded this update

[smoky knoll]

there's a lot to find still after that point yeah

[grand nest]

bro how did you able to dream allat

[edgy isle]

Its quite literally the 2nd flashback and i think as soon as you reach tartarus the first time and die

[short elk]

stupid question but if I add ||fear for a testament|| and they show a guardian down below but i ||go to the surface||, there's no chance i get the|| nightmare|| right?

[heady nacelle]

thats correct

[signal jackal]

^What Zygian said. Each of those ||testaments|| is aimed towards defeat of a specific guardian with a specific Nocturnal Arm at a specific ||fear level||.

[green gorge]

@mystic vigil @ancient prism hi there. A quick reminder that #h2-feedback is not the place to discuss feedback. If you wish to discuss feedback found there please do so in #h2-discussion. Thanks

[ancient prism]

Thanks for the reminder, it's been a minute

[subtle quail]

alright i know its in the FAQ with "Should I play in Early Access, or hold off?
For many players, it's a good idea to wait for the game to be complete before diving in, as we expect it to improve over time. But, if you like the idea of seeing Hades II grow and evolve, and watching the story unfold more gradually, then Early Access is probably for you!"

...but its a little vague and i wanted to ask specifically about playing in early access

how much of the game is complete/playable? Is there a solid story in place, and are all floors existant?

like does early access just mean bug fixes and adding enemies and weapons and stuff, or is every aspect of the game still being worked on?

cuz if its a case of "the main story is intact and you can get to the end, it might be a bit buggy and barebones but its there" i want it, but if its a case of like "well up to the third floor is done and theres only like 30% of story stuff done, and the main story will only come out at 1.0" kinda thing ill hold off... i hope my really dumb convoluted question makes some sorta sense

[edgy isle]

To put it in hades 1 terms, the game ends after beating dad. You cannot seek out mom, or visit greece at all, cannot do most characters side quests like the music person and Asphodels NPC etc.

[subtle quail]

(also dude wtf steam cloud, a literal year of progress in h1 just got wiped from my save)

(...guess im never playing h1 again)

[edgy isle]

The world story is there and you can experience most of it up until beating the final boss for the first time, and the world comments as if you win, but until 1.0 you cannot progress the main story

said main story being h1 terms of beating dad 10 times

[subtle quail]

ah makes sense

[edgy isle]

We currently have two paths and are only missing the final biome of the 2nd path

[subtle quail]

so the full main story only gets released on full release, and while theres structure to the "floors", the gameplay is the thing we see slowly get bigger and better (more enemies, weapons etc)

(also ooo paths)

[edgy isle]

We currently have all 6 weapons and are only missing the hidden aspect equivalent of hades 1, and even that isn't confirmed to be added its just.. i mean the room is there in the UI and we loved it in h1

[subtle quail]

good to know, any ideas on when the full game releases or is it too early?

[edgy isle]

The only timeline is "not 2024" and "Not next update"

[chrome adder]

too early, however the next major update is predicted to be early 2025 and will not be the last!

[edgy isle]

Could be summer 2025 for a 1 year EA, could be holiday 2025 could be 2026 or later

[subtle quail]

brill, good to know. thanks for the info (that uve probably repeated 300 times) guys hahaha

[fossil falcon]

I know all the spoilers, but I don’t want to say anything. I just want to engage in a no spoiler chat.

[chrome adder]

cool

[alpine jacinth]

how am i already at the point where i get no dialogues with ||prometheus||

[fossil falcon]

Early Access XD

[deep lance]

At this point, I feel like h2-discussion is only for people who've managed the equivalent of Hades 1 "25+ heat" runs already. Much of it is incomprehensible to me, so I'm here too.

[wraith patrol]

i actually prefer low heat runs in hades 1, cuz you can do silly shenanigans like 100% dodge chance if you go fast enough

[grand nest]

ngl I would love to see Promethesus on surface

[deep lance]

I would love to get past the first boss on the surface, but that doesn't look likely soon.

[old terrace]

Ok in case you feel like it's just you - it's not, it took me forever to get past him and he's still not a cakewalk 😕

[rapid badger]

if you keep your range then he's a lot easier from my experience
except for the axe
if you're using the axe for him, then good luck

[deft coral]

mel looks so cute in the halloween art

love the shades trick or treating, ty SG artists!!!

[rapid badger]

bro why is one shade dressed as a ghost
you're already dead dude-

[deep lance]

Thanks, it's just a bit demoralising when some of the Feedback is from people complaining that "H2 is too easy and no-one dies in a run in it", and then there's those of us who've never managed to complete a run.

[flat stirrup]

I mean if you're a ghost why would you stop dressing up for Halloween?

You're dead, why NOT dress up

[old terrace]

I feel you, it IS demoralizing and ngl for that reason I only approach the feedback channel when I'm in a very specific kind of very good mood, because I am here to have fun, dangit.

I will, however, pass on the commentary I got from one of the Real Ones (tm), which is that we shouldn't forget that H2 is still very much being built & tuned! The underworld path, (although still pretty tough coming from Hades imo) plays more fair and I reasonably anticipate that the surface path will also get balanced into something fun.

Full disclosure, I hit the "this is not fun, actually 🙃" point after getting past that tricky first surface boss, because the next one area is tough and the bosses suck, and I turned on god mode. It Is Still Hard, BUT I am having fun, because even unfinished the story has grabbed my brain and I hope that's the case for you as well!

[full perch]

Totally, in hades 1 self-perished to get god mode to like 10% just to make progress, then it felt balanced (slight increase after that naturally) until I was able to remove it

[deep lance]

I mean, I'm not turning on god mode because there's no way to pause it ticking up the easiness (it would be a much better mechanic if it either stopped ticking up once you started clearing, or let you pause it ticking up or just let you set the amount of help it gives you, imo). But I do feel you!

[old terrace]

Hmmm, I would say that if you feel like, having used it a few times, you're (for example) living long enough to get the hang of a boss, then just toggle it off and try your sticking point again. Maybe you can pause the game real quick and toggle it off before you die (when it's obvious you're about to)? I've never tried that, I don't know if that would actually stop it from increasing the damage reduction.

I did turn god mode on in H1, but only for half a dozen runs.. less, actually, it starts at 20% damage reduction and never hit 30. I never felt like I had to turn it on again once I got past the spot I was stuck on.

In H2, just for reference, it's somewhere over 40% right now and there are still enemies that will get me for 30-50 points of damage, and that's just the ones where I had time to notice how hard they hit me before I died. 🤪 The surface route is, truly, mean as (ha!) hell right now.

[neon creek]

alot of power is also hidden behind the progression stuff
earlier fights are harder for sure
game gets easier the more you can invest into stuff like arcana
||familiars|| keepsakes and weapons and some incantantations

[deep lance]

Sure, although with Hades (1) I still took a v long time to get a clear even with a full mirror, and with a half-completed set of arcana, and a lvl 2 keepsake H2 still seems pretty difficult. Especially since they took away the "time slows down when charging omega" arcana, which is the only reason I could use omega things...

[old terrace]

If you haven't tried changing weapons, definitely do that, especially after this update..
I've had the best luck switching to something ranged, because that gives me more time to use the omega attacks.

||The staff, Aspect of Mel, is especially useful because the omega attacks are so fast after a few upgrades, it just takes a little thinking through how to manage your magick because you will run through it quick.||

At the end of the day, though, I fully agree with you... Even after picking up quite a few of H2's upgrades, it's harder than H1.

[fossil hound]

Can someone give me a nudge with regards to finding the new familiars in this patch?? Without outright spoiling perhaps. I’ve already found ||raki|| and I've encountered ||Hecuba in the fields|| a few times but I've still never seen ||Gale|| at all and havent found either since Hecate ||gave her permission to recruit them||

[chrome adder]

||it is a 75% chance to find hecuba where you found her- just keep going there each run with treats. gale is not in the game yet||

[fossil hound]

Thank you!!

[chrome adder]

no problem

[toxic gulch]

you can actually cheese them pretty badly if you build witches staff right click charge attack

[turbid comet]

Playing a slightly more ranged game is also how I play against them because of how strong their melee is. It also gives me more time to react to ||their shockwave moves||

[fast chasm]

What's up gamers, how is No Nyx November treating you all

[true spoke]

Even for the axe, i usually omega special from a safe distance

[haughty lodge]

Man I just played with ||aspect of nyx.|| Feels bad man.

[distant tiger]

Hiya! I was wondering if anyone knew if there were any really clear assets out there anywhere of the "time/rewind sigil" (dunno if it has a more offical name), the one that appears on the title screen and in the cast and on zero health? I wanna get a tattoo of it and I'm trying to piece it together from those pics in the game but if anyone already had a high res clear version of it without melinoe in the way thatd be Mega helpful.

[chrome adder]

are you talking about the symbol that appears above when you use a death defiance or after you return to shadow?

[distant tiger]

The return to shadow one, on the ground, same as cast?

[chrome adder]

ah

[ebon thicket]

I've been avoiding the server for the past year to go in to this blind, any idea if this will become available on mac at the same time as 1.0 or if its gonna be sometime after that?

[crude veldt]

I don't believe there's any official word yet, but I personally would expect most / all ports to come out either alongside or soon after 1.0

[ebon thicket]

if you had to make a guess how close is the game to 1.0 percentage wise?

its mildly tempting to get a steam deck so i dont have to wait longer than i alr have

[crude veldt]

We just got a major update, and we know there will be another one sometime next year before 1.0. I'd expect 1.0 by probably late 2025? Though it could be a conservative guess, it could come sooner

[ebon thicket]

rip to me

ive gotten lucky and only spoiled on the dialouge art for some charachters and 2 bosses

wanna keep it that way but im gonna find something i dont want to eventually

[crude veldt]

Percentage-wise I'd say like a sixth of the game is missing, the main gameplay is missing a big chunk and of course the ending sequence and all postgame stuff is unimplemented

[ebon thicket]

oh i thought that had been mostly done

[crude veldt]

Lots of the game feels content-complete though. If you do end up getting a deck, I recommend playing in EA. I was lucky to play Hades 1 in EA and getting to see the game develop over time is a lot of fun.

[crude veldt]

I haven't heard either way on the development progress, that's probably true. It's just not in the game as it stands now

[ebon thicket]

in any case, its 3 am, ive got class in 7 hours and need to sleep

[crude veldt]

Goodnight! Have a good one tomorrow :)

[ebon thicket]

thx

[hasty bronze]

from the Olympic update: "game now runs natively on apple mac systems with M1 or later"

or something like that. phrasing may be off

[median harbor]

idk if someone already pointed it out Buuuut
so, in Hades 1, we could get companions given by thanatos, meg, pat & achilles etc
in hades 2, on the keepsake box, theres the same space as hades 1 , keeping in mind that Hecate, Odysseus, Moros, Dora and Nemesis will probably be those who will give us companions, theres still 1 more person to go (since in hades 1 theres the total of 6 companions you can get while in hades 2 only 5) , i was thinking that maybe Zag could be the last one to fit that spot🥲🥲

[heady nacelle]

Hades is also a candidate I just realized

[ebon thicket]

WAIIIT ALL THIS TIME I COULDA BEEN PLAYINGGG?

lmaooooo

[hasty bronze]

but hey! you can start now!

[ebon thicket]

still debating if i should wait a bit longer until 1.0 or at least another major update or two

[hasty bronze]

I would just play it

[ebon thicket]

alr

[deft coral]

not allllll this time, but 3 weeks ago you coulda started yes

[alpine jacinth]

is there a unique no boon voiceline from ||chronos||?

[crude veldt]

I tried to look it up recently, but it seems there either isn't one or it's so difficult to get it that nobody's recorded it yet

[alpine jacinth]

i just saw haelian did one and he didnt get a unique voice line

if they add those ill do a boonless run, as hard as it sounds

[crude veldt]

Unfortunate, but it's a lot harder to dodge & purge boons in this game than H1 so it makes some sense

[green gorge]

friendly reminder please spoiler tag post erebus content in this channel

that means you @alpine jacinth

ty ^-^

[ebon thicket]

I got a good run, is there a way to see what boons I had on that run after it’s over?

There was something like it in the first game and I’m not sure if it’s in the second one yet

[chrome adder]

there is an incantation you can unlock later yes

[ebon thicket]

Cool

[ebon thicket]

im having framerate issues, is that just a bad laptop or a known thing

happens a lot with those screaming things in erebus and one of the miniboss attacks

[amber sentinel]

It's not happening for me on a desktop but hardware variations could matter here

[ebon thicket]

more or less what i guessed, just happens a lot more than it has for hades 1

[primal trench]

Certainly not "common". Judging by your following message I'm gonna assume is a hardware issue

[ebon thicket]

the lagging has cleared up, not happening much anymore exept in a few extreme cases

[shy zephyr]

i played like 3-4 hours just to get a taste, reached the final boss and died
I'll be waiting until full release. the game is amazing but I'm sure it'll be even more amazing when 1.0 drops

[primal trench]

The way is see it, if you're debating that, and you've waited until now, might as well just wait a little more

[vast oasis]

Hasn’t it been our since May

The early access at least

[wooden socket]

yea

[hasty bronze]

yes but mac access only came on the last major patch. which is what this person needed in order to play

shush

[wooden socket]

Did you ever fall asleep

[hasty bronze]

yeah

[wooden socket]

lol good I feel asleep about 12 hours ago

[severe falcon]

Is there any point to continuing to salute people once you've heard their various responses?

[primal trench]

No

[severe falcon]

Thank you.

I assume "Brooding" over the painting at the beginning is likewise a thing that eventually ceases to produce new dialog.

[primal trench]

yes, all dialogue is finite

they can only record so much

[severe falcon]

Of course. Just trying to figure out what will save me extra clicks and time between runs without missing plot. So once I sense repetition, I should stop doing it.

[primal trench]

click anything with an exclamation mark, ignore anything that doesnt

[severe falcon]

Seems simple enough.

[primal trench]

[severe falcon]

I don't know why I'm finding the learning curve of this game so much harder than the first. Like, there I hit a wall for my first 10 runs, and then everything got easier every run thereafter. In H2, I feel like I'm just not getting any better. Feels like purely random if I lose halfway through zone 1, or at the zone 2 end boss, after 15 runs.

[primal trench]

Slow down, analyze enemy patterns, see what they do and how to avoid getting hit

[frozen quest]

also for new players - in hades 1 the cast is almost optional, h2 it’s your main way to avoid getting absolutely swamped

[primal trench]

Assume you meant the cast

If so, yes, press a button and root enemies

Gives you breathing room to analyze the situation

[severe falcon]

I did that fine in H1. Seems harder in H2.

[naive stump]

When in doubt, click dem's cast

[primal trench]

That's okay, different games

[severe falcon]

Yeah, I started mixing it in more, but it feels more like a snare I have to drop and kite, which is weird to me. In H1 could dart in and out, not in H2.

[primal trench]

I don't mean this to sound rude. But you gotta stop treating the game like it's h1, it isn't.

[severe falcon]

Yeah. I wouldn't expect them to play exactly the same. I just don't know if it's actually a harder curve, or if there's something about me that's misaligned. Because it's taking me a lot longer to get it than H1, and H1 was my first game in the genre.

[primal trench]

From my experience, I wouldn't necessarily call it a "harder cuve" but a different curve. Some people might adapt to that curve better than others

Just keep at it

The cast alone made the game significantly easier than h1 for me

[severe falcon]

I'll try. Haven't given up yet.

[severe falcon]

Maybe there's something about the cast I'm just not yet getting tactically. I'm just treating it like a snare/trap.

[primal trench]

That's precisely what it is, and that's very powerful

[severe falcon]

I probably need to get more comfortable with the movement to better leverage it. She feels clumsier than Zag.

[frozen quest]

the other big element is omega moves, ofc. are you using them when you can?

[severe falcon]

But the weapons are also much more complex.

[severe falcon]

I do, but probably not enough, and my timing will need work.

[frozen quest]

i wouldn’t describe her as clumsy, it’s just that you can’t spam dash all the time for infinite i-frames

[severe falcon]

I also am absolutely terrible with whatever the term is for ||Selene||'s boons, and there seems no way to just get reps and practice it.

[frozen quest]

hexes are kind of in a weird spot

they’re more of a nice-to-have than something you should really care about in most builds

[primal trench]

They are a bit underwhelming at the moment so don't overthink it

[frozen quest]

It’s also worth looking at your arcana card setup to see what helps and what doesn’t

the bottom-left 3 cards give you so much control over your run in a way that was completely impossible in hades 1

not completely impossible, but you can be quite granular about what boons you want in which slot

[severe falcon]

Interesting. Something to look forward to. Fundamentals and movement first though.

[naive stump]

If your weapon isn't already eating mana like crazy they can't shine much

You can probably just default to healing hex or keep whatever for midnight oil from hermes lol

Wolf howl is pretty decent too

[primal trench]

Healing or zombie are solid, very basic, canr use them wrong

[naive stump]

W/o investment it becomes a "iframes on demand" button

[severe falcon]

Oh. It gives iframes? Sweet!

[naive stump]

Yeah

Its upgrade tree can also give impervious for 1s after landing

Wait is that node purple or blue again

Total eclipse is also good if you are burning mp

[primal trench]

Moon crash whatever also has an upgrade that gives you iframes until it lands, that's 4 full seconds of invulnerability

[naive stump]

From what I've heard the kaser beam can be good but needs like mass investment into it

And it also means hoping the right nodes show up

But yeah healing increases your effective hp by a comical amount if you get the "recover all hp lost in last 2s" node

[primal trench]

Also the one that let's you stack them

[naive stump]

Other than that, forcing Dem for her cast is like never a wrong move

Your cast just becomes this ridiculous crowd control too

[primal trench]

I only find the beam usable if it has the auto turret upgrade

[naive stump]

Heph is also defensively goated if you need it

[fathom otter]

i love taking lunar ray and yelling "hadoken" or "kamehameha" or "miku miku beam" as i use it

[fathom otter]

this is much more of a necessity in 2 than in 1 because you are restricted to one dash now, and if hermes can give you more it's never happened to me

[naive stump]

no extra dashes for you

just mid boons

[shy zephyr]

a big difference i felt between the games is that melinoe's upgrades are generally much weaker than zag, but so are the enemies she faces

might just be me though idk

i really liked it because it made the game a lot more skill-based imo. you're not too reliant on getting the correct boons

[primal trench]

like i said, it varies from people to people

[foggy pine]

Both games are designed in a way where eventually the no heat/||fear|| run becomes a pushover, so I feel like there is lot of room to experiment with the changes, like going from double dash to dash+sprint and such

[raven parrot]

is this game super fun

[edgy isle]

realistically anyone patrolling this discord let alone channel is biased to not really give you a fair answer. IMO yes, but i also have 200 hours and answer questions here so not really fair lmao

[wooden socket]

If you like being a witch and are a people pleaser oh I got the game for you

[wraith spade]

hey can anyone point out where i get g-rock?

[simple ridge]

Yep!

[turbid comet]

In ||The Mourning Fields||, third area going down

Not sure how you are with pings so I turned it off but just in case @wraith spade

[wraith spade]

Cheers!

[wraith spade]

It’s great 😊

[pallid sierra]

Seriously though

[wanton plover]

do you guys have any info when the next patch is gonna be?

[shy zephyr]

iirc i read somewhere it'll be early 2025

but looking around I can't find it anywhere

[fast plover]

the roadmap says it'll release in early 2025 and should take less time than the last update took, so about february/march (take that with a grain of salt though, things can change)

[pallid sierra]

Early 2025 and it "definitely" (paraphrasing) won't be the last before release, no firm release yet.

I'm happy for them to take their time and ship a really polished 1.0, I hope they aren't pressured by 2025 end of year holiday sales and awards and all that.

[shy zephyr]

didn't hades 1 have like 5 major updates before 1.0

i doubt they'll finish in 2025

[somber lagoon]

at least we'll have all the bosses out

[pallid sierra]

Fine by me.

[shy zephyr]

let them cook 🔥

[edgy isle]

Hades 1 had like 12 updates before 1.0 if we count epic release

Which was the start of ea

However sgg has stated that they were farther along than the initial steam release of h1 EA so comparing them isn't really fair especially since they said h2 has more content then the full release of h1

So while it could release in 2026 or later I personally expect a fall- 2025 release at latest.

Wouldn't be mad if it was later considering the state h1 was left off at though

[shy zephyr]

honestly I don't expect a 2025 release

if it does release though i wouldn't mind, keep your expectations low and you'll never be disappointed

[shy zephyr]

btw what do you mean the state h1 was left off? was it supposed to get more content?

[wanton plover]

ohh i thought it meant that since it took less time than the last update, it would be at least dec-jan since the gap before tyhe big update was 3 months

btw, do you guys think it's worth it to play rn should i wait? i'm more concerned about the story rather than the gameplay

[fast plover]

nah we're assuming they're referring to the time between early access release and olympic update release, which is about five months

[wanton plover]

ohh thanks for thiss, makes more sense

[edgy isle]

no new content was planned, the issue is that the stuff added in the last 2 updates are still VERY buggy/unpolished and an extra 6~ months of not content support just fixes/balance would've done wonders

[eternal fulcrum]

so are we gonna get more than 8 gods to get boons from?

ik there are atleast 8 gods who can grant boons

[sleek lark]

8 ‘pool’ gods plus a bunch of special gods

[vast willow]

dont think that we are going to get more than the current gods

[sleek lark]

hopefully ares will be like demeter aka a pool god who arrives a lot later

[vast willow]

i think ares might be a god like athena or artemis

[sleek lark]

looks like it but i’m still holding out hope

[shy zephyr]

h1 had 9 so it'd make sense if we have 9 here as well

[vagrant finch]

H1 only had 8

[shy zephyr]

i mean, that's considering you don't count hermes

actually nevermind you're right, i was confused for a second

well even so since each run's pool still caps at 4, more gods would make the game more diverse in terms of gameplay

[pallid sierra]

One thing that might be interesting to add would be duos with Artemis/Hermes/Athena/Dionysus and other gods I guess?

[sleek lark]

me when i have to get deadly reversal for a prophecy (i need both artemis and athena to show up:)

giving them (including hades) each a legendary boon only accessible after some point in the story would be cool

kinda like how narcissus only gives you heavenly splendour after you finish his arc

[digital grail]

Can anyone give me any advice, I find that I'm taking way more damage in hades 2 vs hades 1 - I'm always dodging as much as possible whilst absolutely spamming attacks and such, but i take so much damage in this game

[ripe flame]

The play style is more deliberate than the first game. Dodging and spamming isn't as effective unless you're also thinking about synergies between things like cast and attack, and making space and time for yourself.

Prioritizing certain enemies is important, as is using what cover and terrain advantages there are.

[pallid sierra]

Take care of "nuisance" enemies first, ones with low HP but that deny space, move very quickly, or especially that create projectiles. For example in Erebus don't worry about the big guys until you've taken out the wailers (screech attackers that hit as soon as your cast goes down) and coffins (worms)

Until you have a way to melt armor, or just can do enough damage, make use of terrain to blow through their armor. Armored enemies do not get stun locked. Once their shields are down if you have them alone they're neutered.

You want to reduce the amount of stuff happening ASAP, and use your cast strategically within the space to create safety. Some enemies have attacks that "penetrate" casts by lunging in like the birds and assassins in Ephyra, or the wailers in Erebus. Projectiles will go right through, hence make sure you deal with them quickly.

[green needle]

building on what u said, cast is very important in this game. It shares a name with the cast in H1, but that's it. They function very differently and the cast in H2 is very useful to keep yourself safe and to do extra damage

[shy zephyr]

in h1 cast was only decent to get some extra damage or with certain builds
in h2 it's a fundamental part of your kit, you have to use it as much as you use your attack and special

[digital grail]

The cast is the big circle on the floor right?

[chrome adder]

yes

[digital grail]

Thank you! I'll keep trying 🙂

[severe falcon]

Had a breakthrough recently where I had a good run and sliced through everything up to the 4th zone boss almost unscathed (only second time beating zone 2 boss, and first time beating zone 3), but didn't quite get through his health bar (I'm assuming there's two, much like Hades' end boss). Still, felt like I cracked the code on some things. Last boss feels like a bigger difficulty spike, and harder than the first Hades game, but I think I'll crack it eventually.

I still think I'm missing key things to get more damage output, but I'll figure them out. Now that I feel like I understand The Path of Stars, I want to figure out infusions.

[steep moat]

infusions are only god if you build around them, and some are still mostly meh

[halcyon flower]

People who have played H2, do you feel like it's complete enough for this H1 die-hard to spring for it, or is it still worth waiting for full release?

[hasty bronze]

it's not complete but there is more content than all of h1 had

[inner bramble]

Aye

What’s good?

And yes very much so @halcyon flower

[frail crater]

Story wise, no, not nearly. Gameplay wise yes for sure

[primal trench]

Like the moment above says, the story isn't even near to be complete, however gameplay wise it more than justify the purchase

[halcyon flower]

I just purchased it. Even if it just sits in my library, at least the team will have a little extra money to play with.

[primal trench]

Do give it a try, it's a fantastic

[halcyon flower]

I'm sorely tempted, but I didn't play Hades 1 until full release.

[primal trench]

By all means

[frail crater]

Gameplay wise it's basically complete except for hidden aspects. Story you only have a few teasing fragments of

And the gameplay is very different from H1 and super fun

[halcyon flower]

I'll consider it. Right now the new WoW expansion is consuming me.

[primal trench]

Well no quite, there's still 1 missing zone, that's not just story, that is also gameplay

[frail crater]

Hmm fair that too kinda missed that

[primal trench]

But the point remains

[frail crater]

But yeah still close to complete gameplay wise

[primal trench]

They also confirmed more boons are coming

[halcyon flower]

So what you all are saying is playing early release is not a drastic spoiler for what final will be, plot-wise.

[primal trench]

Basically, and they do a nice job explaining why you haven't finished it

Isn't just "missing content" like I'm your average game

[frail crater]

You will get the basic story set up, but you don't really know where it will go finally

[primal trench]

After all, time cannot be stopped

[frail crater]

To compare to h1, you will figure out that Zag is trying to escape Hades to meet his birth* mom, and a little bit of backstories about his companions, but not much beyond that

[halcyon flower]

Gotcha

But let's be clear. He has two real moms. Nyx is the GOAT.

[frail crater]

There, corrected that

[primal trench]

Absolutely

[halcyon flower]

Kaboom

[primal trench]

Tldr of this discussion. You cna play the game, and you can effectively finish a full run, with full boons, just like you would in h1, you just have no closure in the story

[halcyon flower]

I love both Nyx and Persephone

Roger that

[primal trench]

There still a good story already, just an incomplete one

[primal trench]

@oblique vortex I'm not sure if intended or not but it is logical, if you have 3 gods, there's still a higher chance to get one you don't own. 5>3

[oblique vortex]

I guess the math does check out, but that doesn't stop it from being infuriating. Maybe I just need to stop using Artificer on Underworld runs.

[plain belfry]

Is it safe for me to clock out for a year and come back once the game is done

[chrome adder]

yeah dunno why it wouldn’t be

[shy zephyr]

they said development will continue throughout 2025 so you can expect a late 2025/early 2026 release date

[rotund sonnet]

I imagine early 2026, nobody will want to release games in the same year as gta6(overhyped game btw)

[dreamy cargo]

please be on 2026
hades 1 agaisnt TLOU2 and hades 2 agaisnt GTA6 is so cursed

but if we got the full realese early I aint complaining, i need the full story 😭

and Hades 2 will be my GOTY no matter what tho

[shy zephyr]

January 1st release date just so it doesn't compete with gta for awards

also that way I won't have to choose between doom the dark ages and h2 for my goty

[dreamy cargo]

I have alot of opinions on "Doom with a shield game"

[abstract terrace]

whatr is tlou2

[dreamy cargo]

The Last Of Us 2

[abstract terrace]

ohh

[vagrant whale]

Hades II is my GOTY this year and it’s not even finished yet

[hollow ember]

Hades II is the game of the century fr

[sleek lark]

hades II is a timeless classic

[foggy magnet]

Ehhhh these are entirely different genres and sizes of games

Like there's no competition between these as much

They're both games yea but an indie roguelike and an AAA crime rpg are not going to really impact eachother's market beyond that

[dreamy cargo]

Yeah.
I'm talking about GOTY(Game Of The Year) status.
On the game awards, the "best games" compete for GOTY, no matter the size or budget

[foggy magnet]

Goty is a meaningless award anyway

[dreamy cargo]

Don't get me wrong, I don't value the game awards, as an event that high.
THE game awards is and big ad at this point

[foggy magnet]

The last of us part 1 has 200+ goty awards and I dont think it has released in 200 different years

It's a marketing title and has always been there's no official version of it that has any more say than another, just one that gets watched more by the online audience

[dreamy cargo]

Also, Hades got GOTY in most places.
I consider Hades the GOTY of 2020, even tho ppl only really call GOTY what the game awards said

[foggy magnet]

I dont think they do

(Some) online people do, but that's a fraction of players

Like most folks I know, if they even care about calling something goty, just have their own list lol

My goty usually didnt even come out that year it's just the game I loved most that year

This year it's between hades 2 and alan wake 2 for me I think

I am your beast is a close contender tho

[dreamy cargo]

oooh, I saw alot of this game on bluesky a couple months ago
Didn't say its launch

"Similar to games you have played; ULTRAKILL , DOOM (2016)"
I really gotta play it

[foggy magnet]

Ye you should

I'm biased tho I have like 10 world records lol

[dreamy cargo]

If I had money I would buy now and ask for you to guide me.
thats how I learned to play ultrakill

[foggy magnet]

I have a full 100% all levels video with a speed guide in it lol

[regal pilot]

Will there be steam achievements once the game leaves early access?

[vagrant finch]

Definitely

[sand void]

if you ask me Hades > tLoA and any GTA 🤷🏻‍♂️ , but I mean, I'm biased

when I played tLoA I was expecting this ground breaking game and I was like... is that it?

suffered from overhype for me

[unique tinsel]

what's tloa

[dreamy cargo]

The Last Of Anyofus
idk

[unique tinsel]

huh, never heard of it

[dreamy cargo]

was a lil joke

[rapid badger]

I think the new legend of Zelda game

I forgot the actual name

[unique tinsel]

Echoes of Wisdom?

[dreamy cargo]

i mean, Z is close to A, so maybe they mistiped The Legend Of Zelda

[unique tinsel]

i think the conversation means it was probably supposed to be last of us.

[weary tartan]

the last of aus

rip australia ://

[dreamy cargo]

the last of us 2 being the last of AllUs makes sense

[haughty pilot]

I had to reread this 3 times to recognize what game this is💀

[shy zephyr]

the last of us has more remakes/remasters than original games
hades only has original games
ez w 💪🔥💯

[signal pewter]

So after waiting for the early access religiously for months, if not years, I ended up not getting it!
I played through the early access of Hades 1 and I think I would prefer to play the final product this time around.

I expect the early access period to go for at least a good year.
But I don't remember seeing a timeline and I seem to remember that Hades 1 had something akin to it.

Did I miss it?

[fast plover]

nah we're still in early access and have been for six months, we've had one major update and six patch updates so far, with at least two major updates left to go (next one set to be in about february-april 2025)

i personally would expect it to last for longer than a year; late 2025 at the soonest, but realistically somewhere like early/mid 2026

i'd recommend getting it now, though! there's a ton of content already available, if a slight bit lacking in story compared to the first game (mostly because it's just not a finished narrative yet)

[wheat turret]

🕋

[haughty pilot]

the game is like at least 175% of the quantity of gameplay of H1 if not more

[fast plover]

this is true! game's not even close to finished and it's still packed with gameplay content

it has all six weapons too

[signal pewter]

Thank you for your answer.
For me it wasn't about gameplay or content. Hades 1 was already fantastic before rebalanced and refined gameplay. And what little (not so little actualy) content was more than enough.
It was the difference beteween the narative in early and final.
The story and dynamics beteween the characters is still being worked on, others might not have been introduced yet.
So as much as I would enjoy the gameplay, I'd rather wait a bit and play the story the way it was meant to be told.

Not that the early access isn't interesting on that aspect. I actualy like some of the early designs in Hades 1 a little more than the final ones, but it's something I'd rather explore after finishing the final product. a what might have been, thing.

Either way, gonna have to be patient!

[fast plover]

that's fair! i just thought i'd mention the amount of content since i know that's a big concern people have when it comes to games in early access, but wanting to wait until the story is complete is perfectly valid (hell, i think most people are already planning to restart their save file for the full story experience once 1.0 comes out, myself included)

[sacred pike]

am still waiting on thefull version, hated the weapons and their boring synergies

[shy zephyr]

[chrome adder]

when is the last time you played? the weapons feel much better than they did at launch

[green needle]

I used to think the same way but now I like all but 2 aspects

and I love at least 1 aspect of every weapon

[jade heron]

Are the torches better now?

[foggy magnet]

Yea

[sacred pike]

i played when the game first came out

[sacred pike]

is the axe good now?

[hazy umbra]

...it's always been good lmao

[cyan idol]

Everything is good. Just need to get used to the style of the moves ^^

[chrome adder]

||mel|| and ||than|| axe got buffs, ||than axe has a huge attack speed increase on top of the crit chance meaning it is easy to pull off the full 3 hit combo||, ||mel axe outputs monstrous damage and gives max hp||, new sorceress means spin to win is much more viable, and a lot of hammers got buffed or reworked

the block got removed for a multihit rising slash

[vast willow]

exept for the skull

[cyan idol]

Skull is great

I am a skull enjoyer