h2-builds-and-combat

[plain fossil]

Its the best option yeah ignore the aphro people

It slows them down to the point u can amble out of the way when u feel like it

[broken pier]

I'm trying to facetank

[civic ocean]

Also what are u doin standin still charging an omega special against the root stalker

[plain fossil]

Seems to be ur guiding philosophy

[past salmon]

Omg patch notes no way

[broken pier]

lol my thumbs are locked in place on my hands, so I'm terrible at playing evasively lol

[sour cape]

You may like Blitz blocking build 😎

Just cast and stand on top of enemies spamming block

[past salmon]

I have woken up to patch notes today is a good day
Is new Momus good

[civic ocean]

You need to cast for that

[sour cape]

Oh true 😔

[plain fossil]

Try it and see

[broken pier]

Hey I put it on rt i'm getting better

[stoic ridge]

wow, new momus feels kinda . . .

[plain fossil]

Someone was complaining about skull charge changes tho better test that

[sour cape]

New Momus is fun, idk if its strong but watxhing all your turrets fire is cool

Wish Apollo would work for Omega cast

[past salmon]

Weren't skull changes just omega attack charging quicker?

[broken pier]

Skull special lost all of it's mobility powers, can't dash through enemies or cross ponds/objects anymore, so it's a dead wep for me

[sour cape]

Skull is rip?

[past salmon]

Wait wtf did they do 😭

[civic ocean]

Does the omega not go through enemies anymore?

[sour cape]

tbh the only skull I plaued was Persephone

[spare kite]

Huh??

[broken pier]

nope

[winter wind]

New Momus is way more fun now! Reminds me of Zeus shield

[tall notch]

Since I can't test new Eos and don't know if I still love it, I'll revert my server name to this one for now

[spare kite]

Do you just bounce from ebemies now or what

[broken pier]

no they wall u

[civic ocean]

Big eris buff you can see how ugly the bell is she gave u now

[hollow stag]

I blew 7 Nightmare on Momus 😭

[past salmon]

Wait but there is no mention of skull special changes in patch notes?

[stoic ridge]

i uh, dont think you will lmao, you will become a true moros believer

[sour cape]

Well you knew this was likely coming 😭

[tall notch]

Giving Mel the ugliest thing she owned is so in character

[tired fulcrum]

Polymorph is so cheap now

[civic ocean]

It's bumpy

[sour cape]

Wolf Howl is 40 magick 😂

[past salmon]

I am so down for Momus to be bad lmao 😭

[civic ocean]

Arooo

[tall notch]

New Moros looks promising but even if I like it, I won't steal the title of #1 fan from the true Moros enjoyers

[hollow stag]

7 Nightmare on Skull, and got another 7 left

[civic ocean]

Bad news

[sour cape]

Also Hexes are so much cheaper in shop 👀👀

[spare kite]

Wolf howl my beloved

[sour cape]

They cost like 60 gold now

[past salmon]

There is no chance it's close to old Momus right

[spare kite]

Damn

[stoic ridge]

the omega attack on flames attacks like 4 times faster now so the explosions descimate skelly with no boons

[broken pier]

Nope, I'd clip it if I could, but like the punchers and the crab sharks, just wall you, I tried to special through on and got speared in the face like uhhhhh

[civic ocean]

I think you have to be like 300 iq but it's still quite good

Not as good tho for sure

[past salmon]

Oh well that's fine
If it takes skill

[tired fulcrum]

Why did they nerf darkside and total eclipse

[sour cape]

From what I can tell, def not as good as 40 emg specials

[tall notch]

It's Korbin' time???

[sour cape]

But its a more interesting weapon now

[civic ocean]

Wolf Howl costs 40 mana and a path can give you guaranteed crit on landing

[plain fossil]

Can u still get room 1 selene

[brittle prairie]

Moonbeam Buff giving you up to 10 choices for path of stars from a selene pickup helps a lot

[past salmon]

Ok I need to get in and test skull

[broken pier]

3 in a row rn

[past salmon]

Is the Erebus boon chances noticeable btw?

[fervent coyote]

Oh sh*t they DOGGED moon water

[stoic ridge]

just did as you posted this lmao

[tall notch]

Oo so if you get Korbed you can spam it even with base mana, neat

[fervent coyote]

15 now yeah it’s wraps

[spare kite]

200 mp cost incoming

[calm arch]

40 mana at base? or do you mean with the upgrades

[brittle prairie]

deserved

[civic ocean]

You can get korbed but the hexes are kind good now like wolf howl is sick

[fervent coyote]

I mean yeah it was busted but like you gotta have something busted to counter Night Bloom

[brittle prairie]

You could easily stack like 15-25 moonwater procs for chronos

[calm arch]

can you use the path of stars to make wolf howl cost 10 mana

[broken pier]

yeah it's harder to trigger and heals 10 less and I'm not sure if it wasn't before but def affected by the vow now, healing 15 healed me for 8 on 50%

[sour cape]

Its still good if you get the +10 heal uogrades

[brittle prairie]

yes, I got it down to 20 my mostvrecent run and that was with only 1 path of stars pickup

[calm arch]

lmao

wolf spam build viable if you disable the timer then

[spare kite]

Ik what triggered dyno but still (easier inf crits)

[civic ocean]

@turbid hull questioooon when you're not super busy

[brittle prairie]

the more broken part is restoring damage taken in last 3 seconds and invuln

[turbid hull]

I'm in bed rn

[sour cape]

Yea and the 50% damage bonus one too

[turbid hull]

it's midnight. I can look at it tomorrow

[civic ocean]

K ill ping u tmrw

[turbid hull]

thx

[tired fulcrum]

Every other room for me is still a minor find

[sour cape]

Moonwaters honestly fine, needed a base value nerf, heal for 75 every zone is kinda 😔

[past salmon]

Oh wait it's a 4 god pool now

[tired fulcrum]

More than every other

[calm arch]

rip the double up boon exploit

does it still work with artificer

[past salmon]

How did I miss that it's a 4 god pool now
Wait that's gonna be interesting

[plain fossil]

Its not good for high fear lul

[calm arch]

would be nice if there was something to do with psyche, i have over 2000 sitting around

[past salmon]

Yeah I think it probably sucks

[plain fossil]

U dont have enough boons to abuse it and also u cant force duos/legendaries anym

[spare kite]

I wonder why they decided on 3 first

[stable herald]

eventually they'll add currency sinks like in Hades 1

[past salmon]

Is new Circe good

[past salmon]

Vow of forsaking nerf is good
A vow being helpful is silly

[low bear]

New Thanatos is also really great

[plain fossil]

@broken pier what are u talking about skull charge still goes through enemies

[past salmon]

How is new Mel axe it sounds good but I don't know numbers so?

[low bear]

I feel like old one might be better thanks go Zeus cast synergy, but this one is much more fun

[plain fossil]

i just tried in erebus

[broken pier]

It only goes through enemies if you kill them or they're small

[brittle prairie]

honestly it looks quite good all things considered, free mana regen, with stronger omega, eso with the hammer changes for omega special, seems very good

[sour cape]

If only they'd add list of forsaken boons rather than using a 3rd party app

[plain fossil]

fine i'll do 3 rooms instead of 1

[calm arch]

they should just cross out boons on the codex when you 4sake them

[sour cape]

Mel axe seems crazy high stats +35 power and hp

Doing 75 dmg per dash attack

[broken pier]

like the big like rolling root things you can't go through, the big punchers, and the crapsharks with the spears from oceanus

[past salmon]

Oh mel axe probably goes crazy

[brittle prairie]

It is, With Aphro and third hit strike twice I was doing 1100+ hits

[sour cape]

and also the Dash hammer was buffed, now it hits twice, so H1 meta 👀👀

spam dash attacks go go

[broken pier]

or like, the shadowspitter miniboss you just like punch him instead of shooting through to the other side

[brittle prairie]

this stacks with the melinoe dash strike getting +35 its crazy

[spare kite]

Welcome back double edge

[plain fossil]

100% u can charge through sharks im doing it right now

i got no idea what ur talking about sir

[sour cape]

Mel axe from zero to hero?

[calm arch]

double edge with 1 dash*

[sour cape]

Starting with extra hp is so nice too

[brittle prairie]

unironically, hits like a freight train

[calm arch]

mel axe brought arthur back

[spare kite]

Axe really is arthur

[sour cape]

Yea Mel Axe is arthur now

[past salmon]

Anyways who cares about the rest of the patch the reign of terror that was Momus is dead !
Momus reliers in shambles

[brittle prairie]

with Titan, Frinos, and Melinoe Moonstone u start with 145 HP

[sour cape]

Sometimes you just want big hits

[civic ocean]

Omega

[past salmon]

oh did omega special get nerfed?

[calm arch]

my favorite hammer twisting crash is still safe

[sour cape]

Granted Mel Axe just being a stat buff is boring like Momus but better boring and good than boring and bad 💀

[civic ocean]

Im trying it on skelly rn the omega special on Persephone specifically

No longer pierces enemies

[spare kite]

That's such a ??? Change

[midnight gate]

Im not a fan of the 4 god pool 3 gods was plenty and led to more focused builds

[plain fossil]

oh on persephone

[civic ocean]

You can drive immediately

[plain fossil]

its fine on mel let me check medea

[broken pier]

oh, I didn't think it would be aspect specific, that's extra booty

[civic ocean]

You can control where it goes immediately now

[past salmon]

medea is completely unchanged I just checked

[plain fossil]

medea is unchanged

[long osprey]

Does Old Grudge (-20% health on Chronos from pappy) and Knuckle Bones (-15% health for next guardian) stack?

[civic ocean]

Yeah but badly

[plain fossil]

lmao new eos is so cute

[long osprey]

Badly how? Just totals to 35% or does it scale some other way?

[plain fossil]

man torch regular special sucks now wtf

[calm arch]

torch has a regular special?

[civic ocean]

It would deal 35 but Chronos stops at 25% hp to summon minions

[plain fossil]

u can move around while firing more easily but it does 15 damage base and the aoe is smaller

it doesnt ever hit twice now and also can miss more easily i think

[past salmon]

wtf lol
Random Medea test run im entering Hecate at 50 seconds?????
Wtf is this RNG LOL

[plain fossil]

wtf is 15 damage base this is the worst im actually in shambles

[civic ocean]

The attack does more now

[spare kite]

How many skips was this lmfao

[civic ocean]

20 base

[long osprey]

Damn, right

[civic ocean]

Knuckle bones is still good for chronos tbh

As long as you can avoid the instakills

[plain fossil]

not anymore

[civic ocean]

You do go mad fast with it

[neon ivy]

should i use Knuckle Bones or Evil Eye for Chronos 🥲

[calm arch]

neither, use a good keepsake

[past salmon]

like everything you can get lol

[civic ocean]

Use the toof! The toof!

[plain fossil]

evil eye is fine for chronos if its active

[civic ocean]

U got the 55 god run

[neon ivy]

ok ya that was my other thought and i have it 3 stars

[plain fossil]

im more of a tooth or pin enjoyer

[neon ivy]

i just didn’t know if damage would be better

[past salmon]

Hecate fight was mid tho
Leaving erebus at 2 minutes
Also my boon setup is absolute poop cuz I was just clicking random stuff lmao

[long osprey]

Yeah I have a couple boons for less damage as well so knuckle bones should carry me smoothly through Chronos

[past salmon]

oh keepsake art!

[broken pier]

ooooooooooooooh - they fixed advancing whirlwind so you can dash cancel

[long osprey]

Yeah the keepsake art is so cool

[tall notch]

It's ok, you're practicing for approval process

[sour cape]

I like it for Zeus blitz slreading

What eas torch special base dmg before?

[plain fossil]

great, we have the worlds worst skull charge

25

[sour cape]

Oof that is kinda a hefty nerf 👀

But! A lot more responsive now

So im enjoying torches more

Eos you can summon a cute ghost

and then sit back and let em clear the room for you 😂

[tall notch]

How cute is the ghost?

[plain fossil]

its pink

[sour cape]

Very adorable ghost

[past salmon]

this is the fastest actually Zdps run of all time
this is such a shame this seed is going to waste lmao

[sour cape]

its big and fat and wanders around

[plain fossil]

the aoe is very large too

[sour cape]

giving some big aoe dmg and clones your Specials when you use them

[tall notch]

PINK AURA??

[past salmon]

3 minute 30 Oceanus leaving
I only got an attack boon in shop before scylla
Still no special boon
This run is so goofy

[sour cape]

Yes if you get Apollo Legendary and Aphro zspecial, you'll have sooo many specials flying around

[plain fossil]

it explodes in aoe maybe as big as ur cast

[sour cape]

The boss damage is not great but it clears rooms well

[plain fossil]

actually bigger

[astral plume]

would this be the appropriate place to ask questions about weapons?

[stable herald]

yep

[plain fossil]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/751691459580919834/1247679845018763314/image.png?ex=6660e7e7&is=665f9667&hm=11f813b9cac965ecbab941fc4387a7650b318fec0624cc29395f04467d973c53&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=750&height=434

[astral plume]

okay cool, is anyone else having trouble with the aspect of medea skull? i know the attacks are supposed to stay with you but like it literally does not even fire from the skull when i attack

[plain fossil]

check that pink ass out

[tall notch]

Cute.

[sour cape]

It also changes color based on your attack boon

[fervent coyote]

real quick for ionic gain when it says reduced by 70% does it mean 100 -> 70 or 100 -> 30

[plain fossil]

100--> 30

[sour cape]

Apollos a big yellow ghost 👀

[fervent coyote]

dude is there ever a reason to pick that

[sour cape]

Not really no

Its awful, since any primes mess up your build

[stable herald]

yeah, you're supposed to use the attack to load a skull and then dash into an enemy with the special to detonate it for big damage

[past salmon]

oh was possessed array buffed???
No downside?

[plain fossil]

actually new mel axe probably decent dashstrike build

[tall notch]

If you're doing too well in a run and think to yourself "there's no way to throw this", you can take ionic gain and be proven wrong

[astral plume]

oooh okay, thanks
i was just severely misunderstanding how to use it lol

[plain fossil]

possessed wasnt changed

[sour cape]

Yikes staff hammers got some pretty nasty downsides

Well the double attack one mKes you take 35% more dmg

[past salmon]

it doesnt list a downside anymore
lemme test

[broken pier]

@burnt tulip makes the aspect useless you mean, what's the point of a charge build where you can't use it offensively but still be able to dodge attacks?

[past salmon]

yeah it was buffed
Skulls drop normal speed now
Possessed is kinda of insane actually

[gritty heath]

i miss hera attack eos already

[spare kite]

Lmao what

[past salmon]

ok wait this hammer is crazy now

[tired fulcrum]

Oh timeslow affects axe omega special now

[plain fossil]

wtaf thats insane

[past salmon]

this alone might make 50F so much more doable
Its so much dps and room clear

[burnt tulip]

i dont think its useless at all. if anything its much more fun than it was before cause it actually feels different to the other skull aspects now. you dont even need to farm glory cause you get the "car gameplay" no matter what. just abuse the living hell out of boons that play well into it #h2-victory-boasting message

before the changes it felt like melinoe but with different passive buffs

[plain fossil]

hey mel axe is so much better with the damage

[broken pier]

lol just based on your dmg taken I can tell you are at least 10x better at this game than me lol

[burnt tulip]

just play around with some things. its actually a really fun aspect to play now imo

[broken pier]

most of my runs have 900+ dmg taken

[plain fossil]

i wonder why

[burnt tulip]

probably not anymore now cause the shield lasts longer i think

i think youre shielded for the entire duration of the "car mode"

[broken pier]

hmmmm, if you're shielded while moving that might make up for it, i'll try it out some more, but my usual reg special jump through and through to finish when im out of mana doesn't really work anymore

[modern yacht]

Do you try to build glory or do you just get it every now and then?

[burnt tulip]

no i dont like the cast gameplay at all so i dont get any glory at all now, ill have to try playing around that but ive not felt like doing it so far. the good thing about the changes is that you get the persephone car gameplay no matter whether you farm glory or not

you just cruise around for a second even if you have no glory at all

[broken pier]

I'm the same, I don't cast at all (but I do like casting with the new momus)

[modern yacht]

I do like the special mwmnt

[tall notch]

Casting probably saves more than 900 damage over the course of a higher fear run

[modern yacht]

Does glory only build when omega cast expires

[burnt tulip]

it only builds from omega cast dmg yea

[broken pier]

casting doesn't block any attacks though, it just keeps them still , which doesn't resolve my actual issue of I am terrible at being evasive

[modern yacht]

Damn that has horrible synergy with hera cast

[tall notch]

It blocks the enemies from rushing down and attacking you. Cyclone also slows down projectiles if you have that

[tired fulcrum]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1051942150025269309/1247682586570919966/Hades_II_2024-06-04_15-43-42.mp4?ex=6660ea75&is=665f98f5&hm=d5a3df7d37853e8ecbba90825f5446bbf5e1b688295ec9bfb8418195a0948aec& bruh funny bug why

[broken pier]

I do like cyclone cast, if it comes up I'll use it, same with the weak one

[burnt tulip]

i tried running hera on special earlier (which was my go to pre-patch) and it honestly felt like trash for some reason. dunno why. it still shredded through sirens but rooms felt really tedious to get through. pre-patch they melted.

perhaps the hits are calculated differently or something

[modern yacht]

Thanatos axe feels so much better ngl

Esp with white antler

[past salmon]

oh weird
Thats weird
@plain fossil possessed array damage also isnt counted as omega attack damagae anymore
Its just added to your attack

Also new Chronos visual effects for instakill move is like horrible I think
Its so much visual noise

[worthy cairn]

They finally nerf it

[tired fulcrum]

It fixes itself after the first room

[burnt tulip]

probably even more. you can play around it really hard and use it do offensively dash through aoes youd otherwise take fat damage from. the ability would also be complete trash if it didnt absorb damage. imagine trying to not die in high fear whenever you use omega special lmao. impossible.

ill have to try if it blocks chronos oneshot ability as well

[worthy cairn]

Oh

[civic ocean]

Hey if you can take 900 dmg and win go for it

[past salmon]

of circe seems really good now huh
12 hits is a big buff

also big omega damage?

[burnt tulip]

the point is that you dont take the damage, the shield you get from the special just nullifies it

[plain fossil]

but it does an actual omega attack with the aoe right

[past salmon]

ooo idk if I like new eos
Its like
Dire Candle
lol

[plain fossil]

yes its dire candle that hangs about

[past salmon]

yeah its actually crazy dps
Like
Insanely good

[plain fossil]

hm theyve reduced the buffer timing on the big third axe swing

[past salmon]

also than axe is like
Really fast
That is cool

[plain fossil]

u dont really need to special cancel anymore to avoid it i think u can just pause a tick

[past salmon]

how fast does persephone charge now
What is the damage requirement for full bar

[low bear]

It charges very fast

[burnt tulip]

insanely fast if you play around it, which i am not sure is the way to go

[gritty heath]

How do you build this now that Eos doesnt have omega attack?

[past salmon]

I mean persephone was already mainly used for casts anyway
Literal stat stick

[sour cape]

You got the cool Omega special though

[low bear]

I disagree I find myself using my entire kit with Persephone

[past salmon]

if you are using your entire kit literally just play mel skulls is the thing

[burnt tulip]

its not anymore though, its its own thing now. it plays very differently compared to the other aspects even if you dont play around the glory charge mechanic.

[civic ocean]

Looks like just under 1/3 of the bar from a Moon OCast on skelly

But the max is less than 5 seconds (or, at least, it's missing the charge completely so it's definitely shorter)

[plain fossil]

i have absolutely no idea i havent clicked new eos yet other than 2 minutes on skelly

[gritty heath]

oki

[sour cape]

I went for Apollo Attack and Blitz special

It clears rooms safely and fast

[past salmon]

does zeus cast damage chartge glory or nah

[sour cape]

The boss dmg is not the best though 💀

[gritty heath]

I think at that point it's a distinctly different build

[plain fossil]

idk how to plan with 4 gods man its so confusing

[sour cape]

Ive also noticed the game really wants you to fill your god pool

[past salmon]

lol
Gun for triple earth and uhh
Hope last guy is Zeus for static shock?

[steel sequoia]

pink aura is also weird now, the flames moves weirdly

[plain fossil]

i wanna play with mana a bit i think

since theres new hexes to try so i dw static shock today

[past salmon]

oh born gain didnt get changed did it
Boon updates are next patch>

[steel sequoia]

i miss so many hits with flames now

[tired fulcrum]

Oh that what eos means by copying specials

[plain fossil]

flame special is tiny now i hate it

[tired fulcrum]

I feel like eos is golden rule angle

[past salmon]

yeah this kinda sucks
Moros actually nerfed

[gritty heath]

Moros + inverted spark makes it work again

[stoic ridge]

nah dude, attack speed buff on moros more than makes up for it, just did a moros run and absolutely destroyed everything with trash boons

[past salmon]

oh true the attack speed buff is kind of insane huh

[civic ocean]

Could you take poseidon special and like sandwich them between you and your buddy

[sour cape]

Tge summoned Daybreak copies your special

So if you omega special it also gets a copy

[tired fulcrum]

Are all torches omega special angle now

[past salmon]

Wait Eos got done so bad
Not only did it get given Dire candle it doesnt even benefit from the attack speed increase torches got thi is poop 😭

[sour cape]

I like Eos more than before

Summon a ghost!

Rather than just attack spam 😭

[gritty heath]

attack spam fun

[past salmon]

sI think Moros is still just both angle
Unfortunately Moros main problem will remain its problem
Close range and also magick

[modern yacht]

Hermes close call is silly

[past salmon]

attack is like rlly fast now
Like kind of crazily so

[sour cape]

its so cool now though you can watch your ghost blow everythibg up 👀👀

while you hide back

[civic ocean]

I kinda wanna do huntress panic moros and just like get sick with it so the shots don't get bunched up.

[gritty heath]

old eos was so good for spreading hitch

[sour cape]

Truee

But ghost can still spread hitch, its aoe is huge

Or the specials tbh

[midnight gate]

i prefer old eos

[gritty heath]

if ur doing specials, you're not doing attack which is where the damage in that build came from

[sour cape]

Well you can only have 1 Daybreak out right 😭

[past salmon]

ok im a big fan of persphone changes
It feels like an actual aspect now

[quiet axle]

Any thoughts on a build for farming bones to buy more Nightmare? I've been trying to save the 1300 gold for purchase at the final Charon, but that seems rarely offered. I did all of the weapons at 24 fear to obtain Nightmare that way, already.

[broken pier]

buy @ 1000 bones ea from broker

[quiet axle]

Right. I'm looking to gain bones faster. I guess farming.

[sour cape]

Use Toula and fishing rod

Fish are the best way for bones imo

[broken pier]

^^^ this is the way, just use bone aspects with toula + rod

[sour cape]

And save 1300 for final Charon shop, dont play with extra cost fear

[mystic bison]

You can also get Poseidon to increase minor yields

[sour cape]

Yea Poseidon too

[spare kite]

YES! HAHA.mp3

[distant root]

ahhh momus special spam is no more

[past salmon]

Praise be

new Momus seems actually cool aswell
Big W's

[distant root]

i do NOT like new eos tho

[tired fulcrum]

Huh eos thingy seems to benefit from huntress its doing 300 with no boon

[broken pier]

I'm loving it, it's so much fun

[distant root]

that slow projectile?

[sour cape]

Yea noticed that Daybreak does

[distant root]

kinda sad they removed eos's boomerang type attack and made it a daedalus hammer

[past salmon]

oh
That
Is certainly not intended I would think

[sour cape]

yea its an Omega attack

[past salmon]

ok new persephone is so fun actually
Skulls never stop winning

[plain fossil]

Isnt it supposed to?

[past salmon]

no its an omega attack

[plain fossil]

Oh i suppose

I wonder if they crit with the omega card

[past salmon]

okay yeah persephone Zeus is nuts lol
Omega cast charges glory bar in like 2 seconds

[stoic ridge]

i figured it would do that lmao

[zenith bolt]

try geyser ring

[past salmon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1246695893361496087/1247694270878580746/20240605093111_1.jpg?ex=6660f557&is=665fa3d7&hm=6ecd96fd00df558d76568cd4c76dfaa29544e5697f73a466960704ee7decea88&
Like that felt crazy

[zenith bolt]

(not memeing)

[past salmon]

isnt geyser ring still just absolute poop 😭

[zenith bolt]

i think it benefits from omega % and cast % now

[stoic ridge]

geyser ring with reworked momus . . . . ?

[past salmon]

oh true?
Ill do a run

[loud fox]

hey i just want to figure out if im bad or not: is eris just unfair or is it me?

[zenith bolt]

oh huh TIL if nemesis gets a free hit on you it'll break armor first

another trusty shield W i suppose

[past salmon]

yeah
Trusty shield never loses

[plain fossil]

hey did u guys know that the spear throwers in a2 surface cannot hit u if ur right in their face at range 0

[sour cape]

She deals a ton of dmg but there are ways to negate her too

Hestia Sprint makes it so she cant hit you with any bullet

[plain fossil]

the spear will always whiff it doesnt have a hitbox until its about 1 character width away from the mob

[loud fox]

i truly dont know what to do

[loud fox]

damn i did not think of that

[sour cape]

Take Hestia spritn and just run around her

[plain fossil]

thats kinda interesting, idk when it would be relevant since u dont wanna be that close but still

[sour cape]

Or Slow time Hex works on her and lets you get tons of free dmg

[loud fox]

aight will try, thanks 😛

[tired fulcrum]

Is there a way to make eos omega not run off to who knows where

[magic moss]

dont miss

[plain fossil]

the eos guy does contact damage as well it looks like - 40 base?

[zenith bolt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/362939825000677377/1247695384768417934/geyser_ring_persephone_-_real.mp4?ex=6660f660&is=665fa4e0&hm=d19387f15445495e7ed0e36068aa0b85693d1f58dbdf9fceced05e136d6789fd& proof of concept

[tired fulcrum]

I mean even if i toss it on top of a boss itll just run off after a couple seconds

It seems to have some seeking for enemies ig but it wont like 180 after it goes through? Idk how this thing works

[past salmon]

huh
Im trying it now it definitely doesnt feel as good as Zeus lol

[magic moss]

has anyone tried new momus with geyser ring?

[past salmon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1246695893361496087/1247695925003161690/image.png?ex=6660f6e1&is=665fa561&hm=77a9408c0a5769cbe7e113540466398affa4ab63c6f8f3076b3140dfeb2c89b5&
Game making it real hard to keep trying geyser lmfao

[zenith bolt]

i think with geyser ring you could go like pos aphro island getaway

[magic moss]

also how yall linking the png files directly

[tired fulcrum]

Game telling you that storm ring is better

[spare kite]

Send to another discord > right click > copy link (not message link)

[magic moss]

ah

[plain fossil]

momus with omega cast is quite interesting u can have a regular cast up at the same time as the momus repeats

how does it work with apollo cast

[spare kite]

Only copies the explosion

[plain fossil]

sadge

i cant get the eos pink dude to crit at all with the card btw i think its just counts as a really fat normal attack

[sour cape]

Only copies the normal cast explosion, not the sunstrike

[past salmon]

ok well
Geyser ring isnt horrible ig
But I did like
Not make timer in erebus 😭

[stoic ridge]

maybe test it with omega moves damage bonus boons

[plain fossil]

eh i guess i can start a run

actually na im lazy u guys can do it

[stoic ridge]

the amount of attack speed on torches with attack speed boons bugs out the game audio even more than before

[steel sequoia]

momus is horrible for cast now, i think its most likely an omega attack base build.

prolly an hera attack will be good

[sour cape]

Prob you want all of them

Omega attack, special and cast since you dont want to be overwriting them

Can maybe doe some cool combos mixing different curses

[past salmon]

oh you can have each individual omega move have a turret thingy at once

wait actually big W change
I love aspects that encourage using more than one button

[plain fossil]

hey thats actually cool

[past salmon]

yeah
Awesome change honestly

[sour cape]

Yea I like it

If its too weak, can always buff the cast 🙏

I wanna see the madness of triple Apollo

[past salmon]

will it copy the range of super nova I wonder?

[sour cape]

No

[hollow jacinth]

Didn't have much time to play the new patch today yet, so I wanted to ask: are axe enjoyers eating well this patch?

[sour cape]

subsequent casts go back to default range 😭

[stoic ridge]

every axe is absurdly good now

[past salmon]

yeah both axes feel really good

[plain fossil]

mel axe is a lot better

[cursive oyster]

OH WAIT THEY BUFFED AXE OMEGA SPECIAL

charon fans eating good

[sour cape]

Mel Axe is boring but good now

[past salmon]

Im almost positive thanatos is a big buff aswell
The attack speed is crazy

[sour cape]

Charon is feasting

[past salmon]

its like a lot safer

[sour cape]

Than axe uhhh idk I dont like it as much as before but I just used it as a cast spam aspect 😂

[stoic ridge]

thanatos axe and mel axe are attack spam weapons but both with rather different playstyles

[plain fossil]

the axe omega special is a change its not a strict buff i think mynt will be quite unhappy with it

[past salmon]

just run persephone instead and you have an actual weapon and not a stat stick lol

[plain fossil]

u cant really do short blocks anymore

[sour cape]

20% crit cast though 😎

[hollow jacinth]

Awesome

[plain fossil]

u tap the button and it locks you to the full block animation it seems

[past salmon]

yeah this doesnt feel amazing

[cursive oyster]

not anymore

[sour cape]

But yea Persephone it is now

[worldly oriole]

I took demeter special for eos thinking my big ghost would freeze enemies with its blasts but that didn't happen, is that not what "copies special" is supposed to mean?

[hollow jacinth]

The new torches also felt way better to use from the like 20 mins I was able to play

[plain fossil]

on the bright side u dont need to do it to cancel third hit of axe attack anymore since they removed a lot of the buffer time

[sour cape]

No you cast your special and your ghost gets copies

[worldly oriole]

????

[sour cape]

which would freeze

[plain fossil]

both first/second and second/third attacks its much easier to just pause and not get the next sequence

[past salmon]

the only change im not big on is Eos
And also torch special size reduction in general

[sour cape]

You summon big ghost, then spam your special

[fair geyser]

Your Specials also come out of your Daybreaker, meaning you essentially have double Special output

[sour cape]

or Omega special

[plain fossil]

if theres a ghost up and u click special/omega special the ghost also launches one

[dusty sapphire]

the Daybreaker blasts themselves are your omega attack and gets the effects of your attack. it then also fires any specials you fire from its position

[past salmon]

ok wait what
I didnt know this

[sour cape]

Yes

[past salmon]

wait why does it do this 😭

[ocean ibex]

"copies" is not very clear lol

[fair geyser]

eos essentially doubles special damage and also creates giant blasts from your o-attack

very high damage aspect

[sour cape]

Daybreak gives you lots of Specials.

And also Apollo Legendary gives you 2 ghosts which each copies your special

Although it doesnt look like they copy the Omega doubled special 😭

[hollow jacinth]

Does weed cutter also effect the eos blasts or just the projectile

[plain fossil]

why are u complaining its another hybrid weapon

[past salmon]

not really complaining its just kinda silly lol

[worldly oriole]

OHHH i just tried it for the first time in chronos fight yeah that looks sick

[plain fossil]

im not sure that it affects either atm, it seems to be behaving like a regular attack not an omega. I recommend testing

[past salmon]

ok then eos seems cool I eat my words
I wish special size wasnt reduced so much though

[worldly oriole]

definitely need to tighten up the wording tho

[plain fossil]

special size and damage reduction can eat my ass man i just wanna play special spam torches they werent op before 😦

[past salmon]

yeah it feels really poop

[sour cape]

Does the Omega special still dk good dmg?

[past salmon]

its like they are begging us to chuck poseidon on specials 😭

[weak furnace]

okay new momus new special goes crazy

[tough pasture]

I recently learned that one can use the moonstone axe's special in between the 2nd and 3rd hit of the 3-hit combo to negate damage.

That's pretty cool.

Also, there's a way to use the shield block and move in a direction between the 2nd and 3rd hit of the 3 hit combo but I can't do it consistently/reliably on a controller.

[broken pier]

loooool, I finally make it to my first 32 phase 2, and its on the new momus

[past salmon]

New Momus everything goes crazy

[tough pasture]

New momus? Did we get a patch?

[past salmon]

yeah

[sour cape]

Yes new patch, lots of changes to weapons

[past salmon]

#hades2-patch-notes

[tough pasture]

Oh word? Is it even more overpowered?

[steel sequoia]

u cant stack specials on momus, ive stacked only attacks

[broken pier]

it copies your omegas 3 times, but doesn't heal u anymore

[past salmon]

no it is certainly weaker

[spare kite]

Prob not but it seems fun

[sour cape]

Momus? Its very different now, not as strong as before

[tough pasture]

Thanks. As a veteran, I should know better...

[sour cape]

But healthier and fun design

[tough pasture]

The heal was negligible so that's no big loss...but the omega is interesting.

[past salmon]

yeah
Momus requires more than one button now and is weaker
W change
Still solid I think tho

[steel sequoia]

as a caster fan im disapointed, but its a nice rework anyways

[tough pasture]

Wait...so the omega +30 damage has been removed?

[sour cape]

Yea its not super weak or strong

[past salmon]

yeah

[sour cape]

yea no more special dmg

Momus now causes your Omegas to act as turrets temporarily

[stoic ridge]

also special attack is WAY slower

[tough pasture]

"AAAAAAMMMMMMMIIIIIIIIIIIRRRRRRRRRRRR NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WHHHHHHHHHYYYYYYYYYY BBBBRRRRROOOOOOOOOOOOO"

[sour cape]

and copies the move 3 times

[stoic ridge]

momus spam is dead

[sour cape]

Momus special spam is dead

[tough pasture]

Long live Momus spam!

[steel sequoia]

basically an omega attack aspect so you can spam it, but it has slow charge and no extra damage.

[zenith bolt]

idk seems legit https://i.imgur.com/xzNejrC.jpeg

[stoic ridge]

meanwhile torches omega attack got boosted by like 100%

[past salmon]

it just feels too slow to me
I did a 32 and hit timer in erebus
Made it all the way but was kinda rough

[sour cape]

I think you wanna cycle between all 3 Omegas and try to keep them up

[steel sequoia]

u have to invest in special early for pphone probably no?

[winter wind]

Just tried out the new Eos and Moros. The Eos ghost also does the Dark Side hex special too V.92 Eos is pretty cool but the tracking seems random. The new Moros with the "V.91 Eos Hammer" is insanely stronger than the old Eos though

[past salmon]

Zeus cast was much faster in my experience
And also just does more damage in general
And also Zeus has lightning lance which makes dog fight and Chronos absurdly easy
Zeus just be king of Omega cast I think @zenith bolt

[forest veldt]

just updated the rough numbers spreadsheet. will need to do some tinkering to get idea of a build dps. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1v7sjmXin-LzZ_HySN8hfQZc_ey2AKCs06YdWGN-zimU/edit?usp=sharing

[steel sequoia]

i dont think so, you charge everything too slow and you cant stack special and cast only attacks.

basically u need atk speed from hermes or something lke that

[sour cape]

Whay you mean? Specials gey copied too

[steel sequoia]

you cant STACK not copy

[past salmon]

you cant stack attacks either?

[sour cape]

You cant stack the attack either

[steel sequoia]

you cant place 2 specials in the field, you can stack the attacks in the field

well ive stacked mine 2 times, but it costs more mana

[sour cape]

Uhhh I dont think you can 🤔

[past salmon]

hammer?
or like
Apollo leg?

[steel sequoia]

i was using aphro attack

[marsh scroll]

Has anyone else discovered this bug? I've already reported it. If you have the arcana card Judgement activated and the Night Bloom hex, in the Oceanus boss fight, if you activate Night Bloom to bring back one of the backup sirens and then they die before you defeat the quardian. Judgement activated twice (when your Siren dies, and then when you actually defeat the guardian). Giving you 6,8,10 arcana cards instead of 3,4,5.

[zenith bolt]

yes this has probably been reported like a dozen times

[marsh scroll]

Cool, good to know :]

[steel sequoia]

im watching haelian idk if he is using momus or not

[weak furnace]

okay WOW momus is insane

[sour cape]

Yea im testing on Skelly, it removes your first Omega attack if you use another

[tough pasture]

I used momus rank 2 to melt chronos so I didn't even get to experience rank 5.

So it could still be strong...

I'll have to play the reworked aspect

[sour cape]

Oh yea Momus is fun at least and seems decently good

[steel sequoia]

so mine were bugged somehow, special did and attack did not

[zenith bolt]

chaos would never not clutch up https://i.imgur.com/BLFif9E.png

[steel sequoia]

pretty sure i did in 2 runs, ill test again next time

[sour cape]

https://streamable.com/r3zbw4

Gets removed

[past salmon]

you beat me to it this is so sad

[sour cape]

Sad times

[past salmon]

But yeah
New Momus showcase for anyone who hasnt seen it ig
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1246695893361496087/1247704211014291548/NewMomus_-_Trim.mp4?ex=6660fe99&is=665fad19&hm=6cc4241a63462c2b4492ef5b85248893e07531c59b2a83feecc71dd120c827a7&

[digital hazel]

im planning to do some psyche/bone farming, what would you guys say are the most important trinkets to rank up in general? probably knuckle bones + guaranteed boons?

[steel sequoia]

anyways rip momus, that doesnt help omega cast so im sticking with persephone and charon

[wild pine]

Oh, Momus the aspect will be fine, but spamming normal specials is now much worse and there's no particular reason to take Momus if that's what you're doing. Circe probably has the most incentive now to get water flourish and stack special speed.

[plain fossil]

momus still could be ok im not sure what the setup is tho

[past salmon]

Apollo legendary high roll obviouslyt

[sour cape]

Apollo Legendary always a fun time

Get the cross Hammer too for the Omega attack

[plain fossil]

someone said it dont work with apollo cast tho 😦

[sour cape]

Yea it doesnt

[past salmon]

yeah this is very sad

[wild pine]

Torrential Downpour Momus is probably a thing

[stoic ridge]

dosnt work with zeus cast either

[past salmon]

of true wait
Torrential downpour?

[sour cape]

very sad indeed, it totally should!

[past salmon]

does it work with glorius disaster

[sour cape]

Maybe that has potential 👀👀

[wild pine]

I expect that it probably only stacks +20% damage the first time each one pops, but deals the increased damage 3 times

[stoic ridge]

or demeter and hestia cast really

[magic moss]

def the one that ranks up common on foundtain use, can go from common to heroic at max

[stoic ridge]

it basically only works with poseidon cast

[steel sequoia]

well if the cast counts for the 3 times than is totally busted, i should try that

[wild pine]

I bet it doesn't, but that you can still get the stacked damage to trigger three times without paying three times, making the ramping mana cost mostly irrelevant

[worldly oriole]

Does anyone know how vow of forsaking doesn't help you get legendaries anymore?

[past salmon]

ok im gonna try gunning for possessed array 48F medea
I think it just goes crazy

[steel sequoia]

the shower only drops once, you get the blow damage but it doesnt really worth imo

[wild pine]

Each boon slot first rolls "chance for legendary" and if it fails to be legendary it won't give you the legendary even if you're out of other boons. You just get gold.

[magic moss]

i was cooking earlier

[plain fossil]

thats good its what we were suggesting in here as a solution

[worldly oriole]

I'm glad I got my Fated List done before this patch dropped lol ty

[steel sequoia]

zeus also drops only 1 wave or bolts in momus, i dont really think it worth if u cant get value like cast speed or extra damage. but its only my opinion.

the 30 mana from charon special actually hurts a lot now

so maybe persephone will be the cast mvp

[sour cape]

Its not really that bad considering you get time slow and faster special

[steel sequoia]

circe also buffs omega cast right?

[sour cape]

Overall Charon is significantly better I find

Yes circe does too

A hugr dmg buff too! But you need to charge it up

[trim thistle]

gotta say persephone feels so good to play now

[forest veldt]

perseph looks pretty good, can hit all 3 omega special

[steel sequoia]

i liked it before lmao, need to check it later

[magic moss]

how so? like in terms of fluidity or damage or what do you think?

I just ask this cuz im a huge charon enjoyer and didnt really notice anything different

[steel sequoia]

charon was the best cast before, the special is faster and more mana intensive

you can spam but you dont have mana to spam anymore so feels a little clunkier

[sour cape]

In terms of QoL and faster base omega special charging.

Now dashing away you automatically launch special towards cursor.

Block feels more responsive and time slow on the special helps out safely getting jt out

Its 30 vs 25 mana

[steel sequoia]

the 30 mana hurts badly

[sour cape]

How? If you take Titan, you still get 3 casts per room before a mana boon

[trim thistle]

some tech for persephone, get sun worshipper and solar ring, u can charge persephone special on the minion hehe

[wild pine]

I just realized that Lucid Gain could actually be pretty good on Momus staff now. You can throw down an omega cast for damage and then after the first pop drop a defensive cast on your feet to regen mana

[weak furnace]

can also use demeter one where it follow you

[steel sequoia]

the regen is slow tho, you need at least epic to worth imo

[past salmon]

if you get local climate on Zeus persephone does it charge while you are in omega special?

[civic ocean]

If you take a rarified boon you can no longer triple dunk

[steel sequoia]

it does

[sour cape]

Fair yea

[past salmon]

thats fire

[steel sequoia]

but i dont think its enough so you can spam nonstoppable

[civic ocean]

It also doesn't last that long

[sour cape]

Id still pay more mana for the faster base charge and the time slow

[steel sequoia]

i can see you using 3 and another one to charge your mana bac

maybe ill have to check that idiot mana regen arcana

[sour cape]

Born Again is still there

and theres always pray to Chaos 🙏

I wish they'd just buff Unseen

[trim thistle]

im just sad that theres no omega attack focused axe anymore

[sour cape]

Thanatos?

You only get Omega crit so it kinda wants you to be spinning after charging up

[steel sequoia]

than feels useless for me in high fear i just get hit all the time

[sour cape]

Its def harder for me to use now that cant use Zeus Cast for crit

But maybe less skill issue players than me can make it work

[stoic ridge]

thanatos axe should charge up on omega attack too, not just attack

[zenith bolt]

chaos my beloved https://i.imgur.com/j3hgGcm.png

[steel sequoia]

omg post that build later, i luv chaos

did u got the keepsake?

[ivory mirage]

i love using charon axe with apollo cast and getting howling soul bc the cast just sticks to whoever it hits

[sour cape]

Charon feasting

[spare kite]

time to finally test the changes

[tough pasture]

So is that how players were optimizing circe for dps?

I'll have to try that.

[spare kite]

moros has finally been unlocked

[zenith bolt]

oh hey a new victory title thing https://i.imgur.com/BuAHkpA.png

Everybody Loves Aphrodite https://i.imgur.com/wouGFHt.jpeg

[past pewter]

Does born gain ever get to 0 magick primed with enough poms/rarity

[zenith bolt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/362939825000677377/1247710761489534986/2024-06-04_19-32-01.mp4?ex=666104b2&is=665fb332&hm=1a4d85efeb8ca6fcfaa5e522a5a567d4c80e58564b183105237f1640043cbe42&

[sage compass]

If I get a armor + buff from the spider, and then I buy armor later on, do I get the buff from the spider previously?

[plain fossil]

only if your armour didnt run out in between, fresh armour doesnt put ur dress back on if u lost it

[stable herald]

Arachne's buffs last for as long as ypu have armor, but if you lose all your armor and get more later on you won't get her buffs back

[sage compass]

D: so sad -- thanks !

[stable herald]

One day I'll be cool enough to wear one of Arachne's dresses to fight Chronos

[stoic ridge]

poseidon dosnt work correctly on torches, its only activates his attack like every 3 hits or something

[sage compass]

If you're lucky enough to get the boon from hephaestus that gives armor after each location, you could make it

[wild pine]

How do I check my current location number? And what location number is Eris?

[sour cape]

Trustly shield only resets yout armor to that limit (so 10 at common r1), not a lot of wriggle room

But you can use Silken sash to stack more armor

[timber pawn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1233146305308528650/1247715239584075806/image.png?ex=666108de&is=665fb75e&hm=e8c69a8d931001befbe7f5c761165f382e52a9f053c30a267aac2e89fb007904& guys I did the thing

[forest veldt]

~30 for eris if no extra rooms taken. can check by opening boon window

[civic ocean]

Is that a record

[timber pawn]

for me it is

also note it is my local climate build lol and not the used-traditionally build

[past salmon]

yo nice run

[civic ocean]

Gonna go try and win at 32 with unupgraded moros lol

I have to redo all the guides now that we have a 4 god pool huh

Eh do I? Maybe it isn't necessarily needed

[timber pawn]

thanks! have a vod now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QWFY3RDwuk&ab_channel=Cromweld

[past salmon]

thanks for reminding me that I should be recording all the time

[timber pawn]

this took like 20 resets, Someone said they were surprised this could sub-10 so I really wanted to prove it lol

[past salmon]

fair
I think evbery weapon can sub 10 easy enough tho
Who said this lol?

[timber pawn]

not the weapon, this specific local climate nonsense setup, it was a fair question imo. its janky lol. Mainly they were doubting it since you really need like 3 boons to get it moving

[wild pine]

Is Path of Stars allowed to spawn in Ephyra? I thought I remembered seeing them before, but I just re-rolled a door 10 times without seeing one

[regal swan]

Hey! Quick question; is it even possible to max out every aspect as of this patch? I have noticed that there is a limit to the Testaments (up to 30) and seeing as you need 8 Nightmares per aspect....

[stable herald]

You can buy Nightmares from the Broker, they're expensive but bones are infinite

[regal swan]

So 130,000 bones it is then, lol. Death to Chronos.

[wild pine]

If you max out Toula's +fish ability and focus the fishing rod you can get several hundred bones worth of fish per run, which means every 2.5 runs or so you get another nightmare. Thrown in some prophecies and it doesn't take that long to max everything.

Also getting everything to rank 3 is way faster than rank 5 and nearly as good

At this point the only aspect I can think that is dramatically different at rank 5 from rank 3 is Melinoe Torch, which fortunately doesn't use nightmare

[plain fossil]

its more like 90k bones because ur counting the mel aspects that dont need nightmare and u can buy nightmare from chronos but yes it takes a minute lul

[dim kestrel]

Isn't it 7 per aspect to max? Iirc (been awhile now) the initial unlock uses other resources?

[plain fossil]

11123

oh actually yea its 7 hey ur right

[regal swan]

I will just level up aspects I like then. I will most likely start a new save whenever v1.0 comes out because of the story progression and other bits, so I can max them out there.

[plain fossil]

so only 75k bones minus whatever u buy from chronos

im keen to try mel axe more i did a bit before work and it felt pretty good

[regal swan]

oh yeah, my bad, I'm blind

[past salmon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1246695893361496087/1247718650027446363/20240605110628_1.jpg?ex=66610c0b&is=665fba8b&hm=eb992cddea64059e44df57da064714084072af3bf6c7fad2edcdb3f385c40449&
This is what this room was like 50 seconds in
There was another 2 Waves of these things afterwards
God I love oceanus

[plain fossil]

at least in erebus it felt great

[dim kestrel]

So I guess 70 total Nightmare to max every non-Mel aspect, which, still need a lot from Broker

[plain fossil]

7x15-30 = 75 yea its a lot

i certainly dont have it all done yet idk if the regulars notice i dont comment on persephone discussion lulul

cos i dont have the aspect done yet

[dim kestrel]

15? There are 10 excluding Mel aspects which don't use Nmare to upgrade, no?

[regal swan]

2 aspects per weapon with 5 weapons is 10 aspects x 7 Nightmares comes to 70 - 30 from testament is 40k bones for broker
is the math right now?

[dim kestrel]

So 70-30=40 between broker and prophecies

[plain fossil]

oh yea i actually cannot count at all ur right i was thinking 3 + mel

[worldly oriole]

So sad, Momus is bugged with Apollo legendary 😭 it eats the omega attack (submitted bug report in game already)

[dim kestrel]

I guess there will be 3 eventually

[storm spire]

Ayo, wheres my poseidon momus 🥹

[plain fossil]

as in u dont get two omega attacks AND u dont get two balls or u just dont get two balls

[dim kestrel]

ded

[broken pier]

pphone = 1st 32 clear HECK YEAH

[wild pine]

There's also at least one achievable prophecy that gives a few nightmare directly, I think

[plain fossil]

32 with no cast is some whole other level of dedication mate congratulations

[sour cape]

Playin Persephone wiht no cast??

[dim kestrel]

Yeah, 5 or so iirc. Forget which one

[sour cape]

Wgat in the world is that for?

[plain fossil]

i wanna see what happens to #h2-discussion after like 3 days of no momus

[sour cape]

Very impressive though

[regal swan]

Locating the Three Fates gives you 3 Nightmares but I don't think that's achievable as of yet, at least I haven't found them yet and I've beaten Chronos 3x so far

[storm spire]

No momus = unplayable. Like wdym I gotta start dodging & use my brain now

[plain fossil]

its not achievable

[regal swan]

If there are any other Prophecies, I haven't unlocked them yet

[worldly oriole]

For special you get two balls, and the red sphere sends out 2 more balls. For the attack, you get 2 waves, and the red sphere disappears without sending out any additional waves

[timber pawn]

oh look, hell

[plain fossil]

oh that actually does sound like an f10 interesting

[plain fossil]

have u tried not standing in the lasers

[ionic moon]

alright i think i have all the aspect and hammer changes up-to-date now, for example staff hammers:
https://hades2-crossroads.vercel.app/weapons/witchs-staff/hammers

[brisk tree]

alright everyone, it's been like seven hours. What's the new Momus ?

[lethal echo]

anyone tried heph zeus on medea? Seemed pretty strong when i did it for my 20 fear run

[broken pier]

https://i.imgur.com/6ymWhcX.jpeg

[past salmon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1246695893361496087/1247720773196451950/20240605111629_1.jpg?ex=66610e05&is=665fbc85&hm=b79eb67f0d62d79d32b95ca51f6bd0d6ad80a54a45f16e24fd52f688419e14c2&
I gotta say losing to timer on dog is a big feelsbadman moment
Actually abhorrent luck tho
No gods ever showing up so I just never got demeter
Literally didnt get a single attack hammer offered like tf???????

[lethal echo]

explosion auto procs blitz from the specials and you keep grabbing poms for the explosion

[broken pier]

posting pics thru imgur is annoying lol, = first 32f clear

[past salmon]

skull attack auto procs blitz without heph
Heph is just a 20s cooldown on damage
Run anything else

[lethal echo]

heph atack + zeus special

i got the cooldown to 3 sec

[past salmon]

yeah
Heph sucks
Just run any other attack
It will proc blitz regardless

[sage compass]

Is there some some in-game books that tell you what boons you need to get legendaries of each god?

[past salmon]

and you will just do more damage on anything other than heph
Regardless of 3 second cooldown

[plain fossil]

skulls 2proc blitz on any setup yea

[dim kestrel]

Hmm... could have sworn I got a small pile of Nightmare all at once from something

[plain fossil]

heph on medea skulls i dont really see it as the attraction of heph imo is u can put it on a weapon that has terrible base damage and good range and do mobile damage from a distance

[past salmon]

yeah heph is probably like medea's worst attack boon

maybe poseidon tbf actually lol

[plain fossil]

i was gonna say lul poseidon has to be worse at least heph doesnt actively grief u

[tired fulcrum]

Heph attack is kinda bad without pomming it to 2 seconds and you want your poms on zeus special

[zenith bolt]

relatively comfortable 32 tbh https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1233146305308528650/1247723462047436801/20240604202639_1.jpg?ex=66611086&is=665fbf06&hm=5cdfc0a3b14a66efbe49f7f0b412db197f7c87ddc2df503f0a1b90cbb4977dae&

[past salmon]

ok game It would be nice if on one of these good erebus runs you gave me a hammer that does something

[past salmon]

yeah it seems fine
I did it max timer and it was kind of a struggle but 32 you just take timer off

[zenith bolt]

on the slow side even for my 32s -3- mainly just bc i didn't get any omega/cast damage items from wells

[ocean patrol]

There’s a prophecy reward of 5 nightmare when you defeat Chronos with each of your arcana cards active (not all at once but cumulatively)

[zenith bolt]

that said i was never tanking timer damage so good enough /shrug

[wild pine]

Defeat Chronos with every Arcana card for 5 Nightmare

[spare kite]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1229078264811618305/1247725514433761350/image.png?ex=66611270&is=665fc0f0&hm=e59391e591261f3e3536bab161e09e9b14ba02cc84cc46b1ea8f5db915ca636b& always buy yarns

[trim thistle]

anyone have gameplay of the dash strike knives hammer? sounds op

[zenith bolt]

chaos deniers in shambles

[dim kestrel]

Ah, that's the one. Wasn't listed on any of the online lists I could find for some reason

[regal swan]

Yeah, I have just now unlocked it, lol
Was about to say

[storm spire]

Hows the new melinoe axe? Is it upgrade?

[zenith bolt]

unlike my other 32 runs i dont think i was ever really stressing in erebus or oceanus lol

very chill run, the only issue is i just didn't really get a whole lot of damage boosts later on so fields/tartarus were slow

[regal swan]

I need to beat him with only 4 different arcanas, should be one run

[civic ocean]

aight so

unupgraded Moros

first try

18 fear incl panic

won in 23 minutes

Roast Beef is on the menu I think

[zenith bolt]

i choose to believe geyser ring is real

the real issue is there isn't a lot of +cast % options in the game beyond chaos gamba or well items

torrential downpour geyser ring perhaps

[spare kite]

to nobody's suprise the eos hammer is fun

[civic ocean]

Geyser and Storm are very clear options for Persephone atm

[zenith bolt]

saved breath does big legwork here but it does on all omega cast builds (that aren't charon anyway)

[civic ocean]

both get you a really healthy omega special charge

[zenith bolt]

saved breath has to be one of the stronger like raw unupgraded common boons tbh

-50% cost on omega cast at base is rather large

[digital hazel]

which gods are the best source of mana regen?

[zenith bolt]

otherwise if/when they fix golden rule to actually be %, that'll obviously be the most funny solution for geyser ring

[zenith bolt]

hera > everything, then like hestia

[civic ocean]

Hera, Chaos, Poseidon, Hecate

---

Hestia Apollo

---

Aphrodite Heph Demeter

---

Zeus

[zenith bolt]

yeah that's about right

[tired fulcrum]

Ionic gain moment

[zenith bolt]

aphro is better if you have passion dash/rapture ring/island getaway

[plain fossil]

I like aph more than the others

[charred lintel]

aph is best magic regen, and no one can tell me otherwise

[civic ocean]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1241160250829049909/1247727513023680614/image.png?ex=6661144c&is=665fc2cc&hm=d7e1a060143f0baf529848b0e9dbc866b604083023e154d6f2f0b7e4951e975f& Roast Beef gets the job done

I need nightmare so bad lol

[plain fossil]

Heph gain is pretty useless with momus gone now i didnt mind it before on momus specifically since the DR is never dead and it sometimes let u regain hp

[zenith bolt]

i have like 30 with all my aspects maxed

[past salmon]

ive been scammed

[civic ocean]

Also I felt the 4 god pool IMMEDIATELY

[past salmon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1246695893361496087/1247727800635621468/20240605114429_1.jpg?ex=66611491&is=665fc311&hm=5888beded790e2cd282ccde5512d490e1073697a2723622a2c753d70c3c98319&
This is actually the saddest thing ive ever seen

[civic ocean]

Poseidon bricked my run almost

[plain fossil]

4 god pool is feelsbadman i tried this morning

[zenith bolt]

4 god pool really incentivizes branching out early bc otherwise you will never see your first two gods

[plain fossil]

Game is harder now

[zenith bolt]

RIP

[civic ocean]

Time to just be sicknasty with it

[plain fossil]

Its ok she will give u double mana pot

[zenith bolt]

game really wants you to fill up your god pool

[tired fulcrum]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1217110523091357747/1247706796144197662/image.png?ex=66610101&is=665faf81&hm=fee8766bf9af7f0e7f9d3fa83f700e5649b6252ffd388c2c8515f61a9308b9c4& golden rule moros real

[past salmon]

I didnt even get a DD
I got big centaur heart
this is such a scam

[charred lintel]

its interesting in different ways. for example, my runs have improved because of the new synergies available, but at the same time, i went out on a run hunting for poseidons legendary and took every poseidon boon i could find. it wasnt even close

[timber pawn]

have had this happen before, literally the worst

[charred lintel]

i think legendaries need to show up more often tbh

[zenith bolt]

forsaking apparently doesn't help with getting duos/legendaries any more

[timber pawn]

cooking

[plain fossil]

It does not

Which is good for balance but rough right now lul

[civic ocean]

just wait until I upgrade Moros then the world will know of Roast Beef

[tired fulcrum]

Well forsaking still helps for duo/leg hunting but it doesnt do the funny guaranteeing thing

[timber pawn]

what is the build on this one lmao, scorch and...something else?

[plain fossil]

Im sad about changes to torch special tho

Special spam feels unreal bad now the damage has been cut in more than half

[zenith bolt]

its ok torch omega attack got like 80% more dps lmao

[civic ocean]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1241160250829049909/1247727513023680614/image.png?ex=6661144c&is=665fc2cc&hm=d7e1a060143f0baf529848b0e9dbc866b604083023e154d6f2f0b7e4951e975f& no scorch, Slow Cooker triple fire god + probably Hera for Origination

In this case Poseidon bricked the run but each individual Moros regular attack was dealing like 100 dmg

this is with panic

[zenith bolt]

i think the intention was to make omega special the only special that's worth using tbh

bc omega special is like still good

[timber pawn]

thats wild lol\

[past salmon]

ok wait
Fellas we are maybe so back
Coarse grit activated last chamber fields????

[tired fulcrum]

How much did they nerf torch special damage

[timber pawn]

50 to 40 afaik

[silent crow]

iirc its 15 base

[plain fossil]

Omega special is really mobile now u dont have to weave in and out

[wintry idol]

question.
I need alot of bones.
is toula + fishing road worth it?
I want to maximaze fish, but I dont know how much likely is using both other than just one of them (toula or road)

[tired fulcrum]

Aint that omega attack

[silent crow]

idk about the omega special

[timber pawn]

oh, yes

[zenith bolt]

thats omega attack and it like fires double speed now

[tired fulcrum]

But what was it prepatch

[plain fossil]

25 to 15 and it doesnt double hit at any range anymore on stationary enemy + the deadzones are bigger

[zenith bolt]

so its more like 50 -> 40x2

[tired fulcrum]

oh, yeah thats pretty bad lmao

[civic ocean]

I gotta say tho I sure do hate Moros

[silent crow]

bru

[civic ocean]

Those bullets are actual fall guys

[zenith bolt]

mel torches romantic spark is my silly meme thing i sometimes go for now

[civic ocean]

I just wish they didn't collide with one another

[plain fossil]

U just cant play special spam torches anymore 😦 this is probably pink aura buff tho because u need less defenses when ur more mobile

[civic ocean]

is omega special bad now

[zenith bolt]

zeus special carries early on and then romantic spark has like stupid damage

[past salmon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1246695893361496087/1247729311922913430/20240605115030_1.jpg?ex=666115f9&is=665fc479&hm=fa5b2c61c206f6af4ceda71c07a6568ab49b215f8e51b6e412ccd65de80724bb&
we are so in

[plain fossil]

Omega special is ok its bit smaller but u can channel it while moving and it doesnt slow u down much at all

[zenith bolt]

it got buffed so

[civic ocean]

Oh Pink Aura is feasting then

[plain fossil]

Plus u can play eos beyblade specials

[zenith bolt]

pink aura * 2

[spare kite]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1233146305308528650/1247729479389020211/image.png?ex=66611621&is=665fc4a1&hm=44664eb9ad055b5107a377390a1e7ef47193e10427710d11802ca109668deb6d& I wonder if taking queen's ramson would've been better

[plain fossil]

Idk if thats good but its a thing u can do

[zenith bolt]

except eos ghost doesnt make heartthrobs of its own

[tired fulcrum]

Its kinda how to use moros

[civic ocean]

I saw some Eos clips it seems like the fall guy that the omega attack makes is also very stupid

[silent crow]

wait is the omega spec on torches still the same damage

[civic ocean]

oh really I was just going for like 100 dmg regular attacks

[spare kite]

just take the eos hammer

[plain fossil]

Yes

[zenith bolt]

chant gaming

[silent crow]

that makes no sense

[civic ocean]

I did get the Eos hammer it made it worse on chronos

[zenith bolt]

the buff moros needed was simply to become old eos 🔥

[civic ocean]

The bros would come to me and block my shots lmaoi

[zenith bolt]

in seriousness i hate the billiard ball ghosts myself

[civic ocean]

if they worked like billiard balls id be down but they just stop

[tired fulcrum]

The reg attacks always immediately run into each other tho so you need omega special to clear them properly cuz new special is kinda bad at it and interrupts attacking

[past salmon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1246695893361496087/1247729959993086023/image.png?ex=66611694&is=665fc514&hm=84bb94eb8d2f2634447a8630749d5cea4f957a91ed3e03aea939d94c522c05e6&
I actually dont know if soul or dissent is better here

[civic ocean]

I was playing with panic and regular special or just moving did fine

[zenith bolt]

deep dissent unless your damage is really that bad
tempus spawns in p2 suck ass

[spare kite]

I'd do howling to bully chronos dash attack even more

[civic ocean]

The autoaim is also really, really funny

[past salmon]

yeah im thinking probably
Time is the danger tho
I got money bag room 1 because rng hates me

[zenith bolt]

RIP

[tired fulcrum]

Idk its a lot slower than using omega special like my 17 min 32 was with commotion 3

[zenith bolt]

tho didnt goldwrath get nerfed

[civic ocean]

it was definitely slow

[zenith bolt]

Goldwrath: reduced accuracy and tracking of beam attack

[civic ocean]

but I also had no upgrades on the aspect and it was my first time playing the aspect

I think I need to spend July practicing on it to get sicknasty with it

[zenith bolt]

the change i think is most funny is that they buffed driftwood drops again LOL

[tired fulcrum]

The omega special lasts long enough to get a lot of omega attacks in so you can just instantly blow everything up

[low bear]

so is Poseidon the play for Torch attack now?

[zenith bolt]

depends on aspect. for moros idk but for eos definitely not

eos much prefers % damage because it's large singular hits

[zenith bolt]

mel torches you just wouldn't build attack

[low bear]

depends on the build for me, if you have a cast or long range build then being able to throw the cast safely at Chronos without getting close can be extremely valuable

[past salmon]

alright fellas
3 minutes for Chronos
Wish me luck
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1246695893361496087/1247731243919867944/20240605115807_1.jpg?ex=666117c6&is=665fc646&hm=160fe197d9a749a1408992f997be876837a6410c5a1267382fc804485bbca1c0&

[zenith bolt]

gl

[tired fulcrum]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1164101586138710037/1247731098734034994/Hades_II_2024-06-04_17-17-51_-_Trim.mp4?ex=666117a3&is=665fc623&hm=af467a15ce4d282f224b002639f677329406e4cdc66d85a8c48a1e23a45c80d1& it does a lot of damage. golden rule may or may have been involved

[low bear]

I still use attack on Mel torch because of stagger

[zenith bolt]

petition to ban golden rule clips

[civic ocean]

no stagger only kill

[lucid depot]

Bro I was struggling with ||Chronos ||so much, and I picked up Umbral flames today after the patch and I beat him first try, is it broken or what lmao, I had Aphrodite Epic attack boon too

[spare kite]

the dash attack axe hammer is fun

[alpine topaz]

what did they do to aspect of momus 😭

[zenith bolt]

they made it fun

[alpine topaz]

yeah youre right

[past salmon]

LE<EIOJUFBNOIEUWJB
LETS GO

[plain fossil]

GZ

[alpine topaz]

kinda miss it though

[steel sequoia]

bruh EOS is so much more fun now sorry eosfan

i enjoyed much more in a single run

[alpine topaz]

they better not touch aspect of pan

[past salmon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1246695893361496087/1247732256856866866/20240605120210_1.jpg?ex=666118b7&is=665fc737&hm=bbd48710770851c09d33bc3a0b51b30750b6f59bdab19dd176b7e2e7ab008eae&
48 Fear Mel skulls

[alpine topaz]

damn

[plain fossil]

60 from hippo #justmedeathings

[steel sequoia]

u have a +2 attack how is that even possible

[cloud fog]

Has anyone had success with the trial of haste?

[low bear]

Momus Special is really fun now

[plain fossil]

What do u mean

[past salmon]

hippos are the opps bro

[low bear]

I love the playstyle, Set your "turret" down and let it do damage while you're using your normal attack to kill enemies

[little cedar]

SHEEESH I only did 46

Mel skull is op asf

[steel sequoia]

i mean if im at 48 fear with +2 i wont even pass oceanus

[past salmon]

Possessed array is insane btw

[zenith bolt]

so real for this

[past salmon]

absolutely carries damage

[steel sequoia]

i feel the bosses are harder now

[zenith bolt]

buffed possessed array is insane

[plain fossil]

Oh, poms dont scale hera attack that well its not really that relevant to the run

[past salmon]

like
you could easily get away with bolstered instead
I think they are both pretty even
If you get both u actually just nuke everything

[plain fossil]

If they dont make ur skulls float 87 feet in the air anymore they sounds kinda broko ngl

[zenith bolt]

yeah they just removed the downside lol

so you have regular skull drops but still the omega attack on collect

[past salmon]

also omega attack was buffed anyway so like LMAO

[zenith bolt]

skull fans eating good this patch

omega attack buff for mel fans and persephone got made usable

[past salmon]

Mel skulls definitely isnt doing 50F btw
Barriers will make you die to timer everytime I think

[plain fossil]

Im still a spaz with skulls man

[bright sequoia]

im a mel torches main i think now

[plain fossil]

Clicking 28 mel skulls like some potato missing like 30% of my skull throws lmao

[zenith bolt]

also medea fans got improved hitreg so hopefully oceanus isn't as miserable

[bright sequoia]

tho moros are cool

[past salmon]

was this stated?
I didnt find it in patch notes

[zenith bolt]

Argent Skull (Medea): improved hit detection on foes near impassable obstacles

[low bear]

yeah idk why it got buffed but it's insane especially with Aphro attack

[plain fossil]

Like unironically im going to enjoy possessed just because its better coverage and i suck lul

[nova dune]

Big fan of new torches

[past salmon]

tbf it bricked ur damage before the patch unless u had bolstered

[nova dune]

Poseidon Torches actually go nuts now

[low bear]

fair though I think they should have decreased the CD instead of taking it out altogether lol

[alpine topaz]

yeah i just completed a calm luh surface run focussed on my special and it was fun and more challenging than the old version

[past salmon]

if this fixes sea serpent issue probably 48F Medea soon 🙏
And then I will start throwing myself back into 50F

[broken pier]

haha i just tried that poseidon special on eos is nutty lol, you get ur little dude out there and spam and it washes the whole screen

[zenith bolt]

staff fans now have 3 flavors of the same function (omega spam)

[bright sequoia]

this is why i hate new eos lol

[past salmon]

tbf I really like circe and momus now lol

[zenith bolt]

circe got gigabuffed so maybe it's not bottom 1 aspect any more

[nova dune]

i meant the attack, it' s way faster and more mobile now

[bright sequoia]

moros and eos play like the Exact Same now

[low bear]

I still don't get Circe a bit, what's the play for this aspect

[nova dune]

Attack and Omega Attack build

[past salmon]

surely not right
Moros wants to use attack like all the time surely with attack speed gigabuffs

[zenith bolt]

moros and eos play like completely differently lol

[low bear]

ahh an omega attack build sounds interesting

[past salmon]

yeah I was gonna say

[bright sequoia]

ive always seen moros as a mixed build

[past salmon]

it is but Moros and Eos both being mixed doesnt mean they play the same

[bright sequoia]

it is but the general routine is the same

[zenith bolt]

also skull fans rejoice as sidelong crash got removed

[bright sequoia]

the only real difference is moros uses attack longer

[past salmon]

TRUTH

[plain fossil]

Btw i love how they reworked like 20 hammers but left marauder slice alone

[bright sequoia]

both new eos and moros play as spam attack for a bit into special/omega special to enable the thing from your attack

[zenith bolt]

marauder slice got removed wym

[ashen cape]

I had so, so, so much fun with this skull build: Ionic Gain > Static Shock > Spirit Surge(Epic lvl 3) > Possessed Array > Fetching Array (+ other boons); it seemed silly to not be able to do an omega attack (or ANYTHING with mana for that matter - I had none available), but it was absolutely delightful time playing. Didn't really like the skulls before the patch, but this kind of combo makes me want to give them another shot.

[bright sequoia]

the routine is nearly the same which i find really frustrating

[zenith bolt]

replaced with just a +attack speed hammer that doesn't nuke your omega attack

[bright sequoia]

compared to other aspects where i find myself playing completely differently each time

[past salmon]

literally got removed

[zenith bolt]

game loads faster on new patch which i really like

[plain fossil]

Oh i missed it bc of the rename thats good

[bright sequoia]

rlly the only difference between moros and new eos is that moros uses attack for like. a bit longer?

[zenith bolt]

https://i.imgur.com/haGEOal.png

[plain fossil]

That doesnt affect channel time right just the animation

[civic ocean]

You take pretty different boons on moros and eos too I would imagine

[past salmon]

I mean Eos uses omega attack and then spam specials
Moros uses omega special and then spams attack
I think its pretty different honestly

[plain fossil]

Still, time to play zero mana mel blades

[zenith bolt]

blades didnt get much buffs tbh, mainly just artemis being more consistent

[low bear]

pan mostly got nerfs

[plain fossil]

Pan got some nerfs

[past salmon]

Blades didnt rlly need buffs tbf

[bright sequoia]

eos uses omega attack once

[zenith bolt]

true

[past salmon]

yeah
thats what I said?

[bright sequoia]

most of its attacks are still normal

[zenith bolt]

most of the good hammers for pan got nerfed or reworked

[low bear]

I think Artemis needs a bit of hammer buffs

feels like Explosive Ambush is really essential

[past salmon]

did boundless get changed?

[plain fossil]

Pan is probably pretty uncomfortable now that build has quite a few moving parts and its going to be worse early

[plain fossil]

Yes it got clobbered

[past salmon]

rip 💀

[bright sequoia]

there is other factors (obviously the omega attack is more influential in new eos than the attacks) but the overall playstyle stays the same bc of how omegas work anyway

[low bear]

what's boundless

[zenith bolt]

spiral knives - damage boost reduced
hook knives - no backstab damage
boundless flurry - no cost reduction (renamed to sudden flurry)
concentrated flurry - removed

[plain fossil]

I didnt try hook yet but someone was complaining its really slow now

[tepid hearth]

hi pals, just read the patch notes, is Torch attack good now?

[plain fossil]

Boundless also takes like 90% longer to charge now

[bright sequoia]

which is what i find frustrating with new eos

[plain fossil]

34 to 60% base channel time

[bright sequoia]

theres definite differences there but it doesnt matter because im playing the exact same

and nothing really feels different in the end

even if, objectively it is

[past salmon]

I genuinely dont know how you see Moros and Eos playing the exact same
All torch aspects play pretty different honestly
Especially compared to like
Axe
With Than and Mel axe being very similar imo

[zenith bolt]

than axe builds crit with attack then does omega moves with the boosted crit

vs mel axe which is just attack spam

[bright sequoia]

they dont play the exact same but they may as well when im doing nearly the same exact routine

[zenith bolt]

mel aspect is basically arthur tbh

[past salmon]

maybe the problem lies in you smile

[bright sequoia]

does it rlly

[past salmon]

I dunno atleast personally the two runs of Moros/Eos ive done today felt very different

[analog osprey]

god, persephone feels so much better to use than it used to

[bright sequoia]

theres not much difference when you go into omega special with both to do something from your attack which requires using several attacks one way or another

[zenith bolt]

yeah persephone is much better than it was

[past salmon]

Persephone do go kinda crazy now

[bright sequoia]

the only difference is you use omega attack

once

with eos instead

[analog osprey]

moon @ rank 3 makes charging persephone so fast - about half a bar's worth of charge from one omega

[zenith bolt]

it's ~1600 omega cast damage to fully charge i think

[past salmon]

lol
My nights prevailed with skulls is actually so bad
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1246695893361496087/1247736765951774813/image.png?ex=66611cea&is=665fcb6a&hm=11c636cd6729cf98366a8d4d58c590a958bbc455d6ea90ca73861ce759c3d100&

[tough pasture]

Ewww. Not a fan. What does the omega special look like? Does the omega special hit 3x too?

[past salmon]

@tough pasture

[sour cape]

same thing, gets copied 3x yea

[mystic bison]

What was concentrated flurry again? The one that fired all the knives straight?

[zenith bolt]

no, that's sureshot

[plain fossil]

No, +4 per consec hit

[tough pasture]

lol, dammit

Now I'm not happy...

[sour cape]

the one that gives extra dmg for each knife hitting same target

[zenith bolt]

concentrated flurry gave +power for each hit of omega special

[mystic bison]

Ah

[zenith bolt]

https://i.imgur.com/vscJxMg.png i have no bias against any weapon

[sour cape]

Uhhh is Persephone skull doing 50 or 70 to skelly?

I might have found a bug

[past salmon]

my clear counts are all so low because ive just been doing high fear lol
Maybe I should take a break

[analog osprey]

skull dmg is base 50